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Speaker 0 00:01:13 Well, my dude, how the hell are you doing? Wyatt Flores? Um, this is a cool full circle moment cause I remember meeting you in your hometown, Stillwater, Oklahoma, one of my favorite venues in the country, tumbleweed. And I remember you opening like, um, I remember Carrie, I was t Ming for Trey at the time, bro. And I remember Carrie being like, Hey, we got this kid, his name's Wyatt and local kid hasn't played much, but we're gonna throw him out. I think he's gonna be the the next one out of Oklahoma. And you got up there and you was like, this kid's pretty good. And now you're fucking doing the damn thing, my dude. So how the fuck you been? Things are good.
Speaker 3 00:01:47 Things have been amazing. Just absolutely a ball.
Speaker 0 00:01:51 Where have you been the past, like the, this last weekend were you on the road this past weekend?
Speaker 3 00:01:54 Uh, this last weekend I decided to take a fun little trip and just hop in the van and go watch my buddy Andrew Sevener play some shows. And
Speaker 0 00:02:01 Dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 00:02:02 Yeah, just acted like his manager over the weekend.
Speaker 0 00:02:05 So what, what were you, what, what does manager Wyatt Flores like, like what were you kind of doing?
Speaker 3 00:02:09 Oh man, I love it. I'm like, uh, the band needs more beer. More beer and more beer <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:02:14 And you're the one drinking the beer. More beers are for management. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:02:17 That's third more beer is for me. That's
Speaker 0 00:02:20 That's your 10% right there? Oh yeah, 10, 10% of all beer provide 10% of the rider. That's, that's the manage why Floors
Speaker 3 00:02:26 Money. Uh, don't need that. Where
Speaker 0 00:02:28 Was, where were the shows at?
Speaker 3 00:02:30 Uh, the shows were all in Burl Burleson in Alverado, Texas.
Speaker 0 00:02:34 Okay, sweet. So how long of a drive is that to go out there and see a buddy play?
Speaker 3 00:02:38 Uh, 10 hours, but I was with the band, so
Speaker 0 00:02:41 Oh, so you went, you just rode out with them and stuff? Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:02:43 So we share bands and uh Oh cool. And so I just hopped in the back seat and I was like, I don't have to drive <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:02:51 That's kind of what, like this, this weekend coming up. So I've, I used to be on the road with Trey and that's how you and I met. I haven't been out in the road because I've been doing this raised, rowdy thing and outside the round and all that. But I'm going out with Trey next week and it's gonna be weird to be out, out on the road and not be a merch guy or a tour manager. Like, I'm so looking forward to it. Just sit back, not have to worry about as much shit. Do
Speaker 3 00:03:13 You think that you can like, take your hat off of playing those roles?
Speaker 0 00:03:18 That's, that's gonna be interesting to see cuz Trey's got a really good, a really good tour manager that, um, that came in when I, when I left out Josiah, who's like very with it and very, very organized and stuff. But it's gonna be, and and the band's a little bit different now than it was, than it was when I was with him. So, um, cuz they, they've made some changes, but it's, but I'm interested to see what it's gonna be like to be on and we're on a bus, so I'm like, now I don't have to worry about the bus driver, which Danny, the bus driver that Trey had, um, his name's Danny's from Arkansas. He's about five foot five, 270 pounds. 70. Well ain't that so he always goes, will, ain't that something <laugh>? And it's this little chubby dude from Arkansas. You can, I I can barely understand the word he says cuz he's so country. Oh, no kidding. And he talks about his grandkids and his great-grandkids. One of the things I did for him was I made him a Spotify playlist and I downloaded Spotify on his, on his, um, Android phone. And since I've left, apparently he hasn't had Spotify going and the radio doesn't work. So he's just driving a bus with no sound.
Speaker 3 00:04:20 Like not even a podcast playing nothing,
Speaker 0 00:04:23 Nothing. He doesn't know how to work audio. So I'm, look, that'll probably be my one big job. I mean, I'm gonna be getting some like content like interviewing fans and like doing shit like that. But one of my big roles I think is gonna be to make sure Danny has some music to listen to. Yeah, no kidding. And I'm gonna put Wyatt Floors right at the top of the list. Well, thank you <laugh>. I'm gonna put losing sleep right at the top and he's gonna be rocking along and shit. He'll be like next to, uh, booty. Booty man. Yeah. You heard, you heard Booty Man by Tim Wilson? I
Speaker 3 00:04:49 Don't believe so.
Speaker 0 00:04:50 So it's like, it's a funny, it's a funny song. It's just, it's just, um, you, you hear a lot of different songs being, especially like being out, being out with Trey. We heard all kinds of like funny random shit. <laugh> and Booty Man was one of em. It's amazing how many times that guy can, I'm actually gonna play it. Right. I'm, I'm popping on him. How long have you been in Nashville now? You've been here what, a year and a half?
Speaker 3 00:05:10 It's coming up on a year right now. I mean, I was coming back and forth for about six months, uh, starting in 2021 Yeah. Of October. And then finally made the move here in June because
Speaker 0 00:05:21 We met Spring of 21. I wanna say it was Spring because it was before calf fry. Yes. To remember them talking about Cat Fried and, and Carrie showing us around and stuff. So that had to be like March or
Speaker 3 00:05:33 April? No, it was April 1st. I don't know how well how I, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty
Speaker 0 00:05:37 Sure it's April 1st. Was that, was that one of your first times playing Tumbleweed?
Speaker 3 00:05:39 Right. That was my first time playing Tumbleweed and then two weeks later traveling Kid came out and that same night was my first time playing full band at Tumbleweed. So it was dude. Yeah, it it was wild. I was freaking out
Speaker 0 00:05:53 And it's like, what are the odds that, that we happen to be out there for that. Like of all the shows you could have opened for it Happens to Be To Be Us. And that was one of the first shows that they had done coming out of Covid. Yeah. Which was really cool too.
Speaker 3 00:06:06 Oh yeah. I'll never forget coming up to you and meeting you at the merch stand and then you were asking me all sorts of questions about like how many songs I got and I was like, well I got one. And then I'm working on like another <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:06:18 I know all the turnpike songs. I can
Speaker 3 00:06:19 Play plenty. Yeah, you can play turnpike all day long cover band for sure.
Speaker 0 00:06:23 What, where were your gigs at before that? Like what kind of, was it like the, the Mexican restaurant scene? Do you guys have that at like what's, what's the up and coming scene in like, where do you start playing music in Oklahoma? Cause like in the south it's like barbecue joints and Mexican restaurants and I, I came up singing in church. I don't know what it's like in Oklahoma. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:06:40 Well I mean yeah, a lot of, a lot of people, you know the whole ch church scene. Yes. But uh, uh, I mean, yeah, you can go play the restaurants and everything like that For me, I kind of got in, um, with a, another buddy of mine, Wyatt Baker, who's putting out music just now. If you get the chance, listen. Yeah,
Speaker 0 00:06:58 Absolutely.
Speaker 3 00:06:58 Uh, but I was in his band, like in college, which was only one semester I was playing bass for him and then opening up for 45 minutes and we played all over northeast Oklahoma, so the Tulsa area very heavily and then wherever we could get other gigs. But it was mostly up in that area. And then as soon as that band kind of broke up and I went solo after I dropped outta college, I just had so many connections working through there and then people would reach out and you'd play little tiny bars. I mean, I wasn't supposed to be in there at all. I real bad. I didn't sign a lot of affidavits, <laugh> <laugh>. But uh, yeah, I mean you just keep playing and, and you just gotta be good at networking and it's a real tough scene sometimes cuz Oklahomans, it's not that they don't care, but you really have to win them over for them to show any sign of like, oh yeah, this kid's good or they have to be really drunk and then they'll tell you how they feel. But like other places I've watched like Kentucky and, and, and been up to some of those festivals and and they are there for the music. Yeah. Like, it, it's, it's just different how things work. You gotta really work the crowd to try and get something.
Speaker 0 00:08:07 Yeah. That was something I first saw when I, when I first started going out to Texas. Uh, back when I was working with the musket on Bloodline guys, that was my introduction to Texas and I remember going into a dance hall for the first time and being like, why aren't people in front of the stage? And then the man then the band starts and then they all Yeah. Move out there in pairs and they're twirling around. I'm like, oh, it's really a dance hall. It's not, it's it's not the the like the rock show vibe where it's, where it's people rushing in getting to the front of the stage kind of vibe. Yeah. Which was, which is something that a lot of, a lot of folks coming out of the, the East coast or, or the southeast, it's just such a different vibe for us. It's, when we go out there, it's intimidating cuz it's like how do you win these people over
Speaker 3 00:08:49 Because they're there to dance. I
Speaker 0 00:08:51 Mean Yeah. They, they don't care who's playing. They're there to dance. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:08:53 Which was always a, a struggle for me because my, my songs are not really so much Two step, you know? Yeah. They're, they're, I'm here to spread a message, I guess. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know what you want me to do. I I don't have any dancing songs. <laugh>, but, but
Speaker 0 00:09:08 There's, but I feel like right now is the time when that, that in Red Dirt, it's, I mean you look back to like the godfathers of like, of cross Canadian ragweed Yeah. And, and that style and how it's, how it's been spread down to, to guys like co wetzel to guys like, um, guys like Zach Bryan to, to what you're doing right now. Yeah. Like there is this, this style where it's, it's, Hey, I'm, I'm from, I'm from the lower mid, I'm from Red Dirt Country, but I don't wanna dance. I don't wanna wear a cowboy hat. I wanna fucking, I wanna rock and I wanna sing about some real shit. Yeah. That people are gonna relate to from where I'm from.
Speaker 3 00:09:41 And, and I can't believe that it's actually working. Cuz I was scared. I was like, these people are going to hate this because it's slow or they're not, you know, it's, it's a different kind of style. I have so many styles and none of them stay the same. But that's why losing sleep works so heavily in that market is because it's like, you know, the Alabama Cross Canadian ragweed kind of rock and roll and, and the story is good, but they're there for the course. They love it, but everything else is kinda like, I don't know if I like this quite yet, but also it's not out yet. So that could be it. But it's uh, it's a, it's really crazy how things are way different in different areas. Like, that's been the weirdest thing for me. Cuz Oklahoma, that's all I ever knew. And then you step outside and it's like, oh, people actually like this other style of music in different areas and, and it, it's, I don't know, it's just weird the way the landscape works out
Speaker 0 00:10:36 The the amount Now who's your, who's your agency for, for
Speaker 3 00:10:39 Booking? So for booking it's, uh, caa. Oh
Speaker 0 00:10:41 Fuck yeah, that's where Trey's at too. We got a lot. Oh heck yeah, we got a lot. We got a lot of good friends over there. Um, but they have had you in all corners of the country. Like I've just from, from following on, I remember you first move into town and I remember seeing you doing those showcase shows at the basement. I remember you popping by Live Oak and doing some of those, some of those Pickle Jar shows and doing, doing some rounds or just kind of like hanging out networking. And then it seemed like all of a sudden you were just Oh shit. Wyatt's in California. Yeah. Oh shit. Oh yeah. Why Wyatt's in Seattle? Oh shit. He's in, he's in Michigan. Oh. He's, he's in New York City. I'm like, damn. They're, they're sending you all over the place. So you've gotten to see most of the country now at such a young age and so early into your musical journey. What's that all kind of been like, aside from you realizing that there are different things than, than the Oklahoma red dirt scene?
Speaker 3 00:11:30 It has been absolutely wild. I thought I was gonna hate New York City and uh, it's by far my favorite place. Let's go. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:11:36 New York, let's go.
Speaker 3 00:11:38 Uh, LA was, it was kind of like a whoa <laugh>, but yeah, from, from, you know, trying to do something and then all of a sudden the next thing you know, it's like, Hey, we leave for New York tomorrow. And it was like, what? And then two weeks later we're in LA and then I, I don't even know. Florida and everywhere else, it's, that's all I've ever wanted to do. But, but to be able to say that you can do that, it, it's uh, it's still like unreal for me. Like, it, it's scary. It's like scary cuz I don't even wanna look at Master Tour cuz I'm like, oh man, we're fixing to go see The Countryside Boys. And it's like dreams are actually coming. True. And it's, it's, I don't know, it's heartwarming but at the same time it's like, how, how did we go from zero to a hundred so fast? Yeah,
Speaker 0 00:12:28 Dude. And that's the, to me, the power of the internet and talking about New York City, what, what makes New York your one of your favorite places?
Speaker 3 00:12:35 Uh, people watching is fun. Oh dude. Yes. Like I haven't had the full opportunity to sit down, people watch from a window and just write songs like come up with stories for people. Like that's my next thing when I go out to New York is that that's all I'm gonna do for a full day,
Speaker 0 00:12:51 Bro. You gotta go and sit in, um, outside near NYU and I think, I think it's Bryant Park or like there, there's like central, there's all the different parks there. Yeah. You gotta just sit on a bench and just observe what is going on around you in New York City. Cuz you'll see all walks of life. Literally every culture in the world is represented on that 13 mile island. Yeah. It's insane. It's, it's so chaotic. Did you get some, some good food when you were up there? I figured they fed you well. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:13:20 Plenty of great places to eat. I don't really know the names of them because they get really creative with their names and
Speaker 0 00:13:25 Well yeah, cuz it's different cultures. Oh yeah. It's not, it's not John Smith's barbecue joint <laugh>. It's, it's reci something. And then you've got like Jamaican food and, and Indian food and Asian, like, we have different sections of the, and what's crazy is that the city is only like 11 or 13 miles. It doesn't make any sense. And there's, and there's nine, 9.8 million people along those, those that little stretch of islands. Whereas like 13 miles in Oklahoma's. Nothing <laugh> like that. That's like some people's closest neighbors <laugh>. So it's like, for you to be in there, did you get some pizza and shit? Oh yeah, like bagels and
Speaker 3 00:13:58 I, I don't think I've had a bagel there yet. I, I keep missing out. I don't think to do so that way I have a reason to go back. But, uh, yeah.
Speaker 0 00:14:05 Well I feel like your music is gonna be the reason you go back cause people want to see it. Now. Did was that just meetings and stuff you were up there for? Was that Yeah. Or was that a show?
Speaker 3 00:14:12 So, uh, well, anytime that I'm going somewhere, I always like to just play some random spot and go TikTok live or, well, well
Speaker 0 00:14:19 Did you, did you play in New York? Like did you play a show in New York or was it No. Was it for meetings or what were you doing up there?
Speaker 3 00:14:24 Uh, I was out there for, uh, for label meetings. Okay. So went out there for label meetings, then LA and then San Francisco. And uh, yeah, I, I still had a ball just seeing everything. But we did play, uh, live at Times Square and then some kid just showed up and I was like, oh yeah, he is gonna ask me to play something like, I don't know, Luke Combs or Morgan Wallen. And, and then he is like, Hey, uh, can I make a request? And I, I was like, go for it man. And he goes losing sleep. And I just about lost it. I was like, there's no way someone's out here from New York City listening to me and he just hopped in a cab. And then Medicine Times Square is the wildest thing ever. It looks staged.
Speaker 0 00:15:05 Yeah. But that's, that's how it works, man. Yeah, that's how, that's how it works. Is it weird being you come from Oklahoma, you moved to Nashville and then it's like label meetings, but instead of going to 16th Ave they're sending you all over the country. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:15:18 It's, it's weird. It was like, oh yeah, this is normal. You know, I know Music Row, we can go down there and then they're like, oh yeah, we're also going to New York. And I was like, what,
Speaker 0 00:15:28 What was San Francisco like? Cause I, I've heard that San Fran is its own, it is just a wild, there's just Northern California is a weird place right now. Uh, there's good people up there, but it's just a, it just seems like it's just not, not the vibe right now. Well
Speaker 3 00:15:43 It, it, uh, it was an eyeopener. It was a, uh, you know, the Tenderloin ended up having an Uber drive straight through that. And I don't know if you know what the Tenderloin is.
Speaker 0 00:15:53 No, I've, I smoked a cigar that's referred to as a pork tenderloin tattoo cigar last night that was in, that's in like, like butcher paper. But I've never, like I've, I've, I've had plenty of, of pork tenderloins or beef tenderloins. But what's, what's the,
Speaker 3 00:16:06 The tenderloin is not very tender. It's actually the sketchiest part of the city and the Uber ended up taking it straight through it. And I've never seen like people just doing drugs on the sidewalks and just passed out. Just, it is just an awful area and it, it's sad to see it. And then we get back to the hotel and we disperse. I had Brayden and Tyler, which are my managers. Yeah, they, uh, we all split off and then I get a phone call five minutes into being in my hotel room and he go, my manager goes, are you in or are you out? And I was like, what the hell are you talking about? And he goes, are you in or are you out? And I was like, I guess I'm in. And he goes, all right, come to my room right now. I need your help.
Speaker 3 00:16:49 Someone's trying to jump off the roof from the other side. And it, I was like, you gotta be kidding me right now. And he goes, no, not at all. And then come to his room, he's already had time to go downstairs, ask the, uh, you know, the front desk lady, Hey, I need to figure out what building that is. Can you tell me what it is? Because someone's trying to jump right now and they just don't care. Then he goes out to where the valet is and they wouldn't help 'em either. Wow. Like it's so casual over there. Like no one cares. And, uh, go back up to the hotel room and, and he had finally figured out what building it was. He called the cops and it took them forever to get over there, but when they did, they blocked off the street and it was a guy that would keep running up the stairs of the building and the girl would keep trying to pull him back, she'd tackle him, pull 'em back down the stairs. And then it was sad to watch cuz they were hitting each other. Yeah. Like full on fist punching and then Yeah. It's just, they'd be screaming and, and, and finally we waited forever and it was getting to the point where it was like, this guy's getting closer and closer to making it up those stairs. And then you see all the flashlights come up on the other side of the building and it's the cops and the fire department. And I don't know, it was,
Speaker 0 00:18:09 What do you think it is? Is it, is it drugs? Is it just, is it just an area that's kind of just lost its way? I mean,
Speaker 3 00:18:16 I think, uh, I think there's no sympathy. You know, no one, no one has time to feel bad about other people's problems out there is, is what I felt like it was. Yeah. Uh, I mean it could have been the drugs over there. I mean it's just a, it's a hard, a way different culture and a harder life in, in some aspects of, of, of being more personalized. Like down in the south we all care about each other. Yeah. We'll help anyone that like, I don't know why that
Speaker 0 00:18:45 Is, but Tennessee is the volunteer state for a reason.
Speaker 3 00:18:47 Yeah. And, and go out there and everyone's like, oh yeah, another person died. And they're just so numb to it. And, and that was just really weird for me to like see with my own eyes, like people not caring that someone's fixing in their life and they're like, yeah, this happens every day.
Speaker 0 00:19:03 Yeah. You're the guy that writes about a lot of real shit. And Oklahoma, there's grew up, I've been to, I've been to been to Tulsa, I've been to Stillwater, I've been to, I think I've been to Norman and then where else? Ola, Oklahoma, I think we went to right. McIlwain, Ola and then Goodwell Goodwill had nothing around it. <laugh>, but, um, but it just seems like the, the guys and girls that come out of there, you guys have lots of stories to tell and some of it's about the bad times. Yeah. Some of it's about the good times, but it seems like the, the the bad times and this, this emotion cuz is it just, cuz there's not a lot to do that you guys have the, the, the time to think about these things and get into an emotional space or what is it about Oklahoma that you have your style of stuff, you have turnpike, you have, you have what, what ragweed did you have? Um, Zach Bryan. Like what is it about Oklahoma? I
Speaker 3 00:19:55 Think there's a lot of good things that come from Oklahoma. We have great food, we got great people. The only thing is, is that through history, it's a sad state. Like trail of Tears, then all of a sudden, you know, you got the land run going on. And then I, the FBI was started like, have you seen Killer of the Flower Moon?
Speaker 0 00:20:17 No, I haven't seen that. What's that?
Speaker 3 00:20:19 I would read the book before the movie comes out with like Leonardo DiCaprio, Sturgill Simpson and Jason Isbell all the
Speaker 0 00:20:24 Movie. Oh shit.
Speaker 3 00:20:25 And it, it's uh, you know, native American history is just, you don't even, like you could scratch the surface and you know, it's just absolute terrible. But like if you really start digging it, it gets worse and worse and worse. Yeah. And, and that's what the state is. I mean the government literally looked at the land and said that's a good place to put 'em because it's, you've seen it. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:20:48 There's nothing,
Speaker 3 00:20:49 There's nothing. There's
Speaker 0 00:20:50 Very little resources.
Speaker 3 00:20:51 And then come to find out there's oil <laugh>. Well, what's the government do then <laugh>, you know, it's just an ongoing cycle and it's still going on today. It's still the Wild West out there in Oklahoma and it's, it's just full of pain and suffering and you know, the dust Bowl and everything else. It's, it's, it's just constant depression, man. Yeah. It, it really is. And, and there's a lot of great things that come outta Oklahoma and, and I think it's because that state is just like growing up in it. There's like this energy there that is like, this place ain't right. Yeah. Like, there's just so much that has gone wrong and, and I think it makes people a lot stronger whenever they know enough, I guess about pain and they're able to, you know, learn from it.
Speaker 0 00:21:38 Yeah. And, and the, the climate there, it's, it's really hot. Y'all get a shit ton of tornadoes. Yep. It's, it's uh, when it rains it, it can flood like you guys have, it's, it's like you said, it's, it's a tough place, but it makes you more resilient. Yes. It makes you hungry. It it creates a character that you don't get in other places. Yeah. Which is, which is something that, that I've, I I see in you, I've, I see that in, in a lot of other, in music people you see that in, in the culture of, of the, in the native culture that's there, you have the mixture of, of literally the the cowboy and the native culture. Yeah. Together. Like for like for you, what, what was it like growing, like you have, do you have some native in you or do you, uh, like what what's your kind of background with all that stuff?
Speaker 3 00:22:24 I don't know if, if I'm, I need to send in one of those tests. I get this question all the time. So I'm like, Mexican, Spanish and then the, the Indian part is either Aztec or Inca somewhere down there. So
Speaker 0 00:22:36 It's that it's native too lower, lower part of North America or Central America.
Speaker 3 00:22:40 Yeah. And, and um, maybe I got Cherokee or something, something along the lines. Um, maybe. But, uh, I, I kind of doubt it. And um, I don't know yet. I need to figure it out. But <laugh> you that the whole like feeling of growing up there is like, you got cowboys all around. I mean that's all I did was farming and ranching, helping other farmers and, and working construction. That's, that's all I've ever been around.
Speaker 0 00:23:07 You worked
Speaker 3 00:23:07 Construction? Oh yeah. I was on a job site when I wouldn't, you know, shouldn't have been cuz of age. It seems like that's an ongoing thing with me is that I shouldn't be in places due to my age, but I somehow end up being there. How
Speaker 0 00:23:20 Old were you on a construction site?
Speaker 3 00:23:22 17. If, well, there's a couple other times where I was a little younger, but it wasn't like any terrible big jobs. It
Speaker 0 00:23:28 Wasn't like, like what, what kind of shit were you doing? What, what kind of construction?
Speaker 3 00:23:32 Uh, I was the grunt. So, you know, you pick up a shovel,
Speaker 0 00:23:35 <laugh>, you just start digging. You
Speaker 3 00:23:36 Just start digging <laugh>. Uh, there's all sorts of stuff. I, I love construction cuz you could look at it and it'd be done, you know, like the day's over and you're like, oh, I did that. Yeah. But this kind of music business is a
Speaker 0 00:23:50 Little, no, it's definitely different. It's not as tangible.
Speaker 3 00:23:54 Yeah. And, and doing that has helped me, you know, just know what an actual hard hards day of work is and then also just learn really bad habits of like, what that lifestyle is. It's like, oh yeah, we smoke cigarettes, uh, we eat gas station food and we run straight off of energy drinks.
Speaker 0 00:24:11 That sounds like touring. That sounds like what I did, what I've done in the music business the last four
Speaker 3 00:24:16 Years. Yeah. It's kind of that. Yeah. Run yourself ragged, you're still breathing, you're fine. And, and doing that. And then also they, uh, I guess my first job was, was doing partial construction and then, uh, helping run the show cattle and then also, uh, just taking care of the rest of the ranch. And then got done there. Started, started working for, um, well basically I view him as my second father. I've been raised with that family all my life and, uh, started planting with him and then just worked that summer. And then after I quit college, I started farming in ranching with another farmer straight north of, uh, Stillwater. And worked there for about a year almost just doing that. And, uh, I was lucky cuz he, he needed so much help and he'd still let me go and run off on the weekends and, and go play shows and
Speaker 0 00:25:09 Pursue your dream. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:25:10 He was like, I think you can do it. And then one day I was like, I gotta go to Nashville. He was like, heck of a deal, Wyatt. Go have fun. And then I was
Speaker 0 00:25:19 Like, heck of a deal. Wyatt.
Speaker 3 00:25:20 Yeah. And then, and then one month later I'm like, Hey, um, I'm gonna have to quit this job <laugh>. And he's like, it's all right son. You go get it.
Speaker 0 00:25:29 <laugh>. What was, what was that guy's name?
Speaker 3 00:25:30 Uh, Doug will.
Speaker 0 00:25:31 Doug will. Yeah. And what, what, what does he, how would you describe it? Like what does he look like? Is he like just that classic old cowboy farm guy? Or is he not as old as you're making him sound? Cause I'm, I'm envisioning like Yosemite Sam old. No,
Speaker 3 00:25:44 No, no, no,
Speaker 0 00:25:45 No, no. Dude being like, all right
Speaker 3 00:25:46 Boy. I mean, I'm trying to remember. He's gotta be in his late fifties, early sixties.
Speaker 0 00:25:51 How'd you get, how'd you get linked up with him? Was it just,
Speaker 3 00:25:53 Was it it was the other farmer, uh, Richard Brats.
Speaker 0 00:25:56 <laugh>. Oh. So he knew, he knew that, that Oh yeah. This guy needed help.
Speaker 3 00:25:59 Yeah. Cuz winter times Richard doesn't need that much. He can all do it himself. Summertime, he's got plenty. But Doug has a way bigger operation and he needs constant help. So, uh, I had plenty of things to do. There's, there's never a time where it was like, well, what should I do now? It was like, oh yeah. There's so many things.
Speaker 0 00:26:19 Yeah. And speaking of all the things that are farmed in Oklahoma, there's lots of states. I'm, so, I'm, I'm, I call myself California, sober California. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a smoker. I had to quit drinking about, about, um, that's seven years ago. Um, but the, um, I still still smoke and I was blown away my first time going to going to Tumbleweed and the pe the folks loading in are like, Hey, do you anybody in here? Anybody in here? Like four 20 friendly? And I was like, me, me, me <laugh> And I did not realize how big of a crop hemp and marijuana are in Oklahoma. Oh yeah. Because I guess cuz it's, I guess it's legal to grow and like medically legal to buy, but it's like, like people just have an abundance of it and it's just tons of people growing pot everywhere.
Speaker 3 00:27:05 Oh yeah. No, as soon as they made it legal, it, I mean just the, the greenhouses start popping up everywhere and then, you know, you get, I I, I probably shouldn't say this part, but I had friends that had, uh, some folks to show up and be like, I wanna buy this property off of you. And they'll show up in duffel bags in a van full of people and they have just straight up bought their house that day. And, and it, I don't know, like I think the government finally figured out we can make some money off of this deal Yeah. By taxing it. And it was like, we might as well, you know? Yeah. And, and as soon as they did that, dispensaries were just popping up out of the ground. I mean I think there was like 23 in Payne County, which is where Stillwater is it. And some of those aren't doing so well, you know, cuz they're created so much competition and Yeah. And it, yeah. Just leveled out the playing field. But yeah, when it first started it went crazy.
Speaker 0 00:28:00 Yeah. Like you said, it's the wild west. Yeah. And it, it stays the wild west because of different things they can introduce there. And one of the latest things is, is marijuana. Yeah. Is that's, there's, it's like the gold rush back in the day. It's like, it's like when folks are moving out west now folks are moving to Oklahoma cuz they know they can grow there and have affordable living and Yeah. Do all that Now, has that, has that like changed the culture out there you think for the, for the better Or is it still Oklahoma? Still Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 00:28:26 It's still Oklahoma. It's still like at first everyone, you know, cuz it's, it's the Bible belt. They're like, man, I don't know about this. You know this. Yeah. Life goes on and no one really cared. It was, I mean honestly it just feels better cuz half the time, you know, you, you get freaked out cuz you got a buddy in the back seat and you're like, you're telling me you have how much on you? And, and now it's like, oh, okay, you got your card, you're fine. And it just kind of eases everything and yeah, it was a smart choice for Oklahoma.
Speaker 0 00:28:56 Yeah. There's worse and there's way worse substances Yeah. That people could be doing than, than smoking some, some green that Bobby Joe up the road is growing, you know,
Speaker 3 00:29:04 <laugh>. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 0 00:29:05 Yeah. We, we have some good, we have a good friend, um, I won't say his name, um, but um, he's a good, good friend of, of ours for being out there with Trey and he makes these gummy bears, um, God bless that is gummy bears <laugh> dude. We, we, we call 'em, we call 'em, uh, we call 'em suicide bears because they, they, they kill you. Like, and I don't mean that in a bad way, but like they, they're, they're like, yay big, but they're like full spectrum. They're 90 milligrams and they're this big, the little baby guys, but they're 90 milligrams full spectrum. He, he sells 'em to, um, to the dispensaries for, for cancer level patients. Oh dang. But he'll, if you go out, if you're playing out there, he'll, he'll just hook it up. He'll hook it up and, and he comes on the bus, he hangs out.
Speaker 0 00:29:48 He, he has a beer. He says, what's up to the guys? I have him side staged during the show. Like just off. Not a liability at all. He's just, yeah. Sitting there drinking cold beer, wants to, wants to smoke up or wants to be smoked up. My part is Trey's Trey's completely sober. He's full straight edge, like been had to get sober at 19 was in into some shit. And he'll, he'll, what, what he'll do is he'll, he'll get the stuff and he'll, he'll bring it, bring it back with him. And then you see people try these bears and they're like, where's this from? And I'm like, it's from Oklahoma. And he'll say, wait, it's not from Colorado or California. This ain't gonna be that. I'm like, oh buddy, you have no idea. This is from Oklahoma. This is some of the best stuff you can possibly get. Like I mentioned, Oklahoma is one of my favorite legal states and it's not even fully legal. Just the stuff that I've had from Oklahoma is just, I put it up there with anything. So it's,
Speaker 3 00:30:38 It's uh, and it's affordable too. Yes. Very Illinois. They, they
Speaker 0 00:30:42 Jack 40% on the dollar dude. Ugh. New York City doesn't even tax it that much. No. We tax everything as shit done
Speaker 3 00:30:49 <laugh>. Yeah. No, it is even, yeah, going to New York, I mean I usually don't talk about this
Speaker 0 00:30:55 Thing, but that was, no dude, it just smells like weed now. Oh yeah. New York City's just a small, there's the big weed cloud. That's what the, and it used to be like in certain neighborhoods it would be like that, but now it's legal and the city's just like you're talking about with San Francisco, it's not quite at that level. But the city's a very different place right now than Yeah. It's been over the last 25, 30 years. Same thing with Philly, same thing with Chicago, same thing with Boston. A lot of those cities are just different places now.
Speaker 3 00:31:21 Yeah. And, and I think it's funny with New York City, cuz I'd be walking on the sidewalk and my manager would bump me and he'd be like, look at that. And there's 10 beautiful college girls just walking by like, look like supermodels. Well get
Speaker 0 00:31:32 Fashion capital of the world, bro. Yeah. All the supermodels live, most of the supermodels live international supermodels. They go to New York before they go to Miami or la Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:31:40 First can imagine you can't see the sun, you know, cuz of the buildings. I can tell you one thing, <laugh>
Speaker 0 00:31:45 Uh,
Speaker 3 00:31:46 But then I'll look over to my right and there's two guys leaning up a parking meter and they're shooting up heroin together. Yeah. And it's like just, I don't know, it's like two different things, but it's a's jungle. Yeah. But you don't feel unsafe, I guess. Or at least in the parts that I've been. Yeah. It's like, oh yeah, he's just doing his thing.
Speaker 0 00:32:03 Yeah. And then what time of the year were you guys there?
Speaker 3 00:32:06 Uh, I was actually just there two weeks ago, one
Speaker 0 00:32:11 Week ago. Okay. So right now's a good time to go. You wait another month or two. That heat, you know, you know, you saw all those trash bags on the ground.
Speaker 3 00:32:18 Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 0 00:32:19 So that those, those trash bags don't get picked up any quicker. There's there's 9 million people there. Yeah, there's, there's, there's a lot of trash to pick up and it gets, it gets, it gets stacked and that heat of the sun going down in the concrete with the trash just creates a scent and an odor that I can only describe as character building. Like we talked about Oklahoma builds character, New York City definitely builds character. And uh, where'd you guys stay when you were, like you said you went to Times Square. Cause I'm, I'm interested cause it's cool to hear you say that you loved New York City. Yeah, yeah. Like, I I love that you like that and there's people in the city that are really into the vibe of music that you're making. Like you go to Brooklyn, you go to the village folk. People don't realize that's where Shooter Jennings really started coming up out of. I did not know that. There's art, there's, there's country artists that were in the, the early days, like I'm talking like early Americana scene, like Billy Block show Americana back in the day, New York City was one of the spots where that was really introduced. And it was within the hipster culture of the eighties and nineties and early two thousands in Brooklyn. I
Speaker 3 00:33:22 Did not
Speaker 0 00:33:22 Know that. So like, there's venues in the city that do the kind of country, they're not, they're not doing the bro country pop country stuff. They, they, they'll do it. Like I saw Dustin Lynch at the, at the PlayStation Theater years ago. Right, right. On Broadway. But there's sections of the city that want to hear the real shit that want the emotion, want Whyt Flores.
Speaker 3 00:33:42 Well it's because it's, they know real shit. Yeah. They see it every single day. I mean, people watching, when you're surrounded in all those cultures, you're gonna see real things. It's not like you just get to live in one little spot. You know, like when you come from the middle of nowhere out in Oklahoma, you don't see so many walks of life. You're like, oh yeah, I know this place and it hasn't changed and it probably won't change. You go out there and you're going to see every walk of life and you'll just, the conversations that you can have out there and it just opens your eyes. And it's like you get to have these connections with people just talking to them and you figure out where they're from and if they're lucky, you know, if you're lucky enough they'll tell you a little bit about where they come from or something, or give you a story to go with and, and to be around that and to just be a sponge and soak all that in. You get to figure out how crazy life is besides just right there in small town, little Oklahoma. There's so much life to this world. It is unbelievable.
Speaker 0 00:34:48 Yeah. And you, you really enjoy writing stories about that, like the, you'd say in the, the peop I've never heard a, a songwriter or or an artist say, and it makes so much sense now people watching and coming up for stories about these people and, and putting it pen to paper and making it a song like that's a j that's, that explains a lot of, of you think about like, like the storytelling of people like Billy Joel and Paul Simon, New York guys from back in the seventies. Yeah. They had to just be looking out their window and, and writing songs about people
Speaker 3 00:35:19 And there it is. Let the imagination run. I mean, that's one way you can do it. Or you, you know, I'd write a whole bunch about life experiences, but yeah. At the same time it's, it's also fun to try and put yourself in someone else's shoes and just walk it.
Speaker 0 00:35:33 Yeah. How has co-writing been for you? Because I feel like there's, like you said, there's not a lot of that. I mean, you, it sounds like you were involved in the music scene in Oklahoma to where you knew other guys and girls that were doing it, but you come out here and it's just songwriters for days.
Speaker 3 00:35:46 Yeah. Uh, it was kind of, I don't know, like I'm, I'm waiting for people to figure out that I don't write every single song by myself. And I'm wondering what that's gonna look like because, you know, it's all the controversial thing of like, oh, well if you got co-writers then you ain't a real songwriter. That's
Speaker 0 00:36:02 Bullshit.
Speaker 3 00:36:03 Yeah. It's like, dude, I love writing with my friends because I have adhd like no other same bro. Yeah. It's, it's bad like sitting by myself like I have to have something smack me. Like my feelings have to be smacked upside the head for me to go. There it is. And then it just comes to me. And that's usually how most of the songs I write by myself happen. But when it comes to co-writing, it's great cuz you get to learn how to write a song. You get to learn other ways that you can write a song. And it's, it's the whole sponge thing. That's all I wanted to do when I got here was learn as much as I possibly could, as fast as I possibly could do it. And, and co-writing is, is it's so eye-opening in its own way of like, you'll have one person that writes a song like this and then you'll have another that goes, no, we're not gonna do it that way.
Speaker 3 00:36:51 We'll do it this way. And, and, and the energy that can be built into a room, it, it's magical like putting a whole bunch of heads together. But I also write differently. I don't walk into a room going, we need a number one hit. I walk in every single time going, what kind of art can we make? Yeah. And, and that's been the funnest part for me. It's like, don't expect this song to just be, you know, the next friends in low places. It's like we're not after that. We're here soul searching for something greater and
Speaker 0 00:37:21 If people like it, great. Yeah. If they don't and we're, and we're confident in what we wrote. Great. Yeah. You know, and songs can have so much life sitting in a catalog too. Like, you think about some songs that have, that have come out. I mean, you look at a guy like Chris Stapleton who spent years as a writer and there's still hundreds of Chris Stapleton songs that, that
Speaker 3 00:37:39 We don't
Speaker 0 00:37:39 Know. We have no idea that are sitting in a catalog that could be huge hits for someone. But you just don't, you just don't know. And the thing about, um, the co like, cuz I feel like that in your com you, you come into Nashville proves that times have changed Yeah. Within the, the Red Dirt scene and, and Nashville. Cuz there's that video back in the day of, of, of, uh, of ragweed singing, singing Boys from Oklahoma and all those, all those guys like Wade Bowen and I forget who else.
Speaker 3 00:38:07 Oh yeah.
Speaker 0 00:38:07 Randy Rogers. Randy Rogers. And they hop up and one of the verses when one of the guys hopped up and, and sang was like singing, there was that rivalry of, of this is Texas and this is Nashville. And nowadays it, it's all so blended together, which is great. And the way it probably should have always been to where you have folks outta the Texas scene that have their business based out of it. You have folks out of Oklahoma and Texas like yourself that have moved here fully and are still touring the scene. And then you have folks from Nashville, like my boy Tyler Halverson going Yeah, yeah. Going, coming South Dakota to college here in Nashville to living being a, being a, a staple of, of that East Nashville early or like this, this generation's Americana western scene to move into a place in Texas with no cell service and learning how to play shows in Texas. There's, it's also blended now. So it's like the perfect time for a guy like you to be coming up. In my opinion.
Speaker 3 00:38:59 It's been very difficult for like, cuz when you're raised that way, it's like you don't want Nashville. You know, that's the way Oklahoma and Texas have always been and screw Nashville. That place is just dog water, this, that, I mean, they could talk shit on it all day. Yeah. But I was like, I'm gonna go see for it myself. And there's parts of that. It depends what you come here looking for, but all that stuff about, oh yeah, well we appreciate our own song around here, all that. And it's like, why are you telling you're lying? You fly out to Nashville. Like, it it baffles my mind. The lies that get told. Yeah. And, and you know, some people are gonna hate me for it, but truthfully it is a lie. Like, I've seen so many people that talk about it and they're like, oh yeah, screw Nashville and screw all those writers and everything else. It's all this. And then they're turning around and coming here Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:39:52 And writing. They're just not telling me and writing songs with the writers.
Speaker 3 00:39:55 Yes. It's like, damn and lied to my face, you know? And, and uh, and that's always been the hardest thing for me to tell people. It's like, yeah, I went to Nashville and I didn't go looking for a record deal or anything. I just came out here to learn
Speaker 0 00:40:11 And be inspired
Speaker 3 00:40:11 And be inspired. Yeah. Like, it was never a goal of mine, you know, to show up and get on radio or anything like that. Like, I've just been doing me and
Speaker 0 00:40:21 It's been working,
Speaker 3 00:40:22 It's been working <laugh>, but, which
Speaker 0 00:40:24 Is beautiful. Yeah. Honestly,
Speaker 3 00:40:26 I, I'm very lucky we all joke around about it in my team and it's like, we're not even supposed to be here. Like, we're just lucky enough to get this opportunity and we're just living our best lives. But, you know, it's, it's, it's just weird how it all played out. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:40:41 How was, um, you got to do, uh, calf Fry this year? Mm. How was that for you as a, as a Stillwater Oklahoma area native?
Speaker 3 00:40:49 Uh, the time slot we had this year, uh, worked out real well. Um, usually the sun's just like blasting you in the eyes and it was cloudy and rainy. And so that was one good thing. But, uh, it, it, it was definitely different this time. Uh, you know, the first time that we played, we were, you know, frantic. We were like, we, we gotta build this show out. And we got two weeks to do it. And it wasn't like I was using Nashville Hot Shots, you know, that just no songs like that. It was like, all right, we're gonna piece some things together and build a show with whatever we have. And, and we did it when we were all nervous and, and got through it this year. It was, it was way different. It was like, I can't wait for y'all to see this show. It's 10 times better than what you've seen four months ago when I played here last time. It's, uh, it's more energetic. We kind of got our things figured out. The band's really coming to becoming a unit, but on the fan spectrum of things, that's where it gets really weird. You got people in the crowd that either, uh, love me because they're one of my friends, or they hate me because they knew me as a kid. And they're like, yeah, I hate this guy <laugh>. He's just a annoying little ADHD running around. Hey,
Speaker 0 00:42:02 Say, honestly our life stories are very similar in that regard.
Speaker 3 00:42:05 And then there's other people, like, I'm like, we definitely pulled a bigger crowd that was our own. And that was so cool because I knew like there was people in the crowd that were actual fans and they didn't know who I was. They only knew my music. They never knew me personally. And, and doing the fan interactions, like went out there and I didn't have much time before Caitlin Butts came on stage, but, uh, the first person that walked up, the girl started bawling and I'm like, uh, you're all right. You know, like trying to help her out and then getting ripped away, you know, like we had to get go because it's rude. It's, it's rude to be out there in the crowd while another artist is playing.
Speaker 0 00:42:45 Agreed. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:42:46 Yeah. And so I, I got ripped away and, and then people were just grabbing onto me and I was like, okay, this is getting real, if it's hitting the hometown like this, because I know plenty of people in this town. It, it's just weird to see
Speaker 0 00:42:59 It. Were were, were there were you're just Wyatt to them. You're not Yeah. You're not this, this this artists that you, that these people that need that they need to meet. Yeah. And they need to get a picture with you're just, you're just white floors. You're the same kid that you were 20 years ago.
Speaker 3 00:43:12 Yeah, exactly. And, and then now it's like, oh, there's actual people in the crowd that are here because of the music.
Speaker 0 00:43:18 Have you headlined inside yet?
Speaker 3 00:43:20 Uh, no. Uh, I, I don't know when we're gonna do that.
Speaker 0 00:43:25 Dude, that is going to be a moment.
Speaker 3 00:43:28 We, uh, I think we sold a thousand tickets last time we were there. Me and old Cam Allen. Have you met Cam Allen?
Speaker 0 00:43:35 I have heard nothing but good things about that guy. Oh, he is great. I have heard from, from a buddy Andrew who's over at, uh, I dunno if you know Andrew, um, Andrew over at c
Speaker 3 00:43:44 Ah,
Speaker 0 00:43:44 Believe I've Metin and Johnny, I was, sorry, go ahead and try to say his last name. Dominic and Johnny. He's, he's an Italian boy by pa. Um, he's, um, a good friend of ours. He's from Pittsburgh and, um, he's over at ca. I remember him being, he's, he's a guy that I talked to be like, he's really good buddy. I remember when he moved to town and he's just busted his ass and started out as a, as an assistant and has risen up now to being an agent over at caa. But one of the things that he would do is come to my round, come to Nikki t's round, go to Little Showcase at the basement. And he was, he's was very early on <laugh>, very early on you. He was like, dude, you got, we're looking at this white floor as kid. I was like, bro, I'm, I met. We exchanged phone numbers like last year at Tumbleweed. Um, but he's been telling me a lot about Cam Allen, like a guy that I need to have in my wheelhouse. Is he another Oklahoma kid?
Speaker 3 00:44:33 Yes. Uh, him and his band are just absolutely phenomenal people and their music is really good. I mean, they're, they're knocking down the doors and they're getting after it. He's got just an amazing voice. I don't know, I don't know if you've gotten to listen to it or see one of his live shows. It's, he's just an, has an angel voice. Like, it's like, how do this kid get so blessed with an amazing voice? It's like, and
Speaker 0 00:44:56 You're and you're doing this
Speaker 3 00:44:57 Shit, your show. I got, I got a bag of gravel back here just floating around. Oh yeah. It, it's, it's, it's awesome to see all of us Oklahomans just kind of making it like JR Carroll started out with him. Yeah. Yep. And heck, I had a phone call with him yesterday of just, isn't it crazy that we started from a lawn chair sitting around playing guitars when you were just 21 years old and I was fixing to turn 19 and, and sitting down in lawn chairs and playing guitars until, you know, three in the morning. And we always talked about making it and we played all those shitty bar gigs together and now we can both say that we're happily living the dream. Like it's just wild.
Speaker 0 00:45:37 And you're still just getting started,
Speaker 3 00:45:38 Still just getting started. Yeah. But
Speaker 0 00:45:40 To have it all come up together and it's, it's cool that you say that because like I talk about, I've talked about it on here a bunch. Like when people move to Nashville and pe other pe you meet other guys and girls that move here around the same time. It's like, kind of like your, your class almost. But you guys have that within the, the Oklahoma red dirt scene as well. Yeah. Of guys and girls that get started. Like you look at, at back in the day with the, the co wezel Parker McCollum, those guys, people don't realize those two used to used to tour together. Oh yeah. In a van or in a car for ye they did that shit for years, you know, and you look at, look at like, like the, the generation that's come after that with like Pacus and Colby and um, and Dylan Wheeler and people like that. But now there's this, this resurgence of folks, kids outta Oklahoma and kids a little bit further up north, out of South Dakota, out of Idaho, out of Washington. Like there's just this western movement going on right now. Yeah. And it's like western mixed with a little bit of rock mixed with some elements of two thousands country. Like, it's, it's such a, such a cool blend of shit that you kids are all creating, like how old are you, you're what?
Speaker 3 00:46:48 Uh, 21? Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:46:49 You're fucking baby <laugh>. I'm 20. I'm, I'm, I'm the damn baby. There's all these, all these kids coming up right now. There's, there's under, there's a group of, of folks and it's all different styles of within the country spectrum that are like 23, 24 and under that are just about to, they're just kick. You guys are just kicking the door down. It's
Speaker 3 00:47:10 Just a new era, man. It's weird.
Speaker 0 00:47:11 It's exciting.
Speaker 3 00:47:12 It, it's exciting. But like, it's weird for me to just like,
Speaker 0 00:47:15 Be a part of it.
Speaker 3 00:47:15 Like Yeah. It's like, oh yeah, I guess I'm in that circle. Or, you know, like you, I, you look up at the red dirt stuff and you see all those guys and you're like, those were the godfathers of red dirt. And it's like, what era am I being a part of right now? Cuz I, I guess I'm a, like, it's just mind blowing for me. Well,
Speaker 0 00:47:33 The way I kind of describe it, and I've, I've, I'm gonna probably do like a video on it, so I'm, uh, like doing the race rowdy thing. We're doing a lot more like personality stuff and Yeah. And whatnot. I used to be a radio dj. That's how I got my start was being a radio country radio DJ in New Jersey. Heck yeah. Was how I got my start and I moved down here and all that. Um, but the way I've kind of looked like stepping back and looking at it, it's like you look at like the eighties and nineties, like the transition of rock. You have like hair metal, like sex, drugs and rock and roll. Then you get into grunge. Yeah. And it's people singing about like very emotional shit. There's still the drugs in the rock and roll, probably still the sex too in some regard, <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:48:14 But it's, it's not this like glamorous thing. It's singing. Yeah. It's the, the other end of that spectrum. And it's huge when you, when you go from, from Motley Crue and Guns N Roses and, and Whitesnake to Nirvana and Allison chains and, and freaking like, like Pearl Jam and that style. Yeah. And I feel like country music's going through that, right. Right now, now I feel like it's the end of the bro country era. It's the end of, of, of Daisy Dukes and, and tailgates and, and beer and singing about the happiness that's in the country lifestyle. And there is a lot of happiness there. There's a lot of cool stuff about growing up small town, but there is, but there's a lot of bad stuff about growing up small town too. And there's a lot of emotion and people have been through a lot of shit, especially over the last few years coming outta the pandemic and different things going on with, with society and whatever. And you have folks singing about real shit. And that's what it seems like what you're doing.
Speaker 3 00:49:11 It's, it's definitely like, for me, I feel like after Covid hit, that's when people like woke up and was like, I'm not okay. Like, this is not okay. This is not a, a way to, uh, fake happiness. You know? You can only do it for so long. And I, I really feel like the Covid had a huge impact on how people view the world and, and got in touch with themselves. And it's like, oh yeah. Life is not all happy. Yeah. And I can't just be listening to the white noise or that's coming through this radio right now. Like, I need something that actually tells me what's going on in my life and I need something to connect to.
Speaker 0 00:49:47 Yeah. And you see it in, you see it in Pop with like the, with the sad stuff that comes outta that with, with the Billie Eilish of the world and that. And then you've, you've got this, this, this sad boy farm emo like, just, just angsty. This is how we feel. We're we're gonna cuss. We might not have the, the quote unquote best country voice, but it's gonna be something distinct. When, when you hear Zack Bryan saying, you know, it's Zach fucking Right? Oh yeah. When you hear Wyatt Flores saying, you hear Tyler Halverson sing, when you, when you hear Sam Barber sing, when you hear Colby Uff, like there's,
Speaker 3 00:50:20 You know, it, you
Speaker 0 00:50:21 Know it, it's distinct as fuck. And it's, and it's real stuff. It's not, you can't like, like that famous video, I think it was Grady Grady Smith that did it back in the day, that famous video where they took all the songs and put it over the one beat that you ever see that Uhuh Snapchat, what was it Snapchat? Was that Grady? Matt? Yeah, that was Grady. So all it was pre it was, I forget what year it was. That had to be like 2014. Hey, that's,
Speaker 4 00:50:44 That's, oh yeah, that's like
Speaker 0 00:50:45 20 15, 20 15, 16, something like that. So they took, like, he took like all a bunch of number ones from that year, and you could put it over the same snap track. And it was, and it was like all this, but it, but I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. It was the same group of guys writing them, the same group of guys producing 'em. So it makes sense. Yeah. It's a sound. It's, it's an era. Fgl had created a, created an era and a sound, but that, that era just seems and it's still there. Yeah. We, we have, we have, we know guys and girls that are in that pop vein that, that we love and are doing art and doing it their way. But there's just this, this feeling of like, what, like Charles Wesley Godwin, for example, and you've gotten to do some shows with him, right.
Speaker 3 00:51:23 Fixing to fixing to a two week run in California with him.
Speaker 0 00:51:26 That's gonna be so fucking cool. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:51:28 No idea.
Speaker 0 00:51:29 Who would've thought a, a small town guy from West Virginia, from the Hollerer with a small town guy from literally one of the smallest towns you can come from outside of Stillwater, Oklahoma together on the west coast. Yeah. Playing. I would've assumed that those tickets are probably moving. It's probably close to sold that if it isn't already.
Speaker 3 00:51:45 I haven't checked it, but I'm, cause
Speaker 0 00:51:46 Charles is, Charles is moving, moving tickets. And you've got, you've already been out on the West Coast, so you've been to some of the places that you're going, but it's, there's, and you, you see it with girls too. Like, there's, there's some females that are coming up that have that kind of sad sound Yeah. As well, even on the pop spectrum, like Meg Marone's singing about Sad shit. The Girl in the Mirror. Yeah. That's a fucking real ass song. And we be, we bet her on the pod and our, and it's, there's just this, this cool thing going on with, with you guys and girls that are crazy. Especially like I said, the, the 24 25 and under. And I'm really excited to see where it, where it's at five. Can you imagine where it's six months from now? But yeah, like five years from now where the scene is at.
Speaker 3 00:52:30 It's, uh, I'm wondering if it'll, if it'll do something to where we push the limits so far and in 10 years it changes again. You know, like, like everything has its movement. You have the nineties, you got the two thousands and then the 2010s, you know, or teens, I guess I don't, I don't know how you <laugh>. Yeah, yeah. However you wanna do that. But 20,
Speaker 0 00:52:50 2010s. 2010s, 2010s. 2010s. 2010s.
Speaker 3 00:52:52 And, and, and I, I definitely think be another movement. I feel like there's gonna be this movement that happens for the next 10 years. And then at some point we're gonna push a limit to where it's like, all right times aren't as bad anymore. We still love these songs, we're still gonna take some of these with us. But now it's time for the new movement and it'll be, you know, happier songs. I just, I just hope that it doesn't fall in the same pocket of, you know, the Snapchats thing. Cuz that is so true. It really is. And it's like, we still need those happy songs. Like I love like, uh, Keith Urban's, like early,
Speaker 0 00:53:27 Early stuff.
Speaker 3 00:53:28 Oh. Like, uh, what is that song with the black
Speaker 0 00:53:32 Love? Somebody like You? Yeah, dude. Yeah. I was listening. So, um, my, uh, my girlfriend, she's a few years older than me. She's 35 and she was playing some like old Keith Urban, but did you know Keith Urban was in a, was like a front man in a band. No kidding. So I forget what it was called. McWell again, showing his age. He's over 32. Hes old. He's old motherfuckering. It's twenties like us.
Speaker 5 00:53:54 I'll, I'll be 33 here coming
Speaker 0 00:53:55 Up. Yeah, he was, what was the, you remember what the band was called? Mac? I don't
Speaker 5 00:53:58 Remember the band, but I remember, um, he had some, I remember they did. Um, so he got his star. It is weird we're talking about this. Cause the guy we had on Trey's podcast yesterday, he, he, his big inspiration is, uh,
Speaker 0 00:54:12 Keith Urban. Yeah, Peyton Smith, right? Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 5 00:54:14 Yeah. He, um, but no, Keith got discovered playing in a bar band from Brooks and Dunn. Um, I think it, uh, kicks Brooks sat on the floor and watched Keith play at, I I wanna say it was in Oklahoma
Speaker 0 00:54:31 Actually. Yeah, it might've been, might have been in Oklahoma. Imagine. Or was it, it was that Kanes or something. Oh, that'd be very much, man. That'd be, that'd be very funny. So
Speaker 5 00:54:38 It is wild. It's wild to hear. Um, I, I did, I did have a question. So like, uh,
Speaker 0 00:54:44 You've got sweet, you've got a still slightly buzzed, definitely hungover. Matt McLin ask you a question, why Flos? That's a big accomplishment. Alright. Question from the studio audience. It was,
Speaker 5 00:54:55 Um, no, no. Uh, I, I always come into these things. I, I was talking to somebody last night. I was like, I I I've ran into you several times, uh, I think here in town, and I, I wanna say we've, we've also met in Oklahoma at one point, um, where like when you, when you, when you talk about the, the Snapchat thing and you're talking about this new era of stuff that's coming, like, there's always these, um, different classes of like the next thing that's coming. I think it's just a wild west at this point. And it's like, it's like, where, where do you see the next I I don't, I don't like, I see it just going from, um, the, from what it was to now it's like everybody's doing this. Like, it, it doesn't matter anymore type deal. It's like, cuz like Meg Maroni, like, I mean hell, we, we talked about her and like it's, um, damn, I'm going on a rant on this,
Speaker 0 00:55:54 But, uh oh, sweet boy. This the sweet, the sweet. This is, this is, I know how to ask a question. <laugh> take a break to
Speaker 5 00:56:00 Spit. I get, yeah, I get longwinded, but, uh, <laugh>,
Speaker 0 00:56:06 But yes, but yeah. What? There's no boundaries. I'm with you McElroy. There's no,
Speaker 3 00:56:10 I think that represents a lot of the way things are now. Yeah. Like if you really want to think about it, the attention span that my generation has is so low that it's come to the point where it's like you have to have all these options. You need that. That's why this this new scene, like you got Evan Honer, he's doing like the folk John Prine thing, but he's from the California region and he has a different style that he plays. And then you got, you know, the Cole Cheneys of the world that are doing that. Bluegrass.
Speaker 0 00:56:38 Well, William Beckman, my other traditional kind of sounding guys. Sounds like the old, the, the original Hank Williams. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:56:43 And, and you have all these options. I mean, freaking 49 Winchester one of my favorite bands, I fucking
Speaker 0 00:56:49 Love those guys.
Speaker 3 00:56:50 Honky Tonk is all get out. Like it's, it's, it's amazing what we can Hey, like all the things that you have there, there's
Speaker 0 00:56:58 A kid I want to, I want you to look up. He played all round the other, the other day. So what I've been doing with these, with these rounds and stuff is I like to have, I like to stick kids together that I think would sound cool together and bond with each other. Yeah. That, especially ones that are new to town. So like we had, um, the other day we had, um, on Tuesday we, I put, um, three, three kids together. Only one of, one of them lives in town. His name's Aiden Canfield. He just moved here. Aiden's a good friend. You know Aiden? Yeah. So Aiden's a really good friend of mine. He's become like, like a little brother figure cuz him and I are both from New York and we're, he is like, wait a second, you're from New York? I'm like, yeah dude. We grew up 15 minutes apart from each other. No kidding. Right outside New York City in the suburbs, <laugh>. And like, they, it's, so I had him play, he moved here on Monday and then there's two kids, Preston Duffy, traditional sound and kid. Um, not quite in the same in that, in that lane like we're talking about, but writing some, writing some real, some real shit. You know, not, not as much the, the, the stereotypical commercial search from South Carolina. There's this other kid, Landon Smith.
Speaker 3 00:57:59 Hold on. Yeah. This name has been brought to my attention multiple times. Yes, yes. Uh, Landon Smith. I have not heard his music. I have someone in my marketing team. The dude is wild,
Speaker 0 00:58:09 Dude. He, he, um,
Speaker 3 00:58:11 Is he 19 years old? Yeah,
Speaker 0 00:58:13 He's 19.
Speaker 3 00:58:14 Yes, I know exactly. You're talking about
Speaker 0 00:58:16 He fucking, um, the other day he has a song called, if You Want Me Tonight, that is already coming up on 2 million Streams on Spotify. Jesus. 19 years old going to the school. He's from Georgia. So you have this sound, you have Aiden doing this. You have like, the Oklahoma, Oklahoma to me is where it kind of came out of. Like where is like Sam Barber's from California, right? I think
Speaker 3 00:58:36 He he's from Missouri. Oh, he's from Missouri, which is originally, and then he moved to Montana.
Speaker 0 00:58:40 Oh, okay. So he's that, that kind of Midwest thing too. Then you have like what, what Turnpike was doing. You have Zach, you have yourself, you have the, the folks, you have Cam, you have the folks coming out of Oklahoma like that, Oklahoma, Texas. Then you have Aiden kind of doing it where it's like a New York kind of like you, you feel the elements of a Bruce Springsteen song mm-hmm. Mixed with this new wave of country stuff. Then you have this Landon Smith kid from Statesboro, Georgia, which Statesboro Georgia. I hope you get to go down there one day. Definitely a different vibe from what you're used to. But to me it's like you can't, it's where Luke Bryan got his start where Colt Windell got his start where Dallas Davidson, that whole era of what country has been the last 15 years came out of that little section where Dylan Marlowe's, hometown, Brian Fuller, Trey Landon, they're, and the list goes on and on of the South Georgia guys and girls that have been coming outta there. And that's where this Landon kid is from. But Landon is singing songs like yours, like Zack's, like Sam's like deep cut,
Speaker 0 00:59:40 Deep cut. He's, he's cussing, he's singing songs about being in a, in a, either he's physically intoxicated or mentally he's just fucked up over something and he's, he's singing it the real way. He's
Speaker 3 00:59:53 Yeah. He's
Speaker 0 00:59:54 Writing the shit like how you're writing it and it's, but it's cool to see that it's not just a regional thing out of Red Dirt country anymore. Yeah. It's coming out of 15 minutes outside of New York City <laugh>. It's coming out of South Georgia, the, the former capital of the bro country movement. Which is why I think it, it really is Yeah. Here to stay because all sections of the country are being inspired by it. Yeah. And it's all young kids coming out of Covid
Speaker 3 01:00:22 And we're all riding the wave. That's the weird part Is that it, we're all this young, like, it's not like a Oh, a couple of us. Like he's 19. So is Sam Bar, well, not anymore, he just had his birthday, but like
Speaker 0 01:00:32 Happy birthday Sam. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:00:33 Yeah. But like <laugh>. But like, how crazy is that, that the, we're all this young and to be writing songs on this level is, is something else too. It's,
Speaker 0 01:00:44 You know, you know who else is really young, but doing it on a, on a commercial scale, but it's again, sad kind of real shit. Look, can't, can't talk about all this. I'm talking about Bailey Zimmerman. Yeah. See, rocking a Heart. Like that's, that's real shit.
Speaker 3 01:00:56 It is. No, and his voice is not, you know, the, the, the regular.
Speaker 0 01:01:01 Yeah. It's not the regular, it's distinct and different. You feel the emotion in it. He grew up in a, in a small town up in Illinois and was was working in, working on like an oil rig, you
Speaker 3 01:01:11 Know, and that is amazing story that he has just like, oh yeah, I just did it one time.
Speaker 0 01:01:16 His first, his first time ever playing in front of people was a Ray Rowdy event. It was at Live Oak. He wasn't even living here yet. We had him play, we had him play a Writers round. That was his first, um, sha um, Austin Shawn played guitar for him, his producer. He didn't even, he didn't even know how to play guitar. You just, it, it's just, it's so cool to see that you can do it that organic way. Yeah. Like, cuz you started organic and then you found a group of guys that believe in you that can be your, your quote unquote suits, but they're not really suits because they're your boys. They're guys that believe in you.
Speaker 3 01:01:48 Yeah. That's how we did it. I mean, how'd
Speaker 0 01:01:50 You meet tho? How'd you meet those, how'd you meet? Um, those two guys?
Speaker 3 01:01:54 Uh, wait, which one's exactly
Speaker 0 01:01:56 I'm talking about? Um, Tyler and, uh, Brayden. Brayden, yeah.
Speaker 3 01:01:59 All right. So Brayden had already been working with Tyler and o e g and uh, and they already had three other artists at the time. And I had actually met Caitlin and Tyler for the first time in January of 2021 at Tumbleweed. We weren't supposed to be playing there. We were supposed to be in like Alva, Oklahoma for some, uh, music deal. And then it ended up getting rained out. So they moved it to the, the small, uh, uh, I forget what they call it, but it was the small little, uh, stage in the back. Yeah. And, uh, I sat right next, uh, to the right of Caitlyn. Did a writer's round. And um, and that's when I first met him. But then Carrie had never heard of me either the night before I was in there, uh, drinking under the age <laugh> and I had the courage to, it happens.
Speaker 3 01:02:45 Yeah. I had the courage to go up to him and be like, man, I'd really love to play here. What do I have to do? He told me all that stuff. Then the next day I'm playing there and I was like, man, this worked out great. But, uh, he was texting Tyler and he is like, you need to get this kid while you still can. And, uh, and so the conversation started, but I didn't have anyone helping me with anything. Like, it was just me, little old me. I'd set my own gear up, I knew everything about that. And I'd play for four hours just by myself having the time of my life and singing
Speaker 0 01:03:13 It, singing every Red Dirt song that you did.
Speaker 3 01:03:15 Yeah, yeah. Singing every song that I could possibly learn. And he, he goes, Hey, we need you to come down here. Let's, uh, let's have you and Caitlyn do a show together. And I showed up like 45 minutes late because he told me.
Speaker 0 01:03:29 And this is Caitlyn who?
Speaker 3 01:03:30 Caitlyn Killian. Kaitlyn Killian. Which is also a roommate. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, I, I'll never forget that because I didn't know what load in was. I was like, yeah, screw all that man. Like <laugh>, I, I can set up my stuff 10 minutes before I'm supposed to start playing and I'll be fine
Speaker 0 01:03:47 Bar band style baby. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:03:49 Yeah. There ain't no time for that. Yeah. And, and so yeah, I almost lost, like, I probably was about this close to not being able to, uh, be a part of this team just cuz I was showing up late all the time and I was like, dude, I don't know what you want from me. This show starts at like six. Why you want me here at four <laugh>? Like it's an acoustic gig either way. Uh, met with them and then they were like, let's do a test trial. We'll do three months, see how things work. Three months goes by. I just started calling him my manager and then we never talked about it again. And then, uh, just been, yeah. Been with those guys and then we, we all moved here to Nashville. Uh, I still had no money. Um, and so I just lived in the apartment, uh, with Tyler, my manager. And then I shared a room with my guitar player and producer, Austin Ya Kez. And, uh, just moved out of there in April. Where
Speaker 0 01:04:46 Was that apartment at?
Speaker 3 01:04:48 Uh, that would've been, uh, down in Brentwood. Okay. The landings of Brentwood apartment.
Speaker 0 01:04:53 Hey, Och
Speaker 3 01:04:54 <laugh>. And,
Speaker 0 01:04:56 Uh, where are you at now?
Speaker 3 01:04:57 Uh, still in Brentwood, but now we're in a, a big old house, but we're sharing it with, I think there's five of us in there. Okay.
Speaker 0 01:05:04 But it's all create, it's all people and
Speaker 3 01:05:06 Music. So it's, it's manager still the guitar player, producer Austin. Then you got Kaitlyn Killian and then you got Andrew Senner and me.
Speaker 0 01:05:17 Dude, that's awesome. I love when, when, when folks live, like music folks live together because it's just like a creative house.
Speaker 3 01:05:26 It's a creative house and it's also just personal growth all the way across. Yeah. It's like, how do we build each other up and, and, and help each and every single one of us succeed. Yeah.
Speaker 0 01:05:36 Yep. I, I saw that recently with, with, uh, with Trey. When I first met Trey Lewis. I mean, he, since he's been in Nashville pretty much, he's been living with Ella Langley, his roommate Yeah. Who's killing it and yeah. Doing another thing. And then up until they recently moved into this, this new house in Hermitage that they're at, it was the two of them. And then Joy Beth Taylor, phenomenal songwriter and fellow Alabama for person. And then, uh, Matt McKinney, who's a killer songwriter. So you had, you had four just creative friends living together. And like you said, it's the personal growth thing where you guys all moved here together and you guys are all coming up together Yeah. And doing it. And it's it that, that creative energy just keeps you rolling and keeps you inspired and keeps you going.
Speaker 3 01:06:15 And especially for all of us coming, you know, Andrew's from Texas, but for the most part, we're all from that area. So when we all showed up together, it was like, it's us against the world. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's been that energy, but now it's, it's, it's not like we are trying to step on toes and everything to get to the top of the ladder. No, you're, oh, it's just like, we got each other. Yeah. We gotta make this work for ourselves. Yeah. And, and now it's just been a fun family. Like, truthfully, like everyone's like, this is music business, not music friends. And it's like, yeah. But there you can also have a great person, you know, personal relationship with people.
Speaker 0 01:06:50 If you, if if you're a great person, you'll find other great people to work with. Yes. And then it's gonna work. You have a much better shot being a good person and doing it with your friends and to where it's work and it'll feel like work at times. Yeah. But at the end of the day, you're doing something you fucking love with other people that you happen to love that are your, that are your closest homies. And I love, I love that for you man. And I love seeing what you and your team are building and I can't wait to see what's coming now. We're kind of getting to that midway point of this year. You've had a lot of shows under your belt. Um, you've got the Charles tour coming up. When does that start?
Speaker 3 01:07:26 Oh man, see you remember me talking about not looking at, you have Master Tour <laugh>? I'm trying to think. I think it starts maybe the 10th of July, somewhere
Speaker 0 01:07:36 In there. Okay. Do you have stuff before that?
Speaker 3 01:07:38 Yeah, I think I'll be up in Chicago and stuff with, uh, 49 the weekend
Speaker 0 01:07:42 Before, bro. Is that at Joe's on weed?
Speaker 3 01:07:44 I have no idea.
Speaker 0 01:07:46 Probably at Joe's on weed or Joe's Live Chicago. Have you been to Chicago? No. Chicago is fucking awesome. Especially this time of year. Heck yeah. You go in the summer, bro. When it's warm and not windy with a foot of snow. Chicago is awesome. Heck yeah. One of, one of my favorite cities and one of the cities I was most surprised about with country music. They fucking love it. No shit. They're, they're gonna eat it up, bro. Hell yeah. And, and the red dirt scene does so well up there. Like there's a huge red dirt market to where Turnpike and all those guys, I mean, even going back to, to, um, to Ragweed and Wade Bowen and Randy Rogers. And Casey Donny, you mean there's, that's your Chicago is a, an awesome place. You're gonna love it. I recommend going to Portillo's. Portillo's Portillo's. It's a place where, uh, sandwich really good sandwiches. Call 'em beef sandwiches, just roast beef on a sandwich, <laugh>, and you get it wet. So it's already dipped in like the dip. So it's like, and then they have, oh boy big, get a big piece of chocolate cake there, <laugh>. They also have chocolate cake shakes, bro. And they have dispensaries everywhere, but they're expensive. You lower your weed prices, please. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:08:51 Take that
Speaker 0 01:08:52 Thator. Yeah. Oh, and drink some mallor. I'm,
Speaker 3 01:08:55 I'm gonna have to write this down.
Speaker 0 01:08:56 Well, I'll text it to you. Oh, thank you. I'll text it to, I'll give, I'll give you a little, little itinerary. Chicago and with the 49 guys, that'll be awesome. Oh yeah. And if you're at Joe's on weed, they hook it up really well with hospitality. Um, our buddy, um, ed Warm actually, he's the guy that owns that cause No kidding. Cause be a torn manager. The last few years I've gotten to know everybody all over the country with doing the shows and stuff. But, um, yeah, Chicago one of my favorite spots. And then I'm guessing off of Chicago. You're probably doing what? Like Michigan? Yeah, Indiana.
Speaker 3 01:09:24 Um, I'm trying to, or
Speaker 0 01:09:25 Wisconsin. Are you going to Milwaukee? Are you gonna Milwaukee? Uh, yeah. Are you going to the, is it the Rave Eagles Club? I, it's gotta be the Rave.
Speaker 3 01:09:32 I think it's, uh, it's with Charlie Crockett. I, that's,
Speaker 0 01:09:35 That's got probably the
Speaker 3 01:09:36 Rave. I think Charlie's Oh man. I try not to look at it cuz it likes it,
Speaker 0 01:09:40 It overwhelms
Speaker 3 01:09:41 You. Oh yeah. Cuz like, oh man, we got a lot of things to accomplish. It's like, I, I'm just, I just get in the van when I'm told to <laugh>.
Speaker 0 01:09:48 Yeah. Um, if you go up to Milwaukee, that's the, um, that, have you heard of that place? The Ray Eagles Club? Uhuh. Okay. So it's legendary. Legendary. Um, it's, it's a place where we've, I've, I've talked about this, I talk about the same venues on here all the time. Quins like, I've heard about this place, but I haven't been yet. I was
Speaker 3 01:10:05 Sorry we hadn't been there
Speaker 0 01:10:06 Yet. Yeah, you he hasn't been there yet. I've, I've been there, I've been there when I was out with, um, Gary and Charlie from Kinine. Um, it's a building that has four or five venues in it. So it's like you go in Oh no, it's an old, um, like how you have like the Elks Club or like the Moose Club and stuff. Yeah. So the Eagles Club was like a, like a high society thing back in the early days, like in like the twenties or teens or whatever. Uh, like way back. And they basically, upstairs there's a big ballroom holds about four, 5,000 people. Then downstairs on the, on the main level, there's a, there's like a barroom that holds probably about 3 50, 400. That was where I was at with Musk and I, behind that there's a club level one that holds about 7 50, 800. You go down, just, you go downstairs.
Speaker 0 01:10:50 There's another one that used to be the bowling alley in the, um, in this e this this Eagles like society, rich People's club that holds probably I think like 800 to a thousand. So you have all that. But the wildest part about it, it is one of the most haunted venues in the country. And you're a guy that's vibey uhoh and, and you, you, I think you're gonna yeah, you're gonna definitely get some vibes in, in that room if that's where you guys are going. Which I think I would imagine if you're out with Charlie, I would imagine that you're there, um, in one of those, one of those spaces. Um, which Charlie Crockett's awesome, by the way. I haven't had the chance to meet him, but I'm a big fan of what he does. And that's, that's a really cool, oh, I'm excited. Really cool.
Speaker 0 01:11:28 Opening slot for you. But downstairs is that, that famous pool? There's a, there's a, an old pool. So you go down a few levels of stairs and they'll take you on, on a tour Yeah. Of the building of like the ghost tour of the building. That's like part of the, um, part of the hospitality. They do. And um, there's the, the haunted pool with the ghosts and stuff. And they have, like right before Mac Miller had passed away, Mac Miller played there and he wrote, he signed his name on the pool and he wrote, um, I'm Mac I um, I'm Mac Miller, I was once alive, now I'm dead. I sold this bitch out like the ballroom upstairs. I've sold this bitch out four times. And he wrote like something else and then signed it and like shortly after that he passed away and they, I'm not gonna write that down, so.
Speaker 0 01:12:14 No, no, you don't, you don't have to write that. You don't have to write that. But he like Plex, they like plexiglass it and the, the acoustics, if you go down in the pool and you sing, like, I forget who was somebody. I mean Cameron Marlow just did it. Cameron was, yeah, Cameron was just there. Um, I think Mag Marone was there recently. There's a lot of, that's a huge country mark. But what's wild is you'll be doing your show on one of the club levels or maybe you guys are up in the ballroom, who knows. But there'll be other shows going on at the same time. So they'll have one room going and then like when I was there in Muske, we were downstairs, you have rid of Glanus. Mm-hmm. That is so it's like a s like European, like edm, like DJ <laugh>. So that was going on upstairs with like 5,000 drunk college kids. We were downstairs in the, in the, in the smaller room with like 400 like packed Muscadine fans and we're loading out of this place and you look up and it's just college kids just dangling out the windows of this ballroom. Just crazy shit. And to make it even wilder <laugh> across the street Is you familiar with all the Jeffrey Dahmer shit? Yeah. So he's from the Milwaukee, Wisconsin? No, that hotel, no, across the street was one of his spots.
Speaker 3 01:13:21 Okay, hold on. That was where
Speaker 0 01:13:22 He did his shit.
Speaker 3 01:13:23 This is where we're going. I'm pretty sure, cuz I can't remember who in my band was talking about it, but they're like, yeah, we'll be right next to the hotel.
Speaker 0 01:13:29 Yep. Yep. That's, that's where you're going. Yeah. That's it. And there used to be, I think there's still are. I didn't, I didn't do the, I didn't do the full Jeffrey Dahmer experience, but there's like apparently tunnels underneath where you can get from the Eagles Club to the hotel, like under the street. Oh shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a, it's a vibe, bro. The mid, then the Midwest fucks the upper Midwest specifically. Like, like you talking about like Milwaukee, grand Rapids, Michigan, um, Indianapolis, Chicago, uh, the Great cities for country music. Like those are some of my favorite clubs in the country to go along with Tumbleweed Of course. And, and go along with Cannes and, and like you've got a lot of fun shit outta you, bro. Oh yeah. I'm, I'm excited. I'm so excited for you. I'm jealous almost <laugh> that that you, that you're getting to experience all this stuff for the first time because it, it's so much fun getting to see the country and to do it with a team that believes in you and that you believe in and you have that us against the world mentality.
Speaker 0 01:14:27 Cause that's how it was when I was with, when I was with Muscular and that's how it was the early days with Trey coming outta Dick down in Dallas. Like you, you're going out there and it's, it's a unit. It's like playing, playing a sport. Yeah. And fucking like coming up in like middle school or high school and you're going out with your team across the country playing in tournaments or something like you're playing travel ball or something, but you're, but you're getting to play music in front of people that want to hear it. Yeah. In front of and get to open for artists. How wild is that? Dude? It's crazy. <laugh>. And this is life. This is work. Yeah. You're not, you're not, you're not dogging it in a hundred degree middle Oklahoma heat on a farm anymore. You're not, you're not doing the construction gigs and and doing all that and by doing that makes all this worth that much more to you. Yes. So dude, I'm super excited for you. Super stoked. Well thank you. Any word on, on new music coming?
Speaker 3 01:15:13 Uh, alright, I'll go ahead and say it. Uh, the next song coming out, uh, I believe it's coming out June 9th. Okay. Is, uh, holes, which is, uh, song that I wrote back in March. And it, it's all about being broke and, uh, and yeah, I'm, I'm very excited. It's one of the most personalized songs towards me and, and where I come from and, and the generations of my family. So I'm very excited to be releasing that song. I've been holding it for way too long. Well
Speaker 0 01:15:39 Maybe you putting out that song we'll Inspire Crazy Ass Shilah Buff to make a new Holes movie and you'll be the damn soundtrack. We'll get, we'll get, we'll get, we'll get the label team on, on the sync on that one. We'll inspire that and you can be the movie soundtrack of the major Motion Picture
Speaker 3 01:15:55 Holes. That would be
Speaker 0 01:15:56 Awesome. Holes, whatever number it is. I think it'd be Holes two, right? I mean,
Speaker 3 01:16:00 I don't think, wait, they made a second one. Did
Speaker 0 01:16:02 They make a second one, man? No. Turn your mic on. Turn your mic on McElroy and turn your mic on. There you go.
Speaker 5 01:16:07 Yeah, if they do, if they do this, it'll be, it'll
Speaker 0 01:16:09 Be a Holes two. Okay. Holes, holes two. We need you. Why Floors has your soundtrack? Holes two. We're ready for you.
Speaker 3 01:16:15 He needs that paycheck. Oh you did? Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. Hey,
Speaker 0 01:16:19 It gets expensive out there in Brentwood. Um, but uh, but bro, where where can people go to find you on all the socials and shit?
Speaker 3 01:16:25 Uh, uh, socials. Just look up official Wyatt Flores. And then I swear if you look up Flores at all, you'll see my goofy ass on there somewhere.
Speaker 0 01:16:33 Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Well man, I appreciate you coming on and hanging. Um, like I said, it's full circle, like Yeah. Getting to literally meeting you your first time playing at your first time doing like one of those opening slots for, for Carrie and the crew at Tumbleweed to, to now you're, you're, you're a rising act and your name. People are knowing in the country music scene. And I can't wait to watch you continue to grow. Thank you brother and super stoked to have you as a, as a part of the, the outside the round Audi family now, bro, it's, it's, it's cool to have you. Have you, I know we talked about doing it for a while, so glad we
Speaker 3 01:17:05 Make you work. Thank you so much for having me, man,
Speaker 0 01:17:07 Brother. Absolutely. We'll do, we'll do it. We'll do it again soon. Oh heck yeah. We'll do it. We'll do it again sometime. <laugh>. Uh, y'all be sure to check out our boy Wyatt Flores. Uh, he's going on the road with all kinds of folks all over the country. Uh, so y'all be sure to go and uh, visit, it's wyatt flores.com I'm assuming, right? Yeah. Website wyatt flores music.com. Wyatt flores music.com Y'all be sure to go check that out. Uh, get some tickets and when you're at the shows, say hey to Wyatt and buy some fucking merch cuz the merch is a huge way to support these guys and girls that we have on this show and, uh, folks that are rising up in this country music thing. Um, also shout out to our sponsors, of course, we got our friends from big friendly productions. We have our friends from Whale Tale Media, Saxon Studios, and our boy Mitch Wallace with the Digital Marketing Agency. Uh, for more information on what we do here at Outside the Round, y'all, visit rays rowdy.com for Sweet Boy Behind the Camera, my boy Wyatt Flores. My name is Matt Brill and this has been outside the Round
Speaker 6 01:18:04 One place for too long. I ain't never been the best. I love you too, girl. Love. So No, I'm just the, for just.
