Aaron Raitiere & Jon Decious: Ratty Dishes, Kentucky Livin' & How To Write A Song in 30 Minutes!

[00:00:12] Speaker A: Come on. This is outside the round with Matt Barrel for raise Rowdy podcast. Well, I am honored to be joined by the ratty dishes today. To be joined by Mister Aaron Raytiere, John Deeshis. Fellas, you look good in the jerseys. And I want to know how the hell can I get one of those? Because I gotta. I gotta get on there. [00:00:34] Speaker B: All you gotta do is just get online and print you one up as far as I'm concerned. [00:00:38] Speaker A: We might have to do that. Dude, I love it, man. You boys both, both. And it's the Kentucky blues, which is very. [00:00:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, man. Go cats. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Where does ratty dishes come from, man? [00:00:50] Speaker B: It's John's idea. My old man's been doing all the single covers and everything, but all of our stuff's just this rat doing dishes. And my buddies will call me rat and his name gets messed up as dishes all the time. And then he's like, what if we're ratty dishes? Then my dad sends me this picture of this rat smoking a joint doing the dishes, you know, and that's stuck, you know, so we've been sneaking stuff out. So, you know, you can. You can find it if you look for it, but it's not gonna find you. It's just. It's just there. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Well, I'm definitely gonna be looking for it. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Yeah, look for it. Look it up. Ready? Dishes. [00:01:24] Speaker A: I love it, man. And I love that. I originally had this schedule with having Aaron coming in, but he's like, tshirts riding. I'm like, let's get t shirts on it, too. He's like, ratty dish. I'm like, fuck, yeah. [00:01:32] Speaker B: I was like, grab the jerseys, bro. We're going. We're going to hermitage. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:37] Speaker B: I was just like, man, I don't believe I've ever been to Hermitage. I mean, I've been there in my mind and on paper, but I don't think physically. Yeah, this is like, Andrew Jackson has his place up here. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's right around the corner from here. [00:01:50] Speaker B: That's surely there's a. When I. There's probably like a 20 year old kid named Andrew Jackson still living there. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sure. I would imagine so. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Drew, DJ. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah, DJ. DJ, for sure. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Drew Jackson. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Yes. Drew Jackson. Yeah, this spot's interesting. Cause it's like, technically hermit. It's kind. It's hermitage. Mount Julia. It's like, right around the corner. And it's technically, like, old hickory. So it's got like three different. Like, this is old hickory. Old hickory behind the tractor supply which is so on brand for raised rowdy. [00:02:17] Speaker B: You know, it's kind of convenient because I got to get a bearing cap and I need a spare tire from a boat trailer. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Oh. [00:02:22] Speaker B: And so I'm going to just kill two birds on the way out of here. I was like, bro, we are about to go to tractor supply, get this trailer. Problem solved. So anyway, thanks for having me behind the tractor supply list, dude, I'm dead. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Thanks for coming behind the tractor supply, bro. [00:02:38] Speaker B: This podcast is not sponsored by tractor supplies, but it totally should be. You should have them back here one day and be like, this is going on, and we're dragging people by your store anyway, so, like, if we get like, a tractor supply gift certificate to hand everybody like $10 or something, then we'll get them in your store and they'll buy something else. And then you just have this stack of $10 tractor supply gift certificates nobody uses and Christmas is covered. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Oh, bro, Christmas is so covered. Christmas is so covered. Yeah, we got surfside, we got crown head. Cigars is one of ours, too. Got those, those orca cups, those new orca cups for you guys. But baseball guys, I'm a big Yankees fan. I'm from New York. So I got Garrett Cole and I got Ron Giddry. Look at that. Look at that old mustache. [00:03:18] Speaker B: My dad's from New York. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:03:20] Speaker B: Strangely enough, yeah, New York City. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Oh, really? City. [00:03:24] Speaker B: Got born in Flushing. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Oh, it's queens. Yeah, that's the city. City. I was like, I was. It's funny cause down here I have to, like, claim New York City, but I'm like 30 minutes outside. So the city folks, the folks in New York City are like, you're from upstate, but the people in, like, Albany and Buffalo and, like, the real upstate are like, you're from New York City. So it's like that in between, I pretty much, I'm like, we were talking about the school field trips and stuff. [00:03:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:48] Speaker A: And it's like my school field trips were going to Broadway plays and going to Yankee games and like, mine was. [00:03:54] Speaker B: Like going to Broadway plays in the community center put on by the local rednecks at church. [00:04:01] Speaker C: We would go to. We would go to Shakertown. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Shakertown. Yeah, I went to Shakertown all the way through high school because you can go hiking there and good place to go. Disappear, wander around. You familiar with Shaker town and the Quakers and the Shakers? And it was just a whole. Yeah, there's bakers, but it's a whole different family. But, but I don't know much about them, but what is it? What is this song? If to be simple, tis a gift. To be free, tis a gift. You know that old song. How do you remember that? I just remember reading about field trips, bro. I got some of that in there. And they're making yarn and dyeing the yarn and making apple cider. And they're all still shearing the sheep, you know? [00:04:44] Speaker C: Like Amish. [00:04:45] Speaker A: Like Amish. That's what I was just gonna say. Like Amish, but even. [00:04:48] Speaker B: But even way more strict. I like, wow. Like, the men sit over here, and the women sit over here, and the men wear this, and women wear this and. But they're still kicking, though. So there's something to say for that, you know, if the thing. Something worked out about it, you know? Cause it's still around. But I don't know if that's tough for me. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Yeah. It's not for me either. [00:05:05] Speaker B: They got a cool place, though. And it's great apple cider. You should check it out. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Oh, I love apple cider. I'm into apples. Not as much as I should be. [00:05:11] Speaker B: But you could dump some surfside in the cider and it'd be pretty awesome. Apple cider. Vocate. [00:05:16] Speaker C: Speaking of tractor supply. So Aaron went and bought a bunch of chickens one time and put them in my bathtub. Trailer. Yeah. Duck. [00:05:23] Speaker B: We named them all Dale, after his dad. There was Dale Dale Junior, Dale Junior junior, Dale junior junior junior, Dale junior junior junior junior. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Just going down. [00:05:33] Speaker C: They all got killed by a coyote. [00:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Won it slowly. But they grew up. We have one last videos because John could hold one of the Dales. He could hold him. Hold him just like a baby. And we had a video. We were living in a single wide trailer up in pleasant view and could open the front door of the trailer and be like, dale and this duck would walk up. Come on in, peek in. He waddling. And like, when I pulled in the driveway, you know, way down the end of the driveway, the duck would come flying across the pond and would chase the car up the driveway like a dog, dude. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:03] Speaker B: And then. And then I got. I was having. I was getting a newspaper delivered on Sundays, and I wake up and go get the paper. And Carl the cat and Dale the duck. You see where we're going here? I think we named the air conditioner Alex the air conditioner. [00:06:14] Speaker A: Yes. [00:06:14] Speaker B: But Carl the cat and Dale the duck would follow me, and I would walk the duck and the cat down to get the paper. It's unreal. Like when you got a cat and a duck just walking right by. And they're bros, you know. [00:06:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Tractor supply. And you've been. Have you been there when they're selling ducks? Oh, it's a hard thing to walk away from. And John had a pond, and I didn't really think too hard about it. Like hell we got a pond. Let's get some ducks. And then we put them in the bathtub the first night. And the whole treasure smell like duck shit. Duck shit all over the place, like. Yep. And then we got the dog house, an old dog house from the neighbor and put heat lamps in it and got chicken wire. And we had doghouse for the. For the cat. [00:06:51] Speaker C: Yeah, well, but also for the duck. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Yeah, but it wound up being a cat house because the ducks got killed by the coyotes. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Did the cat and the ducks, did they, were they. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Cat'S still there. Carl the cat. We thought it was. We thought Carl was a boy. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Well, it was. Her name was Carleen Carter, the cat, but Carl for short. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought Carl was a boy, though. [00:07:15] Speaker C: Remember when she shit and puked all over my accent? [00:07:19] Speaker B: We got Carl off Craigslist. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Oh, Craigslist. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Well, so there was mice in the trailer. Like, fucking mice all in the trailer. And it's like, we need a cat. But John's allergic to cats, so it can't have the cat in the trailer. But John loved the cat, so he just pet the cat until he started sneezing every day. And then like, all right, you're done, Carl. You know, I'll talk to you tomorrow, you know. And. Yeah, so we got this cat, and I went up there, and Carl was named Snickers. And Snickers was in the basement of this lady's house. And she was sitting on the porsche, like, smoking a cig. And we rolled up in John's, like, little car about this big. And, hey, I'm like, is it you, the lady with the cat? And she's like, y'all here for Snickers? And I'm like, yeah. And all we had was a cardboard box. And, no, I didn't have that. That's all she had. Yeah, I went in and got it. Yeah, yeah, you sat out there, and I come out and this cardboard box was like, I got a cat in a cardboard box. And I never heard of some crazy shit. Put a cat in a cardboard box. And I sounded like a song. Like a cat in a cardboard box, buddy. That thing was bouncing around. And, man. Yeah, she busts out. We got her in the car, but she busts out of that box. So we kind of let her out, and she just pops up on the back. [00:08:33] Speaker A: She was pissed. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Yeah, we rolled down all the windows. I'm like, if she's jumping, I was like, she attack us or something? [00:08:41] Speaker A: You know? [00:08:41] Speaker C: Because you rode all the way back. Yeah, freaking out. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we had all. We were like, oh, she's still freaking throwing up and shitting. And then we'd never met Snickers before. And I was like, first off, you're getting a new name if you're hanging out here, you know? [00:08:56] Speaker C: She still doesn't like riding in cars. My brother Keith takes her across the road sometimes. She hates riding in the car. [00:09:03] Speaker B: She's just gonna walk. Yeah, yeah. It was unreal. And then she. And then she got out, and she was cool as hell. Yeah, yeah. We were sitting around a fire one day and out there, and one of your neighbors come up. I can't remember. And he's like, yeah, y'all see that cat over there? And we're like, yeah. And he goes, I ain't much for cats. And John's like, well, I'm not either, but if you touch that one, I'm gonna fucking kill you. [00:09:28] Speaker A: You're like, carl is my daughter. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Totally. And now Carl, like, she's on top of the cat. Anyway, right when we got that cat, there's dead mice everywhere, man. I mean, she's a mice did herder job. Yeah. Oh, gosh. She's leaving the heads and shit on the porch, and you're just like, oh, yeah, it was awesome. That cat is my dog, and that cat's his dog. Yeah. Cause then I took off and I check in on Carl, you know? Now Carl's running the show up there on her own. Nine times out of ten, holding it down. She looks good. [00:09:55] Speaker A: This is over on Murphy. Is this up and out in the country? [00:10:00] Speaker B: In the country, yeah, my house burned down probably, like, ten years ago, 2015, something like that. Yeah. Nine years ago in Sylvan park. Like, it was like 230 in the morning. And my house burned down. Then I took off with Anderson east selling t shirts for a little while, and I sucked at that. I was good at the selling part, but it's keeping the money part. Money. I couldn't manage the money. I can sell it, get the money. I just put it over. [00:10:28] Speaker C: How much money do you lose? [00:10:29] Speaker B: That time we stopped to pee on the. On the side of the road, and I lost, like, $900 out of my belt. And so I was on the road with his band for two months on t shirt he was. He was opening for Stergl Simpson. It was awesome. [00:10:41] Speaker C: On the matter. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Modern tour. [00:10:43] Speaker A: No. [00:10:44] Speaker B: And all those sound checks and everything is incredible. Like, it was like when it was all starting out, but, I mean, everybody's kind of a little unaware of what's happened when it's happening. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Right. Right now, who knows? But, um. So, yeah, the house burned down. I went on the thing. I came back, and I didn't really have a plan, you know, I just bought some underwear and a suitcase. And you start from there. It was pretty cool. Fresh start, shitty way to get it. But, like, you look back, they say, like, worse stuff happens. Sometimes the best thing. So John's living in this trailer up next to his folks house in pleasant view. He's like, hell, you can move in the trailer and it's a single wide, single wide trailer. You know, a little trailer. We moved up there and started writing half the ratty dishes stuff. Just accident, you know, by force. Just that. I'm like, well, I know where to go. So I lived in his trailer for eight months. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So, you guys, how far back do you guys go knowing each other? Do you guys grow up together in Kentucky or what's the May as well? [00:11:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, about 2010. [00:11:40] Speaker B: You go ahead. You tell that story pretty good. [00:11:43] Speaker C: So talking too much, 2010, and I get in to accepted to go to this songwriting thing out in Wyoming with this songwriter named Skip Ewing did it. And we're in this cowboy ranch in Dubois, which is like an hour and a half from Jackson Hole. It's September time, so it's kind of cold outside, and we're all sitting in this cowboy cabin with coats on. And there's this one older lady, like, significantly older lady, but still, like, pretty good looking in, like, this yoga gear with all this tight stuff on. And she's like, just. She would never really play song. [00:12:19] Speaker B: She's gonna love hearing this. Yeah. [00:12:21] Speaker C: And, like, she just. Anyways, so. So. And every time it would come to her to play a song, she would hold her phone up and play a voice memo. And we're like, oh, that's cool, but that's not you singing. Anyways, one day she says, my boyfriend's from Kentucky, and he drinks beer in the morning, too, and y'all should hang out and be best friends. And so, sure enough, she flew him to Jackson hole at the end of that week, and we just been hanging out ever since. [00:12:48] Speaker B: And we had breakfast, and he met my hot older girlfriend. [00:12:53] Speaker C: She is so cool. One of the sweetest people I ever met in my whole life. I thank her. [00:12:57] Speaker B: And I met her at the bluebird. Cause I was sleeping in my van in Murfreesboro at the time. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Oh, no shit. [00:13:02] Speaker B: And I just finished. I finished. It was by choice. I just finished school, and I was just figuring out what to do. I was telling everyone I was retired and just, like, smoking weed and playing guitar on the street. [00:13:10] Speaker A: I got through this college shit. [00:13:11] Speaker B: I got my papers, man. I'm a dog with papers, but I'm still a dog, you know? I got my papers, and I'd forgot. I tried out for the bluebird. Like, I stood in line with, what is it? Like, 100 people show up for those auditions on the street? I don't know if they still do them, but Bluebird's always been, as far as I know, on those places. Anybody can play. You can play. It's gonna take you a minute. So I did the audition. Then you get narrowed down to, like, the second round. Then you have to go on, like, a Sunday and play with 30 people. And then, you know. But eventually, the first time you get to play, they're like, congratulations. You get to play the bluebird a year and a half from now on this day. And I was like, oh. So I forgot about it. And I'm. But I told my mom. So mom called me one night, and she's like, good luck at the Bluebird. And I was sitting by a fire on a hill down off Halls Hill pike in Murfreesboro, like, right around MtSU. And I was like, well, shit, I'm playing the bluebird tonight. So took off. Had too many beers. So I said, I'm gonna sleep in the van at the bluebird. And I was on my way out, and she was. She was sitting there. The lady we're talking about sitting there on a date, I believe. And I just handed my phone number. I said, if this don't work out, you call that number right there. [00:14:23] Speaker A: Shoot her, shooter. [00:14:24] Speaker B: And she did. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we were together for a little while, you know? And that's how I met John, though, because it's crazy, you know, that I met this lady, and she, you know. [00:14:35] Speaker C: And this girl's got class, you know what I mean? So it was an odd pairing to begin with. [00:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:39] Speaker B: What are the odds? Yeah, she's older me. A lot older. Me. What are the odds? What are the odds that's gonna happen? [00:14:46] Speaker A: It happens. It happens like that. Dude, you just. [00:14:49] Speaker B: You got to meet the old lady. Your house has to burn down. [00:14:51] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:52] Speaker B: You know, in, like. If you're ever if this is gonna happen, then that's gotta happen. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Yeah. It's crazy to get to the ratty dishes. Yeah, that shit has to happen. [00:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:02] Speaker A: So how far apart are you guys from each other in Kentucky, like, where you grew up? Like, you guys in the same kind of generic area or other side. Okay. [00:15:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Hour and a half ish. 2 hours. [00:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:14] Speaker C: So I'm from south central Kentucky, and he's from, like, central. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Okay. From Danville. From Somerset, like Monticello. [00:15:21] Speaker C: But somerset is the only place nobody's ever heard of Somerset. But if you have heard of the. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Place, the master musicians festival is a good one. Y'all check that one out. If you're not in on that one, that's in Somerset. [00:15:31] Speaker C: Yep. Somerset was where we could go to the mall. Like, there was a thing in Somerset that you could do. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Yeah, we had to drive to Lexington and get blue jeans or whatever at that time. But now Danville went wet now, so, yeah, you can get everything myself. Liquor barn. It's at the Dillards. If it ain't the dillards, it's the roses. [00:15:50] Speaker C: Yep. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I was just in Katie's, Kentucky for a bachelor party this past weekend. Driving through those roads. Yeah, driving through those roads. Dude, there ain't nothing out there. There were armadillos out there, which makes sense now with armadillo shit. I get it now. It was like, what? I was like, why are you talking about these. These armadillos? But now I'm like, this. That area they had, like, in, like, the guest brochure or whatever, like, in the Airbnb. I was just stoned, like, reading it. I was like, oh, shit. This is the largest population of armadillos in the state of Kentucky. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Really? [00:16:20] Speaker A: And do you guys know dobro Chris? [00:16:22] Speaker B: No. [00:16:22] Speaker A: You know Chris. He used to live in the Ryan Nelson compound, the frat house over there. He's a Florida man, similar to him and Ryan cut from the same cloth. He decided to go run after the armadillo last night in the woods. He ended up not being able to get it because the tail was too short. But he was trying. He was like, I'm gonna buy back. And they got that leprosy stuff. [00:16:41] Speaker C: Yeah, they get you in the end, whether you might get them first, but. [00:16:46] Speaker B: They go get you last. [00:16:47] Speaker A: But we saw quite a few armadillos last. I'm like, okay, it all makes sense now. The armadillos of Kentucky. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Florida, man. That's funny, man. I live down in Florida for a little stint, and it's wild as hell down there. I lived in Lake Butler, like, around stark. [00:17:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:00] Speaker B: That's where the state penitentiary is. Oh. And there's like, signs on the street say, you know, do not pick up hitchhikers. Which I'm sure it's like that around any state penitentiary in any state. But the news is interesting down. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sure, bro. It's like the pete. It's like the old people of Walmart thing on the Internet. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just every article, though. I mean, yeah, you can't make the stuff up and I mean, Kentucky's pretty country, you know. [00:17:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Tennessee's pretty country. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, dude. [00:17:24] Speaker B: But there's some shit Florida's country. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Florida is a whole nother world of just people. It's just degeneracy at the highest level. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:17:32] Speaker A: Which I enjoy going down that we're going down the Florabama in a few weeks, which I love. [00:17:36] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Do I go down there for a few days and then come on back home? I don't know if I could live there, though. I don't know if I could live in Florida. [00:17:42] Speaker B: It's just hot. Morning thing. It's hot. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Do you ever have any hurricanes while that time you were down there? [00:17:46] Speaker B: Not while I was there, but. And I was inland, I like a hour and a half inland. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:52] Speaker B: So more like trips to Appalachicola. Like, that's the gulf, you know, I was kind of like probably an hour and a half from St. Augustine. Hour and a half from the gulf. Okay. It's cool. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude. I love all the ADHD stuff you're doing, by the way. [00:18:10] Speaker B: I mean, I'm an taste of it right now. [00:18:12] Speaker A: I feel like, bro, cuz I'm an ADHd kid. So, like, I grew up reading books about, like, being a kid with ADHD. [00:18:18] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. I was medicated at a very young age. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Mine wasn't. Mine's never been medicated. I just took the test and they're like, yeah, he's bat shit. You know, just let him roll kind of thing. And could have probably been slowed down. I've never had Adderall in my life or anything. I'm worried it would work and then I'd be focused on these sunglasses and that'd be all I could talk about. [00:18:38] Speaker A: You'd be get the tunnel vision. [00:18:39] Speaker B: I kind of like. I kind of like the everywhere kind of thing, dude. And also, that all started too, because nobody. I wrote a song with my old man called ADHD hypomanic. Alcoholic son of a bitch. [00:18:50] Speaker A: Wow. [00:18:50] Speaker B: And then at the same time, I kind of just got tired of saying, right here, right here, it's a nightmare. Tongue twister of last name. Nobody can remember it. So I just quit saying my name. And I'd say, if you like what you heard and you want to hear more, you just want to help me down the road and buy a hat with an armadillo on it. ADHD, cool. Which is which cool is now an actual web address. So. And that just goes to my website and you can, you can just go from there. So you remember that? Yeah, ADHD, cool. You know, and that's it. But the ADHD thing is, it's strangely relatable. You know? For a minute, you're like bouncing all over the place, and then the guy next to you is two and the person over here is two and nobody can communicate at all. And it's like, well, high five. None of this makes any damn sense at all, but we got where we're going. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I was on medication from a young age, dude. I think that led to my. I was on Concerta and then the Ritalin and then the fucking Vyvanse this. All these different names and stuff. I was born in 95, so, like, that age, they were just throw. [00:19:52] Speaker B: Cranking it at two thousands, bro. [00:19:54] Speaker A: There was like the war on drugs, but it was like, hey, give. [00:19:56] Speaker B: Now you just get an iPad. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Yeah, give drugs. Yeah, now they just give you the iPad. [00:20:01] Speaker B: My screen, that'll zone. [00:20:02] Speaker A: And they'll just sit there, rock, rock their eyes out. Nobody's reading books and shit. [00:20:06] Speaker B: That's all right. [00:20:07] Speaker A: I'm sure you guys still read books quite a bit, right? [00:20:09] Speaker B: I got to. I just, I got to read books, so. [00:20:11] Speaker A: No, you read. [00:20:12] Speaker B: It's more like, for me, it's a zoning out thing. I read a newspaper, I read, I read signs again and again. I read menus like crazy. I gotta just take it away. I'll just have some fries. Come on. [00:20:22] Speaker A: And you still, you still do your painting and your drawing and all that? [00:20:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I've been doing a lot of that. Doing a lot of painting, a lot of drawing, a lot of comics, a lot of big ones, all the little ones. I just put blue on shit. When I. When I'm like, I can pick a color and put it all over everything, you know? [00:20:37] Speaker A: Hell yeah. [00:20:38] Speaker B: You gotta paint. Have you painted before? [00:20:40] Speaker A: No. [00:20:40] Speaker B: Good candidate for it. [00:20:42] Speaker A: Good candidate. [00:20:43] Speaker B: You got that. All that past mind drug usage cranked into. Oh, you could, I guarantee you, wake up seeing colors. Anyway, I have before. [00:20:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:51] Speaker B: That's what I. That's how I feel about bankers going to Bonnaroo. Like, I understand if you want to get all cracked out on acid and shit for the weekend, but I wake up like that, I don't need any help. I wake up in rainbows and squirrels and I don't understand banks. But it's probably nice release. [00:21:06] Speaker A: I don't either. [00:21:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's probably a nice release to just make all the numbers stop and see a rainbow for a second. Now, if you tell me how to make the numbers start, that'd be great, because I don't know how to do taxes. I don't understand stock market. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah. But I can draw a hell of a monkey if anybody needs a monkey picture. Or you need a flower or fish. I do really good with that creative shit. Probably can't fix my own car, but. [00:21:28] Speaker A: I can't do that either. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Yeah. But I'll make. I can make pasta from flour and eggs. Oh, yeah. [00:21:34] Speaker A: Wow. [00:21:35] Speaker B: Is this a dose of ADHd or what? Cause we don't. Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel. [00:21:38] Speaker A: I love. I love. I love the jumping around, dude. I'm on board jumping around. And I've been a huge. I've been a huge fan of you, Aaron, for years. And then since the first time I'd heard of you, John, was. Was Tyler Halverson. Yeah, you gotta meet my man. [00:21:52] Speaker B: John writes everybody's good, so you gotta. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Meet my man, Decius. You gotta meet my mandicious. And then the moment I had met you, dude, it's. It's been awesome. But why you guys, as songwriters, dude, like, your names that people fucking talk about, and you guys just do it your own fucking way, which is what I love. Y'all do it your own way. Like, they don't. They can't teach a course to write songs the way that you boys write. [00:22:13] Speaker C: Actually, you can. And we're writing a book about. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:22:17] Speaker B: We finished the book. [00:22:19] Speaker A: I gotta hear about this book. [00:22:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we got the. And the book's kind of like, this is the plan, you know? We're gonna hop on a bus and go on a book tour here. You know, I'm saying, you know, give us a year or two, stuff's gonna happen, you know? But the book is called how to write a song in 30 minutes. [00:22:35] Speaker C: Right? [00:22:36] Speaker B: Disclaimer. This book will not teach you how to write a song in 30 minutes. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Disclaimers are important. [00:22:40] Speaker C: Disclaimers. Yes. [00:22:42] Speaker B: Old man illustrated the whole thing, so that kind of leaves a. Like, if you just, like pictures, the hell with the book. It's awesome. Pictures. You know, my favorite part of the book is just the pictures. A lot of no rats doing dishes, but there's a lot of random ass, you know, pictures. Yeah, that's my favorite. But are we talking about the book? Like what? Like what the purpose? Like what the point of the book is? [00:23:07] Speaker C: No, he was saying that nobody, that we do it our own way. And so, yeah. [00:23:13] Speaker B: And you said, actually, yeah, we can teach it. We wrote a book about it. I'm like, hell, let's talk about the book. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Yeah, talk about the book. Plug it. [00:23:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we do it our own way. Because, I mean, yeah, I mean, what other way is there to do it besides your own way, really? Other. Someone else's way, I guess, you know, which a lot of people doing have a lot of luck with, though, you know? But I guess we're kind of hung up doing it our way. [00:23:33] Speaker C: Yeah, we just, we just started writing them in the mornings when we were living together because I pretty chipper in the morning. I'm like, hey, good morning, blah, blah, blah. But. And he's also awake, but he's like, curmudgeon in the morning. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Shut the fuck up. [00:23:47] Speaker C: And then, so he was like, all right, we're gonna have 30 minutes of quiet time. You're gonna sit on the couch and write a song, and I'm gonna sit here. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Quiet coffee time, as my girlfriend likes to tell her daughter, quiet coffee time. We sit here, drink our coffee, then. [00:24:01] Speaker B: We'Re gonna just got tricked into a quiet contest kind of thing. Yes. [00:24:04] Speaker C: And, yeah, so we would do that, and then we would just write a song in 30 minutes, and then we'd have to play it for each other. [00:24:12] Speaker B: And so you put. You set a timer. That's the trick. You set a timer and you make yourself finish it in 30 minutes, and you allow yourself to write a bad song. [00:24:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:20] Speaker B: And then you'll get your truth. That's kind of it. But if you sit and think about shit too long, you're just gonna get whatever you've been thinking about. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Yeah, makes sense. [00:24:29] Speaker C: And then it's just. [00:24:30] Speaker B: And it doesn't at all. Yeah. [00:24:31] Speaker C: Just doing it over and over. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Far out. Like gravity, man. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:37] Speaker B: Makes sense. Yeah, but it doesn't. You make your own sense out of shit. [00:24:44] Speaker C: But, yeah, it's. So we started doing it when we were living together, and he wound up, Miranda Lambert had asked him to, what have you been working on? He sent her a song called for the Birds, which was a 30 minutes song written at the trailer 30 minutes. [00:25:01] Speaker A: And then. [00:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:02] Speaker B: And she cut it. [00:25:02] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's on her record. The weight of these wings. So whenever Covid happened and shut everything down, I was, like, trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing with my life. And I was like, I should probably write songs. But you need to write, like, to work the muscles up to where you're ready to hop back into shit whenever the world opens back up. I was like, man, I need to, like, exercise. So the first year, what, I did 250, and then the next year, I did 300. [00:25:29] Speaker B: And he wrote a song a day. He called. I would text him every morning, send me every song. And it kind of made me want to just. I'm like, well, hell, you're gonna write all the songs. I just hang out, man, whatever, you know, like, yeah, and he's on a rampage. And then the songs start getting really, really, really good. And they start getting really good. And then we're like. And then. And then the fact that for the birds have been cut, too is like, well, we kind of have proof that the thing worked. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:50] Speaker B: There are theory that if you write a song 30 minutes, you're gonna get it. You're gonna get a song, and. And it's gonna be done. And you wrote a song that day? [00:25:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:58] Speaker B: And if you do it every day, he would wake up and I'd talk to him. 645 in the morning. I mean, I wake up early, he's up, and I'm like, what's going on? He's like, man, I just wrote my song. And I'm like, holy shit, what are you doing today? I'm on my way to write a song. Well, what are you doing after that? Well, I gotta write another song. I'm like, what the hell's going on around here? You know? But you come back and you look at the three songs from the day, and the one that would kick ass would be the one he wrote in 30 minutes by himself. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Wow, the 30 minutes 100 percenter. [00:26:26] Speaker B: Well, and then he has. In his damn catalog, he's got 700 100 percenters. You know, if anybody's looking for a song, like, there's your guy. And all the best songs I got. Sorry to keep interrupting, are your songs. Are the songs I wrote with him. And, I mean, I think Tyler's a badass writer, too, but look whose name's by your favorite Tyler Halverson song. I don't even know what it is, but I bet. I bet, you know, that's why it's his mandicious, you know, well, and it was. [00:26:51] Speaker C: It was. It was a good way for me to kind of get back into it. And several of them have been gone on to be cut, you know, because we'll just, like, dress them up. But anyway, so that's how you can do it, too. So that's a simple. [00:27:05] Speaker B: John just got his first deal, like, recently. [00:27:07] Speaker C: Like a year. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And John's 40. Yeah. Yeah. So this isn't like fucking anybody can do it. [00:27:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:13] Speaker B: I mean, or it took a long time to get where you're going, you know? It's not like you just write a song a day, every day, and do 700 of them. It just happens. Like, that's some crazy motivation. Like, yeah. You know? And it's crazy. It's also crazy. That's crazy, dude. [00:27:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:28] Speaker B: It's an addiction, a problem. I think a lot of people in this town have a problem. Like, they're at a blackjack table and they can't walk away because either they know they're gonna win or they've been winning, or, you know, like, Nashville's like a big old dirty Vegas when it comes to the music game, you know. [00:27:43] Speaker A: That'S an you're doing analogy. [00:27:45] Speaker B: You're doing, like, 20 podcasts, right? You probably got. I got ideas for three more. And you're like, hell, man, let's do another podcast. What are you doing? What are you doing tomorrow? Got a podcast. What are you doing after that? I got to do a podcast. And I'm like, I think you got a problem. [00:27:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:57] Speaker B: When you go on fishing. [00:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah, right. What are you taking that time for? When are you taking that time for yourself? You know? But it's like, I almost don't want to have that time. I don't do well with alone time. [00:28:06] Speaker B: That's what I've been saying. [00:28:07] Speaker A: I need to be communicating with someone or doing something. There has to be an activity or. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Company, or then you start thinking. Yeah. And you're not. And you're not having that truth of the, you know, thinking. And you start, it's. And what thinking is, like, critical thinking. You know, we're trained to tear into ourselves, like, negative. You know? When you cross the street, what do you do? You look before you cross. Cause you might get crushed by a truck. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:32] Speaker B: And then there it goes. And you're like, oh, and that would suck. Cause then somebody would have to tell my mom I'd been crushed by a truck. Cause I'm a moron. I didn't take a left, and I didn't look right, and then it's like, yeah, there you go. Here comes the afternoon. Just. It's hot. Why is it so hot? [00:28:46] Speaker A: How long did it take you to write the Benz song? That's been a moment too. That's been a moment. And of all the fucking. As again I go back, my earliest taste of the NRA tier catalog was enemy with muscadine, bro. [00:29:00] Speaker B: And that's one of my favorite songs of this day. [00:29:02] Speaker A: It's a moment in every muscadine bloodline show to this day. And a song so many people have that have the lyrics tattooed on their arms. Oh, dude, we get it, bro. Huge song. But Ben has just. I was scrolling on Instagram one day. I'm like, right here's on the stage plan. [00:29:18] Speaker B: So unintentional. Like, it's such. The thing that's crazy is so many people try so hard to like, hey, we're gonna do this. The car is gonna come in and there's gonna be the pizza and the explosion and it's gonna look real. It's gonna go viral and we're gonna go viral. What a horrible word, you know? [00:29:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:34] Speaker B: And then you just, you know, I was just throwing away my set pretty much, man. I was trying to have a good time. Just like, hey, I just left this phone message for my buddy Benjen and I had run out. I had a little bit left and there's a bunch of old people sitting in folding chairs and hippies and it's the Albino Skunk festival. It's a great festival. I'll be back. I'm going back down there. I'm the artist in non residents this year, so I'm not really on the bill. I'm just gonna be walking around bumping into shit and helping people do shit. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Where's the Albino Skunk festival? [00:30:04] Speaker B: The Albino Skunk festival is in Greer, South Carolina. This be a good plug for them? That would be cooler. [00:30:09] Speaker A: It's like albino skunk raised rowdy goes to festivals. [00:30:12] Speaker B: You should try that one. It was one of my favorites of all time. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Nikki T and I ate at the Albino Skunk festival. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like 2500, 3000 people. And probably like 80, 90% of the people there have been there every year for 30 years. Wow. And there's a fall fest and a spring fest. So it's a really, like everybody's a. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Big old hippie family just laid back, enjoying the music. [00:30:33] Speaker B: And it feels like, not really like, it's just like real authentic woodsy, you know, it's not like them dirty Bonnaroo hippies, sucking nitrous and that kind of festival. You know what I mean? It's like, you know what I'm talking about. I've been to fish shows in Jersey. Yeah, that's scary. In that parking lot, you know, but this is. This is a good one. Greer, South Carolina. It's middle of nowhere. And. Yeah, anyway, I got up there and I was like, we got any bins? And my friend, she took a video just because. And we were driving back, and I was like, look, I got a. You got anything on your phone? Just so I can let the world know I did something with my life this weekend. Like, you know, you got to post something. [00:31:12] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:31:13] Speaker B: So we post this thing, and then, like, it had 80,000 plays in, like 2 hours. I thought the phone. The phones were going, you know, and it's like, what is happening? You know? And it almost was infuriating at first because you're like, well, hang on, I got this other song, you know, but then, like, you know, I saw so many bins. I didn't even know there were so many bins out there. Who the hell no knew there were so many binse. Anyway, man, that thing's gonna follow me around, and I'm not. I'm not. I'd be fine with it or without it. It's a thing. [00:31:48] Speaker A: What, what was Ben Chapman's reaction when you. To the voicemail and then to everything kind of just blowing? [00:31:53] Speaker B: He's got the original. I will say that Ben Chapman owns the master of the original Ben song, and it's in his voice memo. I don't know if you'll give me a piece of that master, but he's the one that owns it. And I leave a lot of song messages for people. I call Paul Cawthon all the time. I bang on my drums, whack my piano, and go roll me back. You know, like that kind of shit you do with your buddies. Just a little bit of a schizophrenic breakdown because you didn't get your immediate gratification on wanting to talk to your friends. So you just yell at their answer machine and, like, with a australian accent. [00:32:24] Speaker A: Or something, you know, what's your australian accent sound like? [00:32:28] Speaker B: It's probably not very good, is it very good? [00:32:31] Speaker A: I'd say you're not from America. You sound foreign, so it's like you're. [00:32:34] Speaker B: Having a little drunk, a little confused. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Drinking a lot of fosters. [00:32:38] Speaker B: Is that what they feel like? Australians don't really drink fosters over, do they? [00:32:44] Speaker A: Or maybe they don't. [00:32:45] Speaker B: Maybe that's one of those, like, hoax things. Like, the Americans think there's kangaroos over there, but there's really not kangaroos. They're not even kangaroos in Australia. Do you know that? [00:32:53] Speaker A: No, I was gonna say that'd be wild. [00:32:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Kangaroos are a conspiracy that you could probably start that. Like, the birds aren't real, guys. [00:33:01] Speaker A: Like birds. [00:33:01] Speaker B: You made a living room. Yeah. He's got to be getting paid off of. Birds aren't real. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. [00:33:07] Speaker B: And, I mean, you gotta wonder. I mean, they're real, as far as I can tell, by, like, when you hit them and they blow up on your windshield. That's wasn't a camera. [00:33:15] Speaker A: Yeah. We eat birds every day, pretty much. [00:33:17] Speaker B: But I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fake one or two up there just. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Just chilling on a power line, just watching everything. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Big brother. [00:33:25] Speaker C: I liked. I like to believe it. I don't know if I do, but I want to believe it. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Be kind of fun. I'm not too concerned about what the bird is seeing in my life. I'm more sorry that it's not more exciting. [00:33:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:39] Speaker B: You know, I'd hate it if you had a. Got to hack into my living room camera or whatever. Whatever it was, you know, because it's just gonna be like what it is, just more than likely staring at a wall, talking to a fan, or talking to the fan, staring at the wall. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Or writing a song. Writing a song like you said yes. Or hanging out with somebody else, wasting your time that way. [00:34:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Gotta talk about the Laney stuff. Yeah. Lainey Wilson stuff. You guys have known Laney for a long time, and I remember seeing her play rounds because I moved here 20. I moved here 2018. So it was like when Frisky Frogs was there before live Oak and. Yeah. Watching her at why not Wednesday and revival? We'll go on a whole revival. [00:34:20] Speaker B: That's where I met everybody. Really? [00:34:22] Speaker A: I love big shout out. Big Rob and. And channing and. Oh, is that me? [00:34:29] Speaker B: That's good. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Playing music. Oh, it's Kurt. It's Kurt Ozon playing dobro. Just on my phone, just randomly in the middle of the podcast with shout out Kurt Ozone. Yeah, but the Laney. The Laney stuff. Four x four by you and a bunch of other songs and just kind of y'all's relationship with her on a friendship level and just getting to watch that rocket shit crazy go. [00:34:52] Speaker C: Just. I don't even have words for it. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't even know what to say. I think the lane thing is pretty awesome. I feel just kind of lucky to be a part of it, you know? [00:35:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:01] Speaker B: I think she's probably a place right now where she's just got all the best songs in the world and all the best people and all the worst songs in the world and all the worst people and all the ups and all the downs and everything, you know? So it's cool just, you know, have just a little bit of end still and know that and know that, like, she's a genuine, wonderful person. [00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:21] Speaker B: You know, you meet a lot of people, and it's a. You know, it's all. Everybody's trying to make a living, so I'm not hating on anybody. That's acting. I think it's cool if. If you. I think it's cool if you're doing country music and you're from New Jersey or whatever, and it's working. But the thing about Laney is it's. She's legit, and I. You know, the accents, real. Everybody's. You know, people beat that up on the Internet and everything, and I'm. I don't know. I just. I. It's nice to be around real people. [00:35:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:48] Speaker B: And to hear music, like, real country music being made by real country people. You know what I mean? And I think America. America. I think. I think she's a. She's. She's doing it. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I got to see her with the festivals that we go to. We were at a country concert in Fort Laramie, Ohio, and she played. She headlined one of the nights, and to watch her show, and she comes out and she's on that truck, and just the band is so fucking good. The transitions, it's. It's up there with any other show that is out there right now. [00:36:14] Speaker C: Insane. [00:36:15] Speaker B: Me and John got to do some woohoos on the record, too. She was awesome. She brought us in, let us do some woohoos, and. [00:36:22] Speaker C: Yeah, even that where it's, like, crazy. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah, he does that. [00:36:25] Speaker A: Was that in. Was that in the studio with J? What's it like going over to his place? Is he. Was he still at the bottom of that? Is it the church? [00:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was cool. It was cool. I just tried to shut up and be invisible. [00:36:36] Speaker C: Well, it was funny. So we go over there, and Aaron's like, let's just go in and just get the fuck out of here. And I was like, man, we don't. [00:36:43] Speaker B: Fuck it up, man. We're invited, but we're not supposed to be here. [00:36:47] Speaker C: And it was like we did our thing and we're just like, it felt like we were gonna get caught doing something wrong if we stayed any longer. So let's get the fuck out of here. [00:36:55] Speaker B: Out of here. That's awesome. But while we're there, she's like, you wanna do some woohoos? There's a song called Ring Finger and you hear the woo woo. [00:37:05] Speaker C: We did some Jerry's at the end. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Jerry, Jerry. We did it through Jerry Springer. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. Shout out Jerry Springer. [00:37:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I was just talking about that with him earlier about how I used to get off the school bus and then my mom would get home from work, you know, like five or something. So there's that little sweet spot, 330 to five, where you were just king of the castle, but you're nine or eight. Yeah, I mean, country, in the country, you just go home. Like, you can go play in the creek or whatever, but I go watch like Dennis and menace, Woody Woodpecker, Jerry Springer. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Yeah, Jerry Springer was like midday when I was, when I was growing up was like eleven or like noon and then it was followed by Steve Wilkos or Maury. It was either Morrie. It was either Maury, Jerry Wilcox, not the father. Yeah, I'm watching that show I'm home. [00:37:49] Speaker B: With like, yeah, dude, it's on YouTube. [00:37:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:53] Speaker B: If you just want to reminisce. [00:37:55] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Well, they used to do. I got to go to Jerry Springer one time. It was crazy because they really, they. Perks of the northeast, bro. [00:38:02] Speaker B: They connect it right in the live studio audience. [00:38:05] Speaker A: Ridgeport, Connecticut asked for that from a. [00:38:06] Speaker B: High school graduation job. I was like, I just want to see Jerry Springer, man. [00:38:14] Speaker A: So what they would do if you were in, like, if you went to a college in that area, they would. To fill like the studio audience, they would just have colleges and you would just sign up and then take a school, but it'd be like a field trip. Like Jerry Springer show. [00:38:26] Speaker B: That college, your podcast and your all that stuff. [00:38:30] Speaker A: I love chaos, dude. I love chaos. Nikki T is always like, why do you love chaos? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, I love going to Bucky's right after church lets out in a small town and it's just chaos. There's just people everywhere. [00:38:41] Speaker B: You love a traffic jam, dude, I. [00:38:43] Speaker A: Used to be a bouncer on Broadway, dude. I worked on that and I kind of thrived in that. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Waiting for some action. Oh, dude. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Checking ids at Whiskey Row 2018. [00:38:51] Speaker B: You can really, you can tell though, like oh, the fakes. [00:38:53] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, dude, I used to have a. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Do you let them go? [00:38:56] Speaker A: No, I'd fucking take. That was my bro. Yeah. [00:38:59] Speaker B: Where do they go? [00:39:01] Speaker A: We had. [00:39:01] Speaker B: We had a book, a binder or something. [00:39:03] Speaker A: We had a binder. We had malfetized by state. I had some fake european things, so. [00:39:06] Speaker B: You can look at and compare and all that. [00:39:08] Speaker A: It was just funny. I lived collect. Yeah. I lived with two other bouncers. So it's like, what are you gonna do past the time? Oh, come look at this idea. Yeah. Look at this Pokemon card that says North Carolina. [00:39:18] Speaker B: It's like restaurant hangs. Bouncer hangs. Dude. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Yeah. It was. It was a fun life, but I'm glad I got. [00:39:23] Speaker B: Got out of it without getting crushed, because every now and then, bouncer loses, too, you know? [00:39:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And I was small. I was the smallest guy. [00:39:29] Speaker B: We had everybody else, like, drunk crazy people are drunk crazy people. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And I was. And I've been sober now. I just hit eight years. So I went into that working sober. Thank you. So I would be working it sober. Some of the guys that have a little bit of buzz or a little bit of nose beers or be lit up doing whatever, doing that. That Broadway hospitality thing. Yeah. And. But we had some guys that were like, trained MMA guys, former military, former law enforcement, former corrections officers, some guys that got, like, invites to, like, the combine for football, so you could call for backup. Oh, dude, I'd be like a. Yo, big rig. Come on down, big rig. Big rig, who actually lives in Union County, Kentucky, coaches the wrestling team, but he fights mma now and coaches high school wrestling in Kentucky. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't fuck with a guy. [00:40:10] Speaker A: Oh, big rig. Yeah, dude. I'll be like, Jamie. Yo, big rig. Yo, Taz. Taz was from bowling Greenhouse. [00:40:16] Speaker C: Okay. [00:40:16] Speaker A: He was a little, little. [00:40:18] Speaker C: It was a short, Wiley guy. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Wide. And he. [00:40:21] Speaker B: I. [00:40:21] Speaker A: So I would see him pick up two dudes, six, five each. Just pick him up off the ground. Know how? So short. I don't know how he got him up, but he did it. Our wildest night, a wildest day was the Westboro Baptist church came to protest one. [00:40:32] Speaker C: Really? [00:40:33] Speaker A: I know. That's some Kentucky shit. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Yeah, they're famous, y'all. [00:40:36] Speaker A: See? I'll see those. [00:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah, you remember those guys? [00:40:38] Speaker A: Yeah, they're there. They were out, weren't they? [00:40:40] Speaker B: Just down. They're out there still all the time. [00:40:43] Speaker A: Yeah, on Broadway, on weekends, hanging out. [00:40:44] Speaker B: With the Nazis down there, man. I was like, what happening around here? [00:40:51] Speaker A: And nobody's talking about. [00:40:53] Speaker B: Nobody's talking about Broadway you go down there like, man, let's get a fried baloney sandwich at Robert's western world. Like, my God damn, there's notches on Broadway, you know, and then it's like, anyway, let's get a fried baloney sandwich. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Let's go in the stage. Oh, let's go look at Tootsie chaos, man. [00:41:12] Speaker B: Nashville is the melting pot, man. It's. I got some of my best buddies from New York and California. Yeah, everybody's here, man. It's. And you get a Broadway. It's like Key west. Oh, bro, it's the whole world down there. Like you said, european ids. And, dude, our Midtown still kind of nash middle. [00:41:29] Speaker A: That's why we like to. That's why. That's why we like doing our events there. We do a lot of stuff. Like tonight, I actually got you playing around over at. Over at losers. [00:41:37] Speaker B: Losers. [00:41:37] Speaker A: And that's where we do our stuff. And it's there. You have different artist bars popping up there. Like Riley. Riley greens winners. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:44] Speaker A: We'll be doing some events in there, which we're excited about. Old Dominion bought the old rebar. That's going to be Odie. So it's going to be. It's going to be kung fu, old Dominion, Riley Green, losers, and then co Wetzel. I don't know what he's doing with it, but he bought Dogwood. [00:41:57] Speaker B: Really? [00:41:57] Speaker A: So it'll be co Wetzel next. Losers will be sandwiched between Riley Green and co Wetzel bar. So it's going to bring. It's going to bring some. Some different energy. [00:42:05] Speaker B: Those guys are selling some t shirts. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Yeah. It's going to be cobalt dogwood. Yes. [00:42:12] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. And so red door. [00:42:15] Speaker B: That used to be soul shine. [00:42:16] Speaker A: I know. [00:42:17] Speaker B: You ever go down to those jams? [00:42:18] Speaker A: I. [00:42:19] Speaker B: It. [00:42:19] Speaker A: So I went in there a couple times, like, right before it had closed because I moved here. [00:42:24] Speaker B: October got shut down for. Because it said live music venue out front, but for noise complaints. Yeah, because they built all the condos around it and. [00:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah, because it would be. That was like a cool, full. It was one of the best. [00:42:34] Speaker B: Like, full band, full van all the time. [00:42:37] Speaker C: That's where they had your benefit after your house burned down. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:42:40] Speaker C: Was that soul shine? Yep. [00:42:42] Speaker A: Right above slider house still there, right? Yes. Slider house is still there. It's still kicking. You know, they're still like the same townies, like the same guys. Like, I forget their names, but they're the two twins from Chicago that come down every so often, and then there's Ricky, and there's those, the older guys you meet bouncing, and it's like they're still doing their thing, hanging out at slider house. They're popping around. Like, if I see them, I'll go up to Ricky. You'll see him getting off his harley. I'm like, rick, what's, what's the good word? And I was just check in with him. It's like New York, ma. Like, it's like the mafia. Like, you just check in with your. Yeah, the people of the neighborhood find out what's going on, you know. [00:43:15] Speaker B: Well, you know what's going on. Yeah, I'll holler when I, when I need to know what's going on. [00:43:20] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Oh, we're, like, entrenched here, dude. It's crazy, dude. But, yeah, going back to Taz in the Westboro Baptist church, I watched Taz launch a guy because they used to come down one of the body cameras, and they, like, spit at one of the customers, and Taz was all. Taz was like, if these guys make a move, he's like, I want to handle. All right, Taz. He's like, I'm a bowling green boy. I've been dealing with these fuckers my whole life. I want to take it. And I'm like, all right, Taz. So then they bumped up on Taz, and Taz shot him out into the street, and we got them all. And great cops took it from there. [00:43:51] Speaker B: I love that old ding a lings, dude. [00:43:54] Speaker A: It was wild, man. [00:43:55] Speaker B: Heard a bunch of ding a ling's. [00:43:56] Speaker A: It was wild. [00:43:56] Speaker B: I'll say it. I'll say that. [00:43:58] Speaker C: I'll say it. [00:43:58] Speaker B: I'll say it. [00:43:59] Speaker A: I'll say it. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Bunch of ding a lings. Anyway, how about them wildcats? They're looking good this year. They are. [00:44:06] Speaker A: Got a new coach now for Kentucky. Football, nas, basketball. That's right. No more calipari. [00:44:13] Speaker B: No. Mark Pope now. Yeah, that's a former player. [00:44:16] Speaker A: It's a big deal. [00:44:17] Speaker B: Yes. Speaking of the mafia, I guess they had to handle that, you know, Calipari. [00:44:21] Speaker A: Went, where's the mafia? [00:44:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:23] Speaker C: Arkansas. [00:44:23] Speaker A: He's in Arkansas. [00:44:24] Speaker C: I think you're talking about Patina. [00:44:26] Speaker A: But Calipari's got the name. Yeah. He's got the bloodline. [00:44:29] Speaker B: He knows. He's got the connection. [00:44:31] Speaker A: He's got. [00:44:31] Speaker B: You can make people disappear. [00:44:32] Speaker A: He worked in Jersey. [00:44:33] Speaker C: They can. They can both make a mean pizza. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:44:36] Speaker A: You know, lots of good sandwiches. Lots of good sandwiches. So, yeah, kentucky basketball is obviously. Obviously. [00:44:43] Speaker B: I just figured it was more better. [00:44:45] Speaker A: To talk about than the protests on Broadway. The Kentucky. My buddy Brad Curry, who followed me taking the muscadine gig after I had moved on, he's a huge Kentucky fan. He puts on Kentucky sports radio or the Kentucky sports network. And I grew up in like, the mecca of sports talk radio. Being in New York, yankees have. Are like the best record in the league. And people are still calling, bitching about the Yankees, about how we're still not as great as we can be. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Podcast already where you talk. [00:45:18] Speaker A: I don't, I don't. I could, though. I thought about it. That's how I got my start. I used to be right. Blogs when I was like ten. Wow. [00:45:24] Speaker C: Really? [00:45:24] Speaker B: Wow. [00:45:25] Speaker A: Cc sabathia and derek Jeter and wow. That was all I got into. But kentucky, you, basketball's fucking nuts, right? [00:45:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:32] Speaker A: Robertino. [00:45:32] Speaker C: It's the whole thing. Yeah. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Not as much, not as much football. [00:45:36] Speaker B: I grew up. Got better, I think. [00:45:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Recently, I just. I never been up, but I grew up. [00:45:42] Speaker C: This is right hand on a bible stuff. I didn't know that Kentucky had a. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Football team because everybody was talking about basketball. [00:45:48] Speaker C: What? Yeah. And I don't even think back when we were kids that they showed the games on tv. [00:45:52] Speaker B: They weren't very good. [00:45:54] Speaker C: No. [00:45:54] Speaker B: I mean, we're notoriously bad. [00:45:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:56] Speaker B: When. When I was at home, not as. [00:45:58] Speaker A: Bad as Vanderbilt, but definitely not as good as Tennessee, unfortunately. [00:46:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, and so where I grew up, we had one of those big satellites in the backyard, and I lived smack dab in between Lexington and Knoxville. So we got the local Knoxville stations and the local Lexington station, so I got to watch Tennessee football games. So whenever I moved down to Tennessee, when I was in 7th grade. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:46:24] Speaker C: I just. I was already a balls fan. [00:46:27] Speaker A: Big, big Phil Fulmer, he was doing nil before nil was legal, paying all them kids. [00:46:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Well deserved. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Tennessee fans. Feels like 98. Yeah, every year feels like 98 to get them. Couple losses, then it won't be 90. [00:46:45] Speaker C: Well, yeah, it's gonna happen. Okay. [00:46:48] Speaker A: It's gonna happen eventually. It's gonna happen eventually. How do you like working with Ella? [00:46:53] Speaker B: She's incredible. I'm sorry. I'm happy. This thing's going crazy. I'm like, man, you can't. We can't do this right now. [00:46:59] Speaker A: You're good. You're good. [00:47:00] Speaker C: More people talking about the Benz men. [00:47:02] Speaker B: As it was about Ben all day long. It's going to hit 11 million, like last week or something. Like, it's still going, you know, I don't know what to do. I'm kind of over. Ella's amazing Ella. Elle's one of the coolest people I've met in a long time. And I'm getting ready to head out with her for two shows. [00:47:17] Speaker A: She's. [00:47:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. I just. Now. [00:47:19] Speaker A: So it's Boston and where's the other one? [00:47:21] Speaker B: Chicago. Yeah. Judy. We're just going, right? But I'm going. Yeah. And I hope I get to sing that song with her. We'll see. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Dude, that's Ella. So Ella is like a little sister to me. She's one of, like, during COVID we would all get together and play kickball. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:37] Speaker A: And smoke pot and. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:39] Speaker A: Drink beer and have cigars and just hang out. Cuz nobody was on the road and none of the bars were open. They'd all close at like 09:00. And Ella was one of those people that was like, in that crew of, like, we used to call it sigs in the outfield. We'd be ripping. I'd be playing with Ryan Nelson, bro. Yeah, dude, she's. And then when I was out with Trey, she opened a bunch of shows for us. So she was in the van during COVID growing out. Yep. And she would hang. She would. She would hang and hold her own over these guys that were way older than her on the road. [00:48:09] Speaker B: Like, I've met her. [00:48:10] Speaker A: She can just drink. She can hang. Yeah. [00:48:12] Speaker B: I met her folks at her cd release. [00:48:14] Speaker A: Oh, they're awesome. [00:48:15] Speaker B: They were cooler. Helen, her dad said, think she's got two brothers, maybe. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:19] Speaker B: He said, I got two boys, too. And neither one of an Ellis. The one killing all the deer. [00:48:23] Speaker A: Yes. [00:48:24] Speaker B: You know, she's his boy is the impression I got. [00:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, you go into that. I called it the Alabama house because it was Trey, Ella, our buddies clay and Mitch living there. And there were. There was a big, awesome buck sitting right when you walked in the living room. I was like, oh, trade. You kill that? He's like, no, dude, Ella killed that. Like, Ella killed that last season. [00:48:42] Speaker B: I never killed it here. I never. [00:48:44] Speaker A: He had one of those swamp monkey things where it's like the deer's ass and it's like, turned into like a face and it looks like a monkey. And he used to run around with that. [00:48:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that was what Trey had. So Trey had that. Ella had all the bucks that were hanging. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Cool scene. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:58] Speaker B: Cool moment. Those are those moments where you kind of wear of them, but you're kind of not. Like now you're looking back at it like, wow, we were in this thing, you know, like. Like, well, hell, we're like, John and Tyler met because John moved into this old. I moved into an apartment. Right. Had y'all met before? [00:49:14] Speaker C: We had met, but just before that. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Y'All were, like, started writing all that stuff. Right. When you moved in, there's this house we call. We start calling the big gray, but it's over in Sylvan park, but there's a handful of. Ben was Bim Chapman, Meg McCree, Tyler Howard. [00:49:27] Speaker A: I've recorded multiple. Yeah, I've recorded multiple podcasts in that house. I think Ben's there. I think I did. Nate's there. [00:49:34] Speaker B: Nate Frederick. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Yep. Nate Frederick. [00:49:36] Speaker B: And now it's like, ashley Monroe, Angelina Presley, like, Lucas Nelson, like, so then they're all bringing, like, co writers. Yeah, it's like the big pink. It's a gray house, but the big pink, you know, where the band lived. [00:49:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:48] Speaker B: And they would just hang out and make music. But, yeah, it's this, like, whole scene, you know, it seems like all this stuff. I think Channing's moving in there now. Channing Wilson. [00:49:59] Speaker A: Wow. [00:50:00] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know what my point is there. What were we talking about? [00:50:04] Speaker A: It's just so cool. Like, the moments, you don't realize them as they're happening, but, like, that's it. [00:50:08] Speaker B: That's it. Brent Cobb Washington pointing this out to me one day. He's like, you realize, like, we're in the middle of it right now. You know, this is stuff. You look back when you're, you know, 60 and, like, remember that one time when we were in the middle of it? Yeah. [00:50:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Well, I mean, like, you got your whole thing going here, you know? Yeah, we're in the middle of it right now. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Yeah, we're. We're definitely with. With what we're doing with. With raised rowdy. I'm lucky to have been able to come on as Nick's Nikki T's co owner, you know, because he's been. And part of how Nick and I would bomb to be over the Internet because he was from Pittsburgh, I was from New York, moved down here a few years before he did. But we would talk about, like, institutions of events that were in town, you know, like, whiskey jam circa 2018, 2019, you know, revival at Tin Roof. Dude, my first revival night, bro. I moved to town the week before, and it was, of course, a Tuesday night, and it was when she got the best of me. Had just gone number one. Whoa. And they called themselves a 300 pound club, and it was combs big Rob and Channing sitting on the pew, bro. And I was like, this is my first writers round. I'm like, this is my first writers round experience. Holy fuck. I came to the right town. [00:51:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:12] Speaker B: You know, I used to do a writers round with Quincy Meeks. I don't know if you know Quincy. It was down in neighbors in Sylvan park. Oh, we were like the after hours after revival because it was on the same night, and revival was organized and, like, whiskey jams really organized. [00:51:26] Speaker A: So, like, war. [00:51:27] Speaker B: So, like, ward's killing it, and he's. He documented all this stuff and he recorded stuff, and he did a great job of it, you know, and there hosted stuff at the rhyming, you know. [00:51:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:35] Speaker B: Then there's, like, revival, to me, that's like, one step down. Like, Rob's pretty killer, you know, and he's documented it all. Kind of kept it going, kind of, you know. And then there was ours, which is just the dive bar, riders round. And it was like a pv pa that would just feedback and, like, we'd set people up to sing, and then we'd just go out back and smoke a joint while they were singing. Just like, walk out right in the middle or stuff. And it was. That was kind of the charm of it, you know, more and more people would show up because no one cared. And the beers were nothing, and it was just gross kind of. And I don't know if it's. I think it just ended pretty recently. But, like, James McNair would be down there all the time, and Luke Combs came down with him one time, and, like, who else? I mean, Rob will come there sometimes. John was. Anderson east is down there all the time. Like, it's a. You know, it's a class. It makes you think, too. Just go to these things now, and you're going to see, you know, Luke Combs, whoever's going to follow up all these. Somebody's got to fill the stadium when he turns 65. Somebody else has got dude down at red Door right now having a cold one, bitching about how he. How he ought to be the one up there. And he will be, you know. [00:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah. He just doesn't know. [00:52:39] Speaker B: You priority interviewed him. You might not even know it's him. [00:52:42] Speaker A: You know, it's wild, man. And it's funny you talk about those. The neighbors experience. That's kind of. You've been over and played a few of them. We do stuff over here at the rusty nail. Okay, rusty nail. Very similar vibe. [00:52:52] Speaker B: Just garbage. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Beers are $3. I call it my my house of our house of DeGeneres. You know, like, we do a cigar and whiskey night there once a month. People are out there playing volleyball. You get the rusty nail regulars in there. Dude, it's karaoke's all shit show. It's just a. [00:53:07] Speaker B: And we were at neighbors, too, actually, by the. We were in the neighbors when it was just that one, I think. And it was this real narrow thing. And there was a hairdo place in between. [00:53:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Cafe and neighbors. Yeah. The pet store is still there. [00:53:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:19] Speaker B: But it. They've expanded it and there's, like, food on the menu now. This is like, before it was. It's gotten a little nicer, I want to say this total dive, but compared to what everybody else was pulling off, we were just like, you know, messing around and having no clue what was going on. You know, should have written down, should have kept a record of who played there. Like, we didn't. We would just call it the last minute or, like, there wouldn't be anyone. So I would just play for an hour until somebody was like, can I play? Like, thank God. We didn't know if anybody else would want to play, you know? [00:53:46] Speaker A: That's funny. [00:53:47] Speaker B: Mack Lee part would come out there. I say, our buddy Macleap. [00:53:50] Speaker C: Mac was always there. [00:53:51] Speaker B: He's great songwriter, but he was always there, like, every week, quincy, be like, max playing again. I'm like, dang, man. You know, you've run a writer's round. You got to change it up, you know? Oh, yeah, dude, we can't have John play every week. [00:54:04] Speaker A: No, I would love that. [00:54:06] Speaker B: I mean, that'd be all right. But honestly, it would get old. Like, it's just when you got to week number seven and you'd be like, okay, bro, we're going to book somebody else at no fence. [00:54:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And what we like to do, too, is, like, getting the kids. Like, I like putting kids that I know are new to town or guys or girls that are new to town, put them together in one. And then, like, some of my buddies that I know, like, their whole friend crew, like, hey, just ask two of the homies, you know, and then bring your. Bring your friends. And that's how I got to really know Meg McCree and. And Gabe Russo and Becca Ray and Colin Nash was from asking, like, Tyler or Ben or whoever from that crew. Like, hey, and then I. Ours would be the same night as revival, but I'd have Vinny play Vinnie or Ben or whoever, play the first slot and then go down and host revival. [00:54:50] Speaker B: Vinny's doing his night at Bobby's idol. [00:54:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is going great. The ma jam or whatever. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Maclean part has a night at the nature the nation's on Sunday. Quincy, my buddy's doing the nations on Wednesdays. Like, it's cool. Just everybody branching off and doing a thing, you know? Yeah. And it means there's places to play in Nashville for songwriters, like, if you want to play and, you know, get out and meet people and. And do the thing, like, you can do it. Yeah. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Tell me about. Jesus, Jenny. Tell me about that whole experience of going on that. Going on that trip and just Ashley and that whole. [00:55:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:55:26] Speaker A: That whole. That whole thing, dude. Because I remember that was a moment in time where Nikki and I. I think we were driving to a festival. We were on a road trip somewhere, and that had just come out and we were just cranking that thing front to back. That whole album. [00:55:39] Speaker B: I love the album. I hadn't listened to it in a minute. Jesus, Jenny. John and I had already written, like, before the Lindyville writing trip, and John John wasn't on that trip. It was, like, me, Nicolette Hayford, Benji Davis, Connie Harrington, Brandy Clark, Ashley McBride, all in the house, you know, hanging out. And we're creating this fake town, and we're writing songs based on fake people in a fake town, like Dennis Lindy used to do. And John and I had just written Jesus, Jenny. And totally un. You know, we were just. We were just writing about crazy ex girlfriends or whatever, you know, just what, some. Some crazy drunk ex. That's. Yeah, Jenny. And we kept singing, and it was turned into, like, one of those inside jokes around the house. And then I think Ashley was just like, well, I guess Jenny's got to be in Lindyville. You know, Jenny's part of the town. And then she just fit and I. It all just kind of fell together. So then, you know, John got one in there, you know? [00:56:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the ratty dishes. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, I mean, it's funny how it's all been working. The Harold Lee, our buddy Matt Wickstrom up at the Lexington Herald Leader just did a little article on us. Yeah, it's like life highlight, lifetime highlight, hometown news, like us in the newspaper together. It's like writing duo. Yeah, pretty. Pretty dang cool. Because I feel like. I feel like I can hit a level by myself here. And you can co write with certain co writers really well and you can get there. And I think his writing. He writes circles around me. He's writing 700 songs a year. But I've told him the other day, when I feel like when we write, it's like. It's like Captain Planet. You remember that song? You just throw in your damn ring and the laser comes in and it's like, holy shit, man. Like, you pull it back, you're like, you know, bring me a broomstick. [00:57:28] Speaker A: You know. [00:57:31] Speaker B: It'S just crazy. And like, if you write songs for a living, you know when the buzz is there and you know when you know when it's there, you're like, motherfucker, I just thought we were getting a cheeseburger. Pull over. We gotta write this down. [00:57:42] Speaker A: We got. We gotta write this down. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Feet off each other. [00:57:45] Speaker B: And that's the kind of. That's what keeps you coming back, you know? That's the shit that keeps you coming back, you know? Cuz you're gonna write. I write so many crap. So songs, and then one day you just like, okay, that's what we're here for. You know, more of that. [00:57:58] Speaker A: You know, it's wild. Who are some artists I know we talked about, like, ella and we're talking about like, tyler, but Muscadine, bro. [00:58:05] Speaker B: How about that new record, bro? Holy moly. Set the bar. [00:58:08] Speaker A: They've always talked about just being proud of lower Alabama, the. The L la. You know, lower Alabama and telling stories about Monroe county and Mobile and just over the border in Mississippi. And for them, their past few records, to me, have just blown me the fuck away, dude. [00:58:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And they're hot. I mean, their harmony. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Oh, it's a fucking cheek. Charlie Muncaster's voice or whatever. [00:58:34] Speaker B: When they get in the barn, that barnum is. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah. Incredible. When they do that and then, like, even, like, rattlesnake Ridge, like, they get. They can throw in some fucking upbeat, like, palm burners in there, like teenage. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Dixie record ripping on the guitar, dude. [00:58:46] Speaker A: And they're just fucking monsters. They're just so creative and just have this bug that just. And for them to be doing them that independently, it's like they're their own team for a lot of the stuff. [00:58:58] Speaker B: They did it pretty much they did it. [00:59:00] Speaker A: And it's been that. It's been that way, like, going back when you were writing. When you were writing with, like, I'm sure you still write with them. [00:59:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I hadn't written with them in a minute, but they were actually. I have. I wrote whenever that snowstorm was. We got one in, but they were writing over there at the creative nation for a minute and. [00:59:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:16] Speaker B: And we would go over there and, um. Man, it was awesome. I just remember meeting those guys, and I would usually just bring a line or two and then just watching them just, you know, they probably got the captain planet thing going on, you know what I'm saying? Like, whatever. And, I mean, I don't know if anybody even knows what Captain Planet is anymore. [00:59:36] Speaker A: Classic cartoon. I'm sure it's on Netflix or Hulu or. So it's making. It's making a. And its back end on the streaming for sure. But in that. In that era. In that era of just Nashville at that time, that, like. Cause you got here. When did you say you moved here? [00:59:51] Speaker B: 0909. [00:59:53] Speaker A: And then you're. You grew up kind of around here. [00:59:56] Speaker B: I was in. I was in at MTSU zero six, so I guess. Oh, six. I was coming up here. I remember getting a haircut for a meeting at BMI once, and I thought it was big time, man. I was going up there for my BMI meeting. They're like, how'd it go? I'm like, I signed in and signed out. [01:00:15] Speaker A: I signed in and signed out. [01:00:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:17] Speaker C: Aaron was very professional when I met him. [01:00:20] Speaker A: Really? [01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, not in a bad way, but just, like, kind of on the shit, like. So we would write, like, 09:00 in the morning, and he had already written with, like, a homeless guy in a hotel room under a bridge or something at, like, 06:00. [01:00:35] Speaker B: I don't know about that. I mean, I did write with a homeless guy once, though. [01:00:39] Speaker C: Yeah. And where he would do rights. So, like, like, six in the morning. Back in the day, you know, I. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Was writing with a lot of old guys early in the morning. They all want to go get breakfast at some country diner, and I called it song hunting. We could throw that chapter in the book about going on a song hunt, but I figured there's a song in every waffle house on I 75. [01:00:58] Speaker A: You know, a lot of songs at the old Hermitage cafe. [01:01:01] Speaker B: If you go looking for it, and that's your goal, you'll find it. [01:01:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:04] Speaker B: If you go to, like, a lot of civil war battlefields around here. A lot of, like, random ass places to go. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Go down to, like, spring Hill or Columbia. Like, go down to, like, Murray county or out to pleasant view. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah, go look. Go somewhere you can eavesdrop, too. That's what I like. I used to like to go to Nashville when it was down in midtown. [01:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:21] Speaker B: And because his booth tables kind of crammed together, and you can just sit there and drink your coffee and just listen. [01:01:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:28] Speaker B: And then head to your right with nine ideas that other people just yelled across the table, having no idea they were writing your song for you. [01:01:35] Speaker A: I wonder if that's how guys like Larry David, even on the tv side, would go and just. Or Jerry Seinfeld. They'd see these experiences that people would have, like, different delis and diners. Yeah. And just notice it and be like, how do we make this our thing? Or how do we tell the world about this? You know? [01:01:50] Speaker B: I was thinking of a, like, a bunch of different Jerry Seinfeld like kind of plots or bits, but I was thinking one could be like the old shit. I'm blanking out. I'm tired, dude. [01:02:08] Speaker A: We're later in the day. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Well, I can feel my brain. What is it misfiring? You know when you're just mid story telling a bunch of. [01:02:14] Speaker A: I think. [01:02:14] Speaker B: I think you do my telling seven. You know when you start telling jokes and they're all just. You're hitting solid sixes all afternoon, like, well, it's gonna be one of those days where. It's just one of those days. It's just almost funny. Yeah. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:27] Speaker B: I went to. I saw this comedian once, and I was trying. I try really hard to. You know, I'm like, hell, we bought the ticket. Let's. Let's laugh. You know what I mean? And I was sitting there. I was trying and trying and trying. And then, like, it was at Zany's one night, and then this guy over on the other end of the room just falls out of his chair and has a heart attack in the middle of the thing. They turn on all the lights, and there ain't nothing funny about any of this stuff. [01:02:52] Speaker C: I'm laughing right now. [01:02:56] Speaker B: Right. I. I don't know what my point is. Again, what were you talking about? You. [01:03:02] Speaker C: You were at a comedy show at Zany's. But not laughing, being on somebody we were talking about. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. See, I'm doing it right now. There's a good, solid six of a story. I'm full of them. I can keep going. [01:03:14] Speaker A: But that era of Nashville, they kind of bring it back of, like, when the cone. The guys like, the Luke combs, the Laney Wilsons, the Muscadines, the Riley greens. You have whiskey jam taken off. You have revival taken off, like that. 2013, 2014. To like. [01:03:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that was kind of our year, I guess. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Even like, wall. Even like guys like Wallen and that whole tree, the FGL tree, of all the guys that come from that, the tree vibes, the guys riding around the buses smoking dope, you know, like, it's just that era, looking back is like. [01:03:43] Speaker B: So now there's something going on right now that we have no idea is going on because it's all the new era. And they're doing a podcast across town right now. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that's why we like going. That's why Nick and I love, love going to red door, you know, is because you find that's how you meet the kids, you know, the new dude. You have to be in the scene. But being in the scenes, exhausting, you know? I can't go out. [01:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it helps when you can just go. [01:04:06] Speaker A: And it's like, I don't even drink, so it's like. It's like I'm. But I'm trying to cut back on, like, the amount. Like, I don't really smoke cigs anymore. It used to be sit out at red Door, have a fucking dart. You know, people come over trying to. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Grow the fuck up here. Like, what's the problem? Everybody wants. I'm trying to. Trying to be cooked. Give me that bottle. [01:04:23] Speaker A: Give me that bottle. Give me that lighter. [01:04:25] Speaker B: I'm trying to. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Boston Mike, give me that cigarette. [01:04:28] Speaker B: Well, we're gonna need you to come down here. It's. It starts at midnight. Liquor's free. There's no food. Yeah, yeah, we'll drive you. We'll pick you up. [01:04:37] Speaker A: We'll drive. That's what we want to do. We're actually doing an event in September. We're calling it the Hermitage International Songwriters festival at the Rusty nail. Putting a stage on the little volleyball court in the back. We're putting a stage on the volleyball court. And to be, like, under the lights, and it's gonna be like, a bit where it's like you're in Key west, but you're in fucking hermitage, you know? [01:04:57] Speaker B: So it's gonna be some international songwriters. [01:05:00] Speaker A: Oh, we are. That's what I'm saying. We're getting some people. Like, we got our buddy Chris, Andrew G, who's from Scotland. We're gonna have Jordan Dossie. He's from Jordan. From fucking Australia. [01:05:09] Speaker C: Or right here can do his australian accent. [01:05:12] Speaker B: God, how. That's offensive. [01:05:13] Speaker A: You could be you. You. We could come up with a character we just have on the bill. We could have on the. The ratty dishes. [01:05:22] Speaker C: Rotted dishes. [01:05:23] Speaker A: Rotte d'Chez French. You guys are up there. Fucking mime. Just pull out the hits. [01:05:35] Speaker B: Hit him with the hits. I ain't no zebra. I'm a bumblebee. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but my point for that, you were talking about, like, we'll get you home. We'll get you whatever. [01:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:05:41] Speaker A: We're talking about trying to find a sponsor for that to pay for the lifts and ubers. Then people could just come to the nail drink all day and then go home. It's like, a good idea. Accommodations, like they say with Key west, like, they fly you down there, whatever. Yep. It's like, the accommodations for this. [01:05:55] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get you downtown. We'll black you out, and good luck. [01:05:58] Speaker A: We'll take you to Hermitage and black you out and leave you. [01:06:01] Speaker B: There's somebody laying out there. Be like, I don't know, I'm on a volleyball court behind some nail. [01:06:07] Speaker C: It's rusty. [01:06:08] Speaker A: The rusty nail. It's a little rusty out here. So we have. Yeah, so we have that going up. What's something that you would, um. That you would tell yourself, say. Say ten years. Say ten years ago for where your careers are at right now? What's something that you would tell ten year younger John G. John Dees? John De. [01:06:27] Speaker C: I would say, I told you so, motherfucker. [01:06:32] Speaker B: Stick with it kind of thing. [01:06:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [01:06:35] Speaker A: Is that kind of where your mind was back then? [01:06:37] Speaker C: I've. People ask me, and I have never. And this sounds like hell, but it's. I would always say, if I were seven foot tall in high school, I would have gone into computers. And then my senior year, like, midway through the basketball season, I'd be like, okay, I'm going, like, let's go. [01:06:57] Speaker B: Where? [01:06:58] Speaker C: It's like I have to back myself up against a wall. But it's like I never thought that I wouldn't be writing songs, but I didn't know when. I didn't know how, and I didn't know when, but that was all that kept me going where it's like, it's gonna happen. Just. Just don't quit. [01:07:14] Speaker B: See, I told everybody I was retired when I was 20. [01:07:17] Speaker C: He went the outside, and I was. [01:07:18] Speaker B: Fine eating potatoes and beans and eggs. Like I always said, if I taught a song right in class, first thing I'd do is have everybody bring some eggs and beans and potatoes. And we just learned to cook those for a week because you're fixing to be broke. And you may as well just know how to do it right. Cause you don't have to eat cheeseburgers and shit all the time. Yeah, you still survive. But I was pretty content just right at that, you know, playing revival, and I played on the street a lot. And you. You can make $300 a day downtown just yelling at people. [01:07:46] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:07:47] Speaker B: You were buskin yeah, I had a long, long hair. Like, down here, I had one song is because you got to sing a jingle, you know? You can't. Nobody's gonna. You can't hear the whole song. So I just sit on the corner, go, I know my mama wouldn't like to see me here. And then they'd be, I know my mama wouldn't like to see me here. And then you finally get one of them looking, you go. Cause she don't get naked and she don't drink a beer, you know? And if they stay like. And I know my daddy wants to stick his tongue in my ear, and everybody's like, what the fuck's happening? Five, five, five. This guy crazy, you know? [01:08:23] Speaker A: And then it just adds up. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And then they walk off, go, I know my mama wouldn't like to see me here. And then it started again, you know? And then once you get about $30, you put that in your pocket and throw one back in. So you only have a dollar. Shit, give them a dollar. You know, once you got them hooked. [01:08:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Just wheeling them in. [01:08:43] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's cash money. You don't got to wait three years on your royalty there or whatever. Yeah, cash coming, right. [01:08:48] Speaker A: Cash money is the best. [01:08:50] Speaker B: I had a pile of bum signs that I made. All these different signs, and it's like, you know, cash helps, you know, ass helps, whatever. I had all, you know, all the different signs, but that was the most fun, too. So ten years ago, I would have been like, who cares? That's what I said. Today I'm. Now. Today it's hard. Now you get a taste of it. Now we're stuck at the blackjack table, and you keep going back. You know what I mean? Ten years ago, I'd never been to the blackjack table. I was still just playing my guitar. Maybe, maybe 20, not ten. I was already stuck at the black. [01:09:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:09:19] Speaker B: But, yeah, yeah, I don't know. [01:09:23] Speaker A: That's awesome. And tell me about your. Your podcast that you're gonna be doing, too. I want to make sure that gets plugged. [01:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that you might be on, too. [01:09:30] Speaker A: I would love to be on. [01:09:30] Speaker B: It's called, you wrote a song, and I just interview people for half an hour, and then in half an hour, we write a song about what we talked about in the interview. And it's not even. I don't even have any questions, like, what's up? Who needs a song? What do you thinking? You know? And somebody says potato. And we go, potato. Hey, you wrote a song, you know, and. But the kicker is noam musical is my guest. So my first person was my mom. And we got some mechanics in line, some professional athletes and some chefs and working on. Anybody can get ahold of Bill Nye, the science guy I sat through in a astronomy lecture with him. I'm convinced. I really want to write a song. Bill Nye, science guy, Neil degrasse Tyson. [01:10:11] Speaker A: Would be cool to anybody. That's anybody. [01:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So anybody hearing this too, like, if you're like some brilliant thinker or a scientist or a crazy politician, I think that'd be great, too. Crazier, the better on the politicians side. Like, I kind of want to interview the nuts, you know what I mean? And then their rival too, would be great. But we're just writing songs. We're not going to talk politics. We're going to write about. And so it's going to be intelligent people that got to where they are because they, some reason or another have said the right thing and done the right thing, and we're getting some crazy results. [01:10:41] Speaker A: And what I'm excited about as a viewer for that is the seeing the inside of what a writing room looks like with Aaron Raytier, it's gonna be this conversation. [01:10:53] Speaker B: We would have written two songs. [01:10:55] Speaker A: And you'll get people's vulnerabilities. You'll get that in depth. Because co writing is such a deep, vulnerable process. [01:11:02] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you open up, right? And there's a camera on you and there's a microphone, too. So for me and all my squirrels here, it focuses me a little bit because it's like, I. Hang on, we're writing a song. We ain't talking about Grandma anymore, you know, cool it, you know? So, yeah, I'd love for you to be on. [01:11:16] Speaker A: It would be an honor. [01:11:18] Speaker B: You gotta get. We got to get some astronauts, if you know any astronauts. I'm looking for a race car driver. [01:11:22] Speaker A: Race car driver. [01:11:23] Speaker B: We could probably do a bouncer. Would be amazing. Oh, dude, see if big rig wants to ride. [01:11:27] Speaker A: I'll get big. I'll get big. Ready to come down from union just. [01:11:30] Speaker B: Because it sounds awesome. And I'm sure he's awesome. [01:11:33] Speaker A: Yeah, he is. [01:11:34] Speaker B: He's got stories. We can write a story. We write a song about beating somebody's ass. [01:11:38] Speaker A: He's got plenty of those. [01:11:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, honestly. And then I'm pitching the songs right after, so you never know. We might get a damn Brantley Gilbert cut or something. [01:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:47] Speaker B: His sing a song about beating somebody's ass. I think he did. Yeah. [01:11:50] Speaker A: He's got quite a few of them. He's got quite a few. I've been to a lot of Brantley Gilbert shows. [01:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah. He'll be. [01:11:56] Speaker A: He's got the brass knuckles on the microphone. That's it. Yeah, yeah. No, it's not. I think it's a real thing, but part of his thing is, like, his brand. Yes. Bit is the. The breast knuckles on the mic. [01:12:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:10] Speaker A: Never drops it. [01:12:10] Speaker B: It's. I mean, it's the dome. [01:12:12] Speaker A: When he reached. When he. When he reaches down for the fist bump with the crowd, you got to be careful which hand you. Because you go down with that. It's like with the brass knuckles. Gonna hurt the mike in. [01:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:12:21] Speaker A: Be crazy. Yeah. [01:12:23] Speaker B: Wild stuff. But I'm Yankees. Do you know any Yankees? [01:12:26] Speaker A: I actually know one guys through my buddy Wales. He went. He played with him at Clemson. I'm a guy named Clark Schmidt. [01:12:32] Speaker B: Mark Schmidt. If you're out there, you'd like to write a song. [01:12:35] Speaker A: Yeah, we can. We could wolf that. That podcast gonna take. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Honestly, I want to do that from the rest of my life. I'm thinking, like, I've talked to the guy helping me produce it. [01:12:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:46] Speaker B: Jace Cardi. And we're gonna lay into this thing, dude. Cuz I was pretty. Well, I'm just writing songs. Random people every day anyway, so may as well just be somebody that everybody wants to hear. What song they got in them. [01:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:58] Speaker B: You know, and I'm curious. What song you got in you? And you don't know until you walk right over. [01:13:03] Speaker A: I don't know until we get into the conversation. [01:13:05] Speaker B: Me and John never know what we're right. [01:13:07] Speaker C: Today we wrote the song of the. [01:13:09] Speaker B: Year in the year 3000. In the year 3000. Who can't wait? What did. [01:13:15] Speaker C: What would. Ten year ago you have told you. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Get to Nashville sooner. [01:13:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:19] Speaker A: You know, I moved here. I went and did college. But when I was on when I. My college radio show, I would have guys from Nashville that are, like, blown up now. Like, I would have. Like, I convinced Cappy over Facebook messenger to have combs call into my college radio show in, like, 2014. Like baby acts, you know, like. [01:13:38] Speaker B: And you were already aware of it, though. [01:13:39] Speaker A: I was watching. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah, see, I didn't know any. I didn't know Luke Combs was Luke. I mean, was. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't get it. I wrote a song with Luke and I. And I still didn't know. I still had no idea. Yeah. [01:13:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I was just shooting shots and what was very involved in, like, the. The local scene of, like, the tri state area. So, like, I'd go to shows in. In New York City and all, like, the random, like, western nights that would be there. Or you'd go to watch, like, I watched Morgan wall and play at Jenks Club where Jersey Shore was shot, where it's like the. The Guido gorillas like, this pumping. And they do country on Wednesday. And we said we had. We had Morgan there, you know, like. But I. But if I had moved down here to even earlier, you know, I wish I just said, fuck the college thing, and just come down here, you know? But I learned a lot there, so that's what I would tell myself in 2014. And also quit drinking. You know, quit drinking a little bit earlier. I would have. Would have saved a little bit. A little bit of trouble if I. [01:14:29] Speaker B: Or just go easier if we're talking about drinking. Yeah, I think I drank about 50 years worth of booze in 20 years. And it's like, if you just spaced it out, you probably wouldn't be hurting so bad. Or, like, you know, just have a. You know, just. What is it? Drink responsibly. That now what they call it? Yeah, that would. If you just drank responsibly. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Slogan. Yeah, dude, that's the slogan. Well, I appreciate the hell out of you boys, and I feel like we could go for another hour. [01:14:53] Speaker B: Yeah, feel free to delete a lot of. [01:14:54] Speaker A: No, I'm not deleting. Dude, this was awesome. I have been wanting to get both of you on. I thought they'd be separate episodes, but God, am I glad that they. [01:15:01] Speaker B: You guys get John back when he can talk more. Now, I'm not interrupting everybody. [01:15:05] Speaker C: Dude, this was perfect. [01:15:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I'm eight five nine. That's 606. That's original area code. This is a. Yeah, I'm eight five nine, bro. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah, the ratty dishes thing, dude. No, seriously, you guys are two of my favorite guys in town. People that we consider family with. Raised rowdy. Like, what's more raised rally than fucking Aaron Ray Tierra, fucking John Decius, the ratty dishes from the great state of Kentucky. You know, if you guys need an mc to intro, I get up on. I get up on stage and I'll be. I'll be introducing you tonight, and I'll introduce you as one half of the natty dishes at losers. [01:15:39] Speaker C: I'm gonna wear my jersey. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Outside the round tonight. You'll be. You'll be up there at losers. This will be my first writers round that I've hosted at loser at Live Oak for all those years, and I'm interested to see how it is. [01:15:50] Speaker B: I would be up there, but I'm writing. [01:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. No. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Which is crazy. I'm like, oh, yeah, but I gotta write. So, like. So what are you doing later? I'll work. [01:15:58] Speaker A: I'm just writing songs. [01:16:00] Speaker B: Sitting at the blackjack table, hoping I'm gonna win. [01:16:03] Speaker A: You know, I'm going to place. [01:16:04] Speaker B: I'm just nursing my addiction. How about you? Because you can't find one thing. You're hooked on podcast now. Congratulations. There's worse things to be hooked on. Could be meth. [01:16:13] Speaker A: Oh, it could be. It could be meth. It definitely could be where people go to find you to keep up with you on the Internet. [01:16:18] Speaker B: ADhd. Cool. Yeah. Or they. Or, you know, at Aaron Ray Tierra. On Aaron right here. Calm. [01:16:27] Speaker A: Or on. Or on socials. It's just. Yeah. Right? [01:16:30] Speaker B: Yep, yep. Nightmare last. [01:16:32] Speaker C: And then it's just at John Deus. Or you can do at ratty dishes. [01:16:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Ratty dishes has an instagram page. We're on Spotify. Yeah. We actually have a top secret record on. On Spotify to. Under the band name. Versions. [01:16:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:16:48] Speaker B: Version s. Versions. [01:16:50] Speaker A: Versions. [01:16:51] Speaker B: And the title of records piece of. And the math symbol for pies on the COVID of a record on a piece of pie. Dude, I kind of song about pie. I'm not getting a sweet piece of it. [01:17:01] Speaker A: I'm gonna listen to that in the truck on my way to losers. [01:17:03] Speaker B: Look up versions. [01:17:04] Speaker A: I'm gonna do it, man. I'm gonna do it. But Aaron Ray tier, John Dius. Thank you, guys. So coming on, you're joining outside the round, y'all be sure to look them up. Be on the lookout for the ratty dishes and get on there and find it. Comment on this if you find. If you go and listen to virgin and tell us what your favorite song on pie is. [01:17:21] Speaker B: Nice. [01:17:22] Speaker A: And go check that shit out. Shout out to our friends from surfside as well. Vodka lemonade, vodka iced tea. They are crushable. Visit our friends from Surfside and shout out to our friends from crown heads, orca coolers, all the great sponsors to make this happen. For more on us, visit raised rowdy.com. my boys, Aaron and John the ratty dishes. My name is Matt Burrell. This has been outside the round. [01:17:44] Speaker B: Thanks, Mandy. [01:17:45] Speaker A: Sweet too. [01:17:45] Speaker C: That was funny. [01:17:50] Speaker A: I never been the kind for stair one place for too long I never. [01:17:57] Speaker B: Been the best at sin I love. [01:18:00] Speaker A: You to a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve. They usually just make them leave. So if you know me, if you. [01:18:11] Speaker B: Really know me, you know I'm just a two trick pony. [01:18:15] Speaker A: But maybe the drinking and the lack. [01:18:18] Speaker B: Of money for show, I'm just a two trick on it. Yeah.