Abbey Cone: Moving to Nashville at a Young Age, Independent Artist Life, and 'I Hate Springsteen'

Episode 195 August 19, 2024 00:54:23
Abbey Cone: Moving to Nashville at a Young Age, Independent Artist Life, and 'I Hate Springsteen'
Outside The Round w/ Matt Burrill
Abbey Cone: Moving to Nashville at a Young Age, Independent Artist Life, and 'I Hate Springsteen'

Aug 19 2024 | 00:54:23

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Matt Burrill

Show Notes

On Episode 195 we're joined by Abbey Cone! Abbey discusses her experiences growing up in Texas and moving to Nashville at the young age of 16. She talks about the vibrant honky-tonk culture in Texas and the changes she has seen in the relationship between Texas and Nashville. Abby also shares her early experiences in songwriting and the impact of her family's support on her career. She reflects on the benefits of being an independent artist and the control it gives her over her music Abby also discusses her upcoming projects and collaborations, including her song 'I Hate Springsteen' featuring John Osborne of The Brothers Osborne. She also shares her love for YouTube and her fur babies! 

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[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt Barrill for Rage Rowdy podcast. What's going on? Miss Abby cone, welcome to outside the round. [00:00:25] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Thanks for coming all the way out here to old hickory, Tennessee. It sounds like you felt like you were at home being behind a tractor supply. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm from Texas. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Yeah, I wore my Billy Bob shirt. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Wait, I have my Billy Bob's jacket on. [00:00:38] Speaker A: No shit. Let's go. The world's greatest honky love. [00:00:44] Speaker B: I was just there in Fort Worth. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Oh, really? What are you doing out there? [00:00:47] Speaker B: I just hadn't been home in a long time, like, to just chill and see my family and I. My best friend lives out there. She lives like ten minutes from my parents and. [00:00:55] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:00:56] Speaker B: We just had to have a Billy Bob's. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Yeah. What's it like growing up near that place? Like, like, people have like, small town bars that they go to, but that has like, the small town feel, I guess, for you because, like, you're from there, but it's like the biggest building to do. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Oh, I know. [00:01:12] Speaker A: To enjoy, like, western cowboy culture. [00:01:15] Speaker B: So it's 18 and up, so, like, I could go there and like, sort of in high school and stuff. And I also played there a lot. But it's interesting going back as like, more of an adult and like. Cause I had. I moved to Nashville when I was like 16, almost 17. [00:01:31] Speaker A: I saw that. I've got the whole sheet right here, all the background, all the notes, everything. Great job on the talking points over there, brother. [00:01:38] Speaker B: So I hadn't, like, my. When I was there a couple weeks ago, my best friend Sunny and my other friend Madison, who's Canadian, flew down. We were riding for a couple days at home. And since I was, like, too young, I never had really, like, been out in the stockyards before. And we had like, a full, like, stockyards night. It was lit. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard the stockyards are lit is a good way to describe it. I've never been out in the stockyards. I've only been, like, in the building. [00:02:03] Speaker B: It's like, better than Broadway. [00:02:04] Speaker A: It's like, better than Broadway. [00:02:06] Speaker B: I mean, most things are. Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, there's just like, nothing better than being in, like, a honky talk and, like, an old man that knows how to dance. Just like asking you to dance. And it's not like, weird. Do you know what I mean? And you just get to dance and then go on your way and nothing's creepy. [00:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. He's got nothing creepy on his mind. [00:02:29] Speaker B: He just wants to dance. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Girls just want to dance. [00:02:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that is true. There's not as much of that in Nashville. [00:02:35] Speaker B: No, for sure. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I used to work in a past life. I was out on the road as a tour manager and as a merch guy, and I went to Billy Bob's, like, right before COVID like, the end of 2019. But I didn't leave the property when I was over there. I've heard the stockyards are just the place to go. [00:02:51] Speaker B: It's pretty fun. It's really weird to see it now because, like, when I was growing up, it was, like, so my whole family. I come from, like, a rodeo family. Everyone. Rodeos. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Very Texas of you. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Quintessential Texas family. And so I, like, my parents put on rodeos and stuff in the stockyards, and so I just grew up going there. But there was no. I mean, the bars have always been there, but, like, now there's, like, this giant hotel called the drover, and it's, like, this beautiful hotel, and there's a lucchese store, and it's just gorgeous now. And it's crazy to see it. I was walking around, and there's people speaking, tourists speaking different languages, and I'm like, what are you guys doing here? It's interesting. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's just the western culture going boom. Yellowstone. [00:03:38] Speaker B: It's Yellowstone. It's giving Yellowstone. Yeah, we love it. [00:03:43] Speaker A: So, like, yeah, you probably see, like, there's probably, like, bachelorette parties and, like, everything that you get tourists here, you get in the stockyards. [00:03:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Honestly, like, I feel like the stockyards is a better place to have a bachelorette party than Broadway. I'm just like, stockyards over Broadway right now. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Just stockyards over Broadway. So you came out here, you moved out here, you said, when you were 16. What is it like moving here when you're 16? Because I moved here at 23, so I was old enough, and I actually used to work on the bars at Bro down on Broadway. Security for. Paid my dues. Doing that for a while. But what's it like moving here as a teenager? [00:04:16] Speaker B: Well, I was, like, I was 16, about to turn 17. And, I mean, the older I get, the younger it seems to me. Like, now that I'm about to turn 26 in September, and I'm like, damn, 16 was young. I didn't feel. I mean, you always feel like you're, like, grown up or whatever. I felt like grown up but I'm like, no, I was a fetus. Like, I was a child. I feel like from the years of, like, 17 to 20 for me are, like, kind of just, like a blur. I was just, like, writing all the time, doing what everyone does when they first get here. And, like, it was great. Like, I had a good community of people. I got a publishing deal when I was 16 with a company that's not around anymore. But just, like, I've always gotten really lucky with being, like, surrounded by really good people. And, I mean, it's normal to me. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah. That's wild. Ten years ago. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Ten years. [00:05:11] Speaker A: That's crazy. Well, they say it's a ten year town, and it seems like shit's been working for you. You've had a lot of good stuff going. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Thank you. Yeah. [00:05:17] Speaker A: So what, like, it seems like, obviously the CMT, the next women of country stuff get to do. So Britney Spencer, like, you've had some. Some cool shit kind of popping. How's it all, how's it all been going lately? [00:05:29] Speaker B: It's good. I feel like I'm really, I don't know. I feel like it's, like, shaping up and kind of, like, my life sort of is, like, shaping out in this really beautiful way right now to where I, like, have really great friends. And, like, some of them happen to be artists. You know what I mean? Like, me and Britney Spencer are best friends. And, like, that happened. I opened for her. We didn't even know each other. We had, Mickey Guyton was our mutual friend, and I opened for her in 2021 on her club tour. And I just, like, hopped in a van with her, and, like, we just literally became best friends. And then it's so, which I feel like is semi rare to have a best friend that's also another artist. Maybe I just haven't experienced that yet. But it's so nice to be best friends with someone who knows exactly what you're going through. And she's doing such cool shit right now, cooler shit than I'm doing, but I still know exactly how she feels in those moments, even though she's doing bigger, bigger shit than I am. But, like, yeah, my friendship with her is just, like, truly such, like, a. We support each other, you know? She brings me to everything. She. I just was, I sang backgrounds for her at the Hollywood bowl. Like, a couple. [00:06:47] Speaker A: No big deal. Just the Hollywood bowl. [00:06:49] Speaker B: I know she was opening for John Mellencamp, Bob Dylan, and Willie Nelson at the Hollywood bowl. It was great. It was crazy. And then Willie, like, calls everyone not like Bob Dylan and stuff, but like the other opening bands or whatever calls him back out there for the last song. And so I was like, on stage singing I'll fly away with Billy Nelson. [00:07:11] Speaker A: The Texas girl dream. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Britney was like, I'm just talking about random shit now. But Britney was like, I'm like a semi. I'm kind of like a deadpan person. Sort of like my humor sometimes. [00:07:25] Speaker A: What do you mean by deadpan? [00:07:27] Speaker B: Like, if somebody says something funny, I'll be like, that's hilarious. Like, but I won't actually, like, laugh. But I think it's funny. Yeah, but, like, it takes kind of, like, a lot for me to get, like, super, like, excited about something. And after we sang with Willie, I walked off stage and I just was, like screaming. I was, like squealing, jumping up and down. And she was like, it took singing on stage with Willie Nelson to get me to see you like this excited. Yeah, that's what it, that's what I'm talking about. Like, I don't know why I went on that tangent. No, but, yeah, my, I feel, I'm really happy right now. I feel since I have been an independent artist for the last man, I don't have a concept of time. Maybe it's been almost two years. It's been great. It's been great for me. It's, you know, I had, I had a song called if you were a song that I put out that was my first release as an independent artist. And it did the best that, that any song has done for me, which was really, like, gratifying and made me feel really good. And that was cool. And then since then, I've just been, like, releasing. I've just been, I haven't really known what I've been doing, but I've just been following my intuition on things. [00:08:43] Speaker A: And it's like, you do what you want to do. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I just do what I want to do. [00:08:46] Speaker A: When it comes to Abby Cohn, Llc, you are the CEO, the boss. You're the person on the ground doing everything. That's the power of being an independent artist. You have the control to do what the fuck you want to do, which is so fulfilling. [00:08:59] Speaker B: And it's like, even if it's like I said this the other day in some interview where I was like, and this is no shade to, like, this is no shade to anyone in general. But it's like when you do, when you're not an independent artist and you're a baby artist, like, at a label, it's like, sometimes hard to celebrate your, like, small wins because they just feel really small in the grand scheme of, like, the whole system or whatever. And for me, like, with my little tiny team that works hard all the time, like, we get to, like, celebrate the tiniest things because they don't feel very small anymore. They, like. You know what I mean? And it's like. Because we, like. It's like we did that, you know? So it's been really, like, good for me to be an independent artist. Like, I don't. I don't. I think, like, still in the greater picture of things. Like, I would. I would. I don't think I want to be independent forever, but it's like. It's just, like, good. Better for me right now. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And right now is the best time. [00:09:58] Speaker B: To be an independent artist. [00:09:59] Speaker A: You have all these tools at your disposal. You can reach so many people. You don't just have to be on the radio anymore. [00:10:05] Speaker B: This is true. [00:10:06] Speaker A: You can just post a video on TikTok. You have no idea what you're. What you're. You have an idea of what you're doing, but you don't know what it can do, and you can have shit just pop off. And it's like that with us, too, with what we do with raised rowdy. You know, it's. You never know, but it's nice to be behind the wheel and driving the car the way you want it to go. [00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like, it's my life. I should be in control of it. [00:10:27] Speaker A: You know, saying it like Bon Jovi. It's my life. [00:10:29] Speaker B: It's my life. [00:10:31] Speaker A: So what was Abby Cohn like growing up? You move out here at 16, so, like, your developmental years as a teenager are out here figuring that out. But what before you move out here, what was it like? [00:10:42] Speaker B: Well, I've been doing this, like, pretty much my whole. I started singing. I started singing lessons when I was six. Like, so I said my family, like, was a rodeo family. I didn't rodeo. I am kind of scared of horses, honestly. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Wow. [00:10:58] Speaker B: I love them. I love them a lot. But I just. [00:11:03] Speaker A: They're big fucking animals. [00:11:04] Speaker B: Big ass animals. [00:11:05] Speaker A: And if you see somebody get kicked by a horse or get thrown off a horse, which you. Yeah, you were around rodeo. You saw the wildest of those animals. [00:11:12] Speaker B: And so I was at the rodeos. That was, like, my vibe. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:17] Speaker B: And I sang the national anthem for the first time when I was six in the stockyards at a rodeo. And, like, I did it, like, two nights in a row, and there was, like, a thousand people there. And, like, I don't know why I'm thinking of this story right now. It was, like, just sweet. My dad, like, I was so scared the first night that my mom, like, I made my mom walk out into the middle of the arena with me and, like, hold my hand while I, like, sang the national anthem. And the second night, my dad, like, my dad got, like, a smoke machine. Whoa. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Effects. Okay. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Dad got a smoke machine. And, like, I don't know why I'm telling you this, but it just, like, I've been doing this forever, and, like, my role in my family is, like the family entertainer, you know, I started singing in Texas. There's, like, kind of smaller, like, opry, like, kind of like the grand Ole Opry, but, like, teeny ones, you know, just, like, live bandaid that style or whatever. And it's really nice for, like, kids that do music because it gives them a place to go sing that's not like a bar, you know? And so I played at a lot of them, but specifically one called the Grapevine Opry. I sang there for the first time when I was nine. And I pretty much, like, sang there every weekend from nine to when I moved to Nashville, which was, like, I think a lot a big part to do with, like. Like, I started singing with a live band when I was nine. I got really used to it and, like, I loved that and. Yeah, so it's just. I've just done this my whole life, I guess. Like, I played, like, basketball and. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Oh, you did that all through high school? [00:12:55] Speaker B: I did that through, like, you know how you can play, like, outside school leagues and stuff, like, when you're. When you're, like a baby child. Like, I did that and then I played, like, freshman year. I wasn't, like, on varsity or anything. I was, like, on JV, but, like, I loved basketball. I did. And, like, I grew up going to the Dallas Mavericks games and, like, stuff like that. I love basketball. Anyways. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Mark Cuban stuff right there. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Yeah, Mark Cuban. I sang. I sang the national anthem when I was nine at. At the Mavs game. It was like their opening game. It might have been pre, it might. [00:13:25] Speaker A: Have been preseason, and the Mavs were really freaking good back in the day, the Dirk days, Jason kidd, Jason Terry. Like, the Mavs were good. Everybody's like, oh, they're good now because of Luca. It's like, no, they have a long history of being really, really good at basketball. [00:13:39] Speaker B: And my dad, like, bought me, and my sister is two years older than me. But we kind of, like, kind of grew up like twins. Sort of, like, we wore the same shit and, like, my dad had us, like, dripped out and, like, Mav's gear, you know, like the, like the, like, the pants that, like, button up, you know? Yeah, we had the tearaways. We had the tearaways. And then. Yeah, I sang the anthem when I was nine. And I just remember they were playing who's Dwayne? The heat. No, it's not wade. Oh, no. It's Dwight Howard. [00:14:15] Speaker A: The magic. [00:14:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is Orlando. Orlando. I just remember being nine and I was standing, like, sidelines and I just remember Dwight Howard standing right next to me. And I looked up and I was like, that's the tallest person. I'm nine. You know what I mean? I was probably four. [00:14:33] Speaker A: He's like, 611. [00:14:34] Speaker B: He's like, almost 7ft tall. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, I sang the anthem there and, like, I met Mark Cuban and shit and it was cute. [00:14:43] Speaker A: That's cool. See, it's funny, like, you talking about being, like, six and nine, like, young. So my girlfriend has, like, a little six year old daughter, so I spend a lot of time watching bluey, like, doing all the kids stuff. So I can't imagine her singing the national anthem at a rodeo, like, doing that at six. [00:15:00] Speaker B: No, I, like, that's a big deal. When I see, like, six year old, nine year olds, eleven year olds now I'm like, what? Like babies? [00:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:09] Speaker B: Like, yeah. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:12] Speaker A: So what was it like moving here to Nashville first? Did you. Do you get homesick still? Or was that just when you were younger or did you never get homesick? Were you like, I have to be. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Here kind of oddly, like, yeah, I think that. So I just give you, like, my sort of spark notes. Yeah, I'll give you my spark notes. So when I was twelve, I came to Nashville for the first time. I went to the opry and I went to the listening room. The, like, og listening room. When I was. When I went to the Opry, I saw Vince Gill, which I'm like, the biggest Vince Gill fan in the world and. Sorry, hang on, there's something in my throat. [00:15:51] Speaker A: Oh, you're good. You're good. Yeah. Because I'm trying to think of what year. So that would be 14 years ago. So that'd be like 2010. It'd be like zero nine. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah, 2010. And saw him did the, like, little backstage tour thing and, like, Vince's door is, like, always open. I know that now. But, like, and ran into him on, like, the little tour or whatever, have a picture with him, like, outside of his dressing room. So I did that, and I was like. That was a big part in, like, me being like, oh, like, this is the shit. Like, I really would love to do this. And then I went to the listening room, and oddly enough, I ended up watching a round where his daughter, Jenny Gillenhe was playing. And that, like, it's like, I got to see, like, the. The performance side of everything, the, like, being an artist, like, Vince being Vince. And then I saw, like, a songwriter round at the same time, and I was like, oh, like, this is sick. Like, both of them, you know, and just kind of, like, from then on, like, I. From the time I was, like, 14, like, I was spending, like, a week, a month here. And, like, I met some people. That very first night, I met this. This girl named Amanda Williams. Her dad, who's passed away. I can't remember his name, but he wrote, like, three wooden crosses. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Oh, wow. So, like, some ogs. [00:17:14] Speaker B: Some, like, og shit. And, like, she really, like, I haven't. I haven't talked to her in years and years, but, like, she was the one who kind of, like, took me under her wing and, like, taught me what co writing was. There was another guy named Steve Leslie who's a great songwriter. He was, like, an adjunct professor at Belmont, too, at the time, and he was part of the first publishing company that I had. And those two people, like, Steve Leslie and Amanda Williams, they really. The craft of songwriting was, like, really big to them. And, like, looking back now, I'm like, oh, that's what. That's what, like, got in me was, like, the. Like, there's nothing I love more than, like, writing songs. Like, I love performing, and I have no desire to not be an artist, but, like, I'm an artist because I write songs, you know? So I just got, like. I just. I just got the bug, you know? And. And then my mom. My parents are very, like, entrepreneurial and, like, what's the right word? Just, like, ambitious people. And my dad kind of, like, with my. With my siblings, like, it was kind of like my dad. Cause he took them all on, like, the rodeo circuit and stuff like that, and I didn't do that. So my dad kind of, like, did the thing with my sister and, like, took her where she needed to go, and then my mom was, like, took me where I needed to go and, like, took it upon herself to, like, learn as much as she could about, like, the industry. And, like, yeah, I had, like, we got really lucky with like, parents who really, like, supported our dreams. And so it was really just like, my mom and I, like, like, coming back and forth and, like, it was giving momager for, like, a little bit. She's not anymore. [00:19:08] Speaker A: It all starts out like it does, honestly. Really does. When you're starting at a young age like that you want your parents to be. It's kind of weird if they're not. [00:19:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And, like, and she. I feel like she wishes she was a songwriter. Like, she loves. She loves it, too. She'll call me and be like, I have this title. Stop. [00:19:29] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:19:29] Speaker B: But, yeah, it just, like, sometimes I'll ask myself, like. Cause when as I get older, I'm like, damn, that was so young. Like, why did I. And then I'm like, I just wanted it, I guess. Like, I just. There was no. Yeah, I just, like, it's just, like, what I wanted to do. And I do remember certain things of, like, you know, like, I did feel like I was missing out on stuff. Like, I remember, like, being, like, 16 and my, like, high school boyfriend was at, like, prom or something, and I was, like, crying because I didn't go to prom and, like, weird, like, shit like that. But I was always just like, no, this is what I do. This is what I want. Like, and I'm still like that. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:11] Speaker A: That's a good way to. Good way to look at it. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Honestly. And I feel like your. Your sound has developed a lot over the years. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:17] Speaker A: And that's what's fun to look back on, starting at such a young age. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:21] Speaker A: The stuff and the shit that you're writing at, like, 16 or at 14. When was the first song? When was Abby writing her first song? [00:20:30] Speaker B: Happy writing her first song? I know that I wrote. I mean, I think the first time I co wrote was with Amanda Williams when I was twelve. [00:20:38] Speaker A: That's crazy to just say out loud, like, I'm your inner room co writing. [00:20:41] Speaker B: No, I know. Yeah. And it was actually kind of, like. It was interesting. It was a song. This is kind of dark, but it's true that. So I was in. I think I was in 8th grade and maybe I wasn't. How old are you in 8th grade? Maybe I was younger. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Grade. You're. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Maybe it was 7th grade. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Like, you're kind of 7th grade. Like, you're around twelve. Yeah. That's like, the Little League World Series is like twelve. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So, like, I think I was maybe in 7th grade and there was a kid that was in my class that passed away, like, super suddenly. And, like, we all went to school the next day and it was like, oh, my God, what happened? Like, it was just super sad. And I had, like, a trip planned to Nashville, like, the next week or something like that. And it was a kid that, like, I wasn't, like, super close with him, but it did, like, affect. It affected our whole class, you know? And his. His, like, his sister was younger than me, and then there was a. Another sister that was in my sister's grade. And it's just like when you grow up in a small town, like a small school, it's like that, you know, shakes people. And so I came to Nashville, like, the next week and I wrote a song about it. I wrote this song called I'll see you. And it's like, it was like, I'll see you when it's my time. Like, when? Like, I don't know. I just. [00:21:54] Speaker A: You wrote that at twelve? [00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah, like, I. Wow. Yeah, like, and it was with Amanda and I just. I think I just. Yeah, it was like. It was like how I process. Like, that's what I love about songs. Like, you can turn something into a song and then it just lives there, you know? Like, I genuinely am, like, sometimes with, like, people that aren't songwriters, I'm like, how do you process shit? Like, I don't. Yeah, like, you just have to hold it inside of you and you don't get to make anything out of it. Like, that's why I think all people should, like, do something, like, creatively or. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Like, people talk about journaling and that's kind of a similar. Journaling is a similar thing. [00:22:35] Speaker B: And, like, those. So then I sent it to his. His family and I was like, I just wrote the song and they loved it so much. They, like, had little cds made of it and, like, wow. I think I played it at his, like, memorial or something like that. Like, which now looking back is so kind of, like, intense, but it just. I'm like, yeah, that's what I've. That's what I do. I. That's how I've processed my stuff from, like, a super young age. So that was actually, like, one of my first songs that I ever wrote, and then. Yeah, and then I was just writing a lot with Amanda after that, and just Nashville does what it does. And you just meet people. [00:23:16] Speaker A: Yeah, you meet so many people, and a lot of people meet folks at the bars, but when you're coming here at 1213 14, move here at 16, you're obviously not meeting people at the bars. [00:23:29] Speaker B: That's why? I mean, like, I've gotten really lucky with. Just because I'm like, who would write with a twelve year old? Like, I don't like what I would if I. You know what I mean? Like, because I would see myself in them, you know? But it is crazy to be like, wow. So many people, like, gave me a chance, which I really, like, appreciate that. And. And we'll always do that for a younger person, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:23:55] Speaker A: How have you seen Nashville change? Because you've been coming here for a long time. You've seen it. I've only. I've been here. It'll be six years for me in October. [00:24:02] Speaker B: Where are you from? [00:24:03] Speaker A: From New York originally. So I love that you have Springsteen in a tight. [00:24:07] Speaker B: What part of New York? [00:24:08] Speaker A: An area called Rockland county. It's like 30 minutes outside the city. [00:24:11] Speaker B: I love New York. [00:24:12] Speaker A: Really? [00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I really do. I'm like. I like Sex and the city is my favorite growing up. So I think I just, like, have a. I have, like, a. I romanticize New York a little. I have, like, an extra Instagram account that, like, I never use. It's called country Bradshaw. It's like, do you know, like, do you know sex and city at all? They're the main characters. [00:24:30] Speaker A: I don't. [00:24:30] Speaker B: The main character. Okay, let me teach you. Yeah, the main character. [00:24:32] Speaker A: That's Sarah Jessica Parker. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Okay. Yes. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Perfect. [00:24:35] Speaker A: I knew that. [00:24:36] Speaker B: We're off to a great start. [00:24:37] Speaker A: There's one point. [00:24:37] Speaker B: Yeah, one point for you. It's four girls that are in their thirties and they're, like, dating in New York City. That's just like. That's the whole show. So it's just. It's just plot. It's just the drama of it all. But Carrie Bradshaw, who is Sarah Jessica Parker, and the show is like a. Like a journalist in the show, and that was just such a formidable, like, influential show to me. And so, yeah, I have this random Instagram account called Country Bradshaw. Cause every time I'm in New York, I, like, feel. I just call myself country Bradshaw. It's like my New York alternate reality. [00:25:12] Speaker A: We love a good alter ego. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Anyways, what was I saying? Oh, I asked you where you were from. But why? [00:25:17] Speaker A: When I moved, I moved here. [00:25:18] Speaker B: I know, but what did you ask me? [00:25:20] Speaker A: I asked you what, like, the changes that you've seen in Nashville in a. [00:25:23] Speaker B: Decade of being here, one big change I've seen is the relationship between Texas, Texas and Nashville specifically. I was talking to someone about this the other day where, like, even. Even, like, I mean, dare I say, like, a couple years ago? Like, not really. Maybe, like, five. But, like, when I was growing up in Texas, it was like, don't stay in Texas too long, because then you'll go to Nashville and, like, you'll be. You'll. They'll think you're, like, a Texas artist, and then. But if you go to Nashville too soon, like, the people that, like, you in Texas will call you a sellout. And, like, now labels are, like, opening Texas branches, which I love. I think it's great. But that's just a big change that I've seen, that I'm. That I'm super happy about it. Part of me is like, damn. Like, I would have. I would have chilled in Texas until I was, like, 18. You know what I mean? [00:26:15] Speaker A: It's all what you want. And there's so many different ways of creating the wheel. And it's like, funny. You look around here, and it's like, you got the panhandlers right there. We got whiskey Myers right there. Like, we love the red dirt scene. And what's cool is that red dirt. It's so good that it needs to be outside of the. [00:26:31] Speaker B: When I was at Billy Bob's, it was Wade Bowen and Randy Rogers. And they're like, hold my beer and. [00:26:36] Speaker A: Watch this all time show right there. [00:26:38] Speaker B: God. And I. Like, listening to Randy, I was like, oh, this shit, like, influenced, like, kiss me in the dark, like, in my arms. Instead, I was like, oh, this is, like, my high school. [00:26:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That era of when you were there. I'm trying to think, like, I remember, like, Sam Riggs. [00:26:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Sam. Like, who else? [00:26:57] Speaker A: Shotgun rider. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Josh Abbott. [00:26:59] Speaker A: Josh Abbott. [00:27:00] Speaker B: Even, like, Parker McCollum. Like, I played, like, a little round thing with him at, like, there's a place called city limits in Stephenville, Texas, where it was him and co wetzel. And, like, I don't know them now or whatever, but. But, yeah, like, there was, like, Texas shit, you know? And it's. It's. And I mean, Cody Johnson. Like, yeah. Grew up. No one. No one. Like, Cody Johnson was not Cody Johnson. You know what I mean? But so, yeah, that's just a massive change that I've seen, which I think is dope. What else have I seen? I mean, big shift in, like, independent artists. You know? I think everyone's. Yeah. [00:27:43] Speaker A: I mean, even just, like, the terrain of Nashville. Just all the buildings going up, just midtown being different. [00:27:49] Speaker B: Just Nashville. [00:27:50] Speaker A: Just Nashville in Japan. [00:27:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, for sure. [00:27:52] Speaker A: Like, how's it different from 20, 2014? [00:27:55] Speaker B: There's just so many more people. Like, it's crazy. I was a green Hills girly. Most of my, like. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Okay, so you've been in the city? So you've been in the city. [00:28:03] Speaker B: Yeah, and then I lived in Berry Hill for, like, years, and I, uh. Yeah, just. It's just crazy. It used to feel like a big, small town. Now it feels like a small, big city. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:17] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:28:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, it's not quite Dallas or New York or Charlotte or Chicago or LA, but it's getting there. [00:28:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, we're in a. [00:28:25] Speaker A: We're like a train system away. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Some growing pains. Yeah. [00:28:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, the traffic is just fucking crazy. And I'm from New York. I know about traffic. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Why? I'm from Texas. [00:28:36] Speaker A: You're from DFW. [00:28:37] Speaker B: You know about Texas with Texas, though. So I'm like, okay, I'll spend 45 minutes driving from Fort Worth to Dallas. That's like, the mileage makes sense for the time. The mileage from going to. From 8th Avenue to 12th Avenue, like, with the minutes, like, does not. The math. Does not math. Yeah, it's annoying. Also, people can't drive here. [00:28:56] Speaker A: Well, it's. Cause we're all from different places. [00:28:58] Speaker B: No, I know. It's all, like, wild now. I know. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Yeah. It's. Cause in New York, the left blinker is, like, the middle finger out the window and we're cutting you off, you know? And then west coast, they're driving, like, chill. The southerners have no idea what the hell they're doing. Like, it's all over the place. [00:29:13] Speaker B: I do feel like every time I. Like, I was just in LA and, like, I love California. I love LA. But, like, every time I get. Every time I get, like, like, restless in Nashville, I just, like, need to go somewhere else because then when I get back, I'm like, okay. Like, it really does. Like, I do love it here. I'll get, like, bitchy sometimes. Be like. Like, it here, but I love it here. [00:29:37] Speaker A: In ten years, you're officially a local too. I've heard that. They've said. They say that, like, I can't bitch about it yet. Cause I'm only at six years. [00:29:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:43] Speaker A: So I'm not there yet, but I'm getting close, you know? Yeah, I'm getting close. Going back to the Texas stuff, too. It's like, the. Just the Texas artists and even, like, the different sounds that are coming out of Texas. Like, you were there. Like, I'm thinking about that. When you move out here and you're in your 16, like, co is just starting to become a thing. Whiskey Myers, like, the rocking side. Like, you saw it a little bit with, like, the cross canadian ragweed guys. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Even, like, Caitlin butts. [00:30:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah, we played, like, a lot of stuff together. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Yeah, there was, like, this rock segment coming out. You still had, like, the neo traditional twirl around the dance floor. Kind of. Yeah, kind of actually turnpike doing what they were doing up north in Oklahoma. And then you have to me, when I think of, like, mainstream Texas that spans outside of the Lone Star State, I think of, like, kojo, I think of Parker, I think of people that are. That are able to do, like, have different sounds. And that's something that you've got. You've got a few. You've got quite a few different sounds. Like you're. You don't just have, like, one thing that's over and over and over again. You blend a lot of shit. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Which is great. [00:30:47] Speaker B: I am. I appreciate that. I really want to. I want people to feel that way about, like, I don't want to have to do one thing because I love so many different types of music. And, like, you know, like, the music I'm working on right now, like, I'm gonna put out. I'm gonna put out something this year. I don't really know what it is. I'm just, like. I'm just working on it. [00:31:13] Speaker A: Well, maybe you haven't written it yet. Maybe I have. You have? Okay. I was gonna say maybe. Maybe you have, like, you know, that's the beauty of it, too. It being independent. You never know. You're going to a right later this week. [00:31:23] Speaker B: No, that. No, I do love that I'm saying I've written it, but, like, I wrote probably three songs in the last three weeks that I'm like, oh, those are the songs. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Those need to be. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Yeah, those. Those are the ones. And so, yeah, I can feel something coming together. And, like, some of it is, like, some of it's a little more pop, but, like, I, like, a couple months ago, I was, like, listening to all my stuff, and I was like, wow, I tend to kind of either write, like, just right now. Like, I tend to kind of write almost like a. It's. I think country is about the writing. I don't really give a shit about the production, but, like, I tend to write more of, like, a pop leaning song or I go, like, traditional country. [00:32:10] Speaker A: Like, one or the other. [00:32:11] Speaker B: It's like one or the other. I mean, sort of. And I was like, I just don't want to have to, like, pick, like, I want to do all of it, but as far as the way that the more traditional country stuff is produced, like, I don't. I'm still trying to, like, manifest the right person to, like, work with for that and, like, really, like, I've always dreamed of, like, cut, like, cutting a record, like, with. With the band. Like, it doesn't have to be, like, sony tree spending a billion dollars on it, but, like, I've just, I just know that, like, the time for that is coming. And this other stuff that I'm working on is more, like, I'm working with producers that I really love, and it's like, you know, more of, like, the modern way of doing things, like, and, yeah, so the stuff that I'm probably gonna release, like, before the end of the year is, like, more on the same vein as I hate spring scene and if you were a song, it's just not, but I'm going, like, I'm going country. You're going now I'm going. I need to. It's like, I don't think people. It's not even about what people do or don't know. It's like when I grew up singing traditional country music, you know? And, like, when I sing traditional country, it's like, I feel like it's, like breathing to me. [00:33:26] Speaker A: What was your go to cover the day? [00:33:27] Speaker B: Help me make it through the night yeah help me make it through the night he stopped loving her today. I mean, everything. Like, literally every, everything. It's just the best music. Like, there's no, there's no better than, like, a good ass country song. Like, till I can make it on my own. Like, yeah. And I just have such a desire to, like, I. I feel like I'm a singer. As a singer, it feels so good to sing that shit. So that's in my heart right now, but I know it'll show up when it's right, like, the right situation. And I can't wait. I really can't wait to find myself. I'm kind of woo woo. Sometimes where I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I know it'll happen. Like, I know I'll find myself in a studio somewhere one day and I'll like, wow, I'm making. I'm making the thing that I wanted to make. Yeah, but I'm loving the stuff that I'm working on right now in a more, like, modern way. And, yeah, I like the idea of putting out a pop song and seeing, like, who resonates with that, you know? It's like. So I'm just, again, like, no one's the boss of me. [00:34:48] Speaker A: So what's the boss? Abby's the boss. The boss, baby. Let's go. Let's go. So what do you like doing when you're not doing music stuff? You're on the grind, like, as an independent artist, it's a different grind. You're at it, at it, at it, at it, at it. You keep going. It's your passion. The bug bit you. What do you like doing? [00:35:06] Speaker B: What do I like doing? [00:35:07] Speaker A: How do you unwind? Like, what'd you do this weekend? [00:35:11] Speaker B: Well, what did I do this weekend? Well, I was in Texas for, like, two and a half weeks. [00:35:18] Speaker A: Oh, okay. That's right. You're talking about the stockyards and Billy Bob's and all that, but, like, a weekend off in Nashville. [00:35:25] Speaker B: A weekend off in Nashville. I have, like, really good girlfriends who happen to be artists, so, like, sometimes. A lot of times, they're gone. Also, my best friend lives in Texas, so, like, I don't know. I, like, I don't know what I do. I don't know what I do for fun. I'm going through some. Some massive changes in my life right now that I don't. That I can't really, like, super get into, but. So, like, my life right now is a bit. A bit. Not chaotic in a bad way, but just. I'm just going through a ton of changes, and so, like, out of a. [00:36:02] Speaker A: Routine of what you. [00:36:03] Speaker B: So I don't. I don't. I don't really know what I like to do right now. [00:36:07] Speaker A: I've been like, do you like going to the movies? Do you like reading books? [00:36:11] Speaker B: Do you like. [00:36:12] Speaker A: What do you like doing? [00:36:13] Speaker B: You know what's funny is, like, I'm. I'm, like, extroverted introvert. So, like, yeah, I'm like, I think I'm explained. I think I'm an introvert. Like, I get tired of people, and I'm like, okay, I want to go home and take a bath and social battery drinks. Yeah, like, my social. It doesn't drain, like, quick, necessarily, but it drains. Like, I don't get, like, I guess the introvert and extrovert is, like, what refills your cup, and, like, people is not necessarily what refills my cup. Like, a bath refills my. My cup. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I. But I love people. And what do I do? I love chillin by myself, watching YouTube videos. Like, I'm. I like grew up. Like, I'm a YouTube kid. Like, I consume so much YouTube content. [00:37:06] Speaker A: What? On YouTube? [00:37:07] Speaker B: I mean, I will. I will go down rabbit holes of, like. Like, live performances of people. Okay. [00:37:16] Speaker A: Like, watching, like, the. Like, you talk about the Austin city. [00:37:18] Speaker B: Limits, the live sessions, tiny desk, all that stuff. Absolutely. Yeah. I actually got to, like, sing with. With Brittany Spencer on her tiny. [00:37:28] Speaker A: Oh, no shit. [00:37:28] Speaker B: It was sick. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. [00:37:30] Speaker B: I helped her. [00:37:31] Speaker A: How small is that room? [00:37:32] Speaker B: It's bigger than you think it is. It's not big by any means, but, like, I'll show you pictures of it after. It's, like. It's, like, a medium desk. It's not. It's not as tiny as you as it seems, but, like, it is small. But that was sick. I helped her. I helped her arrange her set. You get, like, 18 minutes, and, like, we arranged it together, and. And then I sang backgrounds for her, and it was so sick. But, yeah, I love, like, there. I love YouTube content specifically. So I have, like, my music performance things that I watch, like, BBC radio one, like, live laughs. [00:38:11] Speaker A: They do a great job. [00:38:12] Speaker B: Incredible. Incredible. But then I, like, like, I grew up, like, watching, like, makeup videos on YouTube. Like, I really love makeup. [00:38:21] Speaker A: The how to stuff. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, and then. Yeah, I just, like, kind of got got by, like, YouTube culture as a kid. Like, I. There's, like, certain vloggers that I like, and I'm just still on my YouTube shit. Like, I just love it. Yeah. So I. I just vibe nice. Yeah. [00:38:40] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I have a dog. You have my dog. You have a dog and a picture. Yeah. I also have her name tattooed on me. She's named after Patsy Cline. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say, you definitely grew up a country western girl. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker A: You're name. You're naming an animal patsy. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Also, there's a funny. There's a funny story. Like, my. I got a dog when I was 16 for my high school graduation present, and it was a. I had always wanted a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:09] Speaker B: And I. My parents got me one, and then my dad fell in love with it and stole it from me. Stole it from this dog. Hash. Yeah. He's like, I love her, which is, like, just so dad vibes, but I named her Dolly. So her name's Dolly. Dolly Parton. And then once he stole my dog, I was like, okay, fuck you. I'm naming. I'm naming my dog Patsy. This is Patsy. [00:39:28] Speaker A: She's just a small girl, and she's got a little girl. She's got a little. Her little seat. [00:39:33] Speaker B: She vibes. Yeah, we just did. I just did a road trip with me, Patsy and my. I have a cat, too, by ourselves to Texas. [00:39:41] Speaker A: What's the cat's name? [00:39:42] Speaker B: My name's Bug. [00:39:43] Speaker A: So do bug and Patsy. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Yeah. They love each other. They've been raised together. Those are my children. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Yeah, your fur babies. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Those are my children. I birthed them. Yeah. Yeah. I love them. They're my. They're my life right now. Yeah. So we hang out. [00:39:57] Speaker A: That's awesome. Yeah. There's something about having a good. See, cats, I think, are underrated. People always are. Like dogs. I like cats. I enjoy. I enjoy. There's nothing quite like a cool fucking cat. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Okay. It has to be cool. There's nothing worse than a. Than a not cool cat. [00:40:13] Speaker A: Oh, a shithead cat that just climbs up and knocks stuff off the counter in the middle of the night. [00:40:19] Speaker B: I think that I have a cool cat. And I'm not just saying that. I'm probably biased, but she's a cool cat. I think that because I got her first when she was a baby and then I got my dog, like, a year later, so they were babies together. I think that my dog thinks she's a cat and my cat thinks she's a dog. So my dog or my cat kind of acts, like, more dog ish. She's very vocal and hangs out. She's not a weird cat that's off. I don't know. She acts more like a dog. And then my dog, she'll lay on the top of couches and stuff. Kind of acts like a cat, so I think that they think that they're each other. [00:41:00] Speaker A: Awesome. It's so funny how animals work. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I love that. [00:41:02] Speaker A: It's so funny. That's so cool. So what have we got coming up? You said that you've. You're working on what's gonna be coming next. Stuff will be getting put out here in the fall. [00:41:13] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, I'm. Well, I just had. So I put out a song called I hate Springsteen. [00:41:19] Speaker A: Yes. Which I love that spring scenes in the title. I'm more of a Billy Joel guy than a spring scene guy. John Osborne on that, too. [00:41:26] Speaker B: Fucking razor. Yeah. That was sick. It was just like, since I've been independent and, like, have. Like, I just don't. I'm just not afraid to, like, have a crazy idea and then see if it can happen. Like, I'm like, worst thing someone could do is say no. [00:41:47] Speaker A: The dartboards. A fun place to stand. [00:41:49] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:49] Speaker A: You never know when you're gonna hit that fucking. [00:41:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Retweet. And, like, I. I write with Lucy Silva's his wife, and then I love his sister Natalie. And I had met John and TJ before, and, like, I don't know, I was just, like. It was just one of my crazy ideas that I was like, probably won't happen. But then he, like, he was so sweet. He, like, he did that, like, out on the road. Like, he was on the road, and he just, like, has a rig. And, like, my manager was talking to his manager, and his manager was like. Like, he's been on the road for, like, a month. Like, I don't know when he's gonna get to this, and blah, blah, which. Totally understandable. And then he came back and was like, no, I can get to it this weekend. Like, I have. I have a rig on the road. Like, didn't even, like, didn't even, like, charge me anything. I was like, what do I owe you? Like. Like, he just gave it to me, like a fucking gift, and, like, just so sick. So I'm really grateful for that. That was cool. And I just, like, doing shit that, like, makes me feel cool. Like, I'm like, this is for me. Like, yeah, this is. So that I can be, like. You know what I mean? [00:42:49] Speaker A: And your fans are gonna identify with that, honestly. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Have fans? [00:42:54] Speaker A: I think you do. You have a. But you have. You have followers. There are people out there. They're gonna watch this episode because it says in the title episode, whatever. Without. There are. There are people out there. [00:43:04] Speaker B: That's so. That's a weird thing, though, about, like, being. I don't know. It feels like sometimes you're just, like, throwing things into the void. I know. I know that people. Yeah, I know. I've talked, like, even on the small amount of touring that I've done, like, I see, like, 510 people in each city that I go to that, like, know my shit, and, like. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:22] Speaker B: So I know. I know there's people out there. I'm just being self deprecating. So I put that out, and that was sick. And then I just had a song come out with Josh Kerr and featured on that, which was cool. I have another collab coming out at some point in time that I probably can't say it's a cool one. It's kind of country adjacent that I featured on, and then probably gonna put something else out in September, which is my birthday month, and then, yeah, I'm just. I'm cutting three songs at the end of this month, and, like, I just feel like it's gonna fall together and then it'll come out before the end of the year. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:09] Speaker B: Is what I'm hoping. Yeah. Yeah. [00:44:11] Speaker A: That's awesome. Yeah, well, it's been. It's been fun. Thank you. If someone's coming to Nashville, where are you taking them? And it's different for different, like, like, parents or grandparents come to town is different than, like, friends come to town different than, like, yeah, somebody's coming to town to celebrate something. So let's say, where are you taking the family? Where's the cone family going? Where the cones going in. They've been coming here just as long as you have. [00:44:43] Speaker B: Let's see. Last time we were here, I took my dad down the leapers fork. [00:44:47] Speaker A: Great spot. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he. He hadn't really. He's like, you take him out of town, he has, like, a three day max outside of Texas, and then you, like, he has to go back, you know, and, like, the city is just, like, not for him. So I was like, let me take you. Let me get you outside the city so you're not, like, crawling in your skin. This would maybe be fun to talk about. My. My. One of my best friends and favorite co writers, her name's Madison Kozak. She's an amazing writer artist. I know Madison. Love her. She. We started her, and I started a song right around called the Pony show. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Oh, no shit. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Yeah, we started it last October. [00:45:21] Speaker A: I've heard of this. I've seen people doing it. Yeah, people have been talking about that. You're doing a good job. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Thanks. It's at a place called the lake. Great. It's like this kind of little speakeasy vibe underneath the Virgin hotel and, like, great spot. It's so sick of. And we just, like, we wrote my song. I have a song called talk of the town that I wrote with her and Heather Morgan. And it's like, the hook is, like, we were just bitching one day, and, like, the hook is, like, you're only the talk of town until they find someone new to talk about. And it's just like, this really honest song about, like, nashville. And, like, that session led us to just talking about, you know, like, I don't know, just. We were like, why don't we start around, you know? And so we did, and, like, I got this fortune cookie, like, a couple years ago, and it said, begin, the rest is easy. And, like, it kind of changed my life. And I was like, we should just begin. The rest is easy. And so we did, and it's been, like, so cool. And so I'm not even just saying that to plug it. Like, I feel like if I. Even if it weren't my round, I would take someone to it because it feels like what it felt like to play it. Like. Belcourt taps back in the day. [00:46:24] Speaker A: Shout out, Belcourt. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Shout out. [00:46:26] Speaker A: Shout out, Belcott. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Miss you, Queendeze. Like, so. And my mom. My parents haven't gotten to come yet to a pony show, so this actually does. That is my answer. I would want to take them. [00:46:39] Speaker A: What day of the week does that happen? [00:46:40] Speaker B: It happens every last Wednesday of the month. So it's the one this month is on the 2020, 8th, 28th. And then we have an August, we have a September show, and then I think we might be done for the year, even though I wish we could do it October show, because it'll be a year. [00:46:57] Speaker A: If you ever want to come and play around or you want to do a pony show takeover. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:03] Speaker A: We happen to do. To stretch ourselves and do, like, a dozen or so events a month in town. [00:47:10] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:47:12] Speaker A: So you know how you're doing the one a month, and we used to. I used one. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Even one a month is like. [00:47:17] Speaker A: It's like I'm doing. I got one tonight here at the rusty now I got one Wednesday, and then we got one Sunday and then one Tuesday, then one Wednesday. Like, work. We're just running, going, so. But if you ever want to do. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Like, we've never done one, it'd be. [00:47:33] Speaker A: Sick to do that. We were at live oak for years, and then we just moved from live oak. We're gonna be at. It's not fully announced yet, but we're gonna be. We've been doing our Wednesday night, like, full band stuff at losers. [00:47:45] Speaker B: Cool. [00:47:45] Speaker A: So, we're gonna be moving the rounds to. We were gonna be moving to winners, but now it's going to be Riley Greens bar. So we're gonna have. [00:47:52] Speaker B: What's that called? [00:47:52] Speaker A: Riley Green's duck blind. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Okay, cool. [00:47:55] Speaker A: Where the were winners used to be? Oh, so it's about. It's about. [00:47:59] Speaker B: Wait, is there no more winners? [00:48:00] Speaker A: Winners have been knocked down for a while. Oh, yeah, they knocked that, and they knocked that down and remodeled it back in January. They started. So it's about to be done. So that stretches. [00:48:09] Speaker B: Not a midtown girl anymore. [00:48:11] Speaker A: You're not a middle. [00:48:12] Speaker B: No, I used to be. [00:48:13] Speaker A: I feel like midtown is easier to handle than Broadway. [00:48:16] Speaker B: It is. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Are you more. I mean, you're an east. Okay. All right. You're cool enough. See, I don't think I'm cool enough for. You are. I don't know if I'm cool enough. I'm cool enough to hang out at dukes, you know, like, I don't hang out at. Dude, where do you hang out? Where's the cool spot in east? Where do I go? I go to smokers, Abby. I'm a big cigar guy. [00:48:32] Speaker B: Oh, I go to the cigar. [00:48:34] Speaker A: I go to the cigar lounge. [00:48:35] Speaker B: I don't know, there's attaboys. Really cool. [00:48:37] Speaker A: It's like, oh, yeah, the speakeasy. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Yeah, Englewood lounge is cool. There's place called Shulman's. [00:48:45] Speaker A: It's cool. I've heard about Shulman. [00:48:47] Speaker B: Yeah, there's one, there's a new one that I haven't been to yet that everyone likes. Is it called like Roy's or something, boys Royce? Yeah, everyone likes. I don't like the outside of it. [00:48:56] Speaker A: So I like going to Lakeside when I'm going to a show at basement. [00:48:59] Speaker B: Like a lakeside, I like a lakeside. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Night or a lakeside pregame before a show at the basement. Or I like going to up, down, not the wall gl song. The arcade with the shitty pizza barcade. See, I like the arcades. They're fun. [00:49:13] Speaker B: I've never been to one. [00:49:14] Speaker A: I get a little high going, the arcade, I have a fucking ball. And then I go into a show. [00:49:18] Speaker B: And boy, to me, it's like a. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Little trifecta, you know, you go, you go arcade to basement, east to Lakeside. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a, that's a trifecta. [00:49:26] Speaker A: That's a little trip. [00:49:26] Speaker B: And then. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Are you more of a. So you're more of a red door east girl? [00:49:30] Speaker B: No, I actually don't. I know I would. I was a red door midtown girl. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I was a red town. Red door. Red town. Red door midtown boy, for a long time. I still pop in there every now. [00:49:42] Speaker B: And you have to. [00:49:44] Speaker A: You have to. Especially for us. And it's like, that's how you find. Because there's new people moving here every day. Oh, yeah, there's new classes that come in. [00:49:51] Speaker B: My last time I was at Red Door was with my friend Jordan. And she's like, she's like fully a mom, but like, just goes hard sometimes. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Rupee to float shots. [00:50:02] Speaker B: No, like, I don't even know what we were drinking. Oh, it was a. It was before. It was the last time the CMT awards were. Or was it the CMA? It wasn't CMA. [00:50:15] Speaker A: CMAs were in the fall, so I. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Was like November, but it was like. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Like, CMT is during CMA fest. [00:50:21] Speaker B: I know, but it was, like, in Nashville, it was either CMA or CMT. I don't. I don't remember. But it was, like, maybe almost two years ago now. And, like, she. I went with her and, like, didn't know that the drinks, I was. And I'm not, like, a drinker. Like, I drink, like, two drinks and I'm drunk, so I, like, really have, like, chill. [00:50:39] Speaker A: You're gonna love that for. [00:50:40] Speaker B: No, I know. I was like, I can't drink on this podcast because I will get drunk. But I didn't realize that the drinks, I think we were at Bridgestone, I didn't realize they were double. And so I was just, like, vodka cranberrying it up, but they were doubles, and she didn't tell me that. And so then, like, it just. We just ended up at red door. And, like, I was so drunk, and, like, I had never looked through, like, the hole in the ground. [00:51:02] Speaker A: Oh. That's the first thing I did when I went to that bar six years ago, is look through the hole and see what's. [00:51:06] Speaker B: It was probably just because I was so wasted every time I was there. I didn't realize you to look in the hole and then there's, like, a video of me, like, on the ground. I'm like, ew, why am I on the, like, no one told you to get on the ground to look like. [00:51:20] Speaker A: You gotta get a good look. You gotta get down there, lay down and look. [00:51:23] Speaker B: No, that is disgusting. And, like, okay, well, I did it. And she, like, it was so fucking funny. It was like, it was just a bunch of us. And, like, she ordered, like, a $100 worth of taco bell to red door, which, like, a taco bell is, like, so much Taco Bell. And it was just, like, I was so wasted, and I just, like, popped in, and there's just, like, out on the patio, like, Taco Bell everywhere. And I was like, this a dream. Like, this is hilarious. Anyways, red door, midtown is the way to go. But what am I talking about? I don't know. [00:51:55] Speaker A: We talked about how you like to hang out in east. [00:51:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I just feel like at this point in my life, I'm more of an East Nashville girl. But I also. Britney lives in Germantown, and I like. What's the place in Germantown? [00:52:12] Speaker A: Neighbors? [00:52:13] Speaker B: No. [00:52:14] Speaker A: Well, they have neighbors everywhere. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Just Germantown in general. I like a german town moment, too. Yeah. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Nice. [00:52:18] Speaker B: There's great places. [00:52:19] Speaker A: Yeah, there are lots of. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Lots of good, fun times. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Well, I appreciate you coming on. I appreciate fun to meet you. Let's definitely talk about a pony show, raise rowdy collab. That could be a lot of fun. Even if it's not that you and your homies just want to come play. Yeah, we would love to have you, but where do people go to find you on all the social medias? [00:52:37] Speaker B: Um, social media? I think I'm locked out of my twitter, so don't follow me on Twitter or x or whatever. I'm not calling it x. It's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Good. TikTok. Abby cone. A b b e y c o n e. Like an ice cream cone. Spotify, apple, Amazon. All the streaming. Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:52:59] Speaker A: Awesome. Well, I appreciate you coming out. [00:53:02] Speaker B: Thanks for having me. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Absolutely. Guys, be sure to check out our girl Abby cone. Like she said, I hate Springsteen is out now. More music coming before the end of the year. And you guys make sure you check out her stuff on the socials and shout out to our friends from Surfside. Surfside vodka. You pass me that little box right there. Surfside vodka. Iced tea. Iced tea. Vodka. They are crushable. Go surfing with us. Abby's gonna take these home and these four pack. [00:53:28] Speaker B: I'm gonna drink a while with two of these. And, oh, they're. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Oh, and they're not carbonated, so they're there. [00:53:33] Speaker B: Me and Brittany might drink. [00:53:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, enjoy them, please. And then I and y'all be sure to visit raiserade.com for more on us. Like rate, subscribe, tell your mom. And then for my girl Abby, I'm Matt Barrel. This has been outside. I ain't never been the kind for stiff one place for too long? I ain't never been the best at sin? I love you to a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me, if you really know me? You know I'm just a two trick pony? Then maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show, I'm just a two trick on it.

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