Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is going on everybody? Welcome back to the In The Round podcast. I'm your host Matt Burrell. And as you can see, we are in a new studio. We are at the Trey Lewis DM Monday Podcast Studios here in Midtown Nashville, right in the heart of Music City, the heart of Music row. So shout out to tl, uh, for having us, let us, letting us use this studio. Um, and be sure to check out the new project that I'm collaborating with him and my good buddy Trey Bonner on DM Monday. It's a wild podcast, y'all. Be sure to check it out today. A great episode with a guy who's been very influential in the country music scene over the last 10, 15 years. A guy named David Nall. You've definitely heard his songs and you'll get to learn a lot about him on this episode.
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Speaker 2 00:02:19 Man. It's a lot of damn cameras.
Speaker 1 00:02:21 Yeah. So, yeah. So this is more than working cause aren't as
Speaker 2 00:02:24 Many cameras on the Today
Speaker 1 00:02:24 Show. This is the, this is, this is the most amount of cameras that I've ever liked. Cause I used to work in radio. I did country radio up in New Jersey, uh, for a couple of years before I moved here. Um, so I've never done like a podcast or radio show with this many cameras. So again, it's the, the Trey Lewis DM Monday set up where video tends to be a little bit more of a thing. So I like it. Bright lights. Yeah, man, it's cool. And we got like all like this redneck signage that came from like Huntsville, Alabama, some stuff that's overpriced. Like that Shoney sign was like, I think Trey's manager dropped like $600 on it. Trey wasn't too happy about that. I think he pulled the business card after that one, but <laugh> geez. But yeah. So how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 00:03:04 I'm doing great, man. It's a little nasty outside, but, uh, it's exciting, you know, just, um, the beginning of a year somewhat and just got back out on the road this the last couple of weekends. Oh yeah. And so, um, got a couple weekends off before we hit it hard in
Speaker 1 00:03:21 March. Yeah, I saw the schedule. You guys are going a lot of different places, right? You got, you pretty much, cause you've been doing this music thing for a minute now for
Speaker 2 00:03:28 Several, several minutes.
Speaker 1 00:03:29 Several minutes. Quite a few minutes. Uh, maybe even up towards, up towards 60 minutes, a whole hour of doing this. Couple decades. Yeah. Um, so you've gotten to go all around the country and now it looks like you're, you're still doing like the clubs, but also doing theaters and doing like different things. What's touring like for you in 2022 now? This many years into it?
Speaker 2 00:03:47 It's been really cool this year. You know, we started doing this kind of laid back, uh, stripped down vibe thing a couple of years ago. Well actually kind of started when we were doing a lot of radio promotion. You know, they would send us out with a couple players and, and, um, you know, before I think a lot of artists would go out, you know, if you played guitar, you would just kind of accompany yourself. Um, and then I feel like when I kind of started going out on the radio, uh, visits, it became popular, whether, I don't know why, but, um, um, label started sending out an extra player and then it became two players. Then it became a sound guy. And so I think we really kind of got dialed in and, um, and so people always asked that, you know, back then, you know, you should do an acoustic thing or something stripped down. And, um, you know, it's funny, you, you're doing all those radio visits back then, the last thing you, you know, you wanna do is another acoustic performance, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:04:41 Burdens you
Speaker 2 00:04:42 Out. Um, you're, you're ready to get on a bus and get, you know, full band and everything. And then you do that for 10 years and then you're like, God, me and I kind of, kind of missed those, like, laid back ones. So we've been doing that the, the last couple weekends. We did it a lot last year. Uh, and it's a lot of fun. You know, I'm, um, I liked, you know, this is gonna show my age, but two of my favorite shows growing up were VH one Storytellers and, and MTV Unplugged. And so I always kind of, it's kind of ridiculous to to think back on it now, but I, I used to like, when I couldn't sleep at night as a kid, I would like envision what it would be like to be on those shows. And I didn't even have any songs to talk about, but I would just make up answers.
Speaker 2 00:05:21 Yeah. And, um, and so now I don't have to make up answers. I can just kind of talk about these songs and talk about, um, you know, why I recorded 'em, why I wrote 'em, um, why I still sing 'em. And, you know, it's, it's, uh, there there are a lot of audiences where I kind of walk out there and I'm like, I don't know if they necessarily want to hear me talk tonight. But it's, it's, it's crazy how how many people dig, hearing the stories behind them and, and just kind of getting a look behind, you know, they, they obviously get, um, a big window into my, you know, rambunctious personality that just jumps off the walls.
Speaker 1 00:05:58 Yeah, man. And that's the thing about country music fans, they're deeper and also like rock fans, like you're talking about Unplugged. So with your, you, you got a few years on me, so I wasn't really alive for like the ni like the nineties. I was born 95, so I didn't get to experience like the golden age of MTV pH one.
Speaker 2 00:06:13 That was a good year, man. I was a sophomore in high school. No shit <laugh>, lot of good looking senior girls in that
Speaker 1 00:06:17 Class. Hey, there we go, man. I had some good looking senior senior year or senior girls when like 2011. That was my sophomore looking at the senior, uh, year. But the nineties, like you talk about like the, the VH1 unplug or vh1, um, behind the music and the, uh, MTV Unplugged. You talk about like nirvana and like bands like that, like rock bands. Did you grow up listening to some of that or were you more like nineties country or were you like off the wall like pop hip hop? A little bit of everything.
Speaker 2 00:06:42 You know, my father was a band director, so I grew up always listening to a little bit more, uh, I'd say mature music, a little older music than maybe my, um, demographic was listening to. But you know, a lot of that was out of, I, I just, that's what I was around and so I just assumed everybody else's parents put on that stuff. You know, Elton John Motown, um, classic rock. There wasn't a lot of country at all. I kind of discovered the country thing on my own. Um, like said
Speaker 1 00:07:12 In the nineties, who was, who was your first, who was your like, man damn, I like country music.
Speaker 2 00:07:16 I went to a talent show in my high school when I was in junior high. Um, my father was accompanying, uh, my father was a band director and he was helping out a couple of the, the younger acts and, um, I heard this kid sing anymore by Travis Trit and I was like, damn man, I like that song. And, you know, you couldn't just Shazam it back then, you know, you had to do some research and, um, I remember, you know, probably that day when I found out who it was going to Walmart and it was like my first cassette that I ever got of like a country act. And then, um, that just sort of, um, I mean that was a big huge record. It's all about the change, I think was the name of the record. It was a second Travis Strip's second record. Um, and he was a part of that whole class of 89. So that was right at the beginning of the nineties, boom. And so I got a, I kind of got that in my, those really important years. I kind of got to follow that as sort of the soundtrack of my youth.
Speaker 1 00:08:12 Yeah. Not a bad era to be growing up listening to country music. I mean, you think of the guys and girls that were coming out in that era, that's when like country, like had its had its explosion from being a small town thing to be in a place like where I grew up in New York, you know, like where it kind of all it turned into like a stadium kind of thing, which was
Speaker 2 00:08:29 Cool. Yeah. I think, you know, it's funny, I I I I just missed, um, the nineties boom. You know, I can remember when I first started, you know, I would hear record labels say, oh, we're, we're, um, we're spending Shana's money or we're spending the Dixie Chicks money, or these acts, you know, Garris money, you know, all these acts that brought in these cra had these crazy successful albums and they're, a lot of artists like myself got the benefit because there was obviously a excess amount of money to sign new acts and try to promote new acts. Um, and so I kind of got to see that on the, the ending, the ending of that time period. And, and then, you know, I think the early two thousands was a really tough time to be an artist. Um, you know, when I first started out my first record deal, it just seemed like, you know, everybody talks about how many artists there are now.
Speaker 2 00:09:22 It, it seemed like for back then, you know, um, you know, every, every label may have 20 or 30 acts, you know, and, and you know, the public may not know 15 or 20 of those, but they only know the Garth Brooks and the Brooks and Dunns and all those, but they'd have so many acts and developmental stages. Um, and I went out with four, I think, acts that had very limited success when I was 21 years old. And then it wasn't until really the 2000 tens when my career started to take off. So I, I kind of was, you know, I was going through some things personally during the early two thousands. So I, I don't know, I, I think it was a good thing that I wasn't out on the road and yeah. And, and working then and trying to kind of figure out what I, what I wanted to be.
Speaker 1 00:10:10 But what were those years like of you putting in the grind before seeing the radio success, before that first song going on radio, the label deal, all that stuff? Were you on Broadway? Were you just kind of writing like, what, what was going on in the world of David Nell? There was a place 2001 to 2010, there was a
Speaker 2 00:10:23 Place down the street called the 10 Roof Man. I was there about six days a week. And that, that was only because they weren't open on Sundays. Then <laugh>, um, I hung out there a lot. A lot of the workers became really good friends of mine even today. Um, and the thing that I loved about that is coming outta my first record deal, um, that all happened so fast and it all ended so fast. It really took me a good two to three years before I even realized what the hell had happened. Um, you know, I, I moved here within six months, I'd had a record deal. Um, I'd say eight to 10 months later I was making a record. And the next spring, you know, going out on the road, I mean, the first show I ever did really anywhere was, um, out in LA at this club.
Speaker 2 00:11:13 And I remember him saying, this is where Elton John just had his Grammy party. So it's like you get this small town kid from southeast Missouri Yeah. And suddenly he's out on the road. I mean, it was a recipe for disaster and it was in a lot of ways. But, um, you know, so I spent probably, you know, 23 through 25, 26, just kind of trying to get my wits about me again. And then, um, you know, I can remember, uh, during that time, you know, always kind of thinking about what was next and not necessarily musically like, Hey, if this doesn't work out or I don't get another opportunity, what is their, what is there that I can do? And I can remember I was living just across the interstate here in the Gulch and um, I got this brave idea that I was gonna go to umpiring school and be a baseball umpire.
Speaker 1 00:12:05 You were, you're a pretty big dude. You would've been a hell of an umpire.
Speaker 2 00:12:08 And my father was a huge sports fan. Three 30 in the morning, hey, perfect. Not a soul sight. Perfect. The thunder rose. Yeah. Uh, but, uh, my father was a huge sports fan, so I thought, man, I'm gonna bring my parents here and, and unveil this new plan and they're gonna think it's just like this magnificent idea. And I remember presenting it in this way that I felt like was very, you know, thorough. And I can remember my dad just looking at me and go, no, you're not. And I was like, huh. And he was like, you're gonna sing. That's what you're supposed to be doing. And so, um, that went out the window and, and then, um, I met, um, a guy named Jason Shear, who I had known for several years, but had, had started a tin roof down here on Damian Street.
Speaker 2 00:12:59 And he had heard an old demo that I had done and he called me one night and he just said, Hey, I don't know what you got going on. I don't know what the deal is. He said, but you're gonna play on Monday nights. And I was like, huh. Like no one's ever told me what to do or wear this thing. Like, it just kind of rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. But at the same time I was, I'd also never had anybody that came up to me and said, man, I dig what you do so much. Yeah. I want you to play. So I had never really done the Broadway thing, had never really played clubs. So 26, 27 were really my years. I played two different stints there on Mondays. One with his wife and then one with a guy named Ward Gunther who started Rescue
Speaker 1 00:13:40 Jam. Yeah. We're, we're repping the shirt. That's one of my heroes in Nashville. Yeah. For what I do. Like I was gonna ask you about your relationship with him. We
Speaker 2 00:13:47 Started, we started singing on Monday nights and then, um, I got a record deal and another record deal and, and started to go back out on the road to promote that. And the only guy I really knew that played music was Ward. So I took Ward out on the road with me and we literally went from one corner to the other corner and everywhere in between, uh, playing a lot of the songs on my first record and, um, trying to get the ball rolling. And then, um, not too terribly long after that board started, whiskey Jam Ward had bigger things on his horizon and playing acoustic guitar for me <laugh>. But it was so much fun because man, to have ward there to hang out with, you know, like, like I hate to keep saying like small town kid going all these places, but you know, so many times you get to go do things and see things and play places and you just wish you had one of your buddies from back home to like be there with you
Speaker 1 00:14:40 Instead of just the radio rep suit. Like, something like that. Somebody that gets it, that's another small town kid.
Speaker 2 00:14:45 And, and so, you know, it was great cuz we would get in the car every night after dinner. I mean, we would eat these amazing restaurants and hang out at these, you know, stay at awesome hotels. And it was just fun cuz we would just kind of, it got to the point where we would just look at each other. We knew what the other person was thinking, like how, what in the world are we doing? You know? This is crazy. Yeah. Um, so it, you know, I released one single About to Come Alive that didn't really do anything and then the next song went back in to record some more stuff for that first record and, and Red Light was a result of that.
Speaker 1 00:15:21 Yeah. Which is that one, is that one that, uh, Singleton is a part of. He is, that's another guy that I've got in my few years being in town where it's like you learn of these, these guys and girls that have been in town for a while and are like very involved and like what I do, like, I, I'm not a songwriter, I'm not an artist, I'm not a musician. I, I'm a crew member go out on the road and then I do this podcast host the Writers Round. So you meet guys like Ward and you meet guys like Jonathan Singleton and that's a song I remember listening to when it came out. I was in I think late high school, early college. I remember listening to The Red Light. So that's, that's freaking cool that then how did that change things for you that, that turn you turn you out into the road a bit more?
Speaker 2 00:15:59 Well, I'll tell you what's an awesome story is, so right before Red Light he had written watching airplanes with Gary Allen. Yeah. And watching airplanes was on hold for me for about two weeks.
Speaker 1 00:16:11 Oh no shit.
Speaker 2 00:16:12 And Gary just kind of came outta nowhere <laugh> and suddenly it wasn't on hold anymore. And, um, you know, you get played so many songs and, and it gets to a point where like you've heard so many that an average song suddenly becomes a good song cuz you're just wanting to hear something you Yeah. Quasi like, and I remember hearing him watching airplanes and of course Jonathan singing the demo demo and it was just so different and unique. Um, and he started, he started getting a lot of buzz in town, um, you know, like, Hey, this guy's so good, we need to sign him to a deal. Which he did have a deal initially, um, an artist deal. And so when Red Light came to me, I was a little burnt because watching airplanes I saw that have this huge immediate success. Yeah. And I felt like I was getting the, the seconds, you know, like Red Light was the sorry seconds. Even though I loved the song, I had this like animosity in some ways towards it because
Speaker 1 00:17:15 That's, that's understandable because
Speaker 2 00:17:16 I felt like, oh well they're just throwing me this bone because I kind of got snaked out of watching airplanes. Um, and, but you know, Brian Wright, who's the head of a and r at Universal, we were at the Corner Pub Midtown, which is not there anymore. And I thought I was getting dropped and he played me that demo and I wanted so badly to hate it. And by the second chorus I knew I'm going back in the studio <laugh> whether I like it or not. And, um, and we recorded that. And then, you know, I've never had a song that that just flew up the chart. I mean even whatever she's got, which was a huge hit for me, um, it took its own sweet time. Um, but Red Light, you know, there were a lot of Mondays where we didn't know if we were gonna live to see another Monday, but it was once it got to, I'd say the top 15, it was cooking pretty good and we knew that we had a hit and I knew that things, you know, that was one of those songs I always say, you know, you, you know, the the audience, you know, even if they don't know the words, they're out there kind of just mouthing something that's not even remotely the words <laugh> and it kind of throws you off as a singer.
Speaker 2 00:18:27 Cause you're like, what in the hell are they saying? Um, but uh, I remember, you know, they, they, that means it's in their head and they're, and they're trying to
Speaker 1 00:18:36 Sing it to you that recognizable melody man.
Speaker 2 00:18:38 And so, um, yeah, Jonathan was a, has been a huge, huge part of my career. I mean that, um, having that song and having that success then Par parlayed that into starting to write with him and, and uh, the first song we ever wrote together was Let It Rain. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:54 <laugh>, no, they're just a Hammer bro.
Speaker 2 00:18:56 I text him the day before and I said, man, I know you're such a great guitar player. I said, I just want you to come in with some sort of really unique guitar lick. And he literally came in with that. Yeah. And it was such a John Mayer thing. Um,
Speaker 1 00:19:13 And at that time
Speaker 2 00:19:14 I always call him, he's like the country John Mayer.
Speaker 1 00:19:15 Yeah. And that's in the John Mayer era too. So that's again that recognizable kind of thing, which is, which is cool. Which that era too, that early 2010. So that happens what, 20 10, 20 11, somewhere in
Speaker 2 00:19:27 There? I don't know the exact years cuz man we were just
Speaker 1 00:19:30 All place together, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 00:19:31 Yeah. When you, when when from the moment Red light hit, I mean we were, I was on the road and one way sheriff foreman, whether it was still promoting, you know, the singles or we were playing shows like, you know, I had just gotten married and, and um, you know, my, my wife always, it's funny hearing her talk about how much I was gone. You know, it's like I know I was gone a lot, but then when somebody else says yeah, he really was like gone all the time, you kind of start having a little mental anguish like, dang man, I really was gone all the time. Yeah. Poor girl moved her here and then she had to just stay out here by herself, you know, all the
Speaker 1 00:20:07 Time. Yeah. When did, when did the, uh, when did the kids come along?
Speaker 2 00:20:11 2015. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:20:12 So there were a few years, cause I was gonna say that makes it extra hard. Lot of practice, lot, a lot of, lot of practice. Yeah. Get got your reps in lot
Speaker 2 00:20:18 Lot. Yeah. A lot of time to figure out things weren't working right. So we had to, we had to bring in some auxiliary weapons. I gotcha. Weapons
Speaker 1 00:20:26 <laugh>. I gotcha. Um, so I was listening to your, um, the project you put out last year. It was the, the boot heel 2021 ep. And it's cool the way you have that, the way it starts out and the way it ends. Are those, those your kids that are on those?
Speaker 2 00:20:37 Yeah, those are my twins. They're, um, six years old. Lawson and Billy Kate. And um, you know, it all started with the, the 2020 ep. Um, I knew I wanted to have him in some way, shape, or form involved, but I didn't really know exactly how that should happen. And so, um, my son's a very deep thinker. He asked really, really serious,
Speaker 1 00:21:04 What's the wildest question asked you as a little kid. Cuz if he's five, six
Speaker 2 00:21:08 Man, he's very, um, aware of heaven and wow. He'll talk about, you know, hey, when you go to heaven or when I go to heaven or when we all, you know, that's a song when we all get to heaven. Um, but uh, so, you know, a lot of times I'll go get a soda in the morning. A lot of times he'll go with me and, and usually in that five to 10 minutes I get some cannonball thrown on me and it's, you know, sometimes I have to tell him like, look man, I don't, I don't wanna talk about that right now. <laugh>, let's talk about Matchbox cards or something. A
Speaker 1 00:21:41 Baseball or something else. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:21:42 But he, uh, he's just a deep thinker. And so, um, we, um, we were talking one day, it was just me and him and the girls were all gone. And, um, we had just moved into our new house down at Thompson Station and, and we were talking and it just kind of got to like that deep land. And so I just pulled up my phone and I started recording, you know, him asking me questions, me asking him questions. And um, it was like, holy cow man, this is what it's gotta be. You know? It was totally unprompted and uh, off the cuff and um, it was, it was just, uh, real special. And so then, then that, then when it came time to do 2021, my wife was really, you know, sticking me like, Hey, you gotta bring Lily Caden into the fold. Which is tough cuz she's the ham of the family, but you never know what the hell's about to come out of her mouth <laugh>. And she doesn't know anything like about scripting. Yeah. Or like, hey, say this. Which is funny because in one of the things she does say, she just dies laughing at the end of it because, but that's her, you know, that's her. So she can't be serious. Like, even though it's a very serious song coming up, like she, it's in not in her DNA to be like real serious, like setting the tone.
Speaker 1 00:23:03 Yeah. That's that's awesome man. What's, what's being a dad been like? Cause I know that's a transition. You moved to town young and now it's like you've been here so long, you've done the done, the done, the just got married thing now then you've had the, just, just had a kid thing. Now you've got, now you've been a dad for quite a few years now while living in town, still doing the music thing. How's that transition
Speaker 2 00:23:22 Been? Yeah, I mean it's tough. It's tough, you know, it's, it's tough. I mean it's tough being a parent in general. Um, but anytime that you, you leave home and you have to kind of explain it to 'em and they don't necessarily understand what in the world is going on. Um, and then, you know, COVID happened and suddenly you're home for more or less a year. And that year was a real big transition year for them because they, they don't remember a whole lot from two and three. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:55 But four and five, there was a lot of serious stuff going on in the world. You know, suddenly we gotta wear masks everywhere. Suddenly we're talking about people being sick all the time. We, you know, that, that was when Covid got really serious for me because my kids would just always ask like, we can or can't do something because of the sickness. And every, every conversation started with that, you know? Yeah. Whether it was like, clean your room, well I have to clean my room cause of the sickness, like everything, it just consumed our family. And so, um, they don't really remember me being gone like crazy.
Speaker 1 00:24:29 Um, so now that you're getting back out on tour different,
Speaker 2 00:24:31 So now that I'm getting back out and it's like we, we talk have to talk about how many sleeps, how many sleeps is daddy gonna be gone? That's how we measured time in our house. Um, is it, you know, one or two sleeps not a big deal, you know, three or four sleeps now, ironically, my, my daughter has the bigger issue with it. And then my son, I think he enjoys it cuz I tell him he's gotta be the man of the house. So he gets to lock all the doors at night,
Speaker 1 00:24:55 Has his responsibility that he likes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:24:57 He gets to lock all the doors at night. And then ironically the other day you asked me, asked me and my wife about a gun. I'm like, we ain't gonna have no gun
Speaker 1 00:25:05 <laugh>. Yeah. No need.
Speaker 2 00:25:06 I'm like, where in the world did that come from? You know, they're in kindergarten now. Like, I got everybody else's parents I need to be raising their kids Right. That my kids are going to school with because they're picking up some things that I was kind of hoping to handle down the line a little bit, you know?
Speaker 1 00:25:21 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, another thing I wanted to ask you. So again, those years of like 2010 to like 2013 Nashville kind of went boom around that point. And the country music scene kind of changed a little bit. You have the B word, you have bro country getting thrown in there. You have different acts kind of rising up that are, that are still like big heritage acts today. And then like there was just that transition where Nashville became like one of the places for young people to move outside of music. Like the, just all the, I think that's when all the cranes started coming in. Crane City. Yeah. Crane City. Over a hundred people a day moving here. Like it, it turned from a, a city about music to a a party town with some music in it. So what was it like kind of being one of the OGs in town at that point and also seeing the country music scene change from the different crossovers that were going on around that time?
Speaker 2 00:26:10 Well, I know one thing like, you know, I can remember when the tin roofs started, um, and Jason will even talk about this. The guy that started, he people thought he was an idiot for starting a business down there. I mean, it was nothing but old abandoned souvenir shops. You know, I don't even know if the Shoney's was still working across the street or in service. Um, there was just a huge parking lot across the street where your car would sometimes get left at night, you know, um, if you couldn't drive or didn't want to. Yeah. And you were being mature. Um, but, uh, you know, it was, it was crazy because I really, I hate to keep talking about the tin roof, but I really feel like that's a great example of the growth of not only like my generation of country music, but the growth of the city.
Speaker 2 00:27:04 I mean, I can remember going there, you know, and you had your nights, you had the night when Vandy would be there, you had your nights when, so, you know, the Belmont kids would be there and there would be like young professionals. And then the weekends were kind of like this big, you know, collage of people. Um, and then it just, it was like you woke up like five or six years later and all of a sudden it was every night just this melting pot of people and suddenly there were about six or seven people in between you and the next person you recognized. And it wasn't somebody that was coming to be a singer. It wasn't somebody coming to be a performer in the music business. And, and, um, but you know, I lived in an apartment over here called Laurel House and The Gulch and we were the, it was four stories and we were the only high rise in the Gulch. And, um, there
Speaker 1 00:27:54 Was only one highrise in the Gulch at that point.
Speaker 2 00:27:56 Yeah. Wow. And, and then, um, and then I can remember when they built the icon and then that slowed down and there were a lot of people wondering if that was ever gonna get finished. Cause that was around like 2008 when the economy kind of went to the tank. Um, but I can remember my wife and I moved out to Franklin our first house after we got married. And I was still having to come into town a lot. And it seemed like every week I came in there was something new being bought. There was something new being built and suddenly, you know, Damian Street was all healthy establishments. It wasn't that one place coming in for two months and closing. Um, there was just so much traffic in and around the tin roof that a lot of these other places got to have great nights because they couldn't all fit down there.
Speaker 2 00:28:45 So they had to go somewhere. Um, and then, you know, I, I don't know when it all the, the crazy boom started as far as like, um, you know, we moved back to Nashville and we used to go out to dinner, you know, even when we had the kids were small, um, we would go out to dinner once a week and it just seemed like we would be in an Uber and we would drive by a building that wasn't there the week before. Yeah. And um, you know, I think that it's funny how that kind of coincides with a lot of these newer, younger acts. You know, I'll, I'll throw Kane Brown out there for an example. You know, he's somebody that kind of moves the town. Um, like country music gets kind of big maybe like when I was talking about like the, the class 89, you know, maybe it's the Luke Bryans and the Jason Aldes of the World and King Brown sees that and it's like, oh, here's this option.
Speaker 2 00:29:46 I wanna be a singer. I'm gonna be a singer and I'm gonna put all these videos on YouTube and I'm gonna get this following and I'm gonna move to Nashville. And it just so happens now there's this place called Whiskey Jam. Yeah. Where you can go and network and meet all these people that are in the music business or wanna be in the music business. And I don't know how many times I've heard of somebody being hired, signed, found, uh, maybe they didn't even perform there, but they networked, they met somebody, they got their CD to somebody. And so I think that it's funny you had like the tin roof during those early two thousands, early 2000 tens. And then really, you know, the mid 2000 tens is when Whiskey game started and it went from hey, this like, you know, music business type hang to then the absolute place you had to be on a Monday night
Speaker 1 00:30:42 Selling out what you were a part of that, the 10 year anniversary at the Ryman selling, selling that out. I've been putting a lineup out. Only thing to ever only event to ever have that happen at the Ryman to get to that point to where it's at. Now, what were those early days like? Cause I had to imagine your connection with Ward and being a Tin Roof guy. You were on some of those early lineups.
Speaker 2 00:31:00 I remember I played the first ever one really. I remember thinking, man, this is a cool idea. And telling Ward, like if this, if you get six months outta this, you should consider that a win. Like, because you're talking about a time period where there was just so many things to do, so many places to be, you know, every week there was a new bar every week there was a new restaurant happening. There was just so many people. And you know, Nashville and the music business has a tendency to want to get jaded and bitter after a while.
Speaker 1 00:31:35 Absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:31:35 Yeah. And so I just felt like it wouldn't be a, a reflection of Ward or the product, it would just be somebody, something else would happen and people would, it, it would, there would pull enough people away, enough regulars, um, that eventually it would fizzle out. And I think that's obviously a testament to Ward and his perseverance of not letting it, not letting that be an option
Speaker 1 00:32:03 And, and adapting and just finding new ways to grow it. Doing the outdoor stuff during Covid, I mean, biggest one of the, the biggest weekly live event in Nashville, they found a way to continue by doing those Instagram lives. That risky jam thing. Yeah. Like you just found ways to adapt and survive and grow it.
Speaker 2 00:32:19 And you know, it's, I think that's one of the things that I admire so much about Ward is first of all, he's one of those people that do anything in the world for you. Yeah. Um, but this guy, you know, he moved here and he wanted to be a singer and he tried out for Nashville Star and he tried out for the Voice and, and you know, it, he, he had to make a decision like, do I want to go keep going down this road and beat my head against the wall, so to speak? Or do I, you know, figure out another niche? And boy did he ever, you know, I mean he, uh, if you think about, I used to love, I'm, I'm sure he still does, but I, I used to love when he would post those, you know, um, right around award shows and he would post everybody that got nominated for award.
Speaker 1 00:33:05 Yeah. I think he just did one for the ACMs. It was like over and it's numbers are crazy.
Speaker 2 00:33:09 It's literally like everybody Yeah. You know, everybody except for like, you know, the people who were obviously extremely successful before that started. But uh, yeah, that's really cool to have a connection with somebody who, you know, like walking in seeing your shirt. Yeah. Man. You know, seeing all the shirts and um, I can remember having some hockey player friends that came in here want from, came in to play The Predators and they were asking like what to do. And before I could even say it, they were like, the Uber driver told us there's this whiskey jam thing, it happens on Monday nights. And I'm like, when you got Uber drivers and cab drivers that are telling you where to go on a Monday night, that's when you know your big time. You know?
Speaker 1 00:33:50 Yeah, absolutely. Who are some folks that you remember seeing, um, at Whiskey Jam? Like before they were big? Because I'd imagine those early days you were hanging out there too. Like you were part of the culture at that point. Right.
Speaker 2 00:34:01 One of the cool people, I didn't see 'em perform, but I remember one of the cool nights I had, it was just a night I was there hanging out and I ran into Thomas Rhett and
Speaker 1 00:34:11 Baby Thomas ret. I
Speaker 2 00:34:12 Was, yeah, I was, uh, he was baby baby Thomas Rhett. And I remember, um, his dad was a huge influence on my career. I went to three or four red akin shows when I was, you know, late high school, early college. And I actually, um, went to a show at a place called The Midnight Rodeo that I've played since. And, um, there's a lot of stories there between me and Rhett. But yeah. Um, the, the connection of now here's his kid and I think he was just then starting to get a deal. We're about to get a deal and I can just remember that look on his face and just like how like wide-eyed and man, like everything's going on is crazy. And you know what, in the world's going on, this is all happening super fast. And um, so it was just kind of a full sor circle moment for me of, you know, here I am bridging the gap between Father and, and I'm the one in between whose career kind of happened in between.
Speaker 2 00:35:18 Yeah. And now here's the, here's the son who's getting ready to take the world by storm. So I always remember that night, I mean, there's several people, you know, I, I can, I can remember in the last couple years going one night, um, and seeing Mitchell, Tim Penny and Jimmy Allen in the corner talking, and it was funny. They were, you know, they were figuring the music business out, you know, together. I could overhear their, their conversation and they were figuring it all out, you know? Yeah. Um, they had answers to everything and, and I was, I just laughed and I remember telling a buddy of mine named EJ Burners, I said, you know, that was us 10 years ago, you know, saying everything that was wrong and saying everything we should do, we were gonna do, we're gonna change the world, we're gonna do all this, we're gonna tour together, do all this. And um, so that's when you know you're old, you know, <laugh>, thank God Chris Young still goes, so I don't feel like entirely too old.
Speaker 1 00:36:12 Yeah. He's always out there. You always, always running to, always running them. So tour life for you, uh, what were some of those early days touring? What were some tours that you got to go out on as an opener? Some of those first headlining dates? Like what was that experience like for you getting into the club scene?
Speaker 2 00:36:26 The first tour I ever did was we were the, a direct support for Lady Antebellum's first headlining tour,
Speaker 1 00:36:33 Another early whiskey jam act as well.
Speaker 2 00:36:37 Um, so that was really neat because that was right after Need You Now Exploded. Oh wow. So it was, you know, I can remember, you know, obviously you book a tour six, seven months out, but I can remember going out there and thinking, man, we should be in Arenas, man. Like these, they were just so big by that point. Like yeah, they're, you know, we're playing these big huge theaters, um, a lot of the Fox theaters and stuff, and these people were just bursting at the seams and the, and the excitement was so big. And um, I can remember that was the first act that I'd ever been around that had their own security. And we would go out for a beer afterwards and I mean, obviously Charles is like six nine, so Yeah. You can't, you couldn't escape, you know, you couldn't hide anywhere. And, and it just, everybody like wanting to talk to him, wanting to get near him. And um, that was my first kind of introduction to Holy Cow man, like this is the big time right here. And then I've, you know, I've been out on a few, I've been on a couple of different, uh, tours with Little Big Town, a couple of different with Darius Rucker.
Speaker 1 00:37:47 What's d what's Darius like?
Speaker 2 00:37:49 Exactly like you
Speaker 1 00:37:50 I was gonna say, I've heard, I've heard nothing but good things. Like he's just, that that
Speaker 2 00:37:53 Guy, Darius is one of those guys that like, you just, um, he's gonna rag everybody. Yeah. And you know, I I would almost be worried if he wasn't give me a hard time. Yeah. Um, but he's, he's great. You know, I just rode on a plane back with his band from, they were doing some Super Bowl stuff when we were out in LA and we were just kind of telling old stories just about different venues we played. And um, the one thing about Darius is his crew, they treat everybody from the very bottom to the, you know, the people on their own crew, um, as good as possible. And his security was always like super nice and hospitable and, and never just made you feel like, Hey, you're just a lousy opener. I mean, a lot of times you play with big acts, you know, not necessarily on tours cuz you usually have a relationship with those people, but you open up for acts and you know, you may not get a sound check, you may not get a line check. It may be like, Hey, throw and go at six o'clock when the door's open. <laugh>. Which is always,
Speaker 1 00:38:58 You know, good luck guys. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:38:59 Yeah, thanks, have fun. Um, yeah, which is always stressful. But I remember Darius's guys were always very conscious of, Hey man, it's, you know, 35 minutes till show. We might need to let David have a sound check. And um, obviously we always appreciated that. But it, he was fun, man. I mean, um, the last tour I did with him, he, I'm a big shoe guy. Used to be, I've kind of grown out of the face a little bit,
Speaker 1 00:39:25 Sneak, sneak sneaker head.
Speaker 2 00:39:26 But Darius the first tour he gave me like a case of Silver Oak
Speaker 1 00:39:32 Oh
Speaker 2 00:39:33 Wow. Wine and it was all oh nine s, which was like a serious year.
Speaker 1 00:39:38 Oh, it's talking about wine, not shoe. I thought you were saying shoes.
Speaker 2 00:39:40 And then the second year he gave me like 10 pairs of Jordans.
Speaker 1 00:39:44 Oh shit. Okay. So how big do you still have your shoe collection? Like
Speaker 2 00:39:48 I had him sign a couple, I still have those. Um, and you know, they were all different. I mean I probably still have all of 'em. That's, that's what's sad. Like I have so many, I lose track. It's
Speaker 1 00:39:59 Not sad. I mean some, I mean I have buddies that are like really in the shoes, but they,
Speaker 2 00:40:02 Ward is a,
Speaker 1 00:40:02 Ward's a huge, I've noticed his sneaker games always like top notch. I didn't know he was like a collector.
Speaker 2 00:40:08 I'm gonna tell a story about Ward, you know, ward, when he still worked at the Tin Roof, um, there were rumors that that uh, ward got all of his shoes sent to Tin Roof instead of his house. And then he had 'em hid up in the rafters of the roof and he would just phase 'em in, in to the house and to wearing them. So his wife didn't necessarily know how many shoes he was buying or how many shoes he had. And, uh, man's a genius. I don't know if
Speaker 1 00:40:38 That's, that's, that's a genius thing right
Speaker 2 00:40:39 There. I don't know if that's a hundred percent true, but I heard it from some serious people and I always thought, man, that is genius. And um, I even thought about doing that occasion because the UPS guy showed up at our house so much that he would just make jokes and shake his head and be like, you got a problem. Which I did
Speaker 1 00:41:00 <laugh>. That's funny. Um, for you, what are some of your favorite markets that you've gotten the tour in? Like what's, what are some shows that really stand out? Like do you like going to the southeast, you being a Midwest guys, Missouri special place for you
Speaker 2 00:41:11 Northeast? Yeah, Missouri's always good. You know, I feel like over, you know, when we were really, you know, thumping at hard, you know, the northeast and the, and the northwest was really hot for us. Um, you know, those are two areas of the country that I love personally. Um, I always say, you know, the Northeast, especially the New England area, they, they bought my first house because it just seemed like we were going up there twice a year. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:41:38 Um, we love our country music up there as a New York guy, like New Jersey. I'm sure you've been to like the like, um, you've been to um, Saville, like Starland Ballroom and like, and like Irving Plaza in New York City or like Asbury Park, like the Stone Pony and like areas over there. Like we love our country music up there and we don't get it as much as the Midwest and the Southeast do.
Speaker 2 00:41:57 New York is a entirely different animal, you know, I mean like that, that's one of those places that you just get so asinine nervous and amped up for cuz it's just this whole new animal. Yeah. And um, I can remember, um, I don't know if it was Irving Plaza or maybe one of the smaller rooms, but I can remember we, we had just started doing these v i p meet and greets. These people would come and just hearing those New York accents asking bro asking
Speaker 1 00:42:31 Questions. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:42:32 Oh yeah. And <laugh> and they're just no filter, just blunt as could be. And I can remember, um, we'd had a really long one and I treated those more as like a q and a and less about, Hey, let me play you a bunch of songs you're gonna hear later. That's,
Speaker 1 00:42:47 That's the easiest way to do it. And they get more out of it that way I feel by having that interaction with you.
Speaker 2 00:42:52 Yeah. But you, you would have people occasionally who would get mad as hell when you didn't play more songs. And um, I can remember um, at one of those when this, this lady just out of nowhere, like, I don't even know what I said to make her realize that I wasn't gonna sing again, but she realized it and just mid-sentence interrupting me and was like, this is bullshit. And I was like, huh. And she was like, you're only gonna sing one song. And I'm like, that hadn't have been established yet, but yes. And she just huffed and puffed the rest of the time and everybody else was just like, what the heck man? And then this is the worst, the rest of the, you know, the meet and greet line comes through and instead of everybody like being able to talk about themselves or there was that whole like, man, I can't believe that lady, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 00:43:47 Don't let her like represent New York for us, you know? Yeah. But um, yeah, I can still see her face. By the way, if I saw her today I would recognize her really? Because it was that like, first of all, no one had ever said that to me, bullshit in a setting that, but like the fact that whatever I was talking about must have been telegraphed so much that I was wrapping it up because she just interrupted me and you know, more or less cussed me out in front of all these people. And it was a big one too. I mean there's probably 40 or 50 people there.
Speaker 1 00:44:20 Yeah. Those v i p meet and greets are always, always cool. That's something that people haven't been able to do as much of with all the post covid kind of stuff. Yeah. And touring and everything. I'm just happy we get to go out and tour at this point, you know, like that's, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:44:32 I think it's getting better man. I think we're turning the corner. Hopefully.
Speaker 1 00:44:35 I, I too. I do too, man. Um, knock. So what? Knock wood. So what do we, yeah, exactly. Um, so you've been in Nashville for a while. What are some hidden gems here in Nashville? Food spots, hangout spots, secrets that you're willing to share?
Speaker 2 00:44:46 Oh man. My favorite, I don't know how hidden these are my favorite restaurant town's. A Dell's. Okay. Yeah. Which is just around the corner. Um, I just love the, I mean the food's great, but I just love the vibe in there. Not pretentious, you know, you kind of go in there and trust casually. You don't have to worry about, you know, somebody up, up staging you around the corner. Um, you know, I, I mean, geez, I don't know where's your
Speaker 1 00:45:12 Favorite me? Like are you a Mexican food guy? We got,
Speaker 2 00:45:13 There's a place down where I live called Tito's.
Speaker 1 00:45:16 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:45:16 Yeah. That's special.
Speaker 1 00:45:17 Yeah. I've been to the one, there's the one in Spring Hill that I've been to. Yeah. And I've been to
Speaker 2 00:45:21 Ts Yeah. They're real close together. Yep. They're like an exit park. Yeah. Um, and the original is a place in frankly called Pueblo Real. And it is unbelievable man. I, uh, my parents are the pickiest eaters in the world, which is random cuz they lived in like a small town <laugh>. So you can't, you have to be picky I guess cuz there's no options. Um, but I remember taking them and I just said, dad, I want you to take, eat this taco and I want you to just let the ground beef marinate in your mouth cuz it is so flavorful. Yeah. And he's just looking at me like, dude, why are you so excited about this ground beef? But it was so damn good that I was like, I had to preface him eating this taco. So I made sure he was focused on make sure his palette was lined up and ready to go. Yeah. So he could appreciate it. It's
Speaker 1 00:46:14 Important man. Yeah, for
Speaker 2 00:46:15 Sure. Yeah. But yeah, that, that place is good. There's a restaurant down our way called, um, uh, shoot. It just escaped me. Um, well there's a restaurant down our way. It's the only, it's the only like upscale restaurant in Thompson Station. Um, so all you have to do is Google that. You can find that real easy. Yeah. Um, I love first watch breakfasts. I know that's a chain. Yeah. But
Speaker 1 00:46:41 They're solid man. They're good.
Speaker 2 00:46:43 Uh, I obviously a pancake pantry,
Speaker 1 00:46:45 I still haven't been there. I've heard. I I haven't like found the right time. It's pretty
Speaker 2 00:46:49 Life. Especially when you hadn't gone in a while. I mean they definitely put something in there to bring you back
Speaker 1 00:46:55 Something, some additive in there.
Speaker 2 00:46:57 There's probably, yeah. It's something that's probably not very good for you, that's
Speaker 1 00:47:01 For sure. Yeah, no, that, that's why it tastes so good. Um, what's something you would tell, um, you would tell your younger self 20 something years ago just moving here?
Speaker 2 00:47:11 Well, you know, I had an unhealthy obsession with doing everything young. I felt like, man, I gotta get a record deal at 20. I gotta have first single out at 21. I gotta have an album out. Like I gotta, and no, nobody really like put that on me or taught me that or made that a big deal. But man, I had an obsession with it so much so that, you know, like in my mid twenties I was ready to pack it in cuz I thought like my ship had sailed. Um, and in reality, you know, like I dropped outta college for that main reason. I felt like, man, I need, those years were important for my career. I needed to be outta college. Um, I always tell people before I had my first hit, man, hell, I could have been a doctor if I was smart enough. I mean, as for as long as it took me to have a song that did anything. Um, and you know, and nowadays you see a lot of these artists there, you know, 32, 33 before they ever have a record deal. And,
Speaker 1 00:48:08 And that's what Brooks and done, that's what Brooks and Done Met. I think they were, I think Ronnie and Ks were 34 or 35 when they got put together. Like for some people it just takes a little while
Speaker 2 00:48:17 When you look at Walker Hayes, like, he's just now having success and he's my age. So Yeah. Um, you know, I think that that was something that was extremely unhealthy and that's, that's something that I would tell people is, hey, don't get so fixated on how old you are. Even if there's, even if your buddy down the street is the same age and he's got a couple of
Speaker 1 00:48:37 Heads, I get your blinders on is so important. You
Speaker 2 00:48:39 Just kind of gotta worry about yourself and do you, because at the end of the day, like music's music and I don't think anybody's, I've never met anybody that was like, man, I'd like that song if that dude was 34
Speaker 1 00:48:51 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:48:52 You know? Yeah. I mean, and if, and truth be told, if they did say that they probably wouldn't like it if they were 24 either. Yeah. You know, they just don't like the song. Um, but that's, uh, you know, that's, that's been the one thing that's so, I think so enjoyable about the Walker Hayes thing is he's like so straight dad.
Speaker 1 00:49:11 Yeah, it's funny, he was actually my first, when I was doing college radio, he was my first radio interview. He came up, played in front of like 20 people at my college bar. He had just gotten dropped from his first deal, like after all that pan pants I think was the song had back then was pre sobriety. So to see him doing that now all these years later is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 00:49:30 Yeah. I mean just, you know, gray Beard, not worried about, you know, things
Speaker 1 00:49:34 Doing his thing, being the, being the father to however many kids. I think he's got like, what, seven or eight kids, something crazy like that.
Speaker 2 00:49:40 Evident. I mean, he's got, needs a TV show cause there's a lot of actors in those videos.
Speaker 1 00:49:44 Yes. There are <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:49:45 A lot of different variables going on.
Speaker 1 00:49:47 Yeah, for sure. So what do we got going on the rest of 2022? We know we got some tour dates going.
Speaker 2 00:49:52 Yeah, I've been, uh, this is totally random, but I bought a guitar the other day when I, whenever I get into like creative ruts, I always like to go to guitar shops and just look at different guitar and I'm not a guitar player, but, um, I mean, I play it occasionally Yeah. To write and stuff. But, um, I always look at 'em and just say, I just play hundreds of 'em and they just, this sounds so cheesy and weird, but they just speak to me, you know, like, yeah. And every once in a while you'll find one and I'll take it to my guitar player and have 'em test it out and I'm like, Hey, do you think there's any songs in there? Like, and uh, I just bought one the other day and I've been grinding.
Speaker 1 00:50:32 Let's
Speaker 2 00:50:32 Go. I've been grinding on
Speaker 1 00:50:33 Let's Go. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:50:34 So, uh, had a little head, made a little headway yesterday. Um, but you know, I think, um, I usually have a sense of when things are about to happen, you know, as far as just like whether it's new music or, you know, good things on the horizon. And nothing ever really tells me that or why, but I just, um, I'm entirely too positive in the morning with three kids running around <laugh> to uh, feel like that that doesn't have some a, a plan that that's not playing a role, just that positive energy. Um, so I'm excited to see what the rest of the year has in store.
Speaker 1 00:51:14 Hell yeah. That's awesome man. Well dude, I appreciate you coming on and hanging out with us on a, uh, on a Thursday morning. Uh, rainy. Absolutely rainy. Good old Stormy Nashville, uh, Thursday morning, man. So really appreciate it. Uh, where do people go to find you? It's what David Nell music on everything.
Speaker 2 00:51:30 Yeah. Unfortunately there wasn't a lot of, or fortunately there wasn't a lot of people breaking down the doors to try to get David nell.com and <laugh> David Nell at Twitter. Do Instagram, do
Speaker 1 00:51:40 You do, do you TikTok, do you go on there
Speaker 2 00:51:43 All the time? Yeah, all the
Speaker 1 00:51:45 Time. All the time. That's like, oh, <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:51:48 There's some people in this room that are trying to, you know, tie my hands behind my back and make me <laugh>. I
Speaker 1 00:51:54 Mean it's, it's important. I don't quite understand it either, but it does, it has, its like role of like reaching out to people,
Speaker 2 00:52:02 You know? Man, there's not too many things that I do in 29 seconds. If you catch my draft <laugh>, there's a couple.
Speaker 1 00:52:12 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:52:13 But same creative, creative in 29 Seconds in Me. We don't necessarily hang in the same circle.
Speaker 1 00:52:20 The reason the writing sessions take they're books for a couple hours.
Speaker 2 00:52:24 Yeah. There's a reason why yesterday I started about eight in the morning and went to about nine at night. Cuz Yeah, I was just, you know, there obviously there's some breaks in there, but just, you know, constantly I, this, uh, is totally unrelated and I know we probably gotta go, but this huge, um, record that influenced the hell outta me the last like, probably six to eight months with this new Killer's record called Pressure Machine. Yeah. Freaking just genius. And, um, I was working out to that, um, two or three weeks ago and I got to the end of it and had it up real loud in my garage and I didn't know that there was like this bonus track and it was a video and it's him talking about writing and working on this record. Brandon Flowers, the lead singer, and he said, um, he says practiced like three or four times I missed dudes and huge band The Killers.
Speaker 2 00:53:17 Yeah. And he just keeps talking about practicing and writing and he just really had to work at it and it wasn't, you know, it wasn't one of these people like I think I can be as you're just sitting there waiting around for like the song to fall outta the sky, you know, before you write it. And, um, it really inspired me to, to just, Hey, you know, you barely have 30 minutes here or 30 minutes there or 20 minutes here or an hour here, but get in there and just pick around and think about something. You just never know when it might pop out. And um, that's exactly how it happened yesterday, man. I just, uh, you know, my wife always asked me, she says, how where in the hell did that come from? I'm like, hell, I don't know. I was writing about my first girlfriend one minute and the next thing Noah, it was about church and now we're talking about getting married. Like, it's just like, you know, when you got a d d you write about anything you want, blame it on that
Speaker 1 00:54:11 For real. Absolutely, man. Well bro, appreciate you so much. Thank you. Next time we'll get you in one of those Yankee hats. Yeah. Not
Speaker 2 00:54:17 Having them, bro. Appreciate
Speaker 1 00:54:18 You're Red Sox fan.
Speaker 2 00:54:19 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:19 Oh boy.
Speaker 2 00:54:20 There's two things my father taught me in life. He said You hate the Cubs and you hate the Yankees. I'm a Cardinal fan man.
Speaker 1 00:54:27 <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:54:27 I got y'all beat us in a lot of World Series
Speaker 1 00:54:28 Back we did long time, way long, long time ago, even
Speaker 2 00:54:31 Before I
Speaker 1 00:54:31 Was born. Hopefully both of our teams can get back there soon, man. Uh, but you shout out David Nail. Make sure you guys check him out tour dates, they're posted on the website, David nail music.com. Check him out. Um, thanks as always for watching. Make sure you write, like, subscribe, um, anywhere you listen to your podcast. Um, shout out to the sponsors. Got our boy Mitch Wallace, the digital marketing agency. Hit him up, whale Tail Media, hit them up Saxon Studios and then of course our friends in the Green World, Trailside, cbd. Get that tasty Delta eight t h c, so you could save 20% by using promo code i t r at checkout. We'll see you all next time. This has been the In the Round podcast.
