Muscadine Bloodline

Speaker 1 00:00:15 There we go. That's the way to start. What's going on everybody? Welcome to this week's edition of the In The Round podcast, first episode of 2020. You got Matt and Tyler here, and we've got two of our buddies, two guys that we spend a lot of time with, uh, that, that choose to spend a lot of time with us. We've got Gary Stanton and Charlie Muncaster from Musk Island Bloodline Boys. How we doing? Speaker 2 00:00:32 We're good, man. We're Speaker 3 00:00:34 Doing good. First of all, this is really funny because we don't, we don't usually see y'all in this type of setting, so Yeah, Speaker 1 00:00:39 Yeah, I know, right? Speaker 2 00:00:40 It's cool to sound Cause you guys see y'all in y'all's element stuff We've seen now we've seen the, the writers round and we get to see Mag get up there and do his thing and I'm like, I love watching you up there. Like, I appreciate that man. The, the radio voice comes in, Speaker 3 00:00:52 It turns it on, turns it on the host. Speaker 2 00:00:54 It's really neat. But yeah, we went, actually went out to the, to the writers round last night and good turnout. Oh, Lee Boy played Lee Speaker 1 00:01:01 Langston showing it up. Shout Speaker 2 00:01:03 Out to Lee, our singing floor manager Speaker 1 00:01:04 Singing, singing songs. That is Speaker 4 00:01:05 Not the Lee I know. Either. Singing Speaker 1 00:01:06 Songs about knocking boots, smoking cigarettes, drinking beer, Speaker 4 00:01:10 Lee drinking Speaker 1 00:01:12 What? Speaker 2 00:01:12 But, uh, no, it was cool. Y'all got a cool thing going on and uh, we're happy to be here to hang out with y'all guys. Speaker 1 00:01:17 Oh dude, we appreciate it and we appreciate you guys played one a couple weeks ago and it was freaking awesome. And it was like the first round you guys had done in what year? Two years, something like that? Speaker 3 00:01:26 It was at least a year. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:01:27 At least a year. Yeah. I mean, I mean, coming to town, like we used to do the revival, uh, guy like that was every Tuesday and that was like the thing. Yeah. And I, I don't, I don't, I don't let, like, I haven't been in a long time, but like I remember just every Tuesday it was like, that's where you go to hang out. Yeah. And so like maybe on Mondays this will be the place to hang out. Speaker 4 00:01:45 We're actually moving to Tuesdays now. Oh. Speaker 1 00:01:47 So, well, hang on. We got fucked up. Yeah, we got fucked up. So it's, it's changing around a little bit now for the month of January, but like, like you said, writers rounds are so freaking cool. Yeah. And for me, coming from the radio stuff and beating up in New York, there's nothing like that anywhere else, like in the country or in the world. No. So to come to Nashville and get to just hang out with, with songwriters and for you guys, you get, uh, you move to town, that's probably a great way to network, a great way to find co-writers. Like, it's huge. Speaker 3 00:02:10 It's, it's the easiest way. Like there's hundred dudes in there that write songs, you know, and so we used to go hang out and make a few connections and, and do that type of stuff. And now we're a little too busy. But, uh, it's still, it is still fun to go down there every now and then and just see the young talent of Nashville and just see what's going on. You know, Speaker 2 00:02:30 It's kind of funny. Like there's like, I feel like a lot of times Nashville's like school, like everyone takes breaks in December and like, and it's, it's funny, it's like semester's work and so people graduate college or decide to move up and most of the time I feel like when people do rent and stuff like that, they start in either like right there in May or June or start in December, the brand new year. So there's kind of like this graduating class kind of class system of Nashville and you have this like six month period of guys who moved up at the same time and you like get like in tune with those guys. Yeah. Like, so like Jordan Fletcher moved up when we moved up here. Job did, you know, Ray Fulcher and, and Luke Combs and all them. They were all like, kind of in the same, within the same year. And so that's who you kind of pile around with. And then now you get to see those guys who were, we were all playing rounds together. They're getting number ones on the radio. I mean, Luke's selling out arenas, Speaker 1 00:03:23 You know? Yeah. And then you're going, then you're doing shows where you've got guys like Jordan and Job and Ray and like that like continuity, like to see it all kind of grow together where everybody's out playing shows now everybody's putting dope shit out. Like it, like it's real, it's really cool to see Speaker 2 00:03:36 Everybody's winning. Yeah. And so it is just really cool to see everybody like in their own Right. Winning at what they're doing. So it's, it's a really cool thing. And that's the beauty of Nashville, I feel like most of the time. Uh, everyone's like, you know, a cheerleader for everybody and everybody wants to see everybody succeed in this town. Yeah. A lot. And so it's cool. But yeah, the, the ride around things are awesome. I love when people who aren't involved in the music industry get to come see one cuz they, cuz like you said, there's nothing like it anywhere. Yeah. And so, like, you might even get this guy who can't sing, you know, a tune in a bucket, but he's got number one hits and you're like, oh wow, this is where this song came from. Yeah. That one of my favorite artists sings and they get to see the person behind the song. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:04:18 And it's the effect that it's original music. And again, I, I first moved to town I was working on, bro, that's how I met this, this beautiful bojo over here. <laugh>. We we were working. Yeah. We were, we were working on Broadway and it's just the constant covers and people are like, oh, music City. Like where's the original music? You gotta go to Midtown and you gotta find it. Yeah. Damian and and division are great places to find that. Now, Damian, y'all, I'm sure you stuffed some nights out there where you were hanging out at Tin Roof. You were hanging out at Doghouse and stuff. Oh absolutely. Speaker 2 00:04:42 I mean there was always like this, like, it was like you start at Tin Roof, you go to the round and then then you head over to losers, Speaker 3 00:04:50 Start moving down <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:04:51 Everyone makes the walk. It doesn't matter if it's cold or rain, it's like whatever. We're too poor to, you know, pay for more parking. So, uh, we actually would go down there and then you always end up at Red Door. Oh yeah. And, and then it'd be like two 30 in the morning and be like, Speaker 3 00:05:05 And you're just seeing red Literally because Yeah, because of the lights in there. It's like, Speaker 2 00:05:08 Golly, we need to get home. Speaker 1 00:05:09 Yeah. And people are smoking in there. You can eat, you can get the freaking potato salads. Get the pizza. Speaker 3 00:05:13 Pizza. Speaker 2 00:05:14 The little pizza. Speaker 1 00:05:14 You're outdoor pizza guy. Okay. Oh yeah, I was here about the potato salad. I Speaker 4 00:05:17 Still have not ate there. Speaker 3 00:05:19 Yeah. I mean it's not bad. Like it's pretty good bar food. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 00:05:22 I mean anything at two 30 after Yeah, a couple Speaker 1 00:05:24 Brew out. Speaker 3 00:05:24 You had some, some brew in. Uh, that's Speaker 1 00:05:26 Why Cookout does so want, I want them to put, and you guys introduced me to this with the Honey Booboo biscuit. I want to have a water burger in Nashville because I know like that would be our Speaker 3 00:05:34 Did not have Water burger here. No, Speaker 4 00:05:36 No. They had one like back in the nineties and it closed. Speaker 3 00:05:39 And uh, I guess growing up with Whataburger, I'm not like Cove. I'm not the dude that's like, I want Water burger all the time just because it's how Speaker 2 00:05:47 We are like in and out and stuff like that. When we go out to like Texas, we're like, oh, we gotta get this. Speaker 1 00:05:50 What's better? Dalton told Dalton to back. He tells me that in and out way better. I know he's a Cali Speaker 3 00:05:56 Guy personally. I, I like Inn out better just be, and, and it might be because of the, like I grew up with it. It's just like Inn Out is such a rare thing for me. Yeah. And so I think that's why whenever it's around I'm like, oh my gosh, I gotta have it. Yeah. I could pass a water burger 20 times and not think about it. Because you do Speaker 1 00:06:12 On your drive home back. And Speaker 2 00:06:14 I like the fact that Inn Out has like this secret menu. Yeah. And like, but like, everyone knows it, but it's kind of like, it's not on the menu, so it's like Speaker 3 00:06:21 Yeah, it's like a club. Speaker 2 00:06:22 I'm gonna get that. Uh, the four by four, the Flying Speaker 3 00:06:24 Dutch, the Flying Dutchman. Speaker 1 00:06:26 Okay. I know what I'm getting now. When we, we be eventually hitting Inn out somewhere. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:29 We're gonna be, I mean in Dallas they have one too. Oh hell yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:31 In Dallas. I'm down. We're I'm down. So you guys, so you moved to town what four you guys started this thing. Congratulations. Four year anniversary. You guys just celebrated that, which has gotta be crazy to think about. So when did you guys first meet, like officially, because I hear the story all the time beating out the road and stuff of you guys kind of knew of each other, but how did you guys like formally? Speaker 3 00:06:49 I think, I think it was in 2011 roughly. Yeah, I Speaker 2 00:06:53 Was a senior in high Speaker 3 00:06:53 School and uh, yeah. And I was, I had just gotten to Auburn and like ironically got to Auburn, went for a year and then quit school and I was cutting grass and playing music on the side. Just, I was literally just playing covers and just, I'd written like a song or two in my entire life that were really bad and I thought I was fantastic at the time. But you know, you start playing around the state a little bit where you, you and it's easy where all your friends go. So all of my friends were in Auburn and Mobile in Tuscaloosa. So I'm like, okay, well there's three shows right there. Yeah. But anyways, I was, I was going down to mobile and doing, uh, I say this like lightly a year end show, but you know, it was like one of those shows where like 20 of your best friends would come out and watch you play and Speaker 1 00:07:37 Y'all just party have a good time. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:07:39 I mean we were literally like, weren't even making money. Like it was probably like $10 ahead and you do the math 10 times, 20, you know, not that much money and uh, but just to help people get in there, we would have like an opener from there that he's got a lot of friends too. And somebody suggested Gary and then that's literally how we met. Speaker 2 00:07:57 Yeah. I remember when we met, I was, I was sound checking on stage and Charlie Rolls, Andy has this cutting edge hoodie, hoodie on he Oh yeah. The Grass Speaker 3 00:08:05 Company still rocked that. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:08:07 And uh, he had a brace hat on and I remember he was trying to barter with the like door guy on giving him like a 21 year old wristband. He's like, what do you mean you won't let me drink in my own show Speaker 3 00:08:16 <laugh>? Speaker 2 00:08:17 It was a, it was a whole thing. And, and like I remember I was up there like trying to be the one man ba I had, dude, I had a freaking kick drum up there, a harmonica and a guitar and I was just up there just like one man banding it. That's Speaker 3 00:08:29 Pretty impressive. I, I was the first time I had seen Gary Play Live and I was like, okay. Cuz he had like the harmonica literally he, like you said, kick drum. He had like this little pedal board. Like he was doing a lot of stuff up there by himself. I know. Speaker 4 00:08:41 I've seen some of the old YouTube videos of you. Yeah. And it's, it's some great stuff. Yeah. <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:08:45 There's some, there's some gold in there. You can find some old Speaker 3 00:08:48 Stuff with all of us. Speaker 2 00:08:49 That, all that stuff is like, it's funny, my, my mom has this like YouTube alias alias. It's like Kate Henderson. It's so, it's not, it's like her, like her, her, her like middle name and her like maiden name. Speaker 3 00:09:01 Everyone's googling this right now. Speaker 2 00:09:02 She's like, I don't want anyone to find my, you know, God forbid they get my, like you steal Speaker 3 00:09:06 My identity Speaker 2 00:09:07 <laugh>. I'm on Speaker 3 00:09:08 King account number. Speaker 2 00:09:09 Yeah. And so, uh, it's funny. So a lot of that's my mom on my mom's page and so I don't know stage's mom. Yeah. I don't think that's ever coming down. So if you want to search that stuff, Speaker 1 00:09:19 But, but YouTube was a, had to be a huge tool for you guys. I know it still is. You guys have done the unreleased stuff. You guys have been putting out, you just put out the acoustic EP officially. I mean we've been selling it at the shows, but it's officially out there. So you're doing all those videos. But back in the day, YouTube had to be a big tool for getting your stuff out there. I Speaker 2 00:09:34 Know you were on it hard. Like Speaker 3 00:09:36 You I I was uploading like covers and stuff. Yeah. I mean I was trying to utilize it. Yeah. But I, I wouldn't necessarily say it was like a big tool for us yet, or me personally. Just because like, it, if if you got, if you don't have anybody watching it, you know, it doesn't really matter. So yeah, I was just uploading covers here and there and it's, it is kind of funny though cuz people will come up to shows now and they're like, dude, where did all those videos go? <laugh>? You know? And I'm like, well first of all, I thought, I don't think they sounded that great. So I just ripped 'em all down. So like, I wouldn't get ripped by doing a podcast 10 years later. <laugh> like, what is this video of you singing this Justin Bieber cover or something like that? Speaker 2 00:10:14 Yeah, I was on, I I didn't really get into like, posting stuff on the internet until like Facebook allowed video. Yeah. And I was like, oh this is a gay Speaker 1 00:10:21 Game because people can share it and it, it has such a bigger reach and Speaker 2 00:10:24 So, and so that's when like I really started, you know, posting stuff. I never really got you. YouTube was so hard. Cause there was like so much because like I had the, the i the iPhone. Was it the Touch? What was that? The, what was the one? It Speaker 3 00:10:36 Was like you talking about the iPod Touch? Yeah, Speaker 2 00:10:38 The iPod Touch. Yeah. Yeah. Golly, this is, so Speaker 3 00:10:40 I had that too. You can get wifi Speaker 2 00:10:41 On it. Yeah, you can get wifi. So I got Facebook on it. So now absolutely Mom can't get in on my logins, you know, on on the, the desktop <laugh> and uh, she Speaker 3 00:10:50 Can't see either your Speaker 2 00:10:50 Messaging. She can't Speaker 4 00:10:52 All those risky dms now. Right. Speaker 2 00:10:53 <laugh>. And so, so then it just had like the camera thing and it's like, oh wait, I can just post this Speaker 3 00:10:59 Just record boom. Speaker 2 00:11:00 And then it's up online. So that's when I really started like Speaker 3 00:11:03 Internet was a little slower, but you know. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:06 And then yeah. That, that dial up or whatever. But uh, but no, still Speaker 4 00:11:09 Lived out in Hosford all Alabama <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:11:11 Right. <laugh> Mobile had Okay. Internet Speaker 2 00:11:13 And I know where Tyler's from cuz my grandparents are from like 20 minutes from where Tyler went to, went to high school. Tyler and I actually played each other in high school for Yeah. Yeah. That's what's crazy. Speaker 4 00:11:23 Our senior year. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:24 Because we graduated the same time. But, uh, but yeah, those days and where he's from, they're a, a damn thing out there. So like <laugh>, Speaker 4 00:11:32 I, I'm pretty sure I was like a senior in high school when we finally got like high speed internet. And even then, like even today, like they're only required to give you like 1.5 megabytes per second. Yeah. And like they barely meet that. Geez. Yeah. And there's a monopoly out there. Like they don't have Speaker 3 00:11:46 Google fiber. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:11:47 <laugh>. We ain't got shifts. <laugh>. Yeah. And, and we were lucky cuz we lived like, it was like you had to live within like a mile of like a power station to get high speed internet and we lived like 0.9 miles from Speaker 1 00:11:58 One Just inside of it. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:12:00 Just inside. Like our neighbors couldn't get it. Damn. Speaker 1 00:12:02 Brutal. Speaker 3 00:12:03 Going back to the uh, to the actual, like Gary was talking about the Facebook, like uploading videos. I can actually like pinpoint back when I was younger and uploading a video, like my very first little video, I didn't even have my head in it. Like, it was literally like m my from chest to Speaker 1 00:12:20 To belt just from to belt. Speaker 2 00:12:22 I'm trying, remember the first thing I ever posted Speaker 3 00:12:23 On there? I, I posted a, a chorus of hi by Casey Donahue Band and I just remember vividly like going to school the next day and there was like, people were like, oh, like you sing. Yeah, you can do this, you can do like, this is incredible. And I was like, really? And they were like, like people treated me differently because of that. And I think that's like part of like catching the bug of like playing music a hundred. Like oh my gosh, this is really cool to do this. People like it, you know? Yeah. Speaker 2 00:12:51 Well you find, I mean it's kind of one of those things like when, when you first start off, I mean it's just frame of reference. Like none of your friends play. And so when you start playing and you can strum a guitar and sing at the same time Oh yeah. You're Speaker 3 00:13:05 Just in tune. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:13:06 You're just 10 times cooler. Yeah. At that point. Like, that's the only thing I had to hang my hat on. It's like all my friends were better at me at the sports, they were all taller than me. They were better looking than me. And I was like, but I can, but Speaker 3 00:13:15 None of our friends were better at it than this <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:13:17 So it's kinda like, okay, well I'm just gonna rock out of this cuz this is my only way that girls will like me. So, but uh, no it was, it's just funny those days was, it was, it was weird, but it was just kind of how you, I I caught the bug. Like he said, it was just kind of going in and like, and I started every day just like, oh, I'm gonna just keep posting stuff if Yeah. Speaker 3 00:13:35 It's like, it's kind of weird cuz it's like it's, I hate to call it like an ego stroke, but like, once you first like taste that when people were like commenting back and being like, oh my gosh, y'all, you all are really good. Yeah. You're you're really good. You should keep doing this. You know, you get hooked and being like, okay, like I could do this. You know? And I never thought that I would do it for a living when I was 15, but I was just like, okay, I'm gonna keep uploading covers on the internet, you know, <laugh> Yeah. Speaker 1 00:13:59 The confidence to grow like that when you got people commenting and then with the way the internet works and Facebook and stuff, you got people all over, like all over the place. I know initially it started out with Alabama and then expanded, but then you got people now in other countries like all over the place that, that comment on stuff and yeah. Know, know who you guys are, know what you're doing and know your songs are how you sing Speaker 2 00:14:17 Back, be in tuned Speaker 3 00:14:19 All the streaming analytics and stuff too. It's just like, you can, I can pull it up on my phone and you can see like what country, like what city, what, where, what's Speaker 4 00:14:27 Been the weirdest one so far for y'all. The, I remember you're Speaker 1 00:14:30 Just like, what Speaker 2 00:14:31 The hell? Well, you know how Spotify does, I'll pull, see we got in your review thing, like everyone Yeah, yeah. I remember it was like say it's like you made 200% growth in like the Netherlands or like Norway or something like that. And I was like, what? Speaker 3 00:14:46 Like see, see look, I'm, they're getting away Speaker 4 00:14:47 From the black metal. I'm, I'm Speaker 3 00:14:49 Pulling up, I'm pulling up the Spotify like analytics thing right here. And it says like, our top countries are obviously the United States, but then number two is Canada, number three is Australia. Obviously the numbers start tapering down, but it's like drastically <laugh>. Yeah. But it's still really cool that like people, I mean 1.2 or you know, 1200 people care in Norway. So it's like, oh, like, hey man, I, I always like to think that it's probably just like military station people over there. Yeah. We're probably spending our stuff, but, Speaker 1 00:15:20 But, but, but to think back where you're play, where you're playing those shows when you got like 20 people coming in now you got 1200 in freaking Norway. I mean we Speaker 3 00:15:27 Got one in Lichtenstein, so we're pretty much Speaker 1 00:15:29 We're Speaker 3 00:15:30 We're there. I mean we made it. That's that's a Speaker 2 00:15:32 Good, that reminds me Speaker 3 00:15:34 Lichtenstein <laugh>. That's Speaker 1 00:15:36 Great. Speaker 3 00:15:36 But it's also another funny thing is like obviously the bigger cities that on the analytics it says like, you know, there's the Dallas's and Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, Charlotte, some of your like most massive markets, it's, it doesn't translate a lot of the times. Yeah. Like it's like getting people to the shows I think too cuz it's just like so much going on in those areas. Yeah. It's funny to like pull up in, in Dallas, you know, and sometimes in, which is funny, we've never headlined a show in Dallas, but we've played in Fort Worth, which is, it's still one of our biggest markets, but it's just funny to see like your heat map and then which ones translate and like, which ones don't. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a cool, this is probably over the listener's head a little bit, but we are just like <laugh>. No, no, no. Speaker 1 00:16:15 And that, that's good cause Cause what's cool about having you two in here, you guys have been doing this for a while. You've done, you still do the songwriter thing and you're very hands on with everything, right? Yeah. Like in terms like literally doing it, like doing everything really yourself, like really having it, doing it your way, which is really cool. But also going out and playing different shows in different markets. You're talking about Charlotte, that was my first time in Charlotte, North Carolina this weekend. That place is awesome. Like coyote shows, like, Speaker 3 00:16:39 It's like a mini Billy Bobs. Speaker 1 00:16:41 When did you guys first go out there and play? Speaker 2 00:16:43 Golly, it was like three years ago. Yeah, we've been there at least three times. Speaker 3 00:16:47 I think maybe even four. Like Yeah, Speaker 2 00:16:50 I mean it was early Speaker 3 00:16:51 On the first time we went there. I'll tell you this, the first time we ever went there about 200 people came, which at the time we were just like freaking out. Yeah. Because obviously we're just from South Alabama and the fact that we can go places that are a couple states away now e even to this day, like still it's just like blows my mind, it's over my head. Um, I'm really thankful for that. But it, but to see it grow from that into like, I think it was 25 4 or 500 tickets roughly this time and Yeah, it's just like, okay, yeah. Speaker 2 00:17:20 Grew, you know, 10 times what the first time it, you know, in four and it's just like, it speaks to just coming back to those places and just, you know, just keep on keeping on. Like there's no like, I mean especially in the model we're in, like we don't have radio so we're independent band and like it's all word of mouth, it's all social media driven. It's all just, if someone caught onto it and they happen to like it. And it's just cool to like see those places. And it's weird how like Charlotte, North Carolina is like one of our best markets and like arguably Speaker 3 00:17:50 Better than our even hometown. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:17:51 I mean, and you know, so it's Speaker 3 00:17:52 More people come see us there. Speaker 2 00:17:53 It is weird how, like you said, like so many people can be in tune with what you're doing with social media now. Yeah. And it's not just, you know what Yeah. Like you're immediate surroundings. It's like, I don't even know these people, but these people know everything about my life. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:18:08 It's, it's great that like these phones sitting in front of our face that we stare at all day has literally broken the walls down between like us and the fan and just like the normal person that doesn't necessarily listen to radio all the time. Yeah. Or does, you know, it's like they have a way to get to you by, by finding it, you know, and you Speaker 1 00:18:26 Built those diehards. You don't have like, just, just a ton of like casual fans. You've got Die Hearts people. Well that's, that's another beautiful You Got Ride or dies. That's another Speaker 3 00:18:34 Beautiful thing about it because like, because we're not on radio, I think if you find our music and you decide that you like it, you know, you're gonna delve into it more than just, oh, I'm gonna bump this one song. You know, you're gonna go and people are listening all the way through your catalog. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:49 It's, it's a cool thing cuz like, I mean, I mean speaking of like, I mean we're, we're all in the, in the business, but we're also music consumers. But I've always liked the fact that it's like putting an artist on to like my friends who haven't heard of this guy. Speaker 3 00:19:04 Yeah. Like, Hey, you guys should listen to this Speaker 2 00:19:06 Dude. Yeah. Actually I was gonna say this, going back to the first show that Charlie played. So Charlie opened up the show with like, I am by Blackberry Smoke <laugh>. And I didn't, I didn't know the song, I didn't know the band. I was clueless. And Charlie starts this song and I was like, this is Charlie guy can freaking write some songs. Speaker 3 00:19:23 <laugh>. I'll Speaker 2 00:19:23 Tell you what I was like, dude, this guy's got jammed. Thanks Speaker 3 00:19:26 Charlie Starr. Yeah, yeah. <laugh>. And Speaker 2 00:19:28 So, and and, but it was kind of fun. So it's like indirectly that's how I got put on the Blackberry Smoke and and then they You're welcome. Yeah. And they and they became and still are one of my favorite bands. Yeah. And like I remember gonna to New Orleans and seeing them and I was the only person like under 35 there, you know, and I was like a 19 year old kid with all these bikers and Yeah, Speaker 3 00:19:46 Those dudes Speaker 2 00:19:47 Rock man. Yeah. But it is just cool to see like, you know how I, like I said, I, I like the fact that you can be like, yo, Matt, have you heard of this guy? He is like, no, I haven't. Oh let me put you on this guy. Yeah. And then, so that person who comes to our show likes it. They bring a friend and their friends bring a friend and then it just, it's Speaker 3 00:20:03 Just that becomes a trend like with our fans, you know? Yeah. We have our own fam our fan group called The Vines. And on Facebook it's a, it's a private group, but if you look it up, it's called The Vines. It's that it's all this exclusivity and all these videos and pictures from shows and all these fans getting along and talking about it and stuff like that. But those guys are like our backbone, you know, they, they take what we do and they say, Hey, and they go vomited out to the world and say, Hey, you guys need to look at these guys. Yeah. It's Speaker 2 00:20:31 Like an army of like 5,000 people. And it's like, it's funny cause it's like a, like the town my dad's from is like the population of like that. Yeah. And so it's just kind of like, it's weird to see we have this small little town that is ride or die. Oh yeah. Yeah. And they, and, and you know, we get in there and, and we, we try to find creative ways to reach out to them and make them feel special because they are those people. Like we give 'em, you know, exclusive content or we say, Hey, we're, we're gonna put these hoodies online and we wanted to give y'all the opportunity to buy 'em first before we tell everybody else Speaker 3 00:21:03 Y'all pick the color of the new next Speaker 2 00:21:05 T-shirt. That's, so it's cool. And it then it makes this culture where it's like, it's cool to be a part of it and Charlie and I are in there, we're talking to these people. Speaker 3 00:21:12 Oh yeah. Like our real Facebooks are in there. Right. So it's, sorry, we can't accept everyone's fend requests by the way. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:21:17 <laugh>. But it's, uh, we try. But, but yeah, it is cool and I think like the path we're on, it's, it takes a little longer to get there and I don't really know what getting there means cuz we're out there having fun. Yeah. We have eight, you know, eight guys in a van. We're all buddies and, and we go out there, we play shows, you know, nights can be like Charlotte where 2000 people are there also nights can be like Myrtle Beach the next night. Yeah. They're, you know, 150, 200 people are there. And, and so it's like, it's kind of these ups and downs, but it's a fun ride because Oh yeah. It makes those ones that when a lot of people are there, it's like, dang dude, these people care and we're doing something. Right. Yeah. And, and it's just cool to see how, you know, people, it's, it's just growing and they think of us like the underdog cuz I Oh yeah. I'd much rather be the underrated band that and overrated. Right. And I, I, I like being the band that people are like, dude, you gotta listen to these guys. Or like, you know, you see tweets, it's like, why is everybody still sleeping on muske eye bloodline? Or like, you Speaker 1 00:22:15 Don't even Speaker 2 00:22:16 Wake up. Speaker 3 00:22:16 I just started listening to them and they're my favorite band now you Yeah. And Speaker 2 00:22:19 So, and and, and it's cool. I, I like I'll, that's really like the, the most like, fulfilling thing for me, uh, doing this. It's just like when someone gets it and they're like, wow. Like I, they feel like they've landed on a pot of gold. Speaker 1 00:22:33 Yeah. And it's a real community thing too, because there's people that'll meet each other like in the v i p thing or they'll meet each other, just be next to each other somewhere at the concert. And then they're friends. They're talking like, there's fans that know who say like, there's a say there's a, like there were fans in North Carolina that were asking me how a fan in Alabama was doing over the weekend. Yeah. Which is crazy. They've, they, they would never know each other. But now they're, there's this community, like this family. Yeah. Do they take Speaker 2 00:22:56 Fishing trips together? They take, they take vacations together. It's weird. And all through just like, they had a, a connection that was just, they like this band, Speaker 3 00:23:04 They pick each other up too when they're down. Like sometimes. Yes. Yeah. Like, I think it was recently a, a girl put put in there that she had like, had a car accident or something and she couldn't make it to one of the shows, but, and we were doing this exclusive tour shirt that was only at shows and there was a girl that I think we were like in Kansas, Manhattan, Manhattan, Kansas or something. And this one girl was like, Hey, like, I saw this girl post this thing. Can y'all sign this shirt? Like, I'm gonna mail it to her. I haven't, I haven't told her yet. You know what I mean? It's just like, stuff like that. It's like, it's really cool. It's like this little family, like it really is like a special, a special thing. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:23:38 I've, I've really enjoyed just like seeing how everyone just gets along in it. So it's cool. Speaker 1 00:23:43 Yeah. Now talking about the songwriting stuff, so you guys, when did you guys first start songwriting? Like when did you guys first start like, going from playing cover shows to like, Hey, I wanna write my own shit. Speaker 3 00:23:53 Well, I mean, I, I, I personally wrote like my first like, you know, whatever you want to call it, song, my first complete song by myself when I was like, probably 17. Speaker 2 00:24:05 Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was about 16, 17, like in that, in that range. Uh, mobile had this festival called Bay Fest and it was just Big three Day festival. They don't have it anymore, but they, they did a scholarship thing for like local upcoming musicians. I remember that. Yeah. You could be a freaking guitar player or a trumpet player, drunk player. It Speaker 3 00:24:27 Was like 10,000 bucks or something, wasn't it? Yeah. Speaker 2 00:24:29 It was like they gave out a thousand dollars to 10 people. Yeah. Okay. They won this thing. And so I was like, it was cool, like, to be a part of that. And like my submission video was just an original song. And so I was kind of like, okay, well these people who are picking this like think, you know, highly enough of me to like, give, give me this scholarship. Speaker 3 00:24:48 Wait, so you won? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Speaker 2 00:24:50 Hell yeah. So nice. So yeah, so like, you know, a thousand dollars, like I, you know, I, Speaker 3 00:24:56 He was ing up 16. I thought I was super rich, but, Speaker 2 00:25:00 But it goes quick. And so, uh, but yeah, so I did that and then went to college, kind of took a break and just like, I remember like not picking up guitar probably honestly for about like two years straight. Really. Like, it made me collected dust in my dorm room, but I was just so like involved with school and, and just Oh, Speaker 3 00:25:18 You just get excited about a new chapter. Sounds Yeah. Sounds like you don't really think about it. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:25:22 And it was weird how, uh, I had a girlfriend my sophomore year and we had a breakup and I remember the next day I wrote a song about, about Bat and then I posted it on Facebook and then it got some reaction and then I went and wrote this other song and the next day and I posted it on Facebook and I woke up the next morning and it had 20,000 shares on Facebook. Jesus. And so I was like, Speaker 3 00:25:51 I remember this. I thought Gary was super f like, I was like, yo, Garys like famous. I famous dude <laugh> Speaker 2 00:25:56 And, and like it was my first touch of like, whoa, like these people Speaker 3 00:26:00 In like semi vial, like yeah, Speaker 2 00:26:02 Oklahoma. Like, like think I'm something or whatever. And like, I remember like, uh, a coup, like I had, I happened, I was in a fraternity and I happened to be wearing like, uh, my fraternity like letter shirt or something in the video. And so then was one of these, uh, guy like, uh, was total frat move. Total frat move. I remember Speaker 3 00:26:22 Remember that thing page. Speaker 2 00:26:25 So they picked it up. Speaker 3 00:26:26 Oh well it was when they were like growing too. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:26:28 Like it wasn't so, and they, you know, then they shared it. And then it was just this thing. I remember vividly calling my mom like, Hey mom, I think I'm dropping out, moving to Nashville <laugh>. And she's like, Speaker 5 00:26:38 Your moms like know you're short, Gary, Speaker 2 00:26:42 Let's finish college. Yeah. She's like, no, let's just finish this and get this degree. And so, but, but that, that's one video, dude. Like that's really when it, and then I just went on this writing spree of writing not really great songs, but it was just, I started really honing in and I was like, dude, I remember one summer I, I wrote a song a day and that was just my thing. Speaker 3 00:27:02 I rem to interrupt you for a second. Yeah. I remember. It's just funny to speak from the other side because how we weren't really close yet. Yeah. But we were like friends on the internet, like and buddies that way. But I remember seeing what he's talking about unfold because I saw the video go viral and then I saw him just, just, I mean, putting up these videos constantly. And I was just like, this dude is like unreal. This is Springsteen just writing these songs. I mean, Speaker 2 00:27:27 And so I I just like, I caught the bu I mean obviously cuz peop now now you have all these people a Speaker 3 00:27:32 Platform. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:27:33 Yeah. And then so people are now sharing and like now every like, pretty much every video post is getting five, 6,000 shares. And so I'm like, oh, the all Speaker 3 00:27:41 You're going out the beast, you know, <laugh>. Yeah. So Speaker 2 00:27:43 I'm just like, I mean, my, my dumb ass wasn't like recording any music at the time, so I didn't make any money from it or whatever. And then, but it, it was funny, but it just kind of struck like, okay, like it kind of valid. Like, this is what I want to do. Like I want a song write and I don't know like how you can, how you can do this besides just move to Nashville. And so write, I knew there was an occupation, uh, that people literally went in every day and wrote. And I was already doing that. I was like, well, it'd be awesome to get paid to do this. Speaker 3 00:28:11 Oh yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:28:12 And, and so about then like my junior year, I, I just started, I was like, you know what, I I'm moving to Nashville. Like, I, I, so I just started saving and I was like, and I got to a point where the day I graduated I was like, all right, I'm gonna do this. And I, I got enough money to get me through a year and if it doesn't pan out, I got a degree, I can move back home. I, I'll do something. But I can say I gave it that good old, you know, honest try <laugh> Speaker 3 00:28:38 The college, try <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:28:40 Yeah. And then that's when Charlie and I really started like, you know, kind of playing shows together and writing together. Cuz Charlie wanted to put out a project and then we started, we started writing and it was cool cuz like the first song we ever wrote together was Jenny. Yeah. And it's, and it's like, it's kind of funny now, like you, we get off stage and play Porting Angel at the end of the show and we've been playing Jenny for so long that people are like, dude we gotta like, we need that song at the end. And so like we'll get off stage and they'll start chanting Jenny Oh yeah. And stuff like that. Just cuz like they know that's how we end our set. Speaker 3 00:29:13 The the true like loyal fans know that like the story too, right. Charlotte, North Carolina knew it, but they needed, knew the way Speaker 2 00:29:20 And so like, it's kind of been a thing. But that was kind of the first time that Charlie and I had written together. Really No Intentions have ever having Speaker 3 00:29:27 And really hung too, like that was really the first time we, because he stayed at my house for a couple days and Yeah. And that was when we started. I literally, I had a gig that was pretty much really, really consistent in Auburn at Sky Bar. Shout out to Sky Bar for paying my bills on through, through, through that time. But, uh, yeah. And so Gary, he was sleeping on my couch and I felt really bad for him now because I didn't know at the time that he was allergic to dogs. And he was like two or three dogs in our house, <laugh> confrontational. So I was just Speaker 2 00:29:54 Like, this dog hair, whatever, just give it to me. Speaker 3 00:29:57 But, but we got up on stage and, and it was just really cool to watch our, our like natural chemistry like unfold and, and you know, going up there and playing Texas Country covers and Third Eye Blind covers and like a lot of the influence you hear in our original songs, you know, it was, was, it's kind of funny cuz that's obviously the covers we grew up listening to and we take a lot of influence from a lot of those songs and, and started creating our own, you Speaker 2 00:30:24 Know. Yeah. I mean as I feel like you have a, you have a phases you go through in music and we kind of went through the exact same phases. So all of our nostalgia songs were really all the same. And then I'd never been on stage with a guy, like I'd always been the harmony guy and then I'd never been a guy, uh, play with a person where I could start singing the melody and he could hit the harmony just as good as, as I could hit it. And so I was like, whoa, this is really cool Now where it's like Speaker 3 00:30:53 Switching off play song. Speaker 2 00:30:54 I'll sing Harmony. He play songs Speaker 3 00:30:55 And we're saving each other's voices in the meantime Speaker 2 00:30:58 Just Speaker 3 00:30:59 Trading off. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:31:00 So, and then, I mean Charlie had been playing like the bar the bar scene. He had a two year head start on me. I'd imagine. But, uh, I mean he, he can attest to, I I didn't do it as long, but going in the bars and traveling by yourself and playing alone, like it sucks. Speaker 3 00:31:16 It sucks. Yeah. It's not fun. Speaker 2 00:31:17 And, and so, and it was just fun to just like, yeah, granted we weren't making any money hardly at all. But it was just like, at least there were someone who like understood what we were both doing. And like, this was, like I said, this was before Musk and I, Bullon was a thing. We were just going and playing as Gary and Charlie just like literally Speaker 3 00:31:35 On flyers as Gary and Charlie. What, Speaker 1 00:31:37 What was, what was that circuit for you guys? So it was Skybar Auburn. Were you going down the brewskies and doing that? Yes. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:31:42 We do Brewskies. That, that was really about, about all I brought to the table and then everything else was, was Charlie. Yeah. We would, Speaker 3 00:31:48 We'd go down to mobile. Like there was two or three places down there, which is fun. I mean where Rent and mobile? Uh, well we, we would play at like, there was a bar called The Bar ironically, but there was a place called The Brickyard. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, Speaker 2 00:32:01 And then Shenanigans. Speaker 3 00:32:02 Yeah. There was another place that one of our friends owned called She Shenanigans and Soul Kitchen. Like we had played that little front room, which is really funny cuz we headlined Soul Kitchen every single year now to end our year. And it's just like this big blowout show that we sell out the back room. And it's just like, it's crazy to think that we could, couldn't even pay people to come see us play, you know, in the Speaker 1 00:32:24 Front room. Speaker 3 00:32:25 Now you're flying out the best. Yeah. I Speaker 2 00:32:26 Mean the first time, I mean that was our Madison Square Garden like soul kitchen back room was like, that's something. Yeah. And so it was like, it was just really cool to kind of see that transpire cuz I, like, I moved to, like I said, I moved to Nashville, uh, I guess June of 15. And then Charlie was living in Auburn and he'd come up here, we'd write with people, like guys like Ray Fulcher, drew Parker, like the, the these guys. Yeah. And, and then we'd go play every weekend. Cause that's how he had already been making money for four years doing it and Right. Speaker 3 00:32:59 I had like these 10 gigs basically. Yeah. That would like keep us afloat, Speaker 2 00:33:03 You know, so, and, and so it kind of like, you know, I came along and then like we made it, we kind of, you know, skied the system and made it look like we were touring a lot. Like, we were like, oh, like, like they're, they're out gigging hard. Speaker 3 00:33:15 We would post these flyers, you know, they had like 20 dates on their people like Oh gosh. Speaker 2 00:33:19 And, and, and so, but what we would do is, I, I remember cuz I was dating a girl who I went to college with and she actually moved to mobile and so it worked out and Charlie is from Mobile, so it worked out perfectly. So how we would do shows is we would leave Nashville on Wednesday and we would play all the way down to Thursday, Speaker 3 00:33:38 Saturday. Speaker 2 00:33:39 And then we'd stay in Mobile for three or four days. He'd go stay at his for Speaker 3 00:33:43 Free Yeah. With our parents. Speaker 2 00:33:45 And I'd saved my parents and then we would mosey on our way play up all the way back up. So it's literally Speaker 1 00:33:50 Play like Montgomery, Birmingham. Yeah. Birmingham. Speaker 3 00:33:52 We'd play like barbecue joints. Speaker 2 00:33:54 Yeah. Tus like Speaker 3 00:33:55 Oxford, Mississippi, I mean Speaker 2 00:33:57 Yeah. Pizza joints and like whatever Speaker 1 00:33:58 Place that y'all always talk about. Speaker 3 00:34:00 Um, oh, oh, he's talking about uh, wild Wing Cafe. Yeah, that was, that was a little further along. Yeah. That, that was a much better gig than we're talking about <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:34:11 This Speaker 2 00:34:11 Was like corner. No, that was Speaker 3 00:34:13 Actually like a pay gig. Speaker 1 00:34:13 So when we were, when we were in Hattiesburg and you, we saw those two guys playing outside and the two dudes playing outside acoustically. Is that what you guys are talking about? Like just playing at a bar like that? Speaker 3 00:34:23 We're talking about showing up in Gary's truck, the single cab Chevy with a PA system in the back that we set up. And we, Speaker 1 00:34:32 We have that PA system I still think Speaker 3 00:34:33 With it's in the storage unit. Yeah. With with no, it's for sale by the way <laugh>. Uh, no, good luck. I'm talking about no monitor, nothing. It was just like, sit close enough to the speaker so you can hear yourself sing, set it up, you know, tip jug a free wings in a, in a beer and you're leaving. I mean <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:34:51 Yeah. And so like, but it, I mean that was just all we, we knew and we made it work and like our living situation was for Nashville was like, golly, unreal. Yeah. It was. So my, our living expenses weren't crazy and so we could survive. I mean, I could literally survive off a thousand dollars a month if I had to. Yeah. Granted there wasn't many months that it was like that, but, Speaker 3 00:35:14 But luckily we were making a little money. Right. We were Speaker 2 00:35:16 Making, we were making enough to get by. And so, so Speaker 1 00:35:19 Did y'all ever have like, working gigs in town that order put the music? No. Damn, that's awesome. Single's awesome. Speaker 2 00:35:25 And we made a point to do that because the thing is, is I feel like what happens when people do that, you have to do that cuz you have to make money to live. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:35:35 And people, I mean we were in a rare situation right. Because we had gigs, you know what I'm saying? Speaker 2 00:35:40 Right. And so the glow up or whatever you want to call it for us was, we had three days, four days in town where we could just focus on Muske on Bloodline. We didn't have to go to Outback Steakhouse and you know, wait Tables Tables, Speaker 3 00:35:54 Yeah. Or, Speaker 2 00:35:54 Or whatever. Or Charlie would be a bouncer or whatever it was. And it was kind of like they Speaker 3 00:35:59 Were lucky that we didn't have to do that. Speaker 2 00:36:00 So we made enough to, to not have to do that. Which, which was, which was a blessing. And uh, but so we gotta focus all of our time on mu and I mean we, Speaker 3 00:36:09 And we lived together. Yeah. By the way, like we, I'm talking about for, for three years Gary and I lived within a wall of each other. Yeah. So we would walk out of the, out of our bedroom every day when we woke up and say, Hey dude, what can we do today to either make money or to do something that will make us money in the future? Yeah. So what, what can we do to make Muske bloodline bigger? Yeah. What can we do and what now we still get to do that. We're already stuck in that mode since, since the day we moved into with each other. Speaker 2 00:36:39 But that's why I think when, you know, you're talking about you're so hands on, it's because that's what, what's the way it's always been? Speaker 3 00:36:43 We had to be Speaker 2 00:36:44 And, and I feel like, I don't know, I just, I'm, I'm one of those guys and I mean it's stubborn and I I know and it's probably, there's, it's probably not the best way of thinking, but I'm just more like, dude, I feel like I can, Charlie and I together can do anything better than than for us Yeah. Than anybody else can. So it's like, let's just cut out the middle man and just do it ourselves. Yeah. And, and that's kind of like, it's not the right way of thinking cuz when now we have a great team like around, especially on the road, but like, just in the beginning doing that, we were like, no, let's just, you know, keep doing it. Like it's Speaker 3 00:37:16 Just, if you want it done, do if you want it done Right. The old saying, yeah, if you want it done right, do it yourself, Speaker 2 00:37:22 <laugh>. And so we did that and then the, the cheat code we had is we were a duo and, and Charlie was, was good at things I wasn't good at and vice versa. So it's like you go rock, be rockstar. This I'll go be rockstar this Speaker 3 00:37:36 And let, look, lo and behold we're working 200% now because we're both doing a hundred percent job. You know what I'm Speaker 2 00:37:42 Saying? <laugh>. And so like, we're both doing a bango job, but we're good at, and so we're working, we, we have twice the manpower of a, a artist who's by himself. So we could knock out things, you know, and then talk about things a little better. Like, let's think through this, there's two brains here. Let's think of the best way to approach this instead of just like going off the dome. And so yeah. But that was like how it was for, for two years before we got a publishing deal. And that was a crazy incident how that happened. And uh, but yeah. And then while that was going on we were just gigging and stuff. Yeah. It was just building, this is all we Speaker 1 00:38:19 Knew. Building the brand. Yeah. And just going out and doing it and Yeah. And you guys got to, got to hit the road. A lot of cool people too. Like you guys have gotten, you talked about the Texas guys, guys like, like Whiskey Myers obviously a good, good buddy Co. So I haven't even met yet. I'm excited to, to meet co and meet his team and stuff, man. And then of course, of course Luke and going out and doing shows, doing shows with him. What was that like going out and doing the opening circuit for, for a lot of people? Because I've only been with you guys now for a lot of the headlining stuff. Yeah, well it's, what was it like going from the bar playing the bars to going out and opening these shows? Well Speaker 3 00:38:49 I think the, I mean obviously, uh, an easy guy to talk about right now is Luke Combs. But it was just funny to that we had befriended him and gone out and, and he is doing a tour and it was so funny because it was right when he actually, he was still on a sprinter. Yeah. He was still on a sprinter at the time. Um, a sprinter that we bought from him after. But, uh, anyways, it was just so funny because we were playing a lot of the same rooms that, or he was playing a lot of the same rooms that we were like playing too, that we didn't ha we weren't worth as many tickets obviously. But he was coming to like Zydeco and Birmingham and like Bourbon Street, you know, Auburn Alabama and you know, a lot of these gigs and he was selling out the, the rooms and we were opening up and it was just, it was just really cool because that's when we really gotta become like buddies and it's just fun to go out with your friends and it's really crazy to see how far he is gone and, you know, everybody is growing up and, and doing their thing. Speaker 3 00:39:49 But it's just really cool. It was fun experience and Speaker 2 00:39:52 You know, it, it was just a, for me it was just the transition of like, not just playing for bodies, you're playing for people who came to listen to music. Speaker 3 00:40:02 It's like meaningful plays as opposed to like just making money. So Speaker 2 00:40:05 Like Charlie and I were confident enough in ourselves, like, if you put us in front of somebody, we'll we'll get the party started. Like Speaker 3 00:40:13 We'll win some fans. Yeah. We're confident in the fans. Speaker 2 00:40:15 Might I win 'em all but you'll win some. And then that was the cool transition. Cause it's also scary too cuz then you, you can't go play these bar gigs anymore. You gotta go play headline real shows Speaker 1 00:40:26 Once you make that show. Right. They ain't going fast on Speaker 3 00:40:29 The Speaker 2 00:40:29 Hardest part. And and the hardest part is is like you actually go into that, you lose significantly amounts of money. Cuz we were just making guaranteed dollars being cover bands in these college bars, which was pretty good pay, right? Yeah. And so it was kind like, okay, well now we gotta go, you know, sell tickets and that's where you make money. And so it was a scary transition that we had to go through and almost had to be convinced to do it. Cause we were like, oh, this is how we eat. Speaker 3 00:40:56 So like yeah, what to touch on what he's talking about even more. It's like, let's just say like, hypothetically you're making a lot of young artists go through this. I think it's, it's kind of important to talk about, but it's like, let's just say you're making $1,500 gig guarantee. All right? So that's what you're making on the gig and you're like, okay, this is a great gig for us. We're playing covers whatever. And then you got this promoter over here and he's saying, okay listen, I can make you double the money, but you're just gonna have to give up this gig over here and risk it all. Because when you're selling tickets, it's, there's no guarantee. It's just like you just walk in the room and you better hope people show up. So that little, that phase right there I think is is the hardest hump to get over. Yeah. As an artist. Because when you go from a soft ticket act to an actual hard ticket act is the, it's the hardest transition you can make as an artist and not many artists can do it. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:41:48 I mean, like you said, it's scary cuz it's like you gotta put fate in the product and you gotta say, okay, like, I'm willing to risk my livelihood over here by giving up these gigs to, for this whole other beast. And granted we did it and it worked and now like, I mean I couldn't imagine going back playing a four hour cover gig somewhere for a bunch of people who didn't care, you know? Yeah. So this is definitely like, spoiled us in that fact. So we're, we're lucky in in that fact. And now we only have to play 90 minutes, which is awesome. <laugh>. So, so, but yeah, it's, it, it's a cool thing. And I mean, we're still getting to go places, you know, we've, we've never been to like y'all, y'all gotta a taste of that when we went to like Oklahoma and Kansas, like never Speaker 1 00:42:30 Dude. Manhattan, Kansas, yeah. Great freaking college town by the way. We're always an country. I had a blast in Manhattan, Kansas. Yeah, that was a good time. And then even like the northeast, like Boston, the fact that people right now towns like Boston, like Speaker 3 00:42:43 Dude, Boston's a big, is a big market for us. Yeah. People, people really care there. New England Speaker 1 00:42:47 People love their country. Speaker 2 00:42:48 It, it's cool. And, you know, a couple of these places we haven't had a lot of, you know, opening opportunities in probably the la the last couple years. We've had a few here and there, but it's mostly just because now we're worth some tickets in my, it's not an astronomical amount, but it's it's enough to be like, okay, we can have a busy enough schedule. We can pay all of our guys. And, and, and we can, we now officially go out on the road and not lose money at this point. And so, which is great. So we kind of took a backseat to opening for people and we're like, well, let's just headline. You know, cuz if that's the, that's the goal Speaker 3 00:43:21 Anyway. That's Speaker 2 00:43:22 The goal anyways. The headline. And if you can put four or 500 people in a venue, then it's kind of like, well, like let's You're doing it. Yeah. Doing that. And so, but it's in some of these markets, especially Boston, like we did that, we did that acoustic tour with KIPP more and his fan base is super rabid and kind of has that, you know, mentality of if you're opening for kipp, that means Kipp really likes you and we really like you now. So like we've seen a lot of like, growth from a, uh, you know, scenario like that. Especially cuz it was acoustic tour and we're cheating cuz we're a duo. We can sing harmony and Yeah. Speaker 1 00:43:55 What, what's, what was that like doing the acoustic tour thing and what's Kipp Moore like going out in the road? Well Speaker 3 00:43:59 First of all, he spoiled the hell out of us. Yeah. And it speaks, I hate Kip cause that it speaks a lot to his character because a guy like him can definitely understand like what it is, what it, what it is to go out with a, on a tour like that. And he let us, so he let us ride the bus. And so we literally got to, I mean, we were on his crew bus bunked up with all those guys. All those guys are incredible. They, they treated us like family. I mean yeah. They fed us four times a day. Yeah. I mean, I'm talking about we didn't, we literally didn't have to lift a finger except to play. Yeah. And those guys are literally some of the best dudes that we've ever met. And Kip, thanks for having us. Um, yeah, we learned a lot. Kip KIPP's a really talented guy. He's been doing it for a long time. Yeah. And just to be able to tour with a guy that you were like singing, you're literally covering this dude's songs when, when you first started out playing, it's pretty cool man. Like yeah. To be able to like befriend some of your heroes is, is a really strange thing. Like, it's strange in the fact that like, it makes your heroes like human in a way. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's this weird, I can't even explain it. Speaker 1 00:45:05 What's the, is there, is there a certain person that that really happened to you? Like where you were, where you meet him and you're like, oh shit, like I just met so-and-so, they're super cool Speaker 3 00:45:14 Or I mean, I think one that, that for for, I mean Kipp was definitely one of those guys. Another one for me was even a smaller artist from Alabama, his name's Adam Hood. But he was one of my like huge influences when I first started playing because he was big time in Auburn and I was like, and he's a big songwriter in town and he's got a lot, he's had a few pretty successful cuts. But just meeting a guy like that and now writing songs with him. Speaker 1 00:45:37 Yeah. Now he's one of your co I'm Speaker 3 00:45:39 Sitting across, yeah. I'm sitting across the table from him like fangirling and he doesn't even realize it, you know, so I'm sit even now, like I, I literally love this dude. He's one of the best guys in the business and it's just fun to be able to sit down with people that were your heroes and now they're your peers. And it's a really scary, like Yeah, Speaker 2 00:45:55 It's, it's weird dynamic cuz like, I mean even with like with with like Luke Combs, like he's a buddy first. And like, it's kind of awesome cuz we've never even sat down to write with Luke or anything. We've always just been buddies, Speaker 1 00:46:08 Friends. It's always just been a hang. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 00:46:10 And because he's such a big act now, like, it's kind of one of those things, it's like, man, I, I like, we don't have a lot of friends in this industry. You have a lot of people that are, are your, your peers and that you work with, but you never know people's angles of why they want to hang out with you and stuff like that. So you need those core group of guys that's like, despite forget music, like forget this industry, whatever we, you just need friends. And that, and in that time we were coming up, we were just friends with Luke. He was a, he was a fan of what we did and he was gracious enough to have us out. Yeah. And, and I mean, and we really like in the beginning owed a lot of our success to that because he was giving us fans to play to and brand association Luke Combs fans. Speaker 3 00:46:54 Yeah. I mean he gave, he gave us a home in the Carolinas in the beginning, you know, like we didn't look, there was people that would show up and be like, Hey man, what? Like, we heard of y'all through Luke, you know, and especially in the Carolinas. Yeah. And it was just like really cool and so really thankful Speaker 2 00:47:07 For that. It's a, it's a cool, it's a cool thing. I I've never really had it. I don't know cuz like we were, we were in the trenches with Luke too when he was playing to 300 people. So I still see him as Luke, but like when we went and played Virginia Beach with him and 60,000 people were there. Yeah. That Speaker 1 00:47:22 Was T-Bones first with that spark threw throw off. That was his tryout to be your sound guy. It Speaker 3 00:47:30 Was so guy. Just to touch on that, it was funny because I was kind of like in charge of hiring a, a sound guy. And I got on this the Young Entertainment professionals page in Nashville, which is a pretty big, big page. But I just made a little ad on there and then like didn't say the act. I was just like, Hey, national Touring Act play over a hundred shows a year. Um, need a sound guy, let me know. And like, I had, I mean I had 50 submissions and I had talked to three or four people and then Tyler t-Bone, Boudreaux our, our our new sound guy at the time. But I I, he hit me up and was just like this, I didn't Speaker 4 00:48:04 Even hit you up. It was Ethan who lives with Matt, Ethan Speaker 1 00:48:07 Saw the post tag Tyler. Speaker 3 00:48:09 Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's funny how this happens because I get on a phone call with, with Tyler and it's just like this little, little sweet Boudreaux, like, honestly sounded a little timid just, he was just like, yeah dude, I'm down. Like I can do it. And I said, all right, we need this. You, I was walking Speaker 4 00:48:23 Across the parking lot, I was trying to catch my breath <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:48:26 I was like, I was like, Hey man, we're gonna need, you know, x, y, and Z out of you. I wanna make sure you can do these three things. And uh, you know, we've got two shows this weekend, one's in Lynchburg and one's in Virginia Beach. And he's like, all right, cool. And then he's like, I think I can handle it. Like, I mean, I was like, as long as you can pretty much work your way around any console, just Speaker 4 00:48:44 Saying like, you know, the one in Virginia Beach, like, you know, the house guy might run it like, you know, that's what, you know, just if you can like help us out that day, you know what it is, what it is. And like, even like before he is like, Hey man, like if the house guy wants to run it, like, you know, like, let him do it. And I was like, nah man, I'm on this thing. Like <laugh> Yeah. I got this. It was Speaker 1 00:49:01 Funny. Well, we Speaker 3 00:49:02 Touring with Luke, we were opening for Luke Holmes, but touring with him, I, we had known the sound guy really well and so I didn't, I didn't even know where we were walking into. I didn't know there was gonna be 60,000 people there. Yeah. But it was Tyler's second show ever. And, uh, we gave him the, the front of house reigns of our show and uh, he killed it. Yeah. I mean it's just, it's just funny how people like that, like, walk into your, your camp and, and you know, the good Lord puts people like that in your, in your camp. Like, and, and after Tyler, then Matt comes to and comes in, Speaker 1 00:49:33 Y'all got me off Broadway, which thank you for that. I was almost not gonna be able to go because I was afraid I was gonna lose my job at Whiskey Row. And then sure enough, I get brought on by you guys and like, fuck, I quit. I do <laugh>, I quit. Speaker 4 00:49:44 I mean, I was like, Matt, whiskey row doesn't matter at this point. Like Yeah, Speaker 1 00:49:48 Yeah, Speaker 3 00:49:49 Yeah. Well that's cool man. We're really thankful for you guys and yeah, it's Speaker 2 00:49:52 Been a godsend for real. Speaker 3 00:49:53 It's, it's fun to have y'all out, man. Um, I mean Speaker 2 00:49:55 We were talking about it this weekend, just like how good of a hang the group is. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:49:59 It's just the camp, it's just a good family vibe and Speaker 2 00:50:02 It's like, bro, I mean, we got done at, like I was talking about, we got done at Myrtle Beach other night and we got off stage at eight 15 and we were on the road by like 8 55 and we have a lot of stuff to pack up. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:50:13 Lots of stuff. And, Speaker 2 00:50:14 And it's just cool. It just speaks to, you know, having good people Speaker 3 00:50:17 Around you, the work, work ethic, good people that are humble, hungry, Speaker 2 00:50:21 You know, Wes and Justin and like everybody, it's just, it's just really cool to not have the guys that are out, you know, chasing girls. Yeah. Or it's, you know, you gotta worry about 'em, like being too drunk to whatever. It's just like we've never had that problem and it's, it's, it's something that we've never experienced, which I'm really blessed we haven't. And now it's just kind of, and we've gotten all of our partying out of the way. Speaker 1 00:50:41 Yeah. Y'all, y'all, yeah. That's, people always ask, well, what's it like? Do you guys party? Like what, what like how crazy is it on the road? And I'm like, honestly, like we go in, it's very business oriented. We're in the town, we, we get, we get in, we Speaker 3 00:50:53 Do things, they bust ass. Speaker 1 00:50:54 Yeah. And then move on to the next place. You know, the green room Speaker 4 00:50:57 Is literally eight guys sitting in there staring at their phones. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:51:00 We have this like staring at their phones. We just like send each other funny memes. It's pretty much it. Oh, meme sitting Speaker 4 00:51:05 In a circle, just sending memes. Speaker 3 00:51:07 Yeah. Sitting next to each other. Con it's, Speaker 2 00:51:09 But yeah, I mean it's, I I wouldn't want it any other way because it also helps with, when we get back in town, it's like, yo, we got back in town yesterday, three hours later, y'all run to a rider's round. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:51:22 We and Weston are playing. Speaker 2 00:51:23 Right. And so, and it's just like, and it's nice to have, you know, six hours of sleep and being Speaker 3 00:51:28 Sober, man, we, we've Speaker 1 00:51:29 Oh yeah. Speaker 3 00:51:29 We've dranken uh, enough liquor to kill us in our life. Yeah. So, I mean, we don't have to do anymore, which Speaker 1 00:51:36 Congratulations on the sobriety stuff. Seriously. Yeah. Like I know how hard it is because I was like, like doing, you see, like when I was doing the radio stuff, I was first getting into sobriety and I had to turned out red solo cups of whiskey from Toby Keith backstage <laugh>, which is, which the 20 year old kid in, in, in Homedale New Jersey. That's hard to do is to say no to something like that. So this industry, it's hard not to be drinking and be doing all the partying thing. There's lots to get caught up in. So seriously having Speaker 3 00:52:00 That welcome, I think there's like a kind of a stigma like that you almost have to, and it's like, man, I was like, we're, first of all, we're running a business. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? As much as it looks like it's just a, you're a bunch of dudes like partying and having a good time. It's like, first of all, this, none of this can happen if we don't run this business correctly. Yeah. So that's really our main priority and we got our partying done in college, man. And yeah. I mean, yeah. It's, it's, it's more of a blessing now. I, I feel like just to be able to go out, come back and feel great, have a good time and Yeah. Push this thing along, man. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:52:32 I mean, I'm not hurting coming into a, you know, getting up at seven o'clock in on, you know, the other side of town to, to get here to do a podcast. Yeah. This is, I mean, granted, I wanted to do this, this was fun, but it's like, it would not be fun if I was hurting from the weekend. Oh, Speaker 1 00:52:46 If you were, Speaker 4 00:52:47 The only thing we were ever really hurting from is the, uh, 2:00 AM Waffle House. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:52:51 That's true. That's a whole nother herd. That's that's a mental hangover. <laugh>. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:52:55 Dude. And yeah, like, Speaker 2 00:52:56 What am I doing with my wife Speaker 3 00:52:58 <laugh> that Waffle House hangover, you're just like, dude, it just Speaker 1 00:53:01 Waffles or those 3:00 AM loves runs where you pop in just Yeah. Peach a pizza. That pilot was so freaking good. Y'all got me turned on. I was, I was a real pizza stop when I first moved down here. Y'all all got me turned onto the gas station Speaker 4 00:53:13 Singles Speaker 1 00:53:14 Pilot Pizza's Freaking delicious. And all that stuff's really good. All the freaking snacks staring at granola for 30 minutes when we get to a stop. Speaker 3 00:53:21 I mean, that's just, that's just a piss off. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:53:24 Yeah. No, absolutely. So now looking forward to 2020, it's crazy to think the 20 nineteens already already gone through and everything. So, so 20 in 2019 for you guys, what was the whole year like? Because I've only been with you all since July. Boudreau got with you in May. What was the whole year kind of like for you guys? Speaker 3 00:53:40 Sum it up. Well, we, we did the Kip tour early in the year, and so that was like the first quarter of the year. We were pretty consumed with that. And uh, really just cutting a bunch of new music. Yeah. Like the first part of the year, it Speaker 2 00:53:51 Was the Kip tour was like a nice break, honestly, because it was, dude, we were getting 10 hours of sleep a day. We were getting Speaker 3 00:53:59 Five. No, I mean it was cut, it Speaker 1 00:54:01 Was a sleep on the road. Speaker 3 00:54:02 It was the most cush tour, Speaker 2 00:54:04 The only place to do for that tour. I had to, we had to be at soundcheck at three, took five minutes and then we played eight o'clock every night. So it was just like, and then you whatev, I don't care, whatever you do the rest of Speaker 3 00:54:14 The, we were in all the cool cities and I mean, we just went and explored Yeah. Ate good food, went to the gym. I mean, that's it. Yeah. It was Speaker 2 00:54:20 Just kinda like, it was wild. But I would say, I mean we did that and then the rest of the year was just headline. Like that's, we kinda hang our Speaker 1 00:54:28 Hat and lot and lots of music coming out. Y'all put out, y'all put out quite a bit this year. Yeah. And Speaker 2 00:54:32 I, I was gonna touch on that. We, so we were in a publishing deal and we ended up getting out of it and we kind of got on this mission. We were like, Hey, like we got a lot of songs. Like, let's just take a little break from songwriting and let's start cutting music. Speaker 3 00:54:47 I, I think it was e even to to say like, in a way we almost had to reprioritize like what we were doing because we were doing nothing but writing songs and playing shows and without putting music out, it's, you're just stalling your career. I mean, people can only listen to the same songs so long, especially when you only have 10 out. Yeah. In the beginning. Yeah. So we reprioritized Yeah. And started cutting more music. Right. Speaker 2 00:55:13 So like at the start of the year we put out Enemy and then we were like, every six weeks we put out a new song with a music video, which, Speaker 1 00:55:19 Which real quick, that song, it's, that's such a deep heavy song. I'm sure it comes from a personal place for both of you guys. Sure. I understand. To hear the crowds sing that back almost every night, if not every night. That's gotta be freaking awesome. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:55:31 Yeah. It's really special man, dude. I Speaker 2 00:55:32 Mean, we're partial, we're songwriters. Yeah. You know, like, like that's first and foremost. Like we love songs with meat on the bones and like has a deeper meaning than just like surface level stuff. I mean, not, there's obviously we have some fun songs, but a lot of our songs like even like the high intense ones, like there's, there's kind of depth to 'em. It's like Speaker 1 00:55:53 Moving on. There's a lot of depth to that one, Speaker 2 00:55:55 You know what I'm saying? And that, and that's kind of a party anthem. Like, or not, not a party, but it's got so much energy and people are fist pumping and get excited and it's literally a song about just like getting over like somebody, or the feeling of once you've were like, oh wow, I'm, I'm over them now. Like, I don't think about 'em. And yeah. So it's just cool cuz like we challenge ourselves every day to write really what's what we are going through and like what, like that's, we were talking about this touched on this in Charlotte at our v i p and it's like, you know, here of lately like when we write songs, like we write more, so instead of like, what's what's going on in the room at the time, it's like, nah. Like, like we're in love. We've been writing a a lot of love songs and, and and that kind of deal and that's like, it's hard to put yourself in the space of, you know, a sad, depressing song when you're not sad, when you're not Speaker 3 00:56:42 Feeling that depressed moment. Speaker 2 00:56:43 Yeah. You know? And so, but yeah, I mean this year it was really cool. We put out a lot of different style songs Speaker 1 00:56:49 Like Yeah, really like Between To Go From Enemy and then what was the next one? Well, Speaker 2 00:56:53 We did Montgomery Enemy, then we did like, I think Missed That Truck Put Me in my place, damned a Dirt Road Mine of his Own Oh Girl from Mississippi was somewhere in there. And then we put out, we just put out the acoustic ep and so I was Speaker 3 00:57:11 About to look it up. I'm surprised he remembered all that. Yeah. <laugh> because I, I definitely couldn't. Speaker 2 00:57:15 Yeah. And so, but it, but so it was crazy and we were just like, dude, let's just take a year and listen to this and see what happens. And it was a lot of, uh, lot of different, like I said, different style of songs and stuff and, but it was just cool to like just feed, just feed a fan base and really get like, just keep, keep yourself like in everybody's like frame of reference. Like just by putting out music all the time. And we gotta see, you know, we, I mean for better or for worse, I, I'm, I look at numbers and analytics, I think most people at Fought do that, especially artists. And cuz you're seeing stuff grow, you wanna keep seeing it grow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh, and God, like, just the numbers on everything just doubled. Doubled. And then people are reverting back to old songs they haven't heard because one of someone's friend shared Girl from Mississippi and then they hear that song like, oh I like this. I never heard of this band. Then I go back, wow, this PORs swing Angel song's really incredible. Like, I like, like, and so it's just weird how that like works. And so that's the kind of mindset we had and now we are just on that train now it's all about just put, it's almost the race of content. It's just who's putting out the most music that's who's gonna win. And Speaker 1 00:58:28 Yeah, it's almost like, like, like remember when SoundCloud rappers, I don't know if it's still a big thing or not. Yeah. But when people were just putting out music, well Speaker 3 00:58:34 Everybody's adapted that now to like real all situation. Speaker 2 00:58:38 Yeah. And so like right now we, we have a blessing of dude, if we wanna put out a song tomorrow, we can do that. Speaker 3 00:58:46 We can do whatever we want. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:58:47 <laugh> and it's, and it's, Speaker 3 00:58:48 It doesn't the best fun Speaker 1 00:58:49 And it's Red Clay country, which we'll touch on in a little bit. Speaker 2 00:58:52 Yeah, yeah. But it's, it is just kind of like, now we can just do whatever. So there's no wrong answer. And putting out music is never wrong. No. Speaker 3 00:59:00 Never. Speaker 2 00:59:01 No. And, and so it's just like, and I think a lot of times, if any of you upcoming artists or songwriters who are aspiring artists, you know, wanna do something, don't second guess yourself. Just put out the damn song and, and really just like, you can talk yourself out of anything in this town cuz there's someone telling you this guy's like, like, oh, I don't think it's the right one. Or like, oh, it's just not quite good enough. Speaker 3 00:59:24 It's not what y'all need at the moment, you Speaker 2 00:59:26 Know? Yeah. And, and so we just said, you know what, we're just gonna do whatever we want for better or for worse. And it, and it worked out for us. Yeah. Like, you know, a huge major record deal didn't come out of it and we didn't have a song that was, you know, the next old town road. But it was kind of like, but it worked in, in our own way. Speaker 3 00:59:43 It's working, Speaker 2 00:59:44 You know? Yeah. It's controllable growth and it's really cool to see like that happen and we got, I mean 2020 is gonna be insane. Massive. Like, we're gonna put out a lot, a lot of music, a Speaker 1 00:59:56 Lot of shows too. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:59:57 And, and, and we already got, Speaker 3 00:59:58 The spring tour is already already Speaker 1 01:00:00 Announced and everything. Lots of, lots of markets and literally all over the place. Like not just in the southeast anymore, like literally. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:00:07 All, all over the place from California up to, to all the northeast to Mexico Speaker 3 01:00:12 And Mexico. Speaker 1 01:00:12 Yeah. Y'all get to go out and hang out in Mexico. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:00:15 So it's just like, I mean, it's cool man. Like, like I said, I, there there's nothing I love more than like just going out to a new place you haven't been and just seeing what hard work and social media has done and there's no frame of reference of how many people are gonna be here. Oh God. Like if, is it gonna be, because Speaker 3 01:00:32 If we don't sell more than last time Speaker 2 01:00:33 Yeah, bro. Because like, there's no success or failure when you're showing up to a place for the first time. It's just like, okay, this is what it is and this is what we have to build upon. Yeah. And it's, it's a really cool feeling when you're like, we did Manhattan, Kansas, or Speaker 1 01:00:45 Omaha, that whole run was just freaking Yeah. It's Speaker 2 01:00:48 All new markets and you're like, dang dude, like 500 people in Omaha. Speaker 3 01:00:51 We gotta come back now. Speaker 2 01:00:52 Manhattan, Kansas, 600 and Stillwater, Oklahoma, this is like, it's, you say you take a step back and like, yeah, okay, we're not, you know, selling out these rooms, but this is our first, first try at it. And there's, and it's working Speaker 1 01:01:04 And there's people saying, we've been waiting for y'all to come here. We've been waiting. You guys finally made it out here. We've been waiting a couple Speaker 3 01:01:10 Years. I think too, like something to add that, that I'm really proud of, of us is just like, I mean everybody says that Nashville was a five to 10 year town, you know, and, and, and we're sitting here in our fourth year and we have a business and we have fans and we have great friends and we've got a family on the road and like, there's nothing more, there's nothing more valuable than that to me. There's nothing more important. There's nothing more, more rewarding than just being able to say what we want to say, touch people's hearts and do this for a living. Like this is the the greatest job on the planet. Yeah. And it is just really cool that you guys give us a, you know, a an opportunity every day to just walk out of our house and, and create some cool music for you guys that we love to do. And yeah. Speaker 1 01:01:58 And you talk about cool music a term that's been coined pretty recently. Red Clay Country. Yeah. Where did that come from and what's and what's the, what's like the, the meeting behind that? Speaker 3 01:02:08 So it was really funny cuz we're, we're from Alabama and there's always this, we have like red Clay, like clay is the, is the thing there. Yeah. And uh, and um, but uh, so we grew up loving Texas country and so everyone calls that the red dirt circuit, like the red dirt music or whatever you wanna call it. And so we love, we love Texas country and we're not from Texas, but, so we wanted to coin our own term that was Red Clay Country. And we thought it was like a cool hybrid of like, Hey, we're not claiming Nashville, we're not claiming Texas. We're, I mean we're from Mobile Alabama, we're damn proud of it. And here's a, here's a cool term that kind of like coincides with both worlds, you know? And yeah, Speaker 2 01:02:53 I mean we've been fortunate enough to like speaking on like the red dirt circuit. Like a lot of bands in Nashville don't tour Speaker 1 01:03:02 That. Oh yeah. There's at all, there's Nashville's almost a dirty term out in Texas. Speaker 2 01:03:06 Right. And so the fact that I think is kind of like how our come up has been is the fact that we've, you know, we we're not on major r uh, you know, we're not on major radio radio, we don't have a major record deal and we're going into these small Texas college towns and whatever. And it's, and it's association. Like we've been out there with Cody Johnson, we've been out there with Kozel and, and Parker and Mac McCallum and, and and these guys. And so it's like you get to play in front of these people and these people have never heard of you. And so it's just kind of cool that these guys have kind of adopted us and yet those guys over there, we've kind of adopted them in some ways because, you know, we brought co out to the southeast and he wanted to break Texas and now, and Speaker 1 01:03:50 Now he's starting to sell out shows all across the southeast. And then you're putting people in Billy Bob's that are at a good number Speaker 2 01:03:57 And, and it's, and it's cool to just like go to Texas and, and, and being from Alabama, I mean they're really, you know, conscious about what they like out there. Yeah. And, and they'll tell you and it's cool that they're like, Hey, I feel like the mindset for them is like, alright, they're from Alabama, but like, you know, co really likes 'em and, and like we like their music and, and it's just cool to like show up in these little, little dive bars that like, I think of like Cheatham Street and San Marcos, Texas. Like Randy Rogers owns that place and like no one in Nashville would ever play that bar. It's just strictly red dirt country bar. And then you go there and three, 400 people show up and it's like, this is really cool. Yeah. Granted, it's a different world out there. It starts jeans, cowboy hats Speaker 3 01:04:39 And, and it's a long way, Speaker 1 01:04:40 Oh dude. 17 hours and a sprinter back from Houston and that's when my phone was broken. I didn't have, I ended up working cell phone, I was just sitting there. Speaker 2 01:04:48 But we love Texas man. And like, I mean, sometimes Carl and I are like, man, did we just move to the wrong city? Like maybe we should have moved to Austin or and done this. But Speaker 4 01:04:56 Also like where we're from, you know, like we got Whataburger and now we got Bucky's. Like we understand that <laugh>, we understand that if Speaker 3 01:05:02 Anyone understands Texas it's people from Alabama because we have Whataburger and Buck's Speaker 1 01:05:07 And y'all love your football. It makes total sense. Exactly know. Yeah. Speaker 4 01:05:10 Yeah. I would say the only thing that rivals really, uh, Texas football would be Alabama football, you know, Speaker 3 01:05:17 Easy. We're all, we're Speaker 2 01:05:18 All, Hey, I'm talking about high school. I'm talking about high school Speaker 1 01:05:21 <laugh> when I get to to Speaker 3 01:05:22 College, Tyler's just a little butt hurt cuz Alabama lost the Iron Bowl this year. Speaker 1 01:05:25 Year. Well you seen it last night. We had a buddy play around and he's a big LSU guy and he was, he was sticking it to Boudreau a little bit. It's okay. I was sticking to him about the Astros and cheating and stuff, so, you know, but um, but yeah, so, and then even like the on the, on Pandora, I've, I've had people tell me like that you guys pop up on the red dirt playlist out there. Yeah. Which is, which is sick. So that's freaking cool. The fact that there's no, like, no label Speaker 3 01:05:47 Shout out to the Red Dirt country fans. Yeah. Thank you guys for letting us have a a a home in Texas and Oklahoma home. Speaker 1 01:05:53 They buy a shit ton of merch too, so I love them and Texan they do, man. We're all super cool and Speaker 3 01:05:58 They support, they support the young artists. Yeah. The Speaker 2 01:06:00 The Tex the Texans consumer is just, it's a different, it's a different beast out there. They're, Speaker 3 01:06:04 They're hungry for that and, uh, uncommon Speaker 2 01:06:06 Thing man. And it's, and it's really cool to, to, like we've said, just be kind of a, be adopted over there and, and really do something cuz like there's a lot of markets we can play there and it, it helps out with touring and Yeah. And that sort of thing. So, but yeah, we, we love the situation of, you know, being able to tour almost everywhere and at least people are showing up. Speaker 1 01:06:27 Yeah. Now for 2020, what do people have to look forward to now for this year? Speaker 3 01:06:32 I don't know if it's too early to say this, but in, in, uh, I don't really care. So, uh, in January, in January we're, we're going in and cutting a record full link record our first full link. Fuck yeah. Debut record. Speaker 2 01:06:43 You got, you got the, you Speaker 3 01:06:45 Guys just got the exclusive Yeah. Speaker 1 01:06:46 Hey fu Speaker 3 01:06:47 Exclusive announcement on the, in the Round podcast. Speaker 2 01:06:51 But we're doing, uh, we just think it's time and Speaker 3 01:06:54 We're also putting out an EP in January, so they have more to look forward to than just us recording in January. January Speaker 1 01:06:59 Lot. So Watson, Speaker 3 01:07:01 Uh, I think it's just gonna be like the middle sometime. Yeah. Like, it's gonna be in January. I, I can't pinpoint a day for you. So, so just need Speaker 1 01:07:07 To pick a day. So lot so lots of music to where you guys, you guys gonna be in the studio a lot Speaker 3 01:07:12 For two straight weeks? We're gonna be in the Speaker 1 01:07:14 Studio. Wow. Now where do you guys do that? Is that here in town? Do you guys like go away somewhere or where do, where do you guys do that? Speaker 3 01:07:19 Well, ever since the fir the first three songs we ever cut was Ping Angel Shut Your Mouth and Southern Boy Cure and we cut them with our buddy Ryan Humans and in the studio ca called 41 15 where he was in interning at the time. Um, ever since then we've grown a little bit, Ryan's grown a little bit and he's got his own home studio now, which he also just like renovated. It's called The Amber Sound. Okay. And to be honest, man, it is just like our home. It's, it's our, it's our recording home man. We've, we've cut in sound Emporia and we've cut in the, the best studios in Nashville, but we don't feel more comfortable than when we are just cutting with our friends and cutting in a, in a environment that is just home to us. And he'll Speaker 1 01:08:01 Pro, he'll be honest with you. I'm sure like you guys absolutely have connection, which it takes a lot. Like you spend a lot of time in the studio. Speaker 3 01:08:08 We recorded our first ever things like we didn't even have a know we were doing and this guy gave us a place to to record and yeah, it's just, we're really thankful for that. And so yeah man, we, we cut at the Amber Sound. Y'all should go hit him up if y'all wanna re record some upcoming, you know, songs and stuff. This dude's, this dude's great. Speaker 2 01:08:26 Yeah. I mean it's, it's been, it's been cool to just work with him cuz he, we know Ryan on such like a personal level that it, it helps out that he knows how hands on are we are with production and how we want to sound. So he's literally just, he's the ship, he's the vessel and he just lets Charlie and I captain the ship and kind of like say, okay, let's do, you know, do, and it's, I mean it also is good to have a guy like Ryan to bounce ideas off of Yeah. And that sort of thing. But we've just, we've tried doing records and doing songs, our recording songs in every facet possible from like Charlie said, using the nicest studio with Grammy nominated, you know, producers and then using buddies in other bands with, and then this next EP that's coming out is the first one that Charlie and I since our first songs that we were like, just do it ourselves. No, no one knows how these songs need to sound or how we want 'em to sound more than Charlie and I. And so we were like, you know what, that's what we felt most comfortable and that's what we're gonna do. And so it's cool to like actually literally produce your own music that you're putting out, play on your records Speaker 1 01:09:32 That that's, that's unheard of. Speaker 2 01:09:33 Yeah, it is. And that's, and that's how, if you want to know how, why Jason Isabel's record and Stapleton's record sounds different than you know, the other guys you hear on country, it's cuz they're actually playing on their records. Speaker 3 01:09:46 Like that's how you, that's just how, I mean, you know, we could talk about this for hours, but there's, there's, there's a million guys in this town that are incredible studio musicians and those guys are gonna have jobs and then, but it's like, it's like those all those guys are playing on the same songs anyway. So it's like if you, and we still use studio musicians for certain things and it's just like, but you just gotta know where to where you gotta drive the ship and where it's okay to let a guy studio musician play drums or whatever. We obviously can't play drums. Yeah. <laugh>, you know, so it's like, be bad things like this weekend play a little bit things, things like that is, those are, those are the learning curve type of things that you learn how to do. And then, but it's just like we get to quarterback the songs and, and no one's telling us what to do and how to make it sound. And that's really at the bottom line really. That's just what makes it stick out more. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:10:35 And it's, it's music at the purest forum. Like, it's just like you write the music, you play the music, you produce the music, then you go out and play the shows. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:10:42 And it's gotta translate. Well Speaker 3 01:10:44 What's better than that? Right. And Speaker 1 01:10:45 It's, and then the fans getting to hear the song live, what it's gonna sound like, what it sounds like on the record, which Speaker 2 01:10:50 Is Right. And that's, I mean that's a, that's like the, the biggest compliment you could ever give an artist is if they say you sound better live than you do on the record. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:10:58 And you're like, okay, awesome. Speaker 2 01:10:59 And you're like, that's that's really cool that you know that you've said that. And, and, but no, it's, it's awesome. We're gonna do this whole, it's gonna be an album. It's not just like, a lot of times an album I feel like in Nashville is like, all right, here's the best 12 songs that we could bring to this artist or the, the artist who wrote 'em. It's like, these are the collective of the 12 best. Let's just put 'em out together in a package. Call it an album. But this is literally gonna be like a journey. Like there's gonna be songs that if you were just putting out singles that you wouldn't put out because they're album songs and there's a difference between that. And I love listening to albums and Oh Speaker 1 01:11:36 Yeah. We do a lot of that. The band, when we start started at song one, finish at song 12. Speaker 2 01:11:40 Right. And, and, and most of my favorite songs on albums are the songs that don't get the deep, the deep Speaker 3 01:11:46 Cuts, the deep Speaker 2 01:11:47 Spotlight. Speaker 3 01:11:47 And it's important to have those songs too. Those Speaker 4 01:11:49 Are the songs for people like us, you know? Speaker 3 01:11:52 Yeah. Dude. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because those, those people that are hungry, like we touched on earlier, the people that are hungry for the new thing or the thing that's not as popular as the next thing. That's what we want. That's the type of consumers we are, you know? Speaker 2 01:12:03 Yeah. And it's, and it's, and it's cool cuz like those are the songs I think that like really affect people and that I feel like as songwriters we should be called, like our goal is to affect people and, and in a positive way and make people feel something. And and I've really been burdened with that here of late just like how you write. It's like, man, I want to convey something that the listener literally could say, this guy and Charlie Gary Speaker 3 01:12:32 Gets exactly what I'm talking about Speaker 2 01:12:33 And he wrote this for me and this and I can adapt this song. And songs are a timestamp in time. Like, you hear a song at a certain moment when you need it. And it takes me right back to that. Speaker 3 01:12:45 It's, I mean it's therapeutic too for people. Man. There's like, there music is truly like medicine for people. Yeah. I mean there's people that come up to us at shows and, and crying and, and that we, you know, in our arms and they'll say, this song changed my life or this song helped. I I I didn't commit suicide because I heard this song. Yeah. That is the reason why we do this. Yeah. And if we can keep conveying that message, then best we can. That's, that's our purpose in making this music stuff and going out on the road and doing all this stuff. Speaker 2 01:13:18 Yeah. And so I I'm really excited about it cuz like I said, it's, it's gonna have, it's gonna flow like a real album. It like from Intro to the End and it's gonna be a fun journey how albums are supposed to be listened to. And I, it's kind of asinine to say we're doing albums cuz a lot of people don't put out albums anymore. But I feel like there's this, you know, this resurgence of, you know, I mean I see Country Squire up here, like Tyler Childers, like those are guys who are putting out albums Yeah. And they're not putting out radio singles. Yeah. Eric Church puts out albums. Yeah. You know, and so it's just really cool that he gets this fan base that loves our, these guys get fan base that just love what they're doing. The the product, the whole, the whole thing that they love the journey. And that's one thing I feel like Muske on Bloodline has been missing is a full complete representation of what we're doing. Not just this shotgun approach of all right, this is the song we're doing now, this is the song we're doing now. It's like, no, here's this body of work that reflects what Charlie and I feel right now. Right. And what we want to say and it's Speaker 1 01:14:24 The next Speaker 3 01:14:24 Step. And, and and we're, yeah. It's like, like you saying, it's, it is the next step. You know, it's like we did, everything that we've done from here from the beginning has been a calculated move that was right at the time. And we are at a point now where we feel like it is Right. It's the right time to cut a record. Yeah. And that's where we're at. And we're super pumped about it, man. And, Speaker 2 01:14:45 And it might not change the world, but like we just want to like do some, we want to give that to our fans deserve it right now. They deserve that. And then I hope that someone will be able to listen to this record, this full link record and be like, I respect this because like, this is, I don't, I I I don't think really personally you can call yourself an artist unless you paint a whole canvas of a whole masterpiece and and put that together. And so that's a blurred line. That's a whole nother topic of Speaker 3 01:15:14 Like Yeah. And like, we might not win a Grammy, but it's gonna be true to us and it's gonna be the the record we needed to make. Now Speaker 1 01:15:20 Is it now, is it gonna feature stuff from from an EP that's already been out? Or is this 12 new songs? These 1212 Speaker 3 01:15:25 Songs. Speaker 1 01:15:25 Oh fuck yeah. I love that. Cuz when people put out albums they're like, I heard that song before. I've heard that song before, but like, this'll be a brand new song. It's Speaker 3 01:15:31 Gonna be the first time we've ever really like put out a piece of work that no one's ever heard any of it. Yeah. I mean we're like, during the process, like we're gonna be like probably teasing some songs coming up to it and stuff like that. Speaker 1 01:15:43 Yeah, yeah, Speaker 3 01:15:43 Sure. Speaker 2 01:15:43 Two snippets. Like we, like, we've even like posted, you know, a couple of the songs like on social media, like just like, but it's kind of cool cuz like it might be Char Charlie plays one on his, on his Instagram and that's like, that's all you're getting from it. Or like, I go put one on Instagram. That's all you're getting. Speaker 1 01:15:59 Yeah. You get, you get a verse of the chorus. Speaker 2 01:16:00 Yeah. So now you don't get the whole if you, when you get the whole thing and it's when Charlie and I are both on it doing our thing and with the full band, it's just a whole nother experience. And so it's gonna be cool, it's gonna be real authentic and, and really just Speaker 3 01:16:13 Excited to do it. Yeah. Like we've never cut a record. Yeah. Just Speaker 2 01:16:16 Really organic. And we're gonna take those two weeks and you know, the first week's gonna be tracking with the band and the second week is gonna be all the other stuff we want to add onto it and then vocals and then I think we're gonna be really pleasantly supply prized with the product we got. So I'm really pumped about it. Speaker 1 01:16:33 Oh yeah. We're all pumped about it. That's awesome man. And well this has been, it's been badass Tyler. Yeah. Well Speaker 3 01:16:39 Before y'all end, I know we've already been here for like two hours, but let's just flip the script on this interview and we get to ask you guys a couple questions. Oh Speaker 1 01:16:46 Shit. Oh, okay. Oh shit. Shit. I'm gonna drink my bag and you got, you got stuff. What do you got? Speaker 3 01:16:51 All right. I just don't know, I just wanted to like flip it up a little bit. I don't know if people ever do this, but you guys are our, our our brother so we just like, why not? Anyways, what is your favorite or funniest moment on the road so far? Oh Speaker 1 01:17:05 God. I've had some bad Waffle House moments. <laugh>, especially lately in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. <laugh>, um, I've, uh hmm. Funny, there was that type of room, the sheets and you suck your head underneath the M and MSS Gary. Yeah. And the m and msms came down. That was pretty funny. Um, Speaker 4 01:17:23 I think, I think my favorite thing is just like riding in the van and he, y'all just like get on this kick about something and it's just like, y'all take it to an extreme most times, but it's just hilarious and like all of a sudden Gary will start like climbing over Rose or something and Speaker 1 01:17:38 The band conversation is great when Speaker 3 01:17:40 You get really bored in the van. Anything Oh yeah. Anything goes when you're Speaker 4 01:17:42 Riding through 12 hours of flat Kansas. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:17:47 17 hours coming back from Ville, Connecticut. Did you drive Speaker 3 01:17:50 Yourself a little crazy? Yeah. Speaker 2 01:17:51 Yeah. I'm a little stir crazy. Speaker 4 01:17:53 Just Gary like all of a sudden just, you know, peeking up from a middle row or something, just going, I'm bored. Speaker 1 01:18:00 <laugh> my teen. Yeah. Stuff. Yeah, that's Speaker 2 01:18:04 It. It's, it's fun guys. It's been, y'all have been such a blessing and we love y'all and anything we can do to help with the round of the podcast, you know, we got y'all and Yeah. And that sort of thing. And Speaker 3 01:18:15 Also we're planning on doing our own podcast and Matt and Tyler are probably gonna help us with it, so Oh, oh, we're definitely another something to look forward to that Speaker 1 01:18:22 That is the, that is the plan and that, that is awesome that you guys want us to help you out with that. And, and I think people that's Speaker 4 01:18:27 Also coming in January, right? Yeah. Hopefully, Speaker 3 01:18:29 Hopefully. No promises, but yeah, hopefully <laugh> Speaker 4 01:18:33 Not January, February, if not February, March. Yeah. It's Speaker 1 01:18:35 Gonna march, Speaker 3 01:18:35 January. I will tell you this. It's gonna happen. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:18:38 And, and it's and it's gonna be fun. What do you guys want to do with that by the way? What, what do you want, what's your outlook on having your own podcast? Dude, Speaker 2 01:18:44 I just, I'm, I was listening to one on the way over here and I, and I think it's kind of like I listen to so much music all the time. I just love the fact podcasts is something that I like 'em, especially at night. It's like I'm driving down the road, say it's a six hour drive to mobile and it's like I'm in a room with Joe Rogan and Sergio Simpson Speaker 1 01:19:05 Or Joe Rogan, who's the guy who's the, the, the Marine dude that we listen to. Speaker 3 01:19:09 Oh, David Goggins. David Speaker 1 01:19:10 Goggins. Speaker 3 01:19:11 That dude's a motivator dude. That's for sure. Speaker 2 01:19:13 <laugh>. Yeah. But it's just, I mean, Speaker 3 01:19:15 Makes you want to run through a wall <laugh>. I think. Speaker 2 01:19:17 I think it's a cool way of, cuz it's so just off the cusp. I mean we've just been hanging out Oh yeah, yeah. We've had this conversation on the road, you Speaker 3 01:19:26 Know, it gives people, it gives people an insider like, like they're homies with you. You know, I it's not like it, it makes, it takes the walls down Yeah. Between the artist or whoever you're listening to and makes it feel like, oh, like I'm just sitting next to this dude and he is just a normal guy and answering normal questions, you know, Speaker 2 01:19:42 And, and and to the, the, the population for the most part, our identity is mu musicians and like, we're more than that and we have a lot more interest stuff rather than that. Speaker 1 01:19:53 Absolutely. Yeah. And so Speaker 3 01:19:54 It's just Speaker 2 01:19:55 Like the, the fact is you can bring on different guests and Oh, and we can come in here and talk about whatever and that's what's so cool about podcasts. Speaker 3 01:20:03 It's basically gonna be a, if you a Joe Rogan style podcast, have whoever you want, talk about whatever you want. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:20:10 Hang in, hang in with interesting people, whether that be other people in the music world or Yeah. Dude. Or people or people you guys have just been wanting to talk to, you know. Sure. It could be anybody. Absolutely. Speaker 2 01:20:18 And I mean cuz I listen to everything like Charlie and I were listening to, uh, the guy who owns Whitetail Properties and talking about buying, buying Speaker 3 01:20:26 Land Buying land Speaker 2 01:20:26 Yeah. And stuff like that. And it's just like, Speaker 3 01:20:28 And it's interesting. Speaker 2 01:20:28 Yeah, it is. And it's just whatever you get, you get takes on it. And I mean, listening to a guy like Elon Musk talk and you're just like, Speaker 3 01:20:34 I mean, I listen to podcasts about therapy. I mean there's like millions of different things. Yeah, yeah. You can talk, listen to Speaker 4 01:20:40 Me. And my favorite podcast one that y'all hate on is, uh, the Lord Speaker 3 01:20:44 The Vampire Diary in Speaker 4 01:20:46 <laugh>. It's called Lore, but it's about folklore. Like I love that shit. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:20:50 Tyler listens to, uh, death Metal podcast history. Like, Speaker 4 01:20:55 Hey man, Speaker 3 01:20:56 Just a little, just a little insider on on uh, Tyler. He listens to some weird podcasts. So Yeah, Speaker 4 01:21:00 I'm a history guy. I love history shit. <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:21:03 No, but I, I think it's just, it, it brings a light and there's, I mean there's not many people doing podcasts in this town and I feel like of most entertainment cities, Nashville's usually one that's like later to the, later to the scene. Yeah. And it's kind of be kind of cool to just be like, yo, I mean whether we do this biweekly monthly or whatever, it's just cool to come in, talk about whatever and, and just have a good time hanging out with buddies and I mean, and I've always loved like, like the bar stool guys or like Oh yeah. Speaker 1 01:21:33 Or that's that's what I, we got, you see we got the Viv stool up there on the banner Speaker 2 01:21:37 And like, and like, or the, the, the Pat McAfee, you know, it's like those guys, like it's just a group of guys hanging out. Yeah. And it also too, like, it helps everyone to kind of build you, you build a a, a character. So you have, you have Matt, the New Yorker, you have Boudreau, you have us. And so it's just kinda like all these guys hanging out and it's just a round table discussion. Yeah, yeah. And you could, like I said, you could hit topics of anything we could talk about Speaker 3 01:22:04 Doesn't have to be serious. It Speaker 2 01:22:04 Yeah. We could talk about baseball, we could talk about politics. Probably won't but <laugh>. But Speaker 4 01:22:10 <laugh> Speaker 2 01:22:10 But Speaker 3 01:22:10 Uh Miss me, miss me on that. Yeah, we could but Speaker 1 01:22:13 Jerry stories and this funny, funny shit. Speaker 3 01:22:15 Just, Speaker 2 01:22:16 Just all that stuff Speaker 3 01:22:17 That just gives people insider view on who you are and not just, not just as a musician Speaker 1 01:22:21 You can teach me how to load a gun. Right. Exactly what Speaker 4 01:22:23 I was about to say. We can do, Speaker 3 01:22:25 I don't know if we can, I don't know, <laugh>, I dunno. Speaker 4 01:22:27 Listen man, there's there's a special level to put a shotgun shell in backwards. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:22:33 I know, I heard y'all was running about Dylan Mar with Dylan Marlow. Y'all giving man a hard time. We'll, oh, Speaker 4 01:22:37 All the time. Yeah. And he'll look back. He's Speaker 2 01:22:39 Gonna be a country boy before you know it, Speaker 1 01:22:41 It's coming <laugh>. We'll see, we'll see. It's coming in. Speaker 4 01:22:43 There's still a lot of learning, there's Speaker 3 01:22:45 A lot of, there's a few more Child Dogs and Bang Hangs to be had. Oh, Speaker 1 01:22:48 There's a lot more Child Dogs and Bang Hangs to be had especially in 2020. So we're, we're looking forward to a man and thank you guys for coming in and hanging out and, and doing all Speaker 3 01:22:56 This. That's alright guys. We'll let you give us gas money for this driving out here. It's fine. Yeah. <laugh>, we just drove like an hour. I'm just kidding. <laugh>. Speaker 1 01:23:02 Hey, when I first moved down here, I was living in Spring Hill and my, the guy Dakota, who lives here with me, he convinced me to move down cause um, well I was gonna move down anyway, but I needed a place to stay and he told me Spring Hill was 20 minutes away from downtown. Now I get down here, it's like an, it's like an hour, but again, an hour's closer than 14 hours, which is what to be from New York. Speaker 3 01:23:20 We're Speaker 1 01:23:21 Happy to do so. No, and we, we appreciate you guys coming out and we know that time off the road is valuable. You spend a lot of time with your ladies, spend a lot of time doing other stuff, keeping the business going. So yeah. Dogs Appreci. See y'all coming in. The dogs. The dogs the dogs. You're a dog dad. Oh, a big dog guy. Big dog guy. Big dog guy. Big dog guy. Big Fortnite guy, Speaker 3 01:23:37 Big mini Aussie guy, big Fortnite guy, you Speaker 1 01:23:40 Guys so much. Um, if Speaker 3 01:23:41 Y'all met it this far, make sure you're following in the Round podcast. Um, and also follow us too. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 4 01:23:46 Yeah. Mu Clown Bloodline. Speaker 1 01:23:48 You can follow 'em on everything from Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and even TikTok. Now TikTok videos, but don't big Speaker 3 01:23:53 TikTok guys, Speaker 4 01:23:54 But don't follow Mus Down Bloodline on TikTok. Follow, what is it? Mukadi Beeline Band Bands. Speaker 2 01:23:59 Yeah. Someone took our handle. So we're gonna get that back. We're getting that back. Don't worry, don't Speaker 1 01:24:04 Worry. Back. And y'all get ready for a lot of new music coming out. 2020 Gonna be a big year. Make sure you come out to a show. Um, lots of dates coming up in 2020. Speaker 3 01:24:11 You'll be able to see Matt and Tyler as well. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:24:13 You'll see at the shows, you'll see Boudreau back there. You're making all, making all the magic happen with the sound. Speaker 3 01:24:17 They'll, they'll sign your auto, they'll sign an autograph Speaker 1 01:24:19 And I will sell you a t-shirt. So y'all come on out Speaker 3 01:24:22 And then we'll sign it Speaker 1 01:24:23 And then they'll sign it. Um, and, um, but thank you guys for taking the time out, hanging out and showing off. Love, pleasure with the podcast and stuff, man. We, we love, we love being out with you guys and um, thank you for letting us do cool shit every weekend. Dude. Cool things. Glad, glad you all Speaker 3 01:24:38 Having show Speaker 2 01:24:38 Man. So y'all be good. Speaker 1 01:24:40 Oh, we will be good Tyler. First episode of 2020, buddy. Speaker 4 01:24:43 Second year into Speaker 1 01:24:44 This. Second year into this. Here we go. Um, it's been awesome. Uh, thank you guys for listening. Make sure you guys send right there love too. Show some love to Gary and Charlie. Make sure you follow along all the musk, onne, bloodline stuff. And uh, y'all get ready. We're gonna be doing the rounds. It's gonna be Tuesdays this month. Now. We're gonna be doing a lot of episodes, keeping 'em going biweekly. We got lots of friends we're gonna be having come on. So don't make you Speaker 4 01:25:03 A lot of good content coming up this Speaker 1 01:25:04 Year. A lot of good content. Hopefully we'll be getting cigars and guitars going now. Uh, we talked about it a lot last year. I want to get that going this year. Yeah. But, um, thank you guys as always for tuning in. This has been the End The Round podcast.