Will Cullen

Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is going on everybody? It's Sha Boy Map Real here. Welcome back to another edition of the In at the Round podcast. Uh, today we've got a real special guest. Uh, you might know him from the internet. You might know him from being out at bars here in Nashville, or you might know him if you're a student here in Nashville, Tennessee at the Fine Establishment known as Belmont University. Giving up for our boy from Wisconsin. Mr. Will. Cullen Will. How you doing, brother? Speaker 2 00:00:35 Doing good. It's cool, man. Yeah, it's great day. Um, yeah, just, just having a great day in Nashville. It's beautiful Speaker 1 00:00:42 Outside. How, how was your weekend? Speaker 2 00:00:44 Weekend was fun. Speaker 1 00:00:45 I saw you on Friday. Speaker 2 00:00:46 I did see you on Friday. What did I even do Friday? Speaker 1 00:00:49 Well, we were, we closed down red door. Yes. We, which I haven't done, dude. I've been dealing with vertigo. You ever had that? Yes. Speaker 2 00:00:54 Like not sleeping. Speaker 1 00:00:55 Vertigo's when you're like dizzy, like when everything's just dizzy, like you feel like you're walking, like you're stuck drunk. Like you can't drive or do anything. Yeah. Like, like everything's just kinda like tilted. Have you ever had that before? Speaker 2 00:01:06 Uh, usually after it's alcohol, but that's all. Speaker 1 00:01:09 Yeah. Like, but you just haven It's like having the spins. And I had that for like, the last two, three weeks. So Friday night, Speaker 2 00:01:16 Like the whole time. 24 7. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:01:17 Like, I, it's is Speaker 2 00:01:19 That why your head's like this way? Speaker 1 00:01:20 I know, right? I'm kidding. Yeah, it's like a dog. It's like when you ask a dog a question and their head's fucking tilt. But, um, so Friday night was my first night back out and I was out with Nikki t and Sweet Boy and some other folks. And, um, I hadn't, I mean, it's, you know, it's a good time when you close down red door when the lights go from red to yellow. Yeah. And that was that night for us on Friday. Speaker 2 00:01:39 Yep. That was, uh, that was interesting cuz I actually had to leave the next morning for a show in Cincinnati. Cincinnati. And that's, that's like only like four hour drive, but I was unwell on that trip up. Speaker 1 00:01:50 What were, what was the show in Cincinnati? Speaker 2 00:01:52 Uh, it's like a fishbowl fishbowl at the banks. It's like a little, it's like a mini Gulch, but in Cincinnati. Okay. That's like, like, just like a nice little area blocked off in a bunch of fun little bars. There's a tin roof there. Oh. Sick. So it was fun. I played at just one little thing and then I, whenever tin roof and then he got like a hotel. It's great. I love traveling, especially like on the weekends when I can's Speaker 1 00:02:13 Fun. Did you, did you film some content up there? Because I feel like you're, I feel like you, like you do, you obviously do shows and you're doing the student thing. Yeah. But for you, the content grind, maintaining what you've built hard, which congrats on all the Thanks. Success from that dude. That grind is not easy. Uhuh, it bears you down and to keep it fresh like you're able to do mm-hmm. With that, by utilizing that same kind of concept of serenading beautiful women, which by the way, as a, as a single guy, I'm like that. I wish I could do what you do, bro. Speaker 2 00:02:40 <laugh>. Well, yeah, we can talk about that. But, uh, it's, it, it is fun. I'm glad I found my little niche cause uh, I mean I downloaded TikTok when Covid started. Yeah. So I started posting that summer and it's been since then that I've like been posting. Um, and that's the thing too, I always just try to, uh, change things up and keep things like interesting cuz you never know what, what's gonna work. Like this is like my fourth or fifth or sixth series that I've done on TikTok. So it hasn't always been centered around that, but it just, what Speaker 1 00:03:10 Were, what were some of the other ones Speaker 2 00:03:11 You did? Um, okay, so I started, started, um, I was in the middle of nowhere, Wisconsin actually. And I, there's nothing that happens there. And, um, I was like, okay, gotta mix it up. I play guitar. Um, I taught myself how to play guitar, so I was like, okay, I can definitely help out other people learn how to play guitar. Yeah. So that's what I did. I just set up like, um, I used like the stickers and the texts and I just sh show, uh, like showed the tabs and I just posted on TikTok, like 30 seconds. You can learn a song. I think, uh, chasing Cars. I did did a tutorial on that. Yeah. It's like the easiest song ever. And you can literally never play guitar ever, but you can pick up a guitar and learn how to play it on the spot. Speaker 2 00:03:47 So that was my first one that did like over, actually that's not a lot. That's my first music one that did like over a million. Um, so that was cool. I was like, okay, I'm getting the hang of this, uh, sophomore year cuz I'm a senior now at Belmont. And then, so sophomore year I started, um, I I kind of sang a little bit, but not do well. Um, I was never the one to be like, oh, I was, came out of the womb singing like every other person in Nashville. It's not fair <laugh>. But, uh, I tried, I started singing like 2, 3, 4 years ago. So I haven't really So Speaker 1 00:04:17 You came down to do the guitar thing and the songwriting thing Speaker 2 00:04:19 Or? No, it was just everything. Just entertainment. Just entertainment. I just wanted to entertain people. But, uh, yeah, so then I started doing, um, I sat outside my dorm and then people would walk by mostly girls and then they would, uh, but the camera was just on me and I was singing, singing, singing Four strangers. So I would do the same thing, but it, the camera was just on me and it was so much easier, um, or so much simpler. And then, uh, that did well, got me to like a couple hundred thousand followers and I was like, okay, we gotta do something with this. I got something cool, let's continue. And I, I did like songwriting stuff too. I was like, all right, gotta put songs out, gotta do this, this, this, this. Um, so then I moved down here. And then Belmont is very unique in its sense that it has very, very talented people everywhere. So I was like, all right, I'm gonna sing with strangers now. So then I popped someone down next to me and I would literally just sit in like they, they got the gazebos and stuff. There's Speaker 1 00:05:12 So many gazebos and so many benches and so many opportunities to, so it makes sense. Literally, I just Speaker 2 00:05:17 Doing what you're doing. I would just yell at people and be like, Hey, do you sing? Get over. And I did like a hundred of those or something like that. Um, and then that happened and died down a little bit. Just I wasn't that consistent. Um, and then this one I was like, all right, actually I posted like two or three similar to what I do now, but it was like, I was, um, busking and then I had just a buddy go boom, boom, boom, filming the reactions, but it was messy. Wasn't clean. But one of 'em did. Did a little, did a little, got a little traction. So I'm like, okay, there's something here. Um, but it's not clean. It's not easy to watch. So then, um, I sat down a tripod now just wherever the girl is. And then, um, Preco have another phone for audio. Boom, place it down. And then I edit all of them too. So, Speaker 1 00:06:03 Dude, you're getting so much editing experience with that too, man. You got, but that, that I'm sure you would love, I'm sure you would love to have an editor, but that's, well, Speaker 2 00:06:10 That's what we're working on. Because when I don't, cuz I have enough content for like two months, like right now, but I just don't have time to edit all of them. So, um, figuring that out currently, if anybody edits which game, right. That hit me up. Uh, literally I just say like, just exactly how my videos are right now, I, I got splice, dude. It's the best app ever. It's like just on your phone, like no transferring from your computer to your phone and to TikTok. It's just right on my phone. I have the tripod steady and then I just do the punch ins, caption, boom, post it. But it takes a while. Yeah. It's like my poop activity. Like whenever I'm pooping that's what I go, Speaker 1 00:06:48 That's go, I mean, when you can get your work done, they, people say the bathroom, I'm a man's office is sitting, sitting, sitting on the shitter. That is part of, that's the office. I do so many business calls on there. I make sure dude. And then you let out, you let out a good little good little rip and you gotta hit the microphone on mute so they Speaker 2 00:07:02 Don't hear you. And I'm very like lactose intolerant, like lactose intolerant. But I just deal with it, you know, you deal Speaker 1 00:07:08 Well. Yeah. Because you're able to be, you're able to get um, be productive while Yeah. Speaker 2 00:07:13 It's, it's like, it's a good time just to like think about life. Yeah. And uh, yeah. A lot of, lot of cool things have happened on the toilet. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:07:19 <laugh>. Absolutely. Um, so you're from Wisconsin and Speaker 2 00:07:24 So I was born in Wisconsin when I was really young. Moved to Illinois. Speaker 1 00:07:26 So you're just a Midwestern guy. Yeah, we're Speaker 2 00:07:28 Just all over the place. Um, yeah. Never knew. Never knew. Um, south the south is so nice and I don't think I'm ever going back up. Yeah. Just cuz I just love it here. I Speaker 1 00:07:39 Love people here. That's, I, that's how I feel being from New York. But the Midwest, bro, there's some things about the Midwest. Like the Midwest to me is a, as a guy who's done touring as a, on the, on the crew on the cruise side of touring. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Wisconsin and Minnesota and Michigan and Illinois and Iowa and Nebraska. Those states, fuck, they're a lot of fun. <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:07:57 Lots of bush. I think it depends on where you go. Speaker 1 00:07:59 Well I'm saying like country music fans up there. Yes. Bush light ranch dressing, cheese curds, butter burgers. Like, I like going up there, getting a, getting a greasy Culver's butter burger. Culver Speaker 2 00:08:11 With some don't even Speaker 1 00:08:13 With some, with some cheese curds. Dip that shit in some ranch. Who needs ketchup? Who needs mustard up there? It's ranch or nothing. Ranch is a religion. I And so is bush light saying You betcha and don't Chino. Oh you Speaker 2 00:08:23 Can betcha. Oh you betcha. Speaker 1 00:08:24 I love it up. Like I enjoyed up there. Winter, Speaker 2 00:08:26 The Speaker 1 00:08:26 Winter's fun winter. The winters have to suck, but the summers like a Wisconsin Midwestern summer on a lake is just pristine to me. Like it's unmatched Speaker 2 00:08:35 Dude. It is so good. Every summer I was looking forward to going up to my cousin's lake house and that was before I like drank or like did anything. It's just, that's that's the shit. That's what you do. Yeah. Um, and if you, yeah, I mean every here, even here, the friends that I know that moved to Nashville from up north, they're like, oh yeah. Like we had a lake house. I didn't have a lake house growing up. I was like, I gotta go to my cousins once a year. They get to go every weekend. So summers are really, excuse me, are really cool. Speaker 1 00:09:01 It's like American pie bro. Like the scene where like when they come back from American pie too, when they come back from college and it's like, we we're gonna go to the lake, we're gonna spend the summer at the lake Speaker 2 00:09:10 And uh, uh, summers it, if you have a good group of friends, they're so fun. Cause I did so many fun things just cuz you have to make your own fun a lot there. Um, cuz especially up in Wisconsin. My summers were in Illinois, um, in a pretty, in a bigger city. It's like 150,000 Naperville. Um, so it wasn't as like, not boring, but there was a lot more going on there than, um, some places in Wisconsin. Like I went to a very small town school in Wisconsin. Um, and like there was not much going on there. Um, and I, I don't know, even talking to my buddies that stayed there over the summer, they were like, we just don't want to be here. Some like, sometimes the most fun thing were like Walmart trips. That was like, what? What the, that was the most fun thing Speaker 1 00:09:52 I did. Now we talking, going in the Walmart, we talking about, we talking about everybody sitting in the bed of their truck or No. Or people taking their tractors to the Walmart. I've seen this, I Speaker 2 00:10:01 Seen Speaker 1 00:10:01 Seen that. Take their tractors to the Walmart and they sit there, someone has like a boom. Someone has playing music, people are doing burnouts in the, in the Walmart. You're just sitting there loitering drinking beer in the Walmart cuz there's nowhere else to Speaker 2 00:10:11 Go. Yeah. People did that too. Um, I mean I I I loved it at the time. I was like, oh, this is college, this is sick. I can drink beer when I want, drink a lot of beer. I easily freshman 20 like right away. And then, um, then you figure out like what you, I just didn't know what I wanted to do there cuz it was so different there. Cuz no one else played like music. Do Speaker 1 00:10:31 You have a bullshit major up there? Speaker 2 00:10:33 I went there to be, I was business undecided. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:10:37 Which, yeah, that's like, Speaker 2 00:10:38 I was gonna be an accountant or something. Like I would be the worst fucking accountant ever if I, um, didn't change my major. Um, and yeah, I just always, I've been making videos. I I had like a, you know, Finsta dude. Yeah. Like Finsta in high school. I had a Finsta in high school that, um, couple hundred people ended up following just cuz I was like my YouTube channel. It was like my TikTok back then. Yeah. Like, I was just making funny videos. I would go to work and I worked at, like, I played against sports and I'd just fuck around and just make funny videos. And that's just when I knew I was like, all right, we gotta, this is the only thing that I, not the only thing, but this is like the main thing. I just love entertaining people like this, like, making videos, showing 'em off, like being, I'm just an attention hore basically. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, I kind of knew like pretty early on in like high school that I was like, all right, I gotta figure something out to do. What, Speaker 1 00:11:23 What was in a way when you could look at it as like the last straw or the thing that made you take the leap to be like, fuck it, I gotta get down to Nashville, or I gotta get to LA or New York and why Nashville? Yeah. If you're doing cause entertainment, man, you've got a lot of different hubs for it in the country. Yeah. But Nashville's its own thing compared to Nashville, New York, la, Boston, Miami. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. There's different spots you can go, but why? Speaker 2 00:11:42 It's, here's a small town, big city. I love it. Like, everyone comes from like a, not a similar background, but like approximately everyone wants the same thing, just chasing what they really wanna do. And everyone's really passionate and it's so collaborative. I love how like people, so many people wanna work together here. Yeah. Um, especially if you like got a following, you can do it like whatever. But, um, I love the people that I met here. Um, I love the weather. Um, it's happy drinking. It's awesome. Uh, when I, like, a lot of times it was just like sad, like nothing to do, let's drink here. It was like, all right, we're gonna go out here and you can drink too. Yeah. So I think that was like the biggest difference. Um, just what I've noticed, it's just, uh, and everyone's very, I mean, everyone's doing their dream so everyone's a lot more satisfied and like content and just wants to help each other out. And I love it. Cause I'm, I am like, I love having people over. I love helping out people giving everything. Like, I dunno, I'm just a big fan of the environment here. Um, I, I didn't have the best time I've been to LA when I've like had the following or whatever. And Speaker 1 00:12:42 That's one city I've never been to. I've been, the only time I've been to Cali is San Diego, but coming from New York I hear that it's like that. But the California version of that, so it's like, like the hippie version of New York in a way. Speaker 2 00:12:52 Like Yeah. I Speaker 1 00:12:52 Can see that can be a little dirty and grimy compared to place like this in Speaker 2 00:12:56 Nashville. Yeah. Nashville. Yeah. It's clean. It's a clean city Speaker 1 00:12:58 Too. Nashville is very clean. Yeah. Overall, yeah, there are some, some interesting spots here in town. Interesting. Speaker 2 00:13:04 That's good word for it. <laugh>. Um, but yeah, I mean, I don't know, it just made sense. I visited here the winter break of 2019 I think maybe. Yeah. And um, I went on to Honky Tonk bar and I just sang some Luke Combs. I was like, ah, this, this is pretty cool. This is pretty cool. Um, and I had like somewhat of a following then too, and just like, I got like recognized going off the plane and I was like, holy shit. Life is so much cooler here. Like <laugh>. Yeah. It's just like, it made sense and it feels just like I belong here so much more than where I was in Wisconsin. Yeah. Because I mean, Speaker 1 00:13:41 That's how I feel too. Being Yeah. Being from in New York, which there's a lot of, lot of hustle and bustle. Yeah. And it's a cool, there's, there's a grind and a, and a war workout thing and there's always be from New York, always rep it always where my yanks at all that shit. Of course. But to me it's like Nashville just feels like home because it, like you said, there is just that drive and that like-minded thing of succeeding but also succeeding in community, whereas Yeah. In other cities and in other aspects, bro. It's like, there, there's the, the grind, but there's this, this competition with it and all this behind the scenes kind of bullshit. Which I'm sure you run into and I'm sure you see it more because you, you, you're an interesting, cuz you have the, the influencer thing going. You're writing songs. Speaker 1 00:14:19 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you're a college student and you're doing the music thing. You've got like 3, 4, 5, 6 things going. Who knows right now to where it's not like some people just focus on the one thing. Yeah. You're kind of spread out amongst a few different things. Like what's it like the, um, like I'm sure you have friends that are like your, your TikTok friends that are like more influencer guys and girls, more content creators Yes. As opposed to like the songwriter. But now there's been that blend of that. What's it, it's being kind of involved in that movement, that revolution of content creators doing music. Speaker 2 00:14:49 Well dude, I think it's all like a little ecosystem. Like every single person has like an ecosystem. I think there's some people where it's like, all right, they have the songwriting really strong, really prevalent, um, and their content, no content there at all. Um, cuz I mean now it's to the point too where you can literally reach anyone like what your phone, like you can reach that many people. Um, and like I think about that too, like just imagine like a songwriter that wrote the best songs ever. Um, but I mean, there's no way that he can get 3 million people to know of him if just by talking to people in Nashville. And I know that's like how that's very, um, knowledge is and everything too. It's like very much who, you know. Um, but how many, the quantity of people that know you actually really helps too. Speaker 2 00:15:38 I think especially in the industry cuz you have that many more fans. And when it's something behind the scenes like songwriting and I dunno, like producing, um, you don't have to have like a following, I don't think. Um, but I think now it's the point too where you don't have to have it, but just the TikTok community and like having a following just helps you that much more cuz you can interact with more people. You can communicate with your fans more. Um, even like Louis Capaldi now and Billy Eilish have millions of followers on TikTok. They're not talkers, but they have millions of followers on it. Yeah. Um, I started on TikTok, so I'm a TikTok, but Speaker 1 00:16:12 Your, your Instagram's, it's crossed over to Instagram very Speaker 2 00:16:16 Well. Yeah. Instagram. That was like stupid. Uh, I was like at 12,000 followers one week and then I think literally a week and a half later or two weeks later, it was a million. Which stupid. Oh, Speaker 1 00:16:26 I remember. Stupid. I remember watching it go up and part of the way that don't, bro, part of the way that I heard you, I've seen a lot of the videos and seen a lot of the content, especially like people that are, that are in music and here in Nashville. Yeah. Everybody kind of takes notice of what's going on, who's got smoke is as they like to say. Oh, that's the word. Like smoke. That's cool. Like, like having smoke behind you, like seeing it go up. It was, it was probably within the last couple months where it was like almost every day I'd be like, damn, Well's got another 10,000 followers. Yeah. But how I got onto you was really, um, Alyssa Mochi. Yeah. Our girl Alyssa, who's she Speaker 2 00:16:56 Was in a video. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:57 And that did so well. Is that, is that, did you meet her through doing that video or did you know her prior? Or how'd you meet her? Cause I know she's in that creative Yeah. Speaker 2 00:17:04 Space as well. Um, this, this is kind of how like the videos work. Um, 80, 90% of 'em I set up my camera. Boom. Go like, there's just a girl sitting there. Get the guitar, we gotta go, we gotta do it. Um, 80% of'em. And then Alyssa, um, I met her, I think I just like heard of her and I, she wanted to be in a video and I was like, ah, sure. Just don't tell me your favorite song. Just go sit there. I'll come up to you. So there's minimal pre-production, if anything. But, um, yeah, I'm sure like a lot of the people in my videos are like, oh, he just came. It was just a random dude that came up to me and started singing songs. Um, which is great. Um, but sometimes it's so hard to capture those moments. So if I like, I'm like, all right, I know this girl really wants to be in a video. Um, I'll just like, be like, all right, go sit over there. Don't tell me a song. I'm like, that part's all legit. I'm like, don't tell me what wrong to do. Yeah. Um, cuz I wanna see like what they, what they throw at me. But um, yeah, that one, that one was awesome cuz she, and then she's like, oh no, like you need to go do this. And, um, she's great. I didn't know she, she's like, actually we have a lot of mutual friends too, so worked out great. Speaker 1 00:18:12 Yeah, she's, she's awesome. Then I saw you, there's a, it's been funny like going out to Red Door and I'm like, wait, I saw that girl in a Will collar video. <laugh>, I saw that girl in Will. I saw those two twin sisters in a Will Collin video. Like you've, that was Speaker 2 00:18:25 Awesome. You've Speaker 1 00:18:26 Done, yeah. You've done a shout. Shout out to um, Ashley and Christie Walls. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:18:31 Dude. Well it gets to the point too, where I've made so many friends through this, like now I can go up and talk to 'em Speaker 1 00:18:35 Now. Now have you had any go wrong where they're like, get the fuck away from me. Speaker 2 00:18:39 Uh, yeah. I got blooper video coming, dude. It's uh, it's just like not get, they're not, they're never mean. They're just like, oh no thank you. Cause I try to be like super, super, it's a random dude coming up to you trying to sing you a song. Yeah. Like that's just dumb. Yeah. But it, I do look like I come up super, I'm like, Hey you so sorry. You don't have to at all. If you wanna be in this video, perfect. Or sometimes, um, I'll get it on video where I sit down, Hey, can I sit here? No, I'm sorry I'm working. I'm Oh shit. Um, and I respect it. I'm like, oh, so sorry. Delete the video. No problem at all. Cause when they, when they say no, um, I don't even want to post any of it. They don't wanna be on video. Speaker 2 00:19:17 So I don't have like that many bloopers. I have like funnier bloopers. Yeah. Um, like where I mess up or like I, you know, do whatever. But, um, there was one time too, I went up to a girl. I was like, Hey, soon as I assume, um, let me try that again. And then I just walk away cuz I'm just like, that was not smooth at all. Like, sometimes I just like have brain farts and stuff like that too. But I mean, I am filming like three, four times a week and I can get like 10 videos outta just one time filming. So I have to go through like a lot. Speaker 1 00:19:46 Have you done 'em in different cities yet? Or have you Primarily just because I feel like now still just such a goldmine. There's so many different settings you can do. You can go to Centennial Park, you can go to Belmont, you can go to Bandy, you can go to Percy Priest, you can go to Midtown, you can go to downtown. There's so many areas. Speaker 2 00:20:00 It's awesome. And it's just so many pretty areas too. And yeah, there's like, especially on campus, there's just so many girls working. I'm like, this is perfect and Speaker 1 00:20:06 You're already there. Speaker 2 00:20:07 And I'm already here. So I'm like, I literally go to class, bring my guitar and all right, I'm gonna knock out 10 days of content right now because Speaker 1 00:20:13 I'd love to see you like in New York City trying to do that. And so I'm be like, get, get the fuck. Get the fuck outta here. Well Speaker 2 00:20:19 That's what I'm worried about cuz Nashville's so nice and everybody's like so welcoming and everything too. And that's the thing too, like, I don't know every single song, but you get outta Nashville cuz it's very country centered. Yeah. Uh, Swifty Harry Styles Ed Sheeran, like the classics I got down. You can name any Ed Sheer song. I got you. Yeah. Most of Taylor Swift. Um, but you go to New York and I'm, dude I can't rap. I'm like, I can't play most songs. So, um, it's a little niche in Nashville and that's like a lot of the bloopers. Like if I don't know the song, I'm like, oh, do you haven't I, I eventually sing 'em a song that they know just through a conversation, but I don't post Speaker 1 00:20:53 That. Yeah. And I feel like that's part of what makes it what part of what makes it such like a wholesome kind of moment. Cuz as the girls, the girls being into you doing it and doing it in Nashville where it is received well and it's like, yeah. It's like have you had any bachelorette parties on there? Speaker 2 00:21:09 Ooh, I'm posting one A today. Speaker 1 00:21:11 Cause I was gonna say The Bachelor, I was, Speaker 2 00:21:12 I was just editing it before Speaker 1 00:21:13 I could see the bachelorette parties be like, oh my God, we're in Nashville. This guy's singing this song. Like the excitement on there and it being so well received and it just, Speaker 2 00:21:20 It's just a win-win. I just like, when I found out like that it worked, I was like, oh this is gonna be awesome. Like, cause it's, there's no bad videos. I have messages every day like that girls wanna be in a video. Cuz not only is it cool for the girls, um, to, cuz even like some people that now I'm friends with that, like, after we did the video, we're talking, it's, they're just nice. And I'm like, all right, you're awesome. We can be friends. Um, they love it cuz they get it's sent to them by like everyone that sees it. Yeah. Uh, my one friend, even Alyssa, um, who was in it and then afterwards so many people were like, oh my God, like I saw you Nile horn duetted your video and everything too. And so she loved it. Uh, yeah. It's just a win-win for everybody. So, I mean, uh, it's hard to find that niche. It took me three years to figure out that that worked though. Speaker 1 00:22:08 But it took you three years of trying different things. Yeah. And grinding wasn't just sitting around and just taking a chance. It was putting in the work. Yeah, sure. Putting in that those hours and that, that man, that's Speaker 2 00:22:18 What people don't realize too. It is a mixture of like luck and grinding because you probably hear the same thing. Oh, post three to five times a day every day. If you want. I'll be TikTok famous for three months. Yeah. I mean you could, or you could just get really good at, um, figuring out what people wanna see. You could post three to five times every day for however long you want. Like if you're just posting some weird shit or stuff that you don't even care about and no one's gonna watch that. Yeah. So I, I I mean it took a while to figure that out too. Like, but I try to make my videos so it is as pleasing for everyone. I, it's just try to make it as easy for people to watch. Um, and enjoying. Yeah. Like, and I want, I want people to enjoy watching what I do. Speaker 2 00:23:01 And there's some occasions too where like, I don't know, promoting songs and stuff. Sometimes like, it feels like a chore to post and I don't want that. I want to be excited to post. And every single time when a video does really well, I am so excited to post it. Cause I'm like, I really am like yeah, I understand that this is entertaining and I can't wait for those people to see it. Yeah. That's like how I feel. And then there's sometimes too where I'm like, shit, I like, I haven't posted in like two days. Like either I can take my time and really make a good video or I can just BS something too. And I feel like a lot of artists, especially in Nashville, kind of think it's a chore and um, it's just something. It just happens. And it just happened to be something I'm really passionate about too. Um, but it's hard for some artists too cuz they can be really passionate about, uh, like songwriting and live performing. Um, but their social media, there, there are people far more talented. Oh my god, I think I'm in like the bottom 80%. Wait no, they're 80% <laugh>. I'm like down here. Yeah. In like Speaker 1 00:24:04 Low, lower Speaker 2 00:24:04 Percentage, lower percentage. It's like actual talent in Nashville. Um, I literally taught myself how to play guitar and never like, just started having vocal lessons. Um, but I hear these people, I go to li like I go to rounds and these people are insane. And I'm like, holy shit, I am one lucky someone, bitch. But then I'm like, all right. I have more strength in like the back end of like editing and um, kinda just understanding, uh, the app more. Um, when people I meet are just insanely talented like artists and they sing like, like like angels and, and I'm just sitting there like, how the fuck don't, doesn't do it. They have millions Speaker 1 00:24:41 Of power. Yeah. Well there's people, well there's people like back in the day it had to do with how did you play the radio game? How did you play? Yeah. This, how did you, were you a good inter Were did, did the folks from Rolling Stone enjoy sitting down with you? Yeah. And that's how you got traction. Now you control your own destiny. You don't need Yeah. You can just do it. You don't need to be invited on for an interview. You can make your own account and post your own shit. And if it blows up, it, it blows up and, and does. Great. Now for you, what's the process like of like how far do you want to take doing the, doing the artist thing, doing the original music thing? What's that transition of creative to to artists? Speaker 2 00:25:16 It's hard. It's hard cause um, I think it's just starting. Yeah. Just cause I wasn't consistent with music. Speaker 1 00:25:20 You, you've got how many songs out right now? Only Speaker 2 00:25:22 Two. You got two. Speaker 1 00:25:23 One Speaker 2 00:25:23 Streaming's Speaker 1 00:25:24 Pretty good. I mean, over 50,000 monthly listeners right now. I think I saw today. I maybe you don't. Oh, you don't even know. Yeah. Like, Speaker 2 00:25:29 See that's the thing. I'm not like that. Interested in that. I just love, I don't know. Uh, I love writing songs. I just started writing songs for like other people too. It's really cool. Um, cause I just started within like, about a year ago I started like really writing songs. Um, and I have a bunch coming out. I am like beyond excited for some of these to come out just cuz like I spent a year doing it, writing not too good songs. And then, uh, like in the last like two months, I've been really excited about 'em. Um, and I'm more proud. I'm, I'm personally more proud of the songs that I put out. Um, I feel like I got most of the crappy songs out of the way. Um, Speaker 1 00:26:01 And you found your crew of guys and girls to write with? I'm imagining Speaker 2 00:26:04 Writing thing. Yeah. You do. Speaker 1 00:26:06 Um, so that comes over time. Speaker 2 00:26:07 Yeah. Um, getting aw, getting away from Belmont is like one of the best things I think you could do as an artist too. And like just, um, using its resources. Yeah. But there's people in Nashville too that have been doing this stuff for a long time and it's interesting reading about it or like try trying to learn about it. I'm so bad at school. So like, it's interesting like learning these things in class, learning, listening in class, Speaker 1 00:26:34 Absorbing this information, Speaker 2 00:26:35 Hearing things in class and then hearing Speaker 1 00:26:37 Exactly. Speaker 2 00:26:37 Yeah. And then, um, like, and then I'm like, oh, I have a right with one of my favorite artists after this. I'm not gonna be that excited about hearing about it. I'm just gonna go do it. And naturally you can just go do it. It doesn't matter. Like a lot of, and that's not how it works for other industries at all. Like, you have to get your degree, you have to finish taking these classes to then pursue your career. And here I was just like, you can just go do it. I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna go message him, see if he wants to write and stuff. And it's so cool that I got that too. But then I think, oh, I'm so lucky that I have the following. And then I'm like, oh wait. But I also put in a couple hundred thousand hours so it just goes back and forth. Um, it just all worked together pretty well. And, uh, the future, I have no idea. Like, I like to say like, I just started acting like in music videos and stuff too. I love that shit. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:27:26 Dude. Dude. Like a Swiss Army knife. Like pull out this tool and this tool and that tool and this tool. Speaker 2 00:27:31 Well, I, I don't know. I just love Speaker 1 00:27:32 It all. It's cool. It's fucking exhausting dude. It Speaker 2 00:27:34 Is. Well cuz even the, what I do in the videos, that's just acting, I just like, I I'm not not really out. Like I'm not every day thinking I need to go pick up girls now. Yeah. Like it's just like a kind of a confident act I put on Yeah. Into, I think you go up to these girls. Um, but Will, a year ago, two years ago would never even talk to a girl. Like, it's so crazy. Like, um, and then yeah, I get in music videos and then, uh, just the first one I was like, I started acting that and then they were like, oh my God, like how long you been acting? I was like, oh, like 10 minutes. Like, and they're like, oh really? In fact, we thought you were like legit, legit. I was like, awesome. Um, Kendall Lins keeps video dude, Speaker 1 00:28:15 But fucking love Kendall. Yeah. That girl's a a little badass. She's, she's a, she's been a homie for a long Speaker 2 00:28:20 Time. She's sick. Well we smooched a bunch in the music video. That's how I Well Speaker 1 00:28:23 Done. How Congratulations. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:28:26 Well that's how, that's how I met her. And it was so funny getting the texts and they're like, and she's like, are you okay with kissing? I was like, shit man, I gotta get paid to kiss girls this. Get paid to serna girls. I get paid to kiss girls like this sucks. Uh, my life is hard. But, um, no dude, it's, it's all fun. It just, and the, they needed like a, a male lead and stuff. I was like, oh yeah, I can do that. And then now I'm getting hired for other music videos too. I'm like, this is, this Speaker 1 00:28:53 Is awesome. That was for friends. They kissed, right? Yeah. That wasn't even Speaker 2 00:28:55 Video that it was a great video. Great team around me Speaker 1 00:28:57 Too. It's a great song. Kendall's great dude. Dude, it's sketchy. That's a cool, cool project. Speaker 2 00:29:00 Be involved with See was really fun. And it's crazy that that was work for me. That's the, it's crazy that what I do now is work. Like school is the, like the thing that's driving, like the thing I have the least interest in right now. And that's crazy cuz like a lot of times too when you're a senior, like your school, like your career should be like the coolest thing. But like, I'm like, Speaker 1 00:29:20 Oh, you're already in it, bro. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:29:22 So I'm staying in school. I'm getting my, I'm graduating, um, in May. Speaker 1 00:29:26 I was in kind of a similar spot when I was, when I was in college, when I was my senior year. So I went to college up in Jersey. Okay. Shout out Ryder University Small school up in, in central New Jersey, which is half of it, half of the area calls Philly, the city. The other half calls New York, the city. It's just that the armpit of America, central New Jersey, armpit of America, greasy, you know. Yeah. Um, lots of Wawas. But um, but I was like running my college radio station up there. I was, I wanted to, Speaker 2 00:29:50 That's what I went Speaker 1 00:29:51 Into do. I wanted to be a radio guy, which that makes sense. Talking. Speaker 2 00:29:53 Yeah. I changed electronic media and up in Wisconsin to do radio stuff. Speaker 1 00:29:58 Yep. Yeah. So I worked at my, I worked at my radio. That's Speaker 2 00:30:00 Really that dude, even Steve Corll, I just found out started in like radio. Yeah. And it's radio's like dying and it's sad, but, Speaker 1 00:30:07 But, but the what they teach you about being a broadcaster mm-hmm. <affirmative> and being a personality and coming up with a brand for yourself and those that are working with you and constructing a show, even if it's short form content. Like I, my senior year of college, I was interviewing like bigger acts. I was meeting, I was getting the, I was going to probably like, I was skipping school to go to concerts out of state to get backstage interviews with guys. Like at the time they were up and comers, but it was like Luke Combs, Brantley Gilbert, like six Wallen, like all those guys, like 20 15, 20 16 mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But my professors were all like, you're just going to concerts and partying. I was like, no motherfucker, you'll see no. And now I'm here. Fast forward. And That's awesome. All these years of doing that, which is the same thing. Speaker 1 00:30:45 You're, it's like, is this the essays, they're important, this, the, in all that internships, they're important. But what you are doing right now to a point, growing a following, playing rounds, playing shows, building, learning how to like, entertain people. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, when you wanna be an entertainment guy. That, that real life experience that you're getting right now while being enrolled down here in college Yes. Is such a huge thing. Again, the college stuff's important. It's, but to do it, but to be getting the experience while you're also doing that, it's huge. Man. And Belmont and going to school in Nashville, you've got that advantage. Like, it's awesome. Speaker 2 00:31:20 Yes. Dude. Belmont was a great option, um, in that sense too. But, um, I just think about like the whole, I don't know, I just see a lot of people too that, um, don't put in that work. Yeah. Um, and they're so good. There's so many talented people that just like, all right, if you just for an hour every week, like just made a bunch of content, it would just make that so much Speaker 1 00:31:42 More difference. Or at least thought about what can I do to be different? What's the best Yeah. What, what do, what is, what do I want the world to. Speaker 2 00:31:51 Yeah. And that's the thing too, like I've always been like a little, little different. Like, um, I don't dunno. I never was good at school. Never. Um, so of course like my parents hated that, um, Speaker 1 00:32:03 ADHD kid. Yeah, same dude. Yeah, same bro. What, what meds were you on? Meds or no? Uh, no. Speaker 2 00:32:08 Uh, um, uh, not for adhd. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:32:12 Yeah. Cause I was, I was a meds. I was a meds kid. Oh Speaker 2 00:32:15 Yeah. No, I didn't, I didn't age Speaker 1 00:32:16 Eight or nine up until, up until the end of college. Speaker 2 00:32:18 No, they didn't. No, I didn't do any of that. Um, but I probably should have been on something cuz Yeah. That was the number one thing my friend said to me. Like, can you fucking sit down? Will, can you just stop Speaker 1 00:32:30 Ion deficit hyperactivity Speaker 2 00:32:32 Disorder? Do. Well that's, that's just the thing. Like it's hyperactivity. I can't sit down and watch a movie unless like I need to. Yeah. Like otherwise I have to be doing something. Like even if like, it's good to take days off and stuff too, but even if I do, I'm like, I feel guilty. I'm like, I should be doing this, this, this, this, this. And I mean that's like the one compliment that I get, um, from people too. They're like, I don't, I, we don't see people like go out and film that much or like do the other stuff too. I just love it though. Speaker 1 00:33:00 Well I do the ADHD thing and like, there's a lot of like, they, I mean they definitely was over-diagnosed back in its heyday, like when we were coming up as kids. Um, but like Michael Phelps ADHD guy and part of what, what his thing was, what he, when people ask him about it, it's like he views it as having an extra gear. Like that hyperactivity, if you can channel that bro, it's like most people have have four or five gears. We channel that shit. Like I channel it, put it towards podcasting, doing rounds, doing what I'm doing. Tour management. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, all that shit. I, I can get to gear seven or eight. You do it for your content stuff. Yeah. You can get to gear seven or eight where some people in their bodies might just have four or five. We got Speaker 2 00:33:37 That. Speaker 1 00:33:37 That's such a good, if you know how to channel it, that's the thing. You gotta know how to channel the energy. Speaker 2 00:33:40 And I got lucky, like if you have ADHD and you have to do like sheet work for being like an accountant, I'm like, oh, oh God, I would Speaker 1 00:33:47 Be terrible. Spreadsheets, Excel spreadsheets, dude. Fuck that. Speaker 2 00:33:50 No, but when you have ADHD and um, I'm out doing like public filming, I'm like, oh quick, we gotta go right here. Okay, we gotta go over here. Like, alright, we gotta go this, this, this. We gotta do this. Um, and it works. Um, especially with like, um, yeah, I think writing helps a lot too. Sometimes if you get like really into a song, um, Speaker 1 00:34:09 Cause you get that, you have that obsessive thing in the personality. Yeah. It's that thing in the brain where Speaker 2 00:34:12 That's good too. Like I, I need to do like this, this, this, this, this. Speaker 1 00:34:15 Yeah. Which is why you're able to knock out as many videos and as much content as you are in a week because you just have that gear where you're like, I need to do Speaker 2 00:34:22 This. See, I noticed that too. Cuz then I sit down and I have to edit and I, I like editing. Like it's not, it's not the worst job in the world, but I sit down, I'm like, I do not wanna do this at all. Like, there's so many other things that I wanna do right now. I'll sit down and edit and be like, all right, I should probably just go write a Speaker 1 00:34:36 Song. Why do you think you haven't, why do you think you're still editing? Like why do you think you haven't found that person yet? Um, what's taken it this long? Speaker 2 00:34:42 I haven't really put much effort into finding a person. Okay. Makes sense. Um, and when I do, um, I just, that's like kind of the obsessive thing too. Like I really want my videos to, um, have the same feel and I put like little jokes in my captions and stuff too that's like from my brain and not a captioner could do it. Um, and I'm like, gosh, shit. Like, I don't know. Like sometimes it's funny, like I did serna like a big, um, serna. I, I sang to <laugh>. I hate that <laugh>, but I sang to a group of girls celebrating birthday. Speaker 1 00:35:15 You played for a group? Group of girls Speaker 2 00:35:16 I played for, yeah. Serenading. God, I'm just picturing you watch that seventies show. Yeah. Fez dude, he is trying to sing, sing to Jackie. I'm like, I didn't, that's not what I'm trying to do. Speaker 1 00:35:26 I was said it at you Jackie. Speaker 2 00:35:28 Yeah. <laugh>. I'm not gonna do the voice. But, um, <laugh> dude, it's like, I just wanna make people's day. It's not about like, oh my God, I'm gonna get her number and stuff like that too. It happens sometimes, but most of the time it's just like, all right, have a good day. Bye. Like, and it's just a really fun in action. She can be a little bit happier cuz she heard her favorite song acoustic And uh, I get content and it, it turned into that. It turned into like, oh, Riz God. Which, you know, it's funny. Riz Speaker 1 00:36:02 God, Speaker 2 00:36:02 Well damn I get called like people when I'm out in bars and stuff, they're like, wizard of Oz. I'm like, dude, Speaker 1 00:36:09 Wizard of Oz. Let's just, that's just ridiculous. Let's Speaker 2 00:36:13 Just do like Speaker 1 00:36:13 Will. You're like, Hey, I'm Will. Nice to meet you. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:36:15 Well it's, you know, I'm, Speaker 1 00:36:16 Has that been an adjustment too, like going in the red door like the other, because I, I get it on a, on a smaller scale with doing the rounds and we've had a couple things that have, that have popped with this podcast and been in, like, I'm in the, in the country music game, but not as an artist. Like I'm, I'm a personality within it on, on a different scale and on a different realm than what you're in. But what's, yeah man, Speaker 2 00:36:36 It's cool. Speaker 1 00:36:36 What's it like when was, what was one of the first times where you were like, oh shit, it's, it's different now. Like I can't walk the, like walking in the red door and tin roof is a little bit different. Yeah, of course Speaker 2 00:36:46 It was cause that like, I don't know. I just feel like a hot girl. That's like the best way to put it. I just like that. Probably not the best way to put it, but <laugh> like, I don't, I mean it's cool getting like bought a drink from someone that really like is a fan and you like Speaker 1 00:37:01 You got wait, you got, you got girls buying drinks for you. Speaker 2 00:37:04 Yeah, Speaker 1 00:37:05 Bro. Speaker 2 00:37:05 Sometimes. Not all the time. Mostly it's guys. Speaker 1 00:37:08 Mostly it's dudes. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:37:09 Dude. Like 86% of my following is dudes. Really? Yeah. It's up there. Um, I Speaker 1 00:37:14 Wonder if dudes are picking up on the confidence thing from you doing Speaker 2 00:37:18 That. I hope so, dude. It's awesome. Like, Speaker 1 00:37:20 They like they could be, that's like self-help Speaker 2 00:37:21 Shit. You know what I saw? I saw um, a couple guys, uh, do what I do. They went up to a girl and one guy, um, he's from Australia. He did it. Um, and it got like couple of million. I got tagged into a bunch cuz they're like, oh. Trying to be like Will Conn like fuck, that's awesome that he is like that since, since some guy seen me do it. They can go up to a girl and just sing him a song. Yeah. Cause what's the worst that's gonna happen? She says no, you might get tased one time. Um, but Speaker 1 00:37:51 A little pepper spray. Speaker 2 00:37:52 Yeah. A little pepper spray goes away. It'll build character. Yeah. But the fact that guys go up and sing girls' songs now just cause That's awesome. Yeah. And I mean I don't care that that cuz some guys like straight up copy it and I'm like, eh. Okay. Speaker 1 00:38:05 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:38:06 Um, or clearly stage it. Um, and I'm like, all right, well they're doing it like for the wrong reasons. Uh, they just wanna make videos and I mean, I am doing it for content too, but to me, like all I think about is like, all right, this girl's gonna be smiling by the time I'm done. Um, and I know that it'll make a lot of people happy watching it just cuz of the message I've got too. It's not really like a, like a I'm gonna get your number. Speaker 1 00:38:31 Do you, have you gotten any, any like hate comments or hate messages? A couple or ball busting stuff? Speaker 2 00:38:36 Everybody's back over. It's like, it's just like, oh, it's just staged. And you know what? I think I broke something cuz I'm not, um, no. I mean everyone has their own thing, but I, I don't see myself dancing in front of cameras. No. Or ever being shirtless or, you know, doing, doing the face. Yeah. I don't ever see myself doing Speaker 1 00:38:56 That blue, blue steel. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:38:58 I can't Speaker 1 00:38:58 Do that. Yeah. I can't Speaker 2 00:38:59 Either. Um, but there's some guys on there that, you know, are good looking dudes or whatever. Yeah. And just can fly with that and being like, you ever feel like this? Here's a song I Speaker 1 00:39:11 Can't soup rub. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:12 I can't do that. Yeah. Um, it's some guys' thing. It works for them. Yeah. It wouldn't work for me. So I had to kinda like maneuver around that too. And I'd never wanted to be that guy cuz we'd get, we'd make my friends would make fun of guys like that. Yeah. Um, that are like, I don't dunno, there's some really talented guys that like really sing and really do this cool stuff. But then there's the other part that do like stage stuff and like really cheesy stuff. Yeah. I didn't wanna be cheesy. Uh uh like, and I think dancing and I know taking your shirt off and doing whatever. To me, like that's just not my thing. That's, I feel like that's cheesy if you do that for a video or like for another purpose. I get it if that's like your thing. But if you're trying to promote, um, I dunno yourself or whatever, it's like, eh, I can't, Speaker 1 00:39:58 It's not as authentic. Speaker 2 00:39:59 Yeah. I like being authentic. And that's actually, that was like the best compliment I got too. Um, from a gig gig after and somebody saw my tos wanted me to go play at an event and they appreciate like, you're just real. Yeah. I was like, yeah, yeah. I'm not putting on like, it's a little bit of an act, but I'm, I mean, I just talk to whoever, either way. Like my friends that know me, I will go up to any stranger and try to talk to them. Speaker 1 00:40:21 Well that's what I love about seeing you at when we're, when we're out and like bump into each other. The other night you were rapping, which we're gonna get into some packers talk here in a second. Oh yes. Okay. We can probably like with, with, uh, with that. But I saw, I was like, oh shit, who's I, I saw you coming over and like, you were just talk. You can just have a conversation with anybody. Like that people skill. That's not something that everybody has. Speaker 2 00:40:42 That's true. And I feel like it's a mixture of, cause I was a loser in high school. Like I didn't get invited parties. Like, I just was like, all right. Just, I was more of like an observer. Um, and I just wasn't, I don't know, I just didn't do much. I was still on the baseball team and everything too, so I was like, not completely a loser. But I mean, I didn't um, have like a good friend group. Like one solid friend group. I had a bunch of friends, um, from different, like I was on the baseball team, but then I hung out with, uh, the math guys. Yeah. Like, and like I would go hang out with like Cole and Jack and then I would go, I would go hang out with Vin and, uh, Speaker 1 00:41:16 VIN sounds like good character. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:41:18 No, it was like Perna and, um, oh, there's, there's so many just fun guys. Kevin, Kevin Chang and I'll just go hang out with them. Like, I didn't care. But in high school too, there's everyone I like, you cannot talk to her. Will, what are you doing? Like, like I don't care. I'm, I'm gonna sit here and talk to my boys, like not my boys, but I would just hang out with whoever. I didn't really, I never got like the whole, this person, they can't come to this party. I was like, what the, what? Um, I never got that. And I, and high school, that doesn't do you Well. Yeah. Cause if you're friends with, even friends with like the math guys, cause I was in like all honors and AP classes and shit. Speaker 1 00:41:56 So you didn't like school, but you were, you were good at school at a certain point. Speaker 2 00:42:00 Um, I did the bare minimum to get ass. So like, I would, I would do an essay like the morning before it was due. And I You Speaker 1 00:42:07 Were, you were a, you were a, what they call like what Dickie, Dick Vitel says ptp, primetime player. You got it done in the clutch at the very end. Speaker 2 00:42:14 And my teachers all know I just like, I was most likely, uh, my high, my high school, uh, superlative was most likely to peak in high school. Speaker 1 00:42:22 Really? Yeah. They got that wrong. Speaker 2 00:42:24 They did. But um, yeah, I mean, it was like, I didn't really care. I was tried to be, I tried to be like friendly as much as I can. Um, I was always doing goofy shit around campus. I got in trouble for riding a scooter around one day. Just like all the sorts of stupid Speaker 1 00:42:41 Crap riding scoot. Where were you riding at the you guys? Speaker 2 00:42:43 Oh, I tried to jump the stairs with it and I broke my ankle, so that was probably my fault. Tape roll the clip. See, I want, I want someone to just Speaker 1 00:42:50 Be like, yeah, you want that? Yeah. Um, Speaker 2 00:42:53 But no, I was always doing stupid stuff. I didn't really care what people thought. Um, and that was just after I cared way too much about what everybody thought. It's like a good mixture. And then there's still sometimes too where I'm out, I'm like, I can't be here. There's too many people looking at me like I get like that too. So I don't know what it is, but, um, sometimes I'm in a mood where I'm just like, I could literally just, I just wanna do a flip or like, I could do whatever right now. Like in public I can go up to talk to anybody. Um, and then there's sometimes too where I'm like, get me home right now. So it's a mixture like I'm not always like that. Yeah. But it's a majority of the time. Speaker 1 00:43:26 Yeah. And I feel like that's a huge thing with confidence is the art of not giving a fuck is kind Speaker 2 00:43:30 Of what you dude confident. Dude, that's, I'm saying like, you don't have to be confident, you just can't give a shit. Speaker 1 00:43:35 You have to be not giving a shit and just feeling comfortable who you are. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:43:39 I mean, I feel I'm just comfortable like with myself. Yeah. Um, and it's a fine line between like confidence and like cockiness and I, yes, there is. I understand why like, sometimes I can be like cocky or viewed as cocky and I try to do that and that's why I get all anxious. Cause I'm like, oh, am I being too much right now? Then Speaker 1 00:43:56 You're second guessing and then you get that. Yeah. You get, that, you get, when you get home from that night out or that next morning, you're like, did this person does this person? Oh yeah. Think I'm a douche bag because I said this or because I didn't say this. Just Speaker 2 00:44:07 Cause, well, it's just cuz like, I don't know. I never mean harm. Like, it's just so, I'm just so grateful for like, for where I am. Like why would I ever wanna like, put anybody else down and like, oh, I buy people drinks. Like I don't buy girls' drinks cuz um, like I'm trying to pick 'em up or whatever too. And you know what's crazy? That works more like if you just go up to a group and you're like, you guys are freaking fun. Let me get your guys around. Yeah. It's not like, oh, you guys are pity. Like, what's up? I just, I mean, that literally happened last night. I was like, you guys are so fun. Let's, let's all get a drinks together. Speaker 1 00:44:39 Let's, let's hang like with the whole group. Let's, let's party. Speaker 2 00:44:42 Well I just said like, I just want everybody to have a good time. That's, if you ask my friends too, they're like, yeah, that, that dude is like anal about everyone making us sure we have a good time. Like we're doing lake days. I'm bringing my kayak, I'm bringing the speaker, I'm bringing the tubes for people. I'm bringing the cooler like I want. I I love making things more fun. Yeah. Than they should be. Cause that's what life should be. And I think that's, I have more fun like when I go out because of that too. Like not giving a shit and just wanting to make sure everyone else has fun. Um, and I feel like some people appreciate that. Some people take advantage of it, but it's mostly just all good intentions. If you just want good intentions, you purely just want to make people smile. Which has always been like my goal. I think it's just more fun than like, having secret little intentions, you know? Especially when I'm drunk. I'm like, fuck it. I would buy everyone in here Around, what, Speaker 1 00:45:30 What are you, what are you buying a shot of if you're going, if tequila we're at the, okay. You're a tequila guy. Okay. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:45:36 I do like tequila. Okay. And even last night too, um, Speaker 1 00:45:39 Last night at Red Door. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:45:40 Literally last night I was I next to two guys and they recognized me. I was like, oh, I appreciate y'all. Let's get a drink. And then it's just fun like that. Um, and yeah, some people are like, what's, what's this guy up to? What's he doing? Like, why is he doing that? Like, I, I, it's just a mixture of um, good responses and bad responses. Because some people too, if you buy him a drink, they're like, oh, what? Why dude? Like, what you trying to do? Speaker 1 00:46:06 Oh, okay, I'll take this shot and give it to someone else. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:46:09 <laugh>. I'm like, what? And that's new to me too. Cause I'm 21, so I haven't been 21. Yeah, you I'm not very used to the bar. I'm getting used to the bar scene. Yeah. But um, like when I first got there too, I didn't know like how to like close a tab and shit like that. I was like, Hey, so can I pay for that now? And like, I just didn't understand it. And then, um, so it was cool seeing that too. Um, just kinda the change and I don't even know what I'm talking about, but <laugh> I'll wrap Speaker 1 00:46:35 It up. Hey, you were talking about, um, how it makes you, it makes you smile, like going out a guy that's made a guy that's made you smile a lot in your life. Aaron Rogers, you're a big Packers guy. Big go pack, go guy. Yes. Aaron Rogers getting ready for his retreat and I dunno if you saw this, did you see the thing he's doing his Darkness retreat? Mm-hmm. So basically Aaron Rodgers, as we know, proud North California hippy folk. Um, he is, they he went on the Pat McAfee show and he was talking about, they were asking him, of course, Aaron, are you gonna retire? You're gonna stay in Green Bay, you're gonna do this, you're gonna do that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he was saying he's taking four days to go into a, um, it's like a, um, a solitary, like, it's like, it's like you're just by yourself in a cabin. Like, like all dark. You're just in darkness for four days. They they give you meals and stuff. Yeah. Like there's a bathroom, but you're just by yourself in this cabin for four days. And he said with what? Speaker 2 00:47:24 Nothing. Just, Speaker 1 00:47:25 I'm sure drugs. I would imagine. Oh, I would imagine he's tripping and doing Aaron Rodgers thing. I mean, he's confirmed. He said that he does mushrooms and acid and stuff Speaker 2 00:47:32 To keep himself sane. Yeah. My innocent mind, I was like, oh, did he bring his iPad or something like to play? No, Speaker 1 00:47:37 No, nothing. Like, it's just Rogers in the, in a cabin in the woods with someone dropping off mul to him sitting in the darkness. And he said when he comes out of that, he's gonna have his clear head and decision on what he wants to do for his next career move. So where do you think Aaron Roger's gonna go? Could you, is it, would it be weird to see him somewhere other than Green Bay or, uh, or are you not a huge sports guy? Speaker 2 00:47:59 I'm not really a big sports guy. Speaker 1 00:48:00 I just, I I saw you wearing the Packers. Speaker 2 00:48:02 Packers. Yeah. No. Sweater day. I'm the other day. I'm like, I I can't wait to go to the Packers, uh, tits game next year. Oh, it's be sweet. It's here. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:48:09 Have you been to a, um, Speaker 2 00:48:10 Never been to a Titan's game, but I have been to a Packer Speaker 1 00:48:12 Game. So What's wild about? So I, I got lucky that it was the, um, the Giants kicked off the year this year. Oh yeah. Against the Titan's game. Oh yeah. You got, so dude, when you go to a Titan's game and you're an opposing, you're, you're, oh yeah. It's the team from where you're from. It's like a 60 40 split of visiting fans to tell fans. Oh, Speaker 2 00:48:29 You think so? Fans? Oh Speaker 1 00:48:30 Yeah. Oh yeah. That's at least how it was. And I used to bounce on Broadway. Mm-hmm. That was what I did my first year in town. Oh really? I was a door guy at Whiskey Row Speaker 2 00:48:36 My first year. You beat the shit on me, dude. Speaker 1 00:48:38 I saw dumb shit. Well, I was the guy. I was, I was the, I was the smallest guy we had. We had like all ex UFC fighters, MMA guys, like football guys, all these different people and whatever. But, um, what, um, what's wild about the, um, about you're gonna see so many Packers fans here, dude. Speaker 2 00:48:56 Well, okay, that's, it's Speaker 1 00:48:57 Just one thing. Sea of green and yellow. I love it. The content that you're gonna get that week when they come in, you walk around wearing your Packer sweater or your Packers jersey and you do cont you just go up to a group of cheese heads, bro. It's gonna be great. And you just play 'em songs, bro. Speaker 2 00:49:10 Okay. Oh, well, you know what? Speaker 1 00:49:12 And then you're partying with the cheese heads, bro. It's gonna be great. You could probably, if you start, if you start, Speaker 2 00:49:16 See, I don't, don't know how long this will go. Well, if Speaker 1 00:49:18 You start playing it out now and you start like, like getting these, like doing gigs or whatever mm-hmm. You imagine playing like the official, like Packers tailgate, be sick at Nissan Stadium sick. How wild that would be. Talk about Bush Light Chiefs curds and Oh Speaker 2 00:49:30 Yeah. You set up, set up a stage that's like, and that's the thing in Nashville that's so possible. Yeah. To just like, Speaker 1 00:49:34 That's what I'm saying Speaker 2 00:49:35 It talk to some people. Yeah. And just be like, all right, I'll host the packer pregame. That'd be Speaker 1 00:49:39 Sick. Yeah. Now do you, do you have a team working with you, like at all right Speaker 2 00:49:42 Now? Um, so no. I didn't until like two months ago and I just got a manager. Speaker 1 00:49:46 Well, congratulations on, on one, having someone that really believes in you enough to put, Speaker 2 00:49:51 Put in the work Speaker 1 00:49:52 With it. But also two, to be able to get some of that stuff off of your plate. Bringing on a manager is great for that reason. Yes. Because it's, it's something that, that in a way is like fulfilling and, and feels great. And like you have someone that's a ride or die with you and, um, in the trenches with you, but also like, yo, I don't have to do all this stuff that I was doing and I have someone that's there to help me make these business decisions that as a content creator and artist, I don't want to Speaker 2 00:50:16 Have to make, I would be such an idiot without him. Dude. Speaker 1 00:50:19 Um, what's his, plug him a little bit. How did Speaker 2 00:50:21 You guys meet? Yeah, Chris Perkins. He literally just texted me and he called me and I was like, oh crap, Speaker 1 00:50:24 What do I add? Good. That's a good manager, Speaker 2 00:50:26 <laugh>. Oh yeah. Well, he's, yeah, he's Fillmore's. Uh, he's like managers Fillmore. Oh, cool. And, um, Josh Melton, um, and Danny p uh, and uh, we, it is just such a good group of guys and we, I actually met him through acting. I do, I was acting in some stupid Facebook content, like the bad ones, like the bad bad ones, like my first video. They, uh, it's like reels and stuff. So, uh, my first day of work I was handed a sonic uniform and the video now has like 20 million on like TikTok, a couple million other places. I handed a Sonic uniform hat Rollerblades. They're like, Hey, can you be a terrible sonic employee for a video? I was like, fuck yeah, I got this <laugh>. So I went there. I was terrible. I was like, I love like Will Ferrell and like, uh, a lot of like physical comedy guys. Speaker 2 00:51:13 Jim Cury. Yeah. So I was just being an idiot. Um, and so many people like bought it and like, thought it was real. But, um, I mean that video is so old, like, who cares? But, um, that's how I started, started it. And technically that is acting. Um, and that's what I said too. It's just like a different form I guess. But, uh, I started doing that and then with, um, Chris's now wife. Um, and it was just a funny thing. I didn't even know Chris. And at this point I had like 700 million, no, 750,000 followers. Brains all still, Speaker 1 00:51:43 Still a fuck ton of followers. Speaker 2 00:51:44 Still a lot of people. Um, but I mean, I didn't know what I wanted to do with it, so I was like, all right, I want to try acting and stuff. You and some of them did really well. Like, oh, I was a, I was a stranger in an elevator and Libby, her name is, she's like, she's shitting herself and it did stupid well and it's just like, Speaker 1 00:51:59 Just you being with a girl farting in an elevator Speaker 2 00:52:01 And she just had to poop herself. And like, and it was just like staged. And the video now is that like, it got me like 7 million when I posted it just for fun on mine, but it already got like 50 million on her page. And I'm like, this is like, awesome. Um, so basically everything on the internet isn't real, so I try to make it as real as I can. Yeah. When I do my shit. Um, cuz I see a lot of fake shit and I'm like, I don't wanna do that. I like the, I like the real public interactions. Yeah. Because you, you see it in people, like they're genuine. And, uh, that's what I think helped me a lot too. Cause I see the fake shit. I'm like, all right, we're not gonna do this cringy stuff. Even though it helped me learn a lot about like, uh, content creation and making viral content. Um, cuz that's basically my job. That was my job there and it just helped me personally too. Um, but no, I did some stupid stuff for that job and that was like the best part-time job ever. Cuz uh, they're based in like, um, like little South and like a big mansion and I just got to go film there and I do trick shots and shit. Like, it was the best part-time job I could ever asked for in college. Is Speaker 1 00:53:01 That down in like Franklin or, Speaker 2 00:53:02 Uh, bell Meade Ade area. Yeah. Um, Adley. And, um, Speaker 1 00:53:06 Was that one of the spots during Covid when the Paul Brothers came in and they threw a big party at a mansion Speaker 2 00:53:12 Maybe over, it was probably over there because Speaker 1 00:53:13 I remember they came in and like Covid because Nashville was When did you move? You moved Speaker 2 00:53:17 To I've only been here for like a year and a half. Okay. August of 2020. So Speaker 1 00:53:21 Like June of June of 2020, like May, June of 2020, like two, three months in with this being such a bar town, everything like opened back. It was like a soft open. Oh yeah. And you had like soft lunch. No fucks given like bars, like Kid Rocks was doing like packing out the bar like two months into Covid. Like Well, I Speaker 2 00:53:39 Remember seeing that Speaker 1 00:53:40 Paul Brothers came down and did through a big ass party. And then there was another thing in East Nashville where they called it, I think it was the, the fashion house. And that was a big thing too, where they opened, they threw this big party and it got, got some, got some wild press. But that's when I heard Big Mansion in Belle. I thought of thought Speaker 2 00:53:56 Of that. There's a bunch. Yeah. I met my celebrity crush doing that Speaker 1 00:53:59 Celebrity crush. Speaker 2 00:54:00 Sean Johnson, dude. Speaker 1 00:54:02 Oh yeah, I've met gymnast. Yeah, I I did a pod when I used to work with the, uh, Musk on Bloodline guys. I did their podcast, the Grapevine podcast. They're awesome. Yeah. They're they're good dudes. And, um, who's their, what's their husband's name? Yeah, I think it's Speaker 2 00:54:14 Andrew. Andrew something. Speaker 1 00:54:15 It's Andrew something. But we had him on, I'm just jealous. We had him on their podcast and most of the questions we asked were about Shawn Johnson <laugh>. She's gorgeous. Speaker 2 00:54:22 Well, dude, when I, because my mom, my sister and my cousins all did gymnastics. My sister was like a great gymnast. She went to like UPenn, like D one athlete. Um, and I turned out like this. I'm pretty good at pickleball, but that's about it. <laugh>. Um, but, uh, she, I was grew up watching gymnastics and I saw, I think that was my first crush. I pointed to the screen. I was like, mom, who's that? Realized I was straight back then. But I was like, I like her Speaker 1 00:54:46 <laugh>. Um, have you, um, being a, a gymnast guy and that being your first crush and having some social media buzz, have you shot your shot with, um, who's the girl down on lsu? Oh, living Done. Have you shot your shot? Followed Speaker 2 00:54:59 Her. I followed her. I don't wanna Speaker 1 00:55:01 Did you get a follow back? Speaker 2 00:55:02 Don't, I don't think so, Speaker 1 00:55:03 Because you got a lot of follows on there, like you, Speaker 2 00:55:06 So I thought, I feel like I could, I could potentially. Well, there a group of girls that I sang to were like, oh no, we know Livy, we got, there are LSU girls. Like, oh, we know we could either Izzy do that. I was like, really? All right. Um, listen, she seems like a great girl, but of course I would a hundred percent just sing to her just to make her smile. Well, that's Speaker 1 00:55:26 What I'm saying. I want, I wanna just give you the opportunity to face to face. Yes. Sing Sarah. Perform in front of her. Yes. Speaker 2 00:55:33 No Speaker 1 00:55:34 Will are we, we can say yes. But you would serin her. Speaker 2 00:55:36 I would, I would serin her. Yeah. I would be, I sing to a lot of people, but I would serin her. Speaker 1 00:55:39 Well, we gotta look up, is Vanderbilt gymnastic or has Vanderbilt done? Um, has LSU come up and played against Vanderbilt and Speaker 2 00:55:45 Gymnastics? Speaker 1 00:55:46 That's Speaker 2 00:55:46 A good play. Compete against, compete Speaker 1 00:55:48 Against. Then you've got a management team now, now you've got, you've got the social media smoke and you've got a manager behind you and you've got LSU girls connected. Speaker 2 00:55:57 I think this, this is just the recipe for greatness. Speaker 1 00:55:59 This is just the recipe for, for an impeccable con impeccable content video. Speaker 2 00:56:05 I think it needs to be done. Speaker 1 00:56:06 Yeah, absolutely. Speaker 2 00:56:07 Livy dun Livy Dun Speaker 1 00:56:08 Dude. And I mean, would she probably watch if she likes country music and does TikTok? I she does. She's definitely seen the video. A video at one point or another. Speaker 2 00:56:16 Yeah, but she's just, I just wanna make sure that she knows that she'd be different. Like she wouldn't be, it would be a different, she wouldn't be just another girl I sing to. Speaker 1 00:56:22 What if she asked you to, what if she asked you to sing a ridiculous song? Speaker 2 00:56:25 I would do it. Speaker 1 00:56:26 What's the most ridiculous one that you've done where you're like, you have really pulled it outta Speaker 2 00:56:31 Your ass? Well, you know, some guys, some, cause Speaker 1 00:56:32 I'm sure a lot of it's Morgan Wallen. Speaker 2 00:56:34 Yeah. You get a lot of t Swifty Morgan one. Shawn Menez. Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran, yeah. Um, 1975. I just got recently Ade I got, um, lot of beebs, lot of Biebers phase, Speaker 1 00:56:47 A lot of beebs, lot of lot of Speaker 2 00:56:48 Believers. And I've been, I'm personally, I'm going through a Justin Bieber acoustic phase. The best phase to be in. Oh, Speaker 1 00:56:52 I wonder why. It's good to know. Well, you probably see how many requests you get. You're like, I gotta have this shit, the Speaker 2 00:56:57 Repertoire. Well, it's so good. Like I'm a big Justin fan now. That's all I'll say. And Miley Cyrus love Miley Cyrus. Um, but I did get, uh, oh God, it was, um, someone, uh, you gonna die. I don't really care if you cry today. I'm afraid to die. All my friends are dead. I forgot that guy's name. But it was that, it was that song like a girl's listening to that. I was like, first of all, what are you going through right now? And second, I'm gonna busted out because I learned an acoustic version a while ago for a gig. And I'm like, this is awesome. Yeah. It's, it's just the rappers, rappers get me every time. I'm so bad at that. I just embarrassed myself. Speaker 1 00:57:34 You talking about Miley Cyrus? Have you done the Flowers One yet? Oh yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:57:37 Saw you probably that she saw uh, she saw it. Yeah. Cuz uh, her PR or whatever reached out and were like, oh, showed Miley video too. You, I was like, oh my God, I did not sing that song well at, at Speaker 1 00:57:46 All. Dude, this Libby done thing can totally happen. You got Miley Cyrus's team reaching out over a cover. Speaker 2 00:57:51 We, I'll, I'll talk to her. I'll have to talk to her. We'll make it happen. Um, I think I have the girls. I have the girls' Instagram that knew her. Speaker 1 00:57:59 Okay. That's bigger than the TikTok. The Instagram dms are much better than the Speaker 2 00:58:03 TikTok dm. Yeah. You think I just DM her TikTok Speaker 1 00:58:04 Dms? What Speaker 2 00:58:05 Should I say to her? Should we do Speaker 1 00:58:06 That? You're like, yo, Speaker 2 00:58:07 Hey, I don't know. Speaker 1 00:58:08 Im sweet boy over there. I'm Speaker 2 00:58:09 Not really a big dm. I'm not really a big DM guy. Um, I think it's sometimes weird and uncomfortable. Like if you DM Speaker 1 00:58:15 A girl, it's weird. Uncomfortable. Well, that's why I prefer I've done it. I prefer the slide is that you gotta have a reason. Like, like the slide gives you a reason. So look and see if she put a story up. Speaker 2 00:58:24 Oh. Speaker 1 00:58:24 Oh, she's got a story up. I'm sure she does. Yesterday was Super Bowl Sunday, by the way. Congratulations to the, uh, Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah. And the referees in that game. Wild game. Speaker 2 00:58:33 How do you spell Liv Speaker 1 00:58:34 Live? Liv l what is it back when? L i d Speaker 2 00:58:37 Dunn producer. How do you spell Dunn? Speaker 1 00:58:39 D u n n. Speaker 2 00:58:40 Oh, I think I found her all right. Oh, wait, I don't know. She's got Speaker 1 00:58:48 The blue check. She got, Speaker 2 00:58:49 She got that blue check. Speaker 1 00:58:50 She definitely has that blue Speaker 2 00:58:51 Chain. Oh, I know. I'm following her on Instagram or TikTok. So here, we'll just do the math here. We can go to my followers, look her up there and then go to her Instagram. This is great. I'm glad we are doing this. Speaker 1 00:59:00 Me too. I wanna see this happen. Speaker 2 00:59:02 Me too. Okay. Oh, D u N N. Holy shit. One 7.1 million followers. No, she doesn't follow me back. But, Speaker 1 00:59:08 But the LSU girl, the what's we're looking for the, the girls that Speaker 2 00:59:12 You in the video. Just five on Instagram. All right, I'm gonna go for it. What should I say? What's a good, you, you DM a lot. Speaker 1 00:59:19 Michael. Go in, turn on the mic. Sweet play. Speaker 3 00:59:22 Um, mine. Um, oh, let's see. Got on here. Speaker 1 00:59:27 Let's Speaker 2 00:59:27 See. What, what should I say? Just like any favorite songs Question mark. By the way, Mary, if you Speaker 3 00:59:33 Slide up on, I don't know this, this would be hard to slide up on. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:59:38 Oh, is that what well, Speaker 1 00:59:39 We're talking about sliding up Speaker 2 00:59:40 On. Oh, still repping. Still repping. She's got, okay, so I'll do the slide up. Yeah. I'll say, um, oh, what's something good? What do mean? Speaker 1 00:59:49 Well, what's the story? I gotta look at the story and see. Speaker 2 00:59:51 I just want to be like, Hey, I think I love you still Speaker 1 00:59:54 Repping, Speaker 2 00:59:55 Can I see you a song? Speaker 1 00:59:57 Yeah. And then see if she recognizes that. I mean, that is, that is a tough one to slide up on. Still ing check mark. And you've gotta remember, so if she's not following you, you're in like the request section. I know with like a million other Speaker 2 01:00:11 Guys. But I mean it like, there's probably It filters. It filters based on followers. Speaker 1 01:00:15 It does, it does. There's gotta, because there's gotta be guys that message her multiple times a day every day. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:00:22 Just like asking for like bath Speaker 1 01:00:23 Soap. We don't Yeah, dude. She has like private security. They have like sec like extra levels of security that travel with the team because of her being on the team. Speaker 3 01:00:30 Do didn't, do you have the blue check yet? No. Are you verified? No. Speaker 1 01:00:34 Yeah. How's how we gotta make that happen? Speaker 2 01:00:36 I don't know. Speaker 3 01:00:37 You got manager now. Speaker 1 01:00:38 Management. Yeah. Management. Speaker 2 01:00:39 You got management. Well, usually it takes like the label does it, but like, we're manager. He, he got, he's giving, Speaker 1 01:00:43 You're independent. You're your own label, bro. Speaker 2 01:00:45 Like facts. Yeah. Period. Amen. Learn that word or period. Queen. You ever say that period Speaker 1 01:00:50 Queen? What's that? Yeah, Speaker 2 01:00:51 It's just like, yeah. Go. You know, Speaker 1 01:00:54 I don't know. See I'm not good at the TikTok. I'm not good at, Speaker 2 01:00:57 It's not a TikTok thing. You just heard. Probably every other girl at the bar is probably like, oh, slay. Speaker 1 01:01:02 Slay. Oh, I've heard that. My ex used to say that all the time. Oh, slay. Oh yeah. My queen. Like that kind of shit. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:01:07 Yeah. You get it. Period. Period. Speaker 3 01:01:11 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:01:11 I don't, Speaker 1 01:01:12 It's ridiculous. Speaker 2 01:01:13 I just, I thought that was common knowledge, but apparently not. Speaker 3 01:01:17 I couldn't say what like, my dms are a little just are in nature of what we do is like, it would, trying to do more Speaker 2 01:01:24 Than there's something I could, trying to do more than sing to some of these girls, you know. Oh, Speaker 1 01:01:26 Magne plays the drums. He's good at that percussion. You can play the Speaker 3 01:01:30 Bongo's wearing the number nine and you can only imagine where my mind's going. Speaker 1 01:01:33 Oh, number nine, <laugh>. Oh yeah. Oh, macwas tall. Yeah. I can't say that. That's a little, that's a little that's, Speaker 2 01:01:39 See I'm not that like Speaker 1 01:01:40 He's, he's from Alabama, man. He could be Speaker 3 01:01:42 Yours. We have, I mean, Speaker 1 01:01:44 Cousin. Cousin talking some Speaker 3 01:01:45 We have too. <laugh>. We Speaker 1 01:01:46 Can get away Speaker 3 01:01:46 With it. Speaker 2 01:01:47 Uh, dude, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not like the whole Well, Speaker 1 01:01:49 Well no, what I was Speaker 2 01:01:50 Saying, not good at this. Just, I just be, I just gotta be myself. I think that's what works the best. Well Speaker 1 01:01:54 You gotta be yourself. Authenticity, authenticity's key. Yeah. Well I was saying all you could message, you could slide in on living. Speaker 2 01:02:00 I like how a lot of probably girls think like, oh guys are just guys will just try to slide into any girl's story. No, it's calculated. There is, we are talking this out. Calculated thought. Try to figure out how I get to sing Livy Dunn. So, well, Speaker 1 01:02:12 Well what's the girls', um, the LSU girls? The mutual friends that you have? Speaker 2 01:02:15 Yeah. Hers. What are their names? Speaker 1 01:02:17 Ella? Yeah. Find her slide in into slide into her. Speaker 2 01:02:20 Yeah. Well she's great. They were the nicest girls ever. Speaker 1 01:02:22 That's what I'm saying. And they were so fun. Use the mutual connection, Speaker 2 01:02:25 Bro. Okay. You're right. You Yeah. Speaker 1 01:02:27 Slide into that girl's Danna. I will. I will. And then that girl will get you to where you need to go. Speaker 2 01:02:32 Hey homie. Hey Speaker 1 01:02:34 Homie. Yeah, I like that. Speaker 2 01:02:35 Just cuz you know, I gotta make sure Livy knows that I'm not talking to anybody. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:02:39 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:02:40 Um, I'll be like, Hey, how do I get to sate Livy? Or what should I DM her? Speaker 1 01:02:47 Yeah. What should I DM her? Speaker 2 01:02:49 Um, yeah, that Speaker 3 01:02:50 Message is definitely gonna get relayed. So Speaker 1 01:02:52 Yeah. We'll get relayed. Speaker 2 01:02:53 Yeah. We'll figure. Okay. This is good. All right. So sometimes the best way to get to someone, Speaker 1 01:02:58 This just friend. Well it's all about who you know about. It's about who you know. This is who you know. Speaker 2 01:03:03 How do I sign it later Speaker 1 01:03:03 To get you to, where do you want get you to who you wanna know. It's who you know to get you to who you want to know. Speaker 2 01:03:10 Idea Speaker 1 01:03:10 What we're saying. This is good Speaker 2 01:03:12 Then. And then you add an lol. Oh, Speaker 1 01:03:13 You add an lol. Keep it Speaker 2 01:03:14 A little cheeky. How do I turn it Livy or what should I DM her? Lol. Speaker 1 01:03:17 Yeah. Are you a big emojis guy or not really? Speaker 2 01:03:20 Uh, not really. See Speaker 1 01:03:21 I've become an emoji. Speaker 2 01:03:22 I like, I like the uh, the nervous one. Like the, like, you know, like the Yeah, the sweat. Speaker 1 01:03:26 The sweat sweat mark and the smile one. I've done that. I've done that a lot. And, um, I've become a like devil horn. Oh, that's good. And the, and the muscle. I send those and it's, I look at myself and I'm like, that's cringy. See, Speaker 2 01:03:40 I don't, I think I'm an okay texter. I think that's like, cuz I think I'm just, I just do a good job of, uh, showing my personality through texting. Cause some people are very like, strategic and make sure like, oh, they're punctures good. Speaker 1 01:03:50 You No, you're not writing an email, bro. You're not writing an email Speaker 2 01:03:53 Text. Yeah. No. I mean, I say text short form. Actually some people think it's annoying though. But I'll text. Like I don't do paragraphs. You do. I text individuals. I'm like, oh bet. Let's do this instead. By the Speaker 1 01:04:03 Way, because it's separate thoughts. It's like you would Yeah. Separate thought. That's like a conversation where there's a pause. Exactly. You're not just gonna do a full run. Speaker 2 01:04:08 No, I think I'm pretty good Text or too, girls have said that to me too. They're like, oh, it's fun texting you. Speaker 1 01:04:12 What, what have they told you you're bad at? Speaker 2 01:04:14 Uh, I'll just be like, all right <laugh>, we're done. We're done texting. Or I'll be like, FaceTime. Speaker 1 01:04:21 Oh yeah. I like the FaceTime. I'm, I'd become a FaceTime guy too. I like FaceTime. I wasn't always a FaceTime. I Speaker 2 01:04:25 Actually like voice audios. I like doing that. Like when I, if I'd like start talking to someone I love, just like, I don't know, like hearing people's voices too. Because then sometimes, I don't know, like I would get, girls would like gimme their numbers too. And then I like, either I'd just see 'em in a bar or something like that too. And then I audio and then I'd get back and it's like, oh my God, it is how good meeting you this. And another we can, we use staring it. I'm like, oh, sorry. Like, sometimes it works in the other way too, where you're like, oh. Speaker 1 01:04:53 Have, have you played, have you played, uh, have you sang a song over voice audio to a girl in text? No. Speaker 2 01:04:59 No. Speaker 1 01:05:00 I was gonna say that would be a bit much. That would Speaker 2 01:05:01 Be a bit much. Um, I feel like, well I've s sent friends like, oh, like tell me if this is a stupid idea for a song. Speaker 1 01:05:06 Well, yeah. Demos and Yeah, music, music friends. Speaker 2 01:05:09 That's one thing you can, Speaker 1 01:05:10 I'm saying you're trying to, you're trying to pick some, you're trying to pick up a girl. You're not serenading over no FaceTime. Maybe Speaker 2 01:05:16 Over sometimes Snapchat if I'm like, if they just want a song, hear a song. Do Speaker 1 01:05:20 You do, um, TikTok live a lot or I try to Instagram live and stuff. Speaker 2 01:05:22 Sometimes it's fun. Enjoy, enjoy. I do like it. Yeah. Um, yeah, I'll sing. I'll go on there and sing a couple songs. Speaker 1 01:05:28 Your fan base is pretty, pretty giving on that stuff. Cause I know TikTok lives can end up, they they can help out the Speaker 2 01:05:33 Creators with Oh, really? Money with. Speaker 1 01:05:35 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:05:36 Try to Speaker 1 01:05:37 Don't that stuff. You don't or you don't or you don't see it as that? Speaker 2 01:05:39 No, I don't need money. I'm, I'm a college kid, so I just like go out and I just sing Speaker 1 01:05:42 People For you, it's just growing your bass. It's Speaker 2 01:05:44 Just beer. Just beer money. So that's like Speaker 1 01:05:46 It. Yeah. It's just beer money. Well, Speaker 2 01:05:47 Sometimes I'm like, all right, if you really wanna hear a song, I get 500. Like, um, like comments every five seconds. Like, I can't see, I can't play all these songs. I'll be like, all right, if you really wanna hear one, you can Venmo me. And some people are super nice about it too. Yeah. But that's not like the main reason I do it. Yeah. It's just fun to me. It's so fun. Like even I'm with my friends sometimes too. Do Speaker 1 01:06:07 You go live with other people? Speaker 2 01:06:08 Yeah, sometimes. Or like, I'll be with people and I'll be like, Speaker 1 01:06:12 Gang Speaker 2 01:06:12 With your crew. I know a lot of people that do it for money though. And that just doesn't seem as fun. Yeah. Um, Speaker 1 01:06:16 And it feels like work. Speaker 2 01:06:18 Yeah. I don't, I don't want to ever work. Speaker 1 01:06:20 I don't work. That's, that's why we do what we do, bro. Yeah. I, we dont ever want to feel like we're, feel like we're working and stuff. So you were saying you got some, some new, actually, let me hit you with some Nashville questions. So you've been here for Nashville? Year and a half. Um, best, uh, best Mexican food in town. Speaker 2 01:06:33 Las Palmas. My Speaker 1 01:06:34 Boy. That's my bro. Shout Speaker 2 01:06:35 Out. Shout out to Oscar at Las Palmas midtown. He hooks me up with free queso every time I'm in there. You Speaker 1 01:06:40 Get the, you don't have the free queso program? Speaker 2 01:06:42 No, dude. That's Speaker 1 01:06:43 The, we're just homies. I think you're in. Where do you get the, the free queso? Speaker 2 01:06:46 Oh, I signed up like five times to get free queso. But <laugh>, it's gotten to the point now where I just go. Speaker 1 01:06:51 I like Palmas too. I go the one in Hermitage. That's my, that's my local one. Well Speaker 2 01:06:54 The $5 Margs Tuesdays. They're, I'm gonna do it before tomorrow actually. $5 Margarita Jumbos. Speaker 1 01:07:02 Oh, jumbos. Yeah. Dude. Salt, salt, salt on the rims. Sugar. Sugar. I'm a sweet guy. You're a sweet guy. Sweet boy. That's how, that's how we call him Michael. He's a sweet boy. Yeah, he's a sweet boy. Um, and then, um, for you, um, I go Speaker 2 01:07:13 With that quesadilla too. Yeah. With a bunch of queso. That's, dude, I'm Okay. So very lactose and to I, but you know, you just deal with it. So my friends, no. Speaker 1 01:07:21 Do you go to the, have you been to that um, that ice cream, uh, sandwich place across from Red Door? No, Speaker 2 01:07:26 Baked bear. Oh, baked Bear. I actually haven't. I Speaker 1 01:07:29 Was gonna say that is a lactose intolerant. Oh God. If you're saying fuck you Speaker 2 01:07:32 Stomach. Well I, let me tell you, I'll have plenty of time to edit on the toilet after that. That'll be, Speaker 1 01:07:36 Yeah, you probably look forward to doing it. Cuz then you just sit there and edit and Speaker 2 01:07:40 It's, it's like a joke with my friends. They're like, dude, do you have some problems? I'm like, I know. I know. Speaker 1 01:07:44 I just, it's like, it's like masochism. We're put your stomach. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:07:47 Yeah. We're past, we're past that. All right. It happens. Speaker 1 01:07:50 You ain. You. Um, what's like, your favorite, what do you think is like one of the most underrated spots in town? Speaker 2 01:07:56 Oh, Speaker 1 01:07:56 Um, I think it could be early for, for like hanging out Speaker 2 01:07:59 Bars. Yeah. Lemme think. I think we have, Speaker 1 01:08:02 Cause Belmont you got a lot of good stuff right around campus. Yeah. But there's other spots, like people, there's Speaker 2 01:08:06 Spots in Germantown. Yeah. I'm, I'm Midtown. Dude, I could have walked over here in two seconds. Oh cool. Yeah, it was awesome. Um, oh shit, man. Underrated spots. I think Kung fu Speaker 1 01:08:17 Me. I agree with that Speaker 2 01:08:18 Dude. Speaker 1 01:08:19 I just, I don't hang out there enough. You know, it's like a nationwide concept. Like there's other kung fus started out in Austin, Texas. Oh, gotcha. So it's a tech, but the, but you could have so much that, that to me is a great place to hang because it's Speaker 2 01:08:30 Fun, man activities. You can play bags. And I, I said, I know I said bags like that, but Speaker 1 01:08:34 Yeah, you're from the Midwest bro. Of course you say bags. You, Speaker 2 01:08:37 So you Speaker 1 01:08:37 Say it. I say corn hole. I don't say bags, I say cornhole. Speaker 2 01:08:41 What do you think of like when I say I wanna go play bags? Speaker 1 01:08:43 What do you Mid Midwestern. Do you like the you betcha guy. Speaker 2 01:08:47 Yeah. What cheaps Speaker 1 01:08:48 You got? Yeah. You got bush light in your veins. Speaker 2 01:08:49 Yeah, I got, ah, yeah. What cheap Speaker 1 01:08:52 Makes sense. Speaker 2 01:08:53 Yeah. Cheese cards. Um, yeah. I don't think I have that actually. Every time I go home now people think I have a southern accent. Speaker 1 01:08:58 That's what they, I get told, dude, you're talking like a fucking hick cowboy. That's what I get told in New York. And then I come down here and I still say awesome. And coffee and bagels and yeah. Pizza. Like I have my name. Speaker 2 01:09:07 No, I get, I get like I say Bagel Bagel. Speaker 1 01:09:11 You say it like that. Speaker 2 01:09:12 How do you say it? Speaker 1 01:09:13 Bagel Speaker 2 01:09:13 Bagel. Speaker 1 01:09:14 You say you say it like Beagle Speaker 2 01:09:16 Bagel Speaker 1 01:09:16 Bag. You say it like bagel. Speaker 2 01:09:18 You don't even know. I call it theater. You like, it's a theater. Like so many little things where I was just like, am I just, that's Speaker 1 01:09:24 Some southerners say that where they're like the Georgia Theater. Speaker 2 01:09:27 Yeah. Sometimes I was like, I don't know if I'm stupid or I just am like, talk Midwestern. So like, it's funny to like hear different people here. Like I have some guys that like are real and I have the bad habit too of imitating people or like doing accents, dude. Speaker 1 01:09:40 But if you're down here, everybody's from everywhere. It's so funny though. You're picking up on so many different accents. Oh Speaker 2 01:09:45 My God. Dude. I went a whole night being British. Speaker 1 01:09:47 Did you really? Oh, Speaker 2 01:09:48 A little bit. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:09:49 That had to be a blast. Speaker 2 01:09:50 Oh. It was a little fun. Especially, especially when you, uh, get a few drinks in and you can really, you can really bring it out Speaker 1 01:09:58 Your, your British accent sounds like you ever see. Um, you're definitely into like TV shows and movies and stuff if you're, Speaker 2 01:10:03 Yeah. So I actually Speaker 1 01:10:05 Ted you in the Ted la Ted las dude. You sound like I fucking Speaker 2 01:10:08 Roy Kent. Yeah. I love doing that. I love doing those. I used to do that. I used to do accents like that all the time. But yeah, dude, I season threes coming down, dude. Yeah. I used to a lot of impressions. Speaker 1 01:10:19 I heard that it was just gonna be, they're cutting it after season three, which makes me feel, because I'm like, they could have that show. That's good show. It is a great show. Speaker 2 01:10:26 Um, yeah. Well, yeah. Who's the douche in that show? Ja. Uh, Jamie. Speaker 1 01:10:31 Jamie? Yeah. Speaker 2 01:10:31 Oh yeah. Speaker 1 01:10:32 Yeah. I was gonna say that first fact that you did sound like him. Speaker 2 01:10:35 Yeah. You got, yeah. Yeah. After Washington las too. We were always doing that. Just talking like this and uh, uh, too hot to handle. I think. I think they do that all the time. Just sound like idiots. It's funny. Speaker 1 01:10:47 Can you, you ever watch letter Kenny? Speaker 2 01:10:49 Oh, Canadian. Canadian One Canadian show. Oh dude, I watch Trailer Park Boys. Speaker 1 01:10:53 Oh dude. Yeah. Pack Speaker 2 01:10:54 Brick. Like you watch Trailer Park Speaker 1 01:10:55 Boys, you can do bubbles. Bs Oh, Speaker 2 01:10:58 He goes like this. I just want fucking play with my Cuties face. Just Speaker 1 01:11:03 Murphy, Speaker 2 01:11:05 Dude. I fucking do that all the time. Speaker 1 01:11:06 And then Julian's just constantly walking around with Arum and Coke. That's never empty. Rick. Speaker 2 01:11:10 Yeah dude. I fucking love that shit. Well cause that's pretty, pretty Midwest like a boot. Like Yeah. That's why my like uncles talk. Speaker 1 01:11:16 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:11:17 Oh. Will look at you little TikTok or ah, like I get that all the time. Speaker 1 01:11:22 Go pack gold. Speaker 2 01:11:23 Oh yeah. Go pack Gold. Oh yeah. Oh Speaker 1 01:11:25 Geez. Have you, have you mastered the Southern accent yet Speaker 2 01:11:28 Down here? Yeah, dude, I like just kind of put some twang in sometimes. I got, I got a buddy from Kentucky and it's real southern like, it, it's like something you can't notice. Like this is not how I usually talk at all. But some people think like, oh that dude's southern. Um, you can go. And I got one friend Jason, who sounds just like, he has like two brain cells, but I love him. Speaker 1 01:11:48 Name's Jason. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:11:49 His name's Jason. He has a pet pig like in the house, if that helps. You love the guy. Yeah. He's gonna probably be like my security guard cause he's just huge and just beats up people. He's like, and sometimes I make the joke on the phone with him. He called me the other day and he's like, Hey Bill, what, what? What's up? What y'all doing today? I'm like, ain't Bill that. We ain him ain't down there. <laugh>. Like, that's how I responded to him. And he is like, oh shit, really? I was like, you understood that? Like, it's like, it's funny messing up with messing with him a lot too. But, um, love that man. But, uh, a lot of people too just are from like Midwest and New York and stuff. Maryland. Speaker 1 01:12:23 Yeah. Do you got, do you got a Northeastern accent? You got like a Boston. Oh, I know. Cause people confuse Boston and New York. Speaker 2 01:12:28 No, Speaker 1 01:12:28 Dude. Boston. I got Boston. The A the the ar is like Har Harbor turns into Abba. Oh yeah. Or like the, oh, turns the, Speaker 2 01:12:36 Oh yeah. Like this. I, I think of um, Speaker 1 01:12:39 It's kind of British almost. It's like, it's, Speaker 2 01:12:41 I think of like Seinfeld and uh, like friends, how they talking there Speaker 1 01:12:44 Sometimes? Oh, KRA Kramer and Costanza Jerry. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:12:47 That you just want a coffee? Yeah. Yeah. Coffee. You that him dude. Yeah. All I have to do is like Halloween. I get into Halloween. Um, Speaker 1 01:12:55 Cause what was the costume this year? Speaker 2 01:12:56 Well, I was Steve Irwin. So I, I got down on Die and then I watched the YouTube video on, had to talk Australia. Speaker 1 01:13:02 How many, what did you get? Did you get like the four? Speaker 2 01:13:04 Dude, I was drunk. Like, and I Speaker 1 01:13:05 Uniform. Well obviously you get drunk. Yeah. But like, how uniform Speaker 2 01:13:08 For you? It was, I had a snake around me and all I was doing, I was like, if I find a girl that's wearing an alligator costume, I need to marry her tonight. Like it, I got, I got into it too. I was Peter Parker. I learned how to do a flip back flip just cause I was dressing up as Spider-Man. Wow. And then, um, oh yeah, I love Halloween. Just being like an idiot. Cause it's just like, I can just act Favorite, Speaker 1 01:13:26 Favorite costume as a kid? When Halloween was really Halloween. Like, you're going to school and shit. Dude, Speaker 2 01:13:31 Let me think. Cuz I don't remember a lot of my costumes. Um, Jedi. I was also a Jedi and I was, I was fucking cool. I don't care what the, the say Speaker 1 01:13:41 What do you like using the forces? Shit, I Speaker 2 01:13:43 Was fucking cool. Yeah. Every Walgreens entrance dude. I was like, oh yeah, Speaker 1 01:13:47 <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:13:49 I was like, yep, I did that shit. Um, I would make videos all the time too. Like, I would have, I would've fish wire with me. Yeah. And I'd go tie, I would just freak my teacher out. I did that at school one time. I dressed up as a Jedi and I put, uh, fishing, fishing line around her sp uh, around her stapler. And I sat close enough too where I did, I went, I did one of these. I went Speaker 1 01:14:07 <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:14:08 I Speaker 1 01:14:08 Caught it. I just caught it. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:14:10 I was a, I was not a good student dude. I was the type of kid I put, put my staplers or not put my Speaker 1 01:14:15 Teacher's. No, you weren't a good student. You were just a kid. You weren't being challenged enough. Speaker 2 01:14:20 Yeah, I was just, I was just challenging. Speaker 1 01:14:22 You were challenging. Yeah. Yeah. You were like, all right, this shit ain't hard. I'm gonna, I'm gonna show you what. Yeah. What, what hard. I'm gonna make you not wanna be here as much as I don't wanna be Speaker 2 01:14:30 Here. Oh dude, man. I mean, I think is, it is a love hate. There was no teacher that was just like balanced. Like, had no impression on me. It was either they loved me or Speaker 1 01:14:39 They hated me. What was the first thing you ever got detention for? Speaker 2 01:14:41 Um, Speaker 1 01:14:42 We definitely both had Speaker 2 01:14:43 Detention. Yeah. First, first grade I stole some animals. I was a little animals. I just loved animals. I wanted to be a zookeeper. And I Speaker 1 01:14:49 Didn't have like, stuffed animals Speaker 2 01:14:49 Or like, no, they were like toy plastic animals. And I stole 'em. Took Speaker 1 01:14:52 'em home with you? Speaker 2 01:14:54 No, just to lunch. But I got in trouble. I didn't, I didn't get 'em home. I wasn't smooth, dude. I'm not a good criminal. Um, caught. Yeah. Um, Speaker 1 01:15:02 I stole a Yugo card once. Speaker 2 01:15:04 Nerd. Speaker 1 01:15:05 I know, right? <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:15:07 Just kidding. Um, what else did I get in trouble for? The scooter that was, I did go, um, oh, I was a big pen gun kid. I got in trouble cause I started a pen gun war in my classroom. Pen Speaker 1 01:15:16 Gun. What Speaker 2 01:15:16 Do you mean? Speaker 1 01:15:17 You just, oh, was that the rubber band on Speaker 2 01:15:18 The Oh dude. Well, we, we made it so I was like the head, uh, me and my buddy Michael Olney, bro and Ethan Boris. We would, we would get these, we would just go to the store, get a bunch of, uh, or we'd go to like the laws and found where there's just a bunch of empty, like rubber bands, pencils, pens, take 'em all apart, go home, make literally deadly weapons that punctured each other. And we would go home, make 'em, and then bring 'em to school. And people would be like, oh, I want one. Be like, all right, gimme, gimme your, gimme your, gimme your pencil box. Let me cook you up something. And I would go around, I would undo all the pens. We had all, all sorts of different parts. I would lay out my springs, I would lay out my rubber bands. Speaker 2 01:15:57 And I would be like, all right, come here. You want some what you want? You want rubber band action. You want auto, you want multi, multi-shot? Let me know what you want. But then I was a kid, so it was like higher pitch, but then we'd do it. Um, and I would make pen guns. And then one day too, my teacher caught me and my buddy, we would go across a little classroom. These things were powerful. Yeah. This was spring. And we would be able to press a button or like literally just sit here and I would press a button and now I could have shoot a pen like into your chest, Speaker 1 01:16:23 Bro. And accuracy, because it's moving so fast. Speaker 2 01:16:25 It it was sick. I thought it was awesome at the time. But then they, Mr. Gamboa busted us and uh, we got to pinch for that. They, they're dangerous. I'm like, we know it's my middle name. Speaker 1 01:16:36 <laugh>. You ever shoot him across the lunchroom? Oh yeah. I feel like the, I feel like the cafeteria would be the ideal spot for it. Speaker 2 01:16:41 Oh yeah. No, but you gotta be careful in between. You gotta be careful of the sweet lunch ladies though. We couldn't no crossfire in Speaker 1 01:16:46 Between classes and the hallway. Oh yeah. I feel like that's like you're hiding behind lockers and shit so you don't catch one to the cheek. Speaker 2 01:16:52 And you know, we thought about that too. Like how cool would like a Nerf battle throughout the whole school be? Yeah, we just did that. But more dangerous. Like it was their fault. It was, it was their fault. We made 'em cuz they didn't let us do Nerf guns. Yeah. That's their fault actually. Well, technically we put uh, we put like pins and nerf darts and then we made it so you can shoot Nerf darts too. So <laugh> technically it all worked out. Speaker 1 01:17:11 Hell yeah. That's awesome man. So as far as like new music and stuff like that, what, what is, what has the world got to look forward to for Will Cullen? As far as, oh dude. Content shows just different things that you're gonna be doing for this year. Speaker 2 01:17:23 This year It might be like the most fun ever. Um, shows rounds at least like once or twice a week. Um, making content, bunch of, bunch of stuff. I, um, I think the guys will like this. I'm going to spring break soon. So, uh, I've decided to, um, take my talents to the beach, which is gonna be great. Um, Speaker 1 01:17:45 Where, which spring break? Destination? Speaker 2 01:17:48 Fort Lauderdale. Speaker 1 01:17:49 Okay. That's a, Speaker 2 01:17:50 I'm actually playing two. They're actually opening a tin roof in Fort Lauderdale the weekend I'm there and I'm gonna open it up. So that'll be cool too. Speaker 1 01:17:55 You're gonna crush down there. That shit's cool. Cause we've done the spring break shows. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we did Panama City Beach back to back years. One of the years that we went, it was us. It was Trey Lewis. Yeah. Um, so it was right at the height of Dick down in Dallas Speaker 2 01:18:07 Coming out. Yeah. He does not like me by the way. I was joking with him. I don't, I take that back. I don't know if he doesn't like me, but I would not be surprised if he doesn't like me. Cuz I went up to him, um, at Live Oak when I met him. And I was just doing like, I was kind of just joking with him, but he might have not been in a good mood. And I was just beating myself like, just like, oh, what's up dude? Like you wanna go with Serena girl? Like sometime he's like, who is this? I think he thought I was like some. Speaker 1 01:18:31 Yeah, he probably didn't. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:18:33 But uh, it's funny he said that cuz Yeah, we are playing on the beach and then I plan on going and serenading so many girls there. It's gonna be Speaker 1 01:18:40 Great. Yeah. You're gonna, Speaker 2 01:18:41 For me, I'm gonna end up like, it's gonna be more beneficial for me to go on spring break cuz of the content I'm gonna make there. Speaker 1 01:18:47 Yeah, you're gonna have a, yeah, that spring break content's gonna be insane, but you'll have to look and see like, but the year we were down in Panama City, it was us, Afro Man and Jack Harlow, like just stupid this year. That same event as like Young Gravy and somebody else. Somebody else. Or like, you'll just see there's just so much. But yeah. The content. Speaker 2 01:19:05 Yeah. My problem is I don't have enough music out to do that. Yep. Cause I have two songs out. That's stupid. Speaker 1 01:19:10 But dude, it's actually gonna be better because instead of you only playing for like, oh true. 45 minutes or an hour, you're gonna be able to play in 30 to 45 second increments. Whenever the fuck you want. You're outside the bars, you can play, you're in the, you're on, you're in somebody's fucking trashy motel room. You can do it. True. You're on the, you're on the fucking, you're going up to Girls on the beach, you're going up to groups of people, girls, guys. You're seeing everybody like you by doing that. You don't have one set, you have the tin roof gigs, but you can go and play whenever you Speaker 2 01:19:39 Want. Playing at some. It's better Speaker 1 01:19:40 That way. Speaker 2 01:19:41 Yeah, that'd be sweet. And I mean, honestly like the TikTok too, like some brand deals and stuff too. Like I'll be getting paid to go on vacation, which is the best it's dream. That's like what I do it for. Um, parents are pissed about that. But um, I'm gonna just have fun. Speaker 1 01:19:57 Hey, they'll, they'll, it'll it'll come around like, cuz I've had that too where like Speaker 2 01:20:02 I just told my parents like, I'll just buy you a car and we'll call it even I know I was a little misfit piece of shit most of the life. I know I was a burden, but here's a hot tub, but <laugh>. So that's my plan just to buy my mom my hot tub and my dad a car. Hell yeah. That's cool. And my manager something too. Yeah. That guy like so much. Yeah. Um, but it's great man. 23rd, a lot of new music coming out. Uh, do we Speaker 1 01:20:22 Have a plan for when the next one is Speaker 2 01:20:23 Coming? March 10th. It's called Skinny Boy. It's making fun of Talkers. It's actually gonna be awesome. Okay. One of my favorite songs. And then just, uh, consistency, hopefully once a month after that. Oh yeah, dude. Working with some really, really cool people. Um, talented af Um, so I get to do the fun stuff. I get to make content and write songs, rerecord it. Um, but it's fun. Been, yeah, I've been just in the studios a lot recently too. Writing, getting some cuts soon. Um, so all's just good. I that's what like the, I wanna keep it like 50% writing the actual Nashville thing, the actual singer songwriter, writing your own songs, uh, recording, performing. But then 50% of me is like, I love acting in content creation. Even love screenwriting too. I have like, I want, I want to run, I wanna have my own TV show soon. Just it's, uh, possibility. Endless. Nashville's the place to do it. My god. La I dunno. I got a weird brain dude. And I wanna, Speaker 1 01:21:19 You're 21 years old. I got, I got plans. You have the entire, you have Speaker 2 01:21:23 I got plans, doc. Speaker 1 01:21:24 The world is your motherfucking oyster. You can do whatever the fuck you want. And um, I'm very stoked to have had you on the pod today and, um, oh yeah. Speaker 2 01:21:33 This Speaker 1 01:21:34 Is fun. Thanks for coming on. Plug the, um, the podcast that you're involved with and like your accounts and all that stuff. Oh yeah. Cause you work, you work with some of our good buddies. Um, Mike and Colin. Speaker 2 01:21:43 Mike and Colin. Dude, we'll get that going too. Yeah. Um, the section is pretty awesome. Um, we're gonna get get that back up and running pretty soon. Um, it's always fun. Just do podcasting talking Yeah. Jokes maybe we, we, we, we'll get a drink next time we do it and then it'll just be that much more fun. But, um, yeah, I mean, uh, will Cullen, uh, everywhere new song that came out just miss you. It's sad boy one. Um, but we'll get some happier stuff out sooner than you think. Hell yeah. It's gonna be Speaker 1 01:22:12 Fun. Awesome dude. Well I appreciate you coming on. Thanks so much. This is great. Thank you guys as always for tuning in to the in the Round podcast. Um, check out our boy Will Collin if you're in, if you're a fan of Will's, on, on TikTok, Instagram, all that stuff. You're in college or you're a spring breaker. You heard him, man. He's gonna be down in Fort Lauderdale this year. So if you're out down in Fort Lauderdale spring break, be sure to be on the lookout. Popeye, see him at the Tin Roof down there in Fort Lauderdale, down in Delray Beach baby. Um, and uh, have a good, uh, have a good time down there. Skinny Boy is coming out in March. Yeah, Speaker 2 01:22:44 I haven't really announced that, but you know, it'll be right. Oh, I actually, I will. Speaker 1 01:22:47 It's coming. This episode will be out next week. Speaker 2 01:22:49 Yeah, yeah, it'll be fine by then. Well, Speaker 1 01:22:51 He's got new music coming really soon that he'll be teasing, um, on his channels and um, on his social media accounts. And, uh, be sure to follow him along everywhere. Uh, appreciate you guys as always for checking out the pod. Uh, shout out to our friends at Whale Tale Media. Saxon Studios, our boy Mitch Wallace with the Digital Marketing Agency and of course our friends at Pickle Jar Live for Sweet Boy behind the camera. My name is Matt Burrell. Be sure to check out, um, all of our social media accounts. Be sure to like, rate, subscribe, tell your mama and them and, uh, we will see you next time. This has been the In The Round Podcast.