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Speaker 2 00:01:43 We're good. How are
Speaker 1 00:01:44 You doing? Doing good. Uh, it's a, it's a Monday post St. Patrick's Day. Thanks for having
Speaker 2 00:01:49 Us.
Speaker 1 00:01:49 Of course. No, thank you guys for, for coming on. Know, you guys have been busy and spent a lot of time out on the road. Maybe not super recently, but over the last like, couple, couple months you guys were road dogging it a ton and, and all that. But you guys have a good St. Patrick's Day weekend. What'd you guys do?
Speaker 2 00:02:04 Yeah, we did. Well I was on a riding trip this weekend. Okay. So we celebrated a little bit, but was working.
Speaker 3 00:02:11 Yeah, I was on Broadway. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:02:12 Hey, you were working?
Speaker 3 00:02:14 Yeah. No, I was not working. I was just Oh,
Speaker 1 00:02:16 You were just down there.
Speaker 3 00:02:17 Yeah. No. So Friday I went down there with my family and then Saturday, uh, my roommate Luis, uh, with Neon Leaf Media, he was doing a shoot at almost Friday and wanted me to work it with him. So we of course got drunk while we were doing that and then proceeded to go to Broadway from there.
Speaker 1 00:02:35 <laugh>, where do you go with your family to Broadway? Like on Broadway? What bar is like the, the bar for your family? Family bar, <laugh>. I used to work down there, so I always brought my family to Whiskey Road cause that's where I Where'd you work? Yeah, at Whiskey Road. Okay. So I was a door guy there my first year in town, like Uhhuh. So I was always like, they always wanted to see where I worked. I'd never bring them down there at night though. Like, I'd bring them down there for like, oh yeah. A day shift when it was a little chiller and then get to a certain time, be like, all right guys, we're not gonna, we're not alright grandma, you're not gonna, we're not gonna have you out on Broadway at 10 o'clock on a Friday night. But where did, where did, where'd you take the fam
Speaker 3 00:03:05 Shoot? They like to go to, they like to go to Roberts a lot. Okay, so Roberts is, that's the
Speaker 2 00:03:10 Best Yeah. Broadway bar, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 00:03:12 They like Roberts. We went to Layla's for a minute because some, some kid was playing down there supposedly, but it, he was off that shift. He was playing the next shift or something like that, I don't know. And then went to Kid Rocks because, um, their friends had never been to Kid Rocks, so they wanted to go there pretty bad.
Speaker 1 00:03:32 Yeah. See, I remember when, um, when, uh, when Brett, when all those like name bars were starting to come in. Now you're a unicorn, right? Yeah. You're born and raised here? I'm born
Speaker 2 00:03:39 And raised in
Speaker 1 00:03:40 Nashville. So you've seen this town grow? Oh yeah. Cause how old are you?
Speaker 2 00:03:43 23.
Speaker 1 00:03:44 Okay. So you're, okay. So like you think back to like 20 12, 20 13 was like the boom and that was like 10 years ago. So you were like, in middle school it was school. It was
Speaker 2 00:03:52 Totally different. Yeah, <laugh> was, I was in 2012. I was like 12. Yeah. So it's not the way, I mean the, the biggest difference is like, there weren't, it wasn't the Bachelorette Central and it was like all honky tonks, you know? Yeah. Like there, they didn't have like the big like three story bars, like, you know, it was like Tootsie's Roberts, like all those kind of ours, which I still like those. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:04:18 Yeah. There's something special about going the Roberts having a little buzz on you and, um, and getting a fry bologna sandwich, you know, there's just that, just that signature signature to it. And wait, where are you from again? Cause we,
Speaker 3 00:04:30 I'm from South Carolina,
Speaker 1 00:04:31 So. Okay. We've, okay. I, I forgot if it was South Carolina or Georgia. I knew you were somewhere,
Speaker 3 00:04:36 Somewhere in there. I'm, um, you know Jake Gantt? Yes. Yeah. Me and Jake are from, we're less than an hour apart. Oh no shit. Yeah, me, him, Connor Sweeney. All those boys are all from like the same area.
Speaker 1 00:04:46 All your little heathens running around. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:04:48 Yeah. We played a little hometown show for him a couple weeks
Speaker 3 00:04:51 Ago. We did Wendell's Dipping Branch.
Speaker 1 00:04:53 Oh dude. Uhhuh
Speaker 3 00:04:54 <affirmative>. That's like 30 minutes from Miles. Yeah. It actually was
Speaker 2 00:04:57 A, it was a lot of fun. I really like
Speaker 1 00:04:59 Anderson. South Carolina is a special place. Uhhuh <affirmative>. I've been through Wendell's a few times. I've been through Wendell's and I've been through the Blind Horse in Greenville.
Speaker 2 00:05:06 Oh
Speaker 1 00:05:06 Yeah. <laugh> South Carolina. And, and South Cki does it different. They're, they're a wild bunch now. Who were you guys out on the road with for that? Or was that a headlining date or what?
Speaker 3 00:05:13 We
Speaker 2 00:05:14 Were with Lilly Rose and Griffin
Speaker 1 00:05:15 Palmer.
Speaker 2 00:05:15 Yeah. Awesome. That's what we've been doing the past couple months.
Speaker 1 00:05:18 And it's just been you two kind of on the road. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Oh yeah. So you guys have gotten to know each other very well. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:05:23 We met to our own devices out there.
Speaker 3 00:05:25 <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:05:27 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:05:27 What have you guys been like traveling in? Or have you guys been kinda hitching?
Speaker 3 00:05:30 Rip
Speaker 2 00:05:32 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:05:33 So it's been the two of y'all in, in the personal vehicle?
Speaker 2 00:05:36 Yep. Yeah, we got big loud, bought like a rider bus. So we've gotten to take the bus out for like two weekends I think. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:05:42 Well you were on it for two weekends. I was on it for one.
Speaker 2 00:05:45 Yes, you're right. Only artists only think about themselves. Um, so that we got for one weekend and, and that was like, you know, we had a little more space. Yeah. But then the rest of the time we've been in the Jeep, which I mean like
Speaker 3 00:05:59 <laugh>, it's not bad. Me, it's, I mean I'm comfy.
Speaker 2 00:06:02 Kinda not bad. Yeah. Like I really don't mind it. I, the only thing, like, we've been in like a, like my dad has a Tahoe and so like sometimes I'll borrow that and it's like a little more roomy, but like it's just the two of us. Yeah. My day-today will come with us and it like, we don't have that many bags. Like, it's fine. I could whip it in the Jeep. Yeah. Just, I
Speaker 1 00:06:23 Don't mind it just toing bare bones and just rough it right now. Where's the farthest you guys have had to go in that thing? Like what's been the longest? Uh,
Speaker 3 00:06:30 Well we went to, well Detroit wasn't that far.
Speaker 2 00:06:34 Well we weren't in the Jeep though cuz we we're full van. Oh. We were in the Tahoe. So we had like, we were had a Tahoe full van in a Tahoe. But the farthest we've gone in the Jeep is like seven hours.
Speaker 3 00:06:45 Something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:06:46 To, to um, uh, South Carolina probably. Yeah. It was, it's seven or eight hours. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:06:51 Okay. It's not,
Speaker 2 00:06:52 It's really not that bad. It's
Speaker 1 00:06:53 Not too, too bad. See, I've done like the van out to Texas thing. Yeah. I've done the, the van out to like South Dakota thing. Yeah. Like I've done that kind of stuff. Well,
Speaker 2 00:07:02 We'll get there. <laugh>. Yeah. We'll be doing that too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:07:06 Yeah. It's uh, it's, it's wild going out in the road and experiencing different things. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and especially you guys have gotten to do a lot in the Southeast and you being a Carolina boy and you being a hotty tody ole Miss alum. Yeah. <laugh> taking some time in Oxford, which, Oxford to me, I've only been there once. It's an interest, it's a different kind of vibe.
Speaker 2 00:07:23 Oh yeah. It's the best. I love it.
Speaker 1 00:07:25 See I didn't, I didn't have like the, the, I mean I didn't have like a terrible experience there, but for me it was just, we went well. So for me, I've been to Starkville a bunch and I know you had that.
Speaker 2 00:07:34 Did you like Starkville better than Oxford? I
Speaker 1 00:07:36 Liked Rick's more than Proud Larry's.
Speaker 2 00:07:38 Okay. Well that's fair cuz they're totally different.
Speaker 1 00:07:41 Totally different vibes.
Speaker 2 00:07:42 Completely different. Like Yeah. Venues like you, I feel like you can't even compare the two. Like, proud Larry's is just a like very local like Yeah. Band. Like smaller bands come through small,
Speaker 1 00:07:53 Small, smaller than winners. Yeah. It's smaller than Whiskey Gym.
Speaker 2 00:07:55 Yeah, it's small. And Rick's is like a regular like club and Rick's is just its own <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:08:01 Yeah. Rick's was fun. Can't
Speaker 2 00:08:03 One compare the two to me. But what did you do? What else did, does that work?
Speaker 1 00:08:06 You like walked around? Trey bought like a bunch of, bunch of random shit from some store we ate at Mo's Barbecue. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Which was very on brand for, for being out with the Alabama guys cuz they're, they're, they used to play at all the mo's barbecues, so they love going in there. But I mean, Starkville, I would say there's probably more to do in Oxford than Starkville. Oh. I feel. Which is why I think that I've, like I've only place in Starkville I've been is Rick's.
Speaker 2 00:08:28 Yeah. Honestly,
Speaker 1 00:08:29 Me too. Rick's in the hotel. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:08:31 Wow. You haven't been like to the district? No, I think it's called the district.
Speaker 2 00:08:35 Is that like the bars
Speaker 3 00:08:36 And stuff? Yeah, there's like this patch of bars that are like, no, what's, what's uh, Mississippi State? I think it's like right over there by campus. Oh really? Yeah, it's, well it's not far from Rick's. It's like maybe a mile tops. Cuz when I went, Paxton was there.
Speaker 1 00:08:51 Oh see I haven't had a Oh
Speaker 2 00:08:52 Cause you left. You went, you went out. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:08:55 I haven't had a, a Paxton p Starkville experience. Yeah. I feel like that's, that'd be like doing Oxford with you or doing, doing um, doing Greenville or Clemson with you. You know, like Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:06 Yeah. You have to go with the right. You have to go with like Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:09:10 I got lucky on that one and got Paxton there with me on my first time in like, in Starksville that, so it was nice. Or Starkville, but whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:09:19 <laugh>. Yeah. Wild, wild times. Now who were, was were those ones with, uh, was that the Larry Fleet tour?
Speaker 2 00:09:24 That was with Lilly Rose. Oh, Lilly Rose
Speaker 1 00:09:25 As
Speaker 2 00:09:26 Well. Okay. I was in, I was in Starkville another time with Ernest. Oh.
Speaker 1 00:09:29 With Ernest. That's who it was.
Speaker 2 00:09:29 Okay. That was my first time in Starkville, which was funny cuz I've like spent a lot of time in Mississippi. But I mean, Starkville like, that's enemy territory for me. Yeah. So I just have never really been Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:09:40 Yeah. No. It, until were out and it's def it is definitely like a different vibe. Yeah. What's it been like going out, going out on the road and not really like, cuz you don't even have anything out just yet, right?
Speaker 2 00:09:49 No. Yeah. I mean I, it's, it's happening very soon, which I'm very excited for. Cuz it's hard to play shows with, with when you don't have music out. Like it's fun cuz you can kind of play whatever and you can test stuff out. But at the same time it's like, are any of these people taking me seriously? They're like, okay, are you a real artist? But it's kind of fun too cuz it's like, it's perfect timing cuz we're about to put stuff out. We're getting everybody excited. Um, so it's been good. I feel like, and I, I, you know, I put, I love to like, I don't really think much about what I put out on Instagram. Like, I just put stuff out all the time and I, like, people have been responding well and so those are the kind of songs I play live. Yeah. And, and they go over well. And so it's been good. It's
Speaker 1 00:10:33 Been fun. Yeah. How did, how did it all kind of come to be to where you, you've, you're in a rare situation <laugh> like where, where you, where you're doing as much touring as you're doing mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you're, you're with, you're with a, a huge, with a big label, a great publisher doing all of that stuff without having the music out. Like what was, how did that all kind of come to be like and growing up here? Like you're Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:10:53 I mean, I guess it is kind of backwards. I don't know. I mean, I, I guess I don't even really know where to start. I mean, I grew up playing shows like I And where
Speaker 1 00:11:03 In town did you grow up at?
Speaker 2 00:11:05 I grew up like in Oak Hill. Okay. Like, like is that south of Green Hills, I guess. Okay. So near, near Green
Speaker 1 00:11:11 Hills. Okay. So like in Davids Davidson
Speaker 2 00:11:13 County? Yeah, in Davidson County. Okay. Which people I used to get so frustrated cuz people would be like, where are you from? And I'm like, Nashville. And they'd go always, oh. But like outside of Nashville, like, are you really from, I'm like, okay, I'm not from downtown Nashville, but I am from Davidson County. Yeah. And it used to make me mad. Now I don't really care. I would kind of rather be from outside of Nashville if I'm being honest. But, um, yeah, I mean I grew up playing shows. I, me and my, I have another, I have three sisters, but my older sister is in music. She's a songwriter, uh, Caroline Watkins. And we grew up playing shows together. Like we would play anywhere. People would listen. We, our first regular gig was actually at the Corner Pub in, I guess it's Forest Hills or Temple Hills,
Speaker 1 00:11:59 I think. Yeah. Corner
Speaker 2 00:11:59 Pub in the Woods is what it's called. And they didn't do live music there, but they would let us bring our, we bought like a little amp and we would bring our guitars and sing. And it was really for like our friends and family <laugh>. But we'd play there on Sunday nights. Then we got a little older and we started playing pucks, like all the different pucks locations. We started playing Broadway in high school and
Speaker 1 00:12:19 We were Broadway in high school. What is, what is that like being a local and being like, Hey, I'm not gonna go, Hey, I, I gotta go, I gotta go work. I gotta, I gotta go play down at, down at Rips. Yeah. Or tsys one of those. Like, it was funny. That's the circuit. Like as a local high school girl.
Speaker 2 00:12:33 Well it was funny cuz I like, we were too young to play at night, so we would have to play the day shift like two to four. Yeah. Or 12 to four, whatever it was. And it would be like, my parents would come out, we were like 15 and 16. Maybe I was older. Maybe I was like 16. And like our parents would come out and it was, I, I didn't think of it as like working back then. Like I really, it was just like fun for me. I just thought it was just something that we did on the weekends. Yeah. And it was cool. Not everybody was doing that. I pe I feel like people, you know, when you think about growing up in Nashville, people kind of think it's so industry and so music and it really wasn't, at least the way I grew up. Like we were kind of the, it was kinda me and my sister. Like, we just did that and people thought it was cool. And then I went to college thinking I was never gonna come back. I was like, music was just for fun. Like, I gotta go to college though. I
Speaker 1 00:13:26 Didn't think. What was your, what was your, your big girl major that you told your parents you had? Marketing. Oh, marketing. Marketing. Okay. Well that kind of ties in.
Speaker 2 00:13:33 It was the best thing I could have done either. Yeah. For what I do now. Yeah. But I mean, to be honest with you, like I just wanted to go to Ole Miss. I didn't think about it. I didn't apply anywhere else. I was just like, this is what I want to
Speaker 1 00:13:44 Do. <laugh> was it just the, the lore of the Grove and being Hot potty. My parents went there
Speaker 2 00:13:49 And my grandparents went there.
Speaker 1 00:13:51 All right, that makes
Speaker 2 00:13:51 More sense. So it was in the family. So I was like, yes, that's what I'm doing. Went there. Absolutely loved it. But I think I had, I had this click moment halfway through where I was like, okay, wait, am I gonna move to a small town after this? Am I gonna move to the beach or am I gonna do music? Like, I know I'm supposed to be doing music. So I started doing like whatever I could to just like have the best, like, have the best shot at it when I came back to town. Cause I knew I wanted to graduate and finish. I loved it. So I knew I didn't wanna cut my time short. So I was like, I'm just gonna write while I'm here. I'm gonna like, try to play some shows. I would, I knew a cover band that would play at this bar there, so they'd let me get up and sing with 'em. But I, but that was it. And, and so then I came back to town and like right before is when I met Nicole Gallion, who now I'm getting around to answering you <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:14:38 Yeah. No, we love, love the
Speaker 2 00:14:39 Backstory. She found me through Instagram. Actually, Rodney Klaus and her husband found my Instagram cuz I would just post random little video like covers of me singing those
Speaker 1 00:14:48 Acoustic bedroom covers. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:14:50 And I truly, everybody truly wasn't. Everybody does start to happen. Yeah. It was just like, I, I just liked doing that. And he found it showed Nicole, she reached out to me and we just started going back and forth and then she introduced me to the rest of the people at Big Loud. And then they picked me up. So it is kind of backwards cuz it just all kind of started happening and like, I just met really great people and wrote my ass off, you know, for the first couple years. And I still am. And so, I don't know, I, we just, we had the songs and so we were like, we gotta just do it. But you know how long it takes like Yeah. To get 'em recorded and to get everything exactly the way you want it and have the rollout just the right way. So we didn't see any reason to like not be playing shows till we were done. You
Speaker 1 00:15:32 Know what what I mean? Yeah. The fact that they're letting you guys, you go out and bring, bring a wade here out with you <laugh> and let, letting you guys go out and get the experience of doing shows when that music pops. I know what's going to Yeah, you're a badass. Oh, thank you. And you're a killer writer. Thank you. Killer person, killer artist. Like when it pops, you won't have that moment of being like, what do I do on this stage? Totally. You already have that experience. You know how to win over a crowd that doesn't know who the fuck you are. So then when people, when people are paying money mm-hmm. <affirmative> and coming to see you guys headline, it's gonna be easy for you guys to go up there and you'll think back, remember that time driving seven hours out to South Carolina, the fucking fucking Jeep stopping at loves eating peanut m and ms and Cherokee and shit. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:16:13 I hope so. That's kind of the theory. I, I hope you're right.
Speaker 1 00:16:16 No, I, I think, I think it's gonna happen. Now how did you guys get, get connected? Because I know Wade's down here for school.
Speaker 2 00:16:22 I think we met, how did
Speaker 3 00:16:23 We So
Speaker 2 00:16:24 Mutual friends
Speaker 3 00:16:25 Or? So Chris Gladden, um, he used to play for Cameron Mario. Now he's playing for Morgan. But he reached out and it was back in October, I guess. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it was back in October. We were on the earnest run with Noah. And I got a text saying about, uh, needing to fill in for, uh, 10 roof date, yada yada. Told me to pay and whatnot and asked if I was interested. And I was like, yeah, put me on it. Whatever. He said he'd send my information to management. Well the second day of the earnest run we're loading in with No, I get a call and it was Brayden, but he in
Speaker 2 00:17:04 Braden was my day-to-day at the
Speaker 3 00:17:05 Time. Yeah, yeah. He introduced himself like, uh, Hey man, this is Brayden from Big Loud, uh, is this Wade Davis? And I was like,
Speaker 2 00:17:14 He thought he was in trouble.
Speaker 3 00:17:16 I'm scared to death because I had just heard how Seth, um, and like all these people were there the first night of the tour. Yeah. And then I'm getting a call from,
Speaker 1 00:17:25 I've already been with her boy, no one, he
Speaker 2 00:17:27 Didn't know who my manager was. He just thought, oh God, this guy from me
Speaker 3 00:17:30 Was calling. Yeah. I got scared. And then he was like, and then he started talking about this show and we did a 10 roof, uh, weekend. Um, and we talked and she needed, last year she needed a guitar player and it looked like it was, was gonna work out. So.
Speaker 1 00:17:43 Oh.
Speaker 3 00:17:44 Yeah. So at the top of the year we started going together, but mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's been great from there. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1 00:17:50 Been great. What, what tin roofs were they at? Cause I've bounced around a few
Speaker 2 00:17:53 Of those. Well, we did, we've done a, now we've done a bunch of 'em. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:17:56 The first one was,
Speaker 2 00:17:57 It was Birmingham.
Speaker 3 00:17:58 Yeah, it was Birmingham and Memphis.
Speaker 1 00:18:00 Yes. I've been to been to both of those roofs. I've had wild nights with, with that guy right there and a couple of the tin roofs. <laugh>. Oh, sweet. Boy's been in, he knows how to tin roof.
Speaker 2 00:18:10 Oh my God. Yeah. Well there's a way. And then we did, so we did those like way back in October, I guess. Yeah. And then top of this year, cuz that's another thing we were just like, we just wanna get our reps in. Like, we just wanna keep going. So we did like eight more the top of this year. Yeah. It was like, I'm not gonna even try to list all the cities. But yeah, we did a whole bunch of 'em and, and uh, every time we would call, we would roll back into town. Like after the weekend was over, either like on Sunday afternoon or like early, early Sunday morning, like yeah, three or 4:00 AM and it, we would get off the interstate and the first thing we would pass was Tin Roof on Demian. And we'd be like, tin roof, don't look out the window. Like, just get me home. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:18:55 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:18:56 Yeah. After the first weekend everybody left their AirPods in until we got to Big Louds. So nobody would have to hear that that conversation happen.
Speaker 1 00:19:03 That's funny. Now, who usually drives between the two of you guys?
Speaker 2 00:19:07 Or is it road? We we take turns.
Speaker 3 00:19:08 Yeah, we switch it up pretty easily. We switch it
Speaker 1 00:19:10 Off. Okay. Who handles traffic better?
Speaker 2 00:19:13 Not me. Well, what do you
Speaker 1 00:19:14 Mean? Like, like who's gonna be driving through Atlanta and be like, this fucking sucks. Like, probably be like be I probably would road rage in like,
Speaker 3 00:19:24 I definitely have like hard, I think we hardcore road rage. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:19:27 I think we, we we both are pretty bad.
Speaker 3 00:19:29 <laugh>. Yeah. We're both.
Speaker 2 00:19:30 Yeah. But I'm like, I'm really bad with directions. My God. Like not only, only like, not only do I not like, I won't remember how to get places, but I also like, I don't know why, but I cannot follow what gps.
Speaker 3 00:19:43 It's like if she's looking at her phone, even if it tells her like what lane to be in. It's,
Speaker 2 00:19:48 I think I overthink it. I'm like, wait, but the, and, and I just, yeah. I will just panic and
Speaker 3 00:19:55 Go the wrong way. Were we were somewhere on one of those 10 roof runs and you this like, I already know five turns in a row. I do not remember. It was,
Speaker 2 00:20:03 It was, it was Kansas City and they were the weirdest roads I've
Speaker 1 00:20:06 Ever seen. Kansas City is pretty, pretty
Speaker 2 00:20:07 Fucking confus. It was the craziest roads
Speaker 1 00:20:08 I've ever seen. I'm with you. I don't, I don't like Kansas City for that reason
Speaker 2 00:20:10 Either. I mean, but also like, I kind of like have a good deal going on because I'm like, everybody knows I'm bad with directions, so nobody wants me to drive <laugh>. They're like, well if we wanna get there the quickest, we're not gonna ask Lauren to drive. And I'm like, oh, sorry. I guess I just have to ride shotgun. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:20:27 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:28 Or take a nap in that, in the background. Oh,
Speaker 2 00:20:29 Guess I just have to take a nap. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:20:31 Oh, I, I have to do my makeup. Yeah. That's another one. That is another, that's another one.
Speaker 2 00:20:36 It's real. That's an excuse I use, but it is a real valid excuse. Yeah, I know. I know. Because we'll usually like, you know, we'll either not have a green room or we'll roll up right at Yeah. Like sound check and then not have much time in between then and the show or, you know, whatever it may be. And so I have to do my makeup in the car. Yeah. Which will take 30, 30 minutes to an hour.
Speaker 3 00:20:56 No. Yeah. We all understand.
Speaker 2 00:20:57 So I can't drive while I'm doing that.
Speaker 1 00:20:59 Have you guys gotten stuck at like, uh, like behind a, behind a venue? Like there's those grassy areas that are sometimes No. Find some of these venues.
Speaker 3 00:21:07 We haven't had that happen.
Speaker 1 00:21:08 Have we gotten stuck in the mud yet?
Speaker 2 00:21:10 Well, we are in a Jeep Wrangler, so maybe we've gotten Advantage
Speaker 1 00:21:13 <laugh>. Well, I can tell you having driven a 2007 43 50, that those, those do not have four wheel drive. Yeah. We've, I've been, we've been stuck in some, we've done those Mud box. You guys haven't had to do those yet, have you?
Speaker 3 00:21:25 Mm-hmm. I, I've done the past. Past.
Speaker 1 00:21:27 I was gonna say you've probably done, yeah. Are you familiar with what those are?
Speaker 2 00:21:30 Yeah, but I've never been a part
Speaker 1 00:21:32 Of it. <laugh>? Yeah. Like doing like, like you haven't lived until you've gotten stuck. It's the end of the night. There's no like, there's no lights out. So you're loading out in the dark. Mm-hmm. And you have, there's no security, no, no hands. You get the trailer loaded and with the trailer and then the trailer and the truck are stuck and you gotta wait 20 minutes for old Bubba up the road to come down with his tractor. It's always a BBA. And he hitches to you and he pulls your ass out. Oh. And hopefully he can get you into the dirt road.
Speaker 2 00:21:56 Yeah. That hasn't happened yet, but I'm sure the day will come.
Speaker 3 00:22:00 What's Hopefully not knock
Speaker 1 00:22:01 On wood. Yeah. What's been, what's been like the, the crazy What's been like the craziest thing or like the, the Oh shit moment.
Speaker 2 00:22:07 I mean, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 00:22:08 Has there been one yet?
Speaker 2 00:22:10 Not like a crazy oh shit moment. And can you think your face looks like
Speaker 3 00:22:13 You're thinking of one? Not really. I don't feel like
Speaker 2 00:22:16 We've had any like, crazy like mishaps
Speaker 1 00:22:19 Happen, whether it's driving or just something while you're out on the
Speaker 3 00:22:22 Road. I mean, I've had stuff happen, but never anything happen on this, on these gigs.
Speaker 2 00:22:27 Yeah. Maybe I need to think
Speaker 3 00:22:28 We've, I've always gotten lucky. So, so far I've
Speaker 2 00:22:31 Gotten lucky. Great. We're gonna have something terrible.
Speaker 3 00:22:32 Yeah. Lucky we're talking about on our next
Speaker 2 00:22:34 Weekend. Great.
Speaker 3 00:22:36 Shoot. I remember one time I had, we were doing, it was in Myrtle Beach. I don't remember the venue. It wasn't the Boathouse though. It was somewhere else. And we had packed up everybody. Like we were walking to the car to leave and some, I, I wanna say she was older, but I cannot remember. But this lady had like, there was like a, like a hole in the asphalt. It had sank in at the front of her parking spot and she thought it was a good idea to pull into that I guess. So we were all trying to help this lady get her car out of this like hole in, after this gig it was two o'clock in the morning, something like that in Myrtle Beach. And I'm about, we were about to drive back four hours back to Anderson. Ooh.
Speaker 1 00:23:20 Yeah. Dirty Myrtle. Myrtle
Speaker 3 00:23:22 Myrtle.
Speaker 1 00:23:23 Terrible. Myrtle can be, Myrtle can be really rough. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:26 I had a one, one time we weren't, this wasn't with the two of us, but back when I was playing like cover band shows, like in bars one time I was playing a bar in Oxford. So, but I was living in Nashville so I came from Nashville to Oxford. I didn't have any sort of team, like no tm, no nothing. Like it was just me. And so I had like, talked to the guy who owned the bar and he said like that they were back lining drums and everything. And like he said, we got everything you need. I show up to the bar, no drums, like, no sort of any type of drums. Yeah. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1 00:24:02 <laugh> advance. What Advance? Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:24:03 Exactly. And so I'm like, okay. So it's like an hour before Showtime and I've like brought this band with me and they're like, okay. She, I looked like an idiot cuz I was like, thought I had my shit together and I didn't. And I was like, what are we gonna do? It was like, there was no, there's no music stored. Like nobody's gonna like rent us drums. Like, so I, since I went to school there, I like kind of still had some friends in town. I called every single person I knew in town and was like,
Speaker 3 00:24:31 You told me this story, who
Speaker 2 00:24:31 Has a drum kit? Like, who, where can I find one? And I ended up, I knew of this guy who was playing at one of the fraternities, so I was like, we're gonna, I know his set ends right before ours start, so he's not gonna be having his phone. We're gonna have to show up and just be ready and just beg and plead for him to give us his drums. So I had, I ran, my sister ran over there for me and basically right after they got off stage, she like tried to level with him and was like, dude, please. And he was actually like, really not nice about it made us pay him like a, a large amount of money to use his damn drum kit. But I did it cuz I was like, I'm not gonna look like an idiot. Yeah. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get it together. Yeah. And so I had him and we played on time too. That was pretty bad. I learned my lesson too on double, triple checking everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:23 Yeah. You'll, you'll have that sometimes on those. Yeah. On those Oxford and Mississippi big jobs, you know Uhhuh.
Speaker 2 00:25:29 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:25:30 For
Speaker 1 00:25:31 Real. Where do you got, you got are are getting back out in the road soon, right?
Speaker 2 00:25:34 Soon, yeah. In a couple weeks.
Speaker 3 00:25:36 The 15th, 14th or 15th. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:39 You guys know where you're going?
Speaker 2 00:25:41 We're going to Flint, Michigan.
Speaker 3 00:25:44 Oh, Columbus.
Speaker 1 00:25:45 Columbus, Ohio. You guys doing Milwaukee in there too?
Speaker 2 00:25:47 Wait, I think maybe.
Speaker 3 00:25:49 I know we have machine shop. I don't remember what the, should I look?
Speaker 1 00:25:53 I don't know. Cause usually, usually that run is like the Bluestone. Yes. It's the machine shop and then the rave up in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 00:26:01 Yes, it is the rave.
Speaker 1 00:26:02 That's a great run. All right. That's wild. Those are some good fucking spots. Yeah. Really
Speaker 3 00:26:06 That's, that is where
Speaker 1 00:26:07 It's, yes. Those are a lot of fun. So the Bluestone Columbus, obviously it's a college town, osu, all them crazy Ohio State fans. But it's like an old church that got converted into a music venue and it's Oh wow. Gorgeous. Oh
Speaker 3 00:26:19 It's
Speaker 2 00:26:20 Beautiful. Oh, that's cool. What's
Speaker 1 00:26:21 It called? The Bluestone. Okay. And so that'd be cool. Big green room area. Plenty of room for heavens. And the openers. I think you'll, you should have pretty good green room space at all three of these. Maybe not machine shop, but you should
Speaker 3 00:26:33 Have. Yeah. Machine shop doesn't really have much, but,
Speaker 1 00:26:35 But machine shops cool.
Speaker 3 00:26:35 It's such a cool venue though that like, you can't get like upset that they don't have a grade for you, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:26:41 Machine guess I'll be doing my makeup of the car. Can't drive.
Speaker 1 00:26:44 Sorry. You'll have to time her and report back to us. How long it takes <laugh>?
Speaker 2 00:26:48 I'm pretty quick actually. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:26:49 You don't, no, I mean you don't take I'm pretty quick. That's good. That's good. Machine shop's cool because it's like you're in a, um, you're in a tattoo parlor in Antioch, but it's a venue. Yeah. It's got vibes to it. Nice. Yeah. And then there's a sandwich shop next door and they always say don't drink the water in Flint. You gotta be careful. You gotta watch the water there. I heard it's a rowdy crowd. A lot of Canadians come down for those shows. Really? So you'll see a lot of, you'll meet a lot of your Canadian fans. Oh, that's cool. It's not far over the border, but there's a cheese steak place next door of all places. You'd think Philly and Jersey and Northeast has cheese sticks. No, Flint, Michigan really has these, fuck has this sandwich shop that's right next door to the machine shop. I want to go any farther than that in the city of Flint, <laugh>. But tho that little don't venture out those two buildings right there. Yeah. Solid. And then the rave. You familiar with that place at all? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:27:37 <affirmative>? No, that's one I'm not
Speaker 1 00:27:39 Familiar with. So the Rave, that's the spot where there's the, there's the pool, the Mac, Miller, the pool. When Mac Miller signed his name before he passed away. Oh yeah. Oh, a place that's haunted as shit. That's
Speaker 2 00:27:49 Right. Okay. That's cool. I I've seen a lot of like content.
Speaker 1 00:27:53 Yeah, it is. So it's a's a building that's got, it's kind of similar to like the intersection up in Grand Rapids. Yeah. That's a farm where there's, there's multiple venues in the one building. Okay. So they'll have like three or four shows going on at once. No way.
Speaker 2 00:28:06 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:28:06 And they'll all, you won't, it won't, they won't affect each other. So like That's cool. The, um, the Rave, it's like, upstairs is a big ballroom, like a massive proper bike, couple thousand person ballroom. Then downstairs there's like a bar, a smaller like bar stage that holds probably like 4 50, 500 mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Then there's like a clubs area that's like eight 50 to like 900. Then there's another venue in the basement. And then when you go down in the basement, that's where the shit starts getting weird, haunted and like Okay. Do you do well with scary stuff? Like are you, uh, um, are you into like, I mean, were you into the Jeffrey Dom? Did you watch the Jeffrey Dahmer thing on Netflix?
Speaker 2 00:28:42 No, I like really don't watch a lot of movies or shows cuz my attention span is really short. But I like, I mean I don't love horror movies, but I do like, like haunted stuff. Okay. I think it's interesting. I
Speaker 1 00:28:55 Think it's cool. Yeah. When you guys are there, definitely have them like give you the the tour cause they'll
Speaker 2 00:28:59 Okay, we will, I'll bring you
Speaker 1 00:29:01 For sure. And who's are those shows with? Uh, with Lil. With with Lily. Okay. Yeah. I'm sure you'll be able to go down there with I'm
Speaker 2 00:29:06 Sure she'll wanna do. She loves to do stuff like that. Yeah. And she always is wanting to do, like, she'll make the most of being
Speaker 1 00:29:12 In the tent. Yeah. So one of the stories about that place is that across the street, so there's like tunnels though. It used to be, it was like a, like a, like a Eagles club or like something like some like big like recreational thingy like club or whatever. And then like a bunch of bad shit apparently happened. There's some most h most haunted places. Yeah. Uh, but across the street was one of the hotels where Jeffrey Dahmer used to stay, uh, and there's like a tunnel or something that connects the hotel to the venue. And he would go meet people at the venue, bring 'em back to the hotel, do his Jeffrey Dahmer shit.
Speaker 2 00:29:44 Oh my God.
Speaker 1 00:29:45 There's some vibe. Dude. Dude, there's some weird there. And then also there's that pool in the basement where they say a lot of the, the supernatural haunted activity is, and right before he had passed away, Mack Miller wrote, signed, signed that he is like my, yeah. I'm Mac Miller here. I've sold this bitch out three times. I was once living, now I'm dead. Then he died like a month later. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:30:06 Holy mo.
Speaker 1 00:30:07 Yeah. And they have, they have it like plexiglass. They have it like framed like inside, like you can go down inside of the pool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:12 All right. We gotta do that. No,
Speaker 3 00:30:13 We could. No. So before I started playing with Noah, I like followed him and I'm, there's a post where they went out there and he, they all like tagged it cuz I used to follow all those guys. Yeah. Before that gig happened. And Yeah, they posted that cuz I've, no, I, when you said about the pool thing and Mac Miller, I was like Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:30:30 Yeah. We'll have to do. That's, I actually like, cuz I haven't been anywhere, all everywhere that we've gone is like pretty much my first, it's my first time being,
Speaker 3 00:30:38 I don't know these places. I'm kind of scared to go now. I started, I mean, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer's not the only one that does that kinda thing, you know? I mean, I,
Speaker 1 00:30:47 I think he's the thing. I don't think there's that many, but he
Speaker 2 00:30:50 Never, motherfucker,
Speaker 3 00:30:51 No dude, there's awful lot of forensic files out there man. There is, you know, <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:30:57 I love to watch forensic files. Like okay. I don't know why, but like my parents always will have it on. Yeah. Like if they're like cooking dinner, they always have forensic files on. Oh yeah. And we always talk about how I have never, never in my life seen the same episode twice.
Speaker 3 00:31:10 Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:31:11 Not once there is all, there are endless forensic vials. Exactly. And those are just the people that make it on tv. So
Speaker 3 00:31:19 You're not telling me anything new. I know
Speaker 1 00:31:21 This what I will tell you, I will tell you as, so you haven't really gone up to the Midwest a ton. Not a
Speaker 2 00:31:26 Ton for shows.
Speaker 1 00:31:27 Okay. No, not a ton up there. The fans up there are fantastic and
Speaker 2 00:31:31 They yeah. They've been great with the
Speaker 1 00:31:33 Shows that we play. Yeah. And the farther away I think you get from Nashville the more the appreciation for country music is. If that makes sense. Because Yeah. Actually we're big, like up in New York where I'm from, anytime an artist would come through, no matter how matter if it was Jason Alde at Madison Square Garden or, or it was freaking like, like guys like, um, like, like Morgan or Luke Comb starting out in like 2015, uh, 2016 playing, playing smaller rooms or like people traveling in personal vehicles driving up to New York. Either way we'd go because we never had, we'd just, they that the number of shows whereas like in Oxford and, and Clemson, you got their bar bands are a thing. Oh yeah. Bar bands aren't a thing back home in New York or up in the Midwest. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:32:15 I love that because you, I mean like we get in such a bubble in Nashville. Yeah. Like you just, it's, we're a little too close to it, you know, so it's really cool to like just see how people react outside of it that like don't, they're not overthinking the songs. Yeah. They're just like there for
Speaker 1 00:32:31 A good time. Yeah. The Nashville bubble thing I think is, is also real if you're in the, it's industry. Because like if you asked me about current events right now, I like, I know the baseball season starts soon. Mm-hmm. Go Yankees. But aside, aside from that, like there's, I couldn't tell you what's going on with, with politics or, or this or I can't tell you what the groundhog, if you saw a shadow or not. Yeah. Like all this stuff. The, the normal, the like the or reality TV or this or that. Like the pop culture talks about the rest of the country. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> or in like a bubble here in Nashville. Oh yeah. Do you feel like you've always kinda had that being from here or is growing up here different? No,
Speaker 2 00:33:09 I do not think I've always had that. I think like it's the industry bubble. Okay. I really think that. And sometimes it's a good thing cuz it, it is just like sometimes I don't wanna know about, I don't wanna know what's going on in politics.
Speaker 1 00:33:20 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:33:20 Same. I don't wanna know. Yeah. But no, I don't think I've always had, I think, I mean growing up like the age is, you're so different. Like, experiencing Nashville as like a middle school or a high schooler is just different than being an adult. It's same in any town. Right. Yeah. But I think coming back here and being like in the industry like side of things, it's just different. It's so, which I, in a lot of ways I like it. It's cool. I think it's like a really cool like community that sounds like a cheesy word, but it just is. It's cool. There's cool people. We're all kinda, everybody's kinda la la <laugh> like just not normal in, in a good way. Yeah. But it also is a bubble. I mean like, especially in the songwriting side of things, you can get in such a bubble cuz you're like overthinking the hell out of every song and trying to make sure everything is so smart. And I love that. I love like, I love a smart hook in a song, but sometimes you're like, all right. Like when we're on the road, I'm not thinking about that at all.
Speaker 1 00:34:21 Oh. The road has to be such a nice release for
Speaker 2 00:34:23 You. Im going to Bubba in Ohio who is there for a good time.
Speaker 1 00:34:27 We love, we love you Bubba. Shout out. Shout out. Love
Speaker 2 00:34:30 You. I love Bubba. Bubba keeps me in the whole thing, you know? Yeah. Because you're not thinking about that. You're, you're like actually getting to see it through. You play the songs and you see how people react or, or don't react. Yeah. And it's just cool. Like it's, there are things there. Yes. The bubble's always gonna be there, but there's ways to get out of it. There's ways to break out of the bubble and it's, you just have to do it. Like, you just gotta get outta of town
Speaker 1 00:34:53 Honestly. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Um, another thing with, with being in, in Nashville, um, have you seen like the teams grow in popularity? Like was the, have the Preds always been as popular? Oh, you were teams?
Speaker 2 00:35:06 I was like what do you
Speaker 1 00:35:06 Mean? Like the team? Oh, I mean, I mean the s sec thing. I feel like Vanderbilt's always kind of been a sad story. Vanderbilt Vanderbilt's always been a little sad, you know? Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:35:13 Exactly. Yeah. Um, I mean I guess literally are
Speaker 1 00:35:16 You, are you a big sports
Speaker 2 00:35:17 Person? I'm gonna be honest, I'm not a big sports person. Okay. I, I follow Ole Miss Football and Ole Miss Baseball and that's it. And even that, like, I just listen to what my dad tells me. Yeah. The updates my dad because I don't like, I'm not,
Speaker 1 00:35:30 Well like I remember, I remember hearing stories, it was cause I got down here October of 2018. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it was coming up on five years, which was flown by. But like the summer before I came down here was when that magic the stars aligned of just chaos downtown. Yeah. You had CMA Fest and the Preds in the Stanley Cup at the same, what was that fucking time? That was 2018. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:35:51 That's a miserable
Speaker 1 00:35:52 I June, June of 2018. Like do you remember that time in Nashville? And Yes. Were you, cuz you weren't in school at that
Speaker 2 00:35:58 Point. I was in high school. Well I had just gra Wait no you me, in college. I had just finished my first year of college I guess. Yeah. But I was in Nashville cause it was summertime. Yeah. So I would like spend half the summer in Nashville, half in Oxford. And Yes, I remember that cuz I have, we were big CMA Fest goers too. My whole life. I haven't missed a CMA fest since I was like 10. Truly. And so we like, we that we would save the energy all year for Cmma Fest. And so that, when, when the pre, when was the, was it around the same time or it was
Speaker 1 00:36:29 The same week?
Speaker 2 00:36:29 Yeah. So we went, like all of our high school friends were like back from college, first year of college. And we all went down to Bridgestone and we didn't get tickets to get in or I guess it wasn't at,
Speaker 1 00:36:41 It was like they had the watch party set up on street. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:36:44 They had the on the street projector outside of Bridgestones. We all like sat outside of Bridgestone or not sat, but like watch. And then we went out on Broadway and then it was like Cmma Fest too. So we literally did all of it. <laugh>. Yeah. And that was fun cuz I never, like I never cared about the Pres. Really? I still don't. Yeah. I mean I'm not, if I'm cheering for a team, I'm gonna cheer for the Preds. Just
Speaker 1 00:37:05 No, you're but you're not focused on, on hockey year football or any of
Speaker 2 00:37:08 Of that. No, but that was fun cuz like everybody cared and everybody was like fired up about it and downtown was just like crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:37:15 So that was cool. Yeah. The wildest, I remember downtown cuz having worked down there in BC before Covid <laugh>, um, I, uh, cause those great, cause those are different chapters in all of our lives. Totally. I was having lived through that stuff Uhhuh, but um, I remember when they had the NFL draft here.
Speaker 2 00:37:32 Oh
Speaker 1 00:37:32 Yeah. The NFL draft. That was chaos. Cuz usually Where was that? That was, um, 2019. Whoa. So right before Covid. That was that that um, that spring of 2019. Yeah, because I remember they had, they had the draft and um, usually you, you get accustomed when you're downtown, whenever whoever's playing the Titans or whoever's playing the predators, their fan base is coming to town too. So Yeah. Philly's coming in, you're gonna deal with shitty Philadelphia Eagles fans. Oh yeah. You're gonna deal with Patriots fans. You're gonna Ole Misses and town playing Vanderbilt. You're gonna see Hottie Toddie everywhere. Like you're, you, you get
Speaker 2 00:38:05 This, you travel in packs.
Speaker 1 00:38:06 Yes. But the NFL draft, you have the diehards from every single team. That's a scary thing. Descending on Na Descending on Nashville for a whole week. Indeed. And that was the wildest side scene. But you're talking about CMA Fest and how you didn't miss one growing up. Oh yeah. How's it feel now to be playing?
Speaker 2 00:38:23 Oh, it's wild. It's so weird. Like
Speaker 1 00:38:26 This is Will this be your first one playing? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:38:28 Oh yeah. This will be my first one playing. Like
Speaker 1 00:38:30 How, how crazy
Speaker 2 00:38:30 Is, I don't feel like I've really like wrapped my head around it yet. Like, I'm so excited, but I don't, I don't think it'll
Speaker 1 00:38:37 Hit me. Which, which stage do they have you
Speaker 2 00:38:38 On? The Maui, what's it, Maui gym. Yeah. Yes. And so, I mean, I literally am so excited, especially cuz like, I mean when I say we were die hard CMA fests. I mean like we had like in the app, we had like our schedules filled out and we would go see every little artist.
Speaker 1 00:38:57 Who were the little artists you remember watching that? Like, cuz you, you growing up here, oh God, you got to see them all as they were coming up mean,
Speaker 2 00:39:04 I'm trying to think like, of the time, like it depends on the era. Like I remember
Speaker 1 00:39:08 I did see, did you see Taylor Swift as she was
Speaker 2 00:39:10 Coming up? Yeah, but she wasn't a little artist though. I, I saw her at the, at Nissan. It was LP Field back then. Um, she played like, she like closed out the whole week, I'm pretty sure. And that was crazy. I remember she wore like a, she wore like her classic gold sparkly dress. Yeah. And she had like glitter on her arms and my dad took me and my older sister. That was crazy. I remember. And just, I don't know, my sister was always really, really savvy on like who was the up and coming. And so she would always have it planned, like who we were gonna
Speaker 1 00:39:43 Go. There's always an a and r in the group. Yeah. There's in the friend group, the family or the friend group?
Speaker 2 00:39:48 No, literally. And it was her. And so, I don't know. I mean like, I, I, I could, I'd have to think back to cuz there were so many different eras of like young people. I remember we used to love this girl Mallory, hope, who I think she does Christian now. Yeah. But she was doing country a long time ago. We would always go see where she was gonna play. Um, probably Caitlyn Smith, like way back in the day. We would also, like, if there were rounds going on, we would go see the round. Like we would do everything. I remember seeing Cassie Ashton when she was like first getting started. She played CMA Fest. Like this was y like years, years ago. Just so many. Yeah. But then we'd go, so we'd do that all day, then we'd go home. We had like all our little like childhood friends would camp out at my parents' house all week. We all lived in Nashville. But my, for whatever reason, our house was like the home base. So they'd pack a bag, stay for the week. We'd get up in the morning, go see all the, like the river stage, all those people, and then come home, shower, then go to LP field at night. And like before we were like old enough to go by ourselves, we would pick one parent from the group to go every night. They like were on shifts. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:40:56 That's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:40:57 It was fun.
Speaker 1 00:40:57 You got some cool parents and like you, you do, you grew, you grew up like in, so that's such a cool way to grow up in Nashville. I know. Because there's, so there's ways, like I have friends, like when I first moved down here, my, um, my first roommate's name was, was uh, Dakota. Mm-hmm. He was a door, another security guy at Whiskey Row. He grew up in Spring Hill. So a little south of town or Antioch. Then his family lived in or moved to Spring Hill or whatever, so mm-hmm. But he was always like kind of resentful of, of the music thing. And his, his dad was, his dad was like a producer in the Christian world and all that stuff. Oh totally. Yeah. But, but there's, but there's folks that don't, that aren't into what Nashville has the kind of look at. We don't like all these, all these tourists, all these transplants moving here. We, we don't, like there's people that are probably from here that leave during CMA Fest cuz it gets so crazy.
Speaker 2 00:41:44 Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:41:44 I get it. But, but the fact that y'all, that you grew up loving it. Oh yeah. And like your family loves it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and just, that's such like a perfect match.
Speaker 2 00:41:50 Yeah. I mean I just, I I think it was so like, and Broadway was so different back then too. And it was just, everything was so old Nashville. And also like, my parents aren't in music and so I think that was probably another reason I never was burnt out on it. They were just music lovers.
Speaker 1 00:42:06 What do they do?
Speaker 2 00:42:07 My mom's an artist, like a painting artist, not a music artist. So she's like super creative. She's always like, she, she paints, I don't know what it's called, I'm not a painter, but like,
Speaker 1 00:42:17 She's these really cool painting, not painting like buying Ross Happy trees. Right?
Speaker 2 00:42:20 Well kind of. I mean she'll do like landscape stuff in the houses. She likes to paint like pictures of people's houses. Yeah. And then, but she'll also, like she's always painting furniture or something. Like she's just always doing something. Creative arts. Yes. So that's where the art thing
Speaker 1 00:42:34 Is. So you got your first view, uh, album covers all worked out. Yeah, totally. You got an artist in the film. It's all in house. Baby in
Speaker 2 00:42:39 House. Exactly. And then my dad is sells health insurance. <laugh>. Oh, awesome. Balance. We got balance has the creative and the business mind, which that is honestly, that has really fed me. Cuz my dad, like, he's a businessman. He's smart. And, and then my mom's very creative, so I think that's cool. But they just, I mean I never was like, I never saw behind the curtain of the industry or whatever when I was a kid. Like they were just, my parents were Nashville lovers. My dad is from Mississippi, my mom is from Nashville. So they just like, loved the town and loved country music. So that's just how I grew up.
Speaker 1 00:43:11 That's awesome. Yeah. That's, that's that's such a, such like a unique story too. Cause there aren't a lot of people that are from Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:43:17 It was very pure.
Speaker 1 00:43:18 That's so do you adopt the term? Like do you, do you accept the term unicorn? I mean,
Speaker 2 00:43:22 I guess I can't, I can't not accept
Speaker 1 00:43:24 There, there's people that get that get mad about it. Like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3 00:43:27 Mad about it. Oh
Speaker 1 00:43:27 Really? But there, but even someone that's like from Clarksville is like, don't you'll be calling me a unicorn man. And I'm like, bro, you're from Clarksville. That's like an hour away. Sorry. You're fringe unicorn. You're not actually Yeah. From, from in the shit. No, I'm not mad at it. So you guys are, you guys are driving, you pull into a loves what are what, what do you, what is, tell me what you think she's gonna get and tell me what you think he's gonna get. Do you know what I, what's her loves Know one thing. What's her, what's her pulling into Loves, oh God. On the road. I'm
Speaker 3 00:43:56 Trying to remember now
Speaker 1 00:43:57 Whether it's like a skinny
Speaker 3 00:43:59 Pop. May that's more of a melody thing. Melanie thing.
Speaker 2 00:44:00 Melanie Melanie's my today she'll get skinny
Speaker 3 00:44:03 Pop. Dang. You always fill up your water bottle one way or the other.
Speaker 2 00:44:07 I stay drinking my water.
Speaker 3 00:44:08 She's got this ginormous like gallon day hydro flash thing and she, it's
Speaker 2 00:44:13 Not a hydro,
Speaker 1 00:44:13 It's a knock on. I got a hydro flash. Shout mine to friends from Bud Light. No, you go
Speaker 3 00:44:17 Bud
Speaker 1 00:44:18 Light. Yeah. New friends. All right.
Speaker 3 00:44:19 But yeah, so that's filled up. I'm trying to think of what you would like me
Speaker 2 00:44:22 Buy. Okay. I'll tell you. I'll, you're, you're, uh, I can tell you're nervous. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 00:44:26 Yeah, I have no, I actually don't know. He's
Speaker 2 00:44:29 Okay. This is kind of we no isn This isn't weird but random. My favorite, my go-to gas station snack is combos. Oh
Speaker 3 00:44:38 Yeah. Have you ever had those?
Speaker 1 00:44:38 Yeah, they're crackers. My
Speaker 2 00:44:40 Cheese ones cheese and cracker ones. I love
Speaker 3 00:44:43 Them. Do you
Speaker 1 00:44:43 Get the original or Do you like the pizza one? Doesn't that like, I don't
Speaker 2 00:44:45 Ones the pizza ones. I get the cheese crackers. Like the, they're pretty normal. They're
Speaker 3 00:44:51 Pretty original. Yeah. They're normal. One. Do
Speaker 2 00:44:53 You want And then I get a Diet Coke and
Speaker 1 00:44:54 Coffee. Diet coke.
Speaker 3 00:44:56 Okay. What would I get? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:57 Do you, do you know,
Speaker 3 00:44:58 I'm curious.
Speaker 2 00:44:58 I feel like you're gonna get something different every time.
Speaker 3 00:45:01 I do because they don't have exactly what I want.
Speaker 1 00:45:03 It's the Oh yeah. A vape.
Speaker 2 00:45:04 He'll get a vape. Um,
Speaker 3 00:45:06 No.
Speaker 2 00:45:07 Okay. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:45:08 Not on the road.
Speaker 2 00:45:10 That is not true.
Speaker 3 00:45:11 You're totally, totally,
Speaker 1 00:45:12 You totally got one of these.
Speaker 3 00:45:13 Well, I'm not shaming you. There's nothing. No. What else?
Speaker 2 00:45:16 Uh, <laugh>. I feel like, oh, maybe like a, like a Gatorade or something.
Speaker 3 00:45:24 If I can, I'll get like a watermelon Propel and then like pretzel boom.
Speaker 1 00:45:28 Bougie little ass over there. A watermelon. Propel slightly chilled.
Speaker 3 00:45:33 Yeah. If I can, I'll
Speaker 2 00:45:34 Take a watermelon Propel if I can. Sorry, I couldn't guess that.
Speaker 1 00:45:38 I didn't even know that shit existed.
Speaker 3 00:45:39 Oh, yeah, dude, it's, it's
Speaker 2 00:45:42 Propel. You had a Propel in the car on the way here.
Speaker 3 00:45:44 <laugh>. Yep. I had to get one better. So
Speaker 2 00:45:46 What is your snack?
Speaker 3 00:45:48 The snack will be the, the, oh, I mean, if it's not, if it's not candy
Speaker 1 00:45:53 Fuel, nicotine and electrolytes,
Speaker 3 00:45:55 Baby, it
Speaker 2 00:45:55 Does kill the appetite.
Speaker 3 00:45:57 If it's not the m and ms, it'd probably be like cheese puffs. Like the Cheeto cheese puffs. Yeah. Like, hey, I can give you a bunch of those. Dude, you can't, you can't get the, like you've got some, some
Speaker 1 00:46:08 Leftover bus side. Yeah. We'll feed, we'll feed you. Heck yeah. And then have you guys, have you so loves is like the go-to, or you guys have been in the Southeast so much, you've probably been spoiled and been able to stop at Bucky's. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:46:19 Yeah. We stop at Bucky's whenever we can.
Speaker 3 00:46:21 I'm a love guy. Hard. He is a love guy. I'm I, buckies buggies
Speaker 1 00:46:24 Guy. I'm, there's one in every crew because
Speaker 3 00:46:26 I'm not the Bucky's guy.
Speaker 2 00:46:27 I mean, I like, I love, I love loves I do. But I, but Bucky's, why would you not stop there if you
Speaker 1 00:46:34 Came? So, for, for us, we were head out of, we were like meeting up and doing our calls down in Alabama. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> down in, uh, Leeds, which is right next to the Bucky's that's outside of Birmingham in Leeds. So we would get Bucky's when we'd get down there and then we'd get Bucky's before we'd come back to Nashville. So we were getting Bucky's twice a weekend. Yeah. Every weekend. Yeah. For a long time we'd do it too. But also Bucky's, uh, coming from a, from a toma, again, I've never been, I'm not an artist. I'm not a writer. I'm not a musician. I'm a, I'm a crew guy. You know, the road I'm a to, I'm mergers and acquisitions, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so we, um, it adds a lot of time.
Speaker 2 00:47:12 Yeah. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 00:47:13 Bucky's is a, is a stop. Loves is a quick little popin. It's like a, like a pit stop, you know? Yeah. Like you're getting your tires rotate and going back out on the, on the track. You're on a mission. Yeah. But Bucky's
Speaker 3 00:47:24 Bucky's is like, you stop to see the world's largest rock Yeah. <laugh>. And you gotta take pictures with the world's largest rock and you gotta buy the souvenirs. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2 00:47:32 Especially,
Speaker 3 00:47:32 And then you gotta get food too, you know? Cause Yeah. You stopped.
Speaker 2 00:47:35 There's so much, especially for me, cuz like, I'll get, I get overwhelmed, like with lots of options. Oh. And I just wanna wander. So I'll go wander around and then I'm like, and then sometimes you'll hit it at a bad time and there's a lot of people there. Oh dude, that stresses
Speaker 1 00:47:50 Me out. Have you hit post church? Bucky's? Oh
Speaker 3 00:47:51 My, yeah. God.
Speaker 1 00:47:52 Post church Bies Yes. Is something
Speaker 2 00:47:55 Me and my, I've just, I any road trip, even if we're not like playing shows on the road, anytime I am on a road trip, like I will stop at Bucky's and I, like, one time me and my sister went and we had been like, we had been in New Orleans for the weekend. We were like, it was a rough drive. Yeah. And the first place we stopped was Bucky's. And it was just like, the most more people than I've ever seen in there. And we were just like, trying to go to the bathroom and we were like, this is the line was out the door and it was just like
Speaker 1 00:48:25 A mess. A line for the bathroom.
Speaker 3 00:48:26 Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:48:27 See I've never seen line for the, but then again, maybe that's me being dirty.
Speaker 2 00:48:30 There's, there's not a lot of
Speaker 1 00:48:31 Times. I've never had a line at the Bucky's bathroom.
Speaker 2 00:48:34 It's,
Speaker 3 00:48:34 I've, I think I've had it one time,
Speaker 2 00:48:36 Couple times. I've had it happen a couple of times. But I'm not hating on Bucky's. I love
Speaker 3 00:48:40 Bucky's. See, I'm more of an Iowa 80 kind of guy.
Speaker 1 00:48:43 Well, a
Speaker 3 00:48:43 What? Iowa 80 have, do you know what Iowa 80 is? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 00:48:47 Oh, is that, uh,
Speaker 1 00:48:49 You been there before? No, I think I'm
Speaker 3 00:48:51 Seen the world's largest truck stop. It's in Iowa. We've been close.
Speaker 2 00:48:54 I've
Speaker 3 00:48:54 Never been. Yeah. So I'm spoiled because I there before I went to Bucky's.
Speaker 1 00:49:00 Where was this? Is it in Iowa?
Speaker 3 00:49:01 It's in Iowa. So I used to do this show every year in White Tail. It was at Whitetail Saloon. So, uh, Clarence, Iowa I think is where it was. And we would like 20, 30 miles outside of the venue. We'll pass Iowa 80. And that was the first like, big truck stop I'd went to. They have like a whole like 18 wheeler inside. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1 00:49:24 Probably the biggest
Speaker 3 00:49:25 Restaurants. It's like a full food court.
Speaker 2 00:49:27 Okay. So I was about to ask if it's bigger than Bucky's answers.
Speaker 1 00:49:30 Oh, it's probably the biggest building within like four counties of Iowa. Oh yeah, sure. Drive through Iowa. You can see from Miles cuz there ain't nothing for Miles. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:49:38 The high school looks like a speck compared to this place. <laugh>. Like, it's humongous. It's great
Speaker 1 00:49:43 Though. It's the field of dreams and it's of truck stops in Iowa.
Speaker 3 00:49:46 It's so, it's so big too that like, there's, I don't think you could get enough people in there to like, fill it up like at a, as a gas station, truck stop, whatever. I don't know. I feel like people don't overcrowd it like they do at Bucky's. So that's why I just, yeah. It's so great. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:50:02 Bucky's is also just cleaner because you don't have those truckers. Yeah. Like we spent a lot of times traveling around in this thing called the Bandwagon. Have you ever seen a bandwagon? Yes. You familiar with that? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:50:13 I think <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:50:14 What'd he say? He said fuck those things. Oh
Speaker 3 00:50:17 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:50:18 Not really. Not really. They're better than a van.
Speaker 2 00:50:20 Wait, what? Okay,
Speaker 1 00:50:21 What is that? So it's like a, it's a freight liner truck. So it's like a truck chassis and then like the front part's separate from like the middle part. Oh. And then it's got like nine bunks in it. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:50:32 Oh, okay. It's like in between, between like a bunked out sprinter and a bus. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:50:36 Yeah. The bunks are bigger than Sprinter bunks. Yeah. Which is nice. And you pull a trailer with it. But like, so a lot of people will, will, um, hire a driver. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> or with our situation, I, I was the driver or sweet boy was the driver and you're, you're pulling 63 feet and you're only, it only goes 65 and maxes out as a governor. That maxes out at 65 miles per hour. So you take a while to go through stuff. But we spent, I say that to say we spent a lot of nights parked at a Love's or at a pilot or dare I say a Flying J or a Petro or a TA or some weird shit.
Speaker 3 00:51:10 See flying js are cool too for me. Whoa.
Speaker 1 00:51:12 What, what do you
Speaker 3 00:51:13 Flying like flying Js and pilots or like, you're
Speaker 1 00:51:17 Just greasy.
Speaker 3 00:51:17 I don't know. Greasy. It's not love, but like,
Speaker 1 00:51:21 It's not love. It's
Speaker 3 00:51:22 Better than Exxon. They got, they got
Speaker 1 00:51:23 Pizza and that's about, that's the only thing I'd give. Flying Jay and Pilate over. Yeah. Pi. What else is Fucked? Loves has, it's usually like a Subway or a Hardee's or McDonald's. Or McDonald's. Oh yeah. You know what, you know what the most common thing is for a pilot or a Flying Jay?
Speaker 3 00:51:37 What? Like Hardee's
Speaker 1 00:51:38 Fucking Denny's. Uhuh. Nobody wants a day.
Speaker 3 00:51:42 Wait, I've never seen that one. Isn't MJ a pilot guy? I think he is. I think he is too. Our drummer MJ loves pilot. I think he is a boat. Be covered Syrup. Dude. Fucking they do that. If that's not true, he's gonna be like, why would you do that? You can get like a pie card too. Oh yeah. Like five to 10 cents off every time you use it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:51:59 You can get a Loves Card too. You can get a Loves card. I have a Loves app. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:52:03 Every every hundred dollars you spend, you get a free shower.
Speaker 1 00:52:05 Yeah. I've got like seven sh I've got like seven showers saved up.
Speaker 3 00:52:08 A hundred shower. They give you a towel with it. Hey
Speaker 4 00:52:11 You get gas head on those. So it's
Speaker 3 00:52:13 Great.
Speaker 1 00:52:13 Yeah. Yeah. The water pressure in those loves truck stop showers is pretty good. I will say had
Speaker 3 00:52:19 The shower. That's why I've never had to do, I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 00:52:21 I'm waiting for the day that it, it happens. Cause it's
Speaker 3 00:52:24 Gonna, it'll
Speaker 1 00:52:24 Cause the thing is too, a lot of buses don't have showers on them. Yeah. Most buses don't have showers on 'em. So a lot of people, if the venue doesn't have a shower, you don't got a hotel go somewhere you're gonna stop at Love's while the driver's fueling up. Everybody's gonna go in there and get a shower. The bandwagon has a shower in it. But you have, you're responsible for making sure that the water tank stays up. Yeah. So you
Speaker 3 00:52:43 Gotta bring
Speaker 1 00:52:44 A hose. Yeah. So you could be out in the middle of Texas where it's in the summer and it's dry. Yeah. And there ain't no water and you're outta water.
Speaker 3 00:52:53 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:52:53 And you run the some of those Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:52:54 Recently heads up the shower or the bandwagons have went up to about as much as the cost of a bus.
Speaker 1 00:53:01 Really? That's
Speaker 3 00:53:02 Seriously? Yeah, I heard about it. Well, Langston and them used to running one and they just bumped back to a sprinter. A bumped out or I don't think it's bumped, but a sprinter. Yeah. Because I've heard the prices of those were starting to jump. They
Speaker 4 00:53:13 Jumped, they jumped big time. Cuz we were supposed to take one out this weekend and we're, we're not.
Speaker 1 00:53:19 Yeah. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. Everything's gone. I mean, like you talking about Buckies, it's $9 for a Bucky sandwich now. Oh my God. I remember when that shit was. 4 99 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:53:27 I get a Bucky sandwich and like a small bag of chips and it's like $20.
Speaker 1 00:53:31 Yeah. What's your, what's your go Or or is it
Speaker 2 00:53:33 Different? I
Speaker 1 00:53:33 Get trail mix. You get,
Speaker 2 00:53:35 I get trail
Speaker 1 00:53:35 Mix. You know when the buckies all you walk out with is trail
Speaker 2 00:53:37 Mix. Well that's the first thing I go to. But then I'll always will get something random. Like I'll get a sandwich, like whatever I like to browse. Okay. <laugh>. Or I'll get like some sort of random niche bies thing. Like some kind of weird chocolate covered, something
Speaker 3 00:53:53 Chocolate covered on Beaver.
Speaker 1 00:53:54 Be nugget nuggets be, I don't like the, I don't Beaver nuggets.
Speaker 2 00:53:58 No, I've got 'em over. I don't like them. I've,
Speaker 1 00:53:59 I've
Speaker 2 00:54:00 Got, I'm not like, I don't like kettle corn type things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:03 To me it's like corn pop. It's like corn puffs or corn pops mixed with fucking kettle corn. I've been, I've had the munchies late night after gigs. Oh yeah. And gone through, gone through more, more of that bag than I should have of that big bag of beaver nuggets. Those things are dangerous. Yeah. And they will, they will uh, they will get you. Um, what's been like your favorite place that you've gone so far? As far as like, oh
Speaker 2 00:54:27 God gigs. I don't know if I can
Speaker 1 00:54:29 And you can't say Oxford cuz you've been there quite.
Speaker 2 00:54:31 Yeah. Well, I don't know if I can, I have to think like,
Speaker 1 00:54:34 Or do you not get much time in these places? Like it's very get
Speaker 2 00:54:37 There. We don't mean we don't really see much of the city, but I mean, just talking venues, like I really have liked playing Rick's. I think I've had a good time. No, it was really fun both times I've played there. But also like in general, I, I love to play a college town. I feel like, especially with the level that I'm at, where nobody really knows who I am yet. Those are kind of my people. Yeah. You know, like I, I have, I still have a lot of friends that live in college towns and you know, so people will come out. But I, I just love the energy. There's something about we played in Athens. It was so fun.
Speaker 1 00:55:09 Where in Athens were you? Georgia Theater. Oh. And that was with Lilly, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:55:13 It was awesome.
Speaker 1 00:55:14 Lily Rose in Athens, Georgia. That's, you're gonna see a diff side of Athens, Georgia. Most openers don't get to see. Right. Yeah. Because it's Lilly in fucking Athens.
Speaker 2 00:55:22 Yeah, exactly. And so, I, I just, I don't know, the energy is always just cool in a college town and it's like, it feels comfortable to me cuz I'm just used to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:55:31 Athens is wild too because they've, I think they've got more bars than the city of Nashville does, which is pretty crazy. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Technically if you're counting like the, the, the, the Athens like metro area or whatever mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they apparently, I think it's like over a hundred bars or something crazy like that. Oh geez. I don't know. I've never gotten bar hopping in Athens though. I think May, maybe once. But that's not one that I'm like Yeah. My eyes lit up for some reason. Yeah. It's this great college town. I always have fun there, but
Speaker 2 00:55:58 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well and also like going to Ole Miss, I knew so many Georgia kids, like kids that were from Georgia that couldn't get
Speaker 1 00:56:06 Into Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:56:07 And they would always rave about Athens and I was kind of like, okay, well whatever.
Speaker 1 00:56:12 Like, have you been to other towns in Georgia? Have you done other shows in ge? Oh yeah. Have you done other shows in Georgia?
Speaker 2 00:56:17 Yeah, we
Speaker 3 00:56:17 Have. Yeah, we did Rome.
Speaker 2 00:56:18 We did Rome. Oh, peaches. We did Milledgeville.
Speaker 1 00:56:21 Yeah. Milledgeville.
Speaker 2 00:56:22 I played in South Georgia.
Speaker 1 00:56:24 Did you do uh, I played Tifton. Or Statesboro.
Speaker 3 00:56:26 Yeah, I did Tifton one time. I don't think I have. And Statesboro.
Speaker 2 00:56:30 Yeah, I think,
Speaker 3 00:56:31 I hope we get a blue room date soon. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:56:33 You got, I hope so too. The blue room you will see like, you know the term safety school, right? Like safety school. Like that's where you, where do you go? Like you're talking about your friends again in the uga? Yeah. <laugh>, well, well Tifton and um, Georgia Southern definitely fall on that spectrum. And it is Uhhuh where people are good at. Uh, good at, good at three different, there there's a lot of three different things that go on there. There's a lot of, there's a lot of drinking. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, there's a lot of fighting. There's a lot of something else that starts with an F you know, it's just the wild, wild time down there. Uh, yeah. The crowds are just like, because like you said, like there's nothing like a college town. They're rowdy.
Speaker 3 00:57:10 Milledgeville is
Speaker 1 00:57:11 Crazy, Milledgeville is fucked. Milledgeville is nuts. That's not, I've had some, had some rough experiences there. Me as well. Rough experiences there. They get a little too into it. I mean there, there's a reason that Braley Gilbert wears brass knuckles on his microphone. That's where he's got his start. Was it? No one's built Georgia. You never know when you, you never know when you're gonna need to use them. But Statesboro is fun though because you've always got no matter, like, cuz people go in there like, like Paxton, Pete does the cover band thing. Trey used to do the cover band thing down there. There's always, there's just this builtin energy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and they just love their country music. Yeah. That's where, that's awesome. That's where Luke Bryan got his start. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Cole, Swindell, Dylan Marlowe, uh, Trey Landon, Brian Fuller, all those guys came up in that scene. So there's an electricity. So I look forward to hearing Yeah. Hearing about your Statesboro experience. Cause it's gonna happen. You're on the circuit to where
Speaker 2 00:58:00 Yeah. I feel like I've even heard of
Speaker 1 00:58:02 The blue room. Yeah. Gets the spot down there.
Speaker 2 00:58:05 Yeah. I think, I'm sure we'll get down there eventually. I'm excited. Rome was wild too. Yeah. Rome
Speaker 3 00:58:11 Rome was the
Speaker 1 00:58:11 Folks were at a party. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:58:13 Could The only other time I had been to Rome was like a year ago or sometime last year when Morgan played like
Speaker 1 00:58:22 Rome River Jam. Yeah. Something like that. Probably. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:58:24 Well, no, it was his, like he, it was his tour, I guess it was the Dangerous tour I think.
Speaker 1 00:58:31 Yeah. Or there's,
Speaker 2 00:58:32 He played a show in, in Rome and we all went down and it was wild. Yeah. Like it was so wild. He played at like some big fairground or something.
Speaker 1 00:58:40 Yeah. That's where they do Yeah. The fairgrounds that are down
Speaker 2 00:58:42 There. Yes. And it was crazy. They ran out of beer and all they had was like apple, like bush light apple or something.
Speaker 1 00:58:49 Oh geez.
Speaker 2 00:58:49 It was so crazy because there were so many people they like weren't, they didn't know it was gonna be that crazy. But then it, Rome was crazy when we played too. I liked it
Speaker 3 00:58:58 There. Yeah. Rome was fun. It's
Speaker 2 00:58:59 Fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:59:00 Yeah. You like that uh, that bathroom that's upstairs, the green room. You guys remember that?
Speaker 3 00:59:04 Yes. That's where,
Speaker 1 00:59:06 That's where Covid started. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:59:08 That was shower something else. The shower scared me.
Speaker 4 00:59:12 Don't flush to Cause it'll wake on the stage.
Speaker 2 00:59:14 Yeah. Yeah. It turns the shower on like when you wash the toilet <laugh> it
Speaker 1 00:59:20 Scared me. And that's a room that just has a shit ton of history in it.
Speaker 2 00:59:24 If you Oh yeah. You can tell.
Speaker 1 00:59:25 Well, well, I mean, just in the last, in the last 10 years, that's where like those were some of Luke Combs early gigs outside his own town. Oh yeah. You can feel it. So Muscatine bloodlines, early gigs, Riley Green's, early gigs, like all those guys came up back when it was called The Brew House. Yeah. Brew House. That was when it was even more was in it's old, in it's old heyday now. Now
Speaker 3 00:59:43 It's Peaches. Rc what was it? Rhc
Speaker 1 00:59:46 I think it, I think it went straight to Peaches.
Speaker 3 00:59:48 That was, I remember one that was a time in between or because you know, uh, chase Baker a Hunter Chestain. Yeah. I was talking to them cuz I knew it was named something else before. And Chase had said they switched like three times in a matter of like, I mean I think it was like five years maybe. Yeah, it was. Yeah. He said it was weird.
Speaker 1 01:00:06 Yeah. What I like about Rome too, and it's, and it's something that again, I've just kind of grown accustomed to it playing. Like they do it at Brew Ski and Hattiesburg as well. Yeah. One. Yeah. I played there after, as soon as the band gets done, it's immediately the DJ hits that button. Yes. It goes right into the fucking wobble. Yeah. And everybody starts getting for you. Yeah. And then you're trying, I
Speaker 2 01:00:27 Remember that from
Speaker 1 01:00:28 Hattiesburg. Then you're trying to load out or you're trying to like come down a little bit from the gig Uhhuh and then it's just wobble baby. Wobble baby w It's crazy.
Speaker 2 01:00:36 Yeah. It's like these people are just getting started.
Speaker 1 01:00:38 It turns into the boom poop room real quick.
Speaker 3 01:00:40 Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:00:42 Have you done Tuscaloosa yet?
Speaker 2 01:00:43 No, I haven't. I have not.
Speaker 3 01:00:45 Yeah, I haven't done that one either.
Speaker 1 01:00:47 You haven't even done that. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 01:00:48 <affirmative>, that's about
Speaker 1 01:00:49 Put like with all the cover bands. You,
Speaker 3 01:00:50 I'm trying to think. Tus, what would be, what's the venue? What's a
Speaker 1 01:00:54 Big one? GT's Red. She Copper top. Hopefully
Speaker 2 01:00:57 We
Speaker 1 01:00:57 Will go. GT's is a good, is a fun room down there. Okay. You got another spot with a lot of history.
Speaker 2 01:01:02 Yeah. That would be a I'm sure a phone call. Sound play.
Speaker 1 01:01:05 I prefer Auburn over at Tuscaloosa. He's an Alabama fan and he just made that noise talking about Tuscaloosa, the kids there. I mean they're, they're, they're, they're fine but it's just, just like Oxford and State are are different. All,
Speaker 2 01:01:19 Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:01:20 Bama is Oxford. Okay. Tuscaloosa is the Oxford of Alabama. Yeah,
Speaker 2 01:01:25 That's what,
Speaker 1 01:01:25 That's what I've heard. Auburn. And Auburn is like state. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> where there's not a lot of bars. So Skybar is it just like Rick's is
Speaker 3 01:01:32 Pretty much it. Yeah. Sky
Speaker 1 01:01:33 Bar. Have you been to Skybar before In Auburn?
Speaker 2 01:01:35 Mm-hmm. I've never been to Auburn.
Speaker 1 01:01:37 You've never done to, okay. So we gotta,
Speaker 2 01:01:38 Which is funny, like,
Speaker 1 01:01:40 That's wild because you're, you spent all that time in Mississippi.
Speaker 2 01:01:42 Well it's because like truly the reason why is because like I never went, I did not go to a lot of away games when I was in school. Cuz I never wanted to leave Oxford <laugh>. Like, I'm serious. Yeah. And people would go to games, like they'd have friends at other schools and every weekend I'd be like, uh, I don't wanna miss like whatever party's going on here. So I wouldn't, I never left. But I regret that though cuz I feel like a lot of people make good memories going to like, going to watch 'em play in Alabama or whatever. Yeah. And I just never did. I wish I would have, but I'm getting my fix now. Going to all these college games.
Speaker 1 01:02:18 Yeah. Oh, you definitely are. See I've only been the one SCC game in my life and I was spoiled. It was the Iron Bowl this year. So I started big. I started big. You did? And now it's all down. Like, I don't like, cuz I, I want to go and see the Egg Bowl. I want to experience. Yeah. I want to experience The Grove. I want to experience, um, Athens on a game. Like I wanna experience these different places on a game day. Yeah. Like what, what is, what's what's your your sales pitch for? You gotta go to a, you gotta experience a, a game day in Oxford. Like what, what's the route, what's the routine? Like when you guys starting? How's it going when
Speaker 2 01:02:53 You go to Oxford for a game, you need to go with the right people. Okay. You gotta go with like Ole Miss people. Yeah. Cuz they can show you how it's done. But like, my favorite is a night game obviously.
Speaker 1 01:03:05 When do you guys start drinking for a night game? Are you guys like LSU or your like 10:00 AM <laugh>. Okay.
Speaker 2 01:03:10 My, our routine, I mean, in college our routine was like we'd be hungover from whatever party was on Friday night cuz they'd have like a big frat party the night before. And then we'd get up like go get Chick-fil-A start getting ready early, like at nine because you go to The Grove, like let's say the game is at like six. We'd get up, have lunch, start getting ready. Then the pre-game starts at like someone's house. So you start drinking at like 10 or 11 and you just drink and party tailgate all day. And then you go to the Grove like around lunchtime I guess. So like sometimes people go to the Grove at noon or earlier for a six o'clock game. And then it's just red, white and blue tents as far as you can see. And on a regular day, the Grove is actually like a really pretty just field of trees in
Speaker 1 01:03:57 The middle of camp. Probably scenic like chills,
Speaker 2 01:03:59 Super green, super chill and just like, looks like something out of a movie. And on game day it is packed tent to tent red, white, and blue. And people have these spreads of food. And then like the proper southern, Southern ladies get like chandeliers in their, like, it's, it's a whole thing. So then you stay in the grove all day, you drink, you kind of bop around from tent to tent. Like somebody's family will have a tent. So you kind of go say hey to them or go to the frat tents and go get free alcohol there. Oh yeah. And then you go into the game and um, after the game win or lose go out to the bars <laugh>. Which is, it's, I mean they're just gonna be packed like no matter what. Yeah. I think. And yeah, so you just gotta follow, follow the crowd you're with and make sure it's Ole Miss people and just do what they do on a regular Saturday when it's not a game day. I mean the square is just so picturesque. It's like out of a Hallmark movie, you can get up, go to breakfast, get a coffee, there's all these cute lunch places, shopping <laugh>. Y'all probably don't care about that. Nah. But then like, then the bars, it just gets, it's so just classic College Town
Speaker 1 01:05:13 Now. Was Ole Miss one of those schools? Cause coming from up north Yeah. We didn't have like the, the college athletic thing isn't like a huge thing. Uhhuh. We have, we have 13 professional sports teams in New York. So we don't, we've Yeah, we've got our hands full. You're,
Speaker 2 01:05:25 Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:05:25 But for us it's, you always wear, you wear, you wear a jersey or something associated with the team. It's Ole Miss one of those schools where you dress up and you wear the, you wear the Foo dress. You dress up. Yeah. And the, or the guy, the guys look like they're going to a wedding, but they're really going to get drunk and go to a football game.
Speaker 2 01:05:41 The Ole Miss. Okay. For
Speaker 1 01:05:42 Like, the Retire probably costs more than the ticket. Probably. Like fuck that. That's
Speaker 2 01:05:46 A hundred percent crazy. I know. But it's like, our basketball is like, don't y'all dress up for basketball games or something.
Speaker 1 01:05:53 I, I wear Knicks jersey. I have it all. Maybe I, until I have no voice and be like, you fucking got,
Speaker 2 01:05:57 I don't know. It, it's just like, it's a, it's like a tradition but also Ole Miss is kind of unrealistic. Like, not all schools dress up like the Ole Miss kids do. And it wasn't like, it wasn't anything crazy. But like for, for dudes the uniform is light washed jeans, cowboy boots and an Ole Miss Polo or the
Speaker 1 01:06:16 Short or the shorts that that are, I'm pretty sure that's the compression short shorts. Like, like the short shorts. Dudes wear those like short shorts in the pillow
Speaker 2 01:06:23 Likes. That's a little more like southern coastal, like preppy. That's more,
Speaker 1 01:06:27 That's like
Speaker 2 01:06:27 Southeast or not even southern.
Speaker 1 01:06:28 That's like Coastal Carolina or like little
Speaker 2 01:06:30 Cape Cod even clubs. Yeah. Our, our guys would wear light washed jeans, boots and an Ole Miss Polo and usually a hat. Yeah. And the girls like, I mean I would always wear, I don't know, just like a, a pretty dressy outfit. Like what I would wear to like go out or something. But I feel like my style is a lot more casual now. I, I, I don't know. But the girls would, a lot of girls would like buy a brand new outfit. Like a, you know how they would have like, you wear red for this game or blue for this game, whatever. They'd like buy a brand new white dress or like a red, I
Speaker 1 01:07:06 Feel like a white dress to a, to a football game where I'm starting to drink at 10 o'clock in the morning. Just not smart. Doesn't sound practical, but
Speaker 2 01:07:13 It also was so hot. It was so hot a lot of times, like in the early season games. Oh. It was like 90 degrees. So you kind of gotta you gotta make it work. Yeah. What
Speaker 1 01:07:24 Did you enjoy more of? The football games or the uh, baseball games? Football. Football.
Speaker 2 01:07:28 Yeah. I love, I mean I love the baseball games. It's just different. But I loved, loved going to the football
Speaker 1 01:07:33 Games. And was Ole Miss like solid when you were there? Because were you there for the, not really. Were you there for, were you there for any of the Lane Kiffin era?
Speaker 2 01:07:40 Oh yeah. Yeah. He, I think,
Speaker 1 01:07:42 Did you see, did you ever see
Speaker 2 01:07:42 Him? He was my whole, well no, he came when I was like a junior I think.
Speaker 1 01:07:47 Did did you ever see him out at the bars? Because he was known for that in Tuscaloosa? Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 01:07:51 I met him at the bar.
Speaker 1 01:07:52 Really? Yeah,
Speaker 2 01:07:53 I did.
Speaker 1 01:07:53 What what was his, what was his nickname? M do you remember his
Speaker 2 01:07:56 Nickname? Joey Freshwater?
Speaker 1 01:07:57 Yeah. Yeah. Joey Freshwater. Mm-hmm. Cuz whenever we play in, whenever, whenever Trey Lewis would play in Tuscaloosa mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we put Joey Freshwater on the guest list or or in Oxford we did that. We were at Proud Larrys. We put Joey Freshwater on the guest
Speaker 2 01:08:08 List. Uh, yeah. Yeah. I met him at the bar. It wasn't like,
Speaker 1 01:08:12 What's that encounter like?
Speaker 2 01:08:13 Well, my dad was there.
Speaker 5 01:08:15 <laugh>. Oh, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 01:08:17 So
Speaker 5 01:08:17 It was, well
Speaker 1 01:08:18 I don't mean it like that. I'm just saying what is it? What's it like bumping in the lane? Kiffin ass in a
Speaker 2 01:08:23 Bar? Well it was great. It was so, I thought it was so cool cuz he had just moved to town. Like he had just, it, it was like the beginning of the school year I think. So he had just started there and I just remember like, I think my parents were in town cuz it, they had helped me move in. Like it was literally right at the beginning of the year. And I was with my parents and like one of my friends and we were at this like rooftop bar on top of the graduate in Oxford. And he walked in with like, who, some guy, like some guy he was with. And I think he was actually, I don't remember, I don't think I knew who he was with. There's just some, some guy. And we were all, and my dad is like the biggest Ole Miss fan of all time. So he was free out. Like, he literally was like, Chrissy, Chrissy Chrissy's my mom. He's like, y'all, y'all gotta go say something. Of course I'm like, okay, you're gonna make me go say something to him cause you won't. So me and my friend go up and he kind of like, it wasn't anything crazy like, we were like, Hey, like we're big fans. Can we have a
Speaker 5 01:09:27 Picture
Speaker 2 01:09:28 <laugh>? And he was kinda like, yeah sure. And we got a quick picture and like that
Speaker 5 01:09:33 Really was it.
Speaker 2 01:09:34 Like he kinda lived up to the reputation. But I love it. I love
Speaker 4 01:09:38 Can I also say peek behind your left shoulder and look at that sign?
Speaker 2 01:09:42 Wait. Behind.
Speaker 1 01:09:43 Oh yeah. Oh, the Bama sign. Yeah. We do have a boot of a roll tied right behind you.
Speaker 5 01:09:48 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:09:48 Oh man. Let's roll Tide in. Um, whatever. In uh, in Ole Miss Colors though, you know. Yeah. It's in like that red and blue. That's
Speaker 2 01:09:54 Interesting.
Speaker 1 01:09:55 It's it's a Mississippi elephant. He's confused.
Speaker 2 01:09:58 Yeah. <laugh>
Speaker 4 01:10:01 2023 baby.
Speaker 5 01:10:03 Yeah.
Speaker 4 01:10:06 Geez.
Speaker 1 01:10:07 Jeez. Oh
Speaker 4 01:10:07 My. So wait, I have to cut that one
Speaker 5 01:10:10 <laugh>
Speaker 2 01:10:12 For a select audience.
Speaker 1 01:10:13 Oh geez. That's funny. Um, what's it like being over at um, being over at Big Loud and being at Neil Agency and like, it's awesome. Like being on like, cuz there's a lot going on over there right now and you, there is you're, you're part of a, part of a roster that's just mm-hmm. <affirmative> ex. Just insane. You haven't even gotten to put out the, like the music's coming.
Speaker 2 01:10:34 It's coming. I promise it's coming really, really soon actually.
Speaker 1 01:10:37 So what, what's, what have your kind of interactions been like with other, other folks on the roster? Like is it very much like a family environment over there?
Speaker 2 01:10:43 It's been so cool. Yeah, I mean like from the start it was like Nicole cuz I'm, so, I'm songs and daughters and Big Loud. So it's really perfect for me cuz I get like the special attention from Nicole and her genius and then also Big Loud and everything that that is. And it's just been cool. I mean like, I've always looked up to all those guys over there and like, even Seth and Joey, like, I, I just, they have always been kind of like the North Star for me. Yeah. And I mean it really was my dream label. And um, so it's just been cool. Everybody, like, they're all just so smart and like to me there's something like kind of casual about Big Loud that I really like. Yeah. Like its just nobody really is trying too hard. Nobody really gives a fuck about like what they just do what they want to do.
Speaker 2 01:11:31 And I like that. And that's my vibe. Yeah. And so it was just, it felt like the perfect fit from the, from day one. And I mean everybody on, everybody at that label is just cool. Like cool and nice and down to earth and it's been really awesome. And the Neil Agency too, I, when I met Austen, cuz Austen's an Ole Ms. Guy too. Austin Neil. So we hit it off like right off the bat and he's just my kind of people, like, he's just cool and, and not trying too hard. And he's just himself and he's a sweet guy and he's smart and he knows, you know, he knows what he is doing. And so I was like, I don't know, I just feel lucky to be a part of it. <laugh> and excited. And it's cool that I get to like, see these people regularly and, and like get their advice from them and, you know, it's just cool.
Speaker 1 01:12:18 Yeah. I mean it's a, it's a good, pretty good, pretty good fucking to be in good. Pretty good gig. Pretty good spot to, I feel.
Speaker 2 01:12:23 I do feel very grateful. I I, half the time I'm like, what am I doing here? <laugh>. But
Speaker 1 01:12:28 But
Speaker 2 01:12:29 You have put I'm taking it though. But you've
Speaker 1 01:12:30 Put in, you've put in a lot of work. I have. Yeah. You've put in a lot of work. How many songs do you think you wrote last year?
Speaker 2 01:12:35 I wish I knew. I mean,
Speaker 1 01:12:38 Like if you had to guess
Speaker 2 01:12:40 Mm. Close to between, uh, close to 200 maybe. Like,
Speaker 1 01:12:44 That's a lot of fucking work.
Speaker 2 01:12:46 That might be overestimating. I don't know. But No, just,
Speaker 1 01:12:49 Just that's a lot of songs.
Speaker 2 01:12:50 I I do write a lot. I write
Speaker 1 01:12:51 A lot. Yeah. But all the, all the songs, all the gigs, all the gigs that you've been on before, before this opportunity now and now you're, you guys are, are on this damn rocket ship. It's getting ready to lot off. Look at us.
Speaker 2 01:13:01 Right.
Speaker 1 01:13:02 It's fucking, it's, it's exciting and it's, um, I'm, I can't wait to see what, uh, what the future holds for you guys. Thank you.
Speaker 2 01:13:08 We're we're excited too.
Speaker 1 01:13:09 And everything's, are you guys gonna be down in Key West this year?
Speaker 2 01:13:11 Yeah, I am. I don't think you're gonna be there, are you? I don't know. <laugh>
Speaker 1 01:13:15 Wade. I mean, we'll
Speaker 2 01:13:16 See, I haven't gotten
Speaker 1 01:13:17 Invited yet, but
Speaker 2 01:13:18 I'm definitely going. I Key West is my favorite week
Speaker 1 01:13:22 Of the, you were down there last year? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 2 01:13:24 Yeah. I went the past two years, but two years ago I was kind of half there for songwriting trip and I was half there for my college graduation trip. So only one time did I get the full Key West Songwriters Fest
Speaker 1 01:13:38 Experience. Okay. Well well this year we're doing, um, I'm, so I'm, I'm co-hosting the, um, we're actually gonna have two, two kind of events. One of them's three days. We're doing the, the happy hours at Island Dogs. The raised rowdy. Oh yeah. I love island dogs. I I say Island dogs cuz I'm from New York. Yeah. New York Island and O Island dogs and o is in w I love it. Um, but we'll be there for that. And then we're doing a karaoke night at Kaya that Wednesday night. All right. Late night. So everybody put their drinking pants on. Now is this the invite? This is, this is the invite. I'm there and it's, it's gonna be a, a karaoke night. And then we have those happy hours. But I'll be down there with Nikki t and uh, doing the raised, rowdy thing. Yeah. We love Nick t It'll be a, uh, it'll be a wild time. That's awesome. You should figure out a way to get down there. Cause you
Speaker 2 01:14:25 Figure it out way and you're He's looking at me. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:14:28 Go
Speaker 1 01:14:29 Down. Don't look at, don't look at her.
Speaker 3 01:14:31 We'll figure it out. All the boys are trying, or all the boys are getting a place down there. I'm, I'm thinking about it. I wanted to go so bad last year, but like, well last year, that's like right around finals week for me. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's like the, the same if
Speaker 2 01:14:43 I was playing like a show I would
Speaker 3 01:14:45 Bring you would make, cause like the first, so finals week at Belmont, I don't, I will never understand this, but for some reason they always start on a Wednesday and end on a Tuesday. Wait for what? For finals week. Why would they do that? They start on a Wednesday. It goes Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then they start back on Monday and Tuesday and then they're done. And that Monday and Tuesday is the first two days. That first, that's the week down in when Key West starts.
Speaker 1 01:15:09 Well, key West starts that Wednesday. Thur like, it really starts at like Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 3 01:15:14 Okay. Well I, okay.
Speaker 1 01:15:15 Yeah, you can make it happen. You can.
Speaker 3 01:15:16 I might, I might try. I'm like zip it down. I've been looking for like a vacation slash like Yeah. Songwriters thing cuz I'm trying to get into that a little bit more.
Speaker 1 01:15:25 It'd be wild if you and the boys like rented an rv. Oh. And just didn't, instead of a hotel you guys, one of retros. Oh my God. Like a fucking Winnebago or some shit. Yeah. And it's like you and fucking Jay and fucking me and Jay.
Speaker 3 01:15:36 Jay and Connor and all the
Speaker 1 01:15:37 Dude Connor. Paxton. Brennan. Yep. A amen. That would be like fun.
Speaker 3 01:15:42 Have you seen those retro vans? Yeah. Dude, if we got in one of those, we can always, like, you guys
Speaker 1 01:15:47 Guys could totally live in that. You idiots could totally live idiots in that shit. I don't way my little brother's running around town. Like I Oh, I see them at Red Door. And I've told Wade this before. We didn't, we didn't really get into it earlier, but like, the fact that he's out on the road with you out on the road subbing gigs for other people in town, like in the community and still going to fucking college and he's
Speaker 2 01:16:08 Still Yeah, he is. He's a,
Speaker 3 01:16:10 It's not the easiest. He
Speaker 1 01:16:11 Works man. And I remember having that conversation with you at Red Door that night. Yeah. He was like, man, I, I don't know if I can do all, I'm like, dude, just get the degree. Just finish it out. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:16:21 And he's the best sport about it too though. Like, you know, you really don't complain. I used like, we'll be in the car and he just head down,
Speaker 3 01:16:28 Quit. I used to complain was the way home.
Speaker 2 01:16:29 I'm like, oh my God. I forget.
Speaker 3 01:16:31 I forget. I used to complain about it a lot. Like when, when me and Noah were going and it was like we had a lot of Thursday dates mm-hmm. <affirmative> and at that time I, so last semester the, yeah, last semester was the first one where I did Tuesday, Thursday classes only to avoid Fridays. You know, I'm thinking like all our shows are gonna be Friday, Saturday for the most part. And then they
Speaker 1 01:16:54 Three day runs, four day runs.
Speaker 3 01:16:55 Then they throw me like five Thursday shows like right in a row. And I'm like, dammit. Yeah. So that time was like, trying to figure out how to balance all that for the first time really was, it's tough. It was very stressful. Now I've kind of got it down for the most part, but,
Speaker 1 01:17:12 But I feel like you're going to school for music. What?
Speaker 3 01:17:15 That's exactly.
Speaker 1 01:17:16 Yeah. Like see what I did when I was in college, my, I, so I worked at a radio station in Jersey before I moved down here and I was able to, to kind of get, I figured it out. I kind of, kind of, um, kind of, um, skipped the system or fuck I, I broke, I did whatever. I don't even know the right words for it, but I probably shouldn't have gotten credit for it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But I figured out a way to get credit for it. If you get like a, like a co-op, it was like a nine or 12 credit co-op. So it accounted for like three or four classes. But I was still getting paid. Yeah. I don't know how you would do that for
Speaker 3 01:17:48 This. Yeah. Belmont.
Speaker 1 01:17:49 So, but it's like you're going to like, you're going to school to do what you're doing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:17:53 Yeah. Yeah. So it would be like an internship for them. Except the problem is, is no like really offers paid internships to Belmont students. Like they have all kinds of internship festive like thing Yeah. Like internship fairs where there'll be anybody, any ta like company in town that you can think of related to the music industry is there mm-hmm. <affirmative> but not a single one. There's like one maybe that offers paid internship. Well just
Speaker 1 01:18:24 Tell 'em you're interning with Ms. Lauren Wains. Yeah. And she's paying you.
Speaker 3 01:18:28 Lemme talk to Well I did have an internship that I was gonna try and work it out, but it just, I only have like a certain amount of elective credits and the intern isn't required for my major. So if I do an internship, it cuts into the electives And there's some classes like tour management, you know, there's a few classes that I would actually,
Speaker 1 01:18:49 What is it? Tour managing. I don't know how they can teach you that.
Speaker 3 01:18:52 I don I'm in an artist. Don't, I'm in an artist management class right now.
Speaker 1 01:18:55 An manager way, like a
Speaker 3 01:18:57 Day
Speaker 1 01:18:58 Way, manager way.
Speaker 3 01:19:00 It's like a dayto day. My profile, we would be a shit show my
Speaker 3 01:19:03 <laugh> if it, so it's like a day-to-day manager class. And I would've never thought that that would've been like, I would've learned or retained any information from that. Cuz a lot of times they have like these classes that you just, honestly the curriculum is BS and has nothing to do with the title of the class. Yeah, true. But that's another subject. But yeah, this class I'm actually learning quite a bit. So the professor is the guitar player for little Texas. Okay. And they have went through quite a few personal managers. So he has all of the, all of the experiences to teach us. And it's great. Like I'm actually happy I took this class cuz I'm learning from it, you know? That's
Speaker 2 01:19:43 Actually cool that he's teaching it from the artist's perspective. Yeah. Pretty
Speaker 3 01:19:47 Much. Yeah. Well, and he's done, I think he has done some like small like management mm-hmm. <affirmative> positions with some like, smaller guys, you know, even better. He's seen both. Yeah. So he's been on both sides of it. And Uhhuh, it's, it actually is kind of eyeopening like a lot of the things he's telling us, I'm like, been there like I'm glad you're teaching these kids this cuz I have been there <laugh> and I've wondered what the man, like what are you doing? Like what is our manager doing right now? You know, like, yeah, you're stuck in, you know, say you're stuck in a college town, Milledgeville two o'clock in the morning. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you got the wrong hotel room or something. Like, you call your manager and don't answer. What do you do there? Oh man. Know. Like that was one of the things he, he had brought up a similar story. So yeah, I'm like kind of thankful for some of these classes, but I wanna take some more of those. So I was like, do I want to cut into my electives with an internship or do I want to, like how
Speaker 1 01:20:41 Many more credits do you got left?
Speaker 3 01:20:43 I have to finish this semester and then I have two full semesters. So I think I have like 31 credits I have to finish. It's my final semester. I'll have like a full load is 16 and I'll have like 15 for my last semester. So
Speaker 1 01:20:59 You gotta squeeze like a fuck off class in there. Oh
Speaker 3 01:21:02 Yeah. There's gotta be, I'm definitely taking like a weight lifting
Speaker 1 01:21:04 Class or something. Yeah. Like did they have those at
Speaker 3 01:21:07 Belmont? I took a Spikeball class dude.
Speaker 1 01:21:09 A
Speaker 3 01:21:09 Spike ball, a spikeball class. Of
Speaker 1 01:21:11 Course I have that at Belmont. Uh,
Speaker 3 01:21:13 A spikeball 80
Speaker 1 01:21:14 80 grand a year. Tuition come play spike ball.
Speaker 2 01:21:18 God, when you think of it like that, it is not good.
Speaker 3 01:21:20 Yeah. It's,
Speaker 1 01:21:21 Were you good? Did you
Speaker 3 01:21:22 Pass? I mean, did you pass? Did you pass? Yeah. So
Speaker 1 01:21:25 I mean, I don't know the ball over your head. I
Speaker 3 01:21:27 Don't know the requirement. Like to pass the class is literally just to show up. If you don't show up, that's the only way you can like fail this class. It's gonna spring
Speaker 1 01:21:36 Break
Speaker 3 01:21:36 This year. And during covid, here's the best. So during Covid I had a friend, so this Spikeball class, if you, since you couldn't like come in person to the class, what they would do is you would have to like exercise for like 30 minute or like go walk for 30 minutes or like do some specific exercise and like send a video or something like that. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 01:21:57 So weird.
Speaker 3 01:21:58 Or it's something. You get that idea though. I don't remember what the requirements were, but I had a friend, I actually, I had two friends who failed the class because they never showed up because you could go still at the time
Speaker 2 01:22:12 That is dumb. You, you
Speaker 3 01:22:13 Either had the option to go or you could, if you weren't comfortable going, you could do the exercise option. And they both failed because they didn't go or exercise. Well that's was like, that's just
Speaker 2 01:22:24 Silly.
Speaker 3 01:22:25 Yeah. You know it's spikeball <laugh>. You go play Spikeball for like 50 minutes. I don't even know the rules.
Speaker 1 01:22:31 Two times Spike.
Speaker 2 01:22:32 Like I don't either. I've never played it.
Speaker 1 01:22:33 Is that the one with, is that the one with the trampoline?
Speaker 2 01:22:35 When I'm on the beach, like, cuz that's the one you play on the beach, right? I feel like people
Speaker 3 01:22:40 Play on beach. I like play beach, but yeah, people play on the
Speaker 2 01:22:42 Beach a lot. I am a beach girl, but I, I am not a games on the beach
Speaker 1 01:22:47 Girl. You're girl.
Speaker 2 01:22:48 I'm louder. I'm gonna sit in my chair with a beer. You and I am not getting up and playing paddle ball.
Speaker 1 01:22:54 <laugh>. You, you a book reader on the
Speaker 2 01:22:55 Beach. Sometimes. Sometimes lately I've been getting into reading <laugh>, but, but I like I will not, I'll get in the water, but I will not, you'll not, I'll not be playing volleyball or
Speaker 3 01:23:07 Spikeball
Speaker 1 01:23:08 <laugh>. What's the, what's the beach for, for you growing up here? Where do you
Speaker 2 01:23:11 Go down to? We go, we grew up going to Pensacola. Pensacola, orange Beach? Yeah. Okay. My mom's side. Like, they all live in Pensacola. Okay. Well it's
Speaker 1 01:23:18 Her dad's from there. So I'm very familiar with Pensacola Really as well. There is a, uh, rowdy venue called Wild Gregg's.
Speaker 2 01:23:26 I've
Speaker 3 01:23:26 Never been there. That's the one that we need to play at. I
Speaker 2 01:23:28 Have never been there. We heard of that.
Speaker 1 01:23:30 Okay. Well Gregg's is not for the faint of heart. I
Speaker 3 01:23:32 Am so ready. I'm so ready for
Speaker 1 01:23:35 He was, he was just, he was just there.
Speaker 2 01:23:36 Where is it? Where in
Speaker 1 01:23:37 Pennsylvania? It's on, um, what's the name of the fucking fucking street that it's on? It's like on one of the main strips. Okay. It's an upstairs, it's upstairs in the building. Okay. So when you have like a lot of gear, like with Trey, you bring out, we bring out four lighting carts. Like we have a full trailer full of stuff. Yeah. They they have a crane now. Like a lift that lifts it up over the balcony. Nope, they don't. Oh, they don't have the crane. They're supposed to have the crane there for you guys. Okay. Well they didn't have the crane. Not my problem. I'll figure it
Speaker 2 01:24:03 Out. Um,
Speaker 1 01:24:04 But you have to like load everything up to the elevator and whatever. But Greg is just, you've met Greg. Yeah, Greg was in town. There's wild. Greg is is wild. He's, yeah, he's a wild man. He owns, um, he used to have four venues, now he has three. He has two in Florida, one in Austin. Used to have one in Minneapolis. They're all called Wild Gregs. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And um, yeah, he's just, he's a wild time. Um,
Speaker 3 01:24:26 <laugh>, I met him at Red Door and Oh, when I talk about like one of the,
Speaker 1 01:24:32 Just like
Speaker 3 01:24:33 One of the best connections that I've had like conversations with like a person that I met at Red Door that night.
Speaker 2 01:24:39 You clicked, he clicked
Speaker 3 01:24:40 With Wild Gray. He hilarious. Like he had the best stories you could ever imagine. Yeah. Best stories. They're talking about the venue, so they're giving me the rundown of like what it's like to play there with him there. And I'm like, so
Speaker 2 01:24:51 We gotta play there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:24:52 We, that's like, yeah. Done. They're a blue room. Yeah,
Speaker 1 01:24:55 Those
Speaker 3 01:24:56 Are the two.
Speaker 1 01:24:56 Yeah, those are those. Have you been to the Flo Bama?
Speaker 2 01:24:59 Oh, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 01:25:00 I've only been once is, but we're, but we're going again in the fall. So Im
Speaker 2 01:25:04 Excited. The Flo Bama is my safe haven. Like I am, I'm more myself at the Flo Bama than I have been here.
Speaker 1 01:25:10 Have have you gigged down there?
Speaker 2 01:25:12 No, no I haven't. I thought I, now it's like, I kind of wanna wait till I can, I I saw RN play at the Flo Vama, which that's where I met him, which is a funny story. But, um,
Speaker 1 01:25:23 Tell that story. What's wanna what's, what's the funny story? Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:25:26 Well
Speaker 1 01:25:26 I was like, we A funny story, like funny
Speaker 2 01:25:28 Story. Well it's not that funny, but I, um, I was down there with my family. Like we were just on a, this was like a few years ago and he was playing the like, I think they call it the main room, which it's not actually the main stage. It's just like a, another room where they'll have people like headline. Whereas like the main part of the bar is like, usually like a cover band and they'll play like a four hour set, which I don't, I don't really do in that anymore. Yeah. So I'm, what I was gonna say is I'm, I wanna wait till I can like, be big enough to play the main room and do something like that. But
Speaker 1 01:26:00 Is that the one with all the, all the bras hanging up and they send the
Speaker 2 01:26:03 Yeah, that's the main, they
Speaker 1 01:26:04 Send the tips down in the bucket.
Speaker 2 01:26:06 That's the like the like biggest part of the bar, like the big stage. But then there's like another side room where he was playing. And so I went with my sister and my dad and cuz my dad loves Ernest too and he just, he played like a, for an hour and a half or whatever and he was just super funny, like classic Irn. And he had Grady, his drummer with him, which I didn't know Grady yet. Now I'm really good friends with Grady <laugh> and I, and like we met Ern after the show and like, we all hung out and, and it was just so funny cuz I, I had just started like kind of like meeting with Big Loud, but I, you're kind of in that stage where you don't know what's going on. And I was very like green too, so I didn't know anything.
Speaker 2 01:26:50 Yeah. I'm like, uh, are we are, do you guys like me? Or like whatever. And I didn't tell earn any of that. Like I didn't, I just acted like, oh I'm just from Nashville. I'm not, I didn't say any of that was going on. And so we just like became friends really quickly and then we got back to town and started running into each other again. He was like, okay, we actually have all the same people in our world, which is really funny. Yeah. And then when I got to be closer with Grady, we put it together like, oh my God, you were at that show And I didn't even meet Grady. He went, I don't know what he was doing, but
Speaker 1 01:27:20 It's the floor. Bama.
Speaker 2 01:27:22 <laugh>. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? It was a lot of rabbit holes, but it was so funny. Like it was just, it was just the craziest small world thing cuz like, I didn't know what was gonna happen with big, the big loud stuff. And then once I signed there he was like, what the hell? You didn't tell me any of this.
Speaker 1 01:27:34 And that's, um, that's back when it was locals only Irn. Yeah, that's Island Island. Earn
Speaker 2 01:27:39 Island Urn. Yeah. He, this was like probably 20.
Speaker 1 01:27:44 I learned <laugh>, you guys, he puts Irn on the end of everything, right?
Speaker 2 01:27:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was probably 2021 or 2020 probably 2021. I think.
Speaker 1 01:27:55 2020. Florida Battle years ago was thriving. Yeah. Florida was thriving. Yeah. That was when we were, that was my first time gonna to Wild Greg's was spring break.
Speaker 2 01:28:05 It was like the one place, it was like felt normal.
Speaker 1 01:28:07 <laugh> Well again, I was, I was on the, it was the, the dick down in Dallas train for us, so Oh yeah. That comes out December, 2020. What's going on? We played 130 shows from December, 2020 to the end of 21. Oh boy. Went everywhere. Oh man. So, but we did, um, we, that first time at Wild Greg's was s e c Spring Break. Oh man. In Pensacola.
Speaker 2 01:28:26 Oh God. Yeah. I might have been close by
Speaker 1 01:28:29 <laugh>. Yeah, that was our in 21 and that was, that was our first running with Wild Greg. So since then
Speaker 2 01:28:34 We Dang. Okay. We're gonna have to, we're gonna have to go play there. Yeah. You have to meet Wild Greg. I love, that's like my favorite, honestly, my favorite part of the country and I'm not even kidding, is
Speaker 1 01:28:42 The Gulf. And I haven't been everywhere the Gulf Coast.
Speaker 2 01:28:44 But yeah, I mean I like, I, I just, I love how down to earth it is. It's chill. It's redneck. People aren't trying
Speaker 1 01:28:51 To, the red, the redneck reveal.
Speaker 2 01:28:53 Nobody's trying to impress anybody. Yeah. It is just like, I love it. It's my favorite. Yeah. Especially the Flora Bama.
Speaker 1 01:28:58 Yeah. The Flora Bama is wild.
Speaker 2 01:29:00 It's seen me at my best and worst.
Speaker 1 01:29:01 So you've had some Bush whackers?
Speaker 2 01:29:03 Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 01:29:04 Oh yeah. What's your favorite bar here in town?
Speaker 2 01:29:08 Um,
Speaker 1 01:29:09 Or, I mean, it depends on the movie. Do you feel like it's evolved or do you not go out as much as you used
Speaker 2 01:29:13 To? I don't go out as much as I used to. I, there definitely was going out a lot last year and like, I'm not gonna lie out, the go-to is Red Door, like that's where I would go. Or Losers. I feel like I used to go to Losers a lot. I don't really go out as much right now.
Speaker 1 01:29:29 Losers isn't the same since Hardy and Nikki T broke the bar.
Speaker 3 01:29:33 What? Yeah. Losers. I don't know
Speaker 1 01:29:35 When the, when the bar fell on
Speaker 3 01:29:36 The
Speaker 2 01:29:38 Yeah, I was there that night. I was like,
Speaker 1 01:29:40 Wait, what? When Nikki t and Hardy broke the bar. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:29:44 Yeah. No, it it, yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 01:29:45 It hasn't been the same.
Speaker 2 01:29:46 It hasn't been. But yeah, I mean I also like, I mean, my favorite vibe is like Corner Pub, just somewhere to go sit and drink a beer.
Speaker 1 01:29:55 Yeah. Local, local, local
Speaker 2 01:29:55 Shit. Yeah. Yeah. Local shit. Like, I like Crow's Nest too.
Speaker 1 01:29:59 I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 01:30:00 It's a lot like Corner Pub. I think the same guy owns it actually. But it's,
Speaker 1 01:30:03 Where's it, where's it at? Right
Speaker 2 01:30:04 Across the street. It's right by Kroger. Okay.
Speaker 1 01:30:08 Where,
Speaker 2 01:30:08 Which corner Pub's on the other side?
Speaker 1 01:30:10 I was gonna say Kroger. I feel like there's a lot of those.
Speaker 3 01:30:12 Yeah. There's like
Speaker 2 01:30:13 Of like, you know the Kroger?
Speaker 1 01:30:15 You know the Kroger? Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:30:16 It's in Green Hills. Okay. Right next to the Kroger House.
Speaker 1 01:30:18 Do you like the Green Hills Mall?
Speaker 2 01:30:20 Uh, I, I do. I used to like it a lot, but now it feels overwhelming to me. Yeah. I like it. But they, it's so there's a lot of expensive stores in there.
Speaker 1 01:30:31 Yeah. I can't afford it. Yeah. It kind of prices out. I
Speaker 3 01:30:33 Don't even think I've ever been,
Speaker 2 01:30:35 I mean, it's a very peaceful vibe, I'll tell you that. It is. I love to walk around and just get a coffee and just kinda like window shop. But
Speaker 1 01:30:42 There's, there's a chocolate store in there, right? Isn't there like a, I don't know, like a bougie chocolate?
Speaker 2 01:30:47 Like a fancy chocolate store?
Speaker 1 01:30:48 Cause So, uh,
Speaker 2 01:30:49 Is it good?
Speaker 1 01:30:51 Yeah. Godiva, I've never
Speaker 3 01:30:52 Been there. There's a C Choc
Speaker 1 01:30:53 There's a cadaver bro. There's a,
Speaker 3 01:30:55 They're called Cadis.
Speaker 1 01:30:56 Cadi have chocolates. Yeah. You don't know about Cadi Chocolates.
Speaker 3 01:30:59 Chocolate
Speaker 1 01:30:59 Ca. Iva chocolate Chocolates. Chocolates.
Speaker 3 01:31:01 That's great. They
Speaker 2 01:31:02 Sell grano's. All is
Speaker 3 01:31:03 Bougie. The only time I've ever heard Godiva's before right now is talking about the, like one and only one.
Speaker 1 01:31:16 It's the
Speaker 3 01:31:18 Most ghetto strip club that there is. The one and only like, within like a hundred mile radius of my hometown. It's called Godiva. It's called Godiva's. Like the only like ghetto strip club.
Speaker 1 01:31:31 Wow. Maybe they're serving those good and,
Speaker 3 01:31:32 And I
Speaker 1 01:31:32 Would pass it. Maybe they're serving them dork chocolate truffles. Man. That's,
Speaker 3 01:31:35 Dude, I would pass it every day on the way to school, you know, and on the way home. And it would No, no, you, if you saw the crowd outside, you would not stop it either. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:31:43 Oh boy. But, but I, my old, um, my old, my old co-host for this, um, my buddy Tyler mm-hmm. <affirmative>, him and I used, we used to work downtown together and we worked for Mus and I together and we did the podcast together back in the day. But I used to go on like excursions with him and he went to college. I went to Trevecca. So he was originally from Alabama, but went to Trevecca. So he knew town a bit more than I did. And he was like, man, we're gonna go do this thing. Like, he didn't tell me where we were going. We ended up going to the Green Hills Mall. We went to Godiva just so he could get, went to Green Hills Mall, just so we could get a fucking free chocolate little chocolate square from Godiva because they
Speaker 2 01:32:19 Give him out for free.
Speaker 1 01:32:21 Apparently they did that day. His his ass doing bad. Let's
Speaker 3 01:32:23 Go. Yeah, let's go. You got time
Speaker 2 01:32:25 After this?
Speaker 3 01:32:25 Yes, I definitely do.
Speaker 2 01:32:26 What'd they close up for? Probably like nine. So,
Speaker 1 01:32:28 Yeah, I was gonna say. Perfect. Um, what's the um, best one of the best kept secrets in Nashville? Like food wise? Oh God. I'm sure you don't wanna shit, you don't want let us in. I know you're a local, but
Speaker 2 01:32:38 That is a really hard, that's a really hard question. Let me think. I mean, Brown's Diner.
Speaker 1 01:32:47 See, I don't, I don't know what the fuck, what is that? Okay. You know what Brown's
Speaker 3 01:32:49 Is? No.
Speaker 2 01:32:50 It's this little burger joint. It's not Jack Brown's, but it's close to there. It's this little burger joint. It's
Speaker 3 01:32:55 Across from the Kroger
Speaker 2 01:32:56 Across from a dollar Kroger, <laugh>. It really is. It is, but it's the one on off 21st. Okay. And it's like this little shack basically. And it is, so it's
Speaker 3 01:33:07 The
Speaker 1 01:33:07 Back
Speaker 3 01:33:07 Naco.
Speaker 1 01:33:08 How does it compare to Gabby's? What
Speaker 2 01:33:10 Is
Speaker 1 01:33:11 That? It mean the Gabby's? No, it's another little shithole Burger place. Been.
Speaker 2 01:33:14 Okay. Well I've have to go and
Speaker 1 01:33:15 Compare them. That one's over by, um, what's down Second Avenue? Down that way. Okay. Down towards Lucky's or Jack or whatever. That's okay.
Speaker 3 01:33:26 Like over Germantown area?
Speaker 1 01:33:27 No, like south of Town. Oh. Like sober area, but Jack's. Okay. So I gotta check it out. Or Browns?
Speaker 2 01:33:33 Brown's not,
Speaker 1 01:33:34 Yes. Cause there's also a Jack's barbecue. There's a Jack Browns a Jack and there's and there's Browns. And then there's a Browns
Speaker 2 01:33:39 Too many. Yeah. Go to Browns. It's so good. I mean, I like it cuz I like the vibe. I mean I love the burgers, but I also like, like it's not, there's no bells and whistles. Like Yeah. It, there's like a pool table I think in there at night. It can be like a bar. I've never been at night. I've only been like for lunch or
Speaker 3 01:33:56 Dinner. The one thing I have to say about Browns, uh oh. And I, I love
Speaker 2 01:34:00 Their
Speaker 3 01:34:01 Thing. I love their food, but I do not think I've ever went in there and gotten good service.
Speaker 2 01:34:07 Well that's the thing. Another thing I like about it though is like, your waitress is gonna be like some old lady named Crystal. Like
Speaker 3 01:34:14 Yeah. But
Speaker 2 01:34:14 That's why I like
Speaker 1 01:34:15 It's baby how you doing with like, she like, what can I get you to drink?
Speaker 2 01:34:19 Like pink fingernails
Speaker 1 01:34:20 Get you fill her nails banging on the table. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:34:22 I must have just went.
Speaker 2 01:34:23 She's like real tan and
Speaker 3 01:34:25 Like, I must have went on the wrong days. Cuz I feel like everyone I've gotten in there has just been like,
Speaker 2 01:34:30 Well I didn't say Crystal was getting
Speaker 3 01:34:31 Any good definition service. The definition of a female dog. Like, and you know, like, just terrible, like worst service you could
Speaker 2 01:34:38 Get. But that's part of
Speaker 1 01:34:38 The experience. That's why we love Waffle House though. But see it's not like
Speaker 3 01:34:41 Thing, but like the Hermitage Gin or the Hermitage's Cafe, that was great. They had notoriously like, but it was like funny bad service.
Speaker 2 01:34:49 Yeah. Cash. Browns
Speaker 3 01:34:50 Cash only is just kinda like
Speaker 1 01:34:51 Cash only.
Speaker 3 01:34:52 Yeah. Yeah. Brown's is just kind of like, oh, you want food? Okay. Like here. And then they just like, I don't know, they're just kind of rude I feel like. But I don't know. Well maybe that's hot take, but sometimes
Speaker 1 01:35:05 We, sometimes we, the service doesn't matter. We still go to places like Red Door. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:35:10 <laugh>. Yeah. Well I don't even
Speaker 2 01:35:12 Wait. I'll just
Speaker 1 01:35:13 Say, we'll say Ronnie is the best bartender in the city of Nashville. Ronnie. Yeah, for sure. The
Speaker 2 01:35:18 Bar. The bartenders at Red have got it figured out. I will say. Yeah. They have a system. I don't know what it is, but it's like the Chick-fil-A drive-through line. Like they have got
Speaker 1 01:35:26 It. I I think it's the slowest service in town.
Speaker 3 01:35:28 Oh no,
Speaker 1 01:35:28 Really? I don't even fucking drink. I,
Speaker 2 01:35:31 I think
Speaker 1 01:35:31 I look there, it takes me 20 minutes to get a water unless Ronnie's there. Yeah. Then he is like tequila soda and then he gives me a soda water with a shit ton of limes. Yeah. I was at the Sniff it. Make sure there's no tequila in there. I'll, I'll relapse, break out in handcuffs. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 01:35:44 Oh God. Break out
Speaker 3 01:35:46 In handcuffs. No, I don't know. I feel like I've always had, there's, there have been a few times where I've stood in like, you know where the corner is over at Red Door? Like where the two wall? Yeah. Like where that opening is. Yeah. And you just sit there for like 30 minutes Cuz Yeah. Cuz you're like, yeah, I've done that once or twice. Yeah. But for the most part, I get good service at Red
Speaker 2 01:36:03 Door. Yeah. I think they just have a good system. You know what I am not a fan of is, this might be a hot take, but Red Door and East,
Speaker 3 01:36:11 I've never been been, it's
Speaker 2 01:36:12 Different. It's like the Twilight Zones, like Yeah. It's different world. You walk in and you think it's gonna look like the regular one and everything's flipped around and it is like, I don't like it. <laugh>
Speaker 3 01:36:21 I haven't been because I love Red Door so much that I don't wanna like ruin the, like what I already have for
Speaker 2 01:36:27 It. Yeah. No need.
Speaker 3 01:36:28 Yeah. So I'm just like, I can just drive 20 minutes and go to the good one. You know the good
Speaker 2 01:36:32 One. Yeah,
Speaker 1 01:36:33 The good one. Yeah. I feel like we got it. We got, we owe it to Red Door East to go there now Wade, do I have to
Speaker 3 01:36:39 Go there now? Just check it out. I have to try it and see if it's actually the bad one.
Speaker 1 01:36:43 I will say though, I wonder if Red Door East has the regulars like Red Door normal Red Door has Yeah. Like, like Boston. Mike Boston, Mike Classic, redor. What's his last name? I don't know. He's Boston Mike. I don't know his, his
Speaker 3 01:36:57 Last name. I can't remember. Cuz him and Cato are friends.
Speaker 1 01:36:59 His name's Mike. He's always got the, the Red Sox hat on. He talks like a dude from Boston. He's always got Marlboro Black one hundreds and a very tasty herbal pen on him. And no matter if you, if you need it, he's got it. You know, there's like Boston Mike's always in there. Ivy and uh, Dean are always in there. There's yeah, they're always in there. There's just certain people that are just regulars. Just characters. Like they're, there's gonna be a statue of them in Red door one day. There's gonna be a statue of Boston sitting at one of the little red tables and the only little section you can smoke in Now. Uhhuh <affirmative>. You can't smoke in the whole patio anymore. What's up with that? I
Speaker 2 01:37:33 Know, I'm sorry. But what is up with that? I disagree. It's <laugh>.
Speaker 3 01:37:37 You should be able to smoke
Speaker 1 01:37:40 That'ss a different,
Speaker 3 01:37:41 It's AM's tough. I might not be gonna red anymore.
Speaker 1 01:37:43 It's a hot I know. It's, it's different. I remember when you could smoke in losers. Yeah. I remember when you could smoke at winners behind the stage at Whiskey Jam. Oh,
Speaker 2 01:37:52 I
Speaker 1 01:37:52 Ripped so many six. Really? Whiskey jam. I would've too day. That was so bad to me. But I still bum. See I'm at the, I'm at the stage now where I'm like, yeah, I don't smoke, but if I'm out I will be friends with people in the smoking section. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and I, I don't even, I don't keep a lighter on me as our buddy. Alex Cape likes to say, if you don't keep a lighter on you, you don't smoke. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you don't smoke. You know, I'm not a true, but, but I, I may somehow ingest like 10 cigarettes into my system through the course of a night. Like just same. Have a
Speaker 2 01:38:21 Pack of, I'm not above that either.
Speaker 1 01:38:23 Key West, we're gonna smoke a lot of cigarettes.
Speaker 2 01:38:25 Yeah. I, so yeah, I used to vape really bad and then, and, but I would smoke cigarettes in college every once in a while and then I quit vaping. Which,
Speaker 1 01:38:33 Which did You weren't a menthol girl. Were were you or were you whatever the, whatever the guy
Speaker 2 01:38:37 I was a white girl came
Speaker 3 01:38:39 Blues
Speaker 2 01:38:39 Or camel blues.
Speaker 1 01:38:40 Camel Blues
Speaker 2 01:38:41 And now and, and
Speaker 1 01:38:42 AML Blues.
Speaker 2 01:38:43 And I quit. Like I was nicotine free for a little while and then I wrote a song called Camel Blues. And,
Speaker 3 01:38:50 And now she's got a smoke candle.
Speaker 2 01:38:51 It, you know, it was just about, you know, I mean you'll have to hear it when it comes out. But yeah, I now like, it's got me back on him and I'm not, I'm trying to, it's not bad yet.
Speaker 3 01:39:01 It's like manifestation. It's got
Speaker 1 01:39:03 Me and
Speaker 3 01:39:04 Starts singing about
Speaker 1 01:39:05 You. A pack a day. No,
Speaker 2 01:39:06 No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking like one while I'm driving. Every once in a while
Speaker 1 01:39:11 I got to the point where I was like close to two packs a day. Oh geez. It was bad.
Speaker 2 01:39:17 No,
Speaker 1 01:39:17 It was bad. But then I saw
Speaker 2 01:39:19 It's bad for my voice. That's my one thing that I won't, I'm like, that's my one thing that motivates me to not
Speaker 1 01:39:25 See my, what was really fucked up. This tells you how bad of a nicotine fe I am. I, so I got, I um, since I, I bought, I bought a Tacoma last year. A new, new truck
Speaker 2 01:39:34 I used said you
Speaker 1 01:39:34 A Tacoma. What? Great tacos, great trucks.
Speaker 2 01:39:36 Love loved it. Part of
Speaker 3 01:39:37 Messed up Lauren
Speaker 2 01:39:38 <laugh>. No, I ran her to the ground. I had to get, I, I cried when we had to trade her in. You
Speaker 1 01:39:44 Had to put her down.
Speaker 3 01:39:45 I loved that
Speaker 1 01:39:45 Thing. But, um, I've, I kind of made a promise to myself because I, my previous cars, I had always been been ripping darts, you know. Oh yeah. I've been ripping cigs. There were mm-hmm. <affirmative> to the point where there were fucking like holes in between my legs, like in the seats and the cloth I
Speaker 3 01:39:58 Burned. Oh
Speaker 1 01:39:59 Dang. I was just smoking lots of cigs. Yeah. So I, I started smoking, I started using these things and I called these my car sakes cause I wouldn't smoke in the truck. I'd be driving in the van or in the bus with the guys Uhhuh. Cause some bus drivers are cool and they'll let you roll down the front window. You'll sit in the jump seat with 'em.
Speaker 3 01:40:18 See, I don't know. I'm getting to the point now where it's like, you know, I mean
Speaker 1 01:40:23 That's
Speaker 3 01:40:24 Nicotine's one thing. But like, you know, the grass in the vans when you can, like, when they don't care and you can roll out the window. I'm more of more of a, I'm getting Yeah. I'm more of a joint guy these days. Yeah. Yeah. I
Speaker 2 01:40:38 Mean whatever. I mean that's definitely better for
Speaker 1 01:40:40 You mean?
Speaker 3 01:40:41 Yeah. I don't know because I don't know. It's just,
Speaker 1 01:40:44 Just Have you, have you played in the legal state yet?
Speaker 3 01:40:48 New York was, New York was fun. Yeah, that was probably my favorite one.
Speaker 1 01:40:52 Oh, we didn't even fucking talk. This is gonna be longest episode ever, but I'm here for it. We
Speaker 2 01:40:56 We talk a
Speaker 1 01:40:56 Lot. Yes, I do too. Um, where in New York did you guys play? Mercury
Speaker 2 01:41:00 Lounge.
Speaker 3 01:41:00 Okay. We were right beside cats. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:41:02 Were you guys, were you guys early show or late show?
Speaker 2 01:41:04 They were early show. We were early.
Speaker 3 01:41:07 Were like
Speaker 1 01:41:07 6 30, 7 30. Do two or three shows a night there. Seven nights a week. Oh
Speaker 3 01:41:11 Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:41:12 Like as you guys load out, then another band loads in. Yeah. Sound checks. And then everybody that pays for the show to see you guys goes out to like the area where the merch is or whatever. Mm-hmm. Oh shit. Or if you're, if you wanna be, if you wanna be a little, little cheapy, you can stay in there and kind of hide in the shadows. You can get, you can get two or three shows in and it'll be like, cause I saw, I saw um, I saw Luke Combs in that room like 20 15, 20 16. Oh that's cool. Who else I saw, uh, Mitchell Tenpenny in that, like a lot of artists that's come up, but yeah. Kaz, Stella. Did you guys get a sandwich?
Speaker 2 01:41:45 <laugh>
Speaker 1 01:41:46 You spend your whole day right? On a sandwich? No,
Speaker 3 01:41:48 I did not. I wanted to, to try a sandwich. So I've never had corn, beef or pastrami. And
Speaker 1 01:41:54 I wanted Yeah, you're Carolina Boy Bowl. Were of course you have. I
Speaker 3 01:41:57 Wanted to
Speaker 2 01:41:57 Try
Speaker 3 01:41:58 On the A sandwich so bad for
Speaker 2 01:41:59 We were being like brother and sister Bickery at this
Speaker 3 01:42:02 Point. So me and like, and then Braylin, I asked her opinion. I'm like, so I've heard this deli is like the best in the world, you know, and I've never tried corn beef or pastrami, but you know, like, these look really good, but it's $25. You know, I don't know if I wanna spend that much money. Something I've never had before, you know, and might hate it. And they both taught me out of it. We
Speaker 2 01:42:26 Just ripped.
Speaker 3 01:42:27 And after I, so after I started this conversation, then I fought against him cuz I wanted it so bad. And they were like not having it instead.
Speaker 2 01:42:34 Well he was asking our, our opinions and then when we would give him our opinion, he was like, had an argument. And I'm like, well then why are you even asking?
Speaker 3 01:42:40 Because I'm indecisive. You know this by now. He is every, everybody should. If they don't, I am like the most indecisive person.
Speaker 2 01:42:47 Especially about like what we wear
Speaker 3 01:42:50 Clothing. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 01:42:51 Clothing. Uhhuh, <affirmative>. How many times do you change? Do you swap out of outfits before you go on stage?
Speaker 3 01:42:57 Not, not before I go on stage because I'll sit there and like pick it apart until I finally get the perfect outfit together. But like,
Speaker 2 01:43:05 It's nothing crazy. It'll just be like this
Speaker 3 01:43:07 Shirt or this shirt. Which shirt? This hat or this hat.
Speaker 1 01:43:09 Put them back. Which hoodie? This hat or that hat? Hat. These shoes thing. I got the white on the hat. I gotta have the white on the shoe. Uh, yeah. Oh, I break out the boots. Thin hat
Speaker 2 01:43:16 Or no hat?
Speaker 3 01:43:16 Yeah. Yeah. Hat or no hat? Because
Speaker 2 01:43:18 People love the hair.
Speaker 3 01:43:19 If I'm gonna do this hat, is it this one or this one?
Speaker 1 01:43:22 People love, people love the hair. Yeah. People love
Speaker 2 01:43:24 Mullets. People love mullets People. People wanna take pictures with him after the shows at the
Speaker 3 01:43:29 March table. Mullet Man. Mullet Man, you called me that somewhere. Some girls Mullet man. Mullet
Speaker 2 01:43:35 Man. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3 01:43:36 This, that was hilarious. But New York,
Speaker 1 01:43:39 Next time you go to New York, go to cats. Don't talk 'em out of it. I know.
Speaker 2 01:43:43 I just go
Speaker 3 01:43:43 To Prince Street. Didn't where that was good. Prince Street Pizza.
Speaker 1 01:43:46 Prince Street's good. That was really good. That's good. You gotta go to like the Village. New York's just a whole different animal. Like the city's.
Speaker 2 01:43:51 It was cool. I mean it's a lot. I wish we could like, I wanna go back again. Like not you'll be back
Speaker 1 01:43:56 There.
Speaker 2 01:43:57 I know. I'll wanna go for a weekend. Like not working. Yeah. So that I can like actually go see stuff. But it was cool. I mean I've just never seen, I've never seen a city that big. I've, I've never seen any, anything like that. Like just you would look down a street and all you could see was just like built like
Speaker 1 01:44:12 Yeah. You can't see the sky. Yeah. The sky's
Speaker 2 01:44:14 Pretty. It was wild. Wild, wild. It was cool.
Speaker 1 01:44:16 Honestly, don't what you should do. You should fuck with him. Should go up there, take a trip with your friends. Yeah. Get cats. Send them a picture of the sandwich.
Speaker 2 01:44:24 I, that's exactly what I'm gonna do. Oh, I know. And
Speaker 1 01:44:26 I'm gonna get way, this is delicious. And now it's $30. Yep. Inflation. I cause of inflation. They have good hot dogs and stuff there too. And that, that place is like historic. Like that's, they filmed a lot of Seinfeld episodes in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:44:39 Yeah. See I didn't realize what an icon it was or it wouldn't have been. So it's
Speaker 1 01:44:42 Grumpy. It's special. It is, it is. The Jewish deli of America. Like you guys, you two really messed you up that experience. And it's right by, we
Speaker 2 01:44:51 Really messed it
Speaker 1 01:44:52 Up for him. And it's right by Houston Street, not Houston. They call it Houston there, which is again, odd. It's felt like Houston, but I even used to call it Houston Street. Um, my, my dad was like, no, it's houseton. All right. Shit.
Speaker 2 01:45:04 I would've
Speaker 1 01:45:05 Called it that. Yeah. So when is, when can we, um, expect some, uh, some music from you? We know, we know we can go out and shoot, you know, we can go out and see you on the road. Yeah. Folks that are coming to Key West can see you down in Key West. Yeah. They can find you at Red Door or Browns. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But when, when is the music coming?
Speaker 2 01:45:20 I mean, all I can say is very, very, very soon. Like, I really can't say, doesn't
Speaker 1 01:45:26 Even know this, this episode comes out April 7th.
Speaker 2 01:45:30 Okay. Very shortly after that actually. Okay. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay. <laugh>. But I feel like it's, it's happened fast but at the same time I feel like it's been a long time coming cuz these songs are just, I'm really, really excited about 'em. Yeah. So it's very soon sooner than you know, it,
Speaker 1 01:45:47 You working with Joey on them.
Speaker 2 01:45:48 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Joey away. Yeah. He is a badass. Yeah. And it's a genius. And we just really vibe. Like he really, really gets the, the picture and I mean the band, the players we used are just like the best of the best. So I'm really excited. I'm excited for it to just be out in the world and for people to finally just get to hear so people don't think I've been sitting around for the past couple of
Speaker 1 01:46:11 Years twiddling driving around in a Jeep with just
Speaker 2 01:46:13 Twiddling my thumbs. Yeah. Talking him out of getting sandwiches.
Speaker 1 01:46:18 Yeah. Getting cats. Yeah. Well guys, I really appreciate y'all coming on and uh, we
Speaker 2 01:46:22 Appreciate you.
Speaker 1 01:46:22 Yeah. This was, this was a lot of fun and it's so cool to, I've never had, like, I've had an, an artist and a tour manager before, like mm-hmm. <affirmative> an artist and like a content person, like a day-to-day person. I've never had like an artist and, and a player. Yeah. And then like the player to where it's like acoustic duo that you're going out and doing. Oh yeah. Like it's, it's been, it's been you two doing the damn thing for me
Speaker 2 01:46:44 And you
Speaker 1 01:46:45 And um, and you got, you still got more, more stuff to come. So, and it's so cool to see you guys like brother, sister, like you. I can tell. Yeah. It takes a special, it takes a special person to go out on. Like it takes a, like I've been on the road with Sweet boy. I've wanted to sweet boy. I've wanted, I've wanted to, wanted to, wanted to beat his ass. Sometimes he's wanted to beat my ass. Like, that's part of the dynamic of being on
Speaker 2 01:47:03 The road. I'm wanted to beat my ass <laugh> time too.
Speaker 3 01:47:07 Why did to cut that off?
Speaker 2 01:47:08 And I don't blame you for it.
Speaker 1 01:47:10 No, but what I'm saying is like, it takes, it takes a special dynamic to be on the road and Yeah. To be in closed quarters and to be be starting starting from the ground up kind of thing together. Yeah. So I'm excited for what the future holds for you guys.
Speaker 2 01:47:21 Well thank you. I'm excited too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:47:23 Thank you very
Speaker 2 01:47:24 Much. Thank y'all for having us. This has been really, really awesome.
Speaker 1 01:47:26 Of course. Where can people go to find you on all the social medias and shit?
Speaker 2 01:47:30 You can find me on Instagram, Lauren dot Watkins. And then I'm also on the TikTok <laugh> and I can't think of what my username is. Do you know what it is?
Speaker 3 01:47:40 I have no idea. It's
Speaker 2 01:47:41 Like Laura dot Watkins or something.
Speaker 1 01:47:43 Just search, hold
Speaker 2 01:47:44 On, let me look it up. Just
Speaker 3 01:47:45 Search
Speaker 1 01:47:45 Lauren Watkins and you. It'll probably pop up.
Speaker 2 01:47:48 That shows you how good I am with social media. I don't even know what my uh, handle is. Hold on. Instagram is Lauren Watkins though? There we
Speaker 1 01:47:57 Go. We're one for one.
Speaker 2 01:47:58 TikTok is Lat Watkins. L a u r Watkins. Awesome. On the TikTok.
Speaker 1 01:48:04 Oh yeah. And then you're
Speaker 3 01:48:05 Wade. My Instagram is, uh, Wade Davis. 16, which yeah. And then <laugh>,
Speaker 2 01:48:14 What's the story behind that?
Speaker 1 01:48:15 What was that, what sport were you wearing number? 16. 16. In 16.
Speaker 3 01:48:18 All. Well, baseball, I mean, I really only played baseball, but Yeah. So that's for the 16. And then Yeah, that's, I mean, yeah, I got Facebook, but like, does, do people still use Facebook these days?
Speaker 2 01:48:33 I don't know how to use
Speaker 1 01:48:34 Facebook. Yeah. I
Speaker 3 01:48:34 Be like, I don't think people still use that.
Speaker 2 01:48:35 Some people I don't know how to use it.
Speaker 3 01:48:37 Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't push on Facebook anymore, so
Speaker 2 01:48:42 I also, I do have YouTube too also. Yeah. Where I, I have some acoustic versions of songs we're putting out really soon on YouTube. Cool. To hold you over to hold us over if you feel like going and listening to those. I got that too. Perfect.
Speaker 1 01:48:53 Absolutely. We'll definitely check that out. Well guys, be sure to check out our friends, Lauren Watkins and Wade Davis coming to a city near you. Music coming really soon. Um, and, uh, if you're out in the crowd, be sure to yell out Mullet man. And yes, yell it out for a boy Wade and compliment him on whatever atti, whatever attire he decides to go with that night. <laugh> be on the lookout for Lauren's music. For real. She's freaking awesome and, uh, we're super stoked to have had her today and, um, excited to see what she's gonna be doing in the future. Um, shout out to our friends real quick from Whale Tale Media, Saxon Studios, pickle Jar Live, big friendly productions, and our new friends over at Bud Light. Very thankful for the Bud Light, even though I don't drink. We, we appreciate you stocking us with some beers. But, uh, for Sweet Boy and the whole team, um, you'll be sure to, uh, come back and check out another episode, like rate, subscribe and uh, we will see you next time. This has been the In The Round podcast.
