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Speaker 1 00:02:20 So you moved to year when?
Speaker 2 00:02:22 Uh, I moved here June, 2020.
Speaker 1 00:02:26 So like right in the midst of Covid.
Speaker 2 00:02:27 That was middle of Covid. Yeah, I graduated from UGA in May. Technically it was like on Zoom, but um, and then as soon I was like begging my parents, I wanted to move in April and actually had an apartment set up, but then all my national people were like, nothing's open, you're gonna waste your money. So yeah, I ended up canceling that lease and then I finally moved in like, I think it was June 1st. 2020? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:02:48 And what was that like? Movie? Because June was a weird time because shit was starting to open up. It wasn't opening the rest of the country. It was very like incognito, like we're gonna do this. Like you had the bars on Broadway that were opening and paying the 15 grand fines cause they were making a hundred k a night. Cuz we were all going. I was going there too. I'm sure. Exactly. You were. A lot of us were. What was it like moving up here where it was? Did it feel, did you get the Nashville experience early on?
Speaker 2 00:03:10 I did because like, I feel like that summer, June, July, like Tinder was popping. <laugh>. It was <laugh> like, um, that's kind of when I first moved it was hard to meet people cuz they tell, they tell you you gotta go out to meet people. And so I'm like going to these regular places to, but it's the same people going out cuz you either were going out or you weren't like yeah, you were separated into those kind of people and I was definitely the people, one of those people that were going out. Um, and so I just found it was hard to meet like music industry people. So I kind of, June, July into the middle of August, I was kind of just going out all the time. There's nothing else to do. Yeah, I was writing obviously, but, um, there weren't any rounds or shows or anything still. Um, yeah
Speaker 1 00:03:51 See we were one of those like underground ones cuz Live Oak and us were kind of aligned. We're we're gonna find a way to do this thing even if we gotta end at like 10 o'clock. Or like, it was weird too cause like the bar's closing early, but I kind of like that too because it was, it gave you time to go and hang out with people outside of the bars, which is nice.
Speaker 2 00:04:08 Yeah. I feel like it took me a while to like meet, uh, music people. Cuz the people, when I moved there, it was like people I knew from college. So I was like hanging out. Like my roommate at the time played soccer at Belmont, so I was like kind of hanging out with her friends, trying to make music friends. Yeah. Like, um, it was definitely way harder. Um, during Covid, I feel like when Covid was over or like things started actually opening up, I met more people in like two months than I did. Yeah. Living in Nashville during Covid for six months. You know, <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:04:35 Who were some of the first music people? Because you, you're a, you're, you're a dog, you're a Georgia alumni, so there's a lot of you guys and girls right in this town that come from uga that come from that, that Georgia area. So that's like a common bond. Did you know some Georgia folks right before you moved up here or?
Speaker 2 00:04:51 Yeah, so the, the guy who introduced me to a lot of people is John Langston. He's like my older brother basically. Yeah. And he kind of like, like he introduced me to JD and all them. So then I would talk to JD and JD would introduce or introduced me to a couple people. So it was like, it was like definitely a slow process. But, um, yeah, the Georgia people, I met some people that like did like merch and stuff. It wasn't necessarily like writers. Yeah. Um, cuz I wrote a lot by myself until December of 2020. Like my December of 2020 was my first official like co-write where it was set up for me. Was
Speaker 1 00:05:23 It cuz you were a little nervous to open up to people? Was it just you didn't have the co-writers? Like what, what was that? Cause I know a lot of other people that prefer writing by themselves over doing the co-writing thing.
Speaker 2 00:05:33 Um, so it, like, it, I sort of started writing songs in college, but I would say that I actually really started writing, um, around like May, 2020 when I knew I was gonna move here. And like I started like actually making time every day to sit down and write. Um, but so that was like basically by myself cuz there's a music scene in Athens, but it's not really country. Yeah. And I also don't have the personality that just goes up to people and is like, Hey, do you write? I write like, you know what I
Speaker 1 00:05:58 Mean? Let's, let's let's write sometimes the classic Midtown line.
Speaker 2 00:06:01 I think that was my problem in Nashville too, is that I'm like, once you know me, I'm not shy at all. Yeah. But I'm definitely not the kind of person that just goes up and like, Hey, I do music. Like let's write, you know, <laugh>. Yeah. So it kind of took like other people being like, Hey, you should hear her stuff. And then like other people kind of set it up, which I'm not, I wish I was more like outgoing about that kind of stuff. But people, I'll be sitting with people for like hours before they even know I sing and write. Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1 00:06:29 Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you, you're um, so what'd you go to school? What was your major at U UGA
Speaker 2 00:06:34 Accounting.
Speaker 1 00:06:35 You were an accounting major <laugh>. What?
Speaker 2 00:06:37 Yeah, so it, it switched. So I, um, my mom was an accountant and then once I was born, she became a stay-at-home mom. Apparently I need a lot of attention. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:06:47 Or something <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:06:49 Um, but yeah, I went to UGA for accounting and then it's like such a long story I'm about to get so off track. But, um, you
Speaker 1 00:06:57 Do, you do, you we're, we're here to learn about Mag Moroni. So you go ahead.
Speaker 2 00:07:00 So I took some accounting classes in high school and I re I thought I really liked it. It came natural to me. And apparently accounting either comes to you or it doesn't. So I was like, okay, whatever. I'll
Speaker 1 00:07:09 Didn't come, definitely didn't come to me. I
Speaker 2 00:07:12 I'm just gonna be miserable. Yeah. Uh, and work at nine to five every day, but whatever. Um, and so I went to UJ to do that and then I ended up switching my major. Like I graduated with marketing with an emphasis in digital marketing. Marketing. And then I did the music business program at ej. So that's what I ended up with. But I started as an accounting major. Um, I guess I'm gonna start with the whole sorority spiel. Spiel.
Speaker 1 00:07:39 Yeah. You were big, you were a big ega Greek life, like I've learned coming from up north like Greek, there's Greek life up there. But you go to the s e c country, you go Oh yeah. Especially the schools in Georgia. Yeah. Y'all love your frats and sororities for
Speaker 2 00:07:51 Real. Right? I, I know. I never even know where to start with the story, but yeah. So I went to uga, I joined a sorority. Um, I almost went to Kennesaw State for my high school boyfriend. Wow. Which
Speaker 1 00:08:00 Would've been
Speaker 2 00:08:01 Completely
Speaker 1 00:08:02 Horrible. <laugh>. That's like one of the, there's there's all those smaller schools. Somebody thinks Georgia, they think of UGA and tech, but there's so many colleges there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:09 I just, I, with the opportunities UGA gave me, I'm glad I didn't go and follow a boy to college. But, um, anyways,
Speaker 1 00:08:16 That's a song. That's a song right there. By the way, if you haven't, if you haven't written it yet, definitely write that shit <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:08:21 Um, so I joined a sorority and um, I grew up singing like casually. My dad was in a band and my brother played guitar. So there's always guitars around my house. And like I did the talent shows. You know, I did talent show when I was in fourth grade and then I did it again when I was in high school. Um, I would sing at FCA sometimes and I was like forced to but it, and then I did musical, but it was never like, oh she's gonna, she sings and plays guitar and like that's what she does. Um, but I did on Instagram in high school, like post some covers of me singing like Tequila Dan and Shay. Yeah. Like stuff like that. And so when I joined the sorority, um, they were like, well Megan's the country singer just from my Instagram. They're like, oh, she sings country. I'm like, not really, but I sure <laugh>. Yeah. Um, and they had this event called Miss Sorority Row, where it's basically like a pageant between all the sororities and it's like a big deal. They raised a lot of money, um, for whatever that sorority's philanthropy is. Um, and no one in our sorority wanted to do it because you had to, there was a talent section and they were like, Megan is the country singer <laugh> and Megan sings and she's a freshman and we can bully her. Basically
Speaker 1 00:09:28 <laugh> just pushing you out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:30 They're like, Megan, it's so not lame. Do it <laugh>. And um, I only did it cuz they offered me like a hundred dollars Chick-fil-A gift card. But I ended up doing that and I won it. Yeah. Cuz I sang like strawberry wine with my dad and it was kind of just like wholesome. So yeah. Um, so because I won that then the sorority really went on like, oh, Megan is the country singer and she, she sings and performs and stuff. So our philanthropy that spring, like the philanthropy event, um, we were raising money and we had John Langston come play that was like, our concert was the philanthropy event and we needed an opener because we spent all of our budget on him. Yeah. So like, Megan is the country Stinger and I'm like, aha. Yes I
Speaker 1 00:10:13 Am <laugh>. Was that your first time playing in front of people?
Speaker 2 00:10:16 Um, yeah, like more than one song. Cause I did like the talent shows and then like fca, which was like one song.
Speaker 1 00:10:20 So your first show's opening at UGA for John Langston who's like a king in Georgia for your sorority. That's crazy how that happens.
Speaker 2 00:10:28 Um, and I was an opener, but I played three cover songs. Like I wasn't writing at this point. Like I would just, I sang like Strawberry Wine Mama's Broken Heart and like probably another Miranda Lambert song. And that was me opening. And it's funny cuz at that show, like at the philanthropy event, chase Rice was there because he's trying to promote his Georgia theater show. That was in the next month. Like just being telling all the girls, you know, come out like, yeah, oh yeah. Um, buy tickets. Yep. Um, and Chase saw me open for John and was like, you should open for me at the Georgia Theater next month. And so a month later I'm like, that I like, I was gonna say no. Cause I was like, I can't do that. Like, like I can't sing at the Georgia Theater, like <laugh>, like, it was like an outdoor event where I opened for John. So it was like still pretty casual. Um, but Chase did say, you can open, but um, you need to have one original song. And I was like, I don't write song. So he was like, well you have a month to do it, so figure it out, give you
Speaker 1 00:11:23 Some time. <laugh>. I
Speaker 2 00:11:24 Know, I remember calling my parents like so stressed out and I was like, they were like, are you actually gonna do it? And I was like, I feel like I can't say no. Like yeah. What am I ever gonna get to do this again? Like, probably never <laugh>. Yeah. So, um, yeah, that's how I, I've ended up playing the Georgia Theater Show. I wrote one song called, uh, stay A Memory. So that was interesting. I probably, I had a 30 minute set, so that's like five or six songs. Um, and then after I played that show I was like, holy crap, I like doing this. It was a sold out show at the Georgia Theater. Yeah. It's,
Speaker 1 00:11:56 It's not a bad place to play your first gig <laugh>, the Georgia Theater's kind of like a Mecca, like Right. It's my favorite bad news around the country
Speaker 2 00:12:02 And I was still a freshman at this point, so I didn't really like, understand the weight of the Georgia Theater and stuff like that. Like I had gone to some shows there, but um, I, you know, I hadn't been there for that long. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, it's just the Georgia Theater, whatever. And then like, see when I saw my name up there, they put like my name on the thing where it was like I was opening for Chase Rice on the whatever It's Marky. Yeah. And I was like, oh shit. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:12:25 What have I done? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:12:27 Um, so after that I decided that I really liked doing it and um, that's when I was like, okay, maybe I shouldn't do accounting. Like it took a couple weeks of me like being like, holy shit, I really liked doing that. Yeah. Um, and then I was like, yeah, maybe it's time for me to look into changing my major and stuff. And it was actually funny because a lot of people couldn't come to that show because it was during finals week. Oh. And um, for some re like I remember I looked through my schedule and I was like, that's so weird. Everyone has tests, but I don't like That's crazy.
Speaker 1 00:13:00 Just the stars just aligned.
Speaker 2 00:13:02 Yeah. Stars aligned. The stars didn't align because it's next, it's the following Tuesday, I'm going to like, on the syllabus just to like make sure that I'm going to the right room and I look, and the test was that Friday, like I missed my whole test. Like, oh
Speaker 1 00:13:15 Shit.
Speaker 2 00:13:16 Straight up. Just didn't even, like, I didn't go, I didn't email my professor like nothing until the next Tuesday. And I was like freaking out. I like was like, I'm so sorry. Like somehow I got the calendar wrong. Um, and I missed the thing. And because I'm, I was like a really good student. Yeah. I am, believe it or not, I follow the rules. <laugh>, like when there's authority, I'm so scared of the
Speaker 1 00:13:38 Authority <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:13:39 Like, like I don't know what it's about me <laugh>. But um, yeah. So I was like terrified and um, because I went to class every day and I was like a good student. He let me like retake the test and no penalty or anything, which I would've failed. Wow. And at like uga there's like, yeah. Two or three tests and that's like your only grade. So I was, had like a perfect grade in that class, but because I got a zero on the test I would've failed.
Speaker 1 00:14:05 Damn.
Speaker 2 00:14:06 Um, so yeah, he let me retake it and then I couldn't freak out though cuz I had a freaking astrophysics test right after that. So I'm like freaking out having a panic attack because I just missed this test. But then I had another test to go to in an hour, so I was like, okay, don't freak out too much, even though you're gonna fail that class. Cuz if you freak out and you fail this one too <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:14:23 And you fail two classes and then you're really fucked. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:14:26 Yeah. So, um, but anyways, that's kind of how I got into doing music and um, like, you know, getting to open for Chase and then because that went well, um, like Bradley Jordan, the Oh yeah. Peach Entertainment
Speaker 1 00:14:39 Team, you know, we know Uncle Rico. Yeah. Bradley Jordan. He's the man. Right.
Speaker 2 00:14:43 He, um, he would hit me up if like, like I got to open for Dylan Scott and John Langston whenever he would let me open for him whenever he played like first of three. So, um, I played like four or five shows at the Georgia Theater throughout college. So that was cool.
Speaker 1 00:14:56 Yeah. That's not something a lot of kids at UGA get to say. And there's a lot of guys and girls that come outta there and do the country music thing. There's a lot of, lot of folks in town right now that are UGA alums that didn't get to get those reps at the, the place to play. One of the place to play in the Southeast. Not just Athens or Georgia. I,
Speaker 2 00:15:13 I think it was smart too, promotion wise cuz like I had the whole sorority, like all my friends would come, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:15:19 You're gonna sell tickets. Yeah. It was cool. Yeah. That's that's awesome. Now when did Nashville come into play? When were you like, fuck I gotta get to Nashville? Uh, well and was was there another place you were looking before coming here?
Speaker 2 00:15:30 Um, well until I did the whole music thing, I was like, I guess I'm just gonna be an accountant and cuz I am like I do think I'm very hardworking and stuff. Yeah. So it's like whatever I do, it'll be fine. It'll like, I'll work hard at it and yeah, I might be miserable behind a desk but we'll figure it out. You know what I mean? <laugh>. Um, and so, um, after I played with Chase, I was like, oh shit, I wanna move to Nashville. Like I told my parents, I'm like, he told me, he's like, yeah, just drop out come. He's like, I think you're ready <laugh>. And I'm like, I'm like, oh shit. Chase Rise thinks I'm ready <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:16:04 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:05 And so, um, I told my parents that I just like, probably like threw it out there one day like, Hey, what if I just like didn't finish at UGA and went to Nashville? They were like, yeah, you're outta your damn mind. You're not doing
Speaker 1 00:16:17 That
Speaker 2 00:16:17 <laugh>. Um, and so from the end of my freshman year, cause I was in the spring finals of my freshman year, I kind of, from them then on was like, I'm gonna graduate and then go to Nashville. So then it kind of went to, okay, what do I need to do to prepare myself to go to Nashville? So that's when I was like, I gotta change my major cause I can't be serious about music and also be serious about accounting cuz they're too very, like accounting was like really hard at UGA
Speaker 1 00:16:43 <laugh>. It's, it's hard anywhere. Yeah. Honestly, it's, that's not an easy major. Like you gotta put in work. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:48 So I was like, I can't fully put in work into accounting if I'm having to fully put in work to music. So I was like, I feel like the marketing and digital marketing thing kind of all like lined up together. Um, cuz at that time too, I was gaining followers from just being in a sorority. Like Yeah. That's why people a lot of times will ask where like I got my following from. And I think it's not that it's like huge or anything. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:17:11 No. I would say it's bigger than most. You got a lot of people watch a lot of people that see you in content on, on Instagram and on TikTok too. I,
Speaker 2 00:17:18 I think it was a lot to do with the sorority though. Like we were posting game day pictures. We were going out like every night. Like in the sorority too, there's like, um, date nights and like themed stuff and like we would always go all out and my friend group and I were actually really close. So, um, I think people just followed us for that reason. Um, and then it kind of worked out cuz they were following for the s e c sorority thing. And then I just feel like a lot of that market, they like country music too. So once I started like doing country music, it kinda shit
Speaker 1 00:17:47 Up shit. Oh shit, this girl can sit. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:17:50 <laugh>. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that was, um, after, at uga I wanted to immediately move to Nashville my freshman year, but I had decided to stick it out. I'm glad I did though cuz I wouldn't trade that for anything. It was so fun. Like all the games and stuff and I still feel like, I don't feel like I'm behind or anything now cuz I didn't move then. Um, I'd probably be more ahead than I am obviously. But
Speaker 1 00:18:14 <laugh> well I think part of like go par because for Nash Nashville, it's a party town. Yeah. It's, it's turned into now. It used to just be a music town with some drinking. Now it's, it's a party. Like we, it's with Bachelorette Capital. There's all these conventions, there's this that, so like if you come up here at 18, 19 years old, you're, you're trying to do the music thing but you're partying your ass off. Right. Whereas you got a lot of that partying, you got a lot of that growing up in Athens and then you come here you're, I think you're more focused when you come up here at 22, 23 than you do at 18, you know? Right. Plus you can't get in anywhere. You were talking about Broadway, like Yeah, it's tough being under 21.
Speaker 2 00:18:48 My fake Id taken. Well that's what I was saying too. The, so my fake ID in Athens, um, they don't even look at it like Yeah. I'm show my Delta Sky Miles card that doesn't even have a photo of myself on it. That's awesome. You just need a rectangular thing to hand dumps.
Speaker 1 00:19:02 What's your top, what's your top bar in Athens? Cause I've been a couple times. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:19:05 Silvered Silver
Speaker 1 00:19:06 Dollar. Silver. Silver Dollar. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:19:08 Well that was when I was there, which was like two years ago I think now Bar South is really popular. Yeah. Um, it always wins all the bar stool things I see it on.
Speaker 1 00:19:16 Yeah. It's amazing how many bars are in Athens. Oh yeah, Georgia.
Speaker 2 00:19:19 Yeah. It's crazy. And that's why it kind of reminds me of Nashville cuz it's like, it kind of prepared me too for the drinking and stuff cuz like, um, I'll see people my age who are raging like I did in college and it's like they, it's cuz they didn't get the college experience. I'm like tired of doing that. Like Yeah. But we were doing that like all throughout college, like every day of the week. So
Speaker 1 00:19:41 <laugh>. Yeah. So are you, are you a Broadway girl? Do you go down the Broadway a lot?
Speaker 2 00:19:44 I am a Broadway girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:19:46 Does it you like the club where it's more dancing or do you, like what is it about it? I
Speaker 2 00:19:50 Know I like Jason EENs.
Speaker 1 00:19:52 <laugh>. Like what is it about Aldeen that you like?
Speaker 2 00:19:54 Um,
Speaker 1 00:19:55 Because it is a massive bar. It is a really cool bar. Freaking play
Speaker 2 00:19:58 Dixie Land Light, you know, <laugh> like, like I wanna, I wanna do the answer I want,
Speaker 1 00:20:04 You'll want the callbacks, dirty, dirty version of Dixie Land The Light, right?
Speaker 2 00:20:07 Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm a Midtown girl too though. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:20:11 Yeah. Well like you were saying Tin Roof, like Yeah. Tin Roof on Sundays or are you a red door person, losers person?
Speaker 2 00:20:17 Red door girl too. I
Speaker 1 00:20:19 <laugh>. Yeah, anywhere anywhere you can go, you're gonna go all the places you're going.
Speaker 2 00:20:23 Um, I would say I enj like, I'm probably more frequently in Midtown obviously, but I, I don't know. I guess I, I've only been here, I've been here for less than two years. So Broadway doesn't absolutely discuss me.
Speaker 1 00:20:35 Yeah. See for me it was, for me it was working on Broadway for a year. Yeah. And I don't drink so it's like being a sober guy that's a door guy. Right. I was at Whiskey Row, so it's like one of the crazy bars. Oh yeah. Sober
Speaker 2 00:20:46 On Broadway will do it for you.
Speaker 1 00:20:47 <laugh> Sober, sober babysitting people and breaking up fights and all the crazy shit on Broadway.
Speaker 2 00:20:52 I can't imagine cuz Yeah, Broadway is definitely like, I like going to Broadway for like events and stuff. Like if there's a big game on, it's like fun. But Yeah. Uh, you know, it's not Tuesday and I'm like let's go to Broadway, <laugh>. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:21:04 Okay. Yeah, that's what I was checking. Cause there's,
Speaker 2 00:21:06 I guess that that's what a Broadway girl is <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:21:07 Oh, they're seven days a week. Right. Like they're there to see somebody that they, cause they know the bartenders, they know who's playing. Like they know all that stuff.
Speaker 2 00:21:15 No, yeah. I, I guess I'm not a Broadway girl then, but I do. But on the weekend, see like it, I hate Broadway. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:21:21 Yeah. You won't be opposed, you won't be opposed to it. Um, where for you or what's the, um, or going back to your dad, so your dad was in a band. What was that like growing up around music in that way?
Speaker 2 00:21:33 Um, I think it's funny cause I always tell my dad, he brainwashed me. Like I know all the words to James Taylor songs cuz it's like
Speaker 1 00:21:41 Pretty raisy on the good shit, right? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:21:43 Jackson Brown. Like Graham Parsons. Like I hear stuff like Neil Young. I'm like, why was a freaking five year old listening to us? Yeah. Like why me as a five year old? Why did I know all the words to the songs? But now I'm like thankful. Cause I feel like those like melodies and stuff are engraved in my head. So it's yeah. Like subconscious and stuff. But my dad basically forced me. Like, I'm wanting to listen to like freaking flow rider. I don't even know what was around <laugh> when like, I'm just thinking like, I don't even know ACON or something. Yeah. And my dad's like, let's turn on some Emmylou Harris <laugh>. Like, I remember being so embarrassed. I would be embarrassed and like middle school cuz my friends would all get in the car, you know, and he's got like his music on and I'm like, sorry guys. <laugh>, they wanna listen to freaking kids Bob or whatever. I was listening to <laugh>. Um, but yeah, my dad grew up like I, I learned to play guitar, um, probably in high school.
Speaker 1 00:22:40 What was your, do you remember what your first guitar was?
Speaker 2 00:22:42 Oh yeah, I do because I, my dad bought it for me because I was being a sweet, sweet angel, um, <laugh>. So my first breakup was traumatic. I was like 16. I thought, you know, like first breakups are literally like horrible. Um,
Speaker 1 00:22:58 The world is ending. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2 00:22:59 Like I literally thought like, yeah the world's not spinning anymore. Um, <laugh>. So I was pretty miserable and dramatic. And um, I remember my dad just to cheer me up, he's like, well let's go to Guitar Center. Like, he always liked taking me in there and um, at this point, I don't even know if I could play like a G chord too. Like let's keep this in mind. <laugh>. Yeah. Um, and so he took me to Guitar Center and like they were having this sale, um, I think it's like Memorial Day or it was like something like that where they, like most of them were on sale. And um, there was this Taylor, the tailor that I play now, um, I really liked it and I was like, Ooh, I want that one. And it was on sale. So my dad was like, it's never gonna be on sale like this again.
Speaker 2 00:23:41 So like, we might as well, like, you're really sad right now. You haven't stopped crying in two weeks. So like, maybe this will be good. Um, they take it to the front, like wipe it down and stuff. And they're like, oh, this one's not on sale, by the way. So it was like way too expensive for someone who can't freaking even play a chord. Yeah. Um, and my dad looks at me and he could tell, I was like, really disappointed and he was like, do you really need it? And I was like, it's okay. Um, I've got my heart broken once this week. I think I could handle it again. Wow.
Speaker 1 00:24:08 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:24:09 And so he was like, Jesus Christ, <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:24:12 Alright, let's get the fucking guitar.
Speaker 2 00:24:14 Right. Um, so that's the tailor that I have now. And um, yeah, that's my first guitar. And then once, it was, once I actually got a nice guitar, that's when I started, like the first song I learned was Strawberry Wine. It's like four chords. Yeah. Obviously. So, and I found that like, once you learn the basic chords, you can pretty much play anything. Yeah. So I would start like trying to play different songs that have the same chords and that kind of thing. So I guess I was like 16 then. But yeah, I always grew up with guitars, but I, and then I played piano growing up. My parents forced me to do piano lessons like everyone else in America. <laugh>, <laugh> in the world probably. Yeah. Um, <laugh> and I hated it because I'm like learning jazz in the sixth grade and I'm like, I wanna play high school musical or something. <laugh>. Yeah. You know what I mean? Um, so yeah, I took piano lessons and then I didn't learn how to play guitar until I was like 16. But my dad always had music around. And, uh, my brother too, my oldest brother, uh, he's a better player than my dad. Really? Yeah. My, my dad's gonna be mad at me for saying that, but <laugh>. But um, yeah, so they both kind of always like those gigs that I was talking about in college, uh, they were my two guitar players. Wow.
Speaker 1 00:25:27 So
Speaker 2 00:25:27 It like in a little acoustic trio
Speaker 1 00:25:29 Thing. That's, that's really cool to do that with your family. Like, it, not everybody gets to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:25:33 It was cool. It was, it was sad moving to Nashville too, cuz it, it's like, okay, well now you gotta play gigs. And I'm like asking my dad and brother to take off work.
Speaker 1 00:25:41 <laugh> Do you, do you play guitar when you go home? Like is that still something that's entrenched in the family? Like you're hanging out with, with your dad and your brother?
Speaker 2 00:25:47 It never stops. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:49 That's, that's awesome though. And it sounds like growing up musical and doing all that, I mean, obviously you said like accounting and this and that, but it seems like you're in the right place. Like you're happy with where you're at. Yeah. I
Speaker 2 00:25:59 Feel like stuff has just happened and I'm thankful for it. Um, but yeah, it's, I don't know, I've kind of just have always gone with the flow and like do what's working and just like work hard and whatever's working, it's working and if something doesn't work, do something else. Like, um, but yeah, I really enjoy writing and playing and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:26:18 How often are you writing a week? How often are you trying to write?
Speaker 2 00:26:21 Um, probably around three to four times a week. Damn.
Speaker 1 00:26:24 Yeah. You're getting after it. Yeah. <laugh>. Hell yeah. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:26:27 Yeah, I i, well it's been,
Speaker 1 00:26:29 Do you go through swings where like you're, you're in the zone and you've got your, and I mean a lot of it has to do with life experience where you have shit to write about or you're going through kind of like a, you're feeling a little emo and you're going through one of those phases, but do you go through that where like you're like, I'm gonna drop the hammer, we're gonna, we're just writing right now and then there's other times where you're like, I wanna chill.
Speaker 2 00:26:48 Right? Yeah. It's definitely comes in waves and stuff, but I always try to, even if I'm not in the mood to write, I still try to like play and come up with melodies and stuff. Cuz sometimes when my life is boring I'm like, oh, I gotta go make some, like bad decisions or something so I can be
Speaker 1 00:27:01 Influenced time to go down these <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:27:03 Like literally I'm like, shit, should I text my eggs? <laugh>? Like let's just, I don't have any content.
Speaker 1 00:27:09 Let's let's rekindle an old flame for a, for a three and a half minute song. Let's go through a month of drama for three and a half minutes. No.
Speaker 2 00:27:15 Yeah. But it's, I I also to, I try to write alone cause I find it, if I write alone, um, it makes it easier writing with people. Cause one thing I hate to do is get in a room with someone and they're like, so what's going on? And you're like, no, no, not much. What about, you're like, yeah, not much. I'm like, and you
Speaker 1 00:27:32 Just sit
Speaker 2 00:27:32 There and I'm like, oh God, <laugh>. Like, so I try to, you know, write alone so I can come in prepared. Have
Speaker 1 00:27:38 You, have you found your, your core of like people that you're cool getting vulnerable with and they open up with you? Like, do you have your writers that you collaborated a lot with? Yeah, I'm to like
Speaker 2 00:27:47 Expand that group, but I definitely have some, like a good group guy
Speaker 1 00:27:51 Who are some of, who are some of your folks? Plug some of the friends, plug the homies
Speaker 2 00:27:54 Ben Williams and uh, Steven McMorran there at Major Bob. Yeah. And then, um, Mackenzie and Micah Carpenter.
Speaker 1 00:28:00 They are the shit.
Speaker 2 00:28:01 I freaking love that.
Speaker 1 00:28:02 They are badass.
Speaker 2 00:28:03 I wrote with Ben and Micah yesterday actually. Um, but yeah, I love them. And that's kind of who like, every time we get together we're like, the shit's gonna slap <laugh>. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:28:12 Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. They're And are they both at, is Kenzie a Georgia girl as well? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:19 Uh, Kenzie and Micah are both from Georgia, so,
Speaker 1 00:28:21 So there's that, that connection as well. Yeah. Which is cool.
Speaker 2 00:28:24 Yeah. And I used to write with like, Ben was my first, like when I said my first like co-write that was set up in Nashville was Ben, it was on Zoom. Um, and then we just started writing on Zoom a lot and we didn't even meet till like the spring of 2021. Wow. Um, and then, then I started writing with Micah Mackenzie and I was like, wait, we should all write together. Yeah. Because I always write good with Ben. I always write good with you guys. <laugh> and that's like, like that crew we wrote Hair Salon together. Yeah. And like, I'm not pretty, we have one called Nothing Crazy that's like hilarious. Yep. Yeah. We, we just wrote one called Beer Hunting
Speaker 1 00:28:57 <laugh>. Beer Hunting. Yeah. <laugh> sounds like a Luke Bryant song. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 2 00:29:01 <laugh>. It's just always fun with them. Like it definitely doesn't feel like we're working like the first hour we are just like, we're gonna get kicked out at Major Bob for being so loud. <laugh>. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1 00:29:09 Yeah. Just catch just catching up and shooting the shit. Being a little, being a little rowdy in there. Yeah. Are you, do, do the words usually come first do the melodies? Or does it all kind of depend on the day? Depend on the weather?
Speaker 2 00:29:19 Yeah. It probably depends on the day I try to come up. My biggest thing is the hook. Like, if I don't have the hook and don't understand the hook, I don't even really wanna ride it.
Speaker 1 00:29:27 You want, you want it to, you want it to hit you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:29:29 I wanted to hit hard. Um, but there has been some like a song that we just cut called I Love Me, we wrote the whole thing and until the Hook we had no idea what we were gonna say. Like <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:29:40 Just, just going along. We
Speaker 2 00:29:41 Literally wrote the first verse and we were like, damn, this is, this is cool, this is cool. And then we were like, okay, now what do we say? And that's like, I mean an example of sometimes it always doesn't happen like that, but I prefer to like know what we're gonna talk about <laugh>. Yeah. And then we can kind of like, okay, well if the hook says this, is that sad because we need a sad melody then, you know what I mean? Like <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:30:00 So you talk about songs that you're cutting and obviously you've got some releases out there now, which that has to feel good to have your own songs out there in the world right now. Um, who's producing a Christian Bush, right? Christian Bush. Yeah. What's that like?
Speaker 2 00:30:12 Well, he's great. Yeah. I,
Speaker 1 00:30:14 Uh, led a, a guy that's been very influential in country music the last 15, 20 years. Like Right.
Speaker 2 00:30:19 He's like literally one of the most talented guys I've ever met. Yeah. Like when he starts working, I just, like, my jaw was on the floor the first time I saw him like play mandolin. I'm like holy crap. Yeah. Um, but so I met him, I was in the music business program and they like required you to get an internship. Um, my first internship I worked at the classic center. It was like a nine to five. I had to wear business professional stuff and I basically did everyone's like, bitch work <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:30:45 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:30:46 Like the stuff that they didn't wanna do. They're like, sure you do it. And it was like, I wasn't, it wasn't paid but be, I am also, I have a hard time saying no to people. So if someone's like, do this thing that's gonna take you five hours even though you have four tests tomorrow and that you're not even getting paid to be here and you tightly don't have to be here, but we know that you'll do it. So here <laugh>. Um, so that was horrible. Second internship, um, was with Christian Bush and his brother Brandon Bush. They have like a publishing, um, label type thing out of Atlanta. And so I interned with them and so that's how I kind of met him. And I, I was mainly working with Brandon though his brother more and I literally didn't even mention that I sang or anything to them cuz I was like, they
Speaker 1 00:31:27 Just thought you were a music business kid. Right.
Speaker 2 00:31:28 Yeah. <laugh>. And I was like there to work obviously, so I'm not gonna be like I fri I remember walking in and there's a Grammy on the wall and I was like, <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:31:36 Where the fuck am I? Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:31:38 I was like, oh God, I can't do this. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so I finished the internship. I guess that was like around graduation, so like May or April or May. I was probably done doing that. And then I moved in June and then June, July around probably August I reached out to Christian and Brandon was like, I'm having a hard time meeting people. Like is there anything, like, by the way, I moved to Nashville and I write songs and sing <laugh>, um, could y'all help Like in any way? And they kind of acted as mentors and then we ended up cutting what's out now, which is, uh, wonder and haven't met yet. Yeah. And um,
Speaker 1 00:32:15 That melody of wonder, it just sticks in your fucking head by the way. I hate you for that, but also like, good shit. Like that's what you want. But as a music listener it's like you can't get that that done done.
Speaker 2 00:32:26 Yeah. We kind of just recorded it cuz I was like, I guess I need something so that I can, cuz at the time too, it's like when you're trying to meet someone, they're like, okay, send over stuff. And I'm like, if all I have is like a shitty work tape of like something, it's hard. You know? I mean like work tapes are fine, but yeah. I wanted to come a little more professionally. You want
Speaker 1 00:32:43 The polish in there.
Speaker 2 00:32:44 Yeah. Um, and so they helped me do that and then I put it on TikTok and the Wonder thing it like got really popular so I was like, oh shit, I have to put this out. <laugh>. Yeah. Like I, that wasn't ever like, we didn't really have a plan with it. I like, it was kind of like I was gonna just figure it out first before I decided I wanted to put anything out. I actually thought having met yet was gonna be my first single. Yeah. And I posted Wonder on TikTok just to say like, Hey, um, I'm just going to like post this to hold you guys over, but there's actually a different song coming. And then when Wonder blew up, I was like, if I don't put out wonder people are gonna be pissed off. Yeah. Cause they're waiting on wonder.
Speaker 1 00:33:18 Well, we see that too. I mean, I'm working with, working with Trey Lewis. I'm very close with like Ella Langley like a lot of other artists right now. Like TikTok is kind of a deciding factor. You post something on there, it's hard, it blows up. And even if it's not, even if it's a different direction Right. And what you're doing, you could post the demo or just you singing acoustic. And I know you have videos like that. Right. Cause I've seen them where you're sitting in your, you're sitting in your apartment and you're playing
Speaker 2 00:33:40 And they're like, when is this coming out? I'm like, I just wrote this today,
Speaker 1 00:33:43 <laugh>, I just wrote this today. I've I've I've paid money to record three other songs. Like I've got these and
Speaker 2 00:33:48 Right. And it takes a long time. And even if you're on top of your shit, it's like, well now I have to shoot the cover art. And now like, it's just like people on
Speaker 1 00:33:55 TikTok upload don't understand have Yeah. But, but at the same time it is, it is so cool that it's another way of discovery for artists like yourself that don't have the label thing going right now, that don't have all that big backing. Like in fact that there could be hundreds of thousands of people and some kid, some videos, millions of people that hear your original music. That's pretty
Speaker 2 00:34:13 Sick. Right. That, that's kind of like with what happened with Wonder is I had never had a million next to anything on my name. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I'm like, I think that one got like over 3 million. Yeah. So when I saw that, I was like, oh crap.
Speaker 1 00:34:25 And all the re-shares, but,
Speaker 2 00:34:26 And it's, it's hard to
Speaker 1 00:34:27 But people using the sounds, that's a big thing
Speaker 2 00:34:29 Too. Right, right. For me, I had Instagram but nowhere near 3 million people. Yeah. So it was like, oh, I saw a lot of comments being like, I'm looking for you on Spotify and I can't even find you because at the time I didn't have anything. And so I kind of did wonder as to capitalize on like the people. I was like, if I'm gonna post on TikTok, I at least need to have a page they can go follow or something. Like, I know that this isn't, like, this isn't exactly what I'm trying to do, but if I can like give them something, they can at least go find my name and it can start to be like, name recognition of like, cause it, uh, January of 2021, I ended my like influencer contract thing that I had. So
Speaker 1 00:35:08 I Oh, you had a contract for that. I was gonna get to ask. I had an agent. I know nothing about that world at all. <laugh>. I follow plenty of influence. I, I don't understand. Like it's just not something that I'm familiar with. Yeah. They make you sign a contract for that.
Speaker 2 00:35:20 Well I had an agent, um, that kind of got me the deals and I had to give them a percentage of whatever I made. Oh shit. But yeah, it was the influencer thing, um, was just like a lot of work and I didn't want to be like, I wanted to be taken more seriously. You know, I didn't,
Speaker 1 00:35:37 Especially for music, if that's
Speaker 2 00:35:39 What you're trying to do. You know, in music, I, it was so hard though because it's so, it's stupid money for what you have to do. Like, you know, you post and
Speaker 1 00:35:46 Free shit and trips and this that
Speaker 2 00:35:48 I freaking, I know free, you get free trips, you get all this stuff. I post one picture and pay off my rent for the month. It's like, are you freaking kidding me? Yeah. Like, like, but I, like, I fortunately I saved up a lot of that stuff and then I just ended my contract cuz I was like, I can't, um, I can't do both. And I wanted to take music
Speaker 1 00:36:06 Seriously. How long, how long were you doing that influencer thing?
Speaker 2 00:36:09 Um, I did that all through, well it started in college and I got an agent that whole year of Covid or it was like, I think it was only like a six month contract maybe, but it was during the Covid thing where nothing was happening cuz I was like, I need some way to make money and you know, if I have to smile with some freaking hairspray <laugh> like,
Speaker 1 00:36:29 Hey, it's better than having a damn only fans or something. You know, they're, they're different things.
Speaker 2 00:36:34 Right. Um, but I definitely, I saw how it was like kind of damaging to the, okay, is she an influencer? Is she a music person? And I that when I started writing like better songs, I'm like, I don't wanna have, I don't want there to be any confusion here. Yeah. Like, um, but I'm sure I'm gonna start picking up deals like with Bud Light again. Like I used to work with them and I feel like that's pretty on brand. Like Yes. Yeah. With the whole music thing, like being able to do stuff like that. But, um, it was definitely hard to be like, I'm not doing that anymore because I used to just be able to, I had so much freedom with what I wanted to do and Yeah. You know, like recently all my friends just went on this trip to LA and I'm like, I can't go because I just, I don't have the influencer money that my, a lot of my friends are influencers. Um, and so I'm like, yeah, I will be passing on that one.
Speaker 1 00:37:22 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. What's, what's it like to, um, what are, what were some of the struggles of doing that stuff?
Speaker 2 00:37:28 The
Speaker 1 00:37:29 Influencing it? Yeah. Or was it really just a pretty cush gig if you're noting out the music thing? You think you'd keep doing
Speaker 2 00:37:33 It? I mean, yeah, it was, it was fine. I personally didn't like it because like, it just is not me like stand like being like, try these CBD drops and use my code for 15%. Like I just, I didn't like doing it. It would put, it would literally put me in a bad mood and I would like find myself, I would be like, why am I like in such a bad mood over this? This is so easy. But it's like, I literally hated doing it. So <laugh>. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that kind, that ended in 2021 and then my wonder came out February, 2021. So
Speaker 1 00:38:07 And that's when the shift,
Speaker 2 00:38:08 So that's, yeah, that's when I started to be like, okay, I can't do this influencer stuff. I'm gonna do this. Um, I'm gonna release Wonder and then I release. Haven't met yet. Those were kind of like TikTok things and I'm thankful that TikTok can um, you know, like get your stuff out to so many people. Yeah. Like it's, their algorithm is just so different from Instagram where um, it's definitely beneficial but I don't think it's everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:38:32 And Instagram changes. There's a lot don't they?
Speaker 2 00:38:33 Yeah. Instagram confuses me at this point. Like I just kind of post whatever on there. <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, I mean like you do too much music stuff and then it, your algorithm gets messed up. You do too much lifestyle stuff and then people want more music stuff. It's just like, I just post whatever is happening in my life really. <laugh>. Hell
Speaker 1 00:38:49 Yeah. Yeah. No. Um, for you, what have some cool national moments been?
Speaker 2 00:38:54 Um, Nashville moments,
Speaker 1 00:38:56 Like moments since you've been in, you're like, damn, I'm happy I'm here cuz I couldn't have this happen anywhere else.
Speaker 2 00:39:02 Um, well when was that? Your the, the round. Were Miranda in
Speaker 1 00:39:06 There <laugh>? Yeah, that was, that was cool. That was what, that was Jan January maybe. That was January. January.
Speaker 2 00:39:12 Yeah, I think
Speaker 1 00:39:13 So. It was towards the end of January. Yeah. So that was Ring gold. So yeah. That And what's wild about that too is how Miranda Lambert ended up at Live Oak that night. <laugh>, do you know who Party Marty is? Have you met him before? Uhuh? He's one of the wild great dude. Love him like a brother. He's like, he's like that crazy cousin that you're like, hell yeah, he's gonna be at Thanksgiving. It's gonna be rowdy. That's Party Marty. I've deed his ass around all over the place. <laugh>. So he plays, he's really good at golf. So he golfs, um, over, he golfs with like John Daley and a lot of people over at um, old Hickory. So he's become boys with Miranda's husband. So he, and he was playing that night. He was like, yo, y'all should come out. And he was like, yeah, I'm gonna bring him Miranda with him. I was like, oh shit. Like do I gotta put him in like a private table or whatever? And they just sat at the bar and chilled and she loved your shit. That was what the coolest thing was. I wanted to make sure we got her like up front cause she was like, I want to watch the writers. I wanna see the music. Yeah. And that I remember you being like, oh shit. Randall Ams whatever there, what do I do? <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:40:05 Dude, I was freaking out and I didn't e I wouldn't even look at her cause I was
Speaker 1 00:40:08 So nervous. <laugh>. Yeah. She's front row. I can't even look in
Speaker 2 00:40:11 That general area.
Speaker 1 00:40:13 <laugh>. Yeah. She dug, she dug She dug your shit though. I remember she Wait, she, she like she pointed at you. She walked
Speaker 2 00:40:20 Out. Right. I I saw her when she left, but during, when I was singing in seven, I'm like, I can't look
Speaker 1 00:40:26 <laugh>. Yeah. Do you had, was was stage fright ever a big thing for you? Like, not even thinking about that moment, but like your first rounds in Nashville? What were those like? Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:40:35 It was more just intimidating cuz I, it was, you know, just being the new kid, you know. Yeah. And just not, and I was used to any gig. I played having my dad, my brother with me. So then it's like, you go here and I'm like playing by myself. That's when I like had to learn to get more comfortable just playing me in a guitar. Um, but I mean, sta I don't know. I feel like I've never been, um, too afraid to be on stage ever.
Speaker 1 00:41:00 What was your first whiskey jam? Like parents? Because you've done a couple of 'em. My parents
Speaker 2 00:41:04 Were here. Yeah. My parents were there. That was cool. It was really fun. Um, it's Whiskey Jam is just like, everyone says it. Like you go up there and then it's like, what just happened? You get off stage like, what just happened?
Speaker 1 00:41:14 <laugh>, you can't, you can't hear shit. It's, it's raw. The crowd's right on me.
Speaker 2 00:41:17 Right. It was really fun though. I remember it being packed and stuff and all my friends were there. My friends were there wearing my merch and stuff. So it was like,
Speaker 1 00:41:24 Yeah, I think I remember seeing
Speaker 2 00:41:25 That. And my whiskey gym was my first show in Nashville. My first full band show ever. Um, my first show since Covid, and then it was the first Whiskey Jam. So it was like cool to be able to do all that the same night. So that was like, I was, I was probably really nervous, but I don't really remember. I try to play it off like I'm not nervous. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:41:43 You do a good job of it. I don't, I don't, I don't see, uh, at Live Oak or see at Whiskey Jam where I'm like, oh, this girl's nervous because you, you can tell when some people are nervous, but you, you hold your shit together really well. I
Speaker 2 00:41:53 Try. I
Speaker 1 00:41:54 Try. You do a good job. Uh, sure. I don't
Speaker 2 00:41:56 Always but
Speaker 1 00:41:57 <laugh> no, I won't. We don't. We all have it. We all have our, we all have our moments. So what have we got going on in 2022? I've seen some studio teasing on the Gram where you're like, Hey, I'm in this like, like hand in the studio.
Speaker 2 00:42:09 Um, so I cut six songs.
Speaker 1 00:42:13 Wow. That's a, as an ep, as singles. What are we thinking?
Speaker 2 00:42:16 Allegedly an ep. Allegedly.
Speaker 1 00:42:18 I'm not gonna <laugh>. Allegedly Alleged. Allegedly guys. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Speaker 2 00:42:22 Yeah. I cut six songs. <laugh>. Um, and then, I mean, I don't think this is really a secret, but my first single will be Hair salon. So let's, let's go. Like, that's the one everyone's waiting on.
Speaker 1 00:42:32 Why, why that? Why that one? Is it just cause the buzz
Speaker 2 00:42:35 Or what? Just TikTok both the videos. I, I mean, I think the first one I posted has over a million now and then the other one has like over 3 million and it's like, those are the only two videos I posted of the song. So I can't, I get like harassed too. People in my dms are like, stop posting pictures of your life. We want hair salon. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1 00:42:53 <laugh>. Wow.
Speaker 2 00:42:54 And or someone sent me a dm, uh, I need to do the mean dms where it was like, are you gonna release your songs or just let your career slip away <laugh>. I was like, okay.
Speaker 1 00:43:03 Like guys, I'm working on it. We're working on it. I promise the shit doesn't happen overnight. I'm not a SoundCloud rapper. Like, what do you want from it?
Speaker 2 00:43:09 Right. And that, I think I learned that about TikTok with my first two releases is like, I felt really pressured that when they got popular on TikTok to like get 'em out as soon as possible. But like, even wonder, I wanted to redo the vocals. Like I wasn't happy with it before it even came out. And like, oh, I feel like all artists are like, they eventually get tired of their songs and they want you,
Speaker 1 00:43:28 You're gonna be your own biggest critic. Like That'ss part of
Speaker 2 00:43:31 It. I didn't even like it before we put it out though. So really now I really, yeah, <laugh>, like I love the song. I just wish we would've had more time to like, you know, change the things I wanted to change about it. Um, so that's like with Hair Salon and these new songs, I'm like, have really taken my time because I know that people are harassing me on social media to release them. But, um, hopefully they'll be patient and wait because I wanna make sure that they're like the best they can be, rather than just being like, it blew up on TikTok, so I gotta get it out as soon as
Speaker 1 00:43:59 Possible. Has your TikTok following crossed over to Instagram and vice versa? Have you seen that it cross where it's crossed over a lot? Cause I find like that's like, I know people that have hundreds of thousands of followers on TikTok, but they're still working on getting that crossed over to Instagram. Right?
Speaker 2 00:44:13 I think Instagram is definitely harder to gain followers. I don't know why. I don't know why it's like that, but, um, yeah, it's, I mean, I notice if like a vi like a video does good on TikTok. I notice like it translates to Instagram followers. Um, but it's definitely not as much <laugh>. Okay. Yeah. Like Instagram's ag or talk's algorithm is just better.
Speaker 1 00:44:35 Yeah. What do you prefer going live on? Because I feel like TikTok, I've
Speaker 2 00:44:37 Never gone live on TikTok. Really? I should though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:40 <laugh> you sh you should do that. Yeah. Cuz I have friends that, that do that and they, people go nuts. And that's gonna be people that are there for your music. Right. Which is the crowd you're looking for. That's, yeah. That's
Speaker 2 00:44:49 He's the proud you're looking for. Yeah, that's what it's been. Um, there was definitely a time when I stopped doing the influencing thing that people stopped f like there was like a weird like slow period where I noticed like I wasn't gaining any followers and like people were unfollowing and, and then more people started following because my music and that kind of stuff. Just cuz like I went from being this like college sorority girl. Yeah. To now I'm gonna be posting me singing all the time. And I understand that not everyone that wants to see a sorority girl might wanna see the same sorority girl with the guitar <laugh>. So Yeah. Um, once I like kind of switched over though, now it's like fine people kind of, that's my brand. I mean like people go to my Instagram and they're not confused on
Speaker 1 00:45:29 What's going on. I think you do a very good job of mixing in a little bit of like what you're doing on the weekend with your friends and then the new shit you've got coming music wise. Like I see what's, what's there.
Speaker 2 00:45:39 Definitely tough to do cuz it's sort of all strategic, but it's,
Speaker 1 00:45:44 Isn't it annoying that social media's gotta be strategic like that? It is in way like most people, they just gotta sit back. And
Speaker 2 00:45:50 I do, I try not to pay too much attention to it though and stuff like, I don't care about what time of day I post and like, like I post some dumb shit on my stories. Like this is Sweetie Pie story that I did other
Speaker 1 00:46:01 Day. Yeah. Your your dog. My
Speaker 2 00:46:03 Dog. Yeah. Your
Speaker 1 00:46:04 Dog. What's the dog's name? He Henley
Speaker 2 00:46:05 Henley. After Don Henley.
Speaker 1 00:46:07 How, how old is, how old is he now?
Speaker 2 00:46:09 Um, he's gotta be, I bet he's probably like 14 weeks.
Speaker 1 00:46:12 Is he up here or is he back in Georgia?
Speaker 2 00:46:13 He's in Georgia, but my, I'm playing around this Saturday, which I, it's like the only Saturday round. Yeah. And so my parents are coming, so they're bringing him Oh's.
Speaker 1 00:46:20 Awesome. Saturday. There you go. Hell yeah. Yeah. Um, what have you been out doing a, like have you gone out undone the road thing yet? I think I saw you did some stuff over the summer, right? Um, or was it the early fall maybe?
Speaker 2 00:46:32 I did, I'm trying to think. Like, I probably did do stuff in the summer, but I did, I went on a run in um, November, the beginning of November. So that was,
Speaker 1 00:46:41 Where was that at?
Speaker 2 00:46:42 Um, Birmingham and then Picky in Mississippi. I feel like I played somewhere else too and I, oh, and then I went to Georgia <laugh>. Um, but yeah, that
Speaker 1 00:46:52 Was, it all kind of blends together almost.
Speaker 2 00:46:53 I know. I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1 00:46:54 Where, where in Birmingham were you?
Speaker 2 00:46:56 The Finn. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:46:57 See, a lot of people have been talking about the Finn, like, cuz the crowd is ki the crowd's pretty fun.
Speaker 2 00:47:03 Yeah. And they, um, I thought the ticket sales and stuff like that, like we got paid a pretty good amount. Cause it's by like, like if you keep, they told me to, I could play like 30 more minutes and I'd make like X amount more. And I was like, hell yeah, I'll do it. I'm like, we'll freaking play strawberry one 10 more times if like Yeah, we have to. Um, but yeah, that was cool. That's like a newer spot and they had like my country set, it was like a full band thing and then they had a DJ coming after us. So it was like, it was cool. It was like a good spot for this party
Speaker 1 00:47:34 After you <laugh> Yeah. Birmingham knows how to throw down a lot. And that's something that's cool too that you'll get to see as you, as you keep growing. Cuz I have a feeling you're gonna be out in the road quite a bit this year. Like it's, it's all No, no, it's, it's all, it's all happening. You know, you got the songs, you're freaking badass person and the Connect like the southeast, there's so many places to play Right. That are all within driving distance and being a Georgia girl, like, you're gonna, you're gonna get out there and rock it. Where's some places that you want to go? Like, where's the place you haven't been before that you'd be like, it'd be cool to play music there.
Speaker 2 00:48:03 Um, well I've literally only ever played in like Georgia and then here a little bit. And then that one place in Mississippi I like, I don't know, I I wanna go to like more college towns like Alabama. Like
Speaker 1 00:48:16 You wanna go to Tuscaloosa, like
Speaker 2 00:48:17 Tuscaloosa and even like Auburn. Like I feel like those would
Speaker 1 00:48:19 Be really fun. Sky Bar is, yeah. I don't know if you've ever been to Sky Bar. Yeah, sky. It's, it's a time
Speaker 2 00:48:23 As a drinker, not as a player. <laugh>. Yeah. It's,
Speaker 1 00:48:26 I've, I've been as a babysitter and it is quite the experience that Sleep Boy can tell you it is Skybar is quite the experience. Um,
Speaker 2 00:48:33 My friend almost got in a fight there. Really? Yeah. But it's cuz Georgia was winning and she was being obnoxious. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:48:39 She was out loud. Now Bulldogs fan
Speaker 2 00:48:42 Barking at people,
Speaker 1 00:48:43 Uh, bar. Oh. What, what's the Georgia Park sound like? Is it like,
Speaker 2 00:48:46 Oh, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 00:48:47 You're not doing it. I'm not.
Speaker 2 00:48:48 If I was intoxicated.
Speaker 1 00:48:49 If you were intoxicated you would do it. No problem. No
Speaker 2 00:48:52 Problem. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:48:53 What's, it's pretty, are you, are you big into sports? Like do you follow the stuff?
Speaker 2 00:48:57 Georgia, I mean Georgia football. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:48:59 Georgia football. You don't, you're not a big, are you a big Braves girl?
Speaker 2 00:49:02 Like a
Speaker 1 00:49:02 Forum,
Speaker 2 00:49:03 But I'm, I'm here to an extent. If I had a team it would be the Braves. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I just kind of professional athletes are me
Speaker 1 00:49:15 <laugh> me. Why me? Why do you say why boys suck? Oh, so you're, oh yeah. Cuz you know, you know it as an inf you know, you know professional athletes different than I'm like Right that I'm like, that guy hit the hell out of a baseball. You're like, that guy's a dick. Some
Speaker 2 00:49:30 <laugh>, some sports. I'm just triggered by <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:49:33 Oh, so baseball players, are they your least favorite?
Speaker 2 00:49:35 I've only ever dated baseball players. Yeah. Oh, your
Speaker 1 00:49:38 Cleat chaser.
Speaker 2 00:49:39 Eh, I feel like the cleats chased me.
Speaker 1 00:49:41 Oh, you just, you just entertained me off. Oh
Speaker 2 00:49:44 Shit. But um, yeah, not anymore. Not anymore. Those are my old days. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:49:49 Damn.
Speaker 2 00:49:49 But yeah, go Braves.
Speaker 1 00:49:51 Go Braves. But for you being a Georgia girl, um, obviously being an alumni like all that, what, what was it like to see the bulldogs finally take down the big dead wolf? It was
Speaker 2 00:50:00 Pretty awesome. Yeah. I, that was a good night. I missed the first half of the game cause I was playing at the listening room, but as soon as we left we went to losers and watched the rest and I, it was great. I loved personally at the very end, like the last 30 seconds when Alabama just falls apart. Cause I'm like, that's usually us. Yeah. And then they pan over to the Alabama fans that are like, and they're all crying and I'm like, that's usually us.
Speaker 1 00:50:23 That's what we've been looking like for the last 25 fucking years. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:50:27 Right. They find all the girls that are crying in the stands and I'm like, that's usually us. So it's really nice to be on the other side of it once <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:50:33 Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Cause it's, I was gonna say it's been a great year to be a Georgia sports fan. Oh yeah. Between the Braves, between the dogs and it was,
Speaker 2 00:50:40 It was funny too cuz I wrote a song called God Plays a Gibson and I wrote the chorus. Uh, we didn't finish it till after they had won, but I wrote a chorus the morning of the national championship and it was, it was like, basically like you're saying, it's like I bet God drives a Silverado but his house, it's on some land and this year it's pretty clear he is a Georgia Bulldogs fan. So I wrote that before we even won. And then I like, I called my mom and I was like, I think I might've just jinxed Georgia. And she was like, you better stop that <laugh>. Like my mom is the biggest Georgia fan. Like if we start losing my mom goes to bed and won't talk to us all day. Wow. The rest
Speaker 1 00:51:14 Of the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:51:17 But um, yeah. I'm glad I didn't jinx Georgia. I think I might have manifested that for them. There you
Speaker 1 00:51:22 Go. There you go. Sounds like you deserve a championship ring. Right? You know, we gotta see.
Speaker 2 00:51:26 I know. Seriously <laugh>, I have the work tape, uh, timestamp too. So it's like I've got my, have
Speaker 1 00:51:31 You put that video up anywhere?
Speaker 2 00:51:33 Uh, it's on my Instagram, but I didn't post on TikTok because I, I'm scared to post new songs that I'm didn't cut on TikTok. Cause people then people Why are
Speaker 1 00:51:41 You scared though? Because then it just makes 'em ready for more shit. Like
Speaker 2 00:51:44 I'm just,
Speaker 1 00:51:45 Is
Speaker 2 00:51:45 There, this new stuff is coming pretty soon. So I've kind of just put a hold on the songs that I've been writing super recently just cuz I don't wanna make anyone really angry because you can, I can tell like I posted hair salon, um, that was probably like September maybe
Speaker 1 00:52:03 It's only been since September and people are freaking out like, where the fuck is it? Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>
Speaker 2 00:52:07 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:52:08 Yeah. But, but at the same time, I mean it's, that's a good problem to have. That means people are like, yeah, they're, they're ready for your shit.
Speaker 2 00:52:14 Yeah. I'm grateful that people are waiting, but it's definitely like anytime I post anything I get where's hair salon comments and my dms are just like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh my God. Okay. I'm trying
Speaker 1 00:52:28 <laugh> what's some, what are some of the wildest dms you've gotten since moving to Nashville? Or were they wilder when you were doing the influencer thing?
Speaker 2 00:52:34 Um, probably wilder during the influencer stage. Um, just some weird stuff. Like I've like, they want my socks and
Speaker 1 00:52:43 They want your socks.
Speaker 2 00:52:44 They want, yeah, they want my clothes. I'm like, I get scared posting on Poshmark that because I'm like, what if, what's,
Speaker 1 00:52:51 What's Poshmark? I don't know what's
Speaker 2 00:52:52 Posh mark's like where I sell my clothes. Like I just do like a closet clean out and I'll like sell it. Okay. I'm like just scared. This's gonna be like some creepy man that like buys it <laugh> and then yeah. I'm just like, it's like a lot of like older men that really come with some crazy dances. I get asked on a lot of dates via dm. Some of them are really polite. Um, but that's just not really my,
Speaker 1 00:53:14 From people that live here in Nashville or
Speaker 2 00:53:17 Ev everywhere, but yeah, in Nashville too.
Speaker 1 00:53:19 They'll, they're like, if you say yes, I'll fly to Nashville, I'll take you to dinner. Like Yeah. That kind of shit. Like that.
Speaker 2 00:53:24 Yeah. Damn. It's interesting.
Speaker 1 00:53:26 Um, do you have people that like re like is again the influencer thing mixed with the con mixed with the artist thing was when you first moved up here, were there weird people like bumping into you at bars or like things like that?
Speaker 2 00:53:38 Um, there's always weird people at bars like <laugh>. I told it to do it at the bar the other day that I was engaged because he wouldn't leave me alone. So it,
Speaker 1 00:53:47 You gotta go out and get your like a little cheap ring.
Speaker 2 00:53:49 He's like, he's like, yeah, well he is like, well where's your ring? And I'm like, I don't wear it on Broadway. Like, you can't lose it. Yeah. Are you kidding me? That's,
Speaker 1 00:53:55 Hey, that's a good outright there. Look at you.
Speaker 2 00:53:58 I know. Well I'm like, I am a faithful woman. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:02 That's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:54:04 Um, but yeah, I, I feel like at this point I just try to um, make them suddenly uninterested. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:14 Because the thing is too, you're out with like your girl gang, like all you guys and a lot of them are still influencer. You come from that life. Y'all are very, very young attractive girls out there just having a good time, not wanting to be bothered. Right. And then you find
Speaker 2 00:54:25 Some people are like fun and stuff, but some people are definitely creepy. I've learned that out of all my friends. I'm definitely the one where I don't think we owe the creepy man that won't leave us alone. Anything. Yeah. Like they're like still talking to him and I'm like, guys, there's, let's wrap it
Speaker 1 00:54:39 Up here. There's, there's 50, there's 50 bars on the street. And also as a former bouncer you mentioned there's a guy being weird. We'll get him the fuck out. We'll take pleasure in getting him out. We'll we'll be the hero for a second and get him outta here. Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:54:51 I I try to just be as nice as I can about it, but they get the point that it's like we are not interested. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:57 So <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:54:58 Yeah. Um, I'm like the guard dog of the friend group. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:55:00 Yeah. Now some quick Nashville, uh, questions. Uh, favorite Mexican place? Cause I've learned or you're not a big Mexican person. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:55:07 No.
Speaker 1 00:55:07 I was gonna say I feel like you have to be, you're from Georgia. You guys love your Mexican food down here.
Speaker 2 00:55:12 Um, let me think here. I really like Ta del Soul cuz that's a, um, Athens thing. I used to go like three times a week. So
Speaker 1 00:55:20 It's like a taste of home that they have it
Speaker 2 00:55:21 Up to. Yeah. Um, but I also really like Saint Ajo because of the, the case of their slots. Place,
Speaker 1 00:55:27 Place is taco
Speaker 2 00:55:28 And I get the um, cilantro lime steak tacos wrapped in lettuce.
Speaker 1 00:55:33 Fancy. Oh
Speaker 2 00:55:35 It's very, or they're like little lettuce cups. Yeah. It makes you feel like you're being healthy after you just down the whole thing at queso <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:55:41 Yeah. It's all about balance. You know, all
Speaker 2 00:55:43 About balance. It's like I'm literally eating lettuce. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:55:45 You're your drinker choice. You're out at Tin Roof. Are you a pipe bomber?
Speaker 2 00:55:48 Oh, I'm a pipe bomber. Always. I, that's my problem is I can't say no and if someone, I'm always like, oh, you wanna take a pipe bomb with me? Do you think you can do it faster than me? <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:55:58 Oh, you got me on that one. I got you on this next one. And then you are the four round you in the four bombs deep. Um,
Speaker 2 00:56:04 I would say my go-to drink if I'm out is a cost amigo soda, lime. Um, it's, it's safe. It's um, you can drink it in large quantities. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:56:14 So you're a big, have you been to the There's a tequila bar I think down this way now. Oh really? Or over, it's called Nada or something. I drove past it the other day and it looked, it's just a wall of tequila, like from the window. So that might be a place to, to check out. I love tequila. Yeah. Obviously I'm not drinking nothing. I'm, I'm California sober <laugh>. So we, we, we, we do what we do but can't exactly go to the bar for that.
Speaker 2 00:56:37 Um, yeah, but I do like spicy Mars and stuff, but I can't really drink those. Like, I can probably have one of those and then it's like, okay, that's enough.
Speaker 1 00:56:43 Yeah. Where's like one of your hidden gems here in Nashville? Like a spot? Um, not trying to get you to put out all your secret spots, but we all have 'em here in town.
Speaker 2 00:56:52 I'm, I'm trying to think. I kind of go to the same spot. So,
Speaker 1 00:56:55 Or even if it's outside of town a little bit or something over in east or north or south or
Speaker 2 00:57:00 Oh, hidden Gem that, I mean, I don't know if this is hidden or not, but Wild des Abi.
Speaker 1 00:57:05 Where's that? Uh, it's hidden. Exactly. That's fucking hidden. Fucking hidden to me. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:57:09 Um, it's this sushi place that's like next to the Gibson store, like towards downtown. It's like in between the gulch and downtown ish. Um, but there's, it's my favorite sushi in Nashville. Wow. And I, I would choose it over Barago and over like the fancy nice places. Oh shit. It's like, okay, you sit at the little like, it's like little wooden tables, like they have it like Steve ebs, you know, <laugh>. It's like you like you, you'd go in and you're like, yeah this place isn't gonna be good. It slaps. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:57:35 Do you um, do you fuck around with hot chicken at all? You're talking about spicy marks? I'm thinking that's a yes. Um,
Speaker 2 00:57:40 I, not really, to be honest. Really? I like spicy chicken sandwiches from chick flavor. Oh. Chick. Not
Speaker 1 00:57:46 Really ex extra pickles. Right. Extra pickles, extra pickles,
Speaker 2 00:57:49 Extra pickles. <laugh>. Yeah. But um, hot chicken is, I feel like it's really heavy and I just don't eat
Speaker 1 00:57:58 Heavy things like that.
Speaker 2 00:57:59 Things like that all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:58:00 See coming from New York,
Speaker 2 00:58:01 If I was like super hungover then you'll probably be good.
Speaker 1 00:58:02 Yeah. See coming over, coming from New York, all we eat is heavy shit. <laugh> bagels, pasta, pizza sandwich, pot roast. This that. Wait, I wanted to Las
Speaker 2 00:58:10 Buy that uh, pizza place that you posted that you said it was like, it's only open certain days. Isn't that
Speaker 1 00:58:14 What would, I would say right, right now you guys probably, if I don't know what you're doing after you guys probably have time to, to go down there. It's on um, Elm Hill Pike. It's called Joey's House of Pizza. It's real, it's four, four people in there. It's a mom. Uh, the old lady, her daughter, her son, I think their nephew. And they're all from Brooklyn and it's Jo Joey's house. Oh. So
Speaker 2 00:58:32 It's lots Joey's
Speaker 1 00:58:33 House of pizza. Yeah. From open from 11 to three. Uh, no free ads of course. Um, <laugh> got my little bar stool reference in there. <laugh>. Um, they're open, I think it's like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Like they're only open three days a week for four hours cuz they
Speaker 2 00:58:46 Oh they're that good. It's,
Speaker 1 00:58:47 It's really good. And they've got like the chicken parm and the eggplant, like everything in there if you want it. But just go in there and get a slice. You gotta
Speaker 2 00:58:54 I'm si I talked to you about the Fedi before too, right? That place in Freehold, New Jersey.
Speaker 1 00:58:58 Yes. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:58:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like big pizza
Speaker 1 00:59:00 Girl. Yeah. Cause I have, cuz that's an interesting thing too. Like I found that out. I think your mom had come up to one of the rounds. Yeah. And had told me that they, that your family's originally Jersey folks and I have family from right over there. I used to work and live in Jersey. So I think you made the good decision. I'd say growing up in Georgia and growing up in Jersey, I love Jersey but Georgia's pretty fucking cool. So Yeah, you definitely lucked out.
Speaker 2 00:59:21 Yeah. Do you like uh, five Points pizza?
Speaker 1 00:59:24 It's all right. See, I'm out. I'm out. Um, in Hermitage. So we've got SALs and we've got Salvos and McElwain had a sweet boys out of a bunch. Salvos like Undercook it so I have to like throw it in the oven. I'm like, I'm a pizza snob being full.
Speaker 2 00:59:36 I always tell them to make it crispy because no one ever gets it. And I'm like, no, I want it to be black on some parts. <laugh>. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:59:41 You want Black Crush, you wanna be able to bite in the pizza and fucking feel a crunch and you got gotta,
Speaker 2 00:59:46 When I fold it, I want a nice like yes, a firm crust. Yes,
Speaker 1 00:59:50 You're gonna love Joey's. Then Joey's House of Pizza's. The spot, the spot for you all to go and check out <laugh>. Um, so where can people go to follow you and all all that fun stuff. And do we have an idea of when hair salon's gonna be coming?
Speaker 2 01:00:01 Um, hopefully April sometime. Okay. I would say April, but you know, who knows? Um, you can follow me at Mag Moroni. It's just, I think it's just macaroni on everything. Yeah. M me g m o r o Anyway. Do
Speaker 1 01:00:16 You prefer Meg or Megan?
Speaker 2 01:00:18 I prefer Megan, but someone stole the handle at Megan Maro. Oh
Speaker 1 01:00:21 No. So when
Speaker 2 01:00:22 I made my Instagram like in high school or so, that's what I had to do. So then people started calling me Meg. No one's ever called me Meg <laugh>, but now people do cuz they're, it's my Instagram. But yeah, I don't really have a preference cuz now I'm used to it. But yeah, it's Megan <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:00:36 All right, awesome. Well Megan, thank you for, thank you for joining us. You guys make sure to uh, follow Megan Moroni. Um, and be on the lookout. She's got a new single coming. She's got some badass songs out right now. But be sure don't just, um, don't just wait for it and pre-shave it but also pre-order this shit on iTunes because artists make more money off it that way. Get it up towards the top of that chart and uh, yeah, show some love to our girl Megan, me thanks for hanging really. I really appreciate it. Shout out to the sponsors as always. Guys. Whale Tail Media, Sackman Studios, our boy Mitch Wallace, the digital marketing agency. And then of course our friends in the Green World cuz we're California sober. Um, Trailside, C B D, that Tasty Legal Delta eight T h c gets you high. It's great. 20% off with the promo code i t r y'all. Go check it out. Remember to rate and subscribe, follow Meg and uh, all that good stuff. We will see you next time. This has been the In The Round podcast.
