Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is going on? Everybody? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler. What's up? Still up in Delaware, still in quarantine, and we have with us over Skype today. Our good buddy, big time Cardinals fan. A Missouri man, Mr. Matt Wyn. Matt, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 2 00:00:31 I'm doing all right, man. How are you doing in Delaware?
Speaker 1 00:00:34 We're doing good. We're, honestly, we're hanging in there. We're, we're up here, up here with some family. Um, this is probably the longest time in a while that Boudreaux, an old Alabama guy, has been up in Yankee country. So it's spent
Speaker 3 00:00:45 Five years. I spent six months in 2015 up here between Connecticut and Southern New Jersey.
Speaker 1 00:00:50 So, yeah, but he's been up, he's been up here now for, we've been up here for over six weeks, or right around six weeks. So it's been a while now. Have you been in Nashville this whole time? Or have you been going back and forth from Missouri?
Speaker 2 00:01:01 I've been in Nashville, man. Um, I, and the biggest thing was, you know, I mean, I live in Nashville, so I was, you know, and I, I lived with my girlfriend, so we were, you know, we're here and, and we didn't really, you know, for a long time, for several weeks. There was really not a whole lot of information. There was basically just stay home. And then, you know, my, my family, you know, we, we had seen some people and stuff, you know, and, and for a while, like, you know, we didn't know who you were exposed to, you know, for a little bit. So you kind of just stayed put. And we've just been here, it's one of the longest I probably went without at some point, seeing my, my family, um, you know, whether it was just passing through town or they were here or something. Um, it's really, it's kind of odd cuz we missed, you know, uh, we missed Easter, we missed, um, I think Mother's Day we're gonna be able to get home for the first time. That's
Speaker 1 00:01:50 Good.
Speaker 2 00:01:51 A few months. But I mean, I was gonna be on the road a lot, you know, already, you know, pretty much traveling a lot. So I, I wasn't gonna be in town a ton anyway, but it wasn't supposed to be this long. So,
Speaker 1 00:02:02 Yeah, it's a weird, it's a weird spot for all of us that are, that are in the music game, whether it's crew members like myself and Tyler, guys that are in the industry that way, or of course, artists like yourself who sure are out weekend warrioring it and out there writing, playing gigs in town, doing writer's rounds, being around your crew, like even just hanging out in Midtown. Like so many things that we take for granted. Oh, yeah. Like those late nights at Red Door or Live Oak or places like that. Like, the fact that we haven't had one of those, and now it's, it seems like forever. It's, it's crazy, you know,
Speaker 2 00:02:33 It's, it's odd, man. I mean, it, I was telling, I was telling, um, my girlfriend Katie the other day, we were just chatting about it and I was like, man, it's odd that, you know, this is such a weird time to live in because I feel like it's, you've been going on for so long and it almost feels normal. Um, yeah. You know, which is, you know, it's not normal, but it feels like you just get used to it. You know? I've seen people out, like, and wearing masks and seeing other people with masks and realizing it, you know, I don't know what live music is gonna look like in the future. Um, you know, just moving forward. Like, we, we were talking earlier, you know, us before we started about caps, you know, for like, major festivals and, you know, guys like, you know, who draw masks and crowds like Aldean or something, you know, going out. It's not like they're gonna just all of a sudden be like, all right, you can, you can go and play your stadiums, you know, now. Um, what's that gonna look like? I, I don't know.
Speaker 1 00:03:26 Um, yeah, dude. Yeah, dude, it's gonna change the landscape, I'm sure. But so talking about you, so how long you been in Nashville? How long, when did you make the move?
Speaker 2 00:03:33 That's the, that's the question, isn't it? That's, that's like the, the opener. It's that, and we should write some time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:40 <laugh>, uh, it's,
Speaker 2 00:03:41 Those two
Speaker 3 00:03:42 Didn't, uh, didn't Ward make those
Speaker 1 00:03:44 Shirts? Yeah, I think Whiskey Jam has a shirt that says we should write some time
Speaker 2 00:03:48 <laugh>. Yes. No, I think they do actually. And I love it. Um, cuz I mean, I, that's so funny, man. That's just the, for whatever reason, that's what people say, but I've been in Nashville about five, six years.
Speaker 1 00:03:59 Oh, nice.
Speaker 2 00:04:00 Yeah, so I, I, I started, you know, I'm from Missouri and a big Cardinals fan, you can tell. And, um, I, I, uh, I started cuz, cuz Missouri, I'm from st uh, uh, in a town about an hour outside of St. Louis called Flint Hill. Um, it's a small farm town, about 600 people. And, um, I, I first started taking trips because it wasn't very far. It was like five hours and it was like all highway, you know, so you could just pretty much drive blindfolded. Um, you know, there, you don't have to get up, only have to get off like once or twice, you know, and it's just onto a different highway. Yeah. Um, so it's, it's pretty re you know, crazy. So I started taking trips, did that for maybe a year, year and a half. And then I had an opportunity with a friend of mine, Todd Hanock, um, to, uh, who I had been staying with.
Speaker 2 00:04:47 He was nice enough to offer his room. I had so many friends and people like that who offered their extra room or a couch or, you know, and I'm so grateful for that. But he was like, man, I don't normally like roommates, but I like you <laugh>. He's like, you know, you practically live here anyways, like, you want to just move in and throw me a little money for rent? And I was like, well, yeah, I'd love to. And I did that for about three years. And then, um, a little over a year ago, um, my girlfriend moved to town and we got a place together and it's been, it's been a really amazing ride. Awesome.
Speaker 1 00:05:16 Oh dude, that's great. That's a cool, that's a cool story, man. And so many people do that couch crashing thing when they move to Nashville, like, like initially, and people come from all over the place. People come as far north as New York, like myself, or there's a bunch of damn Yankees coming down. There's people coming up from Florida, people coming in from Texas, lot of folks from Missouri too, which I did not realize until pretty recently. But a lot of guys like yourself, guys like Alec Davis, there's a lot of dudes that are Missouri guys that come to Nashville as well. So what was the music scene like for you, um, growing up in Missouri? Like were there spots that you would go and play and like gigs that you had before you moved to town?
Speaker 2 00:05:51 Sure. Uh, of course, you know, I was traveling, um, a little bit, especially in the Midwest. Um, before I moved to town, I'd been playing music full-time, you know, started like just in bars and all that crap since I was, you know, um, so I did a little bit when I was 17 and then right when I turned 18, I pretty much was doing, I was doing full-time, um, and finding loopholes, you know, to be in bars, you know, that where they would <laugh> agree to hire, you know, agree to hire me. Yeah. You know, even though I wasn't 21, they're like, basically if you don't cause any problems, you can be here, you know? And I was like, you know, so I'm thankful for that. Um, and uh, you know, I kept my nose pretty clean, but I, I, uh, a lot in St.
Speaker 2 00:06:32 Louis, um, would be like, where you would play, like, not just St. Louis City, but St. Louis, um, suburbs and stuff. Um, whether it was bars, restaurants, wineries, you know, um, a lot of that starting out. And then, you know, and then actually a lot, especially when I was even like late teens, um, a lot of like casinos and different things in town or that, or other places that have, you know, uh, uh, bigger artists come into town and they'd need like an open, you know, an opener or something. And I either someone knew me or I knew them or weezled my way into those slots and uh, you know, just got to open for a lot of people. And I met a lot of people that lived in Nashville, like bigger artists that were really, you know, really sweet to me. And, um, you know, everyone was like, you gotta get to Nashville.
Speaker 2 00:07:17 You gotta, you know, you gotta, you gotta get there, you gotta experience it, you gotta move there, you know, it, it's just, you hit a and they're right. You know, you hit a ceiling, um, you know, in a local market or in a, even a state market, you know? But I mean, you can make an amazing living. No, don't get me wrong. Yeah. Like, I know, I know guys that do it and they make tons of money, you know, but it's, you know, if you want to take it to the next place, a national place, a worldwide place, you know, you gotta go to the hub. Um,
Speaker 1 00:07:42 Ab absolutely. Now being on, being on the road as much as you are and, and doing those drives as a Midwestern guy, how good is Casey's pizza for those who don't know? Like those late nights Casey's I've learned is like, Casey's and come and go, seem to be the Midwestern staples.
Speaker 2 00:07:57 Dude, man, I, I'll tell you what, so where I grew up come and go was not as common there. There'd be a huge, every like one, every now and again, Casey's was the one that I was, was around all the time. Casey's, yeah, dude, their pizza's, it sounds crazy because it's just a gas station, you know, but they're pretty much, you know, like a lot of these gas stations, you know, are trans cuz you know, who knows? I don't know if like electric, you know, will take over or different fuel source eventually will switch over. You know, there are a lot of these are transitioning into basically restaurants, you know, like Yeah, yeah. You know, and, and food, food suppliers, at least the smart ones, you know, and then they, then that's where they make their money anyway. It's not with the gas really. So, um, Casey's has got killer pizza and I always get it every time I'm in town. Another one that's really great is, uh, QuickTrip, you know?
Speaker 1 00:08:44 Yeah. Oh yeah. We've, we've hit QuickTrip. We, and we're, we're eight guys in a sprinter when we're out on the road. So you see eight dudes just roll in and we go hamming those, those times it
Speaker 3 00:08:53 Actually scares people sometimes. Cuz you'll see, like, especially before the show, you'll see a black sprinter pull up to the front door, a door slings open me, Charlie, and like, maybe like Gary or Lee will pop out and it's just like, I, we've scared some people outta thing
Speaker 1 00:09:08 Thing cause we got, we got guys in all shapes and sides and stuff. But when we roll in, we're, we're doing some damage at a quick trip or at a come and go or at a Casey's, you know, and I'm sure you get it with, with being out on the road with your boys too. And, uh, those late things stops. They are essential. Dude loves
Speaker 3 00:09:22 For me.
Speaker 2 00:09:23 Yeah, man. You know, I mean, most of those, you know, and it's, most of those, you know, gigs, you know, will end late, you know, and you'll get, and then Oh yeah. When you strip everything down, pick everything up, it's even later, you know, so those are the places that are open that are like, you know, fast food or anything. And it's, it's hard for, you know, me, I, you know, I try to keep 'em in good shape and, you know, work out and eat, eat as good as I can cuz it's part of the image, you know, but it's hard to eat healthy on the road.
Speaker 1 00:09:49 Oh dude, it is. Some of our guys, some of our guys, they've started bringing coolers on the road and like meal prepping me and Tyler. Yeah. We're, we're, we're big. We're bigger dudes. Tyler, after the show loves, we call it his chalky milk, he gets his chocolate milk on the road. Like we'll go in and get, and I and ama fi for tho those heath bars. And then if we hit, like, like Tyler was gonna say, that loves Yeah. Loves and, uh, flying Jay
Speaker 3 00:10:09 Pilot,
Speaker 1 00:10:10 Those, those, those pizzas when they, right. When they come right out the oven or if they got the, the little Debbie snacks that you just wanna be a bad boy. Dude, I have after a show, you know,
Speaker 3 00:10:18 There's been times that I have seen some guys in our crew, the angriest I've ever seen them, because some dude walked up, they were waiting in line for pizza and they were waiting in line like you're supposed to. And some dude walked up and started yelling, yo, can I get all this pizza right here at like three o'clock in the morning? And they just kind of looked down at him and he got all the pizza and she was like, I'm the only person here. I can't make more. And like, that's probably been the iest I've seen guys <laugh>, like
Speaker 2 00:10:48 That's just a Yeah, that's a low move.
Speaker 1 00:10:50 Yeah. Those truckers, those truckers can, can be, can low ball you dude. They they can, they can really hit you where it hurts.
Speaker 2 00:10:57 Yeah. I mean, well, yeah, they don't mess around. That's where those guys thrive and live, you know? So I mean, they're just kinda like, we, we run this place, <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:11:05 Yeah, that's, you're in our house truck. Stop. Know. So, so, so of all the places you've gotten to go on the road, do you have a favorite market that you like to hit? Or like a place that was like, that was really cool. I wanna go back,
Speaker 2 00:11:16 Man. Um, you know, I mean, anywhere. I honestly, like, there's so many great places for different reasons, you know, um, I mean, anytime you're anywhere near home is always cool because like, even like even a stayed away or something, um, because you have so many people, friends and family come out and usually there's like a, and I don't, I don't get as home to play as often as I used to. You know, it's, it's more, you know, it's those, you know, bigger shows and things. Um, so when I do, it's usually like just you see a big crowd come out, you know, you see all those people come out and it's just a cool, really cool welcome. Especially when it's near St. Louis. Um, because it's just, that's where I, you know, started playing. That's where I grew up. That's where I built my following originally. Um, you know, that's really cool. Um, I really like, um, Kentucky a lot. Uh, for whatever reason, man, they, um, I just have a good fan base in that area and like every time I go it gets bigger and they, the people there are so friendly, man.
Speaker 1 00:12:19 The Kentucky crowds are awesome now. Where, where in Kentucky? Yeah. Kentucky's awesome. Where, where in Kentucky have you played?
Speaker 2 00:12:25 I've played in Sturgis. Um, it's, which I played in Paducah. Um, there's a couple other small towns in there that, um, I played in Lexington. Lexington,
Speaker 1 00:12:37 L Lexington's, a pretty cool time. We've been there.
Speaker 3 00:12:38 Where'd you play at in Lexington?
Speaker 2 00:12:40 Lexington's. Awesome man. I I would, I love that. Not just, there's some my favorite, like one of my favorite distilleries is there too. Um, which one?
Speaker 1 00:12:50 Oh, we got, we gotta get on Bourbon Talk. Uh oh. Uh, <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:12:53 Kentucky Bourbon. Kentucky Bur it's Lexington Distillery, but they, they make like the, the Kentucky Bourbon Barrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, beer, which is frigging killer. And then they, they make my favorite Bourbon Town Branch Bourbon. Okay. Um, I don't know if you've ever had it, man, but it's, it
Speaker 3 00:13:09 Is, I haven't had that one yet for my birthday this year. Me and my girlfriend went up there for, uh, extended weekend and we did seven of the distilleries. We actually stayed, uh, kind of like 30 minutes outside of Lexington, a town called Stamping Ground, which is where they would like the buffalo before they'd go to the river, would like stamp the ground there. So like, they, they called it Stamping Ground. And we stayed actually in an old distillery that's now closed. We stayed in their, uh, office, their old office building that was built in like the 1890s. It was really cool experience, man. Wow. Yes. And the Airbnb, it's a really cool man, if you ever get like, do that or something, like, it's a really cool place to stay. It's actually pretty cheap.
Speaker 1 00:13:48 Yeah. I've, yeah, I've heard a bourbon tour is just awesome. I can't drink anymore. I ruined it for myself. I got in too early, got developed a problem, <laugh> I'm come coming up on four years of sobriety here in a few weeks, which is awesome and great. But like these bourbon tours, in fact, the Kentucky's right over like, it's not that far from Nashville. You can go Right. It's
Speaker 3 00:14:03 Not that far from Missouri either.
Speaker 1 00:14:04 Yeah. Or that far from Missouri, where you go, you go right over the border and you can get the best bourbon in the world,
Speaker 2 00:14:11 Dude. It's great. And, and I, and man, congrats in sobriety. Thank you
Speaker 1 00:14:14 Buddy.
Speaker 2 00:14:15 That's amazing. I just, because, you know, it's, it's a lot harder than people think it is, you know,
Speaker 1 00:14:21 Especially in Nashville, Tennessee. There are some Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. It's a, it's a good time in Nashville and I know we've had, we've had some good times out together and, and we've had you play around at Live Oak and we've seen you seen you out and about and stuff. A lot of fun in Nashville, Tennessee, but you gotta find your ways to get through it as a sober guy. So I've found my ways to do that and, uh, and it's been a, it's been a good time. Well, do you remember your first night? This is a question we, we've, we haven't asked in a lot of recent episodes, but do you remember your first, the first night in Nashville that you don't remember?
Speaker 2 00:14:52 Oh, that's a great question, man. Um, you know, I'm trying to think. Cuz I, I'm, you know, I like to drink and everything. I, I've ne I've never had that party phase where I really go out and just like, was just getting hammered every night. I've never been that guy because I was kind of, I was really focused, you know, on what I was doing and what, but I, but I mean, that being said, you always, I, if I'm gonna do that, I'm usually with like, some of my closest people Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:15:20 Who are some of the who, who's like your crew. Where when, when you get that text from, from somebody and you're like, okay, it's gonna be a night, we're gonna end up at Red Door, we're probably gonna end that cookout. When, when, who are, who's that crew?
Speaker 2 00:15:30 There's two, there's there the one, the first one that I think I remember was probably a few, couple years ago, um, maybe a few years ago or something. Um, it's hard to remember when I just feel like I've always been here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:15:43 National days, like blending to one, you know, months into a day basically.
Speaker 2 00:15:49 They do. And I think that the per the one that I remember distinctly, and there might have been one before, it was, um, I think you guys know him, Justin Builtin.
Speaker 1 00:15:57 Oh yeah. We actually, we had Justin, we've been doing these, um, the social distancing sessions, like the live videos on the weekends here. Yeah. And we actually had Justin on, um, on, uh, last weekend.
Speaker 2 00:16:08 Dude. That's great. Man. Justin's like my big brother. He's, he's, he's frigging killer. I, we, me and him co-wrote, um, I think like three, two or three of us singles. Three of them, three of 'em together. Uh, and and he's got a new one out. That's awesome. Yeah. Um, know you guys gotta take a listen. Um, me and him are, he was one of my oldest friends in Nashville and um, we, he's just, just a salt of the earth kind of guy, but, but, um, with him, I think the la we went out to I think Whiskey Jam, um, and it was to see our friend Jesse g I don't know if you know Jesse, um, Jesse signed at Gretchen Wilson's like record.
Speaker 1 00:16:52 Oh, nice. Okay. Awesome.
Speaker 2 00:16:53 Yeah. So Jessie's like my sister. Yeah. You know, and, and Justin, Justin introduced me to Jessie. So, um, and, uh, we were going out and seeing them and I, we didn't even, I don't even think we really intended to go like, really that hard. We were just
Speaker 1 00:17:07 Going, you never, you never do. And then you walk in the door at winners and you got a friend on stage and then winners turns to losers, losers turns to red door, and then the night from there. Who knows?
Speaker 2 00:17:17 That's pretty much what happens, you know? And I, yeah. And I stayed at Justin's and cuz his was right up the road. Um, and we, we just, that, that was the first one I think I remember. And, and most of the other ones had been with Jesse <laugh>, so
Speaker 1 00:17:31 Oh yeah. Here, here for the party. And Gretchen Wilson style
Speaker 2 00:17:34 <laugh> dude, tell you what, man, and I, and I know Gretchen and, uh, she's badass. She's cool. And man, but I'll tell you what, she could drink any one of us under the table. Really? Yeah. Oh my God, man. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 00:17:48 I've heard some of like, the stories of like, whenever her and like the guys in Big and Rich and all that were kind of coming up on Broadway. Yeah. And like we're playing, we're still playing out on Broadway at times. I've heard some stories of them and yeah, I fully believe that she could drink anybody under the table that we've probably had on the show. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:18:07 It's really, it's really impressive. Cuz I'm not lightweight by any means. It takes quite a bit to get me there, you know, but, but, um, but man, she's, she's got some years on me doing that, so, uh, man, she's just, she's just a badass. I, I think the world of her. So, um, that, that whole crew, honestly, that whole crew, um, the Gretchen Crew, the music mafia, you know, crew of, um, them, John, you know, rich and um, uh, Trent Thompson, who's a buddy of mine, um, who's also from Missouri. Ken Kent, Missouri. Really? I
Speaker 1 00:18:38 Didn't know tr I didn't know Trent was from Missouri.
Speaker 2 00:18:40 Yep. Trent's from, from Missouri. Ken. That's awesome. Ken. Ken, yeah. Kent, Missouri. Same town, actually. Same hometown as, uh, Ken, at least in that general area as David Nail and, uh, Cheryll Crow. Oh
Speaker 1 00:18:52 Boy. Wow.
Speaker 2 00:18:53 Damn. Yeah. So
Speaker 1 00:18:55 Every, everybody talks about Georgia and Texas and North Carolina. What about Missouri? Y'all got, y'all got a lot of talent coming out there
Speaker 2 00:19:03 For whatever reason, man, we fly under the radar and I don't know why, but I mean, frigging Walt Disney's from Missouri. Yeah. <laugh>. So, I mean, yeah. You know, I mean, it, it's, it's, there's a lot of random talent, like random amazing talent and there's actually, there's a lot of really incredible music. Music, you know, talent and two that are, that is already established and that is coming up, um, in the scene. You know, and I, not a ton of people that I know are in Nashville, um, from, at least from my part of Missouri, but I've bet several, um, other ones. It is just interesting that, cuz for whatever reason people don't think a lot of Missouri people are here, but, but a lot of the people that they know, they don't realize are from there.
Speaker 3 00:19:45 And honestly it makes a lot of sense cuz like, I know in my experience of driving across Missouri, it is kind of like North Carolina and Georgia and Alabama and all the other states that we highly required for songwriters because there's a lot of like country, there's a lot of, you know, small towns and stuff. I remember the first time I actually drove through Missouri, we, uh, it was whenever it was last summer, they were doing a ton of construction on like, all the interstates in St. Louis. And we missed a turn in St. Louis and couldn't get turned back around to make it. And we ended up going like two and a half hours out of our way, basically through, we were supposed to skirt up like the side of Missouri and go over cause we were going to Des Moines, but instead we had to go like into the middle of the state and then up and there was just hours and hours and hours and hours of country and farm fields and then more hours and hours. And then all of a sudden you're well along the way we found the, uh, American Gothic house just by luck. We somehow, we just went by it and we're like, whoa, shit, we've been in the van for eight hours in the country, there's nothing better to do. And then we just pull in and all of a sudden it's like, wow, we're in Des Moines after 42 hours of farmland, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:21:03 There's a lot of farm, you know, in, in a lot of farms in Missouri, especially depending on what part you're in. Um, you know, if you and it, yeah, there are certain parts of Missouri, if you miss your exit, you may not see another one for another 15 miles. Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. Pay be be sure to pay attention <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:21:21 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:21:22 Otherwise,
Speaker 1 00:21:23 Yeah, for sure, man. Um, what's the, uh, have you, did you play, um, on the college circuit there at all? Did you ever go to Columbia? Um, ev What's Mizzou like?
Speaker 2 00:21:32 Mizzou. So, um, I haven't played there a ton. I've, I've visited and I played there a little bit, but I haven't, I haven't not like, I wasn't like a regular by any means and I, not really on purpose. I just was always playing different markets. Um, but, uh, Mizzou's great man. I mean it's, uh, it's just, it's a college town. The whole thing is built. That whole place is built around Mizzou, you know, I mean, and then there's other really cool stuff like Shakespeare's Pizza and you know, a few other like really cool like spots, um, to hit there. But man, I'll those, uh, Mizzou guys and girls, man, they, they, uh, they're intense.
Speaker 1 00:22:09 They know how to party.
Speaker 2 00:22:10 Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:22:11 <laugh>. Yeah. Cause the, because we, we go to a lot of college towns and I'm sure you do as well, where like we're talking about Lexington and places like that. The, and, and a lot of people, a lot of the southerners gimme shit over this. But I say one of my favorite college town experiences that I've had going, being out on the road and hanging out after a show, which we don't do a whole lot of that. Usually we end up at whatever, whatever city we're in, we end up at the Waffle House and then we get down the road. That's like our mentality. But Manhattan, Kansas, I don't know if you've ever been Kansas State? No. Manhattan, Kansas. Hidden fucking gem. Dude. I very much enjoy Manhattan, Kansas. It's great. They have a thing called Aggie V, which is kind of like a mini Broadway. They've got like,
Speaker 3 00:22:50 And I was saying Aggie v I thought that was Texas a and m. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1 00:22:53 You think Aggies, you think Texas a and m, but they call it Ville. And the venue that we were at is called The Hat in Manhattan. And a lot of like Texas Red Dirt style guys play there. And we were there. It's a small, smaller room. It's like three, 400 people, but it's right on the strip. So you get out, you load out, you can just walk down the block and there's just bars and college kids.
Speaker 3 00:23:13 We were literal everywhere. Were in the, uh, the parking lot of the venue loading out. And there was like girls and other people, like at the bar, literally on the other side of the parking lot, just yelling, Hey, are y'all coming out? Like, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1 00:23:26 They, they're very hospitable and if you go out and hang out with 'em, they will, they will treat you like one of their own.
Speaker 2 00:23:33 And I have no doubt I've been to a lot of places like what you're describing, where they're, you know, where they're, it's kind of just one of those towns in a state that no one really knows. You know? Like unless you've been there, you know, or unless you pass through or whatever. And, and they're some of the nicest, coolest people that I've met. And Sturgis, Kentucky, I mentioned that that was one of, one of those places
Speaker 1 00:23:54 Where, where in Kentucky is that?
Speaker 2 00:23:57 Um, it's, I would say it's, it's not too, too far from Paducah. I mean, it's not like, it's not close. It's probably good. I'm bad with direction. I can take you there, but I can never tell you <laugh> how far everything is. You know, I can be like, come on. And they're like, how do you get there? I'll take you. No, no, tell me how to get there. I'll take you.
Speaker 3 00:24:18 Well, you go down to the Third Rock on the right and hang left there, and then there's a tree and you hang right about 40 fence posts after that. You know, <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:24:27 <laugh>. That's exactly right. So, um, it's, it's probably, I think it's like an hour maybe from Paducah. Um,
Speaker 1 00:24:36 And what was the venue like that you were there, that you were playing out there? Is it a club? Is it a bar? What, what's the scene like out there?
Speaker 2 00:24:42 Uh, well there's, there's a couple spots. The place that we played was, um, uh, it was, it was like a bull riding arena. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:24:52 Nice. Those places get wild, those, those bull riding things. We've done some of those bulls, boots, barrels or bands, boot
Speaker 3 00:25:00 Pools, bands or barrels.
Speaker 1 00:25:01 Yeah, it's like a, like a, they put, they put a stage inside of like the riding arena or the ring or
Speaker 3 00:25:06 Whatever. They put it at the end of the arena. Like the stage is at the end. But like, they basically, after the, like riding's done, they open up the, like the actual bull Pitt and like they open up the dirt and you go in there and like the stage is like at the end, but you're actually sitting where like all the events just happened. And, uh, I was running sound off an iPad and about halfway through the concert, about 20 of the riders and cowboys got in a fight over a girl. And I got in the middle of that squirmish <laugh>, like literally, like, I was just standing there and a guy kinda like took a step to his right and all of a sudden, like, this dude just comes flying at me. He like hit me in my sins, almost took me out, just kind of grabbed my iPad and like kind of backed out of it. I was,
Speaker 1 00:25:48 And Tyler's a big guy. Most bull riders aren't ginormous dudes. Um, Tyler's like 6, 6 4. So you see, you just, I've remember watching it from merch land, like the cow, those cowboy folk, they get pretty wild. So those rodeo
Speaker 3 00:26:00 Actually, he snuck back in and then fought the cops.
Speaker 1 00:26:02 Oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. They get crazy. That was, that was down in Alabama though. That was, that
Speaker 3 00:26:06 Was, that was outside of Walburn.
Speaker 1 00:26:07 That was, that was also the same venue where there were, there were people that, um, at the meet and greet after they introduced us to their pet raccoon, they brought their pet rack in with them.
Speaker 2 00:26:15 Sounds like Alabama, huh?
Speaker 1 00:26:17 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's very much, very much like that. So have you done a lot of, like, so you talk about like the cowboy the cowboy thing with that venue. What's that place like? What's that crowd like and interacting with like the Western style people?
Speaker 2 00:26:30 Yeah, I mean the crowd's great. I mean, it's just a bunch of, you know, like blue collar, you know, type type folks. You know, a lot of people work with their hands. I mean, there's other people too, but it is that kind of crowd, you know, that, you know, for me and a lot of my songs are like working man, you know? Yeah. Kinda, you know, anthem, anthem type stuff with a little bit of, you know, it's country with like a little bit of a rock edge, you know? So, um, you know, they love that, you know, they, that that kind of crowd for me is, you know, that's the people that really loved my music. And, um, they were just great. I mean, before I came there, I, you know, some of the people knew about me, but a lot of people that were there didn't know who I was.
Speaker 2 00:27:07 But when, you know, I was at the meet and greet, you know, or you know, I did meet and greets and then I was at the merch table afterwards, you know, signing for like hours, you know. Um, so it was just, it was just, they were just an un incredibly warm and well welcoming and, and they actually, like, a lot of people say they're gonna follow you. They actually followed you, you know what I mean, on socials and stuff. And I saw a big bump on that. And it's just that, that, and that means the most, sometimes more than anybody, you know, anything is just, you know, people coming up afterwards and saying, I much, they love it. And supporting buying a t-shirt or something. Yeah. Or just, and then going after that and following you and following what you're doing. I always say that's, I'm like, you know, you can tip me. That's great. I'm like, and that's, you know, that's important. But I'm like, the biggest thing you can do is go follow me and, and you know, support on that. The social end, you know, cuz that's, you know, your, your reach is gonna reach further than what I can do and you know's gonna keep her going.
Speaker 1 00:27:58 Yeah. 100 per Yeah. 100%. So you talk about more like that rock and blue collar style for you, who are some of like your influences? Like who are some people that you were like fucking with from an early, from an early age, like you were jamming to?
Speaker 2 00:28:10 Sure. Um, well, uh, my first two records I ever owned, um, were Garth Garth Brooks records called Scarecrow and, uh, a Beatles live anthology record.
Speaker 1 00:28:24 Oh, nice. That's two, two very opposite ends of the spectrum too, which is cool.
Speaker 2 00:28:27 Very, yeah, two very opposite ends of the spectrum. But it made me love songwriting. It made me love the writers. You know, I got really curious about who was writing these, these songs and not just singing them all the time too. Um, and, and that story aspect of country music in that, that you can sing about and talk about different things that you can't in other genres. The Beatles had that too. And that's what made them unique, is that they were able to speak and talk about things in a way that spoke to everybody and not just, you know, what that genre was supposed to be allowed to do or say. Yeah. Um, and that was what, you know, one of the things that I think that made it so made them as big as what they were is the songs. You know, it's always to me, you know, you can have a great singer and they're people, they're great singers and you know, and I, obviously I'm a singer and things like that, but I'm also a songwriter if, you know, you can have a, you can have a great singer and everything and that's, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:29:22 But, you know, the song is what Matters. The song is what gives people that, that singer, you know, the material gives people that connection. They're gonna remember that, you know, the songs are what matter, I think. And, um, to me, those two records and those two artists have always been about the song. And so I grew up listening to like Travis Trt and Phil Vassar and, uh, you know, Tim McGraw, rascal Flats was one of the biggest things, um, you know, at the time of me growing up. Um, and that was, you know, uh, uh, a big influence on me, especially vocally, um, just with what Gary does. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:30:03 It's, it's, yeah, it's insane what he does vocally like to think those guys have been around for so long and the fact that they're, I think now they're doing, they're at that level where like they're, they're announcing like, like farewell tours and things like that now. Yeah. But to see the longevity and the different styles of songs and like the, the power that, that a band like Rascal Flats had and still has to this
Speaker 3 00:30:24 Day. Also, how they even like, you know, at times were controversial, but they overcame that, you know, too with the whole like music video thing that they did. And there was a couple other things, you know, where there was a lot of controversy, but it was cool to see them walk through that and kind of pave their own path through that.
Speaker 2 00:30:41 No, you're right. I mean, and I admire 'em. I mean, it's hard to, it's, you know, it's hard to have, you know, success that is is last, you know what I mean? Success,
Speaker 1 00:30:50 Lot, lot, lot of, lot of one hit wonders in the world, you know, lots of people that have that one song. And to be able to have a career and to stay relevant as there's new people coming up and things like that. Like, you gotta respect that. Even guys that you're talking about, like Travis Trip mean just freaking legend. And then Tim mc Oh yeah. And then Tim McGraw, I remember what was the first Tim McGraw song you can remember? Like what's like, and I'm, I'm sure you play some covers out in the road too, like, do you cover Tim Mc McGraw? Sure.
Speaker 2 00:31:16 Like, like are you talking like the first record? You know, first time I remember like, hearing him on the radio. Like what song kind of thing. Or like,
Speaker 1 00:31:23 Um, I mean, honestly if, I mean, if you had the CDs like growing up as a kid too and you remember hearing that way.
Speaker 2 00:31:29 Well that, so I think the first record I really, of his, that I really listened to like fold through and just got me like hooked on what he did was that set the circus down, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:31:40 Yep. Same, same here dude. Same here. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:31:43 Man, that, that record, dude that record. And he, and he does this with pretty much most of his records. And I, I will always support him and love him cuz he's about the song. It's about the song. It's always about the song. He's a great, he's, he's a great singer. He is a great stylist. He can book, he can make, you know, he's not really much of a, he's not really a writer. Like, he doesn't write a lot. He does some, but he is not like a big writer, but he's always about the song. He's a songwriter champion, you know, and that's the, that's what's really cool and I love about him. Yeah. And, and, and he is got that iconic thing. He comes on the radio man and you know exactly who it is. Yeah. You know, and, and that's, that's what is so cool about him and that record in particular. But really all his records, they're great records. It's not just like a hand of really good songs.
Speaker 1 00:32:27 It's a whole body. It, it's a whole body of work from top to bottom, which, which a lot of people aren't necessarily doing anymore. Like the artists that are doing that really stand out because they're putting out records and all, a lot
Speaker 3 00:32:38 Of us, and a lot of times they are the songwriters too for those, you know, um, a lot of the guys that are putting out the full bodies of work a lot of times are the guys who are also writing the full bodies of work like that.
Speaker 2 00:32:48 Yeah. I mean, and it's cool because it's, you know, he is a guy that cares about the full record. He understands, and a lot of people understand, especially writers, they understand that every song on their record is not gonna be a number one song, you know? But every every, every song on the record is to matter and be great, you know? And because there is a potential that one of those songs that you don't think could, is gonna be a big hit will be, you know, um, and, and I just, that record in particular that set that circus down record, man, that was one of my favorites. Um, the song Angry all the time
Speaker 1 00:33:21 On there. Yeah, dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:33:23 <laugh> that I mean, yeah. And like Unbroken and
Speaker 1 00:33:27 Yeah, unbroken Unbroken is a really good one. Tellurides a really good one. Um, yeah. Um, cowboy and Me, I believe is on that one. Ooh.
Speaker 2 00:33:34 That's one of my favorite songs, which
Speaker 1 00:33:35 Is just, yeah, I, I don't know exactly who wrote that one, but Tim McGiff, Jeffrey Steel of, uh, makes Total Sense now. Yeah. <laugh>. Um, but what, yeah,
Speaker 2 00:33:43 Well there was, there was another, it was another writer too, but, but Jeff, Jeff is, yeah, that's,
Speaker 1 00:33:47 That's a legend. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:33:49 It's a typical Jeffrey Steel song. Um, the way he approached it, man. And, and I just grew to love what he does and the songs matter, man. And they're memorable and he's had, and that's the, I think that's the one of the reasons he's had such a long career, you know, and is still putting out hits, you know, is because it's the song matters, man.
Speaker 1 00:34:09 Yeah. 100, 100%. Now Tim McGraw was actually my first concert. I was a little kid. And, um, a lot of people don't think of country music being big up in like the Northeast and stuff, but I remember being a little kid and my grandma's like 99 Ford Windstar listening to all those, all those songs and all those records and stuff. Do you remember your first concert, like your first time that you were exposed to like, live music and you were like, I can, I I can see myself doing this shit?
Speaker 2 00:34:33 Oh, sure man. I think that there's different moments throughout like your early life, even into high school where you like think different things depending on what you're seeing. Um, the first memory of live music, a full concert was Toby Keith.
Speaker 1 00:34:49 Oh dude, Toby shows are fun. Which, which tour was that? What year was that one?
Speaker 2 00:34:55 Man? I'm trying to remember what that was. It might have been the Shock in Y'all when that record came out. I think that's when that was. Okay. Um, so he was like in the top of his game at that point. Um, I think that was the first full record, the first time I ever like really remember though, like live music and just going Wow. Um, was, I was at St. Louis Cardinals game and uh, Kenny Rogers came out and played the baseball song. I don't know if you know that song, the, I am the Greatest Player of them all. Yeah. Um, it's baseball, so Ball Goes Up, ball goes down, and he came out and just, just him with his acoustic guitar. It was like eight, you know, maybe. And he, and he just played it and I just thought, man, what a cool thing to be able to see. And now that especially he's passed away and, you know, um, what a cool thing to be able to see and experience. And I thought, man, that I'm like, you know, I was really little, but I was like, man, that would be something cool to do. And then, yeah, got gotten to high school and gotten into all sorts of, you know, playing and live music and, and things, but, and there's different periods I think where you experience different things, but that, and then the Garth Brooks, um, like CD collection where he played like in Ireland.
Speaker 1 00:36:10 Yeah. The Double Live bro. The Double
Speaker 2 00:36:12 Live,
Speaker 1 00:36:13 Double live listening to the way one the way, I mean, of course it's Garth, um, and he's a guy that I, I love and appreciate a tremendous amount, but the way that that live record was mixed, it's unlike other live records. Like, there's just this, this aura about it. And hearing those songs and his career, I mean, he took all that time off. And to have that many, that much success and that many hits and songs that are just timeless in that short period of time is insane.
Speaker 2 00:36:40 I mean, dude, it's like, you know, he took like, what, 14, 15 years off or something? And then he came back and it was like nothing changed. Oh yeah. I mean, in fact it was probably even bigger, you know?
Speaker 1 00:36:51 Oh, yeah, no, and I, I got to see two of those shows. So I used to do, when I was doing the radio thing up in Jersey, I got to cover a couple of those press conferences and, um, got to attend those shows as a, as a, as a, uh, as a media guy, which is one of the perks, you know, it's over, it's me. Radio is one of those things where you're, you're overworked and underpaid, but you do it for the perks and you do it cuz you love it. And one of those perks, one of those perks was getting to hang out with Garth Brooks at Yankee Stadium, getting to see Garth Brooks at the Prudential Center and to see a guy on his, on what's supposed to be like his, his comeback tour where, where we don't, where a lot of people didn't know what to expect, and he's just selling out stadiums nonstop. It's, it's insane.
Speaker 2 00:37:27 It's unbelievable, man. He's, he's an animal, not just in country music, but in all of music. He's, he's a, he's in his own category in the sense that he goes beyond country music. Um, people that have never heard a country song know, know friends in low places and they know Garth Brooks, like they know who that is, you know, I mean, and it's, and it's just the reach and the career length and the connection that he's made to so many people of so many different demographics, um, is really absolutely amazing. And honestly, um, if he hadn't came along, you know, and influenced me like he did, I don't know if I would be doing what I'd be doing. And on top of that, I definitely know musically I wouldn't be able to do what I'm
Speaker 1 00:38:09 Doing. Yeah. And, and honestly, and honestly as a whole, who knows where country music would be, you know, like they talk about like different chapters. And recently we've had the, the Broke country, like pop country chapter, which, which isn't, mine isn't my cup of tea. I'm sure it's not like necessarily like your cup of tea, but, but again, it's a chapter, like all different styles of music, especially within different formats and genres come about for a certain reason. And one thing leads to another without a guy like Gar, who knows if you'd have Jason Aldean and Kenny Chesney selling out stadiums like Lei, do you know?
Speaker 2 00:38:40 I don't think he would. No. Yeah. And that's just like, you know, people can argue and say, oh, someone else would've came along and did that, but they didn't. And Garth was the guy that did it first. And I, you who knows, you know, without that initial wall breaking, you know, that he did. Um, you know, because country music now, I mean, which is like you said, there are people selling out stadiums. I mean, you know, and, and that was not even anything that was the fact, you know, remotely a possibility. Yeah. The
Speaker 1 00:39:08 Fact, yeah, the fact that he was able to go over to Ireland and sell out, like, I think it was like close to like two weeks straight, like every night in the same soccer stadium, which has like a ton of people. It's bigger than Nissan in Nashville and Oh yeah. For, to, to sell that out and have the crowd singing back every single world, every single word. It's like a, like a rock concert, like a, um, like a, it's like a big time pop concert. Like the fact that you have that many people coming out to see it and they know every single word, they know every fucking word. Like it's, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 00:39:40 There's nothing like it. I mean, he's, he's a, that's a, I mean that's a God thing. I mean the, the, his career and his life and, and just everything about it is just unbelievable. And, um, and, and I admire him a lot, um, for remaining the person that he's remained through all of it, um, because it's, you know, it is very, and you know, I mean, everyone's gonna have their chair, you know, missteps and controversies and things of that nature. But I mean, all overall, I mean, he's been a really great example of a human being, you know, um, to not just, you know, his people, but to his fans, man. I mean, there's probably nobody out there that treats his, their fans like he does.
Speaker 1 00:40:23 Yeah, no, a absolutely 100%. So, so for you, man, you do a lot on the songwriting side as well. Um, you're a guy that, yeah, guy, that guy that gets talked about a lot as a writer in town, a guy that we love having not only play our rounds, but when we see you play at different places like Live Oak, doghouse, um, wherever, you know, like you're a guy that we love coming out to see. When did you kind of get started doing the writing process and when did songwriting and writing your own material become a thing?
Speaker 2 00:40:49 Thank you, man. I, I appreciate that. And, and, uh, writing, I, I'd always like, even when I was like, you know, in grade school, I'd always kind of toyed with writing and, you know, you, you kind of, everyone comes along to writing in a different way, you know, and I, I liked writing, I loved music and I was always singing and, you know, and stuff like that. I don't think I really wrote, I think the first time I wrote like a full song front to back, and it wasn't just a start or a little section of something, it was full song. Front to back was my, like freshman year in high school. Um, and I just, I wrote it in study hall, um, nice. And, you know, you know, yeah. It was just, I'll never forget that and I still have the lyrics written down and everything and, um, it was just one of those things.
Speaker 2 00:41:34 And then from there I had written a lot, um, not as much co-writing up until probably 18 or so. Um, there's 17, you know, somewhere in that ballpark. And then when I came to Nashville, I started co-writing a lot. And that's when the songs really got great, I think, um, you know, and really started to, you know, become a better writer cuz you learn from so many other people and you know, and you, you, you'll be amazed what you are, what you will write. And you never thought you would write anything like that, but it's great, you know? Yeah. It's constant growth.
Speaker 1 00:42:05 Yeah. And our, and our, our buddy Jordan Fletcher said it when we had him on the podcast. His goal is to be the worst writer in the room when he's co-writing with people. Like he wants to be with, with people that he, that he knows can bring because it's, it's like playing up, like say the Cardinals they're playing against, say they're in second place or third place, which they're gonna have a great year whenever baseball gets started, they gotta, they have a great team. But say that like, yeah, it's like playing up, you know, like playing up to your, to your competition a way, but like, playing up to the quality of what's in the room, you know, just the whole iron sharpens iron argument. Yeah. Iron sharpens iron for sure.
Speaker 2 00:42:38 You No, you're right, you're right man. And that's, that's a really well said what Jordan said, because I think that, um, every time where I became, I felt like I became a better writer. And every time I think I I, I wrote one of the, some of the best songs I've written, you know, um, and didn't think I was uncomfortable. I was a little uncomfortable, you know, in the room. Like, meaning, like there was, because people, the people around me were so freaking talented. Um, you know, or they, or they like didn't settle, you know, they, we, you know, they taught me, there's a handful of people that taught me don't settle, you know, didn't even, don't even realize you're settling, you know, sometimes on the line or on a melody or anything. And, um, and, and not to necessarily have to push, you know, I mean, there's always a day you can start something, make sure what you do and you, you is productive and you don't have to write a song every day.
Speaker 2 00:43:27 Sometimes you don't get one. And sometimes you just get a start on something. Um, and as long as each thing you're doing is great, you know, and you're enjoying it, it doesn't matter how much you get done in a day. Some days, that being said, some days you're just gonna write a song an hour and for whatever reason it just fell, you know, in place. But I think that's exactly true. I, I love riding with people. You love it and you hate it riding with people that are so amazing <laugh>, and they're, and they're, especially the guys, you know, that have multiple, multiple hits. Like my friends, like, like Trent Tomlinson and Phil Vassar and, um, Jim Collins and Tim Nichols, you know, and people like that who are, you know, friends of mine that I write with, you know, it's great writing with them cuz I learned so much. But it's a little scary, you know, I mean, because they're so freaking good, you know, that you're just kinda like, man, I better, I hope that I come into the room and I actually got my stuff today. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:44:19 Yeah, yeah. Exactly man. Um, and then, yeah, and then for, for 2020, right now, we know, as we talked about earlier, it's been a, what a hell of a year already. A lot of weird, unprecedented shit. And you've had a lot of gigs that you, you were supposed to be out at and rescheduling and getting all that there. Um, what do people have to look forward to for Matt Wynn the rest of 2020? I mean, I know shows are up in the air, but any chance of like, new music we're working on projects. Yeah. What we got, what do we got cooking?
Speaker 2 00:44:43 Man, I'll tell you what, 2020 last year, like the last half of last year was like unbelievable for me for shows, um, for songs, for connections, for I, like, I started to get like this team around me that really believed in me and, and was supporting me. And, and this, this year we were going to, this year, you know, you know, we, we had been meeting like early in this year and late last year and stuff. We were meeting with a lot of major labels and, um, doing that whole song and dance and, you know, and, and I was, I, my producer Cliff Downs, um, we worked on like a pitch project, which is like intended to be a record, you know, you know, at some point. And then when we were, you know, in, in negotiations with labels and, and different people like that, you know, and, and, um, and then all of a sudden the world stopped, you know? And, um, you know, I was about, I was getting, you know, had meetings with, with various people and, and, and you know, lined up, you know, show runs with like Riley Green and you know, other people, you
Speaker 1 00:45:47 Friends of mine,
Speaker 2 00:45:48 Friends of mine and stuff that were gonna bema, you know, I mean, and it still will happen. It's just gonna, I don't know when, you know, but, um, I was telling her, you know, I was telling, talking that with my producer the other day, I'm like, you know, you, I had all this momentum and different things going, and all of a sudden everything closes down, you know, and then you're just kind of like, in limbo and we have this pitch project and we're waiting to see if like, you know, a label, you know, would pick us up or, and that takes multiple meetings and like
Speaker 1 00:46:16 Yeah. That's, that's a whole, that's a whole process. An animal within itself. Yeah, that
Speaker 2 00:46:20 Is, it is. And it's that from that side to the publishing side to the all the things, you know, that go into that. And it's a long process, man. It's not like one of those things you meet and then they're like, you're great. We'll sign you right now. You know? I mean, it can't happen. It's not going to probably, yeah. You know, so, um, you know, and it's just a long process. But we were doing a lot of that and we were talking about this the other day, man. Um, you know, I I I, I'm good friends and I know you, you guys, you know, are buddies with the Musket, I bloodline, you know, folks, and I think they're so talented and I know they're in with the country Rebel Boys, which those guys are, you know, my friends too, brother.
Speaker 1 00:46:56 Yeah. Re yeah, the Rebel we're in, yeah, the Rebel, the Rebel Ranch up in, uh, Ashland City, right?
Speaker 2 00:47:01 Yeah, man. And we got, we got some, we got some, some videos that are gonna be released coming up here, um, you know, that we did and coordinated with them on and stuff. And, and those guys are just the best. Um, so we have some of those, the songs that we recorded for the pitch project we talked about, depending on when all this kind of gets out and everything starts going back in that we release a single or two, um, you know, we might have already done it, you know, I mean, if, if a lot of this kind of did, hadn't stopped, and then like everyone's kind of in a mode where they're like waiting and seeing, you know, where they're like, we just doing See you wait and see what's gonna happen Then, you know, you don't really know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 00:47:42 What's gonna happen or when you're gonna meet again or any of that stuff. And, um, I think we, yeah, we have some that, that being said, we have, I have some videos with them coming out, the Revel guys. Um, and then I have, uh, uh, some music that we're working on. I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be doing a little work with some charity, um, organizations on a song of mine Nice. Called, called American Gold. Um, and, uh, there's a lot in the works, um, but it's like, it's all like, doesn't really have a date on it yet.
Speaker 1 00:48:14 <laugh>. Alright, I gotcha. Yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 2 00:48:17 And got, we got some big announcements and one on the publishing end, um, two and some songs that are going places and things from the writer, the writer aspect. Oh yeah. Um, you know, that we're, I'm waiting to announce, I'm waiting to see what happens and um, so there's a lot up in the air man. Um, we're just right now trying to see what the world's gonna do, um, as far as just meeting with those people and if we're just gonna wait or if we're going to just release a few things independently first. Yeah. And then go from there cuz you just don't want to do the wrong thing. But
Speaker 1 00:48:51 Yeah. No, I know, dude, it, but dude, that's great that there's so much on the table right now. Like, like think like the wheels are moving right now, you know, and, and y'all are still keeping that. Yeah. Keeping as, keeping grinding as much as you can while the world is, as you've said, like stopped. So, dude, yeah, man, I'm excited for the future, bro. And I can't wait for us to all get together down in Nashville, have a night out, hang out with you and Justin and that whole crew and, um, get all of us out in Midtown together. Uh, it'll be, it'll be a hell of a time,
Speaker 2 00:49:21 Dude. It'll be great, man. And I appreciate it and I appreciate all you do, um, both you do for artists and songwriters and, and not just on the podcast end, but you know, when you guys, I met you all during the, uh, round, you know, and everything, and I met so many people doing that and, and it's, um, it's just really a great thing that y'all are doing and we really, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 00:49:42 Hey man. Oh, we, we appreciate you saying that, man. We're all about just hanging out with our buddies and, and having, having a damn good time. So five folks a good place for us to do that, man. Well, bro, thank you so much for hanging out. Where can people go to follow you and, uh, keep up to date as all these announcements start coming out?
Speaker 2 00:49:58 Amen, dude. Um, so all my, pretty much all my socials, like, um, I just started, I tried, just started like the TikTok thing. Hey, it
Speaker 1 00:50:06 Could, TikTok could be a big tool for you. Remember, you're, you're old enough, you remember Vine Vine when that shit hit. Guys like Luke, guys like Kane Brown, dudes like that. I mean, there's, there's kids on there right now that are getting millions of
Speaker 3 00:50:19 Views. And the thing that I love about TikTok the most is that it doesn't have an algorithm. So as long as you tag the for you page or the f y p in all your videos, it can show up and all of a sudden then, you know, you can wake up the next morning and have a hundred thousand views on a video and have so many followers and you just don't know what's gonna blow up. And like I said, it doesn't have an algorithm. So it's not like Facebook or Instagram where it wants you, where it closes off and wants you to pay money and all that kind of stuff. It's really just, it is the truest form of just getting exposure right now.
Speaker 1 00:50:53 Yeah. And then that translates to Instagram, translates to Spotify and as, as you start putting more shit out, people are ready for it. And there's, there go your grassroots, there go new markets for you to go to. So that's great. You're on there. What's the TikTok account?
Speaker 2 00:51:06 Uh, so TikTok is at Matt Win music. Like, I I I'm gonna make a post here within the next few days, like my first one and I, I, I had been doing, I had some friends that had been on it and were doing extremely well, um, that are, uh, awesome. I was gonna be doing some collaborations with Nice to kinda kick it off. Um, my friend Alexander Kay, um, my buddy Todd Cameron, um, and a few other people like that, that are just, like you said, there's no algorithm, you know, so some of those guys, you know, they're, it is just, they're just, it is just exploding and it's not only exploding their TikTok, but it's leaking into their Instagram and their Facebook and all that other stuff, which is great. But pretty much my Instagram, my Facebook, my Twitter, my TikTok, all that stuff, um, is at Matty Music. Um, and that's, um, m a t t w y and N M U S I C, so that's pretty much, and Spotify and iTunes, all that stuff. I got a couple of singles that I released last year up there. So, um, and then we're gonna be making some big announcements and different things coming up soon. So, um, tune in and,
Speaker 1 00:52:10 Oh yeah. So, hey, we always like to wrap this up. Usually we're doing this in person and we've got our guests playing, playing an original and things like that. Obviously we're over, we're over Skype today. Um, are you cool if we play, I was looking at your Spotify on here and, um, are you cool if we play one of these songs on here? Or if you wanna send us some Yeah, they wanna talk about a song real quick and we, we throw it on the end. It could be a work tape, a demo, um, something, something that you've got that's already out. Whatever you wanna do. If you wanna tell us about a song and then send it over to us, we can clip it on the end of this.
Speaker 2 00:52:40 Sure. Um, well, uh, you're obviously more than welcome to play the songs that are already released. Um,
Speaker 1 00:52:47 I want, I want what, what a song that you're really excited about. If it's one that's not necessarily out yet, that's even like a demo or a work tape, that'd be dope too,
Speaker 2 00:52:55 Man. I'm trying to think of one that would be a good song for that, that I, you know, wouldn't be pissing anybody off.
Speaker 1 00:53:03 Yeah, that's the thing. So, so if you're, if if you'd rather, if you'd rather us do Dangerous or Dust, we can do one of those.
Speaker 2 00:53:10 Uh, yeah, man, that would, that would probably be good for now. Um, although, I mean, I guess I could, you know, send you a work tape or something or of a, of a like a demo or something. That was fun too. Um, I don't know, I guess, I guess just play the other one for now.
Speaker 1 00:53:29 Okay. So tell us, so tell us about Dangerous What One Into Dangerous and who'd you write that one with?
Speaker 2 00:53:34 Uh, I wrote that song with Alex Dooley and Daniel Klein, um, they write a publishing company called Banner Music.
Speaker 1 00:53:40 Oh, dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2 00:53:42 Yeah. And they're really great people. And I, and they're from Missouri too. They're friends of mine. And, uh, you know, they, uh, we, we wrote that song, we were just talking about like what we were gonna write that day. And I think someone brought up like, you know how there's just some really badass women out there, you know, that and they, they're dangerous. And my cat just jumped up here, so
Speaker 1 00:54:03 I love your cat. I love the pod cat, the podcast. So we, when we first started doing the podcast, Tyler at his studio used to have, um,
Speaker 3 00:54:12 A couple of cats,
Speaker 1 00:54:12 Used to have a couple cats, and we called them the pod. So we used to have cats and you know, you know Carly Rogers, right?
Speaker 2 00:54:19 Yeah. Carly's
Speaker 1 00:54:20 A good friend of him. So Carly is petrified of Cats. Some fun fact for you, she hates cats cakes.
Speaker 2 00:54:25 Oh yeah. I guess
Speaker 1 00:54:25 She, so she ju so the Cats could I guess sense that. And one of the Cats, which was the orange one I think, um, cake was I think the name of the cat that was living at Tyler's roommate. Yeah, it was Cake. And what was the other one's name? Felix. It was Felix and Cake, these two little fat cats and cake. So those random names. Yeah. Yeah. So we were in Tyler's like basement studio that him and his roommates had in, uh, in Nashville. And Carly was sitting in the chair and then all of a sudden the cat started climbing up the chair and was like sitting on her shoulder and you could just see her like squirting.
Speaker 3 00:54:55 I think we had to stop for a minute to like get the cat off
Speaker 1 00:54:58 <laugh>. Yeah, she like was like shake. She was shaking in her shoes. It was,
Speaker 3 00:55:02 It was funny though. I think our friend Dave Hangley was there too. And then like we got a picture of Yeah, yeah, we got a picture of him like later like, you know, the like evil villain pose, just like stroking the kind of like, you know what you're doing right now,
Speaker 1 00:55:13 Like the godfather petting
Speaker 3 00:55:15 The, petting the cat. He was doing that with the cat instead. Yeah, yeah, exactly like that.
Speaker 1 00:55:19 What's what's your cat's name?
Speaker 2 00:55:21 This is Terry the Tiger.
Speaker 1 00:55:22 Terry the tiger. So you are the Tiger king.
Speaker 2 00:55:25 He's <laugh>. See we actually actually got him before the Tiger King. The whole joke on him was Terry the Tiger. Was Tony the Tiger's brother. Hey,
Speaker 1 00:55:33 There you go.
Speaker 2 00:55:34 So that was the joke. And then we have another little cat that's over here named Lily. Um, and I, and that was kind of inspired by how I met your mother. Oh, nice. <laugh>. Um, and uh, yeah, and she's, she's great. She, he's seven, um, she's only 10 months old. So my cats are weird. They're not like cats. They're like, they're dogs.
Speaker 3 00:55:54 That's my favorite cat.
Speaker 1 00:55:56 Whereas my dog, they shoot at
Speaker 2 00:55:57 The door, they flip over, she plays fetch.
Speaker 3 00:56:00 Oh, odd man. Wow.
Speaker 2 00:56:02 It's too odd. Um, and I love it cause I'm a dog, you know, I love dogs. Like I grew up with dogs and I've never had cats and, but we traveled so much and I couldn't, I couldn't really have a dog yet, you know, and, and we were like, well cats, you know, we just leave 'em food and they're take care of it in Litter Box. They'll take care of themselves if we're gone for a weekend or something. And, uh, we got cats and these cats are the, everyone that I know who has cats are like, who are these <laugh>? They're like, this is weird man. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:56:28 Love
Speaker 3 00:56:28 Felix. Felix and K are the same way.
Speaker 2 00:56:31 Yeah, there's Dogs Man that can climb walls, <laugh>, that's totally different. You know, they just awesome. Might pop up on the top of your refrigerator, um, you know, for a minute versus, you know, so he just, yeah, he will make appearances randomly when I'm like going live or something and then she, she will usually climb up behind me and just like sit, just
Speaker 1 00:56:49 Perks herself there. Oh, that's great.
Speaker 2 00:56:52 Yeah, so it's, it's it's man, there's some funny videos out there of like these, you know, when I was doing the live things, especially when I'm playing cuz I can't really stop 'em, you know, so I'm just like going and then like back behind me she'd be like knocking stuff off walls and things,
Speaker 1 00:57:08 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:57:09 And I'm just like, dude, I think there's actually one my Instagram, I posted a little clip of when I, I went live with the country Rebel Boys, um, a couple weeks ago and, and that, and they, she was up there and knocking things off the walls.
Speaker 3 00:57:22 <laugh>, she knows her opportune moments.
Speaker 1 00:57:23 Yeah, she, yeah, she knows when the camera's on.
Speaker 2 00:57:26 No, she's very smart. They're both very smart. Um, and they're probably a little too smart, um, you know, to for their own good sometimes, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's weird. Those are, those are the best kind of cats, the ones that act like dogs cuz it freaks you out. But that's really funny. I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to message Carly after this and, and tell her she has to come over and see my cats. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:57:47 Or just, just invite her over to like, come over, hey, wanna come over, um, hang out, have some pizza. Don't even tell her about the cats and then just see her reaction. Oh yeah, just get her. Yeah. If
Speaker 2 00:57:54 I tell her, if I tell her pizza and alcohol will be there, she'll
Speaker 1 00:57:57 Be there. You tell, you tell you tell her Domino's and Jack Daniels, she's in
Speaker 2 00:58:00 <laugh>. Oh, I know, I I know she's one of my oldest friends here in Nashville. I've known her. I've, uh, same thing like with me, her, me and Justin, like I've co-wrote a lot of her singles, um, with her and stuff. So it's, it's me and her. Go way back. She's,
Speaker 3 00:58:13 She's, believe it or not, that's how Matt actually met her was alcohol and pizza.
Speaker 1 00:58:18 Yeah. She was at Dog, she was at Doghouse and she and I had to watch her pizza for, I just kind of, it was like my first week in town, <laugh>. She was, she was, she was hanging out with her crew at Doghouse and she didn't trust her friends. So I started talking to her. I was like just introducing myself and then she was like, Hey, I don't really know you, but um, I'm gonna go to the bathroom, don't touch my pizza, just keep an eye. Make sure none of these assholes touch my pizza. And she was with some of her buddies and um, she came back and I didn't touch the pizza. She gave me a slice and we've been best friends ever since <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:58:46 That's sounds exactly like Carly. Um, and I know she's met many people that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:58:53 She's
Speaker 2 00:58:53 The best. Me and her, me and her have done some touring together and things like that and she's, she is no one out there like her.
Speaker 1 00:59:01 Oh, for sure. Yeah. No, absolutely. She
Speaker 2 00:59:03 Something I love her. I love her to death.
Speaker 1 00:59:04 Yeah. And some badass chick, her Allie Colline, just that whole group of just Yeah, just badass chicks. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:59:10 Ally's another one. Exactly. Badass Chicks. You know, Ali's another one that's one of my close close friends and, and, um, we've toured together, me and her too. And, and I just think the world of that whole crew there, um, and, uh, you know, this, this, this town has been very kind to me and the, and the people that I've been able to meet and, and become close with. And a lot of that was through songwriting, you know, writing people and co-writing with people.
Speaker 1 00:59:33 Hey, hey, we should get, hey, we should get a write sometime just like how we opened. We could write some time. Hey, we should write sometime. And then there you go. Lifelong friendships over there.
Speaker 3 00:59:40 All I gotta say is you're gonna hear Matt sing about three notes and run through a wall,
Speaker 1 00:59:43 So Yeah. You don't wanna hear me sing <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:59:47 Well, you know, I've never been to Delaware, so, um,
Speaker 1 00:59:50 Hey dude, yeah, we could, we have Del Delaware's dope and uh, New York. That's my homeland. I'm I'm a damn Yankee Go Yankees, go Giants and all my New York sports, but uh, but yeah man, when we get back to Tennessee, definitely all of us gotta hang for sure. Hell
Speaker 2 01:00:03 Yeah man. Let's all do it man. We'll call Carly and Allie and all them guys, it'll be great.
Speaker 1 01:00:08 Oh do, oh yeah. Lots of pi, lots of pizza and um, all you boys can drink your bourbon love. Have a damn good time.
Speaker 2 01:00:14 <laugh>. Sounds good to me man. I'm
Speaker 1 01:00:17 All about it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah man. Well thank you so much for hanging out with us. We're gonna play dangerous now. Y'all have been listening to the In the Round podcast. Make sure you check out Matt Wynn, lots of news coming in the works. Make sure you follow him on all the socials. His name Matt Wynn, music on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook now on TikTok all over the place. Tyler, where can people follow us?
Speaker 3 01:00:35 Yeah, so to follow us, just go to in the Round pod on Twitter, in the round podcast on Facebook and Instagram. We'll get working on uh, TikTok here soon enough. Matt's pretty funny so maybe we can hit gold there, but, uh oh,
Speaker 1 01:00:48 Take, oh just take me into like southern, in the southern towns and it'll just be the damn Yankee files and Yeah. People being like, you ain't from around here, are you? Because I get a lot of that when we're in middle of nowhere Alabama with my accent <laugh>. Oh dude, it's accent. We, we knew him dirty in the south. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:01:03 We, we make him meet all kinds of things. It's pretty great
Speaker 2 01:01:06 Dude. I could see that. They'll be like, where are you from boy, because I know you ain't from here.
Speaker 1 01:01:10 Oh, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 01:01:12 Well the first, so we took him out to is Boaz Alabama and Heflin Alabama, which are two very small towns in Alabama. And there was people going, are you a Christian?
Speaker 1 01:01:21 Do you know, do you know your Lord? Do you know your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? And I was like, yeah, just cuz. Just cuz I was just, cuz I'm Catholic. Don't mean, don't mean I don't know Jesus. But yeah man, yeah,
Speaker 2 01:01:31 I mean they, they get all close and they're just like, you know Jesus.
Speaker 1 01:01:34 Do you know who your Lord and Savior is? Yeah. Great, great
Speaker 2 01:01:37 Man. I'm Catholic. I'm Catholic too, so, um, yeah, so I'm from the Midwest. I'm Midwest, you know, um, Missouri and St. Louis particularly is a huge Catholic population, so yeah, I'm, I'm in the minority here too,
Speaker 1 01:01:48 So yeah, gotta love the Bible belt. But anyway, now without further ado, it's our buddy Matt Wynn here is dangerous. Y'all have been listening to the End The Round podcast.
Speaker 4 01:02:10 You can resist whiskey and glass, you'll die to One little man can quit. Blue looks so good. She can be true.
