Travis Van Hoff

August 05, 2019 00:44:34
Travis Van Hoff
Outside The Round w/ Matt Burrill
Travis Van Hoff

Aug 05 2019 | 00:44:34

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Matt Burrill

Show Notes

Travis Van Hoff is not our usual guest. Hailing from Utah, singer-songwriter Travis Van Hoff has lived a few different lives on his musical journey. Listen to the boys talk to Travis about his experiences on Warped Tour, what led to his transition into country music, and the unique almost unbelievable  journey that has brought him to where he is now.  He also opens up about his goals for the remainder of 2019 and when he expects new music to be out. Listen in as the boys go In The Round with Travis Van Hoff on his first, but surely not last, trip to Nashville! 

'Mama's Eyes' - Travis Van Hoff and Carly Rogers 

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Speaker 0 00:00:00 What is up everyone? Welcome to this week's edition of the In Thero podcast. You got Matt and Tyler and damn, these new mics sound good? Yeah, man, they sound really, really good. Got some new technology on this week's episode, and we have ourselves a damn cool guest. A guy that we met randomly in Midtown after a really cool round took place over at Whiskey Road. It's our buddy Travis Vanoff. Tyler Travis. A bit different from, uh, the usual guests that we have on. Speaker 1 00:00:27 Yeah, he's a, uh, another West Coast guy. Um, you know, we've been having quite a few of those lately here. And, uh, they're great guys. Great songwriter comes from like the, uh, warp Tour world Yeah. And is not doing country music, Speaker 0 00:00:41 So, yeah. So it is a damn good episode. Don't wanna spoil the rest of it for you, but his name is Travis Vanoff. He's doing some big things and, uh, we got to talk to him. And here is a little snippet of one song that he played for us. This one's called Never Land Speaker 3 00:01:09 Climb. Speaker 2 00:01:15 There's Speaker 3 00:01:15 No one around alone take a chance. It's more than a dream. I need you to see place when no one seems to sleep. It's more than a dream. I need you to away. Speaker 0 00:02:23 What is up everyone? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler, and we have got with us. You meet so many cool people in this town, just a random night, and you're just going out and meet people, some people that are in town, some people that are checking out the town that are here on business, that are here up for music stuff. And we have a guy that we got to meet while just being out midtown, and it was, we had ourselves a hell of a night. We became cool, cool friends. And turns out he's a badass singer songwriter guitar player, and, uh, got some new music coming out in the next year. Yeah. And he's been grinding really hard. We've got our buddy Travis Vanoff. Travis, how you doing, buddy? Speaker 4 00:02:59 I'm good. I'm good. Thanks for having me. This is awesome, Speaker 0 00:03:01 Dude. No problem. Glad we were able to fit it in the schedule. Uh, I know these trips can be busy and sometimes hectic because you try to fit so much in while you're, while you're in town with taking different meetings and just meeting people and getting a taste of what the scene has to offer. So what are your thoughts on Nashville right now? Speaker 4 00:03:18 You know, it's, they've welcomed me with open arms. I mean, we met you guys like the first night and it's just been, you know, great ever since all your boys here and, you know, it's been, it's been fantastic. So Speaker 0 00:03:28 This was, that was your first night in Nashville? That Speaker 4 00:03:30 Was our first night, I think. So Speaker 0 00:03:31 A question that we always ask people is, your first night, like downtown or your first night out in Nashville, you had a pretty good first night. We always ask people what was like the first night that they, they don't remember in Nashville. And usually it's that within that first week of moving here. But for you, we just had a, we just had a killer time. Speaker 4 00:03:47 Yeah, we did. We, we went down to Whiskey Row and, uh, and, and watched all the guys there playing at the, at the round and then somehow just started talking to Jake Arch afterwards. Yeah. And, uh, and he's like, Hey, we're having this private one over at, you know, at, uh, live Oak, you should come over. And I'm like, okay, we'll be there. And then that's when like, it really like the, the friendship began, so it was great. Yeah, Speaker 0 00:04:07 Dude. And, uh, and you, you got some pipes on you. You can sing, man. Thank you. You can do the damn thing now. Now what's the musical journey for you? So how do you get started? You're from Utah originally? Speaker 4 00:04:17 Yeah, from Utah originally. So, uh, when I was 21, uh, I, well, let's, let's go back a little bit. When I was 18, I, you know, just outta high school I released a, an acoustic album. Um, and then when I was 21 is when I, I wouldn't say that first album was anything good. It was just, you know, it would you get the first one out of the, Speaker 0 00:04:35 Get yourself out there? Absolutely. Speaker 4 00:04:37 Sure, sure. And then when I was 21, I moved to LA and, uh, you know, play was playing around there. Uh, I did, uh, street performing at Santa Monica at Third Street Promenade, if you're familiar with that area. Okay. Um, but, uh, yeah, that was fun. And then I, I joined a band actually, um, that we played, um, you know, house of Blues, uh, from Anaheim to, to Sunset and before, you know, the Sunset one closed down. But, um, yeah. And then we played Warp Tour a little bit and Nice. With the, uh, 3 0 3 was the year that they, they were headlining. And so it was, it was a pretty crazy time, uh, different style of music back then for sure. Uh, still trying to find myself, you know, but I feel like finally kind of, you know, going through a couple different bands, uh, having some successes here and there. Um, I've, I've been able to tour the country and stuff a few times and, um, now I feel like I'm home here in Nashville, so it's good. Speaker 0 00:05:32 That's dope, man. Yeah. And now growing up in Utah, <laugh>, what's the music? I've never been to Utah. I know that Salt Lake City, I know that you got the Utah Jazz. I know college football is pretty big out there at BYU and Utah. Right? Speaker 4 00:05:44 Right. Speaker 0 00:05:45 What, what, what was growing up out there like for you? Speaker 4 00:05:48 Uh, you know, it's, um, it's a different world out there for sure. I mean, there's a lot of Mormons, you know, obviously <laugh>. Speaker 0 00:05:55 Okay. Well that's like, down here is the buckle of the Bible belt. It's the same kind of thing where you have a large religious group. And I grew up in New York where there's a large population of say like Hasidic Jews and stuff, you know? Right, right. Like, there's certain areas. So Utah is the home of the Mormons. Speaker 4 00:06:07 Right, for sure. And so there's a lot of that around, but I mean, there's also quite a, and I'd say within the most recent years, it's kind of swung in a different direction. Um, people are realizing, you know, a lot of outdoor people are really loving Utah just because it's so close to the mountains. They're like, I mean, Denver talks about, you know, we live in the mountains, but it's like, you know, hour and a half to get to any resort from Denver. Yeah. Whereas like Utah, it's literally like 20 minutes and you're in the mountains. Yeah. And so I feel like a lot of people are moving to Utah that are not, you know, religious that just, you know, for that Yeah. Outdoor aspect. And so it's been, it's been good. It's been a lot of, uh, diversity in the last few years. So it's, it's fun. Awesome. Speaker 0 00:06:46 Awesome, man. I didn't know Tyler's eyes perked up. I thought he might have had something there, but, um, but you, so you taught what brought you out to la What was that process like? Because it seems like that's where you got a lot of your music going. Speaker 4 00:06:58 Yeah. Uh, you know, just being young and naive and was like, well, I gotta move to LA if I want to be in music <laugh>. And so I did <laugh>, you know, I, there was no plan necessarily. Uh, you know, I didn't have any connections or anything at that time. And so it was just moving out there to try to make it. And, you know, LA was the closest, you know, music city, uh, you know, to to Utah. And so it was something, it was, it was familiar to me cause I'd been to, you know, southern California quite a bit growing up and stuff. And so, um, just kind of moved there on a whim and, and somehow joined a band and Yeah. Started to plug away. Speaker 1 00:07:33 So that, uh, band that you toured, war tour, what was the name of them? Speaker 4 00:07:37 The Quin. Speaker 1 00:07:38 The Quin? Yeah. Speaker 0 00:07:39 No. So what kind of style were they? Speaker 4 00:07:40 It was like a pop punk type of Speaker 0 00:07:42 Stuff. Pop punk? Nope. That's awesome. Yeah. That's cool. That's so, so something funny about me and Tyler. So we're out on the road a lot together just driving around here in Tennessee or out on the road together doing whatever. And he, he, um, he's some, if I'm driving, he'll sometimes take control of the radio, which I'm always like, if the driver, the driver's gotta be in control of the radio. There's a station. Speaker 1 00:08:00 No, that's a shotgun job. Speaker 0 00:08:01 <laugh>, there's a stereo, there's a, there's a station. Yeah, there's a station on, on Sirius that's like Pop Rocks and it's a lot of like pop punk and like the, like the rock that crossed over in the pop of the two thousands. And that's like his favorite one to put on, so That's awesome. Speaker 1 00:08:14 Awesome. He gives, gives me so much shit about it until he actually like, started listening to it one day I get in the car and it's all, I was like, oh yeah, what's this? And he goes, yeah, I've actually kind of warmed up to this channel. I was like, see? Speaker 0 00:08:24 Yes. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:08:25 That's awesome. Speaker 0 00:08:26 So what, what was that style of music like? What would you kind of compare that to? Or what was that scene like for Speaker 4 00:08:31 You? Uh, you know, it was good. We, we, uh, played a lot of Chain Reaction, which was a venue in Anaheim that's like a lot of bands started there, like Yellow Card and, you know, red Jumpsuit apparatus and stuff. Oh, nice. We, we opened for the Ataris there and Red Red Jumpsuit apparatus, uh, sayin at House of Blues. And so it was kind of in that realm of like, uh, you know, just, we were kind of on the back end, I feel like, of that wave of music. Okay. And so it was, there was a lot of bands that made it before us in that realm, and it was, you know, they weren't really ready for any new bands, I guess, to make it outta that. Yeah. But, but yeah, I mean it was, it was definitely more of that like yellow card vibe that, um, uh, what's that one band? I can't think of the name now, but yeah. Like Red Jumpsuit Apparatus and all that, Speaker 0 00:09:18 That like upbeat, just rock rocking, but also, but very me, merry melody. Right. Speaker 4 00:09:24 Lot of for sure. Heavy med. Yeah, definitely. So for you Speaker 0 00:09:27 Crossing over now and doing this country thing, what's that process been like for you and where did that kind of start? Or you're going from making that kind of music that's heavy Melody Rock, very West Coast to now you're here in Nashville and you're, you're doing the damn thing. Right. Right. What that process Speaker 4 00:09:43 Been like? You know, I, I grew up, uh, on country. Um, my, my dad loves, you know, Garth Brooks. I grew up on Thunder rolls and I and George Strait and Allen Jackson and all that stuff. And so, you know, I, I definitely have country in my roots and, you know, from the sequence, I then formed a band Van Lady Love. And, uh, that was more, uh, it was kind of a, it wasn't pop rock at all. It was more like, uh, imagine dragon style kind of, it was still like very melody driven and, and a lot of, uh, you know, rock I guess in, in it and stuff. But it was kind of a getting away from that pop rock. And now I feel like moving from, uh, from that band into my solo career, uh, into, um, you know, I feel like country is such a vague term these days. Speaker 4 00:10:31 I mean, you've got like the pop you've got like the, the Eric Church Rock and Chris Stapleton. And so it's like, you know, I think that it's gonna be just more of who I am, and it just kind of the songs that I write, and it kind of leans on that country world anyways. And honestly, like in a lot of the stuff I've recorded previously, I feel like you can hear in my voice some country undertones. Yeah. And so, and then, then this, the production that was put on it was not country. And so it was, it kind of didn't lean that way, but I mean, in my voice it's always kind of been there. Speaker 0 00:11:02 Yeah. And you talk about the songwriting country is, is huge with storytelling and huge in that side of it. And coming from out in that, is it considered Mountain West? Would you consider Utah Mountain West as a frontier country? Or what? What's that? I've never been out there. I've been, I think Arizona once, which is the, which is not quite, Speaker 4 00:11:18 Yeah. Yeah. It's Southwest. Speaker 0 00:11:20 It's Southwest. Okay. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, coming from that area, it seems like storytelling has always been like a big thing out there with that in your songwriting. How does that kinda all work into Speaker 4 00:11:29 It? You know, it's, it's, it's great. I love, uh, westerns just, you know, movies or TV shows and stuff like that. Just, I love the, the aspect of the west and just kind of that, um, kinda living simple lives, living on the prairie, living on wild West type of thing. And, and I think that that's kinda where I'm gonna draw a lot of my storytelling from. Is, is, uh, is kind of that living, you know, I feel like out, out here on the east of the Mississippi, there's, you know, there's a lot of growth. There's, there's, you know, houses everywhere. It's like, there's not a whole lot of open land. And, and even like, um, BLM land, like there's not really public land anywhere out here on the East Coast and out west. I mean, there's public land like everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Just so much public land. And so it's just like this, like freedom almost. Like this, uh, wild West kind of freeing, uh, vibe is kind of the, uh, the, I, you know, the idea behind this new record. Speaker 0 00:12:27 Right. So new record, that's a, that's a cool word. That's something we like here in those two words, put together new and record. Yeah. So I'm assuming this is gonna be more of the country style. This is, so this is your for, is this your first solo project that you're putting out? It's in this, in this realm. It is. Now. What was the process of going through that? What made you want to go go solo, if you don't mind me asking? Speaker 4 00:12:46 Uh, you know, I think it was inevitable. Um, the band, it kind of gets to a point where, uh, people just want different things. You know, people have different ideas of what it should be, what the sound should be, Speaker 0 00:12:59 Creative differences. Yeah. Right. That's, that's the term that people that I always hear. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:13:04 That's a hot word now. Speaker 0 00:13:05 Yeah. Is it? Speaker 1 00:13:07 Yeah, it is. You know, that's what a lot of people right now are fighting over and stuff is just, you know, creative differences. Like, you know, you got people that sign the labels and get, you know, this image cast on them that aren't doing what they want to do and send the, then they leave for creative differences. So that's something really right now. Speaker 0 00:13:27 Yeah. That's like even guys in, in the country around, like, Charlie Worship is a guy that comes to mind where he wanted to do what he wanted to do and, and then went independent of guys or Tucker Beard, they get, they get outta their deal and they do their thing. Or if you're in a group and you're in a band, I, I learned this weekend, I got to go out on the road with a, with a band and see what road life is like. You're with those people for a long time. Like you're, yeah. You're, you're up when you're on the road with somebody. So if something's not feeling right and, and you have that difference and you have that urge where you got, you want to do your own thing, like, that's, that's gotta be, gotta be tough. That's a, that's a big decision to make. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:14:00 It, it was actually, um, you know, it, it was always in the back of my mind, um, that I would at some point in my career, go country, I guess. Yeah. As people say Go country or whatever. But, um, yeah, I, I think that it was just that I was in this band and it was having success and so I was just like, well, I can't, I mean, why fix what's, you know, you can't fix what's not broken type of thing. So I didn't know at the time, you know, you're in so such in the thick of it, you, you kind of don't, you know, it's hard to kind of step back and Speaker 0 00:14:30 See. Yeah. You don't wanna walk away from success. Right. Especially when you're having success. Now, were you guys torn around the country? Were you guys primarily West coast? What was going on in terms of terms of that stuff? Speaker 4 00:14:39 Right, right. We, uh, we were booked by ICM Partners actually. And so our agent booked us, uh, from coast to coast. Like I've played East Coast, a bunch West coast, a bunch. East Coast is easier to to tour cuz really how cities are just so much closer. Like, I can play in like Philly and then two hours later, like it's only a two hour drive to like New York type of thing. Yeah. Whereas like out west it's like Salt Lake and then like eight hour drive to the next city type of thing. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:15:07 Yeah. Same with the Midwest too. Like, you know, you play like Iowa and then you gotta go to Chicago, like that's a nine hour drive and then you go down to like somewhere else, like everything. Like that's not the Northeast. Speaker 0 00:15:20 I was spoiled coming from New York, I was spoiled cause I used, I used to have, we used to have shows just coming through, coming through where I would get to go see concerts in Philly one night to New York, to Connecticut, to Boston, to Maine or just, yeah. So East Coast. What kind of, what, um, what, what cities were you torn in there? Is there one that sticks out? Like a show where that you got, that you've gotten to play at some point in your career? Speaker 4 00:15:40 Yeah, I would say New York really sticks out. I've played there a handful of times and for some weird reason, even though we're on the West Coast, that's where I made a lot of connections was just New York City. Um, so that's, you know, where our booking agent was out of was New York. Um, and our publicist actually, Britney Brave, she's out in New York as well. Nice. So yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, I feel like every time we come to New York, uh, we have a good show. You know, we, we have a good turnout. It, it's just the city is is got its own like energy that it you feed off of. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:16:14 Oh, absolutely. Well, there's that saying, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. There's eight, eight point something million people on a 13 mile island. Like places are not places in that small of an area. You're not supposed to have that many people. It's like New York, India, certain parts of China where you've got that kind of population, that area. Are there, um, is there a certain venue that you remember playing at Speaker 4 00:16:33 Up there? Um, yeah, we played at a few Rockwood Music Hall. It's great. Speaker 0 00:16:36 That's a dope spot. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:16:38 That was fun. We played at a couple times, uh, pianos we played at. Yeah. Um, so yeah, there's, there's a few places that we really loved playing out there. That's a Speaker 0 00:16:45 Cool crowd. And I can't wait for them to hear your country project cause they're, I Yeah, me too. Seriously. The, the, the side of, so what's really cool is that you're coming from kind of that alternative rock realm where, where the melodies, it's, there's some deep songs, that style of music, that genre brings out some very deep songs. Country can bring that out as well, especially with your voice. We got to hear you, um, pon like improv two performance at Live Oak that night. Yeah. Which, what was that like? You're, you're, you're finally, you're in Nashville your first night, you're with your boys here. Right. And you're, you meet up with us and we're having a, having a good time, and then all of a sudden you start hearing number one songs by the writers that wrote them. Like, you see Taylor Phillips get up there. Yeah. And he, he's bumping out hurricane and bumping out King Brown. It's, and songs that aren't even released yet. And then there's other guys that are up there just killing it and you're just sitting back. And what was that like taking that in? Speaker 4 00:17:35 Dude, that was, that was crazy. I, I remember we, uh, you know, Jake invited us over to the, uh, to that bar Live Oak, and we were sitting there and I was watching all these guys playing, and I turned to Gus and I'm like, man, like, we're not in this crew yet. Like, they, you know, like they, we, they haven't accepted us quite yet. Like we, I gotta get up there and like, and show 'em something that, you know, turns their heads. And, uh, you know, it was just like, uh, I was nerv, I was nervous, man. Like, I mean, as I played a bunch, but just like, kind of these intimate settings. Yeah. Especially with like, the caliber of people that were in the room. It was like, oh gosh. Speaker 0 00:18:11 It wasn't, it wasn't just fans at, at a random show in a random city. Right. It was, it was at the most maybe 30, 40 people, but everyone's industry. Exactly. Right. Exactly. Everyone, everyone's writing. There's some producers in there. There's all kinds of different, it's people that will know good music, but it's also what's cool about that. They, they hear a song that they like, or they're, they're, they're really listening to your lyrics. They're listening to your guitar playing. They're, they're listening to your voice. Like if they're hearing like a what was the thing that, uh, a key change, like the littlest things that most of us, most people that don't have musical backgrounds like myself won't pick up on they're picking up on. Right. And they're, and Hey, dude, you got a good reaction in there. Speaker 4 00:18:47 I, yeah, I was, it was hard, man. Like I just, yeah. I was getting up there and just like, oh, please. Hopefully they like this <laugh> playing, Speaker 0 00:18:55 Playing just a, just a random guitar. I think it was Tyler. I think it was, I think it was Jake Speaker 4 00:18:59 Jake's Speaker 0 00:18:59 Guitar. Was it Jake's guitar? Your guitar? Sophie, um, who had recorded with us earlier that week. She, um, her guitar was, it was like three guitars and there were like 15, 20 people that got up there and everyone was just using the same three guitars. Like nobody was using actually their guitar. It was just like a guitar pole, just people hanging out. It was just the chillest thing. We stayed there with it. We closed the place down. We were there a long Speaker 4 00:19:21 Time. Yeah, we were, it was crazy Right before we played, uh, I think that he, he's playing in a hurricane. Yeah. And there was a bunch of us on stage and I gotta like, get up and just kind of sing backgrounds on. I'm like, wow. Like I'm up here singing Hurricane with the man that wrote it, like, Taylor Phillips, are you kidding me? Like, this is crazy. Yeah. And then I was like, okay, I gotta follow that <laugh>. I'm like, what? Speaker 0 00:19:42 That's what was funny too. I think Ja um, Jacob Lutz was up there to a bunch of our, bunch of our buddies, Tyler. Um, and he was like, I don't even want to follow. Like, there there's the guys. And they're like, I don't wanna follow some of these guys up. Like, it like gets tough, but that's the, that's what's cool about Nashville. You never know. That was a Wednesday night, just a random Wednesday night in, in July, just random stuff happening. And it's, that's a cool moment, you Speaker 4 00:20:05 Know? Yeah. It was, it was a cool moment. And that's, I mean, that was the beginning of the trip for us. And so it's just like, yeah. Speaker 0 00:20:10 What have you been up to since then? Because I, I saw you on Wednesday, I haven't seen you since. Now we're fast forward to the following Monday. Speaker 4 00:20:16 Yeah. Uh, I did, uh, a few co-writes. Okay. Um, since I've been here, that was kind of the goal. Speaker 0 00:20:22 Carly Rogers you wrote Speaker 4 00:20:23 With Carly Rogers. I wrote One Mama's Eyes and it's a, it's a great song. Um, and so I, I did a co-write with her and then the next day, um, she was supposed to play writer's round at Doghouse and she was feeling sick, like her, her, she lost her voice and she had to leave that weekend for like a few shows. Yeah. And so she didn't wanna like push it and let, and so she asked me to fill in for her. And so then I gotta play Writer's Round <laugh>, which I mean, like, I was not expecting to even play anything while I was here. And that was just awesome. Um, and then the next day I had another co-write with a, uh, Kenny Fleetwood. Okay. Um, which is actually the guy, we got an email back this morning, um, the guy that we want to have do our record, this new record. And he's, he's in, he's just gonna open up the catalog and, and we're gonna do some more writing session sessions and Yeah. It's gonna be good. Speaker 0 00:21:11 Congratulations. That's, yeah. Thanks, man. So this has been a good trip and this is your first time in Nashville. It's Speaker 4 00:21:16 Been a very good trip. Uh, this is, I've actually played at the basement east a couple times, um, nice. In my, in my previous band, one Speaker 0 00:21:22 Of my favorite venues in this town Yeah. Is the basement east that place Rocks, doesn't it? Tyler, like that's, you've we've seen some good shows there. It's a, um, it's a, uh, bad badass venue and Yeah. That's great. So impromptu, impromptu writer's round, right. Then you get, then you're, then you filling in on a, on a writer's round. Yeah. You're playing in front of all these people. You get back something from the, from the producer, the catalog's gonna be opening pretty successful trip. Speaker 4 00:21:48 Yeah. Honestly, you know, we were just hoping to get some writing sessions while we were here and it, you know, expectations have been exceeded. So yeah. It's been, it's been great. You know, things, every morning we wake up and there's something new that's happening. That's good. And we're just, every day has been a good day since we've been here. Speaker 0 00:22:06 That's awesome, man. So when are you moving here, <laugh>? I know, Speaker 4 00:22:08 Right? I knew you were about to ask you that. Like literally Speaker 0 00:22:11 I was asking, I asked Gus that too, I think on, on Wednesday. I, I had asked him. I'm like, so dude, when when are you, when, when is, when is the camp gonna be, when is the Travis camp gonna be gonna be coming out Speaker 4 00:22:21 Here? I, you know, it should be coming sooner than later, man. I mean, we, Speaker 0 00:22:26 It's a cool city, isn't it? Speaker 4 00:22:27 It's, you know, just the city itself has been so amazing. Everyone that we've met has been so just genuine and accepting and loving of just mu good music. Yeah. And like, I mean, every day has been a good day, so I can't imagine what it would be like if we actually lived here, Speaker 0 00:22:42 Dude. It's people that get it, you know? It's people that get it. Yeah. And, and are, I mean, honestly, like they say, I mean, all, most of the guys that I work with security on Broadway, like Ethan and Dave and all those guys, they're writers and performers and they're working on Broadway. Um, you got people that are like Uber and Lyft drivers that are singer songwriters and musicians. You got like, literally anybody. The Speaker 1 00:23:02 The weirdest Uber ride I ever had. I was going from downtown to my house when I still lived in Nashville and I'm talking to this guy and I was like, yeah man, so what do you do? He goes, oh, I'm retired. And I said, oh cool. What'd you do before you retired? He goes, well, I was the, uh, I think he was the, uh, president of Disney Records. I was like, oh, cool. He's like, wow. Yeah. Under my like thing, like, I signed, like, I did the whole Cheetah Girls thing. I did all the high school musicals and my last thing right before I retired was signing the Jonas Brothers. Wow. And he was like, and I retired at like 47 because there was nothing that I could do that would be better. He's like, I would not be like satisfied with any other jobs. Now I just drive Uber and Lyft just to, to get out of the house. And I was like, <laugh> three times now. Speaker 4 00:23:49 Oh man, we gotta find him. Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>, we need that Uber driver. Speaker 0 00:23:52 But that's what's crazy is like, you never know who you're gonna bump into in this town. Right. And it's like the Alde song says crazy town. One day, one day you, they repossess your truck. The next you can make a million bucks or everybody plays. Everybody think everybody sings. Like it's, yeah. It's wild man. And have you gotten to see all the different parts of town? So you've been out on Broadway, so you've gotten to see that right? Right. What the cluster fuck that is Broadway, right? Speaker 4 00:24:13 Yeah. Speaker 0 00:24:14 Oh my. Have you been out there? Gosh, yeah. Were you guys out there on, on a Friday or Saturday night? Speaker 4 00:24:17 Saturday night. Yeah. We were, were out there. Speaker 0 00:24:18 Crazy. It's like crazy. It's like a bomb went off. It's freaking crazy, isn't Speaker 4 00:24:22 It? Yeah. It's crazy. Speaker 0 00:24:23 Now could you imagine that after a big concert at the arena? Gosh. Or while there's a football, gosh, game going on across the river or while the predators are in the playoffs, the hockey team. Oh wow. Couple years ago Tyler was here for this. I'll let him tell this. Yeah. The craziest the Nashville's ever been, we had Speaker 1 00:24:37 Bonnaroo CMA Fest and the Preds were in the Stanley Cup all at the same time. Now even when the Preds are just in the Stanley Cup, they're on, they like draw 50, 60,000 people downtown. Sure. And they shut down all the streets, the mum and Broadway, and they just set up big Jumbotrons and like there's, you know, 50, 60,000 people on the street plus the 20,000 in the arena plus Speaker 0 00:25:03 The 200,000 that are in town for CMA Fest. Yeah. Plus all the alternative, the Americana pop crowd that's in town for Bonnaroo was Bonnaroo is the landmark festival. I go to Speaker 1 00:25:11 Guitar Center that week. I had to go to Guitar Center, grooms Corner Music and Carter just to find a pack of strings that week. Speaker 0 00:25:18 Cause it was, Speaker 1 00:25:19 Everything was out there. Speaker 0 00:25:20 There were so many musicians in town. Speaker 4 00:25:21 Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. You gotta ship it. You just gotta buy 'em online I guess. <laugh>. Yeah. Which, Speaker 0 00:25:26 Which is, which is, which is uh, which is crazy. But, so you've gotten new experience Broadway, right? Right. You've got new what now coming from the alternative background, what do you think of East Nashville? You gotten to go over there at all on this trip or not quite? Speaker 4 00:25:37 Uh, yeah, we did a little bit. Um, we met actually, uh, Nick Ferrell out there. Nice. He's been he guitar player of Fillmore. Um, we, uh, we went and, and uh, hung out with him and his, his girl, his little baby girl and, and girlfriend and stuff. And uh, and I love East Nashville. I have a buddy that lives out there as well. Yeah. Actually, and Speaker 0 00:25:54 I was gonna say, come from the alternative world, that seems to be where that style of music, like the Americana Fest is, is huge here. Yeah. That, that goes on in the fall. Right. Tyler Americana Speaker 1 00:26:05 Fest. Yeah. That'll be going on in like September, October. Speaker 0 00:26:06 Yeah. In the fall. So like when that goes on, east Nashville like, is a cool vibe. And a lot of people just think, oh, Nashville's true. It's Broadway. It's the Wings and the Gulch. The bachelorette parties wait hours to get pictures in front of. It's all the goddamn pedal taverns that go around with all the drunks and all the idiots. It's this and that. Yeah. But then they forget about East Nashville. They forget about Midtown. They don't know all these Berry Hills a cool spot too. There's a lot of studios in there, publishing houses and things. Yeah. And there's all these cool spots to town. So it's important if you, that you've gotten to experience some of that. Speaker 1 00:26:37 Also, the uh, best burrito place in Nashville is down in Berry Hill, the Baja Burrito Speaker 0 00:26:42 Bay. I don't know, but there's a lot of good burrito places. That's the moodier food here is really good is by the way. Yeah. Like going around and trying different places is good now. What kind of food do you like being from Utah? What's, what's Taco known for? What do you got out there? You guys eat like bison and shit or what do you got? <laugh>. Speaker 4 00:26:59 You know there is bison. Yes. <laugh>. Speaker 0 00:27:02 What do you, honestly, what do you, what do you, what do y'all eat out there? Cause most of the people we have on here are like, some of are big barbecue people and Chip, Speaker 4 00:27:08 You know, there's some good barbecue in Utah right now. Really? Okay. But I feel like Utah, it's just this weird place where they love their chain restaurants. Like, there's a bunch of chain stuff. Speaker 0 00:27:18 Like, it's the home of like, if you want Ruby Tuesdays next to a TGI Fridays, next to a Chili's, they'll find it on one street in Utah. They'll find find. Speaker 4 00:27:25 Yeah, exactly. I mean, I, I like Mexican food. I, I'm a big guy at Chipotle and Speaker 1 00:27:30 Yeah, I just recently like, figured out how to do Chipotle. Right. For years I was a big Chipotle hater and like, you're just getting wrong thing. Finally figured out, finally figured out how to make it good. What's Speaker 0 00:27:42 The method? Fill the people in, man. Was it this, was it this weekend that you figured it Speaker 1 00:27:45 Out? No, no. It was like two months ago. Well, when I first started going down on the road, just the bowl with the double rice, double chicken, little bit of feed of veggies, a little bit of salsa and cheese and he put lid on it, mix it all up <laugh> about your day. Speaker 4 00:28:01 Love it. Love it. That's great. Speaker 0 00:28:03 Yeah. That's something I've learned is that eating on the road is, it can be wild. Like the road can be kind of crazy. What was the, what was going out in the road like for you coming from that life? Especially Speaker 1 00:28:12 On something like Warp Tour where it's just like moving a city. What, what is Speaker 0 00:28:16 A time war tour like? Cause I remember watching the show, it's the TV show a couple years ago where they're showing all the roadies and everything like that. What's it like being a part of something like that? Speaker 4 00:28:25 Dude, the Warped Tour is like a thing in and of itself. It's like hard to even explain. It's like its own country. They just do whatever the hell they want. <laugh>. I think it's just crazy, man. Um, it, I mean it was, it was good. We didn't play like the full United States Warp Tour. Yeah. We did like a West Coast run with it type of thing. So I didn't experience Speaker 0 00:28:45 Still a That's still a big experience. Speaker 4 00:28:47 Yeah. I mean it was still, I was Speaker 1 00:28:48 About to say what I was about to ask, what's it like playing, uh, Florida in the summer on Warp Tour? Because that's gotta be rough. Speaker 4 00:28:55 Yeah. I don't know. I didn't, I didn't make it that Speaker 0 00:28:57 Far. Well, what, what was California like in the summer though? Dude Speaker 4 00:28:59 Cal, it was great. It Speaker 0 00:29:00 Was playing, playing those shows in front of that crowd. Speaker 4 00:29:03 Yeah. It was a lot of, I mean, there's so many stages there. Um, but I mean, we were lucky to have a stage that was next to a big stage. And so like when they were changing over the big stage we were playing and so we gotta play in front of like the big crowd type of thing. Um, and so it was, I mean, it was awesome. It's just like a different animal man. Like, like people that are into that style of music are like only into that style of music in a lot of ways. Like, they, like they only go to Warp Tour. They only follow like those types of bands around and stuff. And so, um, they're, they're fans for life, you know what I mean? Like they, their whole lifestyle is about it type of thing. And so it's, it's crazy. Um, but I mean it was, yeah. I mean, what's Speaker 0 00:29:41 Coming from that alternative scene? What's the wildest thing you've seen go on in the crowd <laugh> wildest thing you've seen? Speaker 4 00:29:48 Uh, it was probably when, uh, when I saw the used, um, play live and uh, they, the guy, he was just like, okay, let's make a line right here in the middle. And so like, he separates the crowd and then he is like, okay. And he just starts naming off all these like things of, uh, just like enemies basically the you're, you're this, you're the south, you're the north or whatever. Right? Yeah. And then he is like, as soon as this song starts playing, I just want you to run at each other. Oh, wall of death of death. Yeah. A wall of death. Yeah. Oh no. And it was just, uh, I was like, as soon as that started happening, I was like, I'm getting away from the line <laugh>, I'm getting away from the front of the line. I'm not about that. So, but it was nuts, man. It was, it was a good time for sure. But it was, everyone just started going ham on each other and it was nuts. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:30:36 What's the wildest thing you've experienced on the road? Like road life? Like, oh, this, this could only happen while I'm on the road kind of thing. Speaker 4 00:30:43 <laugh>, uh, Speaker 0 00:30:45 I know what stays on. I know what happens on the road. Stays on the road. I know there's a lot of tales at that. You're out with your band of brothers, but what, what's something that you could share with us? Speaker 4 00:30:53 Yeah, I don't know. I'm a pretty mellow guy. Um, so I don't think I'd get myself into too much trouble, but, uh, maybe Speaker 0 00:30:59 Not you, but just something you experienced, like something you got to walk, like you're like, I don't know, like the van breaks down or you're out of ac or like just Speaker 4 00:31:08 Be like, shitty situation. Ok, here's good one. So the van we were coming into or actually drive back from south by Southwest and um, we, uh, we were coming into like Albuquerque, uh, and the van just all of a sudden just kind of dies on us and it is only going like 20 miles an hour. So we pull into this like truck stop and park it and we have to sleep literally in between semis, like at a truck stop overnight. So we're just like sleeping in our van, like on the, on the benches and stuff. Yeah. I was scared for my life the whole night. I mean, a truck stop. I mean, I, yeah, I don't know. I've never slept sleep in a truck like it, like literally in between semis. Yeah. And I don't even know, you know, what was going on outside the van all night, but I didn't Speaker 0 00:31:48 Wanna know. And if something happens, you can't have a quick getaway. If you're only getting up to 20 miles per hour, you're toast. Speaker 4 00:31:52 Yeah. We would've been toast for sure. Speaker 0 00:31:54 You brought up South by Southwest? Yeah. Oh, you would be toasting. Speaker 1 00:31:57 I just picture them like something happening. They're like just trying to go out and they're like, Speaker 0 00:32:01 Come on on, come Speaker 1 00:32:02 On. It's like the grandma on a scooter, like trying to run away from somebody and they're just like walking as fast as the van is driving. They're like, exactly. They're like, where are you going? Like, come on bro, let's go. Speaker 4 00:32:11 Yeah, for Speaker 0 00:32:12 Sure. Yeah. What was South by Southwest like? Cause that's a huge event. Speaker 4 00:32:16 Yeah, it was crazy. I mean the, the worst load in of my life, <laugh> really the, I, because it's just, you can't go down, what is it, like third street or something like that? Um, where all the, like the, the bars of music is the third or sixth. Yeah, maybe it's sixth. Yeah. Something like that. Um, some Speaker 0 00:32:31 Kind of number. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:32:32 Some number street, I don't know. Um, so we had to park like a mile away and load our gear in just the worst man. It was horrible. Um, so I, I mean, playing down there in South by Southwest, it's, it's crazy, you know, unless you're like playing on a, you know, a bigger stage, like a sponsored stage of some sort, you know, it's kind of hard to like break through all that noise. It's going on down there in South by Southwest, I mean, it, it was fun to go down and experience it and stuff, but like you get, you get lost in all the music. Music. Speaker 0 00:33:03 There's a lot, there's a lot of bands down there, right? Speaker 4 00:33:05 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's like every bar, like from like a mile, there's just bands playing of, of all Speaker 0 00:33:11 Styles too. Speaker 4 00:33:12 Yeah, exactly. Speaker 0 00:33:13 So you're literally, so you're drawing in it. Like, whereas Warped Tour or say like a Bon or a cma, you know what kind of crowd you're playing to, right? Anybody could just be walking in there that say they're like a country fan or they're more into like r and b and Soul, or they're more into alternative in indie. Like they're, they're not necessarily gonna be your crowd, right. So you're just, you don't, that's gotta be tough too, is playing on a festival circuit, playing and not knowing that it's like the word, it's not your show. Right. And not knowing the crowd as well. Speaker 4 00:33:39 Yeah. You know, it is, it is a lot harder in that sense. Um, I think that, uh, you know, I'm lucky enough to have been blessed with the, the voice I have and so I, I do turn heads when I sing. Yeah. And uh, you know, it's just, that's hopefully the one thing that like breaks through the noise. They're like, oh wait, this guy can actually sing. Yeah. And so, Speaker 0 00:33:58 Yeah. Talking about Travis Vanoff, the country, the country singer songwriter now. Wow. Um, what's, um, for you, what's the songwriting process of going from, I'm assuming you were doing some writing when you were with your other projects, right? Right. What's the writing process been like now? Writing country? Speaker 4 00:34:17 You know, it is a little different cuz it's more storytelling like you were saying earlier. Um, and so I think that was the, um, that was the biggest reason to come out here to Nashville was to kind of get in with some other songwriters that have been writing in the country world for, you know, every day for the past however many years. And so it's just, you know, I think that's really what's opened my eyes in, in writing in country and, and working with these other people like Carly Rogers and uh, uh, Kenny that we wrote with. Yeah. And um, actually tonight I think we're gonna be writing with Jake, so that'll be fun. Oh, dope. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Speaker 0 00:34:53 Yeah. So you're getting all different styles. I'm not as familiar with Kenny with what Hi Exactly. His style is, but Carly's got obviously that female, she's featured him like that, that hick hop world with, with Upchurch, but also has her mainstream sound. And then art is more of that mainstream sound. So you're getting a little bit of a, you're dabbling within the different styles of country, which as a whole is a different style for you. Speaker 4 00:35:12 Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Definitely. I mean, you know, I realize that, you know, in a full record you don't want every song to sound the same. Yeah. Cause people get over that so quickly. Yeah. And so I've been trying to kind of diversify the songwriting so that it does, you know, we have like this country banger that I, I feel like, you know, Jake Arch and, and these boys here kind of write, and then Carly is more on that like singer songwriter, like that Well the song we wrote, it was just this beautiful melody. Um, and so, you know, we want to hopefully make it a, a full album of, you know, good songs but like different so that people don't Yeah. Want to skip to the next album or whatever. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:35:52 And you want to figure out the way to sonically have it all come together. Yes. Which is the hard part, which is what, what Kenny will be working on. Right. Speaker 4 00:35:58 Which is cool. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:35:59 That's cool. You locked that locked down the producer and stuff, that's huge for you. Yeah. Um, now, uh, what are the goals for the rest of 2019? We're already coming into August, which is crazy by the way. That is crazy. Fastest years going on. Yeah. What are your goals for the rest of the year? Speaker 4 00:36:12 So the goals for the rest of the year are to at least, uh, get one song off the album ready to go. And we're gonna try to release it in October. Okay. Um, so, you know, we don't want to go too far into the, uh, you know, the holiday season cuz then music just gets buried. Yeah. Unless it's a holiday song. Yeah. And even then you get buried with all the other holiday craps out Speaker 0 00:36:34 There. Travis been Hall of Christmas song. Right. I'm just saying Ghost. What do you think? I'm just saying hey, why not? Speaker 4 00:36:39 Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll see. Maybe, maybe a little clip of Speaker 0 00:36:42 Something. No, I definitely wanna hear something October for Speaker 4 00:36:44 Sure. So, so October with our first single and then we'll probably wait until, um, January to kind of start releasing the actual record, uh, January and then March is when we wanna release the full record. Awesome. Um, so as far as like what's 2019 looking like? It's kind of just getting the team in place Okay. And ready for Yeah. And you know, the release and stuff cuz I mean obviously I know that Yeah. I mean I compare it to like a, a car engine. Like every piece of that car engine needs to be working in order for this car to move. And so we need to like, build the engine and make sure they're all working together Speaker 0 00:37:20 Well. I'd say you've got those main parts together and, and things are, the engine is starting to hum a little bit. It's not quite there yet. Right. But, but it's starting to go for, I think coming to Nashville was just what you, just what you need to do and Oh yeah. And congrats on everything. Thank you. Um, and dude, hope to see you if not here full time here pretty regularly. Cause I, I, I like what you do. I like the guys that you got as a part of that engine right now. Thank You're getting some good parts man. You're getting some good parts. You thank, you're navigating and finding them and uh, it seems like things are, are going really well now. We always wrap this thing up with, uh, our guest playing a tune for us. Sure. What would you like to play for us this Speaker 4 00:37:55 Afternoon? You know, I was actually thinking I'd play the song I wrote with Carly. Speaker 0 00:37:58 Okay, cool. Now what was the title on Speaker 4 00:37:59 That again? Mama's Eyes. Mama's Speaker 0 00:38:01 Eyes, eyes. What went into that song? Speaker 4 00:38:02 Uh, you know, it was, uh, she actually started writing it about her nephew. Um, and I think he had just turned like two or three years old or something like that. And I had a, I have a baby boy that is 10 months old now. Speaker 0 00:38:16 Oh, congratulations. Speaker 4 00:38:17 That's awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. And so, you know, I just wanted to write, um, just kind of a song about just the beauty of life and what it is and, and that kind of, it came out, you know, kind of written about just this little baby boy and so it, it was, it, it was a beautiful song. Speaker 0 00:38:33 Awesome. That's badass man. So where can people find you on, on the socials? Where can they, uh, connect? Speaker 4 00:38:39 Yeah, you can look it up on Travis Vanoff on my Instagram. Um, now Speaker 0 00:38:43 Is it v now is it v a, is it v a n or v o n? Speaker 4 00:38:46 It's v a n h o f F. Speaker 0 00:38:48 All right, awesome. Speaker 4 00:38:49 Find you. Yeah, come find me. That'd be great. That's probably the main sort that place that I'm most active is on the Instagram and stuff, so. Speaker 0 00:38:56 Awesome. You can follow his story of being in Nashville and, and yeah. Meet, meet the team and uh, and see all that stuff. Cuz this guy, I'm telling you guys, he's, he's got a lot going on and 2019 into 2020 and beyond. Uh, once that car is built, um, it's gonna be going pedaled in the metal. So definitely. Tyler, another, another one in the books buddy. Huh? Speaker 1 00:39:14 Yeah man. Speaker 0 00:39:14 Dude, this was a fun one, dude. Thank you. Speaker 4 00:39:16 Thanks for having me. Speaker 0 00:39:17 Thank you for short notice. Usually we have to schedule very far out, but I was like, you're, you guys are, are heading back to where you're heading to heading out west and we're not sure exactly when you're gonna be back. So very happy we were able to get this Speaker 4 00:39:27 Done, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. It was perfect timing. Awesome Speaker 0 00:39:29 Man. Well thank you so much guys, make sure you follow Travis on all the socials. Make sure you follow along with us too. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast. Throw a little review up there for us on Instagram. It's what Tyler? Speaker 1 00:39:41 Uh, in the round podcast. There Speaker 0 00:39:44 He is. I got him in the round podcast on Instagram. You can find us in the round on Facebook. So Speaker 1 00:39:48 You used to people saying like, official or music, like those two went through my head. Nobody's, and I was just like in the round official. No, Speaker 0 00:39:54 That's not it. No, nobody's trying, nobody's trying to be us yet. When there is, when there is, uh, when there are those imposters out there, maybe throw the official in there. But for right now it's just in the round podcast. You can also find content on YouTube, Facebook. We're hopefully gonna have a website soon-ish, hopefully. Um, and then, uh, Twitter's coming Speaker 1 00:40:10 Soon. Speaker 0 00:40:11 Twitter is coming soon. Are you on Twitter by the way? Twitter? Speaker 1 00:40:13 He I already found him. Speaker 0 00:40:14 Yeah. Okay. Yes, Tyler. Tyler is awesome. Tyler is a notorious, uh, Twitter troll. Speaker 1 00:40:20 I have like six or seven profiles at this point. That's awesome. And Speaker 0 00:40:23 They're all fake. They're all fake Twitter Speaker 1 00:40:24 That mine. Twitter's. I do have mine. Speaker 0 00:40:26 He has his own. But yeah, Speaker 1 00:40:27 That's, yeah, I actually got a block on one of 'em the other day. I, uh, I really went after Old Town Road, like hard Speaker 0 00:40:35 And he got blocked Speaker 1 00:40:36 And it was my third strike and I'm no longer allowed in that profile, so Speaker 4 00:40:39 That's hilarious. Speaker 0 00:40:41 So if you find certain Twitter trolls, um, yeah, one of 'em, I know Tyler just made one recently. That should be pretty easy for people to recognize. So if they wanna Yeah, if they go on there and find that. But also you can find just a wandering Tyler wandering, like he's moving, not wandering like he's thinking for the Southern accent. Sometimes he gets confused. <laugh>. Um, and then, uh, I'm at that bar at Coda Rocks or, uh, Koda Bear videographer and photographer. Shout out to the team here too. We got Gus and what was your name again, buddy? Zack. Zack. Zack. With that really nice Sony camera that he's got right there. These boys don't mess around now. Without further ado, I'm gonna shut up. Let Mr. Travis Vanoff take us away. It's Mama's Tears, right? Speaker 4 00:41:19 Mama's eyes. Speaker 0 00:41:20 Mama's eyes, mama's eyes. Tears can sometimes come outta the eyes, but here is mama's eyes. Travis Vanoff. Carly Rogers original. You've been listening to the In the Round podcast Speaker 3 00:41:39 Sevens 10 And your moms eyes that you got it from your grandma. That just uncle Yeah. You got.

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