Matt Taylor

[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt Burrill, a rage rowdy podcast. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another edition of outside the round. Today a very special guest. We told y'all we wanted to dip more into the comedy realm. We had our boy Evan Burke on back at the old studio a while back, and today we're dipping back into the comedy world. We got our boy, Mr. Matt Taylor with us. [00:00:38] Speaker B: What's up? [00:00:39] Speaker A: You were on a plane. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Last was a. That was a long travel day. It turns out like that sometimes, but we were coming all the way across from California. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Oh, what were you doing out there? [00:00:49] Speaker B: Just comedy. [00:00:49] Speaker A: Just shows? [00:00:50] Speaker B: Yeah, we had some shows with Rodney. Where were we? Fresno. And then Brooks, California, and then somewhere else. I don't know. It's crazy because whenever artists forget where they are in cities, I never understood that until I got on this tour. And now right before I go on, because I'm the one that goes on first, so I'll kind of announce the city that we're in. Every time I have to look at the production manager and be like, what city are we in? Say it back to them and then get it right. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. I used to spend a lot of time out on the road. I did the tour manager thing for a while with a guy named Trey Lewis who's become friends with Rodney. Trey had the song dick down in Dallas. Rodney was a big supporter of that early on. I've hung out with Rodney a couple times at Red Door a couple nights. He definitely does not know. And then I was out with another band called Muscadine Bloodline back in the day. Spent times living basically in a van or in a bus or having the fly dates and going around. Yeah, tour life isn't for everybody, but how long have you been out with Rodney now? It's been a little while. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Since October of 22. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah. So was that like a year? Maybe a year and some change. Yeah, it's been awesome. I mean, before that, I was doing social work for ten years. [00:02:08] Speaker A: You were a social worker? Yeah, that's what my parents. My parents actually came up doing that. [00:02:12] Speaker B: God bless them. Yeah, God bless them. Yeah. Social work for ten years, comedy for five of those ten years. And then got picked up on tour in 2022. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Fucking cool to be with a guy like Rodney caring too. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Oh, dude. Yeah. I mean, Rodney was the first comedian I ever saw live. Really? You ever heard of Tunica down in Mississippi? [00:02:37] Speaker A: I have not. I've been through Mississippi a bunch, but not the tunica. [00:02:41] Speaker B: I'm sure. A lot of people know it's like a casino city. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Okay. [00:02:45] Speaker B: And for my 21st, like, right after my 21st birthday, a lot of our buddies were like, we should go down to Tunica and gamble. And then we went down there, and the performer at the casino that weekend was Rodney. And we had listened to his music growing up, so we were like, oh, let's go to the show. So I went and watched it. I was like, damn, this is cool. This looks fun. Nine years passed before I started doing comedy, and then last year, I performed at the place where I saw him with him, which was cool. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Is that down in Biloxi? [00:03:18] Speaker B: No, Biloxi is. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Because I'm familiar with Biloxi. [00:03:21] Speaker B: Yeah. So there's Tunica and then there's Biloxi. Tunica is like. Or Biloxi is like, on the. I guess, like the gulf. [00:03:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:28] Speaker B: And then Biloxi is just kind of, like, right outside of Memphis. Yeah. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Where BP had their mess up all those years. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's Biloxi, which is the largest man made beach. I didn't know. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Really? [00:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all that sand that's there was imported in. [00:03:44] Speaker A: No shit. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Some old lady that was driving us around told us that that knew everything about Biloxi. And I was like, that kind of makes it weird, but I love Biloxi to death. But it is funny. I guess you can always judge the beach by the birds that hang out. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:58] Speaker B: So, like, in a lot of places, you have seagulls on the beach, but in Biloxi, there's pigeons all over the Jersey shore right now. [00:04:07] Speaker A: It's like parking garage shit. It's just a parking garage, but as a beach. [00:04:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Those parking garage pigeons. Because I grew up in New York, just in the suburbs outside the city, and those parking garage pigeons were fucking wild. They're fearless birds. [00:04:22] Speaker B: They don't care. I think they've been fed one too many times, so they gain a lot of trust. But, yeah, Biloxi is on the ocean front, and then Tunica is just right outside of Memphis. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Oh, cool. [00:04:33] Speaker B: So, yeah, it's an easy trip for us in Nashville. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Is that. Where are you from originally? [00:04:38] Speaker B: Originally? Murfreesboro, Tuscaloosa. Then I moved up to Murphysboro, which is like 30 minutes. [00:04:43] Speaker A: I love Teatown. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Teatown, Tuscaloosa. [00:04:46] Speaker A: I've been very lucky to have some good times at Druid City Music hall. Oh, wow. Yeah, I've been to galettes a bunch. That room, they fit a lot more people than they probably should in that room. For the college shows. [00:04:58] Speaker B: I've never performed in Birmingham, Huntsville, everywhere. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Where else mobile, Montgomery gotten to? [00:05:09] Speaker A: I've been very lucky to be, I guess be lucky, but I've gotten to go through, just through my career. Go up and down. Go up and down. 65. Yeah. And it's funny, when I was working for the Muscadine guys, they're both Auburn dudes, so they wouldn't call it ttown. But then I worked for Trey, and he's a roll tide guy. This t town rod here. Yeah. Dude, I went to. Only sec game I've been to. I went to the Iron bowl in 2022. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Nice. [00:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I had a lot of perks being with Trey. I got to go to the Iron bowl, and we sat in one of the. He had a buddy, Frankie, that had one of those company tailgate things in the quad, like one of those bougie ass tailgates. So we go to that, and then we had become Instagram very friendly with Roll Tide Willie and his crew. My first experience at an SEC football game is walking around the quad in Tuscaloosa with Trey Lewis and roll tide Willie. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Wow. [00:06:07] Speaker A: And I tell you, the chaos. We ended up hanging out with Shannara, bro. Like, I was like, I've hit the Alabama holy trinity like a successful country singer from Alabama. Roll tide Willie and Alexander Shanara in the same room. [00:06:22] Speaker B: All in one day. [00:06:23] Speaker A: All in one day, bro. It was a long day. And bama beat the hell out of them that year, too. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they did. [00:06:28] Speaker A: Is that your team? You're a bama guy? [00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I was born in. Luckily, I was, I guess, grandfathered into a dynasty, which, it wasn't fun in the earlier 90s or like the mid. [00:06:39] Speaker A: Ninety s. The Shuva days were rough. [00:06:42] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, hell, for the past. Damn. I just remember that he retired. [00:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah. It's going to be a different chapter. These kids don't know what they're. [00:06:54] Speaker B: It's been easy for us for a while. [00:06:55] Speaker A: These kids don't know what they're about to go through. And I grew up with it as the Yankees. I grew up. I was born. Derek Jeter came onto the scene. I got lucky. I was born in the mid 90s in New York. So it was like, the Yanks were good, saw the Giants win some Super Bowls, and then those first years of them not being at the top were fucking rough. So these Bama fans that are calling the Paul Feinbaum every day. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Aren't going to know. Paul Feinbaum is about to get extra interesting now with those guys, like, who was that? Harvey Updyke, back in the day. Yeah, the tree. [00:07:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Botany expert. [00:07:30] Speaker B: God, that's what we'll have to do. We'll have to go back to Auburn and ruin some more trees. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Go to. So you. So you said you were born in Tuscaloosa and then grew up. Murphysboro. [00:07:42] Speaker B: Grew up in Murphysboro. I mean, I went to elementary school, Murfreesboro High School. College. Just a one town MTSU kid. Yes. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Nice. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Go, raiders. [00:07:51] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. [00:07:52] Speaker B: Go, blue. [00:07:52] Speaker A: You've been the whiskey dicks down there. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Oh, God, yeah, I went. The old whiskey dick. Actually, the oldest one would have been stampede. That's where I got arrested when I was, like, 18. And then, yeah, whiskey dicks opened up. Free beer till eleven, which is great until you get older. Then you're like, this is the worst idea ever. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:11] Speaker B: They should have never done this, but, yeah. God, I've had a lot of nights I don't remember at Whiskey dicks, so that's fun. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Murphysboros. Murfreesboro is a very, like, in the national scope, like an underrated kind of college town. If you live in Nashville, if you live in middle Tennessee long enough, you understand it gets a little wild down there because it's not just the college kids, it's the locals in Murray county, the nearby. [00:08:37] Speaker B: Everybody blends together in county. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Like, it gets a little wild down there with the townies. The townies of Murfreesboro at the college mixed with the college kids, make it a little extra wild. [00:08:47] Speaker B: I was both. I was a townie and a college kid, so that was a fun. It was a great place to grow up. I hated on it, growing up, but the older I get, I'm just like, Murfreesboro's great. [00:08:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:57] Speaker B: I got nothing against it. So I guess that is kind of how your hometown is. You grow up. Like, I want to get away from it. Then you wake up when you get older and you're like, this is great. [00:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I used to wish that New York City would float away to England. [00:09:10] Speaker B: Really? [00:09:10] Speaker A: I was like. It was just the traffic, everything being so expensive, the chaos. I would really go there for school field trips, for Yankee games or Rangers games and shit like that, or concerts. But then now living down here for about six, seven years, like, it changes your whole. You're like, oh, shit, New York City is like one of the. [00:09:34] Speaker B: You feel like. You. Like the pace of New York City. Yes. As opposed to. Because I know I went up there. What was that last year for a weekend of comedy and everything was so fast. The transportation is phenomenal. I wish we had that here in Nashville. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Do you imagine a train system going along I 65? [00:09:54] Speaker B: That would be great. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Going along 24? [00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, all of it mates. Like, I never understood it until I got out there. I was like, oh, this is great. I understand why people love this city now, but, God, like, the pace of going there and then coming back to Nashville, I'm like, oh, we have no time frame here. We'll get there when we get there. [00:10:10] Speaker A: End of the day means end of the week in the south. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's something I learned real quick. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Especially coming from radio and stuff and being in the media scene in New York to now, what I get to do down here, it is very different. It's starting to swing a little bit, though, where it is getting a little faster down here than I'm sure it was. Especially when you were growing up. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, dude, Nashville and, like, I guess in my high school years was, I mean, you could go park downtown anywhere, go drink on a rooftop before you go to a bar. It was a lot of fun, but it still is. It's just insanely. I don't go downtown that much anymore. So busy. If I do, it's normally like somebody's birthday, a wedding, or something like that. [00:10:49] Speaker A: It's a special occasion. My favorite is when friends come into town and they're like, yeah. I'm like, fuck, I got to go. Got to strap up, and I gotta put the chin strap on. I gotta go. When I first moved here, I was a door guy at, I worked security on, so my first taste of Nashville was being a Broadway boy. [00:11:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, you see people because in New York, you really don't see that. That's what I noticed about why I like, their whole downtown is in New York. You really don't see people. Just slews of people, just blackout drunk. Yeah, you'll see people that are drunk here and there and having a good time. But, like, in Nashville, when you go downtown, I mean, it's like zombie apocalypse of just people just snake eyed everywhere they go, just shark eyed or whatever, just gone. How long have you been in Nashville? [00:11:41] Speaker A: I moved October of 2018, and my first week was, it was Halloween weekend, and I came down here and I had buddies that were in the music scene in Jersey, and they were all working at Whiskey Row. Because when you come down here for music, you get, I guess, comedy too. Or, like, you move here and you're down here for something, but you're not quite there yet. You pick up whatever job you can. You work at Outback Steakhouse or bounce on Broadway or drive the pedal taverns or do this or do that. So I was just hanging out at Whiskey row the Saturday of Halloween weekend, and then my buddy comes up to me, he's like, hey, they're ready for you. I'm like, what do you mean? And they're like, well, here's a radio. Like, time to go to work. I never bounced today in my life, and I'm at one of the highest at this point. Albines isn't around yet. Luke Bryan's isn't around. Like, it was like, whiskey row and Fgl house were, like, the two big artist bars at that point. And they handed me a radio, gave me a polo, I signed a little waiver, and I was bouncing, and I had my first kick out, like, an hour in. And I don't know if you've ever been in whiskey row. Yeah, there's that level that's just bathrooms. Like, the third floor. Oh, yeah, it's the place with all the fucking stairs, bro. It's like 200 stairs to get to the rooftop. It's a building that shouldn't be a bar, but is a bar. And I was up in the bathroom level, and I saw guys doing some nose beers in the bathroom, and I was like, all right, they can't be doing this. So I radioed up a couple of our guys came, jacked them up, and then pocketed the bag, and I was like, oh, so that's how this works. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Welcome to Nashville. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Welcome to Nashville. [00:13:15] Speaker B: I'm surprised they could kick out people that were tuded to the gills. Cocaine makes a person very. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Oh, well, these guys, it was like, I was. The smallest guy was my budy Dave, who was the guy that really got me to move down here. He did music up in Jersey. Still is in the music world down here out on the road with folks doing tour management and stuff. And he used to work security at Lincoln Financial Field where the Eagles play. [00:13:41] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:13:42] Speaker A: So I was like, all right, he's got experience. And then all the other guys were, like, retired military, retired law enforcement, trained MMA fighters. We wouldn't have them for, like, a week or two because they'd be out in Vegas fighting or, like, the guys that didn't pass the combine or the test to get into the NFL. And then there was me. [00:14:01] Speaker B: I just got bounced by Michael Chandler, bro. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, dude. It was a wild time to be down there, and it was, like, just chaos because you would see that the pedal Taverns come in. I was there for the NFL draft. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:14:19] Speaker A: That shit was wild. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Damn. [00:14:20] Speaker A: You have every NFL team fan base in town. [00:14:23] Speaker B: Oh, God. [00:14:24] Speaker A: And they all don't like. They all don't like each other, and. [00:14:27] Speaker B: They'Re all at your bar, and then Titans fans are like, we're here. At least we hosted it, right? [00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, it's going to be weird. No Mike Brahble this year. [00:14:39] Speaker B: I know it's weird. Like, both of my teams got rid of their head coach, and I'm just like, who's your. [00:14:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Bama and Titans. It's going to be an interesting year, that's for sure. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Are you a big sports guy? [00:14:51] Speaker B: Not really. I mean, I played baseball growing up, my whole life. Love college football. Probably more than pro. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a southern thing, for sure. [00:15:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And then golf. I like golf. And then UFC. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Nice. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Or MMA. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah, that was. I promise this isn't just going to be talking about Broadway, but when I was, the worst night we ever had at Whiskey rail was the first time they did UFC at Bridgestone. And a bunch of. [00:15:21] Speaker B: That was Khabib fought that night. [00:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Yeah, Khabib and what's the showtime, Anthony? Showtime. I mean, they didn't find each other, but they were both on the card. [00:15:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Because after the fight, they all booked VIP tables at the different bars on Broadway. So we had a whole club level full of UFC fighters. And the worst part was the guys that went to the fight, the wannabe UFC fighters, and that night, the DJs downtown and at the clubs, what they'll do is if there's, like, a big issue, they'll flip on the lights and play, like, Garth Brooks. The dance to get the club to die down. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:56] Speaker A: So that was one of the nights. [00:15:58] Speaker B: Watching a fight here in Brooks. [00:15:59] Speaker A: Oh, dude, it was crazy, dude. I remember just jumping on top of a guy and just holding him down and just being like, oh, God, I hope. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Like a rodeo, dude. [00:16:09] Speaker A: It was like a scene at a legit. Or, like, the scene out of Yellowstone where rip and all them go in there. It was just. UFC night on Broadway was not my favorite, but we survived. We got through it. [00:16:24] Speaker B: That's crazy. I always wonder what it'd be like to be a bouncer, period. [00:16:28] Speaker A: There are some perks because I was. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Easy to kick out. I'm a small guy. One time I got kicked out. Two times I got kicked out of a bar. I mean, it was just shirt color. And you're gone. I'm like, yeah, my bad. [00:16:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I like too drunk. I liked being a part of the superman carry where you're walking the guy down the stairs and then you see him cock back to hit your buddy. That's like, in front. So what you do is you just radio real quick, and then you grab his legs, he falls. The guy catches him before he hits the floor, and you just carry him out like Superman. Like he's flying. [00:16:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Then lay him outside, put the zip tie on him, wait for Metro to come pick him up. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Oh, shit. Y'all can zip tie in certain places. [00:17:04] Speaker A: In certain situations if you had to. [00:17:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:06] Speaker A: Better than them causing more of a. Causing a ruckus on the street once you get them out there. [00:17:10] Speaker B: Dude, when I got arrested at what happened? So I guess somebody spit in a bouncer's face or something happened, and I think they thought it was me. And I was like, literally just chilling up against the dance floor, watching my budies have fun, just like, arms crossed. And I know where somebody just reaches across my neck, jerks me over the railing, drags me outside, and two bouncers, and one of them sits on my shoulders, and then one of them has my legs and sits on my legs, and the other one's just, like, shoving my head into the gravel. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I don't know what's going on. So I get up, obviously pissed off, and try to go at one of them. And the second I do, like, officer. I'm not going to say his name, but an officer in Murphysboro steps in front of me. He's like, we're not doing that. And so I start cussing him out and saying, what happened? Because I'm so just thrown off. Like, I just got this shit beat out. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Are you even drunk at this point? [00:18:12] Speaker B: I mean, I was tipsy, but not, like, intoxicated. No, I remember all of it perfectly. And then the officer pushes me back. And I didn't go at the officer, but I was still kind of like, just not in his face, but trying to be like, get fucking them. [00:18:31] Speaker A: They just beat the shit out of you. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Just watched this happen. [00:18:34] Speaker A: Where's the cameras? Let's watch the replay. [00:18:35] Speaker B: And then the officer mule kicks me in the chest, and as soon as I hit the ground, the other officer grabs me up, they put me in cuffs, and then I go to jail for public intux. Yeah, dude. Both times I got arrested, I feel like it wasn't my fault that time. Obviously, I could have been less aggressive, so that was probably my fault. But what initiated it? I don't know. And then the first time I got an underage, we were, like, partying outside of Sonic. We would go there and small town shit. Yeah. Drop tailgates at sonic and just get drunk there. And our buddy comes up in his truck, and he's like, hey, I'm about to go fight this guy at this house party. So I'm like, all right, well, I'll go watch. I'm bored. It's Friday night, so we pull up to the party, and there's a ton of people in this party, and I'm like, I'm just going to chill outside and drink a beer. I don't really feel like doing that. So I have, like, a six pack on me or whatever, and the cops end up showing up, and they're, like, going around asking everybody who's been drinking or whatever, and we're here for a fight, and he gets to me, and I'm fine. I think I'd had, like, maybe three beers at that point. And he's like, all right, well, once your ride gets here, because you can't leave with the guy that came to fight or whatever. So once your ride gets here, you can go. I was like, all right, cool. So my buddy pulls up in his truck, and as I'm getting in, the two girls that were with us are, like, in the backseat. And I see the cop talking to them, and he's, like, pointing at me, and I'm just like. And as soon as I'm crawling up into the truck, he's like, hey, why don't you come on back down here? So I get down there, and he's like, I thought you said you weren't drinking tonight. I'm like, I'm not. And he goes, well, whose case is that in the back of the car? And it was the girls. And I was like, it's not mine. I don't know. He's like, so you can pass a breathalyzer? And I'm just like, no, probably not. Because, I mean, I'm underage in this if I blow anything. So I end up doing a breathalyzer. I don't pass, and I don't have my ID on me. I left it in my truck at Sonic, so they end up taking me to jail. I'm in there for, like, 13 hours. But again, was I underage drinking? Yeah, but I got arrested because two girls were like, oh, that's his beer. That's y'all's beer. You take the rap and go to jail. [00:20:58] Speaker A: You were the fall guy. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And then my buddy, who was like, a prominent basketball, high school basketball player, this was our senior year, so he had just gotten done with his senior season. Meanwhile, he's got, like, a baseball bat outside of this fight, like, waiting to hit somebody with a bat, and the cop shows up. He's like, I heard someone who's six eight had a baseball bat. And he goes, I don't know what you're talking about. He's like, dude, come on. He's like, I know who you are. He's like, get out of here. I'm like, okay, so if I was dunking on people, I'd be going free, but since I had a three beer buzz, I'm going to jail. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Justice for the five man folks. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Justice for us short people, man. He's like, you got short man syndrome. You need to calm down. He had a bat, dude. He was about to kill somebody. [00:21:43] Speaker A: He had intent. Yeah, he was ready to fucking. [00:21:45] Speaker B: I mean, sure, he was putting up triple doubles, like, a couple of months ago, but that doesn't matter now. That's the two times I got arrested, which is funny, because I'm, like, the most calm one in our family, and I'm the only one that's been arrested as an know, there's your street cred. Yeah, all right, I got that out of the way. Got a rap, so. But that's how bouncers in Murphysboro, I worked at a bar as a barback for a summer and I watched bouncers. I mean, really get after some people where you're like, I don't know. I don't think that's legal. Probably going to get sued for that. And that bar closed down, like six months later. Yeah, that'll happen if you worked in it. You know, people take the opportunity and you're just like, yeah, dang. Yeah. [00:22:34] Speaker A: My specialty more than kickouts was fake iDs. I used to catch them and I'd collect them, like Pokemon cards. Yeah, me and my buddies had a binder and we had the IDs organized by state and we would have them all, like, collecting. [00:22:47] Speaker B: I'd get, like, just a bunch of McLovins. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. We'd get like ten to 15 a day sometime of different kids trying to try their best was when they tried to come in with their parents and they'd have a fake id and then the parents would get all pissed because they're like, I bought that for. And I'm like, okay, you want to go tell the. Go ask the cop to make me give it back to you. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah. What's, like, the telltale sign of, like, a fake iD? [00:23:10] Speaker A: Depends. Each state's different. So, like, the Tennessee, the back of the Tennessee, the T and the N on the website, the T and the N are connected. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Are connected or connected. [00:23:21] Speaker A: I think it's the T and the N or the E. I'll have to look real quick. It's one of them. Like the T and the n. If. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Any underage people are listening to this podcast or is it the a, really pay attention. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Oh, that's what it is. It's the A and the t. And I hereby certify that you see how the a and the t are connected and the a and the t and date are connected. Where it says date, the a and the t are connected. So on the fake ones, the a and the t weren't connected. Oh, that's how I would find the fake tennessees. Yeah. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Damn. [00:23:51] Speaker A: And then there'd be certain IDs where you shine a hologram through it. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Where there are certain Ids where you would shine like a flashlight and it would post the hologram one way. And then if it didn't do that or it was like some written with a Sharpie fucking holograph, I'd be like, see you later, kid. I'd put it in my pocket. [00:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I learned 21. [00:24:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I learned all those tricks. [00:24:13] Speaker B: How easy was it to tell were there? Everyone's really like, damn, I think they might have got me. Because first of all, my buddy found an ID when we were, he was 19 or 20, and our friend found a fake or found an ID and somebody left in a club that happened to look exactly like our buddy. [00:24:33] Speaker A: Oh, cool. [00:24:33] Speaker B: So he just had somebody else's ID for like two years. That was like an actual ID that looked identical to him. [00:24:42] Speaker A: Yeah, we'd call those misrepres for those would. Those would be the ones that would work more than the fake ones. I just remember seeing some, like a North Carolina ID because that has some pink in it and it would be like red and yellow like a damn Pokemon card. And I just put that in my pocket. Like, this time of year is when it gets really crazy because all the northern schools, instead of going to the beaches, they come to Nashville for their spring breaks. So, like, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, northeast, all the New York people, like where I'm from, they all come to Nashville now and spend their spring breaks. [00:25:17] Speaker B: What do you think of coming to Nashville for spring break? [00:25:19] Speaker A: Dude, you got 100 bars and live music in a 1 mile radius. [00:25:23] Speaker B: I just don't even think about that because this beach, we're like, you go. [00:25:26] Speaker A: To PCB and I've had great times down there, too. I love me some Panama city. We did a spring break show years ago. It was actually, like, during the COVID I did a lot of touring during COVID It was that scene where you're at the shows and it's packed to the gills and you just don't. [00:25:40] Speaker B: Florida? [00:25:41] Speaker A: Yeah, Florida, Texas, Georgia, Alabama. We did one bro, at the sliding ride in Martin, Tennessee. [00:25:48] Speaker B: Wow. [00:25:49] Speaker A: Martin, Tennessee. And there were 1400 people in that motherfucker. It was nuts. But we couldn't post any of the videos because it was like January of 21, December of fun. [00:25:58] Speaker B: You felt like you were like, in a prohibition era, dude. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like the underground. It was like really cool. But we did a spring break show with the student escape when I was with Trey and it was Trey opening up and it was Jack Harlow and Afroman and like a foam party and all this shit. You're just looking around like, what is going on, right? Is the spring break after COVID. And it was just chaos. [00:26:23] Speaker B: It was nuts. I remember when we went to Florida, went to Panama City, like the summer of 2020. I mean, it was right during everything and even tennis. Tennessee was pretty, like, we didn't really shut down that much. We shut down for a short time. But, dude, we got to Florida just because we thought this is the perfect time to go. Nobody's going to be there. We'll get a nice condo. We get down there and I'm like, oh, I don't think anybody even told this state that there's a pandemic. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Hell, no, we ain't closing. [00:26:52] Speaker B: I was like, oh, we're all getting COVID for sure. And nobody did. So who knows? [00:26:57] Speaker A: I got it in Texas in December of 2020, and I had COVID. I was stuck home during. I was stuck. What I mean by home, the room I was staying in an antioch, which we can get on a whole thing about the different places of Tennessee. Antioch is a very interesting place. [00:27:10] Speaker B: La. Lower Antioch. [00:27:11] Speaker A: La yeah, the other know, you got Los Angeles, Louisiana, lower Alabama, and then you got lower Antioch. It's crazy there. But I was stuck there during with COVID Like, I was sick as fuck during Christmas. We went, did some shows in Texas and then came back. And I was in Antioch the Christmas morning when the RV blew up on Second Avenue. Yeah, I remember being like, oh, shit. And then they showed where that guy allegedly lived and it was like a block away. Like, off Murphysboro. Thank God it blew up over there. Hopefully, it didn't blow up at all. Luckily, nobody was crazy about that. We never found the real story about why that happened. Yeah, all kind of got swept. [00:27:53] Speaker B: That was also by the. At T Tower. [00:27:55] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:56] Speaker B: And at t just lost service to thousands of. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they were, like, people talking about, like, election machines because that was, like, right after the. [00:28:08] Speaker B: Them. [00:28:08] Speaker A: They were like, yeah, this is where Georgia's election machines came from or something. There were all these conspiracies about it, and then it just got swept under the rug. And Second Avenue was left in shambles. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I had a friend. Her apartment got blown out. I think her cat got blown out in the streets, too, and she had to look for it forever. And she didn't live there anymore, that's for sure. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Nobody. It's starting to come back, though. Or Second Avenue. But it was weird because there's, like, that music that was, like, playing that downtown song music and then played this voice saying, leave, get out, leave. It didn't want to hurt people. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Budy worked at one of the hotels on that same street, and he was the guy that had to get everybody out. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [00:28:54] Speaker B: And you can see him on the outside telling somebody to go get cover. And then you see in the background just. And he's like, not that far from it. Yeah, he was on the news about it and everything. Shout out. He's a comedian, Tanner. [00:29:07] Speaker A: Oh, cool. [00:29:07] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, it's funny because you'll see him just, like, sitting there telling people to get out, and then you see a giant explosion, like, down the street right by him. I was like, oh, shit. [00:29:19] Speaker A: Merry Christmas, Nashville. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, all of that, because that was. [00:29:24] Speaker A: That was December of 2020. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Was it. [00:29:27] Speaker A: That was a COVID. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Was it 2021 or. [00:29:30] Speaker A: That was 2020? [00:29:32] Speaker B: That was right before COVID busted loose, I guess. [00:29:35] Speaker A: No. So COVID busted loose September or March of 2020 around St. Patrick's Day. Remember Rudy Gobert, the basketball. [00:29:45] Speaker B: Tornado? Oh, yeah. Rudy was the one touching the mic. [00:29:53] Speaker A: It was tornado destroys East Nashville. Then a week later, the world shuts down. Then you have the political movements of the George Floyd stuff, and all that shit happened over the summer. Then you have the election and all the chaos leading up to the election. Then you have that Christmas as the bomb. Yeah, 2020 was a hell of a year, bro. [00:30:15] Speaker B: It's so weird because we're, what, four years almost removed from. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Yeah, we're coming up March. Yeah, we're, like, four years to the date. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Almost of last COVID, because it feels like 2020 was still last year. Yeah, it paused something where every year that goes by, I'm like, it still feels like the world shut down last year. [00:30:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:32] Speaker B: But what a wild time. [00:30:35] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, I always say the last six months of COVID was, like, some of the best memories of my life, because I went up to Delaware. My family, they got, like most New Yorkers do. They once the kids grow up, you get out of New York. That's the trick. You go there, you have the good schools, and then you're like, I don't want to pay this money in taxes. And you go somewhere like Delaware, where there are no taxes. So that's where my family's at now, but I spent some time living up there. Then I have an aunt and uncle that have a horse farm or that have a farm with some horses on it in east Tennessee. So I stayed out there with them, and then I started coming back June of 2020 and started doing our events that we host, and we were full bore events at Live Oak. We definitely should have gotten shut down, but we didn't because we were cool with everybody, but just getting to meet the friends, hanging out at the house parties, getting to all the dick down in Dallas stuff with Trey, all of that happened from July, August of 2020 through the end of the year. That last third or last quarter of the year was just, for me, just hanging out with everybody. And it's like, now that we're back, obviously you want to be back to real life. Were you doing comedy at that point? [00:31:38] Speaker B: So, yeah, I started comedy in December of 2017. And, yeah, I guess everything shut down. I remember because I was at comedy bar when we were watching the NBA game. We were, like, sitting in the bar while the show had just ended, and we were just sitting there having a drink, and we look up and everybody's just, like, leaving the court, and they're like. They just announced, like, NBA season was canceled. [00:32:05] Speaker A: Yeah, in the middle of a game. That was wild. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Like, the whole season was canceled. I'm just like, hold on, wait, what? That's where everybody's like, what's going on? That's where everybody started to take it serious before, like, yeah, whatever. The flu is coming. And it's funny because I did a show for. I did Dusty's show at Zany's. [00:32:22] Speaker A: Oh, cool. [00:32:23] Speaker B: On, like, March 2 or February, late four. And it was just on the news, and I made some hack joke about the coronavirus. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Everybody was doing that. [00:32:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it was like, something like, yeah, the coronavirus that's just the excuse I tell my boss when I'm too hungover to come to. Like, I got a coronavirus. And then, like, a week later, it's like, oh, the world shut down because of that coronavirus. [00:32:49] Speaker A: That thing that started in China, hit the west coast, then hit New York, and then just. [00:32:53] Speaker B: But comedy paused for, like, I don't mean maybe a month. I think I stopped. And then we immediately started doing, like, online mics, which was terrible. Yeah. Then we did outside shows. Like, I booked a mic in south of Murfreesboro that was just at some dude's house on his back patio. Just doing an open mic once a week. Yeah. And then we did outdoor show, like a secret show at these people's farm property, which was very cool. That was a lot of fun. Shout out to them for letting us do that. And then comedy bar slowly opened back up, and it was downtown started opening back up, but every show was like, here's four people, here's five. And so it was a struggle for a while, but, I mean, the stage time was, honestly, I think it helped me a lot. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Nashville was one of the few comedy scenes that was able to function right. [00:33:57] Speaker B: For a. I mean, but everything shut down there for, like, a few months, and then it just started opening. Like, I remember Zany's would have, like, if you've been to you, they cram as many people in as you can. Then I remember the first time I went back, tables were, like, so far apart, and only certain amount of people could be in there. So such a weird thing to have done Zany before and then see that with the tables like that. This is a whole new material. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Monday was a whole different vibe. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't even know if they had that yet, but, yeah, that, and then, like, comedy bar, you'd literally have, like, one table of, like, four people in front of you for, like, a whole show. This is the most catered show you're ever going to get. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:44] Speaker B: Everybody's going to look at you, you're going to get talked to. But it was good because, I mean, I think that year is probably the year that I grew the most in comedy because it was the hardest. So I had to learn how to talk to people. I couldn't just tell these jokes. Like, I had to divert from them. If the jokes weren't going good, I had to make sure that the show was going good. Yeah, there's a lot of growth during that year. [00:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like everybody grew a lot during that year because you kind of had to or you had to pivot to something else. [00:35:11] Speaker B: I mean, honestly, if you didn't suffer seriously from the illness or pass from it. A lot of people seemed to have very good years in those moments, like, grew a lot. You spent a lot of time with family. Everything paused. Some people. I still had to go to work because I worked at, like, a medical facility, which sucked. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Yeah, medical facility during COVID not recommended. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Because to this day, if I got COVID, it would have been March 9. I remember because we had a show. It was like our last show that we had a local show, and I was just sick as hell. Couldn't smell, couldn't taste and all that. And then I was sick for like a week. And then I think I've been tested, like, 25 or more times now and just never tested positive. But my job, when it first started out, if you tested positive, you had 14 days off and they were still paid days because it was some kind of, like, emergency, whatever that was during. [00:36:12] Speaker A: The Trump bucks era, too. [00:36:14] Speaker B: The stimmies, dude. Yeah. And then it was like, if you were on unemployment or whatever, you were getting paid more than I was for being up there working. And I remember I would start feeling sick, go get tested. Like, I'm about to get two weeks off. Nice. And then it just wouldn't test positive. And then somebody that was also doing my job would just test positive and get two weeks off. I'm like, God dang it, I'm just getting more work. I hate this. But, yeah, that was a wild time. Yeah, COVID was just. I don't know. I don't want to say I enjoyed it, but I kind of refocused on a lot of things that matter, like spending time with family and friends and making the most of lockdown, whatever that was. [00:37:03] Speaker A: Yeah, honestly, that's how it was for me, too. [00:37:06] Speaker B: It's a good thing you were down here, though, dude. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Thank God. That's what I joke with people when I see somebody else that's, like, from New York, that'll come down to one of our events that we do. Or like, I bump into somebody like, oh, you're from New Orleans Park. I'm like, yeah, I moved down here BC before COVID I lucked out. I got out of here before the Blasio Cuomo stuff started getting crazy. I really got out of New York at a good freaking time. That late 2018 was a cush time to get out of New York and to get down here. Because since even in the years that I've been here, Nashville's changed so much. The whole skyline is different from when I moved here. We didn't have that whole foods on fucking. On Broadway. [00:37:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Was it the fifth and Broadway? [00:37:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that. Yeah, dude, like, there's that whole area. The goal. [00:37:49] Speaker B: What was there before? I don't even remember now. [00:37:51] Speaker A: Before fifth and broad, it was just a parking lot. It was either a parking lot or just like an open. I remember when they started building that shit next to the rhyme and it was just. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. The construction down there is nuts. Now everybody's got a bar down there. [00:38:05] Speaker B: It's crazy. Just if you think about going to shows at the Ryman, how much space and openness there was around it to where is now. Just like crowded all the way up to, like, there's. [00:38:16] Speaker A: And you saw what's going in behind whiskey row, right? Wallen's got a. Morgan Wallen spent a lot of time during COVID getting kicked out of the bars. And he was like Mr. Broadway. He was a part of that underground movement. You go to a bar during COVID you'd see Morgan and those guys out. And now Morgan's got his own bar coming. Five story bar in between whiskey row. And the rhyme in that little parking lot that was behind whiskey row. Yeah, it's right back. Right up to that alley. Five stories. [00:38:49] Speaker B: Oh, my. [00:38:50] Speaker A: It's going to be chaos. The kids getting kicked out of there. Yeah, it's going to be wild. Dude, do you go out at all? What part of town do you hang out? [00:38:58] Speaker B: Not anymore. I mean, I get out if I'm out in Nashville, I'm typically at Zany's watching a show. Even if I'm not on the show. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Just being around the scene. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Or doing mics. So a lot of mics are like, in East Nashville. Or I'll go out in East Nashville because it's just more local, chill spot. [00:39:18] Speaker A: More your kind of vibe. [00:39:19] Speaker B: Yeah, because I'm 36 now, so I'm over the party scene. Yeah, but make no mistake, I used to get down, used to get arrested at bars. I was cool. But yeah, now it's just work. I don't know, because it's fun. Comedy is the greatest thing in the world to me. [00:39:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:41] Speaker B: But it is a job and I treat it like that. So even on my off days, I don't know if it's something that you love. It doesn't feel like work to me. But if I have tonight or probably tomorrow night, Wednesday. I've got a show Wednesday night. This is my week off from tour, but I'm still doing stuff locally as much as I can to just. I don't know. But it's the only job where, like, oh, this is also like a hang. [00:40:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:07] Speaker B: So if you're at the mics after I get done, I'll have a beer or something and just hang out and drink and shoot the shit. But, like, going downtown, dude, I don't go unless it's a special occasion. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that's how I am, too. I spend a lot of time in Midtown because we host our. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Midtown is a lot of fun. [00:40:25] Speaker A: We host our events at Live Oak. We do the rusty nail. You've been to the rusty nail? [00:40:29] Speaker B: I knew that I haven't. [00:40:30] Speaker A: That place is what the local bar in Hermitage would feel like. $3 beers. It's like our creative circus, where we can kind of do whatever we want, like, music wise. And we have a cool. They have a humidor in there for cigars. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Nice. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Like the owner, Tommy. We do a cigar and whiskey event called rhythm and smoke there once a month. We have fun over there. It's a good. [00:40:56] Speaker B: Do you smoke cigars? [00:40:57] Speaker A: Big cigar guy. Yeah. [00:40:58] Speaker B: I wish I'd have known. So we host a monthly show. The first show that I ever put on me and Nick Bush is in Murphysboro. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw that. That was smoking jokes. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah. At liquid smoke. And right next door, liquid smoke is the humidor, which is just like this giant humidor with cigars. So it's a cigar bar. [00:41:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:17] Speaker B: I wish I'd have known. I would have brought you. [00:41:19] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I wish I would have known, because we have a deal with crowned heads. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Cool. [00:41:22] Speaker A: Very rowdy. So we're members over at Smokers Abbey in East. We spend a lot of time over there myself, Nikki T. My business partner, and then Curto zon, who. He's one of the guys. He plays all things with strings in Luke Combs band. He's Luke's utility player. You've probably seen him over there. He's like a very East Nashville kind of guy. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Do you know Mark and Sawyer? I think both do. They run a show over there? [00:41:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we hang out at the abbey. At the Abbey quite a bit. And, yeah, we're big. I always tell people I was smoking cigars with my dad before I was drinking beer with my dad, just growing up, like cigars. And I'll do, like, three or four. [00:42:02] Speaker B: In, like, a sitting and then be hurt. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I smoke them. I really smoke because I used to be a pack and a half of cigarettes. A. Like, when I got off drinking, I was just all things like, I'm into this whole Zinn thing right now. They were trying to ban that. Schumer, another shout out New York politician was trying to ban this. He was trying to ban zins. I think just because the Nelk boys did a special with Tucker Carlson about Tucker Carlson being a big Zinn guy. So Schumer was just like, oh, Carlson fucks in trying to get after it. But yeah, we're big cigar guys. Another thing I think you and I have in common, because I've seen it on your feed, you're a big butt rock guy as well. [00:42:39] Speaker B: A big butt rock. [00:42:42] Speaker A: No, not butt stuff. I don't know. You like that, dude. So we run that account, that butt rock night page. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:42:53] Speaker A: On Instagram. That's a raise. Rowdy thing. So, yeah, we were flying down to the Key West Songwriters festival a couple years ago, and we're up in the sky in a few different ways. And we were sitting in Atlanta on our layover, and some of our budies, Brian Frazier, our budies, Dean Mikey, who play a lot downtown, were like, why haven't you guys done a butt rock night like, you guys do all these? Because we host a lot of writers rounds. We do a lot in the country music space. Rowdy, they're like, why don't we just do a night where everybody just plays Creed and limp Biscuit and hinder and saliva nickelback three doors down? Like, why don't we just do that? So we did that. We ended up doing a night at Live Oak, and we had all these big country artists covering butt rock songs. [00:43:34] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:43:35] Speaker A: And we've done a couple of them now, and they're some of our favorite nights. But Brian made the account butt rock night, and it's him and Nikki T making those memes. And we've had Scott Stapp commenting on them, which was just electric. The razor outdy account is like 56 or 57,000 right now. The butt rock accounts are almost ninety k. The butt rock account is bigger than the razor Audi account, which we love. And it's just all those bands. [00:43:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny because it starts out as almost like a joke. And then the more you listen, like, this shit kind of rocks. [00:44:05] Speaker A: This shit really rocks. And I equate it to back when I was in radio. And this probably isn't the right term, but this is my spin zone of butt rock, like, where the term came from. You're like, oh, it's butt rock. It sucks. Like Marin Morris called Jason al Dean. He's like, she said that Jason Al Dean is butt rock. Like, meaning it in a derogatory term. But I say it like back when the buz like one of the greatest rock stations in the country, 129 the buz here in Nashville, locally owned the great. I'm sure back in the day, one of their monikers was 129 the buzz. Nothing but rock. Back in those days, all the radio stations were nothing but rock. So that, to me is where the term butt rock comes from. Because it's that Woodstock 99 era. It's the early days of Bonneroo and bamboozle and those big kind of festivals. It's those bands. Who doesn't love late 90s, early 2000s hard rock. And it stretches to the three days grace guys and hailstorm evanescence. There's some good shit in there that is crazy. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Butt rock. It's like butterface. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Butt rock. [00:45:10] Speaker B: Butt rock. [00:45:10] Speaker A: Butt rock. Yeah. We have a merch line, too. We'll have to get you some of our butt rock shirts because we have one Nikki t, my business partner, we did a bit with Nikki t getting a butt rock tattoo on his ass. So he has butt rock tattooed on his butt, which is full dedication to the bit we do stuff with. Like, we fuck around with like four loco and we'll make memes that are like, this is me, six locos deep at Chili's karaoke or dollarita night at the Applebee's singing creed. They're like fun meme memes that we make on there and stuff. Yeah, butt rock night. I'm sure you might be following it already because we've had Fred Durst share stuff from there. Like the fact that Fred Durst shared a meme of we put Elvis. It was like a video of Elvis over break stuff or like break stuff over an Elvis performance. And it matched up perfectly. Fred Durst shared it to his story and that was like a big moment for us in our butt rock journey. Yeah, dude, we've got tickets to see Creed. [00:46:16] Speaker B: We're going Bridgestone. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Yep. Creed. Well, they're at Bridgestone and they're at. Dude, that Creed stuff has blown up so fucking much. They're playing at Ascend Amphitheater in August, and then they're coming back and playing at Bridgestone. How many acts can sell out the amphitheater in a town like the shed in a town and then come back three months later with a full arena tour that sells out Creed? It's Tremoni and stap, bro. Tremoni stap 2024. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what we need. Yeah, I did. I'm so excited. [00:46:49] Speaker A: And you're a little bit older than I am, so you really remember the heyday of rocking out. [00:46:55] Speaker B: It's funny because everybody started hating on, like, nickelback and Creed, and you kind. [00:47:00] Speaker A: Of fall and limp Bizkit. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And you. Yeah, it's gay. It sucks. And then you get older, you're like, why did I ever go against them? They're all I love now. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Because that whole thing about. Did you ever see the story about me, the fake creed event? [00:47:18] Speaker A: No. You did a fake. We got to get. If you do this again, we want in. [00:47:25] Speaker B: I think this was, like, 2016. I guess something that was popular on Facebook was people would create a fake event where a bigger artist was coming, and then the day of, they would change it to their event. So all these people would have been interested, and then they would still go, because all these people were interested in this event or, like, going. And then the day of, they switch it, the title or the thing to like, oh, it's me here, or whatever. I didn't even realize people were doing that. I just saw people, like, posting these insane events that weren't true. So I was like, all right, I'm going to create a fake creed concert at the Kmart parking lot in Smyrna, Tennessee. I did it back in, like, I mean, it was probably, like, January of 2016, and set it for, like, it was, like, a Monday. Let me see. It's called the Creed arms still wide open tour. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Dude, that's awesome. [00:48:32] Speaker B: Bring it up. [00:48:33] Speaker A: Creed in the Kmart. And I used to live in Laverne, so I know about Smyrna. Yeah, Creed and Smyrna would have been. That's electric. And it's kind of at 2016, that's kind of like, these guys haven't been on the road. They haven't been back together in a while. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Fuck it. If you look it up. Yeah, it's just the arms still not open tour. If you just put that into Facebook, it'll pop up. And I forgot all about that. I made it even in the description. I was like, come enjoy the greatest band ever on your lunch break. Because the show is, like. I even said it was, like, 1237 to 01:48 p.m. And I was like, free admission with proof of purchase. Like, all these things that let you know it's not real. And I forgot all about it. And then the day before the day of the event, my phone starts going off on Facebook, and it's like, what's going on? And then you see people excited about the show tomorrow. I'm just like, what show? Like, oh, there it is. And all these people are excited about it, and they're like, in the comments. But then the day of. [00:49:45] Speaker A: I don't know if they could see that on there, trying to get that in the camera. The shirtless photo of Cree. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it was perfect. But the day of, people start messaging in it, and I'm on my lunch break at work, and people are like, I'm here right now. There's nothing going on. I think the guy's full of shit. And then some lady's like, I just asked the lady at Kmart. She has no idea what's going on. This is some kind of sick joke. But then all my buddies. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm here right now, and this is the greatest concert ever. So then this whole other group just starts faking it. But I post that picture of Scott at some concert, wherever, but then all these other people find the same show on Google search, so it looks like all the same concert. And there's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, I'm front row. This is great. It's just another picture from whatever concert that. And, like, people just. Charlene, she got mad, but it was just the funniest thing ever. I'd forgot all about it. And then people started showing up at the Kmart parking lot in Smyrna, Tennessee. [00:50:58] Speaker A: Looking for the greatest band to ever come. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel bad hope. I hope they never see that. Especially because I'd be so like, hey, dude, big fan. He's like, are you? Because you created a fake Facebook event of helped. [00:51:15] Speaker A: I feel like all the memes and all the bits around them are what's brought them back. We're still extremely relevant people showcasing that Dallas Cowboys halftime show where the guys, the shirtless dudes, just flying. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that is one of the wildest things. Every time that comes across, like, anything, I just send it to all my boys. Yeah, it's crazy. Do you know the movie Ruiners podcast? [00:51:42] Speaker A: I don't. [00:51:43] Speaker B: They're really cool. [00:51:46] Speaker A: Movie ruiners. [00:51:47] Speaker B: That's a cool movie ruiners. So, basically, they pick a movie. Like, you pick whatever your favorite movie is, and they just talk about it. But while you're doing this podcast, they're really cool, really good dudes. But them, me and Zach towns and under comic, we all have this subgroup and Instagram where we just send nothing but creed memes, that's all it is. [00:52:08] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Yeah, we definitely got credence. Yeah, the credence, dude. We definitely got to link up, because. [00:52:14] Speaker B: If you got any creed, any and all things creed, dude. [00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we got lots of creed in the tank. [00:52:20] Speaker B: You can throw some nickelback in there, too. I won't be mad. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I wish. Nikki t likes to find random old shirts on dbop and random websites. He found one for me. It's like a Scott Stapp tour shirt from 2006 or seven. And it's like, just all the different faces of Scott. It's like one of those obnoxious. Like, it's just Scott Stapp. And then we have, like, nickelback hockey jerseys. We have limp Bizkit t shirts we've just collected. And then what we'll do is we'll dress up the people performing in our butt rock night. In the butt rock merch. Yeah. Like, we'll throw someone in a hinder shirt. We'll throw someone in a three doors down, zip up hoodie. We'll just find this random shit and just collect it. [00:53:02] Speaker B: I know Nick and Reed from the podcast. They're excited because we're all going to the. [00:53:09] Speaker A: We'll be the. We'll have to link up. Before that, I was like, we should. [00:53:14] Speaker B: All pregame at where the Kmart used to be in Smyrna parking lot before we go. But it's not even there. They got. They got the Cowboys jerseys. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Oh, Nice. Yeah, Nikki T. Has one of those, too. Yeah. [00:53:29] Speaker B: So that's going to be fun. But I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited about the return of Creed. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And limp Bizkit's back to touring again. Nurse is just in another universe, which I love. And they don't even sell merch at their shows. They don't make really biscuit merch anymore. No, it doesn't exist. They're like, if you were here when we were here and you got our merch, but now they don't even sell. They don't even make new merch. [00:53:52] Speaker B: That's crazy. Which is missing out on a ton of money. [00:53:54] Speaker A: Well, they know there's so much bootleg in circulation of different Bizkit things, and it's like all these rock guys are starting to come to Nashville. Like, living here. Like, Scott Stapp lives in a lot. [00:54:09] Speaker B: I mean, kid rock lives here now. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Yeah, kid rock lives here. [00:54:11] Speaker B: The guys from White House on a mountain somewhere. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Yeah, the guys from lit live here. Three doors down lives in this area. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Gavin Degraw has a bar here? [00:54:20] Speaker A: Yep. Gavin Degraw and Timberlake both have bars here. It's fucking wild. We've been hanging out with the guys from good Charlote quite a bit. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Really? [00:54:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Josh Madden, their older brothers. He's become a really good friend of ours and is starting to work more in the country realm of things. But he's. We were all. Everybody's just like, Nashville's the new thing. Like, all the rock guys are starting to move down, particularly Williamson county, because they all have kids, so they want their kids growing up in Franklin and Bret cool Springs. Like, could you imagine? You imagine having, like, a bougie house in Franklin and you go out. You walk out your door one day and it's just Fred Durst hanging out, like, working on his car or something. What is fucking Scott staps just at. [00:55:01] Speaker B: The Starbucks and practicing in his. Never mind, keep going. You're good. Sorry, I didn't realize. [00:55:08] Speaker A: It's Creed. Creed practicing in the garage. [00:55:12] Speaker B: That's funny to think about. [00:55:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's really what's happening. [00:55:15] Speaker B: It's like all your neighbors are just bands. [00:55:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So with tour life, do they give you, like, a rider and stuff? Do you get a rider on a comedy tour? [00:55:26] Speaker B: No, my rider is whatever Rodney has. [00:55:28] Speaker A: Oh, really? Okay. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Yeah. That tour is probably, like, the easiest going. Like, it's literally me. Well, it's Rodney. Me, a piano player. And then the production manager. [00:55:41] Speaker A: Well, that's it. [00:55:41] Speaker B: And then the Outback tour manager. Who's on the outback mean the three of us live in Nashville. Rodney lives out in Tulsa. So we'll just meet up, fly out somewhere, and be out for a weekend. Weekend warrior it, and then come back. [00:55:56] Speaker A: What kind of, like, venues is it? I'm guessing, like, a lot of theaters. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Yeah, mostly theaters and then casinos. Like, what was last weekend was two theater gigs, and then we finished up at some casino in California. [00:56:08] Speaker A: Do you gamble when you're out there? [00:56:10] Speaker B: Sometimes. I'm trying not to make that. [00:56:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I was going to say, with the amount of casino dates you have, you'd be out of hand real quick. [00:56:16] Speaker B: I'd say probably a third of our dates are casino dates. So if I start gambling, it's going to be. I'll get on the roulette table for a little bit. [00:56:24] Speaker A: I'm a slots guy. I'm slots and ponies. That's why I like the Franklin Kentucky, because it's easy. You just hang out there. There's just an old guy ripping a sig next to you. He's like, use this machine right here. This machine right here. This machine's been hot. Sit here for five minutes. You're going to win something. [00:56:39] Speaker B: All the old people always know what slot. [00:56:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Because that's all. They just gamble away the retirement. I can't do slots. [00:56:45] Speaker B: It's just too much or it's too little more going. I need more at stake. [00:56:49] Speaker A: So you need cards in front of you? [00:56:51] Speaker B: Yeah, like, I'll do blackjack. I'll do roulette. I'm trying to learn craps, but I. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Don'T know anything about craps. [00:56:57] Speaker B: I feel like every time I put money down in craps, they're like, oh, there we go. Seven. I'm like, all right, well, seven always hits. Why are we doing this? Yeah, but then apparently, like Baccarat or baccarat or however you say it, baccarat is like the best chances you have at winning. So I don't know. Yeah, I do well in roulette somehow, which is horrible chances of winning. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Where's been like a favorite place that you've gotten to go with Rodney or even offer even not with Rodney, just because I know you'll tour like with some buddies and go to different clubs and I know different cities have different scenes and things like. [00:57:33] Speaker B: I mean, honestly, Zany's is still probably the best club. There's been a lot of fun spots. So with Rodney, the Moody Theater in Austin. [00:57:45] Speaker A: Austin's a very up and coming city for comedy. [00:57:48] Speaker B: The moody theater is where they always had the Aussie city limits live. That would be like on PBS and stuff. So I would watch that growing up, and I remember when we got there, I was like, I've seen this place somewhere before. And then I realized where it was. And the whole theater, or whatever that venue is, is just like rowdy. So it's a lot of fun. San Antonio, the majestic theater out there was nice. Tea pack was very cool year. [00:58:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that'd be a cool moment for you, being a local guy. [00:58:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So that was cool. Still trying to get on the rhyming. One day that'll happen. I've watched a ton of shows there, but then there's just. I don't know. I mean, all the shows are great. Well, there's some that suck, but yeah, you'll have that. [00:58:37] Speaker A: You do so many shows. Not all of them. [00:58:39] Speaker B: You're bound to have some bad, even mean. They're far and few in between. But every once in a mean, especially with Rodney's crowd, sometimes you'll get like a really rowdy, you know, depending on they'll judge you right off how you look when you come out. Before you can even tell a joke. They're just saying things that I'm not going to say on the podcast, but it's like, all right, well, I don't know how to start from there, dude. I haven't even said anything yet. There's an f got chant going on the whole time before I even get out there. Yeah, it depends. That's very rare that's happened, like, a few times where I'm like, all right, what the fuck, dude? [00:59:17] Speaker A: How do I come up from this? [00:59:19] Speaker B: Yeah, let me prove to you guys that I'm not. And then by the end of them, like, I don't think I proved it. I don't think I changed their mind at all. [00:59:30] Speaker A: Damn. [00:59:31] Speaker B: But it's fun. I mean, to be in that situation and to have that opportunity five years in is awesome. Big deal. Yeah. Because you have these five year goals. When you start, you're like, all right, I want to be doing this by this date, and it's just already surpassed what my goals were. So now I'm like, all right, I got to start this whole new set of goals and figure out where I'm going and what I want to do. What I've realized in the entertainment business is a lot of it is luck and being in the right place at the right time and then also building relationships with people, and everybody helps each other out. The only reason I'm on this gig is because Connor Larson, who's another comedian, was out with him for the COVID years. So from, like, 20 to until I was with him in October 2022, he was doing the gigs with him, and I think he just wanted to step down and kind of headline on his own. So the management was like, well, before you leave, do you have somebody that you can recommend and find to replace you before you go? Because you kind of have a contract where it's, know if you leave, you need to have somebody replace you. So he threw my name out there. They called me while I was sitting. [01:00:44] Speaker A: That's a good friend to have, right? [01:00:45] Speaker B: Yeah. So shout out Connell Larson, twice. Him and a guy named Chance Willie. Like, they gave me Comedy bar, which was a big space of me getting better in comedy quick was just. It was a place, like, right off downtown on Third Avenue. So you always got, like, the drunkest crowds, and they were just kind of hard. It was hard to do well there, but you wanted to be there because it's, like, local show or you got open mic, local shows, and then this huge gap of performing and then zanies. So Zanies is like top tier in Nashville for club and everything. And then comedy bar comes along. It's like a nice in between that fills in that gap between local shows. And Connor, you know, was one of the people hosting a lot of shows there. Him and chance. And they had moved up to hosting and doing stuff at Zany's at that, obviously, you know, comedy bar was like, do you have somebody to recommend us? And Connor and them and chance, again were like, yeah, Matt Taylor's good. You know, give him a chance. So that happened. Then the world shut down and know, I did that for a while and then moved up to Zany's. And then Connor steps down from Rodney's tour, and it really know about the relationships that you build and the friends that you make. And I'm forever grateful for the opportunities that they've given me or even throwing my name in the hat. It's a large C. And half the time, there's plenty of comics that I. [01:02:17] Speaker A: Think could do Rodney's gig, especially here in Nashville. The Nashville comedy scene has just boomed. [01:02:22] Speaker B: Yeah. So much Nate blowing up and Dusty and, I mean, Theo lives here. Theo doesn't really do much other. Know Zany's when he pops. I mean, just having his name here alone brings credibility. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Yeah. The faces that are on the side of the building at Zany's. Yeah, that's a good collection right there. There's not a lot of cities that have that. [01:02:46] Speaker B: No. And, I mean, then you've got the bigger up and comers. Like, you've got Aaron Chance just moved up to Austin, but fantastic comic Connor, Zach, Fiona Collie, she's doing great. But then you have, like, Laura Peak and Casey. Casey lived here. She moved to. She's a writer for SNL now. [01:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Fucking cool. [01:03:08] Speaker B: And then Laura Peak tours with Eliza Schlesinger, and she tours on her own too. So there's a lot of talent that comes out of New York or New York that comes out of Nashville. There's a lot of talent that comes out of New York too. They're kind of the mecca for that. But it's just for the small circle that we have. I'd say per capita, we have a ton of comics that are good because in New York, you have a shit ton of comics, but then you have the smaller. [01:03:36] Speaker A: In New York, you have a shit ton of everything because of the size and everything. And then what's the Nashville comedy festival like? Are you a part of that? [01:03:43] Speaker B: Yeah, typically, if I'm on it, I'm doing the roast battle, which is great. Josh Black, he's another great. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Is that like the yo mama back and forth kind of thing? [01:03:54] Speaker B: It's more like, have you ever watched Roast battle? Like, the one that they had, like, the comedy store back in the day where it's like, each person goes, tip for tat. So it's just tip for tat or tip for tat? I don't know, but it's basically like, you have a constructed roast, and then the next person does. So it's not really, like, yo Mama style, but it tends to be more of, like, you look like okay, or whatever. So that's fun. They do that every year during the comedy festival, and then all the bigger acts are coming around, so you can host for them or kind of have a feature with them. And that festival itself, that's one of. [01:04:36] Speaker A: The goals that I have for this year, is to pop in. [01:04:41] Speaker B: That's alive, come to new material Monday. [01:04:43] Speaker A: During that, I would like to do that. I got to go to kid rock show Ryman a few years ago because he had Trey kick off the night with Dick down in Dallas acoustic at the Ryman, which, for Trey and us, that was, like, such a cool moment. And then we got to see Theo performed at that. Shane Gillis, he had just gotten let go. [01:05:03] Speaker B: Chance was on that. [01:05:04] Speaker A: Yeah, Shane had just gotten let go from SNL, so that was a really cool one. He had Big J, which I had gotten to know Big J. I had some buddies that helped out on the gas digital network with Legion of skanks and sex, drugs, and rock and roll show. The SDR show. [01:05:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So I worked with, you know, Aaron Berg. [01:05:26] Speaker A: That name rings a bell. Yeah. I'd only popped in there a few times for some of their very wild x rated events. [01:05:31] Speaker B: Dude, that shit was a. He was nice enough to give me. He was the reason I went down to New York to do shows and in Jersey. And that dude is just crowdwork murderer. I mean, how he doesn't get canceled for the stuff that he says is beyond me, but he is hilarious. He's relentless, and he takes a bunch of risk and shout out to Aaron Berg. He's a very. [01:05:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that digital network, they're good dudes. They have a lot of cool shit going on. But when I was there, they were recording at big Ralph's apartment, Ralph Sutton's apartment. And they were having, like, the sex, drugs, and rock and roll show was very leaning on wild sex capades and porn stars. And adult entertainers and all of that kind of stuff. So I got to go up for some of the very. Because my budy Chris, who I worked at the radio station with, was like their content guy. So he would bring me. He's like, dude, they're doing this tonight. I'd be like, oh, fuck. Okay, I'll go. And then I'd just be sitting in the corner watching this shit go on. And it was just some crazy shit. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:35] Speaker A: And like, luis Gomez and all those dudes. Yeah. You talk about guys that have found a way to get by, cancel culture and just be insane. That was my first tiptoe. I wasn't fully in it at all by any means. A lot of those guys probably don't know who I am, but I got to be in the room with them and watch them work, especially behind closed doors. Shit was crazy. [01:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah, gat digital is doing real well. When Louis J. Gomez and Aaron came, they co headlined zanies. [01:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:06] Speaker B: So I was like, the host opener or whatever for him, and I felt like such an idiot whenever I brought Gomez on stage, I just go, give it up for Lewis Gomez. And then he comes out, he's like, it's Louis J. Gomez. I was like, I mean, I get it, but come like, yeah, I feel like such an idiot. But that's not the worst. I've literally forgotten somebody's last name before, dude. Or they'll give you all their stuff. I host the once in a lifetime coming around the corner. Be there soon podcast. You're like, I'm not going to remember that. Yeah, just give me something else. [01:07:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I have. Nikki T. And I host. We host the songwriters nights, the writers rounds. That's kind of how I've made my name in town, is by doing a lot of those. I've hosted at least twice a month since 2019, even during COVID Now we're doing like, 13 events in town a month. It's wow, a lot. So I have to remember everybody's name to introduce them. The full band stuff is easier because there's only, like, six people playing, but when it's a writer's round, it's as many as 16 artists. Yeah, because they'll be up, there'll be three or four up at a time, and they'll go down the line playing their songs. It'll be like one person, then one person, then one person, then one person. So you get up there, you introduce all four of them. Plus you have to shout out the sponsors, talk about the venue, tip the bartenders. Hey, check out our merch. You get in a flow and a rhythm of doing. [01:08:29] Speaker B: You should host the zanies. You'd be good, dude. [01:08:31] Speaker A: Dude. That's something that Evan has talked with us about, is, like, figuring out a way, because he's, like, the name raised rowdy just sounds like something that would be fun. And we have a segment that's called our. [01:08:50] Speaker B: Y'all could probably easily produce a comedy show somewhere here. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And we have a thing coming up, a comedy collective. We call it raise rowdy Degens, like, degenerates. And it's five of our buddies. It's basically like, if you took the blue collar, redneck style of comedy and mixed it with songwriters, it's like those kind of guys. Brian Frazier, who runs our butt rock account, is one of those guys that's in that thing, but they have songs like Masturbator, like, about fishing. He's the masturbator with a rod and reel. It's guys with songs like, I like them all shapes and sizes, talking about different beers. Just funny. Silly. One of my budies, Eli Locke, has a song called Wiener Dog. Like, she only loves me for my wiener dog. And people have. And we're working on bits with them, but it's like figuring out the video to where it's like, nobody's getting canceled because they're wild. They're wild. [01:09:54] Speaker B: Good dudes. [01:09:54] Speaker A: Talented songwriters. But, yeah, we've been wanting to. That's, like, a goal for me by the end of this year is to get some out, because I want to showcase the comedy scene in Nashville fucks, and it fucks really hard. There's a lot of good talent here, and everybody just thinks of it as, like, the music city, but there's. [01:10:11] Speaker B: It's tough because it's labeled music city. I didn't know there was comedy in. [01:10:17] Speaker A: Like, I want to get to where one of our events could be a variety show, and it could be a little mix of everything. [01:10:24] Speaker B: Always put comedy before music. [01:10:27] Speaker A: That's what my girlfriend told me. That was, like, it is like, to go especially, like, the full band stuff. Maybe have a comedian kick off the night. Maybe they're hosting that night, and maybe that's how you start to bridge it, because we do our stuff at winners and losers is, like, full band stuff. So maybe that's a place to do it, but we're hoping to dip and dive more into it and to really showcase that, because we've raised rights. Like, we have the country stuff, we have the butt rock stuff. We're going to ten festivals this summer where we set up. We help MC the festivals. We sell merch. We go out and do content with people. We'll host like a hot dog eating contest in the camper area. We'll do like a beer pong leaderboard. We did a watermelon eating contest in Rome, Georgia. [01:11:12] Speaker B: Nice fucking. [01:11:14] Speaker A: The guy that won the watermelon eating contest was like a big fucking horse. Like farmer dude. And we have photos of him eating his watermelon. Like, yeah, no shit, that guy won the watermelon. We have a lot of good stuff coming, but, yeah, we'd definitely love to figure out ways that we could fucking get within the same thing guys like you and Evan have been really helpful with. [01:11:38] Speaker B: Evan's a great dude. He's a good guy. [01:11:40] Speaker A: Talk about a dude in the scene. That's like hosting a bunch of different events. And just like someone who's part of, like, you talked about that in between of, like, you have the open mics and you have zanies. Like, he's part of the early stage and that middle. Yeah, like part of that bridge. And I feel like that's important. That's like, what we do with the music. Shit. We don't have money to pay people to do our events, but they come and do them because they're homies of ours and they know it's going to be a good time. They know instrumental within the scene. I feel like that's what you guys are doing with comedy. [01:12:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good to have, especially people like Evan, because Evan's been in the scene for a long. You know, he came up with Dusty, so he knows a ton about. He's very, very helpful to a lot of the newer people that are trying to get opportunities. He's good with advice and he's just literally one of the nicest people in the scene. Him and Dusty's one of the nicest people. [01:12:34] Speaker A: Like, incredibly welcoming. Another big lover of cigars, by the way. [01:12:37] Speaker B: Yes. [01:12:38] Speaker A: Dusty slay loves him a cigar. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Be surprised. There's a lot of people that love cigars. Yeah, I try. I don't really smoke anymore, but I smoke for like 12, 13, 14 years. [01:12:53] Speaker A: What kind of cigarette? What kind of cigarete. Crush. [01:12:56] Speaker B: Holiday camo? [01:12:57] Speaker A: Crush. [01:12:58] Speaker B: Crush it. [01:12:59] Speaker A: Did you have the black ICE window? The black ICE car freshener to match it? Because I feel like that just goes like, if you buy a camel crush pack in a gas station, they should just give you the black ICE air freshener. [01:13:11] Speaker B: I remember I started out with black and milds. [01:13:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, all of them. Do the wine, wood tips. [01:13:15] Speaker B: We go down spring break in Panama City, and I just, like. I'm smoking black and milds this whole time. Yeah, wine tips. Then I moved to. Was it the clove cigarettes? Like the Jaram black? [01:13:29] Speaker A: Whatever. [01:13:31] Speaker B: I smoked those for, like, a year before I was like, all was. Because I was always like, I'll never smoke cigarettes. [01:13:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that's how I was. [01:13:38] Speaker B: But it was like, black and milds closed cigarettes, and then camel crush came out, and that was it. That was like the next ten years of my life was just burning heaters. [01:13:49] Speaker A: Yeah, my next. Yeah, my first pack that I ever bought was a pack of maverick red one hundred s. And what a mistake that was. I was on those. [01:13:57] Speaker B: Kept you going. [01:13:57] Speaker A: Then I was on L and Ms, and then my longest I was a diet Marlborough guy. Marlborough light short. Diet Marlboroughs were my speed. I tried the hipster american spirit thing. It's just too long of a commitment. Those cigarettes, they just take so long to burn. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Yeah, you're still out there where everybody's like, all right, I'm done. I'm going back in. Yeah, it's cold out here. [01:14:20] Speaker A: An american spirit is a ten minute conversation with some randos outside of tin roof. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Not the same as a black and mild. You can't put it out and relight it? [01:14:26] Speaker A: No, black and milds are good for that reason. [01:14:29] Speaker B: Smoking is crazy because I haven't smoked since. It's probably been five years now. [01:14:35] Speaker A: Wow. I still bomb them when I'm out. It's like I'm around all this alcohol. It was what I jumped to after I quit boozing. [01:14:43] Speaker B: It's weird. I kind of, like, quit everything pretty much at the same time. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Like, straight edge kind of thing. [01:14:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I still drink. I just don't get, like, shitty anymore. [01:14:52] Speaker A: There's a big difference. [01:14:53] Speaker B: But, yeah, there's still not like, I'll see somebody smoking like, damn, that's good. Nice. That's real nice. [01:15:02] Speaker A: You're enjoying that? [01:15:02] Speaker B: You're enjoying that? Yeah. Tell me how that is. Just tell me what that feels like. [01:15:07] Speaker A: Did you crush it yet? Did you crush it yet? [01:15:10] Speaker B: I would crush it every single time. I wouldn't even smoke it first. I would just crush it. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Really? Oh, you want straight menthol? [01:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And people are like, just buy menthol. I'm like, I don't know why. I don't know if it's the slight autism I have, but that little crack right there just really gets me self diagnosed autistic on TikTok. [01:15:29] Speaker A: On TikTok, I was going to say, do you do TikTok a lot? Is TikTok big for comedians? [01:15:35] Speaker B: It is. I don't do it enough. [01:15:37] Speaker A: It's huge for music. It's changed the game for music within country music. Yeah, that's why we have that platinum dick down Dallas plaque over there. Yeah. TikTok changes people's lives. It's crazy. There'll be clips from this episode that'll be on TikTok. That's just how you have to promote everything now. And it's just like the short form stuff, because you remember vine. You were probably a Vine guy. [01:16:04] Speaker B: I think vine still to this day was the most creative. [01:16:07] Speaker A: That was your favorite. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah, because, I mean, it's like, 6 seconds makes something worth watching. That's all you get. You get 6 seconds. And it was fun to be creative that way. And I remember I had, like, one vine that did really well, and then a few months later, it was just done. [01:16:23] Speaker A: What was the vine? [01:16:25] Speaker B: What'd you do? I don't even have it because I didn't save any of them. But I tried to redo it on Instagram. It just didn't work as well. I don't know if just time passed, but basically, it's like, this guy's, like, walking by this car, and the guy in the car looks like he's jacking off. So the guy's like, what the. And as soon as what the? It cuts to the inside of the car, and he's just scratching off scratch off tickets. But, like, when he walks by, the guy's like, come on. But it was just 6 seconds, like, real quick, you just see him, like, gone. [01:16:59] Speaker A: That's awesome. That's awesome. That's good degeneracy right there. [01:17:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And it was just, I don't know, for some reason, I think somebody might have shared it or something, because it was just doing nothing, and it just took off. And that was like the first feeling of something going viral. And then on Instagram, I'd put my jokes up or whatever, and one of them went viral. And that helped a lot because I went from, like, 2000 followers to, like, 30,000 just off of one joke. [01:17:26] Speaker A: Wow. [01:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And they just stayed there. Yeah, but talking about TikTok. Yeah, somebody, because, you know, on TikTok, they just steal jokes. That's a big thing that happens on there, too, is like, some account just redid my joke, and it's just doing way better than my joke did on TikTok. And I was just, ah, I hate seeing that, but good for them. [01:17:49] Speaker A: It's like, people steal memes. [01:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:51] Speaker A: I can't tell you how many of Brian and Nick's butt rock memes have been taken by big accounts like Barstool, even. [01:17:57] Speaker B: Really? [01:17:58] Speaker A: Which, you know what? At the end of the day, Brian's like, you know what? If my meme got picked up by Barstool, I made a good meme. This was a good quality. Hey, just tag the person or just put a wall. Yeah, just by tagging and giving somewhat. [01:18:10] Speaker B: Of recognition, even if you're like, this is hilarious. And then at whoever. Yeah, but, like, the one I just saw, somebody's like, you can't make this stuff up. I'm like, you literally made it up. That's my story. But you see that a lot, and you see it a lot with TikTokers because they're, like, a younger generation. I don't know if they just don't respect the craft that goes into comedy. It's jokes at the end of the day, but at the same time, somebody put a lot of time into that, and that's their creativity. And now you're just piggybacking that to get views and go viral, because you saw it too well, and you're not even, like, giving them credit. You're making it your own thing. But clearly, there's one guy on TikTok that just steals everybody's stuff. And even all in the comments, they're like, you stole this. [01:19:03] Speaker A: But it's still getting the comments, getting the algorithm, because even bad comments, as long as there's some kind of interaction, the algorithm goes nuts. [01:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they're like, oh, people love this. Push it. But you see that a lot in TikTok. You see it a little bit on Instagram. But I don't know why. On TikTok, I mean, there's a bunch of wannabe comics that'll just damn. Literally their whole thing. It's just finding jokes online and then recreating it as their own. [01:19:29] Speaker A: Damn, yeah, that happens. [01:19:31] Speaker B: Can't really do that. Can you do that in music? [01:19:34] Speaker A: In music, there's people that'll, like, now there's record labels. Like, universal is pulling. You have to pay to use their sound. There's labels where you have to pay to use the sounds from the songs. Or, like, there's people. There's, like, wars going on between labels. [01:19:51] Speaker B: Notice that, because you would make videos and you would add the audio, and now you're trying to search the audio. It's like, oh, it's all these karaoke. [01:19:57] Speaker A: Covers of this, or you got to buy it and it's like iTunes kind of shit. [01:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:02] Speaker A: Where you got to buy it to use it. [01:20:05] Speaker B: One clip. [01:20:06] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And it's like, what's going to be next after TikTok? Because, you know, in the next few years, there's going to be another app everybody's going to go nuts for. Everybody thought it couldn't get bigger than Facebook. Oh, it couldn't get bigger than Instagram. [01:20:16] Speaker B: What about Snapchat? That really flopped. I don't know how they're not. [01:20:20] Speaker A: Snapchat was wild for me. When you're single, to me, when you're single, Snapchat is big. When you're in a healthy, good relationship, Snapchat goes away. [01:20:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I might as well delete it at this point. Yeah, I have, like, two friends that send me stuff on there, and I'm like, yeah, for you guys. [01:20:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I have some budies from back home in New York that get into some degenerate shit. [01:20:40] Speaker B: They're like, gone 24 hours. [01:20:42] Speaker A: Yeah, they're like fidai guys, like Wall street guys, but they'll party like Wall Street. [01:20:46] Speaker B: I thought you were talking, like a fraternity or something. [01:20:48] Speaker A: Well, fide. Yeah. Like financial district. [01:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah, fide. [01:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah, fide eye. And they're like, work hard, play harder kind of guys. Not quite Wolf of Wall street, but like a few notches below that. [01:20:59] Speaker B: The coyote of Wall street. [01:21:00] Speaker A: Yeah, like the coyote. Not even quite up to, like, Jonah Hill, Wolf of Wall street level, but just not quite into the quailudes, but into some fun stuff. And they'll send me random videos or random snapchats of the sandwich they got. And I'm like, why you send me this italian combo? You know? [01:21:14] Speaker B: I can't get this shit down here. [01:21:16] Speaker A: Like, motherfucker. [01:21:17] Speaker B: Where are the places to go in? [01:21:19] Speaker A: I mean, it depends what you're looking for. There's everything. [01:21:21] Speaker B: Pizza? [01:21:22] Speaker A: I went to go to John's on bleaker. [01:21:25] Speaker B: No, I think I went to Joe's. [01:21:26] Speaker A: Joe's? Joe's is good, too. Joe's is really good, too. If you're hanging out by the cellar, where the comedy district is. [01:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's Greenwich. [01:21:36] Speaker A: Yeah, Greenwich Village. Greenwich village has a ton of good restaurants. Again, I didn't grow up going into the city. When I was old enough, I moved down here at 23, but I would go into the city to go to a Yankees game and training or go to see Florida Georgia line at Madison Square Garden or like this or that. Go to shows and things like that. [01:21:56] Speaker B: But then what happened to them? Do they just wait till they come back? [01:22:02] Speaker A: They're doing their own solo things, but wait till they come back the same guys. It's funny, like the tree. I've talked about this on here before, and this is why butt rock and country music come together. So the guys that originally that helped with Nickelback early on, a guy, he's been on the show before, his name's chief, and he was Nickelback's tour manager and front of house guy. And he started out with them in Canada from when they were in a van all the way up. And then he went from them, he found another band that he wanted to formally manage. And that band was hinder, okay, and his partner in a lot of that. And the guy that produced Nickelback, this guy named Joey Moy. So Joey produced Nickelback, Hinder. They also worked with a band, default. They worked with a bunch of different bands that came out of Canada, and then they got a call to come down. [01:22:51] Speaker B: Wait, Hinder's Canadian. [01:22:52] Speaker A: Hinder is from Oklahoma, but default Theory of a dead man, Nickelback. There's all those bands that came out of Canada, three days Grace, a lot of canadian butt rock, and we love canadian butt rock. They're very strong. But they got a call to come down to Nashville to work on Jake Owens barefoot Blue Jean night record. So you have Chief and Joey coming to Nashville. Then from there, they got a call about these guys that were playing on Broadway, doing covered gigs that ended up being Florida Georgia line. So then Chief ends up managing FGL, Joey ends up producing now, then big loud comes to be, and that is Morgan Wallen, Hardy, Ernest. All those guys. Yeah, chief right before COVID leaves big loud and starts his own thing called the core. And the core is now Bailey Zimmerman, Josh Ross, Nate Smith. And Nickelback is on there, too. [01:23:51] Speaker B: Wow. [01:23:51] Speaker A: So the guys that helped really get Nickelback started came into country music, helped out with, helped really get Jake Owen going with that barefoot Lugie night record, built up FGL, built up Morgan Wallen, all those guys. And now it's like the Bailey Zimmermans in that world, but it all stems from them coming up in Canada together with all, like, that sound of bro country comes from the same guys that created butt rock, and there's a lot of similarities to it in that they've become a bit. And like, you have people hating on bro country in the last few years. Give it another ten years. And what we're doing with butt rock. [01:24:33] Speaker B: Oh, my God, that was so good. [01:24:34] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Bro country. There's not a skip on FGL's first record, those chase rice songs, those Thomas Rhett songs, those Luke Bryan songs, it's going to circle back around and the pendulum is going to swing back. It's wild, though, when you look at it in that sense to where it all comes from, those guys. And then you go to a Morgan Wallen concert and you have the elements of what a nickelback arena rock show looks like. [01:25:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:01] Speaker A: Like, it's that production style and that rock star lifestyle that you saw with Chad Kroger and you saw with Austin from hinder. And you see with those bands, it's. [01:25:11] Speaker B: Crazy when you realize, like, nickelback and, like, how aware they are of, like, oh, it's a bit. Yeah, it's a bit nickelback. Every time you see Chad, like, his interviews, he's always like, oh, yeah, I get it. He's like, but they're all hits. They're making a shit ton of money. And you're like, respect that. [01:25:30] Speaker A: You don't think Fred durst knew what he was doing at Woodstock 99. That's a bit corn. [01:25:35] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. Yeah. [01:25:37] Speaker A: The band crazy town. You don't think creed, like, you don't think Scott Stapp knows with all these memes. There's a reason he's commenting on them with Fire emojis. Like, loving it. He knows it's a knowing there's so much. And it's like that with comedy, too. Like knowing your thing, that makes you a little bit different. It's like that with all things in entertainment. [01:25:56] Speaker B: It's like with Rodney. Rodney found a way to make himself stand out. Yeah, because every comic in the 90s was doing comedy, but not that many people were doing songs and stuff like that. And at that time, it was him, and they were doing, like, comedy albums. [01:26:13] Speaker A: It was another guy. What the fuck was his name? He covered a bunch of. It was like a lot of 2000 songs. Like, he changed. I love this bar by Toby Keith. R I p, by the way, too. I love NASCAR. [01:26:24] Speaker B: Oh, Cletus, Cletus, Cletus. He's a very nice guy, too. [01:26:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I haven't met him. I'd love to meet him. [01:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah, he's very nice and I've got to work with him a few times, but, yeah, him and Rodney were kind of like, you know, was pumping out all these original songs that people were just like, back in high school, we'd listen to his songs on the way to baseball games, and the coach be like, turn that shit off. Just that filth. I'm like, yeah, this is hilarious. Dear penis. Come on, now. [01:26:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:26:57] Speaker B: But watching him getting on tour with him and watching him kind of changed because you learn something from everybody. It's like with him, I've learned what it is to be a performer at that level because he's very theatrical and everything that he does is just big in his movement. And just like, okay, if you want to perform this level, you have to grow into a performer and you see him just do it. No matter what kind of day he's having, what he's going through, or, you know, he's great friends with Toby. Toby passed. He's at the funeral one day, and then he's doing shows the next day. And you put that hat on and you go out there and perform regardless of what's going on around you and mad respect for him. I mean, I've learned a lot from him. [01:27:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:43] Speaker B: He's also an insanely insightful guy. [01:27:46] Speaker A: I bet. [01:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I bet. [01:27:47] Speaker A: That's awesome, dude. How many more dates you got with him? [01:27:49] Speaker B: You sell nonstop until they kick me off or I kick myself off. So it's kind of the greatest gig ever. [01:27:55] Speaker A: It really is. [01:27:56] Speaker B: I mean, as a comedian, your biggest problem is booking dates. And now I'm in a position. I'm obviously not going to be on the tour forever because I'll eventually step down to do my own thing. But this is the most stress free comedy there is because all my dates are booked with him. And then our weeks off or whatever, I'll try and pick up where I can and try and headline smaller clubs when I can and get those opportunities. [01:28:23] Speaker A: Hell, yeah, dude. [01:28:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll be with him. [01:28:27] Speaker A: Do you have any shows within a four hour radius coming up? With Rodney? [01:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah, with Rodney, I think because I'd. [01:28:34] Speaker A: Love to get out to. I mean, I want to come and see one of your Nashville dates, but I'd love to get out. I mean, I'd love to make a trip out to be. That'd be fun. Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. I've never been to a Rodney Carrington show. Like I said, I've only partied with him and a dog. Some girl had a dog. Me and Rodney. Ryan Nelson, another one of our djens, like those guys. We all partied at Red Door together one night. [01:28:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not getting service in here. But now he's got. There's Mount Vernon, kentucky coming up. [01:29:06] Speaker A: Yeah, let me see. I wonder where. He's 55. [01:29:13] Speaker B: He's been doing it a while, dude, 35 years. He started when he was 20. I started when I was 30. [01:29:21] Speaker A: Bloomington, Illinois. I love that place. We go to a festival up there. Oh, the Choctaw casino. That's a fun one. [01:29:26] Speaker B: Is that durant? [01:29:26] Speaker A: That's durant. That's a good casino. That's a fun casino weekend. Yeah. Look at you knowing your dates. That's awesome. You got Myrtle beach. I love how there's the Alabama theater in Myrtle beach, South Carolina. [01:29:38] Speaker B: I know what happened there. [01:29:41] Speaker A: Fucking funny. West Virginia. Back to back nights. That's very fitting. Midland, Texas. Been out there rowing up. Oh, jackson, Tennessee, may 11. [01:29:52] Speaker B: Oh, that's coming back from Arkansas. Yeah. [01:29:55] Speaker A: We'll figure out a date. [01:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah. If you look right down there, I think Mount Vernon is like 2 hours away. [01:30:01] Speaker A: Mount Vernon. [01:30:03] Speaker B: We went there and did a show there last year, I think. [01:30:08] Speaker A: Oh, and owensboro is not far away either. [01:30:09] Speaker B: Yeah, the Kentucky shows might. [01:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll have to see because we have festivals and stuff. Like, our festival calendar comes up, and it's like every month in the summer we're at a festival. [01:30:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:18] Speaker A: And it's like one of them. Like, we're doing one of those rock the countries. I don't know if you've seen that. It's Jason Aldean headlining the first night. [01:30:25] Speaker B: I have seen that. [01:30:25] Speaker A: Kid Rock headlined the second night, so we'll be at one of those. We do the key west Sonitors festival. [01:30:30] Speaker B: Yeah, Kid rock was just talking about that on the Rogan podcast, putting that on. [01:30:34] Speaker A: So we'll be out at one of those doing our raise rowdy stuff. [01:30:38] Speaker B: That's awesome. [01:30:39] Speaker A: So we're like carneys, where it's like, we go out on tour in the summer for festivals, and then we'll go out on shows, too, and we call it Rowdy on the road, and we'll do, like, we just did one in Statesboro, Georgia, with this kid Gavin Adcock, who's coming up. He's like, john Langston. You take John Langston and co. Wetzel energy and put in a 24 year. [01:30:57] Speaker B: Old kid, and it's just shoot me some. I love finding new music. [01:31:02] Speaker A: Oh, dude, absolutely. I got those for. That's what I do. We're like an R for the people. We like to put people on shit. Country and rock. [01:31:11] Speaker B: That's hilarious or not hilarious. That's awesome. Because before I got into comedy, I tried to create my own. I just called it, I guess, like a music collective. [01:31:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:21] Speaker B: It was called local motive music. [01:31:23] Speaker A: Okay. [01:31:24] Speaker B: And the whole point was, like, the motive was to push local artists, and we would, like, host shows all around Murfreesboro. Oh, cool. And it was so much fun. [01:31:34] Speaker A: Yeah, rage rowdy started in Pittsburgh. I started in New York and came on as a part owner. Nikki T's been doing it since 2017, and I came in as his partner in April of last year when I got off the road from doing the tour manager stuff. And, yeah, it's like, we do stuff. We're very hyper local to Nashville with hosting a lot of events. And we have this pod. We have Nick's pod. We have Nick and Kurt's pod tells from the front row. We have a NASCAR podcast. Two of our buddies host. We have rowdy alternative. That's more rock leaning. Like, he's had band members from, like, bowling for soup and Primus on there. Yeah, that's a virtual one. Then we have a music business one that our budy Peyton, we call him our baby suit. He hosts that one, and we're working on developing some others, but we're all within the music scene. And then I'm kind of the variety of whoever coming know where it's been. Mostly country. Like, I've had the Meg Maroney's, the Dylan Marlowe's. Like, people like Ella Langley's on the show. But now we're starting to mix it up because we already have the country segment covered with other stuff. So now it's like, still have country people on, but still. Now I can have guys like you on. I can have on the so and so Instagram influencer have on the so and so. This guy, that guy, this girl that know. [01:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah, you're turning, like, a multimedia platform. [01:32:51] Speaker A: It's outside the. It's. Our things are called writers rounds. So it's like, this is outside the round. It's outside the box. We like to get down with all kinds of shit, and comedy is definitely one of them, dude. And I appreciate you hanging out. I didn't know how long this one was going to go. We sat in here and talked for a good little while. [01:33:05] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, this has been awesome. [01:33:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Where can people go to find you on all your shit? Now that vine doesn't exist anymore, you ain't going viral. Dude. [01:33:13] Speaker B: I don't even remember what my vine account. I think it was, like, short for Matthew or something. [01:33:17] Speaker A: Okay. [01:33:18] Speaker B: Because the name's Matt and I'm short. Yeah, just online Instagram at Matt Taylor comedy, TikTok at Taylor comedy Facebook, Matt Taylor. Good luck finding me on there. There's a lot of us. Yeah, that's mean. I'll put my dates up. I'm pretty good at slacking this month, but this is the, and as far as shows, I'll be at all the shows with Rodney, so you can come see me there. Other than that, a lot of times I'm at Zany's on the new material Mondays and then smokes and jokes in Murfreesboro. [01:33:54] Speaker A: I want to get down for one of those, especially with the cigar bar next. [01:33:58] Speaker B: Come hang out, dude. It's a good time. [01:33:59] Speaker A: I would love to get down to one of those. [01:34:01] Speaker B: The second Monday of every month. It's comedically hard to remember, but it's the second Monday of every month at 830 at Liquid Smoke in Murphysboro. I highly recommend that show. I love it. I know it's my show, like me and Nick's show and we produce it, but literally it's a free show. And it's a lot of have a lot of times we have surprise pop in comics. Like, I mean, John Chris came through not too long ago. So that's the fun thing about comics is no matter what stage they're at, they still love because that's where we all started. They always love coming back to a local show and respect to John for even coming all the way to Murphysboro to do a local cigar bar show. But it's just that grind. It's like, all right, here's a place where I can kind of try these new jokes out in front of a different crowd. And yeah, sometimes we'll have pop ins like that. So it's always a good time. [01:34:51] Speaker A: Hell yeah, dude. Well, y'all be sure to check out our boy Matt Taylor. Get out to a Rodney Carrington show. Or if you're here in Nashville, go check out smoke and jokes. [01:35:00] Speaker B: Smokes and jokes. [01:35:01] Speaker A: Smokes and jokes. Yeah, because we have multiple smokes when we're down there, but y'all be sure to follow him and all that good stuff. Thank you guys for watching and listening to another episode of outside the round. Be sure to follow us on all the socials. Rate and subscribe. Tell your mama and them. And if you want to find out more about me and what we've got going on in the raised rowdy world, hit up raisedrowdy.com for my boy, Matt Taylor. I'm Matt Burrill. This has been outside the round I never been the kind for still one place for too long I never been the best at this I love you to a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they. [01:35:42] Speaker B: Usually just make them leave. [01:35:45] Speaker A: So if you know me. [01:35:47] Speaker B: If you really know me. [01:35:48] Speaker A: You know I've two trick pony. Maybe the drinking spending like a money for show. I'm just a two trick pony. [01:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah, close.