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Speaker 3 00:01:21 What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1 00:01:22 Doing good, buddy. How, how the hell have you been?
Speaker 3 00:01:25 Oh man, I've been great. Uh, pretty fairly busy, but that's, that's good. Good for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's been good, man. Um, haven't, haven't really traveled or done anything. Just, just working. Like I, I've had a ton of tracks, you know, I do tracks and stuff on the side as far as riding and had just had a lot of stuff to catch up on, so it's been good. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1 00:01:49 The fact that working for you is music and you've been in town for how long now? It's been, what has it been two years yet?
Speaker 3 00:01:55 Oh, I think almost two years. Like a little over a year and a half, I believe.
Speaker 1 00:02:00 And you're, you're doing music full-time and making a living doing music. That, that's pretty freaking good, my man. It's
Speaker 3 00:02:05 Cool, man. I <laugh> It's funny you say that, cuz, uh, a couple days ago, man, I was just thinking, I was like, dude, this is crazy. Like, yeah, I mean, I, you know, you come down here with expectations, but like, I don't know. It, it's, it's really cool just to kind of see it all unfold and, I don't know, man. It's been really cool.
Speaker 1 00:02:25 And now you talk about, um, coming down here, you come from North Carolina. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you've been playing guitar for a long time. Guitar, banjo, mandolin, whatever. Instruments are in a bluegrass band. You come from the family bluegrass background. Yeah. What, what's growing up in that light? Cause I'm from New York, I don't know a thing about that. I know Tyler knows quite a bit that Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:42 I actually grew up playing bluegrass myself. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I played, uh, wait, yeah, I
Speaker 3 00:02:46 Think I'll remember us talking about that one time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:48 So whenever I was young, like the only teachers in South Alabama that we could find was bluegrass guys. Yeah. So I grew up actually playing. But yeah, talk to us about like, what growing up in like a family bluegrass band and traveling with with them is like,
Speaker 3 00:02:59 Oh man. It was, it was, honestly, it was really fun. It was, it was one of those things that like, not many people get to do. And, uh, you know, I was, I start, I think we started like traveling, traveling when I was like probably 10 or like 11 ish. So we started super young and we, we traveled like all over the country, man. I think we, we've been to like almost all 50 states, you know, just traveling 200, we were doing like 200 dates a year. Geez. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:03:33 And bluegrass bands hustle, man. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:03:35 Dude, it's, it's, uh, I
Speaker 1 00:03:37 Honestly don't take this wrong. I didn't know there was that much of a demand for bluegrass. Like, well, where would it be in all 50 states?
Speaker 3 00:03:43 Dude, it's, you'd be surprised. I mean, you say like, you're from New York or whatever, and like, you weren't exposed to it. But I have a couple buddies, like some of, some of the better players that I know are from like, New York, Pennsylvania. It's just, it's so spread out, man. Like Yeah. It's, it's a, it's a pretty big community. It's just like very spread out, I guess.
Speaker 2 00:04:05 And something that I enjoyed about the community is the community's very open to kids. Yeah. Like the younger you are. Like now, if, you know, John and I were in it and like, we see a kid walking up, like whenever I was younger, at least, like, some older guy would take you under their wing and be like, Hey, let me show you the way. Yeah. And like, it's, it's very much like a family friendly environment, you know? Uh, I know like the big family band when I was coming up was, uh, cherry Homes.
Speaker 3 00:04:31 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:04:33 And like, we, we were with them a lot, so.
Speaker 3 00:04:36 Right. They're, they're, they were, they were so good, man. Yeah. Um, all those guys, uh, yeah, I, I, it's funny because like you said, bluegrass is, they're just, they, they don't really, that community is, is pretty open. They're really some really good people in that industry. And, um, you know, especially going, like, you, you, the cool thing about bluegrass is you don't have to have all this gear. You don't, you know, you don't, you can just like jam in a hallway or something, you know? It's, it's kind of crazy. I don't know if you've ever been to like IBM a or I
Speaker 2 00:05:10 Never made it I B M A, but like, my teacher back home would go every year and he would just be like, it's 24 hours a day just jamming in a hotel. Like, he wouldn't sleep.
Speaker 3 00:05:18 Yeah. No, it's, it's pretty wild. I think I hadn't been in several years, but I think the last time I went was when they were doing it in Nashville and dude, it was just, it's just crazy to see like <laugh>, there's, there's like jam bands in every corner of this huge hotel, you know, just to all play at one time. It's just like a how,
Speaker 1 00:05:37 How many instruments do you know how to play?
Speaker 3 00:05:39 Uh, I mean, I, I probably, I would say guitar, mandolin, bass, piano, like, I mean, those, those are what I stick to. Like if I'm doing something. You have
Speaker 2 00:05:54 A play upright?
Speaker 3 00:05:56 Yeah. Yeah, dog. I, I've, I played doghouse when I was doing bluegrass stuff a little bit. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's, I try to, I haven't, doing tracks has been cool because I've gotten to kind of play a lot of different stuff and you can experiment with different instruments and stuff. But yeah, I'm probably a little rusty on the bluegrass stuff. <laugh>. Well,
Speaker 1 00:06:15 I'm, I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm generally asking because it seems like the bluegrass, like within bluegrass it's so much instrumentation. You don't have the, the tracks in there. You don't have that, that stuff like, it's all raw. Like everything that you hear is being made, whether it's a spoon, it's somebody jamming on a freaking box or
Speaker 2 00:06:31 Whatever. I know, like whenever we were playing, like a lot of the stages had the rule, but I was in competition bluegrass. Yeah. That's like the world I come from. Okay. And like, you know, the only thing they allow on the stage is electric is a base and they even kind of frown upon that. Yeah. Yeah. So like, it's all acoustic. If you hear something, it is being made acoustically on a stage and being miced somehow.
Speaker 1 00:06:53 Yeah. Which, which is awesome. So when did John Morgan the songwriter come to be? Because he grew up as a, as a bluegrass kid. Yeah. I'm guessing you played a sport because on your, is your Instagram now John Morgan music? Or is it still J Morgan nine five or whatever?
Speaker 3 00:07:05 Yeah, it's still nine five because
Speaker 1 00:07:06 You won't get rid of that number.
Speaker 3 00:07:07 Yeah, I can't get rid of the no <laugh>. I tried, but I don't, I, there's, I have the most generic name in the world. I have three first names, so it's really hard to get something that somebody doesn't already have.
Speaker 1 00:07:18 What's your middle name?
Speaker 3 00:07:19 Robert
Speaker 1 00:07:20 John. Robert Morgan? Yeah. Hell yeah. 95. Were you, um, is that, uh, playing a playing baseball?
Speaker 3 00:07:27 No, that, that, it's actually my, my birthday.
Speaker 1 00:07:30 Oh, your birth year. Okay,
Speaker 3 00:07:31 Cool. Yeah, so it was just, I use it so now everyone knows pretty much all my passwords to everything that I have because <laugh>, my,
Speaker 1 00:07:39 My mine's got the, mine's got a nine five in there too. Um, yeah. But yeah. Yeah. For, for the same reason. You just, it's, it's easy. You can forget a lot of shit. It's easy. You don't, you don't forget your birth year, you know, <laugh>, I hope.
Speaker 3 00:07:50 How many,
Speaker 1 00:07:51 Yeah. How now, how, how many times have, how many times this or last week did you get stopped with people thinking you're hardy? Oh dude, <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:07:58 Well, it's, it's, yeah. Usually when I wear the glasses that's, cuz you know, I wear contacts most of the time. But these contacts in particular are probably like good eight months old. So they're, uh, <laugh>. I've been wearing my glasses a lot more <laugh>. I'm just too, too lazy to get new contacts. But, uh, yeah, it's usually when I have the glasses on. I mean, sometimes it's not all the time, but I do, I do get it. I I've gotten it two or three
Speaker 1 00:08:26 Times. Yeah. Cuz when I first met you, I think it was pre mustache, which the mustache looks great by the way. The must mustache is coming. It's, it's coming back <laugh>. And I'm noticing our buddy Trey Lewis has one. Um, it's
Speaker 2 00:08:36 The Covid thing. It was the Covid st. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:08:38 Yeah. I think it was just a lot of people Iraq like that, that red,
Speaker 3 00:08:41 A lot of people losing their goals in life and just <laugh> let themselves go
Speaker 2 00:08:47 Effing 'em on a grow porn stash. Let's know,
Speaker 3 00:08:49 Mustaches are cool again. All right.
Speaker 2 00:08:51 Whatever. 2020 got weird man.
Speaker 3 00:08:54 <laugh> my case, it's, the reason I grew a mustache is cuz it's pretty much the only thing I can grow on my face. Cuz I'm very a
Speaker 1 00:09:02 Patchy. I get like this patchy, it looks kind of like puby. Like I, I, it's,
Speaker 3 00:09:06 See
Speaker 2 00:09:06 The thing is you gotta get, like, you just gotta let it go past that for a while. Like, you gotta go into hiding for like two or three weeks. Cause this has been since March for me and like, oh, uh, I haven't touched
Speaker 1 00:09:16 Any that, that, that, that Blue Combs beard, you know, it's just kind of hanging out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:09:20 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:21 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:09:21 <laugh>. I, I've, it's funny cuz pretty much everybody in my family on my mom's side, and I guess with my, my dad side too, they're some of the Hairies people. Like just my cousin bra is my age and he's had a beard since he was like in fourth grade or fifth grade. You know what I'm saying? <laugh> like, and I, I'm like the only one in my family who can't grow facial hair. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:09:43 That's, that's that north, this is how it is now. You're from where in North Carolina?
Speaker 3 00:09:46 Uh, Sylva, North Carolina. Where's that
Speaker 2 00:09:49 Out? In the great state?
Speaker 3 00:09:50 Pretty far west, like as far west that you can go. So
Speaker 2 00:09:55 Right on like Tennessee line.
Speaker 3 00:09:56 Yeah. We're, I'm like, yeah, I'm sure y'all know where Pigeon Forge is. Yeah, I'm like, probably an hour 15 from there I think.
Speaker 2 00:10:02 Okay, cool. A little more. I love that far North Carolina. I go over like Asheville, I go a little bit farther into like Black Mountain a lot.
Speaker 3 00:10:09 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:10 I love that part.
Speaker 3 00:10:10 Asheville's like 45 minutes for me.
Speaker 1 00:10:12 Yeah. I hear Asheville's a good time too. And that and then Yeah, it is. It's cool. Is is Asheville where, um, app State is or is that in Boone?
Speaker 3 00:10:20 That's in Boone. It's in Boone.
Speaker 1 00:10:23 Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:10:23 Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:10:24 <affirmative>. It's close though, right? Pretty
Speaker 3 00:10:25 Close. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, I'm, I honestly don't remember how far Boone is. Um,
Speaker 1 00:10:31 You go back pretty often or have you been back at all during the pandemic or,
Speaker 3 00:10:35 Uh, yeah, I actually went back a couple weeks ago. Um, I forget what I think my, uh, my little cousin got married over in Chattanooga, so I was in the wedding and I just went from there. I was like, man, I'm, you know, two and a half hours from home, I might as well just go home. I was like, I'll stay, I'll stay for a couple days. I ended up staying for like two weeks or something. <laugh>. I was like,
Speaker 2 00:10:55 Feel like that sometimes.
Speaker 3 00:10:57 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:10:57 What, what's the thing you miss most about home?
Speaker 3 00:11:00 Oh man. Probably, definitely, definitely the food. Uh,
Speaker 1 00:11:05 Yeah. What, what's, what are uh, what's the Morgan family cooking? Like?
Speaker 3 00:11:09 Um,
Speaker 1 00:11:09 What's the go-to? We, we show up and mama's like, I'm gonna make you dinner. What is she making?
Speaker 3 00:11:13 Oh man, she made something, she made something when I was home that was freaking awesome. It was, uh, what was it called? Tomato pie, I think. Tomato pie. I think it was called Tomato Pie. And I had never really had that or anything like that, but it was one of the best things I've ever had.
Speaker 2 00:11:31 What, what's all in that? Because that sounds, that intrigues me. Was
Speaker 3 00:11:34 It? Dude, it's, I, when she told me I was like, uh, cuz I, I mean I like tomatoes, I just like raw tomatoes or like put 'em on a sandwich, you know? But I, I'm not usually a fan of cooked tomatoes for some reason. But shit, dude, I tried it and I was like, I don't know what this is, but we need more <laugh> and, uh, <laugh>. No, it was, it was super good. But yeah, she cooks all kinds of stuff. Um, pretty much that my mom's side of the family, they're all good cooks, so it doesn't matter. You can't go wrong
Speaker 1 00:12:05 <laugh>. Yeah, no, that, that's definitely a, a good thing and a reason to go home. See, I go home, I get all that the Italian, like New York. Oh yeah. Like pasta, this and that. Yeah. And Tyler's got stuff out in Alabama where, where they need
Speaker 2 00:12:16 To Yeah. I go home and I eat just like a lot of good southern cooking food, but dude,
Speaker 3 00:12:20 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:12:20 The thing I grew up on as being like an hour from the coast and 30 minutes from the river is just a ton of
Speaker 3 00:12:26 Fish. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 00:12:26 And I love it. And that's the one thing I hate about Nashville is being so landlocked.
Speaker 3 00:12:30 Yeah. Yeah. I, I do miss just going up the creek and fishing, dude like that, that's, I mean, it's stuff like that that I miss probably more about home is just being able to, you know, go do stuff and you
Speaker 2 00:12:45 Shoot a gun in your backyard and nobody questions it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:12:47 It's <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:12:48 Yeah. Do you, do you, um, did you get any more inspiration going back home for that two week period? For sure. Did you come back and be like, Hey, hey guys, I got a ton of ideas. Like just being out in nature again. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:13:00 I, I don't know if I kind of, I don't know if I had as many ideas when I came back, but it was just good to like not do music for a second. Cuz at that time when I went home I was like busting it, you know? So, uh, it was a, it was a good break and, um, just to kind of relax and clear my head to where, you know, when I got back I could focus and I just had a lot going on. So it was, it was a good time. But, um, that's probably why I stayed for two weeks.
Speaker 1 00:13:26 <laugh>. Yeah, dude. No, you need it. There's something about being home and, and getting outta town for a little bit. Yeah. Especially when you've been here the whole time during a pandemic. Like Yeah. Nashville's been that. It's, it's been a weird time to be in Nashville the last six, seven months. Um, oh yeah, for sure. So what, um, so what's your story with getting to Nashville? You've been here about a year and a half. How'd the moving process go and, uh, how'd you get to where you are right now? Give us a little story. Tell
Speaker 3 00:13:51 Us. Well, I, uh, so I was, you know, I've always done music and like I said, growing up and kind of got out of it for a little bit. I think I was 20, I think I just was like 20, 20 or 21 in that age range. And, um, I was just working and getting, I was really considering taking over my dad's business and was at home and I kind of quit writing and quit. I honestly, I didn't like, touch my guitar for like, probably nine months or something. It was pretty, pretty wild for me cuz I'm, you know, always am playing or doing something and, um, I just took a break from it. Kinda got burned out for a second and had some stuff fall through and, you know, just kind, I was kind of being, uh, I was kind of pouting for a little bit and um, one day I was just like, man, I'm just, you know, not happy. Like, and I, I was working, I had was making money <laugh>. Yeah. Forgot what that felt like.
Speaker 1 00:14:48 You, you go, did you go to college?
Speaker 3 00:14:50 Yeah, I, I, I did end up, uh, I went to college before that and, um, yeah, straight outta high school. I took like a year off and was still playing at the time with, in the bluegrass circuit. And I went to college for a year and a half and figured it wasn't for me. And, uh, moved back home and that's when I started working and all and actually ended up, uh, gys of Jib Gibson, my roommate. He's from pretty close to where I'm from.
Speaker 1 00:15:17 Yeah, I was gonna ask, how did y'all get linked up? Because you're, what's funny, you guys have been, you kind of like how me and me and Tyler and me and Boudreaux were always, we're always kind of together and involved in similar of the projects right? You guys as roommates and playing rounds and writing together, obviously. How'd you two get linked up?
Speaker 3 00:15:33 Uh, so my, my best friend in high school, Jeb, and I didn't go to the same school, but my best friend in high school was friends with him, so we kind of knew each other growing up. And uh, he did, he kind of started off in the bluegrass circuit too. So, um, it was, we, we started writing later on or, um, you know, working on tracks or just hanging out. And then we started gigging and I was just playing guitar with him and, um, me and him and his dad, we did, did a lot of shows around, um, back home. And, uh, but anyway, he, he ended up getting a deal, uh, with Seagul and I think, I can't remember how, what his story was. I think he knew somebody that used to work down here and somehow or another he got a deal and moved down here.
Speaker 3 00:16:18 And, uh, I think that was about four years ago. And, you know, at the time we were playing and just gigging, like I said. And then that's when I kind of, you know, um, started working and got off of music when he moved down here. But then like four years later, he calls me up and he was like, Hey man, uh, he's like, I don't know if you're still like, wanna move down here, but my roommate's getting ready to move out. And uh, he's like, I need somebody this month. And at the time, that was like two, two weeks before that I started thinking hard about it. I was like, man, I, I gotta get back into music. Funny
Speaker 1 00:16:53 How that works, isn't it? Yeah. You're thinking about it. Yeah. And then the world presents an opportunity for it to happen.
Speaker 3 00:16:58 Yeah. And, and the like, the, we before that, my buddy Rob who moved down here, like a year before me, he calls me, he's like, dude, he's like, I'm not trying to tell you what to do. He's like, but you, you, you need to move down here. And, and it was just kind of, he, he would call me like every week, be like, dude, stop being a wimp. <laugh>. He's like, get outta your comfort zone, move down here. He is. Like, it's something's something good's gonna happen. So the between those two and like, you know, it just kind of got me thinking about it. And then Jeb ends up calling me and tells me that, so I just did it, man. I had like, I had just bought like, you know, like 10 acres of land back home and was building a tiny house and, uh, was just doing all kinds of projects and was kind of, you know, ready to settle down, I guess and stay, be, be a homeboy and um, you know, I just, I just sold it all and yeah, my packed with little stuff I had and came down here and it's been great, man.
Speaker 3 00:17:53 It's, uh, I'm so glad I did, um, met a lot of cool people that, you know, are doing the same thing I'm doing. And did
Speaker 1 00:18:01 You have, did, have you worked a job outside of music in Nashville?
Speaker 3 00:18:05 Uh, yeah, I worked at Lucky Brand when I first moved down here. Okay. Yeah. Aubry Mills. Uh, that was <laugh>. It's a
Speaker 2 00:18:12 Good old time at Aubry Mills, right? Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:18:14 Yeah. Oh man. No, dude. I, I've <laugh>. Yeah, when I first moved down here, I was like, man, I had saved up some money that, you know, a couple months before I did. And, and so I was, I, I had planned on like having at least, you know, three or four months to not have to work till I could find a job. And that went by way faster than I anticipated <laugh>. Uh, but yeah, it was, I I I was like, man, I gotta get something. So I ended up just, I think I was, oh, my buddy Rob told me about it. He's like, yeah, they're hiring over here. So I went over there and they <laugh> they were, they had like a whole new uh, crew and so they were, they just hired me. And
Speaker 1 00:18:54 What, what were you doing in there? I'm guessing that's retail work, right?
Speaker 3 00:18:56 Yeah. Yeah. So
Speaker 1 00:18:57 You're just selling jeans?
Speaker 3 00:18:59 Yeah, dude, I was, uh, I mean <laugh> were you
Speaker 1 00:19:02 Dealing with bachelorette parties and stuff? Cause I know Opry Mills is like, is like peop a lot of tourists pop in there that's like the tourist spot to shop that and the Gulch.
Speaker 3 00:19:10 Yeah. You see a lot of different people at Opry Mills. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:19:13 For sure. I used to work over Under Armour and Sons ski sports.
Speaker 3 00:19:16 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2 00:19:17 Yeah. So like, yeah, it's, it, you see some interesting people.
Speaker 3 00:19:21 Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 00:19:22 Was there some culture shock coming from small town North Carolina to Nashville?
Speaker 3 00:19:27 Yeah. Uh, what's funny is that like Nashville when you, because I, I'd been to Nashville a couple times and, but I hadn't really seen Nashville and when we, when we were doing the bluegrass thing, we would come through and just, you know, stop him for the night or whatever. But dude, like it's funny how much of a small town Nashville is. Like, once you actually get down here and you make some friends, especially in the music industry. Oh yeah. I'm sure y'all know it's the same thing. Like, everybody knows everybody. Like they're, everybody taught. You know, it's just funny that like, it's so small of a community once you get down here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:03 What are you, what are you packing right there? We gotta plug, we gotta plug the dip. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:20:06 This is not my, this is not a sponsor.
Speaker 1 00:20:09 <laugh> not a sponsor, but not yet. Skull Wintergreen.
Speaker 3 00:20:11 Skull Wintergreen. I
Speaker 1 00:20:12 Don't see a lot of guys dip Skull, wintergreen
Speaker 3 00:20:14 Long cut. See
Speaker 2 00:20:15 That's all people dip where I'm from. It's skull
Speaker 1 00:20:17 Wintergreen. Yeah, dude, really? Is that just cuz of the one gas station? Like
Speaker 2 00:20:21 Nah, we got tons of
Speaker 1 00:20:23 Options. That was, that was for me growing up in New York, we only, not everybody chews up in New York and it's expensive. It's like, like this can of Copenhagen I got is like 7 58 bucks a can, which is ridiculous. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But like, they would only carry three or four flavors and Skull Wintergreen was one of 'em. So I've dipped the skull win Green. It's in the Toby Keith song, um, whatever a million beers ago or whatever beers ago where he said can of win green skull. Yeah. But uh, I usually see people dipping like the skull flavors. Yeah. Like cherry and peach and stuff.
Speaker 3 00:20:51 But see I'm not, I'm not about Cherry, cherry. I will throw up if, if I smell
Speaker 1 00:20:55 It taste tastes like coffee syrup, bro.
Speaker 3 00:20:57 Oh, it's awful. I don't
Speaker 2 00:20:58 Dip, but,
Speaker 3 00:20:59 Oh well I can imagine that's you better off <laugh>. See
Speaker 1 00:21:03 I wish I had started. I mean it's, I mean I don't wish I had started cuz I, I mean I love dipping, but it, it is what it is. But like back in the day they apparently had like a skull vanilla flavored. They had like all like the skull Skull has the most flavors out of everybody, but Oh yeah. Back in the day they had like a vanilla, like a chocolate I think like all kinds of just random. They were just throwing darts at the wall.
Speaker 3 00:21:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My cookies and cream
Speaker 2 00:21:27 <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:21:28 <laugh>. You imagine that like dipping dots, but Dip <laugh>, I
Speaker 2 00:21:31 Mean, I might start dipping if it's cookies and
Speaker 3 00:21:32 Cream. Yeah. <laugh>. That's, that's very appealing. Uh, though my, I started dipping this, I mean, I better, I better preface this by apologizing to my mom. Cause she hates that I dip
Speaker 1 00:21:45 <laugh>. Oh my, my mom hates that I dip too. Sorry, mom.
Speaker 3 00:21:47 <laugh>. Yeah, sorry. Uh, no, it's, I mean, I think I started dipping school probably, I was probably like 19 and, uh, I've just been doing it ever since. Man. You play
Speaker 1 00:21:59 Any sports growing up?
Speaker 3 00:22:00 Yeah, I played, uh,
Speaker 1 00:22:02 You definitely played baseball. Yeah. But that's a big North Carolina thing.
Speaker 3 00:22:05 Yeah, I, I grew up playing baseball. That was, that was my first love. And then basketball kind of, I, when I, when I, I went to a really small private school Christian school and, uh, when I, when I was growing up and like, literally I think it was a couple years before I got into high school, the program shut the, the baseball program shut down. So I just really, yeah. I switched over to basketball and, and that became my like, sport. So.
Speaker 1 00:22:30 Okay. What, which college team do you pull for in North Carolina? Cause y'all got a lot in this.
Speaker 3 00:22:33 I'm a tar hill all the way, bro. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:22:35 Go Duke. Uh, oh, come on man.
Speaker 1 00:22:38 And I'm an ACC guys. Well, I didn't go to Tech, but I'm a big Virginia Tech fan. Yeah. So I, I get the ACC and U N C's got a hell of a football team this year.
Speaker 3 00:22:46 Yeah, they do. I'm, I'm, see this is the weird part is I'm a Mizzou fan in, in football. So how
Speaker 1 00:22:52 The hell does that happen? <laugh>?
Speaker 3 00:22:54 Uh, so a lot of my dad's side of the family is from like, like my sister lives in Columbia and so I've got a lot of people in Missouri and like Kansas City and all that area. So, so
Speaker 1 00:23:06 You've been, you've been to a game day out there?
Speaker 3 00:23:07 Yeah, I actually haven't actually haven't really? No. I, I've, I've never been to a game day. Um, but I, I wanna make that happen. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:23:15 I mean, hell, even if, um, I hear Vanderbilt tickets are pretty freaking cheap here. Yeah. And Missouri comes in and plays Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 00:23:22 Yeah. Yeah. I
Speaker 2 00:23:23 Don't know if we're gonna see a vanity game this year, but next year, man.
Speaker 3 00:23:25 Yeah, I
Speaker 1 00:23:26 Know. Yeah. And there's probably, and and what's cool about Nashville that I've gotten to notice is, and I'm sure you've noticed as well mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the teams travel here. Like we're a destination in this town. So you get to see Yeah. The Georgia fans come in, the Bama fans come in, the Kentucky fans come down. Vaul Nation comes in the Nashville. Yeah. And Mizzou comes in as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:23:44 Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1 00:23:45 I remember like Chase, Daniel Blaine, Gabbard, like they were, there were, there were some fun Mizzou teams back in the big 12 days.
Speaker 3 00:23:51 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:52 Then they switched to S ECC and was like, we wanna lose every game. Like Bandy <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:23:55 Yeah. I've, I don't know, man. I don't know what they're, they're gonna have to, something's gonna have to happen for them to be able to hang with the rest of these, you know, s e c teams are just too
Speaker 2 00:24:04 Good. See, I'm, I'm very much, let's send Missouri back to the Big 12 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:24:11 Mean,
Speaker 2 00:24:11 And let's take Clemson into the s e C and let's really see who the biggest dog is in the s e c. Yeah. Because I think whoever wins s e c I mean, it's pretty much already whoever win's, SCCs gonna win. You know, the Natty. But yeah, let's just really see who the big dog is and like, let them eat. Cuz Clemson ain't really got competition right now in the acc.
Speaker 1 00:24:31 Hey, north Carolina's very good this year. The
Speaker 3 00:24:34 Yeah, they're they're gonna be good. They're gonna be
Speaker 2 00:24:36 Good, but they're not gonna be, you don't know
Speaker 1 00:24:38 Mac's, Dabo Mac. Mac Mac Brown is building something and it scares the hell outta me. He as a Virginia Tech fan.
Speaker 3 00:24:44 No, he's definitely, something's getting, they're, they're doing something right over there,
Speaker 2 00:24:47 Speaking North Carolina. So whenever NCAA football was still a thing on the Xbox, PlayStation greatest video
Speaker 1 00:24:54 Game of all time, dude.
Speaker 2 00:24:55 Yeah. Between, so obviously being from Alabama, none of us, we were like, can't play with Alabama. They're two op Yeah. Uh, 12 through like 14 or 15 whenever the last one came out. We were like, you can't play with 'em. They're two op <laugh>. But then we'd just pick random teams. And so like, we'd pick teams, we'd be like, all right. Can't pick anybody. Top 25. Yeah. So my team to always pick when we played those stipulations was North Carolina. And I would just run the ball down. Somebody's Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:22 Like Gio Bernard. I mean, they, they had, they had some bats. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:25:25 Yeah, they did. But
Speaker 2 00:25:26 Yeah. And I'd always win. So North Carolina was always my not top 25 pick
Speaker 1 00:25:31 <laugh> and then talking about baseball. Cause me and Boudreau are big baseball guys. Um, yeah. You're
Speaker 3 00:25:35 Yankees fan are Right.
Speaker 1 00:25:36 Guessing you're an Atlanta Braves fan.
Speaker 3 00:25:38 I'm not, dude, this, this really, this is gonna, yeah, I'm a Cardinals fan. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:25:42 Missouri. Okay. I respect it.
Speaker 3 00:25:44 Yeah. Yeah. I it's, it's one of the two <laugh>. No, I, uh,
Speaker 1 00:25:48 What was it? I mean, I know you have family in, in Missouri. Yeah. But what was, was it, was it watching guys like Jim Edmonds and McGuire and
Speaker 3 00:25:55 McGuire was my first guy and
Speaker 1 00:25:56 Adam Wayne Wright and Chris Carpenter. I mean the, the Gotti
Speaker 3 00:26:00 Pool host was my, my second guy. He went from Big Mac to pool holes.
Speaker 1 00:26:03 He just hit number six 60. Todd Willie Mays all time, which is Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 2 00:26:07 Crazy.
Speaker 3 00:26:08 Yeah. Yeah. He's, yeah, he was,
Speaker 2 00:26:10 I think if he doesn't go out in Los Angeles, he breaks the home run record.
Speaker 1 00:26:13 Yeah. It's, it's crazy. How would change the scenery? I mean, his, I mean, granny's gotten older, but he's also a guy that played in a steroid era. He came up right at the tail end of that mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And he didn't take him and he was still elite and Yeah. He, he, he put an energy into St. Louis. That wasn't, I mean, St. Louis has always been a powerhouse, but Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:26:32 Yeah. I, him, I mean, those guys were like some, yeah. They were just so fun to watch, man. Um, that, that, that I kind of, I haven't kept up with baseball as much as I used to. My dad's a big baseball guy. Um, so we, we, we kept up with it a lot. Um, like back in the day, David Tine when during that era. And that was, that was fun to watch. Um, but yeah, I haven't really kept up with it as much. Um, I'm, I'm just, I'm not a big political guy and I feel like sports are so political now. It's hard to
Speaker 1 00:27:06 Yeah. It's, it's, it's a shame that they've, that it's gotten brought into that and everything. Yeah. And it'd be cool. I mean, they're talking about Nashville getting a team Timberlake. Oh dude,
Speaker 3 00:27:13 Dude,
Speaker 1 00:27:14 I saw that Timberlake's on there. Luke Combs is not, there's a bunch. There's like a whole, it's, it's funny. There's a music advisory board to the committee. Yeah. I don't know what the hell their involvement is, but it's still pretty cool. I mean, I guess since That's cool. Music City, they're trying to attach everything mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But could you imagine, and where, where did they say they were gonna put the stadium? Tyler?
Speaker 2 00:27:31 Uh, they were talking about putting like, kind of right there by Nissan. Really? Like across the river. But, and basically Nissan and the ballpark would kind of be interconnected in a way. I don't know how the hell they're gonna do that.
Speaker 1 00:27:46 It'd be like, if you've ever been up to Philly or up to, I mean, there's, there's, there's cer there's certain cities where they have the stadiums near each other. Yeah. But could you imagine in the fall, say say September, the whatever Nashville team it is, Nashville Stars, I think Stars. Could you imagine the stars are competing in a playoff run and you have Titans games on Sunday and you have these rowdy college teams coming in that kick the shit out of Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2 00:28:08 Well, even maybe like pre-season stuff where you might even still have a hockey play too.
Speaker 1 00:28:11 Yeah. And, and you might, and you might have hockey. Could you imagine a weekend of a Preds game? A Titan? Or October. Or October? October. Yeah. Can you imagine a, a Vandy home game dude? A a competitive Nashville Stars team. A the Titans doing what they're doing, and then the Preds all at the same time.
Speaker 3 00:28:27 Dude, that, that, that sounds really fun. But also <laugh>, I feel like
Speaker 2 00:28:32 Broadway gonna be be a bomb.
Speaker 1 00:28:35 You're, you're in East now. How close are you to the stadiums?
Speaker 3 00:28:37 Uh, or the, I think we were like, uh, like seven minutes maybe. I think I, I know. Well, let me think. Dude. I, I'm the worst guy with directions. <laugh>, uh, as j he, he gets pissed off all the,
Speaker 1 00:28:52 You're
Speaker 2 00:28:52 Match Match the same way. See, I,
Speaker 1 00:28:54 I have a, I I use the gps and what I do is like, say, say I'm like, I have it with a lot of my friends. I'll put in the, I'll say, I'll label the address on Google Maps. Yeah. And I'll just type in the person's name. It'll take me there, <laugh>. Cause I forget shit all the time.
Speaker 3 00:29:08 I'm the world first. Like, I, I, I, I probably shouldn't tell this cuz it's gonna make me sound like a complete moron, but I think I was like 21. And I was going, I was coming home from dc I was up in DC visiting my cousin when he was living up there. And I just went up there for the weekend and I was coming home and I was supposed to play a gig back home. And, uh, <laugh>, I, I, somehow or another, I topped in, so the place I was playing was just like a community building back in my hometown. And I topped in like, I think it was Coley Fire Department. And it took me to Colia Fire Department in like, uh, Mayberry and, which is like pretty, pretty good ways away from where I'm from. Like <laugh> getting six, seven hours probably. And, uh, yeah, I, I ended up in Mayberry and was like seven hours late for my show. <laugh> <laugh>. My, my mom reminded me that the other day. I was like, thanks. I feel like I'm moron for doing that. I was just, I guess the reason I'm so bad with direction is cause I don't pay attention to like, road signs and stuff. I'm usually listening to a mix or like listening to Spotify or podcasts and I'm like, and you know, and, and, and I just don't pay attention. I'm just watching.
Speaker 1 00:30:26 Who are some of your podcasts? You a big Joe Rogan guy. What do, what do you, what do you dive into when you're on those long drives?
Speaker 3 00:30:32 Joe Rogan's. Cool. Um, I honestly, I just kind of got into it. I just kind of got into podcasts cuz I've been driving a little bit. But, um, yeah, I, I listened to you guys. I listened to the, uh, Faren interview. Y'all did? That was really cool. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:30:47 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That was, that was a fun one. Her talking about the goats. She's
Speaker 3 00:30:50 Awesome. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I, I, I'll listen to that up in Vanish. My buddy Rob does some stuff for them. So I, I'll listen to them a little bit. Um, are
Speaker 2 00:30:59 You big, like on like folklore and stuff like that?
Speaker 3 00:31:02 Uhuh? No. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:31:03 No, I was gonna say, being in like bluegrass, like I know there's like a lot of that type of storytelling. I was gonna say there's a really good one called Lore that's a podcast. Oh really? Like all like folklore, like I'll have to check it out. Yeah. It's really
Speaker 1 00:31:14 Give give you some song ideas. Mm. Now what's it been like transitioning from say, an acoustic world? Like, like bluegrass and coming from small town USA to now being considered a track guy and honestly one of, you're, you're a name that we hear a lot and everybody's like, oh, you know, you ever heard of this John Moore? I'm like, oh yeah, I know John, John John's the homie. Yeah. Like, what, what's it been like now transitioning and, and it's been 2020, I know it's been a, been a shit year for a lot of people, but it's been a big year for you. What, what's, what's it been like transitioning to being a track guy in town?
Speaker 3 00:31:42 Well, I probably should have caught you up a little bit because I was, I mean, that's, that's kind of where, uh, I, uh, the direction I was going. Um, but in the last <laugh> the last two months, it's a lot of stuff has changed in a good way. Um, but you know, I I moved down here and started working with Riverhouse and, uh, you know, it was, I, I think I kinda worked with them off and on. They, they, Zeb Blusters a guy who
Speaker 1 00:32:09 Yes. So yeah, we know Zeb why not Wednesday an incredible event. They do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:32:12 Yeah. He's awesome. Um, but yeah, he, he ended up like hearing me at, I think it was a, it might have been one of your rounds that I was playing at or something, and he was there. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:32:21 Loved doing that. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:32:22 Yeah. I knew it was at Live Oak. Um, I can't remember which round it was, but I think it might have been, might have been y'alls. Uh, anyway, he, he kind of like plugged me in over there and, um, started getting me some bigger rights and get me in some better rooms and, and just kinda one thing led to another. And then I ended up, I had met a guy, <laugh>, actually, when I was working at Lucky Brand. Um, Jonathan Edwards, I don't know if y'all know him. Um, he's a rider inside. He's been here for a while. But I met him, he came in, was buying jeans or something and sent him some demos. Well, he ended up hooking me up with, uh, Tulley Kennedy and Kurt Allison, who are Al Jason Aldi's bass guitar player. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:33:03 Wow, okay. That's a pretty, pretty good little hookup for selling jeans.
Speaker 3 00:33:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. And I, it's, there's, there's a pretty cool story behind it. But, um, it's, it would take me forever to, we got, we
Speaker 1 00:33:13 Got plenty of time, man. We like hearing stories. Well,
Speaker 3 00:33:16 As long as, I mean, basically we ended up meeting, um, and he was, he came in and he was, and I could tell he is a musician, you know, and, and he was, I was like, so I was like, are you a writer? What do you do? And he was like, yeah, I've been here for a while. I was like, well, I just moved to town. And, um, he was like, well, send me some stuff. And so I, I ended up like, I was like so excited. I like sent it to him right away and he left and I was like, closing that night. And uh, like 30 minutes later he comes walking back in and he was like, is this you? Like, you're singing the demos and stuff? I was like, yeah. And, uh, he was like, what do you, what time do you get off?
Speaker 3 00:33:54 I was like, probably like 11 <laugh> because I was closing, you know? And he was like, all right. He's like, I'm gonna wait out here. He's like, I'll wait till you get off. So he went and like, sat in the lobby and, and hung out and shopped around I guess some more. And, uh, long story short, we ended up going back to his studio afterwards. Uh, me and my bu my buddy Rob actually came through at that time. I was like, dude, you need to meet him too. And um, so we all ended up going to his little studio and he was showing us some of his stuff. And um, like he, he's had a couple cuts with Jason back in the day, like Country Boy's World and Oh wow. He had, uh, um, Jason's last, um, oh man, I can't think right now. I blame it on you.
Speaker 3 00:34:36 Yeah, he's on that one. Uh, so he is an incredible rider and he was just showing us some of his stuff. And, um, we ended up kind of like not talking for a little while and I was like, busy with doing River's House stuff. And he called me up, um, a couple months ago and was like, Hey man, I want to, I want to, I want, I've been talking you up to these guys and I want to get a right with you. So we ended up writing over Zoom and it was just us four. And, uh, got a really cool song, man. And, and Jonathan and I had started, actually we started it on Zoom, he and I did. And then we brought Kurt and Tolia in on it. And cuz you know, it was like kind of during the Covid stuff. And, uh, so nobody was really writing in person at that time.
Speaker 3 00:35:20 And, uh, we ended up getting a really cool song called Over Me, over You, over You Over Me. And, uh, like he, then he, then they were like, oh, let's get some more dates. So long story short, we ended up writing a couple good songs and then they, uh, they were like totally calling me one day and he was like, Hey man, can you do like an acoustic little video of Over You Over Me? And he's like, I just want to hear what it sounds like acoustic. So I was like, yeah, I just went home and did this little thing, you know, and recorded it and sent it to him. And he was like, he said, he called me later on, he was like, Hey man, just, uh, want to give you a heads up. Jason's probably gonna call you today.
Speaker 1 00:35:57 Like, Jason Alvin. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:35:59 Geez. So I was like, <laugh>, all right. And <laugh>, I ended up like, I, I never answered numbers. Like I'm super bad about being around my phone. My biggest thing is I'll leave it somewhere. I never like, like right now I have it in my pocket, but usually I'm like, I'll like lay it over here. Like, forget where I put it and I'm just bad about it. But I ended up like getting a phone call a couple hours later and it was Jason. He was like, Hey man. Um, he was like, totally just sent me the video of the song you guys did. And he was like, you know, he's like, it's killer. Love your voice. And he's like, I wanna sign you. And I was like, oh
Speaker 1 00:36:39 Shit. <laugh>,
Speaker 3 00:36:40 Okay. And at this point, like, you know, I'd been working with Riverhouse and those guys and I was like, ready to, I was full on ready to be a track guy and like, get into that world and Will, Bundy's a big buddy of mine. And so he was helping me with all that stuff. And like, he was like, man, he's like, track the track World's a great foot in the door to get to be whatever else you want to do, ride or, you know, be an artist or whatever. So I was like in that mindset and, um, I've been doing tracks for months and, you know, getting better at him was like, kind of in that groove. And then like, Jason calls me and he's like that at, at that time, like, I had just gotten a deal with Riverhouse, like an offer from Riverhouse like two days before that too. So it was like, it was all, it all kind of was just like, all right, I need to like take a step back here for a second. But, um, long story short, like I ended up just signing with Jason and he, he's got a little, uh, like publishing co He, he started a publishing company and a record label. Um, night Train is the record label, and then the publishing company is Triple Play music. And so I ended up just signing with his publishing company the other day. Um, hell
Speaker 1 00:37:50 Yeah. Congratulations bro. Man, congrats
Speaker 3 00:37:52 On that. Yeah, it's, it's been great. Um, those guys are awesome. Um, yeah, it's, it's been crazy man. It's been a crazy couple months, so, um,
Speaker 1 00:38:01 Isn't it, isn't it wild the, the silver linings that come from Covid in 2020, like that's a song y'all write over Zoom and who knows? I know writing in person is better. Yeah. And people say having the vibes in the room is better, but who knows if y'all would've written that exact song in person? Like it comes from a Zoom, right? It gets, it gets sent over to Jason. You get a call from fricking Jason Aldeen, biggest, biggest country guy out there, dude. And now he got a
Speaker 3 00:38:27 Deal <laugh>. I know. It was shit. It's crazy man. I I it's like a song. It is a crazy town, man. It is. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah, no, it's true man. I'm super like, just blessed to have kinda just had it happen, man. I know it takes, you know, a lot longer for a lot of people and who are a lot better than me, but, you know, it's just, sometimes it just works out like that and I'm just gonna, you know, make sure that, you know, everybody knows it's not, you know, because I don't work hard cuz uh, you know, that's, that's kind of where, you know, I, I kind of take pride in the fact that like, you know, I'm not partying every weekend or doing No,
Speaker 1 00:39:03 You're you're, you're a very focused guy. And the first time I met you, rewinding, I don't even know if you remember this, if you know the story, Tyler. So my first time meeting John, I was, I got a, I got a call from our, our mutual buddy, Cody Bradley saying, Hey man, we're, we're hanging out picking at, at the hou at um, at Kate's, uh, come and hang out. And so I show up and it's, um, a bunch of girls there. So I'm like, this is pretty cool <laugh>. And then I see Cody and then I see this quiet dude, it's sitting there with a guitar and Cody like whispers to me. He's like, you got, you gotta hear with my boy John play. So then we had to, I forget what song it was you play, but I was like, oh shit. Like, and you had just moved to town? Yeah, it was like when I had first started working with Muske Eye and like, way back and to fast forward to now, man, that's freaking awesome,
Speaker 3 00:39:44 Dude. Yeah. It's, it's wild. Um, but yeah, I remember that that was, that was a, that was a fun time. A fun
Speaker 1 00:39:50 Little night. Yeah. Lot. Lots of, well, I remember the
Speaker 2 00:39:52 First time I heard you was at around Oh really? And like, it was like one of those things where I was talking to somebody and you started singing and playing and I just kind of like stopped the conversation was like, holy crap, this guy's got it. Like, oh
Speaker 1 00:40:02 Dude, thank you. When, when did you write your first song? Were you writing in North Carolina when you were doing bluegrass stuff?
Speaker 3 00:40:07 Yeah, I, I wrote a couple bluegrass tunes that, you know, we cut with, you know, my old band and, um, you know, it, I didn't really write too much bluegrass stuff. I honestly kinda, it was kinda, when I got out of that I was probably like, I don't know, I think, I think I started writing writing when I was like 17 or 18, like when I was really, you know, trying to write good songs. Um, and I was trying to do my own thing too at that time. Kind of got out, I was going to college or whatever and, um, I was doing more country stuff and more mayor stuff and uh, so that's when I really started riding. But I had a, you know, my buddy Rob, who I talked about earlier, Rob Ricotta, he, uh, he's from the next county over from me and back home.
Speaker 3 00:40:54 And he moved down here about a year before I did. And, uh, we had written a couple good songs. Like he, we, we started writing like the year before that, and then we started writing all the time. We wrote for like a probably a solid year. Um, him and, and Rob Browning and they, they, they were, they kind of took me under their wing and helped me with demo stuff and love those dudes. Um, but yeah, Rob Ri Ricotta moved down here and he's the one that was like, dude, you gotta get down here. Like we're, the thing that was coolest to me about coming down here was like when you're riding back home with your buddies, it's like, you know, you feel like it's not, you're not in Nashville, so your stuff, you're always like questioning your stuff. Like, is this cool or is this, you know, then you get down here and you're like, dude, some of these songs that we wrote back home are cooler than a lot of the stuff you hear. You know, it's, and it just kind of, it's like a, I don't know, I guess it's a confidence thing. It's like, oh cool, like we can do this. You know what I mean? And, uh, so that, that, that part was really cool for me. Um, just, just seeing that. And, but yeah, dude, we, we wrote him and, uh, my buddy Clay Blue, we, uh, we had like a little circle where we all, we all write all the time, um, got some cool stuff.
Speaker 1 00:42:10 It's important to have that. Now if you're, if you were to, I'm not gonna make you do it cuz we don't want you to lose your phone. You keep that phone in your pocket, <laugh>. Um, but, um, if you were to pull up your Spotify, who are some people that you crank up to and like,
Speaker 3 00:42:22 Dude, I've been, do
Speaker 1 00:42:23 You still listen to a lot of the Bluegrass stuff or are you kind of all over the place now?
Speaker 3 00:42:26 It's, it's funny, I, I do every once in a while I listen to some Bluegrass album band. That's, that's my go-to. Uh, who's
Speaker 2 00:42:33 Your Bluegrass people?
Speaker 3 00:42:35 Uh, I like, uh, the box cars. I like some of their older stuff. Um, I love a lot of Mountain Heart older, their, their older stuff and newer stuff. I
Speaker 2 00:42:45 Gotta play with Mountain Heart a few times where Oh really? They had like, I forget what his name Adam, the mandolin player that
Speaker 3 00:42:52 Was So Adam Steffey? Yeah, Adam
Speaker 2 00:42:53 Steffey. I gotta play with them a few times. That's awesome. And Adam taught me a little bit of Mount Mandolin for a while. Really? Yeah. So, uh, that's, that was really cool. Mountain Heart's great. And
Speaker 3 00:43:02 Oh, he's one of the, the, the, yeah, they had some killing. It was back when
Speaker 2 00:43:04 He was like number one in the world for mandolin players.
Speaker 3 00:43:07 Yeah. Yeah. Uh, do you know Seth Taylor by the way?
Speaker 2 00:43:11 I don't believe I do.
Speaker 3 00:43:12 He plays, he's, he's a guitar player with them now. Okay. Um, he's been with 'em for several years, but, um, yeah, he, he and I, he's from close to where I'm from too, so we kind of, I knew I had those, that little circle when I moved here. It was cool. Um, but yeah man, uh,
Speaker 1 00:43:29 What else do you crank up if we're, if we're riding in the truck with John Morgan? What, what's playing through the radio?
Speaker 3 00:43:34 Dude, I've been, I've been jamming to some Hardy lately. Uh, that new record is killing, I
Speaker 1 00:43:39 Don't think every, I don't, I don't think anybody's not jamming a hardy right now. I know. And it's, I know and it's so cool to, to see what he's doing. Again. A guy that's been in town for a long time Yeah. And he's doing it his way and the industry's just having to conform to it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is pretty wild. It's
Speaker 2 00:43:54 Kind of what Stapleton did. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> just, you know, took over, obviously opposite ends of the spectrum. Yeah. Like sonic wise and writing style. But you know, it's one of the things like the industry kind of has to bow when you're that good.
Speaker 3 00:44:08 Yeah. Uh, yeah, they're, I mean, both those guys are just undeniably talent.
Speaker 1 00:44:13 Have you, have you met Hardy yet?
Speaker 3 00:44:14 Uh, yeah, actually
Speaker 1 00:44:16 Was it, did you have the long hair and the mustache?
Speaker 3 00:44:19 No, I, well, I can't remember, I don't think my hair was this long <laugh>, but yeah, I, I actually met him with uh, cuz Jeb's friends with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:44:27 I know. They're really tight. He, Jeb was in a music video, correct? Yeah. The, uh, give Heaven Some Hell. Which that song is just dude, ridiculous. <laugh> and the video for it is it the creating the, the what's going on over there is just, is just
Speaker 3 00:44:40 Nuts. Yeah, no, it's, they're, they know what they're doing, man. Um, they've got a good thing going. He's just, he's just a talented guy. I mean, it's like you were saying earlier that him and Chris are both just undeniably talented. There's, you know, yeah. You just give him a mic or, you know, or give 'em a room, like whatever they're, they're gonna come up with something cool. And uh, yeah, I've been jammed to that. I, I'm a big Eric Church guy too.
Speaker 1 00:45:04 Carolina Ken. There you go. Yeah, there's, people always talk about Georgia and I think a state that gets overlook. People talk about Georgia and Texas and certain areas, people overlook North Carolina. There's a lot of you guys and girls that are coming outta North Carolina making some noise right now.
Speaker 3 00:45:17 Yeah, man, it's, there's a lot of talented people, even from my like, neck of the woods back home. Like, there's just some talented, especially bluegrass. I mean, that's just, you know how it is. But, uh, a lot of talented people, um, good pickers and, um, yeah, I, I don't know man. I, I listen to, um, I'm, I I like oldie rock a little bit. Um, what's
Speaker 1 00:45:41 Oldie rock to you? Because you're 25, you're like me. So what's what's your definition of oldies rock? Cause like Green Day gets played on the classic rock stations now. Yeah. Which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 00:45:49 Yeah. I don't know, man. I, I, I've, I never, never got into Green Day too much. Um, I was more like foreigner and Okay. Ac dc and all that stuff, but the true classic rock.
Speaker 1 00:46:01 Classic rock, yeah. See my favorite ac dc song and, and I, it's funny, everybody gives me shit for it. Tyler probably knows what I'm gonna say right here. Um, down south. Y'all love the fiddle up north. We love the bagpipes. So that long way to the top if you wanna rock and roll. Yeah. Where Bon Scotts just ripping on the bagpipes and him and hanging, wearing and their shorts are, are just going in. Like, I love that shit.
Speaker 3 00:46:22 Shit. That's so funny. Dude. <laugh>. Yeah. Um, <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:46:25 I love Mason. Some ac dc
Speaker 3 00:46:27 Yeah. Yeah. Always gotta have some bag pipes too. Bag pipes are very interesting instruments. Yeah. For,
Speaker 1 00:46:32 It's just something, I don't know if it's, it's the Celtic influence, like back home, our St. Patrick's Day parades are just massive and I love that. Just get you a public, I just hear the bag pipes and like, we'll be driving, we'll be on a long, long ass drive and I'll be, and I'll be getting tired and Tyler will just look at me like, don't do it. Don't do it. And I'll just crank up like bag, like literally like Scottish bagpipe anthems, like, no words, just instrumental. That's dude bagpipes. And Tyler will look at me like, how much longer we got till we get to our destination. All right. I'll start driving <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:47:00 Um, get me outta this hell hole.
Speaker 1 00:47:02 <laugh>. That's awesome, man. What do you, um, as a track guy, what, what program do you use?
Speaker 3 00:47:05 I run Logic. Um, that's, that's, that's
Speaker 1 00:47:08 Kinda, that's exactly what Tyler's running right now. Yeah. And for me, as, as I come from like an audio editing, I, I come from radio. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and ar Biggs industry stand. There's Adobe Audition. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I had never heard of Logic until I moved down here, but it seems like that is just an accessible only 200 bucks. Yeah. Family. It's just like a friendly, friendly program.
Speaker 3 00:47:27 It's, it's easy to get started on. I feel like Pro Tools, see I got started
Speaker 2 00:47:31 On Pro Tools. Really? So to me, like logic's like dumb most of the time. Yeah. Because like what I can, when I actually do audio, like editing, like when I'm doing tracks mm-hmm. <affirmative> and I'll do tracks and logic like MIDI stuff. But when I'm actually recording live instruments and editing and mastering and all that kind of stuff, I'm in Pro Tools because, uh, yeah. To me, logic's just dumbed down too much.
Speaker 3 00:47:52 Yeah. I, my, so my Jeb runs Pro Tools. Yeah. And so I, when I first moved down here, I didn't have a place to set up anything. I didn't have speakers or anything. And, um, I, I ran his rig for a little while and just, it was good cuz I got to kind of learn pro tools enough to where I can, I could, I could probably run a session mixing and editing. I'm not, the, the shortcuts are all a little different, you know? Yeah. They are better in, in logic with that stuff. But, and
Speaker 2 00:48:17 See, I don't know all the shortcuts and logic. Yeah. So like, you know, it's one of those things like whatever you learn is whatever you learn, but actually like doing mid and I do vocal tuning and lo and logic. Really? Yeah. I do those two things in Logic. Everything else, I pretty much do 'em. Pro Tools.
Speaker 3 00:48:30 Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I don't know, man. I like, I'm like you, I like aspects of both of 'em. I like the, the editing window on Pro Tools a lot better, I think. Yeah. Um, but
Speaker 2 00:48:40 Also whenever I'm editing and stuff, I've got my laptop here and then I've got an HT m I cable to a 55 inch tv. So <laugh>, I'm really getting in there on some waves.
Speaker 1 00:48:49 Y'all, y'all, y'all like your big monitors, y'all. Y'all definitely like your big monitors. Now I wanna ask you some of your favorite stuff with, uh, with Nashville. Do a little, make, make up a little. Like on the, on the fly segment here. Okay. Favorite. Are you a hot chicken guy?
Speaker 3 00:49:01 I'm not. No.
Speaker 1 00:49:02 You don't like spicy food?
Speaker 3 00:49:03 I I, every once in a while if it, I feel like Mexican is like, if it's
Speaker 1 00:49:07 Oh, okay. So Mexican. Okay. Favorite we go? Yeah. Favorite Mexican joint in Nashville?
Speaker 3 00:49:11 Oh dude. My favorite place right now is Five Points Tacos. That place
Speaker 2 00:49:16 I haven't Oh,
Speaker 3 00:49:18 The little food. The little truck there. Oh.
Speaker 2 00:49:20 I like the taco. But I've had the Five Points Mexican, the actual restaurant. It's pretty good too.
Speaker 3 00:49:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just massive.
Speaker 2 00:49:27 We've
Speaker 3 00:49:27 Plates. Yeah. We've been going to that little You need to try that little taco truck. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:49:31 I'm not up in five Points a ton, but when I, next time I go up there I will. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:49:35 It's, it's great. They, they get some really good tacos. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:49:39 Fa favorite bar to hang out in. Mm. Working. If people want to wanna have a John Morgan sighting, where are they gonna find you?
Speaker 3 00:49:45 Uh, used to be Red Door. Used to be Red Door. Um, I haven't been there in that though. We, we used to live really close to the one, um, on, in Midtown. Yeah. And, uh, but we, yeah, I <laugh> I haven't been out. Yeah. I don't even know what to say anymore. Cause
Speaker 1 00:50:00 You've, cause you've been working, what's your um, late night food menu at Red Door? Cause Red Door's got the late night food spot. And then if you don't like Red Door, you go down the street to cook out.
Speaker 3 00:50:08 Right? Yeah. Uh, I usually get the little pizza when I'm at Red Door. You're
Speaker 1 00:50:12 The bar pizza guy. You never got food
Speaker 2 00:50:13 At Red Door. I've
Speaker 1 00:50:14 Heard the Bar Pizzas the way to go.
Speaker 3 00:50:16 It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Especially, you know, when and the, it gets super late
Speaker 1 00:50:20 And the potato salad, which I, which I haven't, did haven't, I haven't had that. I haven't dove into it. But everybody I talked to is like, you go to Red Door, you gotta get the potato salad. You gotta get the potato salad. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2 00:50:29 It was during quarantine when I heard they had a food menu. So that tells you how much I'm at Red Door <laugh> or how much I remember being at Red Door.
Speaker 3 00:50:36 Yeah, that's, yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:50:37 Yeah. Um, favorite like hidden spot. If somebody were to come to Nashville and they're, they're gonna send 'em to a spot that like, they don't know about. That's not Red Door.
Speaker 3 00:50:47 Probably Old Glory. I think that's like a, I think this one. I think one, is
Speaker 2 00:50:52 It a distillery?
Speaker 3 00:50:53 No, it's like a little, it's like a little, uh, dive. Um, okay. It's, it's near, I think it's near Moss Tacos.
Speaker 2 00:51:00 I've definitely heard of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:51:01 It's pretty cool place, man. It's, I, I just like the setup. It's like a, I can't remember what it used to be. Some kind of like, industrial thing and they like turned it into this. It's like two stores. It's really cool. I just, I haven't been there for like, um, you a,
Speaker 2 00:51:14 Uh, are you a Mickey's guy?
Speaker 3 00:51:16 I haven't been to Mickey's. Mickey's
Speaker 2 00:51:18 Is really divey, like, really dive. You've been east,
Speaker 3 00:51:21 You been
Speaker 1 00:51:22 To Santa. Have you been to Santa's?
Speaker 3 00:51:24 No, I, because
Speaker 1 00:51:25 Santas is the other spot. You gotta, you gotta molet in a mustache. And you're talking about dive place.
Speaker 2 00:51:29 I've been here seven years and I've been to Santa's.
Speaker 1 00:51:31 Santa Santas is I believe literally two, two double wide trailers stuck together. I've
Speaker 3 00:51:35 Heard a lot about Santa's pu with,
Speaker 1 00:51:36 With an old dude who his name is Santa cuz he looks like Santa Santa's real. All you kids out there listening <laugh>. Um, um, what was, what was another one? Um, well have you had a um, an oh shit moment with a co-write, like where you're like, oh shit, I'm in the room with this person where you get a little fan girl a little bit.
Speaker 3 00:51:53 Oh yeah. But a couple times. Especially in the last couple months. Dude, it's been <laugh>. It's been really cool. Uh, I think the first one was, um, probably Mike Delaney. Um, him. Yeah, he's, he's a great dude. We've actually got a lot together recently, which has been cool. Um, just a really cool guy to write with. Um, yeah, I I, I knew I knew him because of signing in 75. That was one of my jams back in the day. Yeah. Um, but yeah, him, uh, Brett Beavers was another one, um, that I've gotten the opportunity to write with. Um, I got to, I got to Zoom right with Neil Thrasher the other day, which was cool. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:52:36 Yeah. That's pretty sick. Um,
Speaker 3 00:52:38 Yeah, dude, it's just, it's crazy man. I, I don't know, I I, there's been so many like just I'm, I'm like still trying to wake up and make sure this is real, you know? Yeah. It's, it's been really cool. That's
Speaker 1 00:52:50 Awesome. You big barbecue guy.
Speaker 3 00:52:52 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:52:53 Favorite barbecue joining Nashville. Bre. We'll judge you.
Speaker 3 00:52:56 Oh man. <laugh>. I, I've had a couple. I haven't, I haven't eaten a ton of barbecue. Um, but
Speaker 1 00:53:04 Is it, cuz you're worried it's not gonna be as good as back home because Carolina's such a staple.
Speaker 3 00:53:08 It's so good, man. Haywood smokehouse back home.
Speaker 2 00:53:10 So obviously you're West Carolina, but there's like a, there is a divide in Carolina on barbecue. Yeah. Which side are you on? There's like, it's a vinegar base. And what's the other one? Mustard?
Speaker 3 00:53:21 Uh, I, I can't remember. Um, I'm not, I'm not, I, listen, I'm the least picky guy you've ever met. Yeah. When it comes to food. Um, so it's hard for me to say one over the other, but I, I like all kinds of barbecue, honestly. I'm like, I I I'm surprised that I haven't eaten more of it since I've been here, but probably just cause I've been broke. So, do
Speaker 1 00:53:41 You haven't, so do you have a favorite place?
Speaker 3 00:53:42 Yeah. I don't know, man. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:53:45 Where have you ate?
Speaker 3 00:53:46 I've ate What's the, what's the joint on, uh, 12th South
Speaker 2 00:53:50 Leys
Speaker 3 00:53:50 Leys. I, I've had Leys. I think I had the, uh, the brisket there and it was, it was pretty good. You
Speaker 1 00:53:56 Had Martin's or Peg leg? Porker?
Speaker 3 00:53:58 I have had Martin's and I liked Martin's a lot. You gotta, you gotta
Speaker 1 00:54:01 Try peg like Porker cuz that's often a place that gets overlooked. Bjo introduced me to it and it's, it's solid. It's over there by like cannery in that area. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:54:09 You think? Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:54:09 Literally like, you know, you go past cannery and then there's that, like that little bridge trestle thing. Yeah. You literally take a right, right after that and it's like tucked in there like where, uh, Rudy's Jazz room is and like Scout's Barbershop is over there like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You go over there. Yeah. Yeah. So you like go over there in that part? Hmm. Parkings are rough. Where,
Speaker 1 00:54:28 Where do you get your mullet cut? Dude? Are you a scouts guy?
Speaker 3 00:54:31 I see. I, I, ah,
Speaker 1 00:54:33 Well and is it, and is and and is it a mullet?
Speaker 3 00:54:35 It's not. It's, it's just,
Speaker 1 00:54:36 Let's say, let's, let's
Speaker 3 00:54:37 Just tucked. I just tuck it really well, but it's pretty, pretty long. Like, yeah. Yeah. It's down to here. But
Speaker 1 00:54:44 <laugh>,
Speaker 3 00:54:45 Uh, I'm, I'm a little nervous to go go the mullet thing full on. Um, just yet. It may come eventually, but shaving the sides. That's, uh, have
Speaker 1 00:54:56 You thought about cutting it all off and going back to the clean cut when I first met you, cuz when I first met you, I think your hair was a little bit shorter.
Speaker 3 00:55:02 Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:55:02 It was definitely shorter.
Speaker 3 00:55:04 For the most part. I've been a clean cut guy, but man, I just honestly like, <laugh> being broke and not caring because you're not gonna see anybody. It just, it's all like, well, what, what's the point? You Yeah. I was about
Speaker 2 00:55:16 To say 2020 of the year. Mullets and mustaches. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:55:18 Because nobody cares. Nobody care
Speaker 3 00:55:20 Cares man. It's a, it's, uh, it's so funny because yeah, I, I, the reason I wore scouts is I went and, and got a haircut there like a couple weeks ago and, um, dude, I, I, I like had she, she couldn't even like picked up all the hair. I was just, I told her, I was like, I just want the ends cut off or whatever. Cause I hadn't had a haircut in like a year. So <laugh>, she like, uh, she cut like this much hair off and I get up to the front and they're like, okay, that'll be $50, $45 and something. And I was like, for the haircut or for like, I don't know, like, did you charge me twice or and it was like, I was like, yeah, they go off the is why I don't do hair haircuts.
Speaker 2 00:56:03 Yeah. They go off the length of your hair. Unfortunately. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:56:06 That's why I keep, that's why I keep it short. I've got the little New York curl popping
Speaker 2 00:56:09 Up. You're, if you go short hair, like it's a lot less expensive, but they judge you off the length of your hair.
Speaker 3 00:56:14 Yeah. See, I, I think that's unfair.
Speaker 2 00:56:17 <laugh>, I'm a guy that like, all I really want to do, unless I gotta like touch the top of my head, like mostly I just get backs and sides. Yeah. Down to from a zero to like a half fade. Yeah. And so I'll go to Great Clips or sports clips. Like I, I get so much shit for that. But like, yeah. Honestly, if you can't do that, then you don't need to have a license and haircutting So
Speaker 3 00:56:37 <laugh>, dude. I know. I see. I never, I didn't go to a barber until I went to college cause my mom always cut my hair and she, cuz she did, she went and did that when she was in college. Where,
Speaker 1 00:56:46 Where'd you go to school?
Speaker 3 00:56:48 Uh, I went to Pensacola Christian College in Florida. Really?
Speaker 2 00:56:51 Yeah. <laugh>. That's near me. I almost went there. Really? <laugh>. Let's talk about that real quick. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:56:55 All right,
Speaker 2 00:56:56 Let's dive into this one. Let's do it. Because Pensacola Christian College man, like,
Speaker 3 00:57:01 Oh man.
Speaker 2 00:57:01 Oh man. Tell him,
Speaker 1 00:57:02 Tell, tell. Hold on. Tell, tell him where you ended up going.
Speaker 2 00:57:05 So I don't even know going here to Tribecca. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:57:07 Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:57:08 Yeah, yeah. But I'm from Atmore mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which is like right up the road from Pensacola over the state line. Yeah. So Pensacola Christian College is a very, very, very strict Yeah. College.
Speaker 3 00:57:21 Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 00:57:22 Sure. Like Matt, I, I'm, I don't know if this is still a rule, but it was when I was looking into it, guys and girls can't walk on the same side of the sidewalk. Oh wow. Like you can't see a girl's ankles. You have to, it's like leave campus <laugh>. You have to get, like, you have to write a request to leave campus and you have to have a chaperone go with you and you have to give how much of a notice?
Speaker 3 00:57:42 Mm, I think it's like a couple days. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:57:45 It's like a 48 hour notice and a chaperone has to go with you. They can't go to the beach. Which they're in a beach town. Yeah. Like there's so much stuff that they can't do. Temptation
Speaker 1 00:57:54 Is there.
Speaker 3 00:57:55 Well the the key word is you're not supposed to do those things.
Speaker 2 00:57:59 <laugh>. That's
Speaker 1 00:58:00 Why you were, that's why it wasn't for me. I mean I went
Speaker 2 00:58:01 To Christian college and cup a bottle of whiskey in my room for four years. <laugh> like, if you do it right, you can do it.
Speaker 3 00:58:07 Yeah. Well yeah, it was, ah, dude, it, I, I'll say this man, it was very strict and like for me, like I grew up in a Christian school like in high school and pretty, pretty much my whole life. Um, so I was used to having the rules and stuff and that, that didn't really bother me. Um, but yeah, living, living 15 minutes from the beach for a year and a half is probably, I say college wasn't for me, but I probably wasn't meant for college cuz I was on the beach the majority of the time I was there. Um,
Speaker 2 00:58:36 Yeah. And isn't that a rule? Like you're not supposed to Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:58:40 You they have like <laugh>. This is, yeah. Uh, <laugh>. It's just flashbacks. Sorry. No, you're good.
Speaker 1 00:58:48 PTSD, <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:58:49 No, no, no. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:58:50 Anytime I meet somebody that like goes there, I'm just like, tell me all about it. Everybody's made that choice.
Speaker 3 00:58:56 Everybody's so intrigued by, um, they're like, how did you survive a year there? I'm like, well, there's ways. Uh, no, but they had like, they have like designated beaches, um, for like students and they have a guys' beach and a girl's beach. Um, so <laugh>, it was, uh, I think they like owned part of, I think they owned the, those sections of the beach and they just like had 'em designated for that. But then you could go to the public Beach's
Speaker 1 00:59:23 Obvious girl girls wearing one pieces only and stuff like that. Or
Speaker 3 00:59:26 Cover. Don't know. I didn't, I never saw.
Speaker 1 00:59:27 Yeah, you never gotta go <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:59:29 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:59:30 I would never know. You know? Uh, no. It was, we, we, I don't think I ever saw that. I, I think we, we always just went to the public beaches because you can go like during the day and stuff. Um, and there's, I mean there's ways of doing stuff like <laugh> <laugh>. The biggest key is knowing people. Man. If you're, if you're buddies with some of the RAs, you know, you, you're, you're not gonna get in trouble for
Speaker 2 00:59:54 See like I am the ra who is completely oblivious to everything. Yeah. And so what I would do,
Speaker 3 00:59:59 That's just as good.
Speaker 2 01:00:00 Yeah. What I would do in my mini fridge,
Speaker 1 01:00:02 It's not better. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:00:03 In my mini fridge. So I could keep whiskey there. Cause there was a point where like I was drinking whiskey cuz that was the only way I could sleep in college. Yeah. Like I would take a shot or to a night and it would help me sleep. But the, uh, gold peak tea from Walmart. Mm. It looks like whiskey already. And so if you just take one of those out and pour it out and put your whiskey in there, then you're golden. Yeah. And use, I just would put a little silver dot on the top of it <laugh> and that was my whiskey. And I'd keep like an eight pack of the teas in there. So it was always like, I could Did you ever,
Speaker 1 01:00:33 Do you ever screw it up and Dr. And take a, take a tea swig from the whiskey bottle from the silver.you
Speaker 3 01:00:40 Would remember? No.
Speaker 2 01:00:41 <laugh> no. And even if I do, like I, I can drink whiskey like that. It's just, it's
Speaker 1 01:00:46 Just like with me, I pound tea. It wasn't
Speaker 2 01:00:48 Like I was doing bourbon. I was doing like Jack or like, you know, something like that. Like
Speaker 1 01:00:52 Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 01:00:53 It wasn't like anything bourbon or scotch wise. Like you could actually drink it. Like, it doesn't bother me live
Speaker 1 01:00:57 And live till you've accidentally taken a swig full of scotch. I'll tell you what. Oh man.
Speaker 2 01:01:02 When I first drank scotch, I didn't know how to drink it. So I didn't put it on any ice. I, I had it clean and I took it like I would take a shot. Wow. And that, yeah. I quickly learned after like turned
Speaker 3 01:01:14 Into a man real fast. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:01:15 <laugh>. Have a nice little coffin fan. Put
Speaker 1 01:01:17 Some, put some hair on your nuts right there. That's, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 3 01:01:20 Oh my goodness, dude. So
Speaker 1 01:01:21 What, so what do we got for the rest of 2020? Now? You, you sign a deal? That's, which is huge freaking news. Is that, are we the first podcast that you're on talking about all that?
Speaker 3 01:01:29 Yeah. You're my first podcast ever, bro. Dude,
Speaker 1 01:01:32 Dude, dude, dude, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:01:33 Bro. I Turkey.
Speaker 1 01:01:34 I totally just Turkeyed. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:01:35 <laugh>. No, that was me. I, yeah, that's my thing. No <laugh>. Uh, no, it's, it's, dude, I don't know man. Um, 2020. You know, it's, it's hard for me to like, cuz most people are like, man, 2020 was awful. You know, all this stuff. And I'm like, wasn't too bad, I guess, you know? But I don't know, man. It's do
Speaker 1 01:01:55 We got music coming soon? Because that's the big thing for you is like, I want, like, you don't have anything out right now. Correct? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And that's something that a lot of people, like, people want to hear your, your music being out, but now now you got this deal, obviously you're working with a team. Yeah. So now it's a whole different
Speaker 3 01:02:12 Approach. Yeah. Well I feel like I, I, before I move down here, I, I, you know, you always, you wanna put music out that's, you know, you want people to be able to hear your stuff. Um, but my whole thing was like, I've always wanted to be an artist and that was, I, I kind of saw that as my end goal always. Even if I was doing different roles, like doing track guy stuff or whatever, like my end goal was always to be an artist. And so I was like, I just don't wanna put out music before it's ready or before I know what I'm trying to do. Like, I feel like a lot of people mess up in that way as far as like, they, they don't know what their sound is and they just put music out, just, just
Speaker 1 01:02:50 Throwing darts at throwing darts at the wall.
Speaker 3 01:02:52 Yeah. And you know, the first decent song you write, it's like, oh, we gotta put it out. Like, sometimes I feel like it just kind of takes the freshness out of it, you know what I mean? And, and so I, I kind of was like that at least that was just my mindset and I was like, man, I don't wanna put something out before I'm ready. And um, you know, I had some good songs, but I just didn't know if they were me, you know? And so I just kind of held off on that and, and I'm kind of glad I did now at this point because nobody knows who I am, you know? And so yeah, you're
Speaker 1 01:03:23 You're very much one of the undiscovered little, little gems in town right now. And I mean that in all seriousness. Well, I
Speaker 3 01:03:28 Appreciate that. Yeah. But you know, it's just that I I feel like it's, it's kind of an edge right now because people are looking for fresh stuff, I feel like. So I don't know, man. I, I think, you know, as far as me putting out music, it'll probably be another year, um, before I get something out and Okay,
Speaker 1 01:03:44 Well, well, so we can hear you playing and stuff. We're gonna have you play here in a second. But also, yeah, when we get back to doing our writers' rounds, anytime you want to come and play and grace us with your presence so we can actually hear John Morgan songs. So we don't have to, cause we can't find 'em on Spotify or Apple Music or whatever yet. We will, um, you, you can come and play our damn raider whenever at Live Oak. That'll be, it's, it's a pleasure.
Speaker 3 01:04:03 It'd be fun. I'll be front row with right there
Speaker 1 01:04:06 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 01:04:07 Yeah. I I I would love to do that, man. I I I I love playing of y'alls around. I think I played it one time. You
Speaker 1 01:04:12 Played it with Cody? Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:04:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1 01:04:15 That's super fun. And I, I remember Zeb was in the audience. I remember JD Grover was in the audience. There were quite a few people in there that were like, mm-hmm. <affirmative>, how'd you get? Like, like how do you know John? I'm like, oh, that's, that's a homie. That's a, that's a funny right there. And yeah,
Speaker 3 01:04:25 <laugh>, we, we met very organically. Um, but yeah, man, I I, I love playing rounds. Um, we played the listening room the other night and it was like we, we'd played it, I think Jeff had gotten us a gig like the Saturday before. It was like a morning show. And that was the first time I'd played out in like, months, dude. Like, probably like six months at least. Um, cause I was playing, you know, I play guitar with Jeb when he does stuff. And uh, we played our last show at Wild Horse. Um, like, I wanna say, I can't even remember when all this stuff started, but was it like March or, it
Speaker 1 01:05:00 Was around March was around the St. Patrick's Day was one. I think that
Speaker 3 01:05:02 Was, I think that's like the last show I played out and then played that and played the listening room the other night with him and Will Bundy. And that was, it was a blast. It was just cool to get to play out and see people again, you know?
Speaker 1 01:05:15 Yeah. And the listening room is a landmark spot in this
Speaker 3 01:05:18 Town. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, uh, it's cool man. I, I like playing there. Um, they
Speaker 1 01:05:22 Got, they got great chicken tenders.
Speaker 3 01:05:24 Dude. I, I haven't eaten there. They got
Speaker 1 01:05:26 Really, really,
Speaker 2 01:05:27 Really? That's actually one of the only, oh, nevermind my listening here. I'm just thinking Wild Horse, nevermind. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:05:33 <laugh>
Speaker 3 01:05:33 Wild Horse is awesome too, man. I love playing.
Speaker 1 01:05:35 Yeah, that was, that was, I
Speaker 2 01:05:36 Was about to say, that's the only place I'll eat Fried Pickles from Really? Which I absolutely hate Pickles. <laugh>. Like, I get level 12 angry about pickles on myself. Pickle
Speaker 1 01:05:46 Rig
Speaker 2 01:05:46 <laugh>. Yeah, dude. Like I, I'm getting rage right now, my
Speaker 3 01:05:50 Pickles,
Speaker 2 01:05:50 So
Speaker 3 01:05:51 I don't, I don't have that much of a hate for pickles, but it's not the first thing I go to. Like do
Speaker 1 01:05:56 You, are you okay with them being on your Chick-fil-A sandwich?
Speaker 3 01:05:59 At first I wasn't, but now I just, I don't even take time. It adds a
Speaker 1 01:06:03 Nice, it adds a nice little crunch. He don't get 'em, he don't, he got, he has no pickles, <laugh>. Meanwhile, I know people that get extra pickles. Pickles
Speaker 2 01:06:09 Are just so invasive.
Speaker 3 01:06:11 <laugh>
Speaker 1 01:06:11 Invasive really?
Speaker 2 01:06:12 They leave their juice on something and it's their flavor. They
Speaker 1 01:06:15 Leave their mark. Man. It's, yeah,
Speaker 2 01:06:16 They're so invasive. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 01:06:19 I, I don't have a hate like that for pickles, but
Speaker 1 01:06:22 Do you have a hate like that for any kind of food?
Speaker 3 01:06:24 Uh, I don't think so. I don't think so. You're
Speaker 1 01:06:29 Really not a picky. I,
Speaker 3 01:06:30 I'm not really not. I, I used to, oh, I, I'll tell you one I don't like, I don't like, uh, black op Peas. Can't even look at black op Peas. Dude. I will throw up.
Speaker 1 01:06:40 I mean, Fergie's nice to look at, but yeah.
Speaker 3 01:06:42 <laugh>
Speaker 2 01:06:43 <laugh>
Speaker 3 01:06:44 Not bad <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:06:45 No, you're good man. Well, bro, if you want to, if you want to grab that guitar and stuff, um, we're going to, um, we're gonna get, um, yeah, dig it out. Yeah, yeah. You, you dig it on out. Um, John, thanks for coming on anywhere people can, uh, can find you. I know you don't got stuff out right now.
Speaker 3 01:06:59 Yeah, Instagram. Yeah, I've got some, I mean, I post some demos and stuff on
Speaker 1 01:07:02 Instagrams. You do, you do, you do a great job of posting videos and posting stuff on the story. So Instagram's the big one. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:07:07 Instagram's probably the, my most active thing. Um, I probably haven't been on Facebook in like a year.
Speaker 1 01:07:13 <laugh>. Yeah, and that's, well, you're, you're not missing out on anything. Facebook sucks
Speaker 3 01:07:16 Right now. Facebook's so political. I'm just like, Instagram's getting just to be just, and
Speaker 2 01:07:20 They're doing the whole thing where like they're gonna start kicking uh, band pages off for doing live streams and stuff. Facebook is so, yeah, it's not, it's not an artist friendly place anymore.
Speaker 1 01:07:29 Screw Marks Zuckerberg. But your Instagram handles what?
Speaker 3 01:07:32 Uh, John Morgan 95
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Speaker 1 01:08:44 They can find us at, in the round pod on Instagram in the round. On, on uh, Facebook. In the round pod on Twitter? Correct. Is it in the round pod on Instagram. In the round podcast?
Speaker 2 01:08:56 It's in the round podcast.
Speaker 1 01:08:56 In the round podcasts. Yeah. I'm, I'm fucking Twitter.
Speaker 2 01:08:58 Twitter has a limit on
Speaker 1 01:09:00 Characters. Twitter, Twitter's got a limit on characters but y'all can find us just a wandering Tyler and at Map Reel now that further ado, it's our boy John Morgan playing some songs for y'all. Y'all have been listening to the In the Round podcast.
Speaker 4 01:09:30 I did walk in there to find you. I didn't know what one I could do. Salting weaves in your hair killing me from I did walk in there to find you when the sun went down. I was buying you rounds top tequila by 2:00 AM I was telling you girl how bad I need you. I tried to forget you had in the morning and slow it down to keep going. Moving too fast and too far. We outta when But I never even found out where you from. Bunch of kisses. I remember everyone that look in your eyes that you couldn't hide. Yeah. We both knew what he was. I never even found out where he from. When the sun went downing slow. I did one I do when the sun went down I was buying you rounds of top tequila by 2:00 AM I was telling you girl how bad I need you. I tried to morning slow moving. Oh I did walk in. I don't fall apart when see your car, hear your name. I don't go to town. Drive by your house on memory lane. I don't want you, I don't want you back for a change. I got over the on
Speaker 4 01:14:04 You. Goodbye. It wasn't easy. Put a few hard years on the baby now that these back are living. I know it's killing you. See I got over you over me. I don't hide in the crowd or keep my eyes down when you walk and I can hear our song. Take it on night long. Tell them to play it again. Think about you. Not even. And I got the long there. You waking up pounding here I got more. You drank the, I hard on back to I know it's you see I giving you, it just came easy. I'll do what and try truth. As long as you believe it. I got the whiskey over there. You up pounding head. I got, wasn't put on back. Knows.
