Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill for Rage Rowdy Podcast.
What's going on, guys and girls? Welcome back to another episode of Outside the Round with me, Matt Brill. Today we've got a lot of folks in this room. They showed up early. That's how excited they were to be here. They are from East Texas, one of our favorite rock bands coming up in the scene. We've got the folks from Passengers Unknown. Fellas, how you doing? What do you think of the studio? You've had enough time in here now.
[00:00:43] Speaker C: It's awesome. We're hanging out for about. About 45 minutes now.
[00:00:47] Speaker D: Yeah, we showed up here at. At noon. We were supposed to get here at 1. We just kind of walked in, and the guy was like, hey, what are y' all doing? And we were like, podcast? And he was like, all right, well, I'm gonna go do what I'm doing.
[00:01:02] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: Shout out to Mitch Gowdy from City Limit Studios out here in Old Hickory, Tennessee. So why don't you guys introduce yourselves and say what you do in the band, then we're gonna rotate in because we got the whole gang here today. So we'll start off with you across from me, brother.
[00:01:18] Speaker F: I'm Alex. I play lead guitar.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:20] Speaker C: I'm Matthew. I'm the rhythm guitarist.
[00:01:22] Speaker D: I'm Keaton. I'm the drummer.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: Okay, so we got two guitars and a drummer up here with the all natural hair. You were bragging on the hair before we got going.
[00:01:29] Speaker C: Yes, sir.
[00:01:29] Speaker F: I kind of brag a little bit, but it gets. It gets old, bro.
[00:01:32] Speaker C: Trying to keep up with it.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: What's the routine like? Because you got. You got flow as well. You're a little bit more back on it. Like, you guys are rockers. You got long hair. You know, Texas rock kids. So what's the routine, bro?
[00:01:44] Speaker F: A lot of people hate on it, but ecogel.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: What is ecogel?
What is that?
[00:01:49] Speaker D: It's just petroleum.
[00:01:50] Speaker F: It's just like.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: It's just a little tub, like Petro gel. Like, are we doing, like, land? Like you're taking gel and just throwing it in your hair.
[00:01:58] Speaker F: What I'll do is I'll, like, condition in the shower and brush it out.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: So, okay.
[00:02:02] Speaker F: Kind of get some of the tangles out and then just wash it with some.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: How do you maintain it on the road? Because you guys are.
[00:02:08] Speaker C: Same thing.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: You guys have been road dogging it.
[00:02:11] Speaker F: Yeah. I mean, it'll hold up for two days, three days max.
But it gets kind of rough after at least the Three to four day mark. It's pretty rough.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Have you guys showered in a Loves or a Planet Fitness yet?
[00:02:26] Speaker D: We don't shower.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: We don't show. You guys are rock. I forget you guys are rock.
[00:02:30] Speaker G: But I do.
[00:02:30] Speaker C: I do have a Planet Fitness membership if we ever need to.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: Those are key. So back. I don't. It's been a. It's been since August, since we were last hanging out, all of us. And I forget if I told you guys, I spent four years on the road as a tour manager and a year on the road as a merch guy. So having that Planet Fitness membership, I don't use my. My stepdad bod is botting right now over here. I got a little keg going. But it's. It's important to have that for when. Oh, shit, we need to take a shower. And then those. You use those guest passes. So it really does come in handy.
[00:03:06] Speaker D: Some of them have saunas too.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah, some have saunas and like the crazy massage chairs, hydro massages.
[00:03:12] Speaker F: And we went into a loves one time. They had like a whole hallway. It had conference rooms and all kinds of stuff. Ye.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Loves getting after it, man. So want to talk to you guys about kind of how the band got started. You guys are from Carthage, from East Texas, which to me is the new home of rock and roll. When I think of rock and roll in the United States of America, I think of the Lone Star state and I think of guys like yourselves. I think of Dexter and the Moon Rocks. I think of Co Wetzel. I think of of all the great bands that have come out of there, even going back to the metal days like Pantera. So tell me kind of how you guys formed and how this whole thing got started.
[00:03:49] Speaker C: Well, it started out me and. Me and Joby are cousins. And then Brayden the base shout out Joby.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: We're gonna get Joby on here in a little bit. We're gonna rotate in. We got tag team situation.
[00:03:58] Speaker C: The bass player is my brother. So we always started out playing music. Like our whole lives, our whole family has played music in some way. But we always talked about writing music, starting a band. We just never really got around to it. It was like, oh, yeah, we want to do this. We just never did. And then my mom owns a music venue in Carthage where we're from. And one night he came in there and met my older brother and said he played guitar. And my brother called me, like, dude, I just met the best guitarist I think I've ever met in my life. Hey, here's his number. And he sent me these videos that Alex had sent to him. Yeah. And I'm like, that dude's full of shit. He did not play that.
And then like that next weekend I went up there because I've worked there for a while. Well, I did work there.
[00:04:42] Speaker F: I had met Brock that Tuesday and I came up there that, that Thursday
[00:04:46] Speaker C: and I was working and then he brought his guitar, he plugged it in, put on like a backing track or something, played the exact same thing. He sent in that video. And I'm just sitting there like, okay, so he wasn't full of shit. So then we meet him, we're like, he's like, I just, I want to, I want to write music. I want to be in a rock band. I'm like, you know what? Let's do it. So we meet up when we start twice a week for like six months. We just get together and we're writing music twice a week for six months. And then finally after we get a bunch of music written and we're ready to start playing, we released 3:00am Yep. That song hit 100,000 streams in like the first two months. Before we'd ever played a show before we even had a drummer, so. And then we were like, oh, we got to get a drummer. So we finally, we, me and Joby volunteered at a summer camp, church camp, one summer. And he was there playing drums.
[00:05:38] Speaker D: It's, it's, it's. So I wasn't supposed to be there?
[00:05:41] Speaker C: No.
[00:05:41] Speaker D: Yeah, my dad, my dad was hired to be like the music person at the church camp. And the drummer they had was like running late. And so I was, I got the text. I was sitting at my parents house because I had recently become unemployed.
It was a really, really tough couple of days. And I was just sitting on my couch and my dad was like, hey, you want to come make $20? And I was like, do I?
[00:06:03] Speaker C: That sounds perfect.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: And you guys are young cats, so how old are you when stuff's all happening? Like how long ago was this?
[00:06:10] Speaker D: About two years ago.
[00:06:10] Speaker C: About two years ago. So I'm 21 now. So I was 19.
[00:06:13] Speaker D: Yeah, I was freshly 23. And so I just pulled up and it was. Everybody was there except for Alex. And we just played church songs.
[00:06:24] Speaker C: We had found a drummer originally, like right when we started. And we used him for a couple months and it just, we had like different like plans for what we. How the music wanted to go. So it didn't end up working out. It was all mutual. But then I called Him. I'm like, I know somebody. I call him. I'm like, hey, dude that I met at church camp. You want to come play in a rock band?
[00:06:43] Speaker D: He's, like, still very unemployed, by the way.
[00:06:45] Speaker C: He's like. He's like, oh, absolutely. And I'm like, perfect. He's like, what are y' all doing tomorrow? And then we met up, and we, like, the next day after, I called him, I think, and started playing through the set. And then our first show together, all of us, was in February of last year.
[00:07:00] Speaker D: Wow. Valentine's Day.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah, Valentine's Day. Where was this show at?
[00:07:05] Speaker C: Oh, dude, it was at, like, a picture pizza brewery place. We played. Yeah, we played in the back room where all, like, the big still things were.
[00:07:13] Speaker D: Where they brew the actual.
[00:07:14] Speaker C: Where they brew the beer. We played in front of it. It was. It was like that. We played, like, two metal bands. So it was like. But it was like, shoulder to shoulder, packed in this little back room behind a brewery pizza place.
[00:07:26] Speaker D: And we were sandwiched in between the two metal bands. So, like, it starts off with just, like, just.
And then we get up and go, sweetie, such a.
[00:07:37] Speaker C: Like, yeah, there was probably 200, 300 people in this little back room. And it was awesome. We had people, like, they did a mosh pit from one of our songs, and then the next song, they're all in the mosh pit just hugging. Yeah. And swaying back and forth. So they really love.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: And I'd imagine there's no barricade at a show like this. There's probably no stage.
The barricade.
[00:07:59] Speaker D: The barricade was our amps.
[00:08:01] Speaker C: That was the only standing there playing. And then I'm just looking. Everyone's just right here looking at me. Like, as close as we are. That's how close somebody. They were to me. We're just playing like, well, this is a little awkward.
[00:08:11] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: What a first show.
[00:08:13] Speaker D: Well, that was. It wasn't their first show. It was my first show.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: First show as this year.
[00:08:18] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:08:19] Speaker D: Y' all had only played, like, four or five before that anyway, right?
[00:08:22] Speaker C: Maybe six, something like that.
[00:08:24] Speaker F: We had already toured up to Virginia.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Oh, really? So y' all had already gone up to, like, the Monument and stuff like that?
[00:08:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:30] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:08:31] Speaker C: But that was only because we started the band late 2023. That's when all that happened. And then we put out the first song. 3am in January 1, 2024 is when we dropped it. And then we didn't play our first show as a band until June, which is.
[00:08:50] Speaker D: I had already met Y', all, we.
[00:08:51] Speaker C: We had met. Yeah, like that was right when we met in June and. And then we played until November and then we split with the drummer and then I called him, he was like, let's do it.
[00:09:02] Speaker D: Didn't y' all, like, y' all were at the church camp and then had to like leave the church camp to go play the show. And then y' all came back the
[00:09:09] Speaker C: next day because it was a two week ordeal. And then right in between the two weeks, we went and played a show in Fort Worth and then came back.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: That's awesome, man. And I think it's so cool that you guys are Texas cats because there's so many guys and girls that do this music thing that make a living just touring Texas, stretch over to Louisiana, stretch over to Oklahoma or Arkansas. But there's so many gig opportunities in your own backyard.
[00:09:34] Speaker D: It's such a big place. Yeah. And it's such a diverse place too. Like you can. Musically, there's so many different genres embedded in the state.
[00:09:43] Speaker F: Yeah. Because there's so much different stuff coming out of Dallas and then you've got so much stuff coming out of like Austin and then a little bit farther west out of, you know, Midland. There's like just all kinds of different music coming out of pretty much the same place.
[00:09:58] Speaker C: It's just so big.
[00:09:59] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah, man. I like, I love going out to Lubbock. Lubbock, like really, like the blue light going out to Cooks.
[00:10:06] Speaker D: You like Lubbock?
[00:10:07] Speaker A: I love, love it, man. I got to go out there for Texas Tech's first game, their opening game of the, of the season this past year with the Surfside folks. And we went and saw Hudson Westbrook at Cook's Garage outside. He sold it out.
[00:10:19] Speaker D: And he's from L, right?
[00:10:20] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he's from Stevenville, but then went to, went to school at Tech and then his stuff started popping and he dropped out his freshman year. But just the history of like the college scenes too, because College Station is another one. You know, when you think of like Hurricane Harry and those rooms that are out there and like Flatland Cavalry going to school there, but coming out through Lic and William Clark Green and obviously CO and like the East Texas sound, I think of rock and roll. Yeah. I really do.
[00:10:46] Speaker C: We just played literally College Station and then the next day Lic like two weeks ago.
[00:10:50] Speaker D: It's a horrible drive.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a whole lot of nothing out there. I was just in Texas cuz I'm hosting all the rock the countries this year. So I was just in.
Where was it? Belleville. Belleville, Texas, outside of Katy. And not a whole lot of stuff out there, but it was a hell of a time.
[00:11:10] Speaker D: It's all just Houston.
It's such a big Houston area. Yeah.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:16] Speaker F: A lot of Houston out there.
[00:11:17] Speaker D: Yeah, there is a lot of Houston out there, by the way.
[00:11:20] Speaker A: A whole lot of Houston. So I want to talk a little bit about the sound of, like, how you guys blend Southern rock and grunge. There's a very subtle, like, country in the songwriting in there. But talk about how you guys have kind of created the sound that is Passengers Unknown.
[00:11:35] Speaker D: Man, that's a tough one. Who wants to take that one?
[00:11:37] Speaker F: I'll take it.
[00:11:38] Speaker D: I'll take this one.
[00:11:40] Speaker F: We really just play.
Honestly, it's. We've never.
[00:11:44] Speaker G: We've never really tried.
[00:11:46] Speaker C: I'll take this one. We play music, bro.
[00:11:49] Speaker F: Like, we never tried to, like, make us make a certain sound or anything like that. We just kind of.
We just brought in our own influences from how everybody else just kind of plays. It's everybody doing their own thing, and it just worked out to our own sound.
[00:12:10] Speaker C: Our writing process has always been. It's not like one person writes the songs. We all collectively get together, and we all write the song. Every song we write, we all write it. So it's.
[00:12:20] Speaker D: Which.
[00:12:21] Speaker C: Our sound is just a blend of all of our personal influences.
So we never, like, really try, like, we're gonna make this kind of music.
We're just, like. We're just gonna make music that we like and hope everybody else likes it, too.
[00:12:34] Speaker D: And I'll add on to that. I think that's part of the reason why it resonates so well, is because there's no pretense there. And we're not trying to be the next co. We're not trying to be the next actor in the Moon Rocks. We're bringing what we've got, and it's so authentically just a bunch of boys from Texas.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:50] Speaker D: You know, you're like, there's a hint of country. It's like, well, yeah, we do have a hint of country. There's a hint of grunge. I guess we do have a hint of grunge.
That's our childhoods, and it's showing up in the music now. Yeah.
[00:12:59] Speaker A: Talk about some of the opening slots you guys have gotten to. You've gotten to go out. My boy Pecos and his boys, they're not as wild of a bunch as when I first met him, like, five years ago. Like, I'd met him right coming off of this damn song coming out and those. The first time I hung out with Pecos was here in Nashville and we rung up like $100 tab at taco bell. Drive through that night. And him and Colby, I went to their Airbnb and they got booted from their Airbnb for setting the smoke alarms off. It was a wild time. This was like 2021.
[00:13:31] Speaker C: I mean, they're still pretty wild, but I don't know if they're that wild.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was. They had come out here and played it. We did a 42420 takeover at the bar. We had a Delta 8 sponsorship at the time. And I have a. I'll show you guys the photos after. I have some famous photos of Pecos and Colby and Dylan Wheeler lighting up on stage and me having to go up and confiscate the J from them.
[00:13:52] Speaker D: We have the craziest story about the second night we spent with Pecos on tour.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Or was it in Texas?
[00:13:58] Speaker D: No, this was in Kansas.
[00:14:00] Speaker C: Was it? It was Manhattan, wasn't it?
[00:14:01] Speaker D: Manhattan.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: I love the hat. What a tiny little dingy room.
[00:14:07] Speaker C: It was music. Yeah, it was awesome.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: I love that it's small and the ceilings are low. Like, it's just a room where the crowds like. Again, the crowd's like, right on top of you.
[00:14:15] Speaker F: And the crowd was awesome.
[00:14:16] Speaker A: Oh yeah, they love down Aggieville. That whole strip is great.
[00:14:20] Speaker C: We had girls barking at us.
[00:14:22] Speaker E: Like the.
[00:14:22] Speaker C: Everybody in the front, they barked at us. Barking. Like I heard barking. I'm like, what's going on? And I like stood up on like the riser on one parts of the set. And then I hear. I look down and the girl just barks at me.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: Like, what kind of bark?
[00:14:36] Speaker C: Like a bar.
[00:14:36] Speaker D: Oh, like, you know what kind of bar.
[00:14:38] Speaker A: Like a heavy bar.
[00:14:39] Speaker C: Like, not like a chihuahua, like a pit bull. Like these girls are barking. And like, it caught me so off guard I started like laughing. And then it made him bark even more. And the rest of the set, it was just bark.
[00:14:52] Speaker D: Made the mistake of making eye contact with them and like shyly grinning away. Cuz we didn't know what to do.
Now we know to bark back at one point. And it worked.
[00:15:02] Speaker C: It did work. They thought it was hilarious.
[00:15:04] Speaker D: Yeah, so. So that happened. First of all, that's already going on. We're getting barked at, which in Texas that's a threat. So we've never done that before. And so we get done and we're all sitting out Waiting for just to see what's gonna happen. And the Pegas crew's not leaving for a couple hours. So I think their drummer, Garrett, awesome guy, was like, how about y' all come hang out on the bus with us? And we were like, I've never seen a bus before, so, like, let's go look at it. And we're sitting there talking with Garrett, and Pecos is there, too, eating tacos. And I don't know how it came up, and I don't know how this came up, but it did. Everybody's got a little buzz, I think. Matt says, you know, Braden, our bass player, he writes.
[00:15:40] Speaker G: He.
[00:15:40] Speaker D: He writes rap songs in his spare time.
And Pecos, it's like, Pecos just like. Like a sleeper agent just woke up. And he goes, I have to hear them.
So we sat there, and Braden said, well, this is the first one. It's called Sku Wah. And he plays his first rap song called Sku Wa, which is the best music you've ever heard in your life.
And then Pecos just sits there laughing. And then he goes, I have to hear all of them.
So Pecos listens to Braden's entire 45 minute catalog.
[00:16:10] Speaker F: Wow.
[00:16:10] Speaker D: By then, the rest of Pecos band has made it on. And Pecos says, you guys have to hear.
[00:16:16] Speaker C: You'll have to hear this shit.
[00:16:17] Speaker D: So we start over, and then by the next 45 minutes, all the crew has come in, and Pecos says, you guys have to hear this. So we start over, and then random people on the street. I'm kidding. But, like. And so we're sitting there listening, and we couldn't believe it.
Because there's no way that first of all, Pecos, for all of us, was like the country, our act that we knew and respected. Like, when this damn song came on, came on the scene, we were. We were all in high school. And it was like, for me especially, I was. That was the only name I really recognized. So it was real for me. And Alex, we were talking about this yesterday. It was real for him, too.
[00:16:55] Speaker F: Yeah, Yeah.
[00:16:56] Speaker C: I was like, how is this even real? Like, how is this my life right now? We're sitting on Pecos tour bus, where I'm sitting right next to him. He's laughing so hard, he's spitting up his tacos, and he's like. After he gets done showing the songs, he's like, dude, I need these. We're like, oh, yeah. He's like, no, seriously, my eardrop is on.
So Pecos has like four or five rap songs in his phone that our bass player made in his bedroom.
[00:17:23] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:17:23] Speaker C: And all of the crew now know him as Bootyman because he has a song called Booty.
[00:17:29] Speaker D: Booty man. Yeah. Would you like to hear a line from one of the songs?
[00:17:32] Speaker A: Well, I would. Well, I got. I got to get Joby and Braden on here, so let them. Let's play some. Let's play some musical chairs real quick. I don't know how y' all want. Want. How you all want to.
[00:17:41] Speaker D: But real quick. We can't play these rap songs on the podcast, just so you know.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: Well, I want to get Braden to give me a censored version real quick. Braden and Toby get on here.
So.
[00:17:52] Speaker C: WWE Tag team.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Minute Tag team. Yeah.
[00:17:55] Speaker E: This here for.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: I got. I got room. If a third. If a third wants to stay on or if you all want to do a complete shuffle, we can however y' all want to do it.
I haven't had. I haven't had a five piece on in a very long time. This is cool.
This is wild.
All right, Booty man.
Booty man. Sit on the microphone, Booty man.
So you rap?
[00:18:18] Speaker E: Damn right.
And how.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: How old are you, Braden?
[00:18:23] Speaker E: I am 19.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: 19. All right, so I'm gonna slide this over here. Here you go, grandpa.
[00:18:31] Speaker G: You slide that over here.
[00:18:32] Speaker F: We'll give it.
[00:18:33] Speaker B: We can give it.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: Did somebody. He tossed me when Somebody bring me a water for Booty. Yeah, grab that water there, Booty man. Stay hydrated.
[00:18:39] Speaker E: Water. Perfect.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: I love the Spider man shirt too. The whole vibe is Walmart. There you go. So when did the rapping start?
[00:18:49] Speaker E: I don't know. I was kind of just in my room one night a little bored. I was like, let me download band
[00:18:56] Speaker C: lab and start rapping.
[00:18:58] Speaker E: And it just became a thing.
I just send the songs at 3am to the freaking band. And then I just kept doing that.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: Will we ever get like a Limp Bizkit, silly Goose kind of thing where
[00:19:11] Speaker G: Bootyman is featured on a song necessarily, you know?
[00:19:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:14] Speaker D: These don't need to see the light
[00:19:15] Speaker A: of day, but it sounds like they're already electric. Like Pecos. Hurley and his crew love these.
[00:19:22] Speaker E: They're pretty good.
[00:19:22] Speaker D: They are. They are pretty, like crazy, but they're very incriminating.
[00:19:27] Speaker G: Yeah, you could.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: You could say, yeah, well, the dirty rap song like. Like afroman says in Colt 45, singing them dirty rap songs, every one of them.
What's up, young gravy vibes? Oh, you're going. Okay.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: All right.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: 19 year old singing like young gravy.
[00:19:43] Speaker E: I like to think I'm My own vibe.
I bring something new. Yeah.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: Gravy walks so you could run. I see it. I see it.
[00:19:53] Speaker D: What?
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Is there any way you can do any kind of, like, little rap right now that would be podcast appropriate?
Like, just spit. Give me. Just hit me. Hit me with a line. There's got to be a part of it.
[00:20:06] Speaker G: Dude, you could play a clip of Nasty.
[00:20:08] Speaker E: I don't know.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: I'm saying that.
[00:20:09] Speaker E: I'm saying that.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Or you could just rap. You could just spit right now on here and just censor yourself, if that's. If that's capable.
I gotta see your flow, Braden. I gotta see your flow, Booty man.
[00:20:20] Speaker E: Which one? Let me. Let me look at my list of bars.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: So while we're doing that, how long. How long have you been. Been in. Been in the cruise? Joby, you were one of the original.
[00:20:30] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Founding members.
[00:20:31] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: So talk about that origin story that the fellows were talking about. Talk about it from your perspective. Bootyman loads up his catalog.
[00:20:39] Speaker G: So really, as Matthew said, I mean, we're cousins, you know, we've always.
We've always wanted to do this, you know, full time, just be a band, you know, write. Write music. Do, you know, show. Show what we have to the world, basically.
[00:20:54] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:20:55] Speaker G: And my. My kind of background, like, I watched. My dad was a country artist, and I watched him growing up, you know, playing at some of these bars, and his. His band got pretty far, actually. And I think at one point, they were gonna open up for Cody Johnson.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:21:12] Speaker G: But, you know, sadly, some things happen, and it didn't go as planned, but I kind of get.
I guess that's why you could say there's a little country in. In the lyrics and the. The melody, I guess, is because I kind of. I kind of watch my dad in the country scene.
[00:21:30] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:21:31] Speaker G: Kind of, you know. Right. Right. In that way.
[00:21:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: I. I think of that reminds me of, like, Wyatt Flores. His dad came up wanting to do music in the Oklahoma scene and grew up alongside the guys from the Great Divide and things like that. And it's like Wyatt is now getting to do the stuff that his dad had gotten close to that point. But now you're getting to tour the country with your own band and create cool shit with your buddies, you know, which is awesome.
[00:21:59] Speaker G: And, I mean, I think that's a. I think that's a really cool feeling, too. Yeah, man. It's awesome.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: It absolutely is. So can you do some slam Poacher? I got to hear some kind of flow. Like.
[00:22:08] Speaker E: Okay.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: Like.
[00:22:09] Speaker E: So one of the opening bars for the song Keaton was talking about.
[00:22:13] Speaker D: So glad.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: What is this?
[00:22:14] Speaker D: I'm so glad. I'm so glad you're choosing this one.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: What's the song again called?
[00:22:18] Speaker F: Sku Wah.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: So this was the first one that Pecos had heard. This is what you were talking about.
[00:22:25] Speaker E: And the opening bar of it is I pull up to your mama's grave and I jerk off.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: Also. It's like outsider. Like it's underground.
[00:22:38] Speaker D: It's very underground, yeah.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: Is it on SoundCloud?
[00:22:41] Speaker E: Just Band Lab.
[00:22:43] Speaker A: Just Band Lab in your phone?
[00:22:45] Speaker G: Has.
[00:22:46] Speaker D: Has.
[00:22:46] Speaker G: It's. It's not released yet.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: And now on Pecos's phone and now
[00:22:49] Speaker D: on its crew members, much more dangerously. Yeah, it is on Pegasus phone.
[00:22:55] Speaker A: I was hearing about Jupiter. What's. What's the concept of Jupiter?
[00:22:59] Speaker F: It's my favorite.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: That's.
[00:23:01] Speaker F: It's actually like pretty, like music.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Tell me, tell me about Jupiter.
[00:23:06] Speaker E: I don't know. I don't know what that one is.
[00:23:13] Speaker D: Sing Nasty for us real quick.
Just hit that hook.
[00:23:19] Speaker G: I love it.
[00:23:20] Speaker D: I love it.
[00:23:21] Speaker E: I like that nasty.
[00:23:24] Speaker C: I love it.
[00:23:25] Speaker E: I love it. I like that Nasty. You do? I love it.
[00:23:29] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:23:31] Speaker E: I like that nasty.
Yeah, that's it.
[00:23:36] Speaker D: That's the hook.
[00:23:36] Speaker G: That's the hook, right?
[00:23:37] Speaker A: Sounds like money to me.
[00:23:38] Speaker D: The verses he taught, he thought. He talks about all of the nasty that he likes to do.
[00:23:43] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:44] Speaker D: And you've never even thought of it.
[00:23:46] Speaker G: And are you.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: And you're. Are you the youngest guy in the band? So you're the little brother. So this is you guys watching your little brother bars. I freaking love that.
I love that dynamic, man.
[00:23:56] Speaker E: They could never have bars like me.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: But you're the bass player. You got the groove, you know, this is the rhythm section right here. I saw him clapping along, building the beat right there.
[00:24:05] Speaker E: I got everything.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Got everything. You got it all. You got it all, man. What's it like being a 19 year old getting a. Getting a tour the country with these guys?
[00:24:18] Speaker F: Pretty cool.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: That's freaking awesome, man. Talk to me about the story behind Girls With Tattoos.
[00:24:27] Speaker G: Okay, so that song was originally wrote as a joke. Just. Just like thrown out of there. Just written as a joke. We really never had plans on releasing it, but it. It kind of came. It kind of became like a, like a very, very like catchy thing that would, I guess, run through our heads. Like, I. We had like a shitty recording of it. And I showed my mom one day and she was like, that's gotta be one of my favorite songs. And I was like, this is a joke. I was like, I was joking. But she was like, yeah, this is. This is a really good song. I actually enjoy this. And then we went into the studio with it and, I mean, we went over it probably a thousand times, trying to, you know, make the song as perfect as possible.
And, like, Heath, our engineer, he would send us, like, a cut of it and we would be like, I think we want to change this. I think we're going to move this to here.
And it just took us forever to just get it the way that we wanted it.
[00:25:33] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:25:34] Speaker G: And I mean, you know, it's different. It's. It's more of, like, a poppy, you know, vibe.
[00:25:38] Speaker A: It's something I could imagine hearing on, like, Sirius XM's octane or like your local rock station back home, you know, which is, in my. In my opinion, like, evolution for you guys, you know, like, going to go from like 3am and how are you? And lost and losing and lighted up to Girls with Tattoos.
[00:25:57] Speaker G: Yeah. I mean, it's a very. It's a very different vibe. Yeah.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: How's it been received live when you guys have been playing it?
[00:26:02] Speaker D: They love it.
[00:26:03] Speaker G: Yeah. I mean, because. Because, you know, whenever we start it, I mean, the first question I ask, because I'm like. I'm like, I just got one question for you.
Do you like girls with tattoos? And then from there the beat drops and it's just. It's just money for me.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: I'd imagine. There's a lot of girls with tattoos.
[00:26:20] Speaker G: Oh, yes.
[00:26:21] Speaker A: Yes. I mean, there's girls with tattoos in this room.
[00:26:24] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:26:24] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: It's.
[00:26:25] Speaker D: It's our Fan base, like 100. It's a perfect. It's a perfect song for that because it's. It's who we play for.
[00:26:32] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:26:33] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: That's awesome. Now, in addition to Pegasus, you guys have gotten to hang out with our boy, Cole Barnhill.
[00:26:37] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: How about those shows been. Because I love Cole, man.
[00:26:40] Speaker G: Yeah, dude, He's. He's a great guy.
[00:26:42] Speaker E: He's.
[00:26:42] Speaker G: He's super chill. I mean, his songs are really good.
There. There was a show. Where was it?
[00:26:48] Speaker D: The.
[00:26:48] Speaker G: The Buck and Burger, where. Alex, actually.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Where is the Bucking Burger? I gotta put this on my list.
[00:26:53] Speaker E: Where was the.
[00:26:54] Speaker D: Brenham, Texas.
[00:26:55] Speaker G: Brenham, Texas? Yeah.
[00:26:56] Speaker D: Right outside.
[00:26:57] Speaker G: After. After the show, Alex, like, they were making some type of. Like, it was. It was tacos, but. But. But it had mashed potatoes inside the tacos.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Oh, so these were like Thanksgiving tacos?
[00:27:11] Speaker G: Yeah, it was steak tacos, but. But without mashed Potatoes in it.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:27:15] Speaker G: And grabs a handful of mashed potatoes and completely just chunks them at Cole Barnhill.
He's sitting there with his shirt off.
[00:27:25] Speaker D: Yeah, he.
[00:27:26] Speaker C: He.
[00:27:27] Speaker E: But.
[00:27:28] Speaker G: And it got all over him. I'm. Yeah, we got. We got a video of it. It got all over him. And it was. It was a crazy time.
[00:27:36] Speaker E: It was.
[00:27:36] Speaker G: It was awesome.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll. You guys send it to me. I'll make sure. Yeah, I'll make sure.
[00:27:41] Speaker G: We'll have to get it to you.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: And now is this like post show. Post show in the parking lot? Yes, yes, yes.
[00:27:46] Speaker F: Pre show, man.
[00:27:47] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: I mean, you can. Cole takes his shirt off like two songs in. Said everything.
Definitely hit with that one in the one in the morning. You guys are buzzed. Cole's buzz.
[00:27:57] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: And are there. Are there fans from the show, like out in the park?
[00:28:00] Speaker G: A couple.
[00:28:01] Speaker E: A couple.
Yeah, a.
[00:28:02] Speaker G: A couple of them witnessed what happened
[00:28:04] Speaker D: that night and I had to drive myself to that one. So I just get that video in the group chat. I'm like, what are y' all doing?
[00:28:11] Speaker G: What the did I miss?
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Did he let you do that?
[00:28:13] Speaker D: Like, are we about to get in a fight?
[00:28:19] Speaker A: Oh, Rascal flats like my wish for you oh, what hurts the most?
[00:28:24] Speaker D: Mashed Potatoes.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: Mashed Potatoes.
[00:28:26] Speaker E: Perfect song.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Is that gonna make it into one of your rap songs, Steven? Hot mess.
You made a rap that night.
[00:28:35] Speaker E: I don't know which one, but it was one of them.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: You gotta look at the dates of when it was added. You guys are working on a full length record, right?
[00:28:43] Speaker G: Yes, yes. It's. Well, we kind of see it as more of like the, like a grungier side of what we've been doing.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:28:51] Speaker G: So it's. It's. I would say, you know, it's. It's still us. You know, obviously you're still going to get, you know, the Passengers unknown sound, but it's. It's. It's a little different. We have. We have a few more exciting songs coming out.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: Where would you guys rank? And I. I should have done this when you guys are on the mics too, because I want to get your answers. Where would you rank? Like, your top three grunge bands, like, thinking back to the Seattle days.
[00:29:16] Speaker G: Oh, for. For me personally, or even, I guess
[00:29:18] Speaker A: the Texas ones too. Like, there's a lot of.
[00:29:20] Speaker G: Yeah. Like out there.
For me, it's obviously going to be Soundgarden, you know, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, you know, just the big three right there. I mean, I. I take a lot of influence from all those guys, especially Chris Cornell.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
I remember that when you guys played over at the Duck Blind was. I remember being like, holy. These guys grew up listening to some songs that were out well before they were born.
[00:29:49] Speaker G: You know, I. I don't. I don't know what it is with just Chris Cornell. The way he writes the. I mean, the. The lyrics, there's. They're so meaningful and he. He just has a way with words, you know?
And I kind of.
I kind of aspire to be like that.
[00:30:08] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:30:08] Speaker G: I mean, it's. It's so cool.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: That's awesome. Do you Resin. Does the grunge resonate heavy with you?
[00:30:12] Speaker D: Yeah. Recently though, I don't know how you could describe what I grew up on. My dad was. He had a weird, like, 80s rock and then Beethoven. Beethoven out of nowhere.
[00:30:23] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:30:23] Speaker D: You know, so. But so I got the privilege and also kind of like sadness of. I didn't get to listen to this stuff until I was well in my 20s, but my brain was almost fully developed, so I was like. I was like getting to hear it and go, oh, man.
[00:30:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:40] Speaker C: I.
[00:30:40] Speaker D: First one was, for me was Nirvana. Because you always hear about Nirvana.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:44] Speaker D: And I would just like roll my eyes at it. When I was like a 10 year old, like, why is he singing about that? And then I got older, I was like, okay, yeah, this. Now that I'm older and I've been around a little bit, I can hear the authenticity in. In his songwriting and in his voice. Is Chevelle, would you consider that grunge?
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I consider that, like, slightly the post, but it's still in that world.
[00:31:06] Speaker D: I love a good melody. I love a good melody. And Chevelle are really melodic rockers. Like, they, you know, a lot of like, really heavy metal music seems like a focus on just the vibe.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:17] Speaker D: But Chevelle seems to focus on like, the singing, the singability of it too. And then I like the Toadies.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:23] Speaker D: If that would be considered Texas grunge. Yeah.
[00:31:26] Speaker C: What about.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: What about for you, Mr. Mc?
[00:31:27] Speaker E: For me at 1 would probably be Silver Chair.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:33] Speaker E: At 2, Silver Chair.
At 3, Michael Jackson.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:31:40] Speaker E: All right.
[00:31:41] Speaker D: Famous grunge rocker Michael Jackson.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: Yes, he did. He did some grungy things, that's for damn sure.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: But.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: And what about. What about for you fellas?
[00:31:50] Speaker D: You want me to get up and let them.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, let's keep the. Keep the musical chairs going with Passengers Unknown.
My big musical chairs podcast.
[00:31:59] Speaker C: I'm on a different camera now.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: Yeah, there you are.
[00:32:02] Speaker C: Yeah. But 90s grunge, for me the ones I like. I'm. I don't know if it's even really 90s, but I like stained.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:10] Speaker C: And then three doors down, which is more like early 2000s.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: See, we like to call that Butt rock.
[00:32:15] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Because that's the era of when the rock. When the rock stations were saying 1029, the buzz, nothing but rock, you know,
[00:32:22] Speaker C: And Allison Chains, of course. And I really do. I like Silver Chair, too. It's one of my favorites, but for the most part.
[00:32:27] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:32:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:28] Speaker C: Stain's one of the top ones.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: Stained is awesome. I'm actually going to get to see them a few times this year with the Rock the country.
[00:32:35] Speaker C: I think we're going to go to one of.
[00:32:36] Speaker G: Yeah, we. We plan to.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: Sick. That's awesome. Yeah, they're great live. My buddies from Lakeview got to open for them.
Did a whole tour with them and Breaking Benjamin. And then we got to go to one of their shows in Atlantic City, New Jersey, at a. It was a casino show.
Lake View and Stained. And seeing Stained at a casino in 30, New Jersey was freaking wild, man.
And Aaron still hits the. Still can hit the notes. The guys in the band, like, they're tight as for how long they've been doing. What about you, Alex?
[00:33:08] Speaker F: My answers might be a little bit more off the wall.
You were talking about Octane.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:14] Speaker F: I grew up listening to Octane, so, like, God, smack and stuff like that and a lot of the. The more classic rock. I didn't start listening to grunge kind of like Keaton until, you know, some. My later years now, kind of.
But I really enjoy Silver Chair. They kind of put me onto Silver Chair. I never really had my. My Deftones.
[00:33:36] Speaker E: Oh, yeah.
[00:33:37] Speaker A: God, I love that melodic.
[00:33:39] Speaker C: How did I forget Deftones, like, my favorite.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:43] Speaker F: I didn't have my Deftones kind of spot until a few months ago, maybe a year ago, and I just kind of binged a bunch of their songs, and they're really, really good.
[00:33:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:54] Speaker F: So for. For Grunge, I would probably have to say Nirvana. I listened to a lot of Nirvana when I was in high school.
And Deftones, of course, they're Fire, but I didn't start listening to them until later.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:08] Speaker F: And then Soundgarden and Audio Slave, of course. Yeah, probably. I'd probably have to put Audio Slave
[00:34:14] Speaker A: above Sounds you mix in the Rage band. With Cornell fronting, it's. Those super groups were so fun, man.
[00:34:21] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:34:21] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: It was like Temple of the. Temple of the Dog was another great one with Eddie Vedder being in there you know, and Scott Weiland did some. Some stuff with them as well. Like, I also love. I just noticed this. You're wearing the fox and bead shirt.
[00:34:33] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, dude. Repping the game.
[00:34:35] Speaker E: Love.
[00:34:35] Speaker C: I love Fox and be.
[00:34:36] Speaker E: We love.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: We love those boys. Have you guys gotten to interact with them quite a bit?
[00:34:40] Speaker C: We've played a couple shows.
[00:34:41] Speaker G: I think we've played two with the shows. Yeah, Yeah.
[00:34:44] Speaker E: Y.
[00:34:44] Speaker C: They're so sick, dude. They're the homies.
[00:34:46] Speaker A: And their. Their story similar to you guys, because that show you guys played in August, was that your first time playing in Nashville?
[00:34:54] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: So their first time playing in Nashville was also a Wednesday event.
[00:34:58] Speaker C: You know, we found out about Rage Rowdy through them.
[00:35:00] Speaker G: Really?
[00:35:00] Speaker C: We played with them of May. In May of last year.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:04] Speaker C: And I don't remember what. How we came about it, but they. They mentioned raised Rowdy and was like, here and sent the contact, like, reach out to these guys. So we reach out to y', all. And y' all were like, hey, y' all want to do the Rowdy on the road? We're like, yeah, yeah, sure.
[00:35:21] Speaker E: That's.
[00:35:21] Speaker C: That's how we got in contact. They. They're the ones that, like, sent us the contact.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And similar to you guys, where it's like, there's a lot of activity going on stage. Like, all you guys are playing as. As front men.
Like, you look at. You watch Ashton on the drums. He might as well be a damn friend. When you watch.
You watch any of those. Any of those guys, like Christian and Logan obviously do do a freaking phenomenal job. I mean, the. And they're watching them grow up has been a lot of fun for us, you know, like a killer dude. Watching Landon go from being, like, the quiet, mysterious guy on stage to just burning it down on the base.
[00:35:59] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: Wild to watch. So we love those boys. We're actually doing their. I've got them coming on a pod.
[00:36:06] Speaker C: Oh, sweet.
[00:36:06] Speaker E: Soon.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: And we're gonna be doing their. Their album release party as a Wednesday, and they're gonna be ripping, I think, like, 10 or 12 songs.
So they're one that the house guys are always like, are they going to break my drum kit? You know? Oh, it's definitely Ashton going to. Is Ashton going to break my drum kit?
[00:36:26] Speaker C: You know, Very valid concern to have.
[00:36:28] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:36:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: And what's cool is that what I love about the rock world is seems like for a long time, there was this Nashville and Texas divide when it came to country, but it's like, they're Carolina East Coast. Rock guys. You guys are a damn Texas rock band. Yeah. And y' all like, brothers, you know, and they're. They're with the Floating Leaf Gang. And. And it seems like there's a lot of integration with that. You guys got that from early on going up to the Monument and touring the East Coast. Like, when was your first trip up to the East Coast?
[00:36:56] Speaker C: It was October of 2024.
[00:37:00] Speaker F: Yeah. Because we played the Monument on Halloween, I think.
[00:37:03] Speaker G: Oh, yeah. We dressed up as, like a 70s.
[00:37:06] Speaker E: We were.
[00:37:06] Speaker C: We walked out with 70s attire on input picture here.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: I had.
[00:37:10] Speaker C: I had like, bell bottoms and boots.
[00:37:13] Speaker G: I had like a leopard button up with bell bottoms and, you know, boots.
[00:37:17] Speaker C: And we walk out and they're. They're probably expecting a 70s band. And then we start playing like, whoa, Holy.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: What's going on?
[00:37:24] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:37:25] Speaker C: And then there was a rave after.
[00:37:27] Speaker G: Yeah, that was actually dope.
[00:37:30] Speaker C: We opened up for a rave pretty much. There was a dj. It was crazy.
[00:37:35] Speaker F: The DJ was sick, though. Shout out to.
I forgot his name.
[00:37:38] Speaker C: He was Shout out to dj.
[00:37:39] Speaker A: Shout out to dj.
[00:37:41] Speaker C: It was cool hanging out in the green room.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: It's awesome. Now, how many states have you guys gotten the tour now? Because I know it started out as a regional in Texas thing, but it seems like you guys have gotten to kind of bounce around to a few different places now maybe.
[00:37:52] Speaker G: Yeah, I mean, we. We've been to quite a few.
[00:37:56] Speaker C: We went up the east coast to Virginia twice.
[00:37:59] Speaker G: Maryland.
[00:38:00] Speaker C: We played in Maryland.
We went up this last room we did with Pecos. We went up to Kansas and Oklahoma.
[00:38:08] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:38:09] Speaker C: In Arkansas. Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, North Carolina.
And then we're about to hit some new states soon because we're going on tour of Pegas in two weeks. We're going up to Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Oh, so that'll be a first arriving ahead of you. Yeah. Talk about how that ride from College Station to Lubbock is a hall. You go up there, Boy, it's not
[00:38:33] Speaker C: even half the way there.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like 23 hours or something.
[00:38:36] Speaker G: Yeah, it's gonna be lovely.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: What's the touring situation like right now? Like, what are you guys rolling around in?
[00:38:41] Speaker G: Well, we plan to get like.
Well, we had planned to get like a. A little bus. Like just rent a bus out and find a driver.
But I mean, if. If taking the van is what we
[00:38:52] Speaker C: got to do, then we just ride around.
[00:38:53] Speaker G: I mean, we're going to have to put some miles on the van.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: Who's doing the driving?
[00:38:57] Speaker G: Mainly it's Matthew.
[00:38:58] Speaker C: If I get too tired And I feel like I am a danger to everyone in the van. I might pull over and let Keaton or Joby take a turn, but for the most part, it's usually me.
[00:39:08] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:39:08] Speaker C: It does most of the driving.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah. That's how I was too. Being being a tour manager, I was doing a lot of the. A lot of the driving. And it's rough. It's rough.
[00:39:17] Speaker C: Which I like it too.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: To me, it goes. To me, it goes by faster when I'm behind the wheel.
[00:39:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: You know, like, I'm starting to give up the reins now because a lot of these festivals that we go to, we're. We're taking my Toyota Tacoma, we're pulling a U haul trailer with all the raised rowdy merch in it. So I'm starting to pass the reins off a little bit and let no Nikki T. Drive a little bit. Get him away from being the passenger princess, you know.
And then. So what's, what's the van? Is it like a sprinter? We're talking 40, 350. Like, what are we rolling around in
[00:39:45] Speaker C: Chevy vans with the rose? Chevy Express 12 seater.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: 12 seater.
[00:39:53] Speaker C: Like a 2005? I don't know.
[00:39:56] Speaker F: No, it's like a 2009, something like that.
[00:39:59] Speaker C: They all look exactly the same.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: They do look exactly the same. There hasn't been much.
[00:40:03] Speaker C: We rented a 20, like a 2019 for one of the tours and then the one we bought is older. Exactly the same interior. There's no difference at all. None.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: It's the same exact van.
[00:40:14] Speaker F: I was looking at some of the newer custom vans too, and it looks just like a 1999 van, but the inside is like pimped out.
[00:40:21] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:40:23] Speaker C: It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: I mean, what are you guys getting when you're pulling into a Buc EE's or a Loves or something like that? What are the gas station snacks? Does anybody have any off?
Anybody eating hard boiled eggs or any.
[00:40:35] Speaker F: We're starting a.
A hot dog rating thing.
[00:40:39] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:40] Speaker C: Roller dogs.
[00:40:41] Speaker F: Roller dogs are goaded.
I think we just did the first one the other day. It was. It was at a. At a QT in Memphis.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: It was like QTS are pretty good.
[00:40:52] Speaker F: It was a pretty.
[00:40:53] Speaker C: They got good roller dogs.
[00:40:54] Speaker F: Yeah, it was pretty.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: I mean, I feel like you're gonna consistently get the same roller dogs everywhere.
[00:40:58] Speaker F: No, not really.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: No. You don't think so?
[00:41:01] Speaker F: I've had some roller dogs that.
[00:41:02] Speaker C: Life change.
[00:41:03] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:41:03] Speaker F: Live changing.
[00:41:04] Speaker B: Really?
[00:41:04] Speaker F: Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And then we stopped at some place I don't even. It was in the middle of nowhere.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: Is it on the way home?
[00:41:15] Speaker F: It was over by the Rhinestone saloon. Yeah.
Best roller dog I've ever had in my life.
[00:41:20] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:41:21] Speaker F: And, you know, I go with the mustard and the. And the ketchup.
And then they also.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: You double it up. You do mustard and ketchup.
[00:41:28] Speaker C: He puts everything on it.
[00:41:29] Speaker F: And then they have this pack. It's almost like onion relish.
It's fire, dude. It's fine.
[00:41:34] Speaker C: Alex eats the weirdest stuff.
[00:41:36] Speaker G: Oh, dude.
[00:41:37] Speaker C: Was that chicken salad sandwich? Oh, from a gas station.
[00:41:40] Speaker F: It's from Casey's. The Casey's chicken salads.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: Casey's is solid. I've never had. I've never dared to have their chicken salad sandwich.
It's a bold move.
[00:41:49] Speaker F: I will. I will say it's better than the loves chicken salad sandwich, bro.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Casey's I would put above love.
[00:41:54] Speaker G: Oh, yeah.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: You know, I like loves. I mean, I love Buc EE's, which has become a newer thing for us out here. You guys obviously grew up.
[00:42:00] Speaker C: Every time we go anywhere, if There's a BUC EE's, it's.
[00:42:03] Speaker G: We're stopping the law.
[00:42:04] Speaker C: You have to stop.
[00:42:05] Speaker G: Yeah, we're stopping.
[00:42:06] Speaker C: You stop. If you see a Buc Ees, you pull over.
[00:42:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:09] Speaker C: And it's like, get you a barbecue sandwich.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: It'll add. It'll add like, a half an hour to the trip because there's so many of you guys, and everybody's got to go. Look at all the. Like, you got to go.
[00:42:17] Speaker C: Worth it.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: You're not gonna buy the. The. The hunting. The deer stand in there, but you're gonna go look at it. We'll get up in there and get that free sample.
[00:42:25] Speaker G: Dude, the.
The hot pickles. Oh, yeah.
[00:42:32] Speaker F: Well, I don't.
[00:42:32] Speaker C: He eats anything you shouldn't eat before going on a long trip. He does not think it through at all.
[00:42:38] Speaker F: The Van Holten's spicy pickle. It's goaded. It's gonna be. If you get, like, one of the gas station sandwiches or something. And then I'll eat the sandwich, and I'll drink the pickle juice. I may or may not eat the pickle.
[00:42:52] Speaker A: So you're a pickle bag shot guy.
Have you done those before?
[00:42:56] Speaker F: Yeah, sometimes I've had some really good ones. And I've had some really bad ones.
[00:42:59] Speaker C: He's gonna stink us out of the van for a couple hours.
[00:43:02] Speaker F: Come on, bro.
[00:43:03] Speaker C: No, we're not.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Where. Where in town are you guys staying at?
[00:43:11] Speaker C: Oh, it's, like, right outside of downtown
[00:43:13] Speaker F: it's only, like 25 minutes from here.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: Okay. But it's not like. Not like hood. Outside the downtown.
Very nice area. That's good. That's good because.
Oh, one of the tall and skinnies.
[00:43:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Y' all got plenty of room for activities.
[00:43:29] Speaker F: Yeah, that's all the step brothers, bro.
[00:43:32] Speaker E: Over there.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: Is that Abuse Alto?
[00:43:35] Speaker F: Dude, that's the Goat.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: I used to call that my. My car Sigma or my truck Sig, because my old car that I used to have, I ripped so many cigs in it that it was just terrible for anybody to ride around in. So then when I was still smoking cigarettes, I would buy those, and then I'd hit those when I was. When I was driving or in a vehicle. And then as soon as I'd pull over, I'd rip a cig. And then. Oh, yeah, I'd get right back.
[00:43:57] Speaker C: Yeah, right back. Go back to work, bro.
[00:43:59] Speaker F: Because I'm a Marlboro Reds guy, but I don't smoke in my house. I'll smoke in my truck, but I try not to now. And I've just been using it for so long that I'm just kind of. I carry a pack of cigarettes with me.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: But, yeah, these. These have gotten me off of it.
[00:44:13] Speaker E: Really?
[00:44:14] Speaker A: The damn pouch.
These are called Zemos.
I'm a micro influencer, so if you guys were to reach out, you're way more famous than I'll ever be. They will start sending you this.
[00:44:24] Speaker G: Have you ever tried the.
[00:44:25] Speaker A: The Velos Velos? Yeah. So they're. So it's a very similar pouch.
[00:44:29] Speaker G: Okay.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: It's the same. Zinn is just too dry for me.
Zen gives me the hiccups.
[00:44:33] Speaker G: I mean, these.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: I like the moist.
[00:44:35] Speaker G: I. I think they're like Zins. I think they're the only ones that are approved by the FDA.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: The ZINs are.
[00:44:42] Speaker C: Oh, who cares?
[00:44:42] Speaker G: Yeah, these are ones.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: I mean, like I said, I used to push Delta 8 at my events.
[00:44:48] Speaker C: Nicotine pouches are the. Before I quit. Oh, my God. I still. He'll pull one out. I'm like, oh, I start so good. I start itching.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. I was a. Two packs of Diet Marlboros. I wasn't doing the Reds like Ol Al over here. I was. I was ripping the Marlboro Lights, but I was like two packs a day. So now this has gotten me off it. But. But yeah, they. They mail them to me. I post on my story that I got them. They sent me 20 cans whenever I went out. They're based out of Myrtle Beach. South Carolina.
[00:45:14] Speaker C: So they're a little awesome.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: They're a little greasy because Myrtle. Myrtle's dirty. Myrtle. It's a very interesting place there.
[00:45:20] Speaker G: I'll have to. I'll have to look them up.
[00:45:22] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:45:22] Speaker A: If you want to try one right now.
Hey, throw one of yours.
[00:45:26] Speaker C: Don't mind.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: Do a little pouchy tray. Do a little pouch trade there.
[00:45:29] Speaker G: Let's. Oh, last one.
[00:45:30] Speaker A: Oh, last one. No, no, don't do the trade then. You keep.
[00:45:32] Speaker E: In case you don't. Like.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: In case you don't.
[00:45:34] Speaker F: Come on, give it to me.
[00:45:35] Speaker A: You got more tomorrow at OD's.
[00:45:38] Speaker G: Oh, I can get. I can get some more. Here, I'll throw you one.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:45:41] Speaker F: But the pouches just don't do it for me, man.
[00:45:43] Speaker D: You're crazy, bro.
[00:45:44] Speaker F: I'm trying to, like, when I hit my vape, I'm trying to, like, almost pass out.
[00:45:48] Speaker C: That's wild.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: Oh, so you're just trying to go. That's how I used to be my dad pen.
[00:45:53] Speaker E: Ah.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: I used to rip my dad pen and see how high I could get and just go into oblivion. And then I got the girlfriend, she's got a little girl, and it's like, you got to be responsible, you know, you gotta FaceTime at 4:00 on a Monday, and there's a little girl on there. I can't be.
[00:46:08] Speaker C: No more ripping the penjamin.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: No, I mean, I still. What? There's still moments where the penjamin gets ripped. I promise you that. I promise you there's still times when the Benjamin gets ripped. And I like to say festival sigs don't count. That's when I'll. I'll buy my random packs of cigs. So for you, it's like, show. Cigs don't count.
[00:46:25] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: Rip them when you're on the road. Yeah, just rip the cigs when you're on the road.
[00:46:29] Speaker F: Which I won't smoke in the van or anything like that.
[00:46:30] Speaker D: No, you can't.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: You can't be doing that.
You can't be. You can't be. Rip it. You can't be ripping them and smoking everybody out.
So when are we expecting this. This grungy new record to be coming? Where we at in the process?
[00:46:42] Speaker G: I mean, we have. I mean, we have a bunch of demos cut, and we're. We plan. We go. We're going. Monday the 18th. We're going to the studio to. To cut one or two of them and. But we have.
We have plans on releasing it, you know, in the next. In the next Couple months. But we're.
We're trying to get, you know, a sound that we. That we really want, that we're trying to go after. And so, I mean, you know, if. If that takes, you know, experimenting with, you know, different. Different producers and whatnot.
[00:47:13] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:47:14] Speaker A: Where are you guys recording right now? Back in Texas.
[00:47:16] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:47:16] Speaker D: It's.
[00:47:16] Speaker G: It's a place called Encore and Knack.
[00:47:19] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:47:20] Speaker G: Shout Out. Heath, he's. He's a great guy.
[00:47:22] Speaker C: He's who we've recorded all of our music with so far. We've recorded one song in. At a studio in Fort Worth with.
What's the studio? The Bolt Audio.
[00:47:31] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:47:31] Speaker C: With Jared, which they did a great job, too. We had a good time there. But for the most part, almost every. Every song we've released except one has been done by Heath.
[00:47:40] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:47:40] Speaker C: In our hometown studio, Shout Out.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Heath, man, there's. There's something special. Like, Gavin Adcock still uses his hometown guy.
[00:47:47] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: You know, and old 60 has. Has their producer that they've used from back in Kentucky forever. You know, like, there's something special about having a guy grow with you.
[00:47:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: And know your sound, and we're all comfortable there.
[00:48:01] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:48:01] Speaker A: And you know, where you started with. With 3am and you see where it's going now, you know, and he gets the vision that's so important, which he kind of.
[00:48:09] Speaker F: He did a lot of driving with 3am because when we. When we had first went in, like, this is pretty much all of our first band. Yeah.
[00:48:18] Speaker E: So.
[00:48:18] Speaker F: And like. Like we said earlier, I kind of showed up and I was like, well, I want to do this too. And then we just kind of started.
[00:48:24] Speaker G: We wrote,
[00:48:27] Speaker F: what, four or five songs maybe.
[00:48:29] Speaker C: Oh, way more than that.
And then that first six months, I was talking about studio. Yeah. That sick. That six months of just writing music, or however long it was of just writing music before we played a show.
CSP was written in. Well, Girls With Tattoos was written then around.
[00:48:45] Speaker G: Around that time.
[00:48:45] Speaker C: And we still have so many more songs from that time period of when we wrote 3am and girls with Tattoos that we're still, like, working on that are about to. That we're gonna probably put on this album.
[00:48:55] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:48:56] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:48:56] Speaker G: Like, some of them might be on this. Might be on this album.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Your babies are finally getting to come into the world.
[00:49:02] Speaker C: They've been sitting on the wall.
[00:49:04] Speaker F: But. But he had. He had pretty much taught us how to record in. In a sense, I. The way I learned guitar, bro, is I just had a looper pedal, so I kind of understood the the vision of like tracking and stuff like that. But when you go in and you see, you know, the red light turn on and you have to record the final thing. He just kind of taught us a lot about the recording process and stuff and, and. Shout out to Heath.
[00:49:28] Speaker G: For real?
[00:49:29] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:49:30] Speaker A: That's awesome.
[00:49:30] Speaker C: Shout out to Heath.
[00:49:31] Speaker E: Awesome.
[00:49:31] Speaker A: What do you guys like doing when you're not doing music?
[00:49:34] Speaker G: Well, I, I'm, I'm a full time mechanic.
[00:49:36] Speaker A: Oh, so you guys are still working full time jobs and stuff too?
[00:49:39] Speaker C: Yeah, some of us.
Yeah, bro.
[00:49:43] Speaker F: I was poplining and me and Alex
[00:49:46] Speaker C: were both for a while.
[00:49:48] Speaker E: Wow.
[00:49:49] Speaker C: I was, I was a swamper. Yeah.
[00:49:50] Speaker F: Yeah. I was running equipment and I would bring Matthew with me, but it's, it's really hard to kind of take off as much as, as, you know, as many days as we have shows and they don't really.
[00:50:03] Speaker C: Can't take off every weekend.
[00:50:04] Speaker F: They'll just fire you if you're not gonna work. They don't need you. So it's kind of been some here and there stuff. Keeping the bills paid.
[00:50:11] Speaker G: Yeah, with, with my spot. My boss is like actually super cool with it. He, you know, he wants the band to succeed and grow.
Shout out John.
He's, he's such a cool guy. He's, he's, he's been really supportive. Like we played at Bonita in Knack and him and his wife showed up. You know, it seemed like they had a good time. They really enjoyed the show. It was, it was great. I love that they're, you know, so supportive.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: Probably stressed out after seeing his thing. He's gonna lose his best employee. Like, oh no.
[00:50:43] Speaker A: Yeah, but then he'll have that story.
[00:50:45] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: When you got all those, all the guys that you're working pipe with, whatever you guys are doing, day job, like everybody's gonna have that story.
[00:50:53] Speaker C: I know these guys.
[00:50:54] Speaker A: I know these guys. Like, I remember when they were starting this band.
[00:50:57] Speaker G: Yeah. Like, like whenever we need our van, like maintenance, you know, we bring it into the shop.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's, that's a huge, that's a huge help.
[00:51:06] Speaker C: We park it at my house and I'm like, hey, Jovi, I'm coming up there. I need you to change the oil on the van, dude.
[00:51:11] Speaker G: Perfect time. And pull it on up.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome, man. That's awesome. So what are some goals for this year? I know we're talking about new music. We got some more Pecos Chose and I'm sure more stuff's gonna be getting booked as the team Continues to grow and grow and whatnot. But what are the big goals for Passengers unknown here in 2026?
[00:51:29] Speaker F: For sure, we've got some more singles we're gonna roll out for the rest of the year, I think, and then we're.
[00:51:36] Speaker D: Which.
[00:51:36] Speaker F: Those are already cut. They should be ready. We're gonna, you know, finalize the album art and whatever for those. But we're putting a lot of work into the album as of kind of lately and kind of coming up, so we'll have that ready pretty soon for everybody. So hopefully that'll come out either at the end of this year, kind of beginning mid next year.
[00:51:56] Speaker C: So hopefully as soon as we can get all the songs. As soon as possible.
[00:51:59] Speaker F: But all the songs are written.
[00:52:01] Speaker G: They just need to get it.
[00:52:03] Speaker A: That's awesome. Hell, yeah. What's something that you would tell those. Those guys that were hanging out at that church camp years ago and now how far this thing has gone and you guys are still, in a sense, just getting started.
[00:52:14] Speaker C: I see comments sometimes like, hey, this is the Church camp guitarist. Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, what's up?
[00:52:24] Speaker A: But what would you tell that. That kid that's playing that church camp and you guys are starting this project and now fast forward a few years later.
[00:52:32] Speaker G: Well, actually, whenever we. Whenever we. I think it was our second year being the. The worship group, there was people like, that already knew of us.
[00:52:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:52:40] Speaker G: And so they, like in the middle. I won't say in the middle, but, you know, after we're done with worship and everything, they'll be like, play 3am I'm like, like, no, not here. Not here, bro.
[00:52:51] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:52:52] Speaker C: Gonna get us in trouble up here.
[00:52:53] Speaker A: That's awesome. Well, I appreciate you fellas coming on. And this was the first Passengers Unknown podcast, right?
[00:53:00] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:53:01] Speaker C: At first in person. Yeah, first in person.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: Because the other one you guys did was you guys went on Sam's.
[00:53:06] Speaker C: Right.
[00:53:08] Speaker A: Which. Sam is such a huge, huge fan of you guys, too. And thank you guys for going on there.
[00:53:12] Speaker F: Yeah, bro, he's absolutely nice.
[00:53:13] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been our. Our guy that's been really good about documenting the. The Texas Red Dirt, or as he likes to call it, Shredder.
[00:53:22] Speaker C: You know, the alternatives over here a lot.
[00:53:24] Speaker A: Yeah, the Alternative and Shred Dirt are the rowdy alternative.
[00:53:27] Speaker C: Shred Dirt is a cool. Cool.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: That's a rowdy alternative type of thing Sam's been talking about with guys like yourselves and guys like Austin, Me, and guys like Cody west and, like, just. It's so cool to have you guys on here. I appreciate you coming. Appreciate you getting here an hour plus early. Sorry for the miscommunication on that, but.
And super stoked to have you boys playing tomorrow night at Odies.
[00:53:53] Speaker C: It's gonna be excited.
[00:53:54] Speaker A: Sick.
[00:53:54] Speaker C: Blow the roof.
[00:53:55] Speaker A: You guys are closing out, so that means you guys can play as long as you want. Yeah, there's no. There's no. There's no. There's no. There's. I mean, it's preferred to be five songs, but you take as much time as you want. If you all want to do a sixth or seventh, there's nobody going on after you. So. Okay, you all can just rip it and rip it and see how. See how the vibes are feeling. But appreciate you fellas so much. I'm gonna send you home with. Send you back to the Airbnb with some Surfside.
[00:54:19] Speaker C: Sweet.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: There'll be lemonade Surfsides tomorrow. Accessible at odys. Don't worry, I got you.
And we'll get you guys all hooked up with Merchant tomorrow.
[00:54:28] Speaker G: Absolutely.
[00:54:29] Speaker F: Y' all too. We'll do some trading.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: Dude, absolutely would love the rock some more. I think I got one of the OG shirts.
[00:54:35] Speaker G: Oh, yeah.
[00:54:37] Speaker A: With just the logo back in August. Hell yeah.
[00:54:40] Speaker C: We got a couple more.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: Y' all be sure to go check out the boys from Passengers Unknown. Go stream the out of girls with tattoos 3am all their great songs and be on the lookout for new music that they are working on. Big shout out to our friends from Surfside. I'll hold the can right here. No bubbles, no troubles. It ain't a seltzer, damn it. It's a Surfside. And for more on us visit razor eye.com well, for the passengers Unknown boys, I'm Matt Brill. This has been outside the round.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: I ain't never been the kind for still one place for too long I ain't never been the best AT s I love you to a girl I love Only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me if you really know me you know I'm just a two trick pony maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick pony yeah.