Randy Montana

June 01, 2020 00:57:50
Randy Montana
Outside The Round w/ Matt Burrill
Randy Montana

Jun 01 2020 | 00:57:50

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Matt Burrill

Show Notes

On episode 45 we're joined by one of our favorite songwriters in town, Mr. Randy Montana. It was our first time talking to Randy and we had a blast! The man is the definition of a 'heavy hitter' when it comes to songwriting in town and is a really good dude! 

We talked about his life growing up in Nashville as a unicorn, his days as an artist, some of our favorite songs that he's been a part of and most importantly who his favorite turkey hunting partner is! 

Also talked about the life of a songwriter that goes out on the road and what quarantine life has been like in the Montana household for Randy and his family! 

Y'all sit back and enjoy this great conversation with one of Nashville's finest, Randy Montana

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Speaker 1 00:00:13 How we doing? What is going on? Welcome back to the In the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler here, still up in Delaware. We're doing some Skype sessions, and we have a guy with us today who we are big fans of, um, a guy that's written a lot of cool songs, a really cool dude, and, uh, we're very happy to have him. It's Mr. Randy Montana. Randy, how you doing? Speaker 2 00:00:32 Good, man. How are y'all doing? We're doing Speaker 1 00:00:34 Great. We're, we're hanging in there, man. So you're down in Nashville right now? What's Nashville, Tennessee like here on, uh, on four 20 usually a day. Everybody's out partying. Speaker 2 00:00:43 Yeah. Uh, very quiet. It's a very quiet four 20. Uh, yeah, man. No, I'm hanging out here. I'm in the, uh, or my, uh, my wife's closet. We've got our little, uh, office set up in here, so. Nice. Um, yeah, man. No, everything's good. It's a beautiful day, sunny day, uh, hang with my kids today and, uh, took my, my middle son Turkey hunting this morning and, um, man, just enjoying Monday, so. Awesome. Nice. Speaker 1 00:01:08 There you go. That's great. You get to be home with the home with the kids right now. That's like one of the saving graces of, of this whole thing. Like if you're looking at the positives, you, you get to be home a lot with the kids and you get to go Turkey hunting a lot now, like you have all this time on your hand. It is Turkey season. Speaker 2 00:01:24 Absolutely, man. It's, it's been good. I mean, like, there's so many ways, like the, the adjustment at first was super, it was hard to get used to when the go go go kind of came to a screeching halt when everything shut down. That was, you know, that was, that took some adjusting, but it's like, man, the longer this has gone on, the more, uh, appreciative I've been for the time that I've gotten with my kids. You know, I, I, we don't get time like this, you know what I mean? Uh, even in the summer when they're off school, it's like, I'm still working every day for the most part. And so it's been a great little slowdown and I'm still working from the house, you know what I mean? Like, I actually, in here, I I, I write quite a bit in here and we kind of do it over either Skype or Zoom or, uh, even FaceTime and things like that. And so, you know, I'll come in here and, and write for a couple hours a day and then, um, but man, everybody's here. You know what I mean? Yeah. And, and that's, and that's, that's a good thing, man. It's good to be around. I mean, obviously we all kind of get to our wits end every now and then with each other, but, uh, man, that's what bedrooms and, and, uh, and cold beers for, you know what I mean? Speaker 1 00:02:34 Amen to that. Absolutely. And, uh, you've had a lot of success recently, a lot of big songs coming out, um, and the ones that really come to mind, I mean, what I love about, um, what you've been doing, like a lot of people when they think about like songwriters and stuff, they don't necessarily know who's writing the songs that they're hearing on the radio or that they're streaming. What you did on Spotify with making that playlist of Randy Montana songs, where you can go through and look at all the stuff that's out there right now, bro. 2019 and 2020, pretty good years for you, huh? Speaker 2 00:03:06 It's been, it's been good, man. It's, uh, it's, it's been, it's been really good. We're, uh, it's, it's funny, you, uh, you know, as a, as a writer, you kind of, you have your head, you keep your head down, you blinders on, you know what I mean? And you're kind of just moving forward and it's the, it's next song, next song, next song. But it's, it's cool to look up every now and then. And, and like you said, you look at, you look at a list, you know, of, of songs that are out and active. And it's a pretty, it's a, it's, it's, it's cool to kind of see the fruits of your labor, um, out there, you know, people enjoying it, you know? Speaker 1 00:03:39 Yeah. Is there one particular that you're like especially proud of? Cause I know there's so many that are out there now. Is there one in particular where you're like, that's my golden child, or is it like having kids? We're not, it's not one is your favorite. Speaker 2 00:03:52 It's, it's all for different reasons, you know what I mean? Like, it would be like, you know, beer wrote my hearts special, cuz that was my first number one, you know? Um, man, I, I, I have a, I love that I wrote a song with Parker McCallum that he released called, uh, pretty Heart. Yeah. And I don't what it is about that song. I just, I love that song. And so, you know, that one, I I I feel like it's one of one of your kids too, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it's, uh, but, but, and like I said, but it's all for different reasons, you know what I mean? Like, they, they've all got a special spot for, for, for, for different reasons for each song, you know? Speaker 1 00:04:31 Yeah, no, absolutely. And, um, you write with a lot of different people, and that's something that I've noticed from guys that are Nashville guys, guys that are Texas guys. Um, going back one of your early cuts with a guy like George Strait, like it's, you got like a wide array of work and then of course, stuff that you put out yourself, um, doing the artist thing as well. So for you, um, kind of your journey, I know it says you were born in New York, you grew up in Nashville, so technically you're a unicorn, right? Do you claim being a unicorn? Speaker 2 00:05:00 Yeah, man, no, it's, it's, I, I, I do claim unicorn status in that I have no recollection of living in the state of New York. But yes, I was, I was born in Albany. We moved down here, um, we moved here when I, I I had to be th maybe three years old or something like that. And so, yeah, man, Nashville's always been home. And, um, yeah, man, I mean, I feel like I've seen, I've seen this city change so much over the years. Like even from when I was started driving at 16 years old, you know, and, and just the, like, there was a, there's a road over here where actually where I'm close to now, where I live, and man at night, if you were coming, you know, it was an intersection. And if it was past 11 o'clock, man, for the most part, you weren't even putting on the brakes rolling through that intersection, you know what I mean? <laugh>. And now it's a, it's a big stoplight, you know, huge. Like in the afternoons you get stuck in traffic there. So just to see like the city change is, is, is pretty crazy. But yeah, I do consider it. I, I, I consider myself a, a, a Nash, a true Nashville <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:08 Yeah. And growing up, how you grew up, I mean, having the lineage of songwriting is pretty much in your blood. Um, yeah. Being, being who your dad is and learning from, learning from him and just being around, were now as a, as a child, were you, um, were you like in writer's rooms as a kid? Did your dad like, bring you to writes? Because I have a, my, one of my roommates, um, in town, his name's Ethan, he's a songwriter, and he brings his son Clayton along to write sometimes he's a little three year old and he'll be sitting there. Did you ever have experiences like that growing up? Speaker 2 00:06:37 Yeah, I mean, not, not necessarily in the writing room. I remember, um, I remember one time, like, we, we were obviously around it a lot for like, like holiday parties, things like that, like through my dad's publishing company and, and all that. But, um, I remember, like, I remember as a kid, my dad was in the studio. My dad, the reason we moved to Nashville is he got a, he got a record deal on Warner Brothers back in the mid eighties. And then, um, it was Billy Montana in the long shots. It was a band. And, um, so they got, they signed the record deal. That's how we wound up moving to Nashville, to Tennessee. And, um, so fast forward, he loses that deal, winds up getting another deal in, I don't know, maybe I, I think I was seven or eight when he got it. Speaker 2 00:07:25 And, um, I remember he was making a second record in that, in that record deal. And, um, I got sick one day. I got sick as a dog and I was, you know, my mom was working full-time and my, and like, so there was no, I remember there was nobody to keep me. And so he had to take me to the studio. He was in the studio and they were doing vocal over dubs. And, and this was back when they were tracking on two inch tape. So it wasn't pro tools, you know what I mean? Right. Like, it was, it was, it would rewind. It's like, you know, if you're familiar with the recording, recording process now it's, it's all digital, you know what I mean? It's like, if you're gonna move something, you literally grab the whole track and you can move it, you can cut, you can pace, you can cross fade. Speaker 2 00:08:06 It's unbelievable. But back then they were still cutting the tape. And so, um, yeah, I have a vivid memory of being just sick. So sick. And he, I remember he put me on the floor in the corner and basically gave me a pillow and a blanket and said, just lay here and, and don't, don't say anything. You know what I mean? Yeah. And, uh, but yeah, I have such a vivid, a vivid memory of that day for some reason. But I think it's because when you wind the tape back, they were working on the chorus of this song, and when they were, they would wind the tape back and start from the same exact, they start from the top of the chorus every single time. And I've, and I'll never forget the top of the chorus, the, the line is, I won't deny life's been treating me real good. Speaker 2 00:08:53 And, and I, it is still stuck in my head. The top of that Cho says, I won't deny. I won't deny. And if it did that twice in the day, it did it 4,000 times. Like, because they were coming back and they were working on that chorus. And so I'll, I'll never, like, that's kind of, that's one of the times I remember being in the studio with my dad is listening to that. I won't deny haunting me still here, you know, 30 years later or however long it's been. You know what I mean? So, yes sir. Speaker 1 00:09:22 Yeah, dude, that, that's awesome man. And you talk about how Nashville's changed. You got a lot of people at myself. I'm originally from New York, and um, you probably hear it from the accent. I'm a, I'm a damn Yankee now cause I've been in Nashville for over two years. So I've, I've achieved damn Yankee status cuz y'all haven't, I haven't, I haven't gone back home yet. But, um, na seeing how Nashville's changed now, it's such a hub of just everything from bachelorette parties on, um, on pedal taverns to craziness on Broadway. And it's, it's just weird how things, how different it must have been even 10 years ago. Speaker 3 00:09:56 Yeah. Cuz I, I moved here seven years ago and this changed drastically since I moved here. Cause it still felt very much, and one of the things that helped me move here was that it still felt like a small town when I moved here. Speaker 2 00:10:07 And, and, and I think there is still, there's still that element where I still, it's always felt like a really big small town. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it's always felt like a really big small town. Um, but yeah, I mean you talk about like the downtown scene and all that. Like, I mean, I'm 30, I'm 34, so that's, you know, drinking age was, that was 13 years ago for me. And it's like, man, that downtown was, it was a different, it was a different deal. I mean, it was still, you know, like even like talking about Damian, uh, where like tin roof and all that is, it's like that was a, that was a gravel parking lot across the, across the, the street there, you know what I mean? And we would all park for free over there. And now it's 15 story condos up and up and down. Speaker 2 00:10:51 And so yeah, man, it's like, you see the difference of, uh, how that tour is. And you talk about all the pel taverns and things like that. It's like, tourism has just exploded. And, and man, it's like I I, I got off an airplane. I got off an airplane maybe, uh, I don't know, this was, this was, this was in maybe February, march and it was on a Sunday and I was getting off. It was, I was getting off Sunday morning, you know, noon-ish, maybe right around right around noon. And I'm walking out. And so there's a whole slew of people coming to the gates. And man, if it was nothing but hungover, bachelorette parties, <laugh> like that, that was, they were all hungover. They were all in sweatpants. They were all carrying their pillows, you know what I mean? Like, it was, I, it like, I literally started laughing out loud, man. I was like, this is a, this is a song, you know? Yeah. There Speaker 1 00:11:48 It is. That, that, that right there is definitely, definitely a song idea. And something that we've talked about, um, on here with, with some different guests and stuff is like when people move to town. Cause obviously a lot of people, there's a reason we refer to locals as unicorns cuz there's more people from outta town coming in than there are Nashville natives. It seems, um, a lot of people they, when they're, when they're first like finding co-writers and things like that, it's people that are moving to town around the same time. Like something like, like our buddies Gary and Charlie from Musk and I talked about like, they moved to town around the same time as guys like Ray Fulcher and Drew Parker and that those were some of the early co-writers. What's it like being a local, finding co-writers and things like that? Like when you first started getting into the music process? Speaker 2 00:12:30 Yeah, it was, it, it's, it's, that's interesting cuz I didn't have, cuz I had already, like I, I, I kind of already had it figured out where I was living and even in college I went to M T S U. Yes. You know what I mean? So I right down the road in Murfreesboro and so yeah, I didn't do the whole like roommate thing. Uh, let's rent a house over, you know, off of Hillsboro Road for a little while. And, and I, I just didn't do that because, you know, I kind of already, I already had roots here, you know what I mean? I had, I had places to stay and I had that kind of figured out. And so, um, my like, my, it's like your class essentially. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:13:08 Exactly. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:13:09 It's your class of, of people. And so it was, it was, mine was kind of like, it was kind of like people that were all getting deals about the same time, you know what I mean? Like, uh, um, specifically it was like Brett Eldridge and, um, remember Frankie Ballard, like, we kind of signed our pub deals and record deals all about the same time. Kit Moore, you know, uh, we, we signed our, our record deals about the same time and radio toured a lot together. Um, we were both, I was on Universal for, for a while. And um, he had just signed. So yeah, you got those people that you start out with and it's like you all remember each other, like, you all spend so much time together beating it up, just trying to, trying to get something going. You know what I mean? Speaker 2 00:13:58 And, and, uh, you'll kind of always have that, I envied those guys that moved to town though, and like, did, you know, jam you know, four people in a, in a two bedroom house and, and figure out how to make that work. And we're all chasing the same dream, you know? And so, um, uh, you know, those guys are brave. You know, I, it's like, I I often wonder that it's like I I, my dad always said, he is like, man, it was either between signing a record deal that first deal, he was like, I was either gonna sign that record deal or I was gonna buy a, I was gonna buy a farm in upstate New York, which Speaker 1 00:14:36 Is beautiful. Upstate New York is gorgeous. Speaker 2 00:14:38 Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's beautiful man up kind of like in the Finger Lakes region and like, I, uh, you know, you often wonder it's like, guy, if he had done that, would I have had the balls to take off? And, and I don't know, I can't answer that. If I, if I would've had the balls to ch come down here and, and chase a dream, you know, it's like who knows what would've happened. But I mean, it's just circumstance. But yeah, man, it's like those, those guys are those guys that pack up and move to come chase a dream are man, those are, those are brave people, you know what I mean? Like, they're, they're brave and, and, uh, that, that, that step is as hard as it is. I, I I think that first step is the hardest, you know what I mean? Speaker 2 00:15:21 It's like, it's one thing. It's like you look at how hard somebody works to, you know, talk about your musk eye guys. It's like, man, I love those dudes because they've put in so much time and effort on the road, uh, writing songs, making their own records, like, like blazing their own trail. It's super cool, man. Yeah. It's like not many people that can say that they do it that way, you know? And, um, and so like, for them it's like, like yeah, all that work is, is definitely hard and, and it takes so much time and effort, but like, man, the bra, I think the bravest step and the biggest step they ever took was leaving Mississippi and driving up here to Nashville and going, all right man, we're gonna do this. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, that's starting from scratch. That's a, that's a, looking at that blank page, you know what I mean? It's like, well, hell, I don't know what we're doing, but here we go. You know? And Speaker 3 00:16:13 Actually, so I come from the same area of the country originally that Gary and Charlie do. In fact, Gary and I played football against each other, like in high school. Yeah. And uh, you know, just coming from like our area of the country to somewhere like Nashville, uh, they were more in the city than I was. I was way out in the sticks. But even so, like, you know, moving up there, like, you know, it's one of those things where a lot of people are not for you for that. You know, I didn't know that they've had a backing system at all and they had, you know, their roots in Alabama already in Mississippi and stuff. But like, you know, it's one of those things where like, it's not like a city where everything's possible. It's a totally different mindset of moving. So it even add a more of a challenge to it. Speaker 2 00:16:53 Yeah. That's very interesting. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:55 Yeah. No, for sure, man. And so being a local, I gotta ask you, we always talk about food on here, we're big food guys. Um, and uh, for me, I'm, I'm a big, like, I'm a big pizza guy being from New York, but Boudreaux here he is taken me to almost every Mexican spot in a 30 mile radius in the middle of all over the middle Tennessee region and hot chicken and stuff like that for you. Where's the go-to hot chicken spot being a local Speaker 2 00:17:19 Oh dude. But I, I, I'll be honest with you, man, I am not, I'm not a huge hot chicken guy. Interesting. Like, yeah man, I, every now and then, and it's like, I don't know what it is. It's like, it's like enough time passes by for me to completely forget. Like, there's some law, there's some like psychological law. There has to be, because it's like enough time passes by for me to realize just how miserable my insides were the last time I ate <laugh>. Yeah. And it, like, there's like, it's gotta be a seven year thing or something. I don't know. There's, it is, there's gotta be something to it, but it's like, so yes, every now and again I will do it. And, and uh, <laugh> the last time was, yeah, it was awful. So I'm in that, that period of where I have a vivid, vivid memory of how awful it was for me. It's just like, it doesn't, it doesn't agree with me. It's so good. Don't get me wrong. I think it's so good. We had it at a food, we had a food truck outside of that. I don't know, there's some cool little bar that's got a bunch of old, uh, arcade games and uh, like mini bowling in there. Have y'all ever been to that? Oh, pins, Speaker 3 00:18:28 It's the pins mechanical that's over like, uh, I think it's near like 12th or something, Speaker 2 00:18:33 Right? By 12th and Porter. Yeah. Yeah. We, we, there was a, there was a, there was a, uh, a hot chicken truck out front there and uh, man, it was delicious. But yeah. Not, not a good 24 hours for your boy here, you know, <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:18:48 Oh, I've definitely been there. And that's something being out, being out in the road and stuff. Um, and being a New Yorker, I've been, I've been learning a lot about southern cuisine and the guys will, the guys will fuck with me a little bit. They'll be like, Hey, go try chicken gizzards. Like, they won't tell me what chicken gizzards are, but we'll pull up to a gas station and Bumble, fuck Mississippi. And Gary will be like, Hey, you gotta get the chicken gizzards, man. It's, it's a thing. You can't be in Mississippi and not get gizzards or you can't be in Louisiana and not get like bood damn balls or get pigs feet or this or that. And they just love showing, introducing the Yankee to all the interesting food choices of the redneck South culture. Speaker 2 00:19:23 That's hilarious, man. And there are, there's so many like little niche dishes, man, that like, like I said, it's like if you don't know what it is, like it's just, it's just, it is what it is. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, dude, you're not gonna, you find out Speaker 3 00:19:38 At this point though, he should know whenever he is getting set up. Cause we always let him go first in line. Like chicken gizzards are like, dude, get chicken gizzards. And he, so he gets 'em and then we're all like, yeah, we're gonna get 'em too. And when we go up and we're like, yeah, we'll take the chicken fender fingers. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:19:54 Yeah, dude. And, and the one in Mississippi, the, the first time I, the, the one time they got me with the Gizzards I was wearing, I looked full like straight outta like the Bronx or somewhere in New York City. I had a fitted Yankees hat with a T-shirt with the, with the Adidas like jumpsuit pants. And the people, the old ladies behind the counter were like, this kid ain't from around here. You know, like they could hear it, my voice and stuff. But, um, yeah. So, um, so the other thing with, um, other thing I wanted to ask you, I mean, there's, there's a bunch, we wanna, bunch of stuff we wanna talk to you about being, being what you've done in terms of being a writer, doing the artist thing. You rewind to the artist thing back in, what was, it was like 20 10, 20 11, the, um, put me in a box comes out, and a lot of people heard that when Justin Moore cut it. And a lot of those songs now, and there's one that I know, um, that I'd heard about Ashlyn Craft Cutting, right? Speaker 2 00:20:42 Yeah. She, she cut Train Rack. It's on that dope, same little p that we did. So yeah, dude, her version's awesome. Speaker 1 00:20:48 Yeah. So what's, so what was it like, um, putting that project out in kind of the early days of Randy Montana? The artist? Speaker 2 00:20:56 Yeah. No, I had signed to, uh, I was on Universal Records for, for a while there, and I had made a record, I had made a, a full length for Universal, which we had put like a couple singles out there. And you know, they both would, they, they would, we put two singles out and I had the, the, the disease of 34 or whatever it was. It would just, they would both, they both died at 34 for some reason. That was my number, you know what I mean? But, uh, yeah, so we did that project that's full length and then kinda after I came outta my record deal, I just wanted to do something else on my own, you know what I mean? And, um, so yeah, so I made that, put me in a box EP and, um, yeah. And so, um, man, I just, I put to, yeah, those were just songs that I'd loved, that I'd, that I'd written kind of since my deal was over and, um, you know, and, and, and, and put it out and, and so yeah, it's cool to see, like, it's cool when, when a guy like Justin hears put me in a box and, and, um, in was for record, for his own record. Speaker 2 00:21:59 I had another one on there called Rebel Kids. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:22:02 I, I dig Rebel Kids a lot. Like, because I remember, so my, my background, I was a country radio DJ up in New Jersey before moving down to Nashville. So I would like, during that time period when that record, when, uh, kind of don't care, and that whole record came out and Rebel Kids was one of my favorite tracks on that record, which is super cool. So when I saw, when I saw that on the list of Randy Montana songs, I was like, I gotta ask him about that one. What was the story behind Rebel Kids? Because that's a song that I really grew up liking. Speaker 2 00:22:30 Thanks, man. No, no, no. Uh, just the, if you're talking about songs that are special to you, I think that one is up there just in as far as truth goes, you know what I mean? Like, like as a, as honest as it gets from me, you know what I mean? Um, and my buddy Dan Ibel too, I think we, we we're kind of cut from the same cloth. And so, um, but yeah, as far as a super like personal song, that's probably it. And, and I was gonna put it on that Put me in a box, um, I was gonna put it on to put me in a box ep, uh, but man, right after I wrote it and, uh, I demoed it and um, uh, Luke Bryant heard it and put it on hold immediately, and I was like, oh, shit, <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:23:12 It was kinda like, it, it was, it kind of sounded like it was a, it was like, oh man, this is gonna happen, you know? And, um, anyway, that wound up falling through, but then as soon as, as soon as that did ju Justin scooped it up and, and, um, and he cut that one and, and put me in a box. And so, but I'd already put the EP out by then, you know what I mean? So, um, but yeah, man, it's, it's cool. Like, talk about like just the, the life of a song and kind of where it starts and why it, why it gets the place that it does. It's just like, there's no rhyme or reason to it, but you look back at it and it's like, wow, that thing has, and they, they take on little lives of their own, you know? Speaker 1 00:23:51 Yeah. And a guy that you've written quite a bit with and have, have some cuts with as a fellow writer, Jonathan Singleton, what's it like getting in a room with one of the, one of, one of the kings I regard him is like, like where the modern country scene is right now. Jonathan has a huge, huge hold on how things are, the way they are in terms of like, what's out there. He's such a monster writer and such a creative guy. What's it like getting in a room and penning a song with Jonathan Singleton? Speaker 2 00:24:16 It's an absolute nightmare. <laugh>. I mean, it's an absolute, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It's not <laugh>. Uh, man, I, it's, I've known Jonathan since, I think, I think we met in, uh, we met in 2008, I think two seven Wow. And 2008. Yeah. And, um, yeah, man, we were, we both had record deals at the same time. So we were both, he was on Universal South and I was on Universal and those are they I under the universal umbrella, but here in Nashville it was two totally separate companies, you know what I mean? Like, it was two totally separate record record companies, but we had the same booking agent. And, uh, so we were, I remember he had just, he had just come off, he had just come off touring with Eric Church, and I think I had just gotten done. I think I did. Speaker 2 00:25:13 I, I was out with Sugar Land and Little Big Town for a long, for like six weeks or something like that, six, eight weeks or something. So anyway, we had both done like these pretty good sized tours. And then they put us together to do a bunch of club, like a bunch of smaller clubs. And we, we followed each other in, you know, our ba in our bands followed each other in 16 passenger vans, which I'm, y'all are familiar with, you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh yeah. We, we did that for, oh, God knows how long. And I, I don't know why I remember it, it felt like we were always in Florida and like we were always in Florida. I don't know why it went other places, you know what I mean? But I felt like we were always in Florida. And, uh, um, but yeah, so that's where I met Jonathan. Speaker 2 00:25:57 And, and we, we wrote some back then, and then, um, we, we, we've been writing honestly since then, you know what I mean? Like, it's been more, some years less others. But like, yeah. So that, that, that relationship goes back. I mean, before we had kids, before we bought houses, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, I, I remember him having his first two hits, you know what I mean? And being like, man, that'd be cool to have one day. You know? So yeah. Um, yeah. So it, like that relationship is, it's uh, like so many, like the guys you moved to town with, man, it's like, you'll, you'll look back and go, well, that was one of the first people that I met, you know what I mean? And so writing, writing, writing together is pretty, it's, it's a seamless thing, man. Like I said, we, we've been doing it for years. That's, I think that's why it works, you know, it's like you're just, you're just used to being in the room with each other, you know? Yeah, Speaker 1 00:26:53 Exactly. Yeah, man. And I can only imagine what the room must have been like that day when you guys wrote beer Never Broke my Heart when it was the two of y'all and Luke. Speaker 2 00:27:02 Yeah. It was a good day. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:27:04 Yeah, that and, and Luke's the guy doing, doing, um, country radio. When I was doing it, it was very, I was doing it right around like from 2013 to 2017. So we had the pleasure of getting to know Luke early on when I was doing, doing that stuff up in New Jersey and to see the mon, see just the, the monster explosion from where it started with a hurricane and even earlier than that turnaround in the southeast to where he's at now, having a cut, having a few cuts. Also Houston, we got a problem on there. You've got, uh, you've got quite a few cuts with Luke and um, so what's it like getting a room with him too? Speaker 2 00:27:36 Man, Luke is great. One of those people, like you're saying, man, it's like, dude, I met, I met Luke kind of back before, like Luke played me that first record bef it wasn't even mixed yet. It was the first mix of that first record in my, we going back to Turkey Hunt and we went Turkey hunting and we both, Speaker 1 00:27:51 Of course <laugh> Speaker 2 00:27:53 All good things start there. Okay. Yeah. Oh Speaker 1 00:27:55 Yeah, Speaker 2 00:27:55 <laugh>. And, uh, so we met, uh, we did, uh, sorry about that. Yeah. So that, I mean, that's, that's where, where he and I met and he played me that first record in my truck and, and we started writing songs and um, you know, same, it moved on. It's like we're writing all the same people writing with Jonathan and, and, um, and doing it that way, man. And, and so, yeah, I mean, what, what writing you talking about writing beer never broke my heart. And like, man, it was, I love that. Like, so where it is now, like he says, like, you know, Luke now, you know, the Arena Tour Act, you know what I mean? The Arena Act that's selling out these places in 10 minutes and 14, 15,000 people showing up and, and there'd be another 14, 15,000 at the door waiting to get in if, if they thought they could, you know? And um, but like, you know, like writing a song like Beer never Broke my Heart. And it's like, we wrote it on, on Luke's bus, man, and, and he was, I remember he was parked outside of a club in, um, I think we were in Columbia, Missouri, cuz it was where I remember it was where Isn't isn't The Univers Isn't Missouri? Yeah, the University of in Columbia. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:29:10 That's Mizzou. Speaker 2 00:29:12 Yeah, it was outside. I remember it was, it was, we were outside of a bar there and it was like a, an 800 seat place, you know what I mean? And so I just say it to say it's like how it, it looks like it was very orchestrated, like, oh, I was gonna be, the beer never broke my heart tour. And, and the single's gonna come out in the middle of the tour, but like, man, at the time, like he was still playing 800 seat rooms now. It was headed that way, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it was the, the, the, the tidal wave was, was cresting, you know what I mean? Like, but it wasn't like that was, it's just like took, it just, it took on a life of its own man. That guy's career's amazing. It's astounding. I mean, it took off like a rocket ship. Speaker 2 00:29:52 It's unbelievable. And I don't know if I'll witness anything like it up close and personal, like I've had the blessing of doing for the last, for the last few years, you know. But, um, yeah man, I mean, writing with Luke is great. I I, he's a, he's a great guy. I mean, like, he's just, he, he's just, he's a good guy to be around. Yeah. He's, he, he's fun, he's funny. I mean, you've met him, dude. He's just, he is who he is, you know, and, and what you see is what you get, you know, honestly. Like he, like he says on that, on that record <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:30:23 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And um, so this, this question might get in a little bit of trouble. Of all the co-writers you got, who's your favorite person to go Turkey hunting with <laugh>? I know that's a tough one. Speaker 2 00:30:36 Oh man. Speaker 1 00:30:39 Because I know you go turt with a lot of people. Speaker 2 00:30:42 I know. I turt with all of 'em. I feel like <laugh>, I feel like we turt more than we write songs sometimes. Speaker 1 00:30:48 Yeah. Oh, I'm sure you do Speaker 2 00:30:51 Man. It's all for different reasons. It's all different reason. Let me think. Uh, me and Dan Ispo, Turkey hunt a lot together, but man, actually not as much recently, cuz he and his brother do that brothers hunt thing. Speaker 1 00:31:03 Yeah. Which they kind of have to be partners out there in the field. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:31:06 So I, they're kind of nixed out cuz listen, so it's the last three years, right? So it's like I have the best Luke, uh, the, the best luck with Luke Combs cuz we've only been once together and we both killed a bird that morning. Oh Speaker 1 00:31:19 Wow. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:31:22 So, no, we've been more than that. I take that back. We've been a lot, we've been more than that. But we, at one point we were one for one and both with a bird. So it's gotta be Luke because we're, because our, our batting average is so high, you know what I Speaker 1 00:31:36 Saying? Yeah. It's a thousand Speaker 2 00:31:38 <laugh>. Yeah. Batting is so high. Speaker 3 00:31:40 Have you, uh, have you been able to harvest a bird this year yet? Speaker 2 00:31:43 No, not yet. It's, I've had the, I don't even want to go there. It's been so frustrating, man. I've been so close. But Speaker 3 00:31:49 That's the beauty of Turkey hunting though, is like, you know, you get so close and there's so many chances, but like to actually be able to get one is, you know, sometimes very rare. Speaker 2 00:32:01 So yeah, man. No, and, and I think that's what I mean, that's what keeps you coming back. It's like, uh, it's just like anything, it's like that golf shot, you know what I mean? It's like you can have a horrible round and then you stick one tight from like 165 out and you're like, okay, I'm coming back. You know? Yeah. You get that bird, it's like you get close and they're so frustrating. I, I forget every year how much they, how, how insane they drive me. But, uh, but yeah, man, I, like I said, I'm, I went, I went this morning, I'm gonna go again Wednesday. So <laugh> Speaker 1 00:32:33 <laugh>, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like an addictive feeling, like, like something where when it's this tis the season you gotta go. And I've never been hunting a day in my life. Like, and the guys being who we're out with be working with a guy like Gary who is all about the outdoors and hunting and very big into all that stuff. I hear about it and I'm learning a little bit about it, but it seems like some guys have been having some real good luck out there getting birds. Like a guy like John Langston posting a damn bird every other day. Speaker 2 00:33:01 I know. Like, Speaker 1 00:33:02 What the hell? Like, you make, and, and I'm sitting over here like, how, how are people saying this is hard when like a guy, when a guy like John Langston every other day is Instagram's, oh look a bird and then, or Luke, oh look a bird. Oh, here's a bird with rayo, here's a bird with newbie, here's a bird with this. Like who? Yeah. And, and just seeing all these birds, and I guess because there's so many people out there like, it, it is a lot tougher than it looks. Speaker 2 00:33:24 No, every and every year's different. Every year's different. Like there was, I was laughing, I think it was, it was two years ago, I think I killed two, I killed one on Saturday of opening morning and then one again on Sunday. And so it was just like, I had two in the bag the first first two days of season and the rest is downhill. You know what I mean? You're like, man, I don't care if I kill another one. I'm just, I'm, I'm good. As opposed to this year where I'm three weeks in and I still hadn't pulled the trigger yet. So Speaker 1 00:33:50 Yeah. Now, now do you hunt on public land, private land? What do you, what? How does that all work? Speaker 2 00:33:54 A little bit of both. I mean, I got a couple private land spots and then, um, and then same with public, you know, uh, got a couple different blocks that I like to go out to and, and public sponge, there's a lot of ground to cover, you know what I mean? Those, those birds are a lot more skittish. But, uh, man, I love the, I love the challenge of get, of getting there, getting out there after man. So you, you find the right bird. It doesn't matter if you're on private or public, you know what I mean? He just gotta, he's just gotta be, he just gotta have that loving feeling, you know what I mean? So, and he's gotta think you're that beautiful girl that he's gonna have that loving feeling with Speaker 3 00:34:28 <laugh>. Oh yeah. It's funny though cause like where Matt lives and I did a summer internship like up in South Jersey and stuff, and where I lived there, like those birds just roam free and like, they'll stand in the middle of the road and I'm just like, you, you wait till spring and it's on. But nah, they don't have anybody like hunting them up there. So they just literally, like around the neighborhood, you wake up, you know, there's a beautiful time in your backyard and you're like, if there wasn't like 43 people around me right now that would report me to the cops, you'd be mine. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:34:57 <laugh>. I know the feeling, man. I know the feeling. I'll drive, I'll drive 45 minutes to go to a spot. And then like you said, it's like there's, there's quite a few birds around here. It's like, you know, my wife was taking a walk the other morning and she walked out of our neighborhood and then there's kind of a, an adjacent neighborhood up the deal and there's this ti there's a big time over there that if, if you're up there around 8, 8 30 in the morning, he just, he stands in somebody's front yard and just hammers. He just gobbles and gobbles and goggle while I'm driving 45 minutes down the road to chase these things that I can't even get to gobble at me. And it's like, well there's, there's one across the street hammering. It's, it's frustrating. Speaker 3 00:35:32 It, it is. I used to live on Charlotte Pike and there was a flock of turkeys that would come through Charlotte Pike all the time, like up near like climb Nashville and all, you know, pretty much metro Nashville, right. And you're just like, gosh, I wish that you were, you know, 45 minutes outside the city where I could do something about this <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:35:49 Well, they're either the smartest birds alive or the dumbest, I can't figure it out and there's no in between, you know what I mean? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:35:54 What does your Turkey call sound like? And the reason I'm asking about that, we had, um, a while back in early episode we had our buddy Andy Austin, I don't know if you know Andy at all. He's a, so what he does, he's another writer, um, doing the artist thing in town. But what he does six months here, he goes out to like North Dakota and it's like a hunting guide for that. So we had him do a Turkey call on here. I know we're over Skype right now. What does a Randy Montana a Turkey call sound like? Speaker 2 00:36:20 Well, I can't even do it. I can't do it in my mouth. My son's better at it than I'm, I gotta have the, i I use like a mouth call, so I can't Oh really? Speaker 1 00:36:28 Okay. I can do it Speaker 2 00:36:29 Like that. Yeah, he's, he's probably better than I am. Like my, my son can make him gobble. He's got that, he goes, he does that squeak, man. And, and, and like I said, that bird up the road, he'll, he'll, he'll call at that bird and that bird just hammers right back at him. He's, he just, he just use his mouth call and, or just his mouth, you know what I mean? And that, and then, and then turkeys love it. They'll gobble at him. I can't do it, man. I be horrible. I'd just be making it up on the spot, you know what I Speaker 1 00:36:55 Mean? Oh see, I see. That shows how much I know about Turkey. See I know with like duck calling, I've seen Duck Commander and Duck Dynasty and all that shit before, so I know there's like duck calls I didn't know, see everybody, a lot of people that I know do it, like do the thing with their hands, like I have no idea how to do it either. But I wasn't sure if you're a, if you're a Turkey call, like actual Turkey call guy or if you make it yourself. Speaker 2 00:37:16 No, there, there's some guys that can do, I, I wonder if that guy, can he do like a gobble? I bet he can do like a gobble real well, like we do Speaker 1 00:37:23 Everything'll We'll, we'll send, yeah, we'll send you a video after this. We had like a, we had him in the studio and we, we got like a video of him doing it and it's one of my favorite videos that I got on my phone. Oh, that's great. Just seeing, yeah, Speaker 2 00:37:34 I'm jealous of those guys that can do that, man. No, I gotta, I, I use little mouth calls and slate calls and stuff like that, but yeah, Speaker 3 00:37:41 I was a big box call guy whenever I used to Turkey hunt a lot, so Yeah, Speaker 2 00:37:45 Absolutely. No, I can't do that. I'm, I'm jealous of him for being able to do that though, Speaker 1 00:37:50 <laugh>. Yeah. So hopefully you get a Turkey soon, man. Speaker 2 00:37:53 Absolutely. I hope so. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:37:55 No hope. Hopefully you get one on Wednesday with today being Monday and going out there and, uh, that'll be cool. So we were talking too about, um, obviously right now everybody's kind of isolating at home and you're writing all the time that that is your job. You are a professional songwriter. That's what you do. What's it been like doing the Zoom, Skype, FaceTime writes, Speaker 2 00:38:13 Man, it's, it's been fine. I mean it's, it's, it's so different. Uh, there's an energy in the room, um, that you don't, you know, that you don't get over Skype, uh, you know, or, or Zoom or whatever we're using. But, um, it took some getting used to, I'll just say, you know what I mean? Like, it took a little bit of, I was super skeptical at first and then I tried a few of 'em, at least people that I was comfortable writing with, people that I've been writing with for years, you know, and, and that, that makes it a lot more, a lot easier because it's like you kind of, you know, each other's nuances and kind of how the, how the right goes and, and you're comfortable. You know what I mean? And so, uh, yeah, I I've been getting songs though, you know what I mean? And, and, and, uh, yeah, still, still at least staying actively busy, you know, that's, we're not just sit, I mean, as much sitting around as there is, it's like I'm actually able to, to work quite a bit from here. So Speaker 1 00:39:08 Yes. Yeah. You gotta you gotta just keep on the grind as best you can. Yeah. Just like we're doing with our, our little mobile rig that we brought all the way up to freaking Delaware with us of all freaking places. Um, and then another thing. Yeah. And then another thing I wanted to ask you, the, um, so you do a lot of riding out on the road with people, um, where you, you were saying how, how you'll end up on a bus or out on the road with guys for a weekend. What's been like an interesting story, like a funny story where you're out on the road? Cause I've, I've seen you, you're out on the road, obviously you've done stuff, being out with Luke, you've done stuff out on the road with Riley, and those are two fun camps where a lot of cool, crazy things happen. What's a memory that you can share with us? Like a story about being on the road for a, for a writing weekend or a writing run? Speaker 2 00:39:52 Yeah. Oh man, I don't know, but you guys know, it's like every camp's a little different. Um, every camp's a little bit different, man. I'm trying to think like a specific one. There's, I remember, uh, writing with, I was out with Brantley Gilbert for a weekend or for actually for a week. And, uh, I didn't know Brantley at first, you know what I mean? Like, he's a, he's a great guy. We had so much fun, but man, I just, we would stay up. He likes to start at like two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:40:25 I've heard that before. That he's a real late night guy, Speaker 2 00:40:28 So it just, it was, and I didn't know that going in. It was like, we got out there and the guy I was with Brock all of a sudden he is like, Hey man, you know, like Brantley likes to start pretty late. And I was like, well, what's late? And he was like, ah, you know, one-ish. I was like, ah, dude, well that's fine man. One in the afternoon, that's great with me. And he goes, no, man, like more like one o'clock in the morning <laugh>. And I was like, all rock and roll baby, let's go. You know what I mean? And so, I dunno, I just remember being, we were we watching the sunrise for six days straight with, with Brantley, but, uh, I can't think of any like specific, we've been pretty good. I mean, I remember buses breaking down and things like that, you know, having to, having to jump off. Speaker 2 00:41:08 I remember jumping off, I can't remember who we were out with, bus broke down. We all had to get out on the side of the interstate and, and I just remember we got on the band bus and it was early in the morning, like Sun was coming up and they were running two buses. And I just remember, I just remember there was, there was 15 or 16 people on this bus and people just sleeping everywhere. I can't even remember who we were at with, but, uh, I don't know, man. I don't, I don't, I don't have any good ones. I don't have any good, any, anything that I can share right here. Speaker 1 00:41:40 Okay, I gotcha. Favorite, favorite pit stop on the road of like, the, the Flying Jays pilots. Casey's Wawa. What's your favorite one? Speaker 2 00:41:49 Man, Bucky's in Texas. Oh, amen. Speaker 3 00:41:51 Amen. Speaker 1 00:41:52 We, yeah, we've pe up so we've been doing a lot of runs in Texas recently and a lot of stuff with guys like Kozel and, and Parker and just seeing the, seeing the, uh, the Texas scene and Buckys you talk about everything's bigger in Texas. There's nothing like a Bucky's. Speaker 2 00:42:07 I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, I've never, I've never seen anything like it. It's, uh, literally, I mean, what, what can't you get at a Bucky's? It's not, let's not talk about what you can get at a Bucky's. Let's talk about what you can't get at a Bucky's Speaker 1 00:42:20 Y You could get your clothes for the day, your breakfast, lunch and dinner. You can get a a like a tree stand. Like you could get a shed, you could get like a, I Speaker 3 00:42:30 Literally got a case for my like mobile podcast stuff whenever I go out on the road that's like a small interface, it's like a handgun case, but I converted it, it's got the pool foam and stuff and it was like 70 bucks at Bucky's, but everywhere else it was like $200. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:42:45 Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:42:45 Yeah. A Bucky's stop on the road is like a 40 minute, like, addition in time. Speaker 2 00:42:50 You could decorate an entire house out of a Bucky's coaching. You Speaker 3 00:42:53 Literally can. So my, my girlfriend lives in Texas and I go out there quite as often to see her and literally like, we'll go and we'll buy decorations for the house, you know, I'll buy a shirt. I've literally like sweated through a shirt on the road and like bought a new shirt at Bucky's. Just that cuz I didn't have anything else clean. Speaker 2 00:43:10 Yeah, dude, it's unbelievable, unbelievable play. Speaker 1 00:43:14 Yeah, it is the top stop if you're in Texas and I wish they had more of 'em. I know they have. I think they have 'em in Alabama too. Speaker 3 00:43:19 Yeah, they got one in Orange Beach, Alabama now. Speaker 2 00:43:22 Oh, cool. Speaker 1 00:43:22 Yeah, I want 'em to come. Could you imagine Bucky's comes to Tennessee. Speaker 2 00:43:26 I don't know if we got enough room for launch Speaker 1 00:43:28 <laugh>. Yeah, I think we're too. Yeah, I think it's too, too jammed up now and they're talking about a water and they're, and they've talked about a water burger coming to Tennessee, which would be cool. Speaker 2 00:43:35 I can, I can see that happening and I will not be mad about that either. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:43:39 Are you, are you big late, going out late now with, I know you have, you have kids and stuff and like you're, you play that, you have that dad role in your life, but when you're out late, are you a Waffle House guy, cookout, or do you go downtown and go to the diner? Speaker 2 00:43:54 Oh man, I hadn't been out like that in a long time, but if I had, I, I'm more Waffle House. I always was Waffle House. Speaker 1 00:44:02 Keep it classic. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:44:04 I, there's just something about sitting down and knowing you can sober up with a little bit of coffee and get your hash brown, however the, the hell you want to get 'em, man, you smother, smother, smothered, smothered covered mothered, smothered. I don't know what it did. <laugh> all that to it. And uh, and yeah, you walk out of there feeling like a million bucks. I mean, the next morning you won't feel like a million bucks, but in that moment you feel like a million bucks. You know, Speaker 3 00:44:29 We've actually had a discussion on worth a, uh, alcoholic Hangover or a what? A or a, uh, waffle House Hangover. Speaker 2 00:44:36 <laugh> <laugh>. Yeah. I think I will take a Waffle House hangover, man. I think I'll Speaker 3 00:44:42 Take a, it's still different, but yeah, it's still, it's definitely a hangover in the morning after Waffle House. It's totally, Speaker 2 00:44:47 It's its own deal, man. It is its own deal. Even when they were closing all the, like, when everything started closing for all the coronavirus stuff, like my Waffle House right up the road, that was the only one that was, it was still open. And I was like, well it's, it's a, it's a necessary business or whatever they're called. Like it's a, like you have to have it, you get, and people have to have that waff house, you know what I mean? Speaker 1 00:45:10 Yeah. It is highly essential for sure. Really it's Speaker 2 00:45:13 The last I'm looking for. Speaker 3 00:45:14 There's a actually a Waffle House business model. They're starting. So our, I was with a Christian band before I was with Muscadine and them, and we broke down outside of Atlanta one night and literally a, the spark plug shot through the floorboard of the bus and it was insane, but whenever we stopped, we like found a waffle house and it was at the time the only one, but now they've added a lot more. But it's a drive through Waffle House Speaker 2 00:45:42 Genius. Speaker 3 00:45:43 Yeah. Like you can still go inside and sit, but they have a drive-through window and it's like a little bit more limited like menu, but you can still get like all the essential stuff that you want. Speaker 2 00:45:55 That's genius, man. That place is the place is printing money, I bet. Speaker 3 00:45:59 Oh yeah, for sure. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:46:00 It's a mu that's a must stop right there when you see, when you see the drive through Waffle House. So we're talk, so talking about the music and stuff, um, you had a, you have a song that you had just that recently got cut and recently got put out and stuff with High Valley, the Canadian Boys. Yeah, those guys are cool dudes. How do you, how'd you, uh, how'd you meet those guys? How do you know them? Speaker 2 00:46:20 I met Brad, um, I met Brad, uh, maybe five years ago, four or five years ago. And um, he had just signed, they had just come, actually, you know what, they had been in town a long time. I take that back. But they had just, Mickey, mine was just getting ready to come out, you know what I mean? And they were, it had some heat there. And man, they're such cool guys. They're, Speaker 1 00:46:44 They're, they're ginormous dudes. They're, he, they're like big guys. Speaker 2 00:46:48 Massive dudes. They're gorgeous dudes. Canadians. They're both like Canadian, Speaker 1 00:46:52 Canadian, Canadian tuxedos, Phoenix shirts, <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:46:56 Yeah, man. And, and, and like the sweetest guys you'll ever meet in your life. Yeah. And then man, you do you know their backstory, like how, from how far north they're from? Yeah, Speaker 1 00:47:05 They're from like way north. Like, um, I dunno if you've ever seen the show letter Kenny, on Hulu, where it's like the country, which letter? Kenny's awesome. We could talk about that here in a second. But like, you think like that is like the sticks, they're from way up north. Like there's nothing, oh, he, Speaker 2 00:47:20 He was, I mean they're, they're from that area of Canada where it's like, and I can't remember what latitude they told me they were at, but it's like, it's the, the, the true like, like during the winter there is like 30 minutes of daylight where it ki the sun kind of comes up and then in the summertime it's like 24 hours of daylight and the sun kind of goes down for like 30 minutes, you know what I mean? Like, they're, they're from that far north. He said in the wintertime, it's like outside of any like gas station or anything, it's all diesel trucks and like, or, or any store or anything like that. He is like, it's so cold. Like they, nobody bothers turning their truck off. Like, cuz you can't like he'll Oh yeah. Freeze up. Like they just like leave the truck. He told me that like, you just leave your truck running like all winter long. Speaker 1 00:48:09 That's crazy. That's a whole, that's a whole nother level cat that's way up in the, in the, in the north there. Like, and they're, they're great dudes. And to see what they're doing up what they've done on the, on the Canadian circuit and then what they've done here in the States, it's, it's awesome. So what was that, what's the story behind, uh, behind that? Their uh, their latest single. Speaker 2 00:48:27 Well, it's cool man. I mean like, when you hear it now, um, it sounds like we were kind of talking about this whole thing going on, you know, but I think we wrote that song in January and um, but yeah man, it just sat down with, um, and I think Sun came up and the river still running, kind of fell out in the room. Um, just kind of, it's like, man, everything's gonna be fine. You know what I mean? It's like, look around. It's like you hear how bad everything is and, and then you walk outside and if, if you, if you just lived under your phone or your computer, it's like, oh my god, the world's in Sky is falling and you walk outside and it's like, it's a blue sky and the birds are chirping and you walk out, it's like, man, it's really isn't all that bad? Everything's all right. You Speaker 1 00:49:11 Know? Yeah. Tur turkeys are still gobbling. It's still Speaker 2 00:49:13 Like, there you go man. All the best things start there. Life Speaker 1 00:49:17 Is good. Yeah. So, um, so that one River's still running. That's awesome. That, that you got that one out there. Um, and then you were talking about, we mentioned letter Kenny, have you watched Letter Kenny? You a fan? Dude, Speaker 2 00:49:26 I, I can't go deeply cuz I've only scratched the surface. I think I've watched two episodes. Okay, Speaker 1 00:49:32 That's a start. It, I'll tell you what it is. It is me for a while that's like all that our friend group was watching and we all worked as, um, we all used to work downtown as bouncers together. So we all had like the earpieces and the radios and every call the managers used to get pissed because we would just be saying Pit or Pat, let's get at her. Or like, Snipes and sells boys, or every code or we'd say like, if there was like a fighter, there was like a kickout that we had to do. We'd say, Hey, you up for a til you up for a Donnybrook. Like all of our code language was letter Kenny Banter. Speaker 2 00:50:03 That's awesome, man. That's awesome. It took me like half a episode to figure out what was going on because it's like you said, it's like they're speaking another language. It's so, Speaker 1 00:50:12 It's so dry. It's very like that British, like the original office kind of humor like Ricky Jervey style. But if you're, but dude, it, it's a good show. We've, we've watched a lot of that. Speaker 2 00:50:24 It's great. I need to get, I need to get back on it. I just did Ozark. I just finished the, I love Ozark season three of Ozark. I'm a big Ozark fan. And then, um, man, what was it? What were y'all's? I did Outsiders on Hulu. That was pretty good. Um, but man, like I said, I, it's like I got so many kids running around in this damn house. I don't have time watch any, uh, any. By the time when I do have time, I'm tired, so I lay down and go to sleep. So Speaker 3 00:50:49 They're actually on Hulu. They have one that they've came out with now that's uh, kind of a spinoff of Letter Kenny. It's like the same characters and all, but it's animated and it's called Little Kenny. And it's supposed to be like aimed at kids like, like problem solving and stuff like that. It's really cool. I actually watched a couple episodes one Speaker 1 00:51:05 Night. They made a children's cartoon so you can watch it with your kids and it's still got pitter patter. Let's get at her and all the, all the references. It's like going back and watching SpongeBob now and seeing all the messed up things that were in, like those Nickelodeon and Disney cartoons that went woosh over our heads that were for our parents. Like that's, it's sneaking some of those in there. Speaker 2 00:51:23 That's awesome. Speaker 1 00:51:24 <laugh>, they've made a letter, a letter. Kenny Cartoon. They do a little kitty, little Kenny up in Canada. They do it all up there. Speaker 2 00:51:31 <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:51:33 Yeah man, there's all, so yeah, definitely check, uh, check that one out, man. So as far as 20, 20 goes, now we're all, we're in obviously interesting times right now. What was kind of the plan for you as far as, as far as like doing the songwriting thing and what your kind of plan was before all this quarantine stuff and what do people kind of gotta look, gotta look forward to in terms of potential cuts and songs that might be coming out? All the Randy Montana fans out there like ourselves? Speaker 2 00:52:00 Yeah, man. No, uh, dude, I just, just writing a lot. I've been writing with, uh, with Luke and with Riley and, um, doing a lot of that. And then also, man, I started working with this guy Tyler Braden, I don't know if you're familiar. Oh, Speaker 1 00:52:14 We're, we're, we're familiar with Tyler. So the guys in his band actually play on Broadway and they, so we used to work at Dirks Bentley's bar at Whiskey Row. And um, the guys that are make up his band, Mikey and, um, Eric and Eric and Dean and Dean and that whole crew, they all play in a cover band together on Broadway. So we know Tyler and his crew. Very, very, in fact, I Speaker 3 00:52:34 Run sound at, uh, whiskey Row still, uh, whenever it's open and all. But I run Monday nights and they're like my closing band every Monday night. So it's Tyler Braden's band, minus Tyler Braden basically <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:52:46 Yeah, dude, that's awesome. Well, his band's great. Speaker 3 00:52:48 Oh, they're awesome. Speaker 2 00:52:49 They're great. But I, but uh, yeah, I've been working with Tyler. Um, he's, he's Speaker 1 00:52:55 Something special, dude. We like him a lot. He's, dude that's a talent Speaker 2 00:52:59 Man. He's a great, great singer, great songwriter. And so, um, so yeah, I produced that. I produced his, his uh, kind of newer stuff he's got coming out. And so I'm really excited about that, man. I mean that, like I said, that guy's super talented and, and, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm excited to see kind of what all the future holds for that guy. Cause he said he is got a great band. He is a great singer and great writer and, um, this guy's the limit for him, I think, you know, Speaker 1 00:53:27 Hell yeah. Yeah. No, we like, we like hearing that. And Tyler another, another, uh, 58 Jonathan Singleton guy too, which is really, which is really dope. And we've, and we've uh, got some good friends in that camp too. One of our good buddies, I don't know if you know Jacob Lutz or not, if you've had the opportunity Speaker 2 00:53:41 Oh yeah, they love Jacob. Speaker 1 00:53:42 So Jacob, we, we first met him when he, you talk about like classes of people moving to town when he first moved to town, hi, his first gig in town was working sound at Whiskey Row. So we became buddies with him very early on. Him and Colton Parker and that whole crew. And, uh, Jake Jacob Lutz Cool, cool dude as well. Speaker 2 00:54:02 He's great man. Super talented. And, and we, we haven't written a song yet, but, uh, but yeah man, I watched him play and he did a whiskey jam. Uh, golly, it was probably end of summer, maybe kind of right around there. And um, dude, it was great man. He's just, he's sounded got that so talent got that bluesy kind of feel to 'em, you know what I mean? And, uh, yeah, y'all are running with a good, uh, good crew of guys, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's, that's a good crew of folks to uh, be associated with. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:54:29 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's just, just doing big things with your friends, you know, like making what the fact that like you get to work with your friends, it doesn't even feel like work, you know? Speaker 2 00:54:39 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Speaker 3 00:54:41 Yeah, for sure. Um, especially like, you know, with the Muscadine guys, like, it never feels like we're working on the road. It's always just a big family thing. We're all just joking around and having fun out there. Speaker 2 00:54:50 Yeah. It's gotta be that way if you're gonna spend that many hours in a, uh, if you're gonna spend that many hours together in a, in a van, you know what I mean? It was like, yeah, I used, I used to say it was, it was the 24 hours for 30 every 24 hours spent together. You got 30 minutes on stage and it was like, cuz you man, it's, it's not, yeah. The show is awesome and that's what you're all doing it for, you know what I mean? But it's like, damn, you spent so much time together before that hotel rooms and like I said, flying around in that van and having to stop at every Bucky's that you see. I mean, it's just Speaker 1 00:55:26 <laugh>. Yeah. Stare neck granola for 30 minutes as our tour manager Lee Langston likes to say when he is trying to get us to move Speaker 2 00:55:32 <laugh>. Yeah, man. Yeah, I get it dude. I get it. And it's like, you better love each other, you know what I mean? Yeah. You better be all right with each other. Speaker 1 00:55:41 Oh yeah, absolutely. No rooms for, uh, no room for egos and attitudes and, and all all that shit. You know, eight guys in a Sprinter van, y'all all packed in tight. Gotta get along, you know. Speaker 2 00:55:49 That's right man. That is right. Speaker 1 00:55:51 Yeah, man. Well, hey man, um, thank you so much for doing this. We really appreciate you hanging out. Yeah. And, uh, taking the time out. Like I said, you're, you're a monster writer, a great dude. We got a lot of mutual friends and look forward to, to hanging out in Nashville once we get back down there and, um, we do writers rounds at Live Oak and stuff as well. It would be great to get you on one of those sometime, maybe get you up there with Gary and Charlie. Speaker 2 00:56:14 Absolutely, man. No, thank y'all, uh, for having me today, man. This has been fun. This was really good. Speaker 1 00:56:20 Yeah, dude, we, we really appreciate it and good luck out in the fields with those turkeys, man. Go and get you one. We'll be watching you on Instagram for when that picture pops up. Speaker 2 00:56:28 I'm gonna need some luck, man. Cause I've, I've run outta, I've run outta answers. I'm outta <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:56:34 Well, you'll you'll get one soon. I'm sure of it, man. Speaker 2 00:56:37 Absolutely. Now. We'll, Speaker 1 00:56:38 Hell yeah. Well Tyler, another episode in the books, dude. Speaker 3 00:56:41 Yeah man. So Randy, real quick, tell everybody where they can find you on like Instagram, Facebook, all that kind of stuff. Speaker 2 00:56:47 Yeah, man. Um, just, yeah, uh, it's there pretty much man. I do Instagram and, and uh, Facebook at Randy Montana for both of those. And um, yeah man, check it out. Speaker 3 00:56:57 Cool man. Hell yeah. Make sure you go check 'em out and hopefully you get to see him. Get one of those Thunderbird soon. Speaker 2 00:57:03 <laugh> Hammer. Hammer. Speaker 1 00:57:05 So hammer down indeed. Think thanks to Randy Montana for joining us here on this episode of the In the Round podcast. You can always check us out. You can check out Randy, of course, on his social media platforms. You can also check us out at in the Round podcast on Instagram at In the Round Pod on Twitter. We're moving along more with the Facebooks hurts us up on there in the round on Facebook. You can also find us on our personal accounts, which are what Tyler? Speaker 3 00:57:30 Um, if you wanna follow my life, it's just a wandering Tyler. If you wanna follow my food, it's definitely food picks with a underscore in between each one. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:57:40 Yes, you can follow when Fu Joe's Eating. You can find me at Matt Beil. So until next time, we will see you back here on the In the Round podcast.

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