Elvie Shane

Speaker 1 00:00:14 What is going on everyone? Welcome back to the End the Round podcast. You got Matt and Boudreaux Tyler? How up doing? Speaker 2 00:00:19 I'm doing well. How you doing? Speaker 1 00:00:20 We got a, we got a friend here for the intro today. Gary, what's going on, Bob? Speaker 3 00:00:23 What's up dude, I'm just here so I don't get fine. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:00:26 <laugh>. Well, we wanna, we got a cool guest on today. A guest that we had never met before. Tyler, um, a guy that talked a lot. He was, um, he, we went out and saw his Mustang. We heard it when he pulled away about five minutes later. Like he's, he's a wild dude. His name's El Elvis Shay. He's got a song called My Boy that's out on radio right now. But also, real quick, before we get to this interview, we gotta tell y'all about our friends at Trailside CBD Emporium, our boy and ju his team. They can meet all your CBD hemp and Delta ath HC needs from oils and gummies to those tasty cartridges and that great flour they have you covered. The carts are in stock, the buds there, all that boudreau. You've been enjoying those CBD products, haven't you? Yeah, Speaker 2 00:01:05 I actually did the, uh, barbecue sauce with the CBD oil Speaker 1 00:01:08 The other day. Hey, there we go. Really good. Hell yeah. Yeah. We're getting ready to set up that smoke out. We got Joie and a few other guys on there. We're gonna be doing a little smoke out with the, uh, with the active oil, making some edible barbecue, which we're looking forward to. So we'll have that content coming for y'all soon. But right now we're gonna get to this interview. Y'all enjoy this one. It's our boy LV Shane on this week's episode of the In The Round Podcast. All right, guys, joining us now here on the In the Round podcast. We got our man Elvie. Shane Elvie. How the hell you doing, Speaker 4 00:01:37 Dude? I'm, uh, I'm doing good so far today. The day's still a little young. We'll see how it goes, right? Speaker 1 00:01:42 It's, it, it is Young Nashville time. Yeah. Like, isn't it crazy? Like, cuz everywhere else it's like nine in the morning's, nine in the morning, but in Nashville it's like noon time feels like nine in the morning, Speaker 4 00:01:52 Man. I'm so used to like, where I come from. Uh, and the jobs I've worked all my life having to be up, you know, most of the time, like six, 6:00 AM is is the time you gotta get up. You gotta be at work by seven or eight. And uh, I moved to Nashville and I start working with all these songwriters that, that don't start working till 11 o'clock, you know, so <laugh>, I gotta find stuff to do in the mornings cuz I still like to get up early. I don't really like to, I guess it's just part of my genome at this point. It's Speaker 1 00:02:18 Like a curse. Like it's just your body's used to waking up early and even if you don't got shit to wake up for, it's like you, you're still, you're just Speaker 4 00:02:25 Up. Yeah, man. Now there are days, like today when, uh, my morning got canceled and I was like, oh hell, I believe I can lay here for a couple more <laugh>. There Speaker 1 00:02:34 You go. Speaker 5 00:02:35 Kinda the same thing happened to me. I'll eat in bed till noon. Speaker 4 00:02:37 <laugh>. Yeah, man, I ain't gonna lie. I mean, I just, I I'm usually up with my wife somewhere around 7, 6 30 to seven 30 in the mornings. And, uh, man, she's a boss. She's like up and ready to go and it takes me a little bit every now and then, but yeah. Speaker 5 00:02:52 Did you get some coffee in ya? Speaker 1 00:02:53 Yeah. You big coffee guy? Yeah. Oh Speaker 4 00:02:55 Dude, I gotta have the coffee. I, uh, I used to smoke cigarettes and uh, that was like, the only thing I miss about smoking cigarettes is having my coffee in the cigarette. Oh Speaker 1 00:03:04 Bro. Now I'm still on that kick. I'm still on that Mar light kick coming from New York where they're like $12 a pack to like Middle Tennessee where they're like six bucks a pack. Like, I, I gotta get off of those. But there's something about the, the cup of coffee and the, and the Morning City. Yeah, Speaker 4 00:03:19 Man, there sure is. There's something to be said for that for sure. But I, I haven't had that in a long time now. Speaker 1 00:03:24 Well, good for you, man. That's awesome. Now you've been in Nashville, you were telling us since 2015. So growing up you were in, you're a Kentucky boy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what kind of brought you here to Music City? Speaker 4 00:03:34 Well, uh, growing up, you know, the thought of moving to Nashville to be a songwriter or whatever, growing up where I grew up is kind of one of those Yeah, right. Things. And, uh, so I had a pretty wayward path between leaving my hometown the day after I graduated and getting to here. But I, I hung up my guitar for like three years. I met, I met the woman of my dreams and, uh, moved to Eastern Kentucky with her, and we were doing the family thing and I was just, you know, working small town jobs and making ends meet. And she had a group of friends that had a band called Borrow Blue, and they were all some dudes from over in Somerset, uh, Monticello area, area of Kentucky. And, uh, I remember the first time I met him, I was, I was little, uh, I was a little twisted and, uh, I went up and asked him to sing a song and, uh, I I was just, I was flat out belligerent probably. Speaker 4 00:04:30 But, uh, I went up and asked him to sing a song and they were like, we're not singing that song, dude. So I was like, screw these guys. I don't like these dudes. And she convinced me to go to another one of their shows, uh, later on a couple months later and, and the lead singer and my buddy Matt, he walked out there and I guess he caught wind that I was, I wasn't really mad at him anymore, but it just had pissed me off at the moment. And he's like, dude, I'm sorry if I offended you. I was like, damn dude, I'm cool. I only stay mad for about 30 seconds at a time, you know, <laugh> <laugh>. So, uh, so he, uh, I went in there and we went to a party at, at, at the drummer's house that night, my another buddy Brandon Davidson. Speaker 4 00:05:05 And, uh, I'd grabbed a guitar, they'd been talking about Chris Stapleton and I grabbed a guitar and, and started playing the guitar and sing Barely Live, uh, old Johnson Brothers tune. And they were like, dude, what the hell are you doing? You gotta be playing our shows with us. So I started playing shows with the those guys and one of 'em is dad had a condo down here and he was coming back and forth, uh, you know, just writing and meeting people at Losers like we do and yeah, <laugh>. And, uh, he convinced me to come down here in August of 2015. Long, the long and short of it. And, uh, I've been here ever since, man. Hell Speaker 1 00:05:38 Yeah. And 20 twenty's been a crazy year. Like in terms of obviously all the, all the shit going on and all that and Covid and this and that and the other thing. But, uh, you've, you've got a song out right now that's doing, doing pretty freaking well, man, Speaker 4 00:05:51 Dude, 20 twenty's been a good year. That's what Speaker 1 00:05:53 I'm saying. It's, it's crazy. Like even for, for me and Tyler, we've, we've joked about it or talked about it like that. There, there are some like silver linings and like, just cause there's all this other shit going on doesn't mean that you can't make the most of a situation. And like you've, you've had a good a solid year career-wise, music-wise. Speaker 4 00:06:12 Yeah, I've had a solid year, man, but I've also, I've, I've had a lot of people come on board. Like, when, when we started this year, my, my team was, was pretty small. I had, uh, you know, I had my a and r dude over at the label. I was working hand in hand with him a lot. Uh, my booking agent, my publisher, and, uh, my other publisher, I, I like to call her my angel on the row. Uh, Lisa Johnson's, this woman's been with me since, pretty much since I came to town, man. That's how Speaker 5 00:06:37 Took care of me. We actually gotta meet you was, uh, was through Speaker 4 00:06:40 Lisa. Yeah. You guys were on the golf course, right? Speaker 5 00:06:42 Yeah, I was working, uh, I think it was not this past Saturday. It was Saturday before, and we were sitting there and I was doing the starter job, so making sure everybody gets on the course and plays in ice with everybody and stuff. And she walked up and she goes, does anybody ever tell you you look like Luke Combs <laugh>? And I said, about at, Speaker 1 00:06:59 At about, at about six, seven inches of height. And it's tiring. Yeah, Speaker 5 00:07:02 Man. Yeah. I said about every day of my life, Luke Speaker 4 00:07:04 Combs wishes, right? Yeah, yeah. Speaker 5 00:07:06 And anyways, but yeah, we started, uh, sparked the conversation and then she, you know, told me about you and all and what she did with you and stuff. And then I saw that my good buddy will actually plays drums for you a little bit here and Speaker 4 00:07:17 There. Yeah. Man. Will Willie Hillbilly Willie Hillbilly Willy Speaker 1 00:07:20 Willie Willy <laugh>. Love to see that. That makes you think of Kentucky, huh? Speaker 4 00:07:23 Oh yeah, man, he's a, he's definitely an honorary hillbilly. That dude is dude, that's a hardworking kid, man. He is, man. I got a lot of great young dudes, uh, in the band. Uh, it started with a dude that started playing with me like four years ago, five years ago. He was like 17. And this, this kid, I needed a bass player, a little story here real quick. Yeah. You, you tell me. I got stories from days we're Speaker 1 00:07:47 Down, let's go. It's a podcast, man. Speaker 4 00:07:49 I ain't never been accused of being quiet, so hey Speaker 1 00:07:50 Bro, it ain't, it ain't radio tour where you got, where you, where you talk for two minutes in a little room and then it airs like a day later. We're we're talking about all the real shit. You got, you got the floor Speaker 4 00:07:59 Lv tos. No, man, I, I love this kid. He's, uh, he's like my little brother at this point. Uh, this kid named Jacob Miller. I needed a bass player for a gig. We were going out to, um, what's it called? Fort Collins, Colorado to open up for Aaron Watson and venues, you know, 4500, 50, 500 people. I think a place called Thunder Mountain out there. And I need a bass player. So this dude, he's like, Hey, I, this kid played bass on these demos the other day with this artist I'm working with. Uh, you know, he's your guy, he's your guy. So he gives me his number and I call this kid and he's like, Elvie, I seen you guys play at the Wild Horse last week. Hell yeah, man, I'm in it and let's do it. And I'm like, hell, I like this kid's attitude already. And, uh, I tell him where I tell him where everything's at and, and he signs off with Elvie, I'll fucking be there. And I'm like, oh Lord, this kid is ready. You know, <laugh>. So I show up to s i r and uh, at rehearsal and I look back at the back of the room and this dude's back here, he is got his little, you know, pea bass or jazz bass, whatever, bright green strings, DIA delo, martos, like candy school strap, and a little pv amp sitting the same. It's about 10 inches tall or nothing. <laugh>. I walk in and I'm like, oh Lord, what have I done? Speaker 1 00:09:20 <laugh>. Speaker 4 00:09:21 So we have rehearsal and he plays bass like a guitar player, you know, you know, you can pick it out, right? So I'm like, all right, so this dude's really a guitar player, but, uh, but he's doing it. So I, you know, everybody, everybody's got a story of every guitar player has a story of where they took a gig playing bass and not knowing what they're doing. That's how I got on the worship team at church. Come on Buddy <laugh>. So, so, um, we get through practice and I was like, man, it did good. I said, but I think you should go home and, and listen to people like, you know, listen to Mark Hill, listen, uh, listen to Steve Mackey's stuff. Go listen to Stapleton was really popular, you know, with that first record right then. So I was like, go listen to that Stapleton stuff that's hot right now. Speaker 4 00:10:06 Listen to his bass player. He's like, cool man. So two weeks he's gone practicing. We show up to leave and kid gets in the, in the van and it's 21 hours out there with all our stops and everything. And he never said a single freaking word the whole time we were in the van. I'm just like, damn, this kid is tripping me out, man. We get there, we play the show, he nails, it sounds just like a bass player's been playing bass all his life, man. And, but he's just stiff as aboard, scared to death a whole show. And me and my partner, we walk up to him after the show, we're like, man, Jacob, you killed it, dude, but what's wrong? You look scared to death. He said, that was my first show. <laugh>, his first show was for like 5,000 people. Man. He sold his guitar and tra or he traded his guitar in for a bass right after he got off the phone with me at a pawn shop. Speaker 4 00:10:59 He had never played bass in his life. Oh boy. So, but now he's man, talk about dedication though. Yeah, dude, that, that dude's on it. And uh, so he was the first addition to the band, and then, uh, Willie came next, he'll build with Willie and that dude, like he's, when he started playing the band, I would, I would jump on his Instagram and I see him all the time. He's just, he's practicing. He's working, he's in the gym, he's taking good care of himself. He's, he's like, he's just driven man. And uh, and then with the help of Jacob and Will and Kyle Davis, another buddy of mine that plays keys into Man, we've, we've put together a, you know, at this point, a family, uh, that's been through the ringer. Speaking of Ringer, was that me? <laugh> probably. Speaker 1 00:11:40 No, it's all good, man. And that's, and there's something to be said for having that family on the road. I mean, you talk about 21 hours and, and doing it in a van. We've, we're with our crew and we're usually out, we're eight guys in a van driving wherever, you know, van, you gotta, you gotta have, it's all, you gotta have a good, be able to have a good hang, you know, there's no rooms for, uh, what, what do you, what do you always say? I say Speaker 4 00:12:01 That there's no, uh, no extra room for egos, <laugh>, no extra room for egos. Yeah. Yeah. If you're gonna have a ego, you better be ready to turn right around and and be self-deprecating, you know, real quick too. So, um, yeah, man, it, it's, the brotherhood's really important and I've always wanted to treat my band. You know, I, I've seen plenty of hired guns out on the road and I see the, I see the interactions and I, I've always wanted my band to feel more like a cohesive unit in a family. And, and, uh, that's what we're trying to build here five years into Macon. And I, I feel pretty good about this group of guys we got now. Speaker 1 00:12:35 Hell yeah. So what was, what was the last show that you were able to go out and play Speaker 4 00:12:40 The last show, man. Uh, we actually just got done doing like 135 shows. Um, we've been in, uh, we've been cooped up in a studio for weeks doing a little virtual radio tour thing. I say a little virtual radio tour, but, but it was, uh, this dude named Ron Fair came from, came over here from LA like five years ago. And he's huge producer and label guy from from LA that that's done all this stuff with like Christina Aguilar, the Pussycat Dolls. Yeah. He's got Keisha Cole over here this week. He's like, come over here and hang out while we, while me and Keisha cut some stuff. I'm like, what <laugh>? Okay, cool. So, yeah. But, uh, no man, I, I don't know, I've been really lucky to meet some cool people like that. But Ron came over and he built this studio and, and then he started thinking, I think it was even before Covid came around, he started thinking, I wanna get some video cameras and stuff in here. Speaker 4 00:13:35 So then Covid hits and ba it's just like Perfect Storm for his studio and my labeling him get hooked up and they're like, we gotta do radio tour. We gotta figure out how to do radio tour. And I was lucky enough, I didn't think that it was luck when they first started talking about it, but I was like, I was lucky enough to be the, the first dude to get to try out this virtual radio tour thing. And, uh, so we go in there and Ron's studio, it's called Fair Craft, and it's like eight different cameras set ups. They've brought in like Al Dean's lighting guy and video guy to come in and like set this place up and make it look sick. And we got my whole band in there, right? So it's all, and then they got this genius dude in the back corner. Speaker 4 00:14:15 Mike, Mike Ferron, I believe is his last name. He's a songwriter and like producer, but he's, he's real slick on computers too. So he was able to create all these crazy websites and stuff that we patched through so that if you are at a radio station, w k y, whatever, yeah. In freaking New Jersey, you can watch my show live, like real time, no delay. Like maybe a second or two if anything. But we got eight different cameras and we got a camera guy that switched 'em between the angles, you see, the guitar player, the bass player, but everything. So we do five shows a day, five days a week for like six and a half, seven weeks. God. Like that man. Yeah. It was a, I thought that was a sketchy idea at first. I didn't think I was gonna be able to like, you know, physically get through it. Yeah, it was, uh, it was definitely physically taxing, uh, sometimes mentally and emotionally taxing. Uh, but I had the time of my life and, and I got to watch this band, this group of dudes grow in front of me. And dude, it was, it was crazy, man. It was one of the best experiences of my life. Best nine. We went every, every morning at eight. We started working at nine. Our last show ended at about five Best nine to five I'll ever have in my life. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:15:21 Dude. Speaker 5 00:15:22 <laugh>. Yeah. You can't be that kind of nine to five, Speaker 4 00:15:24 Right? Dude, that's, that was Speaker 1 00:15:25 It. What's the, what's the worst nine to five you've ever had? Speaker 4 00:15:28 Oh, Speaker 1 00:15:28 Man. Think thinking about backwood, thinking about back home in Kentucky, man. Or was it here? Speaker 4 00:15:33 No, it wasn't here. Probably my, my least enjoyable job was just working like at, at mo's and rolling burritos for people. I had a really good time cause I had my boys there with me. It was like me and all my friends pretty much had free reign of mos. That was our second home. I actually, I like stayed in the parking lot for like a month one time, cuz I was broken in college and everybody was tired of me sleeping on the couches. But, uh, I would just like wake up, roll up, have some coffee, open up the back door with my key and go in and start prepping early, you know? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:06 Dude, my favorite thing at MO'S is the stack. Speaker 4 00:16:09 Oh, the, Speaker 1 00:16:10 The stack. It's like the, it's like the crunch wrap thing. It's like where you roll it up and then it's got the crunch thing in the middle. You ever made those? Speaker 4 00:16:16 I guess I, I guess I'm og mo's man. It's, Speaker 1 00:16:19 You're og just the breath. So you're just, yeah. How Speaker 4 00:16:21 Old are you guys? I'm Speaker 1 00:16:22 25. You're 20? Speaker 4 00:16:23 27. You're 27. So, yeah, I, I mean, I guess I got five, I got five more years on you. So Yeah, <laugh>. So I guess that could, I could be considered og mos. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:33 See up in New Jersey. We didn't get Mos in, in New Jersey, in New York until like fairly recently. Like probably like within the last five, six years maybe I'm Speaker 4 00:16:42 Down with most, but, but dude, since we're, are Speaker 1 00:16:44 You a Chipotle Speaker 4 00:16:44 Guy? I'm a Chipotle guy. Speaker 1 00:16:45 So are we with the, when when you're on the road everywhere, for the most part there's a Chipotle. Unless you're really out in bfe, like there's usually a Chipotle. We stop at Chipotle all the time. Dude, I, I Speaker 4 00:16:57 Just like it because, and I know we're, we're getting off the rails a little bit, but I, I love me some burritos. I love me some quesadillas, but, but it's like, there's just seems a little bit more, uh, fresh I guess. Yeah. And, and you got options, man. Like I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying to turn things around a little bit. I'm 32, so I'm trying to get in in better shape than I've ever been. You can go to Chipotle and get good food. Speaker 1 00:17:20 You can't, you can do, and the burrito bowl I think is the way to go. Yeah. That's it. Without, without tortilla. And then you get, you, you say that it's to go even if you're gonna eat it there, cuz then you put the little tinfoil thing on top and you mix it all up. Toss it like a, we, Speaker 5 00:17:32 We haven't been going a lot recently cuz we've been off the road, but I actually saw an article the other day where, uh, Chipotle's gonna start charging extra for the burrito with the bowl, like the burrito shell. Speaker 4 00:17:42 Oh man. Speaker 5 00:17:42 Because they figured out that hack of how people were making extra burritos and stuff out of it. So they're gonna start charging the shells are now gonna be extra. Oh Speaker 1 00:17:51 Man. Dude, dude, dude, we're we're good to talk about food, man. We do that on here all the time. Hey man, Speaker 4 00:17:55 Sandy, you're talking about that Bo our generation says the word carbs way too much. But you know that bowl saves some carbs, you know, it does Speaker 1 00:18:02 <laugh>. It does man. And it and it tastes good. You get, if, if you're a big rice guy like myself, you get, you get your, you get your amount of rice, you get your amount of chicken, you Speaker 4 00:18:10 Get, I mean, you just Speaker 1 00:18:11 Get crazy though. Lunch, Speaker 4 00:18:12 You get lunch and you get and lunch get veggies. You get Speaker 1 00:18:15 Fajita Speaker 5 00:18:15 Veggies. Yeah, dude, I get the double, I get double meat, chicken and steak with feta veggies. Sick Speaker 1 00:18:21 Damnit boys. Speaker 5 00:18:22 Yeah. Speaker 4 00:18:23 Y'all making me hungry, man. <laugh>. Y'all make me hungry. Speaker 5 00:18:26 We're good at that. Where's Speaker 1 00:18:27 Your, where's your favorite spot to go to? For Mexican or burrito stuff? Here in Nashville, Speaker 4 00:18:31 Uh, what's it called? Down off like Hayes in 19 Los Palmas. Is it? Oh Speaker 5 00:18:36 Yeah, Speaker 1 00:18:37 Los, so Los Palmas is actually where me and Tyler got together and decided we were gonna make a podcast. That's Speaker 4 00:18:43 Where the meeting took place. That's where Speaker 1 00:18:44 The meeting, Speaker 5 00:18:45 Yeah, we, we met at the one that's off of eighth on, uh, next to that Kroger. Speaker 4 00:18:49 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 5 00:18:49 You're down like Bell meat or uh, Speaker 1 00:18:51 Up by that Chick-fil-A. That's always got a damn line around it. You Speaker 5 00:18:54 Bear Hill area. Speaker 4 00:18:55 Yeah, I, uh, I have made some, I've made some business deals myself at Lost Palmas. It's, it's a, it's a Speaker 1 00:19:01 Spot of business. It's a spot of pleasure. Good food, good people. Speaker 4 00:19:05 We so cheap the system, man in the music industry. It's like, well let's go eat somewhere nice. We can throw that on our taxes. Amen. We made a business. Hey Speaker 1 00:19:13 Bro. Bro, that's how you gotta do it. Hey. But Speaker 4 00:19:16 We really did. It was a meeting. Speaker 1 00:19:18 It was a meeting stuff got signed. Thanks, Sam. Hands. Hands. It was pretty cool. We were shaking hands, you know, it's business. So shaking Speaker 4 00:19:27 Hands, what do you mean shaking hands? Shaking Speaker 1 00:19:29 Hands. Speaker 4 00:19:29 You can't shake hands, man. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:19:31 The the in beast city. I don't wanna lead Speaker 4 00:19:34 You down that tra I don't leave you down before Speaker 1 00:19:37 Covid. So are you a big I love you big sports guy. You a UK or a Louisville guy, Speaker 4 00:19:42 Man, honestly, my, um, no <laugh> Speaker 1 00:19:46 No, Speaker 4 00:19:47 I was going to try to make it not a sports guy. I was gonna try to ease into it, but, uh, not really. I mean, I got into sports a little bit when I first met my wife, her, uh, her little brother played basketball in high school and they had a solid team. Football and, and basketball team both went to state and, uh, so she was, she was really athletic growing up. Um, so of course I had to be at all those games. So it's like you have no choice but to, to start getting into it a little bit. But mostly I would just go and yell at the refs, you know? Oh. Oh. That's Speaker 5 00:20:17 My favorite thing, dude. Speaker 1 00:20:18 Man. I, I like to, I, especially hockey, like being from the Northeast, I would go to a lot of like college hockey games and I would yell some shit. It was not good. It's so I'm blind, I'm deaf. I want to be a ref. When I'm get along, Speaker 5 00:20:30 I can't see, I wanna be a referee. Get off, Speaker 1 00:20:32 Get off your, get off your knees blue. You're blowing the game. Like, God, man, you know, like even from wait, wait, I got that, that, that, that heckler in me. So not What do you like doing when you're not doing the music thing? Speaker 4 00:20:44 Man, I try to chill as much as possible, but no, I love to, uh, I love to be in the woods. You know, you're an outdoors guy. I like to be in the woods, but what I really like to do and what I do every day way more than I should is just drive. I like to drive my car, man. I'm a car guy through and through. You got that nice mustang, don't you? I well I, I appreciate it. If you think it's nice. I I like it pretty good. You know, I'm a Mustang guy. All right. Good deal. Yeah, I, uh, I've always been a Ford guy, you know, I know a lot of people like to hate on me for that, but first on race day, whatever, um, this Mustang was is like the, the physical thing that represents, uh, you know, me obtaining that little dream. Speaker 4 00:21:24 And I always told myself when I, when I got a record deal, I was gonna go buy me one of these new body style white Mustang gts. Little did I know that record deals don't really come with money like they used to back in the day. So, yeah, I mean, unless you're into hip hop or something. I've heard about those guys making like millions off top, but I can't It ain't like that around here. No, no man <laugh>. So dude, I, I, I go, I get my record deal and I'm like, whatever. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm making better money than I've I've ever made in my life at this point. And and when did you sign that? This was two years ago. It'll be two years ago in February. So I, I was making money through my publishing deal and my wife's got a good job and, and, and we're, you know, we're doing all right. Speaker 4 00:22:07 So I'm like, I, I've never had a nice vehicle. I've maybe had three out of the a hundred vehicles I've had since I was a teenager, had air conditioning that worked for a little while until I hit a deer with it or something, you know, <laugh>. So I'm, I'm gonna get me a nice car and I want this Mustang Treat yourself working, treat yourself. I've been working too damn hard. I want this Mustang. So no, I, dude, I can't wait for nothing. It's terrible. It's a, it's a disease. But I, I go to Clarksville cuz I, I seen this white Mustang GT on, on Facebook marketplace and I've seen this older GT 500 and I'd done the math and I was like, okay, if I buy a car that's in this range of money, I can afford this and I ain't gonna have money for shit else, but I'll have my car, you know? Speaker 4 00:22:52 Yeah. So I go look at it and they tell me, okay, here's, here's what's your payment's gonna be. And I was just like, I'll see y'all, you know, come back to Nashville. I go to Guitar Center and there's a Fender, a white Mustang a a fender Mustang guitar hanging on the wall. And I was just like, here's my new white Mustang man, this'll have to do <laugh>. So I give, you know, I paid whatever for this guitar. I go home and I pop my laptop open right before I go to bed that night. And up pops this ad of this car I'd been looking at the night before. And I was like, God dang it. I looked down at my guitar and I was like, this just will not do <laugh>. So I'll get up in the morning, I get a 70 something dollars Uber to Clarksville, Tennessee, and I buy this car, oh man. Speaker 4 00:23:40 And uh, show back up just in time for my right with, uh, I believe I was with Ryan Beaver and Aaron Essis that morning over at Smack. So I show up revving up in my Mustang, you know, just hillbilly wild in the back parking lot of smack <laugh> acting like an idiot. But man, I I, uh, I haven't regretted it since. I love that car and it, and it's just, I don't know it, like I said, it kind of is the physical thing that that represents. Cause when you get into all this stuff, man, and you get going just like your podcast that you're doing and stuff, it's like, you always feel like this is what it's gonna feel like when I start doing that. Or this is what it's gonna feel like when I get this many people listening to my, my podcast or my song. But then when you get into it and you've been working so hard, man, it just feels like, okay, there's that milestone. What's the next one? And it's like, we never really take time to, uh, I I I guess I'm guilty of it. I don't know if you guys are, I'm sitting here accusing you of it, but I, I just figure it's human nature, you know? Yeah, Speaker 1 00:24:38 No, it, it is human nature. It absolutely is for sure. I mean there's, there's certain things like when I've, when I moved down here, I definitely, because for me the goal was getting to Nashville. I had worked in country radio open jersey before I moved down here. And I'm not a musician. I can play smoke on the wa like the beginning of smoke on the water. I just learned that like two weeks ago. And I think it's the coolest thing that I can do that cuz I, I do not know every, Speaker 4 00:25:00 If I smoking the water was cooler shit when they first feed it Speaker 1 00:25:03 Out. I think it's the dopest. Speaker 4 00:25:04 Go on man. Shit. It's awesome. I'm like, Speaker 1 00:25:05 Hell yeah. So, um, but um, but yeah, no, I, I didn't move down to want doing the music stuff. But like now, like you said, as things are starting to grow and whatnot, maybe one day I'll get, I'll get to that, that white Mustang level. Like, well I don't know what my car be. What was your first car? My first Speaker 4 00:25:20 Car. Speaker 1 00:25:21 All these other cars. What was your first car? Speaker 4 00:25:22 Let's talk about some cars here. Speaker 1 00:25:23 Cause I feel like me and you can really talk about some beaters probably. Speaker 4 00:25:26 Yeah, man, <laugh>, I, my very, very first, first car, I never liked to admit this because it, it didn't have the right emblem on the front of it. But my, my brother-in-law back in the day, my sister's like ex-husband. He had this little shit box 85 s 10 with a 2.5 liter and a five speed <laugh> and it wouldn't do over 45 mo dude. So I buy this thing off of him for $500 on credit. <laugh> <laugh>. I buy this thing for $500 from Speaker 1 00:25:59 God Speaker 4 00:26:00 Love it. And I, I gotta work on it. Cause like the lights don't work. The brake lights don't work. Nothing. Me and my dad, luckily, I, I was pretty handy with stuff by, by the time I started driving cause my dad had had me, had a wrench in my hand since I was like six. But, uh, I get this truck going and it's my first experience out on my own man in the wild, right? So I'm on my way to Litchfield our, our county seat. I'm gonna go cruise the loop, you know, courthouse the taco Belling back and I'm gonna squeal tires and shit cuz this thing won't run but 45 mile an hour. But it'll chirp, it'll chirp tires in every gear. <laugh>. And, uh, I'm on my way from Canyonville to Litchfield and I've come through this little community in, in, in my county called Millwood. Speaker 4 00:26:42 And outta nowhere this thing decides it's going to just lock up back in, locks up, nobody's around, just me driving down straight, straight back in, locks up all hell, brakes, looses trucks spinning around in the middle of the road. I'm thinking, good, look what has happened. <laugh>, I don't have a cell phone or nothing man. So I'm like, oh shit. I I, it kind of jumps around a little bit. I get it off the road and I get out and I'm just like, look underneath it. And I like check the gear oil cuz I got, I got my tools on me and stuff and I'm like, all right, I don't know what that, there ain't no chunks back here or nothing. I don't know what's going on. I got back in it and it took off just fine. I'll never know what happened in that trip. Anyways, every time I try to say a short answer, I go off on a tangent, but no Speaker 1 00:27:24 Dude, that's great. Oh, this is you, you order the dream podcast guys because you say a lot of shit. There's, I say a lot Speaker 4 00:27:31 Of shit. I don't ever say nothing. No, no, don't, Speaker 1 00:27:33 No, don't, no, no. You're telling, you're telling a great story. Speaker 5 00:27:35 Totally great story, man. Speaker 1 00:27:36 You're, you're a hell storyteller. I think that that is, that explains why, why you're here doing this music thing as a songwriter and as a country singer because nobody tells stories like country singers, you know, like Speaker 4 00:27:46 My dad was a truck driver. I'm just real full of shit, man. I get it. Honest <laugh> um, I love that. No man. But I had that S 10 just for a little while. I got rid of it and my dad had like a 95 Ford F-150. It was, uh, you know, white and red. The farmer paint job. Yeah. And, uh, four wheel drive. I had ran it into a tree when I was like 15. Anyway, so it was like he was tired of driving around this busted up truck that I ran into a tree and, and I got it and I should have kept it. But then, you know, I seen a little Ford ranger that needed to be, that had some seventeens on it and was lowered and it needed a primer job. Jumped in that thing. Did I hit deer in that Ford Ranger like three separate times. <laugh> like Speaker 1 00:28:35 How, how'd, how'd the truck do? Speaker 4 00:28:37 Well me and my dad had to put a whole different front end on it twice. God. Yeah. And then I had to put a bed on it one time. Yeah, that truck went through hell. And then my buddy Brock Decker bought that truck and went and put a slick paint job on it, burnt orange and put some like 19 inch wheels. It was a cool little truck. After they got it away from me, I got in trouble for all the, all the shit that I left under the seats. I remember that my boys, I sewed it to, they were, well I sold it to a couple other buddies and Brock got it from them, but they were just like, dude, there's moldy donuts in here. Oh Speaker 1 00:29:09 Man, you a crispy cream guy. Is that where you're getting your donuts from? Speaker 4 00:29:12 No, man. I like the little, Speaker 1 00:29:14 This like gas. Speaker 4 00:29:14 Are these little gas station powdered donuts? No. Speaker 1 00:29:17 A moldy powder. Powdered donut. Man. Shit's gotta be yellow. Speaker 4 00:29:21 They were mad at me. They were mad. Speaker 5 00:29:23 Oh dang. Dude, Speaker 4 00:29:25 I've had a lot of cars on, man. What, what? Gimme a beater story. So Speaker 5 00:29:28 My first car was an 88 Bronco two. Speaker 4 00:29:32 Oh cool Speaker 5 00:29:32 Man. And my grandpa was driving it home cause I had yet to really get my license. He bought it like right before I turned 16. And, uh, on the way home he blew out the transmission seals in it. So we fixed the transmission, but it had an oil problem. So like it would just randomly lose oil pressure. So like, there'd be multiple times. I had like a little like Nokia, like, you know, pay for the minute phone and like I, I'm just my Speaker 1 00:29:59 Walmart special baby dude. Yeah. Speaker 5 00:30:00 I'm in like south Alabama where there's hardly any service anyways. So basically like I'd lose oil pressure and like have to like walk like a half mile and find self service. Call me like, Hey, we lost oil pressure. Like, come pick me up. Speaker 4 00:30:13 What would you have to do to get your oil pressure back up? Was it losing oil? Speaker 5 00:30:16 Yeah, it was losing oil. Lose pressure and then like the gas gauge didn't work. So there'd be times where like all of a sudden I just ran outta gas and you're like, well here I am, so bring me some gas please. And then, uh, kind of the same thing though, where I transitioned outta that and then my grandpa had an old 1990 F-150, the 5.8 liter V8 with uh, the extended bed, dual tanks, all that kind of stuff on it. And I drove that truck for forever and I love that truck. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:30:44 3 51, that was the 3 51. I think the Windsor or whatever that that motor was around for a long time. They're about to come back with a push rod engine Ford is, uh, like a 6.2 or something that they're gonna put in the Mustang in and pick up trucks. Speaker 5 00:30:56 Hell yeah. And then I went through what I call my hoopty phase where I went through Speaker 4 00:31:00 Hoopty phase. I had a hoop hoopty Speaker 5 00:31:01 Phase where I went through like a 1990 Buick saber. It's hoopty Speaker 4 00:31:04 Politically Speaker 5 00:31:05 Correct. Ah, Speaker 4 00:31:06 We'll Speaker 5 00:31:07 See. And then I had like a 1998 os mobile 88 that had like, both of 'em had purple plush interior. Yeah, Speaker 4 00:31:16 I'm gonna find it because I had a 1980 mercury monarch. A red one. Yeah. And I had 20 inch five spokes on it. And I was bebopping around bowling green just like I was, I put Speaker 5 00:31:26 Twelves in the back of that, those man, like Yeah. Oh Speaker 1 00:31:29 God. Yeah. I don't, so I don't, I don't have necessarily a beater story. When I first moved down here though, it was actually the night that I moved down here. So I don't drink anymore. I've been sober for 40 years. That's good, man. D dabble within the greener, do all that fun stuff. But, um, so I was dd and we had to go and pick up this kid Jacob, who I'd never met before. I drove 14 hours and then had to go, we had to go pick this kid up from a bar in spring home call our Speaker 5 00:31:50 Residence. Were rednecked. Yeah. He's like, Speaker 1 00:31:51 He's he's red man. He's red as hell. Um, but he had this old truck, I forget what if it was a Chevy or a four, whatever the, the speedometer on it or the nothing worked on it. So you could tell the speed. He had a Garmin like plugged in and that's how you had your speed. Yeah. With, Speaker 4 00:32:06 With your GPS on a couple of Speaker 1 00:32:08 Load with a gps. Speaker 5 00:32:09 I've had a couple of Speaker 1 00:32:10 Those. One light didn't work. I had to drive this thing and I, I was a little, I was a little, got my Willie Nelson on, so I just moved here. I'd never driven an old truck like that. I had to drive it like three, four miles down the road. That was one with a, with a drunk Jacob saying, you got new dish, you got new, he's cranking. You got new this. He's pulling Yeah. With a big old wad of cope hanging in his mouth. Dude, it was, I got used to Tennessee real quick, you know. Oh, that sounds Speaker 4 00:32:34 Like the favorite Tennessee I first met. Speaker 5 00:32:36 One of my favorite things was my old os the driver's side door wouldn't open from the outside. Speaker 4 00:32:43 Oh man. We've all had one of those. That's the pain in the, but Speaker 5 00:32:46 To even open it up like half the time it wouldn't open, but open it up. You had to like hit the passenger side unlock button once, twice, third time, hold it for three seconds and then it would open. Or you just crawl through the passenger side. Yeah. But that thing had like no headliner and it got to the point where I literally had to take a bungee strap and like bungee the doors together so they would stay closed in the back like it was anytime you gotta get bungees out, you know? Speaker 4 00:33:12 Yeah. You know, you gotta beat her. I was in Speaker 5 00:33:14 College, so like, you know, we were Speaker 4 00:33:16 You had the one though, you had that one truck you said run outta oil pressure. Yeah. So had a 69 C 10. I'd bought off this dude for a few hundred bucks. It was a piece, man. It was two beautiful Speaker 5 00:33:25 Trucks, Speaker 4 00:33:26 Two 50 in line six, three speed on the floor. Long bed, two wheel drive. This thing was a piece of shit <laugh>. But it was kind of cool cause it was such a piece of shit. So yeah. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna drive this for a little while. I still had my little, my little Ford ranger, but I was like, I'm just gonna beat around in this little beater truck and put some white walls on it or something and slam it and whatever. And uh, I was on my way home one night on a wk parkway from Litchfield and dies loses oil pressure. Well, it, dude, it would drink a freaking QUT of oil for every five miles. She drove it. Yeah. So I don't know what to do. I did have a cell phone at this point. So I, uh, I called Speedy, who's this cop in my hometown. Speaker 4 00:34:11 All right. I think I made a, maybe I called the, the actual sheriff's department and was like, Hey, I'm broke down on the parkway between Litchfield and Canyonville. I need some oil for my truck to be and I can drive right back home. So this is where Speedy comes in. Speedy, speedy. Hey ripped me my first ticket. I ran Speedy. And this dude named Kingfish, another, another dude from my hometown, I ran him off the road on my way home in the red and white pickup truck <laugh>. And I thought I seen that. I ran them off the road coming around a curb. And so I was like, well, they're in the ditch. I can make it to high school. They'll never know who I was. That's, that's some Dukes of hazard shit, man. Man, that's stupid. Is what it was. So I take off up this 54 and I don't know how we got here, but I love it. Speaker 4 00:34:53 Speedy. This is speedy. Speedy. So I get up to Ray pretty road and I cut across and sure enough, there's a car stopped, there's a train coming. And I'm thinking about this car in front of me. I'm like, you idiot, do you not know that there are cops after me? Don't worry about this train. Put your life in danger and get outta my way. You know, <laugh>. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, I'm just like, oh God, maybe he won't show up. And then I hear, pull that mother girl over <laugh>. And I was like, oh no, that sound like a bullhorn. Well, speedy has done. Pull me over dude. I'm like, this is my first ticket. So I'm scared to death. He pulls me over, he knows my mom and dad. He's like, man, he's like, I gotta write you ticket. Kingfish was in there. Speaker 4 00:35:34 You almost made me kill him. You know, he is in the passenger seat, <laugh>. So he writes me a ticket. I work at a shop. I had to like work on their cop cars too. Anyways, all right, get back to the story. Uh, speedy shows up and uh, I'm like, oh no, it's you. He's like, at this point we're cool. So he, he gets me in his cruiser front seat, takes me to Walmart, we get some oil and we're on our way back and he's got all, you know, everything's on inside this cop car. I've never been in a cop car before. And I'm like, this is cool. And this car pops up over the hill ahead of us and he goes, Ooh, you see that? And he pointed and it says, it says 81 mile an hour, or it says 81. And he said, that's, that's a radar. And back then it was 65 mile per hour speeds. Zone. Yeah. Everywhere. And so he, he looks over at me and says, you wanna see somebody's ass asshole pucker up real quick? <laugh>. I was like, I don't know what that means, <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:36:27 I, Speaker 4 00:36:28 I guess. Oh. So hits every button on that thing and lights come on, everything comes on. This car slows down to like 58, you know, and it says 58. And he turns, he dodges towards the median, turns everything back off, gets on the road and takes me in my truck and put on it and I drive home. But I got to see what it was like to scare the hell out of somebody who's speeding right now. Which I don't appreciate, because that's usually me now that's slamming on her brakes, singing. Oh God, am I going to jail or am I gonna get a ticket? But, oh Speaker 1 00:36:58 Man. Oh man, dude, that, that's awesome. So you, you really live the, the country life. Like you were, you were out there. Speaker 4 00:37:05 Yeah, man. Keville Keville. It's uh, it's a real small town. It's a how, Speaker 1 00:37:08 How many kids in your high school? Speaker 4 00:37:10 Uh, we had a Speaker 1 00:37:11 Big, you got Speaker 4 00:37:11 More than boo. We had a big high school. You know, I, I would be lying if I said any number cuz I, I have no idea. But I know we were a six A, uh, yeah, Speaker 5 00:37:19 We were a one A. Speaker 4 00:37:20 Yeah. Well our thing was, we had imagine being a kid back then and, and this story is like 77 and you've got four, I think there were four different high schools in my county. It's a pretty big county, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe the biggest county per acreage in the state of Kentucky, Grayson County. Um, we had like, I believe either three or four high schools and they all consolidated into one high school in the seventies. Could you imagine the fights and the, and the bull crap that you would have to go through? Yeah. All Speaker 1 00:37:51 Those rivalries. Speaker 4 00:37:52 Yeah, dude. Cause you had, like, Litchfield had a couple schools and Litchfield is kinda like the, I mean, the equivalent of the, of the city where I come from, but it's small town. Yeah. You know, and then you got like Keville and Clarkson and, and we was Holler boys from Katy View and Clarkson, we was rough, you know, so throwing us in the middle of, you know, these people who grew up pretty much in a different culture in Lidsville. But, uh, but all those schools con uh, came together and consolidated back in the seventies. So we, it was a pretty big community there, you know, and in the high school, I would say I probably graduated with 300 people or so. I Speaker 1 00:38:29 Don't know. Okay. Yeah. Speaker 5 00:38:30 Yeah. We had 300 people maybe K through 12, like Speaker 4 00:38:33 <laugh>. Oh, wow. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:38:34 He's, he's been, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm up in New York. We had two, two high schools in my one district. Yeah. And we each graduated 400 kids. We each graduated like four or 500 kids a year. Really? So that's New York. I, I grew up like 30, 40 minutes outside the city, so, so Speaker 4 00:38:46 There's like people you probably didn't even really know in your high school? Speaker 1 00:38:49 Oh, ab absolutely. Yeah. Wow. There's people in my hometown. I don't know. I mean, there's Speaker 4 00:38:52 A lot of people in my school, but I think I knew everybody. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:38:55 That Yeah. Speaker 5 00:38:56 Yeah. I, I definitely knew everybody. Speaker 1 00:38:58 Oh yeah. At least knew everybody that came from. Yeah. Oh yeah. Boudreau knew Boudreau knew the lunch lady. Boudreau knew the, knew the, um, knew the Janet, he knew everybody. I'm sure Speaker 4 00:39:07 I, I'll put it this way, I knew if there was somebody new walking down the hallway. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Might not know and talked to everybody, but I tried to talk to everybody, man. I, I tried to be a social butterfly. I knew some of 'em didn't like me too. That was fun. A little bit, you know, go to the side of the gym. You're not really supposed to, you know, you're not welcome here. Oh, yes, I am. <laugh> Speaker 5 00:39:27 Sounds like, man. I'm gonna Speaker 4 00:39:28 Make all your friends think you're my friend. <laugh> Speaker 5 00:39:32 <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:39:32 So what, what kind of music were you jamming to in high school? Speaker 4 00:39:35 Man, I'm, I'm a pretty old soul. I guess. I, I mean, I was jamming what, everybody was jamming my age. Um, the, the pop punk stuff was really popular. Okay. Then, you know, Eminem was real popular. Hip hop and general was popular. I'm just an m and m fan. And, uh, yeah. But I was still really listening to a lot of early Steve Earl stuff. John Fogerty. I was introduced to John Fogerty through his solo stuff in the nineties, blue Moon Swamp, which then led me into CCR later on when I was a teenager and learning guitar and stuff, which I'm still pretty terrible at. But, uh, I, you know, I tr I try, I try. But, uh, no, th that Steve Earl stuff is definitely a foundation. And I was still singing gospel every Sunday at church with my mom and, and stuff like that. Hymns. So, Speaker 5 00:40:29 So do you find that like singing in church and gospel has led more towards you wanting to do music or? Speaker 4 00:40:35 I think singing in church gave me my first opportunities to sing in, in front of people and de and, and develop, uh, my voice a little bit. Make me realize that it was an ability, I guess. Yeah. Um, yeah. But definitely it all led, you know, to where we're at now. Yeah. In some way form or fashion. Speaker 1 00:40:56 Yeah. That's something I've noticed coming from outside the Bible belt to down here. A lot of folks, they, they say you always ask, Hey, so when did you get your start? And they're like, well, I sang in church. Well I played in church. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, why did this mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like just the, the community factor. It's awesome that, that that opportunity is there. Cause like I grew up in like, right, what's basically the, I grew up in the Episcopal church, basically like the Catholic church, but people joke that it's the Catholic church, but you're allowed to smoke. That's the, that's the, that's the joke about the Episcopal church. But like, we don't have like the whole worship man thing and like the music isn't like a huge part of it. And I've gone the stu gone the things down here and whatnot where they, where um, where like music's a big part of the service and or, or as I would say the mass. And it's, it's super cool to see and like, yeah, I wish we had that grow up. What, Speaker 5 00:41:41 Uh, what kind of domination did you grow Speaker 4 00:41:42 Up? I grew up in a very, very old fashioned, strict, uh, missionary Baptist. Okay. Which, uh, which is funny to call it strict because the whole thing is like pretty much once forgiven, all forgi, uh, always forgiven, you know, so it's like you can, the the belief is I guess you can pretty much do whatever you want to <laugh> afterward. You're not supposed to, obviously. Yeah. But, but, uh, no man, we used to call that Speaker 5 00:42:06 Your, you were, uh, getting your fire insurance. Speaker 4 00:42:09 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:42:11 <laugh>. Speaker 4 00:42:13 That's good man. I, uh, you know, I think they're all pretty similar where I come from, all the churches, there's little nuances, but I remember, you know, like my church would have debates with Church of Christ Church is, and then there was like General Baptist, which the only difference between us and General Baptist, I believe was General Ba Baptist believed in, in falling from grace, which meant you could lose your salvation. But yeah, I know we don't typically typically get into religion in these kind of conversations, but it's a huge part of my, my past, my upbringing. Um, I just started, I started realizing really early on, I remember being young and going to church with my friends and being like, man, these people here believe that they're just as right as we believe we are over here. And, uh, it always really confused me. I was like, if this person thinks they're right and they think they're right, and I think I'm right, and then who is right? So it's been a, it's been cool to, uh, to grow up and start getting a little bit older, being a family man, and start trying to explore those, uh, those beliefs from, from experiences and uh, and my own convictions and stuff. That's been, uh, yeah. A neat journey to be on. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:43:19 So you say you're a family man, you got kids? Speaker 4 00:43:21 Yeah, we got one, he's 14. Uh, okay. That's the one that the song my Boy is about. When I, we wrote my boy, I'd been coming to town almost a year, um, and he was, let's see, that's four years ago. He was about nine or 10 years old. And this has been, it's a, it's a lot of back and forth man to Kentucky. Um, he's still up there. He's able to, uh, he's able to be with more family and friends. And I was down here for two years before my wife or him started coming down here. I was down here for two years trying to make things happen. I was gone all week down here, writing songs, meeting people, and then playing shows on the weekends that I was booking myself. So that was, that was pretty rough. Uh, it was hard. It was hard on, it was hard on me. Speaker 4 00:44:06 It was hard on family. It was hard on my, my marriage, uh, was a hundred percent faithful to my, to my wife, but it's just the struggles of like being separated for so long and, and, uh, you know, I'm sure she felt a little abandoned up there in, in Kentucky, but, uh, I just knew there was something down here for me, man. I, I could, I could feel it in my bones. There was something down here and, uh, just kept at it and she, uh, I gotta give it to her, man. It's, that's a tough freaking woman, dude. She is tough. Um, Speaker 1 00:44:39 It helps to have a backbone, you know, like her dude, she's Speaker 4 00:44:41 The backbone Speaker 1 00:44:42 For her to be like, to have that backbone support system, whether, whether you're a guy or a girl doing this music thing, you know, it, it's tag it's taxing on, on you as the, as the artist and the writer. But it's just as taxing if you're hitting the road a lot. And especially if there's that distance in there, takes a very special personal love musician. It really, yeah, it does. Yeah. And even, even someone that does crew work like myself, you know, it's, it's hard when you're, when you're gone a Wednesday and back on a Sunday, but then you're just constantly going and writing and pursuing this dream, like, Speaker 4 00:45:10 Yeah. And he is like such a person. I've, I've, I've had to tell Mandy, and it might sound rude, you know, to to people listening, but I've, I've got home after I've written two or three songs in a day and, you know, she's, she's, she hasn't talked to very many people that day, or she might have been home by herself all day. And she's wanting to talk and I'm just like, honey, I want to give you what you need from me right now, but I think I've used my 25,000 words for the day. I just can't do it. You know? Yeah. So it's, it's, it's really taxing on, on the, on the brain to be out there writing. Especially I, that's, that's probably, dude, honestly, like writing is, is probably the hardest part of all this. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:45:47 When did you start writing? How did, how did LV Shane go from being in Kentucky and doing, you, you told the story of that, that band back in the day and all that. How'd you get into writing songs? Speaker 4 00:45:58 Um, I think I probably started to try to write when I, well, I know I started to try to write when I was like seven or eight, just like walking. I remember walking around, I would, like, I thought everybody's property was my property on Postow Road when I was a kid, <laugh>. So I just went wherever the hell I wanted to <laugh> with a 22 rifle. And, you know, Speaker 1 00:46:17 Hey man, whenever you grow up in a small town, you can do that. You Speaker 4 00:46:19 Can, well, you used to be able to. Yeah. Uh, the, the, the county attorney had a really big farm right down the road from my house. And, and he's always been really nice to me. And I'm, I'm sure he knew when I was a kid, I was traipsing around his, his farm lot, and he never did say anything to me about it. But, but I remember walking around those fields when I was young, trying to string words together. And then I got in the band, I was actually at a General Baptist Revival, my buddy, um, my buddy Jeremy Carns, his dad was the pastor there. And for whatever reason, my mom and my, my aunts had been invited to this revival. And we, we were, we were gonna go, we didn't really ever venture out of our denomination visit in churches, but we went to, I think it was called Sunny Point, general Baptist Church this night for Revival. Speaker 4 00:47:05 And I was singing, like I always do, I love to sing hymns. And Jeremy comes up to me after the service is over and he is like, man, I heard you singing in our band. Just lost a singer. And we got a show coming up at a VFW here in Danville, Kentucky in two weeks. Can you come sing in our band? So I went and asked my mom and, uh, I was really surprised. My mom, we didn't, we didn't gha too well together at that point in my life, but I was really surprised. She was like, she let me do it. And she would take me to practice and everything over there on Sunday afternoons, but I learned like 11 of their original songs in a week. And we went and played the show and then I was their singer from that point on. And we just started writing songs, you know, as, as friends and, um, started writing more by myself when I got to college. And then Where'd Speaker 1 00:47:53 You go to school? Speaker 4 00:47:54 I went to Western Kentucky University. Okay. Speaker 1 00:47:56 The Hilltoppers beautiful campus. Speaker 4 00:47:58 I love it, man. I, I, I majored in, uh, too much partying though, and ended up failing. It Speaker 1 00:48:03 Happens, man. Yeah, it Speaker 4 00:48:04 Happens. I went for creative writing and English literature and, uh, that was, there was definitely some monumental years of my life. You know, I met a, I met a really cool professor up there by the name of Rick Thompson. I think he's still teaching up there, but he really, uh, I don't know where, where I felt like other people had always tried to get me to chill out a little bit. He, he kind of pushed me to be more vocal about those things and, and be a little risky with my, my storytelling and stuff. And a little, I, I guess a little more vulnerable. And, uh, yeah. So that was cool. Through him, uh, he might not know how much he had an impact on my, my life as a writer. I, I don't know if he does or not. Maybe if I get a chance, I'll tell him one day. But, uh, yeah, I entered some writing competitions and stuff and, and won up there and he, he was just always real cool to me and pushing me to do better. So I did get what I needed out of college. I feel like. Yeah. That's what all matters, man. Yeah, man, man. I mean, I got that in a lot of debt, so I didn't need, I didn't need that part. Speaker 1 00:49:10 <laugh>, that's, that's college for you right there? Speaker 4 00:49:12 No, stupid. I had some, I had it for the most part. I had it paid for after my first, cuz I got on Dean's list and I got this, I got some kind of scholarship thing. It was the first time I'd ever done a good in school since I was in like fourth grade. I was like, hell yeah, I'm killing this shit man. And, and then I was like, oh, but you mean I can still borrow money? I ain't never had money. Yeah, I'll take that too. <laugh>. Oh. Speaker 1 00:49:33 So Speaker 4 00:49:34 Yeah, man. Wormhole. Speaker 1 00:49:36 Yeah. So when, um, what was your first experience writing here in Nashville? Like, cuz you mentioned publishing, um, who's, do you have a pub deal currently and like, how has that experience been? Speaker 4 00:49:45 Yeah, so I was talking about all those guys earlier and, um, RJ Romeo's guy, um, Romeo Entertainment, they've been around for a long time. They started way back in the day, I think his grandfather started the company, uh, working with the circus and stuff. And it's transposed over into this talent by an agency that, that buys talent for fairs and festivals all over the United States and helps, uh, helps build fair or festivals and, and everything. So I've got to be a part of some cool things through him, but it's, it's such a cool venture to have him on board as a publisher and be an award-winning talent buyer. Um, I, I came down here, like I said, in August, 2015 with my buddy Matt Cooper and started writing with some people. He had been meeting at the bar and, uh, losers, you know, if, uh, I don't know if that's the place to go anymore, but when I first came to town, you went to Losers every day after your write to meet other writers. Yeah. And, uh, Speaker 5 00:50:39 Yeah, it's still losers or red door now. Still. Yeah, Speaker 4 00:50:42 Still. Same thing. That's good, man. It's, it's a good program. It worked. Yeah, I, uh, I I, I went off the Brailles a little bit every now and then, spent too much money at the bar, but it, it paid off. And I met some guys that I started writing some great songs with. My very first write in town was with my buddy Matt Cooper and a guy named Nick Columbia, who's also a co-writer on my Boys. So we wrote a song called Whole Pie, I believe, uh, might have been our first co-write whole, and it's w h o l e for whatever reason. When I say that, everybody thinks I, I'm saying I hope I something. That whole whole pie. Whole pie. It's that, it's that hillbilly Speaker 1 00:51:23 Freaking I was gonna say, it's the, it's your country coming out here. It's okay. Speaker 5 00:51:25 A lot of times, like, I'll say something and Matt will be like, what are you saying? And I'll have to spell it. He, Speaker 1 00:51:29 He says wandering and it sounds like wandering, like Yeah, Speaker 5 00:51:32 My Instagram is just wandering Tyler. Yeah, he's Speaker 4 00:51:34 Wandering Tyler. Speaker 1 00:51:35 But it sounds like he's thinking, not like he's wandering. Speaker 4 00:51:38 I get it. You know, Speaker 1 00:51:40 I'm learning, I'm learning to decis. Speaker 5 00:51:42 We're just not as distinguished, man. Speaker 4 00:51:44 Yeah, man. It's that hillbilly speech impediment. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:51:47 It's a real thing, man. It's, it really is. It's, Speaker 4 00:51:50 It's bad. It's a curse sometimes. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:51:52 Like I, I get, Speaker 4 00:51:53 I get called out for boom howing people all the time. <laugh> booming. Speaker 1 00:51:56 What's that? Speaker 5 00:51:57 Man, man, man, <laugh>. Speaker 4 00:52:03 He knows exactly what I just said and I know exactly what he just said. Speaker 5 00:52:06 Exactly. Speaker 1 00:52:07 I gotta, I gotta get better. What, Speaker 5 00:52:10 What do you say? You're, I'm saying something you're not saying. You're Speaker 1 00:52:13 Just Speaker 4 00:52:13 Trying to sound like Speaker 5 00:52:14 We're saying story over there. Man. We only just diet Pepper for something, something like that. Speaker 1 00:52:18 <laugh>. God damn. Speaker 5 00:52:20 Listen man. What the Speaker 1 00:52:21 Hell did Speaker 4 00:52:22 You just say? Boy? Speaker 5 00:52:23 <laugh>, Kentucky and Alabama, man. We don't finish our words and we, we mumble a lot man too. But hey, Speaker 4 00:52:28 I've rarely ever used a g on the end of a word ever in my life. Oh yeah. Speaker 5 00:52:32 No, but hey, if you ever want to think that we're bad, just go to Louisiana and chart. Speaking of the Cajuns and Creoles, Speaker 4 00:52:38 Sometimes when I'm writing songs, I call my buddy in Louisiana. If I can't make a word rhyme, I'll call my buddy in Louisiana and say, Hey, tell me how to make this word. These two words rhyme and they always get it. Yep. Speaker 1 00:52:49 <laugh> them, ca them Cajun coon ass folk down there and good old Louisiana. We love them. Where's your favorite place you've gotten to go and play a show? Speaker 4 00:52:57 Hmm. I would say, honestly my favorite place. I mean, I love my home state of Kentucky. My favorite place is Texas. I love Speaker 5 00:53:07 Texas. Amen. Yeah, dude, Speaker 1 00:53:08 We love Texas too. Speaker 5 00:53:09 I'm actually flying out there less than 48 hours. I'm Speaker 4 00:53:14 Going down there in December. As long as we can pull it off in a safe way. Yeah. I'm gonna go down there and, uh, and meet some folks. What part? Uh, Austin area. Okay, cool. Going to Austin and heading over to Truscott and gonna do some deer hunting on a ranch out there. Oh yeah. Yes. Speaker 1 00:53:31 There you go. Yeah. I like Texas a lot. And Texas is great too, because for me as a merch guy, they buy a shit ton of merch Texas folks. They support and, and if you're, they support the genuine kind of stuff too. Like, I know there's always been this Nashville, Texas kind of kind of thing or whatever, especially like the Red dirt guys go back to like guys like Randy and Wade Bowen and all those dudes. And, um, but I mean, that's starting to go away a little bit. But Bucky's, I, I know you've been to Bucky's, if you've been to Texas mm-hmm. <affirmative>. You ever been to a Bucky's yet? No. You gotta you gotta make that it is Speaker 5 00:53:59 A magical land. So Speaker 1 00:54:01 It, it is that Speaker 5 00:54:01 You'll spend way too much money out. Okay. It Speaker 1 00:54:03 Is the best spot. If you're ever on the road and you're in Texas, they're talking about possibly I think putting one in Tennessee. Speaker 5 00:54:10 No, not Tennessee, they're, or in Alabama. They're putting one in Birmingham, a little bit east of Birmingham. What is Inters Speaker 4 00:54:15 Bug East? Speaker 1 00:54:15 It is a magical bug. I like that. So it's a gas station. The truckers are not Speaker 4 00:54:21 Oh yeah. But they got the breakfast tacos. Speaker 5 00:54:23 Is that it? They got breakfast tacos. They got brisket, they got, it's the size of Speaker 1 00:54:26 A, got the Speaker 4 00:54:27 Barbecue place in the gas station. Bri, Speaker 1 00:54:29 Bro. It's like the size of a Walmart Speaker 4 00:54:31 Dude, they're amazing. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Didn't I forgot what they, they, Speaker 1 00:54:34 The, they got the Beaver. Yes, the Beaver logo. And they got, Speaker 4 00:54:37 They got these amazing breakfast Speaker 5 00:54:39 Tacos. Yeah, dude, it's so good. They are amazing. Speaker 4 00:54:41 The first time I ever made it to Texas, I'd been up for like 18 hours driving and I remember getting gas there and getting like these two, I can't remember what kind of tacos they were, but I thought they were the best tacos I'd ever had in my life. Speaker 5 00:54:54 Dude. Kolaches there too. Have you ever had a kolachi? Well, what the hell Speaker 4 00:54:57 Is a kolachi? Speaker 5 00:54:58 So basically like, think of like taking a biscuit mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then putting meat in it and wrapping it around Speaker 4 00:55:06 And then cooking Speaker 5 00:55:06 And then cooking it. So like, you can like put everyth like, like one of my girlfriend's favorites is the, uh, wait Speaker 4 00:55:13 A minute. How many girlfriends you get? I Speaker 5 00:55:15 Got one. I got one. Okay. I Speaker 4 00:55:17 Got one back up son. She is, she's, she's Speaker 1 00:55:20 From the way, the way you said that. Sorry. You sound like big papa over here. I'm start calling you Biggie Smalls. Speaker 5 00:55:25 My girlfriend's favorite Kolachi is a, uh, jalapeno sausage kolachi cheddar with cheddar in a too, bro, he Speaker 1 00:55:34 Smuggles Bucky's brisket. The dude gets stopped at TSA and they open up his suka, what the hell is this? And it's like a pound of brisket from Buckys. Speaker 5 00:55:41 It's two or three pounds or whatever, Speaker 1 00:55:43 <laugh>. Those three pounds of brisket from from Buck. That's how good Bucky's is. And then Water burger's, the other one. Oh my God. Whataburger Water burger. Did you hear, did you hear the news? What they're, they're getting ready to possibly, I think, I think it might be confirmed. Hermitage Speaker 5 00:55:56 Hermitage Speaker 4 00:55:57 Sick. Speaker 1 00:55:57 Yeah. Whataburger in Hermitage. Speaker 4 00:55:59 That's some good stuff. No, what else is really good? A lot of people don't realize it, but it's, it's the equivalent of Whataburger, um, to me is Freddy's. You ever had a Freddy's? Have Speaker 1 00:56:08 I so good. I like Freddy's Love Freddy's. I like Freddy's. Speaker 5 00:56:12 My Freddy's was a Speaker 1 00:56:13 Bad experience. Speaker 5 00:56:14 What is it? My, my experience with Freddy's was a bad one, so, oh Speaker 4 00:56:18 No, Speaker 1 00:56:18 He's, he's a, he's such a picky eater for, for a big dude. He's probably the pickiest studio ever, ever. Speaker 5 00:56:22 Believe I I had it. So last year me and my girlfriend, my girlfriend flew up here and we did the bourbon trail a little bit and we had one of the Freddy's up there, Uhhuh <affirmative>. And it just, Speaker 4 00:56:30 It just wasn't good. It hurt Speaker 5 00:56:31 You. I felt like the weight, Speaker 4 00:56:33 It hurts you didn't Speaker 5 00:56:33 It? The weight staff should have been in a waffle house. I felt like. Speaker 4 00:56:36 Did it put that like coy pad tie hurting on you? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Be careful with that. Also. Speaker 5 00:56:43 We've been drinking for three days Speaker 1 00:56:44 Straight. I was talking my phone Corey bad tie field. Yeah, man. Speaker 4 00:56:47 I was on the phone with my, with my dude Luke, uh, Luke Preston like last week. Um, he's like, what are you doing? He called me one night and I said, what are you doing? I was like, I'm eating some bad tie. He's like, oh, where'd you get that? And I was like, Cory. He's like, you ever had it for? I'm like, no man, it's pretty good. He's like, yeah, it's real good today, <laugh>. He said, wait till tomorrow. We'll see Speaker 1 00:57:05 That tomorrow. Yeah, Speaker 5 00:57:06 God. Speaker 4 00:57:07 He called me the next morning and I was like, got me, got me <laugh>. Speaker 5 00:57:12 Yeah. Tell you Speaker 4 00:57:12 He went to a shitty conversation <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:57:16 Hell yeah man. So what do you got going on? So you said going out to Texas, what do you got? The rest of what we've got left of 2020. We don't have a lot left in 2020, but, or even for 2021. What do people got to look forward to? I know you got the single out now. What, what do we got going on Speaker 4 00:57:31 Dude? So we got the single out and I was, I've, I was super against putting my boy out as my first song. Really? Yeah. That song's been around for a while, so, you know, a lot of people, it's to a lot of people it's new, but I've been singing that song for four and a half, five years now, you know? And which I, I still knew I wanted to sing it, but a lot of this stuff that we've put together, every other song that's been, that's on this project that's gonna come out is, has been written after February of last year after my record deal. Up to that point, I was always writing songs with, with my boys. We were always just trying to write good songs and, and hoping maybe we could get a great song in there, you know, one, one day. But after the record deal, I, I, I came to the realization, well I kind of got slapped in the face. Speaker 4 00:58:18 I went in for my first in a good way. I went in for, for my first meeting with, uh, the a and r staff and John Loba, who had signed me over there and at bbr R and they had just done this merger with bmg. It was a really cool time to be signing over there cuz every, everything just seemed like it was growing. They were getting a new building and super exciting. But I went in for my first meeting and they were like, lv, we feel like you got one song, man. And I was like, I feel like I didn't say this obviously, but I was like, I think y'all full shit. I feel like I got plenty of songs, you know? And, uh, that was just again, no room for Ego, right? Yeah. So, uh, I was on the bus with No Room for Ego in that moment, uh, just didn't realize it yet. Speaker 4 00:58:58 And I got back home and I thought, man, I've never had an opportunity. I'd been in a duo, uh, with one of my good friends for a little while and, and I'd just been trying to kick around any opportunity that would come around. And I got home from that meeting. I was like, I've never had an opportunity such as this one to really try to hone in on who I am, what I want my sound to be. Like, this is it, this is what they want me to do is, is find that. So, uh, kudos to the team over there at bbr R and, and to, uh, Chris Pool, my a and r guy who, who was pretty much fresh meat at bbr R He just got signed on over there as a and r, um, with Sarah Knabe, uh, heading the a r team up over there. And Chris really pushed me man to, to get, get some stuff that we would be proud of. He's, he's been a really big part of, of this music that y'all are gonna hear. But I say all that to say this 2020 happened, we've been working on so hard on this record, and a lot of this stuff is, is, is definitely very raw. Very so, so Speaker 1 01:00:00 You, is it, is it a rec record or ep? Speaker 4 01:00:03 Um, tb D Man. Tbd. Okay. Yeah. Top that. I got you. I'm I'm old school. I love, I love records, but it's so hard to keep people's freaking attention right now. Speaker 1 01:00:13 I Yeah, dude. Absolutely. Speaker 4 01:00:14 And that, you know, that's why, you know, so c o v happened. We've, I've got this project ready, I was ready to put an EP out I thought at that Speaker 1 01:00:22 Time. And then, and then tore the ep. They put it out to tour. Yeah. Speaker 4 01:00:26 Wanted to do that. But then when Covid happened, I'm like, and then it's like all the social unrest, all the election Bs Yeah. All, all, all the racial a tension going on. It was just so, like, there was so much negativity in front of my face every day. And, um, I thought one day I was like, my team was, had been adamant about putting my boy out and I really wasn't fighting him. I was just like in the back of my head worried about it. And I was finally, one day I was like, man, you know what? There's not a better time in the frigging world to put this song out and maybe just, maybe we can cut through some of the bs. There's a lot of things that people need to be paying attention to right now and paying real close attention to. But there's a lot of bullshit too. And I just wanted to cut through the bullshit and distract people from that part of it for a few minutes at a time. And, uh, you know, man, that that's what the song's doing. So it's, it's, it's cutting through. We're getting an amazing response from, from people on social media to people on radio. Have Speaker 1 01:01:31 You, have you had any fans that have like, hit you up and been like this, thank you for writing this song. Cause that it seems like one of those songs where it's really gonna hit home for some folks, like it did for you. Yeah. You know, and you Speaker 4 01:01:40 Wrote it. Yeah, dude, I, uh, I take time every day to answer multiple people on, on Instagram. Um, if, if you're listening and you wanna reach out, then Instagram usually is where I'm checking messages and, and answer 'em. Every now and then I'll go over to Facebook and, and answer some. But, um, yeah, dude, I get a lot of people, uh, reach out. It's, it's really cool. I get some people who send me huge stories. Some people just say thank you. Some people say, damn, I wish this was about a girl. And, uh, I got a lot of those for a while. So we went in the studio here while back and did a acoustic video for YouTube, uh, singing. My Girl Changed all the pronouns for those folks too. Yeah. So that'll be coming out soon. But, uh, no, man, I love the way things are going. Speaker 4 01:02:23 I don't see any point in putting another song out right now with this song doing so much and, and affecting people the way it is. I don't want to distract it in the least little bit. Um, you know, that's, that wasn't always how I felt, but that's how some members of my team have felt for a while. And, uh, I I believe they're, they're in the right thinking that way with this particular instance. I'm not saying that people that are putting all their music out right now are wrong. I'm saying for our particular situation with this song, it's working. And I, you know, we'll put more music out when we've got a, a bigger following and, and, uh, and the time feels more appropriate. Speaker 1 01:03:03 Hell yeah, man. Well, dude, it, this has been an absolute pleasure and this is our first time really meeting you. You're, you're welcome. Anytime. And, uh, we'd love to get you on a writer's round sometime and get you over at Live Oak, which I believe is one of the first spots that I believe, like you played Hasson from Live Oak was saying something. What was it about Hasson who owns Live Oak was saying something about how you had gotten up and played my boy, like right, right when you guys had first released it at Live Speaker 4 01:03:30 Oak. Yeah, so we had just released it. I was in Murfreesboro doing a TV show thing, uh, called Jimmy Bowen and Friends and Russell Sutton called me. Yeah. And he was like, Hey man, um, I go on Live Oak in 30, 45 minutes. Uh, why don't you stop by and see my boy with me? And I was like, dude, it's perfect. I'm on the way home. I gotta go right by there. Anyway, so yeah, I popped in right after we were, we at least sit and played it. But yeah, I'd love to do that, man. I've, I've had a good time with you guys. This is awesome. I, um, pretty sure this first podcast I've ever done in my life, so Hey. Hey man, there we go. Speaker 1 01:04:03 And um, so we didn't, we know you didn't bring a guitar with you. We got quite a few sitting here. You wanna play, you want, would you mind playing a tune or two cars? Speaker 4 01:04:10 I wouldn't care a Speaker 1 01:04:11 Bit buddy. Hell yeah. Awesome man. Well thank you guys for listening. Tyler, another one in the books. Yeah, man. Yeah. And uh, and as always guys, make sure you check out our boy El v Shane. He's got that big hit out right now, my boy. It's a song that it's gonna make you feel a certain type of way. It's a special song. Go out there, stream it, request it at your local radio station. Do what you gotta do. Follow him. Lv Shane music on Instagram. Speaker 4 01:04:33 That's it. Pretty much everything is at LV Shane music. Hell Speaker 1 01:04:38 Yeah. You'll go, y'all go check him out. Um, and uh, make sure you guys follow along at In The Round podcast on Instagram, in the round, on Facebook, in the Round pod on Twitter. Leave a rating. Leave a review. Five stars only baby. Let's go. Five Speaker 4 01:04:51 Stars baby. Speaker 1 01:04:52 Five stars. As always, shout out to our friends at Trailside c Hop on there. Use the promo code I t r 20% off your cbd. Delta eight THC and hemp oils out there. And uh, also shout out to Alto Media. Now that further ado, it's our boy LV Shane with some tunes for y'all. You've been listening to the In Round podcast. Speaker 4 01:05:23 I got a public education, but it didn't come from class. It came from a long rides home on the bus in the back. We were learning how to cuss from high school kids. Throw a punch, take a punch, steal a kiss. Yes. She had two years on me. The day I turned 16, I had a fox body Mustang. She had a body like a dream we ran on young love, good music. Lame found out she'd still go too far. Win a tank. Speaker 6 01:05:55 Here's two, don't come cheap. Two long losts in shotgun seats. Here's wild souls who got the streets, smarts, running down roads, county roads. Speaker 4 01:06:18 That wrench in my hand sure we're put a wrench in my plans. But daddy said good help was hard and fine. I guess I stood her up on too many. Friday Ain't night she ended up in the truck with a Speaker 6 01:06:31 Buddy. Mine. Here's too less the two long lost lovers in the shotgun seats. Here's too wild. And who got their streets? Smarts Running down in county roads. County roads roll, county roll. Here's to Speaker 4 01:06:57 The hurt from at first. Sang over, had a saw swearing. We forever stay sober. Here's to Speaker 6 01:07:05 The scrapes and the Speaker 4 01:07:06 Dance and scars on our boots. Speaker 6 01:07:09 Our cars reckless hearted. Here's to lessen. Don't come cheap. Two long lost lovers in the shotgun seats. Here's to wild and restless souls who got their streets smarts running down him. County roads, county roads, roads. Speaker 4 01:07:43 I'm always playing jacked up now to turn. Speaker 0 01:07:59 He Speaker 6 01:07:59 Ain't got my smile. Speaker 4 01:08:01 That don't Speaker 6 01:08:01 Bother me. Speaker 4 01:08:04 He's got Speaker 6 01:08:06 Somebody else Speaker 4 01:08:08 I'm Speaker 6 01:08:08 Seeing myself in. I'm hurting on every moment. God knows I missed a few the day we met. I knew I had some catch nothing to do. He ain't my blood and got my name. But he did. I feel same. I wasn't there for his first steps, but I missed ballgame here. And that ain't ever going to change. I can never walk away. Yeah. He's my son and that's my choice. He ain't my bud. He's my, he's my boy. He hit me like a train. The first time he called me dad in a three six figure creon picture with all of us holding hands. His mama said to understand if it's too soon for this. I didn't let it finish. It took to the kitchen and Stuckey on. He ain't my blood ain't got my name. But if he did, I feel the same. I wasn't there for his first steps, but I missed ballgame yet. And that ain't ever going to change. I can never walk away. Yeah. He's my son and that's my choice. He ain't my blood. He's my, he's my boy. He's Saturday morning cartoons. He's a can sleep in your room. He's bigger than the plans I had. He's making me a better man. Speaker 6 01:10:12 He ain't my blood ain't got my name Buddy Feed did. I feel the same. I wasn't there for his first steps, but I ain't missed game. Yeah. And nothing ain't ever gonna change. I can never walk away. Yeah. He's my son and that's my choice. He ain't my blood but he's my, he's my boy.