India Dupriez

Speaker 1 00:00:13 What is going on? Everyone? Welcome back to the, in the Round podcast. You got Matt and Tyler still? What's up everybody? Up in Delaware in quarantine. We're doing these Skype episodes and we have with us today our first international guest. Very lucky to be joined by the lovely Miss India Dupre, India. How you doing? Speaker 2 00:00:32 I'm good, thanks. How are you guys? I'm doing good. Speaker 1 00:00:35 We're hanging in there. So it's late, um, later in the night. Um, it's 9:00 PM which isn't too late for us. What time is it in Australia right now? Speaker 2 00:00:43 It's currently 11:11 AM <laugh>. So big, big time difference for sure. And we're a day ahead, so it's, it's the 24th I believe today. It's, um, yeah. God, I don't even know what day it is. I'm going crazy. Speaker 3 00:00:56 No, I knows what day it is anymore. I Speaker 2 00:00:57 Think, I think, I think it's Thursday today. And is it, is it Wednesday where you guys are at? Speaker 1 00:01:03 Yeah. Yep. We're we've got it right. I think it's like 14 hours, which is pretty crazy. Crazy. From Eastern Standard time in, in there is like New York and Florida and Washington, DC to what it is in Australia. So where in Australia are you, you're on the Gold Coast, right? Speaker 2 00:01:18 I'm in the Gold Coast. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:01:20 That just sounds beautiful and I love your accent by the way. I'm a sucker for, I I've got, it's funny, you'll hear me and Tyler have two different accents. So I'm originally from New York, so we say like coffee. Awesome, awesome coffee. Awesome. Yeah, coffee just like Joe, Joey from friends, if you're familiar with that program. Yeah. And, and then Tyler is from the deep south, so Speaker 3 00:01:40 Yeah, so I'm from like Alabama. I've been in Nashville though now Alabama. Speaker 1 00:01:43 Exactly. Speaker 3 00:01:44 Fair. Exactly. <laugh>. I've been in Nashville now for seven years though. Yeah. And I, I've done time up in the Northeast to like, I, I've lost a lot of my accent actually, um, compared to what it used to be, so, wow. It used to be a real long draw. It used to take like a month for me to finish a sentence. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:02:01 I, I have people from America trying to mimic my accent all the time, but it's always butchered. It's like, good day, mate. How are you going? Speaker 1 00:02:09 Cranky. Speaker 2 00:02:11 It's like you make us sound so broken. Speaker 1 00:02:13 <laugh> really not sound Speaker 2 00:02:14 Broken. Speaker 1 00:02:15 Yeah. So, so where you're at in Australia right now? What part of the country is that? So is that like, I'm guessing the coast, you're near the water, right? Speaker 2 00:02:24 Yeah. So, so my, my area is known for its beautiful beaches. It's very tropical. Um, always hot. Like the sun's always out. It's very, very beautiful. It's quite hot a lot of the time, but it's not like sticky, humid heat. It's like, it's nice. So I do live in a really, really beautiful part of Australia and yeah, it's, it's on the coast, so we've got all the beautiful beaches and the nice weather and the wind and it, yeah. It's really, really beautiful place. And I feel like a lot of people that come from America to Australia, um, they end up going to that sort of side of things and they always love it. So yeah. I, I live in a beautiful place for sure. Speaker 1 00:03:01 Yeah. See I've never been out of the country and I'm like most Americans, most what? There's so many of us. I think we're the country where the people travel the least. Cuz it feels like everybody in Europe travels all the time. I mean, everything's so close over there. And then a lot of, a lot of, a lot of Aussies and Kiwis like to travel as well with yourself. People from New Zealand and then people in Asia like to travel as well. But I've never been out of the country and I really want to get outside the country and go and check places out. Yeah. Especially Australia. Speaker 2 00:03:31 Yeah, for sure. I mean, for sure it's a beautiful place. I feel like everyone at some point needs to go and like, explore different culture, different cultures and different like way of living. Like, there are so many little things when you go traveling that you pick up on that are different. Like even just the way people interact with each other, like on the street. Like everything is so different. So I think it's probably worth going out and seeing outside of America. But then again, like, there's so many different parts of America too. It's like all the countries in one. Yeah. In one big collective bunch. For sure. Speaker 1 00:04:04 Yeah. So you've been to America before. Speaker 2 00:04:06 Yeah. I loved it. Speaker 1 00:04:07 So, so you were telling us you've, you're first experience, so you're also very young. You're 17, correct? Speaker 2 00:04:15 I I turned 17 a month ago. Yeah. Wow. Speaker 1 00:04:17 So you're doing what you're doing in the music game at a very young age. You used to be very proud of yourself, first off, number two to be, to have come to thank you, to have come to America on a few, on a few trips and to experience the world at such a young age. What was your first impression coming to America and what place in America was it? Speaker 2 00:04:38 So I first went to la um, and I was staying in Marina Delray, which is beautiful, but my first experience was like ch Chick-fil-A, I think. Speaker 1 00:04:49 Oh, nice. Speaker 2 00:04:50 And it is my favorite food Yeah. In the whole world. Like, I, I have beans about Chick-fil-A. I'm not even joking. I love it. And you guys have like, the weirdest, the weirdest stuff. Like, I've experienced the cra like, I was like walking down the street, there's like someone in a horse carriage and then there's like cars without doors. Yeah. And I'm like, I can't believe this is a place people actually live. Like, it didn't even feel like it was real. And then that group of, group of like 20 shirtless skaters would just like skate down and then there's like a horse and I'm like, there's no way this is real. Like, it didn't even feel like I was li I was like actually existing in this place. It was the craziest thing. Yeah. No, it was a very big culture shock. Speaker 1 00:05:36 Yeah. Chick-fil-A you experienced and I agree with that. One of the finer things. Yeah. American culture. We've, we've got a lot of fast food here. Um, chick-fil-A I think is the best of the bunch. Speaker 3 00:05:47 So I'm from, I'm originally from Atlanta, Georgia, which is where Chick-Fil-A originated. In fact, my mom and my mom and the owner of Chick-fil-A used to be kind of close and she used to go to his property all the time. But yeah, like Chick-fil-A, even for Matt versus me, like I grew up with it from the time I was born and it was so foreign to go somewhere. And they not have Chick-fil-A whenever, like Chick-fil-A for us is like McDonald's for the rest of the country. Like it is literally on every corner in it. Wow. Yeah. Went Speaker 1 00:06:16 In Georgia. Yeah. Where I grew up in New York, we didn't have Chick-Fil-A growing up. It was a Southern Oh Speaker 2 00:06:20 You poor soul. Speaker 1 00:06:21 I mean we had like pizza and bagels Speaker 3 00:06:23 All Yeah. They got the best pizza probably. Speaker 1 00:06:24 We've got, see that's what's interesting about America too, is there's so many influences from different other, from other cultures. Where're such a young country. Speaker 2 00:06:31 Yeah. New York has a lot of Italian food, doesn't it? Speaker 1 00:06:34 New York. Oh, hey yo. Yeah. Pizza, pasta. Oh, there you go. Get the hand, get the hands going. Us do gots. Yeah. Um, but yeah, new York's a an interesting place too cause there's just so many people and it gets so crowded and stuff. Yeah. But so, so LA and you said Nashville, anywhere else that you've been, did you do like one of those trips where like, you come in on the west side of the country and go all the way across? Or did you just go to New York Wish Speaker 2 00:06:57 Or LA to Nashville? No, I wish, I wish I, uh, um, so I went to LA a couple times for work purposes, so I went back and forward. But then with my, um, singing school, we all went on a trip to Nashville and I loved it, loved it. But I, like, mom and I were planning on going back in January, but obviously with, you know, COVID 19, we're not really sure if that's gonna be happening. But like, my mom loves Nashville. Like she, she would live there in a day. She's like, I don't even wanna come home. But she loved it. So yeah, I've, I've only been to two places, but I would love to do like a trip of like, I've, I've always wanted to go to New York. I wanna go to, um, like Miami, different places like that. Like there are so many different places because everything's so different, like you said before, like there are so many different things about each one that you can't really go to one cuz then you have to go to this one and then this one's known for this. And there's, there's just so many things, you know, that you have to check out. Like if you're gonna go to America, you sort of have to do the whole trip, you know what I mean? Speaker 1 00:07:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's so, it's so spread out and stuff that it takes a long time to go through and do that. So I gotta ask. So in Australia is now, you know, Nashville's like the music city and like, it's a place where a lot of music production goes down. Same with la, New York, Austin, Texas. Is there a place in new in, uh, Australia where it's like the music hub where a lot of like artists like yourself that are Aussie's go and a lot of like the recording studios are and things like that. Speaker 2 00:08:27 I feel like Australia's at a very different pace in terms of like the music industry. Like a lot of artists get big in Australia and then don't get out of Australia. So, which makes, it makes things really hard for Aussie artists to like, connect that bridge into like, American mainstream music. So that makes things a bit hard. And it's, so we've got like a small handful of famous artists from Australia that like, get on rotation. But I wouldn't really say there's so much of like a specific place. I would say that there are a lot of recording studios in Melbourne as opposed to like a couple everywhere. Like the majority of them, I would say are in Melbourne. That's sort of like the artsy spot Yeah. In Australia. So I, I would assume that's where a lot of it happens. I, I was on a trip recently in Melbourne to do some recording cuz there aren't really many where I'm at. So yeah, I'd probably say Melbourne. Speaker 1 00:09:24 Dope. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome by the way. I mean, I know I said it earlier, I could listen to you talk all day. It's just the accent. Yeah. I love your accent. Speaker 2 00:09:32 I feel like I sound like a bogan. Speaker 1 00:09:34 Like a bogan. What's a, what's a bogan? Speaker 2 00:09:37 A bogans like, huh? Hmm. I don't even know how I'd describe it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, huh? I don't know. Have you guys seen Tiger King? Yes. Speaker 1 00:09:50 Yes. Speaker 2 00:09:51 I would say that they're bogans. Okay. Speaker 1 00:09:53 Okay. That's, that's Speaker 2 00:09:53 That, that's how, that's how I would. But like Southern, I don't know. See that's what I don't, I don't really know how to describe Speaker 1 00:10:01 It. Like the common term, like redneck in the United States kind Speaker 2 00:10:04 Of because the other Speaker 1 00:10:05 Cause way. Cause the other saying that I've heard, so I, a weird thing about me in Australia, so again, I've never been there. We used to, so I used to be a, um, I used to have a radio show when I was in college, in, in university and stuff. And we had like an internet channel where people could listen from anywhere. By some reason, we, we ended up connecting with a lot of Australian country artists. Wow. And we developed a develop, I don't know how we were just drinking lots of whiskey in our early twenties and doing stuff. So we ended up, um, doing a, we would do late night shows and our mistake was we called them down under thunder. We had no idea that there was this thing called thunder from down under. So we used to get all these interesting people calling in from Australia, all these women being like, what are you wearing? What is this? What is that? And we had no idea what <laugh> I was. I was like, I'm drinking a Jack and Coke, like wearing a hoodie. And they're like, oh my God. Yeah. It was all that weird stuff. But anyway, what I was, what I was getting at, we had a guy that, um, one term that I heard of, I, I've heard of Utes, I've heard of feral, like getting feral <laugh> and like whole, these, Speaker 2 00:11:07 These are the most random words that you're using by the way. Speaker 1 00:11:10 I know it's like Speaker 2 00:11:11 The most random words <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:11:14 But like get, but like, like how that people say like getting redneck in the States. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard people use the term getting feral in Australia. Is that a real thing? Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:24 Yeah. Yeah. See that, that, that's pretty, yeah. I could use that word as like a, I'm getting there. Distinction. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:11:31 <laugh>. Okay. It's kind Speaker 2 00:11:33 Of like, yeah, I guess. I guess I feel like whenever I'm watching a TV show and there's like all these Americans and like one Australian, I'm like, you sound so weird. <laugh>. So I can't even imagine what I sound like, because to me this is normal. But whenever I go over to LA I'm mocking you Americans all the Speaker 1 00:11:52 Time. <laugh>. Oh, I bet you are. What? A hundred percent. Oh, I'm so good. And you have every right to We're a very interesting people. All, Speaker 2 00:11:58 All of like the LA girls. Speaker 3 00:12:01 Oh yeah. Speaker 2 00:12:01 I do the best impression. I'm like, oh, Speaker 1 00:12:03 Let's hear it. Let's hear it. Speaker 2 00:12:04 I literally cannot, I literally cannot even handle it. Oh my God. God no. But the thing is that they speak so Speaker 1 00:12:10 Slow, you're spot on. They Speaker 2 00:12:12 Speak so slowly. They're like, I literally cannot, like, I don't even know. And I'm like, why Speaker 3 00:12:17 Are you speaking? See, that's not just LA though. That's like also a lot of the country on, to be honest. We call it basic white girl. Speaker 1 00:12:25 You sound like you're an American girl. Like post sweet post sweet 16 right now with the way you just said that. Oh, I love that. That was, I love that you nailed it. Yeah, you nailed it. You're ready for brunch and Oh, Speaker 2 00:12:37 I can't Speaker 1 00:12:38 Wait. Go to Coachella. All that shit. You're ready to go. Oh my God. Coachella. Speaker 2 00:12:41 Coachella is like the American teenage dream. God, I wanna go to Coachella. Speaker 3 00:12:47 <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:12:49 I hear crazy things about America too. Like in, in Las Vegas apparently you go down the strip and there's like, oh, there's a SpongeBob theme park. Oh, there's a giant squid. I don't know, there's just like, just just random stuff. Speaker 3 00:13:01 I haven't been lost, but it's like I Vegas Speaker 2 00:13:02 Can't believe that, that that is the norm. Like Yeah. That that is a normal thing. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:13:07 And again, it's, it's, we're such a melting pot of different people and there's so much division like being, being that Nashville's down south and me being a, being a New Yorker, um, we're New York and Nashville, very different places and like, just attitudes, mindsets. And even right now with Covid 19 going on, have different areas of the country are affected. Like New York where I'm from, very affected Alabama, where Tyler's from barely any cases. So like that's the thing, when you have such a big country, you get, it's such an interesting, like just Speaker 2 00:13:38 Yeahinteresting how it goes. I was speaking about that earlier. I heard that, um, some of the countries in more of like the southern areas, they don't have as many cases as obviously places like Los Angeles or San Francisco or places. Yeah. Like places like that. I'd say Speaker 3 00:13:53 Part of that definitely is to like, where I'm from, it was like a 20 minute drive to the nearest like gas station. And it was like a 30 to 45 minute drive to the nearest like, place to get groceries in like the nearest like town. Wow. So like where I'm from, I live way out in the sticks. Speaker 1 00:14:10 He's from the bush? Yeah, he's from way out in the bush. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:14:12 The bush. Like, like I live way out there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'm out in the country. And so like, you're just not interacting with as many people. There's not as much, I guess you would say exposure. There's not, definitely not as much like international travel and stuff like that. Like, you know, I've been to Mexico and out of the 40 people I graduated with, I'm probably one of five that's left the country and I'm, wow. I think I'm one of two that's actually left the state of Alabama. Wow. To like live, uh, most people where I'm from, just, they don't leave. They, you know, their mom lived there, their grandparents lived there, their great great grandparents lived there. You know, it's just a generational thing. So you're not getting as much international and you're not getting as much exposure. So it's not spreading as fast because there's honestly not as many people down there. Speaker 2 00:14:58 Yeah. Yeah. I mean that, that, that's what my mom was saying when we were in Nashville. It was like a place. And like a lot of the people that we met, what they were saying is that like, well their moms live there and then it's a very like, like you said, like generational. Yeah. Like people live there and then they grow up, then their, then their kids live, live there and then they bring up their kids there. And I feel like yeah, that, that, that does make sense as to why there isn't as many cases. Cuz no one really feels the need to like spread. Right. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:15:26 Really. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas, whereas Yeah. Throw Speaker 2 00:15:28 Homey Speaker 1 00:15:28 Place. Yeah. Whereas New York, you've got millions of people on a 20 mile island in New York City and everybody's from everywhere. And you got three international airports around the island. Wow. Speaker 3 00:15:39 I think the nearest national airport to me is probably at least a five hour drive. Speaker 1 00:15:45 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:15:46 No way. Speaker 1 00:15:46 Yeah. He's way, he's way out in the way out Speaker 2 00:15:48 There. Like in the stiff. Speaker 1 00:15:49 Yes. He's out there <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:15:52 Yeah. Like I used to, you know, hunt and fish and stuff literally pretty much from my backyard. You know, like we're just, we have land and you know, we live out there and you could pretty much do what you want to do. You know, it's like living out in the bush. Like you can just go and live and be free kind of, you know. Speaker 1 00:16:09 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:16:10 It'd be, it'd be a very like free, just like comfortable living space though. Like, I've always wanted to sort of live in like a peaceful, quiet area. Like you've got your neighbors and it's just like, it's peaceful. Like it's just you and the nature and you're just like living, you're just living your life. Yeah. You know, you know. And it's, it's so beautiful too. Like nature. Like you have the most beautiful rainforests and woodlands and creeks and stuff like that. So Yeah. It sounds, sounds amazing. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:37 Yeah. You get a little bit of everything. It's definitely cool to cool to live that way and stuff. So 17 years old doing the music thing. Um, got music out that we've been streaming, um, doing all kinds of big things. When did you start getting into this whole music world? Speaker 2 00:16:55 I, um, most people start singing when they're like two or three. I started singing when I was 12 cuz genuinely I was just like bored. And so I auditioned for a, it's like a play sort of thing or like a, like a show. Yeah. Um, for the neighborhood. And after that I just got singing lessons and I've been singing ever since. But I think I started taking it seriously at the age of like 13, 14. I started seeing when I was 12. Speaker 1 00:17:24 Dang. Well you so getting in, getting into it a little bit later than some people, but you're, you're off to, I would say you're doing, doing some big things. You're crushing it and uh, pop music is something that's, that's interesting for us. So we we're definitely more on the countryside, like in terms of like the podcasting guests that we've had. So one, you're a first international guest, two, you're our first like pop genre, like that format guest, which is really cool cuz we don't get to talk to a lot of like, pop artists and pop writers and things like that. And that's just like a whole nother animal. So come going, doing, going from Australia to the states in terms of pop music, what's pop music like in Australia compared to the states? Like do you guys jam out to like Billy Eilish, Sean Mendez, people like that? Or do you have your own kinda artists? Speaker 2 00:18:09 I feel like obviously like the chart topping artists will get played on radio, but a lot of Australian music, I think Australian pop is different compared to the rest of the world. I feel like America's pop is very much like formulated a specific way as like, even, even if you look at the most famous pop artists, like they are weird looking. Yeah. Like, like our biggest pop artists, like they just go on stage with like shorts and a shirt, whether if you're in America they've got like the full like bedazzled bling. Yeah. Like big hair extensions. But Australia's just like really, really casual I guess. And like more alternative pop. But going over to LA I sort of, well I actually started doing more country stuff. I um, like a lot of songs I was singing at the start was country cuz my voice really, really does suit country. Speaker 2 00:19:00 But I sort of veered into pop music when I went over to LA and I was just like testing out new things and seeing what worked with me. So at the moment I'm still trying to find like my sound cuz some songs are like, has country influences. Yeah. Some songs have like different influences from different places. Cuz I feel like what's really, really good about this generation is a lot of artists are releasing albums with so many different genres in it so that they're not confining themselves to like a specific lane anymore. Like Halsey's recent album had like rock elements and then couple country songs. And it's just really, really cool to see that you don't have to be in a specific lane anymore. Like you can Exactly. You know? Yeah. Do anything you want. Speaker 1 00:19:44 Yeah, absolutely. And, and somebody that I, I would compare you to, um, in terms of style and it's, I I it's definitely, I'm meaning it as a compliment is Billy Eilish when you're with, with the notes that you can hit and like your, some of, and maybe it might have been your, your recent TikTok video, I noticed you're pretty big on TikTok, right? <laugh>, um, you did a cover. Speaker 2 00:20:02 No, I've, I I I started, I started TikTok. Yeah. I'm still trying to figure it out. I'm not, I'm not hit with the kids. I'm still trying to figure Speaker 1 00:20:09 Everybody Speaker 2 00:20:10 Out. The TikTok Speaker 1 00:20:11 <laugh>. Yeah. Everybody's trying to figure it out. But you had done a cover of, um, of one of Billy's newer songs, um, that was really cool and awesome. But with Billy, they, um, people have been, have been calling her like post genre as in like, she's not necessarily pop, she's a little pop some alternative. There's all kinds of different elements in there. And like you said, that's what's cool about our generation is we're all, we all grew up on so many different styles of music that there's so much blending and crossing going on. Like even within country, you could go from a guy like Luke Combs to a guy like Kane Brown or Sam Hunt, you know? Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Speaker 2 00:20:47 Yeah. It's, it's weird because I feel like pop like, has meant so many different things, like over the years. Oh yeah. It's like pop back then was like Elvis and then there was like glam rock, like that was pop. But what's, what's really interesting about Billy, um, is that she's sort of morphing what pop is. It's like, although you don't really put her in a specific genre of like, she's not pop, she's not this, she's not that. It's like, that's what's becoming pop, you know? Yeah. Changing things up. It's really cool. Speaker 3 00:21:19 Exactly. And you know, one of my favorite honor, uh, I paid a lot of attention back in the day to like Australian charts and stuff cuz for quite a few years, uh, you could actually predict American charts by Australian charts. Australian charts were about four months ahead of American charts. So Really? Yeah. Um, that was something that like back in the day, whenever I went to school for music business and uh, you know, that's something that I'd pay attention to just to find new artists and somebody that I really latched on to that I like a lot is, uh, Gordy I think is how you pronounce it. Speaker 2 00:21:53 Gordy, I've heard Speaker 3 00:21:54 That name. G o r d i I I think Speaker 2 00:21:56 She's, I've heard that Speaker 3 00:21:57 Name's. I'm pretty sure she's Australian or New Zealand. But, uh, all that to say is that she's kind of like that too. Um, where one minute it is a ballad, the next minute it is a pop song and she's even got stuff that's kind of like rapish, uh, almost. But you know, it's something that I feel like today, um, especially like a lot of the people that are coming from Australia and from New Zealand that are popping over to the US a lot of it is stuff that is new, is very fresh and is very genre bending. Meaning that it doesn't, it really doesn't have, you know, walls and boundaries that it goes to, you know, cuz even going back to Lord whenever she came over here, you know, like even that for us was something very new. Speaker 2 00:22:45 Yeah. Australian artists are definitely like, quite unique, which is something that I can definitely applaud Australia for. Like even tones and Eye who's, you know, dance Monkey song obviously blew up like crazy. But she's, she's not the typical like blonde hair, blue eyes. Speaker 1 00:23:02 No, not pop singer. Not at all. She's very much her. Not all. She's very much her own person. Speaker 2 00:23:07 Yeah. And like that, that's just what she does. Like, she just pops on a cap and like a track suit and just does her thing. But Australian artist, like, they're just very unique. Like I think the biggest artist at the moment is Benny. I think that's how I say it. Benny, she has released like some of the biggest songs on the charts right now and she's from Australia, but it's not like normal pop music. It's like pop music with like a twist to it, like an edginess to it, which I can definitely say is really, really cool. And it, and it works in Australia. Like it's, it's what's happening, which is amazing. But I, I wish that a lot more artists like found that bridge from just Australian audiences overseas. But it's, it's cool that you, that you see, um, that four months, there's like a difference between Australian charts and Yeah. Sort of the influence. And that's really cool. Speaker 3 00:23:56 And a lot of that is with like your newer artist, you know, like obviously like if Taylor Swift drops a new album, like everywhere it's going number one kind of. But like with new artists with, you know, people like the Lord, the Billie Eilish, even people like whenever Saw Mendez was getting his start and especially a lot of people that come from Britain, they hit it in Australia before they hit it in America. So it's really cool to kind of see how Australia really leads a way in like new artists and who kind of gets pushed here in the US Speaker 2 00:24:28 It, it's kind of hard to get acknowledged by Australian, um, like radio stations and likes Spotify, Australia and like the company, like the big ones in Australia, cuz there's only a handful of them. But it's like once you get in that, like that circle of rotation, like you will be pushed. Yes. And like you will be driven, but it, it's like getting in that rotation that's like the struggle for a lot of people. Cuz we have so many artists here. Like half my friends are, you know, bloody musicians. Like everybody, there's, there's so many people doing it, but it's, it's hard to get in that circle. But like, once you are in like you can definitely do a lot of things with it. Speaker 1 00:25:09 Yeah. Are the record labels a big thing still over in Australia? Like in terms of like in independent artists than like, cuz we're, we've started this, we're starting to see it more in country here in the States. We've definitely seen a lot of it in like, in like rock bands, like, like that new progressive style of rock. A lot of like the SoundCloud rappers like rap and hiphop. The labels aren't playing as much of a role in Australia. Is the rec is the record label, like institutions still a huge thing as far as something to breakthrough artists? Speaker 2 00:25:38 I think that a lot of artists like around the world are definitely going independent because I feel like at the end of the day, like now with, you know, technology, like it's so easy for people to create an audience cuz we have so many different platforms. Like, it's like it can take one post or one singing video for you to have like 10 million followers on TikTok, 10 million followers on Instagram. And what I've found in America is that some of like the biggest influences are getting signed to these massive labels, but they can't sing. But because they have that big influence over a lot of people, they're like, okay, this person's gonna make money. But I feel like in Australia, a lot of people are going independent, but no one is forgetting the fact that in the only way to really, really like get it to that big level is via those big sources. Because like once you do get acknowledged by those big companies, like then you'll start being like, you'll start being broadcasted, you'll start being played and then more people will be able to hear you. So I think that people are trying to make it so that they don't have to go that way anymore. But I think right now it's still pretty, pretty heavily like important for a lot of people. Speaker 1 00:26:56 Yeah. And I mean, like yourself, you've got music out there right now, know Me, that's your single, um, what's, uh, what went into that one and uh, for you as an independent artist, what was that like, releasing that song? And that was your first one, right? Speaker 2 00:27:10 Yeah, that, that, that was the first song I've released and I wrote that song over in LA but I released it back when I was at home and it, it went really well. I had some, like, I had a couple of radio plays and, and stuff like that and yeah, I'm that, that song I wrote like three years ago. So I'm excited to get some of my newer stuff out that's more updated, that's more me now because that's obviously a very like happy upbeat pop song. But I feel like I have so much more to me than that. So I'm excited to release the stuff that has more of my soul in it and I'm excited to really, really get the ball rolling with some of my newest stuff. So yeah, I'm, I'm really excited. But it was, it was good fun to release that one. I got a really good positive feedback from it, which I wasn't expecting, so I'm really excited. Speaker 1 00:27:59 That's awesome. So coming from Australia, what's the process like of co-writing in, uh, going to LA and writing with a bunch of us Americans or people that you're meeting over there? Speaker 2 00:28:10 I, um, I, I love it. I think that people started taking me a bit more seriously, like whenever I went over to la like I feel like in Australia if, because it's quite like centralized, like people make it in Australia and then that's that the fact that people saw me actually going to LA and doing stuff over there, people got really excited about, they were like, oh, like she's actually doing it. So I, I loved it. It, I was so excited to go over and to write with some amazing people. Like I've, I've written with people that have done Katy Perry songs and like all, all these, all these amazing opportunities I've had and I'm just excited to know, get them all out. It was, it was really different. Like, cuz it's, it's hard to find recording studios and writers and stuff here cuz I feel like there's only like a close knitted circle of them because Australia's so small and then you sort of have to like know someone that's in it and then know that person, but yet there's definitely like a difference between the writing processes in different places. For sure. Speaker 1 00:29:15 Hell yeah. Well, I can't wait for you to come to Nashville and write with people in Nashville because the, the, the songwriter can be, that's part of the reason we started doing this podcast is I have no songwriting experience. I have no musical bone in my body, um, whatsoever. But I used to do doing the radio stuff. I didn't wanna lose the microphone and things like that. So we got the podcast going and find, just speaking with songwriters and like creative people in town. There's so many of 'em. And it's so interesting to talk to the, the folks like yourself that are creating the songs that a lot of people are singing or in your case you, you're putting out yourself. So for you growing, growing up now, um, you said that song that you had put out, um, when you had put out No, you had written it three years ago. So you were what, 13, 14? Speaker 2 00:30:02 Yeah, something like that. So Speaker 1 00:30:03 You were still, so you still, you've matured a lot since then. So give us a glimpse as to what the new stuff, like what we have to look forward to as far as the new stuff. Like what, what have you been writing about recently? What are some some things we have to look forward to? Just, Speaker 2 00:30:17 Just like teenage experiences I guess. I feel like I'm, I'm a good writer. Like I can write lyrics and, but I'm, I'm not very good at melody, so I like, I play guitar and I play piano and that sort of thing. Like, I dabble in it. I'm not the best, but it, I I play enough to be able to write right with it. But I, um, yeah, my, my stuff's a lot. It's showing more of my range. I feel like my first song showed like a small portion, like, like I think my newest stuff, like I'm belting a lot. I'm doing like a lot of, more of what connects with me and more meaningful stuff and things that I'm really, really happy with. So I'm, I'm excited. But I also wrote in Nashville at Blackbird Studio. Speaker 1 00:31:03 Oh nice. Speaker 2 00:31:04 That, that's like the premier studio. Speaker 1 00:31:06 Yeah. That's a good place to be. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:31:09 Um, I remember my, my group went in cuz we all had like, songwriting sessions and stuff and the Eagles walked in and it was just like a casual interaction and then they went in and we went out separate ways and we were like, did that just happen guys? Did that just happen? It, it was crazy. But yeah, I'm really, I'm really, really excited about all of the newer stuff. I've got a new song coming out soon and I'm so pumped, so pumped about it. Speaker 1 00:31:35 Hell yeah. Love hearing that. Um, and uh, as far as, um, like influences for you, who are some people that you're jamming to at, uh, at a, like on a daily basis? Because you, so I'm 25. Tyler's 27. He's 27. So we're a little bit older than you. So like, our generation of like, what was big, like growing up, like we, I remember like the, the, the early two thousands rock phase and like when Little wa when Little Wayne was the shit before Little Wayne before, before like when, uh, Millie came out and like, yeah, that was high school for me. Yeah. And then on the country, then on the countryside, like when Keith Urban first came over from Australia, like Keith Urban, like all, like all that stuff like growing up. So for, it's kind of interesting to ask you like, who are some people that you're really jamming out to right now? Or who are some influences like for you, like what you can consider like, good music? Speaker 2 00:32:27 I listen to like, some of the artists that I listen to aren't like the biggest in the world. Like I know I listen to Lenin Stella at the moment, she's from Nashville. Oh yeah, yeah. She was at, she was, she was actually in the Nashville Show. Yep. Which everyone's talking about except for me. Cuz I haven't seen it. But I, I, I wanna see it so bad. And I listened to Billy Eilish, obviously I love her. I think she's great. I listen to Louis Capaldi, he's one of my favorite artists. He's from Scotland. I think I Ireland, Irish, something like that. <laugh>. Um, I listen to, yeah, it's, I don't know, I listen to a lot of different things. I feel like I connect with songs more than like, specific albums or specific people. Like, I connect with different things. So I, yeah, it's, it's weird. Elena Castillo, she's, she's getting big in America at the moment, but she's still quite small. I, I, yeah, I definitely connect with different songs and different people and they're not like always the biggest yet. But I, I just, I just love that sort of thing. I, I like, I like music that makes me feel things. So Yeah, exactly. Deeper and like, connect connection, different people's voices that's deeper. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Speaker 1 00:33:43 Yeah. See and that's something like, I grow, I didn't grow up very musical at all. I, I felt, I was in band class for like three or four days in elementary school and my parents wrote in, wrote in notes and had meetings with the principal to get me out of chorus class. So I, again, like I said, I got you don't want to hear him sing all. Yeah, I, I, I was on in, in the New York State school system, there's an option, it's called, um, what the heck was it called? It's called General Music and you have to write like book reports on like bands and shit. That's what I did. Instead of singing or playing an instrument, I had to do that because I was so incapable on both fronts in terms of playing an instrument or singing. Oh. So like, that's funny. So like, for me with music, like I didn't look at it from like a deep creative perspective until I moved to Nashville and started becoming friends with songwriters and started living with friends who were, and like I'd be around that. Speaker 1 00:34:35 I helped a lot with that. Yeah. Around that creative process. Like, I didn't know who really know who Billy Eilish was until Tyler started playing the songs in the car and stuff. And I was like, whoa, this chick can sing. And now I find myself as a 25 year old straight male in America listening to Billie Eilish, which is like the weirdest, the weirdest thing. Like I'm, I'm clearly not her demographic whatsoever, but her shit's just so good and deep, you know, it gives you like that appreciation for the lyrics and the melodies and what the deeper meanings are in these songs. Whereas growing up I was just listening to whatever I was listening more for loud guitar and like a rock song, you know? Speaker 2 00:35:12 Yeah. Well I think that's really cool that like you've broken out of that box of what people think like you need to listen to as a certain type of person. Like, I I I appreciate that you can appreciate like, you know, that, that sort of style of things because a lot of people like would be quite weirded out. Yeah. Like a lot of people like, no, I can't listen to that, but I think it's really cool that she's connecting with, so like, when I went to her concert, cuz um, oh Speaker 1 00:35:39 Yeah, what's, what's her, what's her live show like you said you saw her in concert. Where'd you see her and what was that experience Speaker 2 00:35:45 Like? Oh God, I saw, okay, so she obviously sounded amazing. Not that you could hear her because her fans are crazy. So I, I got given tickets to her concert, um, for my manager because he, he knows them whatever, whatever. Anyway, so, so, so we go there, my sister's there, my mom's there, and we're walking past like 80, a group of 80 year olds with Billie Eilish shirts and toddlers and like all ages, all genders, all everything. Like ev so many different people were there, but you could not hear her. And everyone was like, like they had people at the front pulling people out every five seconds because people were just passing out and like breaking bones. I'm actually, people are crazy. Speaker 3 00:36:30 Yeah. I'm actually, I connect over this dude through Facebook, but I'm actually friends with like her head of security and he's like told me some war stories from her concerts of just craziness. Speaker 2 00:36:42 Oh my God. They, they stand at the front and people like lift people up that have fainted and on the ground and Yeah, there's people at the front just pulling people out, like legit every other second. Like, there's just heaps of people just pulling people out and people are fainting. And because people wanna get so close to her that they are like scratching, pulling, biting, punching, like just to get to the front. But then once you get to the front, you can't get out. <laugh>. It's, it's insane. Like, and they, they didn't even, they actually paused the concert halfway through and made people calm down and take a step back cuz people were like nearly dying <laugh>. And this was just one of our concerts and she does world tours. Yeah. So it gets crazy. But she was amazing. Yeah. So like she, the energy and everything, like she was amazing. Speaker 1 00:37:30 Yeah. Something I wanted to ask you too, cuz something that I've noticed. Yeah. I come from like a, like a heavy metal like rock background in terms of like my music interests when I was growing up. So like, it seems like different countries are different kinds of crowds and like in Australia and like in Europe, those big like rock festivals or those, those big music festivals are just another level. Like, y'all have a lot more dedication than the Americans, than the American fans do. I would say like, like our big thing is like Coachella. But then what's the thing they have in Australia? Is it Big Day Out? Is that what it's called? Speaker 2 00:38:03 Uh, splendor in the grass. Speaker 1 00:38:05 Splendor in the grass. Spl in the grass. Okay. Speaker 2 00:38:06 Spl in the Grass. That's what it's called. So my mom was a rock head and she like went to all the big like rock metal concerts and I think she even said, she's like, Billie Eilish was like a different level <laugh>, like all these teenage girls, like Chloe, um, yeah, cra crazy stuff. I think a lot of Australian bands are like, Hmm, how, how do I, how do I even describe it? It's like a lot of like local rock bands very like, dirty and like, not, not like dirty, like dirt on your arm, but like grubby dirty, like just goes hard Yeah. Sort of thing. I don't know, there's a word. There's a word I'm thinking. It's just, it's just not coming out. It's like grudgey, that's the word. Okay. It's like grudgey mely type of stuff. So that is like a big thing amongst a lot of, um, like teen teens. Like there's a lot of like, local, local bands that Australians go crazy over. But yeah, I have to say like, especially like in Europe. In Europe and places like that, like people go hard. Yeah. It's like a different Speaker 1 00:39:08 Level. Just, just like they do with soccer. Like the Yeah, like the, the, the soccer hooligans are a lot worse than our worst. They gotta go crazy. The worst, the worst sports fans that we have. We have some crazy football fans that are like American football fans that are in California. Like the Raiders fans are tough. The San Francisco 49ers fans are rough. And we have the Eagles fans. They have, we have like jail cells. Patriots too. Yeah. The Patriots, the, like the American football teams where the fan bases get really rowdy, but then you look and see what's going on, like how soccer fans get, or I guess in Australia's case how rugby fans get, like when y'all play, who is it? Um, it's you guys in New Zealand and rugby, right? I don't know if you're a big sports person or not. Speaker 2 00:39:49 I'm, I'm definitely not. Okay. But I I I I go to school with heaps of people that are, and like that it's, it's all that people talk about really. Like sport is a quite a big thing here with like Yeah. Like you said the rugby and the football. But isn't America like more baseball sort Speaker 1 00:40:08 Of. So it should be, and we're both big baseball fans, fans. Yeah. We're both big baseball guys. But, but the, but I mean, what's interesting, I mean we have so many different sports. I mean, where I'm from in New York, we've got two baseball teams. We've got technically three football teams. We've got two soccer teams, three hockey teams, two basketball teams. And like, I mean we've got like 15 to 20 professional sports teams in our city. Like Yeah. Or in our, in our area. So the thing is like baseball's the oldest, like baseball was around before all the other sports were like it was being played first, but now it's like for whatever reason, I mean each ci I mean every city it's gonna be different. Like in New York it's big cause we have Yankees, which the New York Yankees are a global thing at this point, but then other places football might be bigger and Nashville hockey is the big thing, which is interesting. Hockey because hockey really, hockey is a very big like northern thing and very big up in Canada and in Russia and random places where there's snow all the time. Nashville's not one of those places where it snows all the time, but people go nuts. Is Speaker 2 00:41:13 Is hockey on ice? Yes. Speaker 1 00:41:15 Yeah. Hockey's on ice hockey. It's bigger people like, so I'm about 5 9, 5 10. I'm a smaller dude. Tyler's about six four. He's a bigger dude. It's people like Tyler on ice skates going, Speaker 3 00:41:26 Going about 25 miles an hour at each Speaker 1 00:41:27 Other. <laugh>. Yeah. Just crashing into each other. Yeah. And fighting and putting the puck in the, in the net. And it's rowdy. It's hockey. I'll send, I'll have to send you, um, you'll have to look it up on YouTube. Like just some crazy hockey things. Hockey's like a collision Speaker 2 00:41:42 Sport. Yeah. I'll have to look it up. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:41:44 That's insane. So I guess Speaker 2 00:41:45 So that's, that's terrifying. Speaker 3 00:41:46 And there's even like cities where basketball's the big thing like Atlanta where I'm from originally, um, the basketball court, they just did a renovation to the arena and they've got like, you know, a court side bar now, but they also have a barbershop that like overlooks the court and like per seat, NBA tickets are probably the most expensive tickets because there's like, I don't know, you can fit 20 to 40,000 people in an NBA arena, but like the upper deck where you can still barely see the players is still like 50 to $75 a ticket and like to sit on the court. It's like, you know, usually 10 to $25,000 for a regular game and then you start getting into playoffs and it can go up to a hundred thousand dollars for a ticket. It's Speaker 1 00:42:37 No kidding. It's Yeah, it's, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that's, and that's the thing too with American sports is everything's so, I mean, our country in general, it's all very commercialized and things get very expensive and money just get, you have, you have athletes that are making hundreds of millions of dollars to play sports, you know? Yeah. It's, it's crazy. Um, Speaker 2 00:42:57 I, I found so something's really interesting. You guys have different taxes in different states, don't Speaker 1 00:43:03 Oh yeah, very much so. Yes. Cause Speaker 2 00:43:05 I was so confused. So I, I went into like the 99 cents store or something fascinated the hell outta me. Speaker 1 00:43:11 <laugh>. Oh yeah. Oh, next time when, when you're in Tennessee again, cuz next time you're in Nashville, once all this covid stuff is over, we're definitely gonna have to hang out. I want to take you to a, do I want to take you to a Dollar General? Speaker 3 00:43:25 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:43:26 It's like, it's not, Speaker 3 00:43:27 Everything's a dollar. Don't, don't let that fool Speaker 1 00:43:29 You. Not everything's a dollar. It is a southern staple. But what was your experience at the 99 cents store like? Speaker 2 00:43:35 So I go in, I'm like, okay, four loaves of bread for 99 cents <laugh>. I'm like, okay. So I keep, I keep walking, I'm like, there's a one meter tall fan, 99 cents, keep walking. I'm like, huh, 10 pizzas, 99 cents. I'm going, I'm looking over there. There's like, you can get like school books, all like, all different types of food. You can get a bag of grapes, get like just the craziest stuff. There's like full-sized just like fishes, just like frozen fish. Like 99 cents. Go grab some salmon. Hold on. Okay, hold on. I paused. Okay. Yeah. And it was just the weirdest experience. I grabbed myself a watermelon, I grabbed myself some grapes and I left <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:44:25 But 99 cents a piece, $2. What? What a deal. Speaker 2 00:44:29 <laugh>. The way that I was thinking, I'm like, why do people go anywhere else to get literally anything? It's like cleaning suppliers Speaker 1 00:44:37 Quality. It's go, yeah, Speaker 2 00:44:38 It's the grab your mop 99 cents, grab your bleach, 99 cents. It's like, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. We call that Speaker 3 00:44:47 Store the, uh, college kid specials because the college kids, you're Speaker 2 00:44:52 Broke. The thing that got me, the thing that got me is like, you walk in with like $20, I don't know if you guys call them dollars, like the $20 note. Yeah. And then you get 20 things that are 99 cents and then you go up and it's like, okay, that'll be $25. And it's like, but that said 99 cents and that said 99 cents. They said yes, but tax. And I'm like, okay, but like, do people walk around with calculators like figuring out the tax? So, because if not, if something says 99 cents, if something says 99 cents in Australia, it's 99 cents. And you know that Speaker 3 00:45:23 99, there are certain states that are like that here. Speaker 1 00:45:25 Yeah, yeah. There are. Is there? Yeah. Yeah. Mo Yeah. Some states, so there's areas of the country that are a lot more expensive to live in. Like where I'm from in New York, it's, you've got la la for example, like where you were in la that's one of the most expensive places to live in the United States. Yeah. Like to live in na like Nashville to some it's getting there. Nashville to some people's very expensive. To me coming from New York, Tennessee is incredibly affordable compared to where I'm from. Yeah. Like you, like just the cost of living like, like and how much, like what you need to survive, like to live in New York, like you need to make like 80 to $90,000 a year to like be comfortable. You could make $30,000 a year and live the same way that you live in New York by living in Tennessee. Yeah. Most other states you can, there Speaker 2 00:46:13 Are some beautiful like, big houses in Nashville. Oh Speaker 1 00:46:17 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:46:18 And that would cost the same price as like a normal sized house in somewhere like LA Yeah, because I was, I was driving through and I'm seeing the most beautiful like, like mountainside and like these beautiful like big old houses and like these big beautiful trees. It was just, I, I loved, I loved Nashville so Speaker 1 00:46:37 Much. Yeah. Yeah. 10 Tennessee is a beautiful area. Um, because you get quite a few different things. The one thing that you don't get though, and I miss this being a, and I know Tyler misses it too because he grew near the coast. Yeah. We don't have a beach. Like you're landlocked being in Nashville, Tennessee, the nearest beach is hours and hours and hours away. Speaker 3 00:46:55 The nearest beach is where I'm from. Really? Yeah. The nearest beach is where I'm from about seven and a half hours away. Speaker 1 00:47:02 Yeah. Cuz you're landlocked. You're in the mountains, like you're in the center of the country or nowhere near the coast. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, Speaker 3 00:47:08 See I grew up like an hour from the beach, so like, you know, I was close enough to where I could make a day trip, but like I was far enough away where I didn't have to deal with all like, the annoying tourist of it. Speaker 2 00:47:20 So. Yeah. True. I mean like for where, for where I live, it's like a, like if, if I was to walk there from my house, it'd probably take like an an hour Yeah. Or something, but like, it's like a five minute drive. Yeah. Like everybody goes to the beach here cuz it's, you know, just there. And we've got so many of them, but I can't even imagine what life would be like to just not nick down to the beach. Yeah. But you've got like heaps of like public pools and stuff though, wouldn't you? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:47:47 Yeah. We got a big lake. We got a big lake, but it's like not the cleanest of places. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:47:53 Fair Speaker 3 00:47:53 Enough. Yeah. I don't know. And like, it's weird too cuz the part of the country where my beaches are at, it's like pure white fine sand. It's some of the whitest beaches in the world. Um, it's like Pensacola Beach, Destin, like that kind of stuff is like Florida. Speaker 1 00:48:08 Yeah, Florida. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:48:09 Florida. So I live right on the Florida, Alabama line. But you know, like even going up to where Matt lives and like, even farther up north, like it's all like dirty to me, you Speaker 1 00:48:18 Know, it's like rock. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:48:19 It's like rocks or it's like gray or it's just, if it's not purely white, my first instinct is like, this beach is disgusting. Wow. Speaker 1 00:48:28 Yeah. Every, every, every state is kind of like its own little mini country or every region where you got like, yeah, the north, you got the south, you got out west, you got the Upper West where like Oregon and Portland and like, like Portland and Seattle. Those are areas I've never been to. Me neither. Like, I, like there's most, most areas around the country. Like now me and Tyler have a gig where we tour with a band and I sell merch. Tyler does, um, production stuff. He's the front of house and production director. So we get to tour around and see the country. But if it weren't for That's amazing. If it weren't, if it weren't for that, I wouldn't have, like there's areas of the country I would've never gone to and then I've never needed Speaker 3 00:49:04 To go. There is a country inside the country and that country's name is Texas. Speaker 1 00:49:08 Yeah. And then Texas is a whole nother, Texas is another Have you been to Texas yet? Speaker 2 00:49:12 No. Speaker 1 00:49:13 Oh man. When you come to the states, and we're gonna have to talk, we're gonna have to talk with, uh, with Nate about this too. We gotta get you, I just wanna see your reaction to the state of Texas. Speaker 3 00:49:24 My girlfriend's from Texas. Oh my God. So like, I got, I Speaker 1 00:49:26 Lot go to Texas every, Speaker 2 00:49:27 I mean, I wanna, I wanna see all the big stuff. Yes. Like Speaker 1 00:49:30 Burgers, there's Yeah. Big drinks. Speaker 2 00:49:32 Oh. Speaker 1 00:49:33 Oh, you have no idea. It is another level. Speaker 3 00:49:35 I don't know what like your normal size portion for like a fast food drink is, but there's a place called Whataburger and it's not even the worst in Texas, but their like large drink is like a good like 54 ounce drink. Speaker 1 00:49:48 Yeah. Like their, their cups are like this, like Yeah. They're in, in New York in New York, they're like this. They're Speaker 3 00:49:53 Small as like 32. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:49:54 They're small. They're, Speaker 2 00:49:56 So, I, I went, I went to the Cheesecake Factory in Speaker 1 00:49:59 Australia. There you Speaker 2 00:49:59 Go. In Australia, if, if you go to a McDonald's and you get a large drink, it's like this big maybe, right? Yeah. Like that big. I go there and I'm like, small lemonade, please. Speaker 3 00:50:13 Yep. Yep. Speaker 2 00:50:15 They, they just plop it down on my table and I look at my mum and my mum looks at me and I said, I said, small, right? And she said, yeah, here, here's your small lemonade. And mum looks at me and she's like, that's not a small lemonade. And then my fruit comes out and usually our burgers are like this big. Yeah. It was like, Speaker 3 00:50:34 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:50:34 And I'm like, this is small. Yeah. This is a small size. Yeah. I can't imagine what, Speaker 1 00:50:40 Yeah. The other thing with big size is, yeah. And that's the other thing too about Texas. And again, with just the northern and, and southern and different regions of the country in Texas, people not necessarily like, wide, like, like they're like, they're like outta shape, but people are just larger. Like the average per like, like everything's just bigger Speaker 3 00:50:57 In Texas shoulders, like, you know, all the guy they're built. Yeah, they're, the guys are really Speaker 1 00:51:01 Built, usually they're, they're built to be like tackling a cow or something in a field. Yeah. Like they're built to be like oil and cowboys and this and that. And Texas. I, I've had a good time in Texas, but I love Texas. There, there's a lot of interesting places around the states. So when you get a chance, you definitely have to, uh, tour around and check out the variety that we have to offer here in the United States. Speaker 2 00:51:23 <laugh>. I mean, I, I I wanna see a moose so bad. I Speaker 1 00:51:26 I do. You do Speaker 2 00:51:27 Too. Yeah. The first time, the first time my mom and I went to la it was our sole, like purpose <laugh> to find a squirrel. We have never seen a squirrel. Some people in Australia don't even think that squirrels exist. Oh, really? Speaker 1 00:51:41 Because the, but we don't think the kangaroos exist because we don't have those. Y'all, you can go outside and just hang out with a kangaroo. It's like, like, well mean some wish Speaker 2 00:51:51 A koala. Sometimes they just hop around. Your front yard are cool. Okay. Speaker 1 00:51:54 Are koala bears really as dangerous as people say they are. Like, they'll, they'll get you right. Like you gotta be careful with 'em. Speaker 2 00:52:01 You need to look up on YouTube, a video of them screaming. They, they scream and they screech and they like burst people's eardrums. And they have got these claws <laugh>, but they're kinda cuddly. They, they're, they're very like tourist attractions. Like Yeah. Australians don't, don't really like fuss over the that much. They're like, yeah, whatever, koalas. But people are like, oh my God, I wanna see koala. I wanna see kangaroo. And it's like, okay. But Australia, I mean, our spiders are the size of dinner plates. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:52:27 Like big dinner plates. I'm not, I'm not ko that Speaker 2 00:52:30 Lizards, lizards on the wall. Speaker 3 00:52:33 I'm out <laugh> not with that life. It's, Speaker 2 00:52:37 It's crazy. Speaker 1 00:52:37 I wanted, I Speaker 2 00:52:38 Want do, but the wanna the, the first time we saw a squirrel was the most exciting thing. We were like freaking out. Like, mom got our front as she's like, look, it's our first squirrel. Speaker 3 00:52:46 I used to catch squirrels like all the time. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:52:48 It's funny, we, we, there's, there's people in America or, or squirrel is like cuisine. Like, like somebody, like in certain areas. Particularly not the little Speaker 2 00:52:56 Fluffy squirrels. Speaker 1 00:52:58 Well, well they're not little fluffy. They're, they're size of, they're the size of raccoons. Like they're, these are, these are, these are, Speaker 2 00:53:03 I dunno what a raccoon is. I've never seen Speaker 1 00:53:05 You don't know what a raccoon Speaker 3 00:53:06 Is? A trash pando. Are you kidding me? Oh, I love trash pandos. Wow. Hold. Speaker 1 00:53:10 I didn't know that though. We have to picture, Speaker 2 00:53:12 He showed me what a raccoon Speaker 3 00:53:13 Is. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely will show you a raccoon. Speaker 1 00:53:15 This is the most fun I've had on a podcast. I love this. This is great. Speaker 2 00:53:19 No, I guess it's cause like different countries you don't even realize like the small differences that we have. Yeah. Yeah. It's like what? Speaker 1 00:53:27 Raccoons. Oh, Speaker 2 00:53:28 Raccoon. Speaker 3 00:53:29 Okay. Here is a raccoon Speaker 2 00:53:34 <laugh>. It's got a mask on. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:53:38 Yeah. So they're like bandits kind of thing. Like they, they like, so I used to catch raccoons for like a living, cuz you can sell their, how big are Speaker 2 00:53:46 They? Uh, Speaker 1 00:53:47 There's some, there's some That'll be pretty big. Speaker 3 00:53:49 Yeah. There's some that can be like, like some of 'em are small. Some of 'em, you know, like, Speaker 2 00:53:54 Like the size of a dog or something? Like a Speaker 3 00:53:56 Small dog. Some Speaker 1 00:53:57 Of 'em the size of my dog. Yeah, yeah, Speaker 3 00:53:59 Yeah. Like a small dog. Speaker 1 00:54:00 I have a, I have a small dog. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:54:01 Yeah. Some of 'em are like the size of a small dog, but like most of 'em are, you know, I'd say a little bit smaller than that. But you know, you can catch 'em because like, I actually had so funny story real quick. Um, I was in the mountains of North Carolina and we were playing a show. I was touring with a Christian act at the time, um, before I got into country music and all. And I left a pair of Ray Band club masters, so like really nice sunglasses that had reflective lenses. And they, I, we left our bus parked underneath the street lights so that we could see it. Cause the whole rest of the place was dark. We had a lot of good gear on that bus. Somewhere in the middle of the night, a raccoon climbed in on our tour bus, stole my ray bands and left. And we know because we found the fur. Yeah. They are sneaky. If sneak they have something, Speaker 1 00:54:50 They're Speaker 3 00:54:50 Sneaky, but if they see something shiny, they want it. They're Speaker 1 00:54:54 Like, it's like a child. Like, Ooh, shiny, shiny. I gotta have Speaker 3 00:54:57 Literally, like, I used to hunt 'em. And the way that you would hunt 'em is you'd put, you'd like burrow out a hole in a log and you'd put like some nails in there big enough for it to reach its hand out, hand in. But then it would grab that like shiny penny or dime and it wouldn't be able to bring it out. And they'll either sit there until they die or they'll like chew their arm off because they won't let go of that. So object. So we call 'em trash pandas Speaker 1 00:55:23 <laugh>. Yeah. We, yeah, we, yeah, we refer to 'em as trash pandas. Really? Speaker 3 00:55:27 Yeah. They're like, so Speaker 2 00:55:27 They, they they, they're just not gonna let go of it. No, because it's shine. They're really, they would, they would rather die Speaker 3 00:55:32 Their their arm off. Speaker 2 00:55:33 They would rather eat their arm off Yes. Than let go of the shiny Speaker 1 00:55:36 Object. Yes. And they're nocturnal animals. They're only out at night. Speaker 2 00:55:40 They stole your raybans. Speaker 3 00:55:41 Yeah, <laugh>, like raybans would mirror lenses. So they were like $250 pair of raybans. I was livid. My girlfriend at the time had got 'em for Christmas. This was probably three months after Christmas. And she was even more livid. Speaker 1 00:55:56 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. This is a Speaker 3 00:56:01 Great, Speaker 2 00:56:01 I can't believe that happens. I, Speaker 3 00:56:03 I, Speaker 2 00:56:03 Trust me. So do do you just see them? Do you just see them like hanging around? Like are they quite common? Speaker 1 00:56:07 Yeah. So, so they're pretty s they're like, they're pretty skittish I would say. Like, they're not gonna come up to you. I mean, Speaker 3 00:56:13 They're in certain, in certain areas. They're not as skiddish as others. Like, especially like how turkeys are for where you're at. Like, yeah. Speaker 1 00:56:19 Do you have turkeys? Speaker 3 00:56:20 No. Speaker 1 00:56:21 Do you know what a Turkey is? Speaker 2 00:56:23 N no. <laugh>? Yes. I know what a Turkey is. Speaker 1 00:56:25 Okay. See we're start. Yeah, we're learning. We're learning. Fine. Speaker 2 00:56:28 They're not like big fat, colorful turkeys. Like you guys don't you guys have like a Thanksgiving thing called? Don't you guys have like a thing called Thanksgiving? Yeah, that's about Turkey. Hey, isn't that about Speaker 3 00:56:39 Turkey? You eat Turkey, Speaker 1 00:56:41 Eat Turkey. It's, yeah, it's, yeah. Yeah. You eat Turkey for dinner. It's, it's technic. Speaker 2 00:56:44 Is it like, is it like a Christmas but before? Is it, is it like a second Christmas? Speaker 1 00:56:49 I mean, it'd be dope if it was second. Speaker 3 00:56:51 It's like a Christmas but for food. So like, you just eat it's, and like, it technically it was like supposed to be like, you're supposed to give thanks. Like, originally, like the original story was like, it was a meal that was shared between like pilgrims and natives here to like give thanks and like stuff like that. So that's Speaker 1 00:57:11 When, when in reality that it's, it's, it's um, the, um, origins of Thanksgiving are a little, little questionable, but it's, it's a time where the family gets together and then the day after Thanksgiving in perfect American spirit, we have Black Friday, which is when all the stores open at like three o'clock in the morning and everything's like 80% off and you can get like a TV for like $20. And like people run over over Speaker 2 00:57:36 Each other. Other's, I love learning about America. You guys are the craziest Yes. <laugh>. Oh, Americans. I tell ya. <laugh>, we, I have got a question. I feel like, so I only, cuz I'm from Australia, I don't really know how like the rest of the world sees Australians. When you guys are like at school, do you guys like, does, does everyone know what Australia is like? Does everyone know of Australia? Like, is it one of those countries? Because I feel like there are some countries like Russia and everyone, everyone knows what Russia is, but then there are some countries like Venezuela. I don't, I don't know. I mean, there are some many countries that no one knows about. Speaker 1 00:58:14 I mean, y'all are an island, so like it's easy to identify Australia on a map. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I could easily identify Australia on a map. Um, and I mean, I knew what Australia was like. It's, it's easy. Not, not Speaker 3 00:58:27 Much necessarily as much. So Speaker 2 00:58:28 It's a thing people know. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:58:29 We know about Australia and we like know like obviously like y'all have kangaroos. Y'all have koalas like the Sydney, Speaker 1 00:58:35 Steve Irwin, Keith Irvin, Steve Speaker 3 00:58:38 IWiN, and then like, you know, the Sydney Opera House and like stuff like that. Like we know, like that kind of stuff. Speaker 1 00:58:43 Find Finding Nemo. You ever seen that movie? Yeah. You ever seen Finding Nemo? Speaker 2 00:58:48 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:58:48 Yeah. Okay. See, so there's another, another <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:58:52 Yeah. Yeah. So like that's, Speaker 2 00:58:54 I just realized that Finding Nemo was based in Australia. Yeah. I actually had no idea. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. There you go. You're teaching me about Australia now. <laugh>, Speaker 3 00:59:03 But yeah. But Speaker 1 00:59:03 Like, it's something else similar. Learned about Australia. So me and Tyler, and again, you've been to Nashville, you know the animal that is Broadway, you're a little, little younger. You haven't gotten to fully experience it yet. You're not the legal drinking age of 21 yet here in the states when you're at that point, you'll experience Broadway in Nashville, Tennessee. It's, it's to Speaker 3 00:59:21 An animal, Speaker 1 00:59:22 It's 40 plus bars all next to each other on the same street. They're all multi-level. So the bars are open. Oh Speaker 2 00:59:28 No, I, I, I went there, I went down the street and I saw them all. And Speaker 1 00:59:31 Like, so me And Speaker 3 00:59:33 When were you there? When were you in Nashville? Speaker 2 00:59:35 I was not last January, but the January before. I Speaker 3 00:59:39 Least It's grown even more since then. Speaker 1 00:59:41 Yeah, it keeps, yeah. It's it's the fastest growing. It Speaker 2 00:59:44 Was already massive. There was like five layers each. They're all like next to each other. There's yeah, there's even more now there's like lights. It's like a mini Vegas looking Yeah. Speaker 1 00:59:51 Light and everything. Yeah. And Nashville's the fastest growing city in the United States. Or one of, there's like, there's three. It average at one point it was averaging out to like a hundred people a day moving there Speaker 3 01:00:02 For like three years. Four years. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:00:03 So it's, wow. It's grown up. But me and Tyler were, we've um, we were bouncers at Dirk Bentley's bar in Nashville. Um, and Speaker 3 01:00:11 I ran sound also there. Speaker 1 01:00:12 And so we would check IDs to see like I'd be at the front door. I I was very good at catching fake IDs. So like when kids were trying to use fake. Oh yeah. Oh, we have a book Yeah. Of like 800, 900 fake IDs that myself and my two roommates back in Nashville have like confiscated and we have, I don't think we have an Aus a fake Australian id. We have fake uk UK I do Speaker 2 01:00:32 Take them, Speaker 1 01:00:33 Yes. I take Speaker 2 01:00:34 You take the IDs off them. Speaker 1 01:00:36 I do, I do. I take them as if's fake. Speaker 2 01:00:37 It's you monster. Speaker 1 01:00:38 If it's fake. I mean, see there's not a whole lot to look forward to when you're a bouncer. Like you're dealing with a lot of shit, you know, like, it, it's cool. It Speaker 2 01:00:47 Hasn't, you probably are, you're probably doing with a lot of like drunk, annoying, rude people. Completely Speaker 3 01:00:51 Sober. Speaker 1 01:00:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Completely sober. And we're, and we're completely No, Speaker 3 01:00:55 We we're completely sober. There're a bunch of drunk bambling idiots. Oh Speaker 1 01:00:58 Yeah. What's, yeah, yeah. What, what's But what what I was gonna say is the Australian folks, because we, everybody from everywhere comes to Nashville. The vacation, like when you come to America, it's like a spot where people go. Australian folks, especially the Australian military guys, they can party and drink with anybody that I've seen. And some Speaker 3 01:01:19 Of the nicest people Speaker 1 01:01:19 Too, some of the nicest people Speaker 3 01:01:21 I've never had to kick out somebody from Australia. And if I've had to ask them to leave, they immediately get it and they just walk out, they'll, there's never been an issue. They'll, Speaker 1 01:01:29 They'll shake your hand and be like, okay, cheers. And they'll go to the next bar and they'll just run across the street arms and you get 'em going and they're doing the Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy. Like they're just, oh Speaker 3 01:01:39 Yeah. Well we had a band that played, that's one of the most popular bands that's from Australia. Their name is Dazy and uh, yeah, they would do that all the time. But yeah, it's really cool. Um, I think they're from Melbourne. Speaker 1 01:01:52 Yeah. So get, Speaker 2 01:01:53 I I think it would, I think it would be a little bit harder, um, if you guys were bouncers in Australia because the legal drinking age is 18 instead of 21. Well Speaker 1 01:02:01 That's how it is around the world. And that's how it should be in America. Like again, it's one of those weird Speaker 2 01:02:05 Things. Well, I I I assume that your teenagers obviously drink alcohol though. Like before, like they obviously will get around the rules, right? Speaker 1 01:02:13 Yeah, I mean they will. I mean, I consumed my, my first drinks long before I was the legal drinking age of Speaker 3 01:02:18 21. I was a straight edge person and didn't drink till I was 21. But that's beside the point. Everybody I knew did. Speaker 1 01:02:25 Yeah, no, there's if Speaker 3 01:02:26 If you want it, you can get Speaker 1 01:02:27 It. Yeah. But it's just the institution, it's just the idea of like going into a bar and stuff. And that's where a lot of, when folks come in from the UK or come in from Australia or Italy or China or whatever, and they, they forget that you have to be 21 to drink in the states and you get em at the the court. Is that Speaker 2 01:02:43 The thing that happens? Yeah. People like not realize. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:02:46 They don't realize like, especially if you're 20. So Speaker 2 01:02:48 Then do they like rock up and show their ID and it says like that they've turned 18. Yeah. And then they're Speaker 1 01:02:53 Like, I'm just like, hey. I'm like, hey bud. Sorry, it's 21 and over right now. And, Speaker 3 01:02:57 And even some states are a little bit different. Like in Massachusetts, which is in the northeast, like, um, a parent can buy a beer and slide it across the table to their kid as long as they're 14 or over. But you, Tennessee, you can't do that. What I was telling, we've got people that have tried to do that in Tennessee and like we kick 'em out. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:03:17 Going back Speaker 2 01:03:18 14 is definitely a lot younger than 21. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:03:20 But yeah, Speaker 3 01:03:21 Massachusetts is also one of those weird states where they <laugh>, they're all a alcoholics. Speaker 2 01:03:26 It's a Texas Also weird though. Like it depends. Doesn't Texas have some weird Yes, it Speaker 1 01:03:30 Laws. Yeah. It depends on your, on, on your definition of like every does weird, every state's different. Like to pe to me being from New York, the ideas of like the southern region are very different and like the morals and stuff. And then Speaker 3 01:03:43 Like there's a, uh, there's a law on the books in our town, the town that I'm from in Alabama that says you can't ride your jet ski down Main Street. And it's because our town flooded and some idiot brought his jet ski out and started riding it down Main Street and blew out all the windows of the shops. Speaker 1 01:04:00 Yeah, Speaker 2 01:04:00 That's an actual Speaker 3 01:04:02 Rule. Yeah, that's an actual rule. Speaker 1 01:04:04 <laugh>. Yeah, there's some interesting, um, interesting laws and you could look all those up. I don't know the specifics of all of them, but I mean, when you have 50 states, including Hawaii and Alaska, which aren't even connected to us, we just haven't. And technically we have Puerto Rico, I don't know the full Guam and Guam, which Guam is closer Speaker 3 01:04:22 To. Yeah. Virgin Islands like Guam. Speaker 1 01:04:23 Guam is closer to y'all than it is to us. And yeah, it's crazy. So as far insane. So for you with, with music, going back to music real quick, um, are you looking to stay in Australia? Has it come up about you maybe going to a place like LA or coming to a place like Nashville to pursue music as you get older? I know right now you're still at that age, you're 17, like you got your whole life ahead of you. You're still, still growing up in a way. Um, but have you thought about moving somewhere in pursuit of music? Speaker 2 01:04:55 Yeah, definitely. I feel like it is hard being in Australia when I'm managed in LA because it's like, there are so many like different business meetings and different, you know, opportunities and different things that I would love to be a part of. But obviously it makes things hard when you're on the other side of the world. So when you're 18 in Australia, that's sort of like when you become an adult, you know, you can vote, you can drink, you can do all these different things. Like you're an adult when you hit 18. So I believe I'm gonna be moving to LA once I hit 18. Hey. But, but when I, when I'm older, I think I definitely wanna like live in Nashville. Like I wanna retire in Nashville. Yeah. Love area. Hell is awesome. Yeah, I wanna, I definitely like wanna be in Nashville for a lot of the time because like, I'm gonna be completely honest, when I was like, when my school announced that we were going to Nashville, everyone was like, oh, but tumbleweeds Oh, but cactus like in Australia, Nashville and Tennessee and everything like that is like, we just imagined just like a desert and like a tumblewee <laugh> Speaker 2 01:05:56 And Speaker 1 01:05:57 A cactus. That, that is Texas. That is a majority of Texas. Texas, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico. Like, like that's, that's what Nevada, when you go to, if you eventually end up in like Texas and then Las Vegas is like that too. Las Vegas, there's Las Vegas and then everything around it for like a thousand miles is just desert. It's literally like an oasis in the desert. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So, so yeah, no, you're not wrong. You're just a little bit off. You were just thinking a little bit more to the west, closer to la, closer to la, closer to la la la la. Oh man. That's awesome though. Like, you got a lot going on for you. When's, when are you thinking about dropping some new music or is it kind of hard being, being on the other side of the world from your producers and your team? Speaker 2 01:06:40 Good. So my next song is coming out on May 15th and I'm so excited about it. I'm so pumped. It's gonna be, it's gonna be good fun. Nice. Speaker 1 01:06:50 So what's the story behind the new song? So that, I'm guessing this is of the batch of more recent, more recently written material. Speaker 2 01:06:58 Yeah, so this, this song is definitely more passionate. It's darker, which, you know, is right up my alley. I'm so excited about it. It was about the guy that I was seeing that was kind of up himself, <laugh>. Um, so I'm so excited for him to hear this song. Speaker 1 01:07:16 Like Speaker 2 01:07:16 Everybody, everybody around me that knows me is definitely gonna know who this song's about, including him. So I'm really, really pumped to get it out there. And I feel like it's such a good like, leeway for people to see who I am now as an artist. So I'm very That's Speaker 1 01:07:33 Awesome. Very, very excited. Awesome. Yeah, that's a, that's great. You got a little friend in there with you. Speaker 2 01:07:39 I've got a dog going off at absolutely nothing. Speaker 1 01:07:42 What what kind, what kind of dog do you have? Speaker 2 01:07:44 I have a big husky. Ooh. And I have a tiny little fluffy, fluffy Speaker 1 01:07:51 Thing, <laugh>. And I bet you just like we, I have a tiny little fluffy dog here in uh, here at the place we're staying at. My mom's dog and the little dogs, they bark all the time, but I bet you that husky's like super chill, bigger dog, super chill little dog barks nonstop. Speaker 2 01:08:08 Yeah, dog. My, my little dog, she will yap at anything. Anything at all. Yeah, anything. Speaker 3 01:08:18 But yeah, Speaker 1 01:08:22 There we go. Okay, cool. Yeah, Speaker 2 01:08:24 Yeah. No, it's crazy. Like the husky won't bark as much, but the little dog definitely goes off. Speaker 3 01:08:32 Yeah. I used to live with some guys that had huskies and so working the bar, you know, you're getting home at three, 4:00 AM some nights whenever you close it down and uh, you'd like get outta your car and you're just dead tired and you'd see the husky like jumped up. Like he could definitely get over the fence. He's like hopped up on like another side fence or something and he's just like staring at you like, what's up dude? And you're like, you know, you'd wave at him and then you'd hear him scratch on the back door wanting to play. Our huskies were very like, they weren't jaffy, but like they wanted attention a lot and uh, yeah, they were very vocal about that. Speaker 2 01:09:11 My dog, like he is the biggest Suki la la like if you give the little one any attention, he will. How and how <laugh> and how until you give him like, he is the biggest attention seeker and he gets so jealous if you give any, like, they just want attention all the time. But he is like the sweetest thing. Like he would never hurt a fly like nothing. He's just a, he's just like a big dumb ball of fur. Really? Yeah. I, I love them. I I love dogs. I love big strong dogs. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:09:45 I love them. Do you love, do you like dingos? Do you like dingos <laugh>? Speaker 2 01:09:53 Yeah, that, that, that's, Speaker 1 01:09:56 I had to, I had to I'm sure you got a lot of that when you came over to l I'm sure you got a lot of that when you came over to La Dingos and babies and I just Speaker 2 01:10:07 Got a lot of good day. Good day mate. Speaker 3 01:10:11 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:10:12 Good day mate. Speaker 3 01:10:13 The famous one is like, good day mate. Do you wanna throw some shrimp on the barbie? Speaker 1 01:10:16 Shrimp on the Barbie? Yeah. Speaker 2 01:10:19 So sick of hearing about shrimp on the Barbie. Speaker 3 01:10:23 Blame out back steakhouse. Blame out back steakhouse. Speaker 1 01:10:26 That's what we're gonna do. That's Speaker 2 01:10:28 A big one. Speaker 1 01:10:29 India, when you and Nate are in Nashville, whenever you're in Nashville, dollar General and Outback Steakhouse, I wanna experience an Outback steakhouse with a true Australian. Speaker 3 01:10:40 Yeah. Speaker 1 01:10:40 Or treat. I'll take care. Speaker 2 01:10:44 We we're hoping on going in January, but we're just waiting to see how this whole virus thing plays out. Yeah, I think we'll be able to go. I think that they'll, they'll open up the borders towards then, but if so, definitely like in early January. I'm so excited. I'm so excited to get back there. I'm excited to see how much it's grown in the last couple of years. Oh yeah. From Speaker 1 01:11:05 When I went. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:11:06 Just like building wise, people wise, Speaker 3 01:11:09 So many new buildings. Speaker 2 01:11:11 You guys have the weirdest shops. Like mom and I went in and we're like, okay, we're in Nashville. We have to obviously get cowboy boots. So we go into the stores like on that main road and it's like buy one, get two pairs free. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:11:24 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:11:25 And it's like, my mom went up to the person and she's like, did I read this correctly? Like, buy one, get two pairs free. And the lady's like, yes. And mom's like, no, but like, you buy one pair of pair and then you get two pairs free. And she's like, yes. Mom's like mind blown, her soul like left her body. It was like, she was like, what? What? Yeah. I'm so excited to go back. Speaker 1 01:11:50 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Nash. Yeah. Yeah. Nashville's grown a tremendous amount. I mean I've only been living there. I've been, I think it's less, it'll be two years in October. Yeah. And since I've been there, there's been just buildings popping up everywhere. Two years. Speaker 3 01:12:05 I've been there in 2013, so I'm coming up on seven years in August and Nashville was absolutely nothing like it is now. Like when I moved there, the bars, there's probably like maybe, I don't know, 10 bars on Broadway and they all shut down during wintertime because it was so dead that like nobody would go to 'em. And now like just experiencing the explosion that is Nashville has been, it's been amazing. But it's also, uh, definitely come with some growing pains between locals and between, you know, outta towners and stuff. But Nashville's a great city and it's been great to see it, see it explode the way it has, especially with all the music and all the culture that Nashville has to give to the, you know, other people. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:12:52 I'm excited to say it. Speaker 1 01:12:53 Yeah. And we're excited to, to meet you in person, like super stoked, honestly. Um, it's been super cool meeting you over this episode and, uh, and hanging out with you. So like we had told you so, um, you were talking about the new song and stuff, um, from when this episode is dropping, we're recording it now here in April. We're still in quarantine, we're dropping the episode on May the 18th song comes out a few days prior to that. So what's the name of the song and um, tell us who you wrote it with and go a little bit more into that. Cause what we're gonna do, we're gonna stick the end of this song, or at the end of the episode, we're gonna play the song going outta the episode for you. Speaker 2 01:13:29 Amazing. So my new single's name is How, and I wrote it with the Wavy in LA in Hollywood. Speaker 3 01:13:36 Nice. The Speaker 1 01:13:37 Wavy. That's awesome. Who are the, the wa So what, what are, what's what? Yeah. So tell, tell us about the Wavy. Who, who are those guys? Speaker 2 01:13:44 The Wavy are some of the coolest producers I've ever met. They're a duo and they did my first song as well. And they are just incredible. Like they are so much fun. They are so down to earth and they are just, they were really, really like inclusive with me. Like they were allowing me to be a part of the process and they were really just like letting me observe how they craft the songs and just, they were letting me be really hands-on with, you know, how I wanted it to sound, which is amazing. I I can't say enough nice things about them. They're really, really cool and they helped me make this song come to life, so I'm so excited for everyone to hear it. Hell Speaker 1 01:14:24 Yeah. That's so awesome. Oh, we, we can't wait either. We're super stoked. Um, and uh, India, honestly, this has been an absolute pleasure, like to be doing this. I wish it wasn't over Skype. I wish you were in, you were in Nashville, we were in Nashville or in LA or in the same place so we could all hang out. But hey, thank you so much for doing this, uh, for joining us. Thank you. Take it having me spending your Thursday afternoon or Thursday morning with us, um, as we're spending our Wednesday evening with you. You gotta love time zones. Speaker 2 01:14:54 Thank you so much for, um, educating me on the American culture. Oh yeah. I'm even wanted to go and see a raccoon. Speaker 1 01:15:04 Yes. Yeah, a trash panda, Speaker 2 01:15:06 <laugh> trash panda. I'm excited to go and get my dollar bag of grapes and see a trash panda and then get some ray bands and then have them stolen. I'm so pumped. <laugh>. Speaker 1 01:15:18 I can't wait. We call. Can't wait till I come out. Yeah. Hey, we call that the American dream right there. It ain't the American dream without your dollar for your dollar, bag of grapes and your ray bands getting stolen by a trash panda. That's the American dream. Speaker 2 01:15:31 That's the American dream. Speaker 1 01:15:33 Hell yeah. Well, where can people go to find out more about you? I know you're big on social media and you do a lot of stuff on there. Speaker 2 01:15:40 I've got, I've got songs on all different platforms, so whatever, whatever you've got my songs on there and you can find me on Facebook, Instagram, I'm figuring out Twitter, I'm also on TikTok, everything like that. Just look up my name and you'll find it. Hell Speaker 1 01:15:55 Yeah. Nice. And and how do we spell that last name for everybody listening right now so they can find you? Speaker 2 01:16:00 So it's pronounced Do Pray, but But it's spelled D U P R I E Z Speaker 1 01:16:07 E Z. Speaker 2 01:16:09 Yeah. It's got a Silent Z. Silent Z. Speaker 1 01:16:11 You said Z, you said Z at the end of that. I did. Speaker 2 01:16:14 Yeah, I did. Speaker 1 01:16:15 We see, we just say, we just say Z, we don't put the ed on the end of it. That's super cool. Speaker 2 01:16:21 All of you say Z. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:16:23 We say Z. We don't say Zed. That's dope. I didn't know that. I'm learning a lot about Australia. Speaker 2 01:16:29 We say Zed, like D you p i z. Speaker 1 01:16:32 That's so cool. Yeah, no, this Z for us. I want to go to Australia. Yeah. Damn. Speaker 2 01:16:36 I have no idea. Speaker 1 01:16:37 That's super cool. Hell yeah. Well, um, anyway, India, thank you so much. It was an absolute pleasure. And um, hey you enjoy the rest of your Thursday and we'll see you, we'll see you in Nashville sometime. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:16:50 Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you guys soon. Speaker 4 01:17:03 That's running mouth, walking around. Head the head, head in the cloud feet. So Right. And you, when you're done, I'm, you are running mouth running, running mouth, walking around head, head, head in your feet. So, and you.