Austin Snell (Round 2): 'Still Bleeding' album release, Upcoming Jason Aldean Tour and more!

[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt Barrill for Rage Rowdy podcast, Austin Snell, or as it says at the shows on the road, Austin fucking snail, dude. [00:00:27] Speaker B: You know, that voice sounds a lot pretty familiar, bro. I think we need to just kind of go ahead and talk about that, man. [00:00:33] Speaker A: Dude, I thought I was in trouble when Ryan Newmans was like, hey, man, could you. Could you meet me? And, like, we got. We got to talk about something. I was like, oh, shit, what did I do at the house? And he was. Then he had me pop into the little mixing room and he was like, hey, dude, would you mind saying Austin fucking snow at the microphone? We're trying to come up with it. We're putting his help and help him put the show intro together. It's like, dude, I'd be honored. If there's anybody for this job, I. [00:00:55] Speaker B: Can do this out there that's listening, that has heard my live show. This is the guy that is on. [00:01:00] Speaker A: The intro of the show, Austin fucking snail, dude. I love that. It was so cool getting to hear that at Tailgate and Tallboy. [00:01:08] Speaker B: I completely forgot that that was, like, the first time you had seen that. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah, because I haven't been to a show. [00:01:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:13] Speaker A: And you've been rocking with that now for. [00:01:15] Speaker B: I mean, it's been a year. [00:01:16] Speaker A: About a year. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was for the year, so. Which is fucking wild last year, but fucking rocking with that for a minute, dude. So a lot of people have heard your voice. [00:01:25] Speaker A: That's wild. And of all the things to be saying, austin fucking gets me so excited, dog. So still bleeding. We're in release week right now, huh? [00:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah, we're kind of in a new era right now. We're kind of just. We played our last headline tour show in Denver, Colorado. I think we ended up selling like. [00:01:42] Speaker A: 950 tickets out at the grizzly Rose. Yeah, dude, I love that place. [00:01:46] Speaker B: I want to go back there. [00:01:48] Speaker A: That's one of my favorite clubs. [00:01:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So they give you a belt buckle if you sell it out. I don't know if you knew that or not. No, but they give you like, this big ass belt buckle if you sell the place out. So I told him when I left, I was like, I'm coming back here and we're gonna sell it out. We're getting sold, like I said, like 900 tickets. And I think the cap is like 1500. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Was that your first time out there? [00:02:08] Speaker B: We played. We played a radio show out there, but other than that, dude, I had no clue if we had fans in Denver. I try not to ask about, like, ticket sale prices until, like, we're there and, like, people are starting to show up. I'm like, hey, what did we sell? But before, like, leading up, I'll just stress myself out about it, so I just don't ask. But, I mean, I. I was pleasantly surprised with how many people were in Denver, Colorado. Yeah. [00:02:28] Speaker A: And that room's just great. And then they had the wings and the dance floor. Then they had the wings and the shrimp afterwards. [00:02:34] Speaker B: I had some of the wings. I didn't touch the shrimp. [00:02:36] Speaker A: The shrimp was. Dude, that's some of my favorite shrimp. They fly it in every day. Yeah, the shop, they get. [00:02:41] Speaker B: I was a little. I was a little scared of it. [00:02:43] Speaker A: I know, because you're not near the beach, you're all like, why am I gonna eat this fish in Colorado? [00:02:49] Speaker B: Also, like, they put it on ice, and then I went to grab one, and it was, like, kind of lukewarm. And so I was like, you know, I'm gonna wait on this one, and we'll try to get. [00:02:59] Speaker A: I can tell you next time, the shrimp look great. Yeah. Hospitality out there. [00:03:04] Speaker B: So awesome. [00:03:05] Speaker A: And it's a big stage. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah, it was massive, dude. The rooms. Massive. It's easy to look full. [00:03:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Because I had that big dance floor in the middle, and so as long as there's people on that, it's like, oh, this place is sick. [00:03:15] Speaker A: So that was. So that was the last show, man. [00:03:17] Speaker B: That was the last date we added. We did an extended tour this year just because last year went so well, and, yeah, added, like, three or four dates to the headline tour. And then, yeah, we played. That was the last one. So we go out with Aldean next month. [00:03:32] Speaker A: How crazy is that, bro? [00:03:33] Speaker B: I mean, it's the craziest thing ever. I mean, Jason's, like, God in Georgia, you know, he, like, is from 40 minutes from my hometown, and actually ran into him at Tortuga, and I'd heard the rumor that he, like, personally requested us out on tour, but, like, you hear that and other people say it, and you're like, no, you're capping. And so that was, like, one of the third things I asked him when I met. I was like, hey, is it true that you, like, asked us to be out on this tour? And he's like, yeah. I was on the way home to see some family, and I heard pray all the way home on the radio, and I called my manager directly after hearing it, and I was like, hey, they're coming out on the road with us. And I was like, holy shit, that's the coolest thing ever. Also, I found out that we went to the same elementary school. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So, like, he, like, went to my elementary school. I guess he left during elementary school and then moved to Macon, and that's where everybody knows he's from, is Macon. But, like, I did not know that he went to school in, like, Dublin. [00:04:27] Speaker A: That's why. [00:04:27] Speaker B: So that's where I went to school. And so we probably sat in the same classroom at some point. [00:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Dude, it's just. It's been so cool watching you over these past few years. I mean, you've been in the raised Rowdy family, like, since the get go. Like, while you. I think you were still in the service. [00:04:40] Speaker B: I was still in the air force, Sarah, from raise Rowdy. I had zero things going on. I was still in the air force, just writing music and really just on tick tock, just effing around, dude. Didn't really know. [00:04:53] Speaker A: Just shooting shots. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Yeah, really. That's all anybody can do these days, you know? And that's what I was doing. And, like, Sarah found me on there, and she, like, I guess, loved what I was doing. And so they wrote, you know, an article about me. Like, shit, that would have been sick five, five, six years ago. I feel like. Yeah, so, I mean. Yeah, I mean, raise rowdy is, like, the truest form of day one, so. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Well, we're proud to be waving that flag and. Proud to be. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, raise rowdy was, like, the first round that I played. [00:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, over at live oak. Yeah. [00:05:25] Speaker B: And, yeah, dude. I mean, it's just been awesome to have you guys around and. You around and just the whole team. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I first met you through, I believe, Brian Fuller, you were hanging out with. [00:05:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:36] Speaker A: It was Brian. I think it was Brian Fuller telling me there was this new kid coming up from Georgia. His name's Austin. And I was like, yeah, I think I've heard Sarah talk about this guy. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:44] Speaker A: And then does just kind of see how, like, you moved here, what was it? 202-022-2022. And then it just kind of all started moving, man. Like, you found your group of guys. [00:05:57] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I think I found my sound early, and I think that that's something that a lot of guys struggle to do when they move to town. I think that, you know, a lot of people move to town and, like, there's nothing against it at all, but I think a lot of people move to town and they, like, see? Okay, this is what's going on right now. Let me do this. And, like, this is, like, the Morgan Wallen song that's popping off right now. Let me write that because that's obviously what's working. And I didn't ever really want to be that guy. Like, I didn't want to be the guy that was, like, just following the footsteps of somebody else, you know? With that being said, I had no fucking clue what my sound was when I moved here. I just kind of was just writing around and meeting people and just kind of staying, you know, busy as much as possible. And then literally, I mean, we wrote excuse the mess within probably six months of me being in town with Christian and Presley and leaving that room, I was like, this is something, like, super different, dude. [00:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:49] Speaker B: And, like, nobody's doing this. Like, Hardy was doing the rock thing, but he's doing, like, the metal, like, country redneck lyric and stuff like that, which is sick. But, like, I was like, nobody's doing this, bro. And it's so sick. And, like, all the people my age that grew up listening to, like, the, you know, the nickelbacks or, like, the creeds or the three doors down or, like, the nirvana stuff, like, are all, like, my age now. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:10] Speaker B: And so it only makes sense that, like, you know, the butt rock. Like, butt rock stuff is, like, coming back to, you know, make sense. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's singing the songs with meaning. Cause, like, excuse the mess could have or any of any of your songs, like, pray all the way home, like, season as wildfire, all those could be written as, like, contemporary country songs. You just put the rock flair on it, and you. And you're able to inflect that with your voice sonically with the music. But lyrically, they could fit in as country. You just make them Austin Snell songs. [00:07:39] Speaker B: I mean, that's what I tell people, man. I'm literally just writing country songs with rock music behind it. [00:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker B: So. [00:07:46] Speaker A: And it goes over so well in the lives. [00:07:48] Speaker B: And that's why, like, I think I love it so much is just because, like, I play some of the slower. Like, more, like, you know, we have, like, on the album some, you know, more modern sounding country stuff on it, but, like, it just doesn't hit the way I want it to live. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:03] Speaker B: So, like, when you have, like, the excuse the messes or the pray all the way homes or, you know, stuff like that, it's, like, so much easier to stay, like, high energy in a show. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:11] Speaker B: That's what I love about a live show. Like, when the first time I saw nickelback play live. Like, that was like, one of the, like, things that stuck out to me is like, holy shit, dude. These dudes are rocking right now and, like, you can't look away from it, you know? I feel like if I go, you know, and this is not me talking shit on anybody, but if I go to, like, a regular modern country show, I find myself talking to my friends or like this or that. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, there's nothing. [00:08:34] Speaker B: I go to the bar and grab a drink. But, like, dude, if I'm watching, like, hardy play a show, like, I don't want to walk away. It's like, this dude is rocking out right now. [00:08:41] Speaker A: It's a spectacle. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, absolutely is. So that's what I love about it, dude. [00:08:44] Speaker A: It's a. It's a spectacle, for sure, dude. And, yeah, I definitely resonate with that. And live, the live show aspect is something that's very important with us. And getting to see you do these festival stages. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:56] Speaker A: And getting to see you, obviously, there was. There was some weather up in Bloomington, Illinois. You're going to be going back there doing cruisins, which we're excited about. I think we're going to. We're going to try. We're planning a weekend that we're trying to get, like, a party bus up from Nashville to go to cruisins to go to Illinois for a show. I think we might be doing it right. [00:09:14] Speaker B: Welcome there, man. [00:09:15] Speaker A: That'd be so much fun. But I got. Seeing Clinton, Iowa. [00:09:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:19] Speaker A: And you got to go on tailgates, too, right? That was tailgates, too. Yep. That was Iowa. And getting to see just how you and your boys are in such sync up there. And to watch, I mean, it's been cool watching you grow, watching Kenny Whitmire grow, bro. That dude and his coveralls up there. Just fucking ripping, man. [00:09:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm, like, so excited to have him out, dude. And I, like, I remember when, like, we were, like, kind of, you know, sussing through band stuff and, like, Devon, obviously, the drummer has been with me since the beginning. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a fucking. [00:09:49] Speaker B: He's not going anywhere. [00:09:50] Speaker A: He's a fucking rock star. [00:09:51] Speaker B: He is, dude. I mean, he comes from, like, literally, like, playing metal shows. [00:09:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:54] Speaker B: That's what he did. And, like, he just kind of came over. I think a lot of people are doing that right now. They're kind of coming over into the country space. [00:09:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Just because I feel like it's more marketable right now, but, yeah. So he's been with me from the start, and then we've kind of just been sussing through guitar players. Wade Davis, I think he's a. Has he been on this podcast yet? [00:10:10] Speaker A: I had Wade on with him and Lauren Watkins. I love Wade. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Wade is just great, dude. And we had him out last year for a little bit. He was just kind of trying to split time with Lauren and me, and I was just like, you know what? Go do that thing, dude. And, like, it's no hard feelings or whatever. And so we did that, and I brought miles from Lake view over. He used to play for Lake View. Brought him over first. Then we got rid of our bass guitar, and I was like, I want two guitars on stage. Like, that's what I want. Like, it's gonna sound better. We'll run bass in the tracks. I don't care who talks shit about it. Yeah, it just sounds better and looks better. And so I was like, kenny, bro. And at this point, he had, like, he'd done the Warren Ziders tour with me. Like, the acoustic stuff. Like, he had done all the acoustic little shows that we had done up to that point, and I was like, kenny, bro, just come play guitar for me. And he's like, I'm not a guitar player. Like, I'm not that good at guitar. Like, I can't go on stage and play guitar. It's just not me. Yeah, I'm like, just give it a shot, bro. And so, like, we brought him in, like, built our show, and, like, we kind of gave him some, like, easy parts to play. And, like, while we were rehearsing, we realized, like, did this dude can play guitar? [00:11:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:16] Speaker B: And he killed it. And, like, now we just got finished building out our new headline set with all the new songs on it. And, like, we gave him, like, some lead parts, and, like, dude, he's like an animal. [00:11:27] Speaker A: It's just the confidence of getting out there and doing it. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And he has it now. [00:11:31] Speaker A: He's always had it in him. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got it, bro. And, like, he's just also such a good dude to have around, you know? Yeah, he's such a, like, easygoing person. Like, he, like, calms me down. Like, cuz. He's just, like, is super, like, chill and, like, mellow. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:44] Speaker B: And me and him have been out on the road just by ourselves doing radio stuff now, cuz. Pray all the way, homes at radio. Yeah. And radio tour is a whole nother beast in itself. That shit's a grind, bro. But it's obviously a blessing. But, like, it's just a grind. But, yeah, so me and him have been on the road doing that, and he's been coming out to all flying out with me to all these radio visits and picking the. [00:12:07] Speaker A: Picking the guitar, having somebody with you for that, that's, like, especially for my. [00:12:11] Speaker B: First time around, you know, like, because, you know, I. I don't know what the hell's going on, dude, half the time. And so, like, just having somebody else out there that is also their first time, they're just like, hey, we're doing this shit together. [00:12:22] Speaker A: And for it to be, of all people, for it to be Kenny, who's, like, one of the first guys that you got to know in town, dude. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Literally the first person. I mean, I think I remember specifically my first day in town. I moved in, my parents left, they helped me move in, and I was chilling, and, like, it was the first time I was, like, by myself in town. I was like, holy shit. I don't know what the fuck to do, bro. I don't know anybody here. Yeah. And then the next day, Brett Bone messaged me on Instagram and was like, hey, do you want to come over and write a song? Because I just posted on my instagram that I would move to town. He's like, you wanna come over and write a song? And, like, literally my second day there, I walked into the house and it was Christian Yancey, Kenny Whitmire, Sam Johnson, Brett Bone, and I wanna say Hunter Chastain was there, but, like, literally all the boys were there. So, yeah, we met super early. And, yeah, it's a blessing to have people like that so early on. [00:13:14] Speaker A: And something I love about you is, like, the crew that you kinda come from. Like, your. Me and Nikki always say, like, your class, like, the kids that moved here, like, right at the tail end of the pandemic, like, that 2021, 2022. And a huge part of that crew, obviously, was Sam. And Sam is somebody that we all think about every day and somebody that helped you get, like, I remember when lines came out and I got the tattoo, bro. [00:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I got. This is lines with 11% battery. It was his favorite part of the whole song from the demo. I don't even know why I said it. I think it was just, like, to keep track of what my battery percentage was at. Yeah, I, um. And so when I recorded, like, the work tape of it, I, like, said, this is lines at 11% battery. And I sent the demo or work tape to all the dudes that wrote on it, and he was like, bro, if this doesn't stay in the song. I don't want to be on it. And I was like, all right, bro, it'll stay in the song. And then, like, before I put it out, obviously he passed away, and I was like, dude, it's got to stay in the song. So I got it, kept it in song. They got the tattoo, but, yeah, dude, I mean, he's actually. He's got two more cuts, I think, on this record coming out. [00:14:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:22] Speaker B: So any point in time where I can, you know, continue to, you know, show his talent, I'll continue to. [00:14:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Because there was so much. He had so much, dude. Yeah, he had so much. And he was just one of those dudes that, like, the boys show up to around on a Tuesday or on a Sunday, even. Even if he wasn't playing, him just come in and hang in. Like, your. Your whole gang of guys coming in before everybody started touring and stuff. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:45] Speaker A: And he just made every room that he's a light. Better. [00:14:48] Speaker B: He was a light. And, like, he was just. You knew he was in the room for sure. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:53] Speaker B: And, like, he didn't even have to say anything. Like, he was just a big guy. Like, he just knew he was there. Right. [00:14:57] Speaker A: It's just, like, just the smile on his face. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:59] Speaker A: He'd fuck with you on stage, or he'd be ripping his pen on stage and just saying whatever. And it was just. It's just. And it's like you guys are all like. We look at you guys as, like, race rowdy kids, so it's. It's cool. What's it been like working with Bayless? Because I noticed Bayless. Bayless produced this whole record, the whole thing. [00:15:16] Speaker B: He did every song on it. Um. It's been easy, bro. It's been so easy. He's stupid talented. [00:15:24] Speaker A: What was the first song with him? [00:15:25] Speaker B: Was it just pray all the way home? [00:15:27] Speaker A: Was it pray all the way home? [00:15:27] Speaker B: Was pray all the way home? Yeah. I mean, when we got back in and talked about, you know, recording the record, I was like, you know, we were talking about producers stuff, and I was like, well, you know, me and Bayless got a pretty good track record, you know? So let's just keep Bayless in the mix. And a lot of the songs, he was a part of the demos originally, so it was really a lot of just us going back in and just revamping the demos that we already had. But, dude, he just gets it, man. And he, like, he comes from the rock scene as well, and, like, he was in, like, a metal band, too. I think. Yeah. And so it's so easily, you know, translatable from what? He just gets my sound already. I don't have to say much about it. And also, bro, he does this weird thing, dog. And, like, you've met him before. I'm sure you know how he is. [00:16:12] Speaker A: I've had late night red door nights with Bayless. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Yes. So, like, he does this thing where, like, I'll be in the studio with him and, like, we'll be working on something, and I'll say something about whatever guitar part or, like, some kind of vocal whatever that should be somewhere. And I'm like, hey, Bayless, what about. What if we added this, like, right here? And he'll just laugh at me and then turn back around and, like, as if he. Like, he's just not listening to what I'm saying. And then he'll just be typing on his shit, and then within 5 seconds, he'll have it. Like, I won't even have to explain. I'll be like, hey, what if the guitar sounds like this but, like, kind of like this? And he's like, ha. Yeah. And then just turns around and just cooks, dude, and just cooks. And so, like, he just makes it so easy, and he's such, like, a fun guy to work with. And, like, just being in that house alone makes it, you know, a lot less pressure. I don't. I don't think I ever will want to go into, like, a professional studio where, like, there's a vocal booth and, like, the live band is here, and, like, he's in a completely separate room, like, looking through a glass thing. I just love being in his house, just, like, I don't know if you've ever been there or not. [00:17:21] Speaker A: It's a vibe. [00:17:21] Speaker B: It's a vibe. There's, like, just shit everywhere and, like, it's a mess in there. And, like, I just love it because there's no pressure. [00:17:27] Speaker A: And all the other rock guys that have come through there, like, you can tell that there's been, over the years, cool shit created there, and that guy's got stories for days. Like, stories on stories on stories. And then you'll be hanging out there, and all of a sudden, some guy from some random metal band that you're like, oh, shit, this is the guy from this song that'll just pop in. Guys from LA or guys from Canada or wherever, we'll just pop in and hang out with Bayless. He's the connector, bro. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, this album was so fun to work on, dude. And, yeah, like, you were saying, like, I mean, we'll just be in there in like, whitworth. Michael Whitworth will just drop by and like, just be there. [00:18:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:05] Speaker B: I don't know if you know him or not. Oh, yeah, another character. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Yep. [00:18:07] Speaker B: And you just never know who you're just gonna walk in and see in there. And I think it's super sick, dude. It's like super, like low pressure. Like I don't want to be. I don't know if I don't want to feel like there's a weight on my shoulders to be fun. Yeah, and that's what it's supposed to be. I just feel like if I went into like an actual studio and feel like work and like, when I go in there, it just doesn't. Cuz there's just guitars laying on the couch and like, you know, a drum kick head just like laying in the center of the frickin living room. [00:18:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:33] Speaker B: And yeah, there's no pressure at all. We're just in there and like, even if we don't finish that day, it's like no big deal because like we can just come back over tomorrow and finish it. It's like you don't have to book, you know, the studio to rent it out, you know, it's just where he lives. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Shoot Bayless a text. Hey, I'm coming over. Okay, cool, dude. See you in a bit. [00:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah, man. So it's cool, man. It was super fun, for sure. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Yeah, he gets it. And I. The muddy water rockstar thing, where did that all kind of come from? Because that's been like a part of your. Of your brand. You had a cool whiskey jam experience with Brantley coming out. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:06] Speaker A: And singing that with you, which you told me that story a little bit. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he was supposed to be. I mean, I don't even know if I'm supposed to say this or not, but he was supposed to be on that song. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:19:16] Speaker B: We were supposed to put out a remix of that and he was going to be on the second verse and shit happened. Couldn't happen. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:24] Speaker B: So we pulled the trigger on it. Or didn't pull the trigger on it and just shot it down. But so it's kind of like, it was cool anyway to have him out on stage. It was also cool because, like, all the, like, label people were there and like, it was like a kind of a. Fuck you. [00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah, like, we're like, you know, he's. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Coming out anyway, dude, we're gonna sing this song. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Have you gotten to know him pretty well? [00:19:43] Speaker B: Dude, he's sick, bro. [00:19:44] Speaker A: He's another rock in Georgia guy. [00:19:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he's so sick, bro. He's such a good dude and, like, cares about new artists and, like, cares about, you know, giving me info. And, like, he's kind of taken me under his wing a little bit and kind of just guided me a little bit. And any question that I've ever had, as, you know, if I'm doing this right or should I be doing it this way or should I say this to somebody or whatever, he's kind of just been there in my ear about that. And it's always cool to have somebody that is also an artiste that can help you out. It's obviously cool to have, you know, label and, you know, management and stuff like that to, like, kind of steer you in the right direction, but it's like, I mean, you can't beat having another artist that has been there and done it and, like, has been through. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Everything and has kind of bended it, too. Like, I grew up a huge Brantley fan, dude. So, like, from his different chapters of, like, when he was starting out to going back to the modern day prodigal son stuff, to the halfway to heaven stuff, to then he was just. He just started rocking and putting out shit. Like, read me my rights. Take it outside. [00:20:46] Speaker B: Well, bro, his live show, so much pyro. [00:20:49] Speaker A: So much pyro, dude. It's absurd. [00:20:51] Speaker B: I didn't expect that at all. Like, I was obviously, like, I knew his songs and stuff, and, like, I was a fan, but I didn't really get Brantley until the first time I saw him live. [00:21:01] Speaker A: And this band is, dude, his guitar. [00:21:03] Speaker B: Player has dreads down to his. [00:21:05] Speaker A: And, you know, he came up in, like, the worship, like, metal world. Yeah, he's a worship. [00:21:09] Speaker B: He's the coolest guy ever. [00:21:11] Speaker A: Christian tatted up with the dreads, just bringing it out there. [00:21:14] Speaker B: And, yeah, his drummers sick. Like, his whole band is sick. And he's playing, like, a rock show, bro. And it's like, that's, like, the tightest band I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, they play a great show, but, um, anyway, yeah, just in general, to have, you know, an artist around that can answer questions or just be there, whatever is cool as shit. Also, that night at whiskey jam that morning, I was on instagram, and I saw Dylan Marlowe post about young gravy coming out. You know, he didn't say young gravy, but he's like, I have a special guest coming out. And I was like, oh, God, and I figured, code bring somebody out. And so, like, I was like, who am I gonna bring out for my show? Cause I can't be the only one on this list. [00:21:51] Speaker A: And why it ended up bringing out Gavin degraw. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank God that I made that decision. Cause I would have been the only one on that list that didn't bring somebody out. [00:21:57] Speaker A: I still think it would have been. [00:21:58] Speaker B: It would have been cool. It would have been. [00:22:00] Speaker A: But having that moment on a big. On a big stage like that. [00:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:04] Speaker A: In town. That's a nice. That's a nice. [00:22:06] Speaker B: Hey, I texted him. I texted Brantley as soon as I saw that story that Dylan posted. And I was like, hey, Mandev, this is probably 11:00 in the morning. I was like, hey, I don't even know if you're in town, but if you are, like, I'd love for you to swing by and sing muddy water rockstar with me at the whiskey jam tonight. And I told him, like, co was headlining, so it'd be sick to have you out. Didn't hear back from him. I think we went on stage at seven that night. He text me back at 645, and he's like, didn't even say if he was coming or not. He's like, y'all running wedges? I was like, no, we're running ears. He's like, well, damn, my ears are in Georgia. I was like, dude, I can get you a set of ears. Like, don't worry about that. And so he calls me and he's like, hey, man. He's like, hey, I'm down the street. I'm trying to get this thing figured out, dude, I'll see if I can make it out there. I mean, this is 15 minutes before we go on stage. I'm like, all right, well, if you're coming, dude, you probably need to leave now. He's like, all right, I'll let you know. I'm like, okay, cool. And then I tell my manager, I was like, hey, in case he comes, dude, get a set of ears. Get an extra mic. I don't know what's about to happen. Five minutes before we go on stage, not there. Haven't heard from him. And I'm like, listen, if he shows up, just make sure he's staying side stage so I know, like, I can see him on the stage, so I can bring him out. Yeah, he's like, all right, all right, cool. And I'm walking on, like, I'm walking on stage for our show start, and we play muddy water rockstar. Second in our set. [00:23:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it's early. Yeah. [00:23:29] Speaker B: So it's literally the second song we play. I'm walking out on stage for the show, and I turn around, and Brantley's just now getting here as I'm walking out, and I'm like, holy shit, dude. Dude. So, like, shows up, like, literally a minute before I walk on stage and comes on and plays it, plays the song and went super sick, and I don't know. He's a super great guy, and it was awesome to have that experience, for sure, but rant like you were, dude. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Is it wild? [00:23:55] Speaker B: What a real thing, dude. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, what a real Nashville thing. You don't know if it's gonna happen. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's so, like, nonchalant, dude. I don't know if you just, like, met him, but, like, he's so nonchalant. [00:24:05] Speaker A: California sober. He's somebody I've looked up to in my sobriety for a long, and I. [00:24:10] Speaker B: Heard it was, like, pretty bad at one. [00:24:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, dude, he was wild. He was wild, man. He came up in that Milledgeville Athens scene where shit was crazy back in the day, the Corey Smith era. Like, yeah, it was wild, you know? [00:24:21] Speaker B: So I just know that, like, if I was in that same situation, like, I probably wouldn't even remember the words of the song, first off. Yeah, I would have been like, dude, I don't know the words. Like, whatever. I don't know if I can make it. Like, I'm over here doing this right now and probably not. And he's just like, yeah, man, cool. Shows up, dude hangs out for, like, five minutes after the show and then goes to watch somebody at the Opry that night, but he's just so nonchalant, dude. Sick. And that's kind of, like, what I want to be when I'm, you know, like that. It's just, you know, don't care about nothing. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you're somebody that kids moving to town right now are looking up to, especially if they're leading into the rock vein. Like, you're showing that you can have a song like pray all the way home at commercial country radio, but that hasn't been done. Like, and especially, you would not even be here, like, a full two years yet. But the work that you've put in and the tours you've gotten to go out and open on the writers rounds that you've played the days, hanging out with your buddies, writing songs and building that crew, dude, it's got to be kind of crazy to. Yeah, I'm sure you don't, because you're in the moment, and you don't want to look at it that way. But as some, like, doesn't outs. Like, kids are looking up, like, being like, I want to be like Austin Snow. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's wild, dude. [00:25:37] Speaker A: You're having an impact. [00:25:38] Speaker B: I saw. I saw somebody's TikTok the other day, and, like, they were putting out a song or something and, like, you know, like, people doing the carousels on tick tock now, where you swipe to the different pictures. He's like, if you like Austin Snow and had a picture of me on there, and if you like so and so, then you'll love this song. I'm like, dude, like, people are like, literally, like, comparing me to their music that they're making, and, like, it's just. I don't know. It's a weird feeling. I don't really get to think about it a whole lot. Like you were saying. Yeah, just because, like. And I think it's a healthy way to think, but I also think that it is slightly unhealthy sometimes. It's like, I'm always kind of just, what's next? Like, what are we doing now? How can we top this? Like, how is this going to keep moving this way and not do that and, uh. [00:26:21] Speaker A: Or do this? This is very frustrating. Just staying level. Cause it could be going good, but you want it to keep. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah, keep climbing. I mean. Yeah, I mean, it's a slow climb, and, like, that's what I'm on right now is, like, you know, it went like this for a minute, and now it kind of leveled off, and now we're kind of just on a steady incline, and I stress myself out so much about just kind of, like, looking into stats, and, like, even the other day to me and Kenny were talking on the bus and. Or the van, and I was gonna say, bus? No bus, dude. [00:26:52] Speaker A: What kind of van, though? [00:26:53] Speaker B: It's a sprinter. It's like a mercedes. We have. We have seven bunks on it, so, like, it's. [00:26:57] Speaker A: It's a good. [00:26:58] Speaker B: That's a. Yeah, it's legit. [00:26:59] Speaker A: That's better than your average van and trailer toy. [00:27:01] Speaker B: We're not in a transit. Yeah, I don't think we could be. I would literally strangle everybody in my band if we were in a transit still. But, yeah, we're in a van. But anyway, me and Kenny were talking, and I was kind of just telling him about, you know, me watching my numbers and stuff, and he was like, you gotta understand, dude. Like, two years ago, you didn't have any monthly listeners on Spotify. And if you would, like, show, like you, like, the day before you moved to town, like, these monthly listeners, you'd be freaking out. I'm like, yeah, you're right, dude. You're right. And I constantly have to just gut check myself in that sense, just because I don't think about it, dude. I don't ever think about it. I think about what's next or, like, what's next on the album. What are we doing next? What's after the album? I mean, I've already heard the songs that are coming out on the album a hundred times each. And so now the album comes out this week, and, like, yeah, it's sick as hell, you know, it's cool as shit, and it's gonna be crazy. And, like, I'm excited to do the tour, but also, at the same time, I'm like, okay, what now? Like, I'm already on, like, the what are we releasing next year? Kind of thing, you know? And it's such a weird thing. Cause you don't think that's the way that it works in music, but it. [00:28:09] Speaker A: Is not until you're there. [00:28:10] Speaker B: And I don't know, it's obviously, like, I'm extremely blessed, and I love it to death, but sometimes I wish I could go back and be, like, knowing what I know now and go back to when I first moved to town and be like, you're gonna put out an album and, like, it's gonna be sick. [00:28:27] Speaker A: You're gonna go on tour with Jesus. [00:28:28] Speaker B: You're gonna go on tour with Aldean. [00:28:30] Speaker A: You're gonna have Brittany Gilbert hop up. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And you're gonna drive out to Denver, Colorado, where you've never been before. I don't know anybody in Denver, Colorado, and sell 950 tickets. [00:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Which is sick. [00:28:42] Speaker A: And they're gonna know the words to your song, right, dude? Yeah. [00:28:45] Speaker B: And it's like, I have to, like, constantly check myself and, like, remind myself of that and, like, kind of just compare myself to before. [00:28:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:52] Speaker B: As long as I feel like you're comparing yourself to what you were before that, then it helps a little bit. [00:28:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you've also got. You've got a very special lady in your life. I do talk about having. Having that rock, like, going through this without having that. Without having somebody by your side, without having your ride or die. And Allie's so awesome, dude. [00:29:11] Speaker B: She's great, man. [00:29:12] Speaker A: You really. You really lucked out, man. So did she. You know, it's a good. [00:29:16] Speaker B: She's doing all right, you know, can't skip past that. But, I mean, yeah, it's super important. And I know where I could be if I didn't have that rock in my life, you know, right now. I could be on the road just belligerent. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:30] Speaker B: And I feel like, you know, that is kind of what keeps me from living that life. And I don't want to live that life at all. I've done that before, and I know where that leads. Like, I know that leads to nowhere. Like, in a happy place. And, like, I want to be happy, and I want to be healthy and. Yeah, it helps a lot having her and her specifically. I mean, she's styling me. She. I mean, she's literally my, like, stylist. [00:29:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:54] Speaker B: And she just is so supportive. And she's great. [00:29:58] Speaker A: And you've got the pup. [00:29:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And she sang on the album. [00:30:01] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:30:02] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a song called wasting Mine, and she sang the harmony in the bridge section. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Oh, dude, that's so cool. [00:30:09] Speaker B: She just. It wasn't planned or anything. She was just in the studio at Bayless's, and we were recording the song, and I was making fun of her. Like, we were trying to get her in the studio just to, like, fuck around. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:21] Speaker B: And I was like, why don't you just sing, like, the ooze? Like, there's, like, a ooh. Section in there. And I was like, just sing it. Bayless can make it sound good, you know? And so she sang it, and then Bayless just kind of tuned it up a little bit and I helped her out. [00:30:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:33] Speaker B: And so, yeah, she's on a song with me, technically, without credit. Yeah, I was like, listen, I was like, I know this is morbid, but, like, if we ever break up, like, do not ever come for me for your credit on this song, because you're not getting it. [00:30:46] Speaker A: That's awesome. And then how's the pup doing? [00:30:49] Speaker B: He's in Georgia, dude. He's. He's living my parents right now. He's a menace to society because I. [00:30:55] Speaker A: Remember him at that. At the house. He came over one day where I think ali brought him over. You guys, I think, had just gotten him. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:01] Speaker A: He was running all over that second floor. Ryan. Ryan. [00:31:04] Speaker B: He's a mess, dude. We live in an apartment downtown, and it's highly difficult to have a dog in an apartment because we live on the 9th floor. And so, you know, he shits on the living room floor. And it's like, you can't, like, discipline him cause, like, by the time you spank him, take him outside, walk down the hallway, down the elevator, walk down another hallway, and then out into the grass, it's like, why are we here? [00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker B: And so it's so hard to house train a dog in an apartment. So we took him down to Georgia and left with my parents for a little bit. And we're looking into getting, like, a house here soon, and when we get that, we'll go grab him, give him. [00:31:44] Speaker A: The yard to run around. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Yeah, that'll be good. [00:31:47] Speaker A: What kind of shit does he get into? Like, you say he's a menace to society. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Yeah, he's chewing shit up now. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:31:53] Speaker B: And, dude, he's an english bulldog, bro. And he's got way too much energy for english bull. [00:31:56] Speaker A: Yeah, those are supposed to be. Chill, dude. [00:31:59] Speaker B: First off, we probably shouldn't have even bought a dog because we have a full grown golden retriever. That's right. Yeah. And she's, like, 150 pounds. And so we didn't need another dog, but I wanted one, and we started looking around, and I wanted a frenchie. Oh, I wanted a french bulldog. And we were looking for, like, a few days, and then Allie found Ollie, and she's like, why don't we just get this english bulldog? He'll be lazy. Like, he won't do nothing. Like, he'll just lay around, bro, and, like, it'll be so easy. I was like, okay, we'll go get him. And we got him. And he's, like, the opposite of that. He's, like, the worst, bro. He's the worst. And he, like, never runs out of energy, does not sleep. Like, is just running full throttle. Twenty four seven. And so, yeah, we had to take him down for a vacation for. [00:32:48] Speaker A: So he's enjoying his little. [00:32:50] Speaker B: He's living life, dude. He's living life. He's got a full backyard, you know, a brother dog. [00:32:55] Speaker A: Oh, so he's having a ball down there. [00:32:56] Speaker B: He's chilling. He's with the grandparents, dude, the grandparents always funny. [00:33:00] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, they spoil him. [00:33:02] Speaker B: They feed him donuts and shit. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Dude, isn't it crazy? What? Like, our parents feed the dogs. Like, my, my mom and stepdad have a, have a dog. Like, they had my childhood dog, and then when she passed, they got another one, bailey. And Bailey's a bit of a menace. She's crazy. Like a little, like, poodle y kind of mix. Yeah, but whenever my grandparents get her, they spoil. My grandparents are like, dogs licking out the ice cream bowl after dinner. Kind of, like, spoiling shit. You know, so he's Ollie's. Ollie's doing well. It's Ollie's world. We're just in it down there. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's living life, man. [00:33:35] Speaker A: That's awesome. You got that. Break that on your head. You follow. You follow sports pretty closely. [00:33:39] Speaker B: I don't fall well, I don't follow baseball. I played baseball up until high school, and up until then, I kind of followed it, but now I just wear the hats. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:47] Speaker B: So I couldn't name every player on the Braves team. [00:33:49] Speaker A: Could you name any? [00:33:51] Speaker B: No, probably not. Dude, Freeman's not on there anymore. He's with the Dodgers, right? Yeah, he's with La Swanson. Is he still there? [00:33:58] Speaker A: No, he's in Chicago. [00:33:58] Speaker B: No, I can't. [00:34:00] Speaker A: I can't without football. Are you like a big go dogs guy, like with your Georgia Bulldogs or, you know. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Well, I don't get time anymore, dude. [00:34:07] Speaker A: Isn't it crazy, like, especially with this life, because it's like, we're working on the weekends, so we don't get to watch yet. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. I watched maybe one game last year, and I used to love it. Like, I used to watch it every weekend, you know, go party at Statesboro and watch on game. [00:34:22] Speaker A: Statesboro? [00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Oh, Statesboro, bro. Were you a blue room guy? [00:34:28] Speaker B: I've been there a few times. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Or were you more like dingus McGee's and southern social? [00:34:32] Speaker B: Yeah. What's the. What's the pool? I guess like a. Like a big pool. Like, it's like it gets lit. It's like an apartment. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Like that. I haven't been. I haven't been to the. I went to the dance house once upon a time. That was okay. That was a time. But aside from that, I haven't really been, like, on campus. [00:34:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's dangerous. [00:34:51] Speaker A: States. Burrows wild man. Have you done. Have you played at the blue room? [00:34:54] Speaker B: Yep, we did that. On the end is the second show on the MWR tour. Last year. It was lit. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Those kids are just nuts. [00:35:02] Speaker B: Yeah, man. It's crazy out there, dude. [00:35:04] Speaker A: College kids are just crazy, bro. [00:35:06] Speaker B: I'm glad I missed it. I'm glad I missed out on the college that you went to the military. Went to the military, which I ended up doing the same shit. Yeah, pretty much. Like, I was still probably drinking way more in the military than I would have if I went to college. [00:35:19] Speaker A: That was San Diego, right? [00:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it was, like, pretty much Sacramento. San Francisco. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Sacramento. Okay. So northern Cali. [00:35:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, I probably end up drinking more there than I would have in college, but I'm glad I missed out on the college life, though. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you get it by being here too. Like, I was actually just having this conversation. My girlfriend Aaron, last night, I was like, yeah, my jobs. Like, I move. I worked in radio for a little bit. Like, being a part timer, driving a van around, popping up in the tent, being like, hey, spin our prize wheel. Like that kind of shit. And then I moved down here and was, like, a bouncer at 23. And then my. It was like, extended college. Like 24. Like, moving down here and working. [00:35:57] Speaker B: Did you know Nikki T. Before you moved here? [00:35:59] Speaker A: No. Or a little bit I knew of raised rowdy. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:03] Speaker A: He was. He was. [00:36:04] Speaker B: You move. When did you move to town? [00:36:05] Speaker A: I moved October 2018. Nick moved here September, October of 2020. So I got here about two years before he did. But we had known each other. We've been friends on, like, the Internet. Like, I've been following rage rowdy, and they'd always. If I saw an artist on the new. On the new country playlist of the new. The raise rally, new country place, I'm like, oh, shit, I got to check this out. Like, raise Rowdy showed me who Ryan Nelson was, showed me who Meg Patrick was, who Musk and I'm bloodline were who Lainey Wilson, Riley Green, Luke Combs. Like, I found out about all that stuff in, like, 2017, 2018, through Nick and Sarah and Derek and that whole crew. [00:36:40] Speaker B: They were on it, dude. [00:36:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And we try to still be on it to this day. It's tough when you're in town, though, because you make friends with. You hear all this buzz of, like, who's buzzing in town. There's a lot of guys and girls. You could be as big as you want in midtown. But if people don't know who you are outside and you can't go to Denver, Colorado, and at least sell some tickets, it's like, yeah, there's. There's something to be said for being outside of town and discovering the artist versus being in town and having it kind of fed to you. [00:37:07] Speaker B: I can see that. [00:37:08] Speaker A: You know, like, it's. It's cool we. To think that we're. I get to go to all these, what some would consider, like, concerts, and it's like, we're hosting them and we're doing ten to twelve events a month, and we're getting ready to do those losers outdoor shows, which are gonna be fucking wild. Raise rowdy in the parking lot. But I miss the days of, like, oh, shit, this. This guy Morgan Wallin's coming through and playing this small club in Asbury Park, New Jersey. I want to go and see. And I used to think his name was Morgan Whalen. I didn't know how to pronounce it. You know, like 2016, you know, like, I miss. I miss those days, being a fan. [00:37:42] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you see what's coming out of Nashville, like, when you're not there, but, like, when you're in Nashville, you're so intertwined with everything that's, like, going on every day. It's like, yeah, you don't see what's coming out of Nashville. You see what's coming into it. [00:37:53] Speaker A: Yeah. You see what's coming in and you're like, oh, this label is really putting a lot behind this guy or this or that. [00:37:58] Speaker B: It's crazy how fast people switch up, dude. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, it really. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Which is awesome for the artist, you know? [00:38:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:06] Speaker B: But, like. And, dude, I love Tucker Wetmore to death. He's such a great dude. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah. He's all, I haven't met him yet. He's gonna be at the tailgate and tall boys in Michigan. We're gonna be. I'm gonna be emceeing those, and we're gonna be hanging out at those. I've heard nothing bad about the kid. [00:38:19] Speaker B: Such a nice guy. I met him, like, pretty soon after I moved to town and we wrote together a couple times. [00:38:24] Speaker A: He's a west coast guy, I think he's a Washington dude. Like, he's from, like, yeah, he's up west. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah, super nice guy. But it's like, bro, shit happens so fast. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker B: And, like, you see, like, who the labels are excited about, and then something like that happens and how fast they're like, whoa, nevermind, dude. Yeah, this guy's, like, killing it. Hold on a second. Whatever you have going on. Hold on. Yeah, this guy. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Quickly. The machine can switch around, dude. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And it's like a never ending thing. [00:38:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's what's been good about the team that you're with. Yeah, I think, like, zeb and those. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Guys, they got it going on. [00:39:03] Speaker A: They got it going on. And they've been on you since you got up here. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Honestly, I knew Zeb before I moved to town, and it was crazy because I, like, I remember when I first started writing songs, I was a big fan of Ray Fulcher, and I'd found out that he had written a lot of the first Luke Combs record. [00:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:22] Speaker B: And so I studied this guy. Like, I, like, watched all his interviews and was just, like, infatuated with, like, you know, how he was, like, describing how he would go about writing a song and, like, I would just study him. And I started writing songs or whatever. And then he posted, I think he did a new album or something, and I covered one of the songs off the album and posted it on Instagram, and he reposted it onto his Instagram story. And at the time, dude, I was in California. I don't know anything about the industry. I had no connection to the industry at all. I didn't know what I was doing. And so to me, I was like, bro, I just made it. I'm there, bro. [00:39:59] Speaker A: People know who I am now. I know this. [00:40:02] Speaker B: So, yeah, he reposted it. And then I think that him and Zeb were at a wedding, and Ray showed Zeb a video of me covering his song. And then Zeb kind of just took me under his wing and kind of just stayed in contact. He's probably the reason why I moved to Nashville, to be honest with you. He was always in my ear. He's like, when are you getting here? And at the time, I was like, dude, I got two years left in the military. I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. And so, yeah, he kind of just stayed in my ear about it, and I would kind of send him songs every now and then. I'd write this, and I'd be like, hey, do you like this? And he'd be like, yeah, it sucks. And I'd be like, okay, I think it's pretty cool. And I just kind of keep doing that. And then I moved back to Georgia in 2020 and kind of just worked a construction job and was doing the same thing, just writing songs. And I was off, and he's like, okay, you need to get up here. Like, you're wasting time. Like, you're making excuses. And I was like, I don't have the money yet. And, like, I'm working this job. Like, I don't have the time. Like, I'm just trying to figure everything out. And he's like, stop making excuses. Like, move to Nashville and figure it out from there. And I was like, okay, cool. And so I signed a lease with two random guys. I don't think we talked about this. Last time I was on the podcast, I got money roommate app. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Oh, like, so you really did? This is. Nashville was like your college because that's how it works when you're in college. You go on, like, a portal or, like, an app, and then that's how you find your college roommates. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it was literally like. It was like Tinder for roommates of. [00:41:23] Speaker A: People moving to Nashville. [00:41:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And so I was on this app, and I was swiped, literally swiping left or right, bro, for roommates in Nashville. I was like, this guy. No, this guy's wearing Sperry's. No. You know, and then swiping right or whatever. And landed with two guys and signed a lease with these two random dudes. Had no clue who they were. Like, I don't think I ever even spoke on the phone with them. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Wow. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Before signing the lease. So I signed a lease with these two guys, and then a week, I think probably to the day after I signed a lease with these two random guys. This is probably in December of 2021. Signed a lease in December, January. No, a week after I signed the lease with these guys, they found a tumor in my back that I thought was a slipped disc from being in the gym. I used to be in the gym. Pretty heavy. [00:42:21] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [00:42:22] Speaker B: And so I went to the doctor. I was like, hey, I probably slipped a disc. Like, what's wrong? Did an MRI. It was a tumor, like, the size of a golf ball in my back, like, in my spinal cord. And they're like, yeah, we don't know if it's cancerous or not. We probably need to go in there and remove it, though. I was like, okay, well, I just signed a lease in Nashville. I can't move to Nashville. He's like, probably not for a little while. No. And so, like, me not knowing these guys, I was like, expecting to call them and be like, hey, I can't. I move on time. Like, I can't. Also can't pay rent on time because I'm gonna use my savings account that I've been saving for to live for the next, you know, however many months. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:02] Speaker B: Fully expecting them to be like, fuck off, dude. Like, we don't know who you are. Figure it out. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:06] Speaker B: They were like, no, we'll cover your rent until you get here. And if that's not, you know, a God thing, I don't know. [00:43:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:15] Speaker B: If I've ever seen anything from God. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Were they guys in music or. [00:43:19] Speaker B: No. One guy was a sales rep for a beer company, and one guy was John Wayne Hatfield. I don't know if you know. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Oh, no shit. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And, wow. Random guys are like, hey, we'll cover your rent until you can figure it out. And so I was like, holy shit. That's cool. Had the surgery in February, moved in May, and after May, everything's kind of just, you know, took off. [00:43:44] Speaker A: That is a God thing. [00:43:45] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. Absolutely is. I don't know. The original question was, but no, but that's why. Yeah. [00:43:52] Speaker A: And that ties in with, like, me and God are a little tighter than you might think. [00:43:57] Speaker B: Yeah, we wrote that song, real stuff. We wrote that song, like, 45 minutes, I think. And I was. I think it's because it was so relatable and it was just like, blah. You know, this is what I'm feeling, and it's out now. [00:44:09] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Crazy stuff. [00:44:11] Speaker A: That's crazy. So I'm gonna pull up your, like, tour. Your tour schedule right here. What the. What the events look like, because you're. You're busy. How many dates do you think you've done so far this year? You guys have been out there. [00:44:23] Speaker B: I think they said beginning of the year. By the end of the year, we'll be in the hundreds. [00:44:28] Speaker A: That's great. 100 dates a year. I've done that before. That's a lot. [00:44:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good bit. [00:44:32] Speaker A: That's a lot. [00:44:33] Speaker B: When you add in radio tour on top of that. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, the radio tour thing. When did you start doing that? [00:44:38] Speaker B: We've been doing it for. Let's see. What month is it now? It's June, I think. Around February, March. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Wow. [00:44:49] Speaker B: So we've been doing it for a little while, and I've been kind of taking weeks off every now and then, but for the most part, we'll go play a show or a weekend with the band. Thursday, Friday, Saturday. [00:45:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:03] Speaker B: And then we'll have Sunday for a travel day, get back sometimes super late on Sunday. And me and Kenny will fly out on Monday to a radio visit and wherever. Yeah, St. Louis, whatever. Do that. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And then we'll fly and meet the band on Thursday, wherever they're driving to for the show. [00:45:28] Speaker A: Jeez. [00:45:29] Speaker B: So it's a lot, bro. Yeah, it's a lot. But I mean, like I said, you know, I got to constantly check myself on, like, what is the alternative? [00:45:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:39] Speaker B: You know, me fucking crammed into a corner trying to stick weld a rusty ass pipe in Georgia. You know? Like, that's the alternative for me. [00:45:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:48] Speaker B: So could be worse, for sure. [00:45:50] Speaker A: So I'm looking at some of these dates you have coming up with Aldean. You start out in my neck of the woods. You start out in northeast. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:58] Speaker A: So you're going to some of my. Some of the first places that I went to concerts. Like, growing up as a kid, like, you're playing in home Dell, New Jersey, which is PnC bank arts center. Yeah, it's a fun. [00:46:11] Speaker B: Is that an amphitheater? [00:46:12] Speaker A: It's an amphitheater. Holds about 20 plus thousand. I want to say about 20 to 25. It's a big one. The ones up there are very big. And it's like right off the interstate. So that place. I actually joke around that I'd my thousand dollar beer there. I got an underage drinking ticket at a Toby keef concert there in 2000. What would it have been, 2016 or 20? No, it would have been early. Cause I would have been underage. So it would have been like 2015. 2015 or 2014. And I drank a thousand. Got charged a $1000 beer for underage drinking. Because it's like the interstate or the Garden State Parkway. Like the main highway is like right here. And the venues, like right off it. So it's like a pit stop. Like you get directly. So they. They're very heavy there, but yeah, venue's awesome. And then Camden, New Jersey, that's like the Philly crowd. That's like WXT, the big station there. Like you're gonna get to see a lot of like these radio friends that you've gotten to make and whatever at the Saldeen tour. And that's super productive for you. [00:47:11] Speaker B: And that's kind of what we've been pushing at these, you know, visits and stuff. It's like, hey, come see us. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Come see us. Oh, and then Guilford, New Hampshire. Bro, I bet you Sarah's gonna be at that one. [00:47:20] Speaker B: She better be. [00:47:21] Speaker A: I was gonna say, I think the. [00:47:22] Speaker B: Last time I saw Sarah Washington at a raised rowdy round, like, like a. [00:47:26] Speaker A: Year or two ago. [00:47:27] Speaker B: Last year. Yeah, like midway last. Last year. I think. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Yo, you're back to back nights in New Hampshire. That's a Saturday. Sunday. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we're playing 30, 34, 35 shows with them. [00:47:37] Speaker A: That's wild. Dude. Could be worse, those. Yeah, dude, it definitely could be. And you're going all over the place. You're going out far west as Utah and Idaho and Oregon to the northeast. Here in the south, you're literally everywhere. And then you start the. Your headlining stuff too. Joe's on weed. Have you done Joe's on weed yet? [00:47:55] Speaker B: No. So we played. We played Carol's pub last year. [00:47:58] Speaker A: Okay, so now you get to go to the bigger room. [00:48:00] Speaker B: We sold out Carol's pub. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:01] Speaker B: And bro, it was like a. It was sick, don't get me wrong, to sell it out, but like, we were playing the show and there's like a burger line, like next to us. Yeah, like, they're making. They're flipping patties, like, literally, like 5ft space. [00:48:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:16] Speaker B: So, yeah, I'm excited to get back in the. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Joe's on Weed street is a fun club. And then they're gonna hook it up with that deep dish pizza after, bro. So fucking good, dude. I love. It's funny. It's on. It's literally on Weed street. There's like a dispensary, like, right next to it. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I've never been in there. We. So, like I said, we played Carol's pub and then we went out with Pecos and the rooftops. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Oh, I forgot. You did the Pecos? [00:48:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we played Joe's live with them. Okay, so I haven't been on Joe's on lead. [00:48:39] Speaker A: How many people have you gotten to go out and open for on, like, tours? Like, it's been a lot, I guess. [00:48:45] Speaker B: It's been a lot. Yeah. I mean, we. So we started out with Warren Zotters. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Who we just saw tailgating tallboys and puts on an incredible show. He gets that crowd in the Palmer's fucking. Yeah. He takes off his shirt and you're like, fuck you, dude. [00:49:00] Speaker B: I takes off a shirt. Baby oil and everything, dude. And just, you know is what it is, brother. I won't do it. [00:49:07] Speaker A: No, dude. [00:49:09] Speaker B: You either got to be like. You either got to be ripped or you got to be fat. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:14] Speaker B: To do it. You know? You can't be the in between guy. [00:49:16] Speaker A: Yeah. In between guys. It's tough. That's where I'm at right now. [00:49:19] Speaker B: Then you just look like an idiot. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So, like, what's this guy doing? So Warren Zyder's then? Where'd you go from? [00:49:25] Speaker B: Did Warren Ziders? I mean, we opened for a shit ton of people as far as tours go. We did Willie Nelson. [00:49:32] Speaker A: That's gotta be cool. [00:49:33] Speaker B: I got the tattoo. I got the. Got the guitar. [00:49:36] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. [00:49:37] Speaker B: We had that. See, now I'm gonna forget everything. Dude. We did a show with Keith Urban. We did. [00:49:44] Speaker A: Then you do chase. You did chase stuff. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Did Chase Matthew this year? [00:49:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:49] Speaker B: That was sick, dude. I mean, I think we have a lot of the same fan base. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Yeah, great guy. [00:49:54] Speaker B: Super good guy. [00:49:56] Speaker A: Cool. [00:49:56] Speaker B: Dude. They're the shit. [00:49:58] Speaker A: Fun. [00:49:58] Speaker B: They're the shit, man. They're awesome to be around. Actually, bro, we were heading back from Nebraska yesterday and we pulled off on some random, like, I don't even know where we were at. I don't even think the town had a name. Pilot. And we saw Chase store bus in the fucking. In the parking lot of this pilot. And we walk in and his vans in there. I'm like, dude, what are you guys doing out here in the middle of nowhere? Also, you guys could be literally anywhere in the country, and we found you here. [00:50:26] Speaker A: What are the odds? Pilot. [00:50:28] Speaker B: But anyway, yeah, their whole band is great. Mandy there are. They're gonna be on the Aldean tour. [00:50:34] Speaker A: Oh, that's gonna be. [00:50:35] Speaker B: It'll be me opening the show. Chase, Matthew, Lauren, Elena, and then Aldean for. So Lauren Lane is on half, and then it's Haley Witters. So they're splitting it. But. So first of four. But, yeah, I'm excited to be out with it. With the chase camp again. [00:50:52] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a fun. He's a fun. He's a fun guy. And he used to play. He used to play our rounds back. My rounds. Before COVID Yeah, before COVID Like, for a minute. Yeah, dude. I mean, he's been down. He's been. Been here and grinding and representing the folks north of. Just north of town and Robertson county and Cheatham county and Sumner county and all of that. But it's cool to see all these. All these spots. Are you going to Canada, bro? Have you been to Canada yet, bro? [00:51:16] Speaker B: We tried to go to Canada. We were supposed to play a show with nickelback. [00:51:21] Speaker A: Oh, that would have been sick in. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Vancouver, in their hometown at an arena. But I had to cancel. Like, we literally, like, what do you call it when you have to get your passports? Like, day of expedited. Expedited. Yeah, we had to drive to Georgia and expedite our passport. I paid, like, literally $1,200 to get my passport that day because we procrastinated all the way up until I had to have it. We're supposed to go up to Vancouver and play a show the next week and ended up having to have another surgery this year. I think we talked about this last time I saw each other, but, like, I'm cut, like, six times in my stomach that, like, a hernia or whatever. In my diaphragm. Yeah. Which is causing, like, acid reflux stuff all last year, dude. Yeah. I couldn't eat before shows, or I would, like, throw up, like, on stage. Brutal. So I ended up deciding to do that sooner rather than later because I knew the Aldine shit was coming up. I knew radio stuff was coming up. And then we had. I mean, I wasn't gonna get a break to get it done, so I just had to cancel the Vancouver show and get it done. I was on a liquid diet for, like, seven weeks. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Liquid diet? [00:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah, brother. I lost 25 pounds in three weeks. Jesus on this shit. I was drinking chicken broth and pedialyte. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Wow. [00:52:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:45] Speaker A: I don't know if I could do that. [00:52:46] Speaker B: I mean, I guess I ended up cheating on it. So it was really just chicken broth for, like, four weeks. [00:52:51] Speaker A: That's still a lot. [00:52:52] Speaker B: I started eating, like, oatmeal and, like, grits and shit. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Easing into it. [00:52:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, week five, six, so. But still did. I lost 25. So if you ever need to lose weight, dude. [00:53:01] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. For all the. All the. All the high school and collegiate wrestlers out there. Liquid diet. That'll get you down. Making your weight. [00:53:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it was brutal, but good now. So we're solid. [00:53:12] Speaker A: But. So that was. That would have been your first time to Canada. [00:53:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:16] Speaker A: So now to get to go. Now we're going to Toronto. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Oh. [00:53:19] Speaker A: And you're doing a New York City show. [00:53:20] Speaker B: We're going to Australia. [00:53:21] Speaker A: You go to Australia. [00:53:22] Speaker B: We're playing in Australia this year. Doing. What's it called? Riding. Riding. Riding hearts or whatever. In Australia. [00:53:27] Speaker A: The big festival. [00:53:28] Speaker B: Sydney and Melbourne. Melbourne, yeah. [00:53:31] Speaker A: So is it crazy how big this thing's gotten, dude? [00:53:35] Speaker B: Man, like, comparative, for sure. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And, like, you're still climbing and still nowhere near where you're gonna end up. [00:53:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that I would rather have the slow incline than you get. [00:53:45] Speaker A: To enjoy it more, I think, too. [00:53:47] Speaker B: And just, like, experience every. Every step of it, you know? [00:53:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:50] Speaker B: I feel like, you know, if I would have just kept where we were and it just went straight up, I would have never had to been, like, in a van. I would have never have known what it was like to travel with seven dudes, you know, in a sprinter. [00:54:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:03] Speaker B: And I would have just gotten straight into a bus, and, like, I would have been like, oh, this is great. But, like, I feel like all the, you know, fun stuff is happening now. [00:54:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Like, in a van full of dudes that do. [00:54:17] Speaker A: My favorite memories of my life were traveling around in a van in a sprinter with muscadine and traveling around in a. In the 43 50 with Trey Lewis. Yeah. [00:54:26] Speaker B: I mean, you have no choice other than to entertain each other, you know? [00:54:29] Speaker A: Dude, some of my favorite conversations were those late night driving back from a show in Mississippi or Texas with Gary and Charlie or being with TL and Terry and McElway and Ben Mitch and all those. [00:54:42] Speaker B: I bet that was a group to be around, dude. [00:54:44] Speaker A: Dude, it was. I never tour managed before, so, like. [00:54:47] Speaker B: I forgot your tour manager. [00:54:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I was the tour manager for three years. I got thrown right into it. They had never toured on that scale. So you have all that. It was. Yeah, it was wild. [00:54:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. My buddy's in that position now. A guy graduated with is now. He's my best friend in the whole world, but he's my tour manager now, and he's learning. I moved him from Kentucky to come tour manage up here, so he has an apartment up here now and is tour managing. [00:55:13] Speaker A: So how's he doing? [00:55:14] Speaker B: Great, dude. [00:55:15] Speaker A: Sounds like he's doing well. If you guys. [00:55:17] Speaker B: I think you met him, Zach. [00:55:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:55:19] Speaker B: Neck tattoo. [00:55:20] Speaker A: Yep. Oh, yeah. Makes sense now. Now just to say neck tattoo. That guy belongs in the Austin snow. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Yeah. No, we made a lot of bad decisions together. [00:55:28] Speaker A: Team minimum is, like, five. You gotta have five. Minimum. Five tattoos. [00:55:31] Speaker B: Last time I did a podcast with you, I don't think I had any tattoos. [00:55:34] Speaker A: No, I don't know if you did. You definitely didn't. You definitely didn't have the one on the net. [00:55:39] Speaker B: The neck was not there. I maybe had the hand. [00:55:41] Speaker A: I think that's. That was the one. Was the hand. What's the late. What's the most recent one? [00:55:47] Speaker B: My chest. [00:55:48] Speaker A: Your chest? [00:55:49] Speaker B: Not finished yet. I gotta go back in and finish it. [00:55:51] Speaker A: Jeez. Have any Mike stole tattoos? [00:55:54] Speaker B: Yeah, right here. [00:55:55] Speaker A: Oh, sick. That's. Yeah, that's a very mike stole looking tattoo. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I told him, literally, just. Just do whatever you want. Like, pick your favorite one out of your little booklet you brought and just do it. [00:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we're gonna be. [00:56:07] Speaker B: He's got a light hand, too. [00:56:09] Speaker A: He does. [00:56:09] Speaker B: Like, I didn't hardly feel it at all. [00:56:11] Speaker A: No, he's very good at what he does. We're working on getting him back down here more, so we'll give you that insider info. Like, you know, forget on the calendar with him. Was it in Michigan or Ohio? [00:56:21] Speaker B: Maybe it was in Ohio, because he. [00:56:22] Speaker A: Just shows up to shows at Ohio, and that's part of his thing is like, yeah, hey, I'll come hang out at the show. I'll tattoo any. Any you and any of the guys. Just get me into the show. [00:56:30] Speaker B: It's sick because I have a few friends like that. Like, tattoo wise. Like, a dude that I was in the military with does tattoos now. It has his own shop and stuff. And when we're out towards there, it was, you know, I just come out and tattoo everybody. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you get to catch up with your buddy. [00:56:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:45] Speaker A: While he's in king everyone. [00:56:46] Speaker B: And he'll, like, try to do it for free, but I'll tip him anyway. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Sick. [00:56:50] Speaker A: That's cool, dude. [00:56:51] Speaker B: It's cool to know cool people, man. [00:56:52] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, it's. And it's wild. The folks that you get to meet, like, did you meet any interesting people this weekend? I kind of stand out. Colorado, Nebraska. Any characters or anybody even, like, the stage. Take the stage, people, because there's always interesting people that you meet out there. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Like, Sioux Falls is probably the. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Oh, South Dakota is awesome. [00:57:12] Speaker B: That was probably the weirdest little thing. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Those folks. Did you go out to any of the bars out there? Yeah, the bars are fucking wild. They're. They're different out there. [00:57:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we went to a strip club out there, dude. [00:57:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, the South Dakota. That Sturgis culture, it's different. [00:57:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it was one stage, and, like. Yeah, it's pretty much like a cubicle. [00:57:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:33] Speaker B: I don't know, dude. We gave her. This is crazy, but we gave. Our sound guy comes from the church van type stuff. [00:57:41] Speaker A: A lot of the good ones do. Yeah. [00:57:42] Speaker B: And he's no longer our sound guy, but he comes from, like, the church worship thing, and we brought him out. We were in Sioux Falls. We had three days in Sioux Falls that we went out early and just had three days to kind of hang around. [00:57:56] Speaker A: Oh, those days off in the city, depending on where you're at. [00:57:59] Speaker B: We don't get them very often. No, we were ready to go, like, do something, bro. Yeah, we were in Sioux Falls, and I was like, there's nothing out here. And so we were trying to figure out what to do, and we were like, there's a strip club, dude. Let's go hit that up. And, like, the sound guy's like, I think I'm good. I don't want to go to the strip club. And I was like, you're gonna go to the strip club, dude, come on. [00:58:16] Speaker A: This is team hunting. This is team building. [00:58:18] Speaker B: Like, you're single, bro. Don't worry about it. Like, you don't have to do nothing. Yeah, we show up, and, like, me and Zach, like, both get out collectively, probably a $1,000 out of the atm and hand it straight to the sound guy. And this kid is, like, the sweetest kid ever. Like, never heard of fly. Like, was super sheltered, and, like, just. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Like, just doesn't know. [00:58:38] Speaker B: Yeah, just didn't know. We gave him, like, collectively, probably a $1,000 throws the entire wad at one time on stage. [00:58:47] Speaker A: Rookie mistake. [00:58:48] Speaker B: Yeah, we were pissed. We were pissed, and we were like, hey, don't do that. Anymore. But, yeah, Sioux Falls is great, man, without spilling too many beans. [00:58:58] Speaker A: Yeah, because we did. There's. Wiley is one of the bars that's out there, because I wish I remember the name. I went out there quite a. Quite a bit with Trey. We did a lot of. A lot of South Dakota dates over the years. [00:59:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we went to, like, a sports bar. I don't know what it. They had, like, a jukebox. It had, like, casino slots in the back of slots. [00:59:15] Speaker A: There's some places that just have slots everywhere. Like, when we were just in Illinois and Bloomington, we went to the town of Bloomington, went. Ate at this little pizza place. They had, like. They had slot machines in the pizza joint. They've slot machines everywhere in some of these. [00:59:27] Speaker B: I'm not a gambler, but my team is very much. [00:59:30] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:59:31] Speaker B: So he'll. He'll hit every. He'll hit a loves slot room. [00:59:35] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:59:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:36] Speaker A: That's greasy. [00:59:38] Speaker B: It is very. [00:59:38] Speaker A: That's greasy. That's some trailer park boy. [00:59:40] Speaker B: But he has a good track record, man. We went. We went into one, and he handed each of us a $100, which is like $600 collectively. Lost every bit of it. This is on our way to the show. Yeah, lost every bit of the money. And we drove off. Cause we were running late. We were coming back from the show. We stopped at the same loves, and he's like, hey, we're stopping. I was like, no, we don't have time. He's like, no, I'm stopping at this fucking gloves, dude. He goes back in there by himself and comes back out with dollar 800. [01:00:08] Speaker A: Wow. [01:00:09] Speaker B: So he made all of his money back. [01:00:10] Speaker A: All his money back plus 200. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah, he does this shit. [01:00:14] Speaker A: What's on the Austin snow rider? [01:00:17] Speaker B: I need to upgrade it, man. [01:00:18] Speaker A: What's on it right now? [01:00:19] Speaker B: I haven't touched it in a while. We have. I got hummus and Chips, Tito's Jack and Red Bull sprite, and Coca Cola. [01:00:29] Speaker A: So no beer, just liquor. [01:00:31] Speaker B: We get bush. Like. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Oh, you get bush? [01:00:33] Speaker B: We're sponsored now. [01:00:34] Speaker A: Hey, there you go. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we stay stocked on bush light. [01:00:37] Speaker A: There you go. [01:00:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:38] Speaker A: All right. [01:00:39] Speaker B: This is also a crazy thing to think about, is like, we're sponsored by fucking bush lightning. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah. You remember when you were. When you were. [01:00:44] Speaker B: When I wasn't sponsored by Bush Light? [01:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:47] Speaker B: You know. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Having a fun, paid for beer. [01:00:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, dude, we're gonna be on the car this weekend on the bush light car. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Oh, your face is gonna be on the car face. [01:00:59] Speaker B: My name? My name. [01:00:59] Speaker A: Your name is gonna be on the bush light car. [01:01:01] Speaker B: Ross Chastain. [01:01:03] Speaker A: That's fucking cool. [01:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I think they're racing in Nashville whenever they're racing. [01:01:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That's this weekend. Yeah. Are you going to race? Are you out of town? [01:01:10] Speaker B: We're out, but there's, like, all the bush light sponsored artists on the car. My name's on the. On the side of it. [01:01:18] Speaker A: That's pretty sick. Yeah, that's some. That's some. That's some Georgia boy bragging right there. [01:01:22] Speaker B: Oh, dude. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Your name. Your name. Ever been on a NASCAR? Your name ever been up there on the hood with that bush lot? Yeah, dude, that's something to go back to Dublin and brag about. [01:01:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I haven't even been back to Dublin. [01:01:34] Speaker A: When was the last time you were home? [01:01:36] Speaker B: What? [01:01:36] Speaker A: Do your parents not even live in Dublin anymore? [01:01:38] Speaker B: Yeah, they don't live in Dublin. They live in canton now. When I get back home, I go to Canton, but I think last time I was there was Thanksgiving last year, and I didn't go anywhere. I just went to my, like, aunt's house and was there for a day and left, so I didn't. I've never. I haven't been back to Dublin since Nashville and, like, walked around into Walmart. [01:01:56] Speaker A: Is there a place to play down there? [01:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a couple now. Yeah. The first place I ever played ever was company supply in downtown Dublin. We need to go back and do a pop up show. [01:02:09] Speaker A: I was gonna say that would be cool to do something in lower Georgia. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we tried to do it late last year before the headline tour, and they said they were booked out. [01:02:21] Speaker A: Come on. You not even have a Thursday. Yeah, we could pack this place out on a Thursday. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah, my manager called there, like. Like, manager, and he was like, hey, y'all got any room for, like, Austin Snell to come do a pop up show? And they're like, first off, who's that? Secondly, though, we're booked. [01:02:40] Speaker A: You mean Austin snow that gave, like, a play for 4 hours, and I. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Was gonna do it for free, dude. I was gonna go down there, and. [01:02:47] Speaker A: I'm saying, like, back in the day when you were playing, like, the COVID gigs and shit? [01:02:50] Speaker B: $50, bro. Yeah, I got paid $50 to do that. That. But, um, yes, maybe I don't need to get back to Dublin, dude. [01:02:58] Speaker A: I think it'd be really cool if you do it. [01:03:00] Speaker B: We'll go across the street to. [01:03:02] Speaker A: That's what you do. You go across the street, and they're. [01:03:04] Speaker B: Like, we'll get a saltwater fishery and. [01:03:07] Speaker A: We had our chance. [01:03:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:09] Speaker A: That's awesome. So this record, man, what can. What do people have to kind of expect? What you said is we're entering kind of like a new era. [01:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:16] Speaker A: You as an artist and everything like that. [01:03:18] Speaker B: I think, you know, I'm trying to hit every nail on the head for this record. I'm. Obviously. There's still the rock thing on there. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of storytelling, country stuff. There's even some hip hop type stuff on there. [01:03:34] Speaker A: Oh, some 808s. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Some 808s in there. And so, yeah, I just wanted to really hit everything that I felt like I was ever going to be as an artist on this record and not really hold back. So, you know, I talk about this a lot, is, like, you know, growing up, I had an ipod in middle school, and on my ipod, it went from Alan Jackson to nickelback to Lil Wayne to Rihanna, like, you know, drake or whatever. And I feel like most of the people that grew up that way are now listening age. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:09] Speaker B: And consuming music. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I kind of just collectively take all of that into my music, and I think that's what this album is for me. You know, it's a. It feels a lot more mature than the last project I put out. I feel like the last project just had a lot of cool songs on it. I think this project kind of speaks to me as a person a lot more. And, you know what I would want to listen to as a listener. So we're excited for it. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Dude, that's awesome. I'm super excited for it, too. And then also, I wanted to ask. I don't see it on here. So you'll be out with. You'll be out with Jason. You probably. You don't have any, like, shows. Direct support for Chase coming up, right? Because I saw that my family, my mom, my mom, my stepdad, like I said, they live in. They live in Delaware, and my mom keeps an eye on. They're involved with, like, raise ride. They help us out on, like, the back end of stuff, and they love it, like, all the merch. And my mom, like, watches as people are coming through. She's like, oh, my God, you got to tell. You got to tell Austin if he's coming through to anywhere near Delaware, we'll come to the show, and we'll bring a tray of Penne vodka for Austin and the boys. [01:05:14] Speaker B: What? [01:05:15] Speaker A: Penne alla vodka. It's a bit. It's a pasta that's, like, really good. Yeah. My mom makes pasta. She'll go to see somebody that we've had on, like, the potter. Like, somebody that she knows, because she follows all the artists that we have on, like, from people that are, like, coming up as, like, writers that are playing our rounds. Like, she'll just stalk them on Instagram. Like, love. [01:05:34] Speaker B: Sounds like my mom. [01:05:35] Speaker A: Yeah, she loves it. But, Eddie, if there's any of these northeastern shows, I'll have to let you know, because they. My mom will show up, and she'll have a tray of some of the best pasta that you've ever had, and just hand it. Hand it to you or Zach. And. And you boys will be. [01:05:51] Speaker B: If we're ever in a city where, you know they're at or, like, wherever you're at, just hit me up. [01:05:55] Speaker A: Right. [01:05:55] Speaker B: We'll get y'all in there. [01:05:56] Speaker A: Because I was gonna say they. My mom's like, I want to. I just want to feed the boys. I just want to feed. I know how hungry you boys get when you're on the road. Like, I just want to feed everybody. [01:06:04] Speaker B: She's got us up north, dude. My momma's got us in the south. [01:06:06] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's. That's the key to it, man. That's awesome. Your parents get out to a lot of shows? [01:06:11] Speaker B: They've been to a few, man. They're. They're actually coming out. We're doing our album release show tomorrow. Yeah. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Over at acme, right? [01:06:16] Speaker B: Acme? [01:06:17] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. What time's that? So later. Later in the day, I would presume. Okay, cool. Yeah, I got a pot at, like, 630, but I'm gonna try to make. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Like, seven or eight. [01:06:26] Speaker A: Okay. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to make it over. [01:06:27] Speaker B: There, but, yeah, album release tomorrow. They're coming out for that. And then they're gonna obviously make some of the Aldean shows. They make it out to a good bit, dude, looking back. Yeah, they come out of shows. [01:06:38] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:06:39] Speaker B: For sure. My mom just, like, your mom, she. She just, like, stalks random people and, like. Yeah, she text zeb probably three times a day, probably. Because I don't. Like. I don't respond to anybody. Like, I'm sure you know this by now. Like, I don't ever respond to text messages. Just cuz, like, I'll. I'll see it, and then I'll say, I'll respond to it later, and then I never will. Yeah. But I don't respond to my mom a lot on text just because I just get so many text messages and social text, like, people on my team to get answers to questions. [01:07:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:10] Speaker B: And I was talking to Allie this morning. I was like, at some point, like, I'm literally gonna have to have a person on my team that is, like, designated for Lisa. Yeah, mom. But, hey, can you just make sure my mom has her questions answered? [01:07:21] Speaker A: Yeah. That's kind of what I was doing with Trey, with his mom Wendy, when I was out there, I would make sure Wendy and Joel and everybody in the. [01:07:28] Speaker B: In the Lewis family slowly transition into Zach's job. My team. [01:07:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:32] Speaker B: But, yeah, I'll have to have somebody on the team for sure. [01:07:34] Speaker A: That's awesome, dude. Dude, I'm so fucking stoked for you and so glad that we were able to do this. I know this week especially trying for a minute. [01:07:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm glad we finally caught. [01:07:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause we were trying to do it, and I'm glad. It's, like, nothing against the podcast that we did that we released this past week of. From Tailgate and Tallboys. Those were all fun, but it's like, those are, like, quick little, like, ten minute hitters. It's cool getting to catch up with a homie. And you like that surfside, by the way. [01:07:59] Speaker B: It's freaking awesome, dude. [01:08:00] Speaker A: It just. They taste like iced tea. They're just iced tea. They're just iced tea. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Vodka could be dangerous. [01:08:06] Speaker A: Yes. Nikki T says they are crushable. We're gonna be. We bring these to, like, our razor outdie tailgates when we're at the festivals and people just go nuts. Like, back in my drinking days, these would've been very dangerous for me. And they're only. And they're only, like, 100 calories. There's got two. 2 grams of sugar in it. Like, it's not. Doesn't have all the hangover shit. It. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I could. I could beer bong a lot of these. [01:08:26] Speaker A: I was gonna say, we've. We've seen people shotgun them. We're bringing them to Ohio with us. I'm in a couple weeks for country concert, but. But also, dude, still bleeding coming out this week. All the Aldean tour stuff, man. Just congrats on everything. Thank you, brother. And I give you a lot of credit for just being still the fucking. The same dude that we met a couple years ago, the same dude that Sarah was blogging about back. Back when you were still. Still out in the air force and everything. Dude, you're killing it. And we're happy to have you on a razor outdoor. [01:08:57] Speaker B: So just a fan of music. You know. [01:08:58] Speaker A: And we'll let you know when our next butt rock night is. [01:09:01] Speaker B: Let me know. Dude, I think I missed the last one. [01:09:03] Speaker A: We will. We will let you know. We're working on the details of that. So it'll be sometime this fall. We talk about it off camera. [01:09:10] Speaker B: That butt rock night is the reason why we cover three doors down at our show. [01:09:12] Speaker A: Now, dude, we. And we love when you cover that song. So, brother, I appreciate you. I'll be sure. Pre save. I've got a pre saved, y'all. It'll be out by the time this episode is out. So go check out still bleeding the new album for our man Austin Snell. Be on the lookout. You can see him on tour opening for the man himself, Mister Jason Aldean, and all kinds of great stuff coming. Be sure to look up our boy Austin Snell. Thank you guys, as always, for listening, watching. Shout out to our friends from Surfside, y'all. Go crush you some surfside. Find them wherever you get your booze. And be sure to visit Razer. Howdy.com for more. So for my man Austin Snell, I'm Matt Barrel. This has been outside the raft. [01:09:58] Speaker B: I. [01:09:59] Speaker A: Never been the kind for stiff one place for too long I never been the best at sin I love you to a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just made a so if you know me, if you really know me know I'm just a two trick bony maybe the drink and the lack of money for show I'm just a two. [01:10:29] Speaker B: Trick on it yeah.