Jordan Fletcher

Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is up everyone? Welcome back to the In The Round podcast, second episode of 2020. How you doing Tyler? Doing well. How you doing? Doing great. We got one of our good buddies with us, a guy that, he's got an awesome mustache for one, number two. Speaker 2 00:00:27 He's just, yeah, that just happened today. But yeah. Hey, Speaker 1 00:00:29 It did, it did just happen today. It looks fucking awesome, dude. Yeah, I feel great. And uh, it's our good buddy, Mr. Jordan Fletcher. Jordan, how the hell are you doing, buddy? Dude, I'm Speaker 2 00:00:35 Doing well. Thank you dude. Speaker 1 00:00:36 It's great to have you in here and, uh, we've gotten to spend some time out on the road with you and hang out with you and your crew and, uh, you, you guys got a good vibe going on there out on the road. Speaker 2 00:00:45 Yeah, man. Uh, that's kind of a, it's one of the main things I think you find going on the road so much. You gotta have people that you can spend that much time with. Yeah. Because as you guys know, it can get, it can get kind of tight <laugh> Speaker 1 00:00:56 Eight. Yeah, we're, we're, yeah, no, for sure. Absolutely. You, you spend a lot of time together and stuff. And what I found really cool, so I didn't know this until I started working with Gary and Charlie with Muscatine, that you used to do their merch. I had no idea until like, when I first started doing it. Yeah. Yeah. So what was that like, moving to town and doing the Merx thing and doing the writing thing and wanting and playing? You were playing instruments and stuff to, you were going, you were doing all kinds of shit you first Speaker 2 00:01:22 Spoke to. Yeah, no, I was quite busy, which was a blessing in general, cuz I think one of the hardest things like for anybody moving to town is just figuring a place to kind of plug in. Um, but I was blessed enough originally, my first job, um, I got on the road drumming for Job Fortner. Speaker 1 00:01:37 Oh no. Shit. That's Speaker 2 00:01:38 Awesome. So I did that for about six months and uh, that was rough, dude. That was Speaker 1 00:01:44 Who else was in that bend? That was Ryan. Speaker 2 00:01:46 Ryan, yeah. Ryan Nelson, Chris Giza, me and Joe. Oh Speaker 1 00:01:50 Geez. That's a crew man. Oh dude. Speaker 2 00:01:51 Job had just gotten off the road road with Luke and, and like, he was like, man, I gotta go full band. I, I wanna start touring, you know? And we were like, well, we, I mean, we play instruments so why not? And dude, we were in the back of this Ford Explorer just like <laugh> hoofing it, dude. Oh dude. It was tough man. Renting U-Haul every week, dude. It was tough. And, and so I got off the road with him and, uh, I met Matt Wallace who was managing me Yep. Or managing Muon at the time, and ended up managing me for a while. Um, they got me plugged in with, with Muon. I was like, yo, I'm, I'm trying to do an artist, be, have an artist career, not just, you know, drum or whatever. Um, and they were like, well, you know how to drive a Sprinter van and sell t-shirts. Speaker 2 00:02:30 And I mean, I'd never done either one of those things, but I've driven cars before in trucks. Yeah. So, I mean, I was like, yeah, why not? Of course, <laugh>, you know, and that was kind of the story of my whole career so far. People like being like, Hey man, you wanna do this? And I'm like, yeah, never have done it. Never having done it before. Whole fake it till you make it thing, dude. It's the truest thing you could ever ha like the stories are so true. Like the first show I ever played with Muscat on, they were like, Hey, you wanna play? It was that Hatties? It was in Hattiesburg. So Gary Bruske. Right. It was a Brewski. So Gary, that was where Gary went to school. There's 800 people there, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Sell out. Yeah. And so they're like, yeah, you wanna play a 45 minute set open and set? Speaker 2 00:03:08 I'm like, yeah, of course. Mind you, I've never played a set before. I've only drummed, like, I've only played songs like to in front of some people, done some writer's rounds. I've never done 45 minutes worth of any plan before. Right. And so they're like, Hey, yeah, you wanna do something again? No big deal, for sure. <laugh>. And so I, uh, I remember I'm walking, there's like a, that that ramp going up behind the stage at Bruski, right? Yeah. And I come around the corner and Bradley Jordan just like proud father. He's standing there, he's like, Hey man, you ready to go on? I'm like, yeah, as ready as I'll ever be <laugh>. And he's like, all right, go out there. I go do it. And you know, they were stoked. The crowd was stoked anyway, easy crowd to play to. They're awesome fans, you know. Speaker 2 00:03:44 And so it was all good, you know, I got off stage, Bradley's like, oh, great job. Everybody's, you know, whatever. And the next day I'm sitting there and I'm like, we all met Gary and Charlie's parents for food cuz it was down in their neck of the woods. And I remember Gary's mom goes, so Jordan, how'd you meet the guys? And blah, blah blah. And, and I was talking to her about this and she goes, um, so how long you been doing this? I was actually, last night was my first time ever playing and Bradley was sitting right next to me and he was about to put some food in his mouth. He stopped and he was like, are you kidding me <laugh>? I was like, yeah. He goes, I would've never let you do that if I'd known that. And I was like, I know. That's why I'm not letting anybody know. You know what I mean? I'm like so yeah. Fake it till you make it. Yeah. If there's any, any anything. Speaker 3 00:04:24 That's how I got into sound. Like our professor. So I wanted, so our, there was two scholarships for sound for like upper class people and I was going into my junior year at Tobacco and there was a guy that was really known on campus for Live Sound and I was working a lot in the studio. So I went the studio on and he went a live sound. Well he ends up getting the studio am my professor pulls me in his office and he is like, Hey, so have you ever done Live Sound Now I've done live sound at my church on a mixer that was built in the eighties. Sure. <laugh>. But he is like, so we're gonna like give the scholarship to you, can you do it? And I was just like, yeah, yeah. You know, I can do it. Smile away Speaker 2 00:05:05 Boys. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:05:06 And so he like, he gives me the scholarship and that whole summer I'm kind of like freaking out like, oh, it's so this is gonna be fun. And so like I'm literally like just reading everything. But yeah, that's how I learned to do it. Speaker 2 00:05:16 Well pass fail. Yeah. It's kind of like that thing, like, everybody knows those people that were like naturally talented at one thing or another where it sports or an instrument or something and they get all that validation early on and they never get better. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I know plenty of kids that were like, oh, natural this, that and the other. And then they just never worked on it. Cuz everywhere they went, everybody's like, oh he's great. And they're just known as that great dude or girl or whatever that was, whatever. And they never had to push. So I think there's something to be in that like in that sink or swim moment. Yeah. And you don't know how to swim and it's like, well, we'll figure it out. You know what I mean? Speaker 3 00:05:49 At least I had some time to, you know, figure it out. But yeah, Speaker 2 00:05:51 Well it's just kind of, I think it's kind of cool and I think that's one of the coolest parts about being in this industry is cuz it's like you, you don't know how like, because every kinda experience is, is a new one. You know, every person you meet, you don't know how to do it. There's no like, set rule of how to deal with your relationships and how to further your career, you know? So it's like all of it's new, which is cool. Yeah. No matter how long you've been doing it. Yeah. You know, the only thing that changes is you have a reputation and people act different around you. It's not a matter how you can react, you know, act to people, you know? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:21 Yeah. So how long ago was that show? Ruskis? Speaker 2 00:06:24 Oh my gosh, dude. Uh, March of 17. Speaker 1 00:06:29 Okay. So nice. So over, so a little over two years ago. Now you're fast forward it and you're, you're opening almost three years now. Almost three years. And you're opening full band for, for guys like Muscatine for going, going out there with guys, even like Ray Cher, just other dudes where you're doing and you're and Bradley's booking you where you're, you're headlining shows with Peachtree now. Yeah. Yeah. So I think back to that moment at Bruce skis, now you're have doing the damn thing, putting out music, doing the, doing the artist thing. Dude, Speaker 2 00:06:53 It's awesome, dude. The coolest thing about that is like, I think it's with like with anything you, you get more comfortable with cuz it's like getting good at something. I think the better way of saying that is just getting comfortable with it because good is subjective, right? Yeah. And it's like I feel like I'm getting comfortable with these things to where it's fun now. Yeah. Now I have my, you know, level of quality that I want to meet and that that is what it is. And some people like it or they don't or whatever. And hopefully they all like it. But, um, yeah, for me it's like I'm now at a point to where it's fun, you know what I mean? Because when I first started playing, you're scared you don't, it's not fun. Yeah. At least for me it wasn't fun cuz I wasn't good at it, you know? Yeah. Or I wasn't comfortable with it, you know. But that's the coolest part. The fact that people have over, over the years just invested in me with no other, you know, payoff. But yeah. We think this dude's got whatever. So that's been the coolest thing to me, to see all the people that kind of put hands on the projects and, and kind of made it to what it is. You know what I mean? Speaker 1 00:07:51 Yeah. No, that's, that's badass. And you're from Florida, right? Yeah. Yeah. Which there's a whole herd of you guys from Florida Yeah. That are up here and, and have been part of Florida. Man. The Florida man. Our, like, our, like our buddy Lee Langston, like our buddies. Ryan Nelson, Chad Bishop. Yeah. Dobro Chris, there's so many of you guys that are, that are up here doing it. When did you move to town and how was that process for you? Speaker 2 00:08:13 So I was in college at the, at U N F University of North Florida. And I was there, uh, five years and I was a year away from getting my four year degree. So it was <laugh>, it was not, Speaker 1 00:08:24 What was that degree in? Speaker 2 00:08:26 Uh, ended up being business, but it, that didn't even happen. Okay. I just dropped out. Um, and what that was is, so Ryan Nelson got me into writing songs. I I used to just, we used to all go party at his house when we were in college or Speaker 1 00:08:39 Whatever Sounds about right. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:08:40 And, and that, and that kind of rang true for a while there. Yeah. Oh yeah. Uh, and, and we'd all go hang out and, and he kind of encouraged me. I remember I, I was playing guitar and I, I'd been picking, mainly I was a drummer, but like, I'd been picking a guitar and singing some, I think I was playing like a slightly stupid song or something and he goes, dude, you, you should try like, for real singing and, and writing music. And I remember just kind of sitting there with him and his brother Colin and being like, yo, y'all show me how to write songs. And so that was like the beginning of it. And then it was like more and more talk of hey man, cuz Ryan had already moved up to Nashville, him and him and Chris Cozak. And, and they, they were living together and it was just like, yo, this is what we're doing. And for some reason I felt cold. It was like, Hey man, you gotta go to Nashville. I don't know what it was. Cause I, when I first, the first time I ever came to Nashville, I, I didn't like it, you know what I mean? It was cold. It's 19 degrees. I'd never experienced that kind of cold in my life. Speaker 3 00:09:29 <laugh>, that's probably, uh, five degrees, you know, colder than you ever experienced in Florida, Speaker 2 00:09:34 Ever. Oh, colder than that. Yeah. Dude, I left that morning at like five in the morning. It was 72 degrees dude at five in the morning. I feel that in Florida. And then nine and a half hours later I get out at a Loves and it was 19 degrees <laugh> and I thought I was gonna collapse, dude. I'd never been that cold in my life. <laugh>. And I just remember like that whole thing, the whole experience, me being like, man, this isn't for me dude. I don't know like what I'm doing here. It's like this city's just so much, it was just too much. Yeah. I'd never experienced anything like that. And I remember talking to my mom and being like, yeah, no, I'm never, I'm never coming back here. And mom was like, okay, whatever. And then it just hooked me outta nowhere and now I love it. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, it's given me a life. It's given me a career. It's given me relationships. It's given me everything really that I have. And it's like the coolest kind of thing to be able to be here. Especially with people that I grew up with, you know? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:10:23 That's gotta be really cool to, to grow up with guys like Ryan and come up here and do it. And you guys all playing Whiskey Jam together and you guys all doing things in, in Midtown and kind of coming up together in that way and playing, playing in a band together, going on the road with Job. That had to be a lot of fun too. Like Yeah, Speaker 2 00:10:39 It was fun. It was something too. Well Speaker 1 00:10:41 No, I'm sure there's a lot of stories and stuff but that go along with that. But for you coming up here, what was that, what was that first wild night in Nashville? Like where you're out end of opening where you end up at Red Door at three in the morning, then end up at a diner or waffle less, or even cookout or something like that. Man, Speaker 2 00:10:55 I don't even remember, dude. We used to just cuz it was so expensive going out, man. Speaker 1 00:10:59 Oh, true. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:00 What, what what we'd do is if somebody, like, if we were playing somewhere, hopefully we had a free tab or something, but I mean, you still gotta get home so you don't really lose your mind. Yeah. You go home and then lose your mind, you know what I mean? And that's usually what we did. We had big bonfires and did that whole thing like we'd always done. But that didn't last very long for me. I quit drinking six months into being here. Oh, awesome. Yeah. I'm coming up on three years sober. Hey Christmas. Speaker 1 00:11:22 Congratulations. I'm three and a half years I quit. For real. Yeah, I quit in um, I quit right around Memorial Day, um, by, um, back in 2016. So For real, Speaker 2 00:11:30 Man. Yeah. Hey dude, Speaker 1 00:11:31 Can you, yeah, I had, I had to quit, so dude, it you save. It's, it's interesting being in this town, being sober, isn't it? It's like, Speaker 2 00:11:38 Well now if it's normal now I don't really remember the other side of it. Yeah. But um, yeah, it was weird. I remember like I just quit and then like I played one of the first whiskey jams of the year. Like I quit on Christmas Yeah. In Florida. And then I came back and then I remember like being like, I've never not been buzzed and saying, you know what I mean? Yeah. Or not been drunk and saying or whatever because I was like just living that pretty hard, you know what I mean? And yeah. Then I played Whiskey Jam and I got that one done and I was like, well that wasn't bad. That looks pretty good. You know? And I think that a lot of that is like, it's just like your own nerves. If you feel like you have to do that, cuz I mean physically it'll dry you out. I mean, alcohol's not good for you as a singer. Speaker 1 00:12:16 No, not at all. Speaker 2 00:12:16 So it's like, honestly, you should probably sing better if you don't have any of that in you. Yeah. And so I just kind of got more comfortable that way. But yeah, it's just kind of weird I guess. I guess I Speaker 1 00:12:26 Save a lot of money being, I go out all the time with my friends and Sure. Early on I was working on Broadway, so we were going out downtown and drinks can be very expensive downtown. So I was the, I was the guy that wasn't drinking, so I wasn't spending any money. I mean, buy a girl drink every now and then, but like you save a lot of money in Speaker 3 00:12:43 This town, don't you though? He buys 18 Red Bulls every time he goes Speaker 1 00:12:45 Out. I'm drinking Red Bulls though. That's my problem. I'm a caffeine. I switch from booze to caffeine and I'm pounding bang energy. Yeah, yeah, Speaker 3 00:12:51 Yeah. He'll have like three or four bangs during the time that we're at a show. Speaker 2 00:12:55 Yikes. Speaker 1 00:12:55 I've had big yikes <laugh>. Um, no, yeah, that I've been trying to cut back on those, but like, but yeah. And the bangs are, Speaker 2 00:13:04 I mean the bangs are great. I just think there is definitely a limit to the amount you should drink at period. Speaker 1 00:13:09 Oh, absolutely. You Speaker 2 00:13:10 Know, I think like <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:13:11 No, my limit's Speaker 3 00:13:12 Usually two a day. Speaker 1 00:13:13 4, 4, 4 and four and a and four between loading and loadout is a lot. So I haven't done that in a minute. But there wasn't good for time Speaker 2 00:13:20 For you bro. Man. Just backing up, backing off of it. Yeah. Plus it's baby Speaker 1 00:13:23 Step plus it's brand placement. You're working merch at a muske iron table now and they see a bang. They're immediately like, oh are you selling bangs? And I've been telling 'em like, I could probably make, we could probably make some coins selling bangs. Speaker 2 00:13:33 Yeah, no, totally. I'm totally down. I think bang's a great, you know, company. I think it's a great brand. Speaker 3 00:13:38 See I was a Red Bull guy for years for real. Like, yeah. So I like really have like issues, concentration, especially in high school. Yeah. So like my second class of the day was math and like I would just pound like a 20 ounce Red Bull before school. Yeah. Get through math and then I think the next was like science or English and get through that class and then I'd be good for the day. Yeah. And so like, I would just do that. And that's how I pretty much passed high school was Red Bull. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:14:05 Yeah. It seems like that's a, a big thing. I'm down to just like a pot of coffee through Speaker 1 00:14:09 A day. You're a big coffee guy. Coffee. Speaker 2 00:14:10 Well yeah, coffee now I am day coffee. Yeah. Now I am though. Yeah. Like I used to would jump on some, some, you know, heavy energy drinks or whatever. I do drink an energy drink before I go on stage though. Okay. Yeah. It helps me go from, cuz for me, when I get anxious I get tired. I'm kind of, some people I think are like that, but when I get super nervous, I get really tired. Like oddly tired. Like I could definitely go to sleep tired. Damn. Wow. So I have to kind of get kickstarted cuz once I play that first song or hit that first chord, I get a little shot of adrenaline and I'm, I'm ready to roll. Yeah. You know, next 90 minutes is fine, but like, getting on stage, like I, I kind of gotta get a little something so I'll, I'll drink an energy drink before I go on stage. Speaker 1 00:14:49 Yeah. And now talk about the live show real quick. We'll get into talking about the song and all that. So for the live show, you, you do a good job up there, you and the boys rock it and it's a nice mix of, of your original stuff. You throw a couple of those covers in there. Yeah. Yeah. Like I know I see the, the, uh, the, the, um, tribute the John party in there. You throw some John party in there and you get the crowd really going and moving and you're flying around there with the guitar. For you, what, what's the important part of the live show? Like where, what are you trying to bring out and, Speaker 2 00:15:13 Well, man, I just, like, I remember one time, like I said, I used to be like really get, I'd get tired and nervous on stage. And I remember when I was first starting to play, I was kind of boring on stage. And I remember Sam Crabtree, like I used to sell merch and he used to tee him up for musket on, and Sam like was, I was like, man, how did I sound? How did I sound? He's like, man, you sounded fine. You sounded good. Like, hit the notes. It's not a big deal. He is like, but you looked like you hated it up there. I was like, man, I was just focusing on singing. He was like, man, or I said, man, I'm tired. He goes, everybody's tired. Everybody work today. Everybody spend money on this. Everybody. He's like, you just gotta figure out if this is what you wanna do, if you wanna entertain people or not. Speaker 2 00:15:45 And it hit me. I was like, Dagg gum dude. So that's kinda what it was From then on I was like, man, people really do come out here. And I just, it was me being insecure. Yeah. And it was, but it was taken away from people's experience cuz they want to enjoy it, you know what I mean? And then once I realized that, I was like, these people are having fun and they're enjoying this and this is like what they chose to do on a Friday or Saturday night. You can do anything. Yeah. But you ca you came to see us. And so that's important to me to be able to, to make people feel something, you know, like I feel like it music is either supposed to, you know, create an emotion or appease one and if it's not doing that, then don't, don't mess with it. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's kinda a waste of time. And so I think that comes also with the performance. The live performance needs to do the same thing, you know? Speaker 1 00:16:28 Yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah. For real. Yeah. For, yeah. Absolutely. And now for, for you putting out music, like there's been 2019 was a pretty good year for you putting out some stuff, huh? Well, I put Speaker 2 00:16:37 Out a few songs I didn't put out as much as I wanted, but, um, we got some people on the team, uh, that just, it's, it's, I'm super excited for the, for the release schedule of next year. Okay. Because like, we were gonna just go heavy and just continue releasing throughout the back half of the year. But it was like, hey, um, all my folks at Seagall and, and, uh, Jonathan Singleton jumped on this project. He's producing it. Speaker 1 00:16:59 Oh dude. And he Speaker 2 00:17:00 Was like, Speaker 1 00:17:01 That's Speaker 2 00:17:01 Awesome. Oh, I'm so pumped, dude. Holy. He was, holy shit. And so it was just kind of like, Hey, let's just take a second and make sure this is right and get a full batch of songs That's right. To where you're not, you know, taking whatever money you got and putting it into a single. And then Okay. Push that. And by the time you're done with it, okay, now two months have passed, three months have passed, let's put another one out. And then you're however long behind. Yeah. Because you haven't even started the next one. And so I kept doing that and I was in that bad habit of taking too long, you know? And so it was just like, Hey, take this back half of the year and get your show ready, get your team ready and get your product ready and get ready to, to do this thing instead of always playing catch up, be a year ahead. Yeah. And that was kind of the whole idea. So now we've got a year's worth of songs. Nice. I mean, unless, you know, whoever, if the label gets on and wants to change the plan, that's great. Obviously I'm totally into that. But as it is, we're a year planned out. We're, we're ready a year ahead of time. And that just makes it so much easier to go out and enjoy yourself. Yeah. Because then everybody else enjoys it, you know? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:17:58 And it's le less to worry about, like in the moment you got it all planned out. You just, you can, you can just go that now you said Jonathan Singleton. What's it like working with him? Because you're, you're, you're a songwriting guy. Like, and that's one of the, one of the big guys and he's got his hands in a lot of stuff here in town and he's just such a, such a good dude and a guy that a lot of writers look up to. What's it like to say he's working on your project and he's on, he's in your camp, he's got your back. Speaker 2 00:18:22 I would say Jonathan Singleton is the coolest guy I've ever met. <laugh>, hands down. Uh, I, I don't know man. It was cuz it, that, that was kinda weird for me cuz you know, when you want, when you work with somebody, like you're on a personal basis and you don't wanna be like a fa like, like ging somebody or like a fan. Yeah. But like, I'm a, I'm a fan dude. Speaker 1 00:18:43 Oh dude. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:44 So when he was like, yeah, let's do this project, I was like, all right, well, okay, now this is normal and now we're gonna be working on this level. And then to be able to see behind the curtain of, hey, this is like somebody I'm super stoked to listen to as a consumer, this guy's professional, like, as, as a professional working on my project to watch somebody like that work was just astounding. Cuz he's such like a normal guy. Speaker 1 00:19:05 Oh Speaker 2 00:19:05 Yeah. And so it's like, it's like watching a magic trick, you know? Like you see it happening, but you don't know what's happening <laugh>. And like, that's what it's like. I remember I was sitting in there like, as he was mixing something and like, he did like one thing and I just literally stopped him. I was like, bro, what, what did you just do? And he was like, well, I just did this. And I was like, but what was that? Like? Why do I like this that much more now? Because you Speaker 1 00:19:26 Just did one thing. Speaker 2 00:19:27 Like what did you just do dude? And so it's just a lot of those moments to where I go Yeah. Like, there are people that are that good. You know what what I mean? Yeah. And it's just cool because it lets you know, like, that can happen to be that talented at what you do. And so I'm just honestly just humbled to be a part of that team, um, and just to be like looking forward to this product that much. Like I'm so excited for the music I'm about to put out. Yeah. Dude. Speaker 1 00:19:53 That, that's, that's freaking awesome. Speaker 2 00:19:56 Like, I'm so excited. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:19:57 Yeah. No. And, and you being a writer now, who are some of your, your big co-writers in town? Who are some of the people that you're really getting in the rooms with and you're, you're really vibing with and people that might be, might have some cuts on these projects? Speaker 2 00:20:08 Oh dude, I love, well first of all, my family over at Sea Gale is unreal. Brandon Anderson, I will write with Brandon. Brandon Anderson's one of the best writers I've ever met. Hands down, I'll write with him any day of the week. Any, any, any time ever. Yeah. Like, truly one of the best writers I've ever met. Uh, we got Smith Enquist. I mean like, I, I just wrote with Jeb Gibson the other day and we got a killer song, man. Nice. And that's after Thanksgiving, so that's saying something. Yeah. Most people don't like right after that. No. Uh, man, I like Jake and everybody over there, man. I've really enjoyed getting to write with the people over at, just at my own publishing. But like, uh, at 50 Egg, we got a few, you know, we got Nicks, we got, uh, Jason, uh, I, um, Reid, Isabel and I wrote me on. And so me and him, we keep jumping on it and getting some good songs. But, uh, yeah man, there's so many great writers in this town. Dan Isabel, I started listening. I would definitely forget people because we write a lot. But yeah, dude, I get, I get to write with some really great, great writers and it makes me better cuz it's kind of cool to be the least talented person in a room in a lot of ways. Um, and I've kind of always prided myself in, in being that because you can learn so much. Speaker 1 00:21:16 Yeah. You just soak it up like a sponge dude. Speaker 2 00:21:18 Yeah. In one way or another being the least talented. You know, I think that's like a goal that's always been a goal of mine. And I have, um, like without fail in one way or another, been the least talented person in a room and it just has made me better. Cuz I walk outta there and I'm like, well man, I, Speaker 1 00:21:35 It's a whole iron sharpens iron thing. Speaker 2 00:21:37 Yeah. For sure. Man. We got these people that are been doing this for years and they've got just the credentials to prove it. And they're just incredible writers. You know, they can say something that needs to be said the best way possible. Yeah. And that's what we're just trying to do, you know? Yeah. Because it's, I mean, everybody relates like, you make something that everybody can relate to and that's, that's why this thing works, you know, because everybody can kind of dig into something and say, yeah dude, I feel that. Yeah. And for, to get somebody just to do that is like, it takes a lot of work, you know? Speaker 1 00:22:07 No, and there's, and for every Right that goes great. I'm sure starting out there were a lot of rights where you're just writing with random people, you're trying to figure out people when you first moved to town that you can vibe with. And there there's rights that don't go as well. Like I'm sure when Speaker 2 00:22:18 Sure. Yeah, man, I mean, but I think that it's all, there's always something to learn from a right man. There's always something to learn from a Right. There's not, like, I, I can't, I, I can't recall a time where I literally walked out of a right and said, man, I'm never doing that again. I, that was a waste of my time. You know what I mean? And maybe that's just because I've, I haven't been doing this long enough or whatever, but I just know that when I walk in to some, like walk in and sit down with somebody and try to create something, you know, there's always something to pick up, you know? Yeah. I feel like that's kind of been the case and I've al and I'm always down to, to new rights, you know what I mean? Like, just because I, for that same exact reason, you never know what you're gonna learn from somebody, you know? Yeah. Even if they're brand new, just gotta Nashville, you got something to learn, you know? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:23:01 You don't know until, until you try it. And a hundred percent. Yeah. No, that's, and that's gotta be, that's gotta be cool. So, so for 2020, you gonna be on the road a lot. You doing a lot of, doing a lot of road stuff. Is that kinda the plan or Speaker 2 00:23:12 That's what it looks like, man. Um, hell yeah. So, uh, caa, I'm, I'm with Kylen over at caa Okay. And she's already throwing me a bunch of dates, uh, coming up second week of January. We're already starting. And so hopefully we're gonna be, Speaker 1 00:23:25 Uh, damn. That's early. Speaker 2 00:23:26 Yeah. Busting it. Speaker 1 00:23:27 Hell yeah. Speaker 2 00:23:28 Yeah. Well that was the hope, man. Just Speaker 1 00:23:30 Fucking grind. Just get after it and just, yeah man, go and do it like you got now, especially as you put the project out. Like that's the goal, right? To get the music out there, then to go play the music for consumers in different markets. Go see no northeast, go out west, go expand outside the usual southeast where you, where you've been doing this, you know, and Speaker 2 00:23:48 Well, that's the model. I mean, you see it, I mean, you're on the road with the boys. Like that's where I learned, that's, I've learned everything I know as far as live music is concerned from Gary and Charlie. That's it. Because that's where I learned, I've, I've had no other experience as an artist, as a performing like as, as a singer then in that professional realm like that. My only relationship with singing is professionally. And it's only been like through this group of people. Yeah. So, and I think that's great cuz there are definitely bad habits to learn, but I learned good habits because these guys obviously are some of the most successful independent touring country acts. Yeah. Like one of the most successful, right. So it's like for me to be able to sit there and go, okay, so this is how you do it when you have limited resources and you're, you know, you've only got this like, whatever, you know what I mean? Whatever you have, you have options to further what you're doing. There's no point where you can go, well I can't do this until this happens. Yeah. There's one thing I learned from Gary and Charlie. It was like, well, I mean, I mean, if you don't want to do it then you won't do it. But if you want to do it, you'll get it done. You know what I mean? Speaker 1 00:24:51 We'll figure out a way and you'll, you'll get out there and you'll rock in front of people and you'll, you'll win fans over and you'll do what you gotta do. Speaker 2 00:24:57 A hundred percent. Somebody will, you know, if you, if you annoy somebody enough, they'll let you play a show at their venue. You know what I mean? Like <laugh> at least one. You know, Speaker 1 00:25:05 What, what was, um, going back to the, those early days, what was like a crazy venue that you walked into, whether it was doing the merch thing or whether it was opening form and you were like, this is gonna be rowdy, this is gonna be fun. Cause like we were just in Charlotte, North Carolina over the weekend and Charlotte was wild. I, if that's Speaker 2 00:25:21 Where Charlotte, dude, I would say that, um, one time <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:25:26 Oh, here we Speaker 2 00:25:27 Go. Oh, it's just, it was funny. It was just funny. It wasn't like, there weren't, it wasn't like everybody got crazy. It was funny because we were in Buffalo, New York and this guy was the biggest fan ever. He knew every lyric he was singing and he was screaming it like, you could almost hear him over the monitors. Like, he was so stoked. And it sucked because I had to kick him out because he grabbed Gary's microphone Oh. Grabbed the stand. Like it was a tall, it was a tall stage. Right. And so it was like chest high to him and he was just standing there, there was like no barrier. The barrier was like literally right next to the stage. Yeah. Right. And he just reaches up when Gary's doing a guitar solo <laugh>, and he grabs it dude and starts singing into it. Speaker 1 00:26:14 Oh no. Speaker 2 00:26:15 Oh boy. And we had to kick him out and he didn't understand why. He was like, dude, I love this. And I was like, I'm so sorry dude. But that was the craziest thing I think I've ever seen, Speaker 3 00:26:24 Bro. Yeah. There's uh, there's times like we have the crowd mics now. Yeah. And so when I was first with him, like, I'd wear ears out in front of house just so like if something went wrong, now Lee wears the ears and they're like, we want you on ears. But honestly, the reason I won't do it is cause I hear all the people in the crowd mics and they'll say stuff and it, it just, it's distracting to me. But there's been like some things I've heard that I'm like, I don't know if anybody should hear that. Nobody Speaker 2 00:26:49 Should hear that. Your mouth Yeah. They, Speaker 1 00:26:51 Yeah. That, that that front row section gets, gets crazy at at any show. But definitely they're, there's dial especially Speaker 3 00:26:57 Whenever they're introducing Zolty baby. Well they're, Speaker 1 00:27:00 Yeah, they rose Zoltan now and they goes, swipe right on Tinder ladies all holy girls going nuts. Holy, he's getting Twitter dms and just Speaker 2 00:27:06 Oh's. Funny. I will say that that has been one of the consi most consistent things. The fact that how, how they introduce Zan Toback. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:27:15 It's in the funniest since I've been there. Oh Speaker 2 00:27:17 Really? No, it's the funny, oh, I have seen so many Musco on bloodline shows. So many. So, so many. And like every time, I mean, it hasn't always been, Hey ladies, he's single, but Zolton has always gotten some sort of different kind of introduction. Yeah. And it's al like Charlie used to like, just give him like a different name, like just some different name. Speaker 3 00:27:40 Now we give Weston a different age every time. Speaker 2 00:27:42 Like Bubba, like Bubba something from like, and he would always say like, from the town that they were in right now. So it's like from Starkville, Mississippi <laugh> and everybody'd be like, Speaker 3 00:27:55 We gotta get him to go back to that. Speaker 2 00:27:56 Oh my gosh, dude. It was the funniest thing. Like, and Zolton would just be like sitting there like just shrug his shoulders, you know him and he's just doing his solo. Yeah. And they're like from Starkville, Mississippi Speaker 3 00:28:05 Now they do. Westin just turned 16 or Western, our 14 year old guitar <laugh>, we Speaker 1 00:28:11 Had to go and ask his parents if he could come out. They trust us to take us funny for Speaker 2 00:28:15 The weekend. Speaker 1 00:28:16 So funny. And you just see Weston up there and, and the best part, there was one time where they introduced him and he, they introduced, they were saying the 14 year old guitar player or whatever, and he's 20. He just had a, he took a sip. He just, he just casually sips tall boy Speaker 2 00:28:31 Of Miller Speaker 1 00:28:31 Light on stage. Speaker 2 00:28:33 14 years old. Dude. Speaker 1 00:28:34 He's up there wearing a bass pro trucker hat. Just Speaker 2 00:28:37 Somebody give him a shot. He's 14 years old. Just turned Speaker 3 00:28:40 There. There times also where I'm out in front of house and like the like house guy that's running lights will be like, really? And you're like, nah dude, he's <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:28:49 Wait for really? He's working it. Yeah. I'm like, dude, but what's so funny is how good Weston is on the guitar. Dude. He's Speaker 3 00:28:53 Sick. Speaker 2 00:28:53 That's great. Like he's a freak. Speaker 1 00:28:55 Yeah, he's, he's absolutely insane. He's a little fucking prodigy. And he is just, he's and he is funny too also, he's not a vegan anymore. He's eating chicken now, which is incredible. He had steak. Speaker 2 00:29:04 I don't dunno if that's good or bad. He had steak. Oh. Speaker 1 00:29:06 And he had steak the other night. Well, Speaker 2 00:29:07 I mean, if you're jumping off the train, jump off. Speaker 1 00:29:09 You know what I mean? Have you heard the story of when they were in Montgomery? It was right before I jumped in camp before I started working with 'em. But there was a show Was that ring? Speaker 3 00:29:16 July 4th weekend we were at Montgomery. I forget the venue name, but like, it was a knockoff top golf. That is what it was. That's very funny. Yeah. And we got sponsored by like a big, like roadhouse chain, Speaker 2 00:29:31 Like knockoff, like was it like sketchy knockoff? Speaker 3 00:29:34 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:29:35 Like you're on the second floor and it's like, no, no, Speaker 3 00:29:38 No, no, no, no. Like it, there it was outdoors, all of it. Sweet. 4th of July weekend in Montgomery, Alabama. Speaker 2 00:29:43 So it was just like a driving range. Yeah. Just like you're going out. It Speaker 3 00:29:46 Was, it was a glorified driving range. But like, we're sitting in the green room, which is like an old trailer that they've converted literally Speaker 1 00:29:52 With. You said pictures of just tits everywhere. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:29:54 Yeah. Justt Speaker 2 00:29:55 Everywhere. Speaker 3 00:29:56 Like literally dude. But, uh, it's literal. He literally called it the titty room and there's, his girls would press their chest up to the wall and outline their boobs and sign it. Like that, that, so Speaker 2 00:30:07 This is a classy joint is what you're saying? Oh, yeah, yeah. Speaker 3 00:30:09 Yeah. It looks and the, like, the green room looks like you're walking into a southern grandma's house that hasn't changed since the 1960s. Like Speaker 1 00:30:20 Shaggy carpet, Speaker 3 00:30:21 Like shagged carpet. There's the like covers on the couches, you know, I, oh, I'm, Speaker 2 00:30:26 I'm Speaker 3 00:30:27 Tracking with you dude. Yeah, you're there. I'm with you. But anyways, so the guy that Speaker 2 00:30:30 Came, is it wood paneled walls? Yep. Oh baby, I got it dude. I got it. Figured. Vinyl sink wide. Speaker 3 00:30:36 The, uh, vinyl countertops, you know. Speaker 2 00:30:38 Oh, I'm with you. Yeah, you're right there. Say no more. I got it. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:30:40 So, uh, the guy that's catering us, he works for like a national chain, like a roadhouse place and he like walks in and he goes, so I hear you got one of them vegans. I got some salmon for him. No. Yeah, London Weston was not on the road with us that weekend. He had to sub out that weekend, Speaker 2 00:30:58 But, but that's hilarious. Yeah, dude, that's like from my big fat Greek wedding. Speaker 3 00:31:00 Yeah. We all just kind of like, looked at each other. Like, I'm pretty sure it was me and Charlie, like just kind of looked at each other dude and just like stared. That's funny, bro. Okay. Speaker 2 00:31:08 <laugh>. Holy smokes. That's so funny. If you don't know, you don't know. The funny thing is the fact that it's honest. Yeah. It would be a bad joke if he didn't know. Yeah. If, if he did know. But, Speaker 3 00:31:17 And he was like a great guy. Like the Speaker 2 00:31:18 Fact that he didn't know. He's honestly like, man, I'm really trying to be Speaker 3 00:31:21 Considerate. Yeah. He really Speaker 1 00:31:22 Was. I got some salmon for Speaker 2 00:31:24 The vegan dude. I went outta my way. I got Charlie. Charlie <laugh>. No doubt. Yeah. I would've eaten it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, but then again, I'm not a vegan, so Speaker 3 00:31:31 Yeah, it is great. Catering. We got steak and chicken and everything. Dude, it was great. When Speaker 1 00:31:35 There's catering at shows that, that is like the best feeling, Speaker 2 00:31:38 Bro. When I don't have to pay for something. Amen. I'm just, I'm literally just sitting there just thankful. Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter what it is. Even if it's like a pack of crackers. I'm like, thank you so much. Sometimes Speaker 3 00:31:47 These bar gigs, like from my end can be some nightmares, right. That you walk into every now and then. Yeah. But like walking up to the bar and being like, Hey, I want this. And they're just like, here's food. Right. That's, that's great. Speaker 2 00:31:59 Hey, let me get a grilled chicken sandwich. Exactly. You want fries or tater tots? I'm like, oh, we made it, we made it. Load it up, put it on the sandwich. I don't even care, man. That's Speaker 3 00:32:09 Was last night. I ordered, uh, burger Republic for dinner and they're uh, I've never even heard Speaker 2 00:32:14 Of that place. Oh dude. Speaker 3 00:32:15 Is that place. Speaker 2 00:32:16 I've heard of it. Either. Speaker 3 00:32:17 You gotta go there to eat it, to really enjoy it. But they have, uh, what is it, shoot, garlic aioli tater tots. And they send a little thing of cheese fondu. For real, for real. Speaker 2 00:32:34 So we're, we're onto something is what you Speaker 3 00:32:35 Said. Tater tots with fondue. It's, it's Speaker 2 00:32:38 Yikes. It's game changer. I'm that game changer. I'm into that. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:32:41 Dude. Benton's bacon. They use Benton's bacon only. Speaker 2 00:32:44 What's that? Speaker 3 00:32:45 It's like a really thick cut of like Tennessee bacon. Like Speaker 2 00:32:48 It's, yeah, that's great. You can make, you can, you can go wrong. You can cook thick bacon. Wrong thick cut bacon. Yeah. Like absolutely thick cut bacon. You can mess it up for sure. And Speaker 3 00:32:55 They do it like where it's kind of still a little bit chewy, but it's like, Speaker 2 00:32:59 You gotta low and slow it. If you try and like sear a thick cut piece of bacon, you're gonna, you're gonna burn it. You're done. You might as well just go back to bed. I mean, honestly, just call it a night. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:33:08 Yeah. What's your late night go to for, for food? Like if you're, if you're like, and if you're doing like, the diet thing, what, what would be like a cheat day meal for you? Speaker 2 00:33:16 A cheat day? Speaker 1 00:33:17 Like a cheat day? What's something that you just love? Like you're like a, like a food. You're Speaker 2 00:33:21 Like, I tacos, like they won't exist tomorrow. I eat taco. Dude, I ate seven tacos before I walked up in here, dude. Oh hell yeah. <laugh>. I eat tacos all the time. I can't. You Speaker 3 00:33:29 Just show up in this taco Speaker 1 00:33:30 Showed up in your, in your, you showed up. That's a te taco. Oh, it it's a tundra. Oh, it's a tundra. It's the big, it's the, it's the taco's. Bigger brother. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:33:37 It's like the burrito. Speaker 1 00:33:38 The burrito. There we go. Speaker 2 00:33:39 Yeah. It's the burrito <laugh>. No, they, uh, yeah, no, I eat tacos a lot. The the authentic ones, you know, like the little, the double they do the double corn teas. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:33:46 They do. See I was so used to like, so like coming here from South Alabama, we don't have like the real Mexican stuff. So like I'm used to like Taco Bell is my version of a taco, right. Speaker 2 00:33:56 Flour tortilla. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:57 Yeah. Sort of. And I always forget like going somewhere with Charlie or Zolton that we're going to an authentic place. And I see I don't like, like onions and cilantro and all that kind of stuff on my stuff. I'm very plain eater and I always forget that they don't put cheese. So I just end up ordering a taco and it comes out like chicken or like el pastor Right. And I'm like, where's the cheese? And I'm like, frick, they don't do that here. Speaker 2 00:34:19 Right, right. Well see, I've been like, changed completely. Like I, I don't want to eat the other kind now. Like I've, I'm so used to it. Speaker 1 00:34:26 You're a big like, taco Mamasita guy or like, where's the spot you go? I Speaker 2 00:34:29 Mean, sure. But no, I mean like, I go to t YM tacos. E macOS. Yeah. Dude, I'm talking about no level. I roll up in the joint and I get tacos on top of tacos. Dude, I get so many tacos, bro. I I will get, Speaker 3 00:34:41 Hey, whenever we go home today, I'll have to show you one of the spots that Zolton took me. We'll go get some extra. When Speaker 2 00:34:46 You got I Cuba lette. You got five guys. That's Speaker 3 00:34:48 Where Zoltan took me. There's one on here on Nolansville near my house. Dude, Speaker 2 00:34:51 It's great. Yeah, it's great. It's all great dude. Yeah. It's like you can get some really good authentic whatever meals. Yeah. We, Speaker 3 00:34:58 We had Mexican yesterday. Speaker 1 00:34:59 Yeah, we have pretty good Mexican. Speaker 2 00:35:01 See that's what I'm talking about. But that's what I'll do. And that's not even that bad for you. Yeah. Cuz it's all like, I mean the only thing that's processed is what the corn tortilla and it's like, not even though. Yeah. And that's just a corn Speaker 1 00:35:10 Tortilla's and that's such a small part of it. Speaker 2 00:35:12 Yeah, yeah. No. So like yeah, that's my thing. That's my cheat. Or I'll go, if, if steak is on sale, I'll, I'll make a steak and I make a mean steak, so. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:35:20 Yeah. You grill, you grill it, pan fry it. What do you do? Yeah, Speaker 2 00:35:22 I grill it. Okay. Speaker 2 00:35:23 I'll do off heat. So I'll sear it. Um, I'll do Kohls on one side, so I just have a regular Weber. Yeah. And I'll do all the Kohls like heavy coals on one side of it. And I season my stuff heavy with, it's gotta have some sort of black pepper. It's gotta have salt on it, uh, because I need it to crisp a little bit. And it is, I get it. It's hot to where it renders the fat. I don't care if it's medium, medium rare. I mean, because if you cook it right, it's all gonna be tender. So you sear it to where it's just starting to render the fat. And I love a rib eye. And then I go off heat and recently I've been taking a stick of, uh, of uh, hickory wood and throwing it in there, covering it to where the vent holes go over. Cuz it's off eat now, right? Yeah. Go. Or the vent hole is sticking up over the steak and so it's pulling that smoke straight through it and it has the smokiest flavor. It's so good. Speaker 1 00:36:12 Jesus. Chef Jordan Fletcher. Speaker 2 00:36:14 I mean, I'll make a steak. I don't know if I'm a chef. Speaker 1 00:36:16 No. But a steak though. But a steak sometimes. That's all you need. Speaker 2 00:36:18 I'm down. Oh, it is all you need. Yeah. Yeah. I can. Yeah. I'll freak you out with a steak. And my mashed potatoes. Speaker 3 00:36:22 You, you big seafood guy coming from Florida. Absolutely. Have you ever had swordfish? That's my favorite. Like cut Speaker 2 00:36:28 Honestly, man, I don't think I have. Oh no. I have had swordfish. I have, I had it one time. Yeah. But, uh, I can't really remember what it tasted like. I did not eat that often. Speaker 3 00:36:35 It's not like stupid fishy, but like, it's like really good and it's really like, because sword fish are like so fast and they're constantly moving. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> it's very low fat. Sure. And it's a very lean meat. Yeah. And it's probably my favorite cut of meat. Speaker 2 00:36:48 Yeah. No, I'm a big fan. I, I'm, I'm a big fan of seafood in general. Yeah. It doesn't really matter what it is. I'll Speaker 1 00:36:53 Eat it. Growing up in Florida, have you ever shot an alligator? I always ask this one on the Florida guys. Speaker 2 00:36:57 No. Okay. I haven't. I I have not. And um, man, I never hunted. I just always Speaker 1 00:37:03 Fished because when we had Chad Bishop on, that was his big, well Chad Speaker 2 00:37:06 Bishop is a, Speaker 1 00:37:06 He's a country. He's a country. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:37:08 He, Chad Bishop is an animal's worst nightmare. Speaker 3 00:37:12 <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:37:14 If he's got a tag for it, he will end up bringing that animal home. Yeah. He's yeah. Chad Bishop. Speaker 3 00:37:18 And we'll see Chad and they're like, shit. Speaker 2 00:37:20 Yeah. Right. They're like, I gotta go home now. No. Yeah. For real. I just never hunted, I never grew up hunting. I grew up fishing and surfing and do that whole thing, but, um, Speaker 3 00:37:28 Surfing. Speaker 2 00:37:30 Oh yeah, Speaker 3 00:37:30 They have that in Florida. Speaker 1 00:37:32 Yeah. Did you have See I Speaker 3 00:37:33 Come from the Gulf side, so like we were, we Speaker 2 00:37:35 Really don't have that. Yeah. They, they, you seldom get waves on the Gulf side. Yeah, but you, you do sometimes if you got a, Speaker 3 00:37:39 Usually it's a hurricane, but Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:37:41 A well-placed storm in the middle of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it doesn't hurt anybody, but good Speaker 1 00:37:44 Waves. Yeah. So, so where in Florida exactly are you from? Speaker 2 00:37:46 Jacksonville, Northeast. Speaker 1 00:37:47 Oh, she'll right you around. Okay. So you grew up and up with those Speaker 2 00:37:50 Guys, Ryan and grew up one mile away from each other. Speaker 1 00:37:52 Oh no shit. Speaker 2 00:37:53 Our neighborhoods were literally right across the street from each other. Speaker 3 00:37:57 Wow. Speaker 1 00:37:58 Yeah. Holy shit. Speaker 2 00:37:59 We grew up one mile away from each other and same with Chris. Speaker 1 00:38:02 Damn. And now you're all here all doing, all putting Speaker 2 00:38:06 Guys, we're all doing the thing, man. Speaker 1 00:38:07 Yeah. Like seriously, like what are the odds that y'all end up in fucking Nashville together? Speaker 2 00:38:11 The odds are very slim. I think it was a, a divine plan cuz it's quite the, quite the story if you look at it backwards, you would never thought it would've happened. You know? Speaker 3 00:38:18 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:38:19 That's, that's insane. Like, that's seriously Speaker 2 00:38:21 Absolutely freaking cool. Yeah. It's absolutely insane. Speaker 1 00:38:23 And, and there's something to be said now. There's all the, there is a lot of talent coming outta Florida. Like there's a lot of you guys come coming up here and doing it. Everybody talks about Georgia and Texas and all these other states mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but Florida, there's, because you guys grew up with so many different musical influences too, like you were talking about. Yeah, I played a guitar playing a slightly stupid song. There's that chill vibe. Yeah. With, with sublime in a lot of those bands and just, just that chill, oceany surfer kind of vibe. Yeah. But then there's the country in there. Then you got the southern rock influence, then you do have hip hop and rap in certain parts. And so for you, what'd you grow up listening to? What were you jamming to? Speaker 2 00:38:53 Dude, I, I'll say that, um, Jacksonville is very, very unique because you do, like, growing up, a lot of my buddies were in hardcore like a, a lot They did hardcore. They did. Yeah. Like hardcore punk or whatever. Um, but you didn't have to go far to find any genre of music because I spent a lot of time, like at the coast or whatever, I, I, I listened to a lot of reggae, I listened to a lot of, uh, like beach rock, stuff like that. Um, but also just living where I lived, which was a little closer. So I grew up about 30 minutes from the coast. Okay. But I was like right near, so I li I grew up across the, the, the river St. John's River from like where the vans aunts grew up. So Skynyrd and all that. And so that was kind of the thing, if we were listening to it, we didn't dive too much into commercial country growing up. We listened to more southern rock, we listened to that kind of thing. Like Speaker 1 00:39:42 Skynyrd, the Molly Hatch Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:44 Mean Speaker 1 00:39:45 It specials like Speaker 2 00:39:46 Country. We listened to it because it was on, in, in the car when we were riding around, you know, or like somebody's, you know, whatever it was playing. But it was, it wasn't necessarily the main interest until like, I really started getting into writing. I remember I, I listened to Josh Thompson that way out here album and I found out that he was like, oh. And they were like, oh, and he wrote this song for Soandso. I was like, what do you mean? He wrote it for Soandso, you know what I mean? Like, I didn't even know that people didn't write, you know, I was listening to Jack Johnson, I was listening to all this stuff, you know, where it's like all just songwriters that just that play their stuff, you know? Yeah. But I didn't know that there was a whole other career for people that are like, Hey, we write stuff for other people. Speaker 2 00:40:25 And when I heard that, I was like, that's the coolest thing ever. That's the coolest thing ever. And so I just started trying to write songs and it kind of put me in that position and I just fell in love with the, with with that country. With the country sound and, and what that means because there's so much, so much room for it. I, I do love traditional country and I've been really leaning more towards that recently. But, um, I, I definitely have that beach, uh, influence that I, I don't ever want to get rid of, you Speaker 1 00:40:51 Know? Yeah. And that's what I think is so cool about country right now. And people talk about pop country and bro Country and Red Dirt and the guys muskan and they've coined the term Red clay country cuz they're from Alabama and they, they're accepted in Texas, which not a lot of Nashville acts are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but there's so many different styles right now that like, grow up because I think everybody grew up on different, different influences. Sure. Yeah. Like there was a point in time where the people that were putting out country music were just growing up listening to country music. That's all that they listened to. Sure. But now everybody listens to so much, so many different kinds of music that all those influences are crossing in. Like that beachy vibe makes in like, like a lot of your songs have that, that chill vibe. Vibe to it. Sure. Yeah. Which is so freaking cool. And I really enjoy that. And like, because it's, cuz you, like you grew up with all these different like vibes and different songs and Speaker 2 00:41:38 Stuff. Yeah. For Speaker 1 00:41:38 Sure. Man. So freaking cool. Speaker 2 00:41:39 Yeah. I love it. I think there you're kind of seeing a dissolution of, of like the, the walls that separate genres right now. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think is really cool. I think it's cool, man. Yeah. I think that I, I just, I mean there is the, like, the value in kind of being a purist to what you listen to or whatever, but that's not gonna move anything forward, you know? Um, because if something sounds great, it's gonna always be great. Like, um, like I, I love gospel, like old school hymns and don't change that. Like, I wanna listen to that. I wanna listen to Swing Low Sweet Jared. I wanna listen to that if I wanna listen to that, you know what I mean? Yeah. And if I wanna listen to something else, let me listen to something else. Don't be like, Hey, you are now in this, so do that. Speaker 2 00:42:25 And it's like, well no, I wanna create what I wanna listen to. And that's why I think being a consumer is just as important as being a songwriter. Cuz if you're just writing songs, you're just shooting at some arbitrary target that somebody says, Hey, this person needs this kind of song. I'm not saying it doesn't work cuz the people in this town are great so they can pull off anything. But for me, I'm not that good. So I kind of have to write what I want to hear to have that incentive to, to create that, you know what I mean? And that's the way I've seen it. So it's like, as a consumer, it's like, it's kind of dangerous for somebody to say, you are this and I've written like super traditional country songs and it's a country song for sure. But it's like to sit down and say, now this is, you know, that's it. Now it's like, nah, Speaker 1 00:43:06 That's all you. Yeah, no, you, you, when you put a box around things, it, I that can really fuck up the creativity side of things, you know, like, Speaker 2 00:43:12 And consumers don't want that man. Like if you look at, like, if you go on Spotify, you can literally at the flick, like just the slide of a finger, go to anywhere, like any genre and feel any emotion, Speaker 1 00:43:23 Literally any genre, any language, all kinds of different stuff. Like just the, the way that music is so accessible now. And I know for you guys as writers, it was all the stuff that happened with Spotify and royalties and all that. Sure. That's all, that's a whole issue to look into. But music is so accessible now and you don't just have to be on the radio anymore. Like, anybody like playlists are so huge and like, say the guys that like Raised, rowdy are doing with putting out a playlist what Whiskey Jam does with putting out a playlist. Yeah. Like, there's so many ways for new artists to be discovered, which is so cool, you Speaker 2 00:43:51 Know? Yeah. Man, I think that's important, dude. I mean, I dunno, I think one of the, like there it definitely has changed, like the way money is made and the way it's kind of distributed is kind of weird right now. Yeah. Because there is such a big change. But I, I, I think change is great, you know what I mean? I think like when you, when you kind of like kind of shake the, the foundation of the way things have been done for 30 years, it's kind of cool to get to see, cuz it allows people to kind get ahead. It's kinda like the wild west, you know, like nobody knows what's going on, you know what I mean? And it's like, once you kind of see it, like now you gotta really watch how people are doing stuff and how they're running their careers. And it's like if someone tries something new and it pops off, it's like now everybody's gonna try and run in that direction. It's just cool to me, man. Like I, I'm a, I'm a huge fan of like having that freedom to be like, okay, yeah. So stuff is really changing right now, so how do we, yeah. Speaker 1 00:44:41 And Right. And I think right now there's a, there's a group of you guys and girls here in town that are really shaking the, really stirring the pot for Yeah, I hope so. For me. Oh, like seriously. And, and it's funny, like my, my first, my first couple weeks in town, I remember seeing Ryan Nelson play a whiskey jam. I remember seeing Lady Wilson play a whiskey jam. I remember seeing you play a whiskey jam. Yeah. Yeah. I remember starting to meet all these different people and there's, there's just this crew, this, this core crew in, in Midtown right now that people are starting to catch onto and like, that are, that are mix things up. Like you have somebody like Hannah Dasher who's putting out the, the styles of music that she's really putting out are like different. Yeah. Yeah. And then you and Ryan and Nelson dropping a freaking song all the time on those Fridays and stuff where he was just, the music was just kind of just coming out and stuff. And it's super cool to be, to be around all that cause Yeah. Speaker 2 00:45:25 We have a lot of freedom now. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:45:28 The freedom right now for, for writers and stuff I think is at an all time high. Speaker 2 00:45:32 For sure. Speaker 1 00:45:32 And I think it's just gonna keep going that direction hopefully for you guys where it's, you guys have that creativity and can really express it, you know? Speaker 2 00:45:40 Yeah, I hope so. I mean, I know that you don't get into this industry to make money. Yeah. Because if you do that you should just go get an accounting account. Speaker 1 00:45:48 That's how it was for me with radio too. I was, when I was doing the radio DJ thing, I was making shit money with the state of New Jersey taking half of it in taxes and it sucked, you know? And you do it cuz you love it. It's a passion business. Speaker 2 00:45:59 Yeah. I have multiple jobs. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:46:01 And yeah, I feel and I feel that too. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:46:03 And that's not something that, yeah dude, I think it's like there's no value in the facade of being like, Hey, I'm a rockstar. Yeah. It's like, no, you're not. I mean, and if you are, why just chill. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, yo, like we're all working, everybody's working. If you're at the top, Luke Combs is working his ass off. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like everybody's working's how still how you get there and that's how you stay there. Exactly. So it's, it's just, everybody's in the same mindset. It's like everybody's gotta work. And it don't matter how you got there. If you're, if you're there, you, you deserve to be there. Cuz everybody's got opinions about different artists of Oh, he busted it or he did this or he did that or she did this. But it's like, dude, there isn't a single person that's sitting at the top of a radio chart that didn't have to work harder than everyone around him. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, it gives you that respect to where it's like, yeah man. Like I feel you. Cuz this is all hard for everyone involved artists, people that aren't in like, specifically performing or anything, man. It's like, it gives you that perspective once you get into this thing to have just a lot more just appreciation for everyone around you. Cuz everybody's doing the same thing, man. Speaker 1 00:47:07 Yeah, no, there's so many people that are, that are trying to do this. Like, to be able to, to get up to the top and stuff. And everybody does grind. Like, I mean, everybody's, there's so many people that have worked on, worked on Broadway that are now doing, having doing out playing music. There's so many people that, that do Uber, do Lyft, do all kinds. There's so many different side hustles in this town where everybody's gotta really do what you gotta do to stay afloat, to pay the bills, you know, to be able to support doing what you want. Speaker 2 00:47:32 Yeah. Man. Which is cool, man. So I think that it's good that it's changing because it allows us to do what we're supposed to be doing. Yeah. You know what I mean? And we've got those people that have just shown that like, hey, work works like you, like I just said, Luke Combs work works must get on bloodline work works. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you work, it'll work. Yeah. You know, that's just the way this thing goes, which is cool, man. Speaker 3 00:47:53 So, so I feel like the more you work, the more you refine your craft. Speaker 2 00:47:57 Absolutely. Speaker 3 00:47:58 And the more you do that, the more, the more you're intentionally doing something and the less you're just throwing a shot in the dart. Right. And hoping that something sticks, sticks six, you know? Speaker 2 00:48:10 Yeah. Man, I, I think that I I I always felt this way. Like if, if I moved to town and everything I wanted to happen happened right then, like you wouldn't have been able to tell me anything. Yeah. Like, I would've gotten an ego, I would've done what, whatever this out or the other, and it's like, I think it's all healthy for you. It's like a healthy dose of that kind of constant humility of, Hey man, like everybody's working that hard, everybody's doing this. So just like, take it in stride and, and do what you feel like you're supposed to be doing. Don't shoot at somebody else's target. Shoot at your own target. And if it's, it's gonna do what it's gonna do. Yeah. Which I think is great. It's freeing to feel that way, you know what I mean? Yeah. Instead of feeling like, oh I got that guy did this, so I'm gonna go do that. It's like, nah, don't do that. It's not gonna work. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:48:50 Yeah. I also, it also makes everything sweeter at the end. Yeah. Like when something does break for you, it just makes it sweeter cuz you remember like where you came from and what you did to get there, you know? Speaker 2 00:49:01 Absolutely. And even if it doesn't, dude, I'd rather crash my own ship. Exactly. Speaker 3 00:49:04 You know Speaker 2 00:49:04 What I mean? <laugh> Yeah. I'd rather do that. I'd rather do exactly what I know I need to be doing and it failed than me to pretend something else and, and have to sustain that cuz that scares me. That kind of stuff scares me. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:49:16 No, and also grinding on the songwriters side, you were telling us you do, you've had a lot of like double writes and like, you'll some like, you're like writing you, you gotta be in those rooms and you gotta be doing a lot of it. Absolutely. Like how many songs? Absolutely. How many songs do you think you wrote this year? Speaker 2 00:49:31 Couldn't even tell you. If I guessed I'd, I'd be lying. I couldn't even tell you. And but the thing is, I, I know people that write more than I do. Oh yeah. People that are way more successful than me that Right. Way more than I do. You know what I mean? Like, Speaker 1 00:49:41 People are like, it's just such a, such a ground. I don't think people outside of Nashville realize that. Like the writing side of it, you're freaking busting ass. Like you're, sometimes, sometimes people can squeeze three into a day. Like Speaker 2 00:49:52 Yeah, it's dude that, that hustle is so I respect that and it's like, if somebody, if you're at that point in your career and that's just what you're doing, don't let somebody tell you, oh, you, you're gonna run outta juice. How can you actually do that? It's like, nah. If you want to be a professional, whatever. If you want to go be a runner and you wanna run a bunch and somebody's like, Hey, that's not good for you. It's like, well that's where you're at and that's what you're trying to do then don't let somebody tell you no. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, if you feel the point, like if you've got the stamina to write three songs in a day, that's only gonna make you better. You might not get three good songs. You might not even finish three songs. But if you've got that, that's where you're at as a writer at that point. Speaker 2 00:50:29 Don't let anybody tell you not to. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because that just comes from an insecurity. So it's like, I think everybody just needs to respond to kinda where they are at creatively. Because there have been times where I've woken up and I'm like, man, I do not know how I'm gonna sit down and write a song today. I have no energy. My focus is whack. You know what I mean? And then there are days that I go, man, we finished a song, man, let's get another one. Yeah. We're the same group of people. Hey, let's hit another one. Dude, Speaker 1 00:50:52 We we got, we got a vibe, let's just go. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:50:54 Yeah man. It's just, you gotta kind of follow where you're at because that's how the creative process is. It's so, it's so kind of, I I think it's, it's divine. Like, you know what I mean? It's like you don't have control over it. So if it's there you have to run with it, whatever that means, you know? Speaker 1 00:51:08 Yeah, no, for sure. Absolutely. And then talking about your music and stuff. So do we have a, do we have a timetable on 2020? Speaker 2 00:51:15 Oh, we got a timetable for sure. Um, end of January you're gonna hear the first release. Hell yeah. Speaker 1 00:51:20 You're you're really looking, you're really gonna be starting off early in 2020. You're here. Absolutely. You've got, you've got shows. Are those shows announced yet for the early part of January? Or Not yet? Speaker 2 00:51:30 I just confirmed 'em. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm Speaker 1 00:51:32 I'll you, okay. So y'all, y'all pay attention and, and follow along with all that. Like, cuz you're gonna be, I have a feeling like 2020 is gonna be a big year. Speaker 2 00:51:40 We'll see, man, we're gonna be doing a lot of stuff. So however that ends up, that's gonna be fun. Speaker 1 00:51:44 No, but that's how you make, that's how you make a buzz. And like you said, all the hard work and learning a lot in this past year and the year before that. And just, dude, it's freaking cool to see, like, you moved to town and, and you've hustled as much as anybody like to see you going out and doing what you're doing and, and to see you out there on a stage now how people coming out to, to see your show, which is so freaking cool. Speaker 2 00:52:05 Yeah, man, that blew me. That, that blows me away. Like, Speaker 1 00:52:07 Yeah. What was that then there was that show you did with Peachtree? It was recently Speaker 2 00:52:11 The first, my first headlining show. It Speaker 1 00:52:13 Was in, was it in Rome? Was that in Rome? It was Speaker 2 00:52:14 In Rome. It was in Rome, man. 85 people showed up. Speaker 3 00:52:18 Hell Speaker 2 00:52:18 Yeah, dude. I was stoked. That was the first headlining show was last year. Some, whenever it was, uh, the first headlining show I ever did, man. And that many people paid to see. And and I think Rome's pretty cool because no, you know, not, not a ton of people live in Rome. Speaker 1 00:52:32 That's the brew the brew house. Right? Yeah. Honestly, Speaker 3 00:52:33 A lot of my favorite artists come from Rome. Like, we're born in Rome. Speaker 2 00:52:36 Yeah, right. Speaker 3 00:52:37 Like guys like Butch Walker, Manchester Orchestra, like all those guys like sure. More rock stuff, but like, still like Rome's Rome's a special place. Speaker 2 00:52:45 Yeah. We, I I think it was awesome man. And it was just something cuz it was like, I'd never seen that. I had no idea how many people were gonna show up like that. Many people paid to come see me. So I was like, dude, that's dope. You know, it's not anywhere near where I grew up. It was just like, Hey, hardnosed, hey, what's it gonna, what does it look like for me to go start touring without any new music out right now? So I'm just eager to see what some new music will do to that number. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:53:08 You know? Hell yeah. Yeah. For sure. You know what I mean? The new, the new music I'm sure is gonna gonna help with that. And how, how many, um, how many songs are you looking to be releasing this year? Can you give us that number? Six. Six? Okay. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Six. And those are all songs you've had, uh, you've had, obviously you're handed as a, as a writer and stuff, you're going to the studio and that's, and that's what Jonathan's helping out with. Speaker 2 00:53:29 Yeah, man. He's, he's making, I, I wrote a couple with him, um, which is obviously unreal. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:53:34 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:53:34 And then, uh, and, and then a lot I just wrote with other great writers, man, I just, yeah, man, I love the, the team that's, that's surrounding me right now, dude. They're all so good. And I'm, I'm learning from all of 'em. So yeah, the new music's gonna be something I'm super excited about, which is a big feat in itself. Yeah. You know what I mean? To be that excited about stuff that, you know, I've been listening to for over a year. Speaker 1 00:53:57 That's freaking awesome, man. Well dude, thank you for coming out here and, and hanging out with us. Absolutely. Yeah. This has been a freaking pleasure. We got something Tyler. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:54:05 So it's one of my favorite segments. Speaker 1 00:54:07 Oh no, you are we doing, Speaker 3 00:54:08 We're doing Twitter. Speaker 1 00:54:09 Are you on Twitter? Speaker 3 00:54:10 Yes, he is. Speaker 1 00:54:11 Do you, do you tweet a lot? Speaker 3 00:54:13 Yes, he does. When Speaker 2 00:54:14 Was the last time I tweeted? Speaker 3 00:54:15 Uh, well, we'll answer that question later. There's some good ones in here that I found Speaker 2 00:54:19 I haven't tweeted in a long time, but yeah, hit me with it. Speaker 3 00:54:22 Bold hotdog water is the worst smell on the planet. Speaker 2 00:54:24 Oh dude, don't even get me started. Speaker 1 00:54:26 I love a dirty water dog though. Being from New York, never had, have you ever been up to New York and had a dirty water dog? I Speaker 2 00:54:32 Can't tell if you're being serious or Speaker 1 00:54:33 Not. Dirty water dog. Speaker 2 00:54:35 What do you mean dirty water? What do you, hold on? Speaker 1 00:54:37 Like, like you're like you're on the like, like a hotdog stand. Speaker 2 00:54:40 I love a hotdog stand, dude. That's what Speaker 1 00:54:42 I'm saying. So you Speaker 2 00:54:43 Smell it. Boiled hotdog water is disgusting, dude. <laugh>. It's disgusting. Speaker 1 00:54:51 I gotta, I got, I feel like I gotta go get hot dogs down, but I want to grow. Speaker 2 00:54:54 But it's fine. A hot dog is fine. Speaker 1 00:54:56 It's not the hot dog, but it's the water, water itself itself. Speaker 2 00:54:58 The water hitting there itself, bro. Speaker 1 00:55:00 See like the dirty water dog. The dirty water dogs, they just throw it right in there with the water. They just keep that same Speaker 3 00:55:05 Water. Yeah. It's not the water that's the issue. It's it's the after whenever you're done Speaker 1 00:55:09 All when you're done when the pack up. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:55:11 When, yeah, bro. It's disgusting. There's, you're not gonna sway me. I love hot dogs. Hot dogs are great. However you cook 'em. Boil Speaker 1 00:55:17 'em, ketchup or mustard. Speaker 2 00:55:19 All of the above. I don't Speaker 1 00:55:20 Care. Do you put relish on there too? You get crazy Speaker 2 00:55:23 Dude. I'll go to daddy's dog. Oh Speaker 3 00:55:25 Shit. Yeah. What's your dad? Wait, wait, wait. Have you ever been to Cory's dog house? Uhuh bro. We gotta go. Okay. Speaker 2 00:55:30 I'm, I'm in. Speaker 3 00:55:30 They have the, around the, uh, country thing. Yeah. They have at least one dog from every state. And if you do it all, you get like your name up on the wall, T-shirt, like all that kind of stuff. And then you get the hospitals, there's been people who have done Speaker 1 00:55:42 That. Then you go to the hospital. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:55:43 There's been people who have done that in less than two weeks. Speaker 2 00:55:45 That's big time. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:55:46 That's great. Daddy Speaker 3 00:55:47 50. It's like 55 dogs. Speaker 1 00:55:48 Daddy's dogs. What's your go-to? I get the Speaker 2 00:55:50 Big daddy, which is got, uh, cream cheese on it. It's got, uh, sauteed onions, it's got strips of bacon. It's got a pickle. It's got some sp some special sauce on it. And then I ask 'em to put sauerkraut on it. Speaker 1 00:56:04 You go with the crowd on top. Speaker 2 00:56:06 Dude, I addr there. Just Speaker 1 00:56:07 Flavor. Boom. Shoot. Speaker 2 00:56:08 Did it blows your mind? Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:56:10 Yeah. Anybody that Speaker 2 00:56:11 They're working at Tin Roof, they, they'll, they'll like, they'll hook you up for free. Speaker 1 00:56:14 Yeah, that's what we used to get. Being at Whiskey Row. There's not for, I mean, we had daddy's dogs actually behind Whiskey Row in the parking lot and they would hook you up too. That is the best hookup to have to have. If you know somebody that can give you a food hookup, best hookup to have Speaker 2 00:56:26 Anywhere. Yeah. Come on with Speaker 3 00:56:28 It. All right. Another food related one. Dip your Ritz crackers in applesauce. You're welcome. Yep. Speaker 2 00:56:34 Ritz, welcome Speaker 1 00:56:35 Ritz Speaker 2 00:56:35 Crackers in an apple sauce. I don't think that needs anything more. No, Speaker 3 00:56:37 I mean, I Have you ever Not, Speaker 2 00:56:39 Have you ever Speaker 3 00:56:39 Done it? No. Speaker 2 00:56:40 Have you ever done it? No, Speaker 1 00:56:42 I've never thought to. Speaker 2 00:56:43 All right. Well you're welcome, <laugh>. I mean, I can't say anything more about it. It's an incredible experience. Yeah, just go do it. All right. Get a, get a get a sleeve of wrist crackers or two cuz you're gonna eat 'em all and get some MTSS applesauce. Regular. Don't get unsweetened. Just get, just be an adult. Just get regular apples sauce, <laugh> and then just dip it in there. I mean, scoop it like, like you mean it, you know what I mean? Okay. Don't just like dip Speaker 1 00:57:06 It in like scoop. Speaker 2 00:57:07 I mean scoop it, scoop it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's great cold applesauce, dude. Oh bro. You wanna talk about it like, oh, that's a treat. All right. Speaker 1 00:57:16 Yeah. All right. We're gonna add that to the Speaker 3 00:57:18 List. It sounds like me And you also have this same issue in common. 15,000 unrailed email notifications. It's just getting broken. Good. What's your number at Speaker 2 00:57:27 What's, what's your number at Speaker 3 00:57:28 29,539? Hold on, I deleted it in July. Mine's Speaker 2 00:57:33 Not. Speaker 1 00:57:36 It's just since July. Speaker 2 00:57:38 Yeah, sure. That is a word flex though. Let's be honest. That's a weird Speaker 3 00:57:41 9,539. I delete mine every three. I'm just under Speaker 1 00:57:44 Every six months. I'm just under 7,000. I the last holy, last Speaker 2 00:57:47 Time I deleted 'em, I'm at 19,000. Speaker 1 00:57:49 Jesus Christ. Speaker 2 00:57:50 Because I deleted it in July. Speaker 3 00:57:53 I go every six months and delete everything. Speaker 2 00:57:55 Be honest. Are those all just like Yeah, Speaker 3 00:57:56 A lot of us spam Speaker 2 00:57:57 Freaking Expedia, you know what I mean? Like not Expedia, 20% Speaker 3 00:58:00 Off a lot of us Sweetwater and Guitar Center. Honestly. That's Speaker 2 00:58:03 Fair. Dude, those guys. Sweetwaters Speaker 1 00:58:04 Guitar Center, Postmates. There's Speaker 3 00:58:05 Also three emails in there. Speaker 2 00:58:07 What does that mean? Like, Speaker 3 00:58:08 Like there's three different accounts in there. Wow. Speaker 2 00:58:10 Yeah, that's commitment dude. Speaker 3 00:58:12 And then, then I have like my actual Gmail like app that has another four accounts in it. So I've got some emails, bro. What Speaker 2 00:58:20 Are you doing? You like moving weight or something? Like what? You got so many <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:58:24 You got a lot, man. Speaker 2 00:58:25 I mean, I got Speaker 3 00:58:26 One, I have the one that I send all my junk mail to. I have one that's like on my school stuff. I have one that's like all my, like a fizzle stuff. And then I have two different production emails. Speaker 2 00:58:36 I try and stay on the email, you know what I mean? Yeah. Now that I've got like people that like, I actually need to Speaker 1 00:58:41 Yeah, you respond Speaker 2 00:58:42 To. Yes. I'm, I'm on it so I'm a little better with it, you know, if I get a show offer, I definitely gotta respond to that, you know? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:58:48 See I have the one that's nothing but like Muscatine stuff. Speaker 2 00:58:51 Respect, Speaker 3 00:58:52 Cuz I don't wanna miss any of that. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:58:54 Gosh. Speaker 1 00:58:55 Mine's all just special offers. Like, I just got one that's like a special offer for like Postmates, if you use a code or something. Shit. Hey, Speaker 2 00:59:02 Some of that's actually pretty good though. Oh Speaker 1 00:59:03 Dude. Yeah. No, the Domino's ones are very helpful. Dude, Speaker 2 00:59:05 Y'all eat pokey like the poke pokey, Speaker 3 00:59:07 But I do. What, what's Speaker 2 00:59:08 Sign, what's Speaker 1 00:59:09 What's poke Poque? Speaker 3 00:59:10 It's like rice and you Speaker 2 00:59:11 Fish. So it's like a burrito ball except it's like sushi. It's like a sushi ball. Speaker 1 00:59:14 Yeah. Oh. I'd Speaker 2 00:59:16 Be down. It's so good dude. And it's actually a pretty good amount of food. Speaker 3 00:59:19 Yeah, it's a good amount of food. Really healthy. Speaker 2 00:59:21 Yeah, it is Speaker 1 00:59:22 Great. So I thought I was being a good boy and eating healthy sushi. Charlie, Charlie and uh, up Charlie. Hold on, hold up. Charlie took me and Lee, Speaker 3 00:59:29 Let's stop this train here. Your healthy sushi was fried crawl Speaker 1 00:59:32 Ass. I know. I'm gonna tell him. So Charlie took us to rock and tell, Hey, rock, rock and Roll Sushi. God. Okay. Which I don't dunno if you've ever had that. They're based outta mobile. We had it in Hattiesburg and it's all, everything's like the menus like, like old, like vinyl covers and shit. It's like a cool vibe in there. But I thought that all eating sushi, this is gonna be healthy comes out and it's like deep fried, just a stick of which I had to guess like an Alabama based sushi. Sure. Like chain. It was fucking delicious percent. I couldn't use the chopsticks. I still don't know how to use chopsticks. I don't know if I'll ever know how to use What's Speaker 2 01:00:07 Your I save the chopsticks. Speaker 3 01:00:08 What's your favorite sushi spot? Speaker 2 01:00:11 I don't know. I don't Speaker 3 01:00:12 Get What's your favorite role? Speaker 2 01:00:13 Here's my thing, dude. My problem with sushi is it's not enough food. Yeah. I can't, I can't invest in that. Yeah. You can't ask me to spend nine bucks. Speaker 3 01:00:20 See, my, my thing that I always do is I always get the, uh, hot chicken roll, the diner uhhuh before my meal. Sure. And like share it with somebody. Speaker 2 01:00:29 See, I'm not, I'm not a sharer either. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:00:31 So you order it. It's like eater though. Speaker 2 01:00:33 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I get it. Like, if you wanna say, I mean, usually Speaker 3 01:00:36 It's like my girlfriend, so you know. Yeah, Speaker 2 01:00:38 Sure. I mean my wife and I will go out, but I'm like, Hey, for real though. Like, I might just eat all this. So you might wanna get one yourself. Speaker 3 01:00:43 One of the best experiences that I had, we were in, God, it was somewhere in the Midwest and we ate this like really nice Mexican restaurant and I ordered something that was only the appetizer menu. So I'm like, all right, this is gonna be a lot of food. And it comes out and it's literally like four things that are like an inch in diameter and like that tall, like one little piece of meat on it. Speaker 2 01:01:02 Just Speaker 3 01:01:02 Like it's freaking $16 Speaker 2 01:01:03 On principle. I can't do that. Yeah, I know. That's my problem with sushi. You can't get full off of it. Yeah. So I just can't, Speaker 3 01:01:08 I feel like you can't get food off of Chinese, uh, full off of Chinese food at all. Speaker 1 01:01:12 You can get full, but then you get hungry again really quickly. You Speaker 3 01:01:15 Burp and you're hungry again. Speaker 2 01:01:16 Yeah. Well the thing with that is just the way rice condenses in your stomach. Yeah. If you, if it's, if it's a rice based meal that is, Speaker 3 01:01:22 Well even if you're gonna buffet and getting like, you know, just nothing but meat. You burp once and you, you're hungry again. Well, Speaker 2 01:01:28 I, I don't share that problem. <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:01:30 Well that's why I don't like Chinese food Speaker 1 01:01:33 <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:01:34 When somebody asks me, Hey Tyler, what do you like? I'm like, listen, just anything from the continent of Asia just except for rice, just don't Speaker 2 01:01:41 M bring around. See, I'm a huge fan of Asian food. My problem is just the, the servings hot sushi. We Speaker 1 01:01:45 Introduced me to Pent Tie, which was pretty dope fire. And it was really, really good. But fired it, it's great. It it's excellent. So Speaker 2 01:01:52 Pad tie that the dish Speaker 1 01:01:54 Some place that has it, I don't know. Speaker 2 01:01:56 So like it's called Pad T you mean that's what you're saying? Speaker 1 01:01:59 Is that No, it's not the name of the rest. I don't know if that's the name of the No, Speaker 2 01:02:02 But the dish is pad tie. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:02:03 Yeah. It's great. It's chicken something noodle. Yeah. Phenomenal. Fucking delicious. But yeah, no, they're making me hungry. We're definitely gonna have to get something after this. Oh Speaker 2 01:02:10 Yeah. Yeah. I'm freaking out. Speaker 3 01:02:11 How was the Speaker 1 01:02:11 Plan? What is it <laugh> talk about Food. Speaker 3 01:02:14 Food so we can go get food later. Speaker 1 01:02:15 So, so where, where can people find you on the socials and all that stuff? Speaker 2 01:02:18 Well, lemme make sure I get this right. Well, I know that at Speaker 3 01:02:20 Jordan Fletcher tv. For Instagram? Speaker 2 01:02:22 No, for Twitter. For Twitter, yeah. Instagram is Jordan Fletcher music. Speaker 1 01:02:25 Are you on TikTok? I Speaker 2 01:02:26 Am. Dude. Charlie just told me to get on it. He goes, yeah bro, don't be, it's Speaker 3 01:02:29 Great. Speaker 2 01:02:30 You need to follow me. Don't be a loser. Get get TikTok. I'll, I'll follow you. Yeah, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a weird one. I put one on and it got a bunch of views and then I put another one and it got like none. Same. So I don't know what the whole, the, Speaker 1 01:02:40 The algorithm is definitely something different. It's Speaker 3 01:02:42 All about when you post it too. Like literally like it is about the time of day you post it. Speaker 2 01:02:46 Oh, I didn't know that. Speaker 3 01:02:47 Even more than Instagram. Speaker 2 01:02:49 I see. I don't know, dude. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:02:50 I'm not even, I'm not even on this shit cause I know I'll get hooked on it just scrolling down the feed and there's some weird shit that pops up on there. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:02:56 I uh, Speaker 1 01:02:57 Like you see some shit and you're like, how does this pop up on my feed? Like Speaker 2 01:03:00 See I haven't gotten to the point to where I've, like, when I open up my phone, I haven't gotten to like the scrolling TikTok. Like I don't do that. Yeah. Like there are a few apps that I'm like, even if I'm on autopilot, I'll like click open like my mail or like a text or Instagram. But I haven't done that with, so I haven't gotten the opportunity to even really get like, to know the platforms Speaker 1 01:03:19 There. There's some weird shit on there. Speaker 2 01:03:20 Okay, well I'll take, Speaker 3 01:03:22 There's that you gotta use, but like, other than that, like everything else is just random. Speaker 2 01:03:27 Okay. So maybe I'll dive into, so what, I'll do some research. So Speaker 1 01:03:30 What can people find you on TikTok? Speaker 2 01:03:32 Uh, Jordan Fletcher. M u s. Speaker 1 01:03:34 Okay. Speaker 2 01:03:35 No. Yeah. Jordan. Fletcher. M u s. Speaker 1 01:03:37 Okay. Sweet. And then Instagram and Facebook. You're on there too, right? Speaker 2 01:03:40 Jordan Fletcher music. Yeah. You got me So Speaker 1 01:03:44 Nice. Fuck yeah. Oh yeah. So we always wrap this thing up with, um, the, the guest playing a song. What song you wanna play for us today. Speaker 2 01:03:53 I'm gonna play Neon. Speaker 1 01:03:54 You'll play Neon. Yeah. So what's the full story behind that? So we've, we heard that you played that at um, at our Writers' Round, which thank you for coming out and doing that. Absolutely. Anytime. That was a freaking awesome time. The fact that we were, that was so much fun that we were able to get that we were able to have Gary and Charlie up there with you and Job where you guys were doing revivals and things like that years ago to like where it is now. Right man. Where now we're all out on the road and coming back and all you guys being on stage together. That was cool man. The comedy humor of you and Gary and Charlie being next to each other by the way is just great. I think Speaker 3 01:04:22 One of my favorite things is whenever you walk into a room with Charlie and y'all just stare at each other first <laugh> Speaker 1 01:04:26 Uncomfortable amount time. The awkward, the awkward movie style stare is phenomenal. Speaker 3 01:04:31 It's like straight outta the office. Oh Speaker 2 01:04:32 Yeah. It's funny. You make really good friends getting to do that or not good friends, but I was blessed to make good friends. Yeah. That kind of closeness is either gonna push you away from somebody or bring Yeah. So yeah, I, I just happened to get some really good friends outta that whole situation. That's awesome. So I was, that was, I'd actually never played around with Gary and Charlie. Really? And for good reason dude. Cuz it's hard, it's hard to follow those guys. That was tough, dude. Those guys are great. <laugh>. Like, I was up there on stage and I was like, oh man, I've always like listened to 'em play and I was like, oh, I gotta sing now. Great. You know what I mean? But I felt like it was, I, we, we were Speaker 1 01:05:06 Kind of, no it was awesome. And that room was packed out, which that's credit to having, having some great writers there like yourself, like Gary and Charlie, like job, like everybody that played that night, it was just badass to Yeah. Speaker 2 01:05:16 And then following job too, that dude freaking, Speaker 1 01:05:18 He's up there singing Georgia. Oh. And he's just freaking belting it out and it's like, where does he get those notes from? Speaker 2 01:05:22 I'm sitting here, I'm like, well at least my guitar is kind of nice. So <laugh>, I'll be like that <laugh>. Speaker 1 01:05:27 So the story behind Neon, so you wrote that with Speaker 2 01:05:30 Reid. Isabel. Okay. I see. So that was the first right. We ever had and we sat down really Ever, ever. And it was actually his first write at 50 Egg, which is uh, Singleton's and Luke Talley's Publishing Company. Right. And so that was his first write at 50 Egg. Uh, and he came over to see Ga and we, we wrote and um, we were just kind of, we wrote in That was one of those songs where you just like ended up writing into it. Yeah. You know, um, we didn't have an idea or anything, we're just kind of jamming out and him and I kind of have a little like that r and b kind of idea. Like that's where we kind of come from. I feel like Naturally. And um, so we write wrote that song. It's a sexy song. Yeah. But that was a funny thing. Like we were in there, I was like, I was like, yeah, I wrote this song with the dude. So take that as you will <laugh>, Speaker 4 01:06:14 Which Speaker 2 01:06:15 Is good. I guess it'd be better than writing with some chick, you know, but Yeah. Yeah, dude, I I love the song. It's, it's something that I think once we, once we wrote it, it was like, uh, I, I felt like it really nailed a lot of my brand, you know, cuz up until that point, one of the biggest parts is just figuring out who you are and being able to, you know, keep doing that, you know? Speaker 1 01:06:31 Yeah. And it's something so different and, and in its own kind of style. Which, which is great because so much of this, there's so much that comes outta Nashville that does sound the same and that's a whole nother discussion for another time. Sure. Yeah. But you're like, that's what I'm talking about. Like, it's, it's just a dope song. It's a dope product where it's just a cool vibe and, and you sing the shit out of it, which is really cool. Cool. So much man. I, I appreciate that so much. So we're excited, we're excited to hear it here in a minute. Um, so while, while Jordan goes and grabs that guitar, thank you dude for, for hanging out and, and all that stuff. Um, Tyler, second episode of 2020, bro. Hell yeah. Freaking doing it. Oh yeah. And we have got another writer's round at Live Oak that's gonna be going down tomorrow. Speaker 1 01:07:09 Yes, tomorrow, tomorrow. Talking in the future. I love it. <laugh>. But thank you guys for listening. As always, make sure you follow along with Jordan. Find him on Spotify, apple Music, Amazon Google Play, all that stuff. Find him on social media, follow him on TikTok. And um, once, once those shows are all announced and stuff, make sure you guys go out there. He's a great friend of ours. He puts on one hell of a show, him and the boys. So go out there and um, make sure you get out to a show if he's coming to a town near you and make sure you follow along with us as well in the round podcast on Instagram, in the round, on Facebook, YouTube, hopefully Twitter at some point soon. All kinds of stuff. Um, make sure you follow along. And now without further ado, it's our good buddy Jordan Fletcher with me on. Y'all have been listening to the In the Round podcast. Speaker 4 01:07:50 We can see the ride here. Nine Feeding Porters to the Duke box. Playing all the ones you like. Ain't no reason to that. Knees style. Knees style. I can lead you on a dance floor. So if you ride up off your feet, that's what these arms are for. Everything fill in just ride. I'll stay just as long as you do. But we ain't got to. Cause if you won't just say the word will be gone right up the road. Won't long slipping you outta this knee. You got nothing till you got nothing. Got some candles by the bed that are waiting just to be burned. We can leave right here right now. Ain't no feelings going be her. Be her. I was saying we need to go when we do, I always wonder leave the house. If you just say the right up the road, you won't take long. Slipping you outta this knee. You got darling up. Cause we ain't gotta, so if you won't just say the word and we'll be gone right up the road. It won't take long. Slipping you outta this knee. So if you won't just say the word will be gone right up the road. Won't long slipping you out this knee. You.