Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is up? How we doing? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast, episode 11. You got Matt and
Speaker 2 00:00:19 Tyler
Speaker 1 00:00:20 And no pod cats anymore. We
Speaker 2 00:00:22 Got the pod dogs.
Speaker 1 00:00:24 We recorded this episode with a ton of dogs here. I think there were three total. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:00:28 There was Draper, which lives with me. And then there was Smoke, which is our guest dog. And then the Koda Bear has a dog named Cooper.
Speaker 1 00:00:36 And Cooper is a wild dog. I, I live with that dog down in Spring Hill, Tennessee, and I love that dog. But that dog is still
Speaker 2 00:00:41 A puppy. That dog is like my favorite. Still a puppy. Koto. Coto Bear asked me, who's your best friend? And I always say, Cooper. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:00:48 Cooper <laugh> Cooper is a good dog. But yes. So we recorded this with a couple dogs down in this studio running around in the backyard, hanging around and
Speaker 2 00:00:55 Play. You'll hear 'em in the back. You will
Speaker 1 00:00:56 Hear them in the back. You'll also hear other animal noises. Cause our guest this week, a guy that just signed a big deal with King Song, a partnership with Roar Management and all kinds of cool things.
Speaker 2 00:01:06 Whiskey Jam. Whiskey
Speaker 1 00:01:08 Jam. Our buddy Andy Austin, who is one talented guy, learned a lot about Andy on this episode. Tyler. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:01:14 Andy's a great guy. Uh, he's another North Carolina guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:01:18 These damn North Carolina guys
Speaker 2 00:01:20 Spent time in Georgia. Yep. Oh, so, you know.
Speaker 1 00:01:22 Yeah. And, uh, big baseball fan actually played baseball in college.
Speaker 2 00:01:26 We talk, we talk baseball in this episode. We
Speaker 1 00:01:27 Do. They rip on me for being a Yankees fan. But all I gotta say, we got rings, baby. And uh, we also hear about Andy's time, uh, working as an outfitter doing, uh, basically being a professional hunting guide. I get some hunting 1 0 1 where I get to learn a lot. Andy does also gives us a treat of how he learns in Turkeys to shoot.
Speaker 2 00:01:46 Andy's a huge Turkey hunter. He uh, he got a nice one this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:01:50 He, um, he's got awesome stuff. And to wrap it all up, to put the icing on the cake for what was an incredible episode at the end of the episode, of course an original song. And when you get a guy like Andy Austen in, you don't know what you're gonna hear because it's all, you know, it's gonna be good, but you don't know what direction it's gonna go. And he gave us a real treat for this episode. A track called One Foot in the Door that he wrote with another badass songwriter, Ms. Casey Tyle. And, uh, it is a track that gives me kind of chills, he hear, ends his voice on it. So crisp. It sounds awesome down here. And you'll hear that at the end of the episode. Now let's get to it. Enough talking enough BS Tyler. Hit that damn music. Let's go in the round with Andy Austin. What is up everyone? How we doing? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler Koda Bear and instead of the podcast, we got the pod dogs with us today. We got a lot of dogs in the house, some outside, some inside. And speaking of dogs, one of the guys that brought a dog with him today, our good buddy. A very talented songwriter, a proud Carolina boy, an outdoors man, and an all around great dude. It's Mr. Andy Austin. Andy, how you doing buddy? Doing
Speaker 3 00:03:04 Well, man. I appreciate y'all having me here today, dude.
Speaker 1 00:03:06 We appreciate you coming. You're a busy guy. You had a lot of news break. What was that last week? Two weeks ago? It
Speaker 3 00:03:11 Was last week.
Speaker 1 00:03:12 Last week. You're happy to finally have it out there.
Speaker 3 00:03:14 I am, man. It's uh, it's relief. I mean, just, you know, step in the right direction and I feel like, so,
Speaker 1 00:03:20 So the full, so it's with King Song. Correct. Which is a group that comes with Roar Management, correct?
Speaker 3 00:03:25 It does. Um, Bradley Collins, who, uh, he's been at BMI for forever. Um, it's Bradley Bradley, uh, ward Gunther with Whiskey Jam and Rh O'Nan with Roar Management.
Speaker 1 00:03:37 So that, that's a big, that's a big deal. And you're, you're very, you're very humble and cool about it right now, but like, that's, that's a big deal. What was that like when you first found out about that and started talking like, cuz that's the dream for when somebody comes to this town to get a deal, whether it's publishing or artist development, you got 'em both. Like how does that Yeah. Go
Speaker 3 00:03:54 For you? I mean, I'm extremely, extremely grateful for, you know, every opportunity that I've gotten and, and everything. Um, but you know, from the time I moved here, I went to Whiskey Jam and I saw Ward, you know, and, and really wanted to get to know him. And, and once we met we were just, I mean, he just seemed like an all around great great guy. And then, you know, just one thing led to another. We started writing together and he really liked my stuff. Kind of vice versa, you know, and, and you know, one thing led to another and then it's, it's come to this and I'm excited for the, you know, what it has in store.
Speaker 1 00:04:27 Yeah. Now something else to get excited about. We're gonna talk plenty about music while we're doing this. <laugh> you are a guy that very much enjoys shooting stuff, enjoys shooting turkeys, particularly around this time of year. Yeah. And we didn't get to see, I mean, we would see a whole lot, like at work when you'd come in to play some gigs and whatnot. We'd see you around town, but you were busy. You were busy with it being Turkey season.
Speaker 3 00:04:46 Yeah, man. Um, so this was probably one of my longest Turkey seasons I've had this year. We started, uh, me and Buddy Tyler Chambers, who's another songwriter in town. Yeah, he, uh, he's from South Georgia in Douglas. And we went down there and, and hunted in March. I think it was March 23rd was open the weekend. Um, we had two of our buddies from North Carolina come and meet us down there. And we hunted for I think four days and, uh, had some luck. We shot at some, we missed some, we, we did kill one. But, uh, it was a lot of fun. But we started in Georgia, then we went to, uh, come back here. It opened the 30th of March in Tennessee. And you know, it's, this middle Tennessee spot is like a little hidden gem of turkeys. Really. I mean, they are everywhere, man. It doesn't matter north, south, east or west of town. They're everywhere. Well,
Speaker 2 00:05:36 You remember, like, I think it was Dave pulled outta my driveway like a month ago and there was a Turkey in the driveway across the street.
Speaker 1 00:05:42 Yeah, we had, we had turkeys right, right here. Just three miles from downtown.
Speaker 3 00:05:45 I mean, I got friends that live in East Nashville that they're in the yard all the time. They'll send me pictures and everything. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1 00:05:53 Well though, again, I, I don't know a whole lot about hunting coming from New York and I have buddies that hunt and I and all that stuff back home. But Is Turkey your favorite thing to hunt? Cause I know there's a lot of things you can hunt and I know especially down here in uh, in the south, there's a lot that you guys, um, I'm sure you've been on trips. I know you have like an out out, it says you work for an outdoors
Speaker 3 00:06:11 Outfitter. Yeah, an
Speaker 1 00:06:12 Outfitter. So what exactly is that and what, what exactly do you do with
Speaker 3 00:06:16 That? Um, as far as the Turkey question, it's turkey's probably get me more riled up than any other animal that I, I get to hunt. Is it cuz they
Speaker 1 00:06:25 Taste good or what is it?
Speaker 3 00:06:27 Well, it's a mix cuz I mean, it's, it's a, about outsmarting and, you know, outsmarting one of them things, they're just, they get hunted every day of the year. Not just, you know, however long the season is here in Nashville or wherever you're hunting 'em at. They, uh, they just, they're so smart. And then once you get 'em inside of that distance, I mean the whole time they're, they're looking for something that's trying to kill 'em. Yeah. And sometimes they come in and they don't pay you no attention and boom, you know, it's over. But other, I've got busted so many times. I mean, that's why you don't, a lot of people Turkey hunt, not everybody kills turkeys or if they kill one, they kill one. They don't get to, you know, kill three or four cuz they're so smart and you just, you get busted so much and it just takes time and time and time and time of failure. And then, you know, hopefully you outsmart one or two or, or however many you get to get in front of. Yeah. But, um, as far as outfitter, um, in college I wanted to work for an outfitter at like, when I, you know, if I got out, I played baseball in college. Where'd
Speaker 1 00:07:27 You go to
Speaker 3 00:07:28 School? I went to UNC Wilmington. Okay. In North Carolina. Um, I was fortunate enough to play baseball there for four years. And, um, I got a degree in hospitality and tourism management and I was, I mean, direct reflection of owning, operating a outfitter someday. So my senior year I got an, a chance to go up and work for an outfitter in North Dakota. And it was a pheasant and waterfowl outfitter and, um, I mean, it's some of the most fun I've ever had in my life. I mean, it, it is a legit dream job. And you go up there for, you know, a month and a half, two months and you work every day before
Speaker 1 00:08:09 What was going to North Dakota. Like, that is a long way away from North Carolina,
Speaker 3 00:08:13 Especially
Speaker 1 00:08:14 In Wilmington. Mean
Speaker 3 00:08:15 You, you see so much of it, you know, on, on YouTube or you know, duck hunting in general, North Dakota, all the, all the birds and everything. And it truly is, I mean, it's remarkable to see at how many birds are in that flyway and they just migrate down. They start in Canada and you can just watch the weather, the, you know, if it's a snow storm, if it's heavy wind, anything, you can just see, you know, a few thousand ducks will show up or they'll, they'll be where you're hunting at that evening before and the next day they're completely gone because the weather that rolled through overnight, it's just, it's just crazy to see, you know, mother nature out there opposed to here. Cuz we don't really get, we see, you know, a few hundred ducks and you're like, wow, that's a lot. I mean, I've seen tens and thousands of 'em at one time together. Wow. But, um, it's really neat to see and you know, it's just, it's a great opportunity. I I love it out there. It's just, you know, you can't explain it to somebody that hadn't seen it. Yeah. You have to go out and speak for
Speaker 2 00:09:15 Yourself. Yeah. I know from South Alabama going duck hunting and all, you know, you see 20, 30 ducks at a time and that's a big group of 'em. You know, we don't, we don't get the lot of the Yeah. Big groups of 'em down on the Bayou <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:09:27 That, that's cool, man. Now, so you went, so you went to college route, you got your degree, you were a freaking student athlete doing all that. How do you get into the songwriting thing? How, what, what makes you, you, you go through all this stuff with the degree, um, what brings you to Nashville?
Speaker 3 00:09:40 As, as far as like, when I started with music or, you know, wanting to play guitar and sing, um, I was in high school and I'd always sang growing up, you know, I'm singing church and stuff with my, my family and just in high school I was at a party and a dude was playing the guitar and I was like, that is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. And he, I mean, he wasn't singing original music or anything. Yeah. But like, you'd have all these people and then somebody, you know, gets a guitar and starts playing and everybody shuts up and listens and you're just like, you know, this is, this is a cool moment right here. Yeah. So I got a guitar, my, it was my freshman year of college or my senior year of high school that summer before my freshman year of college.
Speaker 3 00:10:22 Got this little cheap guitar and started, you know, playing here and there and looking on YouTube and, and learning these songs and chords and all this stuff. And just, I mean, taught myself how to play over videos on YouTube and, you know, I'd give anything to go back and start when I was five or six years old. I mean, I envy those guys every single day that can just pick a guitar up and, and rip on it. Cuz that's what they did when they were little. They didn't play video games and played a guitar. But, um, you know, in college I started playing and I, uh, one Tuesday afternoon, I had some buddies they were going to place called Katie's Bar and Grill that night. And they were like, yeah, man, they got like open karaoke. A guy plays guitar, you oughta come up there and play, play a song, whatever.
Speaker 3 00:11:08 And, uh, I think I was doing homework or something and, and they were up there and they're like, yeah. He said, come up here, bring your guitar. So I got my stuff done and I probably didn't get it done actually, <laugh> just kind of, you know, okay. Quit it. Yeah. Put it off. And we went up there and I think we got home about 2 30, 3 o'clock in the morning and we had played all night. Man, it was so much fun. And, uh, just from there I got had a love for it and didn't really write that much. Um, I started writing in college a little bit, but you were just so busy trying to learn songs, you know, for people to sing and
Speaker 1 00:11:39 Play baseball. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:11:40 <laugh>. But see
Speaker 1 00:11:41 Athlete thing. What position did you play?
Speaker 3 00:11:43 I was a corner infielder. Um, I played first base and outfield through, through, you know, for U N C W a lot. And then Nice. I was in summer, I'd play first, third or, you know, wherever they needed me. Really?
Speaker 1 00:11:55 No, I'm, I'm guessing you're a Braves fan. Huge Braves fan. Okay. All right. I'm the Yankees fan, so I've learned,
Speaker 2 00:12:00 We, we don't, I
Speaker 1 00:12:01 Don't, I don't, I don't, I don't mind the Braves at all. Like, there's nothing wrong with 'em. It's better than the Mets or the Phillies or the damn Red Sox. But so baseball, I
Speaker 2 00:12:09 Mean, the Red Sox are better than the Yankees, so
Speaker 1 00:12:11 Fuck the red song. But over this, say this every damn episode, man, come on. Leave
Speaker 2 00:12:15 Me alone. It's baseball season, man. The rivalry is
Speaker 1 00:12:18 Real. Oh, absolutely. So did you ever think about doing Baseball Pro? Like was that in your mindset or was it just like, Hey, I like doing this, if there's an opportunity to continue? Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:12:26 As far as you know, any baseball player's gonna tell you they're, they're draw. I mean, their dream is to be a major league baseball player and you know, when I was young it was, it was super realistic. I felt, you know, I worked my butt off to get where I was at and it was just every weekend it felt like it was baseball and through the week that's all you wanted to do. You know, you wanted to get better or you wanted to be better. Yeah. Then whoever you were playing against and, you know, I played and played and played and played and I loved it. I wouldn't take it back, you know, a day. I mean baseball's, you know, one of my first loves ever. Yeah. And, uh, I just gotta college and, you know, I was, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I was some college stud and freaking hit 400 and, you know, home runs every weekend. Yeah. But I mean, I worked hard and I played when I could and you know, tried to help the team whenever I could and had a great time. We were super successful and uh, and I loved it, but probably about midway through college I was, you know, I really love music, I love playing and you know, I saw a future with that or, you know, being a hunting guide just cuz hunting brought me so much joy.
Speaker 1 00:13:35 Yeah, it's cool too. The, so there's a lot of guys, I mean, you, you've, I'm sure you've seen the Bone Collector album from the, the Red Akins and Dallas Davidson and all those guys saw hunting and country music goes together. But a lot of people don't know baseball and country music. There's a lot of guys that are out there doing, doing the music thing that were college players. Some guys like Brett Young that had the opportunity to go pro. That's, that's a cool dynamic that you're able to bring both those kind of things into it that you were able, you were doing all of it.
Speaker 3 00:14:02 Yeah. They, uh, a lot of you have baseball and, and hunting and, and baseball and, and music. It's all intertwined somehow. Yeah. I mean you got, I think Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean are with Buck Commander and all
Speaker 1 00:14:14 That. Yeah. They go go down with the Robertsons and do that. Which, which is a hunting guy. So I got I know, I know nothing about that <laugh>. I just bought my first gun. So with, with that, with a Duck Dynasty thing, Uhhuh <affirmative>, when you're watching that, is that like actual like hunting stuff? Like do they, do those guys know what they're doing?
Speaker 3 00:14:30 Oh yeah. So, I mean, they're exceptionally well Hunters before Duck Dynasty hit it was, or not duck. Yeah, it was Duck Commander. Yeah. And they had videos and different stuff, but yeah, they were, they were hunters. It wasn't, I didn't feel like they were doing it to be cool like some people out there, which I'm not Yeah. Ragging anybody if you're hunting outdoors. Even though that's, I can't hate you for it. I, you know, I want everybody to do that, to experience that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, those guys were hunting for food and I mean, they were good. They were freaking heck of a hunters I've learned, I've learned some stuff from sitting and watching them and, and listening to 'em talk about ducks and everything.
Speaker 1 00:15:09 Yeah. And I've seen the one video, I think it's Luke Bryant taking his first, um, taking his first deal with a bow or something like that and just seeing that feeling. Exactly. That's gotta be awesome <laugh>, something like that. But there's gotta be that fe like that feeling of when you get, when you get that kill, like I've heard you get, um, like some people like get like a shake or something like
Speaker 3 00:15:29 Yeah. You have, there's a thing called buck fever.
Speaker 1 00:15:31 Buck fever. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:15:32 Um, which I'm, you know, I, I love deer hunting for a good, good while. Um, I really love hunting with dogs. That's kind of one of my number one passions. I grew up rabbit hunting and though rabbit hunting, you don't really get that, that, you know, freak out, can't breathe. Thing that happens with like a, I think deer any like type of big game animal gives you that, that excitement. I mean, coyotes and, and stuff will get you going too, but like that Turkey deer, I've never got to elk hunt, but just talking to people that have, you know, that experience, turkeys get me that, that type of like, it's almost like your stomach flips upside down and you can, you know, you can barely breathe. Yeah. Cause you're so excited. Um, ducks do the same thing for me. Ducks and geese. I mean, if I get, you know, four or 500 ducks come in and land right at my feet, 10, 15 yards away, I'll be, I'll be a nervous wreck, man. <laugh>, I mean, I can't even hardly talk. I'm going by high fiving everybody in the blinds and, and screaming and yelling, you know. But, um, but yeah, that and turkey's, that's what, that's what really gets me going. So I'm, you know, firsthand.
Speaker 1 00:16:42 So Deere's the biggest thing you've gotten to take, um, as far, or have you been out like a bear hunter? An alligator.
Speaker 3 00:16:47 I got a bear hunt with my dad growing up. Um, we hog hunted a little bit and, um, he shot a bear. I wanna say the bear was maybe 3 10, 3 15 Okay. Range. And then he shot a hog that was probably like 260 pounds. Shit. It was a monster. Yeah. But, um,
Speaker 1 00:17:05 You gotta be careful hot hunting. Right. They'll, they'll, they'll go after you. Like they're known to, they're known to give you a fight, right?
Speaker 3 00:17:10 Yeah. They're, they're mean man. They're main booger. Especially
Speaker 2 00:17:13 If you're down on the swamp and you step on one. That's never fun. You stepped
Speaker 1 00:17:16 On one. What was, I
Speaker 2 00:17:18 Haven't stepped on one, but I've had a buddy step on one. That's not a fun experience. I was out with him and that's, uh, that's a scary moment. But
Speaker 3 00:17:24 Terry dude, there's one, there's like a recent post in the last week where a guy got ripped like across the face. Yeah. And it like cut his nose right here. Oh geez.
Speaker 2 00:17:32 Like with Arkansas, we didn't have the Razorbacks where we're from, but like Razorbacks, what they're known to doing is they sit in the mud and they come up and they like take their back and go in between your legs and they'll cut your arteries open. And, you know, that's why you just gotta be super careful about 'em. Especially with those tusk and all man, like they'll rip you a new one.
Speaker 1 00:17:48 They'll up. Oh man. Oh yeah. Well maybe one day we'll get to, we'll get to you. Well I'll get to, I'll get to go hog hunting and do some of that stuff. Now back to the, back to the music stuff. So you moved to town in March you said, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> in March of this year. When was like your first, what was your first impression of Nashville being a small town Carolina guy?
Speaker 3 00:18:07 Um, you get here and you don't know anybody. I think I had maybe one or two friends and uh, it's, it's really, I mean, when you're, you know, 23, 24, 25, you move away from home. I mean, I understood how to like, live by myself cuz I was in college and stuff. Yeah. So, I mean, but you know, going to college, you had a baseball team, so you already had buddies kind of, and you know, you move out here and you don't know anybody, you gotta go listen to their music and kind of take, you know, meeting them, shaking their hand, ringing a beer with them and you know, you just kind of fill out who you want to. You try to pick people that, that like the same things you like that you know, valuable, the same things and see if, you know, get a right with them.
Speaker 3 00:18:58 Write one or two three times with 'em. If you, if it doesn't mesh, then you know, just put that one in your book, you know, drink a beer with 'em. But they don't mean you have to write a song with them. Yeah. Um, but you kind of pick out who wants to make the same music as you kind of, or you know, who's a good fit, who's a good writer. Even if it's a, a different genre that you're used to writing or anything. It's still good for you as a writer to, you know, go in and write a song with somebody.
Speaker 1 00:19:23 Hey, your first co-write experience in Nashville. What was that like?
Speaker 3 00:19:26 Uh, who did I write
Speaker 1 00:19:27 With? Because I know, I know you're, you're writing, you're doing this thing professionally now, like you're writing a lot. I'm sure they kind of, sometimes you get meh together. Um,
Speaker 3 00:19:36 I was, I was writing, but it wasn't good music. I didn't feel like when I first got here. Um, that was one of the main reasons I wanted to move out here. You know, I didn't feel like I was growing any as a musician or a songwriter back in Wilmington. And I'd rather move out here and, you know, learn firsthand, even if I had to fail for year two to, uh, to learn how to write songs the right way at least. Or, you know, see how people that were making a living doing it, were writing them. And, um, so I moved out here. And who was one of the first people
Speaker 1 00:20:09 Or, or even one of your first buddies that you, you're having a beer after Whiskey Jam over at Losers, a red door or one that, that stretch and you're like, you sit down and then you end up writing with him.
Speaker 3 00:20:19 Yeah. Um, I met Matt Daniels at a, it was at a revival I think one night and Ryan Nelson was there.
Speaker 1 00:20:27 Oh, good old Ryan. That means you were having a good time.
Speaker 3 00:20:29 Oh yeah, we were loved that guy. Um, but yeah, I met them and I'd heard Ryan play a few times and Matt, and, you know, they seemed like great guys and they are, I mean, they're still friends to this day with me. But, um, we went over to Matt's and he was living it with Ryan Nelson at the time, and Ryan had, he had a right and it might have got canceled or he was open that day and we sat down and, and uh, we wrote a song called Good and Cold. It was about, you know, drinking beer or something and it was just kinda like a little swampy tune. And I remember after that I was like, holy crap, that is, that's how it happens. Just like that. I mean, I like the song. I'm not saying it was a bad song or anything. Yeah. I don't, I need to learn to play it better. That's usually why I don't play it cuz I can't play the guitar lick on it. But I mean, just getting together three kind of strangers, we barely knew each other and we come up with a song, you know, three, three and a half minutes of, of stuff that we just, you know, put together through together. And it was, that was really neat, neat for me.
Speaker 1 00:21:31 Yeah. Now you're, now I'm sure you've got like a circle of, of like a crew that you're, you're writing with pretty regularly. Like, like I'll see like some of our buddies that'll, that'll get together. Like we'll just be hanging out, hanging out, screwing around at the, at the apartment and then all of a sudden the guitars will come out and they'll just start writing. Like who would you say is like your, your go-to people
Speaker 3 00:21:49 With,
Speaker 1 00:21:49 With the right and stuff? Um, my little Your little circle
Speaker 3 00:21:52 Crew. Yeah. My, I hang out with Chad Bishop and Tyler Chambers a lot, a whole lot. We, uh, I heck I hang out at their house just as much as I hang out at mine, if not more <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:22:04 Sound familiar? Tyler <laugh>. Oh
Speaker 3 00:22:05 Yeah. But, um, yeah, those two guys, Dylan Marlow lives over there as well. We hang out a good bit. Um, ward, I mean, Ward's a heck of a writer too. How
Speaker 1 00:22:17 Did, how'd you meet? How'd you first get to like, meet Ward? Cuz you guys, he's that's an important guy in this town. Yeah. I call him the king of Midtown. Yes. In terms of just original music. Like he's, he's the biggest champion of it with supporting people and he's doing his own thing and such a cool dude. And we get, I get to see him when he's not running around because he's always running around and busy. How'd you get to develop
Speaker 3 00:22:39 A friendship? Um, so I moved to town. I had a, a mutual friend and, you know, I'm, I'm not name dropping or anything. Yeah. Those, but, you know, she introduced us and we hit it off. I think I'd played, you know, second or third week I was in town. I played Whiskey Jam and I didn't have enough songs to play. You're supposed to play three, you know, three originals. And I, I had one song that I had written that I want wanna play in front of, you know, a crowd. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:23:07 And especially that crowd, that whiskey jam crowd. Yeah. I just, people that know good music
Speaker 3 00:23:11 And, um, he's like, yeah man, can you play three songs? Blah, blah, blah. And I was like, man, I can probably play two. I was like, I know, I'm sorry. I was like, I appreciate you giving me this opportunity, but like I can just, I can probably play two. He's like, that's fine. You know, just do two songs. That's cool. So I have to write a song before Whiskey Jam in a week <laugh> to get, and I mean, yeah. And not just like write a, you know, little nursery rhyme, like write a song that you, you'd want people to like, you know, categorize you with. Yeah. And, um, cat, I forget. Yeah. I mean, wrote a song that week. Now I, I wouldn't play it now if you paid me money, but <laugh>. But, um, played it and, and you know, after that Ward, you know, we exchanged numbers at Whiskey Jam and, and I come over and wrote with him over at the old office, uh, I think it's off of Wedgewood Avenue right there off 65. But, you know, we wrote, we just kind of were buddies since then and it just kind of kept on one thing led to another and we wrote a little bit more and, you know, we got some rights with, with some other great songwriters in town and started writing songs that we really liked. So we just kind of ran with it.
Speaker 1 00:24:26 Okay. That, that's, that's awesome. Because my first impression of like the whiskey jam thing, I went for the first time when I came to visit our buddy Dave in September. Which Dave and other guy that you had. Oh yeah. How did you and Dave Ring?
Speaker 3 00:24:39 Um, me and Dave met, I was playing, uh, some gigs at Whiskey Row and he was a security guy there and we just kind of hit it off. I mean, he played, I played and, and, um, he'd come over to the house and we'd hang out, you know, sometimes we'd get cookout at two in the morning and whatnot. Sounds
Speaker 1 00:24:57 About right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:24:58 Yeah. And, um, he was over at the house and that's actually how, um, Griffin Elmore the guy that manages over at Whiskey Row.
Speaker 1 00:25:05 Oh, you know Griffin from back from back home? Well,
Speaker 3 00:25:08 Yeah, we went to high school together.
Speaker 1 00:25:09 No shit. Oh,
Speaker 3 00:25:10 We, we moved to Nashville together. Really? And yeah, so we lived in the same apartment and Dave was over and Griffin was looking for a job. I was like, Hey man, you know, he works downtown. He was thinking about being a security guard. So Dave got him an interview or whatever and he went in and he's like, man, I think I might try to manage down there with him and, and whatnot. So that's kind of, that's how all that intermingled together.
Speaker 1 00:25:29 No shit. I had no idea. Yeah. And I've been here for, I've been working there for six months. I have no idea. Holy shit. That's awesome dude. So, no freaking Wait. Now I gotta ask, so I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit. So Dave, as we know, sports a real nice, like 70, I call it the seventies porn stash. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the Ron Swanson. Yeah. Your buddy John that you played with, with Brad Whiskey Row. He's got a muscle. Johnny Wood. Johnny Wood. What mustache do you like better?
Speaker 3 00:25:53 Uh, I don't know, man, because those, those
Speaker 1 00:25:55 Are two, those are two strong mustaches. It's John, I think gets, gets, pulls it off better, but he's always wearing the lid. He's always got the cowboy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:26:02 So John and I met because I worked at Boot Barn with John for a while.
Speaker 1 00:26:05 Oh, John worked at Boot Barn? Yeah. Yeah. No, he looks like the guy that would work at Boot Barn
Speaker 2 00:26:10 Mustache. No, John and I would both work at Boot Barn and just talk to each other about how much we hated a life there.
Speaker 1 00:26:15 Oh man. <laugh>. Yeah. Oh man. So how'd you meet Johnny?
Speaker 3 00:26:20 Uh, I met John at, where did we meet? I think at Winters or Losers. That's where everybody, about where everybody met. That's where's mbr
Speaker 1 00:26:29 That's where I met you. It was
Speaker 3 00:26:31 10 Roof or you know, somewhere on Demian or Division, um, somewhere there. And I think the first time I heard about him, he had, he recorded a Eagles cover on Instagram. And I, I mean, I love the Eagles man. I think that's the best band that's ever Yeah. Talent wise. And I just, I mean, I'll take that to my grave. I'll argue with anybody that Allman Brothers. I love the Allman Brothers. Not saying that other groups weren't amazing either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just the Eagles to me that I love that, that type of music, you know, that's just more my speed.
Speaker 1 00:27:04 Yeah. So for you with musical influences then, you were saying that you sing in church, which I'm learning what you sang and you would sing in church and stuff, which I've learned is very common down here. That's not a thing for, for me back home and stuff. What kind of influences were you?
Speaker 3 00:27:16 Um, I would say, you know, Gaither vocal band. Uh, Michael English was, was a huge, huge name growing up, you know, listening to his music. He's one of the best gospel singers I think in, you know. Yeah. David Phelps too. He was with the, the vocal band. Um, Jason Krab grew up listening to the Hensons. Um, there's, I mean, there's a number of, you know, the Martin's, the Isaac's, all those old, they're not really old, but
Speaker 1 00:27:49 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:27:51 All of the, uh, <laugh>, the
Speaker 1 00:27:53 Pod dog, the pod dogs over there. We got, we got a lot of dogs. We're, we're getting really, really country. It's talking about gospel. That's cool. Um, so with the gospel stuff, so you were also saying you like the Eagles a lot. You really like Yep.
Speaker 3 00:28:04 Love the Eagles. Um, Allman Brothers, uh, a lot of the old stuff, and I mean, I don't say that, you know, to, to sound cooler or anything, but like, I, I grew up genuinely listening to like, all that old, you know, Merle Haggard, George Jones, all that, you know, like old Willie Nelson, like when before Willie Nelson was like, you know, hippie Yeah. All that, that stuff. Which I mean, I still like Willie Nelson.
Speaker 1 00:28:33 Oh, amen. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:28:35 But like old, old Hank Jr. Like before Hank Jr. Was, you know, doing beer commercials and all that Yeah. When he was like dressing in a suit and going and playing gigs. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I just loved all that old stuff, man. Um, you know, Ronnie Milsap, one of my favorite artists from back in the day, uh, gene Watson, you know, those dudes were so super talented. You can hear it. I mean, when you, when you hear those old recordings and stuff of, of them singing and they're just, it's just them and a mic and you can hear their breaths and all that. It's just shows how talented those guys were. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:09 Yeah. Now for you as a writing now in, in 2019, obviously the country landscape pretty different from what it, when Ronnie Millsap and those guys were doing, what they were doing, does, growing up with that stuff and having that appreciation inspire you to, to write like damn country songs, like, because I've heard like some of your original stuff and seeing you play acoustically a lot. Like, does that inspire you to want to keep that country to country tradition going?
Speaker 3 00:29:35 Yeah. I mean, that's such a, I wouldn't say it's a tough question. It's just, I mean, that's a, that's a, a big issue in country today.
Speaker 1 00:29:42 Yeah. Right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:29:43 You have, you have so many people on different sides of it. I mean, it's, you don't really, it's categorized as country and then, you know, people talk bad about it, but I mean, people, they're just making music. Yeah. I mean, if you don't like them, you have 500 different options, you know, go like somebody else. Don't hate one person. Yeah. You know, go like five people, don't hate 10 people. Yeah. But, um, I mean, yeah, I, I just really, I like to make good music. I like to make stuff, you know, represents me what I want to, what I wanna tell people and, and everything. And, you know, just, just great music that has a good message and, you know, it makes you feel good.
Speaker 1 00:30:24 Yeah. Now, if you open up your Spotify playlist or Apple Music or whatever, you're, let's be honest, everybody's streaming music nowadays. What's your, what are your, what are your, what do you got on there right now? What's your Um, it's a Monday and I'm, I'm driving in the truck and I got old Smokey sitting right next to me. What do you got?
Speaker 3 00:30:40 Um, let's see here. An old album by Brad Paisley, part two. It's got some jams on it. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:30:47 Yeah. I, I love some, some early Brad Paisley.
Speaker 3 00:30:50 Yeah. I mean, I'm a big Chris Stapleton fan, but heck, who isn't. Yeah. You know, like playing downtown, I, you know, try to look up instead of playing the same old same songs that everybody hears in every bar, go back and like, dig into the two thousands and like, even just the top 20 songs of every year, you can go back and find songs that you're like, holy crap, I forgot this song existed. Yeah. And it, it just, you know, every, every word, everything. It was just that powerful of a song back then. Cuz we listened to the radio whenever you got in the car with your mom and dad and went somewhere, everybody listened to the radio. You didn't have an iPod that you plugged into. And we were just that right. Generation before like the iPods and all that, which we had 'em like MP3 players and stuff growing up. But I had three, I had two older sisters, you know, and younger sister. They had MP3 players and everything. I was outside in the yard shooting birds with a BB gun. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:31:42 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:31:43 But you al you listened to to CDs, you know, when the CD come out, I wanna say they dropped CDs on Tuesday nights. Yep, yep. Um, back home I can remember, you know, through middle school and stuff. I would, they would, they would set 'em out. I would usually get 'em from Walmart. Yeah. They would set 'em out on the shelves at 2:00 AM That's when they would, they would restock the CDs for the, like the upcoming day. So Tuesday morning at 2:00 AM I would grab one out of the box that they were setting out every year. I would do, I mean I've Brad Paisley records, um, trying to think who else back then.
Speaker 1 00:32:20 Do you remember that one cd you were like really pumped? You were like, this is finally out. I'm gonna go grab it. Um,
Speaker 3 00:32:27 What's one, remember like when, when Brett Elders, I remember I got Brett Elder's record one time and it was just like every song was just boom, boom, boom,
Speaker 1 00:32:35 Boom, boom. Just yeah.
Speaker 3 00:32:37 Awesome. Yeah. Um, there's a David Nail record that I remember listening to and knowing every single word to it and Guitar Lick and it was like the Sound of A Million Dreams. Yeah. I think that was the, the album. But, um, just, I don't know, you everybody had those old books, like the little CD carrier things and it would have 50 CDs in it in the truck and you would just flip through.
Speaker 1 00:33:02 That was my favorite. And my dad's giving me two things that like hand me downs that I loved his head of golf clubs, which I'm very grateful for. And his CD case that had everything in it from like old stuff. That was the first time I heard, one of the first times I heard Garth Brooks was being with my dad, like, like, because it was just, I pulled it outta the CD thing and he's like, oh, I haven't listened to this in years, but I'm like, oh, let's pull it out and see it. And you would, you could fit a lot of them in there, like some of the bigger ones.
Speaker 3 00:33:25 Yeah. You put two or three, four in the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:33:28 One of my, uh, one of my favorite things to do now is go out to McKay's and buy like one, $2 CDs that are like no names and just see like what it is. Yeah. I've got probably a hundred of those sitting somewhere where I'm just like, it was 95 cents, why not? You know? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:33:46 Yeah. No, the and that's what, what the streaming thing, it makes it so much easier to find, to find out what's like to hear. I think the streaming helps new music. I don't think it helps out you guys as much with the guys that are putting out the music kind of thing. Right. If that makes sense. Cause I know record sales were a huge thing. And we had Steve on a couple weeks ago, Tyler, and he was talking about, we had a guy Steve Groberg on a couple or last week actually. And um, he had a cut on Tim McGraw record back in the nineties. So for him that he gets, with the way that album sales worked back then, that was like a huge deal. Now there's not as many people buying the full length album. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:34:23 Makes you more writing for a hit than writing for a cut. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:34:26 I mean, it's, it's true. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1 00:34:29 Do you, do you feel that, do you feel that with the, with the now it's, we're in such like a single world where like you, you're really trying to write that single, because there isn't as much love coming to getting a, a cut that is like, say tracked seven or eight on a record where it's not being sent out to radio or featured on one of the big Spotify playlists.
Speaker 3 00:34:49 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. When you, some people sit down and they say, you know, Chris Stapleton has a video where he makes a joke. He's like, you know, he was sitting down with Ronnie Bowman maybe, or you know, somebody and he said, you know, Hey, let's write a hit today. And, uh, I mean, you don't really sit down and say, Hey, you know, let's write a hit or Yeah. Or whatnot. But you just, you know, try to get a good song. There's no, I mean, people say they, you know, there's a formula to, to all of it or anything. Most of the guys that get good cuts, they just try to go in and write a good song every day. And, you know, the end of the month if they got two that they love or if they got five that they love, you know, as long as they're writing good music that they think, you know, has a chance to do whatever they want it to do, you know, know if they just want a good song that for them, then as long as it's, you know, a good song to them.
Speaker 1 00:35:43 Yeah. Now for Yeah. Now for you with, when you're going in to one of those rooms, something that happens, it seems like it hap it sounds like it happens a decent amount writer's block. What's your cure for that? Uh,
Speaker 3 00:35:55 I mean, heck, everybody's had it. Yeah. Even if they don't say they've had it, they've had it. Yeah. Um, you just get up, walk around, you know, go outside. Um, when we were right over at Ryan's house, he's got a little creek behind his house. We'll go down there and, you know, whatever. Ryan usually walks in the creek barefooted, <laugh> and
Speaker 1 00:36:12 Well sounds
Speaker 3 00:36:12 About throw rocks in the creek or whatever and throw, throw football in the yard. He's got a football he likes, but you know, just get up, move around, breathe. I don't know, get something to eat. That's one of the number one things that's easy to do. Hey, let's go get a sandwich. You know, but just, you know, don't really sit there and, and lock down and just, you know, keep yourself in the same spot, same position, you know, get up, walk around, get your blood pumping a little bit. You know, go through, look, look through old pictures or something, you know, if you're having a bad I bad day of, you know, just getting ideas as far as, you know, first verse or however you want it to work. You know, go through your pictures, look at 'em. You might think of something just seeing, you know, it could be anything. Never know. I mean that's the thing with, you know, writing a song. There's no right and wrong of it if it hadn't been created yet. So it can go in any direction you want it to.
Speaker 1 00:37:11 Yeah. Has there been a moment where you've gone in a room and then walked out afterwards and you're like, holy shit. Like I can't believe that that just came out of me and so-and-so, and um, so-and-so hanging out together.
Speaker 3 00:37:22 I wrote a song with Casey Tyle about a month ago that it's probably one of my favorite ones that I've been a part of. And it was just, it was easy. I mean, you have days where you write for, you know, four hours and it's just like, every line is just like you're chiseling it in and then other days it's like, you know, you're texting it on your phone and it just one or the other. You're like, yeah, that works. That works. That's good. Yep. And you know, that was one of those days where it was like, didn't take us too long, get one line to the next and it just kind of flowed. We talked about it. Um, but some things, you know, that help me and you were talking about writer's block, if you keep talking, even if it's stupid, like, you know, you can't be like, man, I'm gonna say something and they're not gonna like me anymore.
Speaker 3 00:38:10 They're gonna think I'm an idiot. Or you know, just say, say the craziest, stupidest crap and you can still get stuff. Cuz a lot of times, as soon as you can get everybody's mind off of the, and this is from my experiences, as soon as you can get everybody's mind off of the song where they're just talking and they're, you know, they're thinking about their story, they're telling you, that's where you'll get something and it'll, they'll say something and you got two, two other people. Or you know, if you're writing one on one, you know that other person. But they'll pick something out of what you're saying just because you know, that creative process that a lot of song singer songwriters have to have, you know, they'll hear something and nothing. And you know, you go from there
Speaker 1 00:38:51 Something and nothing that might be a, that might be a wine. Right. You
Speaker 3 00:38:54 Look right there.
Speaker 1 00:38:55 See, it's coming. It's, it's, it's happening now. So you were saying about mix, about playing different things when you're doing those sets on Broadway. Um, and you play stuff that not everybody else is playing. My favorite song that we get to hear you do is when you play some Tyler Childers. Oh yeah. <laugh>. When you bri when you break out, when you break, when you break out Tyler Childers. And, um, and people are kind of looking around and they, and some of 'em probably think that this is you playing an original just cuz the way, the way that the Tyler, the way that it's marketed, I love Tyler Childers and Tyler Chiller, huge name
Speaker 2 00:39:25 Sells out. He's one of my favorite for sure.
Speaker 1 00:39:26 Sells out, sells out wherever he goes. And he is, he's doing his thing. But like, that's not something that you hear on Broadway Yeah. At
Speaker 3 00:39:33 All. Um, that's, that's true. I mean, usually if it's, if it's good song, you know, oh it's, people aren't gonna know. Yeah. You know, and I'm not talking bad about Broadway, but you know, a lot of those people are just sitting there eating and drinking. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:39:49 They're not, they're not,
Speaker 3 00:39:49 They're not really picking apart your song or
Speaker 1 00:39:51 Yeah. If you want the original music, it's Midtown is where you gotta go. Yeah. You got, you gotta go to.
Speaker 3 00:39:56 And there's certain venues I will say, you know, there's certain venues that they really, they'll listen to the song better than others will. Yeah. And that's just, I mean, it's the kind of the crowd. Yeah. Most of the time. I mean, tourist, they're here for the experience. They're not really here to, you know, listen to,
Speaker 2 00:40:13 I'll say this, um, I've noticed a lot of times on the first floor at Wishy Road that if you got somebody playing up at the rhyming, the closer it gets to that show, the more that rhyming crowd comes in and they listen. They listen. Yeah. And they, they care. Like, you know, last year whenever Isabel did his stint, like everybody was saying Isabel Prine, uh, Childers Sturgill Simpson, like that was the request that were coming in. You actually got to see a lot of guys go. Uh, I don't, I don't know any of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:40:45 What's for you, who's your favorite of that group? Cause you've got, because there's, there's that wave of, I don't know, that wave of that new traditional style mix with the Americana. I say new because it's not the old, it's not the old traditional guys. They're newer guys on the block, but the, that traditional style. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:41:01 They're just the, I mean, the thing about those guys is they're their self.
Speaker 1 00:41:04 They don't care what people are thinking.
Speaker 3 00:41:06 Right. But that's why they're, I think their music is so personable and understandable and, you know, so many people love it. I mean, it ain't like they're, they're just, they're a hidden gem. Like there's a lot of people that stream their music, that buy their music, that go to their shows. I mean, it doesn't have to be publicly known on the news or on the radio. I mean, they're, they're getting their fans and they're, you know, they're great artists, but they're their self. Yeah. And they can be their self. They don't have anybody telling 'em what to do. And I mean, I think that's why they're successful. Cody Johnson is doing,
Speaker 1 00:41:41 Oh, co Joe, I was at that Ryman show. Yeah. Um, over the, uh, couple, a couple weeks ago, all the days blending the one down here, <laugh>. Um, but that, it's last weekend, bud. It wasn't last weekend. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:41:53 It was explain
Speaker 1 00:41:55 That was last, last weekend. And that was one of the coolest things because he come into town, everybody told them, Texas isn't gonna work in Nashville. Texas isn't gonna sell, Texas is only as big as Texas. And now you look at where that red dirt style's going. Oh yeah. And Kojo is selling out venues across the country and he's going out on big tours and he's getting that, that airplane and stuff. And a guy, a guy like Cody, what's your favorite Kojo song? I know there's a lot to choose from.
Speaker 3 00:42:23 That's tough, man. He, uh, probably my favorite Cody Johnson song Monday morning. Merle's Pretty, yeah. Hard to beat, dude. I mean, that's just, that's a Dagone good song. Um, I like that one also, uh, half a song. Yeah, that's, that's a good, that's a good one too. But I mean, he's got, he know he's got so many good songs. It ain't like he's got one on every record. He's got five or six that are just
Speaker 1 00:42:49 Awesome. Yeah. He just bumps 'em out and just does, does his thing in his live show. He kept it a Cody Johnson show, like what you'd see at an amphitheater or, or at a festival. He did that in the Ryman, like he was flying around and still cussing and doing his thing and everything that he does at the live at the big venues he was doing in that, that little special place, which Theri, that was my first time going to the Ryman. Yeah. Dave's first time going too. And that was just such a cool special, isn't it? Yeah. Have you, have you gotten to go at all see initial?
Speaker 3 00:43:18 Yeah. Last, last time I was there I went and seen, uh, Casey Gras. Ooh. Back, uh, I think the 1st of March. Tyler
Speaker 1 00:43:25 Just got excited.
Speaker 3 00:43:26 <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:43:28 I wanted to go to that one real
Speaker 3 00:43:29 Bad. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was really neat, man. She just, she's an entertainer of the year this this year. And just her songs, I mean, she's, she's her
Speaker 1 00:43:38 Authentic, again, another person where it's that authentic, like it's really Yeah. You, it's not coming from So now, so now that's something I gotta ask with that. So all those guys, they're singing their own songs that they're writing and stuff. Now, for you as, as a guy that's doing the writing thing, but also just signed that on is an artist development deal, what's that process like for you? Where, where, like, if, if a song gets pitched to you or because there's, there's people that are, that are like vocalists that aren't as big on the writing side, right? Like, like Aldean. Like Aldean's Not, hasn't, hasn't sang an original Alde song. I mean, I know he's a decent writer, but like, there's those big names like that or even just other people that are, that aren't singing their own songs. For you as a guy that writes great songs, is is that something down the road? What do you
Speaker 3 00:44:24 Think about it? Yeah, I mean, I, I would always be open to an outside song. Okay. You know, A good song is a good song. Okay. I don't have to, not because I wrote it or anything. Well, I hold it above another song. I mean, there's, you know, there's incredible, incredible writers.
Speaker 1 00:44:37 And has it happened for you where a song that you've written or been a part of has being sung by somebody else? And how is that feeling?
Speaker 3 00:44:43 Um, no, not yet. Okay. Hopefully, um, <laugh>. But, um, we just did a, uh, we just did a demo on that song I was telling you about with, uh, Casey Tyndall and, um,
Speaker 1 00:44:55 Who's phenomenal by the way. I love, yeah. Love my girl. I love Mason Casey Tyndall. She's entertaining real sweetheart. And
Speaker 3 00:45:01 She is,
Speaker 1 00:45:02 She's, she's a fun, fun time being out with too. I've gotten to do that after, after some whiskey jams where we've all, where we've all gone out and hung with, hung with that crowd. And so how did you and her meet? Cause I, is she ist she from Carolina as
Speaker 3 00:45:13 Well? She's, uh, yes. She's from the Raleigh area. I remember being in college and I would see, you know, like posters and billboards and stuff at her playing in Raleigh at, I forget the, the venue. It was, um, and you know, it was pretty neat just seeing her, like, she moved there and she started growing and getting everything rolling and her being an artist. And then you move out there and, and I think my first, I moved on a Monday and on Tuesday I went to Revival and Laney Wilson and, and Jenna LeMaster were playing. Oh
Speaker 1 00:45:47 Geez. Yeah. You're, you're, those, those aren't Adss a show
Speaker 3 00:45:49 Wear. I remember hearing their songs and I was like, there's no way I'm ever gonna make it here. Like, those songs are insane. And, you know, flash forward to a year from now, I mean, I met Tyler Chambers through them, you know, at, at Revival and I met him at Ryan Nelson's house one night. But I mean, it's just such a close knit group. Everybody knows everybody and, and you know, you, you look at it now and we're all friends and you know, just, they're just great people. Yeah. Same as, you know, they grew up the same as you did. They moved here, they didn't have anybody and they, you know, you, you get by one day at a time and you build your friends from ground and you know, you just stick with each other.
Speaker 1 00:46:35 Yeah, no, and it seems like that, that saying, it's all about the hang, like just meeting
Speaker 3 00:46:39 People. Yeah. Oh yeah, a hundred percent. And
Speaker 1 00:46:41 Being cool if you're not cool to hang out with, why am I gonna wanna get in a room and think we can create something cool together? You know, like I feel like that's, that's something that's really, really cool and unique to Nashville. So now what's next in terms of music stuff?
Speaker 3 00:46:53 Um, just, you know, we're gonna sit down and write pretty hard for the next few months and, you know, try to, uh, try to get, you know, 12, 15 songs that we really think are great and then maybe, you know, cut down from that and, you know, get five or six, four or five and, and try to make a little EP by the end of the year.
Speaker 1 00:47:12 So an original pro. So that's coming. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:47:14 How
Speaker 1 00:47:14 Do you feel about that dude? A year into
Speaker 3 00:47:16 It? Yeah, I'm excited man. You know, just, it's gonna be really neat to get in and write, write some songs, and even the songs that I've already written, you know, with some of my best friends and everything, it's, you know, I'm looking forward to trying to get 'em out. Let everybody hear 'em.
Speaker 1 00:47:29 Yeah. Now we got a guitar in front of you. Now, real quick, before we get into the, into, towards wrapping this whole thing up and having you play a little bit for us sometimes, I've gotten to see you do this out before and whatnot, <laugh>, um, and gotten to see you do the Turkey call. The Turkey call, the duck call, any animal noises. Tyler makes animal noises too. One of 'em sounds like the dragon from Game of Thrones. <laugh>, whether it's like a baby dragon, he sounds like a little baby dragon and his mother confirmed this last night I was out with Tyler's mom's in town from Alabama. Shout out to, uh, shout out to Mother Teresa, uh, down there. I know she's gonna be listening and stuff, but she was saying too, how it sounds like a dragon. So I want to hear your, your Turkey calls. All right. So if you don't mind, cause Yeah, I don't mind. I know we're outta Turkey season, so do do you have to like get in the character here at all? No.
Speaker 3 00:48:12 Yeah, not really. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1 00:48:13 Hey Cody, get, get some video. Get some video.
Speaker 3 00:48:15 Kinda, you know, Turkey hunting, you, you have mouth calls and slate calls and you know, whatever pot calls, box calls, but there's also like a goblin call that they have that you can shake and, and everything. Well, I was on, I was probably 16 or 17 and I was on YouTube and there's a guy named Preston Pittman and he was goblin with his mouth. And we, I actually got meet him for the first time this past year at the N WTF in February and talked to him and everything. But that was the reason I wanted to learn how to gobble cuz it was just, it was neat to hear him. He sounded just like a Turkey and I was like, holy crap, that sounds better than a real Turkey, you know? And uh, so I started working on it and, you know, I'd do it by myself and, and just work on it, work on it working, it, working Cause you don't wanna do it and sound like an idiot. And if you're hunting with somebody, you don't wanna sound stupid or scare the bird off and they'd be like, what? What the, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 00:49:10 Yeah, the goal is to get the
Speaker 3 00:49:11 Bird. So yeah, I just, I kept on and on and on and on and on and finally I would, I started doing it out hunting and you know, birds would respond to it and I was like, holy, like this, this is working. They actually think I'm a Turkey <laugh>. So, uh, but yeah, so I can al hoot. A lot of times in the morning you'll go out and, you know, when they're still up in the trees. Roosted you can hoot like an owl And what's
Speaker 1 00:49:35 That sound like? I want to hear it.
Speaker 3 00:49:37 Yeah, I, I'll do it here in a minute, but you hoot like an owl and a Turkey gobbles back. Cuz when a Turkey wakes up in the morning, you know, he's all like freaking beating on his chest kind of thing, you know, I'm letting everybody know that I'm here. I'm the head honcho because in the spring they're breeding so they're, you know, they're, that's why their heads get all red and, and blue and white and all that's cuz of blood and stuff in them. And um, so they wake up, you know, they're on top of the world then, you know, ready to fight whatever, you know is gonna get in their way. And, uh, you hoot like an owl. So this, this is it.
Speaker 4 00:50:05 Ow
Speaker 5 00:50:10 Ow.
Speaker 3 00:50:15 So how's your Turkey gobble and your al hoop?
Speaker 1 00:50:18 That was awesome. Appreciate that. The dog's reaction was priceless. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:50:22 Cooper
Speaker 1 00:50:23 Cooper's reaction Now your dog, uh, your dog smokey that you got with your uhhuh smoke Uhhuh. Is it cool if I call, if I call him
Speaker 3 00:50:29 Smokey? You can call him Smokey.
Speaker 1 00:50:30 Smokey. All right, cool. Cause you, you were calling him smoke and as now when you, I gotta say when I, when I um, when I pulled up here to our studio at Tyler's place and I saw the truck, I'm like one, I'm like, that's Andy, that's a Carolina truck <laugh>. And uh, and, and it's, it's got the tags on it and then I look over and I see you got your dog. I'm like, this boy is country. Yeah, he's bringing his dog everywhere he goes. So that's your, that's your buddy right there.
Speaker 3 00:50:51 Yeah. So I got smoke my, uh, when I graduated college, he was my graduation present. I got him when he was four. He, uh, he was a good buddy of mine. Pike calls that I got with out in North Dakota my first year. Um, but we were friends from North Carolina. He was at Camp Lejeune when I was in Wilmington. Okay. And, um, we met at a Turkey camp on spring and we've been buddies ever since. But he got me the gig up there and I come up there and hunted for a year and smoke was there and I was like, golly man, that's, that's one of the best dogs I've ever seen. And you know, once you hunt, you can duck hunt. All you want is once you duck hunt with a good dog that listens, that's like another person there hunting with y'all. You will never wanna go again without a good dog.
Speaker 3 00:51:31 And if you go with a bad dog, it's a complete opposite. You'll never wanna hunt with another dog again. So I'd, I mean, I'd hunted with both. I'd hunted with, you know, good dogs throughout, you know, before I was up in North Dakota and, but when I got there, man, it was just like he would hunt with us in the morning and he would just be totally locked in like the craziest locked in you've ever seen anything. And then he would hang out with us during the day and at night he would crawl in the bed with Pike and just hang out, you know, just, he was one of the guys <laugh> and it was just every single day, like when my alarm clock goes off in the morning, he is sitting by my bed and I can hear his tail wagging ch on the floor cuz he's so excited. He's like, all right, it's time to roll, let's go, come on <laugh>. And you know, you hunt seven days a week for, I think I hunted this year out there like 48, 49 days in a row. And, um, they're ready to go every single day. I mean, there's nothing that breaks the bond you have with, with the lab or with any type of, I mean, in my experience, hunting dog. Yeah. But you know, he's out there every day of the week that you want him to, anytime you'll take him, he's ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 1 00:52:38 That's awesome. He's a, he's a great, he's a good boy. Seriously. Thank you ma'am. That was our first time. It was actually our first time having any dogs down in the studio. We had the pod cats, those cats have since <laugh>, since gone with the, with the owner of the studio. Shout out to our buddy Nick, um, who, who moved his camp and everything. So we no longer have the pod cats with us, but we're very glad to have the dogs here. And he's, it was, he's been super cool and he's hanging out there in the backyard making new friends. Oh yeah. So shout out to shout out to Smoke now. Where can people find you for music and stuff as this whole ride of, of everything starting to start to
Speaker 3 00:53:09 Take off? Um, as far as now all I have is Instagram. Okay. Um, I've never really had Facebook cuz I feel like there was, you know, too many parents on there. <laugh> too many, too many opinions. Yeah. But, um, but no, I, I, I don't have a Facebook, I have an Instagram. It's Andy underscore Austin underscore music, so, uh, you can find me there. Um, I had a Twitter. I think I, it's still there. I just, I don't ever get on it.
Speaker 1 00:53:33 Yeah, I I'm the same way
Speaker 3 00:53:34 I've got, I've been trying my best, I mean, years ago I'm on my phone a lot.
Speaker 2 00:53:37 I used use Twitter to troll people. <laugh>, he was one of, i I I have my own Twitter, but I have like a fake Twitter that I just used to like cause a ruckus and get people riled up <laugh>. It's a great time.
Speaker 3 00:53:48 Yeah. But I, I mean I'm on my phone more than I should be, I'll admit. But I mean between the Braves, look at the Braves a lot, you know, stats and everything and keep up with all that.
Speaker 1 00:53:59 Are they, when When's when are they gonna sign Kimpro already?
Speaker 3 00:54:01 Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 00:54:02 They're getting
Speaker 3 00:54:02 Aren't getting me started man. They're
Speaker 1 00:54:05 Waiting. They're for at the games aren't
Speaker 3 00:54:06 They? Don't get me started. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 00:54:08 So there's the draft coming up here soon after the draft we're gonna probably sign him because then we don't have to give up our second round draft pick.
Speaker 1 00:54:14 So that's So the hold ups all over a draft pick. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:54:16 Because we got busted like because of our former, uh, GM and all doing all that dirty stuff in the international market. So we lost all of our international money. We can't sign anybody till I think it's 2021. Oh Jesus. So a draft pick for us is like a bar of gold right now. You know, that's the only way we're growing our farm system other than trade. So we're like holding onto those draft picks like nobody's business. But, uh, once we don't have to give a compensation pickup, I think we're gonna sign 'em.
Speaker 1 00:54:41 Well when you guys get 'em, hopefully that propels you in the n e It'd be fun to see Yankees Braves again at some point, especially given the history with, uh, Yankees Braves. That would be, I would very much enjoy that <laugh> even though I was, even though I wasn't alive. I mean I think we were alive for that. I was like one and four, but <laugh>. Anyway, so I
Speaker 2 00:55:00 Remember those games.
Speaker 3 00:55:00 What year, what year were they with in the 2000?
Speaker 1 00:55:04 It was 90, 96 to 99.
Speaker 2 00:55:06 Yeah, I remember 99. Really? Well.
Speaker 1 00:55:08 Yeah, 96 to 99 were the two. And then the Yankees beat the Padres in 98 and the Mets in 2000.
Speaker 3 00:55:14 Yep. The Derrick, I remember that dude, do you remember, I can still remember this. It was Louis Gonzalez.
Speaker 1 00:55:22 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:55:22 Yeah. Remember when he hit that little chopper? Yep. Up the middle. Diamondbacks were like the purple with the pin strike. Yeah, the vest. Yeah. And he was jumping as soon as it he hit it.
Speaker 1 00:55:30 Yeah, he beat Mariano. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:55:31 Man, that was wild.
Speaker 2 00:55:32 It was just, uh, wasn't it shilling? And uh, that
Speaker 1 00:55:36 Was
Speaker 2 00:55:36 Chilling. Brandon Johnson chilling basically won that. Yeah. Whole series for them, like the whole playoffs
Speaker 1 00:55:42 Basically. And Mariano had been lights out, like that was him in his prime. So to get a to, to hit a cutter in game seven like that through, through the whole, that's, that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 00:55:51 We used to had such a like, weird stance to you. Oh, that really open stance.
Speaker 1 00:55:55 He was he one where, where the bat was up really high? Was he one
Speaker 2 00:55:57 One of those? No, no, he was the one that was like super wide in his stance. That was the, uh, second baseman for them that had the bat up really high. Like council counsel.
Speaker 3 00:56:04 Yeah, he, yeah, his arm was like cut the
Speaker 1 00:56:06 Circulation off was he was a gritty little player too. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:56:09 He still, I think he still manages, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 00:56:11 Uh, I believe so. He played for the Astros for a while and had a good career with them too. But yeah, he won a series. Was
Speaker 3 00:56:15 It the Padres? Maybe?
Speaker 2 00:56:17 Uh, I don't remember who else. I remember him mostly with the, uh, with the Astros.
Speaker 1 00:56:23 Yeah. No, but, but yeah. So, so go Braves and I'm gonna say go Yankees now you got this guitar right here? Yeah. Um, what kind of song you wanna play for us? What
Speaker 3 00:56:32 Do you wanna talk to us today? Um, it don't matter to me. You wanna hear something slow or something?
Speaker 1 00:56:36 I wanna, I wanna hear, I want to hear something that you're gonna really, you're gonna really be into and, and like what's that song you that you, um, did you play the one you went with Casey?
Speaker 3 00:56:45 Yeah, I'll do that one. Yes. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 00:56:47 That's what your favorite Now what's the title of that one?
Speaker 3 00:56:49 Uh, it's called One Foot In the Door.
Speaker 1 00:56:51 Uh, what, what um, what was the mood in the room like going into
Speaker 6 00:56:54 That? Um, she
Speaker 3 00:56:54 Had, it was, it was her hook. Um, she had kind of a, you know, one foot in the door and
Speaker 3 00:57:02 I forget kinda, you know, where we, where we went from there, but it was, it formed around, you know, being young and a lot of people can relate, being young and not knowing if you want to, you know, love that person for the rest of your life or move on and try to find somebody else and it was just kind of, you're, you're loving them with one foot in the door. Kinda like that, that security of, you know, I might be, it says in that, you know, I might be half in, you know, I'm still, that's as far as I'm gonna go from you. And it's just, I don't know, it was, it just come together really well and awesome. Yeah, it's easier to sing it than it is to explain <laugh>. Ok.
Speaker 1 00:57:46 Alright, well you're gonna, you're gonna be singing it for us in a minute. Well, Andy, thank you for coming on, hanging out with us. That wraps up episode 11, Tyler. Holy shit. We're at 11 of these. We haven't tried to kill each other yet. We haven't been told we can't be doing what we're doing. So that means we're doing good.
Speaker 2 00:58:00 We're getting there, man. We're
Speaker 1 00:58:01 Getting, we're getting there. We're 11,
Speaker 2 00:58:03 Which is almost your age now. So, you know, <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:58:06 Almost, almost. But hey, so if you guys enjoyed this, make sure you click subscribe, write a little nice little review, give us some stars on there. You can also follow us on Instagram at In the Round podcast, Facebook in the Round. Uh, shout out to Dakota Bear the great pictures and videos that are here. And, um, shout out to all the dogs that we got here too. We got three down here on the, uh, basement level. There's the dragon, there's, there's, there's CAI's Dragon right there. So without further ado, we're gonna let Andy take over this show, an original co-written with Ms. Casey Tyndall. Very excited to hear this one. So it's called One Foot the Door. Y'all, thanks for listening. We'll see you next time here.
Speaker 6 00:58:50 There's a, everywhere I look and I got bud and car seats in the back of trucks, it's few and far between that I hear. I know. I better settle down or there's chance that you'll be gone, girl. Know you're perfect and you're the best I'll ever do, but until I find myself I can't give it all to you'll up to you outgrown me. And yeah, might be standing at this four the but that's about as far from you as I'll ever GOs for sure. I'm, I know you need a little more than what I got to give and baby I can't blame you every time. I don't make sense if growing up is what you need from me. Well, I just ain't a promise I can keep standing. That's about as far from you as i'll if you tomorrow I'd have to understand, knowing that would kill me makes me a better man. Just because I ready don't mean I'll never, never I time that's from I'll ever go.
