Elijah Borders

Speaker 2 00:00:12 What is going on? Everyone? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast. You got Matt and Boudreaux, episode 57, um, or 58, whatever it is. We, I thought Speaker 1 00:00:23 You just literally pulled a random number out cause I'm used to Grapevine and they said 14 yesterday, <laugh>. So I thought you literally just pulled a random number Speaker 2 00:00:30 Out. Yeah, well we've, we've been doing this a minute, Boudreau. It's been a lot of fun and, uh, it's been a lot of fun with the writers' rounds. Uh, speaking of writers' rounds, gotta give shout outs to our sponsors. Real quick before we get into this Whale Tail Media, uh, our Buddy Whales, if you're getting hitched, if you're up and coming artists, you need shit done with pictures and videos. Whales and his crew, they are your team from branding and marketing to weddings and more, they got it all. Whale Tail Media. 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I think our guests today would like to be a part of that. Enjoy the fine products of that. Today we have got our good buddy, Mr. Elijah. Borders. Elijah, how the hell are you doing? Speaker 3 00:01:54 What's up man? It's been a, it's been a minute. Speaker 2 00:01:56 It's early. I know, man. Nashville time. Speaker 3 00:01:59 Yeah, it's tough. This is like, this is an uncreative time. It's Speaker 1 00:02:01 Like 6:00 AM Speaker 3 00:02:02 Yeah. Everybody does writes at 11 and we never even like write, write a lyric until like midnight, right? Or noon. I mean, Speaker 1 00:02:10 Same thing. Speaker 3 00:02:10 Same thing. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:02:11 It's how you been bud? What, um, what, what were you up to this week? Actually, I was with you this weekend. Speaker 3 00:02:15 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:02:17 This weekend was viral. That's right. Speaker 3 00:02:19 Musca on album release party. Yep. At Chuck's house. Speaker 2 00:02:22 And, uh, the, uh, the music video for Drunk. That's right. Speaker 3 00:02:25 Music video for the new song. What's Speaker 2 00:02:27 The song will be have come out by the time this podcast airs, but, um, right. Me and Boo. I mean, I, I have heard it mm-hmm. At the music video recording and dude, I love what you're doing because it's like the shit, the shit's very good. It's like, it's catchy and it gets stuck in your head, but it's not like the mainstream like cookie cutter country shit. Like your, your shit has some balls to it. It fucking rocks. Speaker 3 00:02:50 I'm trying to, you know, cuz we all grew up, especially kids my age and y'all a little bit older than me, but I grew up on like the early pop punk stuff and everything. Whenever Three Days Grace was the biggest band. Oh hell yeah. In, in the World. And not like Justin Bieber or somebody like that, you know? So trying to bring back that, that more rocky sound I guess. And that's kind of what I wanna do instead of this the contemporary country. But That's cool. That's great. Some of that stuff sounds awesome, but it's not really my style. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:03:16 So you are like many people that I've met in 2020. This, and maybe it's cuz I've started working with Gary and Chuck and I got to know this, this big old guy right here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I've met a lot of motherfuckers from Alabama. Everybody. Speaker 3 00:03:27 There's a lot of us up Speaker 2 00:03:28 Here. Everybody that I've met is either from Alabama or Georgia. Mostly Alabama though this year. And you're, you're another guy. You're from Jacksonville, right? Yeah, Speaker 3 00:03:35 From Jacksonville. But I mean, in my group this, everybody's from Georgia. I'm the only dude from Alabama, which is, I I it's really just southeast, you know, there's not many kids from Tennessee up here, which is kind of weird. Speaker 2 00:03:48 Yeah. Which is funny, you know, <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:03:49 Yeah. It's just odd. There's more people from outta state than there is in state, but Speaker 1 00:03:54 All the, uh, all the fans of the good football teams come here and drive them out. That's right. You Speaker 3 00:03:58 Knows. Right. Exactly. That's exactly right. Sorry to all my ball fans. I'm not really though. Speaker 2 00:04:03 You're, Speaker 3 00:04:04 We whooped that ass. Oh Speaker 2 00:04:05 Yeah. That's what y'all, this last, his tradition, you know, it's, Speaker 3 00:04:10 It is tradition. It is. Ever since Peyton Manning left has been tradition, Speaker 1 00:04:14 I think Alabama's win streak over Tennessee is almost legally able to drive. Speaker 3 00:04:18 It's close. We got one more year. It's 14. It's Speaker 1 00:04:22 Got his permit this year. Speaker 3 00:04:23 I can honestly say I don't remember Tennessee beating Alabama. I don't. Was Alabama fan. I remember Speaker 1 00:04:27 The scare whenever Mount Cody blocked that field goal. Speaker 3 00:04:30 Yeah. We won 12 to 10. Mount Cody. Was that 2009? That was, that was the oh eight season. Yeah, that was when won the Yeah, Speaker 2 00:04:36 That was early in the Saban days. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:04:37 It was. Yeah. That was Saban's first Speaker 3 00:04:39 Was third year. Speaker 1 00:04:40 Yeah, that was Saban's first championship Speaker 3 00:04:42 He coach. Right. He coached oh six. We lost to Louisiana. Monroe. See, the Speaker 1 00:04:45 Last game I went to, I think was oh five or oh six. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. We played Duke. Speaker 3 00:04:51 And was that, that was, uh, Speaker 1 00:04:52 That was the year that we beat Duke. 17 to 14 on the last second field goal. Geez. Speaker 2 00:04:57 How times have changed? I don't remember. Speaker 3 00:04:59 Sheila Speaker 1 00:04:59 Was the coach. Speaker 3 00:05:00 Oh, it was oh five. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh five was the last year for Sheila. Thank God. Yeah. Praise The dude was awful. Holy crap. Speaker 2 00:05:08 Yeah, it was a, that was a rough time. But being from Alabama, I mean there's a lot of y'all that are up here and it seems just like the, the local music circuit of like places where you can go to gig. There's a lot of that in Alabama. Yeah. And there's, there's a lot of you guys and girls on the, on the grind of mm-hmm. <affirmative> of doing it. So what is it about Alabama you think that all you guys are singing Sons of Bitches? Speaker 3 00:05:30 I don't know man. Uh, I think a lot of it comes from like, I know a lot of our grandparents with people that I've met up here, um, they've all got kinda like the same family background. Yeah. Either somebody in their extended family has been doing music for years or like their mama sings in church or something that gets them to do it. And I don't know if, I'm sure that's the way it is all over the place, but Speaker 1 00:05:50 I think like going to church and growing up in that and being encouraged to do it has a huge thing in like us actually doing it. Right. Speaker 3 00:05:57 Well, I mean, as southerners we sing all the time. Even if we suck. I mean, people just sing just to sing and people play guitar all the time. I mean my, my extended family are on like some bluegrass stuff. Like they've been playing bluegrass for years and years and years. Like we got this thing called the Corn Bowl back home and it's just me and all my extended family, probably like a hundred people show up and my great, I think it's great uncles, I could be wrong somebody way off in the distance that I know of. Um, his name's Paul Vin, I think it's like third, fourth cousins. Anyways, they've got a big bluegrass like group that they play with every year. Play all like, all kinds of gigs and all kinds of stuff. So I think it was more just that that ever got me into it. My mom sings. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:38 When, when did you start doing music? Speaker 3 00:06:41 Uh, I mean I started playing guitar when I was 12 and I took lessons when I was 12. Um, and then I took lessons for a little bit, got somewhat okay at guitar enough where I could like play around on it and not be terrible. And then at that point I went into high school sports took over my entire life. Speaker 2 00:07:01 What was your like go-to? Were you a football guy? Speaker 3 00:07:03 I was football and baseball. Okay. So I was a five foot seven quarterback, which that doesn't really work. So dad was like, throw this baseball son. See how that gets you. Speaker 1 00:07:11 Okay. Our quarterback in high school is five three. Oh my God. And our line averaged six foot, 300 pounds. Speaker 3 00:07:17 <laugh>. See it doesn't really work out. Yeah, it's tough for me. We did a lot of like boot plays and rollout stuff whenever I was playing, I was shocked. We played Speaker 1 00:07:24 Triple option so Speaker 3 00:07:25 Yeah. Well yeah, baseball on football and I was thinking baseball was gonna be like the thing I wanted to do. And uh, I ended up getting a, an academic scholarship to go to JSU Jacksonville State in my hometown. So I took that instead of playing Juco baseball. Cause I was like, well two years from now I'm gonna be outta baseball or I could try to go walk on somewhere and get another scholarship, play it a four year, but then I'm not gonna play in the majors. Like at that point I'd already done like the self-reflection. Yeah. I was like, it's gonna be over. So I was like, either now just bite the bullet and try to make something of myself or keep living my high school days I guess. But, uh, did that and then started playing music out. I played my first gig at a place called Pelhams in Jacksonville. Some people listen and might know where that place is. My boy's back home Pelhams was the OG spot. They had bouncers. It was like 17 years old <laugh> just cuz they were like big. What, Speaker 2 00:08:20 What kind? Like, so was it just like a hole in the wall kind of literally spot? Was it like Yeah, the place you're getting like, like pork rhymes and like greasy bar food and then just drunk people there. Was there a cage in front of the stage? Pretty, Speaker 3 00:08:33 Pretty. It's damn near close. It's uh, it's on the square in Jacksonville. It's closed down now, but it's on the square in Jacksonville and Rally Green got his start up there. Um, so I mean there's been some big time people play there. Uh, but it's, the stage is no bigger than, I don't know, eight feet by eight feet. I mean, the tiniest of stages. You can fit a whole band up there, but you're holding hands basically when you're sat. It's Speaker 1 00:08:58 Just like whenever we played that show in Virginia. Oh, okay. Speaker 2 00:09:01 Yeah. Yeah. In Speaker 1 00:09:01 The basement of that ex church that's now a venue. Speaker 2 00:09:05 Yeah, we played a former, it was, it used to be a church and then they turned like the basement turned into like a, like a town recreational center. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:09:11 I don't know if it was actually a church, but it looks like a modern church. You know how like the youth room, like has that look of like, you know, the panel ceiling and Speaker 3 00:09:18 Like I know what you're talking about. They got Speaker 1 00:09:19 Like the padded chairs and like, Speaker 3 00:09:21 It more looks like a classroom than anything. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:09:23 Yeah, yeah. That was the venue Speaker 2 00:09:24 That that was, you're saying that was the venue? It was wild. There was even Speaker 1 00:09:27 Had like the halfway wall, like as a permanent, a permanent wall. But it was like one of those, like you could put it away if you need a, a month Speaker 2 00:09:34 Or something. Right. My, my, my merch table was almost the size of the stage. It was pretty cool. Pretty Speaker 3 00:09:38 Much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's the exact same about Pelhams. And they had, they had kids that was in high school that would bounce. And so Speaker 2 00:09:43 So how old were you when you started playing there? Speaker 3 00:09:45 I think my first gig was March or February of 2018. So I've only been playing for right around two and a half years. But Speaker 2 00:09:55 So how old were you going into that old Speaker 3 00:09:58 20 I think? No, it was before my, it was before my 20th birthday. That's, so I was 19, so Speaker 2 00:10:02 19 years old going into this, this, yeah. This deep south dive bar. I mean you had grown up around it. Thoughy being from Jacksonville born. Speaker 3 00:10:09 So it was weird. One of my buddies, he got me a gig and uh, cuz I'd been asking to try to find a place to play. And then I literally just started singing enough to be confident enough to go out and play in front of people. And uh, they gave like the terrible time slot. It was like five to eight on like a Friday. So there was no one there. I'm talking no one, one dude. His name's Reid Hobbs. He showed up <laugh>. That's my boy Reid, if you're listening, Speaker 1 00:10:36 Like, Speaker 3 00:10:36 Uh, thank you homie. I appreciate it. <laugh>, he showed up cuz I put on my Instagram and I've never, never ever done anything like, mentioned anything about music on my Instagram and just rambling, threw up like a story that said playing poems today, five day y'all come see me or whatever. No one showed up, one person. And he stayed for like 20 minutes and he left <laugh>, but he came, he came. That's all that matters. So I played for three hours. I didn't know what I was doing. I, I think I got paid like 50 bucks and drank five or six beers and I was like, wow, this is awesome. They paid for my beer. I got to like, get the nerves out in front of no one. I was just singing to the bartenders and they gave me 50 bucks. So I was like, I need to start doing this More Speaker 1 00:11:15 Like the scene out of Friday Night Lights. Yeah. Whenever he plays with that cover band the first time. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:21 <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:11:21 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But yeah, I butt's been grinding ever since, I guess. Not really know what I'm doing. I'm just doing it. Trying to Speaker 2 00:11:29 Well, well I would say you're off, you're off to a pretty good start Speaker 3 00:11:31 Then. Well thanks man, I appreciate it. Speaker 2 00:11:32 I mean, I would not have guessed you've only been doing it two and a half years. Speaker 3 00:11:35 Yes. It hasn't been long at all. Speaker 2 00:11:36 You about to have what your, your your, you just dropped your what would be drunk, your third Speaker 3 00:11:40 Song. Right. Third one comes out 10 30. What's Speaker 2 00:11:43 The process been like for you as far as releasing music? Like, who are you working with? What do you got going on with Speaker 3 00:11:48 All that? Uh, I mean it hasn't really been like a schedule. I've just been like, oh, I got like 1500 bucks here, let's just go spend on the song. But I've been using my guy Brad Wagner, um, and he's been my producer for all three of my singles. Good Speaker 2 00:12:02 Dude. Oh God. He's, he's, he's a hell of a guy Big. I Speaker 3 00:12:04 Love Brad. Speaker 2 00:12:05 Big dude. You and him together. You're both very big on like the body. He's a temple fitness shit. <laugh> and, and like Speaker 3 00:12:11 He's gonna love this. Speaker 2 00:12:12 Yeah, he's he's a good, he's a good dude. How'd you get linked up with him? Because I, I know, I know he's connected with the Langston camp. He's from Georgia, correct? Speaker 3 00:12:18 Yeah, yeah. He's from Georgia. I think he's from like right outside of Atlanta. I could be wrong though, but he plays guitar for John. Um, and Noah Hicks is actually the one who got me hooked up with him. He did his first singing with Brad that raising the radio song. Yeah. Um, and I think Dylan Marlowe hooked Noah up, but I could be wrong. I don't know. All I know is Noah was, I was looking for a guy to start doing my music and Noah was like, well I'm using this guy named Brad, he's doing my last one. I was like, well, send me what he did. How's it sound? It sounded great. Yeah. Um, and literally just like in his bedroom apartment with a laptop and two speakers and he is does everything in there. The dude's a wizard. Um, but did my first one with him come out good. And then did, took like a year until I put out my second one. I just put up my second one in July. And, uh, like that creed country that you always Speaker 2 00:13:11 Said. Yeah. Were were you really mine? Yeah, yeah, Speaker 3 00:13:13 Yeah. Uh, but yeah, been going with Brad and he kind of, he's from a rock background. Like he used to be in a metal band. I think he was in a Popp punk band too. And yeah, he plays for John and I don't know if you've ever seen John live. Yeah. It's Speaker 2 00:13:26 It's, it's more, it's more of a rockier ed show. It Speaker 3 00:13:29 Is. Yeah. Yeah. And John's more of a rockier guy and all of his band is just straight metal guys. Yeah. So like, they love whenever they, whenever they just jam out on stage, they just straight up hard, heavy rock hard Speaker 2 00:13:39 Rock. Which I'm guessing is how you are with your band if I had to guess. Oh yeah. Yeah. We haven't had the pleasure we've seen yet rounds and we've seen you do like the acoustic cover thing here in town. Right. Things like that. I haven't seen a full band. Eja Borderer show. Speaker 3 00:13:52 Yeah, man, you gotta you gotta come hang. Um, I Speaker 2 00:13:54 Want to be in like a room that's like the size of this little dungeon studio that we're recording in like, like a low ceiling and just see you freaking rocking out. Dude. Dude, I'd love to. I can imagine. Speaker 3 00:14:04 You need to set up a, uh, a full band thing somewhere. Dude, Speaker 2 00:14:06 If we did a full band showcase, that'd be, I think that'd be danger. That'd be wild. Speaker 3 00:14:09 That would be nuts. Speaker 2 00:14:11 Bojo Bojo runs sound. I'll sell t-shirts. Speaker 3 00:14:13 It'll be great. Dude. Y'all did it like the basement or something? Dude, Speaker 2 00:14:16 That'd be sick. Speaker 3 00:14:17 Exit in. That'd be Speaker 2 00:14:19 Showcased. Wild Speaker 3 00:14:19 Man. That'd be ridiculous. Sell some tickets, dude. Y'all, y'all kill it for the rounds. We Speaker 2 00:14:23 Had a good one last last night. Dude, we've, we've had you on those. So talking about writer's rounds in Nashville, how did you end up here in Nashville? Because there's always somebody, I feel like there's always a fr having a friend in town first that's kind of bugging the shit outta you. Like, hey man, you should do it. Hey man, you gotta get here. That's Speaker 3 00:14:39 Kind of what it was. Um, so I just, Noah was the first guy that I ever met in music. Um, Speaker 2 00:14:46 How'd you get linked up with him? So, because I know he's a Carrollton Georgia boy, so he's western Georgia, pretty much Alabama. Speaker 3 00:14:52 Right. This is, uh, he loves telling the story for some reason there's, when it was 2018 and I'd known, I knew no one in music at all and I was just trying to get together with some guys and like, I don't know, I don't even know how to write songs or anything. I don't know how to do that right now, but you know, a lot less back then. And uh, there was a girl that I knew her name was, uh, Carrigan and she went to like a dance or something with Noah and I'd heard Noah on Instagram or whatever just cuz I was trying to get into the music stuff and his name popped up. And uh, I was like, I was like, Hey Carrigan, you think you could like link us up together? Is there any way that I could like meet him or whatever And like, I don't know, jam or play a show or I don't know, try to write a song or something. And she was like, yeah. So Noah texted me and we play, he, he invited me to come play this like, uh, this show with him in Boaz, I think it Speaker 2 00:15:44 Was in Boas, Boaz Baby. Speaker 3 00:15:46 So I cannot remember the name of the place. Noah probably remembers it. Um, but it was like an arcade. No kidding. It was an arc. You walk in and it's an arcade in the bottom and there's like, it's literally like a kid's arcade place and they had like a concession stand and you go up the stairs and there's a spot for a stage or whatever. And Noah had a gig over there and he asked me to play. I was nervous as shit never play. That was the first. That was, that was actually my first time playing out The Pelhams thing was my first actual like headlining gig or whatever. But uh, never as shit butchered it butchered like three songs. No, it was like, he was like lying to me. He was like, yeah man, sounded good. Sounded terrible, awful. <laugh> awful. Which back then he sounded terrible too. No, I love you buddy. But <laugh>, we all sounded terrible. Speaker 2 00:16:34 Noah just some kids we really were just, we really were trying to do it. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:16:38 But Noah had so much more confidence. Noah's been, Noah had been doing this for like, I don't know, two or three years before then he's been doing it ever since high school I think. Um, but played that, me and Noah kinda lost contact for a little bit and then finally come back. I can't remember what we, I think we ended up meeting each other again at the bar somewhere. I have not. Uh, but anyways, from then on, just best friends and we were like, we'd ride over FaceTime, um, back when I was living in Jacksonville, he was living in Carrollton and uh, he ended up moving up here in January. Speaker 2 00:17:12 So you were doing like the Zoom virtual writing before it was cool. Like before it was the thing you had. Exactly. Okay. We'll get into, we'll get into Zoom innovators, we'll get into Zoom writing in a little bit. Cause I wanna get your thoughts on that. So I hate it with that story. It's terrible. Speaker 3 00:17:24 Um, that's my thoughts. It sucks. Everybody hates it. It's Speaker 2 00:17:27 Terrible. Even though you have the bat, even though you used to do the FaceTime stuff or, Speaker 3 00:17:30 Well those suck too. Speaker 2 00:17:31 Oh. So it was just, Speaker 3 00:17:32 I think we wrote one song and I don't know, probably 40 or 50 tries doing it. Oh Speaker 2 00:17:35 Geez. Okay. Speaker 3 00:17:36 Yeah, it was awful. Plus I have terrible service at my house, so Noah would always be like eight bit pixel lady Mancraft, Speaker 2 00:17:42 Look at thing everybody does in Alabama. It's trying to connect Jacksonville, Alabama to Carrollton, Georgia to Speaker 3 00:17:47 Two of the worst reception places in all over the world. Yeah. And trying to like bring the audio and the video with it. It's not working <laugh>. Uh, but yeah. And then I come up here, uh, this was in 2019 and me and Noah were supposed to write, actually me, Noah and Dylan were supposed to write. That was gonna be my first co-write in town. And uh, at this point Dylan already, I think, I don't think Dylan was signed yet, but he was in talks to play it again and Noah was starting to get a little name for himself. So, uh, we come up and then we wrote that n e song Noah's second to last thing while he put out. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:23 Which is which is a damn smash by the way. Exactly. That. That's a freaking I Speaker 3 00:18:27 Know that song. Speaker 2 00:18:27 That's a great Speaker 3 00:18:28 Song. I love that song. Um, that's when I met Tyler Chambers. He come in, he sat in on the right with us and he wrote it with us. Um, and then that's how I just kind of come become friends with those guys. Noah moves up in January, I see him doing all this fun stuff and I'm like, well shit dude, if I'm gonna really do this, like I need to be up there. So I talked to my mom and my dad and they were like, probably not the best idea right now with a pandemic. And I was like, well I'm getting unemployment. I got a little bit more money than usual. Everybody had more money than usual. Yeah. You know, you're getting like 750 bucks every week Yeah. For not doing anything. And just because everybody's getting sick, it's great. Yeah. Well not great cause everybody's getting sick, but great for the money <laugh>. Yeah. You know what I'm Speaker 2 00:19:12 Saying? Yeah, absolutely. Speaker 3 00:19:13 But uh, so I just, I had a bunch of extra money and I was like, look, I need, I just need to do it cuz if I just keep talking about it, I'm not gonna do it. So I just found the house called Wells. Hey man, we haven't really talked before, but you need a roommate. He was like, yeah, need a roommate. So Speaker 2 00:19:27 Is that how you first met? Like did you really know Brian and Wells? I didn't know Brian. I Speaker 3 00:19:31 Didn't really know Brian. I met Brian in February. Y'all did a round and I come up, I can't remember what I was doing. I think I was just writing. Uh, but I come up, I think I wrote with Chambers, that's what it was. And that's when we wrote, it Ain't Me or Not Ame, but where you in mine After the Round we come back to Tyler's place and wrote that song. Speaker 2 00:19:49 Hell yeah, dude. Love hearing that. Speaker 3 00:19:51 Yeah, we uh, so met Brian that night. We didn't really talk. I was just like, Hey man, Elijah, hey, what's up dude, Brian? No. Like yeah, we know each other cuz of Instagram or whatever and mutual friends, but we never talked before. So looking for a roommate called Wells was like, Hey man, I think you, if I remember right, you were looking for a roommate, are you still looking for a roommate to move to Nashville or are you wanting to remove right now? And he was like, yeah, you, you need a roommate? And I was like, yeah, let's do it. So we had a third and uh, he couldn't move at the same time we did, you know, Justin Holt? Speaker 2 00:20:25 Oh no shit. Speaker 3 00:20:26 Yeah. So me and Justin, wow. Me and Justin knew each other beforehand. Speaker 2 00:20:29 Old Jimmy. Old Jimmy. Speaker 3 00:20:30 Oh, Jimmy boy. That's right. <laugh>. Jimmy. Uh, me and him knew each other beforehand, so we were gonna, he actually hit me up first to move up here and, uh, he he couldn't move at the same time that Wells could. Yeah. Or that I wanted to. So that didn't really work out with him living with us, but I'm glad he is up here now. He was, he moved anyways, which is great. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:20:49 There's like we were talking about with Alabama and he's another guy. I mean, you and him. You're how old? You're 20, 22. You're 22. Yeah, he's right around that age. Speaker 3 00:20:57 I think he's, I think he's 22. He might be 23. He might be a year older than that. Speaker 2 00:21:00 So, but there's all you guys and girls from Alabama that have just been grinding the, the most barbecues, the Zy goes, I'm Speaker 3 00:21:06 Playing their Friday. The, Speaker 2 00:21:07 The the Speaker 3 00:21:08 The Speaker 2 00:21:09 Gts. Yeah. Gt Skybar Skybar. Like, y'all have just been doing the circuit range two 13 or whatever. Like there's all those bandages has this builtin circuit. It just, Speaker 3 00:21:18 It's cool. Pumps people out. Um, yeah, the the the college bar scene in Bama is, is great. It's, it's, Speaker 2 00:21:23 It's arguably maybe one of the best in the country. Speaker 3 00:21:26 It's, it's really good. And Georgia's kinda the same way. Georgia and Bama are really great with college bar scenes now. Georgia's more like venue type of feel. Bama is more bar like. I only, I can only think of like three or four venues in Bama that Yeah. Know guys like Musk and I can play, you know. Yeah. With Iron City, soul Kitchen, I dunno, maybe Sidetracks. Speaker 1 00:21:46 We played Druid Speaker 2 00:21:48 City. Druid City in T Town or Burman Street. Yep. And then there's the, um, there's the, Speaker 1 00:21:53 There's that new place in Huntsville. The, uh, Morriss Speaker 3 00:21:55 Sidetracks Oh, Morris Music Hall. Yeah. Morris Speaker 1 00:21:57 Music Hall. We played that right before Covid. And that place, that Speaker 3 00:22:00 Place is cool. Yeah. That's a cool spot. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:22:01 But, but it's, but it's so by, by, by building your scene like that. Cuz like in New York and New Jersey, granted there ain't a lot of country singers coming outta New York and New Jersey where I'm from. There's a few people that do it or whatever, but like, we don't have, like, with us it's like Speaker 3 00:22:15 Big, it's tough to gig. Well Speaker 2 00:22:16 It's big ass venues. You don't have Speaker 3 00:22:18 Right. You don't have small, small spots to, you've got, Speaker 2 00:22:21 If you're a dj it's a little bit easier. But I feel like by doing that it cre it's, it it's able to create a breeding ground for all the guys and girls coming outta Georgia. All the guys coming out of Alabama. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then Mississippi folks will come over. There's stuff to do in mi there's stuff for y'all to play in Mississippi every now and then. Speaker 3 00:22:36 Well, seeing live shows and like going out and watching other guys do it is what gives confidence to some people that didn't know if they like, could do it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like that's what got me into it, was watching guys like Muscadine or guys like John Langston or even Riley Green, just watching them play and like, wow, if they can do it, I can, I know I can do it. Like if they have the confidence to go up there and sing in front of these people, I I'm, I should be able to get that confidence outta myself considering that's what I wanted to want to do. Yeah. You know, like if you don't really wanna do it, then it's not gonna spark any interest in you or whatever. But, uh, I think probably what kicked it off was like musket on played at Brothers Bar in Jacksonville. This was, this was why they still had, Gary was playing acoustic and Gary or Charlie was playing acoustic. I think they had Zol playing like that. Oh, the Speaker 2 00:23:24 Old Trio days. The old Speaker 3 00:23:26 Trio days Speaker 2 00:23:26 Driving, driving around in the Avalanche. Yeah. I Speaker 3 00:23:29 Think this was like 2017 maybe. Maybe fall 16. Maybe fall 16. And uh, I went to that show and just, I mean they sold out Brothers. I think they had like 250 people there. It was crazy. They really pushed their capacity on that place and that place is tiny. Um, but I think watching them play, I was like, well I've been wanting do this for a while. Maybe I should like look into it and start really making it serious now. But, uh, anyways, meeting Brian and uh, we just called Brian afterwards since Justin couldn't move in with us. And um, Wells was like, yeah, I know this guy named Brian. He can probably move in with us. So I guess rest is history and then it's been Speaker 2 00:24:12 Living and now you guys got 5 24 in Hermitage. 5 24 Speaker 3 00:24:16 Studios baby. It's, it's, Speaker 2 00:24:17 It's, isn't it cool just, I mean, I know this is the first place you've lived in Nashville mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But to live with some folks that are also doing the music thing or involved in entertainment, like Speaker 3 00:24:27 Yeah. That's, that's the coolest thing about Nashville. That's what I say every time that that question comes up is like, like what the coolest part about being up here is. It's just even y'all, y'all are not in the, I mean, you are a little bit but not really into the actual music, but more into the entertainment industry about the music. Yeah. And it's still the same thing. Like, we're all up here trying to better ourselves and there's no one, no one's sitting on their ass being lazy. Yeah. And if you are, you're gonna get weed out. It Speaker 2 00:24:55 Shows. Shows. Oh my God. It shows man. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:24:57 You won't be up here for long shows. You won't be up if you're in it for the wrong reasons. You won't be up for long. So Speaker 2 00:25:02 What, what are the right reasons you think Speaker 3 00:25:05 Not for money and not for Instagram followers and not for fame. If you're up here really to write songs and that's what you like to do. Or if you're up here really to make a name for yourself when it comes to podcasts, when it comes to making rounds, when it comes to radio, anything outside of the actual music itself. If you're up here for the right reasons, which is not fame, I'm, I don't know what the right reasons are. This could be so different for somebody. But the wrong reason is for money and for people to know who you are should not be at the forefront of your, your music. Cuz if, if that's what it is, you're not gonna put all your time into what makes you that. Yeah. Which is the music. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:25:43 No, for sure. And that's something, I mean, I'm sure Tyler can speak on a little bit more. He's been up here now, so I, I just hit two years of being here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, I'm pretty, I'm fairly recent. You said you moved what? July? Speaker 3 00:25:52 I mean three months ago. Three Speaker 2 00:25:53 Months, right. So Yeah. And then Bore's been here seven years. Yeah. So like all kind of different levels, but like that's mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean, you can kind of tell when someone's in it for the wrong reasons and like Yeah. Realness is such a thing in town. Speaker 1 00:26:05 Yeah, it is. And you know, like you can easily weed out like who's here because they like, there's people that they have to do music. Speaker 3 00:26:14 Right. Like it's in their blood. Speaker 1 00:26:16 Yeah. Like I feel like for me, like I have to have that creative outlet, whether it's riding running hundred percent sound, playing guitar. Right. Whatever it is, I have to do it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like if I'm not doing that, then there's, you know, mentally and everything else. There's nothing that you everything else Speaker 3 00:26:29 To do. Speaker 1 00:26:30 Yeah. Yeah. So like, you know, there's those people and then there's the people, you know, uh, they, they come up here and they do it because they wanna be a rock star or because, you know, they wanna make a ton of money mm-hmm. <affirmative> or they just wanna pick up chicks. Speaker 3 00:26:44 Well see, it's so easy to think Speaker 1 00:26:45 That back and those people, those people burn out so fast. Speaker 3 00:26:48 Yeah. And it's so easy to think that, and even people that are in it for the right reasons, those things are still in the back of your mind. Oh yeah. You know, whenever you do it, like you, you, the whole, the goal is to be someone as a Luke Bryan, you know, as a Dustin Lanch, that's Thomas Red. That's the goal because you get to have all those great things money. Right. People know who you are. You're set up for your whole life. But to get there, you have to do what those guys did. Well Speaker 2 00:27:13 You gotta pay your dues. Absolutely. You gotta pay. Speaker 1 00:27:15 And this town is very much a, you gotta pay your dues and if you're not, we're gonna home will you real quick and you're gonna pay 'em Yeah. Type Speaker 3 00:27:21 Of place. I mean, people love to talk shit about the bigger guys and you know, maybe it's not their music's not your cup of tea Yeah. Or whatever. And you think that maybe they didn't go through the same thing you did now, but a 99.9% of these guys did the exact same thing. I know you look at, especially country guys, you look at Speaker 2 00:27:35 A, you look at a Luke Bryan, you know how many shows that guy probably played at? What was the Blue Room dude's? Ridiculous. Yeah. Like how many times he went through Statesboro, how many times? Speaker 3 00:27:43 Capital City, Speaker 2 00:27:44 Athens like crazy Speaker 3 00:27:45 That man. Speaker 2 00:27:46 Yep. And Alde did Speaker 3 00:27:47 Murdered the bar scene. Brantley Speaker 2 00:27:48 Did it. Cordy Smith Speaker 3 00:27:50 Did it. Speaker 2 00:27:50 Absolutely. Um, on the girl's side, I mean you've got like, um, you've got like Laney Wilson for example mm-hmm. <affirmative>, she's been up in town for a long time and she's, she had, she did that circuit like Yeah. There's so many people. Musk on Riley. Like, there's something to be said and it's cool now because this group that's coming up right now and starting to come more to the forefront mm-hmm. <affirmative> of like the big, getting up to that top tier. Right. Um, is people that have done that grinding thing and then y'all are kind of the group right behind them mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which is what's really cool to watch. Speaker 3 00:28:18 We just, we, we see these guys do it. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:28:20 Right. Speaker 3 00:28:21 We're just, it's setting great examples for us. Speaker 2 00:28:22 Like Yeah. You're you're building the culture Speaker 1 00:28:25 Exactly. Of those things too. It's like they say Nashville's a 10 year town mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it's 10 years for people outside of town to know who you are in town. Speaker 3 00:28:32 Absolutely. Like, Speaker 1 00:28:33 You know, because if you're not playing out and if you're not doing the grind, if you're not going home and playing the Alabama and the Georgia and the North, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, like if you're not playing the surrounding areas and you're not doing these little bar gigs mm-hmm. <affirmative> where you show up and there's three people there like nobody else, nobody on the west coast, nobody in the northeast will ever figure out who you are. That's Speaker 3 00:28:56 Absolutely true. And I mean, it's tough, you know, playing these bar gigs or whatever cuz I mean, I'm, I've got a bad habit of this. I I'm a very impatient person. So Speaker 2 00:29:08 Same like, Speaker 3 00:29:09 Wanting everything that you're working for to be now I have such a terrible habit about wanting that or tr thinking about that so much. Um, but I think the more I think about it, the more I like, like you appreciate the process and like everything you go through. Cuz even if, you know, tomorrow the whole music industry shuts down and none of us can do what we, what we used to do. I'm still gonna be happy with the grind and the, and the process and how much fun I've had beforehand. Like I'd, I'd rather be doing nothing else. I can't think of one thing that I'd be doing except this right now. You know? And just having the patience to, to go play the bar gigs in front of three people or you know, some nights you get to play bar gigs in front of, you know, 300 people. Yeah. What's been, and it's so much fun. Speaker 2 00:29:58 What's been the moment for you where you were on stage and you were like, oh shit. Like, what's like one of the bigger crowds you played for or a place that ended up being really cool? I know you've been out, you've been out to the Midwest a little bit, right? Speaker 3 00:30:08 No, not yet. Uhuh. Speaker 2 00:30:09 Okay. Not yet. I wasn't sure if you had gone out there. I'm trying to remember who went out there with, um, with Nick. Speaker 3 00:30:15 That was Noah and Tyler. Oh, Speaker 2 00:30:17 Noah and Tyler. Okay. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I knew it was so Yeah. Get everybody, like you guys are all out doing so much. I get, I get everybody a little bit confused sometimes. Right. But for you, what, what's a, what's a, what's like a show memory you Speaker 3 00:30:27 Have? I think the coolest thing that I remember doing, um, and I always bring up Noah cuz you know, I love that dude, Speaker 2 00:30:34 You, you guys are day one boys. Oh. Speaker 3 00:30:35 You know? Oh yeah. Absolutely. I love him. Uh, but he played, we played like a, a party on the farm thing. You ever hear about that? Yeah. Yeah. What, what's his Noah put on party on the farm back in Carrollton. And uh, it was just like a big stage out in the middle of a field. I think we had like 1200 people show up. No. Freaking ridiculous. Yeah. And Noah, Noah just killed it with that. I mean, but he asked me to open up for him. Of course I said yes, like I'd love to. And uh, we were playing and I got to my song, my, my first single ever put out. And I mean, it wasn't the whole crowd, it wasn't like even quarter of the crowd, but they'll scene visibly saw people singing like the song back to him. And I was like, wow, that's cool as shit. Speaker 3 00:31:18 Like I'd never thought that a song that I'd wrote by myself at like midnight in my bedroom, people would like, like and sing back. And like looking back on it now, it's not nowhere near one of the best songs that I've ever written, you know. But just watching people have fun when I'm on stage singing a song out in front of me. I even made an Instagram post about it whenever Covid hit and I was like, um, especially when all that stuff got taken away. Like you don't realize how much you miss it until you can't do it anymore. Oh yeah. You know, Speaker 2 00:31:48 We definitely feel that. Yeah, absolutely. Right. Speaker 3 00:31:50 And you know, Bora, you probably feel like this, I don't know if since you haven't played like on stage Oh Speaker 2 00:31:55 Never. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:31:56 <laugh>. It's like whenever I played sports, like that adrenaline feeling that you feel, you get it whenever you're deer hunting, like buck fever. People call it something Speaker 2 00:32:07 Matt doesn't know about either. <laugh> Hey, I, Speaker 3 00:32:10 We gotta take you hunting. Speaker 2 00:32:11 See? I, yeah. Oh yeah. We'll we'll get into that. There are bets over who can get me My first deer Chad Bishop I think is what Chad Bishop Speaker 3 00:32:18 Probably. Speaker 2 00:32:18 Yeah. It'd be Chad Bishop or Gary Stanton. I think you're a close third. Speaker 3 00:32:21 It, it won't be Tyler because that, that man's missed more deer this year. Year than Speaker 2 00:32:24 Chambers has had a rough I heard Chambers. I I Speaker 3 00:32:27 Lived here. Chambers is not having fun right now. Speaker 2 00:32:29 Have you gone out, have you gone out with him this year? Speaker 3 00:32:32 No, I, whenever I go back, cuz I'm going back to vote, uh, this first next week back home and uh, I'm bringing up climate stance. We'll go, we'll go hunt like around November. But, uh, Speaker 2 00:32:42 I would, I would just, Speaker 3 00:32:42 That poor guy, I Speaker 2 00:32:43 Would, I would How funny would that be? You, you would Tyler still hasn't killed the deer yet, dude, that that would be y'all. Y'all bring me out there. I have my little mo The man Speaker 1 00:32:50 Who loaded a shotgun backwards killed the deer Speaker 2 00:32:53 Man. The man I am the reason that the gun control exists in this country. Um, and, and i, I go out there and smoke one my while chamber chambers helps me smoke one before Speaker 1 00:33:05 He gonna have to sit in those two eight hour classes for Hunter Safety. Whenever you're a kid, Speaker 2 00:33:10 All I'll do is I'll just listen. I won't, I won't bring any of the THC and uh, I'll just bring like a tub of stokers and just sit there for eight hours. There you Speaker 3 00:33:18 Go. Perfect. Speaker 2 00:33:18 That probably sounds what you need to do. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:21 The, yeah, I mean, poor chambers, he, uh, <laugh>, I remember he called me and uh, he was just like, we just, I shoot the shit all the time, just call each other. And uh, he called me and he was like, Hey man, what's up? And I was like, oh, there's nothing chilling at the house. He was like, all right dude, I'm mad. I'm like, why? He's like, dude, I'm so upset. You wanna come to the house? And I was like, yeah. Oh my God, what's wrong? So I get to the house and we were supposed to finish the song anyways, Speaker 2 00:33:48 And, and his house is kind of out there too. Speaker 3 00:33:51 It's right over there beside me. No, no, no. Not in Dixon anymore. Oh, this was, this Speaker 2 00:33:54 Was when this is back come. This is back. Speaker 3 00:33:55 All right. Yeah. So I walk in and I bring my guitar. He was gonna finish the song anyways. And like, he's like visibly upset and I'm like, dude, are you okay? Tell me what's going on. He was like, bro, I spooked to deer. Like big old nine point blew at me run off. And I'm like, okay, all right. No one's dead <laugh>, no one's dead. No one died. Speaker 2 00:34:20 No, but I wish that deer was Speaker 3 00:34:21 <laugh>. Right, exactly. And he's like, dude, no. And he, he's like, what do you think this is much more serious than something like that? And you know, and then he's like freaking out. He tells me this whole big story about these deer things or what, uh, speaking that nine point, I'm like, dude, I feel that a hundred percent kids had no luck this year. I don't think he's killed one. I may be wrong, but I'm just sitting here on blast. I haven't seen, Speaker 2 00:34:43 I haven't seen, I haven't. Yeah. That's like how Speaker 3 00:34:45 Chambers, I Speaker 2 00:34:46 Like rapper rappers will talk shit about like girls and cars and like grills and shit. Country boys talk shit about who smoked a deer, a Turkey, <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:34:55 It's all right Chambers. We'll get you one. Same Speaker 2 00:34:56 Man. I haven't seen one on Instagram from him. So that's how I go. That's how I know who's got one. Yeah. Cause everybody posts a picture Speaker 3 00:35:02 And then, then Gary kills one on his, on his spot before he does. And Chambers had to help him pull it out. Speaker 2 00:35:07 <laugh> disrespect Speaker 3 00:35:09 Chambers. When this, when this podcast drops, I, I'll call you so you skip to the part of this part so you listen to it. Speaker 2 00:35:15 Oh man. How'd you, so for you, have there been, has there been somebody that's been like kinda like a mentor to you or somebody that's kinda helped you with navigating through town that's kinda like an OG in town or something like that? Speaker 3 00:35:26 Uh, I think Chambers helped me out a lot. Um, like when, in the early days before I moved up here, I used to Cra and Noah too. Um, Dylan as well. Um, they kind of, I used, I'd crash on Noah's couch before I moved up here. Like in spring. You Speaker 2 00:35:43 Haven't lived in Nashville until you've crashed on a couch. Speaker 3 00:35:45 Very true. For Speaker 2 00:35:46 Like a week or two at a time. And Speaker 3 00:35:48 Me and Wells would share that couch if Wells is in town. Like, we'd flop between staying at Chambers house and Noah's house. We don't all sleep on the same couch. Um, but that red couch in Noah's living room, that's the OG spot. Yeah. Or the 5 24 house with me and well, <laugh>. Uh, but yeah, Noah helped me out a lot. Chambers helped me out a lot. Chambers helped me out a lot with like songwriting, what to say, how to say it. Um, and just like being you whenever you write cuz Chambers is chambers through and through. Yes. Yeah. Oh my God. Like he's, he won't be anybody but himself, you know? And uh, Noah's the same way and so has Dylan. So having buddies that's been up here for a while has helped tremendously instead of just moving like blind, you know. And I'm just grateful to be in the group that I am. And, uh, they think I'm cool enough to hang out with and they like my music enough to not tell 'em to eat shit and go away. So <laugh>, you Speaker 2 00:36:40 Know, that's how you know you got some friends, man. And Yeah. Folks that hunt together, fish together, play, play kickball together. Yeah. Go out, get a little drunk together. That's true. Speaker 3 00:36:49 I mean, I didn't earn any of the, any of the guys that I'm in the group with. I Speaker 2 00:36:52 Just, some sometimes take an hour and a half to start a fire. Shout out to our buddy Brian Fuller in the backyard. Dude. <laugh>. God we have, I mean we, we have some good, we have some. I enjoy hanging out with all you guys. Speaker 3 00:37:02 Poor O'Brien man. It took him a hot minute. At least I had my brother up the next week. Dude. Speaker 2 00:37:07 I love your brother. Your brother. Shout out. Shout out your brother. Shout Speaker 3 00:37:10 Out. Shout out to my boy Ethan. Dude, Speaker 2 00:37:12 You two together are like such a wild card situation. Like if I ever get ready to have a bachelor party, I just want you two there just to see what kind of shit we get into <laugh> because I'm, it's like thing one and thing two and y'all just get after we Speaker 3 00:37:23 We're the same person. Exactly Speaker 2 00:37:25 The same person. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:37:26 And I don't see it. Ethan don't see it either. We don't see how similar we are, but everybody else is like, dude, you look just like your little brother and he sounds just like you and he does everything Speaker 2 00:37:34 Like you and you're both nice guys. You give the shirt off your back and you, you always got got our backs if we need Speaker 3 00:37:39 Just says southern Speaker 2 00:37:40 Charm, y'all just funny as fuck when you two get going, we get a couple beers in you. Y'all, y'all, y'all. It's like, it's it's awesome. It's kind of, kind of like, kind of reminds me of like Boudreau and Nick a little bit. Cause like Nick shivers when you two are together. Yeah. Yeah. There's just some kind of like chemistry with like Right, right. Your back homeboy for you, it happens to be your brother, which is cool. Yeah. And he's going into the service, right? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:37:57 He's, he just now joined the National Guard. Hell yeah. So he's gonna be going to, uh, to basic after the first of the year. So congratulations his buddy, you know, I love you. Oh yeah. And that'll set him up for years going National Guard's. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, Ethan started a fire within like, I don't know, three minutes. How'd it going? Ethan is a pyro maniac. Not Speaker 2 00:38:17 Kidding. Oh dude, I, I'm right there with him. I wanna exp what do you have a good 4th of July story? I mean, in Bama you guys probably shoot off fireworks year round <laugh>. So we Speaker 3 00:38:25 Don't, so dad never bought fireworks. Um, but I do remember a buddy of mine having a firecracker in his hand and then not throwing it for some reason and it just blew up. It didn't hurt him. J Speaker 2 00:38:37 Jason, Pierre Paul in it Speaker 3 00:38:39 Almost. Yeah. It, for some reason it didn't hurt him, but I don't know why he did that. Yeah. We were never really, the thing about Alabama, or at least where I grew up at, we couldn't get the money to spend on fireworks <laugh>. We'd just all go out and in a field or somewhere. So I build a fire and watch somebody else's fireworks. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:38:56 <laugh>. And Speaker 3 00:38:57 $8, 15 pack of daddies is a whole lot cheaper than like 200 bucks worth of fireworks. It's over in like, I don't know, 15 seconds. Speaker 1 00:39:04 So we had a neighbor back home. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And he was like Vietnam vet. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like certified, like, Speaker 2 00:39:12 Like Lieutenant Dan. Shit Speaker 1 00:39:14 Like would drink Thursday through Sunday. You just didn't go mess with them. And every year they would start shooting off fireworks and it was me and the guy across the street. It was a little bit older than me, but we were like, we hung out all the time and stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and this guy would call us over. We, it was like clockwork. Yeah. Every time. Either 4th of July or New Year's, about 8, 8 30. Yeah. Y'all boys want these fireworks. I'm, I'm a little too drunk to shoot 'em off. I can't, I can't do this anymore. I fuck. I love that dude. I, when I bend over, I fall now so I can't shoot him off. Speaker 3 00:39:50 <laugh> dude, that's Alabama. A hundred Speaker 1 00:39:51 Percent. And so he would literally hand us at least one, if not two big trashcans full of fireworks. Oh my God. Like we'd have fireworks for a week. I was like maybe 13, 14, 15, 15. Speaker 3 00:40:03 That was not a good time to give somebody from Alabama fireworks. Listen at 14 years old, listen dude, you just now hit the puberty. You got all this fresh testosterone on Speaker 1 00:40:11 You. I'm not talking about, we just had like the little, you know, black I'm talking about, we had ones that went way up like Speaker 2 00:40:16 The towers. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:40:17 I can't, I can't believe you're here right now. Speaker 1 00:40:19 Oh dude. And we had like mortar bombs and shit. Like, it was great. But I remember like multiple times, like putting one a little bit too far on the ground. Especially the big one. Uhhuh we did one time and that thing just explodes on the ground cause it never goes anywhere. Right. And like, I would, I was always the guy, like I would light it and then I would run. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you'd be the guy running. I would be the, I I mean, yeah. Fuck Speaker 2 00:40:41 <laugh>, that's Speaker 1 00:40:41 Buddy the worst gotta be. But my buddy, my buddy was the one that would light it and then just stand there <laugh>. And so one of those big ones would Speaker 3 00:40:50 Go off like some, some arrow roulette grownups too kind of stuff. Speaker 1 00:40:53 This dude would like be standing there and one of those big, big ones would be in the ground and sh and he'd be like, oh shit. <laugh>. And he would start running, I'd already be behind a tree and he, it would explode and like catch a jacket on fire or something. Geez. Speaker 2 00:41:09 That's some Lord, that's, I could call that an Alabama edge of vacation. Right. Speaker 1 00:41:12 Dude, listen man, there's multiple, Speaker 3 00:41:14 Yeah. That's called population control right there. Speaker 2 00:41:15 What, what, what do you miss most about home? Speaker 3 00:41:20 That's a good question. Probably seeing my family and seeing my friends. Um, I don't miss the humidity, I'll tell you that. God, no, I can, dude. You can drive three hours south and be in a tanning bed. It's fricking ridiculous. Speaker 1 00:41:33 Think is where I'm at. <laugh>, the Speaker 2 00:41:36 Florida, he's an hour, he's an hour hour north of Speaker 1 00:41:38 Pensacola. Our town was built on a swamp. We 30 minutes from the river and an hour from the beach. We don't get no breeze. You're, Speaker 3 00:41:43 You're a little different. Mine's. Mine's not as bad as what you got, but good lord, man, Speaker 1 00:41:46 It's a hundred degrees and a hundred percent here year Speaker 3 00:41:48 Round. Are at, we're at an elevation up here, ain't we? Yeah, that's what I was Speaker 1 00:41:51 Thinking. Actually. We're a little bit of a bowl. Speaker 2 00:41:53 Really? N Nashville's kind of a bowl. The surrounding areas are where it's elevated. Speaker 1 00:41:56 Like Franklin's elevated. Speaker 2 00:41:57 That's why Speaker 3 00:41:58 That must be what it is. It keeps us kind of, that's Speaker 2 00:42:00 Why downtown floods and like things, things can happen like that. Yeah. Uh, what food do you miss most about Alabama? Oh, you a big barbecue guy. Speaker 3 00:42:08 We don't really have too, too many barbecue joints. We used, we'd go to my grandma's house and she'd cook a lot. Speaker 1 00:42:13 I feel like the Alabama staple is a Sunday after church potluck where you get the fried chicken from the local, local grocery store. Speaker 3 00:42:23 That is true. Speaker 1 00:42:23 Or church's chicken or a ksfc. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Speaker 3 00:42:25 Yeah. We, we'd go to grandma's maybe like, I don't know, maybe twice a month. Sunday. Sunday afternoons. And just either that or foot football games is where we'd really do it. Yeah. Like Bama football would come on and we'd always go to my mom's house for Bama football Speaker 2 00:42:39 Since, since I fucked with him last episode when we had Ella on. Mm-hmm. And she's, she's an Auburn girl. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Can you say your, say the way you say roll tide. Do you say what? R o e spell Speaker 3 00:42:48 It. It's r o w t y d Ead Speaker 1 00:42:52 <laugh> Speaker 3 00:42:53 Rot Tide roll Speaker 2 00:42:54 First. First roll Tide. We've gotten on here in a Speaker 3 00:42:56 While. Yeah. Well that's how you say it. Rot tide. Nobody says roll tide Speaker 1 00:43:00 My girl. Speaker 3 00:43:00 If you say roll tide, then don't even talk to me. You're not. My girlfriend Speaker 1 00:43:03 Will go through like a grocery store and she'll grab some tide and put it in the thing and she goes, I'm rolling Tide. I'm like, Speaker 3 00:43:09 Oh my God. Hell yeah. That's like break up the fence right there. Speaker 1 00:43:13 No, she's good. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:43:16 Even besides Speaker 2 00:43:17 The, he's far, he's far away from that. We love you Momo Morgan. Morgan more Mo Momo for show. Um, Speaker 3 00:43:22 But yeah, dude, Bama is, Bama is crazy about football. Yeah. I mean from, from Friday to SAT Fridays and Saturdays, the whole state shuts down. Speaker 2 00:43:31 Yeah. So the big days in Alabama are what? So Wednesday church, Friday football. Speaker 3 00:43:36 Yeah. Thursdays not really much goes on. Um, Speaker 2 00:43:38 Satur Saturday football and or church. And then church, Speaker 3 00:43:41 Well sometimes Thursdays is JB football or Thursdays. And Tuesdays at JV football. Tuesdays Speaker 1 00:43:46 Was always for us. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:43:47 How many, how many kids in your high school? Speaker 3 00:43:49 In my high school. Speaker 2 00:43:50 How small town's Jacksonville were you public or private. Speaker 3 00:43:53 So I wasn't actually born in Jacksonville. Jacksonville is the, is city. We're outside of the city limits, but we don't have a courthouse where we're from. Like Pleasant Valley is the place, the spot I'm from. No. So there's no courthouse, there's nothing we have to use Jacksonville address. Um, pleasant Valley. I think we had less than 500 kids in the elementary. What? And the high school. Speaker 1 00:44:13 What, what a were y'all? Speaker 3 00:44:14 Three Three. Speaker 1 00:44:15 Three. Yeah. I was one a three Speaker 3 00:44:17 A. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. You can't even count the 500. Speaker 1 00:44:20 No. I think we had 250 kids K through 12. Speaker 3 00:44:23 That's Speaker 1 00:44:23 Ridiculous. Yeah. We had 17 football players playing eighth graders. Speaker 3 00:44:28 Them kids were in shape. I'll tell you that. Speaker 1 00:44:29 I played both ways. I came off for kickoff and pun. I was Speaker 3 00:44:32 About to say that. Was it to say you were in shape? Yeah, but we, uh, we were three A my junior and senior year. We were two A before him, but uh, but yeah, I graduated with 68 or 69 kids, something like that. I can't remember, but it's, it was right around there. We had 110 going into seventh grade where the biggest class ever comes to the Pleasant Valley. I don't know what happened. 40 kids, but they just left <laugh>. Some kids got sent to jail. Oh Speaker 2 00:44:57 Geez. Speaker 3 00:44:57 Oh yeah. Some kids dropped out. So like, Speaker 2 00:44:59 What's the wildest thing you've seen in Alabama? Because I feel like Bojo seen some wild shit. I've seen some interesting shit. I don't know if I'll, I mean, maybe I call it wild. I've been to Boaz and Heflin and mm-hmm. <affirmative> Opelika and just different mobile. Speaker 3 00:45:12 The wildest thing I've seen in Alabama. Speaker 2 00:45:14 You're like, okay. Like how Florida man, like how we always fuck with old Lee Langston about mm-hmm. <affirmative> being from Florida and like Florida, man, shit. Like stuff we see O Ryan Nelson do What's an Alabama man, fuck. Speaker 3 00:45:23 This is a crazy thing. Um, on your way to Auburn, you go down 4 31 bore. You might have been down that way and you might have been too. Did you go, were you on the team whenever they'd played Berm Street? Speaker 2 00:45:35 No, Speaker 1 00:45:35 Neither one of us Speaker 3 00:45:36 Were. Yeah, I wasn't. Okay. There's a spot, uh, Gary and Chuck knew what I'm talking about. And uh, clay, clay Barker and all those guys. I know there's a spot on 4 31 and it's right off the highway. Cause you know your go, the government owns like a certain portion right off the highway. Yeah. I can't remember what it's called. Um, but there is a store with, actually there's a big billboard on the side of the, on the side of the interstate that says, uh, Confederate Country store. And it's just got a big, this, you've old, you've seen it. It's a big old rebel flag billboard right off the side of it. Go down and you go through 4 31 and right off the side of the road, it's just, this looks like a old saloon type of building. Square, low, low ceiling. And it's just Confederate store. It's probably got 40 rebel flags sitting right off the side of the road. And I'm like, good Lord, Speaker 2 00:46:25 Alabama. That's, Speaker 1 00:46:26 There's a few of those through the southeast. That's, Speaker 3 00:46:28 That's what people from LA think about Alabama whenever they think about Alabama and Mississippi. Yeah. It's a store like that. That's exactly what it's, Speaker 2 00:46:35 Yeah. Or that the big ru the big one. There's, there's a big, big sign out in near, um, Talladega too. I think it's like a Dixie Outfitters or something that's over there. Yes. Something like that. Yes. Cause I know Dixie Outfitter's a big thing. I'm like, well, in like Alabama, Mississippi, Speaker 3 00:46:46 That's the wildest thing I've ever seen in Alabama. Talladega Speaker 2 00:46:49 Talladega really? Speaker 3 00:46:50 Talladega on a Saturday night before a race. I've heard. I've freaking ridiculous. I've Speaker 2 00:46:53 Heard it described by, I Speaker 3 00:46:54 Saw a couch and a car get burned the last time I was down there. I think it was somebody's car. Geez. That they drove down there. Speaker 1 00:47:01 Speaking of Pyromania. Yeah. Like, that's a big thing in Alabama. We just, we just, you just light a couch on fire. Speaker 3 00:47:07 Bama, people love to burn shit. Oh yeah. Don't ask me why. It's our favorite thing to do. Jeez. Just watch a fire, Speaker 1 00:47:11 See the field, put some diesel on a couch, light it with a roaming candle and let's Speaker 3 00:47:16 Watch. Watching a fire is the most pleasant thing, uh, redneck can ever do. It's, and Speaker 1 00:47:21 Like you stick stuff in it and see what you I was always, Speaker 3 00:47:23 I was see what burn. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:47:24 I was, I was always like a fireplace. I mean, we would do like pallet fires and stuff for like the homecoming football game mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like, things like that. But like for us it was always like fireplace or like the little fire pits that we all have to have in our backyard. Most Speaker 3 00:47:37 Somebody's got like more than an acre. We just find a spot out in the middle of it. Oh yeah. No. Doing random stuff. Speaker 2 00:47:42 I've been to those now too. And I mean, you have guys like, like Nelson who like to do those kind of fires and a in a suburban backyard in Antioch. I love run. Speaker 1 00:47:50 And the thing with burning fires is that leads to the second most popular sport in Alabama, which is jumping over fires. Speaker 3 00:47:56 Oh yeah. The raw Olympic long jumpers. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:47:59 <laugh>, Speaker 3 00:48:00 I will say that. But only Speaker 1 00:48:01 When there's a fire. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:48:02 You're you're an Olympic long jumper when the consequence of not jumping over is getting burned by Speaker 1 00:48:07 Fire. Dude, I remember watching a guy first day getting on with Alabama Gas. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he freaking is in uniform still. And you know, they give you your uniform. Yeah. And we set a recliner on fire and he's like, I'm gonna jump it. So he goes to jump and his like, shin catches the back of the couch and flips over and like, he's like on fire and he goes, he's like screaming and stuff, but he melted his pants to his Speaker 3 00:48:30 Leg. Oh my God. Speaker 1 00:48:31 Like, I mean, there's plenty of those stories. Oh Speaker 3 00:48:34 Yeah. And, and Dega, we, it was me and my boys from, uh, from Tuscaloosa. Cause I, I spent a semester in University of Alabama. Um, that was last fall is when I spent that. But we went down to Dega and, uh, it's T Digga. Yeah. Digga. Speaker 2 00:48:50 Dega. I hear it's a third world Digga. I hear it becomes a third world country. Ridiculous dude. I've heard from a lot of folks. I mean, Dawson and Level, it's Speaker 3 00:48:56 Next level. And Speaker 2 00:48:57 Carly Rogers have told me that it is insane. It's, Speaker 3 00:49:01 You can't prepare yourself for Talladega. But we just walked up in this field and there's just a bunch of people standing around, just furniture and a car burning in the middle of the field. And there was some dude in like a gmc single Cab Sierra just doing donuts around it. <laugh> like it was some kind of redneck ritual or something. <laugh>, you know, we were just, Speaker 2 00:49:20 They were calling back the guest for Dale Speaker 3 00:49:22 Earnhart. We were praying for cornbread or something, you know, Speaker 1 00:49:24 Praying that Austin Dillon doesn't win. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:49:27 Yes. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:49:28 Kyle Bus. Yeah. Where's, Speaker 2 00:49:29 Where's, where's, where's the coolest place you've been? You got in the travel much, Speaker 3 00:49:33 Uh, Speaker 2 00:49:33 Or most different for you? Like when you were like, oh shit, all right. Speaker 3 00:49:36 We went down to Baton Rouge. We went down to Baton Rouge and uh, that was when I was still gonna jsu. We played, um, we didn't play. We went and saw Jacksonville State play lsu. That was crazy. Them Baton Rouge, those Cajuns, man, they only, they only, I I love them. Cajun people. No, Speaker 2 00:49:54 They only play, Speaker 3 00:49:54 But good Lord, LSU fans get on my nerve. They Speaker 2 00:49:56 They only play at night, correct? Speaker 1 00:49:57 Yeah. Pretty. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:49:58 They don't play day games. Home games. Speaker 2 00:50:00 So they can, Speaker 3 00:50:01 Home games are all at night. Speaker 2 00:50:02 So they can drink all day and then go in. Right, exactly. And be the rowdiest people in college football. Speaker 3 00:50:06 Exactly. It was insane. Yeah. They didn't, they didn't check you for alcohol? Speaker 1 00:50:12 No, no. Speaker 3 00:50:12 They just let you in. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Also, I didn't even use my ticket. I didn't know where to go. So I had like a student ticket. I didn't know where to go. I, that was just like, maybe I just go to my seat because I could, there was no booths to like get your ticket stamped or them tell you. So I just walked up some steps. Speaker 2 00:50:27 That's how they fixed Speaker 3 00:50:28 Somebody and walked right to my seat. And I was like, I could have just not even paid. I didn't see anybody. I just walked up to concession stands. Speaker 2 00:50:34 That's how, that's how they have a hundred thousand almost every game. Precor like, I guess so, dude, they just, they just let it with <laugh>. They Speaker 1 00:50:40 Just come Speaker 3 00:50:41 The stadium just open, bro. You don't even need tickets. Speaker 1 00:50:43 Hey, listen, if you can walk into the stadium, you can see here. Speaker 2 00:50:46 Alright. Speaker 3 00:50:47 I mean we were in the nosebleeds, but it was still so much fun. Speaker 2 00:50:49 How loud is Baton Rouge? Like how loud is is Death Speaker 3 00:50:52 Valley? Well, Speaker 2 00:50:52 I mean we, I know that was a down at conference game, but it Speaker 3 00:50:54 Was, yeah. Uh, but it was still sold out. Like they, they saw every game. Yeah. I mean it was ridiculous after on first kickoff. Oh my god. And you know, it is just, you're just surrounded by it. Cuz I wasn't in the lower bowl, I was in the top. So it was just all that echo coming back and it was just, just crazy in my, in my face. It's ridiculous. Speaker 2 00:51:11 Was the band playing that next song at that point? Speaker 3 00:51:15 No, that was when they band it. Speaker 2 00:51:17 Yeah. Speaker 3 00:51:17 Yeah. They didn't play Speaker 2 00:51:18 That. O BJ was in the front freaking <laugh> orchestrating. I hated him, Speaker 1 00:51:22 Dude. I hated that. We got, uh, Dixieland Delight taken away for a while. Speaker 3 00:51:27 Well, I know, Speaker 1 00:51:28 You know what's funny though, this is Gary and Chuck probably don't realize this. Mm-hmm. But anytime we're in Alabama, I make sure within like the fir the last three songs before they come on stage A comes Speaker 2 00:51:41 Off and he, and he does it before the opener and before Gary and Chuck, I'll do it like Speaker 1 00:51:45 Three times. So times. Yeah, absolutely. Especially when we were in Tuscaloosa. Hell yeah. Speaker 2 00:51:48 I remember, I remember being at Drew City and just hearing the echo of Dixieland Delight with a, with a sold out crowd yelling it. And I was like, yelling, Speaker 3 00:51:56 Roll Todd. Speaker 2 00:51:56 Yelling, roll Todd. Fuck this. Fuck them. Fuck you, fuck this <laugh>. And it was just like, whoa, I, my people like this. Speaker 1 00:52:03 I think it was Dru City or his mobile, uh, this whole like second verse on after everywhere. They were just like, fuck Auburn. Fuck Auburn. Fuck Auburn. It second verse Speaker 3 00:52:13 Is just that you're in Tuscaloosa. That's all you said. Yeah. Yeah. It was Speaker 2 00:52:16 Anybody Speaker 3 00:52:17 Outside of Tuscaloosa osa Speaker 2 00:52:18 It was, it was definitely true at City man. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:52:20 Yeah. And I was just like, all Speaker 3 00:52:21 Right. And that's one of the reasons why they banned it from the stadium. Cuz they're like, we got grandma's and like little kids here. Speaker 1 00:52:25 Well it was national tv. They were doing it too. I know. That's where it really banned it. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:52:29 Well they, I, I can't remember what game it was, but they did like the experimentation of no commercials during like primetime game. Yeah. And that was a bad idea cuz they had the whole student section. Speaker 1 00:52:38 I think it was the Iron Bowl. Cause they, the whole time they were just saying, fuck Auburn. Speaker 3 00:52:42 I think it probably was <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:52:43 That's hilarious. Yeah. That's, that's, yeah. Yeah. That's, that's pretty well. So you said you were at Tus school. What the hell were you studying college? I don't know. Speaker 3 00:52:52 What do you Speaker 2 00:52:52 Mean you don't know? What was your thing? Were you ec decided Speaker 3 00:52:55 Business? I don't know. Well, I, I dropped outta jsu. I had a full ride scholarship academic. So it was free school. Dropped outta jsu. We had a full, Speaker 2 00:53:02 Full ride. Yeah. Damns. You a smart little guy, huh? Speaker 3 00:53:04 Smart enough. I'll say that. <laugh>. Yeah. Um, Speaker 1 00:53:07 Smart for Alabama. Yeah. Alabama Speaker 2 00:53:09 Public college. Yeah. What Speaker 3 00:53:10 Exactly, can you spell your name? Okay, here you go. What was Speaker 2 00:53:12 Your, what was, what was like your strong, what was like your strong suit with like, music. Music? But I mean like, uh, I'm talking like school. If you got a full ride. Speaker 3 00:53:19 I didn't have a strong suit. I didn't like it. I Speaker 1 00:53:21 Hated school. Speaker 3 00:53:21 School was terrible. But Speaker 2 00:53:22 You had to have good grades to get a full, Speaker 3 00:53:24 Full ride. I could, I could read a lot. Speaker 2 00:53:27 Did you take the s a t of the a CT <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:53:29 I was a good reader. Speaker 2 00:53:30 Did you, did you take any of those big Speaker 3 00:53:32 I took the a C T. What'd you get? So I, I'll tell you, my scores on the A C T I made a 26. My A C T A 26 was just enough to get a full ride at jsu. Yeah. So I took it, I made a 32 on my reading. A 31 on my English A 28 on my math. Not, not on my math. 28 on my science and a 17 on my math. Speaker 2 00:53:49 Okay. So you can't count, but you can read count for shit. You can read and, you know, know some Speaker 3 00:53:53 Other shit. I can read just fine. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:53:54 Don't make y'all two count Merch I can read is what I'm wearing here. Speaker 2 00:53:57 Dude. Speaker 3 00:53:57 I I can read Harry Potter book like the back of my hand, man. But don't your Speaker 1 00:54:01 Parents lets you do that <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:54:04 Yeah. Yeah. Don't ask me how to long divide. I don't even, dude, I, it's hard for me now to like multiply stuff. Do Speaker 2 00:54:10 You still read now? Speaker 3 00:54:12 No. No. No. No. Uhuh. <laugh>. That's stupid. I can't tell you the last time I've sat down and read a book. That's cool. If you want to. But I'd rather like watch Speaker 2 00:54:23 The Office or something. The last, last time I read one, I think I read the, the, I was back when I was doing radio mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I was thinking, and again I have respect for Bobby Bowens, but at the time I thought he was a God. Cause that was what I was trying to do. Right. So I read one of his books and whatever. And that was probably the last book that I read. That was a few years ago. Dude, Speaker 3 00:54:39 I can't, I really can't remember the last time Speaker 1 00:54:41 Right. Book I got all the way through five years of college without opening a textbook. Geez. More than I had to <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:54:48 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:54:48 We legit had a teacher. He was like, we're gonna give you a pop test on this book. It's extra credit. You don't have to take it. You Speaker 2 00:54:55 Do, they do spark notes on Christian books and stuff. Cause you use Spark notes of Speaker 1 00:54:59 Do spark notes on everything. Spark notes, everything Speaker 3 00:55:00 Bro. Speaker 2 00:55:00 Spark notes is my shit. But this Speaker 1 00:55:02 Professor goes, I'm gonna give you this test and you have to get a 90 on it to get the extra credit. Yeah. And if you don't, you don't get extra credit. And actually you lose five points off your final grade. Mm-hmm. So I took the test because I was arrogant and I made a hundred only person to make a hundred. And he like, looked at me and goes, so what'd you think of the book? I'm like, I don't know. I didn't read it. I just guessed on the test. Jesus. That's, that's the person I was in college. Speaker 2 00:55:25 The Lord the Lord of the Nazarene was with you on that one there man. Shout out to Rebeca. Um, but, um, <laugh> Speaker 3 00:55:31 Dude, they would make us buy books in college. That's one thing I had about college is Speaker 2 00:55:36 Oh yeah. The buying the books. Speaker 3 00:55:37 Well, like the co for me, I feel like you should, you shouldn't even need basics in college. You already took that in high school. Yeah. I spent 12 years of my life taking history, math, science, and English. Why do I need more of it? Yeah. First of all, I, I think it's stupid to study. Like, I don't know. It's, it's all about money. Like English stuff. I took English 1 0 1. I had to like write a whole paper on Huckleberry fin. I've never once used any of that living. Make me write a paper on how to write a check. That's what I, I mean I just now Yeah. I know how to write a check. Probably like three Speaker 2 00:56:10 Or three years ago that that taxes like, Speaker 3 00:56:13 Teach me how to invest in socks or something. Don't Speaker 2 00:56:16 Invest, invest in stocks. You know how to apply for insurance. Like all shit that we're gonna have to know how to do. Man. Speaker 3 00:56:21 Like I know who Amelia Earhart is. I don't need a two lecture lesson on who Amelia Earhart is. That's great. Yeah. I don't need to know all this stuff. And like, if they would just put you straight into your major, that's what you're paying for. Speaker 2 00:56:33 Yeah. There's, there's, that's what I did it Speaker 3 00:56:34 First, but they you, they want you there for four years. Yeah. They, they want more money out of you. Yeah. No, Speaker 2 00:56:38 That's Speaker 3 00:56:38 What I learned about college. Unless you have an actual goal outside of college where this degree is gonna help you make x amount of money at such and such job. And that's the, your whole life goal is to have that job. College is great. College is for you. Yeah. But if you don't know what you're doing and you just go get a degree, you're just wasting money. Speaker 2 00:56:59 Yeah. I I there's so Speaker 3 00:57:00 Many people that I know don't even use Speaker 2 00:57:01 Your degree. Ab Absolutely. Especially here in Nashville. I mean, I got, I got my degree. I credit a lot of my college too. Being involved at the college radio station, working in the sports information department, learning how to do pr, learning how to speak in front of people. That's great. I did that in college. But that, that wasn't from classes. No, that was from extracurriculars. And my grades actually hurt because I was so built on my college radio show and getting cool guests and making a funny show and then going to concerts. That's true. And meeting people. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that was my big thing. Speaker 1 00:57:30 Same for me. But audio, I had two scholarships and a job to be an audio guy on campus. Right. And I was going for business. Speaker 3 00:57:38 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:57:39 Like Speaker 3 00:57:40 It's just a lot of the stuff that, especially in what we do in like creative kind of Speaker 2 00:57:45 Careers. Yeah. So, so what, what kind of advice would you give for a kid right now? Say, say an 18 year old kid. I mean right now, 2020s obviously a crap shit. I don't know what the hell the, the status is of kids trying to graduate or kids that graduate this year or whatever. But like, what advice would you, would you give to somebody trying to do what you're doing? You Speaker 3 00:58:03 Better make damn sure it's what you wanna do. You better do some soul searching because if you don't go to school and this don't work out. Not too good of a life for you there bud. You know, you're not making any money. Y'all need got a high school degree. Like, just kinda stuff. What I've been having to do here lately, like I don't have a college degree. I've been having to build, I built fences for like, I don't know, two weeks, three weeks, just to make rent One month. Yeah. Because I don't have, I don't, all I gotta do you gotta do manual labor. I mean, I wouldn't rather be doing anything else. I love this. I love doing what I'm doing right now. I'd rather be broke to the day I die doing this right now. Instead of sitting behind a desk at a nine to five job and never seeing my family. Speaker 2 00:58:38 I, I can't imagine you in an office. You would be electric to work with though. Dude. You at like an office party would be a lot of fun. Like, like I Speaker 1 00:58:44 Could seen him walking outta work every day just fucking ripping the shirt off. Dude. Speaker 2 00:58:47 Dude. It'd be like workaholic. It'd be like workaholics bro. Speaker 3 00:58:50 It'd be like an episode of the office. Speaker 2 00:58:52 <laugh>, who's your favorite office character? Michael Speaker 3 00:58:56 Or Kevin? Michael or Kevin. I love Kevin. Kevin. Speaker 2 00:58:58 Kevin Malone is awesome. Speaker 3 00:58:59 Kevin's an underrated character. I like people don't give that man enough credit. I Speaker 2 00:59:02 Like Creed Bratton a lot too. Speaker 3 00:59:04 Creed's under Creed. Creed's underrated. But a lot of people say they like Creed when they don't really like Creed. I've seen the Office like six times too. I feel like I've everybody that but watched doesn't you ever watch The Office, isn't it? Dude, it straight up. Speaker 2 00:59:15 You you would've Speaker 1 00:59:16 It's always been like background. Like I've, Netflix has says that I've watched y'all office Speaker 2 00:59:20 17 times, but I've never watched it. Watched it. I think it listed as the, as like the number one quote unquote Netflix and Chill show. Speaker 3 00:59:26 It's still, it's it's still top three in the, in Netflix of shows watched. Yeah. Like it's, it's generational. Funny. They've Speaker 2 00:59:32 Made more money on the streaming since the series ended than they Hadactually did for Speaker 3 00:59:36 The whole series. Speaker 2 00:59:37 Yeah. Yeah. Than they did when it was on NBC every week. It's ridiculous. Oh yeah. Cause I, I watch the tail end of it every week on nbc. Like I used to record it on my damn TiVo when I was back home. Speaker 3 00:59:45 See I didn't even watch the Office until it come out like on Netflix. I, I really didn't watch TV shows yet. Speaker 2 00:59:51 And it starts an easy show to binge. The episodes aren't, it's so good long. Speaker 3 00:59:53 The thing about the office, you have to watch it from the beginning cuz it's one big storyline. It's a Speaker 2 00:59:58 Documentary. Speaker 3 00:59:59 Like the whole thing. Yeah. So you can't just jump in. You can, if you just wanna do it for the jokes, if you don't really care about the show, but for the actual experience of the show you watch all the Speaker 2 01:00:06 Time. Do you ever go back and just watch certain episodes though? Speaker 3 01:00:08 Yeah, I went back last night and watched dinner party Speaker 2 01:00:10 Dinner Party's a great one with Jan trying to sell her candles. <laugh>, it's, it's, you would like that one. We might have to go up and watch it after this. It's, it's phenomenal. This is my tv. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:00:20 I love this tv. Sorry for a godawful carpet in here. Speaker 2 01:00:25 Yeah. Dwight brings that old lady as his date or whatever. <laugh>. It's like his, it's like his old babysitter from when he was a kid or something. Speaker 3 01:00:32 Jen, we always do what you wanna do. Speaker 2 01:00:33 She's singing the song about her, um, her assistant or whatever. Speaker 3 01:00:37 Oh what's his name? Took me Speaker 2 01:00:38 Or he's s singing the song. Hunter. Hunter. Yeah. And Hunter's like you took me by the Speaker 3 01:00:42 Head, took me by the head. She's like dancing by herself, Speaker 2 01:00:46 Holding a candle. <laugh> so much nonsense in that. Speaker 3 01:00:50 Everything. Alright. She's like, hunter has potential <laugh>. He Hunter is talented. Speaker 2 01:00:57 He's bonafide. Speaker 3 01:00:58 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Speaker 2 01:00:59 I love that movie too. Oh brother. Where aren't was the Speaker 3 01:01:01 Classic three va the three vasectomy thing. That's so funny bro. Snip Speaker 2 01:01:05 And then could I snip and then, and then sniff. And then you Speaker 3 01:01:08 Said we didn't want to have kids. Why I have a vasectomy. And then you said maybe I do wanna have kids. So I had vasectomy. Reverse snip snap snip snap snip snap <laugh>. Do you have any idea the kind of toll three vasectomies Heck on a man <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:01:20 What'd you, what'd you think of the new Borat? Cause I know we quoted on it Speaker 3 01:01:24 A lot. I like it. A lot of people don't. The whole thing about Borat is Boort is made to make fun of something. Yeah. It's Speaker 2 01:01:32 A joke. Oh yeah, it's Speaker 3 01:01:33 A joke. It's the whole thing's a joke. Now granted his political views might be left leaning. I don't care. Yeah. Like it's just a joke. I want people get That's the problem. People got offended by that the same way people got offended by the first one. Why watch it if you're gonna get offended? Speaker 2 01:01:48 Yeah. No, he's, Speaker 3 01:01:48 You already know he's an offensive guy. That's how he made his money. Speaker 2 01:01:52 I Have you watched it yet? Yeah, I watched, I finished it the other Speaker 3 01:01:54 Night. It makes fun of Middle America Trump supporters. Speaker 2 01:01:57 Yeah. The rally that that that rally that that rally was wild. And, but my thing is Speaker 3 01:02:03 Too, that movie is much more raunchy than I remember the first one. Speaker 2 01:02:05 Yeah. Well the, the first one wasn't as raunchy. The first one was kind of him just kind of developing. I, I hope they make it a trilogy. And we get like a, a 50 60 year old Sasha Barone maybe in Gray. And he's got like his s kid, like his grandson mm-hmm. <affirmative> from his 15 year old daughter. Yeah. Paul's daughter's, like, they people do it a few years. So the daughter's like 18 or 19. So she's young as shit. Still do it just to play off the Kazakhstan thing. But Speaker 3 01:02:28 What blows my mind is how the fact, even the first one, it's kinda the same setup as like, bad grandpa, that movie, they got real people to do this. Speaker 2 01:02:38 That's the thing too. You can't be That's so crazy Speaker 3 01:02:40 To me. You Speaker 2 01:02:41 Can't be, you can't be mad at, at Sasha Bar Cohen because these Speaker 3 01:02:44 People are so stupid. Speaker 2 01:02:45 Yeah. They, they accepted those two guys and granted, I don't know if he paid 'em off. He could have paid 'em off. I there could, there could be a budget to it or whatever. Maybe could've been like, Hey, we're filming a documentary, can I stay with you for $5,000? And those, those, so those, those, those two dudes. But either way, I mean they still did it. The Speaker 3 01:03:01 Rudy Giuliani thing. That's crazy. Yeah. That is ridiculous. How, as a political figure with so many people in your team. Yeah. How do you let that happen? Speaker 2 01:03:10 Yeah. How do you, how do you as his, as his like pr people, as his security people, how, how do you, how do you how Speaker 3 01:03:16 That's, it makes it so much more funny though. Speaker 2 01:03:17 How, how do you let a, a fake, a complete fake non-credible source? Like, like that girl coming into Speaker 3 01:03:23 It just tells you how good Sasha Bar Coen is. It is. So like make it work. Speaker 2 01:03:26 It is. And that's something I learned in, that's one thing I did learn in college with journalism and stuff. You gotta do what you gotta do. Like you gotta know when the receptionist might be on a lunch break Yeah. So that you can get a direct line to the person you need to contact to set up the interview. It's very true. Yeah. Like it's, you gotta you gotta have strategy in setting up stuff as a, as a journalist. Especially yellow journalism. Like what he does and stuff. But, Speaker 3 01:03:44 But I, I saw mixed reviews about the Borat thing. I mean, a lot of conservatives hate it. Yeah. Which I'm conservative. I don't care. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:03:49 We've had, we've had some buddies that have been like, I didn't like it, man, blah. I'm like, well, I, I fucked care. Even of my buddies in New York were kind of just like, eh, it wasn't the first one. But I still, I still, I don't care. I still laughed my fucking ass up. I don't Speaker 3 01:04:00 Care. I had a great time. I, I'm not easily offended by anything. If you wanna make fun of me, I don't care. You know, I'm not gonna get mad over a movie. That's sucks. Why waste your time. Yeah. Especially whenever you know what it is going into it. Right. I've got so many more things to get mad about. And also I love, I'm not gonna get mad about poor making fun of you. Speaker 2 01:04:15 And also, and also I love the fact that it was free. I love that they put it out for Speaker 3 01:04:19 Free. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:04:20 Absolutely. I I might go watch it again later. I I like that movie. I enjoyed it. Um, now talking, talking back to I Speaker 3 01:04:25 Much, Speaker 2 01:04:26 It was very nice. Great. Six days. Speaker 3 01:04:28 It has been nice. Speaker 2 01:04:29 Like a good piece for a kid from Alabama. He does a great boort. Speaker 3 01:04:32 I love it. Dylan Marlow does a good boort too. Dylan Marlow's pretty. Lee Lee sucks. Lee's borat's awful. I I'm talking like next level. Terrible. It's Lee. It's Lee though. Yeah. He can't do accents. <laugh>. He can just do Lee or sports events. We, we, Speaker 2 01:04:46 We, we, we, we love we love you Lee. Speaker 3 01:04:48 We love you. Brian sucks at it too. Love you Brian. Your boy's terrible Wells doesn't even try. Yeah. Cause his I know his dad definitely Speaker 2 01:04:54 Sucks. I no video. You guys doing impersonations and shit. Um, what, um, now talk, so I'm back to music. Where did the Rock influence come? Like what did you grow up listening to? Speaker 3 01:05:03 That's a great question. No one ever asked me that. That's awesome. Well you're, this is why I love you guys. Speaker 2 01:05:08 Well you're so well, you're so out of the box. Like Yeah. There's a lot of outta the box with country I think like what, what Gary and Charlie are doing a little bit outta the box. Definitely What Hardy's doing A little bit bit outta the box. What even like girls like, like Laney and Ashlyn Craft are doing a little bit outta the box. You know? Well Speaker 3 01:05:22 First of all it's a hell with a box. No, Speaker 2 01:05:24 Exactly. Speaker 3 01:05:25 The box is so ridiculous. Why people think they can, no other genre does this thing besides pop no other genre confines people to one sound. Cuz it's not a sound, it's a genre. It's a feeling that you get whenever you listen to a certain music. What kind of music that is. You know, my voice is country as hell. Yes. I'm always gonna make country music. You know, I can't get away from it. Cuz even talking right now, I can hear my country come out. I got really bad sometimes my accent gets bad. Oh. Speaker 2 01:05:53 I love when you're a few beers deep and you're just in full bora mode and it's either a bora quote or like hotter than a horn chart. Right. You just, you're just getting country with it, you know? Like Yeah. Speaker 1 01:06:04 I lemme tell you what, do you ever get really drunk and think that you're talking a certain way? And then people are like, nah dude, you're just getting more country. Speaker 3 01:06:11 I don't get really drunk. My mama listens to this Bora mama. I don't, I don't drink at all. Boud Boudro Speaker 2 01:06:16 Boudro. When I first met Boudro, we, I had just moved to town, so mm-hmm. <affirmative> when you first moved to town and it's not 2020 mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the bars are open and you're working the Broadway circuit. Yeah. You're just going out all the time. Oh yeah. And we, Speaker 3 01:06:27 Dude, that's one thing about Covid, if this bars have been open, I'd be broke. Even broke than I am right now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Know what I'm saying? Absolutely. I to save a little money, we, Speaker 2 01:06:35 We used to spend Sunday nights, me and Tyler going out and early in the podcast. I mean, if you go back and listen to early episodes mm-hmm. <affirmative> we used always shouted out. We had a late night out The Wild Beaver last night. Yeah, exactly. We we're, we're a little, we're a little tired. Yeah. And, and we, we would get, get a little crazy with, but I definitely heard his country, like I've heard some of the country's things in my life mm-hmm. <affirmative> from one of the quietest people I know. Oh yeah. And, and that, that's Tyler right here. Like Right. It'll, the country comes out when you drink. And then when I go home to New York or I, I get a little, I get a little too much Delta aid in me. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I, um, I get my New York comes out. Right. I say I Speaker 1 01:07:06 I've been at a party before in New Jersey mm-hmm. <affirmative> thinking that I'm like mimicking their accent and just be country as hell. <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:07:15 Yeah. Speaker 3 01:07:15 So that's how you get 'em. Right. Speaker 2 01:07:17 So who, who were some people that say a teenager Elijah Borderers was bumping in the truck? Who were you listening to? Speaker 3 01:07:23 I, uh, I was big on like three doors down. So I'll tell you what got me in a rock. My dad never listened to country music. He doesn't really any anymore. My dad's like one of those classic rock kind of guys. I think everybody's dad like classic rock. Speaker 2 01:07:38 Yes. 100%. Speaker 3 01:07:39 So Dad listened to, it's either classic rock or your dad listening to Merle Haggard. There's no in between down here. Yeah. You know, so dad would turn on like, had like a Boston record. I've never heard of Boston. This is Speaker 2 01:07:52 Great. Oh, I I'm familiar More than a feeling Speaker 3 01:07:53 Eagles. Yeah. More than a feeling. Speaker 2 01:07:57 I like Higher, higher Power. There's quite a few like Speaker 3 01:07:59 Dude that, that album Speaker 2 01:08:00 Smoking with the Speaker 3 01:08:01 Spaceship on it. Yes. Speaker 2 01:08:02 I slaps I had that album. Miss Speaker 3 01:08:04 Laughs uh, the Greatest Hits of The Eagles. Listen to that Fleet Wood Mack Rumors album. Listen to that. Uh, three Doors Down away from the Sign, Nickelback. All the Right Reasons. Speaker 2 01:08:16 Yeah. Nickelback, I hear a lot. You know what's interesting, I mean people, a lot of people don't know this. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> the, one of the main sounds, one of the main big producers in town right now is Joey Moy. Joey Moys with Big Lab. Speaker 3 01:08:26 Produced, produced Nickelback. He Speaker 2 01:08:28 Produced Nickelback, then went and you can Speaker 3 01:08:29 Hear it too Speaker 2 01:08:29 Then. Yeah. You can really hear it. That then went from Nickelback to FGL and created that, that first Fgl album. Album. Which in my opinion is their best when they kind, Speaker 3 01:08:37 I I definitely think, was it Out Boys around here? Is that Speaker 2 01:08:39 What's called? No, it was the, it was Here's To The Good Times. That's, Speaker 3 01:08:42 That's right. Speaker 2 01:08:42 That's right. And it's the song where they singled basically every song on the damn record. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And that that created Speaker 3 01:08:47 The, that's what changed. People talk shit about fgl. FGL changed the whole game. Yeah. Fgl paved the way for guys like Hardy and Morgan won to do it. Speaker 2 01:08:54 Exactly. Which is why they're all under, under Luke Holmes, which is why they're under big loud and under Tree Vibes and all that. Yeah. But Joey produced that and now is producing f Speaker 3 01:09:01 G took the shit. So guys like Morgan won Morgan and Hardy Speaker 2 01:09:06 Can be Cool and now, and then Joey's producing all the stuff that comes outta Big Loud, so Hardy's songs like Boots and just, just heavy freaking songs. That whole album. That whole album in my opinion, one of the albums of the year. Um, and, but that, that just shows that, that by him being a big guy in the industry and having Create, helping been a big part of Nickelback Sound. Right. Like the all the right Reasons. Album, like Side of a Bullet in Animals and like, dude, that was, that was a record I had in my little walk. Fancy Follow follow follow you Home. Yeah. And, and it's so cool now because that, that has kind of been a huge thing. I know Nickelback gets shit on a lot because the internet Speaker 3 01:09:43 Internet's, I mean, some of their songs deserve to get hate because some of 'em kind of douchey, but Yeah, Speaker 2 01:09:47 It's, it's, it's the internet. Internet hates on everybody. Yeah, they do. But um, but like for you, I, I hear the Nickel back obviously we always joke about Noah kind of was the one who I think started the Creed country. Like Yeah. People love the melodic shit though, Speaker 3 01:10:00 Like g gr country kind of feel. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:10:01 But that's what CO's doing. That's Speaker 3 01:10:03 What Yeah. And I love co I'm a huge co fan. A lot of people don't understand it, but I love his music. Um, and like, especially when I got older, it turned into more punk rock than anything. So like I'd listen like Three Days Grace and, uh, all time Low. Um, fallout Boy, blink 180 2, I was a huge Blink fan. Did you Speaker 2 01:10:22 Ever, did you ever go to a warp tour? Did you ever get an opportunity to Speaker 3 01:10:25 Do that? No, I never got a chance to go to Warp Tour war. Speaker 2 01:10:26 So it was big up in Jersey and one of my exes was a huge diehard all time low fan. I love all time. I'm talking, they were doing like a signing thing in Philly and we had to go down there in the morning so we could be in line. And I got dragged to an all time low concert. It was all time low issues in some other band and it was fucking, I was crazy. Like those shows are high energy and a lot of Speaker 3 01:10:45 Fun. I love all Time Low. They're, uh, they've been a huge inspiration, like on the new stuff that I'm doing, like their new album that come out. I love it so good. Um, and that's been really been pushing a lot of my, a lot of my sound and what I've been going for here lately. Um, but yeah, just a lot. I mean, I listen to country too. I like country, but I guess for me as an artist, it's not country. Speaker 2 01:11:07 Now how does it go into the writing? Like what do you, do you, do you write country songs and then find a way to put a rock twist on him or, Speaker 3 01:11:13 I mean, Speaker 2 01:11:14 Not really because like were, were you really mine, like Tyler Chambers is a, is a country writer. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. And were you really Mine fucking Rocks. Yeah. Like that, that's a, that's a heavy emotional song. Like it Speaker 3 01:11:24 Is and it's, I guess it's just me that pull, cuz I don't really write country stereotypical things. Like Tyler writes some great country songs. Yeah. But that's like, not what I write. Like, I like to write more along the lines of I guess emotional, heartfelt kind of stuff I guess you could say. Or stuff that doesn't really pull country, uh, what am I trying to say? Country, I guess influences like, not talking about dirt roads or Speaker 2 01:11:52 Country stereotypes. Yeah, Speaker 3 01:11:54 There you go. It's country stereotypes. Yeah. I mean there's great songs written like that. Like Tyler just put out a song called Dirt Road. I love that song. Love The Way The Dirt Road. That's actually a badass, you know, hook and Noah helped him write that. Um, but like, I just don't put stuff like that out. So I, I guess it's when people hear what I, what I do, they kinda like flip the Switch whenever I write with him. I got a buddy of mine, uh, Quint Collins, you know, Speaker 2 01:12:17 Quint. Oh dude, I fuck. He is one of the coolest Quin chats in town. Speaker 3 01:12:21 I love Quint. Speaker 2 01:12:21 And, and a lot of people don't know who he is yet. I know. Yeah. And he's when when he, yeah, I mean cuz he has the, that vibe mm-hmm. Of like what a lot of the guys at Big Loud are doing. And like the Tree Vibes guys, but also has the Rocky Edge, but also can go out there and write a fucking hiphop track. Like the Kid, the kid is just so talented. Like, Speaker 3 01:12:39 His, his, his lane as an artist is hiphop r and b. But we write rock songs whenever I write with him. Like that's, I've been writing my Quint, I don't know, maybe two months. And we've, we've written maybe, I don't know, 10 songs, eight songs. That's Speaker 2 01:12:55 Insane. Yeah. That's a hell of a success record. Speaker 3 01:12:57 Oh my God. And every song I love, it's not like we just write a song and write a song and at the end we're like, oh, this song's terrible. I don't do that. Yeah. Like, when me and Quint write together, I like the songs that we write and he loves the songs we write. So, um, I feel like it's just, I don't know. I couldn't tell you how I write honestly. Cause I have no idea. I just write what feels cool. I write what I think is cool. I guess it's just this next one that I'm putting out. Um, it's not really country at all. Speaker 2 01:13:26 No Drunk. Drunk Is Drunk Is Not. Now what was the, who'd you write that one with? What's the story behind that Speaker 3 01:13:30 Song? So I wrote, I wrote, I wrote Drunk with Quint and, uh, McCoy Moore. Speaker 2 01:13:34 Oh dude, that's another kid. I'm telling you this. Yeah. McCoy's good This next Crop. And it, it's something that I I say a lot and I I coin it to, to Gary saying this mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, is the, the class thing. Like people moving to town around the same time. Yeah. And this, this and that. It and McCoy's in that same class as you. Yeah. And he's, he's country as hell. Speaker 3 01:13:53 Oh yeah. McCoy's Country three and through Speaker 2 01:13:55 And he's a kid. Speaker 3 01:13:56 Yeah. He's 19. Yeah. He Speaker 2 01:13:57 Texted me last night like, Hey man, can I get into, I, I, uh, we didn't, it was like, like you don't realize how how young some of y'all are. Yeah. And, and McCoy's Young as shit. And like Speaker 3 01:14:07 Yeah. McCoy's a baby Speaker 2 01:14:08 And he's, he's got so much fucking talent and Speaker 3 01:14:11 Yeah. He's Speaker 2 01:14:12 Good. So that the fact y'all, Speaker 3 01:14:13 But he looks like he's 43. Speaker 2 01:14:14 Yeah. And the three of y'all together are all so kind of different Speaker 3 01:14:18 That I think that was like the recipe for success was, I'm coming from more of a rockside quint's coming from the countryside and Quint, I mean, not Quint, but McCoy's coming from the countryside and then Quint's coming from like a, a pop end. So like you get the best of both. All three worlds coming at one time. You just don't get a big country song. You don't get a big pop song. You don't get a rock song. You get like, influences from everywhere. Cause that's where I've got influences from influence from country, pop, rock, hip hop, r and b. I mean, kids my age, that's all we listen to is rap now. Rap's like the number one genre. Speaker 2 01:14:52 Yeah. What's what's something that we would be surprised to know that you listened to, Speaker 3 01:14:56 To know that I listened to, you know, it's Speaker 2 01:14:57 Like a guilty pleasure. I'll tell you mine, mine's, mine's fucking Boudreau got me into this and I hate it on it for a long, long time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> was, cause I used to be like, how is this popular? Like, she's just whispering. Like, I don't know how I like this. Boudreaux got me into fucking Billie Eilish. I love Billy E. Yeah. He got me into like Billie Eilish and then I got into Phineas from that. I'm like, whoa. I never listen to pop stuff. Like, I, I've hate. And granted Speaker 1 01:15:18 That's, see that's all I listened to really growing up was like pop and then like rap. Like I never was really into country much. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:15:25 Sound was, I wasn't really big into rap. Like, I listen to a lot of rap now. Um, like Speaker 1 01:15:29 I grew up like on like Lil Wayne, Jay-Z like that kind of stuff. I listen Speaker 3 01:15:32 Wayne, Speaker 1 01:15:33 Like the Southern, Speaker 3 01:15:33 I listen to Lil Wayne religiously whenever it, like, whenever I get into a rap mood, that's what's running on as Lil. Speaker 2 01:15:38 Oh yeah. For me it's the back home New Yorkers, it's Biggie, Jay-Z. Nah, I feel that like it's, it's my, its my, I feel that Speaker 3 01:15:43 I can get down some Speaker 2 01:15:44 Jay-Z There's, there's something about driving to see my brother in Brooklyn and listening to Brooklyn's Finest off Jay-Z's first record. Him and BD Smalls. And I'm just like, where my brother's living now, the gentrification. This is where these guys were like slinging Cracker Ox. That's pretty cool. Speaker 3 01:15:57 Yeah. It's gangster shit. Oh dude. Yeah. I, I guess it's not really, I got two guilty guiltys pleasures. I guess I listen to like super heavy metal. Like really like in your face. Speaker 2 01:16:09 We, we talking like slash we talking like, like European black church metal. Like what? Not like, Speaker 3 01:16:14 Not like actual like black metal. I don't understand what those dudes are saying. I don't, I don't get in all that. Cause Speaker 2 01:16:20 The circle fit. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:16:22 I'm getting all that crazy shit. But like, uh, Speaker 1 01:16:25 Orian death metal. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:16:26 <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:16:27 I don't get into all like the crazy Russian dudes. It just, you know, I can't do that. But Speaker 1 01:16:32 Wait, hold up. Before we get into this, have you ever watched the Vita video? The Russian guy who sings like stupidly high? The, Speaker 2 01:16:38 The the tongue guy? Speaker 3 01:16:43 Yes. I know who you're talking about. I know who you're Speaker 2 01:16:45 Talking about. He like dressed like an alien. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:16:47 Sorry. Anyways, back to Yeah, Speaker 3 01:16:48 I know who you're talking about. Um, so like super Heavy metal and I'm a big Maroon five fan. Okay. Speaker 2 01:16:54 Yeah. Huge. Speaker 3 01:16:55 Maroon Speaker 2 01:16:55 Fives some of the best melodies in some of the best. Oh my God, Speaker 3 01:16:58 Dude. Like that's, that's whenever I started writing songs and I was like, cause I didn't realize how big Melody was until you start thinking about melody. Yeah. And how easy it comes to your ear whenever a good melody comes through. It just feels good. Yeah. And I just go back and listen to like, songs about Jane that first album from room Speaker 2 01:17:14 Five. Dude, Adam, Adam, oh my God. Adam Levine's one of the longest, one of the longest going guys in music. And like, you go back to like Sunday Morning Rain mm-hmm. <affirmative> this love. Like, and then even you move on, like as they've grown and their sound has kind of changed a little bit. I mean they started, I mean, cuz their show apparently like their Speaker 3 01:17:30 Melodies are still the same. Their melodies are all the same. Their production has moved on. So they can be relevant. And I Speaker 2 01:17:36 Know they, and I know they still have, they probably play with tracks and all that, but they also play with tracks, but they also run as like a band as well, which is what's really cool. Speaker 3 01:17:42 Yeah. That's the best thing about Marine Five is they're still the same people, but you gotta adapt or die in this industry. Yeah. That the song's about Jane Sound is not here anymore. No. That's not what's getting played on pop radio. But Speaker 2 01:17:53 Brady was the shit back in the mid two thousands. Speaker 3 01:17:55 Oh my God. It's, I mean I still love it. Yeah. You know, getting to go back and listen to some of those melodies and I used to get peop I don't know, I'm sure I'm, I'm not the only one, but, um, I know everybody that starts singing, they're like, Hey, you should go on The Voice. You should go to American Idol. That's all people know to get you recognized or Speaker 2 01:18:13 Whatever. Is that part of that? People think that they're like, Speaker 3 01:18:15 They think that's what it is. Which I mean they don't, they don't know. Yeah. But the voice in American Idol is not the spot to go, you know, they don't care about the musicians, they just care about money. Yeah. They're, they look for the next pop star. They are. They're just looking for money. But like the biggest question was like, who would you pick if you were on The Voice? I was like Adam Levine a hundred percent straight up. Not Blake Sheldon. It's cool. I love country stuff, but like from my standpoint it would be Adam Levine. It'd be cool to do. Speaker 1 01:18:41 I think Adam's the best vocalist. Speaker 3 01:18:43 Oh my God. Yeah. To be a better vocalist, I don't think. Yeah. Yeah. Even Kelly Speaker 2 01:18:47 Clarkson now, who's, who's your dream co-write Speaker 3 01:18:50 My dream co-write Speaker 2 01:18:51 Your dream co-write. I know it's a tough question. We're gonna, we're gonna get into some more lighthearted stuff after this, I promise. Oh, Speaker 3 01:18:56 Dream co-write. Wow. That is a tough one. Speaker 2 01:19:00 Playing hardball. Speaker 3 01:19:03 I don't wanna say Hardy. Everybody wants to write with Hardy <laugh>. That's an easy one. Well, Speaker 2 01:19:07 It could even be somebody outside of country, you know? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You, you're, you're a guy that's kind of like, again, we talk about this fictional like box mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But like you're a guy that could write Right. With all kinds of different people. Yeah. I mean hell you just wrote with, you just said about the last single was with Quinn and Yeah. And um, McCoy, Speaker 3 01:19:25 Two totally different guys. Um, I don't know, probably like some guys from pop punk band. Like if I could write with the guys from all Time Low, that'd be awesome. Hell yeah. Yeah. Love hearing that. Some stuff like that. That's all I've been writing here lately. This pop You Speaker 1 01:19:39 And Butch Walker would be a cool write together. Speaker 2 01:19:40 Yeah. Speaker 3 01:19:41 Yeah. That would be cool. Speaker 2 01:19:42 He knows who Butch Walker is. Yeah, Speaker 3 01:19:44 I do. <laugh>. Yeah. I think, I mean Speaker 1 01:19:47 Some of his favorite bands are probably made by Speaker 3 01:19:48 Butch <laugh> I think. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I think guys in more of the Rock on the Popp punk scene would definitely be a cool, Speaker 2 01:19:54 Are there any rock bands that you really like right now? I mean, I know co just signed the Rock deal, so he's now gonna be, I still, Speaker 3 01:19:59 I always like Speaker 2 01:19:59 Co but is there another rock group that you like right now? Speaker 3 01:20:03 Like what kind of rock we talking? Just something Speaker 2 01:20:05 More mod something within the last few years. Speaker 3 01:20:10 Let me think. Bank Camino. Yeah, that's, that's it. Dream Co-Write Bank Camino. Okay. Speaker 1 01:20:16 They're, they're Speaker 2 01:20:17 Awesome. And they hang in Nashville a lot. Speaker 1 01:20:19 They went to Belmont. Speaker 2 01:20:20 Yeah. That could happen. And they're based outta Memphis. So that Speaker 3 01:20:22 I love Bank Camino. Oh my God. And Speaker 2 01:20:24 The fact that they tour with Dan and Shaa really said something. Yeah, exactly. Like the fact that the country, that a country booking agency and a country label was like, we want these guys with us. Speaker 3 01:20:32 That's such a good sound. Like it's, it's, it's different enough. Those Speaker 1 01:20:36 Albums are so full. Oh my God. Sonically like Speaker 3 01:20:40 This. That's what I'm saying when it comes to me and my buddies talk about this all the time when it comes to being a songwriter, you wanna write the best song, you wanna write the most clever lyric. You wanna do everything you can to make it a songwriter song. The regular consumer wants something they don't have to think about. Whenever I'm listening to a song as a consumer, I don't wanna think about what it means. I want it to tell me. So I can, Speaker 1 01:21:04 As a consumer, you want something I can, you can just like mindlessly all of a sudden sing. Speaker 3 01:21:08 I want to enjoy the song. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't want to have to sit there. Now if I'm searching at a band to think about stuff like that, that's great, but when I'm just riding the car, I don't wanna enjoy a song and not have to sit and like think about what that means. You know? That's cool. As a songwriter, you want to, you wanna have everything just as clever as possible. And that's kinda what I've been learning here lately. Which like I said, I don't know shit about songwriting, I'm just <laugh> I'm just doing it. I guess eventually I might learn, but Speaker 2 01:21:33 Yeah. Now we're gonna flip the gears cuz we haven't gotten to do one of these in a while. This is, and we got a lot of them. This is where Tyler talks a lot. So this is, this is a fun segment. Speaker 1 01:21:41 My favorite segment. It's Speaker 2 01:21:42 Been a while. So we have not had someone you said talk with Tyler, you said you don't know a lot about. Um, actually we, we can make this Twitter talk with Tyler, Twitter, talk with Tyler, Twitter, talk with Tyler. So something you don't know a lot about is like you say songwriter, what you, you you're great at by the way. Thanks man. Um, but you seen to know quite a bit about Twitter and quite a bit about making some interesting, funny tweets on Twitter. So Tyler, are Speaker 3 01:22:01 You going back to my Twitter? Oh, Speaker 1 01:22:02 I went all the way back Speaker 2 01:22:03 Tyler. So Tyler, Tyler has some Twitter troll accounts. We keep them remained anonymous and he goes after Big 10 football and certain people that think certain songs were cut by certain people and not actually one original. He's, he gets rowdy. Speaker 3 01:22:15 Let's, let's hope I don't have anything bad in there that you, Speaker 2 01:22:17 It's Speaker 1 01:22:18 Gonna be good. The first one is from just a month or so ago. Okay. Oh Speaker 2 01:22:21 Wow. It was recent Speaker 1 01:22:22 Officially sweatpants on my ass in the morning and swept my ass off in the afternoon season. <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:22:28 Yeah. It's like, when is that? End of September? Yeah. And it's like 50 degrees in the morning, like, damn, it's cold and then it gets like 85 in the afternoon. Yeah. Like, damn my ass sweaty. Speaker 1 01:22:37 This is a good one. This is from 2019 February, 2019. I wish some guys in country music had beef, like hip-hop duds, like disc tracks with some fiddle. Speaker 3 01:22:48 Dude, think about that. Think about that. Like MGK and Eminem. Speaker 1 01:22:53 Yeah. Speaker 3 01:22:54 What if John Parti and Brooks and Dunn had like a, a master cue <laugh>. Think about the songs that would come outta that. You know, that'd be great. Speaker 1 01:23:01 My bass is bigger than yours. Speaker 3 01:23:03 <laugh> Literally, I would be so much more funny than watching dudes like actually spit raps at each other if we had actually like really floating melodies. It's Speaker 2 01:23:11 Just everybody's so nice. Yeah. Everybody's too nice. Or at least that's the perception, but deep down there, there's definitely some beefs that could be, Speaker 3 01:23:18 Oh my god, dude, there's, I don't know. Speaker 2 01:23:19 I mean there, Speaker 3 01:23:19 There's so much beef. I wish there was more attitude in country music. Well it Speaker 2 01:23:23 Go, it, it might start coming soon. Speaker 1 01:23:24 There you go. That there, Speaker 3 01:23:26 That's what we need <laugh>. We need, we need attitude. We need dudes with a I don't give a shit kinda attitude. Well, it's coming. I mean, instead of everybody just being like, eh, I'm just bland Speaker 1 01:23:36 Alabama weather's ass. Don't fight me on it. Speaker 3 01:23:39 Oh it is ass Bama weather's terrible. Tell me it's not. Speaker 1 01:23:42 Oh dude, it's the worst. Speaker 3 01:23:43 Tell me Alabama weather's not terrible. All right, here's an example of Bama weather. Christmas day two years ago. It was 78 degrees outside five years ago on my birthday and March 21st it snowed for two days. Speaker 1 01:23:55 You, you Speaker 3 01:23:56 Thees. That was cold. It had been so long. Why? Speaker 1 01:23:59 Yeah, for Alabama. Like our cold season, there's like two weeks in February. Speaker 3 01:24:02 Why? It's not even cold until January. Yeah. And I'm out there trying to play baseball and throw a curve ball with no feeling in my fingers. Fucking how Speaker 1 01:24:10 Do I do that? Coming back the first week after Christmas break was always the first week of, uh, baseball workout start. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like Speaker 3 01:24:18 First week after 28 Speaker 1 01:24:20 Degrees when you're trying to keep your Speaker 3 01:24:21 Arm warm. Yes. It second week of January and it's 35 degrees outside. And he's like, come on boys, you're running 16 poles. That's what, and my face is chapped completely. That's Speaker 2 01:24:31 That's Speaker 3 01:24:31 What, and here I am trying to get a date to like Speaker 2 01:24:34 <laugh> Speaker 3 01:24:34 To like, what is it we call it, we call it elite night. Um, what is it called? It's um, other people call, it's like who's who? Dance. You remember those things? Speaker 1 01:24:42 Oh, we didn't have one. Y Speaker 3 01:24:43 Didn't have one of those Speaker 2 01:24:44 Weren't enough people. Y'all Speaker 3 01:24:46 Had like seven people in your whole school. Can't dance with your cousin and your sister at the same Speaker 2 01:24:51 Time. I mean, Speaker 3 01:24:53 Hey all wt y d baby road tight. That's what I'm talking about. Getting got a meet her family if you're already a part of the family. That's what I Speaker 2 01:25:00 Say. Oh gosh. <laugh>. Oh man, you got it. One more Speaker 1 01:25:04 Tyler. Yeah, I got one more. This is a humble brag but I also, I I I think he meant it as a humble brag, but I'm saying as an Alabama person, these are peewee numbers. Jalen Hertz is 18 and led his team to the national championship game. Meanwhile, I finished two gallons of sweet tea and under three hours, <laugh>. Three hours Speaker 3 01:25:27 Dude. Okay. So that three hours, that was when I was watching uh, two gallons of What year was that? That was Speaker 2 01:25:33 Jalen Hertz was 18 in the NFL now. Speaker 3 01:25:35 Yeah. Yeah. That was when, that was 16. Yeah, that was when we won championship in 16. Jalen won his first championship. I sat on the couch and I had two jugs mind on a sweet tea, drank 'em all, watching the game. Probably peed six times during the game and I was like, damn, three Speaker 1 01:25:50 Hours Speaker 3 01:25:50 Man. I'm just, I hit me cuz that was the time Jalen me and Jalen is the same age. Um, I think he might be a year older either way. He was in the position of what I wanted to do and I was like, holy shit man. That's cool. Damn, I'm a piece of shit. Look at me, lay on this couch, <laugh>. He's out there scoring touchdowns on Ash. I'm watching him do it, and here I am, done. Went through a whole bag of Fritos <laugh> and two gowns of sweet tea. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Speaker 1 01:26:21 So, wow. That brings me to the next question, being from Alabama. What is the perfect amount of sugar and sweet tea? Speaker 3 01:26:28 A lot? Who Speaker 2 01:26:29 So Milo's does. Milo's perfected it. Speaker 3 01:26:31 The perfect amount of sugar is whatever your grandma decides to put in there. She, grandma has no measuring cup. I remember she had, my grandma had a a, a uh, yellow bucket. I'm like visualizing my head a yellow bucket. It's about this big, maybe a foot tall. And I had like this white lid that looked like a lily pad or whatever. Speaker 1 01:26:51 Yeah. It's the quintessential grandma. Everybody knows. Everybody knows, everybody Speaker 3 01:26:54 Knows whats one kind of contain That is the Speaker 2 01:26:56 Dom, the domino sugar. Exactly. Speaker 3 01:26:58 Yeah. And she had like this little uh, scooper cup in there. It wasn't a measuring cup or anything. I think it might've been a solo cup <laugh>, but it's just big old jug and she'd just take it and dump it in there. And maybe that's not enough. Maybe it is. I who, who knows? She does. It's always Speaker 1 01:27:15 The best. I was always the pre eye, Speaker 3 01:27:17 Exact same every time. And there's no measuring whatsoever. She his eyeballs. And I'm like, how in the world does this taste the same every time? It's the sweetest sweet tea you've ever had in your whole life. Gives you type two diabetes after three dr three drinks of them <laugh>. It's ridiculous. Speaker 2 01:27:31 Love, love hearing that man. I, yeah. What Speaker 1 01:27:33 Uh, what kind of sweet tea do you drink though? Speaker 3 01:27:36 I don't drink sweets tea anymore. Speaker 1 01:27:37 Well, whenever you did. Yeah. Hell Speaker 3 01:27:39 Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to get back on my, yeah, I Speaker 2 01:27:41 Want, I wanted to ask you, so what, uh, real quick, and this, this will be fun. This red diamond. This a funny question. Red, red Diamond, Speaker 1 01:27:46 Louisiana. Dude, Speaker 3 01:27:47 You like Louisiana. Yeah. See, I like Milo's always gimme a headache for some reason. So yes. Same Speaker 1 01:27:51 Milo's. Speaker 3 01:27:52 Milo's just kind of asked. Yeah, well you get, Speaker 2 01:27:53 Well you get the sugar come down because it's so sugary. Speaker 3 01:27:56 Red, red diamond is just enough sugar. It's just, it's not overly saturated. I can drink sugar sweet tea all day long, but if you drink more like Speaker 1 01:28:03 Glass Yeah. Who has the most sugar ever? Yeah. I don't know if you ever had it, but Church's chicken. Sweet tea. Speaker 2 01:28:08 Oh, church's. I've had, Speaker 3 01:28:09 I can truthfully say I've never had anything from Church's chicken. Speaker 1 01:28:11 Okay. Well we had a church's chicken in our town. There Speaker 3 01:28:14 Was one in like a bad part of town and whatever. Speaker 1 01:28:16 It was Speaker 2 01:28:16 In a bad part of town. We're, we're in Antioch or there's one about a mile away. Speaker 1 01:28:20 Get something real quick. We want something Speaker 2 01:28:21 Like Definitely Speaker 3 01:28:23 I'm kinda hungry. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:28:24 Mean like, anyway, so for, for you, I mean, you're, there's a big thing in town. I'm starting to get into it. I've been eating oatmeal and fucking ground Turkey and working out. It's the work. I'm, I'm like, it's terrible. I'm, I'm on day three right now. Yeah. Um, and we'll have more information in later podcasts We working on maybe potentially getting a sponsor through me doing a work, me doing some, working with a guy that does meal prep and all that stuff. Okay. Um, but for you, what's the best advice for, for a fat, lazy fuck like me? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what's the best advice to look like you and also how much do you bench press because you're one of the stronger motherfuckers We know, we know a lot of strong southern little motherfuckers in this town. Speaker 3 01:29:01 Yeah. There's a lot of us. Um, so I'm the worst to ask about workout advice cuz I can truthfully say I work for none of what I have. It's strictly genetic. I do a little bit, but whenever I was doing right, Speaker 1 01:29:12 Same. Yeah. <laugh> Speaker 3 01:29:15 Bro. Damn ta. When, whenever I was doing something and I was trying to, I was in the best shape of my life coming outta my high school, like two summers after my high school graduation. And, uh, I was eating Turkey rice, watching my vegetables, or not watching my vegetables, watching, uh, my macros counting my macros, making sure everything was right. It was just so much stress. And I was like, why am I doing this? Like myta was through the roof right now, I shouldn't even need to do this, but I looked fantastic. I had veins in my abs <laugh>, like I was Speaker 2 01:29:44 Sweaty. Yeah. I'm, we're working on, we got a, we got a little, got little hairy New York beard Speaker 3 01:29:48 Guy. Right. She's down there in the, in the case. Man, that's six packs there. She just, my deep in the cooler Speaker 2 01:29:52 Know, I'm, my promise is I ain't had a six pack in over four years. I, the Speaker 3 01:29:55 Biggest thing that'll help you is literally just thinking about it. When you don't think about what you eat and you're like, oh, this, this meal won't hurt. Each meal does, it's fine to have a cheat meal, but if you just make it, it's a one meal a day kind of thing. It's not like you have to section out your whole day. It's what you're eating this time and then you make a good decision in the morning. A good decision is probably gonna lead off in the, at lunchtime, if you make a better decision at lunchtime, you're going to eat good at night. But if you start bad in the morning, it's gonna screw you all over the whole day, you know? Speaker 2 01:30:26 Yeah. Cheerios with milk and a cup of black coffee. No creamer to this morning. I usually, it's tough, man. I used to put creamer in it. I'm such a cream sugar guy in my coffee, but you, you Speaker 3 01:30:34 Can do cream. I, I'd always put cream in my coffee. It's like 30 calories or something like that. But, uh, the biggest thing is not let yourself get hungry. If you let yourself get hungry, you're not home. You're gonna stop and get something. Speaker 2 01:30:45 Especially being on the road as much, as much as I am constantly. Speaker 3 01:30:47 Exactly. Speaker 2 01:30:48 Them. There's so many fast food joints down here. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:30:50 Whenever we get back on the road, I'm, I'm bringing my Yeti cooler on with us and we're just gonna have That's what, Speaker 2 01:30:54 That's what I, I might, I might meals, I might throw some containers in the, because dude, Speaker 3 01:30:58 You spend so much Speaker 2 01:30:58 Money, dude. Speaker 3 01:30:59 Yeah. So much money and we don't make, make a lot of money anyways. You're Speaker 1 01:31:02 Just so cheap just to buy a family pack of chicken breast. Yeah. And a pack of like Exactly. Speaker 3 01:31:06 Good. But you don't think about pulling into, you know, I don't know, McDonald's at 2:00 AM and grabbing something for eight bucks. You don't think about that $8 until you do it three times a weekend when you're on the road and then you stop at a restaurant and you get something, you know, you get breakfast at a gas station somewhere that adds up. You spend like 7,500 bucks on just eating out, Speaker 2 01:31:27 Out sausage, sausage, biscuits add up. Yeah. Oh Speaker 3 01:31:29 Yeah, dude. So I mean, you already spend money on groceries back home. So I don't, not just take it with you, but I guess the biggest thing is just to have a routine. That's what helped me a lot. How Speaker 2 01:31:37 Important is the water intake? Because I've heard a lot of people about gallon water a day and all that stuff. Speaker 3 01:31:41 Not really. It's good to drink water, but I've never, now, like I said, I don't know really anything about it because I don't work for anything that I have, but just here <laugh>. So, um, I mean, I know how to work out, I'll tell you that, but I don't, I'm not good on my diet at all. Speaker 2 01:31:54 Didn't answer the bench press question because we always fuck with you. You can, your Speaker 3 01:31:57 House. My highest, my highest bench press was 365. Speaker 2 01:32:00 365. Speaker 3 01:32:01 Yeah. No, I can't do that now, but I did that in February of last year. You're, you're Speaker 2 01:32:05 Fi you said you're fi you're five seven. You're not, you're not the biggest Uber, but you can fucking put up weight. That's crazy. What's your squat? What's your squat? Speaker 3 01:32:12 I, my squat got up to four 50. Geez. My brother can squat more than I can though. Ethan squatted. He may correct me on this, but I think Ethan squatted like four 70 his, his junior year of high school. Geez. And he's, and his coach would let him go. He's 130 pounds squatting that <laugh>. I'm like, damn, son. No wonder you five foot three, you got so much damn weight on you back cuz holding you down. Yeah. We're all short people anyways, but, uh, which Speaker 2 01:32:36 Helps. Speaker 3 01:32:37 But yeah, 365 and four 50. I don't know. I I couldn't tell you why I'm so strong. My dad's just was strong in high school. It's that Speaker 2 01:32:46 Alabama strength Speaker 3 01:32:47 Man. It is. It's that redneck stuff, dude. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:32:49 <laugh>. Yeah. He's real. Oh, hazels. Speaker 3 01:32:51 He's got a little bit of stupid in us that helps <laugh>. You know, Speaker 2 01:32:55 You don't have the stupid kids Speaker 3 01:32:57 Are always the strongest Speaker 2 01:32:58 One. You don't, you don't have as much right here. You got it. You got it. All right. Speaker 3 01:33:00 Exactly. Whatever. What used up here got pushed down to my biceps and my legs. Hell Speaker 2 01:33:04 Yeah dude. Hell yeah man. Well hey dude, this has been a freaking blast. Um, you wanna play? That's fine. You cool playing a song for us? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. All you wanna play? You wanna play? Um, you wanna play that new one you got? Yeah, I'll play new. Hell yeah. So, so we're gonna have Elijah playing drunk here in just a second. Um, real quick, wanna remind everybody we got a Raiders round tomorrow night at Live Oak. Um, and also wanna give a shout out to our friend Bailey. We met, I met her last night from when we're recording this, um, at our last Raiders round. Shout out to everybody who came out to live Oak and, uh, had a good time. Uh, we were at capacity about 40 minutes in, which is incredible. Uh, for these times. I know it's limited capacity, but still, uh, the fact that many folks wanted to come out see the show that we put on was awesome. Speaker 2 01:33:44 Chat to everybody. The play Trey Lewis played Dick down in Dallas and the whole crowd sang Rays Rowdy, uploaded a video to all of their social media pages of Dick down in Dallas with Joy Beth, Ella Langley and Alex Maxwell singing along on stage. It was incredible. The atmosphere was electric. But uh, for tomorrow night we have got, uh, we got some of your buddies. We got Blaine Rudd, we got McCoy, we got John o' Clayton. We got, um, oh, that's right. Yeah, we got Cameron Marlowe, we got Peyton Smith, we got Clay Barker, we got Tooton Speaker 3 01:34:12 Brothers. Is that next week? 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