Episode Transcript
[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Barrill for Razor Alley podcast. Yeah, I'm man meeting you for the first time. I've been hearing a lot about you. Hudson Westbrook. How you doing?
[00:00:24] Speaker A: Good. Just busy, you know.
Flew into Nashville this week. Last week was in Odessa. Week before that, Texas Arcana, Oklahoma. So I was a normal college kid, and now I'm in Nashville writing songs.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: Where were you going to school?
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Texas Tech.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: I still am going to school, so we'll see how that goes.
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Lubbock. Special place.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fun.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Yeah. I used to spend time on the road. I used to work as a tour manager and as a merch seller. I was out with Muscadine bloodline for about a year, which I know you're in the Ryan Newman's family. Love, Ryan. It's funny, I was actually hanging out with Ryan the other day and was talking about you. All good things. All good things. But, um. And then I used to work with Trey Lewis with Dick down in Dallas.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: Really?
[00:01:01] Speaker B: So we spent a lot of time in Texas during COVID Yeah, and Texas is a whole other animal. It's different from.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Different than anywhere. Yeah. So I went first night here. It was two months ago. I went to. Why not? Round.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it was love those guys.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that was an insane round to play at. But, like, I went and played in front of the crowd, and I was like, this is way different than Texas, dude. Like, everybody's in your own little world over there. Yeah, but it's good. I like being over here. It's. It's like, where I need to be. Because this is music, dude.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Like, yeah.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Everywhere you go, someone's playing music, someone's on Broadway chasing someone's. It's crazy.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: It's a little different than Austin. What's the street in Austin? Is it 6th street?
[00:01:41] Speaker A: 6Th street?
[00:01:41] Speaker B: It's a little different than 6th street.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Broadway.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Broadway and 6th street. They're similar, but different.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: I would say, like, 6th Street's a lot like Broadway if you put music on 6th street.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Because there used to be music on 6th street. Is there not anymore? Or is it the side streets that aren't?
[00:01:56] Speaker A: I mean, it's so.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: I'm trying to think.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: Not many, like, live band, like, focus.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz I've been to Austin. I've been like Pflugerville and been. Is it buddha or beautiful? I've done, like, the maverick shows down there and, like, through all those venues. I've been to Austin once, and it was with Trey, and we played at a place called Wild Gregg's. Yeah, I don't know if it's still there. Greg's a crazy man. Shout out, wild Greg. He's got. He's got clubs, and he had a club in Minneapolis, had a club in. Has a club down in the. Has two clubs in Florida, and then moved into Texas during COVID which was wild. And we had it. There was a dude that was, like, naked, pretty much, like, in his underwear with a chicken. It was like, the chicken man. The chicken man.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Dude, I went down there. They had snakes around their necks in Austin, though. But I'm like, what are y'all making y'all's money on this?
[00:02:42] Speaker B: They say keep Austin weird, and it is plenty weird. Again, it's been a few years ago down there, dude. But it's. Austin's definitely different from Nashville. It's cool cause it's got the music vibes, but it's not this. No, it's not Nashville.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: I don't think anything can try to be, like Nashville. It's crazy. Like, come up here. Down there, everyone's writing songs. Yeah, they're going. But, like, here, it's like, one day writing songs. Next day this. Next day we're playing a live gig. Next day we're going down here to do this.
Golly, this is crazy. I mean, it's fun, but it's a whole different world over here. Yeah, I enjoy it.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's quite. It's wild. Like, back in the day, there used to be, like, Randy Rogers and Wade Bowen and those guys, they didn't cross canadian rugby. They didn't want to come out here. But now there's. You're in this era where it's like, yeah, I'm from Texas. Yeah, I fuck with Texas. I love going. All them college towns. I love going across the board at Oklahoma and. But I can still have a career that's kind of based here in Nashville. It's a great time to be doing what you're doing.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: I think that's really important to bring kind of light to that, is that you can. You can be Texas country. You can make Texas country music. But with social media nowadays, there's no limit. And so coming to Nashville and finding tools and meeting new people and connections, like with social media, now, people in Minnesota can be listening to your music. You don't have to play a live gig to, I'm sure, Minnesota to get it there, you know? And that's what's crazy, is I came here and I was, like, kind of nervous to come here, you know? Cause all the Texas is, like, Wade Bowen and Randy Rogers never did that. But it's the best thing I've ever done. You know, it's. It's helped me a lot throughout the past four months. I would not be here, so.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Four months. It's pretty crazy. Four months. What were you doing before?
Before Hudson Westbrook, the. The country singer from Stephenville, what were you doing?
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah, so before I was halter breaking bulls in Anton, so I was.
[00:04:36] Speaker B: What for? I'm from New York. What? I've been. I've been to some rodeo shit, and I've had my phone out there. But what does halter break mean? Like, what does that mean?
[00:04:47] Speaker A: So the cattle, or I guess the. They have their.
Their calves, and so once you have the calves, you have to bring them into the pins, and you have to separate them. So separating from their mom is a whole different thing. And so once you separate them, they're in, like, four different pins.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: And then once you get them in four different pens, you start putting halters on them. But, like, trying to put. Imagine someone trying to put a collar, like, on whatever animal that has never been tamed, like a tiger, anything. It's the same thing for a cow. Like, dude, those things are kicking. They're going nuts. So you just start with putting the halter on, and then you let them run around with just a halter on, and then you start with tying them up, and then once you tie them up, their neck gets used to, like, holding their head up, and their face gets sore. So then you bring them back the next day, and you tie that rope around their face and their net. Their face is still sore from yesterday. Okay, so then they start listening to you because you're like, yeah, hurts, bro.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: And it's dominance.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You're not gonna fight it. And so you raise em up, and then you start bringing them in, and you have to wash them and blow dry them and all that type of stuff to get their hair trained to go the right way to make them, like, look right.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Okay, so that's what you were doing.
[00:05:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I was doing. And crazy story. So I wrote take it slow while my coworker was washing a cow. And I was like, I went to a SGA meeting that morning, and they said Texas tech was a darling of Texas. And I was like, well, darlin, and then I was, like, at work, and I decided to keep writing lines to it and texted a bass player that I met at guitar center, and he was like, try out these chords on it. And so I tried out the chords and literally that night, I was like, alright, let's roll with it. DM'd two dudes on Instagram and got together in a garage in Lubbock, Texas, and ended up recording take it slow literally the next day.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And so that's how that escalated into that. Now boss was like, where are you at? And I'm like, dude, I'll not explain this to you. 70 year old man that's breaking bulls. But I'm chasing a music career.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: It's so weird.
[00:06:53] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. And there's something special about Lubbock, Texas, because I had. I did a podcast with Pecos hurdily from Pecos and the rooftops years ago, and he was talking about kind of the same thing where it kind of just happened like a story like that, where it just. He was just jamming with his buddies. And they got the name rooftops because they were all sitting, passing around a joint on the. On the rooftop of their house in Lubbock. You know, they. That all of them were crammed in, living in, like, sometimes the shit just happens, dude. Like, you don't expect it, you don't plan for it. Like, that's such a cool story.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. I don't think I could have planned for it. That's the craziest thing about it. Like, I never could have imagined any of this.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: Like today I was driving around 1952 Ford down Broadway and I'm like, what is going on, dude?
But, I mean, I don't. I think Lubbock's a great place to start. Back on what you said about Lubbock. Everyone in Lubbock's very supportive. I mean, we had 18 people, 1800 people show up to Cook's garage to watch me.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Big deal. That's a historic venue.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Put on my, like, first show ever that I've never played a show in my entire life. And people showed up to watch it, and there were mess ups, 100%. But people were there to support. And we recently went back and played cotton fest and people were like, dude, you're figuring it out. Like, we can see your growth. And so it's been exciting.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. And that's part of, like, this era right now of social media, cuz, like, what we do, we don't know how much you know about raised rowdy and kind of what we do. Peyton, I'm sure. Shout out to Peyton Heben. He was our intern at one point. Now he runs, like, our music business podcast.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: We love Payton.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: He's like a little brother to Nikki T. And myself, but we got to see it, like, during COVID with a guy, like, say, bailey Zimmerman. Bailey Zimmerman had never played a show before. He was working on trucks and similar kind of thing where she's like, oh, let me try this thing. And just started kind of mixing in the singing with his truck content and doing whatever. And then his first time ever playing in front of him was one of our events at Live Oak now, Cook's garage. Different. Different thing. Had you ever played in front of people before that, or was that kind of your first time really getting in front of people?
[00:09:02] Speaker A: I never played in front of more than 30 people, and we played for 12,004 weeks ago, so it's. It's weird.
[00:09:11] Speaker B: How do you keep your mind right where you don't. You don't freak out? Like, how do you keep.
Honestly?
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a big deal myself that I was like, are you ready for this, dude? I'm like, walking out, my friends are like, are you okay, dude? While I'm at the house, I'm like, dude, I'm good. I'm good. Just chill. But there's definitely been some oh, shit. Moments when I'm walking out on stage and I'm like, I don't know how this is gonna go, but roll with the punches and. And. But now it's very natural, you know, my band and I are tight. They know if I mess up, they'll follow me. If they mess up, I'll follow them. I think it's. It's a very. Live shows are based on chemistry between you and your band.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: So much so, dude.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm also learning, like, interacting with the crowd and, like, all that type of stuff is so important throughout a show.
In the beginning, it was not easy for me. Oh, yeah. But it's. It's come fast, and I'm excited to see where it's at after, you know, at this time next year.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, it's like picking up a baseball and then getting called up to go pitch in, like, a high level, minor league, borderline major league game.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: For, like, your first. Your first. Your first innings are on the mound.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: You're either striking out or if you mess up, everyone's gonna know you're front and center, dude.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah, bro. When did music, like, become. When did you have this idea? Cause I assume being in Texas and working on the ranch and in that. In that ag life, you're obviously listening to country tunes. Like, you grow up listening to it. You're exposed to such great. The art of, like, a live country music show is best done in places like Texas.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. So I, like, first started listening to Flatland, like, as a kid.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: And God bless Cluto in those.
[00:10:53] Speaker A: Yeah, no joke, dude. Have you heard the landslide, bro?
[00:10:56] Speaker B: So good.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Um, but what mainly, like, what I listened to in the beginning that has, like, sparked my interest is, like, early days of Parker, like, limestone kid. I love that authenticity of Texas and. And kind of, like, shedding light. Like, his songwriting is so.
Touches all bases throughout all those tracks. Like, it's not just one topic. He's talking about four different cities and. Yeah, and so I loved that. And then Turnpike has been major. Yeah, turnpike seven and seven. Favorite song of all time.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah, sure, dude. Yeah, they're. They're another level. And it's amazing to see them kind of come back because I.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: That's crazy, because not many times you see a band split up and have the ability to come back and freaking.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Kill it bigger than they ever.
[00:11:42] Speaker A: Like, that helped y'all. Maybe I need to act like I broke up.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Now you're. You're in a good spot now. How many songs do you have out right now?
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Four out right now.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: You have four out in. Your first one was released earlier this year, April 25. Wow.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: So you've already got. You've just started doing this shit. You've got four songs out by August.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Yes. So we're pumping them out.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd say so.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: As fast as we can. Yeah, the demand was there. I mean, take it slow. Cause my. My socials exploded and I was like, all right, well, we gotta. We gotta roll this music out. If people want it and they're gonna support it, we're gonna keep giving it to them. So we dropped. Take it slow. We dropped two way drive a month later, a month and a half later. Then we just dropped Johnny Walker in five to nine. So it's been. Five to nine is probably my favorite song. I put out.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: They're gonna keep becoming your favorite because you're. You'll see.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: I know. I write another one every day, and I'm like, bro, this is the one.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: And then. Yeah, they're like your kids, dude. Like, people, like, that's. And that's part of the beauty of the art of creating songs and stuff. Being a songwriter. Have you gotten to do the co writing stuff yet? Cuz that's a different thing. That's a different thing. In Texas versus Hentai as well, dude. It's very different.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: So that is probably the best thing that's happened to me throughout all this. It's. I was very against it. I had a big ego thing. Like, I'm not co writing any of my songs. I'm not. I'm not gonna let someone else put words in my song. But I sat in a room for three weeks and wrote with different writers and I ended up writing the past one that we released, five to nine and Lucas.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Lucas Scott, right?
[00:13:18] Speaker A: Yeah, Lucas Scott.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: Good dude.
[00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah, he's really cool. But we sat down and he was like, man, what's going on in your life? And sometimes, like, questions like that is what you need. Like, yeah, what did you do in the past? I was like, I built barbed wire fence. And he's like, all right, well, the sun comes up and then I, like, finish the line. And he goes, there's twelve. And then I wrote 12 miles of barbed wire. And, like, it all comes together as you, like, craft and it becomes, like, piece of art with another person. It's really cool. Yeah, I think co writing is very important. Yeah, I do think you need to write on your own before you decide to.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz you got to figure out what your own style is. And that's what makes those early songs of yours, like, that's what makes this. This first stuff so special is because this is literally what you wanted to say.
What's. What's Stephenville, Texas? Like? I've been out there before on tour, but what is the. What is Steve, what is growing up in Stephenville?
[00:14:13] Speaker A: Like, Stevenville's fun. It's very, um. It's in its own lane for sure.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: The land of co Wetzel.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, co Wetzel's a big deal. February 28, it's a holiday in Texas. In Stephenville.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: Everyone line up the Taco bell.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: Taco Bell. There's posters, there's people putting out flags, whatever.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: There's a house right by Tarleton Stadium every February 28. They do like, honk and we drink.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:38] Speaker A: And those dudes will be hammered by the end of the day. Like, on the ground, in the yard. It's hilarious. But, um, growing up in seamill is good, very small town vibe.
You don't. There's a lot of families there and a lot of people that don't leave Stevenville. You know, they. They stay in Steven their whole life. And one thing that I was grateful for, I guess, throughout high school and stuff, is my mom exposed me to outside town cities and, like, what, like.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: What was your first?
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Like, Colorado, Utah.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Chicago. Like, all those places was like, that kind of gave me faith in my music, too. I was like, there's so much more out there. But anyways, so in Stephenville, small town, close circle of friends.
I would say, like, your biggest connections are Weatherford, Alito. I had a lot of Fort Worth friends. Granbury friends.
I built barbed wire from or built fence, not barbed wire, from my freshman year to my senior year. So I would go to work every day during the summers, and then during the school year, I would go to football practice from like, till 730 and then go do work till 1030 to.
For my boss. And so those were like, packed days.
I did a lot of FFA. That was fun. So future farmers of America moving.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Were you showing, showing cows and stuff?
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah, so I was showing pigs.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: You were showing pigs.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: I knew that reaction.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: Yeah. What's showing up?
[00:16:04] Speaker A: That never fails.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: I'm guessing you're. Now we talking like, because I know Texas. Texas is the land where you guys Hunt. Hunt wild boar through with helicopters, with Ted Nugent and shit. I've seen those videos.
I've seen those videos, bro. It looks like Forrest Gump with the helicopters going out, lighting up pigs. How big are these? These pigs that you're showing?
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Like, they start off like 40 pounds. And you can get them up to. There's lightweight at 180, medium weight at like 220 heavyweight at 250. So it goes. But it goes light, medium light, medium, medium heavy.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: All that, like a steak, like rare, medium rare.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: And then, like, all these families are like, rounded around the pen and they're, like, out there chanting, and I'm just out there with a stick. It's funny.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah. What do you do? So, like, do you, do you have, like, the. Is the pig on like a leash or, like, are you guiding it? Yeah.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: Like, what, you have a. You have a, um.
Like a stick that I guess it's like fiberglass.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: And so what you want to do is get their head up, and so you tap under their head and then you hit their rear to get. Keep them moving. Yeah, so, but you can't get in front of them because if they see you in their side eye, then they'll stop. Oh, so, like, most important things, like, keep them going, and then you want, like, muscle top, round back. It's.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: Dude, it gets round back. Okay, so, like, junk in the trunk. Like, yeah, but, like, muscular gets up towards the front of the animal.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: So, I mean, and then once you get done with that, you sell your animal. Okay, so, like, they sponsor it. Oh, yeah.
[00:17:36] Speaker B: Okay. That's a whole other world that I've never. And I know that's a huge thing nationwide. Like, there's ffas and four h's all over the place.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's a big deal. I did, like, area officer. I did area vice president, chapter president, all that stuff.
[00:17:52] Speaker B: Government shit.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:17:54] Speaker A: Yeah. I I wouldn't say I'm a government guy, but then I went to tech and did SGA, and then, like, president select.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: What was your. What was your major attack?
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Energy commerce.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: Energy commerce.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: I changed it to business management because I'm fully online now, so.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: I'm gonna try to get my basics at least.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: What is. What is energy? What you would you say was energy commerce. So is that, like, wind power, nuclear?
[00:18:17] Speaker A: So that's like, oil wells, transfer of energy. Um, if you put an oil well right between us, who's going to get the rights to it? Like, all that type of stuff. So.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: So you had a plan to do business shit before any of this music thing?
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I was. I was trying real hard in school. I guess I still am. It's going to be from a van driving down the road.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: But I give you credit for getting the degree, bro.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Everyone says when I tell mom in college, they're like, are you really?
You're still doing it? And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna keep doing it. You know, I'm just. I need.
I know. I hope the music works out, and.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: I'd say you're in a pretty good spot.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: I know, but I hope that it works out, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna make that, like, a pushing point.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: Like, I'm gonna drop out when. When I work hard enough to get this music.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: How many more credits you got?
[00:19:08] Speaker A: Three more years.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Okay, so we got, we got, we. So you've. You can. I think. I mean, hey, if you can pull that off, bro, if you can get the degree and have songs on the radio, bro, and be selling out show, that'd be great. You can do all of that.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: Some buildings on the side, that's unheard of.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: Selling out shows, that'd be fucking wild, dude.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: It would be cool. And the mandeal is my mom. I got to make sure I can prove to her.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: Yeah. What's my. What's mom like?
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Mom. My mom's been crazy. So, like, my parents got divorced when I was a kid, and, um, my dad moved to Haskell, which is right outside of Abilene. And, uh, she got a job on her own, and, uh, went and did the whole single mom thing has not dated a single person since the divorce because her focus has been on me. You know, I was the only kid left back at home.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: And so she was. My senior year rolled around, or I guess my high school years rolled around, and she was driving to Midland to work while I was in high school.
And that's.
That was the time when I really saw growth in myself, because I would cook myself dinner. I would go work out.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Watch me. Got any siblings?
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I got three old. Two older brothers, one sister.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: Okay, but you're. But you're the. You're the youngest.
[00:20:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So I definitely got my older brothers and older siblings, like, shit on me all the time. Like that. That was also another mature point that I had, because older brothers, that's all they do. And.
But it was weird, because once I decided to do music, they were, like, supportive of it. They're like, hell, yeah, dude.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Of course they are.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. But, like, that was, I guess, living in a small town, you're scared of what everyone's gonna think about what you're doing. And I got to Lubbock, and I was like, I can do whatever I want so much bigger.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: That's the power. Going off to school, too, and getting that independence is like, I want to do this shit. Like, I can go and get it.
[00:21:08] Speaker A: You know? I'm going to pull the trigger and just put a song out, and here I am today. But my mom's great. She. She drove from Midland to Stevenville all the time. And still to this day, I always tell this story. This is the craziest story. My mom gave me $400 in a heart rock and said, go record. Take it slow. And I recorded it, and this is what it turned into because I didn't have the money at the time, so that's the coolest thing. I saw that heart rock in my van. I look at it every day. That's. That was really cool. And so I want to get her, like, a ring or something with something that says something on the inside.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: And be like, this is cuz of you, dude. You. You paid for it. None of it ever would have happened without you.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: So.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Isn't it. That's. Isn't it crazy what $400 to go record a song can turn into, dude?
[00:22:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. A little. A little studio. Green room studio about the size of this. Took 14 hours to record and paid $400. Like, blows my mind, because I can cut three songs in 3 hours here.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: And I, like, I won't ever forget those days. You know? Those are the days that you look.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: Back as you shouldn't, bro. And what's crazy is that those days weren't that long ago.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: I know. I know.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Four months ago, dog.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: But still. Yeah, it's weird and. Yeah, so we. My mom's still in Midlandhouse. She's working in the oil field, doing, like, the hats. Like, raised rowdy hats. Yeah, those hats. Well, she does, like, Chevron hats. Oh, nice shirt. So, pipeline markers, top to bottom.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah, that's cool. I've been to Midland ever. To rock and rodeo.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Out there, that little club.
Yeah, I've been clubs, bro. You're at the club, cuz. I was a tour manager, so I was going wherever. Wherever Muscadine bloodline played up until Covid and wherever Trey Lewis played after dick down in Dallas came out, I was there.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Oh, I've spent. I spent all the time.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: I spent a lot of time in a van. Got lucky. Spent some times in a bus for a little while, but. Spent a lot of time driving around in a van. Driving through Texas.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Honestly.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Were you the driver of the van?
[00:23:23] Speaker B: I was the driver. I was. I was the driver. I was the tour manager. I was the merch seller. I was security. I was a little bit. A little bit. Everything. Everything but the guy. But doing the stuff on stage. I don't got a musical bone in my body, but. But I love.
[00:23:37] Speaker A: I love being here to protect you. Make sure you get there.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Make sure we get paid. You know?
[00:23:42] Speaker A: All.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: That's the worst part.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: Part, bro. At the end of the night.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: Like, where's the money? And they're like, we paid you already.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: And you're like, that's what a tour manager fixes. That's what you'll have. What does the team kind of look like right now?
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So my band is still the same from day one. All the dudes that I recorded take a slow with that. Those are the dudes that are here now. And. And then my tour manager was tour manager for Tyler Halverson for a while.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Oh, hell, yeah.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: So. And then he. He traveled. I don't know if he knows Muscadine or maybe traveled with him. I know he learned from Alerson. Quentin Allsbrook.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Yeah, so he. He toured with Tyler for a while, and then he saw my videos and stuff, and Tyler's guy, his tour manager, I don't know who it is, but he sent one of my videos to Quentin, and Quentin dmed me, and, dude, this is, like, first month that it happened. I didn't even know what a tour manager was or what it did or, like, what he would even have to do for me. So I was like, like, shrug it off, didn't talk to him. And then my agent Jody was like, hey, we need a tour manager. And she goes, I have Quentin alsbrook. And I was like, hold up. Scroll through my DM's for a while. And I'm like, same dude. So I dmed him back. He hopped on the road with us, and he's figured everything out. And then one of my college buddies is selling merch.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Dude, that's the best way.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: Gets hammered and just sells merch.
[00:25:07] Speaker B: I'm like, what else could you. Is he a single dude?
[00:25:11] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, bro, why does everyone say that?
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Because the merch spot. And I'm in a great. I'm in a great relationship now. Shout out to my lovely. My lovely other half, Miss Aaron. But when I was out with Musk and I. And when I was out with Trey, if you're the merch guy, you are the first person that they are. If the fans are seeing when they walk up.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: So if you're. I used to get that all the time from my. The guys that were in the band. Like, how is the merch guy scoring? And it's like, because I'm the first person they like. I'm the one getting the actual interaction. You guys are. Aren't talking to them until after the show's done, when they've already seen you and they're already hammered. I'm getting to meet them before. So a single dude on the road selling t shirts, and he gets to part. Like, that's a great shout out. What's your buddy's name?
[00:25:54] Speaker A: His name is Luke Boydman.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: If you. If you're watching this and you go to a Hudson show and go see Luke, like, be sure to. Be sure to tell him, like, and buy some t shirts and koozies, man.
[00:26:05] Speaker A: Hey, he's. He's not single, either.
[00:26:08] Speaker B: He's not single.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: He's got a girl.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: He's got a girlfriend.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Disregard, ladies. I'm sorry, but still by.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: But he comes up to me and he's like, dude, people are asking for my snapchat.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: And I'm like, yeah, dude, that's the young. That's the young game. That's how I know I'm getting older is I don't have. I'm telling I'm older, and I'm in a good relationship. I don't have Snapchat anymore. When people snapchat me. I get it through text message, bro. When you deactivate the snap, bro.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: I know. That's what I did have thought about doing because Snapchat is like, I don't get on it at all. Really? Yeah.
I'd rather just call people, figure out the answer. Like, let's just knock it out, but do the funniest story. So I'm waiting. I'm in the merch line, and, like, people are in line, and I'm signing shirts, whatever. And this girl walks up and she's like, hey, how are you doing? Where's your drummer? And I'm like, oh. And then the tour managers like, your quentin's like, hey, do you want, do you want a picture with Hudson? And she's like, no, I want to know where the drummer is. And I'm like, it was like, it threw me off. Oh, that's a humbling moment. I was like, okay. And so I'm like, will come out here. And he comes out here, and I've never seen him more excited. Yeah, he, like, came out so excited, he got noticed. But that's what I want for them, dude. Yeah, it's cool for them, too.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: Have they all been musicians for a while, or are they all kind of new to it as well?
[00:27:24] Speaker A: They've been musicians for a while. So, like, they're. I think they're professional musicians. Like, they can play with anyone a.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: Little bit older than you are, too. No, about the same age. They're young doing this shit.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: So I. One thing to touch on, I want to take, like, the Cody Johnson approach.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:41] Speaker A: I want my dudes from day one to be my dudes at day year ten or year 15.
And, and that's, that's something that means something to me because they saw me in the beginning, and hopefully they can see me in the end, you know? And they're the same age as me, though. And they play at the churches and love it.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Oh, that's where you find the best musicians, bro. Best musicians play on them church kids.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: Yeah, they really do practicing. So we play in, like, text. We play out of state, and then we'll get back on a Saturday night or I guess Sunday morning at, like, 02:00 a.m. they'll wake up and go play an hour and a half set at a church. And I'm like, dude, y'all are animals. Like, good for y'all.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: And loving the Lord, baby. Loving the Lord.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that's been very important, too. Is, like, surrounding myself with a band that not to hate on bands. But a lot of members of a band aren't the most clean. You know, they have a little bit of. They have their own fun. But my band, it's been cool because they're. They. I mean, they don't drink. Anyone can drive the van at any time.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: Dude, that's huge. Yeah, that's huge.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: But they also have fun, too. But, yeah, dude, 99% of the time, like, they show up sober, ready to go, sobere, ready to go to sleep. So, yeah, it's. It's crazy.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: That's a big deal, especially when you're. When you have that rush early on. Usually it's like, oh, shit, we can party. We're playing in front. Look at all these people. Look at this. Oh, this guy says he's got this or this or that, and you get lost in the shuffle and you forget what you're really there for. Especially the band guys. You know, they're out there. They're out there working with you, and it seems like it's like a team environment. It doesn't seem like. It's like they feel like they're. They're working for. They're out there with you.
[00:29:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: And there's a big difference. Working for and working with that's extremely important.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, from the beginning, it was gonna be a band thing, and then we had some. Some mix ups with some early band members, and then I was like, look, I'm gonna do it as myself thing, but I didn't write the lead line to my first song, and I didn't. I didn't go play with me at my first gig. Like, I wasn't the one playing all the instruments behind me. Like, they. They're the reason I'm able to sing the song that I wrote. And so that's been a very big staple for me, is, like, it's a we thing. Like, if you need a ride home, if you need. If you want to go. If your girlfriend wants to come on the road. My lead player, his girlfriend wanted to come on the road. I was like, bring her on. Like, let's go. I don't care.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:12] Speaker A: And. And then she sold merch for us, so I was like, you probably sold.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: A lot of merch that.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Yeah, a lot more than with Luke at the merch table, but, yeah, that's great, dude.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: So what are kind of. What. What do you like doing when you're not doing the music stuff?
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: So who is Hudson Westbrook? Like, what do you like getting into and shit?
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So recently I got a dove lease, so I'm gonna go dove hunting into the fall. I'm gonna try to get that to get off, get out of the music. So we have our headline tour, and then after that, I'm gonna go hunt. So, day after we play Bonita Creek hall, I'm driving straight to Brady, Texas, and going dove hunting with my family, so. And then, dude, the main deal that I've, like, kind of resorted my time to, which is kind of odd, but, um, is, like, I've been reading, which is really weird in my phone. Like, I read a lot now, and I never read, but nothing wrong with that.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I haven't read a book in a minute. Yeah, I haven't read a book in a minute.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: Really?
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah. It's been a while, dude. Honest. Honest to God. And it's like, I do. I. All these podcasts, and we go to festivals and stuff, and we're. We host, like, a dozen events a month here in town. Like, we're always just running, run, run. My business partner, Nick, reads all the time. He reads a lot of, like, the self help, like, management books and all that. He's recommended something. I haven't picked one up yet. What kind of stuff are you reading, if you don't mind?
[00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm reading. There's one. There's one on apple. It's called, like, love poetry, and it's literally just poetry, like a poem on every page.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: And so I guess that kind of draws inspiration towards music, but.
[00:31:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: And then american sniper, I read that one.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: Oh, the book.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: So you've obviously.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: I'm sure you've seen the movie.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: What was. What was better, the book or the movie?
[00:31:56] Speaker A: The book.
[00:31:56] Speaker B: The book, sure.
[00:31:57] Speaker A: Because a book gives you, like, thoughts into what was in Chris Cowell's mind, and, like, gives thoughts into. Gives information that you would have never got from the movie, and you witness it in the movie, but, like, what is. When he's making this face in the movie, this is, like, what's actually going on in his head. That was the coolest thing. Like, when he had the scene where he was the little kid with the bomb came out.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: And. And he, like, had a flashback to, like, kids. Like, in that moment, he was, like, thinking of his own kid. And it explains all that throughout the book. And I don't know, I think that's so much cooler.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then you can envision kind of what it looks like versus have orchards actually watching it in the theater on Netflix or something. Yeah, that's cool. So, books? Dove hunting.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been dove hunting. Or gonna go dove hunting. And then I'm trying to think, dude. Oh, playing basketball.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: Me and my buddies play basketball a lot. Me and the band played basketball after band rehearsals till, like, 02:00 a.m. the other night.
And then I am so at tech, we do. Or I'm in a fraternity at tech, and so we do shout out the fry. Shout out, fight out.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: I doubt. All right. I'm sure they're gonna love.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Yeah, but we hang. That's, like, where all my time goes is to that. Most of the time, we went to the lake. That's a big one, dude. Surfing, surf, surfing at the lake, wakeboarding, snowboarding. All that stuff is right up my alley. I'd rather. I'd rather go the lake than the ocean, if that says anything.
[00:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah, okay.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: See, I'm more. I'm, like, split. Because I've had good times at the ocean, and I've had, recently, some really good times at lakes, especially here in Tennessee, because growing up in New York, like, we had, like, the Jersey Shore, like, Delaware, or you up to, like, Maine, like, you're along the coast, but being out here, it's like your landlocked. It's like, Texas obviously has a coast, but youre pretty far away from that in Stephenville, so you find the watering hole or something. That's a little bit of a different vibe.
[00:33:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So, like, my favorite thing to do is go down to Austin. My brother has a boat, and we just go surf, hang out.
They have, like, a little restaurant on the lake. So you just pull into a slot and go eat, get hammered, and then get back. Get back on the boat and try to surf. Yeah, but. And then we grew up with the boat, too, so my mom had a boat, and then this past fall went.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: To telluride, so I went out to Utah for the first time this year. I didn't ski or snowboard. We just took a trip out there, like, around St. Patrick's Day, and it's cool, dude. It's like a different world out there. We were in, like, just outside of Park City.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: So, yeah, we went through Park City on St. Patrick's Day, which a cool little spot to go to for St. Patrick's Day. All those old historic westerners. They did. They had. They had green beer, they had people playing the bagpipes, walking around. They had all kinds of. All kinds of shit. But it's like a different, like, the west coast or, like the western, like the Rockies and all that stuff. It's like a different world. That's what's so cool about traveling around. You're gonna, it sounds like you've already seen a bunch, but doing, doing the music thing, being an artist, you're gonna get to see coast to coast over time, dude.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: It's weird. They'll be like, yeah, we just booked you a gig in south Dakota, and then the next day you got to be in Iowa. And I'm like, what?
[00:35:15] Speaker B: It's routing, bro.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: How's that gonna work? But, yeah, it is routing.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: It works, dude. It works. I've done the overnight drives again. I was the, the van driver, the bandwagon driver, and you can get eight, nine if you're just 8 hours in between a gig you gotta get. Then that's where the buses come into. When you eventually get to that point.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: I've been looking forward. Like, we've been playing with Josh Abbott and went to cotton fest, and you see all these buses and you're like, dude, one day. One day I'll go to sleep and wake up at the next game.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Yes, yes.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: But I feel like that's something to work for.
[00:35:46] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, absolutely. But the time that you get with the boys in the van.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: Oh, I'll never look back.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: There's nothing like the conversation when you've got 3 hours left to go and you're just in there with your boys. The best part is driving, driving out there. The first, going to the first show, it was always my favorite because everybody's. Nobody's tired yet. Everybody's excited, looking for energy. The ride out to the show one and the ride home from show two, three, four is definitely a different.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I'll never look back on it and be like, I regret the nights in the van. Or, like, I hated those nights in the van because those are the nights, like, I have my acoustic and I'm writing, and, like, they're all pitching in. Yeah, those, those nights are like, what I'm gonna remember for the rest of my life. And, and the other day we played a gig in oklahoma, and then the next night we played in Texas Arcana. The difference in our energy level, setting up and, like, everything. I was like, all right, let's go. Come on. Everyone wake up and everyone's dead by the end. And I. We're gonna go on runs for.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna look up exactly where you're going. Do you know exactly where you're going and stuff? You have memorized.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: I have it on my phone.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: I'm impressed. I'm impressed. When artists remember exactly. You're not supposed to know where you're.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I've no idea.
[00:37:02] Speaker B: You're supposed to be focusing on the music, song, and. And life and everything. So I want to see, like. And you got your own website now.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Hudson Westbrook.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, dude, it's fucking sick. But, like, it's crazy to think, like, four months.
Four months and you're doing this.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. It's weird.
Ask myself that every day. What happened?
[00:37:27] Speaker B: When did the switch flip where you're like, oh, shit, this is working?
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Probably when we put two way drive out and people, when I. When I first teased two way drive, people were like, he did it again. My biggest fear, bro, is like, one hit wonder.
[00:37:42] Speaker B: And I was like, yeah, you don't want that.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: But that's when I started taking it seriously, and then people started taking me a little bit more serious, and we're like, okay, this is.
This is something to hold on to, I guess, and figure out what we can do.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: Oh, some fun shows coming up.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Steven. Oh, how's that twisted j show gonna feel for you?
[00:38:00] Speaker A: That's gonna be. As a local kid, I said that from day one. I said, my dream is go back to my hometown and play a headlining show. And we're about to do it in what, how big? 18 days?
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah. How big. How big is the twisted j? Because that's one I haven't been.
[00:38:12] Speaker A: I think it's capit. Thousand? Yeah, thousand.
[00:38:15] Speaker B: How many have you been? Have you been to shows there?
[00:38:17] Speaker A: Yeah, concerts.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: Who have you seen there?
[00:38:19] Speaker A: I saw Tyler Hofferson. I saw Flatland.
I've seen Logan Ryan.
I think that's it because you had to be. When I was in high school, that was the only time I was going there. And you have to be 21 and up. So we got in a few times, but we got in a few times, and that was fun. And it watching those shows, like, that inspires you to. You're like, imagine people singing your lyrics that you wrote on a piece of paper out loud to your melody. Like, I don't know. That's to see it. That people doing that now with me has been the craziest part about the entire experience. The coolest part is, like, when you start. Stop singing and everyone starts singing.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah, dude.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: And you're, I don't know. At cooks, the first gig I played take it slow, come out four days before, and I. And I stepped back from the mic and just, like, watched everyone sing it, and I was like, dude, that is cool. Yeah, very. I had, like, no words for it, but very cool.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: So, Stephenville, the Huntsville to college Station, hitting all them college. You're. And when does school start back up in Texas?
[00:39:35] Speaker A: The 22nd, 16th around there. So it's gonna be like, everyone's first.
[00:39:40] Speaker B: So college stays. You're. You're. You're hitting it during silly week. Yeah, you're hitting. I know.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Everyone's like, you're gonna miss silly week. And I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be at their silly week.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: You're gonna be at a and m silly week. You're gonna be at Baylor silly week, bro, those are gonna be fucking Tarleton. It's being in Stephenville.
[00:39:57] Speaker A: It's gonna be silly.
[00:39:58] Speaker B: Weak, dude, that's gonna be sick.
[00:39:59] Speaker A: I'm excited to go back Steamville and go out with my buddies after the show. Yeah, that'll be cool.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: That'll probably be the best part. That's. That tells you, like, how. How much, like, because when you're not here, are you living in Lubbock or.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: Yeah, so I'm living in Lubbock. So it's been a kind of, like, what the heck deal with all my friends and Stevenville. They.
They don't understand, like, the level of it, or they do understand it, or they don't know how. What's going on.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: And so for me to go back and play a show and just get to talk to all of them, I've been looking forward to that since we booked it.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: How do you. How do you keep in touch with them? Is it like a group chat? Is it, like, fortnite?
[00:40:37] Speaker A: I mean, we have, like, our old football group chat, and every time, like, they'll send me some, like, dumbass video, them singing my song and, like, giving me shit for it, and I'm like, it's funny, and you need those people in your life. I was like, screw you, dude. But then I was, like, laughing at it. I was like, at least they're paying attention, dude. They're supporting. But we have that group chat, and then all my buddies that I hog hunted with back in Stephenville, we had a group chat. So we talked through that.
[00:41:04] Speaker B: Yeah, the buddies that you played football with, that's just continuing what it was like in the locker room.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Back when you were playing, actually. And there's something special about that, too. Very similar to riding around in the van with the guys in the bandaid. That's, like, kind of like, our locker room kind of thing. Yeah.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: And music is. Is band versus band, artist versus artists. You know, it's. That's. I love the competitive edge of it. Like, if I work hard and I write songs, like, who knows what level it can get to? You know, it's very. What you put in or what. Like, what you put in is what you're gonna get out. And so that's been exciting. But I've also met other artists, and I. I would support them till anyone.
[00:41:44] Speaker B: The guys that you just named, too, like going to a Tyler Halverson show. Yeah, I remember I first met Tyler, like, during COVID or maybe a little bit before, and he used to play our songwriters nights, and he had just switched from his artist name being Tyler David to Tyler Halverson. And I never knew his. Yeah, dude, I've known Tyler for. We've had him on the pod. We did the first one in his garage, like, early days in his garage at his house in east Nashville, and then we did the other one at our old studio that we used to be at. And him and I had to take a break during that episode because we got so high.
[00:42:20] Speaker A: Dude, bro, if you drop. If you drop an ep or an album called a marijuana, bro.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And you've got dude Halverson. And it's just, again, like, similar to you where it's like, you're definitely influenced by stuff. Like, we can hear the Parker McCollum in there. Like, you. You. We can hear the shit that you grew up on and that you love listening to, but you're doing it in your own way.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: You can hear Tyler's western II kind of americana influence.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: I love his melanie. There's melon intoxicating.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: Dude. I even like some of those beer.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Garden baby on the way home. Yeah, that's good song, bro.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: It's. Yeah, it's. And it's that song. And then what's the other one? There's one Mac Miller even on his new stuff, like it because he's. It's like he's lean even. He had a damn song in the Twisters soundtrack that fly over me angel song where it's like that weird, kind of like poppy production.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Like closer. He just dropped. I love that, dude. That melody is crazy.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, I love all of his. All of his shit. Takes eight is one of my favorites. Dude, that whistling that going to do, like, when he. When he plays that live, it's just another level. 94 Camaro was one that he used.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: To play at the writers round.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: He used to play at the writers rounds. And he'd get through that. That. That first verse of, like, one for my mama, the other, like the two dents in the door. One from my mama, one from that whore.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: Yeah, one for my mama, the other for that.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: And the whole room at Live Oak would just kind of look up, be like. He just says. And then he rips out that harmonica. Are you a harmonica guy?
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Rip. I can. I can play. Yeah, I can't write my own wrist like that. You can. Er, but I can. I can play anyone or cover anyone's.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz it's like the harmonica is just another. It's just people with that out and it's just a fucking.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: We're gonna pull it out on performance.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: Performance enhancer, bro. That just. You want to get a room going, just start ripping on harmonica. Just like the fiddle, bro. Fiddle, harmonica. There's certain instruments that when you hear them, the whole room.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: And mandolin.
[00:44:25] Speaker B: Mandolin's another one, dude. Yeah.
[00:44:27] Speaker A: We just got done recording a song and I was like, I don't care what we do, I just want mandolin.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: And so we literally had one part where it just went.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: I was like, yeah, like, you made it in there. That's like the scene in Saturday Night Live where they're like, we need more cowbell. Yeah, I don't care about whatever it needs the cowbell. And it's like, yeah, just needs the man. What's it been like working over at Amber Sound and with Ryan in those guys?
[00:44:51] Speaker A: That's been great. Um, me and him, I basically send him. I haven't been building demos, so, dude, I just recorded on my iPhone. I send it to him and me and him work back and forth on how we want it to sound and get on like an hour phone call and then we hop in the studio. Dude, last time I was there, his son's in there. Oh, dude, he has his headphones on. Dude, I wish I had the picture. It's literally like a mini me sitting next to me and he's. He's crying. He's like, my headphones are broken. And then we're trying to record a song and dude, it was hilarious. But, um, I love them over there. It's. I wanted it to sound like a live band is playing in the car and that's what it sounded like with these recent tracks. So.
[00:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, dude, it's a cool room and it's, like, under his house, too, so. So upstairs. A lot of people don't know this, and it's through the end of. Through the end of this year, we're gonna be moving. But upstairs is where my business partner, Nikki T lives.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: Really?
[00:45:46] Speaker B: He lives upstairs. And then Tyler Lassard, who is Muscadines tour manager, production manager. My old. My old podcast, that's when I started this years ago, lives there. And then that front room, when you walk in the living room upstairs, you see all the Muscadine merch, and then you see the raised rowdy merch. All of our merch is kept, really? That's, like, until we had this place, all the podcasts were in that, like, Brian's mixing room. That's that first bedroom on the right or whatever. So it's like that house. There's a lot of history in there. There is, you know, and all the Muscadine stuff that's come out of there. All the Tyler stuff, your stuff coming out of there right now. Ashley Ann's recording in there. Joe Fortner recorded in there. Like, a lot of cool shit, dude. And it's kind of nice to record, like you said, in the. In the bottom of a house versus, like, you don't need all these, like, bells and whistles. You just need your boys to come in and jam with you.
[00:46:34] Speaker A: That's what I was. I wanted to emphasize, you know, there's. We had to take it slow, and then I ended up coming up here in two way drive and all those other tracks, and I wanted to. I wanted to come to Nashville, but I wanted to keep the Texas sound. That was very important.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: Like, keep that authentic, just live band sound. And so we went in there, and he was like, just tell me the instruments you want. Tell me where you want them, and we'll put them in there. And so we did hire studio musicians, but they came out great.
[00:47:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: And I got as a reference from Muscadine.
I love his drum tone. That was the main deal. Yeah, but, yeah, that's awesome, dude.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: That's awesome. So how much longer are you here in town?
[00:47:14] Speaker A: So I'll be here till the 14th.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: So 14th. Oh, extended trip. So what else do you got on the docket?
[00:47:20] Speaker A: So I have rights throughout the week.
We have. We're recording with Ryan on Friday, so we're gonna record two new ones, and then we shoot content Saturday, Sunday, and then I'll fly back and just hang out for a few days. And then fly back.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Nice. What do you do for fun when you're out here?
[00:47:38] Speaker A: Go out? Yeah.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: Where are your spots?
[00:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah, so we went.
Was it red door?
[00:47:44] Speaker B: Red door, bro.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: Yeah, red. That was fun. That was after so that was back when CMA fest was going on. So, like, co Wetzel is there all 60?
[00:47:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:47:54] Speaker A: Got to meet all 60. Those are some cool.
[00:47:57] Speaker B: Those are, yeah. Their first event. So similar to you, where they had just kind of, they used to jam out and they all worked at a pizza shop, galaxy pizza up in Owensboro, Kentucky.
[00:48:07] Speaker A: Really?
[00:48:07] Speaker B: And they used to just jam out after hours. Yeah, they were working in a pizza store, pizza pizzeria. And they used to, we got connected with them, and we had their first show at fucking winners. And they got to the end, they were playing smoke and a light, and, like, we didn't practice how to end it. And I, that, that was, that would pro, that was in January. Now this. They're opening for Zach Bryan coming up at Mercedes Benz down, insane down in Atlanta. And it's like, not even though, dude. Oh, dude, they, like, I said, jacob Young, fucking Ryan, Lassie, fucking that whole crew. Do. We had them. I had them on not too long ago. I had Jacob. I had Jacob on here, and we were talking about all the stuff that they've got, dude. And it. The power of social media and the.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Power of just scrolling on TikTok. Now I'm hot. Breathe. Now I'm hot. I'm like, dude, they are in that algorithm.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: They were, dude, social media stress you out at all?
[00:49:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like you can get caught up in the numbers very bad. And if they're going, they'll go well, one day, and the next day they won't. And that has been a big learning curve for me because right off the bat, they were through the roof. And then there's, there was days when I wasn't seeing any numbers, and then there was days when people were blowing up my phone and then days when they're not. And I'd say, now I'm, I go write a song, I make a post. I respond to my fans, because that's extremely important to me, dude. And then I try to just put it away, you know, because you can get consumed for sure. Like you said, deleting Snapchat. Great idea.
[00:49:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Best tip for anyone. And the funny thing is, like, throughout my past relationships, Snapchat was the biggest problem.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:46] Speaker A: You left me on red. You were active 1 minute ago. I'm like, bro, what have we come to?
[00:49:51] Speaker B: How are you like this? Go pick up a book.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: I know.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: I'm like, go read a book.
[00:49:56] Speaker A: So I started reading love poems, trying to fix so bad, but, um, I wouldn't say it's bad. It's actually good.
[00:50:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Anyways. But I. Social media, definitely. I'm thankful for it.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: That's the reason I'm here, and no one would have heard about me without.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: It, but, yeah, I mean, I feel like yours. There's ways. I feel like you're. You're talented, dude. You write some good fucking songs. You. And you're a good fucking dude too. I'm like. I'm, like, trying. I'm like, damn. I'm looking at fucking Texas Riley green over here. Just good old boy. Literally. You tell me. What the. Damn. What the. What was it? But not bush hogging. That's cutting trees and stuff. What was the thing you were doing? The hog there?
[00:50:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Halter breaking.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: The halter breaking. Like, all this. All this stuff works at a feed store. You worked at $8. What was the feed store called? Was it called HMC, hf, and C?
[00:50:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I spent some cold days out there.
[00:50:51] Speaker B: Cold days.
[00:50:51] Speaker A: Yeah. So it'd be like negative two in Lubbock, winds blowing. You takes, right. People don't eat some lunch, and then you eat lunch, and you're like. And it's like dust in your jaws, bro.
[00:51:01] Speaker B: That.
[00:51:02] Speaker A: That sucked. But, um, one of the dudes there played guitar too, but it was. I was, like, delivering hay. So I'd go throw off 150 bells and stack them and then come back, do another delivery because the new guy had to do all the deliveries. And I worked there for two months. And those deliveries were, like, the worst part, but the best part was listening to music on the way to the delivery. That's what I look forward to. And not being watched by everyone. So, like, I'd go. I'd go get a delivery. I'd go by the gas station, get food, like, revamp up, and that come back, and they'd be like, all right, here's the receipt. And I'd read it, and I'd be like, dude, damn. Again.
So I'd do it again. And then you walk back, and they're all laughing at you. Oh, that. Yeah, that shit sucked, but, yeah.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: What do you miss about Texas? When I guess you don't. You don't live here fully yet, but, like, what are, like, the Texas staples? Like, do you hate that the rest of the world knows about Bucky's? Are you like, fuck yeah. Bucky's is national.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Bucky's national.
[00:52:03] Speaker B: You like it? You like it?
[00:52:04] Speaker A: Whataburger. I wanted a gatekeep, but that got outside.
[00:52:07] Speaker B: We got one right here. Yeah, bro.
[00:52:10] Speaker A: I did text Zeb, the guy you know? Yep. I texted Zeb and I was like, do I have water burger before I flew here? And he's like, yes, we have whataburger? He was like, was that what? If you were gonna come or not? It's like, if that's the problem, we have worries, bro.
[00:52:26] Speaker B: I can't get my honey butter chicken biscuit. I ain't coming to Nashville.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: Exactly. That's. That's where we go all the time and love it. Hammered honey bar chicken biscuit. Yeah.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: When I've.
[00:52:37] Speaker A: I'm excited for that to come back, though. Like, honey butter college to come back.
[00:52:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. To have.
[00:52:44] Speaker A: But for college to come back, me like, to hang out my buddies and go do just, like, natural things, you know?
[00:52:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: Not like I'm flying to Nashville on this day and going here on this.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: Date, so get back in some normalcy and some routine.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: That's what I'm. I would say I miss more than Texas itself is, like, steadily being in Lubbock and having everything planned out, you know, because it's been so, like you said four months ago, dude. Like, that's crazy. But we've been having to run at a four months pace, you know? So I'm ready to be back and love it. Take classes, some consistency.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Look, what classes do you have this semester?
[00:53:24] Speaker A: You know, I just planned it out, dude.
I have statistics.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: Okay. Numbers. Fun.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: Not really, but fun.
[00:53:34] Speaker A: Not fun at all.
I don't know how that relates to music, but if I ever need to build a business, I'll know. And then I'm doing history, american history.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:53:45] Speaker A: And then taking Spanish three, Spanish four or something like that. Either that or study abroad to get my minor in.
[00:53:52] Speaker B: You speak Spanish?
[00:53:53] Speaker A: No.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: No, but you get that minor.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: I have enough. I know enough to, like, try to get my minor.
[00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: So I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to. But, um. And then I have, like, intro to cinema.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: Intro to cinema? Movies? Yeah.
[00:54:08] Speaker A: You watch a movie and basically.
I don't get it, dude. Like, I'm. You watch the movie and then you, like, convey why they filmed it the way they did. I don't know. It's like, why is this black and white? Or why is this part not in English or all that type of stuff?
[00:54:24] Speaker B: Okay. Like, analyzing movies.
[00:54:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:26] Speaker B: There's worse classes to take than that. That's not too bad.
[00:54:29] Speaker A: No, that's not bad.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: That's not too bad. Yeah.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: But I'm definitely. I'm just getting what I need to get my minor.
[00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: So. Or I guess my basics and so if next year, dude, I'm dealt with a whole different set of tools and a whole different set of.
I mean, I don't know where my life looks like, where I'll be in a year, you know?
[00:54:51] Speaker B: I didn't know you'd be here in four months.
[00:54:53] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:54:55] Speaker B: Four months from now, we're coming up on the end of the year, and who knows where you're gonna be after that? You'll be done with that first headlining tour.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: I know. I'm excited to see where it's gonna go, you know? And if I work my ass off, where it will get, you know. So we'll see. Yeah, hopefully I can push myself to drop out hard enough.
[00:55:17] Speaker B: I know people that have done that, dude. I've. I know buddies that I've. I have one buddy.
[00:55:21] Speaker A: So do you know anyone that's, like, been in a similar position that has.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: I have a. My buddy Wade is on the road. Has been on the road since he was another guy that I met at red door. We spent many times in the smoking section together. Late night cigs shout out Wade. And Wade was on the road with. At the time. He was on the road. He was on the road with. With Noah Hicks for a while with Austin snow. Now he's been on the Lauren Watkins gig for a while.
[00:55:46] Speaker A: Really?
[00:55:47] Speaker B: That Lauren Watkins gig includes opening for wall and at stadiums. It's crazy. So he did. I kept coming up to me.
[00:55:53] Speaker A: My girlfriend, Stormy, loves Lauren Watkins.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:56] Speaker A: Oh, dude, care pack Lauren in the mail.
[00:55:59] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, we love. Lauren's the shit. She was actually in here recently. She was it. She was in here recently, drinking. Drinking the surfside as well. We love.
Hell, yeah. We love. We love. We love Lauren. She's great. But Wade was thinking about dropping out, but ended up not dropping out. And get this. The one of the coolest. Like, one of the coolest. Like, young, like, young, like, young kid coming up playing stories. So it was in June. He played. It was either May or June, but Lauren was opening for wall and at Nissan Stadium here in Nashville earlier that day, Wade walked at commencement and got his degree from Belmont. So he got his degree in the afternoon.
[00:56:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:41] Speaker B: And then was on stage that night. That's doing what he wanted and still got his degree. That's impressive, which is very impressive. Yeah, dude, so there is a way to do it, you know?
[00:56:51] Speaker A: And now I can tell myself, if that dude did it, then I can do it.
[00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah, you could. You could walk. You could walk and walk in Lubbock and then. And then play a sold out. How cool would that be?
[00:57:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:02] Speaker B: That would, to me, would be the ultimate commencement thing in three years.
[00:57:06] Speaker A: I could go playing Lubbock and play a sold out outside show.
[00:57:11] Speaker B: Yeah, but, like, in the quad or something.
[00:57:13] Speaker A: That'd be crazy.
[00:57:14] Speaker B: That'd be a Texas tech moment, bro. That'd be a Texas tech moment. Yeah. I'd be all time.
[00:57:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: Be really all time. How are. How are the Red Raiders gonna be in football?
[00:57:26] Speaker A: Dude.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: Dude.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: All right.
Are you Texas tech? Shout out Matt Wells.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:33] Speaker A: Y'all are great, but I don't. I don't know, dude. We. We have faith every year, and we have. But I think. I think he has a good thing going. And I. I hate how, in college football nowadays, it's, like, transfer portal, and, like, this guy moves here, and then this coach is done after two years.
[00:57:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:50] Speaker A: But, um, they're keeping them around, so I'm excited to see what they can do. I think they'll do good. I think. I think they'll do better than last year.
[00:57:57] Speaker B: Is it gonna be weird not having Texas in the big twelve?
[00:58:00] Speaker A: Dude, I forgot about.
[00:58:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Texas and Oklahoma are now. That's gonna be now SEC schools, animal.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:06] Speaker B: Now sec schools.
[00:58:08] Speaker A: I think it'll be good. I think it'll be a different.
You're definitely gonna see the teams, like, try to adjust, too. I feel like within the SEC and within the big twelve, you're gonna see those teams, like, try to.
Because the big twelve has its own little deal. The SEC has its own little deal.
[00:58:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:26] Speaker A: And so it'll be cool to see what that frames out to be Texas tech being around. Not being around. What is it? Oh, you.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: I'm gonna look.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: Yeah, look.
[00:58:34] Speaker B: I'm gonna look up where all these schools went. Have you played the college football game yet?
[00:58:38] Speaker A: No, actually, yeah, I have, with my buddies.
[00:58:40] Speaker B: I was gonna say that to me growing up as a kid was. And I'm a little bit older than you are. That was, to me, like, my childhood was.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: That was my childhood. I got my brother's PS two.
[00:58:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I forgot. You have older brothers. Yeah, dude, PS two with, like, Darren McFadden on the COVID or, like, Denard Robinson on the COVID bro.
[00:58:57] Speaker A: They have the mascot deal now.
[00:59:00] Speaker B: The mascot play is the mascot.
[00:59:03] Speaker A: They play as, like, the Stanford trees.
[00:59:05] Speaker B: Yeah, every tree.
What's the. What's. What's the red Raider mascot look like? You guys have a mask.
[00:59:12] Speaker A: It's a matador, so.
[00:59:13] Speaker B: Matador.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: It's like a horse. Basically what it is. It's. They ride out before the game on it. And so interesting flares go off and it runs across the field.
[00:59:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm going to look up what the current big twelve is. I grew up a Virginia tech fan, so I grew up. Yeah. God, my uncle had gone there. Yeah. I mean, when I was. When I was younger, though, we had some good years. We had a long streak of, I think it was like almost 20 years of ten or more wins. We just couldn't win the damn bowl games. We beat Kansas and won that.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: Weird, though, that there wasn't a play on one.
[00:59:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, dude, that was my. That was the. The BC's era, bro. I remember that. Let me see what's. What's in your equestrian? We're not clicking on big twelve equestrian. I'm sure Texas Tech's great at big twelve equestrian.
[00:59:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:00:00] Speaker B: I'm sure you guys have a great equestrian team out there. Where do the teams. Okay. Oh, wow. Fucking big twelve, dude. Arizona and Arizona State are in it now.
[01:00:10] Speaker A: Really?
[01:00:10] Speaker B: Because the pac twelve is no more.
[01:00:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: Baylor, BYu, central Florida is in the big twelve.
Cincinnati, Colorado, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Utah, West Virginia has been in there for a while.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:26] Speaker B: It's not. It looks weird to not see Oklahoma and not see Texas in there. You lose these rivalries.
[01:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Realize.
[01:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Because the big ten ended up with, like, Oregon and Washington.
[01:00:36] Speaker A: Baylor still in there.
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Baylor still in there.
[01:00:38] Speaker A: Baylor.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah, Baylor by Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State stayed and then Oklahoma left.
[01:00:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:45] Speaker B: So now it's like. But the cop with the gonna play, though. I hope they do because Texas a amp m and Texas stop playing when a and M moved.
[01:00:51] Speaker A: I know.
[01:00:52] Speaker B: So it's like, you guys might lose that. Might not play that UT game.
[01:00:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: Which is odd.
[01:00:57] Speaker A: That's weird.
[01:00:58] Speaker B: It's weird to think about you.
[01:00:59] Speaker A: Tcu.
[01:01:00] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like. And then you got to go. They got central Florida.
[01:01:03] Speaker A: You think it'll be tougher or easier?
[01:01:05] Speaker B: I think. I mean. Cause I'm trying to think, like, what the teams are like. Like how these. I don't know much about these much about these teams, but. Yeah. No Oklahoma. No. I still think it'll be the classic big twelve who can get closest to 100 points. That's how you win a big twelve football game. You guys take all your best players and put them on offense. Oh, you're fast. You can catch. You're not being a d bag, you're being a receiver. We're going to get a quarterback. Like, who was the guy back in that? Graham Harrell. Was that the guy that Texas Tech, there was a guy back in the Mike Leach days rip. Mike Leach the threw for I think was like 6000 or 7000 like an absurd amount of yards.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Crabtree. True.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Michael Crabtree.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: Dude he was, he was cold, he was good. And then obviously Patrick Mahomes.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: Oh yeah. You guys did have my home. Yeah, I always forget that because I, that was like I stopped watching college football ironically like when I was in college but like when I was in high school I would watch it all the time but yeah, I forget about.
[01:01:57] Speaker A: Dude, the weirdest thing is that at tech like you, you know he's good and then he goes to the Chiefs and you're like he explodes. Yeah, I don't, I don't know, I don't know what happened. He was good at Tech and I. Ready Reid. Yeah.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: Andy Reid and sitting behind, kudos to.
[01:02:14] Speaker A: The Chiefs for yeah.
[01:02:15] Speaker B: Getting him and taking a chance.
[01:02:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know what it's turned into now is crazy.
[01:02:20] Speaker B: He's one of the best sitting behind Alex Smith for a couple years. So you're in the sports. So what are your, like, what are you, are you more in the college teams or pro teams?
[01:02:27] Speaker A: College teams.
[01:02:28] Speaker B: College teams. Okay.
[01:02:29] Speaker A: Cuz I feel like in college you're working to get to the pros so they're trying their hardest and then once you get to the pros you still have to try for sure. But I mean you're 21 years old in your prime and those dudes are like grinding to get a spot on the next roster. So that, that's why I like college sports better.
[01:02:47] Speaker B: I see. I'm a big pro guy.
[01:02:49] Speaker A: Really.
[01:02:49] Speaker B: I'm from New York, bro. We got, we got 13 professional teams, 13 pro sports teams in New York. Yeah, you got the, in baseball you got Yankees Mets football, you got giants, jets hockey, you've got Rangers, Islanders, we'll count the Devils, you've got the Rangers.
[01:03:09] Speaker A: And Islanders play each other.
[01:03:10] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Oh, that's a huge rivalry. That's a huge rivalry. In the stadiums. Giants and jets play each other, Yankees and Mets play each other. You have the Buffalo Bills which is a little bit different. Buffalo's like going from Amarillo to, that's like somebody namearillo Clinton, Dallas, you know, it's all different. But, but yeah, like it's all like the pro teams up there. Like our rivalries weren't like the college rivalries. It wasn't like I'm not good, like I'm not passionate about like Rutgers football or like army. I grew up going to army games, which are fun, but it's like the rivalries are with, like, Boston and Philly and all our pro teams. Like, fuck the Red Sox.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:42] Speaker B: Fuck the Eagles.
[01:03:43] Speaker A: Fuck Patriots.
[01:03:45] Speaker B: You know, those are my words with you guys. It's like. It's like I'm a tech guy. I'm not a UT guy. Yeah, not an a and m guy. Yeah.
[01:03:52] Speaker A: I mean, it's like everyone's a Dallas Cowboys guy, but no one's also, you know, there's no, like, central college, but there's.
[01:03:59] Speaker B: There's a bunch of them. Yeah.
[01:04:01] Speaker A: Dallas cowboys, everyone's into.
[01:04:03] Speaker B: So what's your least favorite. What's, like, your. Your rival?
[01:04:06] Speaker A: The least favorite school?
[01:04:07] Speaker B: These favorite of the schools. Like, to watch, like, ut, for sure. Ut's like, dude, we got.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: Was it last year? We got beat 76, 76 to twelve. And, like, people are still, like, clapping for UT and they're, like, putting in their third string, still scoring, and they're still going nuts. And I'm like. I'm just sitting there.
But I did lose my wallet there. I've lost four wallets this year. That's a.
[01:04:36] Speaker B: You've lost four wallets. You've lost as many wallets as you have songs. Maybe this is the new thing. You just got to carry around empty wallets with you. That's it. I'm putting that. I'm putting that on you. You got a carry?
[01:04:46] Speaker A: I've tried, dude. I can't keep up with it. Can't. I don't know why, but I lost my wallet at the UT game. They called Texas Tech, shipped it to tech, and.
[01:04:56] Speaker B: Oh, so you got it bad.
[01:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:58] Speaker B: You get the other three back?
[01:04:59] Speaker A: No, no, dude. I, like, pulled, like, two grand out of my account. Go to the bar that night and just set it on there. Grand paper for a ski trip.
[01:05:10] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. All right.
[01:05:12] Speaker B: Ski. So not the bar.
[01:05:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And so I'm like, I'm about to go on the ski trip. It's about be fun. And I get back from the bar that night, and I'm. I wasn't worried about it then, so I just go to bed, wake up, and I'm, like, shaking my shorts. I'm checking under couch cushions, go all the way back to the bar to see if they have it, and, yeah, it was all lost.
Wait, no, it wasn't. It ended up dude. So I ended up at torchies.
[01:05:38] Speaker B: Oh, God bless torchies. We're talking about shit from Texas. I love torches, bro.
[01:05:42] Speaker A: Three months later, torches calls me and they're hey, we've had your wallet for two months. I don't remember that, bro. I was like, my bad. And so I pulled in. I had the money back, but I ended up going on the ski trip, too.
[01:05:54] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:05:55] Speaker A: Told the story. Yeah, you can come. We feel bad for you.
[01:06:00] Speaker B: That's funny, bro. That's funny. So I always ask the question, what's something you would ask your. Your younger self, but you're just getting started with this shit. So what's something that you would ask Hudson, and, like, what's something that you, like, want to know that you're, like, eager to know, like, in the future?
[01:06:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:16] Speaker B: Like, what would you ask yourself a year from now, a year from now being 16 months into it versus four?
[01:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
It would be. Where do you think that this is gonna go? You know? Like. Or you said from 16 months ago, so, like, asking.
[01:06:35] Speaker B: No, like, 16. Yeah. Yeah. Though. I'm asking yours. I'm asking your future self.
[01:06:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:41] Speaker B: Like, we're like. We're like you in August of 2025, what would. What would you ask that yeah. Version of you?
[01:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
Honestly, have. I mean, have you strayed? Stay true to the people that got you where you're at is what I would want to answer and say yes to.
[01:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:06:59] Speaker A: That's the most important thing to me. Like I said, I love the. The Kojo approach of keeping the people around you from the beginning. And are you gonna stay grounded? Are you gonna stay humble? Are you gonna still talk to your family, you know?
[01:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:14] Speaker A: So those are major key points that I've made sure to emphasize, and hopefully I can answer those questions. Yes. And I still have the same group of people around me, so. Yeah, awesome.
[01:07:24] Speaker B: Dude. No, man, you are. You are wise beyond your years, my brother. Like, you are trying to be. No, you are, dude.
[01:07:30] Speaker A: No, you're.
[01:07:31] Speaker B: You're fucking killing it. Seriously. Like, you're. And Peyton, obviously. How'd you meet Peyton, by the way?
[01:07:36] Speaker A: Because we've all Peyton through River house.
[01:07:38] Speaker B: Through river house.
[01:07:39] Speaker A: Okay. And Peyton was like, I showed up the first day, and he's like, dude, if you want to ever work out, you ever want to hang out, just, like, get away from all this. Like, hit me up, bro. And I'm like, well, I don't have a truck, but if you want to come pick me up, bro, that'd be sick.
[01:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:54] Speaker A: And now I'm driving around 1952, so no ac, but, um.
Gotta emphasize that.
[01:08:00] Speaker B: So the truck is outside.
[01:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:08:01] Speaker B: So we gotta go look at it. How'd you acquire this? I feel like, a 52 would be.
[01:08:07] Speaker A: Like my management with Brad Turcotte. He's a. Over at Vector. And so I was like, hey, I know.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: I know Brad very well.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:08:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:08:16] Speaker A: So, yeah, yeah, Brad. He was like, look, I got a daily driver at the house and you can drive it. And I was like, okay. He comes. Snags me. We should pull up. And he pulls the. He had, like, a tarp over it.
[01:08:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:29] Speaker A: And he pulls it off. And I'm like, a daily driver, bro. It's like a restored 1952 Ford. Like, brand new seats, brand new radio, brand new everything. I'm like. I'm like, if this is your daily driver, like, I'm not gonna drive it. Like, if I wreck this thing. And anyways, I'm rolling around, people are like, putting thumbs up to me and I'm like, thanks. Yeah, this is my.
Well, I'm sweating my ass off inside.
[01:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah. But, yeah, shout out, Brad.
[01:08:57] Speaker A: Yeah, shout out Brad for the Ford.
[01:09:00] Speaker B: It's a good fucking.
[01:09:02] Speaker A: I know. I was not expecting. I was expecting, like, a rental car or something, so.
[01:09:08] Speaker B: Well, we're gonna have to go and take a look at it.
[01:09:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you need to look at it.
[01:09:10] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely are. So next. Next song coming out is what you said you were just in the studio with Ryan, or are we in the process?
[01:09:17] Speaker A: We're deciding between studio with Ryan. We're gonna be releasing a song called dopamine next.
[01:09:21] Speaker B: Dopamine. I like that title.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Really cool title. It's definitely. It's kind of everything that I want to. It's been the first song that I've written this. This past on that release. And dopamine are, like, the two ones that I'm like, this is who I am.
[01:09:36] Speaker B: Solo. Solo. Or is it?
[01:09:38] Speaker A: I wrote dopamine with Reed Auton on the back porches.
[01:09:41] Speaker B: Oh, bro, I fucking love read.
[01:09:43] Speaker A: It was raining.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:44] Speaker A: And I remember I just gotten out of a ride, I was like, dude, I don't want to write. I've been writing since day one, since I got here. He's like, dude, just let me pick you up. Let's go grab food.
[01:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:56] Speaker A: And he's like, play the music you listen to. And I played it, and he was like, all right, let's go. Right? We sat down and wrote, and I had the money that, or had the idea of, like, love is a high that you can't buy. And then he was like, well, what if you were chasing that high? And so we. We kind of got into the. The whole theme of the song, and it's basically about, like, I threw out everything. All these drugs, all this alcohol that sent dopamine to my brain, and I'm chasing a high that now I can't buy a. I mean, it's like you can have the ups and downs of alcohol, drugs, all that type of stuff, but that one thing that's consistent is love.
[01:10:38] Speaker B: So hell yeah, dude. That's awesome. I love Reed. I'm very excited that you're.
[01:10:42] Speaker A: He's like the most.
If you write a song to read, you can tell that you wrote a song with Reed.
[01:10:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:10:49] Speaker A: People are like, who'd you write this with? And I was like, Reid. And I can hear it.
[01:10:53] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, he's Alabama boy. Known him for a long time. Love that kid.
[01:10:57] Speaker A: Great.
[01:10:57] Speaker B: Really, really do. He's a great guy, dude. Well, it sounds like everything's going. Everything's going well in the world of Hudson Westbrook. We're gonna have to do this again sometime when you're a little further down.
[01:11:07] Speaker A: Let's do it a year from now.
[01:11:08] Speaker B: Let's do it a year from now. Be like, see? And be like we were asking these questions and all that. That'd be cool, dude. But where do people go to find you on everything?
[01:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah. So Hudson Westbrook on Instagram, Hudson Westbrook Music on TikTok, Facebook, Hudson Westbrook Music, and then YouTube. Just my name, Hudson Westbrook.
[01:11:26] Speaker B: So hell yeah, dude. Well, I appreciate you. Y'all be sure to check out our boy Hudson Westbrook. Be on the lookout for dopamine coming soonish. I'm guessing the way you've been releasing them, they're just fucking flying out, dude. So freaking awesome. And thank you guys, as always for watching. Be sure to like rate, subscribe, tell your mom and them shout out to our friends from Surfside. Shout out to Orca. We're gonna send you home with a bunch of stuff. And we got a bunch of hats over here too. So you guys pick out your hats and stuff and shout out to your girl stormy.
[01:11:54] Speaker A: Shout out stormy.
[01:11:56] Speaker B: You're passing her along. Yeah, you're passing.
[01:11:59] Speaker A: I'm like, we got a podcast in 30 minutes. We gotta go. She's like, I have sweats on, bro.
[01:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Now you go on, whatever. But seriously, thank you guys for my man Hudson. I'm Matt Barrel. This has been outside the round.
I never been the kind for stair one place for too long I never been the best at sin I love you to a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve.
[01:12:28] Speaker A: They usually just make em leave.
[01:12:32] Speaker B: So if you know me if you really know me, you know I'm just a two trick pony. But maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show, I'm just a.
[01:12:43] Speaker A: Two trick on it.
