Stephen Paul

Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is going on everybody? Welcome back to the End the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler here? What's up? And we've got our good buddy, Mr. Steven Paul. Steven, how the hell you doing? Speaker 2 00:00:22 I'm good, man. How the hell are y'all? It's Speaker 1 00:00:24 <laugh>. We're good, man. It's good to be back in Nashville. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:00:27 It's kind of weird. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:00:28 Yeah. Isn't it? It feels like we're, we're doing like an out of body experience, like looking down on like all of this. Like, is this real? Yeah. Is this 2020 a real thing? Yeah. For once in Speaker 3 00:00:36 The City of Broadway, as seen as the evil that it truly is. Speaker 2 00:00:39 Yeah, I know, right? Whew. It's getting bad down there. Speaker 1 00:00:42 Yeah, dude. It's, it's crazy. But what have, what have you been up to? How have you been doing? Speaker 2 00:00:45 I've been good, man. I was, uh, when, when quarantine first hit, I was down in Louisiana for about two months, and then I've kind of been back and forth since then. You know, uh, as you know, most of our writing sessions are online, so everything we're doing is online. And I had some shows there for a little bit while Broadway was opening just a tad bit. Um, but then that kind of all got shut down again. So basically I've been writing and sitting at home staring at a wall. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:01:10 Yeah. No, I, I feel like, dude, I've been all over God's creation bore. We just got back in town. We've been, Speaker 3 00:01:15 Yeah. So me and Matt went up to Delaware for two months, basically. Yeah. A little bit over two months. It was like 10 or 12 weeks. Speaker 1 00:01:20 And Delaware's a cool place to be like right now during the summer. You're right, because it's like on the beach and you got weather. It's a short town. We were up there in March, so it was the off season. Listen, Speaker 3 00:01:29 Man, I literally, like, it was the last week I was up there. It was the first week, last week of April. First week of May. And legit, I was still wearing a Carhartt jacket and sweatpants. Speaker 1 00:01:39 Oh, he's from Lower Alabama. Yeah, he's a, he's a south Alabama. I see. You get it here. You're in Louisiana. So it gets cold up Speaker 3 00:01:44 There. And I literally flew from Baltimore, DC airport to Houston, Texas where my girlfriend lives. And I got on the plane with sweats and that jacket and got off and immediately like took them off like, oh man, dude, it was, it was terrible. I literally went from 45 in DC to 95 in Houston. Speaker 2 00:02:03 Geez, man. Yeah, it's, I mean, you know, it, most Christmas mornings were in shorts and t-shirts. I mean, like, well, Speaker 1 00:02:09 And I'm out there shoveling snow. Exactly. Speaker 2 00:02:11 What is that? I Speaker 3 00:02:12 Don't know what that is. I grew up an hour from Pensacola Beach, so we'd go to the beach Speaker 2 00:02:15 For Christmas. Oh yeah. That's even more hot where you are. Yeah, I'm in north Louisiana, so we get a little bit, I mean, it's still hot, don't Speaker 1 00:02:19 Get me wrong. I haven't been to Louisiana a ton, but I've been through your town, I've been through, we've been through Monroe and some things I love about Louisiana. I've been to Baton Rouge, or we've been to Baton Rouge. He's probably been the LA a bit more than I have. Um, yeah. Quite a few times, <laugh>. But, um, yeah, so Baton Rouge, four hours, Baton Rouge was cool. We did the Texas Club. Okay. Yeah. Cause Baton Rouge is pretty dope. And Monroe was really cool. Yeah. We would, at Live Oaks, which I know you have a, you have some history there, right? Speaker 2 00:02:40 Yeah. So that was really the place that I started cutting my teeth in, in music. Um, I played at a place down the road, um, from Live Oak called Pickle Barrel. And then I would play Pickle Barrel and I play Live Oak and Dustin Underwood, the guy that, that runs the sound and pretty much gets all the acts and responsible for people getting there. Awesome guy. Um, you know, he gave me my first chance to play music and yeah, I was probably terrible, but, you know, like that's what's cool. Like, he, he brought me in and was like, here, man, you're a hometown guy. Here's your chance. And I've, you know, those, those still today are some of the, the best shows I've ever played. You know, being that was actually my first sold out show ever. We actually went against the fire, I think the, the fire marshal, whatever. Yeah. The, the limit's like maybe 500 people. But we, we put like six, 700 people in that, that bad boy. And, you know, it was, it was cool, man. And like, I don't know, there's something about playing in your hometown that's just special. Speaker 1 00:03:29 Yeah. And the, the folks in Louisiana are awesome. Um, and I've, and I've heard, I've learned the term. I first learned it when, um, I went to a Frank Foster show that my buddy was opening up for him out, out near Memphis. And I learned, I learned the term Kunas. Oh yeah. And the energy of just folks from Louisiana, just the Cajuns and just that lifestyle, most welcoming people. Yeah. You are some of the nicest people I've ever met. Some of the, when y'all kick it back and have some fun and get wild, y'all get wild. Speaker 2 00:03:53 Yeah. And, and I'll give you a little history lesson for those of you out there listening. Um, so North Louisiana is where I'm from, which is more of like the country side. Yeah. And then once you hit Alex Alexandria, which is about halfway down the state south, that's where it gets Cajun. And so people, a lot of times they'll, they'll ask me, man, you don't really sound like you're from Louisiana, cuz I'm just a, I'm just a country boy, you know? And I'm like, well, alright. There's a big difference. There's, there's Kon asses, there's Cajuns and then there's country folks. So like, there's, it's almost like an imaginary line, but it's a real line once you get about half, Speaker 3 00:04:25 Like, you know, like where I'm from in Alabama and stuff, like I live right on the floor line. Right. Not like North panhandle Florida. It is just south Alabama. Yeah. Extended. Exactly. Speaker 2 00:04:33 You know, they're Speaker 3 00:04:34 Basically South Speaker 2 00:04:35 Arkansas. Exactly. I'm telling you. But yeah, the people down there are awesome. Man. I miss, I I I miss, I miss home. I miss the food. I'm sure, you know, we were talking about that, Speaker 1 00:04:43 Right? Yeah. So you, um, so if you're driving in Louisiana and you pull over to like a gas station, like a good old, like mom and pop stop, what are you getting for food? Cuz I'll tell you what I got. I really Speaker 2 00:04:52 Liked it. So they're know like hot, like bowl peanuts are like a big thing. Yeah. Um, I, that's never really been my thing. Um, but you can get like cracklings, you know? And, uh, Speaker 1 00:05:01 Yeah, I had those, they were excellent. What, Speaker 2 00:05:03 What did you get? Boan balls. Oh, Boan balls. Well, you went to the good parts of Louisiana. Yeah. Cause like a lot of gas stations don't have that in north Louisiana, but once you get the Speaker 3 00:05:11 South, I'll tell you, I got there, I got some duck wing ta uh, quesadillas. Speaker 2 00:05:15 Ooh, really? Yeah, man, I haven't had boan in a long time and that stuff is good. Yeah. Yeah. What did, what did you think? What was your like experience? What, Speaker 1 00:05:24 I'll tell you what I've learned quickly about Louisiana food. I, I immediately like, so my first time, what the guys like to do, me being damn Yankee burn, well they like, they like to mess with me and like, tell me to get oh, so much fun. Tell me to get like these things. So like <laugh>, we'll go into like, we'll be in like bum fuck somewhere to Mississippi and we'll go in, they'll be like, Ooh, you gotta try the chicken gizzards southern delicacy. You gotta eat gizzards. Speaker 3 00:05:45 Like him go first. And so he orders his head and then we walk up to the counter like, yeah, lemme get the chicken tenders <laugh>. Like I was, Speaker 1 00:05:49 I was wearing, I was wearing my, my Yankees hat. And the, the, the old ladies, the nice sweet old ladies at these gas stations are at these little stops. They were like, are you sure? You sure sweetheart, you sure you want to get these gizzards? I'm like, yeah, let me get 'em. I'm in Mississippi Speaker 2 00:06:01 Wine, pickled quell eggs or something like that. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:03 <laugh>, they watched, they, then they would, they were looking out the window, they watching me eat 'em. And I Speaker 2 00:06:07 Was like, Speaker 1 00:06:07 Oh. So Louisiana, I, Speaker 2 00:06:09 It's like hazing, you know? It's, it's a rite of passage. Oh, absolutely. But now, now you're a part of the family. Yeah. Oh yeah. You've been inducted. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:06:14 I, I've loved the, the boo boats we're selling a fuck with 'em. <laugh> and then the, and then the crawfish at a place that you've been at Cornea's. Speaker 2 00:06:20 Yeah. I believe y'all were at Cormier's. Yeah. Um, there's, there's several places around there, but they have some of the best crawfish in town. Speaker 1 00:06:25 And we, and we were, there was, it would be February. Yeah, we Speaker 3 00:06:28 Were there. It was the last weekend of February. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:30 So that was basically the very beginning. So crawfish season of springtime, it does run into the summer, but basically the height of crawfish season is during the spring. Right. Um, that's when, when all the restaurants are are doing and the crawfish are their best. So you, you came at a, at a great time, you know, right there at spring they Speaker 3 00:06:44 Were, they were massive. I tell you what, the thing that sucked is, the night before I'd split my Speaker 2 00:06:48 Thumb Oh no. Open Speaker 3 00:06:50 And like, I kind of had to like glue it back together. Well, that day, peeling crawfish and stuff that opened back up, I could only eat like two and a half, three pounds of them because the seasoning was getting into that cut and was like, I couldn't feel my thumb. But it wasn't like, it's one of those sensations that like it was burning. Right. But it wasn't ever going numb. Oh. I had to like call quits y Speaker 1 00:07:10 Y'all love your shit hot. Speaker 2 00:07:11 We do. It's, it's very hot. I mean it's spice. I introduced them spice, Speaker 3 00:07:15 I introduced him to some good jumbalaya that I make. Whew. Speaker 2 00:07:18 Yeah. So we put Tony's on everything. I don't know if you know what Tony's is. I've heard of it. So Tony Sre is like the seasoned salt of, especially Louisiana, but a lot of the south too. Um, you know, it's like you ever heard of that spice called Slap your Mama? Yes. It's kind of like the same vein, you know, it's that, that really spicy, uh, seasoned salt kind of thing. We put it on Speaker 3 00:07:36 What I had up in Jersey. Okay. Or up in Delaware that's putting on everything. Oh Speaker 2 00:07:39 Yeah. Makes everything taste better. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:07:41 You know, like you put literally on everything. Speaker 1 00:07:43 Yeah, dude, I've, I've, I like Louisiana a lot and I can't wait to, to go back there and, and check it out. So with, with sports too. So y'all had a pretty good football season, huh? Speaker 2 00:07:52 Yeah. I mean I kept man as, as an LSU fan and being on the same side as Alabama. Like, you always, you know, like, man, I think this is the year, but at the same time you don't want to get your hopes up too high cuz it's, it's Alabama. I mean like, they got a heck of a program. Exactly. They, I mean, they took our coach, I'm not gonna talk about it, but, uh, Speaker 3 00:08:10 He left y'all for something else. He Speaker 2 00:08:12 Did, he did. I, I can't blame him. He's trying to move his career and whatever, but, uh, and so you're always kinda waiting. You're like, man, we got a really good season, but you still gotta get over Alabama. Like that's the, the big brother. And this year, man, I just kept waiting. I was like, man, I want to get super, super pumped up. But it's like, uh, but they just, I truly believe they were one of the best college football teams ever. Yeah. I mean they just, they just had a once in a generation team from Speaker 1 00:08:36 Top to bottom, Speaker 2 00:08:37 Top to Bo. I mean, everything fell into place where, you know, Joe Brady coming, like literally everything just worked perfectly. It's like the stars align and they didn't miss a beat, you know, even the national championship, it was close at first, but that was because they started inside their five yard line, like the first three drives or Speaker 1 00:08:53 Something. Yeah. Field position was tough Speaker 2 00:08:54 And then all of a sudden they got some, you know, and they just, it's, Speaker 1 00:08:57 And to win it in New Orleans Oh, to win it in. No. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:09:01 You know what the, the very first LSU game I ever went to was, when did they win the first national championship? 2000 thousand three. Two or three. I should know that. But that, they played that in New Orleans as well. They played against, uh, Oklahoma. And uh, that was my first LSU game. I was, shoot, I was, I was young, I was in middle school probably, and I remember the, the very first play of the game, Justin Vincent, who was the running back at the time, broke like 75 yards of the house. And that place was so loud. Me and you cannot have a conversation. Yeah. Like, it was, it was insane. So I can only imagine. Yeah. What, what this year it sounded like, Speaker 3 00:09:35 Um, it's funny, I just thought of this basically the whole Alabama LSU game. Usually how I'm an Alabama fan by the way. Yeah. I'm from Alabama. Yeah. Yeah. But usually it's like the scene in Hot Rod where hot rod goes down to the basement to try to beat his stepdad and Alabama's the stepdad. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:09:53 It's like Speaker 3 00:09:53 You just, you just can't. And once every now and then we are sick and he can beat us. But like, for the most part, Speaker 1 00:09:58 I remember when it was like the games were like six to three and it was like those defensive guys. Speaker 2 00:10:03 Oh, the George Jefferson years. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 00:10:04 Those were the games. I, I'm a big defensive guy. Like I love just the good, like Speaker 2 00:10:09 I do to an extent. Like I, I still want there to be some scoring, you know, cuz I don't like a field Speaker 1 00:10:16 Goal game, which is why you love a guy like Joe Brady coming in and, and for him to have a guy like Joe Bur at his disposal. Speaker 2 00:10:21 No, I don't, I don't like what is it like out in Texas? Like they're score scoring like 60 points a game right now. Speaker 1 00:10:26 Every athlete plays on the offensive side of Speaker 2 00:10:28 The ball. It's like, no, no, no. Speaker 3 00:10:29 A good score to me is like a 2117 game Perfect, Speaker 2 00:10:32 Perfect score. You know, there's, there's both great offense and great defense and you know, time management, all that things. So just slinging it up in the air and Speaker 3 00:10:40 I will say had to have been healthy. I think it's a different game. Speaker 2 00:10:45 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:10:46 We'll see, we'll see how he does in Miami. That's an interesting place for him to Speaker 2 00:10:49 Go. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:10:50 I think he sits a year, I don't think he starts this year. I think they sit him a year and purposely flunk out the season again. And then they get a good offensive lineman in the draft. That way they can protect him because he's shown in college that if you don't protect him Oh, if you're screwed, yeah. He's gonna get hurt. Speaker 2 00:11:04 I mean, you think about it, that's every quarterback, I mean, it, it starts, you gotta have, you gotta have a line. I mean, especially in the nfl. Cause you get, Speaker 1 00:11:12 I'm, I'm, I'm a Giants fan. I know you get, you get Speaker 2 00:11:14 Know you get Max what, three seconds in the nfl. Yeah. And you know, if that three seconds gets cut down to two seconds, I mean what a world of difference that makes. Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:11:22 Well that's the thing. Like shorten deli's career, we talked Speaker 3 00:11:24 About this before, we talked about this before. Matt Ryan mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Matt Ryan, the years that he's been really great, he's gotten that three seconds last two years. He's got less than 2.5 seconds to get the ball off. And you see what has done to him as a quarterback, you can't let those threats like Julio and Calvin and Sonu and we had him get open. If you don't have the time to throw it, it's Speaker 2 00:11:46 Gotta develop. Right. The the routes. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's crazy. But that's where, that's where it all starts in the trenches. I mean, you know, it, it's, it's, you gotta start up front and protect your quarterback and that's, you know, a lot of people give the quarterbacks flag because it's all about, you know, they can't get hit or whatever. And I understand it to extent, at the same time, if you lose a quarterback, you lose a franchise, you know, so. Absolutely. You know, it's all about protecting the franchise. And if you know, you, you lose, I mean, Speaker 3 00:12:09 And really like baseball is the, are not baseball, sorry I'm making another point here about baseball. But like football's that one sport where if you lose your star quarterback, you're done for the year pretty much. Yeah. Whereas in baseball, if you lose your ace pitcher, you can still maybe put it together to where, where cuz it's not the quarter, the ace pitcher in baseball isn't playing every single game. He's one of five. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of five. Yeah. He might be your best, but now your second best is gonna be your best. You know, like you get replaced. But like quarterbacks in football, like they are Yeah. Your, that and your left tackle. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:12:42 They're, Speaker 3 00:12:43 They're blindside tackle, you know, is your most too important players on the field. Speaker 2 00:12:47 Yeah. It's, it's crazy man. But, uh, yeah, I'm excited. I mean it was a great year for LSU and you know, saints had a good year too, even though they didn't, they didn't win the Super Bowl, but, you know, we can't win it every year. But, Speaker 1 00:12:56 So you didn't go to lsu, you went to Louisiana Monroe. Correct. Speaker 2 00:12:59 So I started Louisiana Tech, which is in Rustin. I don't, I don't know if, did y'all ever play, uh, RABs or the rivalry? Um, uh, Speaker 1 00:13:07 Probably we played the rev room in Speaker 3 00:13:10 Arkansas. No, that's, that's, that's something different. Revelry. Yeah. We haven't played there Speaker 2 00:13:13 Yet. Okay. I'm sure y'all will eventually get there. It's a really awesome venue. Um, in, in Rustin, Louisiana where Louisiana Tick is. So I started Louisiana Tech, went there for three and a half years, and then I finished up at Louisiana Monroe. So what, Speaker 1 00:13:24 What were you studying in college? Speaker 2 00:13:25 So I kind of did a crazy route. So I was a smart kid in high school. I graduated valedictorian, my high school of West Monroe. And so I thought maybe I wanted to be a doctor or something like that. Cuz you know, if you make, see, Speaker 1 00:13:38 I can see it. You're very well, you look like a freaking doctor, you know? Well if, Speaker 2 00:13:41 If you make good grades, you know, you know, you've always hurried like you're gonna be a doctor lawyer, all these like things, these upstanding jobs or whatever. And so I actually went into tech and I was in biology my freshman year, end up acing all my classes. But I was like, man, this is, this stinks. Like I, I don't want to be a doctor like this. This isn't a passion of mine. Like I hope, you know, I, I want whoever my doctor is to really care about medicine. And I was like, that's just not a passion for me. So I, uh, I switched over to electrical engineering actually and did that for two and a half years. And I was just about to graduate and I decided I didn't wanna do that either. So I was like, I'll tell you what, that was the most awkward conversations I've ever had to have. Speaker 2 00:14:20 So I wanted to transfer from Louisiana Tech, which is on a quarter system to Louisiana Monroe, which is on a semester system. And I was in this, if you can follow me, I was on in the winter quarter and the spring semester was about to start at, at in Monroe. So in order, you can't be enrolled in two colleges at once. So I technically had to drop out of Louisiana Tech to start back in Monroe. So I was, I was in, I believe I was upper level junior classes, maybe even senior classes at the time. And I, I think I had one of the highest grades in just about every single one of my classes. And so I had to go to each one of my professors and get them to sign a slip saying I was dropping out of college Speaker 1 00:15:00 <laugh> when they're like, whoa. Speaker 2 00:15:01 And they looked at me and they were like, son, I mean like, is are you, are you all right? Like, cuz they thought maybe like I was being threatened or like, I mean, there's no telling, like you, you have a kid that's, you know, acing your classes and then he comes up to you and he's like, man, I'm already, I'm gonna drop out. You know, like, what, what, what do you what? No, like, I'm not gonna, so they're like, son, I mean I, I kind of advise you against doing this, but I mean, it's your life. Do what you wanna do. And, you know, ended up being one of the best decision I ever made. So I transferred back to Monroe and I finished up with a strictly mathematics degree. Um, so I've, I've got a math degree. I'm a, I'm a math nerd. Um, but then I ended up, uh, working in insurance for about a year and, and I was, at the time I was playing some cover bands around town and Monroe and I was playing at Live Oak. And then I just decided, you know what, I can't do this either. I'm ready to go play music for a living. So I just picked up and moved to Nashville without even visiting here before. And you know, October will be six years, man. So it's, Speaker 1 00:15:57 Congratulations. That's Speaker 2 00:15:58 Awesome. Thank you. It's, it was, it's been a crazy journey, but I met some of my, my closest friends I still have today. Like, um, even in Dawson's, one of the, I mean he was an early friend that I met, uh, when I first moved to town and I'm still friends with today, you know, and so I feel like the majority of my friends that I had when I first moved to town are still in Nashville chasing this dream, which has been super cool to have that support system around, you know? Speaker 1 00:16:21 Yeah. And there, there's a lot of Louisiana and Nashville right now. Y'all are making some noise. Speaker 2 00:16:25 I'm telling you there for a while was, it was Georgia and they, uh, you know, a lot of Georgia artists were coming out and you know, it, it all comes in in waves. Like typically, you know, the way it works is that you, you grow up with these people singing and playing these local bars, then you all kind of grow together. And it's that same way with Louisiana, you know, especially like Laney just signed a record deal not too long ago and she's, Speaker 1 00:16:46 Yeah. How, how'd you, did you know her down in Louisiana before coming up here? Speaker 2 00:16:50 Not really. I mean, I had met her before, um, but I don't, I wasn't like friends with her, um, and that, that sake. But we've become pretty good friends and I, you know, I just, that's so awesome what she's doing. You know, I, uh, I remember we played a show together back in Louisiana, it had to be two or three years ago. And, uh, she hadn't signed a record deal yet. And I, you know, I think she was kinda getting frustrated a little bit with, you know, because obviously she has all the talent in the world. Yeah. And just things weren't happening, but then all of a sudden they did. And rightfully so. She deserves it. Um, but it's so cool to watch people that come from, cuz she's from Baskin, which isn't too far from where I'm from. And just to watch people who had this, this insane talent finally get recognized and get the platform that they always deserve. Speaker 1 00:17:34 And there's some, there's some guys coming up behind you too. He got guys like Garrett Jacobs. Yeah, man, he's, man, he's a Louisiana kid. You gotta hit a young kid like Jayden Hamilton, there's Oh yeah. LA's getting coming back man. Speaker 2 00:17:44 Yeah. And then obviously like Tim started it all, you Speaker 1 00:17:47 Know, and then somebody like c CJ is Speaker 2 00:17:49 Another one. Yeah. I, I write with CJ sometimes. He's, he's an awesome guy. And so there's, there's a lot of underground, what I call underground Louisiana artists or songwriters that are really starting to make a name for themselves here in town. So it's, it's really cool. I'm, you know, you know, it's something special about being proud of your home state and like watching people that come from your home state. Yeah. Succeed in country music. Speaker 1 00:18:09 Absolutely. And you put up a cool picture. So my first concert as a kid was a Tim McGraw concert. I grew up, oh man, I was a diehard Tim McGraw fan in my family. I would be riding around my grandma's Ford Wind Star listening to Tim McGraw Greatest Hits. The first one, that kid. Oh yeah. Where that like Indian Outlook. Oh yeah. And like on the down on the farm, which you talked, you put up that picture Little Baby Steven Paul with Yeah. With um, with Tim. And, and who was the who, who else was in that picture? Was it your My sister. Your sister. Yeah. So Speaker 2 00:18:34 She's a couple years older than me. Speaker 1 00:18:35 So what's the story of that was the, it was the music video for something. Speaker 2 00:18:38 It was, so he went, he went back and filmed down on the farm. I honestly, I was, I was young and I probably should remember, but I don't really remember it, but it was somewhere back in northeast Louisiana and he filmed it and from what I heard it was a really hot day. And they sang the song a million times, like you would think. Um, but I believe that picture was backstage. We have to go backstage and hang out with him. And, uh, cuz you know, he went to school in Monroe. Yeah. He's, Speaker 1 00:19:01 He's very proud of that. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:19:02 Yeah. So it Speaker 1 00:19:03 Was, he reps la Speaker 2 00:19:04 It was northeast Louisiana. My dad went there too, so they were in school at the same time. But, um, it was northeast Louisiana University and they were the Indians at the time. Um, but they changed to the warhawks, you know, several years back. But, uh, yeah man, so it was cool to have that part of history. And I, I was actually talking to another friend of mine, I was like, I know my dad's got some pictures, so I, I asked him and he's, he's dig through some old photo books and he sent me that picture of me hanging out with Tim. It kinda looks like, it kinda looks like Eric Church in that the picture a little bit. Yeah. He's got the Ray bands and the kind of the, the dark, the mark as, yeah. So it's, it's cool man. Speaker 1 00:19:36 Yeah, no. Did you grow up listening? Was Tim McGraw one of those influences for Speaker 2 00:19:39 Him? Yeah, man, he was, he was, and probably still is my biggest influence, um, as far as the way I like to write music. Especially like his, you know, early two thousands and, and before like the early nineties, the just the, the storytelling of the nineties country era is so cool to me, you know? And I grew up on those records and the all I Want record, um, I believe that one has Indian Outlaw on it. Um, I, I still listen to it all the time, like just about once a week I go through that record and try to try to pick it apart and see how I can improve my songwriting, my listen to it. So, um, yeah, man, I'm a, I'm a huge Tim fan and it's really cool that he's from Louisiana as well. So Speaker 1 00:20:18 It, the nineties, the appreciation for the storytelling and stuff Yeah. Really shows in your music, especially with your latest project with the Off My Chest ep, which Off My Chest, one of my favorites. Oh, thanks. And, and that's one where when, when you're in town at a writer's round and you're up on stage playing it, people are like, oh shit, who's this? Like, yeah man, it's, it's a, it's a killer song and leaving Louisiana a big one, Speaker 2 00:20:37 Two, Speaker 1 00:20:38 And, but tho and a lot of your songs, they tell those stories like that nineties style Speaker 2 00:20:42 And that's, that's what I love, especially Tim's his way of doing it. He, he can tell stories that lyrically might feel a little sad, but the music and everything around it just kind of puts you in this, I don't know, man, like, I don't know if you remember that song, Telluride? Yes. Speaker 1 00:20:56 Oh yeah. So it's that, that was, that was in my first albums I ever bought. It's, Speaker 2 00:20:59 It's that type of songwriting where it's like he kind of got his heartbroken and in a, in a mountain town or whatever, but it's like, it just makes you feel, I don't know, it feels good. So, um, that's what I try to do and try to channel and toe that line between like, you know, it could technically be sad lyrics, but you know, it still feels right. And I think I did the same thing with the first song on that record. Uh, another Good by Anne-Marie. It kind of is that vein where the lyrics can be a little sad cuz it's a little bit about a breakup, but it still has that energy and like, feel nostalgia kind of thing behind it. So. Speaker 1 00:21:31 Yeah. And another thing you did pretty recently, you had posted, I think it was pretty recently, the Off My Chest video. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:21:37 Man. What was Speaker 1 00:21:37 Shooting that? Like, you guys were in a jail. How, what was that process? Was it Speaker 2 00:21:41 Incredible? So Randy Allen, who is, um, who's, he works for a lot of people, but his, his primary gig, he's on the road with Chris Lane. He does all of Chris's stuff and, uh, I got to work with him, I guess we started working together, you know, within the last couple of years. And he's become a part of my team. And I told him, I was like, man, I, you know, because the Leaving Louisiana video, we were just kind of driving through the country and it was, it was great, it was fun. Uh, and then with the Looking for Me video, we did like a live bar scene at Tin Roof and we did a live band and that was awesome. But I told him for this one, I was like, man, I just really want to do something a little more interpretive. You know, obviously with that song, lyrically you can go step by step of what exactly has happened, start to finish in that song and you can make a music video Exactly. Speaker 2 00:22:24 Following the lyrics. But I was like, man, what if we just did something a little metaphorical, you know, where it's like the worst thing you can do is break a girl's heart. That should be the worst crime, right? You can do is, and and it's all metaphorical, whatever. And he had just shot at a jail, like a, a, a fake jail, um, over there in the Wedgewood Houston area. And he's like, dude, that would be perfect. So we brainstormed and he came up with some crazy storylines and my team, we sat down and I think it turned out awesome, dude. It was, it was so much fun becoming an actor for a little bit because, you know, like we don't get to do much of that stuff. And, um, Allie, the girl that was the, the lead female in there, you know, that was one of the coolest scenes. Speaker 2 00:23:02 So at the end, or I guess technically in the beginning of the, the video, but it was when we got done filming, we shot that scene and she's, she's fantastic. Like, she's like a real actress. Like she's, she's awesome. And I, I have no experience in that field. So we're, we're literally sitting on the couch like this and, you know, we're trying to portray a breakup scene. And so we start acting and she made me feel like I broke her heart. Like she was so good. The very first scene that we shot was pretty much the majority of, uh, the intro of that video. And like, there was probably 10 other people in the room and we got done acting and everyone was just like dead silent. And everyone was like, oh, shit. Like, that hurt me. Like, and it was so cool that, and I, and I gained such a bigger appreciation cuz I mean, I love movies and that kind of thing, but like acting is such an art and to sit there and she, she's so good at what she does that she was able to put me in a role. Like, I felt like I truly broke her heart and I was trying to get her back and she wasn't having it, you know? So it was, I mean, the whole experience was, was, was incredible. And, uh, I'm just glad I got to be a part of it, to be honest with you. Speaker 1 00:24:11 Yeah, dude. It's, it's, it's awesome. And the fact that you're now, you've fast forward, you've, so it's been, it'll be six years in October. Yeah. Now you're putting out, you're putting out fricking putting out music videos, like you're, you're doing the damn thing. Speaker 2 00:24:22 We're doing it, man. Uh, you know, we, we definitely were hoping for, for bigger things this year. Obviously the world has a lot bigger issues and, you know, I'm not the only one dealing with it, but, you know, we were hoping this year was really gonna be that year that would really set me up for, for big things next year. And, uh, obviously that's gotten pushed back a little bit, but we're, we're still fighting and grinding and, um, you know, we are, we're expecting really big things on the horizon. And all I can do now is just keep putting out good music and uh, just keep playing shows and making fans whatever way we can do that these days, you know, whether it be on podcast or, you know, virtual shows, you know, we all, you mean, you know, you have to adjust as well. So Yeah, we just have to, we have to adjust with the times and make the best of it. And one day we'll look back like, damn, we had a hell of a comeback story, didn't we? You know, so. Speaker 1 00:25:06 Absolutely. Speaker 2 00:25:07 So I'm, I'm, I'm excited for the future and I know you guys are too. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:25:11 Dude, we're, we're trying, what's it been like writing over Zoom? I've asked a lot of people this a lot. It was, it was a question I asked a lot when we were recording these episodes. Not in person. I was like, what's it like writing with somebody over a computer, over a phone screen? Speaker 2 00:25:22 I'll tell you what, man, I think it's different from me because I've been here for so long or six years. I mean, I think it's real long. A lot of people, that's not long at all, but in Nashville, man, Speaker 3 00:25:32 That's an eternity, Speaker 2 00:25:33 Right? So it'll be, it'll be Speaker 1 00:25:34 Too, it'll be, I feel like I've been here a while. Speaker 2 00:25:36 Do I have wrinkles? I probably, I didn't have any last week. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:25:39 I mean, I'm a month from my seven years here in town and it's Speaker 2 00:25:42 Just, it's crazy, right? How fast, it feels like a lifetime. It does. Um, but it also feels like I just moved here yesterday, but most of the people that I'm riding with on Zoom, um, and will even mention cj uh, they're buddies of mine. And so even though you still don't get that, that vibe like you do in a room that, you know, I mean like, we're sitting here, we're hanging out, it's just an atmosphere and you don't quite get that. And there's, the hardest part to me is only one person can talk at a time on a Zoom app. And so like, if, if one, I mean, I guess we all can talk, but if one person's talking it kind of drowns out. Like they're not gonna be able to hear me if they're talking cuz or whatever. So yeah, for sure that, that's been the hardest adjustment. Um, but other than that, man, I've, I've written some really good songs on Zoom, so maybe I'm just spoiled. I don't know. But, um, I'm definitely ready to get back in the room with somebody. Um, but you know, at the same time, we all gotta be careful and we gotta figure out a way to make this thing short as possible, you know? Yeah, no, dude. Absolutely. So we can get back to normal life Speaker 1 00:26:41 Absolutely. So we could all get back out on the road. So you, you've been, you've gotten to tour some cool places. Yeah. Where's a place where you're like, oh shit, I'm playing here tonight. Like, I, I ain't in Monroe, Louisiana anymore. Like, Speaker 2 00:26:52 Man, I'm trying to think. I've, I've literally, last year I played pretty much all four corners of, I, you know, I was in California then in Arizona, then I was up in Pittsburgh and I was in Florida. So I've, I've played all over the map, man. I tell you what, one of the coolest shows I played, um, to date was last year. So Dylan Scott puts on this thing in Monroe, another Speaker 1 00:27:12 Louisiana guy. Yeah. So there we go. Didn't even mention him. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:27:15 Yeah. He's, uh, and he's, you know, I, I think he's, he's one song away from being, you know, one, one more, number one before being like, yeah, the man, you know, that's obviously a process. And he's had a few hits, but I think one more. And he'll be, you know, mega megastar. So he's already, he's already a star. But, um, but he puts on this thing in Monroe called Bayou Stock, and it was a spinoff of what Tim McGraw used to do called Swamp Stock. And you know, Northeast Louisiana really doesn't have that many big venues for big art, you know, has Live Oak, but that's a smaller venue. Yeah. You know, five, 600 people and it's either that or you go to Shreveport to the Central. Speaker 3 00:27:49 Also the way that Live Oak is like laid out. Speaker 2 00:27:51 It's hard. Yeah. It's, it's, it's like a kind of like an L-shaped Speaker 1 00:27:54 Yeah. Thing like, like for me, where I was in merch land, I was over by the front door. You can't see the state. Yeah. I, I'm not seeing anything going on Speaker 3 00:28:00 <laugh>. Yeah. And then like, also the way the speakers, they said they were redoing the thing like the week after we played it, they said they were redoing it, but like the way the speakers are, like, they're pointed at that back wall. Like if you're around that l you're kind of outta Speaker 2 00:28:13 Luck. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's definitely, you gotta be jam packed in the front, but, uh, Dylan puts on that thing in, in Monroe and I've played it. He's, he's done it two years in a row. I don't, I mean, he had messaged me and said that he was gonna think about doing it this year, but I just, I don't see a way it's gonna happen. But, um, it's a big festival and there were about 4,500 people there the first year, um, two years ago. And then last year there had to be, I don't know, between 10 and 15,000 people there. Speaker 1 00:28:39 And that's, that's a little bit of growth. Speaker 2 00:28:40 <laugh> man, it was crazy. And for me to be a part of that, cuz uh, he was, he was a headliner, but Neil McCoy, I got to hang out with him, is one of the, one of the best entertainers I've ever seen in my life. I mean, that guy, even if you don't like country music or never even heard a song of his, which I think everyone should have at least heard Wink or something like that. Right. But, um, he just draws you in. And I, I'll tell you what, I, I, I gained a lot from just watching him, but like, he was on there and Chris Lane and John Langston. And so it was cool to, to be around guys who have been on the road a whole lot more than I have. And to be able to sing to that big of a crowd and, uh, to have, you know, at the time I was, I was the first act, so it wasn't completely full yet, but there were several thousand people already there. And to have people screaming, leaving Louisiana, I actually posted a video on my Instagram, but people were screaming leaving Louisiana back to me. And I actually started like, tearing up on stage. Man, that's, Speaker 1 00:29:33 That's a, it's that was that, that was that, is that a true story? Speaker 2 00:29:36 It is. I'm, I'm a very, so the first time it happened, I, I'm not saying I'm a, a crier, but I definitely am an emotional guy. Speaker 1 00:29:42 I I'm, I'm an emotional guy. I feel that. Speaker 2 00:29:44 And, and I think it's, it comes from the place that we work so hard and we play so many crappy shows to nobody. And then I remember the first time it happened, I was actually at Live Oak in or Live Oaks, whatever the one is here. One of 'em has s Yeah. Speaker 1 00:30:01 Why Yvo is here. Live Oaks is Speaker 2 00:30:03 Down there. Yeah. I get confused now. They have the same name. Speaker 1 00:30:05 I do too. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:30:06 <laugh> and I played a, uh, I played a showcase and that was the first time that I stopped singing and the whole room sang that song back to me. And I did, I teared up on stage. I was like, man, this is, this is the craziest feeling, you know? And it happened again at Bayou Stock, which a much bigger crowd, several thousand people Speaker 1 00:30:23 In, in Monroe, Louisiana. In my hometown. In your hometown. Speaker 2 00:30:26 Because some days you're like, man, like am I doing the right things? Am I writing the right songs? Am I like, is it something I'm doing that maybe isn't, I'm not where I want to be? Or is it just a process? You know, all these things go through your mind when you're an artist and you just, you have so many questions, but then a moment like that happens and you're like, man, I'm doing the right things. I'm in the right place. God's got me right where he wants me. And to hear that back, man, I did. I, I mean you can, you can see the video on Instagram. I had to turn around cause I was tearing up man. And it, it just, you know, it it's moments like that that keep you going and, and keep you, keep you working hard and writing songs, it's like, cuz there's people out there that do love you and love your music and whether you know it or not, they're, they're listening. So it's, it was, it was a cool experience. Speaker 3 00:31:11 Those experiences are always cool and it's always cool to like see other people experience those. You, I always call 'em the Mama I Made at Moments. Speaker 2 00:31:19 Yeah. And that was one of those moments, man. It just, you know, I mean if I, if I never get to play another show, it's like that's, that's one of those moments that it's just like I can, I'll be telling my grandkids that story one day. It's like, and I might be that an old annoying grandpa. It's like, back in my day, Shunny, uh, I had ki I had all these hot women singing my song, you know? And, but you know, it's just, you know, it's, it's moments like that that, that truly make this, this process, which, you know, y'all see it firsthand. It's really, really hard. I mean, it's not for being a musician or being involved in music in any way is not for the faint of heart. You know, it's, uh, there's a, you put all these hours in just for, you know, an hour of, you know, a show, you know, and you, Speaker 1 00:32:00 Or, or three minutes and 45 seconds on a song. Exactly. You put all, all this money, all this time, all this energy. Exactly. Speaker 3 00:32:06 I think one of my favorite lines out of a sign out of a song, do you know who Donovan Wood is? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. That song, uh, Charles Kelly of Lady A Cut it and it's the Pour Your Heart, pour your Heart out in three 20, the one you didn't write for money. Yeah. Like that line like Speaker 2 00:32:23 Telling you, because like, the, the songs that typically mean the most to artists aren't the songs that are ever gonna be heard by the masses. You know, every once in a while a song that's really straight from the gut will make it to mainstream. Speaker 1 00:32:35 Now. Now is there a song for you that you have right now that that is that? Speaker 2 00:32:39 Um, I definitely have, I definitely have a few of them that, you know, eventually I'll put out there, you know, okay. Whenever the Time's. Right. But, uh, just some things that I've gone through in my life and relationships I've been in and you know, in order to move past those relationships, I had to write a song that really hurt while you're writing it, you know, but you know, it almost kind of heals you in the process. I mean, that's why I started doing it because, I mean, for the most part, dudes don't, they don't need a, we don't need to go talk to somebody. We, we kind of tend to keep things bottled up and, you know, that's just kind of like the macho thing in us. We just, that's just what we do. And, uh, so being able, for me, I'm, I'm that way. And so I like to channel my emotions into a song and that's the best way I know how to lack of better words, get things off my chest, you know? So like, that's just, that's just what I do. So, Speaker 3 00:33:27 And like I think that is becoming a more popular thing, honestly, like, especially with Spotify and stuff, is people are looking for that realness and songs. Yeah. And you've got people, you know, like the old Noah Gunderson stuff, the, a lot of Jason Isabel's stuff. You've got Donovan Woods, you've got some of the Tyler Childers's early stuff, right. You've got guys like Jeffrey Martin, even like, people like Billy Eilish, like a lot of that stuff, like if you actually look at the lyrics, like it's Speaker 1 00:33:53 These shit's Speaker 2 00:33:54 Real, people want real, you know, it's like no matter, no ma I was talking to somebody the other day about this, but no matter what side of the fence, like yeah, Luke Bryant may sing a lot about trucks and dirt roads, but, and Speaker 1 00:34:05 What Margarita and like the one that's on now, but that's Speaker 2 00:34:07 Yeah's you know, when, when the whole truck thing became a thing, like that's how country folks grow up. Yeah. And he's, he's not lying about, Speaker 1 00:34:15 And one of those songs that cuts deep and brings emotion out is maybe not for me, but for like a lot of good old boys, maybe like yourselves that we rode in trucks. I'm telling Speaker 2 00:34:23 You that's, we Speaker 1 00:34:24 Rode in Speaker 2 00:34:24 Trucks, it still punches me in the gut. Yeah. Like driving in a pickup truck down a dirt road. That was our life growing up. Like that's what we did, you Speaker 1 00:34:32 Know, rode trucks, Speaker 3 00:34:33 Didn really live for that. Like, that was, that was a Friday, Saturday night thing. Like you rode dirt roads and that's like, you know, even for me, like, you know, that's Speaker 2 00:34:40 Nostalgia man. Speaker 3 00:34:41 Yeah. Dude. Like I was back home these last two weeks and like, you know, I didn't have my truck, but I had like a car on me. Right. And like, I even rode some of those dirt roads then just, you have to put on some of that music and it just, it can take you immediately to a place. Speaker 2 00:34:54 Yeah. I think, I think as long as it's, it's who you are and you know, obviously it was the, it became a popular topic to, to really, you know, sing about or whatever. And so, you know, it's, it's gotten a lot of flag. But you know, I think no matter what you're singing about, if it's real and it's honest, people will know that. And people just want to hear something that you're truthful about and what really comes from the gut, you know? And so I think what we were talking about, all those things they come from, you know, a place of hurt or whatever, you know, heartbreak and all that stuff. So, but Speaker 1 00:35:28 When, when did you write leaving Louisiana? Cause did that come out immediately? Cause obviously the title, I mean, you're from Louisiana, you're Yes. Leaving Louisiana. What, when did that come out of you? Where, where you got that out there? Speaker 2 00:35:40 That had to be, so I wrote it with Alex Smith, who's also a singer songwriter artist. Um, he's great. Um, that was the first song we ever wrote together. And he's from Alexandria, which is about halfway down the state, or we call it Alec if you're, uh, from Louisiana. Speaker 1 00:35:52 Yeah. You said, you said that's, that's where the line's at. Speaker 2 00:35:53 That's, that's basically the line. Um, and so like, he doesn't have, he doesn't have a country or a Cajun accent. He's kind of in that no man's lane, you know, or whatever. But, um, this had to be 2017 cuz I put the song out in 2018, I believe. But, um, it was the first time we kind of got to know each other. We got hooked up through a mutual band member and you know how it is, everyone shares a band in Nashville. I mean, that's, that's how it's, yeah. But, uh, so I, I go over to his house and he knew us from Louisiana and we were catching up and he's like, man, I got this title called Leaving Louisiana. And we had both been through pretty serious breakups before we moved to town. And I even, even though I don't think either one of us moved to Nashville because of the breakup, you know, we truly did wanna chase our dream. Speaker 2 00:36:36 There was nothing holding us there anymore. You know, we didn't have that serious relationship and it was, you know, it's tough to leave family, but they understand when you go and chase your dreams. So that song just kind of fell to airman and it was one of those rights that just, it just happened. We didn't have to work for it too much. Um, and that's really the song that changed my life. I mean, I, cuz I'd put out a record back in 2017 and, you know, I love that record, but it just, as far as numbers and exposure just really didn't do a whole lot. And so when I put out leaving Louisiana, which is still probably my most successful song streaming wise off Speaker 1 00:37:09 My chest is getting there. It is. So Off My chest is getting there. Speaker 2 00:37:12 Off my chest is very, it is more popular on Apple, you know, I don't know, I don't know how the whole game works, but like, you know, Spotify, apple, all that stuff. But it, it streams I think off my chest has like five or six times the numbers it has on Spotify, which is crazy. I mean, but you know, a lot of people are going to Apple Music and so I don't care where you listen to it as long as you listen to it. Right. <laugh>. Exactly. Um, but yeah, that was really the, that song is very personal to me, but also not only because it's, it's true, but it also is a song that really gave me, uh, jumpstart in my career. You know, that was, I think every artist kind of has that song that really grabs people's attention and kind of gets them become a true fan. Um, and that was a song that did it for me and it's still, it's still my favorite song to sing. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:37:58 Now, now you've put out the two, it's two eps that you've put out so far, right? Yeah. Two Speaker 2 00:38:02 Eps. Um, I released Leaving Louisiana and looking for me as technically singles. Um, but they're both on that, that EP Speaker 1 00:38:09 As well. Yeah. So do you think with the second one, like the fact that more time went by and you got to live a little bit, you got to live in Nashville, like the story of what that's telling is maybe just deeper than what the first one was. Speaker 2 00:38:20 What is it? I think so, man. And I think I've also grown, you know, back when I put out that record in 2000, Speaker 1 00:38:27 Was it 17 Speaker 2 00:38:27 Seven, early 2017. So basically all those songs I had written in 2016 or 15, like first couple years I was here and I was, I was very green as a, a songwriter and I love those songs, but you know, I've, I've really, I think I've really figured out who I am as an artist and really grown and narrowed it down to what I like to sing about, how I like to sing it the way I like to sound. You know? Um, it's kind of somewhere in between. It's, it's definitely not pop country, but it's definitely not traditional country. It's just kind of somewhere in that, that hybrid middle ground. And I think that's where my music falls and um, obviously everything I sing on is gonna sound super country the way I talk, you know? Yeah. Um, but it's, it's just, it's, it's my brand of music and, you know, I I, I'm very proud of it and I hope, I hope that people enjoy as much as I enjoyed making it, you know. Oh Speaker 1 00:39:11 Dude. I, I definitely enjoy it. I know a lot of people are, are enjoying it. So what's, what's the thing that, so you put this, you put off my chest out towards the end of 2019. Speaker 2 00:39:20 Yeah, it was September of last year. Speaker 1 00:39:21 Yeah. Yeah. So what's the, what's the plan for new music? Speaker 2 00:39:24 So I've got a new single, um, it should be back from mixing and mastering within the next week or two. Um, I'm just kind of waiting for that. Um, it's a song I wrote with Tyler Chambers and Bryce Malden. Oh, love those. Yeah, love those guys. They're great guys. Yeah. Um, it's called Good Old Boys Girl. And, uh, I'm super excited about it. Um, it's, it's definitely a summer jam. It's just a window. You roll your windows down, crank it up, you know, just feel, it just, to me, it reminds me of like, we were talking about riding those dirt roads, roll your windows down, you know, have, have some breeze bone in your arms, that kind of thing. And, um, maybe a pretty lady beside you. I don't know, whatever the case may be, but it's just a, it's just a feel good song about, you know, my type of girl I guess, uh, you could say. And, um, I wrote it with, like I said, Tyler and, and Bryce and Tyler brought the idea to the room and I'm, I'm really excited to get the song out there. I was, I was planning on hopefully getting it out a little earlier this summer, but you know how things work in Nashville, Speaker 1 00:40:18 Everything, yeah, well, the way things work in Nashville, but yeah. But also what's going on right now. Yeah. It's a complete just cluster fuck. It is. Like nobody knows what the hell's going Speaker 2 00:40:25 On, but at the same time, there's so much liberty, even with like muscadine, like putting out work tapes and stuff like that. Like we just had, as artists, we also now have a little more liberty to do things that typically you wouldn't do. Yeah. Like, they probably would've, I mean, not to say they would never put out work tapes, but like, they would probably put out finished products because they've been in the studio or whatever the case may be. But yet this crazy time allows 'em to do something a little different and, you know, spend more time on organic stuff. So it's, it's cool, man. But yeah, I'm ready. I mean, I'm ready to get more music. If I could put out a new song every month I would, but yeah, it just, it don't quite work like that. You know how Speaker 1 00:41:02 It is. Yeah. The country industry ain't what SoundCloud rappers. Yeah. You know? Speaker 2 00:41:06 Yeah. I mean, you think about it start to finish, it's very rare that you write a song and it's out before two years. I mean, like most songs you hear are, you know, a couple years old. I mean, all of, I mean, a lot of Luke's songs he wrote when he first moved to town Yeah. And now are just now become a number one. So, um, it's, that's just the way it works. Speaker 1 00:41:23 Yeah. No man. For sure. Absolutely. Um, so another thing I wanted to ask you, um, real quick, your favorite food Places to eat in Nashville, because you've been in town for a while, so you and Tyler could probably talk more about this. Like, you've, you've been around the block, so you've seen Nashville kind of boom. Yeah, I've been here for two years, so I'm still relatively new. But what are some, what are some of your spots that you like to hang? Speaker 2 00:41:44 Well, I'm gonna disappoint you at first because the, the place I love going to most was a place called 10 16 t e n n 16. And it was at Five Points. Uh, it was right in between like, what is that Three Crow? What was that bar? Speaker 3 00:41:58 I think Speaker 2 00:41:58 Three Crow and Five Points Pizza. It was right there on that little strip. And it was a Louisiana Influence restaurant. I, I would describe it as a glorified sports bar. Like you walk in and they still have like the center bar with the TVs. Yeah. But it's, you know, it, it feels a little nicer. Like you can still, we can still be casual like this going in there, but it's not just your, your your typical like sports bar or whatever and, you know, you could get some gumbo. And I tell you what, they had this apple bourbon glaze pork chop Ooh. To die for, I'm telling you. And for some reason, I don't know if something shady went on, but they just kind of closed outta nowhere. And so I don't know what happened, but, um, I'm a little disappointed about that. But that was so you can't go eat there. But that was, that was one of my favorite restaurants. Um, I don't know, man. I love Ed Lee's barbecue. Speaker 1 00:42:41 You're an Leys guy. Okay, I'm, Speaker 2 00:42:43 See Speaker 1 00:42:43 He's not, he's a Martin, he's a Martin's guy. Speaker 2 00:42:45 I've only had Martin's once, so I think I need to keep revisiting it. So I used to live, I've, I live in East Nashville now, and so I'm close to Ed Lee's Air. And then I also lived in Berry Hill, which I was right around the corner from the 12th south location. So I think that had a lot to do with, and I love banana pudding. That's like one they Speaker 1 00:43:00 Do, they do have a really good banana pudding. Speaker 2 00:43:02 Ed's has some of the best banana pudding I've had in Nashville. Speaker 3 00:43:05 See, I can't have banana pudding. Oh, okay. I've got like something with potassium, like they can send me into Speaker 2 00:43:10 AFib. Yeah, don't eat that <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:43:11 Yeah. Not, not trying to eat bananas right now, but, um, my thing is like, the consistency of Ed Lees isn't there for me. Speaker 2 00:43:18 Yeah. Well I need, I definitely need to you Martin's another shot. But I will say they're a banana pudding if you're a banana pudding fan. I know. That's definitely a southern thing which I come to learn. Like I thought everybody liked banana pudding, but apparently that's just like a southern dish. Um, maybe it's acquired taste. I don't know. But they have. It's good. Speaker 1 00:43:34 Um, are you a hot chicken guy? Speaker 2 00:43:36 I am. Speaker 1 00:43:37 How, how hot do you get? Cuz you're, you're from Louisiana, like y'all do the real hot, y'all are where the hot sauce comes from. Speaker 2 00:43:44 I do, but I also like to enjoy my food. So I like spicy obviously, but I don't want it so spicy where I can't eat like my nose is running. You Speaker 1 00:43:51 Don't want it to be like a challenge? Speaker 2 00:43:52 No. Like, yeah, so I mean, I've eaten some really, really hot crawfish in my life with all that cayenne pepper and all that stuff and yeah, it was cool to say I did it, but at the same time there's, there's that delicate balance between flavor and just like, oh my God, like this is so, this is so spicy. I cannot enjoy it because my nose is running. I can't breathe anymore. Like Speaker 3 00:44:12 That's like whenever it comes allergy season around here, I'll make me up the hottest pot I can of jambalaya. Oh yeah. And I'll just sit here and like, you know, I'll be crying, my nose will be running and I'll be like, you know, doing all that kind of stuff, just trying to like get through it just to like clear my head so I don't have headaches all the time. Speaker 2 00:44:29 Yeah. I'm telling you man. But, uh, I do, I mean I've tried most of the, the hot chicken restaurants around here and it's good. But honestly, what's Speaker 3 00:44:35 Your favorite one? Speaker 2 00:44:37 So I believe it or not, I still haven't been to Prince's. I need to go there. I Speaker 1 00:44:41 Haven't either, Speaker 2 00:44:41 But, but I heard that it's the original. That's the one you need to go to. I haven't been there. I mean I liked Hatty be's, it was great, but I'm not gonna wait too hours to eat that hot chicken. No. Um, there's actually a place in East Nashville called Pepper Fire. Um, pepper Fire's good and it's really good. Um, it's kind of like this, you wouldn't even know it's there. I mean it's like in this little bitty strip thing and, but uh, it was right around the corner from my house. Like I'll try it and they have those big like crinkle fries and it's, it's, it's really good. Um, but yeah, I'm, I'm more of like somewhere in the middle. I don't want it mild, but I don't want it super hot. See, Speaker 1 00:45:10 My key to it now is I get it as a sandwich. I'll go to Yeah, I like Party Foul a lot. Speaker 2 00:45:15 Oh, that, that I forgot about that. They have really good hot chicken. Speaker 1 00:45:18 He turned on the, he turned me on the party foul and cuz he's the guy that's taking me to every freaking, he knows every fucking Mexican restaurant within a thir within like a five mile radius of Speaker 3 00:45:26 If you want a Mexican restaurant. I can tell you one that you can be Speaker 2 00:45:28 In minutes. I'm gonna cilantro tonight on, uh, eight South. Or Guess I guess Franklin, I Speaker 3 00:45:33 Guess Cilantros, honestly. Like, it's one of the ones I'll eat at, but it's probably like my least favorite to eat at. Speaker 2 00:45:37 Yeah. But I, I prefer that style of Mexican food versus like a Chewys. Like I don't like it. Yeah. I hate you. I don't like Texas. Speaker 1 00:45:44 I haven't been to Chewys because I haven't heard one, I haven't heard people that like it. Everybody tells me don't go to Chewy. Speaker 2 00:45:49 It's just, it's a different, it's not, it's not like authentic, authentic Mexican food, which is, which cilantro is not either. Probably. I mean when it comes to like real authentic Mexican food, but it's more of a Tex-Mex style of Yeah. Of Mexican food. And I Speaker 3 00:46:02 Like also down though, like south where me and Matt go. In fact where we started this podcast at Speaker 1 00:46:07 Los Speaker 2 00:46:07 Palm Speaker 1 00:46:08 Thomas is the, Speaker 3 00:46:09 And the eighth south one is the only one I'll go to. Oh, Speaker 2 00:46:11 The box where the Kroger, wherever it is. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:46:13 Yeah, yeah. Liquor store right there. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:46:15 Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't even know it's there. Nope. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:46:17 It, and it's, it's so good. Dude. That's like my go-to usually. Oh yeah, that one there's out one out on, uh, by the airport. Mm-hmm <affirmative> called Speaker 2 00:46:24 Lycos. Speaker 3 00:46:24 Oh yeah. And it's, that was like the OG spot that I went to. And then there's one out in West Nashville. I used to live out there and it's called Tequila's. Speaker 2 00:46:32 Yeah. Have you been to Mondale's? Uh, oh my gosh. You haven't. I still haven't been. So do you, have you done like the meet and three thing yet? Yes. Okay. So like Arnold's and so that stuff, so Mon Nell's is over there off of, I believe it's, there's Speaker 3 00:46:45 A few Speaker 2 00:46:46 Of them now. Thompson. Yeah. Um, over there where like all the recording studios are Guitar Center. It's on that, it's on that strip. So that's the cafe that's Yeah. So that's like, that's like you go like a plate lunch style. Right. Speaker 1 00:46:57 Actually, actually you're back in school. Speaker 2 00:46:58 Right. I've actually done the one where it's like Thanksgiving dinner, you sit down at a big table and you pass around, which Speaker 3 00:47:03 Is cool. And it's like, that's the one that's out by the airport. And like you literally, it's a big manor and you go down and there's eight seats at the table. And if there's the three of us, they're gonna sit five random Speaker 2 00:47:12 People and you gotta put your phone up. If you have your phone out, they'll tell you to leave. They really will. Yeah. Really. Speaker 1 00:47:16 So it's old school. Speaker 2 00:47:17 It's like, well they want you to have, it's a family style. They want you to have the real experience of like sitting down. Yeah. Even with the strangers and just like, just being present and like, Speaker 3 00:47:25 Like you gotta have table manners. Like you gotta, you Speaker 2 00:47:27 Pass, you literally, they'll bring out out I'd, I'd they'll bring out like, uh, I'd, Speaker 1 00:47:30 I'd be so screwed. Oh, appetizer in New York. I, I cuss like a sailor. Speaker 2 00:47:35 Well it's not like, yeah, like you can cuss, but you know, like they'll bring out appetizers and you grab a roll and you pass it to your left and you, you know, like you grab a scoop like, it's like you're at Thanksgiving dinner. It's a really cool experience you need to do, but you need to be prepared for a nap afterwards. Yeah. It'll put, it'll put Speaker 1 00:47:49 You down at what's what, what do they do? They do like a Turkey, like Thanksgiving dinner or what Speaker 2 00:47:54 Do they It's just like, it's like southern cooking. So like all the Louisiana foods are comfort foods and Right. Me personally, I don't, I don't really eat Louisiana food till it starts cooling down cuz they're just so heavy. Like everything's like soup and rice and like all this stuff. And in the wintertime it's perfect. But you eat a big old pot of gumbo during the summertime, you gonna need to like sit down, take a break for a while, take a nap. It's Speaker 3 00:48:15 Like, honestly, it's like kind of drinking like bourbon in the summer. Right. It's like you gotta kind of take a break during the summer from bourbon and stuff like that. Right. Cause like you're literally like I was out on the river last weekend or two weekends ago now and like I had some bourbon with me and I drank some and literally dude, like I was sitting there and I was just sweating like it was already, it's 4:00 AM and it was freaking 90 Speaker 1 00:48:35 Degrees oh's. There's a reason people drink bush light in the summer. Speaker 2 00:48:37 There's a lot of ice cold beer in the summertime that just, there's Speaker 3 00:48:40 A reason also that people drink a lot of lagers in the winter and they drink a lot of like pilsner and lighter Speaker 2 00:48:45 Wheat. That's how Louisiana food is. Really? Yeah. I mean, yeah, you got crawfish in the spring and you got gumbo and jambalaya and I've actually, so you need to try pasta too. So it's the same thing as jambo. That Speaker 1 00:48:55 Sounds Speaker 2 00:48:56 Delicious. It's the same thing as jambalaya, but instead of rice that you use pasta and it's so good. It's like Speaker 1 00:49:00 A, you had me at Pasta New York. Cause I, I'm penne vodka and all the pasta shit. That's Speaker 2 00:49:05 What I, so I think that would be more up your your alley. Alley. Okay. It's pasta. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:49:08 He like jumbalaya whenever I cook it. Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:49:10 I enjoy jumbalaya. Speaker 2 00:49:11 Same. It's the same thing except they use pasta instead of, uh, rice as the base of it. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:49:16 Sounds Speaker 1 00:49:17 Good. Speaker 3 00:49:17 Yeah, no, I, I thoroughly enjoy Cajun food. Have you ever had like some of the other Cajun spots here in town? Speaker 2 00:49:24 Uh, like where Speaker 3 00:49:25 Like bros Speaker 2 00:49:26 I don't think I've ever, I I'm Speaker 3 00:49:28 Bro is over on uh, Charlotte. Speaker 2 00:49:30 We need to go. I'm always super hesitant about going to Louisiana Foods cause I'm like man, Speaker 1 00:49:35 Welcome bros. Welcome Speaker 2 00:49:36 You, you know, you're Speaker 1 00:49:38 By. But everybody tells me, Ooh, I found the best pizza spot. I'm like, I'm like, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Speaker 2 00:49:44 I'll tell you what I do love. What do you think about Five Points? I like it. So to me that is probably the closest or one of the closest you can get to like a true New York style Speaker 3 00:49:52 That. And uh, the one that I'll take them to a lot is, uh, shoot, it's over there. Uh, God, what is it called? Two Boots? Speaker 2 00:50:00 Yeah. Where they had the big floppy Speaker 1 00:50:02 Slice. All the, the hipster, all the East Nashville hip guys are in there with the glasses. They're like the Hansen Brothers from Speaker 3 00:50:06 Yeah, it's over there in Midtown. Otherwise Speaker 2 00:50:07 It's like Little Caesars, you know, and it's like, come on man. Speaker 1 00:50:10 Like yeah. See I'm used to going to a place and like you walk in, even like the delis are like this where you walk in, it's people at the counter, but there's like 30 different kinds of pizza just sitting there and you point at it and say, I'll take a slice of that. I'll take a slice of that. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:50:22 Here's what, two boots? Speaker 1 00:50:23 Yeah, two, two slices for six bucks. You get a Coke with it and you're good to go. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:50:27 And two boots actually started in New York City. Like it's Speaker 2 00:50:29 A New York chain that was, I'm pretty sure that was probably one of the first piece of joints I ever went to. I mean we used to go out in Midtown all the time and uh, back when, you know, bars were a thing and, uh, <laugh>. Yeah. You know, it's 2:00 AM and you're little, you're a little sideways. You just walk across the street and grab a couple slices. Speaker 1 00:50:42 You call it soda pop. Do you say a coke? Speaker 2 00:50:45 Probably Coke more than anything. Um, Speaker 1 00:50:47 Yeah, you just say now. I, I Speaker 2 00:50:48 Do. Speaker 1 00:50:48 Will you like, will you call, if if you, if you say, can I get a Coke and they give you a Sprite, will you say something? Speaker 2 00:50:54 I've definitely broken the habit of that. Um, that's when I live back home and you say, yeah, I want a coke. And they're like, what kind? You're like, uh, I'll take a Dr. Pepper. You know, which is, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And I've definitely broken that habit, but I've never called it like soda or pop, you know, um, maybe soda maybe. But I've pop, nah, I don't think that's, I don't think that's the thing. Speaker 1 00:51:14 Cause I'm learning all these southern things. I'm, I'm getting like a crash course. Well, you Speaker 2 00:51:17 Know, we, we talk so slow by nature and so I think we just naturally take shortcuts on everything. Um, you know, cuz we, we don't, we don't say a lot of words at once, so it's like we gotta take our shortcut to get our point across. Right. Was Speaker 1 00:51:29 Moving to Nashville. Um, an interesting thing for you, because Nashville's such a bigger city Speaker 2 00:51:35 Man actually the Speaker 1 00:51:35 Monroe Monroe's kind Monroe's a city. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:51:38 So Speaker 1 00:51:38 The, it's a smaller city, but it's a Speaker 2 00:51:39 City, the mon the Monroe area. So I grew up in West Monroe, which is across the river. It's actually a, a different city. Um, which I had to like tell people that cuz like I live in East Nashville, but East Nashville is not a city. Like, it's just, it's just a direction. Whereas right. West Monroe is actually a city. Um, and so West Monroe is more of like the country part of that area. And then Monroe is more of a city feel, but like the whole Monroe area, I mean it probably has what, a hundred thousand people in that whole area and suburbs and everything. So it's not, it's not super small. I mean I grew up on the outskirts kind of in the country area, but you know, it's, it really wasn't the biggest transition as I thought it would be, you know? Cause I'd never lived in the big city. Speaker 2 00:52:15 I really never got out northeast Louisiana. Um, I went to college locally, but I, the way I look at Nashville, it's, it's a big si it's a small town to, uh, disguise is a big city, I guess is the right way to say it. Um, because especially in the music circle, everything's, you know, this big. I mean it's, it's, it's small. Um, and everyone's still, for the most part, I I mean we, you always meet jerks in your life. But like, everyone's still super friendly and still feels like that, you know, southern hospitality or whatever, Speaker 1 00:52:46 People still wave down here back home. Yeah. It was weird when I was, when I was up in Jersey, I was like riding, I was like just hanging out on the, in the, in the driveway and my cousin and people were driving by and I was waving at him and I thought one of them was somebody was gonna get outta the car and fight me. Cuz they were like, why the fuck are you waving at me? Like, people just don't have that niceness. Like they still have that niceness here. It's, you don't lose the southern in Nashville. Speaker 2 00:53:05 It's just weird because like, especially when I was living with some, with some friends from St. Louis, we go to the grocery store and uh, like I, I go through and I would like strike up conversations with strangers or whatever. How you doing? Hey there like, and it's just like that to me that was pretty normal. And they're like, what are you doing? Why are you talking to the, like, why are you talking to like strange people like you, you don't know them? I'm like, I don't know. I could, I mean, I could be friends with 'em or something, you know? And, and my dad did that growing. I used to hate it growing up. But I, the more I, the older I get, the more and more I turn into my dad. I used to hate it cuz he would, we could never go anywhere without, like, if you wanted to go to the grocery store, get a loaf of bread, you're gonna be there an hour and a half. Cuz he's gonna find somebody he knows he's gonna talk and like, he's gonna get mad at me cause I'm gonna be pulling on a shirt or whatever and you know, he's trying to, you know, but the older I get I'm like, man, like I'm turning into that. I enjoy a good conversation now. Like just catching up with people and you know, as a kid you don't really see that kind of stuff. But I mean, I was used to doing that, but Speaker 3 00:54:01 I remember, uh, I don't know, it was probably, I was probably three, three and a half years into being into town. I was still in college and I remember like, there was a lot of like local guys and stuff like that, but I was part of like someone like the Broadway and like some of those people still Right that scene. Like not supposed to be, but I was. And uh, they were like, it finally happened guys. I was walking down the sidewalk and I acknowledged somebody, I said, hey. And they just kept looking down and they're like, got a New York attitude. What the hell's happening to this town? <laugh>? Speaker 2 00:54:35 Well, the way I look at it, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like life in the south for majority, it just life moves pretty slow. Like no one's really in a hurry for anything. Whereas like if you go to somewhere like New York City, people just have such a goal driven attitude. Like on the next do this, this, this. They're not concerned. It's not that they're being rude, it's just like they're go, go, go, go, go. And they got a one, they, they're on this one track and then it's like they're just not used to like stopping. And especially in like the city and just like talking to strangers. It's just not like a thing. And I, I don't think it has anything to do with them. I mean obviously there are jerks, but like, I just don't think it has anything to do with, they don't want to. It's just like, they just, it's just like a go go go mentality. Speaker 1 00:55:17 We have, we have a sense of urgency, right. We have a and we don't, we're, we're on a No, Speaker 2 00:55:20 That's, that's a better way. Sense of urgency. That's what I was trying to Speaker 1 00:55:23 Get to the, the Nashville goodbye. Like if you're going out with your friends. And it drove me nuts when I first got down here. Then I just stopped giving a fuck about it. So I Irish goodbye. Well, not well. No, it's, well that's how I would do it. Right. But like down here it's like, Speaker 2 00:55:35 Make your rounds Speaker 1 00:55:36 And to get, to get from live oak to tin roof takes like 15, 20 minutes cuz you bump into somebody on the little walk. Yeah. And then somebody else walks up and Yeah, then there's a dog and then there's this, and then there's that. Speaker 2 00:55:47 Yeah, we, we just, I don't know man, it's just, that's Speaker 3 00:55:49 What it was funny like being back home and all and like I was working with some buddies on a project and everything and I'd be like, Hey man, I'm gonna be there at four. Okay, yeah. I'll be there 4 35 rolls around. Hey man, where are you at? Oh dude, I just, I took a shower, like went and got some food. That's my bracelet. What's McCall calling me? Had to talk to him for a minute. So like, yeah, I'm, I'm on my way now. How long are you gonna be? Ah, probably another 10, 20 minutes, 30 minutes later they hour roll up and you're like, dude, it just like an hour late. Like we could have got a lot done and like it's one of those things like living here and like Right. I've always been like that. Like I've always been somebody that's like, if I'm gonna be 15 minutes early, like I start getting anxious because like, I wanna be like, Speaker 2 00:56:30 No, I am an early bird. I, yeah, I'm, I've, my high school coach always told me, if you're five minutes early, you're 10 minutes late. What sport did you play? I played baseball and football. Um, I'm, I mean, looking at me, I'm, I'm not really a football type, but I, I mean I did play in high school, but baseball was more of my thing in high school. What position? Centerfield. Oh, so you were running I used to be fast man. I don't know what happened. Which actually, I'll tell you what, over quarantine I started running again. So we, so the high school I went to Western Row High School was the biggest high school in the state. And sports wise, they were probably the best high school in the state. And it was like a, a dang military camp. I mean like summertime, I'm 7:00 AM three, four days a week we're we're working. I mean, like, it was, it was pretty hardcore. So, and it, and it, and it's hot as shit. It's hot <laugh> and, and that's Speaker 3 00:57:14 Not only is it hot, it's muggy. It's Speaker 2 00:57:16 Muggy. And that was probably another reason besides they wanted to keep us outta trouble for staying out all night. And there's a reason why they got us up so early. But it was also so hot. But you know, I just, once I got done with high school, I'd worked out so hard for so long and I've been doing it since middle school and I was like, man, I just kind of swore it off and you know, I, you know, I'd exercise here and the air, but I just, I I was never really interested and I, I actually gotten kind of back into it and it's been kind of my way of, of escaping a little bit just, just kind of getting out and freeing my mind and cuz you know, I have a tendency to just like think about things like all the time. It's like something about getting out and just even going for a walk or something. It's, it's really helped. And you know, I've, I I, my writing's starting to improve a little more since quarantine. Um, just because I just, I just taken some time for myself, you know, and really hit that reset button and Speaker 3 00:58:04 You know. Yeah. And like something like I was back in the gym whenever I was out in Texas and some stuff and like something I realized is like being a football, like I played four sports in high school and being like that type of athlete, right? Like you're always working out always and you're always doing like set things to like gain muscle, gain weight. Right? Like, you know, like I was a little bit smaller dude in high school, but I was trying to fill a lineman's shoes so I was on a weight gain program Yeah. For years. And like it finally caught up and like I had to have a shoulder surgery and probably gained a little bit too much weight at the time cuz I was still eating like I was working out. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:58:39 You have to adjust, you know? Speaker 3 00:58:40 Yeah. And I didn't, but then like, trying to work out all these years afterwards, that's my mindset is go hard in the gym, do your job, like do work, don't cheat a set, like, you know, all that kind of stuff. But like, going back to the gym this time, I was like, instead of trying to do what I was doing in high school, I'm gonna do like stupid low weight. Like I was doing a lot of machines, right. So I was gonna, I'm gonna do like 40 pounds and I'm just gonna do, you know, three to five sets of 20 and if I start feeling a little weak, I'm gonna stop and I'm gonna go do something Speaker 2 00:59:13 Else. Yeah. I'm telling you dude, the older you get, it's just like your body just don't respond like it used to. And even though your mind is still there, it's like I can still, what are you talking about? I could still do everything I did. I probably better than I did when I was 18, but in reality it's like there ain't no way, like I would be able to walk for a week if I tried to squat 400 pounds. Right? Speaker 1 00:59:29 Yeah, no, I feel, I feel that. Speaker 3 00:59:31 But I was doing all that stuff and like I'd always feel like sore afterwards like, but it was a good sore, right? Like I could still operate. Right. I wasn't pulling muscles like I was, I was doing it healthily and I was also like actually stretching and stuff like that before. Cuz you know, like in high school it's like seventh period you got an hour to work out. Like the coach is like, all right, like get in there. Right. And you're going from nothing to bench pressing, you know, 1 45 and Yeah. You Speaker 2 00:59:56 Know, you definitely gotta take precautions now. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:59:58 For sure. Speaker 2 00:59:59 It's, uh, it's, it's been nice to just kind of get that habit back a little bit. You know, I'm, I'll never be as hardcore, you know, I'm, I mean I'm a I'm a skinny dude. Like I would have if I ever wanted to like really, you know, look like Riley Green or somebody like that. Like yeah, it would become a job for me. Like I, I would have to like, you know, I just, that's not my body type and so I just, honestly, I just do it. It just helps free my mind and you know, physically if you, the more physically active you are, I think everything else kind of falls in place. So it's been nice to kinda hit the reset button and get back into that a little bit. That's Speaker 1 01:00:31 Good. I think a lot of people have been doing that, man. Yeah. And 2020, we just gotta try to make lemonade outta these shitty corona lemons that we've been dealt. I know, right. But it sounds like you're making the most of it and, uh, I'm looking forward to this, this new new song that you're gonna be getting Speaker 2 01:00:44 Back too. Yeah, me too man. I'm, I'm excited about it. So hopefully over the next month, uh, I don't know, I don't know when you guys are putting this podcast out, but Speaker 1 01:00:52 This will be, this will be out, um, two weeks from us recording it. So this will be out on Monday. The what, Boudreau August 3rd? Speaker 3 01:01:00 Yeah, August 3rd. August 3rd. Speaker 1 01:01:01 Okay. Speaker 2 01:01:01 So ho I I'm, my game plan is to for sure get it out in August. Okay. So, um, and that's all subject to change, but hopefully by the time you're listening to this, you'll be able to just click a button and go, go check it out. So Speaker 1 01:01:13 Yeah. Well we always wrap this up with our guest playing a song. Yeah, we have, we have a guitar over here. Are you cool playing a song? Of course. Us. Yeah, Speaker 2 01:01:20 Let's do it. Do Speaker 1 01:01:21 You want, you wanna play this new one? Speaker 2 01:01:22 I can do that. Or I can go back to the leaving Louisiana, whatever, whatever, Speaker 1 01:01:25 Whatever, whatever you wanna play. What are you more comfortable singing right now? Speaker 2 01:01:28 I don't know. What is that guitar tuned in? Is that just standard tuning? Speaker 3 01:01:31 Uh, I think it was Drop D. Speaker 2 01:01:32 Okay, well here, let, let's just, let's just, you know, lemme just pick it up and uh, see what happens. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:01:38 So while, while Steven's picking up the guitar. Um, guys, thank you again for listening to the In the Round. Thank you. Thank you again for listening to the In the Round podcast. Um, always a blast. Uh, Boudreaux another fucking good one. Speaker 3 01:01:50 Yeah, dude, Steven, where do they, where can they find you? Um, Speaker 2 01:01:53 So one stop shop is Stephen Paul country.com. That's my website. So it'll have all my socials, but like Instagram is Stephen Paul Music, which is where I'm probably most active. So if you need to reach me, uh, be message or something like that, that's probably the best place to do it. I'm not very good at Twitter. It's Stephen Paul and Twitter, but um, and then Facebook is Stephen Paul Country. Um, but I'm the most active on Instagram, so if you wanna see the most pictures or videos or whatever be the best way to get in touch with me. Speaker 1 01:02:20 And any Stephen Paul fans out there, me and Boudreau can attest to it cause we're rocking them now. Kids got some great merch. Speaker 2 01:02:26 Oh yeah, Speaker 1 01:02:27 Kids got some great merch. Nice. Speaker 2 01:02:28 They got the new swag. Speaker 1 01:02:29 K Coozies and Hats Speaker 2 01:02:31 L has the guitar head stock in it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Ill tell you what, I had that so little side story. I don't know if we're running outta time. No, Speaker 1 01:02:38 You're fine, Speaker 2 01:02:39 You're good. My, uh, my old roommates, they used to own the ultimate professional Frisbee team here in Nashville. No shit. They were called the Nashville Night Watch. Um, but I say that to say the guy that designed logo, I don't even know where he is based out of this had to be back in 2015 or 16. Um, uh, they, he did their Logan. I was like, man, that's awesome. And so I reached out, I was like, Hey man, I'm, I'm a new country singer and or whatever and he sent that to me. Uh, and that's, you know, we've used it ever since. So it's Oh yeah, it's kinda stuck. Speaker 1 01:03:07 Hell yeah. So make sure you guys jump on there. Support our man, uh, Steven Paul. Um, absolutely crushing it man. Um, we love the EP and we can't wait for new music to be coming out and all that. I'm sure you guys follow along with us at Matt Bar and at just a wandering Tyler. Now without further ado, here's our buddy Steven Paul with good old boys girl. Y'all have been listening to the In The Round podcast. Speaker 2 01:03:29 Hey y'all, Steven Paul. Speaker 4 01:03:31 This one's Speaker 2 01:03:31 Called Good Old Boys Girl Speaker 4 01:03:42 Without Never Mama Her own recipe. Sweet Iced Tea. If she's coffee in the morning, whiskey after seven, like she's standing up in heaven. Girl I that I can guarantee her ain't letting I bet Day. Telling her loves her ain't now pulling her clothes. Speaker 0 01:05:06 She Speaker 4 01:05:16 Other ain't letting something like that. Something so good guitar right now I be riding off into that sun see and he's loving on her long as that road and she's got her hand out window of a Chevy with a Ain't Yes.