Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:13 What's up everybody? How we doing? Welcome back to the In The Round podcast, our first quarantine Coronavirus episode, and it is going down on St. Patrick's Day here in 2020. And, uh, you got Matt and Tyler and we've got a guy with us. We've been jamming his new EP Light Me Up and, uh, he's been crushing. It's a good buddy. Sam Vargas. Sam, how the hell you doing? I'm
Speaker 2 00:00:35 Already having so much fun,
Speaker 1 00:00:36 Dude. Oh yeah, dude, this quarantine shit is crazy.
Speaker 2 00:00:42 I'm I'm about it. I'm about it. I literally was like, I'm gonna save so much money. This is,
Speaker 3 00:00:47 Yeah. Honestly, I mean, I'm not making money, but also like, I'm not spending money. I bought MLB the show today because it came out, but like, like I was like full hundred dollars version or regular version. I'll go a regular version.
Speaker 1 00:00:58 <laugh>. Yeah, no, absolutely man. And uh, Boudreaux brought some stuff from your native land of Kentucky. Yes. So what have we got there, Tyler?
Speaker 3 00:01:07 So, uh, the one that me and him both picked out is the Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit, uh, single barrel. It is a bottle from November of 2019, uh, barrel number 1903, and this is bottle number 30.
Speaker 1 00:01:22 What's up? The guy signed it.
Speaker 3 00:01:23 Yeah. So Jimmy Russell is the master distiller from Wild Turkey. He's him and his brother, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the whole family. The whole family does it, but like him and his brother are like the two master distiller, like they are the face of Wild Turkey. Um, and yeah, whenever I went a couple months ago to the, uh, distillery, he was sitting there in the welcome center and he was like, Hey, if you buy a bottle, like I'll sign up for you. So of course I didn't go for the cheap shit <laugh>. I went for the most expensive one they had except for I want the old school Kentucky Spirit bottle.
Speaker 2 00:01:58 Oh, you mean the, the circle one as it has like little
Speaker 3 00:01:59 Bridges on? Yeah. That, that looks like a Turkey tail kind of. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's the one I want. And I was kind of like upset that they didn't have it there, but I was like, you know what? Like I'm still not gonna go cheap. Well,
Speaker 2 00:02:10 I just have to say how proud I was whenever I walked in here cuz you had a signed Kentucky spirit signed by Jimmy Russell and you were just like, it's already open. Yeah, it's not, I was just so excited, was like, no, it's not me to be fucking looked at. It's,
Speaker 1 00:02:23 No, it's bourbon. It's, it's meant for you
Speaker 2 00:02:26 Don't care whose name on it, like I'm drinking it. Cheers, by the way. We haven't done that yet. Cheers.
Speaker 1 00:02:30 Hey, I got, I got my glass. I got my glass of water. We're gonna be, be hammering out a few episodes today, so it's gonna be a long day. But, uh, Sam dudes. So you're from Kentucky? Yes. How long have you been living in Nashville and you said something about Texas.
Speaker 2 00:02:41 Um, I've been in Nashville two, two and a half years. Um, and then I went to school in Austin just to kind of be close to a music scene and Austin was rowdy as hell. U Texas. Yeah, ut and then, um, after that I spent like, just like a split second in Dallas with my family and then went back to my hometown and then to Nashville. Nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:01 Yeah. Nice dude. So what was the Texas scene like? Because your music, we, we immediately got those like Rustin Kelly kind of vibe like that, those vibes of, I don't mind that at all. What's that? What's, what's going on out, out that way? Out out, yeah. Out in the Midwest. Um, what was being in that Texas scene like, especially as a young guy going to college.
Speaker 2 00:03:18 Yeah, so Texas was rowdy. Texas is like, I I always say this about Austin, like if, if Nashville's the first born like music scene city, then Austin's definitely like the troubled middle child that does not have its shit together but is really, really fun to be around. I'm, so there's a less of an
Speaker 3 00:03:36 And who's the youngest child then?
Speaker 2 00:03:38 I just had this yesterday. Who was it? Um, I'll use Louisville. I think Louisville's a baby music city for sure. Yeah. I mean there's, there's other ones with the bigger scenes, but I'm gonna keep it, I'm gonna keep it in the family. <laugh>. Okay. Yeah. Um, but then, uh, it's, there's not a lot of as much industry actually there's very little music industry in Austin. Um, but there's just so much that in like in a community and obviously got like south by Southwest and um, Austin City Limits. R i
Speaker 3 00:04:05 P.
Speaker 2 00:04:05 Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 00:04:06 Hey dude, how crazy is that to be,
Speaker 2 00:04:08 I was supposed to go down there and play it. Yeah, really. It's gonna be my first time playing this year and I was so excited cuz it was right down on sixth Street and I've been Oh
Speaker 3 00:04:16 Wow. Yeah. That's great.
Speaker 2 00:04:16 I've been trying to get back to sixth Street for four years now. Solely because of a burger. There is a burger. Tell me about this. On sixth Street called Casino El Camino. Oh, it sounds
Speaker 1 00:04:27 Delicious. And
Speaker 2 00:04:28 I would steak anything that it's the best burger anybody has ever had.
Speaker 3 00:04:32 So if our shows hold up our next show's in Austin.
Speaker 2 00:04:35 Okay. Yeah. We have to go literally. So I was in a frat <laugh> whenever I was going through, um, college there. And this, this burger bar sat at the end of, uh, end of all the like, kinda like their Broadway. Yeah. And they wouldn't let us in cuz all my friends looked too preppy. Like this bar wouldn't let any like FRAs in so I would have to go in. So I had had Long Hair Cox came.
Speaker 1 00:04:59 Yeah. Camo Crocs. And we go to, we go to Antons, it's like,
Speaker 2 00:05:02 No, no PFGs allowed in this fucking place. It was like a biker bar. And so I would go in with my long hair and I would order like six or seven burgers at like 2:00 AM Come back out and just give them to like my buddies and we all just sit on the sidewalk and eat burgers and go home <laugh>. But best place in the entire world. I love those burgers is great. That's
Speaker 1 00:05:20 Awesome. Yeah. I'm definitely gonna have to check that out. When we're in Austin, what's it called?
Speaker 2 00:05:23 Casino El Camino.
Speaker 3 00:05:25 What's the best burger?
Speaker 2 00:05:27 The Amarillo, but also close Rival is the Buffalo. Either way get the buffalo bun, but also, especially if you, if you boys like this stuff. Um, I'm holding up bourbon by the way. Um, check out Friedman's Friedman's Barbecue. So you know about like Franklin's barbecue?
Speaker 3 00:05:43 Yeah, yeah. I've had Salt Lick.
Speaker 2 00:05:45 Franklin says that, um, lemme get this right, Franklin says that Friedman's does better ribs. Either they like he has better ribs or he has better brisket, but it's definitely the best bourbon bar. Ooh. And it's built in like this old stone building right by campus.
Speaker 3 00:06:00 I went to a, uh, so with you being from Texas, I'm not sure if they had 'em like in your part, but have you ever heard of Whiskey Cake?
Speaker 2 00:06:06 Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 00:06:06 <affirmative>. Dude, there's a place they're in Houston. I know cuz me and my girlfriend always go and uh, they have literally, it's just a wall of nothing but like bourbon and whiskey. Like they have a book that they hand you that's like a regular size like menu that's like 12 point font for like two and a half pages of whiskey and bourbon.
Speaker 2 00:06:30 That's what we like to see. Yeah, that's what we like to see.
Speaker 3 00:06:33 Like all your scotch that you want, they have like Blanton's that they like pick out. Like they have barrels that they like
Speaker 1 00:06:40 Go that, that sounds crazy. <laugh> sounds delicious.
Speaker 3 00:06:42 There's also another place I ate in, uh, shoot, where was it? It was, uh, in Kentucky. Uh, uh, Frankfurt maybe. Yeah. Um, I forget where it was, but it was a little hole in the wall we just walked into and they like had like, I forget who all it was. Uh, I wanna say it was Knob Creek. Um, Woodford. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Wild Cherokee. And there was another one that I didn't recognize really, but they had like personal barrels for them.
Speaker 2 00:07:13 That's the best thing in the world, man. Yeah. Like there's nothing cooler than getting going. Pick out a barrel of whiskey. There's a, I used to work at this bar in town called uh, 4 0 4, which is the, uh, biggest and best bourbon bar in the southeast. And uh, they still like, well invite me to go pick up barrels.
Speaker 3 00:07:29 Hell yeah dude. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:07:30 It's
Speaker 3 00:07:30 So sick. One last story about bourbon before <laugh> before we get on with the podcast. So whenever I went, obviously I went for my birthday. We did, uh, Jim Beam, uh, Buffalo Trace, uh, what's this one on this Jim? Be Beer. Yeah. Uh, I'm sorry. <laugh> Wild Turkey. Um, Woodford Makers. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, four Roses and uh, what's the other big one? Bullet. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. We did all seven of those. Uh, me and my girlfriend did and that was my birthday, like extravaganza. So like it was a hell of a wedding. Yeah. It was a ton of fun. Yeah. We three days. Yeah. And we
Speaker 1 00:08:04 Had a, we had a Boudro Bday Bash here in Nashville too. You're talking about that after. Yeah. It was a rough co co Wetzel was in town and we were, and those guys were, those those guys took,
Speaker 3 00:08:13 I lost town at like ten eight, 10:00 PM about 18 to 21 Knob Creeks Deep
Speaker 2 00:08:20 Bourbon binging is,
Speaker 1 00:08:21 It's a different level.
Speaker 2 00:08:22 It's interesting cuz you hit a threshold, but where you can keep on going,
Speaker 3 00:08:26 But Yeah, I was about to say I hit like 18 to 21 and I lost count and that was at 10 and I know I was drinking till two.
Speaker 1 00:08:33 Yeah. I I didn't take Tyler home that night and I drove him up there. So that, that tells you. Yeah. There's the long
Speaker 3 00:08:38 Story that we won't talk about over Mike right now. So
Speaker 1 00:08:41 Anyway, so but anyways, so you moved to Nashville two and a half years ago? Yep.
Speaker 3 00:08:44 Hey, I wasn't double my story
Speaker 1 00:08:45 Done. Keep talking about the damn one. Okay. It is St. Patty's day
Speaker 3 00:08:47 After all. Last thing, last thing. Actually two things. Cause they're really fun. St. Patty's Day fact, but, uh, whenever we were at Jim Beam, they were like, who's birth? Anybody celebrating anything? I was like, yeah, I'm celebrating my birthday. And they're like, cool. So we go over to the Knob Creek Park and he goes, since it's your birthday, come here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I came in there and he got to like dump out the barrel. Like you got to uncork it, dump it out hot, watch it go through. And then he's like, do you want a bottle of this? And I was like, and then he like poured out a glass and he's like, do you want a bottle of this? And I stuck my finger in and I was like, yeah, it was a 2005 barrel. Ooh
Speaker 2 00:09:24 Yeah. Fuck me up.
Speaker 3 00:09:25 Yeah. So got to watch the bottling process and all, and at the end they, you know, wax it mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then I gotta put my thumbprint in it.
Speaker 2 00:09:34 No shit, dude.
Speaker 3 00:09:35 So now I have that bottle at home unopened. Okay. Cause I'm saving that one for a very like, what very special occasion. I don't know yet, but like, something big. And how
Speaker 2 00:09:45 About the end of the world? Dude, how about you just crack it
Speaker 1 00:09:48 Open? Right? Freaking now.
Speaker 3 00:09:50 Well it's, it's about 10 miles away from here, so we're good.
Speaker 1 00:09:53 Damn.
Speaker 3 00:09:54 It is safe. Yeah. Also, second fact for St. Patty's Day real quick. Do you know that, uh, I think it was Woodford. No. Yeah, I think it was Woodford, um, or Wild Turkey. It was one of those two, um, Jameson, the popular, uh, Irish whiskey buys all their bottles direct from them. So for
Speaker 2 00:10:16 You mean all their barrels? All
Speaker 3 00:10:17 Their barrels? Yeah. Because for bourbon it has to be the first time use, but then for other whiskey you can use it. It's either five more times or a hundred years, whichever comes
Speaker 2 00:10:26 First. So it's, so it's Woodford, so, um, brown. Yeah, it is Wood. Woodford Brown Foreman owns, uh, Woodford and Brown Foreman is one of the largest exporters of barrels. Yes. So all, all of their, there's a 0%, uh, like a 0.1% was at all brown foreman distilleries. It's absolutely amazing. Yeah. I used to work at Jack Daniels and that's the same barrel maker. It's so different. Coopers sometimes, but yeah. All that goes over to Ireland and
Speaker 3 00:10:50 Scotland. They buy em secondhand.
Speaker 1 00:10:51 Yeah. Yep. That's awesome. The more you know, I'll tell you what, I had to get outta drinking bourbon about three years ago, but when I, when I drank it, I loved it. But I wish I could have.
Speaker 3 00:10:59 It was funny the night of my birthday, I was like giving them like a Ted talk in the bar of bourbon. It is funny. There's a funny video of it. This
Speaker 2 00:11:06 Is, this is dangerous cuz I can nerd out about bourbon. We'll, never ever touch music. Cause I love talking about bourbon. Yeah. Also, I have to say, if I close my eyes, all I hear is Steve-O and if I open my eyes, it's almost TiVo talking to me. Hey.
Speaker 1 00:11:20 Alright. Alright. Yes. I gotta go get my nuts pierced. Right?
Speaker 3 00:11:25 Oh, that would be a good time. That'd be some great content.
Speaker 1 00:11:28 Oh dude, definitely, definitely. No man. But so two and a half years ago you moved to Nashville. What made you want to come from, so you said you went back to Kentucky and then came down here. What prompted the move to wanting to come here? Broke
Speaker 2 00:11:40 Up with band that had been on and off with for fuck nine, 10 years. And uh, I thought basically considered myself a subpar musician, but I knew I could write songs. I was like, I'm gonna go just do that in Nashville. Okay. I was like literally working in a, um, took in a grocery store at the time after gonna to college for an advertising degree. Interesting. Um, and, uh,
Speaker 3 00:12:03 I mean, hey, you can pay off
Speaker 2 00:12:05 Right <laugh>. Yeah. And yeah. And I was like, fuck it going. I think I made the decision to move to Nashville and ended up in Nashville within seven days.
Speaker 3 00:12:16 Wow. Hell
Speaker 1 00:12:17 Yeah. That's awesome, man. So where in town were you living when you first moved here? Oh. Or did you bounce around quite a bit?
Speaker 2 00:12:23 No, it was bougie as shit, so, oh. I was, uh, I had some help moving to town and then I was also actually working two jobs when I moved to town. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:12:33 Who
Speaker 3 00:12:33 Isn't here.
Speaker 2 00:12:33 And everybody was like, oh, you should live in the Gulch. And I was like, sick. So was in there and then out of there because that was expensive. Now I'm in East Nashville. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:12:43 Are you part Yeah. Are you good with all, with all the stuff that went through and stuff. This is our first episode since,
Speaker 2 00:12:48 Since the tornadoes tornado.
Speaker 1 00:12:49 It's crazy. Three weeks or in two weeks, however long it's fucking been. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 3 00:12:53 It was two weeks yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:12:54 Tornadoes,
Speaker 2 00:12:55 Cor
Speaker 1 00:12:56 Coronavirus, Broadway shuts closed. Broadway shuts down, everybody loses their gigs. Ev it's crazy. Yeah. So where were you when, uh, that tornado came from? About a
Speaker 2 00:13:03 Quarter mile. So I'm like right up there by like, Mickey's in the Y Okay. So, uh, it didn't touch us. Um, but God did it touch like, you know, so much like five points squashed. Um, attaboy had a really, really hard time with it. That's one of my favorite bars in town. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:13:20 Well that's where like the mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:13:23 All, all some heavy, heavy stuff went down there. Yeah. Um, but it's also, you know, really cool, like just the next day like, like there's so much bad stuff that happened and whenever you drive down that street it's just people helping each other. So, um, it was
Speaker 3 00:13:35 Cool that like last Monday they called volunteers and said, Hey, stop going out. Yep. Like it's professional work now. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like unfortunately, like it's to the point where you can't do anything else. Like, we need to get power restored, but,
Speaker 1 00:13:47 But just how quickly people were out there the next day with chainsaws and trucks and getting after it and mm-hmm. <affirmative> really why this is coming.
Speaker 3 00:13:54 And we know people that was out that night trying to help. Yeah, yeah. You know, they got off their gig on Broadway, made sure their stuff was safe and then they were like immediately trying to help others. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:14:02 Yeah. So, but no man, I'm glad you're safe with all that. Cuz now being from Kentucky, living in Texas, did you, was this your first tornado or have
Speaker 2 00:14:09 You seen it before? Oh no, man, my, I spent half my life in Missouri cuz that's where my mom's family's from. Okay. So yeah, I, I loved tornadoes because it just like, you're basically like camping out in the basement as a little kid and I've never seen like one actually like touchdown. So I remember I was, uh, I wasn't at my house but my uh, roommate was texting me. He was like, Hey man, like are we like, what the hell's going on? And I looked at the announcement and just said, tornado warning, it's like, that just means someone saw a funnel cloud, don't worry about it. And then 15 minutes later, hey, can you go into my closet, get that Martin and both of you all go into the basement, but before you do get my Martin.
Speaker 3 00:14:43 Yeah, yeah. For real.
Speaker 1 00:14:44 Geez. Yeah, dude, that was my first time I experienced a tornado and we were, I mean, we're well enough south of town where it didn't hit here, but still just hearing the sirens and then going up the next day to east and going to Hermitage and going, uh, we didn't make it out to Mount Julia, but dude, just crazy times man. So yeah. Anyway, on the positive stuff, <laugh> the ep man. Congrats on that dude.
Speaker 2 00:15:03 Thank you so much. 2020
Speaker 1 00:15:05 Kicking off the years strong, huh?
Speaker 2 00:15:07 Yes. Um, releasing an EP the day after the tornado hits <laugh> and trying to do an EP show the week of, uh, Corona has proven to be interesting. However, I'm super stoked about it. <laugh> Yeah. Dude, the EP said.
Speaker 1 00:15:23 Yeah, dude. So what was the process like of you getting in the studio and, and doing this thing? Dude,
Speaker 2 00:15:28 About a year and a half process, actually Ice came, uh, so William Stone's the mastermind behind this whole thing, he was the, uh, producer, uh, main co-writer through the whole thing, if you like. We don't have any tangible copies right now, but if you looked at the album liners, it'd be like music in lyrics, Sam Vargo, Williams Stone, and then like two or three other writers. And then instruments like Sam Vargo will stone bass drums, guitar vocals, uh, keys. And then, uh, Matt Cleon is a genius and he played pedal steel. So there's
Speaker 3 00:16:00 Some great pedal still on that
Speaker 1 00:16:01 Album. Dude. The pedal steel level. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:16:03 He is a god.
Speaker 1 00:16:04 Insane.
Speaker 2 00:16:05 Yes. He, Matt Cleven is one of the most amazing musicians I've ever met. Amazing guy. That record would not be the same with Al.
Speaker 3 00:16:11 That's something like, I wanna pick up his pedal still cuz Oh yeah. It's just those things to me just really pick at like my heartstrings. It
Speaker 2 00:16:19 It's the saddest, most beautiful badass instrument in the entire world. So we just knew from the get go we wanted that to be like a vein, like literally going through the entire project. Yeah. And it
Speaker 1 00:16:33 Is, oh
Speaker 2 00:16:33 Yeah. I mean I'm, I think next to like the vocal track that's the loudest voice on the record and I'm so okay with that. Yeah. So okay with that we literally just wanted to go in and do like, Hey, here's punk pop, but with a pedal steel.
Speaker 1 00:16:47 Yeah. That's the vibe that I, this is really cool. That's the vibe that we got from it. Cause it's hell yeah. It's, those lyrics really cut deep. Yeah. And like I
Speaker 2 00:16:55 You're emo af Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1 00:16:56 And I actually, on Saturday, my girlfriend broke up with me. So you got a lot of breakup songs on there. Like you got some like heavy.
Speaker 2 00:17:02 I wrote 'em for you dude.
Speaker 1 00:17:03 It like, honestly, I, we were jam there. I was like, oh, Tyler, look at this shit. Like, holy fuck. Yeah. And dude, it's not bad man. What a no dude. No dude. It's all, it's all good. But like, you can feel something with, with the songs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just what, just from the music side of it's the lyrical side of it. Just sonically. It's, it's, it's a cool ep. I wish you could do a whole fucking record. Honestly.
Speaker 2 00:17:24 I ho I hope I can't do Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:17:26 Like all like, I like, I like, like I wish there were even more songs than what's on there. Like, don't go in the now in this, in this age it's like singles and e singles and then eps and stuff. What made you want to go the EP route instead of just cutting all these singles?
Speaker 2 00:17:39 Because I didn't think I was gonna release it. Really? Yeah. So whenever we started this a year ago, it was literally a project for me cuz I wanted to figure out if, if I could and what would be my artist voice. And I got set up with my buddy William Stone, he becomes one of my best friends. We were drinking at the Fox and he was like, you wanna do a record? I was like, I do wanna do a record. He was like, and I just thought it was gonna be an experiment. So we sat down, uh, like a year and a half ago in summertime and we mapped out the whole project. Every single one of those six songs changed. And so we scrapped that project and then I ended up flying out to Los Angeles when he moved out there and we did this holy p minus two sessions afterwards in, uh, less than a week. Like it was five or six days. Um, so
Speaker 3 00:18:26 As somebody that's engineered and produced something like that, that is rough sledding.
Speaker 2 00:18:30 That is hard to do. It honestly was a fucking breeze. Really. Like record re tracking it Now, whenever we got into mixing, I was so nitpicky. Yeah. Like, I think that that poor son of a bitch man, he <laugh> he, we went through 10 mixes on every song and then we did 10 masters on every song. Yeah. So that's mean, shit. That's more than 60. Like, and
Speaker 3 00:18:56 It's, it's like final mix. Final mix one
Speaker 2 00:18:58 That makes fun. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:18:59 Swear. This is the final mix. This better be the final mix. This is the effing final mix. Maybe the final mix. I don't know what about this. Yeah. There's
Speaker 2 00:19:06 A point where I didn't wanna listen anymore. Yeah. Cause I didn't wanna find anything. But he, he was awesome and pushed me to keep on going. And I, I, there's, they're perfect. And as far as I'm concerned, like what we did, I I love all of them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:19:16 So with writing that ep, like obviously like his breakup songs and all, like, where were you at whenever you wrote those songs? Like
Speaker 2 00:19:22 Super bummed Out Man, <laugh> emo, uh, may Day's, A Straight Depression song. Like I never Left was Me being pissed off at My Hometown. Uh, when She Falls was Trippy. Yes. That's the one that's the one Trippy Out a little bit. Favorite one dude. Uh, I don't think a lot of my old, like older family members listen to this. So I'm at that point where I'm still like, do I tell the stories that like my little cousins might listen to? So when She falls was inspired by an acid trip and <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:19:57 I was, I had been getting these cues from the universe about like Bozeman, Bozeman, Montana, like I'd be getting cut off by trucks, Bozeman Montana, be meeting people in airports, Bozeman, Montana, be reading books. Bozeman, Bozeman, Bozeman. I'm like, I'll get there. Took Acid <laugh> and they, it was literally like at like, the trip was awful, nothing cool happened. And then the end of this trip ended with Bozeman, Montana. So I was like, well, fuck me, I'm going. And I booked a tour out there, uh, by myself and hell yeah, 2000 miles later, like, cause I didn't believe in epiphanies or any bullshits. Like, hey, this is, this is me going out there like to test my medal as an artist. Didn't think anything super special was gonna happen. Um, and weird shit keeps on happening. I'm, I'm in Du Bois, Wyoming with nobody around, and I'm sitting at a bar with like somebody from C M T and like a legendary roadie.
Speaker 2 00:20:51 I'm like, okay, I'm gonna keep on going. End up like, end up playing this like, nobody's at this bar. And he, this guy's telling me, like the author of the book that I read that started getting me out there, like gave his last interview in that booth. So I'm like, oh shit. And he's like, you need to go to, uh, highlight Canyon. I'm like, okay, I'll go to highlight Canyon next day. A huge, I mean, I did this in winter. He's like, that's why there was nobody there. I was like, dude, why the hell are you in Bozeman? No musicians come out here during your winters. Like, yeah, I'm on a vision quest, bro. And uh, the next day there's a huge blizzard, most snow I've ever seen in my entire life. Uh, like you step outside, you're up to your shins. I'm like, fuck it, I'm still going.
Speaker 2 00:21:28 Can't see the road, can't see anything. The only way I know my way up this fucking mountain is the tree line. And I get up to the single most beautiful cannon in the entire world, deafening silence. And it's still just a blizzard. And I just sit on a park bench in the middle of like this lake. Like, it literally looks like that place in X-Men, like where they have to like go break Wolverine out of Wow. Like, that's what this place looks like. Wow. Wow. And I stayed up there for about four hours just sitting down. And when I came off that mountain, I had all the answers to the universe, knew that everything was gonna be tight and was right. The verses hell
Speaker 1 00:22:02 Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Dude, that gives me goosebumps. So I,
Speaker 2 00:22:05 Dude, I fucking love that song,
Speaker 1 00:22:06 Man. Yeah, dude. It's sick. It's, it's incre. It's, it's incredible. Like, and the fact that there's that story behind it, dude. Like, it reminds you like blues brother. Like we're on a mission from God,
Speaker 2 00:22:15 We're on a mission from God. Yeah, exactly. That's what it's like, man. For sure. Dude.
Speaker 1 00:22:19 And then Sex and Whiskey going down, going down all the tracks. Now where did that one come from? Sex
Speaker 2 00:22:23 And Whiskey was just a road trip. Anthem, dude, that, that was just a fun co-write. I was having tacos with my, uh, co-writer on that one. Her name's Casey Velasquez. And I was either excruciatingly hungover or something, and I don't remember what was going on, but, uh, she, she like made some dig at me making fun of me. And I was just like, yeah, that's me from Sex and Whiskey. And she was like,
Speaker 1 00:22:48 Aw,
Speaker 2 00:22:49 Huh. I was like, okay. Yeah. And then the next day we wrote that one, it was Super Quick Write and that was my first single. Um, then one one's after that, uh, if you don't know, has a really beautiful story with it. My mom, uh, I told the story at the show whenever I first moved to Nashville, my mom would always be, uh, like trying to send me song ideas and I'd be like, god damn ideas. And so whenever that, whenever that didn't work, uh, she started like scripting them. So if I'd be like about ready to go back to Nashville, she'd be like, Hey, I wanna tell you something. If you wanna go fast, you have to go alone. I'm like, mom <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:23:29 Like
Speaker 2 00:23:30 Quit, quit trying to write. And um, after that I was, uh, I was seeing this one girl who was really starting to like, and uh, like, well my mom was like, well, have you told her yet? I was like, no, probably not gonna do that. Probably just bottle up inside until something happens. Like straight millennial tactic. And she's like, yeah, um, if you die tomorrow, the Tragedy's not gonna be that you didn't say it, but that she didn't get to hear it. I was like, there you go. There you go. That's what we've been looking for. And so that was on my way to her. Right. So we wrote that one. That's, that's if you don't know. And then, um, just to wrap this whole thing up, if um, a better word, uh, the last kind of, uh, the last one on the record was just, you know, is is my favorite room in Nashville with his, which is with, uh, William Stone, the producer. And Lauren Weintraub my favorite writer of all time. Oh dude.
Speaker 1 00:24:22 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:24:22 Yeah. And, uh, we just wanted to fuck people up that day. And Lauren brought in the idea, I think will, uh, tweaked it like just a second. And, uh, we were off to the races with that one and we didn't wanna do a full song cuz we were pressed for time. We're like, Hey bro, let's cop out, put a room back up, call it to work tape, call it day. So we did that maybe 15 minutes before I went to the airport. Wow. Just one take. Yeah. That's
Speaker 1 00:24:48 Awesome. Hey, so you talk about Lauren Troub. Dude,
Speaker 2 00:24:51 Do you wanna talk about her? Yeah, we can talk about Lauren. Oh, red dude, little red. Let's talk about Lauren Red.
Speaker 1 00:24:55 So how, so how so how'd you meet her?
Speaker 2 00:24:57 I met Lauren at around at Alley Taps my first like, month in town and instantly viscerally hated her
Speaker 1 00:25:06 <laugh> just because she's that
Speaker 2 00:25:08 Good. That principle of how good I was like, fuck you. Yeah, you serious. And then you find out, like at the time she, I think she was like 18 or 19, so I'm like, double fuck you, are you serious? And then, but we both really like the same type of music we're all about like, not pulling any punches and just really fucking people up. Yeah. So we right there with
Speaker 3 00:25:27 That. Yeah. Any artist?
Speaker 2 00:25:29 Oh yeah, dude. She's uh, she's gonna be ginormous, dude. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:33 My first time seeing her was, um, we used, we hang out at Bel Court taps quite a bit. Yeah, yeah. And, um, good buddies with a lot of the folks over there. And, um, SJ McDonald was one of the first people that got me going over there and she was like, you gotta come watch my friend Lauren. Yeah. And I was like, okay. So I showed up, I was just blown away, like, oh yeah, what the fuck? She'll
Speaker 2 00:25:50 Piss you off.
Speaker 1 00:25:51 Well, I, I don't sing or anything like that, so I just appreciate it, man. And it's, it's, it's, it's incredible. What, what kind of voicing come outta that little tiny ginger body.
Speaker 2 00:26:00 Absolutely, dude. And I gotta say it, it's like a, uh, you're breaking up
Speaker 1 00:26:04 Bojo breaking out bottle number two. Dude,
Speaker 3 00:26:07 Here we go. I mean, I didn't pour as heavy as I poured it for you, so
Speaker 2 00:26:11 I appreciate that. Um, no man, it's, it that's one of those people who I would just be like, stoked to be on a first name basis and drink with, but the fact that I get to write with her is
Speaker 1 00:26:20 Sick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. So, so who are some other people in town that you're kind of like your circle of, of people that you like to write with and that's and hang, have good times with? Or you ki you seem like the kind of guy that's like all you're, you've kind of got like a bunch of different circles cause like your influences and what you're into is like a little over the
Speaker 2 00:26:37 Place. My, my circle, if we're gonna talk about writing circles, my circles whenever I write for other people are, is much bigger than like, Hey, we're writing for like, me today. Yeah. Um, but I think my biggest blessing in town has been able to write with the people I respect and like love the most. Like, like I, I like people whose music I knew before I knew them. That's the coolest thing for me. Yeah. Like, to be, like, to be in the rooms with those people now. Um, William Stone, Lauren Weintraub, uh, Nicole Miller is a badass. Yes. She just dropped you all. Have you all had her on?
Speaker 1 00:27:14 We haven't had her on yet, dude. After
Speaker 2 00:27:15 This whole thing blows over, man, you all gotta get her in. Um, her new EP is absolute Fuego. Um, and then, uh, joy Beth Taylor is another right that I absolutely
Speaker 1 00:27:26 Loved her.
Speaker 3 00:27:27 Actually, our last episode was Joy Beth and, uh, hunter
Speaker 1 00:27:29 Girl. Hunter girl. Yeah. We had, we had them mine together. We cracked open a bottle of wine and we just had Beautiful. Had a good time with the ladies. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:27:34 That girl's so much fun. Yes. Yeah. Um, trying to think of who else. I, I really like, um, I think there's, it's all of them, right? Uh, my buddy, uh, Spencer Jordan is a really, really great pop writer. So he's like, any single time I have like a pop writer, I was like, like he's literally become a safety blanket. Like, Spencer, I need you on your like formalities, <laugh>. Um, and then, uh, Quint Collins is another great write that I really love. Me and him have been turning out some really, really cool stuff. Um, and then his mom, which I always joke, I wanna get a shirt that says I write with Quint Collins mom. Um, Robin Collins is an amazing, amazing writer. Hell yeah. Um, and then, uh, also get to write with Kayleigh Shore and she's so much funner I would do
Speaker 1 00:28:17 Dude, dude to wa again. We have, we have Kaylee's poster from Feb from, uh, Friday, April 7th of like 2016. I think That is, that's how long that, that's coming up on 40 years ago. And to see where, where she's gone and her style of just bringing those emo like nineties kid vibes Yeah. To, to the kind of the label of country music and seeing where her most recent project has gone. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's so cool to like, watch you guys really jumping outside the box of what, of people talking about boots and trucks and beer and this and that. Like talking about the real shit. It's so cool.
Speaker 2 00:28:50 Dude. I was talking to her about this because like, uh, Rob, so Will Stone Guy did my record and then Robin Collins are also heavy writers on, uh, will was on one, but Robin wrote a lot, uh, with her for her record open book. So whenever it came out I was like, oh,
Speaker 1 00:29:06 Super
Speaker 2 00:29:06 Cool, let's check this out. And I was like, this record is dope and I really like it. It was like, where the hell do you put this in country? So I like on that, on that premise, like, discarded it, like, as far as like the Nashville thing goes and it's like, like, where are you gonna put it? It's like right in the fucking top of New York Times. Like, I was like, that's where it fucking goes man.
Speaker 1 00:29:28 Yeah. It's gonna, it's gonna,
Speaker 2 00:29:29 It's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:30 People that enjoy music are just gonna enjoy it. Yeah. And again, it's just the lyrics and it's like talking about a chapter, chapter of her life. You know, you really find out a lot about just like, we find out a lot about you with your music. Yeah. Like, it's dope
Speaker 2 00:29:42 Dude that Yeah. Her, that record open book is just brave, edgy, and badass. I love it so much. I listen to it all the time.
Speaker 1 00:29:46 Brave, edgy, and bad. That's a big, that's a big thing. That's what people are starting to do more in this town. Seriously. You got, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:29:52 Yeah. So one of my, like, one of the guys that, like me and Matt, whenever we were listening to you obviously said like Rusting Kelly. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, somebody else who remind me though of is another Austin based guy that I love. Matt doesn't really know of him, but I'm, he's about to release a new album and I'm really anticipating it. Uh, David Ramirez. Do you ever listen to him?
Speaker 2 00:30:11 Fuck no. That's gonna change today. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:30:14 Yeah. On the Way Home, dude. Yeah. Uh, fables that album. He's like a guy that's just like, you know, David, the first time I saw him was at, um, what's the one that's above Cannery High? Wat Yes. The High Wat First time I ever saw him was at the High Wa it was two and a half hours of him and his acoustic guitar. Okay. And that was it
Speaker 2 00:30:39 Dude.
Speaker 3 00:30:40 And he live recorded the whole thing and then sent it to you in the way that he did his fan base, which was at the time, this was like 2016, 2017. So at the time this was like revolutionary kind of thing. Um, he called it the Mix Tape tour.
Speaker 2 00:30:57 I've heard of this.
Speaker 3 00:30:58 Yeah. So he like basically set up a site that like you could say, Hey, I have Nashville's like mix tape. Like I have his show. That's fucking genius. I want the one from Charlotte, North Carolina, or I want the one from Austin, or I want the one from, you know, Montana or wherever he went. He did like 70 dates on this tour.
Speaker 2 00:31:19 How did he, how did he give it to him?
Speaker 3 00:31:20 Mp3. He dropboxed it to you. He got your email. Fuck. So he got your email. This, you're gonna love this advertising. He got your email, you got the show. And he connected his fan base.
Speaker 1 00:31:33 So now it's just a network
Speaker 3 00:31:34 For $15 a ticket. <laugh>. It was one of those things where I, I had just gotten into him. Like I'd just discovered him, but I was like, fuck it, it's $15. If he sucks, it's $15. Oh, well
Speaker 2 00:31:46 I need you to take this off of the podcast. So whenever I do this, people realize I I don't think I steal it. <laugh>. Cause that's so brilliant.
Speaker 1 00:31:52 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah, dude. No, it's, it's, it's an organic, like, grassroots
Speaker 3 00:31:56 Way. But here's the thing though that was really brilliant about this is he was about to go record a new album. He knew it.
Speaker 2 00:32:03 Okay.
Speaker 3 00:32:03 And like, dude, there was like six or seven songs. I was like, I gotta have that song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I kept searching, kept searching, and the only players I could find out was the files that I had. Okay. And like, he started off the song with this one, it's called Telephone Lover. It's on his new album. Um, we're not going anywhere or watching From the Distance. I forget. It's, it's one of those names. Um, but it's called Telephone Lover. And it's like talking about like loving somebody that like lives over in London and like bringing them back to the States and like, you know, the LA Yeah. Yeah. One of the last lines is like, you know, if they really care about you, they'll call mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like they'll call if they care about you. And like, it was just like one of those things where I was like, at the time I was dealing with a breakup or about to deal with a breakup of a girl that I knew was going to Ireland at the time.
Speaker 3 00:32:54 <affirmative> for grad school. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And we had been dating for over a year and like it was just kind of tearing me apart and that song just like ripped open all the wounds and like, you know, it just made me really deal with it. But then a year later he released it on the album and I was like, that's why I couldn't find it. So he was testing and every night was like different sets. So he played songs that he might have only played one time and he was testing his new market to see how it's
Speaker 2 00:33:20 Brilliant. It's like you pull off beta testing on a grassroots level. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. Yeah. You just beta tested your entire audience and they thought you were just being like, wholesome. That's fucking insane. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:33:30 And it was one of those things where the packed room and everybody, like, it's the, like Matt and I can attest to this at the writers, I'm like, people talk in Nashville. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I went to him, it was a full band show. Yeah. And there was some dude that I know from Guitar Center that was talking the whole time and I went in the next time and I asked him for my money back cuz he was being a fucking asshole. <laugh> he was literally like talking so loud that you couldn't under like Yeah. He was talking over the band playing in, uh, what's the other room up there? It's not high, high.
Speaker 2 00:33:56 Can mer Mercy.
Speaker 1 00:33:57 Mercy, mercy,
Speaker 2 00:33:58 Mercy.
Speaker 3 00:33:58 Boom. There we go. Back to it. Yeah. So he was in Mercy that time playing full band and he was talking over the band playing like you could hear him and he was like five rows back people. What a jab. Brownie. Yeah. So like fucking
Speaker 1 00:34:08 Jabon,
Speaker 3 00:34:09 Man. It's the next time I, you know, it was like that type of thing. But like Yeah. Um, it was brilliant, but
Speaker 2 00:34:15 That's really fucking smart. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:34:17 Really
Speaker 2 00:34:17 Fucking
Speaker 3 00:34:18 Smart. But oh, what I was saying though, sorry I lost my train. <laugh> lost my train of thought.
Speaker 1 00:34:21 All we're, we're on glass number two. It's okay. But
Speaker 3 00:34:23 Yeah, no, we're good talking Coronavirus
Speaker 1 00:34:28 St. Patty's Day man. St Patty's Day quarantine
Speaker 3 00:34:29 St. Patty's Day Coronavirus quarantine. I was
Speaker 2 00:34:32 Supposed to be wearing a kilt today.
Speaker 1 00:34:33 Yeah, I know. I wanted to get into that because being from up North St Patty's day week, I got a lot of buddies that are like O'Neills and O'Fallon mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Cummings and Hang O'Brien's and Hangy and all these fucking mick bastards. And they love wearing their like St. Patty's Day. It's a two weekend holiday where everybody's just in fucking kilts and Yeah. The bagpipes get me going. You could ask, you could ask my roommates. Oh yeah. Like, I'll wake up sometimes and the first thing I'll play is I drop kick Murphy's playing like cadence to the arms or something. I the bagpipes. Just get me going.
Speaker 2 00:35:02 I'll make a statement. I came up with this right now, but I'll wanna make like this pro proclamation bagpipes are the pedal steel of Europe.
Speaker 1 00:35:13 Yes. Yeah. I, and I, and I've been making the joke to, to a lot of buddies that, that like bagpipes for me up north is like the fiddle down. Like we just love them. We, if we put bagpipes in anything and everything, if Biggie Smalls somehow help, they're put a bag bagpipes in a biggie. Smalls mixtape. I, I fucking love it from
Speaker 3 00:35:29 New York. So I went to Boston, uh, last fall for just, uh, we were like six weeks on the road, we were finally taking the weekend off mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it was like six weeks of like three day weekends. Like long ass trips, like all this kind of stuff. So I was like, you know what, like I got a little bit of money ahead. Like, I'm just gonna go to Boston. I wanted to go. So I like planned the trip and got to eat like lunch one day in the mur in the bar. That, uh, job kick Murphy's like fucking
Speaker 2 00:35:53 A
Speaker 3 00:35:53 Got huge in. But they,
Speaker 1 00:35:55 It's a tiny little bar, isn't it? It's
Speaker 3 00:35:57 Crazy. Yeah. It, it's a little hole in the wall. It's actually America's first sports bar.
Speaker 2 00:36:01 I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Bagpipes
Speaker 3 00:36:03 Dude. But I walked outside and there was people just walking down the street playing bagpipes and I was like, what's going on?
Speaker 2 00:36:07 Well, it's the most interesting thing in the world cuz here's this, like, how the fuck do you make a bag? Like, used to be like, what is it? Like a it's up as like, as a like a spleen or a sack of an animal. Yeah. Yeah. But there's something weird about,
Speaker 3 00:36:17 You have to fill it up with air.
Speaker 2 00:36:18 Yeah. Like a man in a kilt with this really weird ass fucking instrument. But something like, as soon as you see a guy with a back pipe, that guy's gonna fuck something up. Yeah. Or people around him are gonna fuck something up. It is not a docile instrument. No, no,
Speaker 1 00:36:33 Not at all.
Speaker 3 00:36:34 Not at all. One of my old baseball coaches actually in like Summer league was a bagpipe player for funerals. For like,
Speaker 2 00:36:41 Uh, well in that regard it's a docile instrument. I apologize.
Speaker 3 00:36:43 Yes, yes. <laugh>. But he was like, he was like the guy that would go play at like military funerals and he was like, that's really cool. Yeah. Marine and like all this kind of stuff. So like, very, very cool. He would also fuck shit up if it had to, you know,
Speaker 1 00:36:53 <laugh>. Yeah, man. So, so some other, some, some, uh, so for your influences, yeah. It seems like they're, they're kind of like all over the place. I'm anticipating you're a big like, eighties rock guy, like power riffs and stuff kind
Speaker 2 00:37:05 Of. So, um, I definitely, I have to have the riffs, like there has to be dynamics in it, which is so funny that I got into like the singer songwriter thing. Sorry if I'm not talking about enough. Um, no, you're
Speaker 1 00:37:14 Fine bud.
Speaker 2 00:37:15 So I got into music, like, it was like, Hey, I, I love music. I want to be involved in learning and stuff from ac dc so instantly riff driven, but the stuff that I was like always fed as a kid was very, very singer songwriter stuff. Okay. Um, so my favorite band of all times is Guns N Roses, but that's not like where I pull my stuff from. So like my influences, if I had to like my biggest like Jackson Brown, my dad knew exactly what he was doing whenever he was playing me that as a kid. Jackson Brown's solo acoustic record changed my life. Um, and then since his Fail, which is like a straight emo punk band. Yeah. That was the band that taught. I was like, Hey, I'm gonna write music now. And then Mayday Parade was like that had a album lesson and Romantics, which was insane. Uh, that's like a masterclass in writing. That's where you get like my kind of like, um, pithy, emo sad boy one-liners. Um, and then I gotta be honest, Russ Rustin is a huge influence. I got to meet Rustin whenever the day his album came out was at a show at Grimy Fanboy super hard.
Speaker 3 00:38:24 I wanted to go to that so bad man. I had tickets dude. And I was dating a girl at the time that like, just kept complaining about having to stand the whole time. Yeah. And eventually led me not going which terrible freaking hate. And we broke up soon after. But anyways,
Speaker 2 00:38:37 Whatever. Yeah. You can see me in all the videos. So he really, you were right there. He recorded all of them. And then I'm, I'm just like staring him down the entire time. But I think, um, I don't mind when people say I sound like him. Like I listen to that album so much. Like I'm, it's, it's bound to happen. But for me personally, what Rustin did for me in town was he made this town make sense to me. After I heard that record, I quit chasing and I quit trying to sound country cuz I was like, this motherfucker can like do some emo shit, then I'll be god damn if I don't start doing some email shit. Cause i's
Speaker 3 00:39:08 Him you, his newest one where he like went fully mo on it.
Speaker 2 00:39:11 Um, I think that's dope. I think it's awesome what he did. I only have one complaint about that record is like, I really want him to hit the high note on, uh, Elena. Yeah. And he kept it pretty low five, which is sick, but his new record's gonna smash. It's gonna be awesome. But then, um, one of the biggest gifts this town, uh, gave to me was, um, just knowledge of who Jason Isbell is. No. Knowing who that cat is, I mean, oh yeah. I I I'm gonna confess something y'all right now. I never listened to Southeastern all the way through until 2018.
Speaker 3 00:39:47 Wow. I mean, I didn't, I'll be honest, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 00:39:50 So like, it's Dicks,
Speaker 3 00:39:53 I I came into him not in Southeastern, but the next album. Okay. Uh, nothing more than Free.
Speaker 2 00:39:57 Yeah. Oh, also fantastic.
Speaker 3 00:39:58 Yeah. I came into him. Honestly, my, the song that got me in was Speed Trap Down. Man,
Speaker 2 00:40:04 Dude, dude. Other than like Cover Me Up. But as soon as I heard Speed Trapp, I was like,
Speaker 3 00:40:07 Well, like it was on a playlist that I was listening to. Like, I think it was Spotify, like Daily Mix and it came into Speed, Trapp Town. And dude, like, I just, I literally sat there and like played that song over and over and I was like, who is this guy? And that started
Speaker 2 00:40:20 Finding when the Girl was a Mama causes heart attack. Fuck
Speaker 3 00:40:23 Me. Yeah, dude. And uh, when that still comes in,
Speaker 2 00:40:27 Oh Outta nowhere that man
Speaker 3 00:40:29 Dude, dude, dude. Yeah. So I've seen him 10 times now at the Ryman.
Speaker 2 00:40:34 Really?
Speaker 3 00:40:35 That year that he fed Year his nuts. I found him. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I went to every show that year at the Ryman.
Speaker 2 00:40:41 Well he has my favorite guitar story of all time now. So do y'all know about like Red Eye? Yep. Okay, so
Speaker 3 00:40:46 Egg Kings Les Ball 59 Les Ball.
Speaker 2 00:40:48 I'm a nerd. Like, so the things like, I will not
Speaker 3 00:40:51 Pretend, Matt, you messed up getting me and him in a room. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 00:40:54 I was like seriously? Like I will, I can talk about bourbon guitars like for forever. Um, but dude,
Speaker 3 00:41:00 It's gonna be a four hour podcast now. Sorry.
Speaker 2 00:41:02 Yeah. Basically they, uh, but have you heard this story? No. Okay. So, uh, ed King passes away. Carter's uh, his wife gives the collection to Carter's. Um, they bring uh, Jason into quote unquote demo some guitars. Yeah. He gets his hands on Red Eye and he's like those bastards, like they're trying to sell me this thing. So I had some, I knew somebody who was in the store when this was whole, this whole thing was going down. He starts like pacing around the store and what he was doing was he, he called his accountant and I was like, and he's like, no you can't, you can't fucking buy that guitar. You, you have no way of doing that. Yeah. He's like, he's like, okay, fine. I won't buy it. Hung up. Called his manager. I need 20 celebrity birthday parties this year. <laugh> and bought Red Eye for a rumored $750,000. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:41:46 Geez.
Speaker 1 00:41:47 750,000.
Speaker 3 00:41:48 Well, like you gotta think like a 59 list. Paul is like
Speaker 2 00:41:51 On principle six
Speaker 3 00:41:52 Figures. Yes. On a 59 West Paul, A 57 Strat and a 52 Telecaster or no caster. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> or Broadcaster cuz it went by a few different names. But if you could find one of those guitars for sell, you're gonna pay for a no caster broadcaster, you're gonna pay at least like what? Probably 40 to 60. Yep. Yeah. For a like 57 strike. You're gonna play about the same. They just don't hold the value that they mm-hmm <affirmative> 59 Les Paul is like, that's the guitar that Jimmy Page plays. That's the guitar. Clapton Clapton.
Speaker 1 00:42:25 Okay. So this is a guitar that's got to
Speaker 2 00:42:26 History.
Speaker 3 00:42:27 This is like the mecca of guitars.
Speaker 1 00:42:30 Okay.
Speaker 2 00:42:31 Yeah. It's what it's what Gibson's been chasing since then. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 00:42:35 Like, think about it, it's what now? 61 years later and they are still chasing, trying to get that same guitar
Speaker 2 00:42:43 And they've never been closer. The the 60th anniversary Les Paul's that they're doing from the custom shop right now are absolutely fucking brilliant. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:42:51 Yeah. But no like, yeah. Uh, I think I've seen a 59 Les Paul that wasn't tied to anybody. It was just like a closet collector.
Speaker 2 00:42:59 $350,000.
Speaker 3 00:43:00 I saw it for 120. Okay. But this was like also like 2012, 2015 that era
Speaker 2 00:43:06 Coronavirus had yet to strike. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:43:08 <laugh>. Yeah, dude. Like
Speaker 1 00:43:10 Damn, that's, they are just,
Speaker 3 00:43:11 That's awesome. It's kind of like the same thing with, uh, God, what's the amp company? Uh, Marshall Mayor plays 'em.
Speaker 2 00:43:20 Oh, you talking about like the Rumble Dumble
Speaker 3 00:43:23 BLEs, yeah. Dumbs. The Dumble overdrive. They've got one actually sitting at Carter's that is a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 00:43:30 Damn.
Speaker 3 00:43:30 And they, they demand that.
Speaker 1 00:43:33 No, we're Oh, I mean it's um, the, the gear stuff, dude, and I've, I've started to see it again coming from like a radio background. All I need to worry about was a damn microphone. So like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 3 00:43:41 Guys and now he bought a good one.
Speaker 1 00:43:42 Now I bought a good one. They call this one the donkey dick. It's like an re 20 or something.
Speaker 3 00:43:46 Yeah, that's the cheap re 20.
Speaker 1 00:43:48 Yeah. So, but now I got a donkey dick that I get to talk into. Tyler was like, you Tyler's the one that ordered it for me. And he was like, I'm ordering you the donkey dick. And I'm like, nice
Speaker 3 00:43:57 Mans cuz you're an ass
Speaker 2 00:43:59 <laugh>. Well boom,
Speaker 1 00:44:01 Pop out. Hey, are you, are you on Twitter at all?
Speaker 2 00:44:04 Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 00:44:05 No. Aw,
Speaker 2 00:44:06 Absolutely not. No. I
Speaker 3 00:44:06 Really had fun.
Speaker 2 00:44:08 Anything bad that's ever happened to any dude ever has gone down on Twitter <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:44:13 So you, so you've never had it?
Speaker 2 00:44:15 I just, I I don't feel as, um, political or like have like enough opinions to be on Twitter. Okay. I'm just teasing. It's like, um, I just dunno what I'd say. I'd just be like, have you heard that story about Jason Isabel's 59 <laugh>? Um,
Speaker 3 00:44:33 See what my last tweet was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:34 Cause what we usually do is we, so we've, Tyler's got a few Twitter troll accounts
Speaker 3 00:44:38 I tweeted yesterday. I thought, oh,
Speaker 1 00:44:39 He goes
Speaker 3 00:44:39 After, oh, I tweeted a good one
Speaker 1 00:44:40 Yesterday. He, he goes after, he goes after people on, on this, on this troll
Speaker 3 00:44:44 Account. This is, this is my personal account. Oh. So personal one. This is something that people can go follow at Tyler Oard 5 41 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:44:51 Geez,
Speaker 3 00:44:52 This is a good account. It's gonna be funny to go back to college in 15 to 20 years to finally finish my degree and hear all the kids study this time in our history. Hashtag Corona 2020.
Speaker 2 00:45:04 Love it.
Speaker 1 00:45:05 Fuck dude. Yeah, people.
Speaker 3 00:45:06 Cause like I, I, I was going for a business degree. I've got like 148 hours. I man need like six classes to graduate. But like I'm doing what I love. So of course dude. And I'm also not paying out of pocket for college anymore.
Speaker 2 00:45:17 Right.
Speaker 3 00:45:18 So
Speaker 1 00:45:18 Yeah. What was ut like, what's UT Austin like? Cause we, I wanna be completely honest cause we play a lot of colleges.
Speaker 3 00:45:24 That's the main UT campus, right? Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:45:25 That's, that's hook him like
Speaker 2 00:45:27 Orange. That's hook him. Matthew McConaughey all the burn orange.
Speaker 1 00:45:30 Did you ever see Matthew MCC McConaughey
Speaker 3 00:45:31 While you were there? Let's talk about Matthew MCC McConaughey real
Speaker 2 00:45:34 Quick Smoke pot with Matthew Mahan. I'm kidding. I
Speaker 1 00:45:36 Was gonna say high five, bro.
Speaker 2 00:45:39 Me, Johnny Hopkins and Matthew McConaughey replace that shit up every night.
Speaker 1 00:45:45 Oh no,
Speaker 2 00:45:46 He was everywhere. So this was before he became an official ambassador and professor. Uh, and you know, uh,
Speaker 3 00:45:51 He's also an ambassador of Wild Turkey. Yes he
Speaker 2 00:45:54 Is. Hey math. Um, but no, he, he was always at every single game you could always see the uh, you know, the lounges or the, the suites and stuff and just what a spirit
Speaker 1 00:46:07 <laugh> Chuck Spirit just staring that bottle while Turkey down, man. Yeah. Damn dude. Yeah. No, that does, that does look, that does look delicious.
Speaker 2 00:46:17 Um, no, Austen, Austen was sick. Um, I'm, I, it took me a long time to really think of music and education the same way. Cuz I always saw it as two separate paths. Like it was either like, hey, there's school and then there's music. It didn't strike me until I got to this town, despite how many times people told me to go to Belmont or go to school for music. It was like, I always thought that was something like different, like I was either gonna go to school to get a good job or I was gonna go, you know, plan my band with in a van, like, for as long as it took. Um, so I went to school and was super into school. Like I wanted to become the most badass, like advertiser in the entire world and did a bang up job of it.
Speaker 2 00:46:59 Man. I, you know, got to work some great internships, some great jobs. Uh, you know, what I did in Austin landed me at Jack Daniels. It was great. Uh, Jack Daniels got me to, you know, Nashville. Um, but there wasn't a lot of music going on in Austin until my last year there when I started writing for a record. Um, so it was always completely different. But now, whenever I'm looking at, like, the stuff, whenever I'm releasing songs, and I wouldn't say like I'm a master at it, but I definitely, I'd say I'd like independently know how to release a single pretty well in all of that. Especially what I do around town is all because of like creative thinking. Like in advertising. Like, I, I might say I'm a better music marketer than I'm a musician. Like, I, I would go ahead and say that for sure,
Speaker 1 00:47:45 But, but that helps you out so much with getting, getting stuff out there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like you, there's a lot of people that all they know is picking guitar or all they know is this. They don't understand that other side of things.
Speaker 2 00:47:55 Oh, that's just so much more authentic though.
Speaker 1 00:47:57 <laugh>. Yeah. No, no, but no, but I mean, I mean, it is, but like, it, it helps you when, you know, when you know how to get your stuff out there to people like that, that's a huge thing to help you.
Speaker 2 00:48:07 Well, I think it's so funny, like, uh, it sounds so not contrived, but it sounds, uh, so manning, like businessy to talk about music this way, but it's like if you release music with, without really, really thinking about that type of stuff, it's like going out and, you know, buying the bullets without the gun. So like my like, kind of rule of thumb for releasing music now is, you know, get into the studio with the best people you can, you know, for as little money as possible. Because whatever you're gonna spend on a song, you need to be ready to double for what you're gonna do. You know, when it comes to releasing that guy. And also, you know, you're, the follow up on that has is, is all you until you have people working for you. So as soon as you release a single, you need to be ready to put four to six solid weeks of pimping that right now. I know that's, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 00:49:01 I know, like, whenever I was like, first moved to town, it was probably the first like four weeks I was in town. We got, I'm not gonna name names, but we got pulled over to a, uh, very prolific Christian. I came up in the Christian world mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I, um, know that more I guess. But I got pulled over to a very prolific Christian writer's house mm-hmm. <affirmative> for a barbecue, which was great. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 00:49:26 Fucking love a barbecue.
Speaker 3 00:49:27 But at one point in the night she sat the piano and she said, I'm gonna be real with y'all. If you wanna get a song that's gonna be as big as anything I've written with the songs that I've had cut mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's gonna cost you $50,000 in studio time, it's gonna cost you at least a hundred thousand dollars in radio
Speaker 2 00:49:51 Gross.
Speaker 1 00:49:51 Yeah. Which is just crazy. Which is why I love the way that, the end that it's working now with mm-hmm. <affirmative> where people, you don't need all that, like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like now the, the accessibility to music. We've never had this much accessibility to
Speaker 3 00:50:02 Once again, people's
Speaker 1 00:50:03 Stuff. Once
Speaker 3 00:50:03 This was 2013.
Speaker 1 00:50:08 Fuck yeah. So seven, yeah. Seven years ago. Yeah. Now 90.
Speaker 3 00:50:12 And now look where we came in seven years of tour where I have a rig right here where I can record and master off of.
Speaker 2 00:50:19 Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:50:20 For a pretty good quality, uh,
Speaker 2 00:50:24 Ep I'm a strong believer that Nashville needs to switch over to the rap business model as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 00:50:30 I got into that for a little
Speaker 1 00:50:31 Bit with SoundCloud and things like that.
Speaker 2 00:50:34 Okay. I am not an authority on this, but this is what I, God, this is like what bourbon like,
Speaker 1 00:50:39 Yeah, no, no, it's all good buddy. No, it's all good. It's,
Speaker 2 00:50:42 As far as I know Take an A-list. Uh, country singer. I think the number I heard is like to get them to show up an a-list country singer just so is like 30 to $50,000. Like
Speaker 3 00:50:57 It's, oh, that's, that's minimum.
Speaker 2 00:50:59 Say say Dirks, right? Yeah. Like for Dirks would be up, there's probably like $40,000 minimum, right? Your like SoundCloud rapper who's just now popping off $50,000 to show up. Can you imagine like just now like getting like a single like out Nashville that like, ha hits a million streams and all of a sudden you're like, I want $50,000 to come to your party. Yeah. But like the, the infrastructure's completely different. Like, we're still clutching onto the cash cow of radio. Yeah. Meanwhile, like it, I don't know. I just feel as though it's time for real change. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:51:36 No, and dude, I'm with you. And again, I came up in the, the radio circuit. Yeah. Like that's what I, that's what I wanted to do and what I did. And now you see what, like, what happened with iHeart, they just laid off like 1100 people, like Yeah. Two months ago. Like the whole structure of everything is just changing. So
Speaker 2 00:51:50 How long are you gonna be on the sinking ship
Speaker 1 00:51:52 Man? Yeah, exactly. So it's exactly, it's just crazy. But,
Speaker 3 00:51:54 And it's gonna be, it's gonna be very interesting in the next year to three years, I think. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> of like what takes change and how we are like progressing as a music industry now that streaming, um, even the guys that we're with mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I think we have, what's our number at today?
Speaker 1 00:52:12 It's like a ridiculous number of streaming, like close to, close to like a million monthly listeners. And there's not a single drop of radio play. Exactly. A single drop or a record label. That's no bullshit label bullshit. No record label, no radio play, but it's sewing. You don't need it. You can sell out venues in fucking Chicago. You can put 600 people in Wichita, Kansas and you're, you're, you're a freaking indie duo Yeah. From Asheville. Like, you don't need this, this monster conglomerate. You don't need the man anymore. You can do it yourself.
Speaker 2 00:52:38 You're exactly right. I mean it's, uh, it's especially cuz Nashville is such a community and we're all here chasing the same thing that it kind of puts us all on the same like hierarchy, right? So we all wanna celebrate each other and we want everybody to get record deals. But if we really had like more Tyler Childers more like Chance the rapper country artist more
Speaker 3 00:52:55 Jason Isabel,
Speaker 2 00:52:55 I think, dude, you know? Right.
Speaker 1 00:52:58 Yeah. Yeah. It'd be cool dude. I I would, I'd totally be
Speaker 3 00:53:01 Bad for child's another guy I love. I have yet to see him live. But like he, he, it's only because I've been out of town every time he's come to town
Speaker 2 00:53:10 And he doesn't come in Nashville that much. He doesn't have to,
Speaker 3 00:53:13 I wanna go see him in Kentucky.
Speaker 2 00:53:15 Oh dude, that'd be rowdy as hell. So every, so every single time I go to see him here, it's always with a whole bunch of people from Eastern Kentucky and it's the most fun shit in the entire world. Oh yeah. They all show up in their overalls. They bring like their homemade moonshine, which is like sitting at 150 proof, which makes Jimmy Russell's shit look like baby juice. You know what I'm saying? Oh this is uh, no offense Jimmy. Yeah. Sitting at like what? One ten one oh one one oh one and oh they just get you sauce. But they're so excited cuz they all knew Tyler, like my buddy like used to pay Tyler a bottle of kg which if you don't know, it's just like rot gut $6, 1 75 whiskey and like a pack of cigarettes to sit at his like frat parties and just jam on the porch. Cause he is like,
Speaker 3 00:53:55 Dude, that's when I wanted to see him too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:53:57 That's the element I wanted to see. See that guy
Speaker 3 00:53:59 Like I've been in a Tyler for like years now. Oh yeah man. Like it's one of those things where like I found out of him very early on and uh, yeah that would've been, that would've been the days to see him too. Yeah. Uh, he's now on the tour of Sturgill actually. They're coming up in uh, may to Bridgestone hopeful
Speaker 2 00:54:17 That shit gets canceled. Hopefully. Hopefully. I'll see that's shown a hazmat suit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:54:21 Have you, yeah. Have you, how are you with like booking and stuff with going out? Are you out gigging quite a bit now or like No were you or like what's that been like your gigs affected?
Speaker 2 00:54:30 I was looking at the biggest show I'd probably played as Sam Varga. It had my hometown release show and I got this venue and it was like, like I think it's like 2 50, 300 cap and I was getting worried about it cause I thought it was gonna get shut down. Not cuz of Coronavirus but cuz we oversold it and I was like, oh this is gonna be fucking sick. And then I was like, I'm gonna have to fucking cancel this cuz people are sick <laugh>. Um, so I'm trying to reschedule it right now. But yeah, that, that one stung. Um, it remains to be seen if I should have done the EP release show, but we did it anyway and it was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 00:55:09 I mean all I'm saying is
Speaker 2 00:55:10 No fall out from there since then. We had a lot of booze so I feel as everything was mostly sterile. Yeah. I lys sold the place out.
Speaker 1 00:55:17 Hey
Speaker 2 00:55:18 You come on. Gimme something for
Speaker 3 00:55:20 That. That was good. All you gotta have to do is have like 120 proof of whiskey and you're good.
Speaker 2 00:55:25 That's what I'm saying. I was telling everybody cuz um,
Speaker 3 00:55:27 I've got like three bottles at home actually. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:55:29 Like if you wanna make your own's not good. Uh, hand sanitizer like, cuz like hand sanitizer's gone and then the ingredients for hand sanitizer are gone. All you need is some aloe vera and some Everclear <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:55:39 Yes. Oh yeah. No, very, very
Speaker 3 00:55:41 Good. I have a bottle of Everclear at home actually. Very, very good.
Speaker 2 00:55:43 Yourself? We used to put Everclear in a bottle of sky vodka. Wow. Because girls, girls in college would always come over to our place to pregame and they'd always just break into our good liquor. So we put all the good liquor right out front and we put Everclear in everything. So if you went for a bottle that you didn't ask for, fucking God. Everclear <laugh>. So
Speaker 1 00:56:05 Yeah. <laugh> don't touch our shit.
Speaker 3 00:56:07 So one, one quick side note. Yeah. Yeah. There's this thing, the first time I graduated college I graduated with a worship and theology degree. Oh
Speaker 2 00:56:17 Fuck yeah man.
Speaker 3 00:56:18 Yeah dude. So you know, the most Christian thing. But that night I had some friends that wanted a party. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I was like, yeah, I'll come over to your house. Well they made something, they called jet fuel.
Speaker 2 00:56:31 I'm already in
Speaker 3 00:56:33 <laugh>. Are you? This is back when you
Speaker 2 00:56:35 Got you walking on water afterwards. This
Speaker 3 00:56:37 Was uh, something like that. This is back whenever, uh, wild Turkey. 1 51 was still legal.
Speaker 2 00:56:46 Thought that was Wild Turkey had a 1 51. I thought that was Bacardi.
Speaker 3 00:56:49 No. Wild Turkey had one for a little bit. Oh, we should go back and somebody died.
Speaker 2 00:56:53 We should go back.
Speaker 3 00:56:55 So Wild Turkey 1 51. Okay. Ever clear. And a uh, rum. We had just had Captain Morgan. It's like the strongest Captain Morgans they make. So you take those three and equally split them a third into a red solo cup.
Speaker 1 00:57:12 Yeah, that sounds like jet fuel. That sounds like Definitely. I level had two of those
Speaker 3 00:57:17 In two and a half hours.
Speaker 2 00:57:19 Oh. Turning into a fucking dragon. Dude, you could like a
Speaker 3 00:57:21 Breath on fire.
Speaker 2 00:57:22 Dude. I
Speaker 3 00:57:22 Was sitting <laugh>, I was sitting on an ottoman in their house and I like leaned forward a little bit and just kept going and
Speaker 2 00:57:30 Falling and falling face. Planted and
Speaker 3 00:57:32 Falling dude. And then crawled to bed and that was the like second and third time I was ever drunk.
Speaker 1 00:57:37 Yeah, that's that's pretty, that's pretty wild dude. But
Speaker 3 00:57:40 Still wasn't hungover though.
Speaker 1 00:57:41 Yeah man. So for the rest of 2020 now it's, it's crazy. Like we don't know what the future holds, but what were your your plans for this year in terms of music and stuff?
Speaker 2 00:57:52 Uh, <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:57:55 <laugh> or is it pretty much Jim or is it pretty much Jim? Jim go check out the EP right now. I
Speaker 2 00:58:00 Hadn't, I hadn't gotten past the EP <laugh>. Yeah. So it's definitely like a what do I do now? Yeah. Um, no, I'm gonna pimp that for a really long time. I really wanna get some more one-offs. Cause I'm at the point now where if you're, if you're looking at it from an economic standpoint is, you know, touring is really, really expensive. Yes. Um, so am I gonna put stuff and I wanna get out and play. I wanna, you know, definitely like do this shit like for real. Cause as soon as I'm like, if I'm not hustling in a van or like going out and playing shows, I'll always kind of feel like a kid like borderline poser cuz there's like, that's how all my heroes went out and did it was like with a band and their friends. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just, whenever you're not like in a high school band with all your buddies splitting the cost, it gets expensive cuz you know, Nashville, you know, musicians have to eat.
Speaker 2 00:58:44 Um, but then, so I'm trying to think if I'm gonna put money into like one offs and doing a little tour this summer, or if I'm just gonna have to like hunker down in Nash and wrap my ass off again for the next project and put some, you know, money into like, doing some digital stuff, like music videos. Yeah. Um, I just wanna get better, man. I need to get better at my instrument. I need to, I'm always trying to get better at writing. Um, I, I wanna kind of start writing for full length. Um, you know, whenever I first came to town I really wanted a publishing deal. I really wanted a, a record label and stuff. And now my just, just want money <laugh>. Yeah. So whatever I need to do, like no gigging out and stuff. So, um, that's kind of what I'm looking at it from now. It's, it's not chasing the arbitrary stuff as much as same just, I I want to, I wanna be good. I I want the songs to be really good. I I want to, you know, learn my instruments better. Uh, you know, so kind of just hunkering into the groove. You know, I'm, I plan on doing this for my entire life. So Yeah. I
Speaker 1 00:59:44 I think you definitely can. Yeah. You got, you got some. You're
Speaker 2 00:59:46 A talent. Oh, thanks
Speaker 1 00:59:47 Man. You're a talented motherfucker, dude. Thank you. You're, you're a talented motherfucker dude,
Speaker 2 00:59:50 So I appreciate it,
Speaker 1 00:59:51 Man. Yeah, man, it's, it's been an absolute blast having you man. We Oh fuck
Speaker 2 00:59:54 You. Yeah man, I could do this all day.
Speaker 1 00:59:55 We've had, we've had a pleasure doing this dude. And um, so where do people go to find you and find your stuff? You
Speaker 2 01:00:00 Can find me anywhere, uh, I guess except for Twitter <laugh>. Um, but it's, uh, dang, uh, Instagram, Sam Varga music. Same thing on Facebook. Uh, there's gonna be a shit ton more YouTube stuff coming out, but I already got some stuff up there. Uh, Spotify stream the hell out of that new ep,
Speaker 1 01:00:15 Dude. I do it. Like seriously go out there. Yeah. For real. If y'all haven't checked it out, light me up. It is. It, it's been lighting us up. Seriously, man. It's been fucking awesome man, man. I appreciate it. And we always wrap this thing up, um, with having our guests play something for us, so Yeah, for sure. If you wouldn't mind. Yeah. We'll, we'll we'll have you grab the guitar in just a second. Cool. Um, what song you wanna play for us today? Um,
Speaker 2 01:00:33 Well I didn't know I was supposed to bring a guitar until I was already on my way. So I have my, uh, high strung with me, uh, which is gonna sound pretty cool. So the one I always doing the high strung is like I know. So
Speaker 3 01:00:42 Like an asal tuning.
Speaker 2 01:00:43 Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:00:44 Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:00:44 Buddy. So for those that don't know, a asal tuning is you buy a 12, uh, 12 string guitar pack. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But instead of using the like regular strings, you use all the high strings so it's strung up an octave.
Speaker 1 01:00:59 Oh shit.
Speaker 2 01:00:59 Carter's guitars already has a, a whole pack. They just called the Asheville one. You got on. I don't need to split the pack. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 01:01:04 Yeah, I didn't know they had that, but yeah.
Speaker 1 01:01:07 That's pretty great. So what song do you play when this, this higher level?
Speaker 2 01:01:10 Uh, I'm, I'm gonna do like, I never left. Oh
Speaker 1 01:01:12 Fuck yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 01:01:13 Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 01:01:13 Sweet. Cool.
Speaker 1 01:01:14 Hell yeah dude. Well, episode 40, Tyler. It's been freaking awesome, dude.
Speaker 3 01:01:18 It's been awesome. It's been almost a year, right? It's
Speaker 1 01:01:20 Been almost, it's been now a little bit now. Probably a little bit over a year. Yeah. Congratulations. Which is crazy. Thanks man. Yeah, thank you man. And uh, and um, thank you everybody for listening as always. Um, it's, it's crazy right now we're hammering out episodes and all this quarantine stuff. We'll figure out Tyler's back from Texas. I might be going back up north. We're figuring everything out. Um, live Oak, our good friends over there have put a hold on events and being open with all the craziness coming,
Speaker 3 01:01:45 Which is being smart.
Speaker 1 01:01:45 Which is being smart, which we're totally all about and stuff. But we'll let y'all know when, uh, when our next writer's round's gonna be. Wouldd love to have Sam Varga on one of those writers' rounds cuz it'd be great to have you and some friends up there just playing some, playing some original music towards Oh,
Speaker 2 01:01:58 I'll get it dude. For
Speaker 1 01:01:58 Sure. Oh, absolutely. So y I
Speaker 3 01:02:00 Think during this whole thing I'm also, so we had a, uh, resident redneck that was supposed to work on our website. I think during this whole thing. When I'm quarantined I'm just gonna learn coding real quick. <laugh>
Speaker 1 01:02:11 So, so, so Boudro will build a website for y'all to go check out, check out content, be product
Speaker 3 01:02:16 Vino, learn something.
Speaker 1 01:02:17 But as always y'all can find us at In the round podcast. We're on Twitter at in the round pod, in the round on Facebook. We got some shit up on YouTube. And uh, y'all make sure to keep checking out those episodes. Uh, we're, we're all gonna get through this coronavirus bullshit and uh, we're enjoying our same Patty's day. Me and Boudreau got our bucky shirts on. Boudreau's got his bird good, good as gold. We got Bucky's nuggets. We're having a damn good time. And, um, best wishes to everybody out there with with all that's going on, whatnot. Everybody stay positive now without further ado. And let our buddy Sam Varga take over on the end of the,
Speaker 5 01:02:55 There's just one bar on Main Street. It sat 10 different names. If I walked in there, pulled up a chair, be like nothing changed, none know every stop sign I can run back to my house cause the cops don't give a damn from I so far, just three turns and I was right back yard and everything's right, left nothing more than the seasons changed here. A small town joke. I get it. Nothing's been funny since 98. I could go and change the world, I could get a new address, but it's nice to come back home and feel it's like I never left.
Speaker 5 01:04:03 When I'm here I'm always looking but people I don't wanna see. Cuz to them I ain't done nothing less. They've seen it on tv. Don't care where I've been cause I ain't been around. Yeah, they buried me at 23. That's the day I left this town and everything's right where I left it. Nothing more than the seasons changed. Here's a small town joke. I get it like nothing's been funny since 98. I could go and change the world, I could get a new address, but it's nice to come back home and feel slack. I never left. Yes, all ever been my but for better or for worse thing, no the best worst me and everything's right where I left it. Glad to see that nothing's changed and everything's right where I left it. Nothing more than the season's changed. Here's a small town joke. I get it cause nothing's been funny since 90. I could go and change the world, get address, but it's nice to come home and
Speaker 4 01:05:51 Just
Speaker 5 01:05:52 Left.
