Anas Kestay & Rene Castro of Elusive Studio

[00:00:12] Speaker A: Come on. This is outside the round with Matt Barrel, a razor alley podcast. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Boys here with two of my favorite guys in Nashville, the guys that weren't the owner and one of. And the guy that personally cuts my hair. We got Anas. How do I say your last name? [00:00:34] Speaker A: I was fucking Kareem. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Kareem? [00:00:36] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Anas. Kareem. And Renee Castro. [00:00:39] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:00:41] Speaker B: And we got Tyson over there. We got some of the best barbers in the city of Nashville. Elusive studio. If you guys are ever looking for a place to get your damn haircut, we don't do free ads, but with these boys here, elusive studio guys, it's cool to hang out with you outside of the shop. [00:00:57] Speaker C: It's a different vibe. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it is a different vibe. Welcome to the studio. What do you guys think, bro? [00:01:01] Speaker A: I love it. Amazing. [00:01:03] Speaker C: I did not expect this to be. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Out here, you know, like behind a tractor supply. [00:01:10] Speaker C: I wasn't gonna say the location. [00:01:11] Speaker B: You're good. We can say it. Shout out to city limit studios. Mitch and hope gowdy. The. But it's like, with Nikki T and I, it's like we come in and you're. People are always like, how legit are these guys? And our goal is to try and get as legit as we can while still being us. So it's like, this is like, we're almost legit. We're, like, 92% legit. Like, we're getting there. [00:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Slowly but surely. Yeah. [00:01:34] Speaker B: So how long have you boys been. Been in Nashville? [00:01:37] Speaker C: My life. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Yeah, my whole life. [00:01:39] Speaker B: You guys are born and raised. Oh, it's summit. Both of you guys? [00:01:44] Speaker A: Summit Hospital, General Baptist Hospital. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm down the street. I was born down the street. [00:01:50] Speaker B: No shit? [00:01:51] Speaker C: Same place my son was born. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Oh, really? Yeah. You're a dad? Are you a dad yet? [00:01:55] Speaker A: No, not yet. [00:01:56] Speaker B: Not yet. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Hopefully soon. [00:01:57] Speaker B: But you got the wife? [00:01:58] Speaker A: I do got the wife. Hopefully soon. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:01] Speaker A: I don't have that. I don't have that. [00:02:04] Speaker C: No, it's working, though. [00:02:06] Speaker B: I got the girlfriend. So you guys have elusive studio. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:02:11] Speaker B: How long have you been over there? [00:02:13] Speaker A: We've been running this shop for about five years now. The first. I'll say to what? The first two. Two years was so fucking terrible. I'm talking about homeless people to run down cities. [00:02:24] Speaker B: It's in a. The spot of the herm. [00:02:26] Speaker A: That is murder corner. They call it murder corner. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Murder corner. [00:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:30] Speaker C: Apparently, back in the day, apparently they called it murder corner. I never had it called that, you know, but I haven't. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Murdered corner. I didn't know, like it was. How long ago was it called that? [00:02:41] Speaker A: Oh, for like a decade. [00:02:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like old heads that come in and say, oh, this is murder corner. So I don't know how far that goes back. You know what I mean? [00:02:50] Speaker A: So we have some crazy ass shit. I'm so there was one time a homeless woman. Yeah, crackhead woman, butt naked outside in the parking lot. I'm like, bro, what are the odds of this? [00:03:01] Speaker B: I've seen. Because I've seen some shit at the Kroger down the street. Cuz that's where all, that's where all, that's where all that's, that's a notorious spot for, for tour buses. Like guys going out on tour for all of us leave our cars because that's like you have to have a big parking lot where you do bus call. So it's where everybody meets up to get on the bus or get in the van then go on the road. Well, it's like where what other parking lots? So many, there's so many guys. There's, it's just, it's a spot where probably like ten or eleven tours go out of each weekend. And like if you drive by there on the weekends, you'll just see like clusters of cars all parked together. Like closer to where the outback is. But there was a guy, we coined him. You guys ever heard of Wesley Willis? He's like an artist. I'll play him for you after this. He's like a fun, like, it's like a funny thing. But he was also like not all there in the head. And he used to go on tour and do whatever, but there was like a guy who was clearly on like drugs are not all there, but he used to start shit in the Kroger parking lot all the time. And like, you see stuff like with. [00:04:07] Speaker A: The homeless people with, with us. [00:04:09] Speaker B: He was, he was a homeless guy starting stuff with everybody. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [00:04:12] Speaker B: And one time, one time we gave him a bunch of delta eight. [00:04:15] Speaker A: How that? [00:04:15] Speaker B: He asked us for like beer and I was like, dude, I got a bunch of delta. He drank all of it and he was still there the next week. So he lived. But murder corner, that's why I did not know that that area was called that because you guys got some. I always, I always say that like the, the shopping center that you guys are in is just the best. Like it's. You got a, you got a vape shop, like head shop next to it. You got a sushi place, you got. [00:04:38] Speaker C: A little brings all that over, you. [00:04:39] Speaker B: Know, you see a little bit. You see a little bit of everything over there. [00:04:42] Speaker C: It's one of those places where it's like, if you know. You know. You know what I mean? [00:04:45] Speaker B: We don't. [00:04:46] Speaker C: We don't really advertise as much as we should, but, you know, you don't. I mean, we here now. [00:04:50] Speaker B: Right? Yeah, you don't need. You don't need to advertise when it speaks for itself. Yeah. And with the. I just love going in there. Like, I was talking to Renee when he. When he got here. Like, I think I just need to start, like, it's the kind of environment where I just want to go and kick it. [00:05:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:05] Speaker B: Like, if I'm not even getting cut, I just want to go and chill in the chairs. Cause, like, the conversations are always so fun. Guys have such a good crew over there. So you said, how many years have you been? [00:05:15] Speaker A: We've been there for five years now. [00:05:16] Speaker B: So you guys were there pre COVID? [00:05:18] Speaker A: Mm hmm. I was by myself for a little bit until. And then on and off with certain people, but until what? Two. Two years? That's when the whole team started coming. [00:05:29] Speaker C: I was still in barber school when COVID hit. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:05:32] Speaker C: And that was pretty rough. [00:05:34] Speaker B: What was cutting hair during COVID Like, cuz I remember. I remember my hair. I was. When I got. I started growing out my hair. I used to be a buzz cut bro. I used to be a buzz cut guy. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Really? [00:05:42] Speaker B: And now it's. Yeah, you probably know my hair so long. I was a buzz cut guy, like, my whole life, and I had this curly hair. My mom was always, like, grow the hair. And then during COVID I grew it out. I was like, oh, shit, okay. Yeah. Everybody was, like, nervous, like, regulations and stuff. You guys deal with a lot of that shit. [00:05:59] Speaker A: That shows so fucking stupid. I'm talking about, we had. People will come in just a snitch on you. Like, legit snitch. Like, don't even want to get a haircut. They'll walk in, check in the shop, like, oh, how many people you guys got? Oh, four or five people. Blah, blah, blah. And then 20 minutes later, you get a phone call or phone text and be like, hey, you got too many people in there. Blah, blah, blah. Passing protocols. I'm like, what the fuck? Just. Who's. Who snitched on me? What just happened? [00:06:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I just had people pulling up to the house, $50, 60. You know, I was still in barber school, so, like, at that time, I was charging 15, so dollar 60 is like, ooh, yeah, bring it on, come over prices now. [00:06:37] Speaker B: Damn. Yeah, yeah, cuz I mean, it's. I found out about you guys through Nikki T. And I forget how Nikki found out about you guys. [00:06:45] Speaker C: Honestly, I was thinking about it the other day. I don't know if he like, made an appointment, like through somebody told him. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Because I remember somebody saying, I got a guy, Renee, and it's in hermitage. And Nick's like, wait, I live in hermitage. It's right around the corner. Damn. [00:06:58] Speaker C: Shout out to that guy. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Shout out to whoever that was. [00:07:00] Speaker C: Cuz I don't remember. [00:07:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz I used to drive down to cool springs to get a haircut at a different establishment. It was like double and it was double, it was double the price. [00:07:08] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:10] Speaker C: Service better? [00:07:11] Speaker B: No, no, I mean, it was, it was a cool, it was like a cool spot, but it was like, like a bougie cut. And I was like, I just need a, need a barber shop where like the folks in there are cool. [00:07:21] Speaker A: And it's like where a man could be a man. Yeah. [00:07:23] Speaker B: And where the conversation just goes all over the place. You guys got some incredible characters in there. Yeah, like the conversation. Yeah, so many personalities. Like, how does that, how does that. How do you find, like, the crew to be in the barbershop as the guy running the joint? Like, how does that work? Do people just kind of walk in and just be like, hey, can I cut hair here? Or like, how does that all work? What's the process? Like, I don't know how barbershops and shit work. [00:07:48] Speaker A: I kind of feel like everybody came in, like wanting to come over there, if that makes sense. Cause at first nobody wanted to work there. It was just me. And then out of nowhere, Renee came and Jasmine came and everybody was like, oh, then Taz came. I was like, what's going on? Within one whole year, or actually a month, everybody just started coming. I'm like, what's going on? And everybody just clicked. We had some fights. [00:08:13] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, we had a big family, you know, we hash it out now. We're trying to improve, but, you know, the people that are there are supposed to be there, the people that aren't, you know. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's all. Only the strong survive. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Only the strong survive. Yeah. Well, the conversation last time was our boy Tyler. Well, last time I was in there, Tyler's a hoot. Tyler's a hoot. I mean, we asked him to come and hang out tonight, but he's a hoot, man. Nikki T and I always say that and, like, when Tyler will pop out to our events sometimes and he's just a funny guy. [00:08:45] Speaker C: He's just there. [00:08:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's chilling. [00:08:47] Speaker B: He's just there. But then you hear these stories of, like, what he gets into with stuff. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:53] Speaker B: And it's like, Renee told me he's like, Tyler was gonna be, but he got invited to a poker game with a bunch of NFL players. [00:08:58] Speaker A: I'm like. [00:09:02] Speaker B: The clientele that you guys meet and, like, you guys got the soccer jersey up on the wall, and you guys are connected very well with the soccer club in town. All different people. Like, who was, like, the first high profile person you'd remember? You remember cutting? Cause I feel like that doesn't just happen. Like, you kind of have somebody that kind of, like, breaks the gate open. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Of, like, I'll say this. We had a lot of high profile clients that come in, but at the same time, I didn't know because I never follow their instagrams or anything like that. And what, I guess the first athlete was cast, a Robert Castellanos. He now plays for Kansas City. And he's actually the reason why I'm actually cutting the MLS right now. [00:09:45] Speaker B: So you cut. You got. Between all you guys, you probably cut the whole team, right? [00:09:48] Speaker A: Pretty much, yeah, pretty much. We got the Titans on lockdown. Taz and Tyler got them on lock. We got the MLS unlocked. Next is the NHL, hopefully. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Yeah, those guys got flow, too. Like the hair. The NHL guys, they let their hair go, so that would be definitely some guys. Hey, hold that mic. Try and talk into that. Into that microphone. These are new mic stands, by the way. Shout out to Nikki T for ordering these mics. There you go. There he is. [00:10:13] Speaker A: There we go. [00:10:14] Speaker B: He's back. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Why are you holding it like that? [00:10:16] Speaker A: Why are you holding it? What's wrong? Why don't you hold it like this? I can't caress this mic right now. [00:10:21] Speaker C: You can do whatever you want, bro. [00:10:22] Speaker A: I can care if I wanted to. She. [00:10:27] Speaker C: Oh, that's funny. [00:10:29] Speaker A: So it's low. [00:10:36] Speaker B: In the radio world. So those are the microphones that I came up talking in when I was doing radio back in the day. And they're called re twenties and they're. They're solid microphones. They're great. And. But in the radio world, and, like, the audio community, people call those mics the donkey dick. [00:10:52] Speaker C: No way. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Donkey dick. [00:10:53] Speaker C: The donkey just knew. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Middle Eastern. You knew? Yes. You got a spanking. [00:11:02] Speaker B: I know you're of mexican heritage. Where in the Middle east is your family from? [00:11:05] Speaker A: Kurdistan. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Kurdistan yeah. [00:11:07] Speaker A: Kurdish? [00:11:08] Speaker B: Kurdish? Yeah. Nice. And are you a first generation american? Is your family been here for a while? [00:11:14] Speaker A: Well, I'm the first generation to be born here, yes. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:17] Speaker A: My parents were refugees from over there, and then they flew over here. Well, actually, they flew to Texas then. From Texas to Tennessee. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:25] Speaker B: Nice. And then your family just swam and jump. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Oh, she hit the border, you know. [00:11:32] Speaker B: How long is your family. How long has your family been here? [00:11:35] Speaker C: I think my mom's been here since she was, like, 16 or 17, because. [00:11:39] Speaker B: I first knew that you were like, your family spoke a lot of Spanish because I think one of the first cuts that I got from you, there was a phone call, and then you just started going in Spanish. I was like, I took some spanish in high school and in college. I have no idea what this guy. [00:11:55] Speaker C: Really good English. He just chooses not. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah, no. What was the food that you had that one time? It was like, after a holiday, was it not? Tapas? What the heck was it? You had some food that was, like, from a family party or something. Tamales. Yeah. [00:12:09] Speaker C: Fire, you got. Eat the. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Did you bring them into the shop? [00:12:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I brought some, and Jared has brought some, too. [00:12:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:12:15] Speaker C: And then Nino brought some, too. We all had the debate whose tamales are better. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I was there for. For tamale. [00:12:20] Speaker C: I think. I think Jared took. [00:12:22] Speaker B: I was elusive to Molly fest. Yeah. Was like, that was. That was an epic. [00:12:26] Speaker A: That was actually my first time trying that. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that was my first time trying authentic. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:31] Speaker C: Husk with it, too. [00:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah, the husk kind of weirded me out. I'm like, what is this? Like, a piece of corn? Like, what's the husk you got? Is it corn? Is it. Is it corn husk? [00:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm so confused. [00:12:43] Speaker C: Nah, you don't eat the husk, bro. You don't eat the husk. [00:12:48] Speaker A: What is that? [00:12:49] Speaker B: Like, the outside, like, the outside of the corn? Like, how, you know, corns and, like, the green husk. [00:12:54] Speaker A: That's called a husk. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Yeah, that's like Nebraska. They're called the corn Huskers. Their college, that's like their mascot, because they got nothing but corn out there. You ever heard of that? [00:13:03] Speaker A: I've never heard of that. [00:13:04] Speaker C: Kurdish problems. [00:13:07] Speaker A: Imagine somebody who lived under the shelter for the rest when they were a kid. That's a nice problem. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Did you, were you sheltered a lot as a kid? [00:13:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:13:14] Speaker B: Is that just middle eastern culture? [00:13:16] Speaker A: No, I just. I didn't understand shit. And then every time I was in school asking people, hey, what's the fuck does that mean? They'll just bust out laughing like, bro, how the fuck you don't know what that means? I'm like, I bitch. Like, you don't want to tell me. I did. [00:13:28] Speaker B: You know, I feel like I was. [00:13:30] Speaker C: The same way too then. Cause Tyler, you know, Tyler says a lot of sayings. That's normal. That's common. And me and I asked and Taz, like, what the fuck? Where. Where'd you learn to say that shit? And they're like, no country. [00:13:39] Speaker A: The country sayings. [00:13:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:41] Speaker A: What the hell? [00:13:41] Speaker B: Tyler is a perfect portrayal of middle Tennessee. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Like, you want to know what a guy in middle Tennessee is? Like, like, Tyler, everybody. He's that character, you know? [00:13:53] Speaker A: Yeah, man, he stayed going. [00:13:58] Speaker B: I love him talking about his stories going out on the town, too. Yeah, man, I had this girl with me and this. We're gonna have to get Tyler on here for another episode so we can talk about. We're going to do that. He's playing a high stakes poker game tonight where he's probably gonna be giving away some free haircuts over here. [00:14:15] Speaker A: Give him a new nickname. Mister Instagram. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Mister Instagram. [00:14:20] Speaker C: That's the joke. Like, he'll talk to these girls. [00:14:22] Speaker B: Oh, he's a DMR. He's a DM boy. No, no. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Not even you can care. [00:14:27] Speaker C: I'm not gonna expose him like that. That's how you, bro. [00:14:32] Speaker B: Bottom line, though, Tyler gives an incredible haircut if you're looking for a guy to cut your hair. I mean, these two guys, Taz over there or Tyler, anybody in the shop, really? You guys have won awards at the shop, too? [00:14:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Did we hear the results of this past year? [00:14:46] Speaker C: I don't think this year, I don't. [00:14:47] Speaker A: Think we want it. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Damn, I started coming. You'll lose the fucking awards. [00:14:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm a man, Nikki T. I don't think this year we advertise it and it was so last minute, we're like, hey, what happened? [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Like, are they doing it this year? And then I was like, oh, shit. [00:15:00] Speaker C: It wasn't our best year either. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:02] Speaker B: What do you mean by it wasn't your best year? [00:15:03] Speaker C: We were just going through things. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah. A lot of. [00:15:05] Speaker C: As a family. [00:15:06] Speaker A: Yeah. A lot of fighting and bickering and arguing. I was just like, damn, how do we get everybody to come in? [00:15:14] Speaker B: I like. Well, I love. That's part of my favorite part about elusive is the way there is communication. Wasn't arguing. It's just everybody's got opinion on something and somebody's in there for 45 minutes sitting in the chair. [00:15:26] Speaker C: That's the problem. You're only there for 45. [00:15:32] Speaker B: I don't see before the shift or after the shift or anything or anything like that. How long you guys, what time do you get there in the morning to open up? [00:15:40] Speaker A: Usually at 10:00. Some of us get there early, like nine, eight. But most of the time 10:00. [00:15:46] Speaker C: I've been doing eight to nine. Just depends. Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays are busier days. I'm there at eight or nine. But, but I mean, we all got our keys. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:15:55] Speaker C: Yeah, we make our own schedule, so. [00:15:58] Speaker A: I'll let them be their own bosses. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Dude, that's the way to do it. That's honestly the way to do it. I love how you guys are branding everything too. Like, with all this, all the shirts. [00:16:06] Speaker A: Like, all the merch fitting your shoes. [00:16:09] Speaker B: I love how you guys are, like, growing it. It's cool hearing, like, all the different, like, business talk of you guys growing this thing and making it more than just like a shop. Like, it's an experience. When I, when I go in there, I look forward to it. I look forward to the characters that I'm gonna meet, the other guys and girls. I have people coming in bitching about not getting their sub. But what was the day? There was one day I was in there. Subway was running a deal. It was like three $3 subs or something. [00:16:32] Speaker A: And somebody just has taz. [00:16:39] Speaker C: Well, cuz the girl that was working there, she has like, I think she had just clocked out and then she was like, hey, subway is doing that. And then we all rush over there. She went and told every little store at the plaza. So everybody went over, she told the map co people and everything. So everybody went up there and then test just had to be the last one to get cut. [00:16:56] Speaker B: She ruined it. [00:16:57] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, nah, she was helping us out. He was just busy. [00:17:00] Speaker A: It was a guy that was in there that was like, no, no. [00:17:03] Speaker B: You know, I was like, hey, like the soup Nazi. No soup for you. [00:17:09] Speaker A: I thought they're gonna help a bread out, but they're like, no. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Another thing that I, that I love is the culture and like, how everybody's like a little bit different. Like, yeah, I refer to it as like the United nations in there. And I mean that in like, the best way possible because, like, you do have so many different personalities and something that I, that I, that I enjoyed from my last visit, which, by the way, thank you, as always, for the cut. I get compliments on all the time. Like, where do you get your hair cut? I'm, like, elusive. [00:17:36] Speaker A: They need to come. [00:17:36] Speaker C: They need to come. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Go see the gang. Elusive. The best. Everybody doing Ramadan with you and fasting. So you have a bottle of water? [00:17:46] Speaker C: I broke my fast. I have been sick. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Did you make it longer on this year than you did last year? Last year? [00:17:51] Speaker C: That's funny. Last year I did it four days and I tapped out. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:55] Speaker C: This year I did five, but I got sick. [00:18:00] Speaker B: What day number are we on right now? You keep count or. [00:18:04] Speaker A: No, no, not really, but. Well, it was last Monday. Yeah, almost two weeks. [00:18:14] Speaker C: I want you to tell them to. What? [00:18:16] Speaker A: What? [00:18:16] Speaker B: What? [00:18:16] Speaker C: You sent me on instagram about being sick during Ramadan. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Oh. So we have a saying about that. Like, if you. If you're actually sick during Ramadan is basically saying that you have a lot of sins that's being washed away. [00:18:27] Speaker C: A lot of them. Damn. [00:18:29] Speaker A: But you mean. Yeah. [00:18:33] Speaker C: It said scenes. Not a lot of scenes. [00:18:36] Speaker A: A sin. A sin. [00:18:38] Speaker C: I guess you're right, bro. [00:18:39] Speaker A: But if you want me to baptize. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Y'All, bet that's cool, though. Like, how many. How many guys are doing? I know. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Doing it so far, just Taz or Renee. [00:18:51] Speaker C: I'm gonna do it after today. [00:18:53] Speaker B: Oh, you're gonna start. [00:18:54] Speaker C: You can. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Oh, you can pick back up. [00:18:55] Speaker C: That's what they didn't tell me last year. Last year I did four days and I thought, like, okay, I'm done. I can't do it no more. You know what I mean? But then I found out you can pick back up, so I'm still recovering from being sick, so, you know. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:08] Speaker B: What's your. What's your. When you. When the fast is over, what's the first meal that you're. What are you having for breakfast? [00:19:15] Speaker A: Breakfast? [00:19:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Yeah. At 05:00 so I wake up at. [00:19:18] Speaker B: 05:00 you're a madman. Yeah, you're a madman. [00:19:21] Speaker A: Getting up at 05:00 a.m.. Man, just waking. Really? Gotta wake up at what, four something? Yeah. Get ready. Do your. We call it a woodoo. It's basically like a cleanse off on your body before your prayer. And after I do my woodoo, I go downstairs, probably get some cereals, and if I don't got cereal, I get like, was it bread and cheese? Something simple, you know? Because when you're half awake, you don't care what the fuck is on your table. You just want to be like, yeah, this is good. [00:19:49] Speaker B: Well, after this fast, after this fast, I feel like you got to go hard and breakfast, like, that first meal. [00:19:54] Speaker A: You can't. [00:19:56] Speaker B: When you're done with the fast, you can't go. You can't just jump into it. Your stomach, I would jump right back. [00:20:02] Speaker A: Your stomach is just, like, shrunken. [00:20:04] Speaker B: So then you're fucked. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:05] Speaker C: That's like, a lesson that he told me is, like, when you go, like, the whole day without eating, and then you finally eat, but you're only satisfied for those few minutes, you know, saying. They're like, damn, I was. I went through all this, and then now I'm straight. Like, you know, I mean, I'm good. [00:20:16] Speaker A: It teaches you about life in general, you know? Like, everything is temporary. All your. Your jewelry, all your fancy cars, your fancy houses. All that is temporary. Your satisfaction is just temporary. No matter how hard you work. You work so hard to get that, to be on the top. But guess what? You're on the top, and you satisfied with just, what, ten minutes. And then when you realize you're on top, you're like, that's it. I did all that for this. That's why we try to teach people, like, look, appreciate life with what you have and make the memories with people. Joke around, don't take things seriously, have morals for yourself, and just live life. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Damn philosophical. Yeah, you really are. I feel. I feel like you got, like, a lot going on. Like, you're always talking about, like, different business things that you're going into. Like, you were talking recently about getting a. Getting a loan and, like, wanting to get in the property stuff. Yeah, yeah, do it. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Like, that's my next step in life. I really want to get into the. Going to be 29 in April, 7. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Okay, so you and I are about the same age. And then you're. You're, like, 25. You're 25. So if you're younger. I turned 29 in January, this past January. So, like, being at that age and doing all that shit's pretty cool, dude. [00:21:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I will. [00:21:25] Speaker B: Business. [00:21:25] Speaker C: I'm trying to be like you, bro. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Renee wants to be in that. Oh, I'm shedding tears over here. [00:21:31] Speaker A: It's gonna get you a lot of white hairs first. [00:21:34] Speaker C: I'm straight. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you are going gray. Yeah, you are going gray. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Mel was going gray at 19. [00:21:39] Speaker B: No shit. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Ever since I just started working and hustling, started getting more and more gray hair. By the time I turned 23, I had a fucking whole left side of gray hair. So I was just like, damn, this sucks. I look. [00:21:53] Speaker B: What were you doing at 19 that was giving you gray hair? [00:21:55] Speaker A: Just working a lot. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Working what, like cutting hair? [00:21:57] Speaker A: Cutting hair, yeah. Now we work a lot of hours. [00:22:00] Speaker C: I can vouch for that. Cuz he's been cutting my hair since I was, like, 14 or 15. Oh, we go way back. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And back then, oh, you had to cut, like 30, 40 people a day. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:22:11] Speaker A: And there's only, like, ten dollar haircuts. So you make that three $400 a day of what, ten to 16 hours a day? [00:22:19] Speaker C: I'd be. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Damn, what shop were you cutting at? You didn't have your own shop? No, no, I was working at my uncle shop, Razor's edge, and I worked there for five years. And from there on, I was like. My family was like, hey, you need to kind of branch out, do your own thing. I was like, okay, if y'all have faith in me, I'll do it. I won't let you guys down. And my whole life, everybody has been putting me down. And that's the reason why I came up with the word elusive, because everybody said that, oh, you dream too big, your achievements are too high, your fan. What's that thing called? Like, your. You're. [00:22:55] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Damn. What the fuck is called when you. When you basically, like, you dream, like, the unachievable, your fantasy? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. So I was just like, damn, what's that? What's a good word for me? Like, my whole life, everybody's been telling me that I can never achieve something. You know, I can never be the best I can be. And I was like, elusive means that. It means hard to grasp, hard to achieve, and. And hard to picture, you know? And I was like, that's. Those are the type of haircuts I want to give out. Haircuts that are unachievable, that nobody else can copy. A shop that nobody can copy. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you've. I think you're. You're heading the right direction, hopefully, because it is a one of a kind place. So you think you. So how does that conversation work of you now working in an office shop? [00:23:40] Speaker C: Like, between me and him? [00:23:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, how do you go? Was. Is this the only shop you've ever. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Cut his hair? [00:23:48] Speaker C: Yeah, he's always cut my hair. So, like, even when I was in barber school, I didn't have. It wasn't really spoken. I just kind of walked in, like, yeah, I work here now. You know? I'm saying, like, he just made it so easy. Like, it was. It's almost like a brotherhood, almost. You know what I mean? [00:24:03] Speaker B: What led you guys to wanting to be barbers and, like, cutting hair. It sounds like you have it in the family. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Yeah. With me, I actually had three reasons why I chose it, if that makes. Yeah. What my first reason was, I want to be a doctor when I was younger. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Okay. And I could see that that makes sense. [00:24:20] Speaker A: So the more I studied and things like that, I was like, this isn't my lifestyle. Being a doctor is very stressful. It's very time consuming. I don't get to enjoy my life, even though I get to help people, but I don't get to enjoy my own life. [00:24:33] Speaker B: It's, like, so many years of schooling. [00:24:35] Speaker A: Yeah, at least eight years. [00:24:37] Speaker B: It's a long path. [00:24:38] Speaker A: And I was like, man, my family was. Honestly, my family was broke at the time. I was like, who's gonna take care of my family? You know, my parents don't got a job. My brothers and sisters are in college. I was like, somebody has to step up. And I was like, man, I can't just go to eight years of college and waste my time and then have our family go downhill. I couldn't allow that. So I went to barber school, or actually, I realized I can't be a doctor. So then I thought about being a psychiatrist, because I enjoyed communication and the study of the mindsets also makes sense. [00:25:09] Speaker B: I could totally see part of being a barber. Getting to know your clients and talking. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And then I. And then I realized a teacher of mine told me I was very artistic, like, when it comes to, like, hands on stuff. I can draw really nice. I can write poetry really good. And she was like, you're very talented with your hands, and you don't realize it. I was like, I never tried. Like, nobody gave me the opportunity to try things with my hands. And then I saw my uncle as a barber, and I went to the shop, and I was like, man, being a barber is all three. You still get to help, like a doctor, and they're considered doctors back in the day. I still get to communicate like a psychiatrist and help people with their situations. And three crate. Like an architect. [00:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:52] Speaker A: So it was very meaningful for me. And that story that I've always held onto gave me a scholarship. [00:25:58] Speaker B: Really? [00:25:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Got a little thousand dollar off scholarship. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Wow. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:02] Speaker B: For barber school. [00:26:03] Speaker A: Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. [00:26:05] Speaker B: What about. What about for you? Was it just that you were getting. You were getting haircuts from a nostril? I want to be announced when I grow. [00:26:14] Speaker C: I just always, like, the actual, like you say, the environment, not the culture, not the culture just like men's grooming, you know what I'm saying? [00:26:27] Speaker A: Like I ain't got no beard or. [00:26:28] Speaker C: Nothing to do, you know I'm saying? But I got it done, I got it. [00:26:32] Speaker A: The goat. [00:26:35] Speaker C: I just always liked it. And I didn't go to barber school until I got 20 or 21, but I should have gone straight out of high school, but I didn't do it just cuz for some reason, I guess, cuz he was coming up so good. [00:26:45] Speaker A: I told you to go. Yeah, he did, he did, I did. [00:26:48] Speaker C: I just always thought like you had to just be, you know, born with a talent to fucking cut hair because I always thought it was like, damn, that she seems fucking cool, but hard as fuck, you know what I mean? And then me being clumsy and shit. So I'm. But I mean, I just feel like. [00:27:00] Speaker A: You'Ve never had the. [00:27:01] Speaker C: I just came a long way from it. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like you never had the support I like in a foreign country, like a foreign, foreign people, honestly, they don't support you. [00:27:12] Speaker C: No, yeah, I can agree with that. [00:27:15] Speaker A: They just never like, oh, you won't do that. You can do. I know, I believe in you. No, they don't. They don't think that. [00:27:20] Speaker C: Because even when I was going to community college, my mom was all for it, you know, she thought I was doing something. Then I just said, no, I ain't doing that. And then I worked for a little bit and then she just didn't talk to me for like a month, a month and a half. Cause she was upset that I just stopped going to community college. And then I told her I was going to barber school. And then she was like, I mean, at least you're doing something. And I was like, all right. And then now I'm here. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Look at you now. Yeah. [00:27:43] Speaker C: You know, it's weird. I agree with what he says on that. So. I don't know. I've came a long way though. [00:27:48] Speaker B: Is it you think like something like rooted in the culture to where like there's the path of like college and education to have the, have like the standard job and they just don't view the, the hair cutting like the. [00:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Cuz I feel like it is like a standard job. [00:28:04] Speaker C: I feel like in other places of the world, like a lot of people don't make a lot of money. [00:28:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:09] Speaker C: Doing that. [00:28:09] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [00:28:10] Speaker C: So, yeah, here in America, we honestly. [00:28:13] Speaker A: Back then, barbers didn't make a lot of money either. [00:28:16] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true. [00:28:17] Speaker A: But now it just now started that's probably, like, a trend like that, too. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like part of it, too, is, like, if you're cutting at, like, a chain place, that's. That's different than having. Than having a shop and having. Being in a shop that's reputable. Like, what you guys have at elusive. You know, it's. It's. It's a. It's an upper tier shop, and the prices are still very reasonable. Like, because I grew up going to my chair. I've told you. I've told you this before. [00:28:48] Speaker C: I'm blessed to get the free haircuts, bro. [00:28:50] Speaker B: Cup or cut. Okay, see? Yeah, I know. I know. Renee's prices. I don't know everybody else. I'm speaking. Speaking on that, which I booked on the app and all that stuff. But, like, I grew up going to Sal's barbershop in a new city, New York, and it was an old guy named Sally, and all these pictures of him with the pope and, like, the Italian. Italian soccer. Like, the italian, like, world cup soccer teams from back in the day. He was an older dude. I don't know if he's still around now. It was. It was him, and it was him and his wife. Their name was Maria. I think it was Maria. And they were in the shop, and then they started having these guys come up from. That were from Uzbekistan, that came up from Queens every day, drove 40 something minutes to come up to the shop and cut. And then they eventually bought the shop from Sal. But Sal, they kept the name Sal's. And he. He would still cut in there in his old age and, like, two days a week and whatever. But, like, that culture of, like, growing, because that was where my dad went. My dad used to go in there, and they. The guys would be like. They'd be, like, drinking vodka and, like, having a good. It'd be. It was, like, a culture kind of thing. Like, on. On Main street, on this little. This little street in my hometown. And there's something about just having a barbershop, like, having a place to go in that community that's in there. And I've started to get to know some of the other regulars. Yeah. And I think it was Taz that said, like, there's different levels of regulars, and me and nikki t have been coming long enough, so we're at a different level. You guys are on my damn podcast. [00:30:10] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. [00:30:11] Speaker B: Like, we're. Well, I'm at a different level of regular. [00:30:14] Speaker C: There's some clients that know, like, all the drama and things that go on because I mean, we care about their input, too, because, you know, this is where you come. You know what I mean? So. I don't know, but, yeah, you guys are on that level, bro. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Y'all, are there anything outside the shop is family? [00:30:28] Speaker B: Anything outside the shop is family. Yeah. You guys have come to some of our events, too. [00:30:32] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:30:33] Speaker B: You came to our Christmas party. And when he met my. My girlfriend, Aaron, and I introduced. I introduced Renee. And she was. Just looked at him, gave him a hug, and was like, thank you. Like, she loves the beard trim and the haircut. She's like. She's like, I like what? She's like, I like a well groomed. I love a well groomed man. Renee's the reason for that. You know, like, if I ever have, like, a date night or we're going on a trip or something, like, I gotta come in. I used to be, like, once every, like, two, three months to get a haircut. Like, growing up, I'd wait a while. [00:31:04] Speaker C: Shout out to Aaron, and now I'm. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Now once a month, I'm. I was one. I was once a cup. I'm like, once every couple weeks. Yeah. Like, I'm a frequent, frequent visitor. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Because you start realizing, like, it's not just a haircut. [00:31:16] Speaker B: No. [00:31:17] Speaker A: It's more. It's therapy. It's like a hangout joint. It's just fun. Like, why not go and enjoy some fun? [00:31:24] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, and you only do private cuts now, right? Or, like, vip. What's the. What's the VIP structure? Because I haven't done the vip. I'm booking on the app like a peasant over here with. [00:31:36] Speaker A: So I used to do vip a long, long time ago where you pay a $100, you skip the line. I used to never do appointments. Oh, I stopped doing appointments a long time ago because nobody would show up and it will cause problems. So then I realized, like, it's limiting me. So I was like, just walk in, and it'd be four or five hour wait. Nobody. Nobody cared. And I'm like, damn, you're gonna wait 5 hours? And I'll be telling. Sometimes I exaggerated. One time, I was like, it'll be like a two hour wait. And I'll be like, 5 hours. And somebody's like, okay. They'll sit down. I'm like, no fucking way. You go, wait. You're gonna wait all day here with me? They're like, yeah, it's okay. I'm like, fuck. I'm trying to go home. Like, shit. [00:32:15] Speaker B: So do you still. Is that still how it works. Or how's the process of getting an appointment with the master barber? [00:32:20] Speaker A: So now I do appointments. I see how everybody else is already full and we have some new guys in the shop. So I need to limit myself away from walk ins so that they can grow and prosper in life. That way I could just focus on my clients and work on my brand itself. So now it's all online. I book appointments now. But back then, you will book a hundred, hundred dollar haircut for a vip service. You'll skip the line. It'll come with the haircut. Beard. Facial and a hot towel. [00:32:50] Speaker B: Facial? Yeah, facial. [00:32:52] Speaker A: Facial scrub. I'm telling you, I'm blessed with these hands. [00:32:55] Speaker C: I feel you. [00:32:57] Speaker B: If you guys weren't doing it, if I know you were saying psychiatrist or doctor like, you just really want to help people. So I think you'd be doing something with that if you weren't cutting hair. Renee, what the. What the fuck do you think you. [00:33:08] Speaker C: Damn, I don't know. That's a tough one. [00:33:10] Speaker B: What do you want to be when you were a kid? Or did you not really know a fucking WWE wrestler? You want to be a WWE wrestler? [00:33:16] Speaker C: Obviously, you know, heights an issue for that. You know what I'm saying? [00:33:18] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know. Rey mysterio, bro. [00:33:20] Speaker C: Yeah, you're right. [00:33:21] Speaker A: You can fly. [00:33:24] Speaker B: I want you and my tag team. I think you. [00:33:28] Speaker C: Put the gloves on with him. So I think I got it. [00:33:30] Speaker B: All right. Yeah. Elusive, elusive, elusive. Like Royal Rumble. I mean, Taz over there is formidable foe. I feel like Tyler's kind of scrappy. I feel like you got. You got some, but I feel like you can do. [00:33:41] Speaker C: You could do some dancing, high flying shit. [00:33:44] Speaker B: Is that what you wanted to be like you wanted to be. [00:33:49] Speaker A: He loved that stuff. Dad watched all that. Yeah. Cuz I've seen this, this guy as a kid, so I've seen all that. [00:33:59] Speaker B: You can't drive. [00:34:00] Speaker C: He came in there driving at 15. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Oh, you were. [00:34:06] Speaker C: In this, man. [00:34:10] Speaker A: I. [00:34:10] Speaker C: Exposed like that what you wanted? [00:34:12] Speaker B: What do you want to be when you were a kid? Do you remember enough? [00:34:15] Speaker A: See, that's what I'm saying. Those three things. [00:34:17] Speaker B: But the kid, like, like in elementary. [00:34:19] Speaker C: Straight out the wall. [00:34:21] Speaker A: I'm. I have an old soul, so I've. I've always want. No, how do I say it? I always knew what the hell I wanted in life. [00:34:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:29] Speaker A: You know, I didn't want to waste my time with certain things. Like all my friends that will go out partying and stuff like that. I never hanged out with them, huh? [00:34:36] Speaker C: I say, I was just trying to wrestle. [00:34:39] Speaker A: We used to wrestle all the time, but I. Yeah, we so wrestle all the time, but it was just never, like, I never thought about being a professional, you know? [00:34:47] Speaker C: No, obviously not. You know, I'm not gonna pursue that shit. But, like, realistically, as a kid, you. [00:34:51] Speaker B: Know, I have a buddy back home, and he always wanted to be a wrestler. And then I remember seeing YouTube videos or, like, on his instagram, and he was named Brian McLibberty, but his stage name or his wrestler name is Brian Burgundy. And he's a little dude, little irish dude, and he's in whatever the wrestling thing is in New York. Like, it's like some professional semi pro wrestling in New York. And his thing is, he comes in the ring, and then he has, like, a little. He'll get tagged in, and he'll have, like, a little step stool, and he'll hop up on the little step stool, smack the guy across the face, and then do, like, one of those leg tosses. [00:35:23] Speaker A: And. [00:35:25] Speaker B: They got Brian Burgundy. [00:35:27] Speaker A: They got the midget wrestling. Yeah. [00:35:30] Speaker B: You guys ever been to those? [00:35:31] Speaker A: No. [00:35:31] Speaker C: Have you? [00:35:32] Speaker A: It's right across the street. [00:35:33] Speaker B: I've been to micro, so we've. When I was out on tour with. With Trey, we'd go into some very interesting venues. And it was funny, I couldn't see that, because all the different venues, it'd be like we were. There was like, a month straight where every venue we were going into either had the night before, the week after, or the night after. And sometime there was one time where it was, like, we were loading in, and the midget wrestling was, like, finishing up as we were, like, getting our stuff ready to go on stage. But all these little bars across the southeast during COVID we were going into. We're having midget wrestling, the micro wrestling circuit. Micro wrestling. Or there were the full size, like, amateur wrestling. And then it would be a concert after, and then we'd be concert after. It was just wild. Was yosh concert or it was a Trey Lewis show. Yeah. So we'd be. So I'd be trying to get everything set up, like, for sound check, and then there'd be, like, a ring in the middle of the room, and then all these people, like, watching this wrestling thing. It's like, we gotta play a concert here later. But, yeah, I've been to them, to the micro wrestling stuff. It's. It's quite the. It's quite the experience. [00:36:34] Speaker A: Why I call micro, because that's what it's called. [00:36:36] Speaker B: They don't use. They don't want to use the term midget, so they call it micro. [00:36:40] Speaker A: Really? [00:36:41] Speaker B: That's okay. I said it, too. [00:36:43] Speaker A: Okay. Good to know. [00:36:45] Speaker B: So, yeah, they'll do it. They've done it at the rusty nail. [00:36:48] Speaker C: They literally call it that. [00:36:49] Speaker B: Micro wrestling. Yeah, the micro wrestling Federation. And it's funny, they've got, like, a guy. [00:36:56] Speaker A: I just be laughing with the midges, you know, on tick tock and instagram, they go. They throw them and go, beep. [00:37:03] Speaker B: The micro wrestling Federation, 428,000 follow it. Yeah, he probably does. [00:37:11] Speaker A: You never know. [00:37:11] Speaker B: Yeah, and it's like they've got, like, they've got, like all the little, like, like all the little people, and they. And they go in there and they. They're athletes, man. I mean, it's like, it's like crazy shit. Like, look at this shit. Look at these little guys just going, like, look at this little guy just running over people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like big time stuff. Oh, then it toss up. Oh, and then he falls. [00:37:35] Speaker C: That's crazy. [00:37:35] Speaker B: We gotta go one time. Cause Nikki T. Went. I was out of town. They had micro fest here in Nashville at one of the, one of the bigger venues, and Nikki T and some of our friends went and they said it was electric. Like, they had, like, a cover band. Like, one of the wrestlers was like a lead singer and, like, this cover band. So it was like a micro wrestling, like, band playing, like, rock stuff. [00:37:57] Speaker A: What do you find? [00:37:58] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:37:59] Speaker A: Just in one place. [00:38:01] Speaker B: What do you mean? [00:38:02] Speaker A: Like, think about it. How often do you see a midget? [00:38:06] Speaker B: I mean, you see them in certain places. [00:38:08] Speaker A: I rarely see them. [00:38:09] Speaker B: I've seen them around plenty of times. I've seen them. I've seen them at the bars. [00:38:13] Speaker A: You see only one. [00:38:15] Speaker B: You guys have. You guys have a. Have a smaller client? [00:38:19] Speaker A: We have one. Man, talk about this. [00:38:22] Speaker C: I don't. I wasn't there. [00:38:23] Speaker A: There was a barber that used to work in our. In the shop. She cool. She was super cool. But she had a client. She was cutting the kids hair, and she had a little booster seat. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:32] Speaker A: And the kid came off, and then the midget came to the chair and was like, you can leave that on. And he hopped into the booster seat. I was like, we didn't realize until the haircut was after, like, done with. And I was like, damn, girl, you left a booster seat on for him. Like, what the hell? [00:38:49] Speaker B: Yeah, you need the booster. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah, because if you need the booster girl, man, it was a grown man. [00:38:56] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a grown man, but he's the. But he's not full grown size. You need the booster seat for a guy like that. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Oh, no. I rather hurt my own back to make you feel better by just you and us. That's. [00:39:09] Speaker B: A different. [00:39:09] Speaker C: That's wild. [00:39:10] Speaker B: That's a different thing. So going in and doing, like, the private cuts with, like, the teams and stuff, what is. What is that like? And, like, I know you guys do a lot of the soccer stuff, and then, and then, oh, I'm getting a phone call from Nikki T. And then Taz and Tyler do a lot of the Titan stuff. What's it. What's it been like doing that? Like, what is the Nashville soccer club like? [00:39:34] Speaker A: Honestly, I think it's, like, an opportunity. Like, I enjoy it, and I'm glad that they chose us, honestly. But it doesn't change, like, anything. Like, I don't look at nobody. [00:39:44] Speaker C: Change your mindset. [00:39:44] Speaker B: You guys are both big soccer fans, too. [00:39:46] Speaker A: I feel like. [00:39:47] Speaker B: I feel like collectively in the shop, everybody enjoys soccer. That's. [00:39:51] Speaker C: That's what I was gonna say. Like, I grew up playing soccer, and then we didn't have a team to support, you know what I mean? And then now, like, when we found out we were having a team, a professional team, I was excited about that. And then we have a national soccer stadium. Now we have a national practice facility, and now we are in there cutting them. It's like, you know what I mean? Just being a fan of the game itself growing up, I think it's pretty cool. [00:40:13] Speaker A: And who knew Barbara could take you there? [00:40:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:15] Speaker C: I didn't know that. [00:40:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I've only been the one national. I used to go to. Red Bulls games. [00:40:20] Speaker C: New York red. [00:40:21] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. [00:40:21] Speaker C: The New York. [00:40:22] Speaker B: And those games are always fun because you had the guys on the drums. Like, the. The culture around that in the northeast is a lot of fun with. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Have you been to the game here? [00:40:30] Speaker B: I've been the one. And we sat in, like, the die hard fan sections, like, the standing section. [00:40:34] Speaker A: What do you think? [00:40:35] Speaker B: It was fun. I just had no idea what the crowd was saying because a lot of the chance are in Spanish. [00:40:40] Speaker A: Really? [00:40:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:40:42] Speaker C: Nashville has a big hispanic. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Well, it makes sense because of where the stadium is. Like, it's. It's in, like, the north. Like, it's in, like, the. The South. Nashville, like, bordering any of the area, which I think is a perfect place for it because that community appreciates soccer more than I did growing up, you know? Like, you're right about that I didn't grow up. Grow up, like, huge. I remember watching the facilities. [00:41:02] Speaker A: Tanger outlet. [00:41:03] Speaker B: The facilities. [00:41:05] Speaker A: That's so concerning. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's like Murphy's, bro. Like, off Murphy's borough. Antioch. I used to live over there, bro. [00:41:11] Speaker A: They changed that completely. [00:41:13] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a lot of gentrification. [00:41:15] Speaker C: I never live out there, but I grew up playing soccer out there in that area. [00:41:18] Speaker A: But I haven't been out that fantasy in years. Yeah. Yeah. [00:41:22] Speaker C: So it's like, whenever I went out that way, I just took me by surprise. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah, we're in where all in Nashville. Have you guys lived? [00:41:28] Speaker C: I've lived in, like, where'd you grow up? [00:41:31] Speaker B: In town? [00:41:31] Speaker C: Hermitage. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Oh, you see, you grew up. [00:41:33] Speaker C: Yeah, that's really everything. But, you know, I was out, you know, high school when I got to drive, you know, I was everywhere, you know. You know, Murfreesboro, you were going down to. I was going over there. [00:41:44] Speaker B: You go another borough for you. Going to whiskey dicks, the big bar down there. [00:41:50] Speaker C: It's called whiskey Dixie, 1516. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:53] Speaker B: So what are you doing? [00:41:53] Speaker C: You know, just driving around, you know, saying, yeah, you know. You know, I'm saying I don't expose myself. [00:42:04] Speaker A: I grew up in Donaldson. [00:42:05] Speaker B: Okay. So pretty much like that same area. Yeah, I like Donaldson a lot. I like Hermitage a lot. Obviously, this is because I moved down here in 2018. When I first moved down here, I lived in Spring Hill, and I would go from Spring Hill to Broadway every day for work. I was working at the bars, but I was like, what is it like. [00:42:23] Speaker C: Is that 40 minutes drive? 45? [00:42:25] Speaker B: Depends how Williamson county is to you, because you got to go through cool. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Springs and Brentwood and Franklin Williamson's by Knollingsville, isn't it? [00:42:32] Speaker B: Williamson is. Williamson County's like Franklin leapers for, like, all those areas. [00:42:38] Speaker C: So how we don't know how we know. We don't know. [00:42:43] Speaker B: See, I just know that. Know the area from, like, just drive. Like, having to do that, having to do that commute and stuff. But I always. I put in the back of my mind, it was like, yeah, well, 14 hours away in New York is a lot further from Nashville than 45 minutes or an hour. And I was. I went from Spring Hill to Laverne, Rutherford county over there. Laverne was an interesting place, and then went from there to Antioch. And I was living off of Murfreesboro pike by Nashborough village. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:43:11] Speaker B: And I was, like, my first time living in, like, an area that wasn't, like, the greatest area. And I remember being outside at night, hanging out in the back deck before going to bed and you could have. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Run in a sidewalk. [00:43:23] Speaker B: No, you're like pop pop. You're like pop pop and you're like, it's not, it's a little too late for fireworks like those gunshots or fireworks. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Pop pop. [00:43:31] Speaker B: And then the car peeling out like Antioch. Living in any was an adventure. Yeah, and then it's not too bad. [00:43:37] Speaker C: Here in Hermitage too. [00:43:38] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, it's changing. [00:43:40] Speaker C: Like was like two months ago, someone had gotten shot and like in the apartment complex up there and then they came down to the map co and. [00:43:48] Speaker A: Then I guess, I guess he died over there. [00:43:50] Speaker C: Now he ain't died. Someone had took him to the hospital, but it's like murders right across. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Why didn't he go? [00:43:57] Speaker C: He could have just gone to the hospital, but that man went to the gas station. It was right there. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Yeah, the hospital is right fucking. [00:44:03] Speaker A: It's exactly right there. [00:44:04] Speaker C: But you know, he got shot. He was shot. I don't know, I don't know his. [00:44:08] Speaker A: I gotta go get a cigarilla first. [00:44:18] Speaker B: So, with your life right now. So you're. How long have you been married? [00:44:22] Speaker A: Since about two years now. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that was like. [00:44:27] Speaker A: No, actually years. Been a year. But I remember when you first got. [00:44:31] Speaker B: Married because that was like when I first started coming to the shop. I remember that was part of the conversation. [00:44:35] Speaker A: I got engaged two years ago and then I, I've been married for a year now. [00:44:40] Speaker B: Happy you enjoy. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Oh, I love it. I always think is the best Instagram DM. It sure did. [00:44:46] Speaker B: Yeah. My short, my proudest, elusive barbershop moment. Cuz I like to, I like like we have, I've been doing this podcast shit for a while. I used to be a radio dj so I'd always like throw up topics and then get people calling in and obviously I do this like personality stuff and the hosting stuff for a living. I love tossing up, tossing the ball up in the air with a conversation in the barbershop and watching everybody that's either cutting or, or sitting in a chair chime in on the topic. [00:45:18] Speaker C: He'll be like, watch this, watch this. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Yeah, watch this. And I'll say something slightly outrageous and then they'll get a chuckle out of Taz Tyler. The girls will roll their eyes and then Tyler will say something outrageous, more outrageous and then everybody will bounce around and. But when I first started seeing my girlfriend, Aaron and Renee asked like, how do we meet? And I said that I think it's an instagram. DM. It's a DM slide. And the girls and some people in there didn't think it was a DM slide. And everybody, my entire cut in there, everybody chimed in, that's my proudest, elusive. [00:45:52] Speaker C: Well, it took over the conversation for the next two weeks, I think. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that was crazy because someone didn't understand that that's taking a shot. [00:46:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:01] Speaker A: And there was the girls. The girls didn't understand that that's taking a shot. Like, if you don't realize that, then, like, something's wrong. I really think. [00:46:13] Speaker B: What was, what was your DM slide? What was your post? Was it a cheesecake? [00:46:16] Speaker A: It was a cheesecake. A delicious Oreo cheesecake. So I don't blame her. She saw that Oreo cheesecake. She was like, oh my God, where the fuck you get that? So she said, hey, would you get that? And I was like, oh, this is a cheesecake factory. Super good. You should go one day, you know. Yeah, he's gotta always love cheesecake factory. [00:46:38] Speaker B: Cheesecake factory mills. [00:46:41] Speaker A: No, we went to, I think it was green Hills. Yeah. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Oh, there's one in green. I don't know. There was a cheesecake factor in green Hills. [00:46:47] Speaker C: Yeah, the one at Opry is pretty new. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Cool Springs is really nice too. [00:46:51] Speaker B: I haven't done the whole cheesecake factory tour. Middle Tennessee, I gotta say. I gotta do that. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty good. The cheesecakes are fire. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Oreo cheesecake. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I used to. When I was in college in Jersey, I used to take, um, used to be my, my friends used to go there like, I would take like my college girlfriend there like cheesecake factory. And I go there with my mom all the time in New York. Like, to them, the mall, you know, like cheesecake factory. Very underrated place. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Yes. They got rid of my menu, though. [00:47:17] Speaker B: They got. What do you mean they got rid of you? [00:47:18] Speaker A: I used to get like a salmon with the sweet potato. It was so good. [00:47:22] Speaker B: You eat so fucking clean. I'm in there getting the fucking burger with the fries. Like, I'm like clogged my arteries, baby. [00:47:29] Speaker A: And then. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll take that joke. I don't got room for it, but I'll eat it after you eat so damn clean. [00:47:34] Speaker A: No, I don't. [00:47:35] Speaker B: Yeah, you do. [00:47:36] Speaker A: No, he don't. [00:47:37] Speaker B: What do you mean? You don't. [00:47:37] Speaker C: He look like it, but you. [00:47:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Just notice you never met somebody who eats a whole pack of oreos every day? [00:47:45] Speaker B: Every day. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Every day by itself. [00:47:47] Speaker B: What's your favorite flavor of Oreo? [00:47:48] Speaker A: Thin dark chocolate Oreos. Addicting. I'm gonna put everybody on thin dark chocolate Oreos. [00:47:55] Speaker B: Well, that's why the thins, I feel like, aren't as bad as. [00:47:58] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:47:58] Speaker B: They're not as bad for you, right? [00:47:59] Speaker A: You think that because the bigger ones, you might get, like, probably like ten of them and you want to stop the thin ones. No. By the time you've done, you finish the whole thing. You're like, damn, I'm about to go to target again. About to give me another pack. That shit hit where my milk at? [00:48:15] Speaker B: Like, where my milk? [00:48:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:20] Speaker C: Get two cupcakes and then just take one bite of each. The gone that was and then down it with water. Act like it was gonna be okay. [00:48:28] Speaker A: You know, I got a bad habit. You know, it's funny. Somebody told me was like, hey, hey, the food's not gonna run. Stop, stop. I'm like, what am I doing? [00:48:35] Speaker C: They're like, oh, yeah, eating too fast. [00:48:37] Speaker A: I eat too fast. [00:48:38] Speaker B: I eat really fast. [00:48:38] Speaker A: I inhale my food. [00:48:39] Speaker B: I equate. For me, eating fast, growing up, I didn't eat fast, and I was like, a problem, but I would take too long to eat and, like, school and I parents would be like, why aren't you eating your lunch in school? But then being on the road and, like, having a window where you have to eat when you're on the road going from place to place. So I eat really fast now. So the Oreo thing, have you ventured out to, like, these crazy flavors of oreos that they got now? Like, the mint ones and, like, the man was, okay. I like the golden ones. [00:49:09] Speaker A: You seen the new cosmic ones? [00:49:11] Speaker B: Yeah, the cosmic ones are. [00:49:12] Speaker A: I never tried it with the cosmic. [00:49:14] Speaker B: Brownie stuff in it. Like those cosmic brownie, the little Debbie snacks kids. They got those in Oreo form now. Rock your world. Was it some good shit? Some good shit, yeah. We're about to all make it over. [00:49:28] Speaker A: To the dim my lib dry. [00:49:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. We're talking about food and you're fucking. I completely fucking forgot. Oh, yeah, we got, we got. [00:49:39] Speaker C: We're close. We're close. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Ten minutes. Where are some of your favorite places to go and, um. And eat? In hermitage, in hermitage. Like sushi. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Tie that place good. Fucking love it. No, no, no. Super good and clean. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Really? [00:49:58] Speaker A: Yes. You gotta get the pineapple fried rice, no onions, no tomatoes. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Okay, that's tomatoes and fried rice. [00:50:05] Speaker C: They do. [00:50:05] Speaker B: I'm really skeptical. [00:50:07] Speaker C: You say no tomato. Just say no to me. [00:50:09] Speaker A: Say no to me. Because they will give you hot tomato. [00:50:12] Speaker B: Like a whole fucking tomato? [00:50:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:50:14] Speaker C: They'll cut into fours and they just give you, like, one. [00:50:19] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:50:20] Speaker C: You gotta specify. They know our orders now. They're like, no tomato. [00:50:23] Speaker A: Yeah, he did accent very well. No, I did it, bro. [00:50:28] Speaker B: The sketchiest. [00:50:29] Speaker C: I sound like you, bro. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Clowns. The sketchiest place in Hermitage that I've eaten at where I'm like, why am I here? You guys ever been to juicy seafood? [00:50:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I have a buddy that likes to go in there, but he spends. He buys that $80, $90. Like the bag with all the. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Love it. [00:50:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I just can't do it. [00:50:50] Speaker A: I just stopped going. [00:50:51] Speaker B: I just stopped going. [00:50:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:53] Speaker B: You were a regular at juicy seafood? [00:50:54] Speaker A: I was a regular. And then I realized, like, I'm. I'm really picky. Like, who's working there? [00:51:01] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:51:01] Speaker A: Yeah. So if I start seeing more and more crackheads, I'm out. Like, I'm sorry. Like, I'm. What would you like? I'm like, oh, yeah, you know what? I'm out. I try to do it. [00:51:12] Speaker B: This. [00:51:12] Speaker C: I tried telling him about, uh. Was it tutti the geo? [00:51:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Fire. Italian. [00:51:16] Speaker C: Italian food down the street. [00:51:17] Speaker B: I gotta check that out. [00:51:18] Speaker A: They rated. They rated top 100 in the hotel United States. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Wow. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Think about that. [00:51:24] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to go over that. [00:51:26] Speaker A: Tiramisu. Look crazy. My first time trying this, I tried it, right? I fucked it up. I told him, take a bite. He fucked it up. And then I went to go buy another one, and he went to go buy another one, and I was like, dang, that shit was so damn good. And they're sold out. They're always sold out. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Wow. [00:51:43] Speaker A: Tiramisu. [00:51:43] Speaker B: I'm gonna have to go and check that out. I was just on a trip, which was the reason I saw you last. [00:51:49] Speaker C: Week, that I had to get a. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Haircut because I went on a trip with my girlfriend. So I had to get the haircut. I had to get the cleaned up, get the fade on the sides. Go see my boy, Renee. We went to Park City, Utah, and I was. I didn't know what I was gonna find in Utah, because that's, like the land of the Mormons. It's a very interesting place. But we went to this. We went to this spot. We were supposed to go to this comedy show, and next door we were looking for a place to eat, and we were. We ended up just staying at the restaurant and skipping the comedy show. It was called italian graffiti. And it was like a cool place. We sat, like, at the bar, like, in this little section, like, near the kitchen. Ended up getting to know the pastry chef. She was from Brazil. Like, got to know all these people and we, like, the food was really fucking good. It was one of the best italian places I've ever been. What'd you get? I got the. Originally, I was just gonna get, like, this, like, mushroom appetizer because I thought we were gonna try to make the comedy show. And then I had the garlic bread, and the garlic bread was fucking divine. It was so good. So good. They, like, cooked it with, like, the oil and, like, the garlic and all that stuff in there. And then I'd have, like, the fresh cheese and the marinara sauce that they had with it was so good. So I ended up ordering a second one of those for the whole group, for the. For the table. And then I was like, all right, I gotta get the fucking chicken parm. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Cause, like, I can't go to an. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Italian joint and not get the chicken parm. And then I asked them, because I saw that espresso. Martin's like, can you guys make a cappuccino? They're like, well, we just got a new coffee maker. Let's see. They come out with these fucking cappuccinos and then had this, like, I forget what the fucking dessert was, but it was fucking awesome. Good italian food is like, you like. [00:53:16] Speaker A: You like cappuccinos and I like coffee. [00:53:18] Speaker B: I'm a. Yeah, well, when I. Since I got sober, like coffee, I'm a big nicotine and caffeine guy. [00:53:23] Speaker A: Has he met Jess, the new guy? [00:53:27] Speaker B: Oh, Jesse. Yeah, he was in there. He was in there the other day. [00:53:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Cuz he's a New York guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, New York and Miami. [00:53:33] Speaker A: You try it. [00:53:33] Speaker B: That he'd had on you. [00:53:34] Speaker A: Try this. Coffee. [00:53:36] Speaker B: Yes, coffee. [00:53:36] Speaker A: He makes coffee every day? [00:53:38] Speaker B: No, every single day. [00:53:39] Speaker A: Every day. [00:53:39] Speaker C: I feel bad, cuz I turn it. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Down, but I can't have it no more. I had it like, for like four or five days and then Ramadan kicked in. I'm like, fuck, man, it was so damn good. [00:53:49] Speaker B: Okay, so you'll be back on it? [00:53:50] Speaker A: Hell, yes. Every day. [00:53:52] Speaker B: So he makes it in the shop? [00:53:53] Speaker C: Yeah, he'll whip it up. He's over there like, hey, how y'all doing? [00:53:56] Speaker A: I've never seen somebody whip sugar. [00:53:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:54:00] Speaker C: He's whipping the sugar. [00:54:01] Speaker A: He whipping sugar into a creamy sub. [00:54:03] Speaker B: That's from him being in New York or him being in Miami, because I know he reps both of them got that he had on because I think. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Just cuz he's italian. [00:54:11] Speaker B: That makes sense too. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I I'm gonna have to go in there and. And I'm gonna have to text you. I'd like make sure that j. The coffee. Yeah. He always. [00:54:20] Speaker A: In the morning. Hey. In the morning. [00:54:22] Speaker B: Book a morning. Morning appointment. [00:54:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:23] Speaker B: Me there before 10:00 a.m.. Yeah, me, there you go. Me there nice and early because we're going to. We go to a lot of festivals and stuff, like I've talked about with you guys in the shop. And the first one of the first ones we go to every year is the key West Songwriters festival. And down there, I'm just on that cuban crack. I'm on that cuban coffee. The little. Little cuban coffee. [00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:41] Speaker B: And I'm doing them like, shy. I'm just. [00:54:43] Speaker A: That's what he's basically making. [00:54:44] Speaker B: I'm just running. It's all hot and going. Yeah, it's in like a little cup. [00:54:48] Speaker A: Yeah, he puts in like a little. [00:54:51] Speaker C: And if he doesn't have it, he'll literally stop and go the store, get whatever he needs, and then come back and do it. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:54:56] Speaker C: He's committed. [00:54:57] Speaker A: Well, he just tripped me out. He would be like, salute. I'm like, the fuck. I'm like, what the fuck is a salute? Like, what do you mean? He does salute. I'm like, I like that. What is he talking about right now? You know, I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. [00:55:13] Speaker B: So you've never drank or smoked or anything? You've just been sober edge sober. Is that for, like, religious reasons or just personal stuff or. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Well, it's both. It's both religious and personal. I just feel like I don't need to be changing my mindset to fit in or be different, you know? I love who I am, you know, I don't want to change who I am. I enjoy it. I don't need to be high to have a good time or how people say, oh, I need liquid courage, bro. I got all the courage in the fucking world. I don't need that shit, bro. I don't need it. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:48] Speaker A: You know, like, if you tell me to go in a group of people, like, a random ass restaurant, you tell me to go sit in a table with the random ass people and just stare at them, I would do it. I wouldn't care. I'd be like this. Yeah, look good, huh? I don't care. [00:56:05] Speaker B: Have you ever been tempted to try. [00:56:10] Speaker A: I just never cared for it. And the craziest thing, the way I grew up, especially being kurdish, like, we had so many relatives who were drug dealers, so many people. I'm talking about, I've seen pounds and pounds and, like, all kinds of things you can think of, and at the same time, I'm like, it's crazy. I never tried it. [00:56:31] Speaker B: Well, it's probably because you saw that and you knew that that wasn't a good thing. [00:56:35] Speaker A: And, yeah, I've also had family members who took it to the point where, nope, no in return. And I was like, damn, that's sad. Like, I didn't want to be around that shit or even think about being the addiction. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Addiction's tough. Yeah, that's like, for me, thank God I quit drinking before I moved down here. Like, if I was working in the bars and working in country music and still had my drinking problem, definitely want to be here. I want to be in this nice studio doing all this shit, you know, like, getting off the drinking. I'm still. I'm a nicotine and caffeine fiend, though. [00:57:06] Speaker A: That's my problem. [00:57:07] Speaker B: I'm a teen caffeine guy. [00:57:08] Speaker A: I'm more of a caffeine person. I'll fuck up energy drink every day. [00:57:13] Speaker B: Celsius is stopped. Which, by the way, you guys are the reason I drink Celsius is now, like, the one, the sparkling marshmallow or whatever. There's a flavor you guys have in there. I don't know if. [00:57:29] Speaker A: Oh, the tangerine. [00:57:30] Speaker B: The tangerine. [00:57:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that was it. The boat orange stickle. It's so fucking good. [00:57:35] Speaker B: That's my favorite one. The first time I had it was with you guys. [00:57:41] Speaker A: I got you, don't worry. Yeah, I said about one year, I. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Big dog, shout out to Taz off the camera. That was cool. That. Cool that he came by. What kind of music do you guys listen to? [00:57:58] Speaker A: Every. [00:57:59] Speaker B: I feel like in the shop, it's literally everything, man. [00:58:01] Speaker A: They complain about my music. They always complain about it. My music is more like, I was. [00:58:07] Speaker C: In there when it was just me and you and you would just play the same shit every day. [00:58:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:10] Speaker C: So, you know, it's not me complaining. [00:58:12] Speaker A: Yeah, he's not lying. [00:58:13] Speaker C: But you listen to everything. Like, I don't know. I picked up listening to country music, working at a losers in fucking red door. Yeah, there was a lot of that going around. I was like, you know, this shit ain't bad, you know? And then I really know who Morgan Wallen was either. And I was like, I just, like, was asking, who sings this song? And everybody looking at me like, you know what? But now I listen to just pretty much anything I like to hear. Like, it's a. I don't know where. You'd have to look at my playlist, bro. [00:58:40] Speaker A: It's all over the place with me. I like country. I like old school rap and r and b. [00:58:45] Speaker B: The nineties. [00:58:46] Speaker A: Yeah, nineties. [00:58:47] Speaker B: Two thousands rap that you guys have in there. [00:58:49] Speaker A: So when you. When you come in there and you hear maybe, like, neo or nelly, that's me. R. Kelly. I'm playing that music or a con, but they complain about it. [00:59:00] Speaker B: Well, who else controls the playlist in there? [00:59:02] Speaker C: Anybody really, first gets there, and I'm usually always the first one there. So I'm just like, whatever. And I'll even ask, like. And ask what you listen to, you know? I mean, like, do you have a specific song you want to add to the barbershop playlist? [00:59:15] Speaker A: But we have to, like, kind of mellow it down because it was getting to the point where it's getting too hectic. [00:59:20] Speaker C: They put the music videos on tv and just. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:26] Speaker A: It's not a professional area, you know? Yeah. [00:59:28] Speaker B: And I like them. You guys just have, like, random movies or random tv shows? Like, the stranger things kick you guys. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, stranger things. [00:59:38] Speaker B: I haven't been in there for Love island. I've seen some, like, cartoons on. [00:59:41] Speaker A: I think it was like. Well, we played, like, an episode and Tyler was like. [00:59:46] Speaker C: Because we were watching Love island. [00:59:48] Speaker B: Oh. [00:59:48] Speaker A: He was getting mad about the clients. Liked it. I don't like all the. As long as everybody's happy, that's all I care about, you know? So the clients were watching it, having a good time. Our job is just to cut it here. Don't worry about what's on tv. You know, he's over here. [01:00:06] Speaker C: He kept saying it's a whole bunch of valley girls in his hair because he's right next to the tv. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:09] Speaker C: It's like he said, I'm tired of hearing all these valley girls in my ear all day. I'm like. [01:00:14] Speaker A: And I keep telling my, why are you even looking at the tv? [01:00:19] Speaker C: And they will change it. We'll post something else on. He's not even paying attention to what's going on on tv. You know? How does that work? [01:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. He's on the nose. [01:00:27] Speaker C: You gotta love him, though. [01:00:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I. That, to me, like, that's. It is like that culture of, like, when you're on, like, a team like, playing sports as a kid and like, you all kind of like, rip on each other. Like, that's part of, like, having a family, you know, like. And I think that's like you guys all kind of give each other. Give each other a little bit of shit, you know? And I like that about the shop. So now we're into this new year, what are some, like, goals for you guys? You guys big. I would imagine you're a New Year's resolution guy. Like, you guys have. Whether it's like, for this year, like personal stuff or just like for the. For the shop, like, what are you guys trying to get to this year? [01:01:02] Speaker A: Pretty much both. I want to establish a lifestyle for me and my wife. And two, I want to also establish a lifestyle for everybody in the shop to be successful and have an environment that looks super, super authentic and nice. So this year we're gonna try to remodel a lot more by changing the roofs and the lighting and make it more just appealing. And then we're gonna have a shoe store in the back. [01:01:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:01:28] Speaker C: Okay, Jess. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:29] Speaker C: Jess is the reason a lot of, lot of, like, ever since he came, a lot of things have changed in the shop. Like, as, like you saw the big e when you walk in? [01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:37] Speaker C: That's because of Jess. [01:01:38] Speaker A: Yeah, he just walked. He's like, I got this. Don't worry about it. I'm like, he's like, you know what you should do? [01:01:41] Speaker C: Never mind, I got it, I got it. [01:01:45] Speaker A: A handyman, man. [01:01:47] Speaker C: It's about time though, cuz I'll be saying shit. He takes forever to take my word. And then like two months later he's like, you know what, you know was a good idea. And I said it like three months ago. I said it like, he's not lying. [01:01:58] Speaker B: That's funny. What about for you as far as, as far as this year? Cuz you got. You got a little one. [01:02:03] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I don't know. See, like if you went on my instagram, I deleted all, like, all my haircuts and stuff because I'm trying to like, do a whole different, like, I guess an aesthetically pleasing profile, you know what I mean? Attract different type of clientele. And then as far as personal, I picked up fishing like late last year. I've been doing a lot of that with my cousins, bringing my kid around everywhere we go. That's about it. Getting married, hopefully trying to go to Japan by the end of this year. [01:02:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Why Japan? [01:02:32] Speaker C: I don't know. [01:02:32] Speaker B: It's cool. [01:02:33] Speaker A: He wants a combination. [01:02:38] Speaker B: Have you. So you've been out of the country, though, before? See, I've never been out of the country. I have a passport. But you've never been out of the country. [01:02:43] Speaker C: I just got my passport this year. [01:02:45] Speaker A: Because we're making so nice. [01:02:46] Speaker B: I was gonna say, you've probably been all over the place. [01:02:49] Speaker A: Thailand. Thailand's super nice. I'm telling you. Like, if you want to go somewhere super nice and cheap, Thailand. You got the good food, good people, good scenery. Everything's stupid cheap. I had a personal chauffeur, like, I'm talking about, this dude would wait for me at the restaurant. He'll take me 2 hours away from the city, wait for me, and then take me back. And it was only about like $70. All day. [01:03:14] Speaker C: Damn. [01:03:15] Speaker A: All day. [01:03:15] Speaker C: Crazy. That's just a parking spot. [01:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be like, yeah, right. [01:03:19] Speaker B: That is that parking downtown. [01:03:21] Speaker A: It'll be like $5 to take you to a restaurant. Not even $5, like. And he'll wait for you. Like, he won't leave until you're done. And I was like, I made a bond with this guy. I was like, I might, man, let me get your number. So we got his. WhatsApp got his number. And I would talk to him, joke with him. I still got his number. And I told me, make a promise with me. You know, I was like, look, I love how you're a hustler and there's so many ways to make money and better yourself, because his goal was to have a better car. And I was like, okay, bet. So the next time I see I come here, I hope that you have a better car that you can take me around. And he said, I promise you I will. And I was like, okay, I'm. Hold that accountable. [01:03:56] Speaker B: So when are you going back? [01:03:58] Speaker A: Probably a year or two. Yeah, this year I might go to Jamaica. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:03] Speaker A: I never been. If you've been good things, I've never. [01:04:06] Speaker B: Been out of the country. I've really think you would think, like, being in New York. I would have at least been to Canada or some shit, but no, I've never been. [01:04:12] Speaker C: I love New York. I've been to New York twice. And I. I love it. He don't like it, but I love. [01:04:16] Speaker A: Almost died. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Where in New York were you? [01:04:18] Speaker A: Laguardia. [01:04:20] Speaker B: How'd you almost die in LaGuardia? How does one die? And was this. How far, long ago was this? Was this like World War Two looking like. [01:04:28] Speaker A: No, no, no, this is last year. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Yeah, LaGuardia now is nice as fuck. It used to be, like, modeled, like, world War Two era. It was rough in there. [01:04:35] Speaker A: No, we came back from Thailand, and we had, like, a delay on our flight, and we had to transfer to a different flight because our flight got delayed because we arrived late. [01:04:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:45] Speaker A: So we had to take a taxi from JFK to Laguardia. And our fucking taxi driver, the most craziest crackhead person I've ever met, this dude is looking at every single mirror, like, ugh. I'm like, bro, you're not looking at the road. He kept getting honked at. We went from the first lane to the fifth lane. From the fifth lane to the first lane. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a skill right there, being able to drive like that when taxi driver. [01:05:07] Speaker C: But did you die, though? [01:05:08] Speaker A: I didn't die, but. But I've never seen one person break so many rules within ten minutes. [01:05:15] Speaker B: There are no rules driving in New York, bro. [01:05:17] Speaker C: I didn't have a bad experience. [01:05:18] Speaker B: It's. [01:05:18] Speaker A: He was driving on a shoulder in a merge lane. [01:05:22] Speaker B: He was getting you to where you needed to go. [01:05:24] Speaker A: How did that take ten minutes? Damn. [01:05:26] Speaker C: You were in New York for ten minutes, and you almost died. But that's crazy. [01:05:28] Speaker A: My head hit, bro. My head hit the glass window. [01:05:31] Speaker C: You got to be in. Be over there for, like, a week. [01:05:34] Speaker A: Do they. Did they finesse people? [01:05:36] Speaker B: What do you mean by, do they. [01:05:37] Speaker A: Finish the taxis today? Finesse? Because the guy, I saw him turn the machine off, and. And he turned it off at, like, around $35. [01:05:44] Speaker B: And. [01:05:44] Speaker A: Oh, that's another thing, bro. That shit was good. It was only ten minutes, right? That shit was going up, like $3 a minute. I'm like, I'm a damn. I'm gonna pay that. There's no way I'm paying that. And went from 30. It was supposed to be dollar 30, but he charged me $60 for ten minutes. [01:06:02] Speaker B: Yeah, he might have gotten finessed. It might have been where in a section of the city that you were driving, you were in a very high volume area. Taxis used to be, like. That's like, a signature, like, New York thing is the taxi cabin. Uber and Lyft have changed that tremendously. Like, when Uber first came around, you had taxicab drivers, like, going around, like, fucking with the Uber drivers, like, really smashing out windows, slashing tires. Yeah, because the taxi thing you used to have, you would need a token. That's how you would, like, start the taxi or, like, have the ownership. [01:06:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:32] Speaker B: And those tokens used to be worth a hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now those tokens are, like, a couple grand. [01:06:37] Speaker C: That's wild. [01:06:38] Speaker B: And you have families that were passing down generations. Like, that was what the family did. They were cab drivers. And now the whole industry up there has changed. [01:06:46] Speaker A: Huh? [01:06:47] Speaker B: So drivers are very angry these days. So I think you just had a. I think it sounds like you did get finessed. So I'm sorry for that. [01:06:56] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. And then when we went to the LaGuardia. That's pretty. Airport. Went to the airport. Laguardia. And the people there, we're just trying to check in. These people didn't want to listen to me. They were too busy saying, oh, man, this look, this man look like Jesus. Mom, come, come. This is Jesus. Mine, I had long hammock. I like you. We heard it check in, like, no, no, no, brother. He. Look at Jesus. Come, come. I'm talking about one person. Yeah. Everybody just kept imagine you with long. [01:07:27] Speaker B: I never saw. I've only seen this version of. [01:07:29] Speaker A: I have my driver's license. [01:07:30] Speaker B: I'll show you. Oh, no. [01:07:32] Speaker A: I'll hide the credentials. [01:07:36] Speaker B: Is that a Louis Vuitton wallet? Yeah. [01:07:42] Speaker A: Look like Jesus. Yeah. [01:07:45] Speaker B: Is that how he looks when you. When you first met him? [01:07:47] Speaker C: No, no, no. Oh, no, no, bro. He had his beer, like, all the way down here. [01:07:53] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:07:56] Speaker C: Sharp as beard. Crimson. [01:07:58] Speaker A: I had to cut that off, too. Everybody thought I was ISis. [01:08:02] Speaker C: Damn. [01:08:03] Speaker A: They're like, dan, this man. This dude look like a serial killer or something like that. [01:08:07] Speaker B: My. [01:08:07] Speaker A: Damn, I gotta cut this shit off quick. Yeah, it was just bad. Everybody was saying something like, sasha Baron Cohen, and they're like, saying Saddam Hussein or something. I'm like, damn, that look like Saddam. They're like, yeah, you look like his cousin or nephew. I was like, dude, damn, I gotta get rid of this shit. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Damn, that's crazy. [01:08:22] Speaker A: So I got rid of it. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Damn. [01:08:25] Speaker A: And my pops is the first one to say something. He's like, you look like a terrorist. I'm like, damn. Damn, dad, I didn't mean to, like. My bad. [01:08:31] Speaker C: Just trying to flex my beard, bro. [01:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:08:33] Speaker B: You're just. [01:08:34] Speaker A: I admired the beard. [01:08:35] Speaker B: Yeah, beards are. Beards are more in. Is it, is it. Have you guys seen, like, trends of, like, haircuts and beards and stuff? Like, the mullet thing is, like, starting to fade out. [01:08:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Now is the Edgar. [01:08:48] Speaker B: What's the Edgar? [01:08:50] Speaker A: It's like, imagine a mushroom helmet in a lineup, and then you got a baby little fade on the sides. And all these kids are. They enjoy that shit. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Like coconut head from. That's the class. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:03] Speaker B: Kids doing that? [01:09:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Why the fuck would you want to look? [01:09:06] Speaker A: Exactly. But these kids fucking love this shit. I'm like, bro, I hate talk. [01:09:10] Speaker B: What? Tick talker. [01:09:11] Speaker C: It's literally a TikTok cut, because I. [01:09:13] Speaker B: Know, like, the, like, the hispanic. It's in the hispanic community. [01:09:18] Speaker C: Yeah, primarily. Yeah. [01:09:19] Speaker B: Really? [01:09:20] Speaker A: In the Kurdish too. I say the amy I considered any. I care. [01:09:23] Speaker B: Oh, okay. See, that, to me is not like, I've seen a lot. [01:09:26] Speaker C: This was okay. [01:09:27] Speaker B: You guys have been cutting a lot is. I've seen. I've seen kids get that. [01:09:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:30] Speaker B: In the shop, but it's so stupid. [01:09:34] Speaker A: Get some style. Do something different. You know, that just looks like a helmet or too much. [01:09:38] Speaker C: They still get the hose, though. I don't know how. With that haircut. [01:09:42] Speaker B: I'm like, there's, like, the faux hawk looking thing is big too. [01:09:47] Speaker C: Like, the burst fade. [01:09:48] Speaker B: Like, we're like, where people have, like, the v. Like, the curly hair, and then it goes. The curly hair extends. [01:09:54] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:09:54] Speaker A: Oh, my. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yours. Yours is kind of. Yours is, like, yours is clean, though. Like, I'm talking, like, like, people have, like, those, those wild kind haircuts. Mine is just, just the fade. I'm. Mine. Mine seems to be pretty simple. [01:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:07] Speaker B: Honestly, I feel like I don't ask too much of. Yeah, like, it's a pretty. [01:10:10] Speaker C: Not simple cut. I feel like a lot of people that don't ask too much always get, like, the better haircuts. If you're, like, really picky, like. Like, giving us a hard time. [01:10:18] Speaker A: And there's a reason why it's, like. [01:10:20] Speaker C: We don't really care to put money. Like, we're gonna put effort into it, but it's like, it's. We don't want to put it. You know, I'm saying, with you, I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna get this, man. Right. You know? [01:10:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:30] Speaker C: You know, I'm saying, like, because the. [01:10:31] Speaker A: More picky the person. Person is, the more you don't want to deal with that person. [01:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:10:35] Speaker A: Then you start, like, dodging that person. You don't want to. [01:10:38] Speaker B: What's your favorite style to cut? What do you. What do you like, like, how chefs have, like, yeah, I make. This is my best dish because you guys are our creators. Like, you guys. It is. There is an art to it. What's, like, what do you think you could cut better than anyone else? Like, style wise? You guys get. [01:10:55] Speaker A: I love doing designs. [01:10:57] Speaker B: Designs? [01:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:58] Speaker B: Like, putting in the back of the head or, like, lines in the fade and things like that. [01:11:01] Speaker A: Well, I did, like, daffy duck on. Somebody said before did Daffy duck. Yeah. So things like that. I enjoy stuff like that. [01:11:08] Speaker C: I don't really have a favorite hairstyle, but I do like, a favorite part of the haircut is the lineup. [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah. You take your time with my lineup. Yes. [01:11:15] Speaker C: S. I don't know. I feel like people look at that more than they look at the actual haircut, you know? [01:11:20] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. No, no, they do. Because if it's not symmetrical, then it's gonna throw everything off. [01:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I make sense. As one of your. As one of your clients. Yes. You take your time. You take your time with the lineup, for sure. What do you guys like doing when you're not at. When you're not at the shop? I know. You said you picked up. You picked up fishing. [01:11:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:39] Speaker B: Besides, like, eating Oreos and going to the cheesecake factory. And I go on walks. You go on walks. [01:11:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:46] Speaker C: That's another thing, too, because we don't, like, have a boat or anything. So it's like me and my cousins and then my son sometimes too. Most of the time we'll just go wherever and we'll just take, like, little hikes. It's more about, you know, going through the little. [01:11:56] Speaker A: Join the process. Yeah. [01:11:58] Speaker C: And then once we get to the fishing, we don't even care because this is literally just hanging out with the boys, just hiking these little trails to get to certain spots. And if my girl, like, seen some of the spots that we take, my son, she'd be so mad. But you gotta do it eventually, you. [01:12:08] Speaker B: Know, getting going on. [01:12:09] Speaker C: Yeah, cuz you go. You gotta go some, like, on some slopes, you know what I mean? [01:12:12] Speaker A: And he does. [01:12:13] Speaker B: He. [01:12:13] Speaker C: Him, he handles it pretty well. He's gonna be out there in the future. [01:12:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That's awesome. [01:12:18] Speaker A: Well, I enjoy stuff like that. [01:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I enjoy being. Being outside and going around and doing that stuff, too. That's something I wish I could have done more in. [01:12:26] Speaker A: Do you guys know who. It's like a forest where paintings all over. [01:12:32] Speaker C: Oh, that's over there. But that's literally by the barbershop. [01:12:34] Speaker A: Really? [01:12:35] Speaker C: Yeah, but it like. [01:12:36] Speaker A: So supposedly there's like a forest. I guess hippies and all kinds of people who like to hallucinate go there and they just paint. They paint the trees. [01:12:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Is this. That's in hermitage. [01:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Like the green way or whatever? [01:12:50] Speaker C: No, it's. It's about a lake that's been around since high school, though. [01:12:54] Speaker A: Really? [01:12:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:55] Speaker B: I was gonna say. I haven't heard of this. I don't know, like, the town. I want to. I'm not a Hermitage townie. I'm a transplant. So I'm still. [01:13:02] Speaker C: I don't even know how to describe. It's seven points lake. I don't even know what you call it. But then it's at one of the, like, the little boat things where you let the boats go into the water or whatever. You just take a left, there's a trail. If you look to the left, there's gonna be a trail leading into the woods. And you just keep going a little bit further down, and it's a whole bunch of, like, people have, like, little. You can tell there's been campfires. Last time I went, there was beer cans all over the place. [01:13:27] Speaker B: I don't know. It's like an in camp. Like. Like a camp, like. No, it's not like what was next to the rusty nail? [01:13:33] Speaker A: No, there's no living there. [01:13:34] Speaker B: No. So there's not people, like, living. [01:13:35] Speaker A: No, no, I've never been. I've only seen, like, videos of other people going there. I'm like, bro, y'all like this shit? They're like, yeah, it's fun. I'm like, okay, I guess. [01:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah, people use their own, bro. People used to do that. We had a actually shot of ghost adventures there in my hometown. We had Letchworth village. It was, like, in a sane asylum for, like, like, back in the day, like the forties and fifties. And then it got shut down for all. The river did, like, a story on it way back in the day. But, like, people would break into this old abandoned insane asylum and, like, paint on the walls and do shit like that. Like, I had a buddy, my buddy Matt and my buddy Nick. And the. Nick's girlfriend at the time, Melissa had, like, all these. She had all these tattoos and they broke in. They went in there, and Melissa came out. She had all these scratches on her, like, the fucking ghosts and demons and stuff. Like, you guys fuck with haunted shit? [01:14:30] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. [01:14:31] Speaker C: You know. [01:14:31] Speaker A: You know, prissy priest is pretty much haunted. [01:14:34] Speaker B: Really? [01:14:34] Speaker A: Yeah. It was a grave site underneath the lake. It was a man made lake. [01:14:38] Speaker B: I didn't know it was a graveside under there. [01:14:40] Speaker A: Yeah, did so instead of moving it, they just left it there and just let the water rise. [01:14:46] Speaker B: No shit. I know there's, like, been a plane, like, that plane crashed in there, but no, before that. [01:14:52] Speaker A: Trust, really. That's why I don't swim in there. [01:14:55] Speaker C: I don't know no facts about it. [01:14:56] Speaker A: But that's the main reason why I do not swim in that lake. [01:14:59] Speaker B: Because I figured the Civil War battle, like, all the battlefields, would have, like, ghosts and shit on them. I had a ghost at my old house in Hermitage. Oh, really bad, Libby. It was on Libby Lane. This was before I started coming to you. I started coming to you when I moved into the new house. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Anything crazy? [01:15:15] Speaker B: Yeah, like, doors closing. Like, my. My roommate is. He does, like, security for a living. So he was like. He would, like, text me, be like, did you hear that? And I was like, yeah. And then he would be like, anyone say, stay in your room. I'm gonna clear the house. Like, thinking that somebody was in there. [01:15:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:30] Speaker B: And he'd, like, go through, but, like, random appliances just going off lights. [01:15:36] Speaker C: That's scary. [01:15:36] Speaker B: It was sketchy as fuck. Yeah, it was a weird. [01:15:38] Speaker C: What do you even do at that moment? Like, you just kind of like, do you not there and just deal with it or what? [01:15:43] Speaker B: Yeah. You hear, like, a door shutting in another room, and you're the only one in the house, and you're like, what the fuck? [01:15:50] Speaker C: You just stay there. [01:15:51] Speaker B: I just. [01:15:51] Speaker C: Just don't pay it no mind to it. [01:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah, just try your best. [01:15:54] Speaker A: He's the definition of a really scary movie. Yeah, for real in the main character, not like. [01:15:59] Speaker C: What do you mean? [01:16:02] Speaker A: What was that? Yeah, let's go get it. I'm gone. [01:16:08] Speaker C: I'm out in this lease right now. [01:16:12] Speaker B: We end. We ended the lease for some. For some other reason. It was a very interesting situation. Like the. It was like, the woman who owned it. Like, it was her. The house she grew up in and her parents had passed. I think it was one of, like, one of the parents. Like a spirit kind of. Of thing. It was sketchy. It was very sketchy. [01:16:27] Speaker A: Fuck, no. [01:16:28] Speaker C: Did y'all tell her about it? [01:16:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:30] Speaker C: Well, she was like. [01:16:31] Speaker B: She. She must have. She was like, oh, just noises sometimes. [01:16:37] Speaker A: It was like an old special. She knew. Yeah. Hell, yeah, she knew. [01:16:41] Speaker B: And I still get mail. I keep in contact with the guy that lives there now, and sometimes my mail gets. Gets. Still gets sent over there, so he'll shoot me, like, an Instagram DM or whatever. I haven't told him. So if he's watching this, then he's probably heard of. [01:16:54] Speaker C: That explains a lot. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Noises and stuff. [01:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah, tell him. Tell him to get some infrared cameras. [01:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah, or just set up, like, a GoPro or something. Just let it sit up there and. No, no infrared. [01:17:03] Speaker A: It has to be infrared. Trust me. It has to be infrared. It'll catch those movements. [01:17:09] Speaker B: Wow. [01:17:10] Speaker A: Yeah, tell him hey, can we just go ahead and install some infrared in here? [01:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that'd be. That'd be something. Yeah. Wild, wild stuff. But. But, yeah. So I'm glad you guys came in here. Like, you guys like the studio. [01:17:24] Speaker A: Oh, we love. [01:17:25] Speaker C: It's amazing. [01:17:25] Speaker B: I mean, I'm in your studio all the time now. You're in our studio. [01:17:29] Speaker C: No, it's amazing. I didn't expect for it to be over here. Like I said, it's pretty cool. [01:17:33] Speaker B: Yeah. We got the raccoon, the trash panda. That is the raised rowdy mascot. [01:17:37] Speaker A: Really? [01:17:38] Speaker B: Raccoons? Like the thing? Yeah. So Nikki started raised rowdy back in 2017, and we have a buddy, Dave Canavan, who's from. He goes by Irish Dave, and he's from Chicago. And he asked Nick to make him a shirt with a raccoon on it because he had a pet raccoon, and that's gangsters. Yeah, the pet raccoon. The raccoon used to, like, hang with the dog, all this stuff. So we made it. [01:17:57] Speaker A: Can you guys bring the record into the shop one day? [01:17:59] Speaker B: No. So we don't have the pet rat. This was years ago up in Chicago, and. But we got the rack. We started putting the raccoon on the t shirt, or Nick did years ago, like, raise rowdy with the raccoon under it. And that's, like, our top selling shirt. People just love the trash panda. And turns out it's like the. It's the state animal of Tennessee. So it kind of works really well that we're down here. Yeah, all the Davy Crockett shit. Like Davy Crockett wearing the coonskin. [01:18:22] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:18:23] Speaker B: So that's where all that comes from. So. But, yeah, so, yeah, we got, like, raccoon stuff. Got that little beaver Nikki t's. Got that mister t action figure up there. [01:18:31] Speaker C: Yeah, I bring. [01:18:33] Speaker B: I bring my Yankees bobble heads in here. And we got, like, all the. All the posters and different things and different shit. So, yeah, this is like our new home. And this was the first episode with these new mic stands, which. It's really nice. [01:18:45] Speaker A: Love it. [01:18:45] Speaker B: These new mic stands are fucking great because I can actually see people. No, you can move them around. [01:18:49] Speaker C: So I thought that little thing went. [01:18:51] Speaker B: No, I mean, you can't. We can if we. If we needed to, I guess. But, like, when we're going out on the road, we're like. We're, like, doing interviews with people when we're out on. When we're out at the festivals and stuff. Like. Yeah, like, doing like a live thing with, like, artists and singers and different people. And it's like, now we have these to just bring to the table. Yeah, like, come hang at the festival. [01:19:08] Speaker A: It's a lot better. Yeah, dude, less clutter. [01:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah, less clutter. And you can actually see double gripping. Oh, he's double gripping. What's that watch you got on? It's all full of bougie shit. You got Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton. [01:19:24] Speaker A: This one's a petition tech. A good buddy of mine gave this to me. [01:19:29] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:19:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. He was like, hey, I won't be coming to your wedding, but I'm sending you something for your wedding to take pictures with. And I was like, oh, okay, okay. What? What is it? He say, you'll see. You'll see. I see it. And he's like, is it? And then when I. When I finally got to open, I was like, bro, it's an expensive ass watch. He said, no, no, bro, it's for you. Don't worry about it. I was like, I am not finna fucking wear this shit. He said, no, just take pictures. And blah, blah, blah. Enjoy your day. He said, I feel bad for not even being able to come. I was like, okay, I'll take pictures. I'll take pictures. Put it back, you know? And I was like, hey, how do you want me to send it back to you? Like, is there a certain way you want me to package it? He's like, no, bro, you keep it. He says, my gift to you. Just keep it. I was like, damn, that's love. Yeah. [01:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that is love. That's a good friend. [01:20:15] Speaker A: Yeah. So I was just like, damn. Like, I really. I really wanted him to be at the wedding, but at the same time, it's just one. One good thing after another, you know? [01:20:23] Speaker B: That's a nice watch. I'm sitting over here wearing this. I got into this apple watch thing. I was gifted it for Christmas, and now I watch, like, my steps and all of that shit, and, like, the calories that I burn. And it's funny, like, even if I'm sitting still, I'm like, burning calories. I think it's because of all the. All the stimulants that I put into my body, all the caffeine, all the nicotine that my heart's always racing. [01:20:43] Speaker A: Really? [01:20:44] Speaker B: Jeez, I think so. I think so. Like, if I'm working out, do you get hazy? [01:20:49] Speaker A: Like, your mind gets hazy if you don't have caffeine a little bit, like, all the time. [01:20:53] Speaker B: Did I ever tell you the story of when I got vertigo? No, I. Vertigo. And it actually started after getting a cut at the shop. Like on your, like when you're like really dizzy and like, you can't see straight, you know, I'm saying like vertigo. [01:21:08] Speaker C: It's that stuff that you gave me to spring on here. You like. [01:21:14] Speaker B: No, like, vertigo is like when you. It's. It sometimes happens. Like mine was caused because the night before that I was at, um. We had an event, or I was doing a takeover of another event and I was standing next to the speaker, so. Messed up my ears and it knocked like the. I forget what they say. [01:21:31] Speaker A: Librium. [01:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah. My equilibrium was completely off for like a month and a half. But I noticed it after getting a cut. After getting a cut at the barbershop. Cause I was driving home and I was like swerving. I'm like, wait a second, like, why am I swerving on two of Grove Road to get home in Hermitage? And then. [01:21:48] Speaker C: Yeah, he wasn't gonna come back. [01:21:49] Speaker B: No, I was gonna come back. I knew it was nothing. You did. [01:21:51] Speaker A: I knew it was. It was alcohol. [01:21:54] Speaker B: Now I wear. Now I wear. I wear earplugs all the time when I'm at shows and stuff. [01:21:59] Speaker A: Concerts. [01:21:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz I have to watch my ears. Cuz like that knocked my equilibrium completely off. But that was. I noticed it after I got a haircut from Renee and I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, Renee didn't do it. It was just normal. [01:22:10] Speaker C: Like, was it happening before the cut? [01:22:12] Speaker B: No, I noticed it after. I noticed it after because I was an early morning and I was out late that night with all the loud music, so. Yeah, it was something. Yeah, it'll. It'll happen. But I appreciate you guys coming. [01:22:26] Speaker A: Thank you, man. [01:22:27] Speaker B: What do you want people to know about? Why. Why should they choose elusive if we haven't hyped it up enough? [01:22:32] Speaker C: You gotta fuck around and find out. [01:22:33] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Come on. [01:22:36] Speaker A: Well, I don't know. I would say we have more of a craftsmanship and also a personality where you can actually genuinely come in and have a family of your own. You know, some people don't have families. Come to our family. We accept you. We don't discriminate anybody. We welcome every single person. So at the same time is more about spreading that love and that bond. Because it's not what you know is who you know. That would take you further in life. Yeah, that's something I always try to tell everybody. [01:23:05] Speaker B: Need that written on the wall in the shop. That is a good mission statement right there. Join our family. Like, that's badass. [01:23:11] Speaker C: He got it on here. So if you forgot what you just said. [01:23:13] Speaker A: Oh, we got it. [01:23:14] Speaker B: I'm excited to see the clips that. [01:23:16] Speaker A: Come from this episode. [01:23:17] Speaker B: I really appreciate you guys coming on, because something that we're trying to do with. With. We have five podcasts in our network right now, and with the concept of outside the round, it's like having, of course, like, my music people, like, having the different artists on, whether it's country, rock, hip hop, rap, whatever, but then also having on, like, different homies that I have, like, personalities. Like, we've got a lot of guests coming up that are people outside of music, but, like, still people that are in Nashville that I know would be a good fucking episode and people that I want our followers in our community to know about and when I like. [01:23:50] Speaker C: A lot of people that come to our barber shop are really involved in that type of lifestyle, though. [01:23:54] Speaker B: You know, you're in Nashville City. But, yeah, it's. [01:23:57] Speaker C: I feel like we're slept on. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I don't even know how to explain it. Like, compared to other barber shops, it's like. Like I said earlier, it's like one of those if, you know, you know, type of deals. But it's like, a lot of people that come in, like, you met a lot of people that come in there, you know, like Nick Hickman, Jordan Gray. [01:24:11] Speaker B: Jordan. That's my boy Jordan, who's been on the podcast. [01:24:14] Speaker A: Really? [01:24:14] Speaker B: He was a guest back in the fall. Yeah. [01:24:17] Speaker A: Huh. [01:24:19] Speaker C: You just run into somebody, and it's like. [01:24:21] Speaker A: It's pretty cool. [01:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, we're having different. Different business owners on. I've had a. The episode we dropped a couple weeks back was with my buddy Matt Taylor, who's a comedian out on tour doing comedy, like, having different folks. So having you guys on the. When I said the nick, I'm like, hey, what do you think? If I ever names like, bro, yes, that'll be a great episode. So I really appreciate you, you guys. [01:24:42] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:24:43] Speaker B: Taking the time to come on. And it is 721. So now you can go home and eat some more. [01:24:48] Speaker A: Ow. Fuck up a steak today. [01:24:50] Speaker B: Fucking up a steak. Well, where can people go to find out more about you guys and more about elusive. [01:24:57] Speaker A: What are the social handles we have on Instagram? Elusive studios. You can find everybody's information on there. We also have merch. We can type in elusive studio store, find the merchandise you like, we got the tie dyes. You know, if it's people who like tie dye. And also, yeah, you'll see other brands in there. It's not just a list of studio. You go in there, you'll see 99 blends, you'll see strictly cuts, 90 nini blends. [01:25:22] Speaker C: That's the Instagram. [01:25:23] Speaker B: That's what I click on to take me to booksy to go book my. So that's awesome. Well, fellas, I appreciate you guys coming on and this was fun. You'll be sure to check out. I'll look at this camera today. Y'all be sure to check out Anas and Renee elusive studio here in Hermitage, Tennessee. Two of my favorite guys in town and joined the family. I joined the family about a year ago and it's been a blast getting my hair cut over there and just a great experience. And you never know what the conversation is going to be. It's a lot of fun in there and seriously, a great business to support here in the Nashville community. Appreciate you guys and girls listening to another episode, watching another episode. Y'all be sure to visit raisedroudy.com for more information on us and like rate share. Subscribe to the pod, whether it's on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, wherever you are consuming this podcast. I'm Matt Barrel. These are my boys, Anas and Renee. This has been outside the round. We'll see you all next time. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Bye, guys. [01:26:21] Speaker B: I never been to conversation for too. [01:26:27] Speaker A: Long I ain't never been the best at sin I love you to a. [01:26:32] Speaker B: Girl I love only got a couple. [01:26:35] Speaker A: Tricks on my sleeve they usually just make them leave. So if you know me, if you really know me, you know I'm just a two trick pony. But maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show, the two trick on it. Yeah.