Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Come on.
This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill, a rage rowdy podcast.
What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Outside the Round with me, Matt Brill. Today, a very special guest, a young lady who I have not seen in a while because she has been out there crushing it. We doing the damn thing was on the road this past season. Been down in Texas. Been working on some stuff out in la. We got our girl, Cassidy Daniels.
So good to see you.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: Hi. Oh, my gosh, I'm so glad to be back. I always love yapping with y', all, so.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: It's been too damn long. I'm trying to think of the last time I saw you.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: I feel like I popped into a raised rowdy show recently.
I saw you at Charlie's thing.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: At Charlie's thing.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: At Charlie's Thing. And, yeah, that might have been the last time. Was you there or was Nikki.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: No. So, Nick. So Nikki was there. So Aaron and I were on vacation when we did that benefit, so it had to be somewhere back in the fall maybe.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Unless around Christmas.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Probably around Christmas time.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: I missed the Christmas party. I know. I was so bummed.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: I know. But for good reason, because you've had a lot of cool things going on, girl.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I have. I missed Butt Rock night, too, and
[00:01:22] Speaker B: I'm sad about that. I know. Hey. Grace Tyler did bring me to life, to justice.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: She did. Did she crush it?
[00:01:28] Speaker B: She did gr.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Great. She did.
[00:01:29] Speaker B: She did great. Clayton Shea did the. Did the wake me up, call, call back parts from, like. From, like, off stage. I, like, hand those microphones, like, hey, do this. He was like, okay. And they nailed it.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I love him for that. That's so funny. I could just see her. Just wake me up.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it was perfect.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: But, yeah. So 2026 seems to be off to a pretty big start for you, huh?
[00:01:52] Speaker A: Man, you ain't lying. Yeah, it's. It doesn't seem like a fast start for me because to me, everything began when the road ended, which to most people, that's December when it ended. But for me, we wrapped that show, and I knew what happened since April 4th.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: Wow. So there was. There were seven months in between.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And, I mean, I sat on my hands and bit my tongue till it bled, trying not to tell people, you know, what happened and what the outcome was, because we all knew. But it was, I mean, the hardest secret I've ever had to keep. I was like, oh, my God.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And I remember when you were telling Nikki and I. About going on that show and going out on the road and doing that thing and watching you on tv. First of all, thank you for repping the raised rowdy hats. My mind was blown when I saw that. But two, it was so great to see you in the spotlight and getting the love for your musical talent and your personality that we've known about for a long time. But to see the world and to see guys like Keith Urban and Blake Shelton and Taylor Sheridan and the folks that you were out there with, the other contestants, like, just seeing you shine was so awesome.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Thank you. It felt really good. Honestly, it was everything that I needed. It was really reassuring to me being around all those folks, especially, like, Keith and Blake and Gretchen and Taylor. Like, I just kind of realized in being around them a lot that their thought process is the same, if not super, super, super similar, the same as mine.
It kind of just reassured me, like, okay, yeah, I am cut out for this life. If they think like me and I think like them, then I'm. I'm doing all right. Yeah.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Now Gretchen Wilson's a hero for you.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: Someone that you definitely. Everyone, I'm sure, sees a lot of similarities. And what was it like working with her? And that first time that you met her, you were like, hey, mom hates this. Like, she's literally. When you think of, like, the redneck woman, the girl that's all jacked up at the bar, like, it's you. Like, you are a Gretchen Wilson.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I literally. Oh, my God. So I remember when we first found out that Gretchen was even going to be part of the show, I think she was a last minute addition and, like, could not have been a more perfect person to have.
And I remember we were in Fort Worth already. We weren't even in Nashville. We were in the lobby of our hotel in Fort Worth, and we were fixing to go start rehearsing for the first show at Tannehills, and we had our showrunner, a dear friend of mine. His name's Nino. And he was like, all right. He's got his little clipboard. And he was like, so we're gonna go meet our tour manager. And I'm like, tour manager, what? And he goes, gretchen Wilson. And I'm like, shut up. I was like, shut up. I mean, I cussed. I was like, shut up. And everyone's like, what? And especially the showrunner. He didn't know who Gretchen was. He was just like, oh, talent. And I'm like, I've been singing redneck Woman. Since I was in my car seat. Probably art not have been, but I was. And like, I just. I remember that whole record of her leaning up against, like, the. Whatever it was. And then Gretchen Wilson. Wilson. That looked like in the Waffle House letters, like, ever. And I listened to that record on repeat when I was a kid. And meeting her was just. She's exactly who you think she would be, except she has such a big heart. Like, people always think, you know, oh, she's crazy. She's trying to kill everybody all the time. Whatever. No, she is. She cared the most about all of us. She's so sweet and gave such good advice. I love her. I can't say enough good things.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: That's awesome. And you went very far in the show. You finished in the top three with two other good friends, mutual friends of ours, Adam Sanders and Channing Wilson.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: And.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: And it seemed like all you guys got along very well on the show.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I think it was non scripted reality tv, which it was, because, I mean, truly, you really didn't know what any of us was going to say at any given time. But the thing about that, though is I think, like, non scripted reality TV naturally wants to pit people against each other, especially in a competition show. And yeah, we, like, bickered like siblings every now and then. You know, I mean, we were out for 11 weeks with each other, so I mean, we'd bicker and we'd, you know, whatever this, that and the third and. But at the end of the day, we're like family. We love each other like family. And still now, since the show's over, we're each helping each other. Like, I'm writing a song with Channing this week.
I just, like, reposted. Adam just dropped a Bible in a house fire, which is one of my favorite, favorite Adam Sanders songs. And I'm, like, sharing it because we love each other and they would do the same for me. So it was. Couldn't have asked for a better first cast.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And honestly, as someone who works in the music industry, I loved how the show was shot and then how it was released.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Like, I grew up watching the American Idols with my mom and my mom and all of her friends and all the daughters and all the brothers would come over the house and me and the brothers would kind of screw around and mess around on the nights that it would come on, but the moms and daughters were really into it. So, like, I remember watching the American Idols and seeing the Voice and seeing all the different shows, but to see it unfold the way it did with the road and actually going on tour and having to perform in front of the live audience like that. And the crowd having the votes and Keith and Blake and Gretchen all being there as mentors. Like, it was. It was one of my favorite of the music reality show.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah, there's nothing like it. Like, there is nothing like it. I tried out. So fun fact, I tried out for American Idol and I got sent to Hollywood. But, like, like in October, before I went out for the road. So, like, this was in October and I was, you know, waiting at like this hotel in Nashville to go sing for Carrie, Lionel and Luke. And I did, and it was fine. And it was like, I, like, barely made it to Hollywood week by the skin of my teeth. And I remember thinking, like, okay, I'm not some 18 year old kid that's not been through the ringer, you know, of country music and of the music industry. Like, I'm not just an amateur. Like, everything in my soul about that was just screaming no.
And I got a call from a good friend of mine, Andrea Von Forester, and she calls me and she's like, hey, there's a show happening called the Road. I think it is a perfect fit for you. Would you like to do it? And at that time, I was like, literally gearing up to go to Hollywood week in American Idol and everything in my soul was just like, get out of American Idol. Go do this. So. So I did. Because I'll be damned if I don't listen to my gut no more.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: And I went out to, I think Burbank in February and I did these, like, executive callbacks. And I remember it was literally this time last year, I was at Waste Management in Arizona. I was probably hammered. And I get a call from, like, this Hollywood number and I'm like, oh, shit. And they're like, hey, this is so and so producer from the road. We just want to let you know we think America needs to see more of you. Congratulations, you're on the road.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: And I was like, no way.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Like, I was like.
And then I went and partied my ass off at Waste Management and then went to, like, went back to start filming in Nashville like a week later.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And you talk about you're someone that's been through the ringer you've been doing. I know your backstory, but a lot of the folks watching and listening to this probably don't, like, talk about coming up here at a young age and kind of how your story of coming to Nashville and Then later moving here and you're someone that's had deals and done. You've grown up. Like a lot of kids, they grow up in high school, but like, you grew up in music industry. Yeah, you really did.
[00:09:33] Speaker A: Truly.
I think aside from not having a parent that's in the industry already, I'm pretty solid of like, literally, I've been doing this over half my life. And I mean, it started off when I was like 12 years old. I was playing a little dive bars down in Florida. There wasn't no country bars down there at the time. And if there were, I couldn't get in. So I played the blues bars, I played the rock bars, I played Bruce Rossmeyer's Harley Davidson in Daytona.
I played all these wild ass venues and I fronted all these bands. And I moved to Nashville finally when I was 16 or 17.
My mom kept running out of reasons to keep me with her in Florida. Cause she was like, well, you know, go ahead and finish high school. I finished high school early. She's like, well, get some college under your belt. I got some college under my belt. And I just, I was off to the races. And I'll never regret coming here so young.
Because the truth is, and it's an ugly truth, you've got to get started so much younger as a female artist. Because our window of opportunity is a little bit different than the guys.
So I knew that if I didn't start, you know, making my name known right then and there, it was going to be a harder road for me in the long run. So I come up here, I worked all the jobs, retail bakeries, this, that and the third. And then I played on Broadway at night and I wrote songs during the day.
And Liz Rose, who had been my mentor since I was like 14, finally was like, all right, we're gonna do a deal with you. We're gonna sign you as a songwriter and see what happens. And I mean, they've been in my corner forever, since I was like 14.
So I've stuck with the people that stuck by me with y' all too. I mean, y' all are a big part of my journ just in giving me a platform to play and shows to play. There's not a lot of full band shows in Nashville and I get to do yalls and invite industry people here. And industry people love y' all too.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: So it's like, appreciate you saying that. I love telling people the story of how you and I met and Nikki T, for that matter.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: Cuz it's a great.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: I had Heard your. I had heard your name before, but hadn't had the chance to see you play. Like, I know you've been playing rounds around town and back then you had your. You had like your Puckets gig and like different things.
Shout out Puckets.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Shout out to Pup.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: I've still got that gift card, by the way. I've still got that gift card. I got to use that.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: They used to give me a gift card every time I played and I used to literally play there to eat. Yeah.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: So I play for a meal and
[00:11:58] Speaker A: so I had a million gift cards and I gave Matt one.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: Yeah. It's an honor. It's still in my wallet right now, right here.
But we were down at the Key West Songwriters Festival. This had to be what, 2021, 2022.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: First year after Covid or something like that.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So that would have, um. And you were playing on a round at Irish Kevin's with my good friends with Trey Lewis, who I was working with at the time, and Ella Langley. And as the. As the round started, there was a fight in the front row between these drunk, middle aged women.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: The Cougs man, the Cougars.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: Trey was egging it on. Like, it was just chaos. And I remember hearing you, hearing your voice and being watching you on stage and watching how you handled that moment and being like, oh, shit, who's this girl? And then from then on, it's been like family.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, that was such a fun round. Because it was fun because after that, I think I did some shows with Trey. I went out and opened some. And I mean, Ella's just always been someone to look up to also because, you know, there's only so many girlies in the industry and we all got to stick together. And Ella's always been kind of like a little North Star for all of us. And I'm. God, it's just so funny. Looking back, Irish Kevin's in Key west during.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: It was like middle of the day too, or maybe not middle. It was like later. It was later in the evening.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: It was a late night because I remember I was like, damn, it's a late show. It's going to be rowdy. Because between me and Trey and Ella, I was like, oh, it's going to be so rowdy.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: And that was. I think Trey had his stuff going on. Like, I think he had just. He had just put out single again and Ella had her. Had her deal going. And I think you've been out with Randy and you were doing your stuff with. With Liz Rose and It was like, all to see where all you guys are at now from. From then, that place was packed. Like, that was one of the rounds that people could not miss.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: Yeah, no wonder fight broke out.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah. It was Cats. I remember standing there with Nikki being like, oh, this is wild. This is wild. And then you've been camping with us. You've been to festivals with us.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Always.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: Auburn Rodeo.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: Ooh, Auburn Rodeo. Low key, kind of traumatic. Still so fun, though.
Okay, fun fact. So do you remember my song Whiskey Drinking Women?
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: So speaking of our friends and people that we love and speech. Speaking of, like, the road and everything.
I don't know if I'm supposed to tell this yet, but I'm going to anyways. I think we're putting out Whiskey Drinking Women with Gretchen Wilson and our friend Ashlyn Craft.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: Oh, sick.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: And there's like, we're working it out. We're in the beginning stages of working it out, but everyone wants to do it. And I think it's just a matter of finding time and when we're gonna do it. But I'm really excited about that. That's gonna be so cool.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: That is a staple Cassidy song. And when you. I think it was episode one. You sang Crazy Love, right?
[00:14:43] Speaker A: Episode one was Crazy Love. And people don't know this. I sang me and Bobby McGee, too, but it got right from the show. We each did a cover and an original, and I was like, damn, I could have used me and Bobby McGee for the last show, but whatever.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: But that had to be such a cool feeling for them to be that behind one of your originals.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. I. Yeah, that night was crazy. The very first night at Tannehills in Fort Worth, I was just, like, dancing around, like, la. It went like my incense and shit backstage. Just in my own little world, like I do. And we all got up and did our thing. And I remember I was like, that was electric. I got off stage, I was like, so cool. And I mean, I was just like. I opened for Keith Urban. This is sick. If I go home tonight, Cool. I open for Keith Urban. On to the next.
And we came back and Taylor Sheridan had prepared, like, this speech for us. It wasn't like a speech like, on paper. He just had it in his brain. He comes walking out, he's got like this long, fabulous, like, pea coat on and lucchese and like a full ass glass of red wine.
And he's telling us, like, all this advice about basically showbiz, baby. And he's like, you've gotta Be screwed up in the head to want this. It's gotta be really, really, like, be your number one thing. And he's just encouraging us and all of us are kind of like. He's a real intimidating dude when you first meet him.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sure he's like, sitting there and he's jacked too. So he's sitting there like this, like, watching us. And I remember I'm singing Crazy Love. I'm like, oh, my God. And he comes back, he gives us a speech and he's going on and on, and he's like, you gotta be screwed up in the head to want this. You gotta want it that bad. And then he goes. And you. And points over at me and I'm like.
I'm like, what? And he goes, my dear are a wonderful. And he hugs me in front of like, God and everybody. I'm like.
I'm like, hell yeah. I love this. And I mean, dude, he has been such a champion to me ever since.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Yeah, talk about working with a guy like him, because I've. I first remember seeing him in Sons of Anarchy.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: Oh, my.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: He was. I think he was the sheriff. I think he was. Character was like Sheriff Hale or something.
And obviously what he's gone on to do in the creator. The creator role of the Yellowstone universe, I mean, mayor of Kingstown is one of my favorite shows. Tulsa Kings 1. Like, I'm Landman, all of it. Like, I'm deep into that. That Taylor Sheridan universe as a. As a consumer. So what's it like getting to be around and call that. Call a guy like that a mentor and a friend?
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Man, they call it the Taylor verse.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: The Taylor verse. All right. I got it right, man.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: It. There. There's just certain people on this earth that have like an undeniable star factor to them and like just a boss energy. And he's one of them to me. I just look up to him for just his aura in general, but also he's a good person too. And I know this from working on his shows. This is the Road was the first show that I've worked on with his. And I'll talk about the second one later. But you can tell, you know, when you can tell that people are paid really well and what. Do what they love, like, yeah, that's. It's an unheard of concept in the industry, but like here, anything that's Taylor's is. All the employees are so happy. Everyone's so kind, everyone's so welcoming.
And on top of that, it's I don't know when that dude sleeps. He writes all of these shows.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And Ax has a. In them Accentum and has all these business. All the business deals going on and the Paramount stuff. And I mean, he's got, like, you said, like, how does he find hours?
5 minutes with a guy like that is hard to get.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Exactly. I think he's like a vampire because that dude's always writing. It is so just, like, fascinating to watch. And it's fascinating to talk to him one on one and like, hear how his brain works because his wheels are just turning all the time. And it's inspiring for someone like me because I'm a creative, you know, in a different way that he is. But the process is all the same. You know, inspiration strikes and you just gotta take it and run with it. But, yeah, he's. I can't say enough good things about him and the people that work with him. And for him, I mean, he. You just tell. He treats his people really well and that's what I'm about. So.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And you're someone that's from a different world than he is.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: Oh, it's crazy. But then also not really. He. I think he was born in North Carolina.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:19:02] Speaker A: I didn't know this, but yeah, he comes from kind of the same clothes that I'm cut from. And that's why it works.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: You know, cuz at first, when I first went into the road, I'm like, oh, God. Going to Holly. Weird. Here we go. I was like, I'm. I'm always a little bit afraid of, like, Hollywood and that whole scene. But I'm going to be real spoiled now because the only thing I've done in that world is Taylor Sheridan. So.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Right.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: I'm like, man, it'll be hard for me to do anything else. Yeah.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: And you were just out there, right?
[00:19:30] Speaker A: I was. I just wrapped filming on my second episode of Dutton Ranch, which is the Beth and Rip spin off.
I'm so excited.
God, they're like the best ever. That whole. The whole cast is so incredibly kind. I've got, like a bunch of songs on there, and I'm like, singing all of them. And like, Beth and Ripper, like, watching me and I'm singing and like, Ed Harris comes up and sings with me. It's crazy. It's gonna be so fun.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: So you're so. You're like the girl in the bar that's performing.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: I'm the bar singer.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: You're the bar singer. You're the House band.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Straight up. I am. It's so funny.
It's just so unbelievable to me. Even when I'm standing there, it's like unfathomable to think that, oh, these people that I see lit. I see Dutton or Yellowstone Ranch coffee in the grocery store, and those people are standing right in front of me watching me sing. Like, what is this?
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Are you doing cover songs on there?
[00:20:26] Speaker A: No, I'm doing my original songs and I did one cover. So I think I've got, as of right now, five originals on there and then I have one cover.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:20:34] Speaker A: Yeah. You're telling me it's still as I'm telling you right now, it's like hard to even believe.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: And you're still the. The. The redneck Meemaw, like living with all. With her, with her herd of animals, with your zoo at the house out east of town. Like, you're still you and you're getting to do all this crazy shit.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: It's so. Oh my God. You know, it's so funny.
I call my little house my little meemaw hobbit house.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: Yes. It's like, yeah, very much is. Can confirm.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: It's a little like hobbit house. There's trinkets everywhere. Like, that's just. You walk in that house and you know exactly who lives in there. Like, you're like, right.
What will never not be funny to me is like anything that Taylor gets me for, he'll send a car to pick me up to bring me to the airport. And he like, oh my God, it's like the best boyfriend I've ever had. It'll send everything and take care of everything I gotta do.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: Standards have gone. I'm like, young lady, I'm like, these
[00:21:31] Speaker A: crusty dusties don't stand a chance now.
Because what's never not funny to me is like a blacked out Escalade coming up to my little crack house. Meemaw Hobbit home. Yeah. In the middle of the day, I
[00:21:45] Speaker B: didn't even think about this tiny town.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: And my neighbors are just probably looking out like, what is that? And it's a blacked out Escalade coming to bit me. And I just get up in there with my little raggedy suitcase. And then I come back and the same car brings me back and like, there's some guy in a suit, like, helping me get on the thing.
He's like, pull it up. He's like, is this where you live? I'm like, yeah, that's wild. So it's really funny to Me?
[00:22:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Now leading into the road and the crazy part of what was your second half real? I mean, really, your whole year of 2025 just was bonkers. You seem to have really figured out the social media thing and showcasing who the hell Cassidy Daniels is, not only as a songwriter, as an artist, but as like the best friend that somebody could have. Oh, my God, talk about learning how to do those. Do those bits and your meemaw stuff and your witchy stuff and getting to be opinionated and voice yourself and having that vulnerability to showcase yourself in front of sometimes millions of people per video.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I really enjoyed it at first. You know, it was kind of just a shot in the dark type thing that every artist tries to do, I think. I mean, I look at all my artist friends now and there's a point that you can always see almost when you go back on their Instagrams and you see like, these random ass videos are like, well, that.
What was that from? And then it's got like a shit ton of views and stuff.
It's been so funny because a lot of times I've just really been looking for a viral moment just to gain a following. That's what it started out with. It's like, okay, if I post consistently and find like a little niche, the followers are gonna come with that. What I didn't realize is that not all of those followers from all of those niches are going to align with your music also.
So I had a video of me getting in a waymo for the first time. It got like over like 5 million views or something stupid. And it was literally just me getting in this, like, driverless waymo. And I was like, what the hell is this? Like, being a redneck per usual? Yeah, that shit goes mega viral. And all these people, like, don't really think to follow off of something like that. So, yeah, I might have gotten a great big smash viral video, but it didn't really do anything for my music. So what I've learned really this year is how to narrow it to the people that want to find my music and then eventually that want to support it too. And the road helped that so much because we got all this professional content for our socials to push the show with.
And that was a big selling point of doing the show too, because for me, I didn't really have a lot of shows going on. And even when you have shows going on, we all know how expensive it is to get a content guy out there to come shoot for you.
But the road kind of did it for free. And it was like the best of the best. So we just really got good about posting it. And the most important thing is engaging with people too. You can't just post it and ghost it. Which sucks because sometimes I want to, because sometimes the comments are brutal.
But you gotta engage, so it keeps driving it. Especially after like that first hour or two of posting.
[00:24:52] Speaker B: What was the first video where you were like, oh, this is starting to. Was it. Was it like the crystals? Was it one of your meemaw rants?
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Probably Meemaw fall. Meemaw fall like blew up.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Meemaw fall was big. Now, was that 24 or 25?
[00:25:05] Speaker A: I don't remember. I think 24. It was 24.
And I didn't do it because there, there comes a time too where I was like, I don't want to pigeonhole myself into like the comedy comedian route and not have anyone give a shit about my music.
So I stopped doing it for a while and then I missed it because I just like yapping and like talking. I mean, all my followers, I'm so happy that they're there. I want to yap with them. If I could yap with all of them, I would.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: But I try to just keep it general and, you know, just spread positivity, spread. Do something funny, man. People gotta laugh. This world's so screwed up right now.
[00:25:41] Speaker B: I agree. I agree 100%. But I think especially with like showing people who you really are, a lot of your music reflects that as well. Like, trailer reflects that, you know, like heart shaped necklace reflects that white mustang that reflects that, you know, And I'm sure all this new batch that we'll talk about here in a sec will reflect that too. But I feel like there is something because you're making music for the people that come from where you come from and yeah, people that want to. People that'll. You make them smile or you make them cry.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: Like the music, you know, at the end of the day, I'm doing nothing but creating. It doesn't even matter what I'm creating. I'm creating something for my people that I love. You know, Like, I think the road brought me, my people, everyone that you know, saw me on the road, that really resonated with me, found me on socials and that's been so helpful and it's been such a blessing.
But for a while, just because it's so hard and it takes so long to get music out, I just needed something to kind of hold them over.
So I was just Posting all these silly videos and just fun. I was like, let's just make them laugh till we can make them cry with the music.
[00:26:50] Speaker B: Tell me about these crystals.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: Which ones just.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: Are there multiple variety.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: They're always. I'm like, I don't have any. Right?
[00:26:58] Speaker B: I don't think. Yeah, I don't think.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: I don't think you brought any with you. I didn't ask you to bring any with you.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: But, like, I usually have them in my bra.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: How do they.
Because that's something, like, you talk about, like, your little witchy, like, hobbit house or whatever.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: But, like, what. What do they.
I don't. I honestly, I'm generally asking, like, the crystal thing, like, because I know it's something that you're into and a lot of people are into.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: For me, I think there was a time in my life where it started as, like, a frequency that vibrates and everything on earth emits a frequency and that frequency, you know, have you ever heard the thing about, like, 432 hertz, how that's, like, the peaceful frequency for music?
[00:27:36] Speaker B: I don't think so.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: Okay. So there's this whole scientific study on how the frequency.
Different frequencies affect the human brain.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: Okay, makes sense.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: There was at one point where all of the instruments were tuned to a certain frequency that, you know, was like, sounded like just love and peace and happiness and music.
And then there's a conspiracy theory that in a lot of hip hop music, there's certain things tuned to a certain frequency that, like, you know, makes you want to rage. Makes you want to, like, you know, be rock and roll and go f. CK shit up.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: And I think that stuff is so powerful to me. With the crystals, I just was like, each of these supposedly emits a frequency. And this was honestly back in a time where I was really searching, Doing some soul searching.
I've always been a Christian. I still am.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Very much.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: My God, have I had my spiritual struggles.
And I got kind of, like, confused. There's a verse in the Bible that says, even the rocks will cry out his name. So I'm like, rocks will cry out? Okay. Crystals emit a positive frequency. Maybe they're correlated in a way. But really how it ended up in a very simple ending was just. I know this one's supposed to be for confidence. Carnelian's supposed to be for confidence. Cool. I'm gonna bring it with me. And every time I look at it, I'm gonna remember to be confident. Or, you know, there's pyrite, which is supposed to bring money and abundance. Nah. Every time I look at it now, whether the rock does something or not, I just think of it and manifest it and just assume it's already happened. And sometimes it does if it's supposed to.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like a spiritual vitamin.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like a little. It's like a little talisman like, that I can just look at and be like, okay, cool, we're cool. But I'm also, as much as. I don't seem like a creature of habit, I've learned recently that I am.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Oh, you definitely are. Yeah, I've known that since I met you, girl.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: See, and I never thought I was because I'm so moving around all the time. But the things that I do every single day, I always light incense every single day. I always lay out my crystals of the day that I want to set my intention for the day with every day. And I mean, it doesn't matter where I do that. I'll just always do it. So that's what I've learned over this year.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: It's so important to have a routine even when you're on the road and you're going through all the craziness. I remember touring and I had my routine of even what I would get at loves at 3 o' clock in the morning in the damn bandwagon like you. It's. It helps to have that, especially with the crazy lives that we live being in this music world. Like, yeah, so many people get up and have like a 9 to 5, which is great. It's great for people that want to do that, but for us, where it's very sporadic. Yeah, you got to try to have as much continuity as possible.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: Continuity is exactly right. Like, and I feel like I learned that a lot on the road on the show because, I mean, we were out for 11 weeks and we were long time. Hotel to hotel and hotel. I mean, I didn't think I was going to be out there that long because I thought I was going to go home. But lo and behold, here we were.
I mean, I just. Yeah, I figured out all these, like, little hacks just to like, keep my sanity. Like little coffee pastry combo in the morning. Goes so hard for your serotonin. Yeah, I would go on a thrift store on like, our dark days were always Saturdays. So I'm gonna go to the local thrift store. Yeah, I'm gonna do that.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Did you get some good finds when you were out there?
[00:30:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I found so many good things. It was so fun.
I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but I'm going to it. So, like, the crew wasn't supposed to fraternize with the talent, but of course, you know me, I went out drinking with everybody. I went and did everything.
[00:31:10] Speaker B: Fraternize with everyone.
[00:31:11] Speaker A: I fraternized it.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: The person checking the tickets at whatever venue you were at knew who you were or knew your voice from going over, introducing yourself. Yeah, it's just what a Cassidy does.
[00:31:21] Speaker A: I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm all, I'm gonna holler at people. But I used to go. So the stylists that work on the road, I got so close with them. They're the sweetest ladies ever. Shout out Susie and Tiffany. But we went thrifting, and it was so fun, and they found me so many good things. And honestly, they helped me really narrow down my style, too, because God knows that style has been a struggle for me.
And, yeah, it was fun. We had a great time. I had my little habits that I did and who I did it with. And it was this year I learned a lot about who I am as a person.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it seems like it was a big year of growth for you.
[00:31:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: Like, it really was.
[00:31:58] Speaker A: It had to be. There was no option. What was I gonna do, revert? You know, it's like you just gotta keep moving forward, and I ain't getting no younger.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: Yeah, no, you're. You're in a great. You're in a great freaking spot. How do you keep your mentals in a good spot? Because, like, you talked about, like. And I've known you through a lot of it, where it's like you have ups and downs being in music or just life. It's like an ocean where there's a big wave and then there's a little wave, and then you think the wave is going to hit the beach, and then it doesn't. Like, there's so much like, how do you keep positive and keep the hope for now, where you're at? Think about where you were, like, two, three years ago.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: I say a prayer and take my meds, I guess.
I mean, no, truly, God has been just such a big part of my life. From the jump.
I just kind of come to the conclusion that whatever he has planned for me will not. Not happen no matter what I do. I mean, because I've gotten to the point, I feel like, where my relationship with God is just so crystal clear in communication. Like, I know at this Point. And some people might call it a gut feeling for me, I know that it's very divine.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Anointed for me. And really, I mean, I just, I talk to him all the time. I'm like a. Probably like a schizophrenic if people could hear my thoughts.
But like, I genuinely ask. You don't ask. You don't know until you ask. And you know, if I'm going into a business deal or a show that I'm, you know, not sure about, I literally just, you know, say a prayer about it and set my intention and kind of just wait for the answer to come. And it always, always, always does. It always works itself out.
And knowing that I've got that kind of dialed in really helps my psyche a lot. Now, it ain't perfect. I'm still a psychopath. Like I have my little manic meemaw episodes. Like, don't you worry.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Ye.
[00:33:47] Speaker A: I mean, it's just not as detrimental as they could be. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. I could see me being a Britney Spears bald headed with the umbrella too. So who knows?
[00:33:55] Speaker B: I don't see that you got a good enough support system. Nikki T. And I included in that.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: Y' all be like, don't let her.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: You would. That wouldn't happen now. You've been out and gone, bouncing around Texas and la. You were back here. You've been back here in town for a while. Did I see you were hanging out with old crazy Wild Greg at the midget wrestling? What was that two weeks ago?
[00:34:16] Speaker A: Oh my God, no.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: Did you end up going to the midget wrest?
[00:34:18] Speaker A: Did go to micro wrestling.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: That was micro wrestling. Excuse me. Micro wrestling. I'm sorry to my man 25 cent. I apologize. It is micro wrestling. 25. You know who I'm talking about. You know who I'm talking about. I met him at Pig Fest this year in Hendersonville.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: I. I'm such a fan of Micro wrestling. Okay, so y', all, for those who don't know, it's the Micro Wrestling Federation.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: And I love them so much.
So we were there when Pinky and Psycho got engaged.
[00:34:49] Speaker B: Wow. Big moment.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: We were there for that.
We were. When we went to Micro Wrestling when it was here at the fairgrounds.
[00:34:55] Speaker B: I didn't go to that.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: I was there.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: That was a Nikki T. Adventure.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Nikki T. Adventure. Okay. Yeah.
[00:35:01] Speaker B: I think Will might have been with you.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: I texted them the other night when I went and I was like thinking of y' all heart and that's what I'm a picture. It was like Micro Jackson pile driving somebody. Yeah. But it's my favorite thing ever. They're truly, like, athletes. Sometimes I'm like, damn, y' all are like, crazy. And shout out to Wild Greg and Little Bit for getting us in.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: A Little Bit.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: I have yet to meet Little Bit.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: Dude, she's bad. I love her. I bought, like. I spent like, 180 in merch, and I.
I just got a new business manager, too.
So the first things that they're gonna see on my statement is the micro wrestling federation. $180.
Like, damn it, Cassidy. But, yeah, support Micro Wrestling.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: It looked like it was. It looked like it was a good crowd there, too. It was like, Cahoots goes nuts for that dude.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: And it's not far from my house, too. Little did I know my sister is like a consistent hood rat at Cahoots in Lebanon.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Oh, no, Peanut, what are you doing? Peanut?
She's all grown up now. If she's hanging out there.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. She's like, being a hood rat. So it was fun. It was like, honestly, her at Cahoots is the equivalent to me at the Rusty Nail.
[00:36:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: And we walked in, I got drunk, and I forgot my card. And at that place they hold your card. Yeah, they don't give it back to you. So the next morning or the next day, I walked in and I was like, sorry, y'. All. The Micros got me. And they were like.
I was like, well, I had a great time.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: I think Cliffy D was there too, right?
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Was he for real? I didn't.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: I think he was D. I think he was DJing after something.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: Seen him. Like I said, I was laser focused on the actual part.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Did you go to those when you were in Florida or that? Is that a Nashville? That's been a thing since you've been up here?
[00:36:47] Speaker A: I wasn't old enough to get in ever, so I guess it's kind of a just. And who. Who out of my friend group in Florida would want to go to that?
[00:36:54] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know your friends. I don't know your Florida.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: I got one friend that would go shout out Carly. She would want to go. Actually, she may not want to. My best friend. I would make her go and then she would love it. Yeah, but not like, it's all who you go with on stuff like that. Like, I can make anything fun.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: You can.
[00:37:10] Speaker A: Like, if you can, but that you ain't got to do nothing. Like, literally, we was just hooting and Hollering and supporting the athletes. And I was, like, posting. I still got to post about it. Like, Shout Out. Love Micro Wrestling Federation.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: I see a music video in the future. I don't know what song it'll be.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Me neither.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: But the Micros will be involved.
[00:37:30] Speaker A: It could be called Little Things.
[00:37:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
So talking about the new music. Moving on, you were. You've. You've. How have you balanced the schedule here lately? Because I'm. I'm glad that I've got you in here. I knew. I know we've been work. We've been trying. We've been working on trying to find a date and a time in the calendar that works for you to be on here. Because you're not in Nashville like you used to be. You're all over the map. So talk about being in Texas as much as you have. And then the trips to Holly. Weird. Becoming, like a spot that you're frequenting now.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: I never in a million years thought that I would be as much as I am, because I think people move to Nashville and they think, okay, it's the end all be all you hear.
[00:38:11] Speaker B: And then I'll go. I'll go travel on the weekends and play shows.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: Exactly.
But I just. I started to realize from the road, from all the cities that we went to, there's so much good music to be discovered and created in places other than Nashville. And Nashville is the end all be all for, you know, the best players in one place and the best songwriters in one place and, you know, all the industry that is here. But, like, this weekend, I had the privilege to go to H5 Ranch out in Round Mountain, Texas, which is outside of Austin.
And this place was like how music was supposed to be created.
Like, they had just this beautiful Texas hill country scenery. It's out in the middle of nowhere. You can walk for, like a mile and still be on their huge property. There's longhorns walking around everywhere. It's, like, sunny and beautiful and just, like, awesome. And I wrote five songs in one day out there because that's how music's supposed to be created. In a pretty place with people you love and not in a tiny little office space with really bright, like, liminal light just, like, sucking the life out of you. I mean, you can make songs like that and create great music that way. I've created a lot of my favorite songs that way. But there's something different about being somewhere like Texas or la, you know, maybe it's just me because I get seasonal depressy real bad from Growing up in Florida. And I mean, what. This past week when I was there, it was like the tundra here in Nashville. So I was like, why do I have to go home? Because it was, like, 70 degrees and beautiful out there. But, yeah, there's. I've spent a lot of time in Texas, and really, that's from working on Dutton Ranch, too. They film outside of Dallas for the most part, so I've stayed in Dallas a lot. I've stayed in Fort Worth a lot.
I'm starting to dip my toes into Austin because there's a lot of my favorite bands right now are from out there, so it's just cool as shit. And LA kinda is becoming one of those places for me that I'm finding a lot of work to do. And I really like that because, one, I just love meeting people and having friends everywhere. But I feel like, like, in Nashville, everyone kind of already, they're like, oh, Cassidy Daniels, she's been here forever.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: You've been here, like, 10 years now, right?
[00:40:28] Speaker A: I've been here forever, and I feel like la. They're like, oh, who's this Cassidy Daniels girl? Yeah. And it's just. It's fun because it's like, y' all don't know how crazy I am yet.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. What's the work been like out there? You were talking about recording, right?
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Yeah, so I. The first thing I did out there is I did a little cover of a song. I won't release it yet because I don't. I don't know when it's supposed to come out, but here's a hint. I did a Dolly Parton song for Red Bull, and Red Bull has become an integral part of my whole career at this point.
They found me through the road.
And the final three of the road won a $50,000 recording budget at Red Bull Studios in Santa Monica. One more brag on Gretchen Wilson. People don't know this. I think she got that $50,000 too. Just as a thank you for being a part of the show. She gave it to Brittany Kellogg because Brittany was, like, the fourth person.
Gretchen gifted it to her. And I'm like, so cool. Queen energy.
But, yeah, Red Bull sent us all this big budget to go record songs in, and I was like, shit, let's get it done. So we went out to Santa Monica, and this past week, I cut six of my originals.
I didn't even think we was gonna get to five. So I was elated that we got to six, and John Osborne produced them, and John O found me on The Road. You know, on the second to last episode in Nashville, he heard me sing my song, what have I Got to Lose? And we got in a riot. And he was like, well, do you have a producer? And I was like, no, do you want to be?
And my team really just worked it in and got with him and got him on board, and. Yeah, I couldn't do all this without my team. Dude, dude, you asked how I'm, like, keeping track of this schedule, literally. Kate Shirley in Scott Bonds. That's it.
They do everything for me because they just make sure that I'm. My only job is to show up, look good, and make good music.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: Yes. And you got a booking agency now?
[00:42:32] Speaker A: I have a fancy, fancy booking agent. I'm so tickled about it.
Yeah.
Jay Williams picked me up, and Beth Hamilton, and it has been awesome so far. I mean, I've gotten. I've only gotten a few show offers yet, because it's, like, a very, very new thing. Yeah, but they're so.
No one ever says this, but I'm gonna say they are so easy to work with.
Like, usually booking agents are the opposite, but these guys really want me to play shows because they know that I will go crazy if I don't, and they want me to make money, which is.
I make money doing music. What? Like, crazy.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And think about all the shows that you've booked for yourself.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:43:13] Speaker B: Over the last 10 to 12 years, and now to have somebody in your corner that's actively going to do that and seek out opportunities for you and pick up phone when folks all over the country, all over the world want
[00:43:25] Speaker A: to hear you play someone as established as they are, too. It's huge because, like, now the team is, you know, Liz Rose music and Jay Williams and Beth at WME and John Osborne producing.
And, like, that team alone is just. And Taylor Sheridan in my corner, too, is, like, insane. I. It doesn't feel real as the words are coming out of my mouth to tell you.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: We all knew it was gonna happen at some point. Honestly, Nick, think I've been saying that to you for years, homie. Like, that it was gonna happen. This is great that I think it was gonna happen this way. No, I. Probably. If I. I wish I had bet on it. One of those Calci things where you can just bet on life. Bet on life events now. It's crazy for all the general gamblers out there, but, like. But no, it's. We. We knew you were gonna. It was gonna happen at some point, you know, just. It's been bubbling up for a long time.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and I didn't really think it was gonna be all this fading too.
[00:44:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Like once it get like, like Luke Combs says and Jordan Walker says, when it rains, it pours. It started dripping and then we're just stuck in a monsoon right now and it's coming down.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: I mean, it's great. It's everything I've ever wanted. And now it's just like my team has locked into place. Everything just clicked for everybody all at once.
And I mean, it's like a well oiled machine at this point. I'm gonna, I'm excited to see how the shows are gonna be coming up in the season spring.
I'm playing a lot of big shows. I've got Hondo coming up in New Orleans, which I've never been to New Orleans. I'm going to Mardi Gras this weekend, so I'm gonna test the waters.
[00:44:59] Speaker B: Boy, the content is going to be elite.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: I may not. I may have to put them away because ain't no telling what I'll be doing. I might have to be like, so
[00:45:10] Speaker B: New Orleans is a spooky place. So make sure you're. You're decked up in your Christmas.
[00:45:14] Speaker A: I'm already like, I'm kind of tripping because I've heard of people going down there and like people getting like cursed and I'm like, what the hell?
[00:45:21] Speaker B: That's where the voodoo stuff exists. Yeah, they sell voodoo dolls at the airport.
[00:45:26] Speaker A: Sick.
[00:45:26] Speaker B: It's wild.
[00:45:28] Speaker A: I mean, I think that stuff's cool.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: Oh, no, no. Yeah, it is. It is cool.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: I not mess with it, but it's cool.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: You're de. You're gonna come back with a whole voodoo doll collection.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: I'm be like, hey, want to buy voodoo doll?
[00:45:40] Speaker B: You're gonna be the plug in town.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. No, I mean, excited. Yeah. So I'm playing at Hondo in New Orleans and get this. It's gonna be so fun. So I'm playing outside. I think I'm opening for Neil McCoy. I think it is nice. And I'm singing the anthem at the rodeo and then Skynyrd's playing. Oh, Skynyrd. People may not know Skynyrd. Like, Johnny Van Zant helped me get into music. Like he was a huge mentor to me when I was really young.
And I texted him, I was like, hey, jvz, I'm gonna be at Hondo New Orleans. And he's like, immediately hits me back. He's like, let me know when you Are. It'd be so good to see you. Maybe we'll come out, watch your set. And I'm like, I would die if I was on stage. And there's, like, Skynyrd side stage watching me in Revelry play. I'm like, this will be crazy. So we're debuting all new songs. We're debuting my friends, Revelry. They're gonna be. Be my badass band.
[00:46:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: And, dude, it's gonna be just baller. I'm so excited for it.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: Yeah. That's gonna be sick. When is that?
[00:46:44] Speaker A: That's gonna be April, I think early April. April 10th, maybe. But, yeah, I've got those shows. I've got, like, some great festivals and, like, places in Florida. I'm playing.
I'm looking forward to getting out on the road and living, like, my best Fleetwood Mac ass dreams. Like, just, like, touring with my band. I'm not going to sleep with none of them or nothing, but just touring with my band, having a good time.
[00:47:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And talk about the Revelry guys, because they're. They are your. Your brothers. They're guys that have looked out for you downtown, that have looked out for you and played with you and been there for what seems like most of the steps that you've gone through over the past few years.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. I love them. So I started off as a fan. The first time I saw them was at Raised Reality back when we were at Losers.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:31] Speaker A: And I remember seeing them all walk in, and I was like, who the hell that I was? Like, who is that? Because they just look like they come straight out of 1981, you know, like, they're just long haired. Like, they look very skynyrdesque.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:48] Speaker A: And I just. I'm a fan of their music. Zach's voice is one of my favorite male voices in town. It's like a redneck Bob Seger. It's my favorite thing in the world.
And really, the whole band has been champions of mine. Like, they. I love playing shows with them. We drove 12 hours to go play a show in Detroit, and we drove 12 hours back the same night. So I know I can be on the road with them. And the majority of it is I'm just a fan of them. And they love me. I love them.
So why would we not make music together on the road, you know? It's gonna be great. So they've got some really cool stuff coming up on their own too this year, so you may see me singing with them a little bit, and they'll be Playing for me a little bit. And it's just gonna. We're trying to do, like, the Ronstadt Eagles thing, man. Like. Yeah, just help each other. What's good for the goose is good for the gander type thing.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: Good for the goose is good for the gander. I like that.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: What's good for the gander is good for the goose. What is it?
[00:48:46] Speaker B: I've. I've never heard of either of those.
[00:48:49] Speaker A: I think it's a goose.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: You're getting. You're getting meemaw on me, right?
Another thing I wanted to touch on. Talk about growing up, as in that. In that army brat family and, like, the traveling that you did and like the upbringing that you had and just how supportive your parents have been and you watching what your dad did as you were growing up and now to. They've got to be elated to see you living your dream right now.
[00:49:16] Speaker A: My parents are my biggest supporters, and they're also my biggest critics.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Yeah, well, someone's got to keep you in line.
[00:49:22] Speaker A: I'm so glad I have my family, too, because, like, I have, like, one little thing happen and I'll, like, be some type. Like, okay, so the car coming to pick me up in my house, the blacked out Escalade, I'm like, I'm getting in my car. My sister will be like, all right, Hollywood.
They keep me grounded. And it's incredible.
Growing up, army was really such a God thing in my life. Like, you couldn't have bred a more perfect lifestyle for a future musician because, like, I can sleep anywhere, I can live anywhere, I can be happy anywhere. Because you had to. If I can be happy at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, I can be happy anywhere.
And I've loved Fort Campbell. So, I mean. I mean, just. I think the discipline aspect that comes with being an army brat and the hard work that you witness all around you all the time is something that I will never, ever, ever take for granted, because that takes all the grit that you need to be in the music industry. And it was really spoon fed to me with army propaganda growing up. So, I mean, it worked really well to my favor. The army was really good to us. I'm so proud of my parents, too. Like, my dad was special Forces and my mom was a child abuse sex crimes detective.
So ask me how my dating life is, so. But I mean, having two badass parents, like, that is so good. Like, you can't. There's nothing I could say where my parents would be like, oh, poor baby. Ever. Yeah, they'd be like, I Was in the trenches in Grenada at 83. And I was like, damn, I can't complain about the hoarders at my.
At my green room, you know?
[00:51:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:08] Speaker A: So it's good. They keep me grounded. They are my biggest supporters and they're so proud too. It's been so fun.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: As they should be. We're all proud of you.
Now, what are the big goals for this year? I know the show. The show's looking like it's coming out in the spring.
[00:51:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. So Dutton Ranch. Yeah. Coming out, I think may.
Who knows?
[00:51:28] Speaker B: Somewhere, sometime this year. Yeah.
[00:51:31] Speaker A: That's gonna be crazy. I think I'm on the first and the second episode.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: So it's so fun. And then to be determined, I guess.
I've got shows coming up. My goal this year just for, like, me personally, is just to really lock in my live show.
It's a different ball game now because I'm not playing like little stages around town anymore. I'm not playing like. I mean, I guess I kind of locked in. It was really easy to lock in on the road because that band was like insane. And we also only had like a minute and 30 seconds to do so.
So there wasn't really much to learn, you know, so doing like hour long, 30 minute sets, whatever, I just really want to lock in and streamline it. And new music. That's the biggest thing.
[00:52:17] Speaker B: When are we.
[00:52:18] Speaker A: When.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: When can we expect that? Because last song we got from you was trailer.
[00:52:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: A lot has happened since you were recording that song and then putting that out. So when are we thinking.
[00:52:29] Speaker A: I. I'm trying to drop an album.
I.
There's gonna be singles that come before the album, but for me, the end goal is the Cassidy Daniels album.
And really, I mean, I don't even have an answer. I think it's gonna be within the second quarter of the year. Will be the first single. But I'm just coming from a place now where I'm hearing everything that we recorded this week and I'm like, what's gonna be the first single single? It's all so good now.
[00:52:59] Speaker B: You're with your voice and your vibe and like kind of the world that you've lived in musically, you live in so many different boxes. So what are we thinking this. Is this album gonna be a little bit of a taste of all of it, or is it more in that blues, more in that Southern rock, more in that mainstream? Because you can fit in so many different boxes. That's always been one of our favorite things about you. So Kind of tee it up for me a little.
[00:53:24] Speaker A: There's what I could say. There's truly nothing like it. There is nothing for me to even compare it to. Like, at first I was like, okay, it's kind of giving like a Whiskey Myers Black Crows thing.
But now it's giving, like. It's got some hints of, like, Carter Faith in there. It's got some hints of Ashley McBride in there. Like, there. There's literally nothing to compare it to because it's gritty, it's me, it's bluesy, but it's country is cornbread, too. And I mean, it's rockin. It's never not gonna be rockin'. I mean, it's just there's.
It's hints of everything but can be compared to nothing out there. So everything will sound familiar, but you're not gonna be able to, like, put your finger on it.
[00:54:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:10] Speaker A: You're gonna be like, that's kind of sound like, what have I got to lose? Sounds like the who at the beginning.
[00:54:15] Speaker B: Yeah. What's. What's John. What's John O like in the studio?
[00:54:18] Speaker A: Oh, he's the best.
[00:54:19] Speaker B: He's somebo buddy. I remember growing up, going to concerts, like, going and seeing him and TJ doing shows. Like, he's. He's a. A legend.
[00:54:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he is the best. The first time I met Jono, I sat outside, I. I got hooked up to do a ride. Not the first time I met him, the first right that I had with him, because I met him for the first time on the road and the first time I wrote with him. After the road, I showed up at his studio, Pine Box here in Nashville, and I heard him inside playing guitar. And anyone that don't know this, Jono's like, one of the best guitar players just ripping. Oh, my God.
And I showed up the studio, I hear him playing guitar through the door, and I'm like, oh, he's just like. He's practicing. Cool. Like, I'll just let him do his thing. When he stops, you know, or hits a wrong note, you know, I'll knock. I stood there for, like, 17 minutes because that dude just, like, solo didn't miss a note the entire time. And, like, every time he, like, kind of stopped, I'd be like, go to knock. And he'd be like, it was so funny. And I was like, you probably saw me on the ring camera like this, like, oh, my God.
But, yeah, he's one of the best. And in the studio, oh, my God. I've never had a Man in the industry. There's my phone. I've never had a man in the industry listen to me as a producer the way that he does, really. And that probably doesn't sound like much to him. Like, you know, if I were to say that, whatever. But it's everything to me. Because there was a period of time, you know, where I was writing with Lori McKenna recently and the Love Junkies, I was writing with Lori, Liz and Hillary, and I had this realization. I was talking about, you know, some demos and track guys in town and stuff, and I was like, you know, we're getting good songs lyrically, but, like, they just don't get what it needs to be. And they just don't. Laurie cut me off and she said, they don't listen to you, do they? And I was like, damn, if that's happening to Lori McKenna, of course it's gonna happen to me. And Jono just simply does not allow it. Like, he is so kind and so open to ideas. Like, if I put out an idea that he doesn't love, he'll be like, okay, I won't die on that hill. He's like, but I don't. You know, I don't know if it needs to be. He's like, let's try it and see what happens. And then, like, there was one point in the studio where I was like, hey, you know, let's put this here. And he was like, no, let's put it on all of the choruses. And so they put it on all the chorus, and it sounded better the way that I'd said it. So Jono stops the tape, says to the band, he goes, hey, guys, Cassidy was right. Let's do it in these spots only. And then he turns around to me and he says, hey, you were right. Let's do it this way. And just. That sounds like such a stupid thing to be, like, elated over, but to me, it's. It makes me feel so safe in a place where I'm putting my heart and soul and songs into birth, basically.
[00:57:01] Speaker B: I think that might be the artist part of him, where he's been.
I'm sure that's.
He remembers coming up and wanting to have a say and stuff. And.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: I mean, Jay Joyce.
[00:57:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, right, right.
[00:57:13] Speaker A: With Jay Joyce, I couldn't imagine. And, yeah, he's so kind. He's also. He's got kiddos, too. And his wife Lucy writes songs with me, and she's also a huge champion of mine. Like, the. It just shows. Kind people are kind everywhere. And to Me that matters the most.
Where it matters the most is in music and in creating these songs, especially these songs that the songs that people are about to hear on this record. If there was a how to Cassidy Daniels, it would be this record.
So that's why it's so important for me, for it to be me and for it to be, like, true and authentic to who I am. And he gets the vision. He got the vision like that when we first collaborated.
And the sound is so locked in now. And he's the best ever. I just love working with him.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: That's awesome. Now, thinking back to a few years ago there, obviously you've had. You've had, like, the ups and downs and. And figured this thing out. Think back to one of those downs. What some. What's something you would tell that girl in her little. In her little witchy hobbit house, little witchy redneck hobbit house that's down on herself and being like, damn, I've been in town so long, I've been grinding since I was 12. 12 years old.
[00:58:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:28] Speaker B: Is this gonna work? Knowing what you know now? What would you tell that girl if you could go back in time?
[00:58:34] Speaker A: I would tell her, it only works as long as you don't doubt that it's not gonna. So, like, you know, or maybe I didn't say that right. It only works if you don't doubt it. And, like, there was something about what Hardy said. He did a speech on either, like, CMAs or ACMs or something. And he had that little piece of paper, remember, he had, where the guy said, quit. Now he was saying something like, there is no plan.
And I was thinking about that, you know, this past week. I'm like, damn, dude, if this don't work, I'm really screwed because I don't know how to do nothing else. Like, I'm like, but there is no plan B. I would tell her, you know, if you have a little smidge of doubt, keep that shit buried down and don't let nobody see it, because if they do, they're gonna doubt the product. And on top of that, you know, just be steadfast, keep your head down and keep working. And always, I would probably say, never go against your gut again. Like, that was a big thing for me, a lesson that I had to learn on the road because I knew in my gut on that very last show not to do two rock songs at the rhyming. And I knew it. And I let other opinions talk me into it.
And that was the final Reminder that I needed to always, always, always go with your gut. And I never will, not ever again. And I'm gonna be insufferable about it.
Promise.
[00:59:49] Speaker B: You're the boss.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: You know, like crazy. But I mean, it's true. My guts never steered me wrong.
There's never been a time where I've gone against my gut and not regretted it.
So, yeah, I'd tell her, keep on.
Stick to your gut.
[01:00:07] Speaker B: Stick to your gut.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: Stick to your gut.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And you are. You are the CEO. You are the girl in the driver's seat. Like, you do. You do what you want to do. You know, know, like, it's important to have that realization.
[01:00:19] Speaker A: It's more rock and roll that way too. It is it really how music's supposed to be?
[01:00:23] Speaker B: Yes. 100. Well, it says, I appreciate you coming on here and hanging out. I'm glad we were finally able to do this.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: Yeah, me too.
[01:00:31] Speaker B: And I cannot wait for this new music to come out. I am so freaking ready, dude.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: I have to. I'll play you a little. A little smidge.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Please. Please do.
[01:00:41] Speaker A: Please do.
[01:00:42] Speaker B: Awesome. Well, y' all be sure to look up our girl, Cassidy Daniels. Be on the lookout. Dutton Ranch coming out at some point this year. Coming out looks like in the spring. And then be on the lookout for the new music that'll be coming. If you're looking for a great rodeo event to go to the Honda Rodeo going on in April down in New Orleans. And people can go to the website, I'm sure check out beyond the look. It's gonna be awesome to see all those tour dates just start filling in. And I can't wait to get out there and watch you in the revelry. Boys play shows.
[01:01:08] Speaker A: Y' all are always welcome.
[01:01:10] Speaker B: It's gonna be so full. So circle for Nikki T. And I'll see you crazy. It's gonna be freaking awesome.
[01:01:14] Speaker A: Well, thank you.
[01:01:15] Speaker B: Appreciate you, sis. Shout out to our friends from Surfside. Gonna send Cass home with an eight pack. No bubbles, no troubles. It is not a seltzer. It is a Surfside, damn it. Delicious vodka infused lemonade, iced tea, green tea. They got the the new flavor of lemonade, the blueberry lemonade coming out. All kinds of good stuff going on the Surfside world. And for more on us visit raise reality.com. for my girl Cass, I'm Matt Brill. This has been outside the round.
I ain't never been the kind for st in one place for too long I ain't never been the best at s.
I love you to a girl I love Only got a couple tricks up my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me if you really know me me you know I'm just a two trick pony but maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick pony,
[01:02:15] Speaker A: yeah.
