Clayton Shay

Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is up everyone? Welcome back to the end the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler episode two of the quarantine sessions going on here in Nashville, Tennessee. What's up Speaker 2 00:00:24 Everybody? Speaker 1 00:00:24 It is, it is crazy. Um, so you got, yeah, you got Matt and Tyler here and, uh, we got a jar of Bucky's Bieber nuggets, milk chocolate covered. We got two bottles of still Speaker 2 00:00:33 Wearing our green Good as gold Bucky's shirts. Speaker 1 00:00:36 Yeah. And uh, and we've, we've got, uh, we've got some Kentucky bourbon here and we've got with us today, one of our good buddies, the guy that we've become really good friends with, uh, it's a boy Clayton Shea and he is all quarantined out where That's right. His Jack Daniel's bandana. Speaker 3 00:00:50 Man, dude, Speaker 1 00:00:52 What the fuck is going on right now? Speaker 3 00:00:53 He's craziness out there, bro. I'm telling you. Like, I haven't been to the stores since like all the craziness hit, but I went a week and a half ago. I was telling you Tyler, and I swear all of Vanderbilt was there. Yeah. Buying up TP cold medicine. They were limiting five to each person. And I was like, all right, this is gonna get worse. So I was just like, stop. Speaker 2 00:01:12 Well, here's the thing, like, this is the weird part is I was just, I just got back like at midnight from Houston, so like, you know, 13 hours off the plane, almost 14 right now. Yep. And like in Houston, of course, like the first like couple days like, yeah, it was huge. But me and my girlfriend had to go like the last two days I was there. So it was like Saturday and Sunday when you think it'd be like mega busy, but it wasn't. Yeah. Like we literally like didn't have to wait in line or anything. We got whatever we wanted. Now I will say it's kind of weird. Houston has some priorities, obviously. Yeah. Most of the stuff was gone. They hadn't like restocked yet, but the stuff that was there, all the stuff was, there was all the organic stuff. Speaker 3 00:02:01 Oh yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:02:03 So like, we tried to get back Speaker 3 00:02:04 Down here in Texas. Speaker 2 00:02:05 We tried to get mac and cheese, but it was only like the Annie's organic <laugh> and like all the like sauces were like organic sauces cuz we made pasta that night and all the pasta was organic pasta. Like it was all the organic shit that was left, man. And it was like, you know, during this time when we're in a like public health crisis, I think the organic stuff would be like what you want to buy. But Speaker 3 00:02:24 You go up to like the northwest like Seattle where all the hipsters are, all that organic shit's gone. I bet Speaker 1 00:02:29 Everything's gone. They're getting hit the hardest. Speaker 2 00:02:32 Also the only cheese, this was hilarious. The only cheese that was left was craft singles. Wow. Cause they just have a shit ton of 'em. Oh yeah. And Swiss cheese. Hmm. Swiss. Speaker 3 00:02:42 What do they got? What problem do they have with Swiss cheese? Don't Speaker 2 00:02:44 Know. I love Swiss cheese. Speaker 1 00:02:45 I've got too many holes in it. Dude. That's just it. This I like it. I like Speaker 2 00:02:49 It. This cheese ain't full cheese. This got holes in it, man. It's going to get the Corona in us. Oh Speaker 1 00:02:54 Man. Speaker 3 00:02:54 My hot damn. Some gun. Speaker 1 00:02:56 So. Well you're getting to you Clayton. Yeah. So you've been here in Nashville for how long? Speaker 3 00:03:01 Uh, coming up on what's today? What's the date today? It's almost exactly two years today. Um, Speaker 1 00:03:05 March 17th. Happy say how Speaker 3 00:03:06 Say month? So 11 days. It'll, it'll be two years for me. Oh, cue the Speaker 1 00:03:09 Bagpipes for Matt. Hell yeah, dude. Congratulations. Thank you. That's awesome man. And you're originally from Illinois. Speaker 3 00:03:15 That's right. Central Illinois. Yep. Speaker 1 00:03:16 Hell yeah. Now Illinois. What town? Speaker 3 00:03:19 Uh, you wouldn't know it's Canton is where I'm from, but it's Peoria area. It's like the biggest town near Speaker 1 00:03:24 Oh yeah. Peoria is cool. Yeah. Yeah, dude. So Illinois, a lot of people. We've, there's a lot of country coming outta Illinois and there's man, a lot of people think Illinois. Oh, Chicago. Oh, like this, that, but like there's, it, it gets pretty country up in Speaker 3 00:03:37 Illinois. Dude, you go an hour and a half south of Chicago, it's all corn fields. I mean, and, and yeah. And I love, I love my people back in Illinois, but there's nothing up there in Illinois so everyone wants to get out. It feel like what Speaker 1 00:03:49 You do have though is Casey's. That's Speaker 3 00:03:50 Right. Casey's pizza. Dude. Speaker 1 00:03:52 Casey's It's great. Breakfast. Speaker 3 00:03:54 Pizza. Oh my God, I love it. You dip it in the syrup. Oh, I Speaker 1 00:03:58 Forget. We haven't done that yet. Forget it. I haven haven't done the syrup, but dude, so, so, so you moved down here, I'm guessing you were doing the music thing up there in Illinois? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:04:05 So I'll give you like the quick kind of broken down story cuz it's the long story. So I was in a band up in Illinois for a while, the Clayton Shea Band. And we played clubs all over Illinois. I was in one particular house band there in Bloomington, or not school. And I opened for this band called Blackjack Billy. Oh hell yeah. And uh, and they were awesome. And I was talking with the guitar player afterwards and, and Angel Eyes by Love and theft, just playing over the, over the speakers and I singing it and he's like, you like that song? I was like, yeah, I love it. It's a great song. He's like, I wrote that. I was like, you're a liar, get outta here. And he's like, no, Google it. And so I Google it and sure enough he wrote it and I was like, dude, I'm so sorry. Speaker 3 00:04:44 So I hung out with him, kept in contact over the next couple years, came down to Nashville, had a beer with him here and there. And the time came when I was moving down and I hit him up. I was like, Hey dude, I'm moving down. Let's grab a beer. He's like, actually you hit me up at a really good time. Um, we need a bass player. I know you don't play bass. I was a front man at the time, couldn't sing harmonies, couldn't play bass. And he's like, we can get you there. So I had a basically a month and a half from the time I moved here till we were opening for Midland in, in Denver. And I had to learn how to play bass for a touring national act and sing harmonies. Geez. So yeah, needless to say, when that time came around, I was shaking in my boots. It was 3000 people out in Denver. And uh, I was not ready by any means, but we, we kind of, we made it work. So, um, and since then I've been, you know, playing with them. But, um, yeah, it's been, it's been a great experience playing with those guys. Um, learned a lot about the road life. We played Canada a lot. Um, we get some really big shows up there. Played, uh, boots and Hearts in Ontario two years ago to 20,000 people. I Speaker 1 00:05:45 Hear the Boots and hearts is like, like we got big festivals here in the States, but like, you go to Boots and Hearts, it's a, it's, it's another level of Speaker 3 00:05:52 Just, it's amazing, bro. It's like, uh, it's like what's the one here that we can compare it to? Country Thunder that goes around. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's like, it's like that for, Speaker 2 00:05:59 Was that up in, uh, Speaker 3 00:06:00 Wisconsin? Wisconsin? Yeah. They have a, they have a bunch of 'em all over, but Wisconsin's a really big one. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:04 So yeah, that's like where we originally, right. Speaker 3 00:06:06 Yep. Yeah. So yeah, man, it's, it's a lot of fun. But, uh, s getting back to my thing, I'm, I'm trying to put more eggs in different baskets. I'm trying to do the bass thing, the songwriter thing, the artist thing. So kind of where I'm shifting towards now is more of my own artistry too, so, yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:24 Okay. Hell yeah. Speaker 3 00:06:25 Dude. Been writing my ass off. I've written Yeah, a lot since I've been in town. So I, I think Speaker 2 00:06:29 Like, if anything that, like this quarantine and everything has shown us is like people that, you know, rely on our income from the road or from the bars or anything like that, it's like, hey, you really need to like, make yourself more diverse. Yep. Because a hundred percent, you know, if you're, if you're kind of putting all your eggs in one industry, like you're not making money right now, Speaker 3 00:06:50 Dude. And think about this too, this might be kind of like my, my far out thinking, but like, what if this is a glimpse at what the future of music is? What if it isn't live concerts out? And when there's thousands of people, what if it's the big names? Like the Kane Browns, the Keith Urbans, the Eric Churches, what if they're all in house live, live streaming And that's where your audience is. Like this could be that, that's what it could be moving towards too. You never know. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:07:13 Yeah, yeah. Exactly. You never know. And it's good to just be, be prepared and whatnot. So with your, with your artistry stuff going on right now, and you've played a bunch of our writers rounds and like, you're, you're a guy that we love going out and seeing in midtown or wherever you're playing with the writers rounds and whatnot. Thank you. Um, when, when exactly was that, was that shift made? I had no idea about the black Jack Billy stuff by the way. That's, that's pretty freaking dope. Cause I got to see those guys up in Jersey and they put on a show like y'all. Speaker 3 00:07:39 Yeah, dude, that's, that's our first of all on that note, that's, that's our biggest emphasis is trying to have more fun than the audience. You know, we try to bring so much energy that if we can try to have more fun than them, then it's gonna be contagious. Yeah. Not, not to, no pun intended <laugh>, but, uh, but yeah, so the, the artistry thing, um, I, I've always had that in my, in my sights. I I just didn't put a lot of emphasis on it when I first moved here cuz so much was placed on blackjack Billy. Yeah. I got placed in the back burner kind of. But, um, I'd say about, um, honestly February of last year was my first ride rider's round I ever played. Really? Yeah. A doghouse. Um, Chris Young was sitting there, I was like, dude, I was so nervous. Like I played in front, like I said, in front of 20,000 people, not even close to as nervous as I was for that writer's round. Well when Speaker 1 00:08:26 You're by yourself just playing your songs, Speaker 3 00:08:28 It's so vulnerable, man. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:08:29 No, it is a very vulnerable spot to be in. Speaker 3 00:08:32 Yep. So it's, and especially with like a bunch of other fellow writers there who are all really good at what they do and you're like putting your thing out there. It's like, here's something I made. Do y'all like it <laugh>? Like Yeah. Something about that. So vulnerable. Speaker 1 00:08:45 But yeah. Yeah. You're not playing to just normal consumers. You're playing to people. This is their shit. Yeah. This is what they do. Yep. Like they're, they're creators as well when it comes to, to music and whatnot Speaker 3 00:08:53 And it's, yeah. And it's not playing, you know, number one songs that, you know, everyone likes. No. Either. So. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:09:00 Not at all, dude. No, and it's a real grind, especially doing, doing it independently right now. Like there's a, there's a grind to it and whatnot, man. But, but yeah man, it's just crazy times right now that we're all, we're all kinda living in dude. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:09:13 Dude. And it, yeah. It's, you know, there's a lot of people out there that are conspiracy theorists and that take this thing we're talking about the Corona fire now. Yeah. They take this thing way too far. But like I was telling y'all before we started, there's a certain level of responsibility that every person has right now because it is a serious thing. Not necessarily for us at the age we're at, but people 60 plus. Yeah. Those people are in danger for sure. So absolutely everyone needs to do their part to, to help kill this thing and just put an end into it so we can go back to our lives. Speaker 1 00:09:43 Yeah, dude. And to think and, and the span of two weeks Foran tornado comes man, mess the shit up in town. I Speaker 3 00:09:50 Got Poison Ivy. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:09:52 You got Poison Speaker 3 00:09:53 <laugh>. I didn't tell y'all about that. I got really, I got sleeves on Speaker 1 00:09:55 The hell that, how the hell did that happen? Speaker 3 00:09:57 Well, from helping out with a tornado, um, I didn't get it nearly as bad as my buddy did. Who, who was with me. But we were like moving big ass logs and trees Yeah. Out east, Speaker 1 00:10:05 Right? Speaker 3 00:10:06 Yeah. I was up in Mount Juliet, um, Speaker 1 00:10:08 Oh geez. What was it like out there when I didn't make it out to Mount Juliet? Speaker 3 00:10:11 Just dude, the, the area I went in, honestly, like, I didn't see any houses hit. I just saw trees everywhere. Like, I don't know how the trees missed the houses, but like this dude's backyard, if you can imagine your backyard just stacked with trees. Yeah. Full, full ass trees, man. And we were just sitting there with chainsaws, sawing, carrying, sawing, carrying, sawing, carrying. Speaker 2 00:10:31 So, uh, I'm from like the Gulf Coast area, so we had like Hurricane I, oh I, we had Hurricane Ivan and uh, we stayed at uncle's house, a great uncle's house of ours and he had like, I dunno, probably a thousand trees in his backyard of pine trees. Yeah. Pine trees. And uh, you know, pine trees aren't like, their roots don't grow very deep. They're Yeah, they're very like, they can get twisted and Yep. Honestly, like if the wind blows when they're growing like hard you can actually tell the ones that went through like a hurricane or a tornado or something that survived cuz they bend. Yeah. They actually like bend in their way they grow and stuff. Oh, that's cool Speaker 3 00:11:04 Man. Speaker 2 00:11:05 But yeah, um, I think there was like two trees standing after. Yeah. And like there was a old oak tree that like, I think it was my like, great great aunt or an uncle like put in their yard that like, you know, it fell during it was over a hundred years old. Like, you know, it's Speaker 1 00:11:21 Crazy with these storms can do. Yeah. And that was, this was my first time seeing a tornado. Yeah. I'd never seen a tornado like that. I know in Illinois. Y'all, y'all got it. Cause I was talking with Garrett, who's a good mutual friend of ours and I was calling him like, bro, like you, you're used to this shit, what do I do? He is like, oh man, just hunker down. Like, just be ready. Speaker 3 00:11:36 That's the thing, man. Like it, if it decides to hit where you're at, there's not a lot you can do. No. Like you can get as safe as you can get in, you know, your tub or something. But like there, I went to Donaldson the next day and there was total neighbor whole neighborhoods just leveled. Speaker 1 00:11:51 Yeah. Which is crazy. Speaker 3 00:11:53 Like, I'm talking like, there's a, what is it, Donaldson Christian Academy DCA over there. Yeah, yeah, dude. That's the area I was in. And I was about three football fields away helping carry shit. And I saw a gymnasium door handle, like the, the push door handles, dude, there was, and this yard 300 yards Speaker 2 00:12:09 Away, there was papers, like files of like attendance found all the way out in like East Tennessee past Knoxville. Speaker 3 00:12:16 Like, God, that's so wild, man. Yeah. Just Speaker 1 00:12:17 The, just the fact that it, that how, how crazy these storms and stuff get, dude, it's, it just got Speaker 2 00:12:21 Sucked up and like carried. Speaker 1 00:12:22 Yeah. It's wild. But, but what I'm, what I'm, what I'm impressed with though, after seeing that how everybody comes together dude and helps unreal and like the community of, of people coming from all over, people from coming, people coming from counties away. Yeah. Yeah. To come out and help out and people that are big, like emergency services and like relief people that do this for a living where they go and help out with natural disasters being like Nashville has their shit together. Like the fact that everybody's out there with those chainsaws, everybody well Speaker 3 00:12:48 There getting after it. A lot of the people here in Nashville are small town guys. You know, like Garrett and I like you mentioned and that's the small town mentality is when your neighbor needs your help, you help your neighbor. Exactly. So you take Nashville, it's just my my opinion, a conglomeration of just a bunch of small town people smashed into a city. It's Speaker 2 00:13:06 The biggest small town in America. Yep. Speaker 1 00:13:08 Yeah, no, it really is. So Speaker 3 00:13:09 I, I guess my, I can't speak for the people coming in from outside, but they probably just see the response from within and they're like, oh, that's pretty cool. I wanna get involved. So that's probably what Speaker 2 00:13:17 Happened. Yeah. That's also something that's contagious, you know? Yeah. Like whether it's for the right reason or not. Like, you know, if me and you are helping out and Matt knows that we are like, Matt's probably gonna go help out. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:13:28 A hundred percent. You Speaker 1 00:13:29 Know. Yeah. And there were a lot of, lot of groups of buddies that were out there and stuff. So 2020 is off to a hell of a start, Speaker 3 00:13:34 Huh? Man. It is. It's testing me already, bro. Speaker 1 00:13:37 Yeah. So, so rewind now go back to 2019. Yeah, yeah. What was that year like for you as a writer doing the bass thing going into the artist thing? Speaker 3 00:13:45 That was a lot of self discovery honestly. Cause I didn't know what I was doing. I still don't, I mean, we're all still kind of figuring out what we're doing. So 2019, uh, 2018 was pretty tour heavy with Black shark. Billy, I'm, I'm gonna be straight up like, our touring is not close to as heavy as it used to be back in the day. Probably when you saw him. It's not even close to his as heavy. So we're just playing the shows that are fun, the shows that are bigger, you know, the ones that are lucrative, kind of the ones that we have fun doing. Ones the ones Speaker 1 00:14:11 That are worth it. Speaker 3 00:14:12 Yeah. Yeah. So, so 2019 is a little slower than 2018. 2020 is a little slower. Um, I'm gonna do that thing. I'm gonna do black check Billy. As long as they'll have me. As long as we're touring Speaker 1 00:14:22 Tho Those are good fucking dudes, Speaker 3 00:14:23 Man. They're awesome. I love those dudes. Like brothers. We have fun. We get along on the road. That's major in itself. Yes. Oh, you Speaker 1 00:14:29 Guys know. Oh yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:14:31 So I'm gonna do those shows as long as they pan out. Um, I hope they never end, but everything comes to an end at some point. Yeah. So I'm just, like I said, putting my eggs in lots of baskets. So 2019 as you asked, was a learning thing for me cuz I had just moved here 2018, um, toured all through the summer into the fall, fall hit. And I didn't know what the dead season was. I didn't know that existed. So that hit and I was like, whoa, what's happening here? No tourists, no money. Like, so I had to learn that. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:15:00 That's, that's a rough time Speaker 3 00:15:01 Here. So 2019, I was going in like guns blazing, like, all right, we're gonna do this different. So 2020 still learning. Um, I'm writing a lot, getting better rights, getting better songs. So yeah, I'm excited for the future. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:15:16 Dude. It's just, it's just the grind. Yeah. And that's what this town is the town of hustlers. That's right. It's the town of people. Like if you're not out there grinding, it ain't gonna happen. Like you gotta, it's Speaker 2 00:15:24 Kind of weird right now to see like a town of hustlers. Like, it's gonna be weird to see in like a week or two, like what comes out of this town when everything closed, Speaker 3 00:15:32 You're closed. You're going to learn who the hustlers are right now more than ever. Yeah, I'm sure of it because all of us musicians aren't making anything. We, no, we have to have shows to make money, you know, so the live shows, that was one of the first things I thought of was like, we gotta start doing live shows and hoping, you know, in times like this, people probably aren't gonna be super generous with their money. They're not gonna be like, Ooh, let me throw this musician a hundred bucks. You Speaker 2 00:15:55 Know? Yeah. For real. Speaker 3 00:15:56 But you gotta do something. And it's exposure. Everyone's on social media right now. Everyone's hunkered down. So it's like why not do it? Even if you don't make any money, you're gonna be making more money than you would've if you did nothing. So. Exactly. Yeah. I'm gonna be, I, I got, I don't know if you know up Star music. Oh yeah, sure. Speaker 1 00:16:12 We Speaker 3 00:16:12 Got shout out up Star. Um, I'm gonna be doing one there. Speaker 1 00:16:15 Old Shoemaker. Yeah. Those are our boys up there. We love those guys, Speaker 3 00:16:18 Man. He's doing some great stuff man. He really Speaker 1 00:16:20 Is man. And for him to be doing it from where he's doing it up in upstate New York and Yeah. Not even getting, I mean the fact that the Groundwork's being laid down here in Nashville right now and you're seeing up star hats up Star Stakers. Yep. People are really getting on with the program. It's really cool. And I'm, I'm proud of that guy and proud to call my Speaker 3 00:16:35 Buddy a hundred percent man. Speaker 1 00:16:37 So what were you saying, dude? You're gonna be doing one of those shows? Speaker 3 00:16:38 I was just, yeah. I'm gonna be doing, uh, one of the, I forget what my slot is now, but uh, here I can pull it up. But he's doing this like series of like the up star couch concert series thing. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:16:48 I saw that. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:16:49 I think, uh, mine is, I'm pulling it up here and there's Speaker 1 00:16:52 A lot of you guys and girls that are doing that. Oh yeah. That are, that are in our, our friend group and like six's 40 Speaker 3 00:16:57 One's doing it. Garrett's doing it. You know, there's a bunch of people. Um, the 25th, so next Wednesday at 9:00 PM I'll be doing mine, so. Oh yes. Speaker 2 00:17:04 That's awesome. Speaker 3 00:17:05 And I'm gonna be doing other ones myself too, just on my own. But you know, I'm just trying to fill my time up so that I, like I was telling you outside, like, so I don't look back on this period of quarantine as well. I just sat on the couch and played a thousand hours of Call of Duty. Like, cuz that's what I've been doing so far. Speaker 1 00:17:21 Yeah, that's what, that's what everybody's been Speaker 2 00:17:23 Doing. It was great for me. The B game came out today <laugh>. So like, I'm like, I was already like, dang because I was in Texas till last night. We were supposed to be leaving on the road today. So like I was sitting there was like, dang, I'm gonna be like a week behind everybody on this game. Speaker 3 00:17:36 <laugh>. Yeah man. I've been, I'm not gonna lie, I've been playing a lot of Call of Duty. There's been a lot. My sleep schedules is totally messed up. Speaker 1 00:17:42 I just downloaded it last night. It took 20 something hours for me. I Speaker 2 00:17:45 Believe that. I just downloaded it this morning. Speaker 3 00:17:47 <laugh>. It's so much fun, man. You guys are gonna gonna love it. Speaker 1 00:17:49 Oh dude, I'm excited. Cuz that's what Ethan and Koda like, I'll be, and Speaker 2 00:17:53 It's cross platform. So like we can all Yeah. Speaker 3 00:17:55 Yep. Speaker 2 00:17:55 Cause me and Matt are PlayStation guys cause of the baseball games. Same. Same. Speaker 3 00:17:58 Yeah. I mean, not cuz of baseball, but just, I like PlayStation Speaker 2 00:18:00 Guys. Well also like all the, you know the ones that are just PlayStation, like the, uh, did you ever play Days Gone? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Dude, that's a hell of a game. It's like a zombie game. Speaker 1 00:18:11 Yeah. I like the PlayStation controller better. Me too. I just do. And I grew up, I had a PS two before I had an Xbox 360. Speaker 2 00:18:17 See I had an Xbox, I had an original Xbox and then I had an Xbox 360 along with like a Game Cube. And then like I finally got a PlayStation two and then I got a PlayStation three along with my 360 also. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But like, I was, I grew up like a Nintendo actually Nintendo was like my thing, my first thing was a 64. Oh yeah, dude. Speaker 3 00:18:37 And Speaker 2 00:18:38 Oh Speaker 1 00:18:38 Dude, throwing it back a little bit. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:39 Yeah, dude. Like a 64. Like, you know, I'm not sure how old you are, but No. Yeah, I, I remember when those things came out. Like they were all the raging, like Speaker 1 00:18:48 IED did. My first system was the Game Cube. That was the first one I got introduced to. So was playing like Monkey Ball and like fucking Luigi's man. Super Mario, super Sunshine or whatever. It was like, I was Speaker 2 00:18:59 Like on the like golden 9 0 0 7. Speaker 3 00:19:01 That's, that's my shit. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:19:03 Dude. And like the, uh, Mario Car 64. The original. Yep. Smash Bros. Oh yeah, dude. Like, dude, all that kind of stuff. 64 Speaker 3 00:19:12 Is the Speaker 2 00:19:12 Best. Before even that, I had a Game Boy, uh, pocket, which was before the Game Boy Colors. He was Speaker 3 00:19:17 One of the fancy guys. What the Speaker 1 00:19:18 Hell is the Game Boy Pocket? So Speaker 2 00:19:20 The Game Boy pocket was the first. So the, you know, the Speaker 1 00:19:22 How big, how big was it compared to like this, this Speaker 2 00:19:24 IPhone? It was like the size of your phone. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:19:25 You holy shit. I did Speaker 2 00:19:27 Maybe a little bit wider and a little bit thicker, but it was the first like truly like, cause the game was bigger. Yeah. Like this was supposed to be able to fit just in your pocket and be able to go. And it was the first one that could like, do that. Yeah. And so, like, I grew up like, you know, obviously like Pokemon, Pokemon Speaker 3 00:19:41 Thing was baby. Oh yeah. Dude. What Speaker 1 00:19:43 Was you on, what was your first, what was your first Pokemon game? Tyler? Speaker 2 00:19:47 Uh, yellow. Speaker 1 00:19:48 What would your be Speaker 3 00:19:50 The cards, man. Like the cards. Speaker 1 00:19:51 Oh, so you were big in the cards? Speaker 2 00:19:53 I was big in the cards too. I didn't Speaker 3 00:19:54 Actually know what I was doing with him. I just wanted them. I liked it as many as I could, man. Speaker 2 00:19:58 Yeah, dude, I used to like compete with that stuff. And I remember Oh, you Speaker 1 00:20:00 Were a card gamer? Oh Speaker 2 00:20:01 Yeah dude, I loved it. I loved Pokemon. Cause my parents would never let me get into like, uh, Yu Guo because they thought it was like the devil band, demonic Speaker 3 00:20:08 Band. Oh. Oh. Speaker 1 00:20:09 Cause of like Exodus and like this. See I was, I was Yu Guo. I never got into Pokemon. Yeah. I love Yu Speaker 2 00:20:13 Collected. I watched Yu all the time, like behind my parents' back. You, Speaker 3 00:20:18 You. Speaker 2 00:20:18 But like, my parents would never let me collect the cards. Like I bought one deck and my grandma saw it and she like tried to perform an exorcist. Speaker 1 00:20:25 I'm just the power of Christ. Compelled. You stole that. Compelled. And I, and I and I and I love your mother, Theresa. Everybody over there, but I, I just pictured the, the scene in the water boy where it's like, this is Avic Battle course. She the devil. Oh, that's pretty much it. Caught. That's the devil. That's the devil. Like I just pretty much Speaker 2 00:20:41 It, but no, uh, so like Pokemon was my thing. But like, I remember I was on a school field trip one time and I threw away my, like had like a bag lunch and I threw away my bag lunch and I accidentally threw away like a championship winning deck. No. And that's when I got out. Speaker 3 00:20:57 Yeah. A good, Speaker 2 00:20:59 It was still like eighth or ninth. Well, nah, that's Speaker 3 00:21:01 A good reason though. It was Speaker 2 00:21:02 Like sixth or seventh grade. Yeah. Seventh or eighth. Like somewhere in there. So like, it was still like, I was little bit older. Like I was still like going down and competing. Yeah. Game Man. Speaker 1 00:21:11 Game Boy Pocket I didn't know existed. I got into it. Speaker 2 00:21:14 It was before the Game Boy Color. Speaker 1 00:21:15 I got into it with the Game Boy. Advance The Game Boy. Advance was, my first had Speaker 3 00:21:19 Was three Millennial Speaker 2 00:21:21 Young Buck. Speaker 1 00:21:22 How old? How old are Speaker 3 00:21:23 You? I'm younger than both y'all. I'm, I'm gonna be 27 this year. July. Okay. Speaker 2 00:21:27 I'm Speaker 1 00:21:27 27. I just, yeah. And I, and I just turned 25. Oh Speaker 3 00:21:30 Really? He's the youngest Speaker 1 00:21:31 Too. That's why I'm saying that's why I date myself. I'm, I'm the little baby in the grand scene. You are Game Boy or um, game Cube is my first system Speaker 2 00:21:40 Too. Speaker 3 00:21:40 What happen? Game Cube? Speaker 1 00:21:42 I don't know. We still have one I think. Do you really? We Speaker 2 00:21:44 Still have one. I love Game Cube. I actually, out of that whole generation consoles, my favorite games was on GameCube. Speaker 3 00:21:50 I didn't even really like the games. I just liked the idea of the Game Cube itself more than anything. I was like, that thing is cool man. Speaker 1 00:21:55 Could you, could you imagine Smash Online? Like that Smash bro. Like Smash Bro online. You Speaker 2 00:22:01 Gotta get all that shit. Speaker 3 00:22:02 Patenting it right there, Speaker 1 00:22:03 Dude. That's what we, that's what'd be, that's what I'd be doing. We're taking Speaker 2 00:22:06 Thedo on this. They're here. This one. Speaker 3 00:22:08 We're we're, they need to. Alright. Speaker 2 00:22:09 That's our hustle for this one. I Speaker 3 00:22:11 Got like a battle royale. Just drop 'em all in like 150 of 'em. Just, just do Speaker 2 00:22:14 It. Just, Speaker 1 00:22:17 You get, you get kby, you get the little penguin guy that's got the mallet and shit. What was Speaker 2 00:22:22 Your, what was your character? Speaker 3 00:22:23 My character dude. I loved Bowser a lot. Okay. Speaker 2 00:22:26 Okay. Speaker 1 00:22:26 You were a Bowser guy. Yeah. What Speaker 2 00:22:27 Was yours, Matt? Speaker 1 00:22:29 Honestly, I used to fuck around with some Kirby and I used to just fucking eat shit. Yeah, yeah, Speaker 2 00:22:33 Yeah. Dude. I was always like, uh, link. Okay. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:22:37 Which one is that? Speaker 2 00:22:38 Link's like the smaller Zelda Speaker 3 00:22:40 Guy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's Speaker 2 00:22:41 The guy. So he's got the sword. He's got a sword, but he's quick. Yeah. So like, Zelda is like a little bit like slower and like more majestic and all. Bower Speaker 3 00:22:49 Bower's the tortoise guy. Right. He just fucking kills everything. He's why I like him. Cause he just looks scary. And then like, this is intimidating. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm smashing buttons anyways, so. Yeah. You gotta look intimidating. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:23:00 Not in college, dude. There's guys that they would like play for hours and they were like, I wouldn't even touch a controller around them. Dude. I, we, we had to Speaker 1 00:23:06 That man, we had a tournament at my college. They gave away like two 50 bucks. Speaker 3 00:23:10 Did you get in on it? I lost, I Speaker 1 00:23:12 Was out first round. I, I, I didn't stand the damn chance. Speaker 2 00:23:15 See I like, for the first two round, we had like a one that was like over a hundred people and for the first two rounds, like I drew some people that weren't good. Oh boy. And so like, I made like the third round and then I faced like the guy that won it all. And like, I don't even think I got like, more than like three hits on him. Yeah. He just like destroyed. Speaker 3 00:23:32 That's the thing. I don't understand like Call of Duty. I know how to get good at that, but I don't know how to get good at Speaker 2 00:23:38 It is all just quick button mashing and like, knowing combinations. Speaker 3 00:23:41 That's, yeah. See that's my thing is that's all I do is just smash those buttons, man. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:23:46 And see Speaker 3 00:23:46 I'm more no rhyme reason Speaker 2 00:23:47 Even like own boxing games and stuff. Like we have UFC in there and stuff. Yeah. Like, there's like guys like, like that's how I, I guess I get beat because I'm like, I'm a bigger guy and like, you know, my whole thing is like, I'd rather hit you with more powerful stuff and knock you out than hit you. Like all these like quick jabs and stuff like that. So like a boxer and a fighter. Like I'd rather like just, you know, deliver a knockout punch than like heat. You like all these Body socks tire. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:24:15 Dude, you're playing real world logic to a video game. I like it. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, dude. Speaker 1 00:24:18 I mean, the gaming in here gets crazy because at night, like I'm, again, I just downloaded the call duty stuff. Um, I've, I got the PS4 in my room, but I mostly use it for like Netflix. Sure, sure. All that shit. But it'll be like two in the morning, I'll, I'll wake up and, or I'll, I'll go like, I'll, I'll just open my eyes or I'll wake up in the middle of the night and all of a sudden they hear Ethan just screaming in the living room. And then Dakota's room's right next to mine and he's screaming and they'll play with each other. Or what they'll do is they'll have like a land set up or whatever. They'll get like three or four damn TVs in our living room. Yeah. And they'll just be fucking playing. Speaker 3 00:24:49 All my boy Taylor's doing that right now. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:24:52 Just saw that. That's exact They play with Taylor and John and all of those Speaker 3 00:24:56 Guys. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:24:57 The most lit video game though of all time between me and my roommate here we go in college, fifa. Speaker 3 00:25:04 We were a big Fi guys. I never got on the fifa. Speaker 2 00:25:06 Everyone loved it. FIFA because like, I mean, it's kind of like chill. But I wasn't a chill guy. I got Speaker 3 00:25:11 The chill. I did. Speaker 2 00:25:12 So like fifa, dude, it is just like, you got your teams and you're going at it. Yeah. And like, there's like, we would turn rules off sometimes like slide blocking. So like you're, you know, Speaker 3 00:25:21 You could more Speaker 2 00:25:21 Interrupt people and stuff like that. Like, it's like definitely like a more like back and forth Speaker 3 00:25:25 Thing. Street soccer. Speaker 2 00:25:26 But like me and my roommate in college, we'd go to the game room. We actually got kicked out a few times for like being too loud. Cause there was just imagine two like minions having a fight. I can Speaker 3 00:25:35 Imagine. There we Speaker 2 00:25:36 Weren't even speaking English. We were just like, and he, Speaker 1 00:25:39 And he went for reco where like, you're not allowed to do a whole lot. It's very, very to the book with the Bible and all that stuff. So Speaker 2 00:25:44 I mean like video games and all like, you know, they're, they're one of the more liberal Christian universities I would say. But like, still like, you know, like, it'd be like 10 o'clock at night and me in my roommate, I just like, just like yelling at each other. Just like not speaking, just like, Speaker 3 00:26:00 And just, oh yeah. Oh yeah. I know, I know all about that man. I get fired up when I play. But Speaker 2 00:26:05 That stuff got lit. Speaker 1 00:26:06 Jeez. Speaker 2 00:26:07 Dude. Speaker 3 00:26:08 I just wanna point out this picture behind you, Matt. Oh yeah. Okay. That I happened. I happen to love that picture. I know the story. You do know Speaker 1 00:26:14 The story. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:26:14 But feel free to tell anyone that you want to, but, oh, it's been Speaker 2 00:26:17 Told a a hundred times on this podcast. Speaker 1 00:26:18 Were you, were you um, at Live Oak for when we did the Boudreaux Birthday Bash? Speaker 3 00:26:23 No, but I did. You were you I heard that people thought it was like a, like a visitation service, right? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:26:28 So we, so we were, we were trying to get the picture to really make it like a visitation makes Speaker 2 00:26:33 Visitation Speaker 3 00:26:34 Service it looks like when it's kind of frightening a little bit. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:26:36 The picture just fucking stands there. And he was hammered one that was taken fucking Oh, I was Mexico will do that to you. I love that. Speaker 2 00:26:43 I was probably like 15 rounds of Scotching. Speaker 3 00:26:45 My favorite part about it is that you cannot tell that unless you tell me that you were hammered. You look like you're taking a senior portrait and it looks like you're totally sober. Speaker 1 00:26:53 What's his Braves hat? His little mustache just hanging out. Speaker 3 00:26:56 You look like Carlos. It looks, that's what your should name, name should be like. Oh, this Speaker 2 00:27:00 Funny. Last night Speaker 1 00:27:00 Carlito Speaker 2 00:27:01 Been, but last night we literally had a dude that looked like Pedro from Napoleon died. Mite. Like Speaker 3 00:27:07 That's amazing. Porting Speaker 2 00:27:08 Our plane. Like talking to us <laugh>. I took a snapshot. I was like, what's Pedro working in the airport now? Speaker 1 00:27:13 That's, that's awesome. But yeah, for, for Tyler's birthday we got wild, especially, um, co uh, co wetzel and his crew were in town. Oh yeah. Speaker 3 00:27:21 Nice Speaker 1 00:27:21 Job. And they, they pop, they pop by Live Oak and they found out it was Tyler's birthday and we're good buddies with all those guys. And they heard it was Tyler's, but they got to the point where you could go to the bartenders at Live Oak and just tell him you're buying a drink for Tyler. And they knew exactly what to give you. Speaker 3 00:27:33 That's a good place to be in. Man. I like that. Speaker 1 00:27:35 He was drinking like he was Speaker 2 00:27:36 Uh, knob Creek. You're hunter proof. There you go. Speaker 1 00:27:38 He was just drinking glasses of Speaker 3 00:27:39 Scot. Speaking of whiskey, I really wanna try that one man. You wanna try it? Yeah. How can I go about, there's Speaker 2 00:27:44 A, there's a glass in there. Oh, lemme Speaker 1 00:27:45 There we get it. You guys keep talking. Tell him me about the, tell about Speaker 2 00:27:47 The bourbon. This is Willett. So Willett was, it's actually a family whiskey. Um, Speaker 3 00:27:52 Is that family? No, Speaker 2 00:27:54 But it's, uh, this is the pot steel reserve. So they still make this in a pot still. Like you would back in like the old days or Wow. How like Moon Steiners do it. Speaker 3 00:28:01 I love that. Speaker 2 00:28:02 So, uh, it's funny cause the last one we were talking about bourbon a lot too. Speaker 3 00:28:06 Just a nip. Just a little nip. Just Speaker 2 00:28:08 A little bit. Speaker 3 00:28:08 All right. I mean you can gimme a nice little one ounce pour. So let me see here. Keep it going. Keep it going. Ah, that'll be good. I gotta go to the gym after this so I can't be like Yeah. Belligerent. So Speaker 2 00:28:19 I'll I'll join you in this quest. Cool Speaker 3 00:28:21 Man. I like it. I get the Jack Daniels glass matching my Jack Jack Daniels bandana keeping everyone safe in the Corona. Speaker 2 00:28:28 Okay. So yeah, basically, uh, this is a new bottle for me, but they came over from England and they were, um, I, I read the label earlier and like figured out their whole family history basically from it. But yeah, it's like a family thing that they do. And, uh, it's passed down for generation to generation. They started in London, they came over here and they started, uh, making bourbon in Kentucky. So, you know, if you would've been part of my birthday after a long time at Red Door that I thought was 20 minutes <laugh>, but apparently it was like an hour and a half. Anyways, if you would've, uh, if you done saw me at, uh, where were we at Dogwood? Mm. You would've saw my Ted talk on how bourbons made and what the differences are was Speaker 1 00:29:11 Ethan was sitting in the, the chair at Dogwood. The um, the Richard chair. The the dick chair that's over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was just sitting there hanging out and Tyler pulled up a chair and was just telling un unwarranted or anything. Ethan wasn't even asking about it. Tyler went on a 20, well I'd already given Speaker 2 00:29:26 This to the whole bar, so I figured that they weren't there. So they had to know Speaker 1 00:29:30 He was walking around the bar just telling people about bourbon and That's amazing. Pointing at bottles that were behind the bar life. Speaker 3 00:29:35 Honestly. Drunk dude. Cuz I, dude, I feel like he'd become a different person. I love that Speaker 1 00:29:38 Dude. He hopped. Did you hear the story about the road case? Speaker 2 00:29:41 Uh, we can tell this off Mike. He Speaker 3 00:29:42 Showed me the, I think he Speaker 1 00:29:43 Showed me the video I showed you, I think showed you, Speaker 2 00:29:45 We could tell this one off Mike. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:29:46 He wanted something. He is. He got over the fence. He got, he got what he wanted. He got it and then he got it to the storage. I was Speaker 2 00:29:52 Black out at that point. Speaker 3 00:29:53 I couldn't tell you. He seemed agile. He seemed like you were like Jason born hopping that fence. Speaker 1 00:29:59 Dude, I don't know how the hell he made it over. Cause I don't know how I would've made it over. And I was sober and I don't know how the hell I made. Listen, Speaker 2 00:30:04 There's a, there's Speaker 3 00:30:05 Like is like perfectly tall enough to like Speaker 2 00:30:07 Yeah, I know. Dude. There's a part of me that if you tell me to do something and then get me really drunk. Yeah. Like I'm a perfectionist already. Like I've always like want to do that. Yeah. Like be perfect and everything. So like, if you get me drunk and then tell me to do something, there's a part of me that will go to the ends of the earth. Speaker 1 00:30:27 The, the, the saying of last year's birthday, mama didn't raise no bitch. That's was Tyler saying we were at the Wild Beaver in 2019. That, that's right. It was wild. Wild dude. Speaking of Mama didn't raise though, boy. Speaker 3 00:30:39 Gary. Speaker 1 00:30:40 Cheers. I I got my water cheer. You go stay hydrated. There you go. Wonder hear what you think about that, that whiskey as well. Speaker 3 00:30:49 Did I smooth? I like that Speaker 2 00:30:50 A lot. Yeah, I like that a lot too. Speaker 1 00:30:51 Boudreau's always good for some bourbon sounds. No. Speaker 3 00:30:53 Is that like, oh, sorry, I paused real quick. Is that like a really expensive bottle? Speaker 2 00:30:57 Uh, I think it was like 45, 50 bucks. Oh, that's Speaker 3 00:30:59 Not bad at all. No. Speaker 1 00:31:00 Tell the story of that one. Speaker 2 00:31:01 So this one is, uh, Speaker 1 00:31:02 That's autographed by the guy that made it. Speaker 2 00:31:04 Yeah. So this is the master distiller Jimmy Russell. He's like been in the business for 60 years as a master distiller. Like him and his brother are like the like faces of wild Turkey. So this is like wild turkey's, like single barrel, like high. Like this is like, so Speaker 3 00:31:17 That is an expensive bottle. It's Speaker 2 00:31:18 Like $89 bottle. Oh wow. Yeah. So, and then once you add the signature on it, it's like Speaker 3 00:31:24 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:31:24 Worth, worth some good money. Sure. Yeah. I thought Speaker 3 00:31:27 You were like curling your mustache there. I was like, oh, Speaker 2 00:31:29 I'm getting outta my mouth. Speaker 3 00:31:30 Yeah. I thought you were like, it's like fancy, like we curl our mustaches. It's Speaker 2 00:31:33 Not that long yet, you know, Speaker 3 00:31:34 <laugh>? No, dude. I, I always tell people like, I can't tell the difference between like house whiskey and like top shelf stuff. But honestly if you like that it was so smooth, I could just, I could Yeah. Easily tell the difference. Speaker 2 00:31:46 Bourbon also like, because of how it's aged and like it has to sit for like four years. Sure. And like, there's like so much criteria on it. I feel like a lot of bourbon, like especially the higher end stuff you can tell because it's just, it goes down smoother. Oh yeah. You know, like, I can tell, I can obviously tell a difference between like Jack and like, you know, $10 whiskey. Speaker 3 00:32:10 Yeah. I don't know. After I have like two or three of them that kind of just starts going down real easy. So that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if I'm just sitting around sipping on like some neat whiskey, then I can definitely tell a difference. For Speaker 2 00:32:20 Sure. You know what I'm a snob about? Vodka. Speaker 3 00:32:23 Vodka. Really? Vodka that. See that one is one. I'm very confident to myself. It, it all tastes like rubbing alcohol. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:32:30 That, yeah. I, I haven't had a drink in like three years, so, uh, with alcohol, yeah. I think I got sober, bro. I was going through not a bottle of this. I couldn't afford a bottle of that. I was drinking actually had crystal's Speaker 3 00:32:40 Palace vodka. Speaker 1 00:32:41 No, I wasn't drinking vodka. I was drinking, I was drinking whiskey. Very old. I used to drink fighting cock 106 Speaker 3 00:32:47 Proof. Oh, what a name for a, Speaker 1 00:32:49 It was like, it was like a poor man's fireball. You can get a liter of it for like $14 up in New Jersey. And I used to go through like a bottle of that like every day or every other day. That Speaker 3 00:32:59 Probably just monster gut out. Speaker 1 00:33:00 Oh dude. It was bad. It was like, it was, it was a poor man's fireball, but a lot stronger. And it, it hit Speaker 2 00:33:06 What it is. There's like, there's one that I've found a few times that's like for a handle as like 10 99. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:13 Man. Like you're talking like Crystal Palace, like the plastic bottles? No, Speaker 2 00:33:16 No, it is glass bottle. Oh Speaker 3 00:33:18 Wow. So the bottle probably cost $5 and then like vodka Speaker 2 00:33:22 Costs, I wanna say it's like, it's, it's not very old. Is it Georgie? No, it's not. It's like very old Blanton's. It's like, kind of like that name, but it's like a knockoff of old, old, old grandpa, basically. But like, Speaker 3 00:33:31 What is I don't, I've never even heard of that. That just sounds Speaker 2 00:33:34 Bad. Old grandpa is like, it's a Speaker 1 00:33:36 Old granddad. Old Speaker 2 00:33:37 Granddad. Okay. Old granddad's. Like an old like bourbon that's now been bought and they're reviving that label. Guys, you Speaker 1 00:33:44 Can go into like a sketchy liquor store, probably like the one that's down the street here. And you could get like a little fifth of it for like six bucks. No, not Speaker 2 00:33:50 Fifth Granddad anymore. Really old granddad's like 20 bucks now. Oh really? Cool. Speaker 1 00:33:53 Yeah. Yeah. Damn, damn. Hipsters making hip's, Speaker 2 00:33:56 Jim. Well, it's Jim Beans bought label now. So they're actually making it good again. But like, it's like old Blanton's or something like that. It's like old Barton's. That's what It's old Barton Speaker 3 00:34:05 Barton's. Speaker 2 00:34:06 God dude. Like, it's like a handles like 10 99 dude. And you cannot, if you put drop of that in a glass of Coke, it doesn't matter how big it is, you'll taste the nastiness of that liquor. Speaker 3 00:34:17 Yeah, man. I remember back in high school drinking like plastic vodka bottles and like the stuff that you feel like after you drink it, you're gonna go blind from it. Like that could peel, like paint off the walls. That was what we were drinking back in the day. See? Speaker 2 00:34:30 So our last gig that we had was at a mud park in South Mississippi and they popped Speaker 3 00:34:37 Mud, a mud park. Speaker 2 00:34:38 Wild Speaker 1 00:34:38 Country offered. I'll show you videos and shit. Yeah, it was crazy. Speaker 2 00:34:41 Redneck Mud park extravaganza. That Speaker 3 00:34:43 Sounds amazing. So Speaker 2 00:34:44 They popped the trailer open, they popped the van door open there talking to us. It was like the owners and they're like, y'all want this? Y'all want this? And like Charlie and Gary are like, no, we're good. We're good, we're good. We're like playing video games. We're like, you know, trying to chill before the show and all. Sure. And finally they go, well you got some homemade moonshine that was made out here in the campsite like an hour or ago. You want some? And Charlie goes, no fresh off this deal. Charlie goes, no. And I like popped my head out of the van. I go, I want a bottle, please. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:35:14 Shoot. And they drank this jar. It was, Speaker 2 00:35:16 It was like the big mason jar of it. Speaker 3 00:35:18 That's the real deal out there too, Speaker 1 00:35:19 Too. Between like, between like four or five of 'em. They drank the whole fucking jar Speaker 2 00:35:22 And like a couple hours. And he Speaker 1 00:35:24 Put, and he, and he said, oh, there's a, there's a, there's a shiner, there's something in the bottom, there's a hammer in the bottom, there's a hammer in the bottom. You'll find a Speaker 2 00:35:30 Hammer. You know, like you'll be hammered if you drink this whole thing. Oh dude. That stuff It was a lemonade flavored one. Yeah. I'm, I'm going to say that, that that was so diluted. Like I felt like a little buzz, but I probably drank half the bottle. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:35:42 Oh, Ty Tyler. It was funny watching. So it wasn't Speaker 3 00:35:43 Like Speaker 2 00:35:44 I was just sitting there Speaker 3 00:35:45 Just, it wasn't like the 90% moonshine that you like see on, on the Yeah. That Speaker 2 00:35:50 Cop for Speaker 1 00:35:51 Wasn't. Speaker 3 00:35:51 I've had some of that stuff. It is no joke. Like have you had 1 51 run before? Speaker 2 00:35:56 I've had 1 51 while Turkey went out. That was legal. Yeah. That used to be my go-to. Speaker 3 00:36:00 That's what it's like. Like that's that's what a lot what it's like, man, I had some band mates back in the day when I was one of my first bands I was in that made some, they didn't make it quite right. Like, you have to have the lon methyl alcohols balanced. Right. And they had that at this party and this kid was like, just chugging it. Oh. Taking a shot of some captain chugging it and he went to the hospital man. Cause he was puking up blood. Yeah, yeah. Shit. So they like, they made him a kick that said like, sorry we almost killed you. Like <laugh>, his parents were not very happy about that. But Speaker 2 00:36:27 I definitely like, smelled it and like dipped my finger in to taste it before like, I like actually like, took a swig Speaker 3 00:36:33 Of it. Yeah. It can be dangerous for sure. Sure. Because Speaker 2 00:36:35 Like, that's how like, definitely like, you gotta do it with that kind of stuff, dude. Speaker 1 00:36:37 Shit. That shit can make you go blind for literally Speaker 3 00:36:39 Literal go blind. Yeah. There's all kinds of bad stuff. Speaker 1 00:36:41 For real, dude. It's, it's crazy. But anyway, so about you Speaker 3 00:36:44 Like Speaker 1 00:36:45 This whiskey though? Yeah. We're talking about Tyler saying a mama didn't raise. No, no. Bitch mama didn't raise. No. Someone's gonna be coming out. Um, might already be out by the time this video airs. Speaker 3 00:36:53 Shout out Garrett Speaker 1 00:36:53 Biggs. Garrett Biggs. So another Illinois boy. Um, how did you and Garrett get to know each other because you two Yeah, I think I I met you through Garrett. Speaker 3 00:37:00 Yeah. We're homies man. I I love Garrett like a brother. Um, so we both are from Illinois. Yeah. Um, I, I played in a lot of clubs up in there and, and I I played with a band called The Feud and Hillbillies, I didn't play with them, but we played shows together. Speaker 1 00:37:16 That sounds awesome. Speaker 3 00:37:17 Yeah, they're, they're great man. They've been around for like a decade and they just Speaker 2 00:37:21 Amazing. They sound like they've gotta have a banjo in that band. Speaker 3 00:37:23 They don't, surprisingly. But they, they have a amazing live show. So Garrett would play with them. He'd be like their, uh, it'd be like a dual fronted thing kind of. So I know the drummer really well. Him and I would bounce things off each other all the time. And I was moving down here and he is like, Hey dude, you need to get with this cat. Garrett Biggs. And I was like, who is this guy? I look him up. He's, he's real young at the time I swear he looked like he was like 12. He still looks like he's kind 12. Yes. But yes, he does. He's got facial hair now, so it changes his age a little. His Speaker 1 00:37:49 Little goatee. Speaker 3 00:37:49 Dude that thing's so adorable. <laugh>. No. But, uh, I moved down here and, and he moved down and we contact each other. We're like, Hey, you need to get together. And he moved away for a while. So I never met him. But when he moved back we started writing and now we write like almost once a week it seems like. So I love writing the Garrett, him and I just click really well. And I think he's about, Garrett's a great dude. He's about to man, he's about to turn a new leaf in this, this music thing for him, for himself. I think the song's gonna be huge for him. So Yeah, Speaker 1 00:38:17 Dude. And it, and it's cool you guys both being from Illinois to, to have that familiarity, like Yeah. Where there's, there's, there are a lot of Midwestern folks here. Speaker 3 00:38:26 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:38:27 Whether, whether it's Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, w, Wisconsin, Indiana. Sure. Like there's a lot of y'all here that are, that are making some waves. Everybody talks about the Georgia Boys, the Carolina crew, the Texans. Oh yeah. All those guys. But there's some, there's some folks coming. Speaker 2 00:38:39 Well even you, you got like guys, like going back to like Fred Eldridge and all those guys like coming out of Illinois. Speaker 3 00:38:45 Illinois. Speaker 1 00:38:45 Drew Aldridge Yeah. To Drew. He's a big, he's a big Illinois guy. Speaker 3 00:38:47 Mo Mo Pitney, um, for where he's from, up somewhere up in the north of Illinois. But yeah, Speaker 2 00:38:53 One of my favorite bars to play at is up in Chicago. Uh, Joe's on We Street. Joe Speaker 1 00:38:58 Joe's on Weed is like one of our, one of our favorite gigs. Speaker 3 00:39:02 We, you should say that. We Speaker 2 00:39:03 Went like the night before they were having like their corporate like, uh, Halloween party. Yeah. And so like we play, I got pictures of it and I'll show you later, but like we played and there's just like skeletons and like Ghost and Spiders, like hanging from the ceiling. It's kind of funny Speaker 3 00:39:17 City. Y'all know Ed Edwar Speaker 1 00:39:19 All know. I probably know his face. Speaker 3 00:39:20 He's, he's like the owner of Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Joe's live, Joe's in Weed. Bub City, Carol's Pub. He puts on the Wendy's City Smoke Out. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:27 That was fun. I gotta do that last year with Muscadine. That was a lot of fun. Speaker 3 00:39:31 Allowed to Speaker 2 00:39:32 Do that. We were the first, uh, first band to actually open up the whole kick caboodle last year. Yeah. It was a lot Speaker 3 00:39:39 Of fun. So funny you guys bring that up. I was actually supposed to play at, uh, it's called Emerald is this Thursday and Friday, but it's canceled now, but they're like associated somehow. Yeah. The owner of that and Joe's and, but yeah, that's, uh, I've been up in that area many times. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:39:55 That the live music scene is definitely big up there. Which I see you got, I see you and Garrett like, Garrett's Garrett's out all the time. You're out quite a bit where you guys are bouncing back up there to Illinois, to Indiana. Like where you, so it's kind of cool you guys have your bases up there. Sure. But you're still down here doing the industry thing. How often, like, is, how does that all work with going back up there and playing gigs? Man, Speaker 3 00:40:16 It's uh, I've made that drive so many times. I could do it in my sleep now. Like, uh, Speaker 2 00:40:20 Sorry, I'm going back to Alabama. Speaker 3 00:40:22 <laugh>. Yeah. It's, uh, it's something that I try not to do too much because I did come down here for a reason. Like I'm, I'm in Nashville to do the Nashville thing. I do want to keep in contact with people over there. I do want to keep the fans engaged. So I go up once a month pretty much is what my, I'm trying to limit myself to that first year that I was here and the dead season hit. I was definitely going up like once every other week because I didn't know how to cope with it. I didn't, I, and I could make good money up there. They pay a lot better up there cuz it's more demand and, but yeah, I just, I don't, I don't know. I I love my Illinois people, but I don't want them to think that I'm struggling down here and that I need to come up to make money, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I wanna keep them entertained, but I also want to come up with not the same set every time I wanna come up and be like, all right, here's five new originals I wrote. So check out what I've been working on and the response to the original set has been great. Um, I'm super excited to get some music out. I'm just waiting for the right time. So that'll be coming soon. Hopefully, hopefully before the end of the year. Okay. Speaker 1 00:41:21 Yeah. Nice. I like hearing that dude. Yeah. Hell yeah. Because cuz we would love Now do you have anything out right Speaker 3 00:41:27 Now? I have no music out, just, uh, just like Instagram and YouTube stuff, but I don't know, I'm very much a perfectionist. You were saying that earlier. Yeah. And, and I'm not, I'm not gonna do, I'm not gonna rush into anything just because I'm getting impatient, you know, so. Yeah. Right. I want it to, I want a song to slap me in the face and be like, this is the one. Yep. Yeah. And, and I've been getting something like that. So since Speaker 1 00:41:47 I haven't seen you like full on like live and like, I don't know, like the full production, like background everything. Yeah. For you, your influences? You seem like you're more on the rock side. Speaker 3 00:41:56 Yeah, I mean Speaker 1 00:41:58 Like, like the rock, like you grew up with like rock with some country. Dude, Speaker 3 00:42:01 I, I listened to everything from Beatles to, you know, one of my, my brother's favorite bands that I listened to with him all the time was Creed and Pro Jam. Okay, Speaker 1 00:42:10 Okay. Hell Speaker 3 00:42:11 Yeah. So I, I definitely, like, my first band was Rock. It was actually Funk Rock. It was our original stuff, funk Rock. But we played a lot of rock stuff. Okay. Like chili Peppers and like Gigo Dolls and Matchbox 20, like 90 stuff, you know, and Metallica. And I was never like a Thrasher or a rocker that was, that was never my style. I love harmonies. That's one of my favorite things in a, in a band. Uh, I love The Beatles. That was like, that's still one of my favorite bands of all time. So yeah, just their songwriting, pretty much everything about them, how influential they were. And I don't really have one main focus. I think that's why it's taken me so long to get music out too, is cuz I don't, I don't know what my sound is gonna be yet. I'm just playing around with everything. So I think what I'm gonna do is potentially put out like three songs, you know, like a rock oriented kind of party, fun song, a pop kind of oriented song. Not all the way pop and then a ballad. I've already got those three kind of picked out for the most part. But I kind of wanna put out some random stuff and just see what people really latch onto. And then let the people kind of dictate what direction I take. Yeah. Cause I, I love all music, man. I'm, Speaker 1 00:43:16 Which is what's so cool about how the industry is right now. A hundred percent. You can get music out there and it does, you don't have to, you don't have to pay all this money to get it to radio. You don't that, that side of things, like, it's becoming so much easier for you guys as, as creatives to get your shit out there. Absolutely. And a lot, lot easier for consumers like myself on our end to find your stuff. Absolutely. You know, which is, which is really cool. And there's no like cookie cutter, like this is country. This is rock. Nope. This is po It's all Speaker 3 00:43:42 More diverse than ever. We all Speaker 1 00:43:44 Grew up on, on a variety of shit. Mm-hmm. Like, like I, I grew up listening where some of my first CDs ever bought were mixture of Kenny Chesney's, no Shoes, no shirt, no problems. And Metallica Black album. Yeah. And then the Chili Peppers, that two disc where it was like the Jupiter Speaker 3 00:43:56 And the Men. And then Speaker 1 00:43:58 We, Speaker 3 00:43:58 For Speaker 2 00:43:59 Me, Speaker 1 00:43:59 Like, and then throwing Biggie on and then throwing people like that where like, it's the hip hop where like you're gonna, you're, you wanna play music that's gonna sound good to you is gonna be the shit that you like. You Speaker 3 00:44:08 Know, he probably grew up with a lot of big, again, PAC being you're from the north, north being Speaker 1 00:44:11 Northeast. I actually grew up with a lot more like rock stuff, believe it or not. Like I grew up, if Speaker 2 00:44:15 You, you put him in the car, he is going to turn it into Octane or Speaker 1 00:44:19 Turbo Speaker 2 00:44:19 Or Turbo for xm. So. Wow. It's just like the hard rock Speaker 1 00:44:22 Stuff. Yeah. It's a lot, lot of God smack, lot of things like that. But then at the same time, like I'll, I'll, I'll jam to some jam to some biggies to some, to some of that early like Puff Daddy stuff. Sure. Like, I've been in a real nineties hip hop kick lately. Oh. I don't know why. Yeah. Which is what's crazy too. Sometimes we just get these kicks of just listening to the same shit. Like, like where you really want want Speaker 2 00:44:41 My, uh, my thing was like whenever I could start buying CDs for myself, so like, I grew up like on, we had one country radio on our town that played like Johnny Cash, like Yeah. Dwight Merle, like all that kinda Speaker 3 00:44:52 Stuff. Old school Speaker 2 00:44:53 Stuff. Stuff. Yeah. And then we would play like every now and then, like beer from my horses. There's like something that was newer, but like a lot of the stuff, like, they were very much like old school country oriented. It was like, um, one of the, uh, Oak Ridge Boys is from that town and Okay. He kind of played into that a little bit. You know, Speaker 1 00:45:08 Lots of banjo, <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:45:10 Yeah. Speaker 3 00:45:10 Oh yeah. Speaker 2 00:45:11 But then like, whenever I started buying like, what I wanted to buy and like listening to, like, I was listening to stuff like Gucci, Lil Wayne. Oh yeah. Uh, God Surg Boy, Birdman, like, all that kind of stuff. Like honestly a lot of like new or I was like three hours from New Orleans. Yeah. So like a lot of like New Orleans, like rap. Yeah. And like that Southern, even Houston with like, uh, what's the guy Sea Grills? Speaker 3 00:45:38 Dude, I'm so removed from Oh, I from Speaker 1 00:45:41 That new, I, I hate it, but I'm, I'm guessing it's grills with a z Yeah. Grills. I have no idea. Then I Speaker 3 00:45:47 Grills with an s with the dollar signs. But Speaker 2 00:45:49 It's like a lot of like Latin infused, like rap and like bounce raps. Yeah. So it was infused by like New Orleans scene and then like, you know, being from Atlanta, like ti you know, you're uh, God, who's the other guy that sings Yeah. With Littlejohn, um, east, Speaker 3 00:46:06 East Speaker 2 00:46:06 Side Boys Usher, east Side Boys, like lot of those guys, you know, like whenever I could actually listen to music that I wanted to do, like that's what I like gravitated to heavily in high school. Yeah. And then like, as I've moved back to Nashville, like when I moved here, I don't honestly hated country music. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't listen to it. And like, as I found people like Isabel and Childers and you know, of course guys like Muscadine and you know, guys like y'all that are the like, well I've heard called as like the underbelly of the country world. Sure, sure. You know, um, that's kind of where I've more gravitated and even into like Southern rock with like, steel Woods, whiskey, Meyers, you know, all that kind of stuff. Speaker 3 00:46:44 Hundred percent, man. Yeah. I was very much into like the, the, the rap game whenever I was in high school. Like Lil Wayne, Drake and all those people. Speaker 1 00:46:52 It's, it's all these personalities that make it so much cooler. See for Speaker 2 00:46:55 Us it was Lil Wayne was good before he kind of like went like off the tracks a little bit. Bit weird. Speaker 1 00:46:59 Yeah. I was in my middle school when that happened. Like two, three. Speaker 2 00:47:03 Yeah. Speaker 3 00:47:03 He was supposed to die like 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Like they've said that for like ever, man. Like he, but now he's talking about going back out on tour and like putting out Speaker 2 00:47:11 New music. He was new albums though. Oh, Speaker 3 00:47:12 Did he? Speaker 2 00:47:13 Well he did that whole thing where he went out with, uh, blink. Speaker 3 00:47:17 Oh yeah, yeah. With Travis Barker. Speaker 1 00:47:20 Cause he, cause he like, he wanted to try to rock who was the guy that he did a song, he Speaker 2 00:47:24 Used to do the whole whole thing with. Did Speaker 3 00:47:25 Rock Stack. That was Speaker 2 00:47:27 Lollipop. He played like that like in the thing. And then, what is it? Prom Queen. Speaker 3 00:47:32 He had a couple, he had a couple that he tried to go like Rock with. Speaker 2 00:47:35 He like literally had a whole album where he was playing guitar on it and it was pretty bad. <laugh> looking back at it. It was, it was not the greatest guitar Speaker 1 00:47:43 Playing at the Ton everybody. But Speaker 2 00:47:44 For him he was like, holy crap, this rafter's playing guitar. What the hell? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:47:47 Yeah. And at the time it was probably like his, his, his influence from like the, the label and whatnot was probably like, all right, you need to try this out. Because it's probably like the same thing that's going on with, with a lot of musicians right now with country music. Like talk about like Lit is going country. Like the band that did really My Honest Myers and Speaker 1 00:48:04 Me. I didn't, I didn't know that. Speaker 3 00:48:06 Oh yeah. There's a lot of those people that are doing that. And then, and then Speaker 1 00:48:08 You've Speaker 3 00:48:09 Got Aaron Lewis kind of kicked it off cuz Aaron Lewis was like one of the first Speaker 1 00:48:12 People. Steve, Steven Tyler's put out a country single. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you've got Kobe Cal doing the Gone West thing. Yeah. Yeah. You've got, um, who's another, there's another one that Oh, the one of the guys from Three Doors down. Yeah. Justin, he's been playing lot round and stuff in town. Speaker 2 00:48:25 Brian, uh, Speaker 1 00:48:26 Brian Adams, Speaker 2 00:48:27 No, Latrell. Speaker 1 00:48:29 I was gonna say Brian Latrell. Speaker 2 00:48:31 He's the one of the Backstreet Boys. Like he went Christian, but his son's now doing Country. Speaker 3 00:48:35 Yeah. He did Whiskey Jam a couple, couple weeks ago. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:48:37 Yeah. It's just crazy. And the backs Street Backstreet Boys, that's another one. Oh, Speaker 2 00:48:41 They've kind of done a country thing too with Florida Jordan. Speaker 1 00:48:44 Yeah. It's just how big the genre's going. But it's all the, it's cool that there's no real like borders when Speaker 3 00:48:48 It to, it's more accepted than ever right now. I think. Yeah. It, Speaker 1 00:48:51 That's, and it's only gonna keep going in that direction. Love. Which makes that you guys as creative to like, y'all, y'all have a bigger, bigger palette. Like you don't have to be trying to like Right. Speaker 3 00:48:59 And narrow Speaker 2 00:48:59 My, that was my thing. So like, I come from the Christian background going to Rebekka and all that kind of stuff. Like, well songwriting, like that's what I moved to Nashville was guitar and songwriting. But in the Christian aspect and like, honestly like a year and a half, two years into being here, like, I just completely stepped away and have stepped away since then. Just cause I felt so limited in what I could say and stuff. And like, you know, with writing non, with writing secular music as what we would call it. Like, you know, you can write about anything and you know, you can be real about stuff. You don't have to sugarcoat or you don't have to worry about like, you know, the theology of what you're saying and stuff like that. Sure. So it's great that, you know, you can say what you want and you can like, make it how you want. Speaker 3 00:49:42 Sure. You know, man. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:49:43 Musically. Speaker 3 00:49:44 I love that dude. Yeah. I love how diverse it's gotten. Speaker 1 00:49:47 Yeah, dude. Oh, for sure. Now are you on, are you on Twitter at Speaker 3 00:49:50 All? I am on Twitter. I don't, I don't, oh yeah. I don't access it hardly ever though. Okay. Speaker 1 00:49:53 So what we like to try to do with these, did Speaker 2 00:49:55 You used to We, Speaker 1 00:49:56 We like to dig out. We like to find the Oh boy tweets. Like funny Speaker 3 00:49:59 Tweets. Yeah. No, nothing's Speaker 1 00:50:00 Gonna get Speaker 3 00:50:01 Into trouble. We can totally do Speaker 1 00:50:01 That. Nothing's gonna get in trouble. Bore's gonna do Boudreau's gonna do something. Stuff. I think I, Speaker 3 00:50:04 I have three Twitters. All right. Speaker 2 00:50:06 Which one? What's your main one? Speaker 3 00:50:07 Um, I'll tell you the one that's got the oldest. Speaker 2 00:50:08 Which one's? Your oldest one? Speaker 3 00:50:09 Oh yeah, yeah. Hold on. That's the good one. Speaker 1 00:50:11 You, we want like middle school, like high school. I'm telling Speaker 3 00:50:14 You, I never touched this at all. So hold on a second. Speaker 1 00:50:17 Because we've had some guests that are like notorious, like drunk tweeters, like they love to just get fucked up in tweet Speaker 3 00:50:24 Sea. W 11. That's my, that's what what it c wid. So c w I D 11, capital C I don't know if that matters in the Twitter world. Speaker 2 00:50:34 Nah, Speaker 3 00:50:35 That should be like the oldest one. You find it? Yeah. Oh boy. Join, Speaker 2 00:50:40 Go join September, 2011. Sora or high school, right? Speaker 3 00:50:43 Yeah. That would be, yeah. Speaker 2 00:50:44 When did you, uh, when did you graduate high school? Speaker 3 00:50:47 2011. Speaker 2 00:50:47 Yeah, same. Speaker 1 00:50:48 We're same class. Yeah. I was, Speaker 3 00:50:50 I'm honestly like a little nervous about what's what's about the surface here. Nah, Speaker 1 00:50:53 He, he keeps it. He fine. No, Speaker 3 00:50:56 Please dig up any dirt you have. Speaker 2 00:50:58 This is a great one. From Speaker 3 00:50:59 2014. Just nothing that's gonna get me in trouble. Speaker 1 00:51:01 2014, Speaker 2 00:51:02 I just spent the day in Miller Earth with GL and the flute Des <laugh> hashtag shit. Paul Rudd says Speaker 3 00:51:09 <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:51:09 Oh my god. Fucking Paul Rudd, bro. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:51:14 That's one of my favorite quotes, man. I'm telling you right now. It's, uh, it's role models with Paul Rudd. And you know what, you know what I'm talking about Whenever Speaker 1 00:51:22 They wait. Oh, love that movie. Speaker 2 00:51:24 You have to explain this one. Oh Speaker 3 00:51:26 Boy. Speaker 2 00:51:26 Well, dot, dot dot. Last night I ate a plastic grape. Oh, Speaker 3 00:51:30 <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:51:30 My god. Holy shit. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:51:33 Okay. Yeah, I remember that vi very vividly. Actually. There was this, uh, great <laugh>, there was this party. Surprisingly, I remember it vividly. There's this party where we had like this, um, this is probably not anything you could get away with now, but it's like dressed like a country themed. Like you get assigned like a You're Speaker 2 00:51:51 From what city First Speaker 3 00:51:52 Type stuff. You're from Africa. You're Speaker 2 00:51:53 From Asia. Speaker 3 00:51:54 Oh, that one. You could never get away with it. Now Speaker 1 00:51:56 What, what country were you? Speaker 3 00:51:59 I don't remember. I really don't remember. But, but this person was dressed like they're from Africa and they had like a fruit basket on top of their head. Oh shit. A full of fake fruit. And I was just like so drunk. I was like, grapes. And I just started picking the plastic grapes off and eating them. That's great. And people were like slapping 'em outta my head like, no, don't, I was like, nah, I'm eating these grapes. I was like, I was so determined. I think I was also, that night was, uh, I was pulling bottle caps off with my teeth. I was just Oh, Speaker 1 00:52:26 One of those nights. Okay. Yikes. Speaker 3 00:52:28 It was, yeah. It was, it was not my my best times ever in college, but, uh, uh, Speaker 1 00:52:33 But hey man, that's what college is for. You do some dumb shit. Speaker 3 00:52:37 I'm just glad I have my molar still and my intestines aren't packed. This is plastic Speaker 2 00:52:40 Grapes. This is a great one. Speaker 1 00:52:41 Where, where's this one? From Speaker 2 00:52:43 1 30 14, January 30th, 2014. Okay. I've never been known for giving good PowerPoints. When we used overheads, I was known for giving good overhead. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:52:54 My psych teacher, my, my Speaker 3 00:52:56 Psych teacher. Dude, I remember that. This is great. We should, I should do this more often, man. I love this. Bringing back old memories. He said that in the middle of a lecture hall to like 300 people and like nobody got it. It was cricket. But this professor and I were like, we saw eye to eye cuz I loved his sense of humor and we're both smart asses. So like, anytime he had something smart to say, he'd like look up at me in the lecture hall and be like, Clayton, anything to say? Yep. I got you, bro. That's awesome. Speaker 1 00:53:22 Oh man. Speaker 3 00:53:22 Any other golden nuggets in there, man, I'm, you got me, me like, all, all in, man. I love this. Speaker 1 00:53:27 You gotta be, you gotta be careful. Boudreau's got a, got a couple Twitter trolls out there in the Twitterverse. Oh. So he, oh, these are great. He might jump in there. Speaker 2 00:53:34 This is a good one. I like to t Bels and Bonous <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:53:38 What, what's, what's the, what's that? Speaker 2 00:53:39 It's a song. Speaker 3 00:53:40 It's a, is it, what is it? Sesame Street? Yeah. It's like, I like to eat, eat, eat apples and benini. Yeah. It's any, any whatever value you use, have Speaker 2 00:53:52 To replace that. Speaker 3 00:53:52 I like the o opals and bons. Apples and bananas. Yeah. Ah, Speaker 1 00:53:55 Yeah. Yeah. I gotcha. Speaker 2 00:53:56 Um, Speaker 3 00:53:57 That's a good one, man. My professor Speaker 2 00:53:59 Says whack off one more time. I'm outta here <laugh>. And Speaker 3 00:54:02 He, I remember that, but I don't remember what professor it was, but they kept saying like, whack off. I was like, what are, he's using that term for what? Possibly there's gotta be a different, Speaker 1 00:54:11 Where'd you go to college? Speaker 3 00:54:12 Uh, Illinois State. Okay. Speaker 1 00:54:13 Red Birds. Speaker 3 00:54:14 Oh yeah. Go Birds. Speaker 2 00:54:16 Not the, uh, fighting line on. Speaker 3 00:54:17 No, that's U of I I wasn't privileged enough for that one. Oh, oh yeah. Government funding didn't help me out with that one. <laugh>? Speaker 2 00:54:24 Yeah. Um, who's the D Brown? Speaker 3 00:54:28 D Brown. That guy. D Brown. Oh, the point guard dude. I don't know what happened to him, but he, Speaker 2 00:54:32 He flunked harder in Speaker 3 00:54:33 The nba. Yeah, he was good in, in college. He was like the most clutch dude ever. D for three man. That's what it was. He, he's three. Yeah. Then Meyers Leonard came through and he's just like, totally, we never forget about D Brown. Wow. I Speaker 2 00:54:45 Don't know if this is a good one, but this is hilarious to me. Speaker 3 00:54:47 Bring it up. I'm ready. Speaker 2 00:54:49 My ANR professor just smacked herself in the face, making me happy because I wanted to do that to her since day one. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:54:56 Oh, anthropology. Anthropology. I was gonna say, what the fuck's? Anthropology. Anthropology. Speaker 3 00:55:02 I would take that class, but, uh, no. Anthropology. Yeah. I'm trying to remember who that would've been, but yeah, it was, man, I had a couple really weird professors, man. Like that one, I remember him smacking himself in the face. Were Speaker 1 00:55:13 You a history major or something? Speaker 3 00:55:14 No, I was a sociology major. Okay. Speaker 1 00:55:16 So I was gonna guess with the, with the anthropology. That's why I was Speaker 3 00:55:19 Oh, we had to take anthropology too. Speaker 1 00:55:20 Oh, it was like a gen Speaker 3 00:55:21 Ed. It was like a, it was like cross it cross. There was some crossover basically. Okay. But, but yeah, I had one teacher that was a marriage and family professor and she, like, she was an acting, so she had like this fake fall She did. And she did it for us in the last day where she just like collapsed on the floor. Oh, Speaker 2 00:55:37 That's great. It's Speaker 3 00:55:38 Weird, man. Professors are weird. They are Speaker 1 00:55:40 Really? They are. They are. Yeah, they are. Dude, Speaker 2 00:55:42 I, I had some ones like legit, so I didn't finish college because I got a job and started making money and after five years of not having a degree, I was like, you know what money's nice for right now. Also, it came to the point where I'd have to pay for everything out of pocket. So I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna go work for a little bit. Sure. And then I'll go back and, Speaker 3 00:56:02 Yeah. A hundred percent never. Speaker 2 00:56:04 But, uh, I have a professor that was an economics professor and I've heard rumors that she has retired and so now I want to go back to college. There Speaker 3 00:56:15 You Speaker 2 00:56:15 Go. That was that how bad of a professor. Speaker 3 00:56:18 Man. I had a couple like that too. I Speaker 2 00:56:20 Also had a professor in like, uh, I forget what class. It was a music business class. Mm-hmm. But I had like, just taken like copyright law. It was publishing. Yeah, it was publishing. Okay. And I got 110 in the class without doing any homework and I just made a hundred on tests, but I had so much extra credit from like correcting him during the semester for stuff that he didn't know. Oh wow. That I made 110 in the class. There you go. Because like, he just couldn't do basic math. Speaker 1 00:56:49 Damn. Yeah. No, that's crazy's crazy. That's Speaker 3 00:56:51 Not a good quality to have as a Speaker 1 00:56:52 Professor. Yeah, I had, yeah, I, I made it at, I made it outta college and stuff. I went through a private school. Speaker 2 00:56:57 I had like six classes left. Speaker 1 00:56:57 So it was, um, it was inexperience for sure, but hey, if I didn't go to that college, I didn't get involved in the college radio station, I would've gotten in the country radio. Wouldn't dude, that's, I wouldn't have met Dave Hangley who convinced me to move down here. And we wouldn't be, I wouldn't be Could Speaker 3 00:57:10 You could regret any, Speaker 2 00:57:10 I mean, if I didn't go to college, I wouldn't have, uh, moved to Nashville. Yeah. I wouldn't have, uh, did three years doing sound there and wouldn't be doing what I do now. So now Speaker 1 00:57:19 Wouldn't it be paying back a shit ton of loans? You know? That's Speaker 3 00:57:22 Right. Where would, where would my $170 a month go if I didn't have to put it in the government's pocket? Dude, Speaker 1 00:57:27 Absolutely. I'm right there with you. Speaker 3 00:57:29 My thing is, man, like I, I got my bachelor's and I was all in a school. I loved school man. I, I, my, my major specifically was writing like, the smallest amount of pages was 12 page papers. And my senior thesis was a 56 page Speaker 2 00:57:42 Paper. What was your major again? Speaker 3 00:57:43 Sociology. Speaker 2 00:57:44 Oh God. Speaker 3 00:57:45 The minor in psych. So my, my senior thesis was a 56 page paper, but I loved it, man. Yeah. I loved writing papers and I, I just loved the detail-oriented side of it and thinking about how people function. And I was geared up to go into graduate school. I was ready to go. I was gonna be a clinical counselor. That was what I was gonna do, had passion in it, but this music thing was kind of kicking off and I, I had a couple professors I was really close with and I was like, oh man, am I, am I messing up here? Am I doing something wrong? They're like, no, you can always go back to school. Like, pursue your passion self selfishly. That's awesome. And like for them to tell me that that was major man and I'm so glad I did it. Speaker 1 00:58:20 Yeah. Now that sociology psychology background. Yeah. Is that, do you, do you think that helps you with songwriting at all? Speaker 3 00:58:25 Oh yeah, man. Um, Speaker 1 00:58:26 Opening up and like being able to describe situations and describe the states the people are in and things like that. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:58:31 So two ways I can think of off the top of my head are, are one, it helped me to be able to see things from other people's perspectives. To be able to write with people that, for example, girl writers, talking about boys. Like I obviously don't have any experience with that, but I can place myself under their shoes and see it from their perspective. That's one thing it taught me. Another thing is the writing the papers was like, kind of like telling a story. A lot of times you had to go from A to B and with as much style as possible. And that's kind of what you do in songwriting. You're trying to get from A to B in the most stylish way you can and attract attention to it, you know? And yeah. So I think that helped me, especially with being detail oriented and seeing something through fruition and just seeing how it would play out from beginning to end. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:59:13 No dude, that's because as soon as you said that, I'm like, oh, this makes sense now. Yeah. Like, yeah, like with you with with how, with how your writing styles Speaker 3 00:59:20 Are and stuff. Yeah, man. I mean, I'm not like, I'm not like somebody who's always analyzing people. At least I try not to. But it also helps just with making connections too. Yeah. Like being out and networking. Like you, you see it from a different perspective whenever you have some training and how peoples, uh, behave in social settings. So yeah. That's definitely helped. Absolutely. Yeah. I use it. I, I'll, I haven't used it for a career specifically, but I kind of use it for my career in a way. Speaker 1 00:59:47 Oh yeah. No dude. That's, that's how I feel with having a communications degree. Like Speaker 3 00:59:50 Everything's applicable in, in Speaker 1 00:59:51 Some way. Yeah. My goal was to be, was to be the voice on the radio. My goal was to be like a Bobby Bones or somebody like that and Yeah. Can't do that anymore. But we got a microphone here and, and that Speaker 3 01:00:00 Learning learn, uh, not that you, you Speaker 1 01:00:01 Can't do it, but Yeah. But it's just hard. It's just hard man. With the way the industry's are. Speaker 3 01:00:04 Oh, we're doing it right now, dude. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:00:05 Exactly. Cause we're doing it our way. Exactly. Which is cool, dude. So I Speaker 3 01:00:08 Would've never imagined sociology would meal lead me to a table here with y'all and that's pretty cool too. So Speaker 1 01:00:13 Drinking some good bourbon. Speaker 3 01:00:14 I'll cheer that. You got any up in there? Speaker 2 01:00:16 I'm, you got a nip. Speaker 1 01:00:18 Cheers, boys. I still got some more water. Yeah. This St Patrick's Day is cool. Pretty, pretty freaking different. You would not think 'em should Speaker 2 01:00:26 Have had a bottle of Jameson. Sorry. Speaker 3 01:00:28 Hey man, it's all good. I I love this whiskey. It's super good. It's Speaker 2 01:00:30 Okay. Um, wild Turkey actually sends all their shit to Jameson, so we learned that on the last podcast. Oh really? Yeah, all their barrels after they use 'em once. Cause for bourbon you can only use it once. So Oh. For whiskey you can use it five times or a hundred years, whichever comes first. Oh wow. So they sell their, once use barrels off to whiskey companies sell like a lot of scotch companies and Jameson buy barrels. Hmm. Speaker 3 01:00:53 I had no idea. Speaker 2 01:00:54 That way they don't just go to waste. That's Speaker 3 01:00:56 Smart. Speaker 1 01:00:56 Learn something new every day. Right? Speaker 2 01:00:57 That's right. And they're not existent, so, so therefore, that's why Jameson isn't expensive. So. Speaker 3 01:01:02 Interesting. Speaker 1 01:01:03 Yeah. Dude. So for 2020 now you were talking, you were gonna be wanting to learn, learn a little bit more. What are some goals you got right now? I mean, I know all this crazy shit's going on, but Speaker 3 01:01:11 Man, it's, I always go into the, like the New Year's with these goals, you know, like everybody does. But I try to set realistic ones. Last year I, I made the mistake of setting super unrealistic goals. This year I'm trying to put, put some in front of me that are attainable. So I wanna get better at guitar. I've always been just a st drummer. I've played for like 16 years and I haven't progressed in like, the last 15 <laugh>. So, um, once I started singing, I was just like, all right, we'll just strum. But, uh, that's something I definitely wanna get better at harmonies, wanna get better at songwriting, of course I wanna get myself in better shape, you know, just some of those things. Okay. Make more connections. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:01:52 No, I gotcha man. I gotcha. So where can people go to find out more about you and stuff? I know you're gonna be doing that up, you're gonna be doing that up Star Couch concert series. Yep. And you, you, you're very active on social media post a new stuff. I always love when you post, whether it's a cover or whether it's a snippet of an original that you're proud of, man. Like, I I love watching all this stuff. Thank you. So what, what are those accounts? Speaker 3 01:02:11 Yeah, so Instagram and Facebook are my main ones. Instagram's, uh, Clayton Shaa music. I think actually Facebook is too, my Twitter's the only one that's different. It's Clayton Shaa solo. So that's probably why I like, got a bad taste in my mouth. I couldn't get that Clayton Shaa music for whatever reason. I think it was too long or something. But, but yeah, Instagram and, uh, and we will be getting some music out soon. I've been talking with my producer and, and, uh, he's excited about a couple songs. So just waiting for right timing and, and you know, the whole process. Yeah. That works. So Speaker 1 01:02:39 Tru Trust the process. That's right. They set up in Philadelphia and now they're, they got a great NBA team, so. Speaker 3 01:02:43 Hundred percent. Speaker 1 01:02:44 Yeah, dude. Um, so we always wrap this thing up with, um, our guest playing a, playing a song for us. Yeah, you got a lot. You got a pretty big catalog. What song you wanna play for us Speaker 3 01:02:51 Today? Dude, I'm Speaker 1 01:02:52 Gonna you grab your guitar in just a minute. Speaker 3 01:02:54 Yeah. So I'm gonna do, um, this, this one that I've been really excited about. I wrote with, uh, John Craft, Taylor Phillips and, uh, Garrett Jacobs. Um, he was on American Idol. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:03:05 We, Garrett actually did a run with us down in Louisiana. Yeah, Speaker 3 01:03:08 He's a good Speaker 1 01:03:08 Dude. Yeah. Oh, he's a very good dude. And Desiree that his whole crew people Awesome. That whole crew. Speaker 3 01:03:13 So, so John asked me to write with him and, and, uh, Garrett Jacobs, and we wrote a song in about two hours and we're wrapping up and John's like, Hey, Taylor wants to come write with us. Is that cool? And Garrett's like, who's Taylor? He's like, well, he wrote Hurricane Good as You Homesick. And Garrett's like, yeah, let's do it. So we wrote three songs and like a matter of five hours. Damn. That's awesome. So this one that I'm about to play is the last one that we wrote. Um, and it took us literally like an hour and a half to write. It just kind of fell out up. So it's great. What's it called? Um, <laugh>. I, I kind of just recently named it Girl Like You, I don't really know what it's gonna be called, but I think that's probably what it's called. So yeah, it's, it's, it's got a long title before it was Where's a Girl Like You come from? But that's way too long, so Yes. Yeah. So I'm thinking Girl Like You, but maybe Speaker 2 01:03:58 Some parentheses in there. Speaker 3 01:03:59 <laugh>. Yeah, it's, it's, it's one that's a little more pop oriented. I'm just kind of playing around with different stuff, so Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm excited about. Fuck. Speaker 1 01:04:05 Yeah. And those, and those are great dudes to be riding with you. Oh man, Speaker 3 01:04:08 I'm glad Pump to get in that room, man. Dude, Speaker 1 01:04:10 Those are, and, and Craft you were talking about those, you were talking about, uh, craft singles and stuff. Yeah. That, that's one of our boys, Speaker 3 01:04:15 Dude, I've been telling him since day one. I'm like, dude, you gotta do like the, the Luke Combs arti like the, uh, the graphic, like the animated graphic for your, your, uh, album and have it be a craft single package and have the slices of cheese coming out. And each one's a single. It's like, here's the one Sliced of cheese. It's this song. Speaker 1 01:04:32 There's your album art right there. Yeah. Dude, Speaker 3 01:04:34 I think that'd be brilliant. But no Speaker 1 01:04:35 Dude, it's, it's awesome. But hey man, so, so girl like you. Right. Awesome. Well thank you guys for listening to, uh, this week's edition of the In the Round podcast, episode 41. Yeah. Badass Bore. We did another one. Yeah. Get through this quarantine thing. You got your bourbon. I got my stuff over there in the corner. I got lots of water. We got Beaver nuggets still, and we're getting through this thing. Barely, barely. We're brother low on Beaver Speaker 3 01:04:57 Nuggets. Thanks for giving me a beaver nugget. Of course. Slow supply, everything. Speaker 1 01:05:01 Thanks. Course, bro. Speaker 2 01:05:01 We, we stopped at a Bucky's one night late after a show, you know, one, 2:00 AM stop. And those are always dangerous. And we've stopped at the buggies. Speaker 1 01:05:09 And munchies and bies are buckies dangerous. Munchies munchies. When you're, when you're freaking, when you're chilling after a show and you're, you're getting, getting a little, you getting a little toasty and getting the munchies. This place is freaking dangerous. Is Speaker 4 01:05:21 Bucky's like a loves kind of. It's a, Speaker 1 01:05:22 It is. It's Speaker 2 01:05:23 Three times the size of love. Oh, we'll Speaker 1 01:05:24 Show, we'll Speaker 4 01:05:25 Show you picture. I know what it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's like a Walmart gas station. Speaker 1 01:05:28 Yeah. We'll show. Yeah, dude, it's, Speaker 2 01:05:30 Yeah, it's amazing. Speaker 1 01:05:30 It's fucking insane. But we're stocked up here. Um, thank you guys for listening to another episode. Yeah, yeah. In the round podcast on Instagram. Where on Twitter? Tyler in Speaker 2 01:05:39 The round pod. Speaker 1 01:05:41 Pod. P o d <laugh>. Too Speaker 2 01:05:42 Long to get podcasts, unfortunately. Speaker 1 01:05:44 Twitter, man. Yeah. <laugh>. And then we've got, um, you can follow me at Map Brill at, uh, just a wandering Tyler. We've also got stuff on you YouTube, like, like Speaker 2 01:05:52 Your loss, not like you're, uh, thinking, not Speaker 1 01:05:54 Like your thinking <laugh>. And, um, and yeah, so you guys can check out all that content again, still waiting to get word from our, uh, our friends over at Live Oak on, uh, when operations are gonna be opening up and whatnot. But y'all stay tuned for the details. We'll be bringing writers once Speaker 2 01:06:07 Back out, once, uh, resident redneck. Speaker 1 01:06:09 Yeah, Jacob. Um, he's, um, he's a little busy, so Tyler's gonna be working on the website, so we should have an in Thero podcast website for y'all going coding. Speaker 2 01:06:18 So we'll see how this goes. Speaker 1 01:06:19 We'll see how it goes. Now without further ado putting a bow on the episode. Y'all give it up. Listen to our boy, Mr. Clay and Shea. Here is girl like you. Y'all been listening to the In the Round podcast. Speaker 4 01:06:37 You got that beautiful. I ain't ever seen small town Unusual Right outta my dreams. Yeah. My whole life For you. Every day praying for you. Oh yeah. You know, I come from, it's gotta be heaven. It's gotta be, it's gotta be heaven. It's gotta be heaven. You are such a miracle with your I Soul Green. Your kiss is spiritual. Every time It saves me. Got the heart. I want feeling walking on streets go, oh yeah. Come, come from. It's gotta be heaven. It's gotta be, it's gotta, it's gotta, you come from up there in the, the sun girl you come from. Its gotta be, it's gotta be. It's gotta be heaven. It's gotta be.