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[email protected]. Now we're going to get into the episode. This is outside the round with Matt Burrill. Also, make sure you guys like rate subscribe, tell your mama and them. And for more details and to get in touch with the rest of the familia, visit razerowdy.com. Now let's get into it. Outside the Round with me, Matt Barill, a raise rowdy podcast.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: Barill, a Razorwdy podcast.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: Yeah. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to outside the round. We are literally outside today at Razorwoody headquarters. And it's as cool of a podcast setting as I've ever done. I've done a lot of stuff with radio, done a lot of stuff here in town, but never something like this. And I was like, who would the greatest guest be to do something like this? And I called up my boy Will Jones.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: And Will happens to live very close to where we're at right now. You happen to love cigars.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: You happen to love zinn outdoors. And the outdoors and what better? I mean, scenic Hermitage, Tennessee. We might get the fire sirens going off down there.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: But it's pretty awesome, man. So how's your week been going so far?
[00:01:52] Speaker B: My week's been awesome, man. I feel like my weeks are just blending into each other. So it's like I look at it like, the last week's been awesome, but the last year has been awesome. It's like just wide open. And I love it.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, you've done touring and stuff before, and you've gone out of town to do shows, but when you start touring and it's like you're in town writing, you're a family man as well. And then you go out on the road and you're touring, it all kind of just mumbles up to one thing. You forget what fucking day it is.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: 100%.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: I thought yesterday was Thursday. And I kept telling everybody, I was like, hey, Mark's, got a good round over at Grindhouse tonight. Let's go over to live.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: This is a great Monday.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Nuke's. Like, dude, it's Tuesday. I'm like, oh, shit.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: I know, man. I love it, though. And it's like every time I get myself caught in that moment where I'm like, golly, I'm busy, dude. Like, just running gunning, doing the whole freaking shows and then coming home and loving all my baby and my wife and doing all that. But if I ever get, like, a weekend off, I'm like, man, I wish I was out on the road playing a show. Like, even my wife will be like, what are you doing home? Right? Like, it never quits. I think it's for some people, and for some people it ain't. But I love it.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, where were you at? You were out in Texas with Laney, right?
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah, we were over in man, we actually were over in Denmark for like two and a half days. We flew over to Odensa, Denmark, with Blue Foley and all those guys.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Oh, you went on a blue trip? Yeah, dude, I always wanted to go on a Blue Foley.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Oh, man, overseas, dude, it was great, dude. We went over there, flights got delayed like 24 hours, so we end up flying out and we got over there a day later, but we were there for like two and a half days doing the Nashville nights thing, which was killer, dude. We had people coming down from Norway and all kinds of people to hang out with us and see us, so we did that, and then I flew back in and got back into the States. Nashville Monday night at like, ten, and then I left the next day for Texas. And then we were in Texas the rest of that week doing shows with Ashley McBride and Laney Wilson and all kinds. Neil McCoy, dude, that's to finishing off. It was an awesome week.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: That's awesome. Now, you've been out to Texas before, right?
[00:04:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I've been down to Texas quite a bit. We've been down there a few times this year, actually. But God, I love Texas, man. I always say it too when I'm down, like, dude, you know what I love about Texas is every bit of it, dude.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: Everything I love, I've I've toured through a lot of different places in Texas, and Texas crowds are different, but I think it suits what you're doing with the traditional style, the traditional take on country music and the storytelling. They really appreciate that because it's different from the Southeast.
You go to a show in Georgia and it's like a rock show where everybody but you go to those dance halls and they hop out and they dance when they like the song, and then they hop off the floor. You start the next song and then they hop back out there and dance again.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah, man, it's cool, too. And even just seeing like, the club scene change on the East Coast, but you're right, dude. I mean, East Coast club shows now are like rock shows, and you go to Texas, man, and they all come out and it's legit, dude. I mean, they come out to listen to your songs. And it's also fun for me because, man, when you're playing, especially when someone like Ashley or Laney or whoever's cool enough to let you open the show or be a part being on a know, you go out in front of their fans and you're like, man, it's either going to go one or two ways. They're they're either gonna love what I do or if they don't like what there's nothing. There would be no worse place to be than on stage in front of a bunch of Texans who are not digging what you're playing. Man, I've seen that mean everything went over great. And Texas has been so good to me, man, they really have. And all the artists down there, too. I mean, I have so many friends in Texas. I just love going to Texas and playing my music.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: That's awesome, bro. Let's talk about these cigars for a SEC.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Sure, let's do it.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: We're smoking these four kicks. The bigger four kicks, we usually smoke the smaller four kicks maduros from crowned heads. And you're a big cigar guy. And I found that out pretty recently and I'm kind of bummed I found that out recently because I've been a big cigar guy. I was smoking cigars with my dad before I was drinking beers with my dad. That's just the culture of my family dynamic. And Nikki T's. Huge cigar guy. And yourself.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Well, you know what's funny is talking about Crownheads, man, a good buddy of mine, Jeff Pratt and John Goolsby. Jeff's out in Arkansas now, but man, they turned me on to Crownheads probably, I don't know, a few years ago or something. And right out of the pandemic time some are in there. And man, I found that wabash cannonball and I was like, what a cool cigar. And I just love the cigar. So I went and bought a couple of boxes of that thanks to them tipping me off. And I just love crown heads. Dude. They're awesome. This is a great cigar.
[00:06:25] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, it's a great size. It's premium cigars, crown heads. And it's just fun to be able to sit out here in the middle of the day on a Wednesday. Like middle of the week, middle of the day. It's October. The weather's cooled off a little bit.
[00:06:40] Speaker B: Starting to edge off.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is my favorite time of year, dude, and you got spoiled growing up in the fall.
[00:06:46] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Dude driving through. I love I 81. Just such a pretty drive. That's my gateway to get back home up to the northeast. And I have family in east Tennessee and grew up obviously a big hokies fan, which back in the heyday of that. But where in Virginia did you grow up?
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Yeah, so I was raised up in the southwestern part of the state, Virginia.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: So not far from Blacksburg.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Like an hour and 15 minutes from Blacksburg, hour and a half. And my whole family are hokeys. So both my parents went to Tech and I'm one of five kids and four out of my four sisters. I got four sisters, and three of them went to Tech, and one of them went to the University of Virginia. Oh, wow.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: There's always a wahoo in every family dynamic.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Got to disrupt the whole thing.
So, yeah, she went to UVA, but I'm a hokey, man. I love it, dude. Go hokeys. And she was actually wearing, like, a Beamer ball T shirt when she got, like, her acceptance letter.
UVA.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah, that was actually my first. I've been to, I think, three or four Virginia Tech games in my life. And the first one I went to was the Commonwealth Cup in 2006. Oh, yeah, 2006. That was back when they had, like, Chris Ellis on defense. That was right at the beginning of the tyrod Taylor.
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. Tyrod, baby.
[00:08:01] Speaker A: Sean Glennon. And you had, like, Eddie Royal. You had Cam chancellor those tech teams. David Wilson. This, I think, is when I got this jersey. The number was this was Ryan Williams number.
[00:08:14] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, we had so many good fucking back, man. Ryan Golly. What?
[00:08:17] Speaker A: A and the hank. Yeah. And the hard part about being I mean, it's a lot harder to be a Tech fan right now.
It has been tough. The last ten years have been a little rough for us, but even then, it was like we had the longest active streak of ten win seasons. We were right up there with Texas and all the other big teams of that era, but we just never could get the BCS Bowl. I know that one Orange Bowl that they won, I think it was either against Cincinnati or Kansas was great, but they'd win the ACC championship and they wouldn't qualify for the national title. But they get to these BCS games.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: And we'll never forget that. National championship.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: No.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Oh, man. What was that? 99?
[00:08:55] Speaker A: 99 with Mike Vick? And that was back in the Big East days, dude. So you follow college football pretty closely.
[00:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty close, man. I'm loyal to Virginia Tech, even though it's definitely been not easy. Like you said, man, for the past few years, I always get really excited. Watch the first game, we lose the second game, I'm like, Dang, you know? But I'm still hanging in there, dude. I support the Hocus.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Isn't it crazy now, seeing all this conference expansion shit?
[00:09:18] Speaker B: Oh, it's nuts. It's nuts.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: You're about to have USC have to go to State College or actually go further. Go to New Brunswick, New Jersey, to play Rutgers in a conference game. Like, what the fuck?
[00:09:30] Speaker B: I know, dude. I like and then the rest of the world is SEC.
[00:09:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I miss the days of those regional rivalries.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Oh, I do, too.
[00:09:38] Speaker A: We still get them in the ACC. Like, the ACC, you still have it where it's still very much, very much like that.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: But Tech was even like big s I mean, Big East, man. Like, I remember those West Virginia Virginia Tech games.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: Oh, the black diamond trophy.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: Oh, dude.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: And you remember the famous last time that they did that rivalry until they redid it recently. Marcus Vick going into the end zone at Morgantown, flipping off the crowd.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: Yep. Classy.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Marcus Vick was a damn nightmare, dude.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: But he's kind of a nightmare. But he was so talented. Everybody said, too. They were like, dude, they're like, he's probably more talented than know. And they used to stand at half court in the basketball gym, war Memorial or somewhere, and they would shoot half court shots one handed, like right handed and then left handed, then right handed, then left handed and make them and it's nuts, dude. Even when I was in Virginia Tech, dude, I used to play, like, pickup basketball with the football team oh, really? During the offseason, and it was, like, insane, dude.
It was a lot of fun, though. It was really fun.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I have two cousins that are so I got into being a Tech fan. I didn't go there. My uncle paid for my application to go there, but I want to do communications and all that. It just made more sense to go to college in Jersey, sure.
But my two cousins that go there, they love it.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Blacksburg is amazing.
[00:10:51] Speaker A: Yeah, blacksburg is great. And there's something about going to Lane Stadium.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: Oh, dude.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: I mean, there's no better game day atmosphere. I saw Barstool recently, ranked it as, like, one of the best tailgate cultures.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: Oh, man, it's incredible. And I talked to that, too, man. Like, buddies of mine from all over, and anybody who's ever been to Blacksburg in Lane Stadium for any kind of football game, they always say the same thing. They're like, man, Tech fans are so loyal, but also ready to have a good time. And so welcoming, too.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Respectful.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Respectful. Like trash talk, but also, like, dude, here's a know, like, hang out with us. We're glad to have you.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Here's a beer. Here's a turkey leg.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Yeah, man, a turkey leg.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: The turkey legs that are bigger than a kid's head.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Dang right.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: What's it like being a dad?
[00:11:29] Speaker B: It's the best thing I've ever done. It's the coolest thing I've ever done. Life changing. And you talk to parents all the time, and they're like, man, it changes you. It changes you completely. And you're like, okay. And then it all goes down, and you're like, okay, I get it. I see it's a miracle. Coolest thing ever. She everly kate man she's everly kate Jones. She's nine months old now.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: Just, like, crawling around on a mission like crazy.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: I've kind of come into the role of, like, I'm in a great, healthy relationship, and my girlfriend Aaron has a little daughter, Charlote, little five year old. And it's like just being around a kid just changes you.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: It changes you. Dude, in the best way ever. Yeah, it really does and Everly's. Like we call her Evie, but man, her personality is like starting to show up.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: Oh, that's great.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: And she's like you can see her giving little know expressions and stuff and it's just really fun. It's really fun, man. I'm having a good time. Yeah. Country music, raising babies.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: Yeah. And how old are you?
[00:12:30] Speaker B: I just turned 32.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: Yes. So you're living a great life.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: That's perfect.
I think about my twenty s and stuff too, and I was honky tonking and running and doing and stuff and it's like man, about from 28 to where I am right now is just really good years, man.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah, 28 is where I'm at right now and I feel like I'm starting to figure it out with the raise rowdy stuff.
Still going on the road to do festivals. Nikki and I go to a lot of festivals and still get out to a lot of shows, but having that dynamic that I'm in now of finding a good relationship, being around a little one and getting my shit together.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah, man, you kind of get to this really comfortable spot of you're grounded, but you're healthy, you feel good, you're going and doing and it just feels like you're kind of catching your stride. And I think most people really start catching their stride about 30, about 28, 30.
And it's awesome, man. I'm having the time of my life right now.
[00:13:26] Speaker A: That's good, man. So the music.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: The music, dude.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: You've been in the studio working on stuff. Put out a badass cover of one of my favorite country songs of all time.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: Thanks, man. Thanks.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: Johnson City, Tennessee.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: Dang right. I love modern day Bonnie and Clyde Bro.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: The Travis trick cover. And the one song that you do have out Sedona. Yeah, great fucking song.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: Thanks, man.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: That's one that you because we're obviously at a lot of writers rounds, we put them on and host them. We pop by the Listening Room for rounds and I remember, I think it was during Tinpan South did you play over at Listening Room? So we went over and saw you there and it's like there's certain people, you see them at rounds and the room just kind of gets quiet and gets enthralled with the story that the writer, the artist is telling up there. And you're one of those people.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Oh, man. It's all about the yeah. Tell a story, country music. That's what it's all about.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And you've been in town now for a little while, but being able to get in the studio and having a team with you now, that's in the Will Jones business, for sure. Put out music. What's that all been like?
[00:14:25] Speaker B: Oh man, it's been amazing. And you know, it's so funny because I didn't move to town until 2019, so I really put off moving to Nashville, man, for a hot minute. And I was like, I don't need to move to Nashville yet. I was playing a lot of club shows, and I was staying busy doing small town shows and amphitheaters and stuff like that. Man, I just got really sick of singing other people's songs, and the songs I was singing that were mine, I was like, they're not where they need to be. So, man, you got to go where the best songwriters are, and that's Nashville. So I moved in 2019 just in time for the Pandemic to hit less than a year later.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I was fall of 2018, it was right around that same time.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And it was kind of cool in the sense of, like, not cool at all. It was the worst thing that's ever.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: Happened in the world.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: But it worked out in a sense because I had kind of backed off my schedule, and I had shows for the rest of the year booked, but I was, like, putting in time to want to be in Nashville, working in Nashville. And so about the time that happened, I was kind of in a position of wanting to be here anyway. Of course, that gave me no choice, but it worked out good. Man, I wrote a lot of great songs during COVID and I think a lot of people kind of read invented themselves during COVID in a lot of ways. And for me, it was kind of that opportunity of like, okay, who am I as a country artist? What is my sound and what am I doing here?
And it gave me some time to get my head around that and just maximize every day here. So I signed a publishing deal with Universal. I've been with them a couple of years, so I've been in the industry for I call it two years, really, just like on Music Row, working every day and stuff like that. But, man, we've made a lot of progress fast, and I got some really awesome people working with me, and we're over at WME. They're doing great work on the agency side of things.
[00:16:05] Speaker A: How wild is it to think back to you having to hustle and book your own shows and have those Friday night bar gigs those Thursday night like getting gigs wherever you can, like being hungry back in your hometown. Back in that Virginia North Carolina north Carolina scene to now you have somebody booking shows for you, advocating for you, doing all that bro.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: It's got to be cool.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: Look at it's.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: Incredible. And I think it's so awesome. And this goes back to talking about why it's so important to go out there and hustle and grind yourself for a while is because, man, when you get in that position where you have just really competent people who believe in you working on your behalf, you just appreciate it so much more, and you know how to maximize it more, too. You just don't take it for granted.
Yeah, it's incredible, man. I mean, I get a call, and it's like, boom, we got this offer. We're doing this, or whatever.
And it's really cool, man. It allows me to be more creative and have some more time to do stuff I need to do as an artist, which is awesome.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, it's big for a long time, and you still are, in a sense. You're one of those staples to where people want to go and see you play, like at the local. Yeah, man, the local Nashville scoreboard, all those different gigs where it's just that's kind of a way that someone can build buzz in town. I feel for sure. You definitely took that path of doing those regular gigs like you were doing in Virginia, but just doing them here.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: In town in Nashville and what was so cool know? Everything happens for a reason, man. But when I got out here and kind of as the COVID stuff was tapering off, man, the local just kind of became like a really comfortable spot for me to hang out. It's where I met so many people and made so many friends, and so it only made sense when we started the full band shows there on Monday nights, which we still do every Monday night. It's the only in town gig that I do now.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: I love that you do that still.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Oh, it's awesome, dude. Because for me, it's, like, selfish in the sense of that's the night that we get to hang out, man, drink a little tequila and play Keith Whitley and Haggard and whalen and just get the honky tonking out of our systems, man, like, tellies pedal steel, guitars, fiddles, and it's a great dude. It's a badass band, too, so the music's really good, and it's fun, man. So I still do that. And I love the local, man. I love it. And of course, I spent a lot of time at Nashville Palace and scoreboard a ton of time down there. I never really did the Broadway thing.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: You didn't have to.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Luckily, I kind of got in a position where I didn't have to, and I found some venues where I could play the stuff I wanted to play that kind of represented who I am as an artist.
Thankful for those places, but yeah, dude. It's awesome, man.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Did you have a little bit of a fear moving to town about, hey, I'm singing more of this 90s traditional style stuff, and I'm not Morgan Wallen, I'm not Florida Georgia line. I'm not for sure that I want to sing this style of stuff, and that style of stuff has really started to come to the forefront. There's a huge market for traditional stuff that there wasn't four years ago when you moved here. When I moved here.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah. It seems like the demand for it's definitely increased. A, but, you know, it's funny because I was playing club shows and I saw a piece know, the influence that florida georgia line and all those guys had on country music. And there was no denying it. I mean, it was massive.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: It was so huge. And so when I was playing club shows, I was kind of the guy that went in there.
I always say it like this, even if I never really covered any of their stuff, but it was just because really it wasn't true to me. If I sang whiskey glasses, you wouldn't believe it. You know what I mean? It wouldn't sound like what I'm supposed to be singing because it's not really who I am, but it's great stuff. But I was already kind of like calloused to being the OD man out on that stuff. So when I got town, I was a little nervous about it, but not really.
And it's probably because I moved. I was 27 when I moved, so I was kind of already pretty comfortable in my own skin, man, with what I was doing music wise.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And you found guys that also were in the same boat that were doing their thing in their hometown. Some of them moved a little bit younger and talking about, like, the guys in old sam banks, talking about corey hunt, talking about that crew.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: In fact, I met Sam. And me and sam by the way, sam banks, who's just an incredible talent.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Oh, one of the best.
[00:20:29] Speaker B: Insane. But me and sam, we co host that monday night show together.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: Oh, awesome.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: So it's me and sam every monday night, but I met Sam, actually, at our buddy jeff's house, and him and john Goulsby were living together over in east nashville. And I met sam over there, who's the guy that introduced me to crownheads.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah, but I met sam over there, and sam was like, who's this know? And I was like, who's this guy, dude? And then we actually kicked off two dozen roses. We were jamming in the living room, and we kicked off two dozen roses, and we both played the intro look, and one of us played the harmony line to the intro look, and the other one played the intro look at the same time. And it was like, dude, do you want to be best friends and go play karate in the garage? Or whatever. It's like immediately we were like, yeah, dude. And so I met those guys. And of course that was reassuring, dude. Like, you're finding some cats who are really into, like, haggard and country music and, man, there's so many now. But it was a blessing to meet those guys, for sure.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And even on the female side, there's.
[00:21:27] Speaker B: May estes SJ McDonald's. What a rock star. Yeah, dude. And me and may, it's funny, we spent like the last, like, three weeks.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: Said that because I was very thankful I was able to have you both, all three of you, on our anniversary show at LIVEO.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: I appreciate you having us.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: That was a big night for us, and we wanted to fill it with guys and girls that we believe in that have been in the family that were playing rounds with us during COVID that have kind of been there since the get go for us. But, yeah, I remember you and May walked in, and she's like, I've spent so much time with old Will Jones lately.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: We have been hanging, bro. We went to Denmark together. We were on a plane together for like, 24 hours total. Then we got back and I was like, all right, well, I'll see you in Texas. She was on the Laney show down there, which was actually really cool. I actually ended up introducing her at the Laney show, which was cool. The radio guy or whoever was doing the introduction, like, disappeared. And so they were like, somebody's got to bring May on. She's doing this huge killed it. Full band set, as May always does, man. Just a freaking rock star. And I was like and my wife had flown down for the show, and she was like, we'll do it all right, dude. So I just ran back out on stage and hyped them up and brought May on. And that was really fun for me. Yeah, but, dude yeah. She's so good, man. SJ is also just incredible.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: And another Virginia.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah, another Virginia native.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: Yeah. What? This is something, too. Virginia has gotten a lot more hype and a lot more eyes on it here recently.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: You know, it's funny because in know and it still know predominantly, like Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama and stuff, like, you know, Virginia. There really wasn't that many of us from Virginia or even North Carolina. Not a ton. Which I was raised like, a mile from the state line in North Carolina.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Oh, wow. So you're right out there.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I was like 45 minutes north of Winston Salem and like 15 minutes above a little town called Mount Airy, North Carolina. So I was in a community called Cana, Virginia, but it was like a mile from the state line, so I was really North Carolina oriented a lot, and that's where I went and did a lot of shows and stuff.
But, man, we were all raised playing bluegrass music, and that's what I did my whole life.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: I can see that when you're on the guitar, bro, I feel like you've got the voice, you've got the song, but the guitar picking, bro, you are a guitar picking son of a gun.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: I appreciate it.
That's where I got started, dude. I was just obsessed with guitar when I was young. And it was bluegrass. It was bluegrass music.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: Yeah. They do such a good job of bringing kids along in that world. It is such like a family.
It is literally a family tradition.
[00:23:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And if you think about it, too, like, roots music wise, i. Mean, that's culturally how it's always been, right? It's always, like, family oriented, a cultural upbringing. And that's how bluegrass was for me. My dad got me started and taught me how to play. Who's. Incredible, man. It was all bluegrass. And so now you're seeing this, which I am so happy about. You're seeing this huge uptick in demand for mountain music, like Charles Wesley Goblin. My dude is killing. You know, even in a lot of, like, the Zach Bryan stuff and everything else, I mean, there's like a lot of that what I would consider to be, like mountain Celtic folk influence in.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: And it's like, you know, it's awesome.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And you've got the Oliver Anthony stuff.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: And it's like, that's just a guy. Like, growing up in the mountains. You have to know the Virginia guy. You have to know guys that are like that for sure.
[00:24:53] Speaker B: He went to high school with.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: Old like, Georgia has been able to say what it wants. The folks from Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Mississippi have been able to do that for a long time, but now it's like the voices are being heard from the guys and girls that grew up in Appalachia, that grew up around coal mining culture, around factory culture.
It's a beautiful place to grow up, but there are some dark oh, it's.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah, incredibly dark sides, but really beautiful. I mean, I miss it every day, especially, like you said, this time of year, man. Oh, dude. Because we get all seasons really evenly back home. And so this time of year, man, it's, like, already cooling down. It's deer season here. My budies are going deer hunting, and it's like 90 degrees. I'm like, god, I just don't think.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: I can do it, man.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: I just don't think I can do it.
There isn't a more beautiful place to grow up in the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains there in Virginia. But yeah, dude, Oliver's killing it, man.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: It's wild.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: Just to see talk about overnight. Bam.
Whoa.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: And what I love is that the audio of that song is just the video.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just the video.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: It's like you hear the woods in the background.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: Dude, it's because, man, people want that. People want real I don't blame them. I do too. People want to be like, I hear that guy sing, and I know him, and that's, like, somebody that if he came over to my house for supper at, like, I wouldn't be weird at, like, I know that guy. And I think that's what Oliver Anthony's done. Anything that feels authentic and real and raw and not perfect, people are like they are craving it, man. I am too. It's awesome.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And I feel like people are finding that in your music, even though, I mean, you're working with some incredible who are you working with, producer wise?
[00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah. So Bart Butler produced all this stuff.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: That is a huge deal to be working with a guy like Bart Butler 100%.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah, he produced all the John Party stuff, and he's just had a great career. Started out I mean, he's done song plugging. He's been in publishing. He's done every angle of it. But, yeah, he produced this stuff that we're know. And what's cool about working with Bart is when we get in the studio, I've got full range of know, and so I'm in the booth with the guys going down, and, man, the band we had was just insane.
But being in there with those guys, going down on guitar, building guitar parts with players like Rob Mcnelli and stuff like that is just they don't get any more fun than that. So I think a lot of that shines through on these. At least I hope it does on these tracks.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: No, I think it definitely does with Sedona. And I can't wait to hear the.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Rest of oh, dude, we got another one coming.
[00:27:22] Speaker A: When's it coming?
[00:27:23] Speaker B: The 13th, man.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: Oh, fuck.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: Like, not this Friday, but next Friday.
[00:27:27] Speaker A: Okay, so that'll actually be when this episode comes out.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Dude, that's awesome.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: What's the song?
[00:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a song called Whiskey Sippy.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: Whiskey Sippy?
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah, man, and it's swampy and like Delta River Pirates, like mean as shit. Whiskey sippy. Dude, it's cool.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: I've definitely heard you play this out.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: It's a cool song. I love it. I wrote it with Davis Corley and Lee star, who I wrote Sedona with.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: And, man, we always just when we get in a room together, we always just pick up a reso guitar or something, and we end up in some kind of weird I don't know where this is going at all, but it feels good. Let's see where this happens, what happens here. And that's what happened with Whiskey Sippy, dude. And I love it, man. So we're dropping that song October 13. And that's the first of many. We got a bunch more coming after that, too. So we're just kind of slowly just dropping some breadcrumbs out there, and then it's going to be full force, baby.
[00:28:16] Speaker A: Thank you for putting music out, because you're one of those guys. During COVID I was sending back and forth and even, I guess, early post COVID, where I had friends back home or just friends around town, where the only way you were able to show a new artist to somebody because they didn't have music out yet was through the shit you were putting up on Instagram or like a story of you and the guys playing at the local or playing at scoreboards. So to have music out now, check out my boy Will Joe.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. I think it's a time, man. And I think that's the way it is now, especially when I'm going out playing shows, man, you step on stage and then you step off stage and you've got 150 or 200 new followers on your social media pages. And stuff like that. It's like, man, I owe those people my time. They're cool enough to support my music. They deserve a piece of me, not just on stage. It's like, I want to give it to them on social media, and I want to give them music, which is the main thing.
We're releasing that track the 13 October, and then we got another one coming right after that. And then first of the year, we're picking it up and knocking them down, dude.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Hell yeah. I'm guessing touring is coming through as well.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: Yeah, man. We got a bunch of cool shows lined up. We're pretty much full for the rest of the year. I think it's so crazy. And I was laughing the other day. I was like, dude, I wouldn't have booked me.
But just through word of mouth and our live shows, it's turned out great, man. And we've just been so blessed to have artists support like, you know, and Lady Wilson and people like that, letting us come out and do some shows with them.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: That's the family. And that speaks to your character and your ability to just be you and hang. And Ashley McBride's story starts at the local she spent years being that was one of her weekly gigs, was playing music, playing freak show, playing the different.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: She'S got the bluegrass side to her, too. Yeah, she does, man. There's no cooler chick, dude. And more authentic, man.
[00:30:12] Speaker A: And her band is Chris and those guys.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Oh, man. Yeah, another one. I grew up playing bluegrass with Chris.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Oh, really?
[00:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I didn't know he was like I.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: Didn'T know he came from a bluegrass back.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, dude. A bluegrass mandolin player, guitar player and everything. And just a monster.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: I had no idea. Bluegrass.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: That's fucking cool, dude. Monster player, man. Songwriter, singer, all of the above. Her whole band, dude. If anybody that listens to this has not went to an Ashley McBride show ever yet, go, it's insane. Like, her band, her show, every bit of it is like just awesome, dude.
[00:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: And it kind of walks a similar line that I'm aiming at as far as, like, how do you interject this authentic know, bluegrass edge to what kind of a rock and roll swampy and country damn music setting in a know? And I mean, they do that. Really?
Yeah. So people like that supporting. We're doing we're doing more dates with Ashley at the end of the year. I know. We're doing charleston, West Virginia. Charlote, North Carolina, which is going to be a blast. Both those shows are going to be so sick.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: You've had to have seen some shows and played smaller gigs up in those cities.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, for sure, man. In fact, I remember going up through West Virginia, man, playing some music and stuff at that time. I know one time I stopped in at a brewery in Princeton, and Charles Wesley Godwin was playing I found a picture the other day of uh, and he was playing in there, man, and he was like grinding dude. I mean really working his that dude deserves everything that he is getting and know. And so I popped in to see him and have a beer and then cruising on up through West Virginia playing shows in Virginia, North Carolina, and outside of Charlote and Winston Salem and everywhere. So it's going to be really fun. Going back around those with Ashley hitting these. We're doing Baltimore, Maryland last night and we're in Vegas the week before that.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: Have you ever been out to Vegas?
[00:32:07] Speaker B: Yeah, man. So I've been out there the last two years.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: Oh, NFR stuff.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: Yep. National Finals rodeo.
But year before last was the first time I'd been. That's a crazy town.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: I've never been. I want to do a race. Nicky's been.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: What are you doing?
[00:32:20] Speaker A: Nicky comes from a line of people that love his family. They enjoy slots and they enjoy card games. So Nikki's taken family vacations as a kid and he's got a few years on both you and I. He's in his 40s, so he's taken trip bachelor trips out there and done all that. I've never been to Vegas. My girlfriend loves it out there.
[00:32:39] Speaker B: It's awesome. I want to get out there like three days.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: Three days.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: That's what I'm calling it. If anybody listens, disagrees, or tells me, whatever. What's your opinion? My vote? Three days in Vegas is plenty because dude, it never sleeps, man. It never stops. And you're like in there and you're like, oh man, I'm playing blackjack or whatever, three card poker. And then it's like four in the know. And you're like, man, I'm like dizzy because I've been staring at cards for 2 hours and now I'm going to get a steak and it's six in the morning. There's people like drinking liquor over at the bar and you're like, what's going on? Dude? It's Vegas, you know? But it's also just really cool town.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: Is that a show with Ashley out there?
[00:33:14] Speaker B: No. So we're actually doing that's like shows for me.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: Oh fuck yeah.
[00:33:17] Speaker B: Doing for National Finals rodeo. And we'll be doing a few nights in Thomas and Mac Center at the Cowboy Corral stage they call it, which is inside of Thomas and Mack. We're doing three nights I think there.
And we'll play right before the rodeo kicks off. And then we'll actually, I think, come back and do a set after the rodeo is over. So that's a killer that's a killer show. And then we're doing cowboy revival and some other stuff out there with Rocky Mountain Elk and it's going to be sick, dude.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Not a bad way to close. That's the end of this year, right?
[00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the last two weeks of the year is like Vegas and then on the road with Ashley. Not a bad and then sinara until January.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: Yeah, not a bad way to close out what has been a very productive 2023 for you.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: It has, man. This year has been really good to me, man.
We're not letting the grass grow under our feet. By no means.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: So when you're not doing music, I know you spend a lot of time with your girls.
What are you doing?
[00:34:15] Speaker B: What am I into?
[00:34:16] Speaker A: Yeah. What are you into and shit, bro.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: So I'm into so many things that I don't have time to do.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: I'm guessing hunting.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: Love to hunt. Got into turkey hunting a few years ago, a couple of years ago, and that's kind of, like, eaten me up. You're talking about muscadine bloodline boys.
Same. Love it. Dude, I love turkey hunting just because I'm learning so much, and still I feel like that's one of those. Just figure it out over the course of appreciate this.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: Last night we went and watched the boys over at Scoreboard. Nikki and I went we had to go for the first Tuesday night at Scoreboard post release. And I went up there and was a little bit of a wise ass, but he did it. I paid 20, put $20 in the tiptoe. I looked at Andy and I was like, give me a good turkey. Give me a turkey call.
And then I had him play 1ft in the Door that he wrote with Casey. Yeah, great song.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: What a great doesn't play a whole.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: Lot anymore, but he explained to the whole crowd, he's like, this is the owl hoot that you do for this. This is my gobble.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: And then he gobbled he can do it, man.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: Oh, he can. I had him on, like, episode three or four, one of the first episodes I ever did of this podcast years ago. And we had him do it on the podcast. We had him gobble and shit. It was fucking wild. But so you like turkey hunting?
[00:35:25] Speaker B: Love turkey hunting. Dude, I'm really big into fly fishing. Okay, so random. But dude, I got into fly fishing like ten years ago.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: Can you do that out here? Is that something more like can west.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: Mostly out west or man, there's incredible trout streams on the East Coast. Like northwest north Carolina is covered in them. East Tennessee, you got South Holston and Wataga River out there that is really world class trout fishing.
But dude, I got into that like ten years ago, and it's kind of like everybody makes this assumption. It's like bow hunting, kind of, but fishing, it's like really raw and super difficult, and there's all kinds of science that goes into it. You're like, time flies and all this stuff, but there's been like a huge trend, kind of like craft breweries and stuff kind of blew up. Like the fly fishing world. It kind of happened with that with the fly fishing world, too, about the time I got in it. So I got eat up with fly fishing. You can do it out here on Cany Fork and Cumberland. And I got budies that chase striper and stuff on fly rods, which is gnarly, of course, at the coast. Yeah, they're catching, like giant stripers on fly rods. It's nuts. But, man, fly fishing. I love to hunt. I love anything outdoors, dude, which I don't get enough time to get outdoors.
[00:36:36] Speaker A: Have you tied it into touring at all when you've been out west? Have you been able to do that yet? Because I know some guys will do that.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Some, yeah, a lot of people play golf and stuff, and I like to play golf some. But, man, I'm such an outdoors junkie that if I'm if I got spare time and I can go get in a river somewhere or get in the woods or something, I'm all for that. But that's definitely a plan, like moving into next year. I already carry, like a fly rod with me everywhere I go. Anyway, so if we are ever getting out to Colorado or anywhere like that, dude, I'm for sure tossing some fly.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: You said you were over at Universal. You know John Pierce? Oh, dude, I was going to say John is a so I actually wrote with Pierce yesterday. Oh, really?
[00:37:13] Speaker B: Yeah, man.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: So I love that guy.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I do too, man. What a salt of the earth. Hilarious, dude. We've got some really funny stories. Definitely.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: And he's a man that's been through it all that's a guy learned from that, came to town, did the artist thing for a minute, just had some been done, the record deal thing, not on the record deal thing, and just been a hit maker of a songwriter and just a stand up dude.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: He is, man. He's just fun to be around. That dude just makes me laugh. Yes, he does.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I got to know John. When I was out with Trey on the Kid Rock tour, we rented out a bus, and we brought out some writers, and it was John Pierce, Adam Craig, and Matt McVaney.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. McVeigh, baby.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Maddie McVeigh. So it was the three of them myself, Trey, and our bus driver, Bobby.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Lee, who was just I like, Bobby Lee already, man.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: Bobby Lee is the guy that you drive up through the northeast and you can pull over to fuel up, and you see that there's a piece of paper over the license plate. And I'm like, bobby Lee, what are you doing? He's like, we don't pay no tolls. I'm like, all right.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: Bobby Lee my dude.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: Dude, he's like, right there's, the right way, the wrong way, the Bobby Lee way. You don't start no shit, there won't be no shit.
[00:38:21] Speaker B: I like, it kind of got me fired up right there, dude.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Bro, just listening to that. Yeah, dude.
There was like pieces of spare wood, like outside one of the venues. It was up in Massachusetts, and he saw the wood there and then we went inside, and we're chilling out, whatever. And I come back out, and Bobby Lee's got the wood, and he's building a shelving unit in one of the bays of the bus for all of his shit. He took the wood.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: Don't mind me.
[00:38:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he has a little toolkit out. He's out there sawing wood, just doing.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: Some carpeting work real quick.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Yes. That's how I got to know John was on that.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: That's who you want driving your bus.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: I got to know john Pierce and Adam Craig and Matt McVaney on a run of kid rock shows with Bobby.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: Lee driving that'sick what a great group of people, dude.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: What a cool drinking. They were drinking box wine. Big box. Surprised me, box wine guys, because Trey was like, hey, go out and go out and get some tequila and some fireball and some this and that. They didn't really touch any of that stuff. They just drank. They showed up with their own box wine, and we're good. They were just slapping the bag. When you're out in the road as a writer, you're just rewriting during the day, and then when the show's on, you're just chilling.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: We went out and did a few nights with Randall King.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: Oh, bro, those are some good boys out there.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: Oh, man, they are. And what was so cool about it was being an artist but also being a songwriter. I was like, Dude, we got done writing, and I was like, I don't have to go to work tonight. You know what I mean? I can just hang out and watch the show and just enjoy the hang. And so it's really fun, man, when you do that. I love it.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And Randall's, his shows.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: Oh, dude. Awesome. Yeah. Incredible, dude.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: How'd you get to know him? Was that through the palace and stuff?
[00:39:58] Speaker B: Man, I'm trying to think about how I got to know Randall. I think I got to know Randall through some of his team, like Scott Gunner and some of those guys, and just mutual friends, I think, is how that happened. But, dude just man, a great guy, great band, great music. I know he just cut some new stuff too.
I think he might have cut one of one that I wrote there.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: Oh, shit.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: That's pretty cool.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: Yeah, man. We'll see, you'll know, if it's on there or not.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: Do you have a hard time being a writer and being an artist when you're in the room as an artist or for sure as a writer? Because I feel like that's a balance.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: It's a weird balance.
And what's crazy about is a lot of times when you get in a room we were talking about this yesterday. It's like, man, they want to write for you. And you're like, Dude, I'm all about writing for me, but I also love writing stuff for other people, man. That's part of the fun of writing songs. So I try to balance it best I can, for sure.
[00:40:56] Speaker A: Yeah, because I've heard that from other people before.
It can be a bit of a challenge. You're doing good in that cigar, bro.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: I know, dude. I'm kind of like knocking her down, ain't I?
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm moving pretty good, too. I'm just talking a whole lot.
[00:41:08] Speaker B: It is a podcast.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll sit through. I'll smoke like two or three cigars back to back to back. If we go to Smokers Abbey or something, I'm a smoker.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: I quit.
What do you like to pair a cigar with? I guess it depends on the cigar.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: For me, it's coffee because I don't drink anymore. I'm seven years sober, so I can't.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: Coffee or like a good carbonated water. Like, topo chico or something.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Yeah, a good topoco. That delta nine seltzer. I had one of those inside. I was thinking about grabbing that to have that with this, because the nicotine and that together be like, whoa.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of people, too. For me, like a good respasado or like a good tequila is really good. A lot of people go straight to like, bourbon, whiskey, wine and stuff like that.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: But this time of year it's good. But in the summer, if you're having a stick, I can see why tequila would be the way to go.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: Tequila is good, man. It's light and crisp. Yeah, but yeah, man. So super into fly fishing, into hunting, into hiking outdoors in general, I'm just healthier outside. And of course, I grew up just living in the outdoors all the time. I had like, a really awesome childhood, a little huck thin childhood where it was awesome just running around barefooted and living in the woods.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: What's it like going to high school out there? Because I grew up in a suburb of New York City.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah?
I'm from Carroll County, so we had one high school for the whole county.
[00:42:25] Speaker A: One high school for the whole county?
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Yeah, and probably like a 20 minutes commute or something like that.
But it was awesome, man. Just a great, really great way of life. Laid back and easy, and I miss it all the time. Dude, it was awesome, dude. I mean, the same twelve guys played every sport. Because it's like, we got to have a football team. We got to have a basketball team.
[00:42:47] Speaker A: How many did you play?
[00:42:48] Speaker B: Man, basketball was really, like, my favorite. That was my bigger sport. But I like, ran track, did a bunch of stuff like that.
[00:42:57] Speaker A: There's an Amber Alert.
[00:42:58] Speaker B: There is? Man, I don't know. Oh, wait, it's on my phone now.
Stay tuned.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: Oh, it's just a test. It's not even an alert.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: What a waste of my time. What a waste of my time.
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Thanks, Apple. We appreciate that, Jesus.
[00:43:14] Speaker B: But yeah. So any of that stuff I'm super into, man. I love all kinds of stuff. My wife, I'm sure she gets really tired of it, but I just get fixated on that. Probably just super add when I get done writing. Or I've been on the road and I've been super being on all the time. And when I'm decompressing I'll fixate on things for like two or three weeks at a time.
[00:43:35] Speaker A: Like what?
[00:43:36] Speaker B: Like one time this is so stupid, dude. Like one time I got really into watching these videos of dudes replacing boot soles. It's weird.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: Like the bottom of the boot.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I mean, there's a name for that. Somebody knows the name, what that is. There's like hat stores, like a habitatchery. There's like dudes that do that, right? Like boot repair and stuff. And for some reason I got to watching these YouTube channels of dudes repairing these old soles and old red wings and stuff. Really random. I got really into EDC, like everyday carry like knives, like wallet and all that stuff. I don't know why this is the random stuff that I fall into.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: How many pairs of boots do you own?
[00:44:13] Speaker B: I got a bunch of boots.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: I was going to say they probably send you boots at this point.
[00:44:17] Speaker B: I haven't gotten any. I haven't gotten a boot deal, man. But I am working with some cool clothing companies and stuff right now. Yeah, man, Comms Ranch hooked me up with a bunch of stuff, which is cool. I love comms. Snaps clothing company. I was just on the phone with those guys. They're based out of Texas. Snaps Clothing. If you look on my Instagram you'll some of their shirts and stuff, but dude, they're doing some really killer stuff. But I haven't got any boot deals yet. I've been floating around.
[00:44:40] Speaker A: We need to get you a damn boot deal.
[00:44:42] Speaker B: I know, man, I'm wearing them. I wear them out.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: What are those?
[00:44:45] Speaker B: I don't even know what these are. These are like old python snake skins, man. I've been rocking the snake skin deal, man, for a long time, for probably ten or twelve years.
But I wear these and I wear ostrich and stuff like that. But these might even be like some old dan post or something.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: They're nice.
[00:45:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:01] Speaker A: Cool fucking boots.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: Thanks, man. Yeah, I got a bunch of boots, but we're in them every day. But dude yeah, so I just fixate on the most random stuff and I think it's just a way for me to decompress. Of course I watch a ton of mini documentary, like yeti style videos and I really love all that stuff. Of course, nowadays you're having to figure out how to film and take photos. You do all this stuff before you get a team around you yourself. So I love watching you kind of learn to respect when people are doing really high quality stuff.
[00:45:31] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. The documentary stuff is interesting too. I watch a lot of those Netflix documentaries. I watched one on the other day. Nikki just had it on. I'll come over here and Nikki and I, we're 420 friendly, so you never know what the hell is going to go on over here. And there's people recording downstairs and there's merch fulfillment out of there. It's just chaos over here. But we were watching the GameStop documentary of when GameStop the economic shit and that stuff I don't understand. But it was like interesting.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: Crazy, dude.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: Shit.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that stuff. Any kind of random.
[00:46:04] Speaker A: And then the sports documentaries for sure too. Like they just put one out about Florida State.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't watched it yet, which.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: I haven't watched yet either. It was on at the bar yesterday, like in the background. But obviously you're not listening and watching that when you're in the bar.
So as far as being in Nashville, what are some of your favorite spots that are here in town that you like going to? I know the local and the local.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: Scoreboard Nashville Palace is pretty much like the three what's?
[00:46:30] Speaker A: Like one that I wouldn't think of. That's like a spot where you be a weird spot to find the Will Jones.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: Oh, dude. And rare in the wild in the sighting. Man, I love Music city Bar down there. It's right across from Scoreboard.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: I love that you have three different bars right there. Just in general, right there. Dude, I just and all three bars are different.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: They are. I tell people all the time, I'm like, dude, if you're in Nashville, just go to Music Valley across from the Opry and you got three really badass bars right there.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: And they're all super.
[00:46:57] Speaker A: Oh, they're all very unique.
[00:46:58] Speaker B: Yeah. But man, Music City has got some of the best country music in town, dude.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: The old heads in there.
[00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Incredible, man, incredible. So that's kind of like my you know, sometimes I get over to East Nashville. When I first moved to town, I went over to like Tuesday some, you know, check that out.
But now as far as that goes, man, really? The local pretty much is like my hometown bar in Nashville.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: Have you been out to the is the one Hendersonville opened up yet?
[00:47:21] Speaker B: No, but I think they're getting pretty close to it. So that'll be awesome. Dude, everybody in Hendersonville can definitely use that too, I feel like.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be cool. It's cool what Jeff's done and all that. And just seeing different bars that are in town moving to adding second locations. Like live. Oak's about to open up. One on Second Avenue.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: Yeah, on Broadway. No joke.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Live Oak is going to be downtown with all that chaos.
[00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Wow.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: They're about to have midtown and downtown.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: Oh, wow.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: Which that'll be Tamaroo status. Yeah, right? Exactly. Dude, it's going to be crazy. And then what do you like to eat around here, you big barbecue guy? Being a Virginia Carolina guy?
[00:47:55] Speaker B: I do love North Carolina style barbecue. Of course. All my. Texas friends. They'll hold that one against me. But I don't mess with the brisket, man. When it comes to brisket and stuff, it's definitely all about some Texas barbecue there. But I love barbecue, dude. I love a good steak, man. I'm pretty predictable in that sense. But man, I also really just really love a good cheeseburger, bro. Yeah, I think I figured out it took me this long in my life to figure out that cheeseburger is my favorite food because it's like rave it more than anything else. And I try to eat healthy and work out and stuff, but dude, I freaking love a badass cheeseburger sound like.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: Randy from Trailer Park Boy. I've never seen that.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: I love that show, dude.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: I do, too.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: I know I might have to go back and revisit that one. Yeah, I love a good yeah, so we eat around, man. We cook a lot at the know. I got like a blackstone and grills and stuff.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: You ever make fried rice on that thing?
[00:48:40] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. Like the hibachi stuff. Like Smash burgers, man. My neighbor had some elk burger, so we did elk smashburgers one night with like horseradish mustard and stuff. It was so sick.
[00:48:50] Speaker A: I did have to come over. I did a food review.
As we pop around and do those, we have our new series. It's called. Tried that in a small town with Matt Farilla. We're on the road.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: I freaking love that, dude.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: So me and Nikki, when we're going to these festivals, we pull over to the little towns. But we were up in we went to the Eric Church concert up in Cincinnati. And we were just tailgating out there and the guys next to us just had elk burgers. So I did a review of an elk burger. It was fucking delicious.
[00:49:17] Speaker B: Good, right?
[00:49:17] Speaker A: It was great. Yeah. Elk, bison, all that.
[00:49:20] Speaker B: Like, get your joe rogan on, dude.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: Dude, absolutely. That guy eats a lot of he.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: Gets a lot of elk.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: All kinds of crazy shit. Yeah, all kind of different styles.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: He eats like ayahuasca and then elk burger.
[00:49:30] Speaker A: Yeah. That's a hell of a combination. I don't know if I could do all that. I think I'm a 420 and have Munchies help me. I don't know if I need all that stuff. I got friends that are into the mushroom shit. I've tried it, but it's not like something I have friends that eat mushrooms and then go out.
I can't imagine eating gnarly doing that and then going out to the bars.
[00:49:52] Speaker B: And you know what's funny? And actually, I was talking to somebody about this when we were in Texas. I was like, it's funny, man. When you get really busy, like, I don't even really drink anymore ever. And it's like you get too busy because you're so busy. It's like, I don't have time to do all that. I'll have a good time. Like when I'm playing shows, and stuff, man. I'll have a couple of drinks and all that stuff, but yeah, man, it's crazy, dude.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: Yeah. What's on the Will jones rider.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: Dude, nothing right now. I need to craft one up. I'm, like, too nice, man. I'm like, Dude, if you got some water and some tequila, if you got a little something to eat, I'm good, man.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: We got to put zins on there.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: Definitely zen, dude. I even ended up this is so funny, man. I was doing the Whiskey Jam parking lot party a few weeks ago, and somebody took a picture of me, and I was, like, going on stage, and I always have a Zen in, and I'm on stage, too, and I didn't realize really even how popular they are. But everybody's on the Zen train, man. It's a great solution. But I always got a Zen in, man, 24/7 when I'm singing and stuff, too.
I was, like, popping a Zen in this picture, and I was like, Dude, Zen's got to hook me up at some point in time, dude.
[00:50:57] Speaker A: Well, dude, my cheat code for the Zen stuff has been when you go to different festivals, like, what they have at Whiskey Jam is or like a booth or whatever. The booth, bro you're at get loaded up next year, you'll be at festivals and stuff.
Send the runner. Or if you want to go out and do it yourself, you can buy we're at festivals, it's like three, four days. You can get three cans a day for a dollar apiece.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: Oh, that's cheap.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very cheap. So we walk out. There twelve cans for $12.
[00:51:25] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:51:26] Speaker A: So I'll stock up during festival season. I just recently had you got, like.
[00:51:30] Speaker B: A stash around here, like a vault.
[00:51:31] Speaker A: Where I just had to start buying.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: Them by the roll.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: I just ran out, so I buy them by the roll down the street. Down the street at Map.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: Dude, there's nothing that makes you feel more, like, wealthy in that moment.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: And when you have that roll, when.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: You walk out of that gas station with that roll of Zen, you're like, I'm good, dude.
[00:51:47] Speaker A: Roll is in for $20 and like fifty cents or whatever it is.
It is cheaper than the pack and a half of sigs that I used.
[00:51:55] Speaker B: To dip or anything. And I've done it all. And it's like Zen for me has been the biggest thing.
[00:52:01] Speaker A: I don't even feel like they're in.
I can drink water when they're in.
[00:52:05] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: I could smoke a cigar when they're yeah, exactly. I was eating last night. We were at that.
[00:52:10] Speaker B: Have you ever swallowed one?
[00:52:12] Speaker A: Not yet.
[00:52:13] Speaker B: Dude, I did one time. I swallowed, like, two. I had, like, two in because I'm a nicotine fiend, I guess. Same, right?
[00:52:19] Speaker A: Same.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: And I swallowed two, and as soon as I did it, I dozed off and I swallowed them both, and I felt it get kind of warm as it was going down. And I was like, okay, what's going to happen here? Right.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: And then nothing happened. And I was like, oh, cool. All right.
[00:52:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I had josh Ross has told stories of when he's swallowed Zins sleeping.
Because you forget that it's in.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: I know. It's so comfortable.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: And you're a sixes guy as well.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sticking to the I'm a wintergreen guy.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: I have the coffee one sitting right here. But I'm usually because when you're at the festivals, you get them for a dollar apiece. You can just get all kinds of different flavors. So I've tried a bunch of different ones. I'm usually cool Mint because I was cool mint. I was a Copenhagen mint guy.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: What was your first can of dip?
[00:53:03] Speaker B: That was like grizzly wintergreen. Okay.
[00:53:05] Speaker A: The welfare bear.
[00:53:06] Speaker B: Yep, exactly. I think we used to sneak and put it in in weightlifting class and stuff. Which, looking back on that, is gnarly.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: That is not the place you want.
[00:53:13] Speaker B: What's your benchmax? I don't know. Let me try to put this dip in that I don't even want. And do it.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: Just be feeling it.
[00:53:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Stupid, dude.
[00:53:20] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Zen has been great for me. And it's like Zen's great, too, because I can have it. When you're smoking Sigs, you smell like sigs, like cigars. You smell like cigars. We're going to smell like cigars for a little bit.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: That's okay because it's a premium.
[00:53:34] Speaker A: It's a great fucking cigar. But with Zins, you could just pop it in. It's like you're not bothering anybody around you. No, I don't spit them. I see. You don't spit them either. No, just cut them.
[00:53:43] Speaker B: Yeah. No, it's just in there.
[00:53:44] Speaker A: It's just easy.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: Doing its thing, baby.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: Doing its thing.
So we got whiskey sippy.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: Yeah, we got Whiskey Sippy coming up October 13. So Friday after this or whenever this is aired, I guess this will be.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: The day that it comes out. Yeah.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: So today, when this comes out today, Whiskey Sippy is available on all platforms. I can't wait for everybody to hear it. And we're going to be releasing a whole bunch of content with it and stuff like that, even for a week or two or three weeks after that. So if you get on TikTok, Instagram, Will Jones official, you'll find me on all the places, man. Facebook, YouTube, all that places. And you'll see a bunch of stuff taking you to Whiskey Sippy. Modern day Bonnie and Clyde's out now, Sedona's out in the world. And we got a bunch more coming.
[00:54:24] Speaker A: Hell yeah.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: Just come out to the shows, man. I can't wait for everybody to hear it.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: I can't wait to get out to full band. And I know we can see it. We're spoiled here in Nashville that we can see it every Monday.
[00:54:36] Speaker B: And dude, it's fun, too, because our full band show is, man, it's like rock and roll, bluegrass, rock and roll, swampy country damn music, dude. And it's a riot, dude. It's a good time, man. It's fun.
[00:54:49] Speaker A: Hell yeah, dude. Well, I'm super stoked for you. It's been cool watching you. Watching you, getting the eyes on you that you deserve. And you've been grinding here in town him for a while and just seeing you. You're still the same Will Jones that I met when you moved here in 2019.
[00:55:04] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Ain't going nowhere.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: 2020. So it's fucking awesome, man. And super stoked for the music to be coming out. Excited that you're working with Bart. You got the damn booking deal. It's all coming into place. And you get to be a dad and a husband while you do all that.
[00:55:17] Speaker B: Exactly, man. Yeah. Life's really good right now, man.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: That's exactly how I feel, dude. And life is good. Sitting out here outside.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: It ain't bad, is it?
[00:55:25] Speaker A: As we have planes. We had the alert go off there. We've had that sirens go off. It's funny. We'll hear Nikki and I'll be out here at night and you'll just hear the fire station right there and you'll hear what the call is over the speaker, over the intercom, man. But I appreciate you coming on here, dude.
[00:55:40] Speaker B: I appreciate you having me, man, hanging.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: Out, being our test for doing this first outdoor part. I think we're going to do more of these.
[00:55:45] Speaker B: I think you should. Yeah, dude.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: All got plenty.
[00:55:49] Speaker B: We got a whole box of cigars. We got everything.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: We got cigars and we got sixers of Zen. So we are good to go. But y'all be sure to check out our boy Will Jones. Whiskey sippy is out now. Look him up on all the Socials. If you're here in Nashville, get out to a Monday night show. Watch Will and the boys play over at the local and out on the road, look up you got a website?
[00:56:09] Speaker B: Yeah, so I think it's all linked through my Instagram and stuff, too. Like directly to shows and all the ticket links. Yeah. Boy named Banjo. I forgot we're doing a few nights with them stillwoods.
[00:56:19] Speaker A: Dude, that's awesome.
[00:56:20] Speaker B: Ricky Skaggs on top of the Ashley stuff and everything else. So yeah, look at Get Up on my Socials is a really good way to kind of link you to everything, man.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Well, y'all be sure to follow our boy Will Jones and stream the hell out of his music because it is damn good as country damn music.
[00:56:35] Speaker B: Country damn music.
[00:56:36] Speaker A: And it is damn good. Appreciate y'all watching this episode of Outside the Round. Shout out to our friends, Big Friendly Productions, will Tail Media Saxman Studios. You want to find out more about us, visit razeride.com like rate subscribe. Tell your mama and them and we will see you next time. For my boy Will, I'm Matt Burrill. This has been outside the round.
[00:57:04] Speaker B: Come on.
I never been the kind for stand one place for too long.
I never been the best at this.
[00:57:30] Speaker A: I love you.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: To a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me if you really know me you know I'm just a two trick pony maybe the drink and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick pony you? Yeah, I'm a fan.
