Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:13 What's
Speaker 1 00:00:13 Up everybody? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast. You got Matt, Tyler, the Dakota Bear. We're in our fill in studio right now. Our good buddy. Shout out to our buddies, Jake and Dave for letting us record at their apartment while we're looking for new residency. And shout out to this girl right here she is with us from Canada. She's one of the most badass chicks that we see in town here in Nashville. We love her. We got to see over the weekend play writers around. It's Miss Royal Lynn Royal. I got asked in Canadian fashion. How are you now <laugh>?
Speaker 2 00:00:42 I'm doing good. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 00:00:44 Doing great. It's Monday, which you work. We forget what day it is. That's what we always say here in Nashville. You forget what day it is because like any night could be like the equivalent of what a Friday night is anywhere. Like you just forget that everybody's true's just running around and you're running around a lot. Yeah. Made a pretty big announcement yesterday, huh?
Speaker 2 00:01:00 Yes. We have new music coming out.
Speaker 1 00:01:02 Hey, that's awesome. Yeah. So what's the song about Alcatraz?
Speaker 2 00:01:05 Yes. So it's basically my very own version of a love song. Okay. So <laugh>, as you can tell from the title <laugh>, it is, uh, it's basically about being trapped in a relationship that you know, you're never gonna get out even if you're not together. So.
Speaker 1 00:01:19 Awesome. And that drops, uh, July 12th.
Speaker 2 00:01:21 July 12th. Pre-order starts on uh, July 1st, which is Canada Day planned.
Speaker 3 00:01:26 Oh, Canada,
Speaker 1 00:01:29 I'm done. That's awesome. So, so being from Canada, how long you been here in Nashville?
Speaker 2 00:01:34 So I've been coming back and forth. I just calculated out the other day cuz someone asked me, but it's almost been five years now. Oh
Speaker 1 00:01:39 Wow. Yeah, so back and forth. So are you like a once a month person where you're coming down, you're coming down for like a couple months at a time buying
Speaker 2 00:01:45 Like It was, it was always different. So I started out, um, I quit my jobs and I ended up buying a car and I was like, well I'm just gonna quit my job and drive to Nashville. And everybody thought I was absolutely nuts. My mom thought I was crazy. So, um, yeah, I started coming down for a few months at a time and you know, with visas and stuff you can't just move countries. Yeah. It's very, very illegal. So I had to make sure that I could get a visa and someone to sponsor me to be able to move down permanently. But you're allowed to be here I think for three to six months, depending on, you know, what the border gives you as like a visa. And then I was able to obtain my P two, which is a performer visa.
Speaker 1 00:02:24 Oh sweet. Okay. So right now, how long is this stint of being here?
Speaker 2 00:02:28 So
Speaker 1 00:02:29 When was the last time you were in Canada?
Speaker 2 00:02:31 I had to go back for my sister's wedding, so it, it's only been like a few weeks but I usually only get to go back on Christmas and maybe one other time unless I'm doing shows. Okay. Yeah, it's super hard to make it home and it breaks my heart. Well,
Speaker 1 00:02:43 I mean Nashville, it feel like we see out all the time. The first time I met you was actually, we were just talking about uh, live Oak and being over there and they do a lot of writers rounds, whatnot. But when I first moved there in October, frisky Frogs, I saw you playing and I'm like, who is this girl in the cowboy hat? And damn she's got a voice. And you were playing with, uh, with some of our other buddies like Dave and Greg Pratt. Yes. And uh, and Paul, uh, Paul Knack and all those guys. Yes. And that, that it was just so cool to get to meet you and, and seeing where you are from last fall to where you are right now with putting out music. It's really cool to see what's that process been of translating from 2018 to 2019.
Speaker 2 00:03:20 Well thank you first of all cuz everything you said was just so nice.
Speaker 1 00:03:23 No, honestly, seriously, like we see you hustle, we've seen you play Whiskey jam, we've seen you like do all
Speaker 2 00:03:28 That. Whiskey Jam was so much fun. Yeah. That was the first time I had ever played. Yeah. So we had an absolute blast and it was actually some of like, you know, the best sound that I've had. Like, I just felt like the room was there. Like everybody was so energetic and you know, I got on stage and all I saw were phones <laugh>. And it's so surreal because it's like people wanted to capture a moment and to me I, I understand like people are like, put down your phones and be in the moment. But for that to be the first thing that I come out on Whiskey Jam, we kept getting pushed back and pushed back and then all of a sudden we're playing at, you know, 10 o'clock versus the seven 30 slot that we were given or something like that. And to see everybody with their phones out and then to go back later and watch it, I was so happy that I got to to witness that, you know, firsthand cuz that's the first time that it had really happened.
Speaker 1 00:04:16 Yeah. And that's a, that can be a tough room to win over. That's all. Yeah. People that are doing it themselves, that are doing the singer songwriter thing. People that are in the industry, that's the, that's they know what good music is. Yes. And if it's not good music, they're gonna walk outside and and screw around and do whatever on the porch or go up on the rooftop now. Yeah. But they stayed and watched your set. That, that was amazing. That was a big room. Mm-hmm <affirmative> for, for your set.
Speaker 2 00:04:37 I had so much fun. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:04:38 That's awesome. So now 2019, we're all the way in June now, which is freaking crazy. Almost in July,
Speaker 3 00:04:43 Almost halfway through the year.
Speaker 1 00:04:45 It's fucking crazy dude. It's insane how fast time goes. But 2019, what was kind of your goal coming in this year?
Speaker 2 00:04:51 So my biggest goal for this year is to open for Cody Johnson or at least have something lined up for that. Okay. So that is one of my biggest goals. Um, I really, really want to be able to hit a market with my music and we have kind of the same market. Oh
Speaker 1 00:05:07 Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 00:05:08 So that was one I, uh, we're still trying to get there but uh, we've had a lot of good, you know, steps towards getting to that goal. And I really wanted to release three songs that will be released this year and we already have the fourth ready for January too. Ooh. So, um, we're really working away at getting an EP where people will be, you know, excited to listen to it and it hits all sorts of Western marketing along the way. Yeah. So Alcatraz is slower, but I can promise you the next one that's coming out is going to be, you know, one of my favorite songs I've ever written. So I'm super excited about this process.
Speaker 3 00:05:42 That's awesome. So are you doing the whole thing? Cause a lot of people right now are doing the thing where they'll put together an EP but they're releasing them all as singles. Are you doing that and then gonna a package together as an EP later?
Speaker 2 00:05:53 Yes. So I wanna do that, but I also want to do, I think it's the fifth song I'm gonna do it. So you have to buy the album to get the fifth,
Speaker 1 00:06:01 Like a bonus
Speaker 2 00:06:01 Track. Like a bonus track almost. That's nice. Because I really wanted something to people to look forward to cuz after they've already bought all the singles, it just didn't make sense for me to, for them to go and buy it as like a package. Yeah. And I do wanna sell CDs. I get asked at every show that's even at home. They're like, where can we get your music? And it's such a digital market now that we don't need to, you know, so to speak. Make CDs Yeah. And sell them because they just don't sell. Right. So I will be doing something like that and I do plan to drop that either January or February. Okay. And have that together.
Speaker 1 00:06:34 Sweet. That's awesome. Now with songwriting, when did you first get into this music thing? When was it that moment where you were like, I wanna do this for a living. I want to, I want to be that girl on stage. Kick your ass. I wanna be writing songs.
Speaker 2 00:06:47 Well, I have been performing and taking singing lessons and guitar since I was probably 10 years old. Okay. So I remember writing my first few songs being that age when I literally knew three chords and none of the truth <laugh> was when I was writing my first songs. Yeah. And they were terrible and I never wanted to show anyone. I'd show my mom, she'd be like, oh, I'm cool. That's great. Like, you know, supportive, but like, all right, well let's get a college degree. You know? And when I got older you mean I'm like 10 years old writing these songs that are Yeah. Not good that I look back now, but she saved all of them and a box and I found them a few years ago and I was like, these are terrible. I'm like, look at the writing. I'm like, why would you keep these? And she was like, well I had to like, I feel like that's such a piece of you even if, even if you think they were terrible, you were 10 years old writing these songs about stuff that, you know, we had no idea you knew anything about. Yeah. So I really started young and then when I was 15 I won a contest to be the Canadian Hannah Montana. So I got to hit
Speaker 1 00:07:50 No shit.
Speaker 2 00:07:50 Yeah. I got to hit like huge stages along the way. I'm stages
Speaker 1 00:07:54 That, that's fucking awesome stages
Speaker 2 00:07:56 That I don't even get to play now being an artist myself.
Speaker 1 00:08:00 How did that come come about? How did that, how did that come about? <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:08:05 I, okay, so my mom woke me up one morning and I remember she was in my room and it was early and she's like, Hey, wake up. I've got a, I've got an audition that I want you to go to today. And I was like, like I was like, can I just go back to bed? She's like, Nope, get up. So we went and there was probably a hundred girls and yeah, I sang my first song and they pulled me aside, which obviously was a Hannah Montana. I had a karaoke machine. So like I was grooving in my real life.
Speaker 1 00:08:31 What Hannah of Montana song was it? I
Speaker 2 00:08:33 Think I sang the Climb. Okay. I'm almost certain that I sang that one. Or Rockstar cuz there was two. It had to be upbeat. And then I did the climb just as like a bonus and there was four weeks of auditions and they pulled me aside the first week and said, Hey, like we found you, you like, we have four weeks of auditions left, but now we're just gonna pick your backup singers.
Speaker 1 00:08:53 Oh shit. Oh wow.
Speaker 2 00:08:54 So you can imagine girls coming in to thinking they're auditioning are getting cast as like background singers. So being 15 and being in like a room full of girls who wanted to be number one, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I was like terrified to be on stage too. So I'm already competing with these girls who were like, well I can do it if she can't, you know? Yeah. So I really had to learn quickly and learn the songs and learn the dances and learn choreography and set changes because halfway through the show I would take off my blonde wig and I had really dark hair and I got to be Miley.
Speaker 1 00:09:26 So you got to play both. I got
Speaker 2 00:09:28 To the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1 00:09:30 <laugh> shit that, that, that was it just called the Canadian Hannah Montana or did they have like a Canadian name for the Montana character?
Speaker 2 00:09:37 Yeah. Like it was like a Hannah Montana tribute or something along those lines. We've tried to find videos like we're talking 10 years ago Yeah. Where video wasn't a huge thing. Yeah. And pictures, like we had our, our PC drive. Yeah. Just completely wipe. So that had all of our photos. Oh. And we never printed too many of them. So sometimes I'll find one like come up in a batch and I laugh because the blonde wig looked terrible.
Speaker 1 00:10:04 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:10:04 Like, I'm blonde now. But like, oh my goodness. <laugh>. Yeah. It was hilarious. But it was so much fun because I got to play, you know, um, the London music call and like things that I would Oh wow. Would've never gotten to, to do in my from Southern Ontario. Right. Yeah. So we did shows every single weekend and it, it went on to more and I was still taking voice lessons. Like I'm classically trained in voice, stuff like that. So it
Speaker 1 00:10:29 Helps a classically trained in voice. What does that mean?
Speaker 2 00:10:32 So there's a Royal Conservatory of the Arts and that's where I started when I was, you know, around 10 and every six months you were able to do one of your grades. And it's hard, it was harder than any high school exam that I had ever done. And it was, it was so hard. I talk to my vocal coach now cause I'm like, it was terrible. She's like, I know, trust me. Like I did it too. And it was like, it's hard. Yeah. You had to learn like 10 songs and have each, everything had to be perfect. So you're being graded.
Speaker 3 00:11:02 Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Doing music for a grade is probably one of the most stressful things, especially whenever the grades left to the, like, it's not like a set in stone thing. Like, you know, I did guitar for a little bit in college and even then, like you could play something exactly how it is on paper, but like a professor might be like, eh, there wasn't feeling in it like I wanted it to be so
Speaker 1 00:11:26 Damn it can be so subjective.
Speaker 3 00:11:27 Yeah, very subjective. And it, it's up to like the professor, you know? Yeah. I couldn't do that. It's hard. Hard. And like there was times where like people just weren't like by the professors and the professors would like take it out on 'em times. Oh, that's true. And like I saw that and that's music's like one of those things for college that it's rough. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 2 00:11:44 Yeah. I love my vocal coach now here in Nashville. Like, she's phenomenal. Like, works with people like Marin Morris and you know, crazy people like Brothers Osborne. That's why I kind of went to her. And Greg Pratt actually recommended her. She's no shit. She's amazing. Awesome. So she really like helped me because when you're that young, you don't know your sound and you don't know where you're going. And now I know exactly how I wanna sound and I know like for most of my songs before I go in the studio, I see her three times that week just being like, how do I sing this word? Or am I breathing in the right spot? And like, I don't think a lot of people know like realize Right. How much goes into a song when you're recording it, you know? Live is completely different than in the studio.
Speaker 3 00:12:26 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:12:27 Oh I'm sure. Absolutely. Now coming down to Nashville, what were your initial thoughts of this crazy town that we now call home?
Speaker 2 00:12:34 I loved it from the second that I saw the Batman building I was in, I was like full force ahead. I was like, this is home and I will never leave. Like unless I get deported. Which hopefully not, but
Speaker 1 00:12:46 Hey, hey, we got your back. That ain't happening.
Speaker 2 00:12:49 Someone marry me if I get deported. Guys,
Speaker 1 00:12:51 We, we, we got you here. I know they raised rowdy guys. They got you. There's a whole, whole crew of people. We, a lot of, lot of Royal Lynn supporters here in the States. I love raised, rowdy. Now you're, um, your first experience walking down say Broadway or Midtown. What was that like?
Speaker 2 00:13:05 Honestly, seeing the mass amounts of people is overwhelming. And I remember we, where were we? The first night we got here, they dropped us off and we had no idea which way to go. Like we were asked backwards, <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:13:20 So you're from like a small, like more of a rural like country area I'm
Speaker 2 00:13:23 Guessing? Yeah. Yeah. I went to school in like in Ottawa. So I saw, I saw a big city, but the mass amount of people that come down here, like tourist wise, I was like
Speaker 1 00:13:34 Flab and the party that comes with it, just the craziness, the crazy shit that you see on Broadway. I
Speaker 2 00:13:39 Know. It's crazy. Crazy.
Speaker 1 00:13:40 Like over the weekend we took, uh, we had Brandon out with us. One of my roommates outside here, he had, he had, he had a girl with him and he had just, he just got back from being deployed at Guantanamo Bay in the Army. And his, um, his friend that he had with him had never been to Nashville and we were out there for maybe two hours. When I bumped into him, we saw three people get arrested. We went in, they, they both got hammered and we went to like four bars and I took 'em to the Sun Diner to eat. So they had like, they got all that experience, like they got to see all the crazy shit. Yeah. In the span of like two hours. Like you spent two hours on Broadway, you're just gonna see like crazy shenanigans. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:14:15 Uh, when was it? Saturday night I got off of work at like 10 and had to get an Uber and it took 40 minutes for the Uber to get from like, uh, Demian and Fifth down, the third and Broad 40 minutes for my Uber to get there. Yeah. That's
Speaker 1 00:14:34 Great. My goodness.
Speaker 2 00:14:35 I always meet them at like Korean vets. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:14:37 That's a new
Speaker 2 00:14:38 Idea. Anywhere like the, the big diner with the floor. That's where I meet them because it's insane. Yeah. I was down there partying on Saturday. Yeah, I know exactly how you feel. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:14:48 And then a lot of things that people don't are a big thing that people don't, don't really get unless they're coming down here a lot. Broadway and Midtown. Two very different places. Yes. People ask me where do, where do we go to get somewhere quieter and I send the Midtown. What was your first experience like going to like, winners, losers, doghouse, those bars. I
Speaker 2 00:15:05 Loved it. So the first one that I think Baker, GM and I used to run around together a lot. Okay. Like he was like my first friend in town and we used to always go to Red Door.
Speaker 1 00:15:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did. Sometimes
Speaker 2 00:15:18 Red is my favorite. Yeah. It like getting people to look in the hole in the middle of the floor. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:15:23 Yes. I still haven't done that.
Speaker 2 00:15:24 That is my favorite thing to make people do when
Speaker 1 00:15:27 I forget who got me. It might have been Dave or Jake or, or was you? Yeah. He was like, Hey dude, there's uh, there's dead bodies. And I'm like, what the hell are you talking about? He's like, dude look. Look in the hole. Look at the hole right there. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then I go to look and I'm like, oh shit, there's this. Well you gotta go see it for yourself. I ain't gonna spoil spoil the surprise. I
Speaker 3 00:15:45 Still haven't seen it. So you have
Speaker 2 00:15:46 To look. It's like a rite of passage.
Speaker 3 00:15:48 Yeah. I mean I haven't spent a ton of time at Red Door. Usually when I'm at Red Door, like I've passed, gone and need to go home.
Speaker 2 00:15:56 Yeah. Their Italian subs are the best and their potato salad is out of this world.
Speaker 1 00:16:00 I gotta try the Italian subs. Being from New York, I'm from the land. The Italian subs. Yeah. They have food. I gotta try that
Speaker 2 00:16:06 Already. They do have food.
Speaker 1 00:16:08 We used to always, we're always in there like two in the morning. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:11 They're still serving are really? Yeah. Cuz that's why we would go, we would oh we would write or go see a show and then it's
Speaker 1 00:16:17 A game changer cook out. But this is the game changer. Cause I mean
Speaker 3 00:16:20 Mean there's always daddy dogs now and
Speaker 1 00:16:22 There's daddy's dogs and
Speaker 2 00:16:23 Cookies. Never had a daddy dog. Really? Yeah. No, I'm not in, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:16:27 Not into it. That's
Speaker 3 00:16:28 On Two Boots right there. Two Boots is my place.
Speaker 2 00:16:31 All the food in Midtowns pretty
Speaker 1 00:16:32 Good. Yeah. Oh, distillery. I had that for the first time Schools
Speaker 3 00:16:35 House. I miss, uh, soul Shine Pizza Factory. Oh.
Speaker 2 00:16:40 I never went
Speaker 3 00:16:40 That. That was like one of the terrible tragedies of Nashville. Whenever they got shut down, they got shut down because like a bunch of people moved in the highrises from like New York and all and
Speaker 1 00:16:51 Hey, hey, I saw this is the truth. I saw you point at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:16:54 You
Speaker 1 00:16:54 Watched it through Alabama. But
Speaker 3 00:16:56 A bunch of like New Yorkers moved in and stuff and was complaining because they had music on the rooftop. They were complaining about noise. Oh that's terrible. And so the city like told 'em like, alright, put like a roof on it and we'll let you go. So they ended up putting the roof on it, tried to open back up with it and they still got complaints. And so basically they had to shut down because they couldn't keep business in there. Oh. But that place like on a Friday and Saturday night, like it was always blues music. Oh cool. And so like, it was really great musicians, really great time. It was really great. Uh, pizza too, but like having to put a roof on the outside on that rooftop, like killed the vibe. There's still one down in Franklin, but the one in Midtown was my favorite place. Oh, that's
Speaker 2 00:17:34 Too bad. Because Whiskey Jam has an outdoor concert. Yeah. I mean I guess it's only three days a year, right? Yeah. But still,
Speaker 3 00:17:42 Yeah, I mean like, this was like, I think they had music four or five nights a week. Like they had it seven days, but they had it on the patio outside like four or five nights a week. That's too bad.
Speaker 1 00:17:50 Yeah, because it is Music City and that's what's so cool. But I, I had some buddies in town from New York over the weekend mm-hmm. <affirmative> and they were just like, they were blown away that when you walk down Broadway and you just hear music <laugh> constantly and you're one of those people that that is, that is doing so doing that circuit from time to time and whatnot. What's that like for you? Cuz you got your solo thing going on, like you got there, there's Royal in music out there, there's more music coming, but you're playing these, these shows on Broadway doing the cover circuit. How hard is it to flip that switch?
Speaker 2 00:18:19 So I actually try to make sure that I'm keeping a business mind about it because it is my full-time job. Yeah. So I've really cut down my hours now. But at a point I was playing six days a week and I make sure that I have cards and I have my coozies and I have stuff to sell that's like my merch. I make sure they know my name, where I'm from, my story at every single one of these, uh, shows because I can stay in one place and hit people from all over America or Canada or the
Speaker 1 00:18:50 World over the world. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2 00:18:52 Yeah. So it's such a business side to myself just being like, Hey, you are here to build a following and you get paid to build a following. And it's kind of, people don't take it as seriously as that. And I make sure my shows are top-notch and I have duo partners that I literally like outshine me because I, I just want people to have such a good show and I make sure, like me and Hunter Girl, we play together a lot and we're best friends and we write together and yeah. We do everything together. She'll love, she'll love that I just said that <laugh> And, uh, we make sure our harmonies are on point because people will come back to our show and they see two girls power housing down there because it's not very common. I know at Whiskey Row you guys have the trio,
Speaker 1 00:19:33 We have Dazy that comes in. They are badass and they like, there's
Speaker 3 00:19:36 A, there's another band that played uh, tiger Lilly
Speaker 2 00:19:40 And they're really good too. Yeah. They
Speaker 3 00:19:41 Played uh, Monday night a few weeks ago and they were killer
Speaker 2 00:19:44 Girl power man. Like people love it.
Speaker 1 00:19:46 Yeah. I was just gonna ask you about that. Like obviously there's, there's, there was that tomato gate shit that happened years ago and I was working radio back then with when, when there was the PD that had said that and whatnot. But it seems like recently there is a real mm-hmm. <affirmative> girl power movement and not just like, say like a, like a candy bubble. Like country, like pop country. Yeah. There's like, like just badass girls like yourself, Laney Wilson, Meg Patrick, yes. Fan Rachel's Hannah Dasher. Casey Tyle, yes. That are doing just badass things and doing it your way. Yes. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. What's it like to be a part of a movement like that?
Speaker 2 00:20:17 <laugh>. I feel like all these girls who are amazing, each one of them I could go on and on about because I love each style that they all have, but we're not all doing the same thing. Yeah. And we're all constantly trying to think outside the box and pushing as far as, you know, I do western country music, so I'm trying to really see how far I can stretch that box before, you know, I can't before people are like, okay, that's too, you're walking a fine line there. Yeah. Um, but I think that we've had so much going on in like Texas music and you know, Nashville music based that like Texas is my next big thing to go down there and try and win everyone over. Yeah. Because I do really think that I, I'm from Canada so I'm like, Hey, invite this Canadian girl to sing. I have a huge following in Texas already. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:21:03 Oh, I'm sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:21:04 They see the cowboy hat, they see the boots and they see, you know, authenticity.
Speaker 1 00:21:07 They hear they, they also hear the lyrics. Yes. And what you're wearing like, like no saddle. Yes. You've heard ever that song that you've put out that song
Speaker 2 00:21:13 Did so
Speaker 1 00:21:13 Well. It did really well. And it, and it's about some real shit <laugh> that's people in Texas, people that are big into the red dirt seeing it crosses over somewhat and into what's called Americana now. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but has more of those traditional country style values and makes them, they care a lot about lyrics and about realness and authenticity. Yes. And you're showing that and the fact that you said the coach thing, that was really cool. What other red dirt artists are you really into?
Speaker 2 00:21:36 Uh, I really like Randall King. Okay. He's awesome too. I got to see them, uh, Cody Ann Randall at the, uh, Ryman.
Speaker 1 00:21:43 I saw you at that show. I
Speaker 2 00:21:45 Was like,
Speaker 1 00:21:45 Yeah, we were, I saw, I saw your face at that show. We were sitting not too far away from you. Yeah. I was like
Speaker 2 00:21:49 Dying. I love, I love Cody Johnson. He is. He is like, he's like going home for me. Yeah. He, every single song hits me right in the feels and gets me pumped up. Like people are like, oh, what gets you pumped up before a night out? I'm like, Cody Johnson <laugh>. It's hilarious. But I'm like, me and my kind, I'm like, yeah, let's do this. Yeah. Like, and I had a girl come up to me and she was like, you know, I really respect you because you wear your cowboy boots. And I was like, well I don't own anything else except my Crocs. Yeah. So we don't have a lot of option here. And she was like, you make me feel like I can wear cowboy boots again. And that blew my mind. This happened like last week.
Speaker 1 00:22:26 That's awesome.
Speaker 2 00:22:26 Yeah. I was like, I
Speaker 1 00:22:27 Was, that's a really cool thing.
Speaker 2 00:22:28 I hope girls wear their cowboy boots. Yeah. Go get 'em dirty like <laugh>. Oh yeah. Don't just wear 'em downtown. Everybody kind of wears them downtown, but Yeah, I used
Speaker 3 00:22:35 To, yeah. I used to work a boot barn downtown and
Speaker 2 00:22:38 A lot of people are like, oh yeah. Need and boots for being in Nashville and you're like, you'll never wear them again. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:22:44 So they're
Speaker 3 00:22:44 Like the cheapest pair and I'm like, uh, okay.
Speaker 1 00:22:47 <laugh>. So, so growing up, were you doing outdoorsy kind of things? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like doing the rodeo thing and
Speaker 2 00:22:52 Yeah. So my mom is a horse trainer. Okay. She's had horses my whole life. So we grew up on a horse farm and I get a lot of my inspiration from her and she taught me how to ride and, you know, live on a farm and take care of animals. And I do get a little bit of, you know, the country outdoors here a little bit because I go in, I volunteer at a therapeutic horse center Okay. Once a week. And I try really hard to make sure that, you know, I get out there cause it's one of those things where you, you don't get paid to be there. She does a lot for me and I make sure that I take care of the horses and do whatever she needs done because we we're able to film music videos out there and we're able to use the horses for promotional stuff and that means the world to me. So,
Speaker 1 00:23:35 And for you to just have that taste of home Yes. Like you're like, you're, you're, you might be in Tennessee, but Nashville is not the like a country outdoors. No, it's very much a city now. It's very much a city. It's very much city. I mean, you can go not too far out and you can be out out and bfe and be out in the middle of nowhere and be around farms and stuff, but That's really cool you get that. Well thank you. Kinda opportunity and stuff. So were you doing like barrel racing at all? Were you doing like rodeo stuff or were you just around it kind of thing? Like you got the what? Witnessing?
Speaker 2 00:24:01 So my mom rides dressage. Okay. And I, I always rode Western. So growing up we did get to do shows and stuff like that and I really switched from maybe when I was like 15, I really was like, well, riding isn't a passion for me. It wasn't something that I really wanted to do upfront every single week. Yeah. So I asked if I could do guitar and I could do singing instead. So I really kind of made a switch when I was, you know, 15 to kind of be like, I wanna learn how to do these skills versus, you know, riding. And we couldn't do both. So, um, we always had horses at the house and my mom always taught me to ride there, but on top of that I was really working towards a career. So to go back to it when I was about 20 and be able to actually like enroll in like a, um, a rodeo with my girlfriends, that was so much fun. And we got to do that in BC and it was more fun than I've had in a long time. We used to just pack our backpacks full of booze and <laugh> <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:24:57 Booze,
Speaker 2 00:24:58 Basically just booze. Yeah. And we would go and we'd ride in the mountains in BC and we would just go out all day Awesome. In my home and be like, are you alive? And I'm like, I don't have silver service. So, and it was so much fun and coming back to it then it really helped develop, you know, these songs that are written about such specific things. And I wish I could have rodeoed from when I was a kid to now, but I really had to choose. We didn't have enough to do both, so.
Speaker 1 00:25:23 Yeah. Now is that, is that um, something that makes you feel like that song, dear Rodeo, oh my God, that Kojo puts out, is that a song that hits you hit gives you the feels hits in the heart Soul? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:25:32 Yeah. So that song, I remember I heard that uh, he did a private show at Acme and it was all acoustic. And I had some of his songwriters who have been with him since the first albums and he sang Dear Rodeo and I have it, I videotaped the whole thing and that was when I was hooked. I was completely head over heels for this sort of country music. Yeah. And it does break your heart because sometimes you have to give up a dream to live another dream. Yeah. And you know, that's where a lot of, like that's where Wyoming came from Yeah. Was giving up someone who had a dream to be able to do your dream too. So, I mean, that song is coming so <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:26:13 Yeah. Yeah. We can talk about that one a little bit. Uh, now, um, speaking about songwriting, do you, they say that people have like crews or like their circles that they tend to write with. Yeah. And cuz you wanna write with somebody or write with a group of people that you gel with, it's, it can be risky just to go into a room with people that like say a publisher or somebody's trying to set you up with For you. Who are some of those people, if you don't mind sharing?
Speaker 2 00:26:35 Um, I really like to write with, like I said, hunter Girl is one of my number ones. I'll always call her if I've got, you know, a really good idea. Yeah. I'm like, girlfriend, you gotta hear this, this. And we always just drive and she's like, already got a melody. I'm like, cool, we're we gotta write this. Yeah. Like, we'll literally just talk about it in, in person and be like, you know, this is where we want this to go. So I do write with, you know, some different people like Davis Corley was on Okay. Alcatraz that is being released. And, um, I really try and make sure that my circles aren't closed, so I always write with new people and I Okay. Yeah. I make that a point because you're only gonna be as good as, you know, I wanna, I, I don't wanna be the smartest person in the room. I actually want to be the person who's the less, because I wanna learn at every single Right. And I wanna make sure that I'm always like moving up and moving forward. Yeah. And not being stuck. And I find I used to do that where I'd be like, well, I'm comfortable writing with this person. It's like, well you could have gotten an amazing song with, you know, if you just broadened your Yeah. Um, your circle like just a little bit. So, so yeah. I love songwriting
Speaker 1 00:27:42 <laugh>. Yeah. What was your first co-writing experience? Like? Were you doing that up in Canada at all before you came down? Or was that a Nashville thing for you?
Speaker 2 00:27:48 I was doing a little bit. So we have a recording school in London, Ontario and they, they would call me and say, Hey, we've got a school project, could you write something? And we will, we'll basically put a track to it. Okay. And I was like, sure. So I started doing that and I did that about twice. And then I realized that, you know, my co-writers weren't people that I was like jiving with. Yeah, yeah. Which was a huge thing, which they didn't really want country either. So I think I was a little bit out of my, you know, um, with everything on that. So definitely my first co-writing experience wasn't like the best. But I feel like that happens to everyone if you get to town and you've never written with someone and you're not able to open up and, you know, you have to say stupid things.
Speaker 2 00:28:32 Yeah. It's just the way that it is. And you have to be silly and you have to be open-minded. So it took me, you know, about a year of even being down here to be like, okay, well these people aren't telling you your line sucks. No. They're literally just trying to make the song better. You know? Yeah. If you think you can do a better line, it's like, don't tell people that line sucks. Say, Hey, what if we said it in this way? You know? So it's been a lot of learning. Even for me. I learn it every single write that I do something better, you know, <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:00 Now, how often are you writing? Is this like a, a regular thing for you? Like Yeah. Once a week or is it, or is it when like an idea pops up kind of thing?
Speaker 2 00:29:07 So I like to keep, it's a, it's a muscle, you know, songwriting, so I always try and make at least one a week
Speaker 1 00:29:13 That's, that's like, that's, I haven't heard that before. Yeah. Songwriting is a muscle,
Speaker 2 00:29:18 It's a muscle and you're only gonna get better if, you know, I've, I like to say like, I'm terrible writing on my own now because I love the flow of like a, a write where it's like, well you have this idea and I have this idea. And we wouldn't have gotten there without each other. So I really have to step back some days and be like, you need to write by yourself at least once a week, you know? Yeah. It's hard because we play full time, we have our own shows on top of that. We're trying to write in the midst of all that. So summer's like kind of my writing period. Okay. And then winter I try and hustle and make sure that, you know, I have enough work for the rest of the year and stuff like that. So I love, I love writing, so if someone comes to me they're like, Hey, I have a good idea. I will try and schedule you in wherever I have time. Okay. And even if we had to write till midnight, that's the way it goes. So. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:30:06 Yeah. Now do, do you also something that, um, Nelson had brought this up and we had him on, he was saying that sometimes the, he feels like the, the best songs that he comes up with are done in the quickest amount of time. Like he, like he's had somewhere. Yeah. He feels like there's bangers that come out in 45 minutes as opposed to when he is in a room with somebody for like five hours. Yes. What's what are your thoughts on something like that?
Speaker 2 00:30:26 After three hours? If we are not even to the second verse, clearly we're just not, you know, we're not there. So I always say after, after three hours, let's come back to it. Okay. Or let's, you know, take a break, like, let's get lunch or something. You know? Yeah. Maybe it is just a matter of getting to know that person a little bit better. To be like, Hey, what do we wanna say here? Like, what are you feeling? I've had rights where they get there and the girls are like, Hey, I'm, I'm just not in a good head space. And it's like, okay, let's go get a coffee. And if that leads to a right, that's great. And if not, you know, you made a contact that maybe you wouldn't have before. So,
Speaker 1 00:31:05 Yeah. And what were you gonna say Tyler?
Speaker 3 00:31:07 I was gonna say, um, I know we've talked about this with other guests a lot. When do you feel you're most creative? Like time-wise?
Speaker 2 00:31:15 Oh.
Speaker 3 00:31:16 Cause I know like for me, like when I write, like, especially if I'm by myself like that like midnight to like 3:00 AM slot is like my, like most creative Like your
Speaker 2 00:31:27 Golden hour.
Speaker 3 00:31:27 Yeah. That's whenever like all like my good stuff that I've like really enjoyed has come out really.
Speaker 2 00:31:34 Um, I, I guess mine would kind of be, you know, two o'clock to six or so I can really get into a song. I'm a huge morning person and people always laugh at me cause they're like, are you tending to the horses at 6:00 AM? Like what do you do at that time?
Speaker 3 00:31:49 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:31:50 And I don't know, my mom has always been an early riser, so I think I really adopted that feature. And I love to get up early and I make sure that like as soon as I hear my coffee maker going like around seven 30, I'm like, oh, I love it. Like I am so excited for that first cup of coffee and I am my most productive, not songwriting wise, but most productive, my first two hours of being awake. So in those hours, like people are like, what have you done today? I'm like, well I've been to the gym, I did my laundry, I did this. And they're just like, whoa, you are too much.
Speaker 3 00:32:21 It's 9:00 AM what the heck? I'm
Speaker 2 00:32:22 On my six cup of coffee <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:32:25 So by the time I get to work, you know, I play a lot of two to sixes now, which before I was playing a lot of 10 to twos when I was working at other bars other than Luke Bryan's. And so now being on the two to six shift, I feel like I have to be on my game and my voice needs to be perfect. So I'm taking a lot of time for vocal rest, a lot more than I've ever been used to. And that's been something that's so hard because I wanna write in the morning. Yeah. But now it's kind of flipping it. So it's like you need to schedule your rights Monday to Tuesday and the rest of the week you need to take care of your voice and you need to work as best you can, you know, to pay your rent. And we have so many projects. So, um, it's really been a learning curve and I feel like I'm most productive from two to six. So I schedule my rights and I usually do two a day Monday to Tuesday <laugh>. Yeah. But working on it, we're working on going down hours downtown so that my creative side can really flow all week. Yeah. But until that pub deal or that 360 label deal, you know, we can't really do that yet.
Speaker 1 00:33:27 Right. You said you like coffee. How do you take your coffee? Black.
Speaker 2 00:33:30 Black. Yeah. Like a true cowboy
Speaker 1 00:33:32 <laugh>. Do you have a coffee? Do you have, do you have a place that you like to get coffee downtown?
Speaker 2 00:33:36 I actually, okay. So I have a lot of Tim Horton's, a lot of Timmy's at the house.
Speaker 1 00:33:40 Of course you do. I love it. Just like Dave has the fricking Wawa jersey boy stuff here. Yes. The taste of home.
Speaker 2 00:33:46 But my favorite coffee, my mom brings it from BC and it's made in the mountains and this little shack. And I used to always get my coffee there <laugh>. And so she carts it back. It's kind of like the underground coffee railroad, <laugh> <laugh> because I love it. So she brings me like three bags every time that she comes to visit. But I do have Timmy's cuz I'm, I'm back in Ontario more than I'm out in BC
Speaker 1 00:34:10 Now. If there's somebody, like have you been to a Tim Horton's before?
Speaker 3 00:34:15 Uh,
Speaker 1 00:34:16 I hope you have cuz you would love it if you have, you would remember if you have,
Speaker 3 00:34:20 Aren't they starting to have those down here? A little bit now they're
Speaker 2 00:34:22 Moving, they're moving farther down, but they're not here.
Speaker 1 00:34:25 They're like, I've had 'em up in Maine, in New Hampshire. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:34:28 Like right along the,
Speaker 3 00:34:30 The Canadian, whenever I was living in Connecticut, I think they had one. Like I was up in Maine one time. Yeah. How
Speaker 1 00:34:35 Would you, can you describe Tim Hortons to somebody like Dakota over there? A, a unicorn or unicorn? Unicorn. Nashville unicorn. Um, horn's up for the unicorns. Um, that's to Dakota over there. How would you describe it? Tim Horton's. Cuz they don't have anything that's kind of like that here.
Speaker 2 00:34:49 They don't, and I've tried every, everything that people have said like, Hey, this is similar. I try it and I'm like, no.
Speaker 1 00:34:55 Like twice daily is not Tim Horton's. Oh my
Speaker 3 00:34:57 God.
Speaker 2 00:34:57 No,
Speaker 3 00:34:58 The white buffalo is not good.
Speaker 2 00:35:00 No it's not. I have gotten coffee there cuz I've been Have
Speaker 3 00:35:02 You ever done like quick trip?
Speaker 2 00:35:04 No.
Speaker 3 00:35:05 Quick trip. I
Speaker 2 00:35:06 Don't even like Dunkin Donuts. Don't
Speaker 1 00:35:08 Remember. Don't need to drink Dunking. No, it's
Speaker 2 00:35:10 Terrible.
Speaker 3 00:35:11 So I don't really remember Tim Hortons that much, but like quick Trip to me has the best coffee in the south. Interesting. They're mostly like Atlanta, like Georgia, like that area kind of thing. Yeah. Uh, South Carolina, like that part of the country. I get that. But yeah,
Speaker 2 00:35:25 I feel like Timmy's is its own world.
Speaker 1 00:35:29 I love that you call it Timmy's by the way. That is the most,
Speaker 2 00:35:31 That's what we call, it's Tim's Timmy's. Timmy's.
Speaker 3 00:35:34 I feel like the Tim Horton, Bucky's, Wawa, like those three are kinda like
Speaker 1 00:35:41 Sheets. Sheets is up there too.
Speaker 3 00:35:42 Sheets is up there too. That's kinda like the Whataburger in and out. Five guys battle <laugh>. They're all good.
Speaker 2 00:35:47 Love that comparison. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 00:35:49 Yeah cuz we, we love 'em And they're as Tim Horton's is mostly 24 hours, right? Yeah. There's 24 hours.
Speaker 2 00:35:54 Yeah, all of them are pretty much
Speaker 1 00:35:56 Now. Yeah. So you can, yeah. So like,
Speaker 2 00:35:57 But they have like donuts,
Speaker 1 00:35:59 You know, and have you know how popular Timmy's would be?
Speaker 2 00:36:01 Timbits? I missed Timbits. Oh my god. Timbits are like donut holes. That's what you guys call them. Oh, okay. But they're good. Usually they're not good here. Then again, I've never hadem at Duncan so Dunkin don't hate me, I just
Speaker 3 00:36:13 Don't. You also gotta try. Uh, my favorite place in town to get those is uh, Fox's donut den down in Green Hills. Oh. If you can get like the blueberry donut holes fresh off those, are they good? Those are amazing.
Speaker 2 00:36:24 You shouldn't tell me these things because I live in Green Hills. I
Speaker 3 00:36:27 Used to work at Good Dive at the mall and I would open up the store and I'd swing by like every time I open and just pick up a dozen.
Speaker 1 00:36:35 It's me. You know what I want. I
Speaker 2 00:36:36 Do miss them, but I do get my fill. Like I have a lot of people who are like, Hey, we're coming down, what do you need? I'm like, well
Speaker 1 00:36:41 It's like I got
Speaker 2 00:36:42 Grab me a tin of, it's
Speaker 1 00:36:44 Like, it's like I got bagel smugglers that come down from New York. They
Speaker 2 00:36:47 Come down and bring them. So they bring me
Speaker 1 00:36:47 Bagels. Yeah. Cause they don't
Speaker 2 00:36:49 See mine has to get past the border.
Speaker 1 00:36:51 Oh. So they're really smuggling
Speaker 2 00:36:52 On. Yeah. No, no, you're left. Bring
Speaker 3 00:36:54 Coffee <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:36:56 The last time I went home I was like, I talked to the guy at uh, customs and I was like, Hey I have coffee. He was like, really? Like, you're gonna have to get rid of it. I was like really? Like I can't even get it. Cuz I, when you go into America and you go into the American side, even if you're at the border, everything turns to American. Even if you're at in Toronto at the airport. So they had Timmy's on the other side of the glass. Oh. And I could see it, but you can't get to it because it's on the Canadian like, uh, deporting wherever they're going in Canada. And he was like, I'm just kidding with you. Coffee's fine
Speaker 1 00:37:31 Timmy. Take all the Timmy's you want.
Speaker 2 00:37:33 Yeah. And even at the border they always ask me, they're like, should I know who you are? And I'm like, it breaks my heart to be like, no, no you shouldn't. It's okay. But here's my card <laugh>. So then next time I do come through you're like, Hey. Cuz they're always like, oh, I had pink last week. And like all these artists that fly in Yeah. Or drive over the border in their buses. Right. So it's been great. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:37:53 Do you miss Canada? A a ton.
Speaker 2 00:37:55 I miss certain things. They're, you know, I miss like the kind of chips that I love and I I miss certain things. I they're
Speaker 3 00:38:02 Starting to bring those down here.
Speaker 2 00:38:03 Like the all dressed.
Speaker 3 00:38:04 Yeah. Laser
Speaker 2 00:38:05 Has or Di Pickle
Speaker 3 00:38:06 Lace has 'em now.
Speaker 1 00:38:07 Di Pickle chips. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:38:09 Yeah. I'll bring some for you guys cuz you would love them.
Speaker 1 00:38:12 Di Pickle chips I've
Speaker 3 00:38:13 Had. They're not bad
Speaker 2 00:38:14 For popcorn. Like Yeah. Y'all are missing out. That's all I have <laugh>, but I do miss it.
Speaker 3 00:38:20 Letter Kenny makes this reference so many times. Have you missed it? Letter
Speaker 1 00:38:23 Kenny <laugh> and Trailer Park Boys. How accurate are they?
Speaker 2 00:38:26 Um, I mean I grew up with Trailer Park Boys. Um, I don't like Letter Kenny, but it's not to say that I, I don't like them as people.
Speaker 1 00:38:36 Yeah. I just don't like the the show. Yeah. Those are like big, those are like big hat. Those are like No, are tho are
Speaker 2 00:38:40 Those I feel like they're not very big where I'm from in Canada. Yeah. No one has ever come out to me to be like, did you see that episode last night? It's like, no, I didn't <laugh>. You know what I mean? So
Speaker 3 00:38:48 Yeah. It's it's kind of like Jersey Soar for the Jersey people like
Speaker 2 00:38:52 Yeah. It's kinda like if you're from there, I just don't feel like it's a huge, you know, celebration. Okay. But I feel like the stereotype, if someone did that about an American, I don't feel like it would go over well.
Speaker 1 00:39:03 No. Uh, I I, I totally, totally understand. I was just asking. We, we watched it was just, it's just funny, funny humor. Late at night
Speaker 3 00:39:10 Humor. I actually finished it the other night. I
Speaker 1 00:39:13 Tired
Speaker 3 00:39:13 Of waiting on y'all. I waited like three months for y'all rewatch. Oh my God. Listen, I re-watched it all the way back through and got to the end and I was like, all right. It's like 3:00 AM I'm finishing it. That's
Speaker 1 00:39:22 Crazy. Season seven's coming out though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:39:24 But they film a lot of like Americanized shows in Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I know that Riverdale was filmed Yep. Kind of where my mom lives in BC and like so was Bates Motel. I've been to the Bates Motel. Where
Speaker 3 00:39:37 Is, where is, uh, Schitz Creek film that
Speaker 2 00:39:40 I don't know where they So Eugene Levy is Canadian. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:39:43 And so is his son. And like we had Jesse Young last week and he's like, Schitz Creek's doing really well up in Canada. That's, I
Speaker 2 00:39:48 Love Schitz Creek.
Speaker 3 00:39:49 Oh yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2 00:39:50 Me and my grandpa have watched it and we just sit there and die laughing like it's hilarious. It is. Um, I really do like that show. There's so many, like there's a lot of horror movies that are filmed up there and I know the fourth kind if you haven't seen it, I'm a huge scary movie bus,
Speaker 3 00:40:04 But, well, you were talking about a, uh, kind of, I don't know if you call it scary, but definitely a thriller. Earlier you walked in, we were watching Final Destination <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:40:12 Yeah. And you were loving it. You were, you're like, wait, this is gonna happen. This is gonna, she's calling out the Shots. Shots.
Speaker 3 00:40:16 But that was, that was film where you're at, right?
Speaker 2 00:40:18 Yes. One, I believe the first one was, I'm not sure about the whole series, but I know that um, lions Gate Yeah. Is also that's a Vancouver, uh, film. I don't
Speaker 3 00:40:29 Even know. Oh
Speaker 2 00:40:30 Really? Yeah. So they, they film a lot of stuff using a lot of the Vancouver things. So, which is awesome because it's Canadian based and then I'm sure they're, they have a partnership here with someone, but Right. Uh, Lionsgate films a lot of the scary movies. So like a lot of the really
Speaker 3 00:40:47 Cool movies
Speaker 2 00:40:47 Where, you know, it's great. It's great. That's awesome. Production companies. Sorry,
Speaker 3 00:40:51 You said that, uh, the log truck scene, that that's a road that you used have to, you used to have to drive
Speaker 1 00:40:56 Yeah. Highway to hell You were saying at Squamish.
Speaker 2 00:40:58 So yes. So that, my mom lives in Squamish, bc so Vancouver to Squamish has one road in and one road out. If there is a rock slide, if there's any sort of accident, you are stuck on that highway cuz you can't turn around, you can't go anywhere. So I used to drive that and the logging trucks that come up from, you know, the interior and go around all the way from Whistler to Vancouver, wherever they're going. And I used to have to drive it and I remember I, I watched that as a teenager and then driving it as an adult and I was like, this is terrifying. Like you could easily go over the edge here if you're driving too fast, like you can slide out. You kind of feel like a race car driver cuz it's so many like twists and turns. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:41:39 Oh, we had to go up to, uh, Lynchburg, Virginia. Okay. And there it's nothing but like two lane mountain roads that really aren't two lanes. And we're in a sprinter with a trailer and there's points where like terrifying. You're making hairpin turns and like, you look like I was on the outside. Yep. And like, I'm like looking down. I'm like, if we like go two inches to the right. Yeah. We're over this mountain.
Speaker 2 00:42:01 Oh, it's crazy. I actually lived in a trailer up in Squamish with like oceanfront property.
Speaker 1 00:42:06 Okay. Oceans
Speaker 3 00:42:07 Awesome property.
Speaker 2 00:42:08 That's Oceanfront property. Yeah. Just like the George Strait song. Only there actually was <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:42:13 Um,
Speaker 2 00:42:14 But that's actually where Alcatraz stemmed from, was from, you know, that living arrangement, uh, with, with my ex who still lives there and my trailer is somewhere up in that mountain. I just don't know where
Speaker 1 00:42:25 <laugh>, you talked about George Strait, uh, and you talked about Kojo, uh, some other influences for you, other people. Casey Musgraves. Okay. Top
Speaker 2 00:42:33 Of my head. Yeah. Old Casey. I love her new stuff too, but old Casey, she really stuck to her guns and she didn't, she didn't conform to what people wanted her to be and you know, that's how she got mama's broken heart cut and you got to write with Shane McNally from the start, you know? Yeah. Things like that. Now she's won, she's won everything under the sun now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:42:54 She's won Grammy's. She is one.
Speaker 2 00:42:55 She is someone I would love. There are two people. I would love to get three people. Sorry. That I would love to get into a writer's room with. That's Miranda Lambert. Kojo <laugh>, obviously Cody Johnson and, uh, Casey Musgraves. So gunning for it. Gunning for it, but I don't know if it'll ever happen, but
Speaker 1 00:43:13 Yeah. You you, you seem to really like that red dirt scene.
Speaker 2 00:43:16 I love the red dirt scene. And they're all from Texas.
Speaker 1 00:43:18 Yeah. And there's and there's a, a connection now there's, because it seemed like there was like a divide between this is Texas and this is Nashville. This isn't Yeah. There's a bridge coming together right now there and I, there is think Kojo coming to town. Yes. And signing that major deal is, is a big sign of that. An unheard of deal. Yeah. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 00:43:35 No, no it doesn't. He had an empire before he even got here and I've been a fan since before the Kojo Nation Yeah. Ever set in because we were listening to him in Canada. Yeah. So I can't wait to be like, Hey, I was listening too with u i m before you were ever in like, maybe not Nashville, but you know what I mean, like before you were radio.
Speaker 1 00:43:55 Yeah. And he's got some big shows coming up and I can't wait to see what the rest of the country mm-hmm. <affirmative> thinks of him because I've, I've, I saw him play a show. Taste of Country Music Festival, hunter Mountain, New York. Okay. They set up a stage and you're, the crowd is like going up the side of a mountain. It's on like a ski slope. Oh cool. It's like a redneck Woodstock. It's right where Woodstock was like for co That was great. Yeah. It was awesome. I saw Kojo there a couple years ago and seeing what a, what a crowd from the Northeast <laugh> thought of this Texas cowboy. I was like, holy shit, who is this guy? Who is this guy? Like, I'd heard of him and I'd heard some of his songs, but that live show, holy shit, he
Speaker 2 00:44:30 Gets better and better. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:31 And he, at the Ryman, he still did the same thing. He's flying around stage on the Ryman and then he had his little girls come up and sing and it, and it, it was awesome.
Speaker 3 00:44:40 And I feel like with like, uh, as Ryan referred to it, the underbelly of country music, like the stuff that's not getting the radio mm-hmm. <affirmative> and especially like the Texas stuff, like even in the northeast out west, like everywhere you go, you can relate to that because they're living that lifestyle and they're actually writing about what they know and they're writing about real things and people can relate to that. Where a lot of the pop stuff, you know, people aren't relating like, yeah, it's catchy, it's poppy, but they're not necessarily like grabbing on relating to it and becoming the super fans like Kojo and Yeah. Like Tyler Childers and Jason Isabelle and all those guys are having right now.
Speaker 2 00:45:20 The underdogs.
Speaker 3 00:45:20 Yeah. Really, because they're not connecting with their songs in that way, you know?
Speaker 2 00:45:26 Yeah. Oh, it's completely about connecting with your audience. I think that's something very important. You can put out a great record, but if you're not gonna connect with anybody, you know? Yeah. I feel like there's no point.
Speaker 3 00:45:36 That's, yeah. One of my biggest people right now is Tyler Childers. He's great. He's great. And I follow like a few like fan groups on like Facebook and there's always like pictures of like, Hey, saw him walking around today, like before the show stopped him, he talked to me for 20 minutes. Yeah. And like our people bring like stuff like, uh, I forgot what it was. It was something like a cancer patient made it something for him. Aw. And he like wore it that night at the show or like brought it down on stage or something. Like, you know, that's the real connection. Yeah. To fans that people were looking for. To the people or,
Speaker 2 00:46:06 Totally,
Speaker 1 00:46:07 Yeah. Especially within country music. I feel like there's always been that going back to what Garth, what Garth used to do and what people like Tim McGraw would do. Like, like all those kinda artists. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and whatnot. The nineties legends. So where can people go to find you? Because you've got a lot of stuff coming up 2019. Yes. You going out on the road at all? Is it music? Is it mostly writing? Is it getting ready to put out music?
Speaker 2 00:46:27 Well, for the rest of 2019, I think we'll just be like studio and getting, getting my message to everybody. Awesome. Cause I feel like that's my biggest thing and you know, as soon as 2020 hits, I wanna be, I wanna be on the road and I wanna be in Texas. And that's one of my biggest things is trying to book Texas right now. So really working on it. So I hope to go on the road and at least do a few shows come 2020. Cuz now we're sitting in almost July now,
Speaker 1 00:46:54 So. Yeah. Well, Texas, if you're listening out there, we've got an awesome cowgirl. You bring me down that has some badass songs. You guys and girls gotta hear this Royal Lynn Network. Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 00:47:04 So everything is under Royal Lynn Music Royal has an E on it. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people forget the e.
Speaker 1 00:47:10 Yeah. Now do they pronounce it differently in Canada? No, the French Canadians pronounce it any certain way. Well,
Speaker 2 00:47:15 So I'm actually, yeah, I'm from, I'm from Southern Ontario, so we don't have a lot of French Canadians where
Speaker 1 00:47:23 I'm from. But say you went to Montreal and somebody sees your name, but you're at Starbucks. I don't know if you like their coffee or not, but say you're at Starbucks or at Timmy's or whatever, and they call out and they read the name on the cover, they
Speaker 2 00:47:31 Would probably say Royale Royale. Which drives me nuts. <laugh>. I cannot stand it. It sounds like Rafael. Like I just feel like it's so like prissy. Yeah. So I, I always just, I'm like, it's royal. It's super, super normal. Yeah. Low key, but yeah, no full name was Royal Lynn from Birth. Awesome. A lot of people ask that too, so.
Speaker 1 00:47:51 Awesome. Yeah. It sounds like you were meant to be a, uh, a, uh, <laugh> singer songwriter, country singer songwriter. Oh, thank you. As, as Coda Coda Bear is, uh, is uh, having himself a day over there. We'll talk about that. Uh, talk about that next time. Tyler might have something for the Instagram story that one post when the episode releases <laugh>. But, um, but awesome. So people can find you Instagram. Yes. Facebook, Twitter,
Speaker 2 00:48:13 Farmers only. Whatever you're
Speaker 1 00:48:15 On. Farmers only <laugh>. Oh yeah. I got a funny story about that. I'll tell you that. Farmers only Canadian farmers only. I'm
Speaker 2 00:48:21 Just kidding. But thank you for having me on guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:48:24 Thank you so much for taking time out. We know, I know how busy everybody is here in this town and I really appreciate you taking the time out and uh, and it's very excited to hear you play what song you wanna play for us.
Speaker 2 00:48:35 Um, I think I might do Wyoming. I feel like it's a crowd favorite,
Speaker 1 00:48:38 My favorite song. But you I love all your songs. Yeah. But Wyoming and we heard it over the weekend. Also quick shout out to Evil Nash Brewing up in Clarksville. Our good buddy Jodi Chap had uh, had a nice little event you were playing. Yes. Buddies. Ethan Willis. Noah Smith.
Speaker 2 00:48:54 There were tornadoes,
Speaker 1 00:48:55 There were tornadoes going on. We still made it, but it's a cool spot. Also, shout out to Smitty who, uh, was driving around with the barbecue sauce. The barbecue sauce guy. I left with like a case of barbecue sauce.
Speaker 3 00:49:07 So I, I had some uh, pizza, some barbecue chicken pizza and like Oh nice. I put it on top of it. Oh, you threw spinney on top. Oh man.
Speaker 1 00:49:15 So good. But, but we got to Wyoming there and, um, the story behind that song real quick,
Speaker 2 00:49:20 So I wrote that with Sarah Jones and Priscilla Block and we kind of came together that day and you know, a few of us were cutting and we were kind of just looking for, for something for our albums and stuff and we never could have imagined that we would've written that song because it's so many people have come up to us afterwards just being like, that is a, that's a hit. Yeah. And we all love it and we all wanna cut it and it's super hard because we've had to really put our, uh, we love it so much that we've had to put it on hold and just be like, okay, we need to pitch this to bigger people. So that's what we've been doing and we've been sending it everywhere, just trying
Speaker 1 00:49:58 To, it. That's exciting. As a songwriter,
Speaker 2 00:50:00 We had runaway June really love it and say like, we'd love to show it to the rest of the girls. So we did a quick demo and we sent it to them too. So we put it on Facebook and you know, the outreach that we got was huge and people loved it and people shared it. And we got our little glimpse of 15 minutes of, you know, a little bit of a fame between our followings.
Speaker 1 00:50:17 That's, that's a glimpse. And when once that song is cut Yeah. Whether it's you putting out or one of the other co-writers Yeah. Or somebody, somebody that's up at the higher level right now. We
Speaker 4 00:50:26 Are really
Speaker 2 00:50:26 Hoping,
Speaker 1 00:50:26 Hey, people are gonna love that song. Yeah. And I can't wait for you to play it right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:50:29 Excited.
Speaker 1 00:50:30 Thank you. Let's do it. Awesome guys. Well Royal, thank you so much for hanging out with us while she grabs that guitar. Uh, a little housekeeping you remember, you can follow us on in the round podcast We did. This is episode 17. Yeah. Yeah, we can count that high, right? Tyler <laugh>. Yeah. Episode 17. Thank you guys for listening. Whenever you're listening, make sure you hit subscribe, follow, leave us a review if you want, you can follow me at Matt Brill at just a wandering, not a wandering, say, say, say it how you say it. Wandering. Sounds like he's saying wandering like he's thinking, but it's really wandering like he's lost in the woods <laugh>. Um, so make sure you guys follow along with Tyler as well. He's gonna be out on the road doing some cool things and, uh, big shout out to the Dakota bear. Um, hanging in there, taking cool photos and videos and whatnot. Now without further ado, here's Miss Royal Lynn with Wyoming. Y'all been listening to the, in the podcast.
Speaker 4 00:51:24 I saw that you were calling, I saw stars in his eyes. Everythings to you. It's hard to do. Can't say I didn't drive. And why did you have to take breath away? You've, and
Speaker 5 00:52:05 Why,
Speaker 4 00:52:19 Why breath away? Why did you would've, why.
