Owen Riegling

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And for more details and to get in touch with the rest of the familia, visit razerowdy.com. Now let's get into it. Outside the round with me, Matt Burrill. A raise rowdy podcast. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Come on. [00:01:09] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt Burrill. A Razor Rowdy podcast. What is going on, everybody? Welcome back to Outside the round. Today we have got a very special episode with arguably one of the biggest raze rowdy supporters that we have seen in the last year. He's from the great white north up in Canada, and he has been crushing it. Just got finished doing some shows with Mr. Tyler Hubbard and just been killing it. Become one of my favorite guys to listen to. We've got our boy Owen Riegling with us. [00:01:38] Speaker B: What's going on, man? Thanks for having me here, brother. [00:01:41] Speaker A: I mean, when I saw that you were coming to town, I was like, we got to have Owen on a damn podcast. You've been coming town. You said a lot more this year. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I've been down here seven or eight times this year, which is a lot for me. It's the most travel I've done ever in my whole life. So it's been cool to come down here and meet folks like you and. Yeah, I Think definitely in Canada, I got to be like one of the biggest razor outdy supporters for sure, dude. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it was funny. So we're tight with a lot of Canadian artists, and we're doing an event next week with or actually when this comes out, a few days after this episode will be coming out. We're doing an event with Country Liberty, the Big Sawyer, and all those guys. We're doing an all Canadian event, and we were talking with Josh Ross about it, and we were saying, like, yeah, our boy Owens, born the hat. He's like, man, I had to stop wearing that hat so much. Freaking Owens, wearing it all the time. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Sorry, Josh, man, this is my favorite hat, dude. [00:02:34] Speaker A: We love it, man. So you said you've been coming down here a lot this year. When was your first time coming down to Nashville? Probably a few years back. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah, my first trip to Nashville was just a trip with my girlfriend and a bunch of her friends and one of my buddies. We just came down, we went to Broadway. She had turned 21. It was for her birthday, and we started just hitting Broadway and just drank way too much. Yeah, it was like a really eye opening experience just seeing that. I knew it was going to be sweet, but I didn't know what to expect. This was probably four years ago now, and ever since then, I've just wanted to come down more and more, and I've made that happen, which has been awesome. And I think we're planning on maybe moving down here at some point. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Bro, let's go. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going to make it happen. [00:03:17] Speaker A: That's awesome. So it's funny you say four years ago, because four years ago for me, so I just celebrated being down here for five years. [00:03:23] Speaker B: Congratulations. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Thank you. I moved down here October of 2018, and from October 2018 through, like, September of 2019, I was a bouncer on Broadway. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Is that right? [00:03:33] Speaker A: Dirks Bentley's Whiskey Rail, where we did. Where whiskey jam is now. You crushed it the other night, bro. [00:03:39] Speaker B: Thank you, man. [00:03:39] Speaker A: That was so cool to see you and the rest of the team out there, but, yeah, so I was the guy checking IDs as folks were coming in. [00:03:47] Speaker B: You may have checked our IDs. [00:03:49] Speaker A: You probably did what I'm saying. [00:03:51] Speaker B: We definitely went to that. [00:03:53] Speaker A: I mean, like, we went to all. [00:03:54] Speaker B: Of the bars, so I'm sure we saw you. [00:03:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's so many Canadian folks that come down here. [00:03:59] Speaker B: So many. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Like, I remember knowing the tricks for what a fake Ontario ID would look like. [00:04:04] Speaker B: What are the tricks? [00:04:04] Speaker A: Ontario ID. It's like the size of the lettering. And then I believe if you have. [00:04:09] Speaker B: Like, a Manitoba ID as an Ontario person, there used to be, like, Manitoba IDs floating around the bars. I went to school in London, Ontario, and it was so obvious when it was a fake, but you just slip the Bouncer 20, they usually let you in. [00:04:23] Speaker A: Yeah, there's bars like that in Nashville, but we used to collect fake IDs. [00:04:27] Speaker B: That's cool. [00:04:27] Speaker A: So I had a book because there were little trophies for us. Yeah, you'd see a North Carolina ID and you're like, this looks like a Pokemon card. It's just so fucking so bad. But yeah, dude, that's awesome that you've had your first experience coming down here then. And were you doing music at that point? [00:04:43] Speaker B: I was, yes. I've been playing in bars in Canada and I got my first guitar when I was ten. And I started writing songs shortly after, really bad songs. And I started writing songs seriously at the age of probably like 16, and just, I was like, I want to do this. And I just started chasing that and I played a bunch of bar gigs and that's kind of what my thing was. Just every Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, playing wherever around where I grew up in Mild Bay, Ontario and surrounding little towns and fairs and all that stuff. So I definitely had the dream of being a country artist when I came down for the first time. And then seeing all these amazing musicians and writers and just meeting all kinds of cool people really inspired me to want to make it even more of a thing and just take it more seriously. I'd say that was like, the spark I needed at that time to just keep pushing forward and doing it. Yeah. [00:05:40] Speaker A: So growing up, what kind of country music is coming out? I know Canadian country radio does such a good job of supporting guys and girls like yourself that are your fellow countrymen, that are Canadians. Like, making sure that there are Canadian artists on Canadian country radio. But also at that time, you're coming up. So you're born, what? 99. 98. [00:05:58] Speaker B: 98. [00:05:59] Speaker A: You're born 98. So you're a kid. Like, you're seven when Jason Al Dean's first record comes out and when, like, Luke Bryan. So you got a taste of all that stuff as well. You got plenty of a taste of the American country and the Canadian country, right? [00:06:13] Speaker B: 100%. Yeah. I always say this, but it's true. Eric Church is one of my biggest sort of inspirations and the biggest reason I wanted to start writing country songs specifically. And the song Springsteen, which is obviously the big one. I was on a trip to Maine with my family back in, I think it was 2011 or whatever that was, whenever that was on the radio at the time. And I just remember that song just sticking in my head and it made me feel like even though I wasn't old enough to feel the things he was singing about, it felt like I had lived it. And I just remember that being a very sort of pivotal moment for me. And I tried to write songs like that, and I still try to write songs like that because that's the stuff that. It really makes me feel something, and, yeah, that was a cool memory for me. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Have you been to an Earth church show? [00:07:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I've been to several. I've been to every show he's had in Canada. I feel like really? I don't know. I've been to a bunch his show. [00:07:10] Speaker A: And it's evolved over the years. My first time seeing him was in 2017. It was when he was doing the 61 day. Like, you put out that compilation that's 61 days in church, where he had no opener and every night was different, and the shows were like two and a half, 3 hours. [00:07:24] Speaker B: Is that the hold my own tour? I think it was. I went to that tour. I went to two nights. I saw it in London on area. I was in college at the time. And then we went and saw it in Toronto the next night. So. Yeah, it was just so sick. [00:07:36] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And he'S a guy that's evolved over time, but it's still, like, whether it's off the chief record or it's off his most recent projects, you still know it's a fucking Eric church. [00:07:47] Speaker B: Have you seen his recent show? Yes, I saw it a couple of months ago at Bud stage in Toronto. And there's like 20 people on stage and it's crazy. [00:07:54] Speaker A: He flies the big flag behind. [00:07:57] Speaker B: It was so badass. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw him up in Cincinnati. [00:08:01] Speaker B: Nice. [00:08:01] Speaker A: On that tour. [00:08:02] Speaker B: It's almost in Canada. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah, Ohio. Yeah, we're working our way up. And it was church and then Travis Trit and the Muscanine Bloodline guys, which was a full circle moment for Nick and I going to Ohio to see was. Which was cool. [00:08:16] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:08:17] Speaker A: You said you went to Maine, so a lot of Canadians go to Maine for vacation and shit. My dad's actually from Maine. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Is that right? [00:08:23] Speaker A: I grew up going up there all the time, like every summer. [00:08:26] Speaker B: It's a sweet spot. [00:08:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I grew up going up. My dad grew up in Westbrook, which is just outside of Portland. So down east section. I have been to Bajaba and been up north, which I know is where a lot of folks go to. But Canada is such a country area, especially like a town where you're from. It is that small town. And you do such a good job of telling the story of your hometown in your music. [00:08:51] Speaker B: Thank you, man. [00:08:51] Speaker A: I've never been out of the States. I've been to plenty of small towns. In America. But you paint that picture of what it was like growing up in a small town with wheat fields and all that stuff. [00:09:02] Speaker B: 100%. That's the main. I feel like theme in my music is just writing about where I'm from. It's like the only thing I really know. So I feel like it's all I have to write about at this point. I'm from a small town. I've still lived there. I haven't really moved out. And when I wrote, I mean, the song right now that people are gravitating towards is called Old dirt Roads and so fucking good. It's just a song that I wrote when I was in college in my dorm. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Oh, that was an early write. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that song was written in 2018 or 2019. [00:09:34] Speaker A: Wow. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I wrote it and I had actually put it out before it was out for two and a half years and I just recorded it, produced it in my bedroom and I put it out. It sounded like crap. And when I signed with Universal, they're like, that's a song. We're going to redo it and just kind of give it a new feel and a new life. And then, yeah, I guess it found its home, so I'm really happy about that. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, you've got over a million month listeners on Spotify, which I know a lot of artists are like, yeah, I don't like to look at what my following is at and this stresses. Yeah, I get like that with the raise, rowdy shit, too, like looking at our socials and engagement stuff. But, bro, from when I first met you earlier this year to now, it just seems like the past four, five, six months have just been like a boom. What has that all been like? [00:10:18] Speaker B: It has been wild and I'm very thankful for what has happened this year. We just started recording music in April and we put our first song out in June and now it's November and I feel like, yeah, the last four months has just been crazy and it's been happening faster than I dreamed of it happening. It can change in a flash, too. Just as know. I just got know keep doing what I'm doing. But it's been wild. I mean, getting to go on tour with Tyler and we got a bunch of exciting, fun stuff coming up that I'm very excited about. I think 2024 is going to be an amazing year and, yeah, I don't know, it's just mind blowing, very surreal at times and hard to wrap my head around. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, so what are you touring around in as far as the vehicle right now? [00:11:01] Speaker B: Well, for this last tour, we had to fly because Canada. It was a Canadian tour, so. Canada. [00:11:07] Speaker A: You were out west? [00:11:09] Speaker B: We don't have a bus, so we're not driving out there. We don't have a driver. So we flew to Calgary and just kind of rented vans and went from there and did a bit of driving to Edmonton and then kind of just hopped on little planes and flew from Calgary to Winnipeg and Saskatoon and all these places. So, yeah, a lot of flying. And then in Ontario, it's a little easier because we're all from there, so we have vehicles, and we just made it know, doing the whole vehicle and van thing. It's fun, man. It's great. Time to bond with the boys in the. Yeah, so much fun. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah. How many guys do you have? What does the touring crew look like of how many guys? [00:11:47] Speaker B: Our crew is pretty small. It got me Benny, Brad, Matt, Mark, and then tour manager Josh, who does front of house tour managing merch. He's, like, holding it down for us all, and he's just the man. Josh is amazing. [00:12:03] Speaker A: That is so important to have because I've done that. I've been the Swiss army knife before. I've never been a sound guy, but the tour manager merged driver combo. That's been my bread and butter when I've been out on the road. So shout out to Josh, I'm sure. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Shout out, Josh. [00:12:18] Speaker A: And how long have you known all those guys? What was the process of putting that team and together? [00:12:25] Speaker B: Some of them are. I mean, Josh is relatively new. He just kind of came on board this year because we didn't really have a need for a tour manager at the time. We were just making it work. But I've known Ben for five years, and same with Brad. They were my very first band that I ever had, so it's cool to have them out. And we're really good friends. And the other guys are newer as well, in the last two years, so they're great guys. We all get along, and. Yeah, it's just so much fun. [00:12:53] Speaker A: That's freaking awesome, dude. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:12:55] Speaker A: And it's a goal of mine to get up to Canada, especially being from New York. People are like, wait, you haven't been out of the country? You haven't even been to fucking Canada. [00:13:02] Speaker B: I can't believe you've never been to. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Canada, because especially, like, with family in Maine, it's not far. Like, I've seen the signs where it turns into kilometers, where you see how far away Montreal and Toronto are in kilometers. When you cross over. [00:13:13] Speaker B: You gotta go, man. If you ever come up to Canada, let me know. And to our place. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Where's the play? I appreciate that. Where's the first place in Canada I need to check out? Because chief told me when I know you watched that episode. Kevin's art shout out to chief with Vancouver and Toronto are like the two. And Montreal is cool, too, but I know they talk about it in letter. Kenny. The Djens that go fishing in Quebec. Everybody goes fishing to Quebec. The DJens from upcountry. Where's the spot that I got to go to my first trip? [00:13:42] Speaker B: It's tough to. It depends what you're looking for. But I love going out to Calgary and going to the mountains in Banff and Jasper and those things. Like, if you like hiking, I don't know if you like to do that kind of stuff, but. So it's beautiful out there, and we try to get out there as much as we can. My now fiance and I, we just got engaged, which is wild. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Yeah. How's that going? Has that sunk in yet? [00:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah, because we've been dating for so long. We've been together for almost seven years. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's about time I probably asked the question. I think she was getting a little antsy shout out, Liv. But, yeah, it's great, man. I'm very excited. [00:14:21] Speaker A: How'd you pop the question? [00:14:24] Speaker B: I took her on a hike and then we had our dog with us. I was so nervous. [00:14:29] Speaker A: I bet. [00:14:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And then I just got down on one knee in front of this little creek and made it happen. She had no idea she was wearing a tuke and she had her hood up. She was, like, bundled up because it's so cold in Canada and. Yeah, so funny, but it was hilarious. And then we had her family come over and we had a little party that night and it was a great time. [00:14:47] Speaker A: That's awesome, man. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So fun. [00:14:49] Speaker A: That's good. How old are you're, what, 25? [00:14:51] Speaker B: 25. [00:14:52] Speaker A: So you're 25 now. You've got a record deal. You've gotten to go touring with the major artists like Tyler Hubbard. You've got a bunch of opportunities coming your way. People are listening to your music all over the fucking world. You're doing pretty good for where you're at age wise in your life, bro. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Crazy, man. Yeah. I've always dreamed of being in a position like this, so to say it's happening is just mind blowing. And I'm just trying not to think about it too much because I don't know what I'm doing, man, I have no idea. I'm just taking it day by day and fortunate enough to have an amazing team around me at Universal and my management team, and everybody's just super nice people and, yeah, we work together to just take the steps we need. Like, honestly, I have no idea how I got here. I don't know how I got here. Yeah. Just so much fun. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Well, when did you feel like shit was starting to change? Was it when Universal came in the picture and you were on a show or a competition up in? [00:15:48] Speaker B: Yeah, like I said, I was doing the bar stuff for years and years, and I submitted a video for. It's called the Boots and Hearts Emerging Artist Showcase. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Oh, the big festival. [00:15:57] Speaker B: Boots and Hearts? Yeah. Which is the biggest festival in Canada. [00:16:00] Speaker A: That'll probably be my first trip to Canada. We're festivals. [00:16:02] Speaker B: You got to go to Boots and Hearts. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Nikki and I go to a lot of festivals here in the States, so I feel like our first time going to Canada has to be a road trip to Boots and hearts. [00:16:10] Speaker B: You have to. It's the best, man. I owe a lot to Boots and hearts. I was going there for years prior to entering in the contest, just going and watching music and having a great time. It's just such a well run festival, and the people who run it are amazing. But that was the spark that kind of sent me on my way to getting connected with Universal because they were partnered up for that showcase. And lots of artists who have gone on to be somebody in Canada have won that contest, like Jade Eagleson and the Barker Boys. And, yeah, there's lots of great music that has come out of that contest. So to be on that stage and just get a chance to compete for that was surreal. And then to actually win it was even more crazy. And just feel like every week since, that has just been something new. So that was sort of the thing that started it all. [00:16:58] Speaker A: Dude, what's really cool to me is that you're a lot like us with razor. Addy, how old were you when you went to your first concert? Do you remember? [00:17:06] Speaker B: Yep, I went to CMT Fest in Kitchen, Ontario. I don't know how old I was. It was probably like eight or nine. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Years been going, but you would just. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Go, but I've been to many shows before that. But that was like. [00:17:20] Speaker A: That's what I mean, like, your first going to shows, your first live music show. Because I remember I was eight years old when I went to mine, and then it was just concerts became a part of my life. Like, just loving music, and you seem to be that way, too. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Oh, I go to tons of. I've been to so many shows this year. It's been wild. But, yeah, I mean, festivals are a great way to see all your favorite bands in one spot. But, yeah, I've been going to music for a long time. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Do you remember your first concert? You remember who you saw? [00:17:46] Speaker B: Well, I guess I classified my first concert as that when I was going to see a big band. I'd been to many little kind of local things, but never saw a big band. I was supposed to go see Eric Church, but then it got rained out, and he ended up not being able to put on the show. But I saw Brothers Osborne that day. Then we ended up getting tickets to see Zach Brown band the next night. So that was like, my first big. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Yeah, my first was Tim McGraw. Hell, yeah. When he was doing, like, the hold my own tour style. Yeah, it was pre sobriety. Tim McGraw. You had the Fu Manchu. It was pre, like, live. Like you were dying. Like when he was on real good, man. And like that. It was almost like 2002, 2003. I was like eight years old. I remember being in school the next day and just being so tired. My mom and my aunts took me to that shit. [00:18:32] Speaker B: That's so cool. [00:18:33] Speaker A: And it's just there's something about going in the concert culture, and then to be on the other side of it and be the guy on the fucking stage and seeing what goes into all that stuff has to be pretty fucking wild, too. [00:18:48] Speaker B: It's wild. Like going to concerts as a kid, I just remember feeling the kick drum was like this thing. It was like the thud you get is like, that's the thing that stuck with me. And that's the thing where it made me want to do it. Just that feeling and the energy at a show, it's crazy. But, yeah, being on stage, iT's great, man. It's cool. It's something that I've always wanted to do, and, yeah, it's just so cool to connect with fans and see people singing along. It's awesome. [00:19:17] Speaker A: What are the Canadian bars like? Because I've gotten to know the Southeastern bars from, because that's how Trey and Musk and I and the guys that I'm connected to came up. And so many artists, particularly in country music, come up because there is that tie to the blue collar culture, small town culture. What's a Canadian bar gig like? I'm sure you got horror stories. I'm sure you got great experiences. That's part of the grind to get to where you're at the 100,000 hours, the four hour shifts with no breaks on a Thursday, a Friday, and some shit. Whole bar somewhere. Yeah. [00:19:47] Speaker B: So I started off doing a lot of acoustic stuff because I didn't have a band when I first started, and I would just go and bring my own PA system because a lot of them aren't equipped with stages or whatever. So I would just bring it in and set it up and, yeah, just play songs on my acoustic guitar for 4 hours. There's a local bar in Mildmate called Harley's, and I played there so many times, and they're like family to me, you know, been so supportive from the very start. Like, one of my very first solo acoustic gigs was there, and then I worked my way up. There was always these bars that I looked up to playing in the city because I'm from a small town, which is 2 hours from any city. So kind of cut my teeth around my area and started to get a little bit of a following. And then I wanted to play the Stampede Ranch in Guelph for so long, which is this honky tonk just like a college bar, basically. They got a stage, they got sound. It's a full band thing. And I was like, if I get to play there someday, that means I made it. And then I got the call to play there one day, and I was like, crazy. And that's like a Thursday, Friday Saturday thing. 4 hours every night playing cover songs and just keeping people on the dance floor. That's how I sort of cut my teeth with a band and in front of people and trying to keep people entertained and stuff like that. But, yeah, I would say it's very similar, that bar, to the bars around here. But the other stuff that I was playing was like hole in the wall. Not really known for live music, but people show up to eat dinner, and there's a guy playing guitar in the corner, and they're like, sick. [00:21:15] Speaker A: You hope that they like country music. What would you do that wasn't like country in your covers? I would imagine you're doing like, classic rock shit. [00:21:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Some of my favorite songs like Champagne Supernova by Oasis, that type of stuff. I mean, you got to throw Wonderwall in there. I'm trying to think I'm drawing a blank on what I used to play. I have ultimate guitar on my phone. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Everybody has that, dude. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Hundreds of songs that I would just sift through and try to keep it interesting and play different stuff every night and just have fun with it. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Yeah. What was COVId up there like COVID was. But you were also in a small town. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So in my was. It didn't really change that much as far as what people were doing. [00:21:59] Speaker A: That's how it was. And regionally in America, it was kind of like that. [00:22:05] Speaker B: It was. It was a tough time. It just sucked not being able to play shows, and I wrote a lot of songs, which was nice, but it was boring for me, really. Like, just wanting to play shows and not being able to sucked. But as far as I live on a farm out there, so it didn't really change as far as living and not being able to go to the store or whatever. Yeah, it was all right. [00:22:30] Speaker A: What is farm life like? Because I've been around farms, but I'm from New York, so I'm from the suburbs of the city. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:38] Speaker A: So what are you guys farming up there? [00:22:40] Speaker B: So we have 100 acres cash crop. We kind of rotate between soybeans, winter wheat, and corn. And when we take the wheat off, I used to rip my dirt bikes and four wheelers through the field. I had a little dirt bike track in our backyard, and, yeah, it was just so fun growing up there and having all the space to just hang out, and we have a bush still, and we used to build, like, bike jumps in the back, and it was just a sweet spot to grow up. [00:23:06] Speaker A: You guys love your motorsports stuff in Canada? Because I've heard other guys say that before, too. Like, I remember Josh saying that he used. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Josh. [00:23:16] Speaker A: Motocross is like a big thing, too. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I never raced. Wanted to, but you would just fuck. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Around in the backyard kind of thing, which to me is even more fun because fucking go anywhere. [00:23:26] Speaker B: It was so fun. I wanted to race so bad growing up. My dad never let me, and I thank him for that now, but at the time, I was like, come on, I want to so bad. I would have my buddies all over, and like I said, I had a track, we would line it up like we're know, racing. And it was so much fun, like, looking back on that stuff, but I never actually raced, but it was on. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Like, I've never done the motorcycle thing. [00:23:48] Speaker B: No, I've never done ridden a dirt bike or anything. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Like, had my budy Mitch. He's a big Facebook marketplace guy, and he just buys random shit. So he got this little very small. It wasn't even a four wheeler, it was like a three wheeler kind of thing. We used to do donuts at Trey's house with it. And so that was my one time going on something like that. I've been to some of the different things. I'll do them at the arena down here in Nashville, but I've never been on one. But it seems like the culture of that is just wild. [00:24:21] Speaker B: It is. I'm sort of out of the loop now, but I used to go to races all the time, and it was so much fun growing up, getting to do that. Luckily, I didn't hurt myself, which is something that most people do. Most people break a lot of bones doing that stuff, and I didn't see it at the time, but I probably would have ended up hurting myself if I would have kept going with it. So, thankfully, I sold the bike. [00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Were you into other sports and shit when you were? [00:24:46] Speaker B: I played hockey growing up. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Very Canadian of you to say. So what's your team? Is it the Maple Leafs? [00:24:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm a Leafs guy. I'm a Leafs guy, yeah. And, I mean, the preds are pretty electric, too. Getting to Go to a game down here. It's awesome. Live music. [00:25:01] Speaker A: You would not think that hockey would be huge down here. [00:25:04] Speaker B: It's a hockey town. It really is. [00:25:06] Speaker A: It is. Very much. And a lot of people don't know this, but in the 90s is when Nashville got a football team and a hockey team. It happened around the same time, and it had to do. They opened the General Motors plant from Michigan. They moved a bunch of people from Michigan down to Nashville. [00:25:23] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Because they opened the motor plants and stuff, and that was right around when the hockey team came in and the football team. So I'm thinking they figured, we're bringing all these Northern people down, we got to give them something. And the electricity of a predator's game, people get really fucking into it. [00:25:35] Speaker B: It's so good. I've only been to one or two down to actually on the first trip that I took down here with my friends for Liv's birthday, we were trying to go to a Preds game, and we ended up just scalping some tickets out front because we went to the box, and there was a seat here and a seat here, but we couldn't all sit together. So let's go find a bunch of seats together. We found somebody outside of the rink, and he's like, I got you. You guys are going to be all together. It's a great spot. We paid way too much for the tickets. We were drunk, and we're like, let's go. We got up there, he walks us in. We start looking for our seat, and it was like a standing room only thing at the very top. And the whole thing was covered, so we just didn't have a spot. We were just chilling, drinking rum and Cokes, and trying to poke our heads out and see what was going on. But I just remember the energy being crazy and having, like, a live band at the game is cool. And intermission and stuff. It's sick. It's so Nashville. [00:26:32] Speaker A: And they throw a catfish on the ice here, which, again, is the tribute to being all the Michigan folks coming down with what the Red Wings do. [00:26:40] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Throwing the octopus out. So, you like hockey? You baseball? You into any of the other? [00:26:45] Speaker B: Not really. Not really? No. Yeah. I don't really watch football or baseball or anything, but hockey is sort of just my thing. Yeah. [00:26:53] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. So you move down here. We'll get you to some Preds games. [00:26:58] Speaker B: I would love to go as much as possible, and even. Never. I've never been to a football game. Oh, bro, I want to go so bad. [00:27:05] Speaker A: You got to go to a college football game, which is tough in the world that we live in. With touring Saturdays, it's show day. You're in XYZ City, around the country, up in Canada, but you got to go to a college football game. [00:27:19] Speaker B: I want to go so bad, bro. [00:27:20] Speaker A: It's fucking crazy. These people, like, they base their entire lives on 13 weeks in the fall. That is like, if Alabama loses more than, like, a game or two, people will be miserable for a year until the following season. [00:27:35] Speaker B: Man, I got to get into it. Tailgating seems great, too, dude. [00:27:39] Speaker A: They're wild, man. They're crazy. And it's different. Schools have different things. My girlfriend's from South Carolina, and she's a big South Carolina Gamecocks fan, which is funny. Their nickname is the Cox. I got a shirt on. You can buy shirts that just say Cox across. Yeah, because they're like roosters, but they do tailgating. They're bougie style of tailgating. They have, like, train cars, like, cabooses, and they call them cockabooses. And they deck them out, and you have, like, flat screen TVs on there. And it's. People, like, partying on this train car. [00:28:11] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [00:28:11] Speaker A: And that's the tailgate. Or you go down to Ole Miss in Mississippi, and it's like the Bougie tailgate, which you wouldn't expect for Mississippi. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Right? [00:28:18] Speaker A: But that's where the old Southern money's at. And they have these big tents, and they hang chandeliers up in their tents and eat with, like, fine china. [00:28:26] Speaker B: No way. [00:28:27] Speaker A: I'm just here to drink beer and eat hot dogs and fucking. It's like a five star tailgate. And they go down to Bama. It's just a shit show. Tennessee is just. There's such like a culture around it and then there's music around it too, where there's so many guys that come up playing the frat parties in these collEge. Just like I'm sure you would go through doing college towns in Ontario and there's guys that'll play the tailgates of the football games. Like Trey Lewis used to do that all the time. The Southern acts used to do gotta go. It's a spectacle. And then the go and then the bars after the game if it's a day game. Fucking nuts, bro. [00:29:06] Speaker B: You gotta be able to rally to do that. Like to hit the tailgate. [00:29:09] Speaker A: I stay sober, bro. [00:29:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:10] Speaker A: I just rip cigars. Like I'm a big. [00:29:12] Speaker B: You gotta figure it out. You gotta figure it like. Yeah. Starting at what time do they start? When they start tailgating? [00:29:18] Speaker A: LSU is probably the earliest one, so LSU doesn't normally do day games. They just strictly do night games because their stadium, it holds over 100,000 people. They call it Death Valley. And they've spent millions of dollars on the Tigers. And they have live tigers, like a zoo. And they have them in like a big. They built like this huge. It's like the size of probably this whole street. And it's like outside the stadium where all these tigers are. Whatever, but they open the tailgates at like 708:00 in the morning and the game's at like 07:00 p.m. [00:29:49] Speaker B: So everybody's just hammered 12 hours. [00:29:51] Speaker A: And then they go into the game. [00:29:52] Speaker B: And then they hit the bars after. Yeah, that's hardcore. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Every Saturday. [00:29:57] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:29:57] Speaker A: Every Saturday in the fall. It's what they fucking do. [00:30:00] Speaker B: I want to go there sort of tigers. Yeah. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Baton Rouge is. Baton Rouge is really cool. There's a cool club down there that's called the Texas Club, but it's in Louisiana. Don't know why that is. But there's some cool venues and that's one thing I like about the scene that I've gotten to do is I've gotten to go being from, I mean, I could tell you where Alabama and Mississippi were on a map, but I've been there so much that I've gotten to experience the different cultures in the South. Dude, that's something that you're going to get to like because. Have you done much touring in the States yet or has it been Canada. You've never done. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Tyler Hubbard was my first tour. [00:30:33] Speaker A: Really? [00:30:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:35] Speaker A: That's a hell of a first. [00:30:36] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I know it's crazy, but. [00:30:40] Speaker A: The difference is so people be like, oh, it's happening overnight kind of thing. But no, it's the difference between first tour and first show. There's some guys and girls where that touring opportunity is the first time they're getting on stage in front of a lot of people. You've been playing? [00:30:55] Speaker B: I've been in gigs and seasons. [00:30:56] Speaker A: The bars do so much for coaching guys and girls up in shows. You've played shows to no one before? [00:31:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I've played hundreds and hundreds of shows. I don't know if you call them shows, but I've played for so many different places and learned sort of what goes into it behind the scenes as far as how you make a show happen and stuff like that. So when we got to actually go and tour and do that, it felt new, but it also felt like I was at home being on the stage, and I played many festivals and stuff, and you kind of learn the whole back end of what makes a show happen. And that made it easier for sure. But, yeah, my first tour across Canada with Tyler Hubbard, and that's crazy. I got to sing Cruise with him every night, which was wild. [00:31:42] Speaker A: And people don't know if you listen to the program a lot, you know, from the chief episode we did. FGL has a lot of Canadian influence in it. They do those songs, Joey Moy and Chief, that rock sound that came from Nickelback, that came from default, that came from my darkest days, that came from all those Canadian rock bands in the 2000s when you and I were growing up, is what that sound of the country. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Totally, man. Totally. [00:32:12] Speaker A: So that's like, to be a part of that, for that to be your first one, given the connection to Canada and all that stuff, that's really fucking cool but crazy. I was saying there's like, you've done shows. You've done so many of those bar gigs where you do the 4 hours. Maybe people are listening, maybe they're not. Now you're in clubs and theaters with a guy who's a legendary name in country music now for what he's done over the last decade, and people are there paying money to see a show that you're a part of. You don't have to win anybody over. You don't have to worry about, are these people paying attention? Oh, how much time do I have left on this bar gig, bro? That's got to be the best fucking feeling, because I remember when that happened for Trey. He was like, it's surreal because you put in so many hours of not making a ton of money and figuring out a way to keep living out your dream. And now to be at the level. [00:33:06] Speaker B: That you're at, bro, it's wild, man. It's always very cool when you go to play a show and people are facing you and not eating dinner, like in the corner. Yeah, that's pretty damn cool. Yeah, we had so much fun and it was a cool experience to have. We had the same show night after night and to get to start on night one and then just develop it and feel. By the end of the tour, we felt so tight and just. We knew what was happening and it was just a cool experience to get to do that. And I'm excited for many more to come. [00:33:42] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, do we have any word of when the first show stateside could be. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Not yet, man, but we're working on it. [00:33:52] Speaker A: So I was going to say there's got to be agency interest, right? [00:33:55] Speaker B: Yeah, we've had a couple of meetings and we're just still talking about it and we're taking our time with it. And, yeah, I just don't want to rush anything and I want to make sure that it's the right fit and we have a good plan and we can try to make something really happen down here. And that's obviously the goal. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Your first show that you do that's under 6 hours away. If I don't have anything going, like six hour radius of Nashville, I will fucking be there. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:34:22] Speaker A: I will drive out with me. [00:34:25] Speaker B: I've driven 6 hours. That's a hike though, man. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Dude, I mean, I used to drive a van and trailer to fucking South Dakota. [00:34:31] Speaker B: True. [00:34:32] Speaker A: I did the tour manager three years. Yeah, I've taken a van to Texas with eight other dudes in the van. And I'm the sober guy driving with my air pods in while they're passing around a bottle of fireball. [00:34:42] Speaker B: That's hilarious, dude. [00:34:44] Speaker A: Last year, yeah, I'll do a drive to New York and I'll stop for fuel, but I'll just go 14 hours like nothing. I'm just a road dog. So I said it to say, your first show in the States, it's like a ticket, like an Owen regling show. We will be there. [00:35:00] Speaker B: I'll be wearing my raised rowdy hat. [00:35:02] Speaker A: Dude, fuck yeah. [00:35:03] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:35:03] Speaker A: And we appreciate you wearing that shit so much. It goes a long way for us. And I came on raised Rowdy in April. I'd always been kind of repping it, but I came on as a co owner in April with Nick. And the coolest part for us is finding artists that are on the rise up, like getting to know y'all at the ground level as you're starting your journey at this next step that you're on. Grand. Your journey started years ago in Canada, but your journey of doing stuff here in the States and all that shit and then getting to watch you guys grow and trying to grow our thing while you guys are all gone. [00:35:39] Speaker B: Raise Rowdy was my first. That was my first Nashville Writers round, so I can always say that. [00:35:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Have you done any other. I know you did Whiskey jam the other night. That was your first whiskey jam, right? [00:35:47] Speaker B: Yeah, first whiskey jam and then. Yeah, a couple of months go. First writers round and second writers round. [00:35:53] Speaker A: Tonight, bro, which we're very excited about. Have you been to live Oak before? [00:35:57] Speaker B: No. [00:35:57] Speaker A: So Live Oak's a cool bar, and what's cool about it is we've had some really cool memories in there. I've been hosting rounds there. So it used to be a bar called Frisky Frogs. And you understand bar culture because of the scene you came up in and being down here. So Frisky Frogs is one of those bars. The Mumbrian is wild. The Mumbrian Street. Have you been on that street? [00:36:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I know where Live Oak is. I've been there. [00:36:16] Speaker A: So you have been to live Oak. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Okay, cool. I've been outside of it. [00:36:21] Speaker A: Okay, we'll welcome you in tonight. So you have, like, tin roof down there. Nashville Institution, Wild Bar. Like, you have their stereotype of the tin roof guys or the tin roof. Just. It's a wild time. It's like the party scene. And now that bar isn't as busy as it was because Bar stool opened up downtown. So it's like that college crap. Dog House used to be popping. Not as popping anymore because the house bands changed or whatever. Live Oak used to be a bar called Frisky Frogs. [00:36:49] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Place you could get in there, talk about IDs. Before you could literally get in there with a fucking, like a fucking deck of cards. Anything you could use, like the McLovin thing from Super Bad. [00:37:00] Speaker B: That's hilarious, dude. [00:37:02] Speaker A: They had a couch in front of the stage. People would sit. It was like a little love seat, and kids would just be on there fucking getting after it. [00:37:08] Speaker B: No way. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Drunk college kids, dude. It was crazy. [00:37:12] Speaker B: What happened to Frisky Frogs? [00:37:14] Speaker A: Live Oak the guys from Live Oak. [00:37:15] Speaker B: They just took it over. [00:37:16] Speaker A: They bought it? Yeah, they bought it and opened in 2019. And we started doing events there. September of 2019 was when I started doing my rounds there on Tuesdays. And it's the best sounding of the bars in Midtown. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Nice. [00:37:32] Speaker A: The people that run it are fucking great. It actually has good food, believe it or not, which is cool. And then we do our butt rock night that we do, like, full band shit there. We do all kinds of stuff. So it's a cool bar. And for us, that was the spot we had Bailey play when he first moved to town. He wasn't even in. We had Bailey, we had Meg Moroni a bunch. We had Dylan Marlo a bunch. It's a spot where we've gotten to see a lot of folks come up by doing rounds last four years. [00:37:57] Speaker B: That's so cool, man. [00:37:59] Speaker A: And tonight we have you. We have Ben Chase, which we're really fucking excited got. I'm trying to remember. We got a good lineup. Like a good mix across the board of their people. We got a guy named Moose tonight. Moose Miller. His first name is literally fucking Moose. [00:38:17] Speaker B: And he looks. [00:38:18] Speaker A: Yeah, and he looks like an old school Revolutionary War, like, Civil War general. Like, he's got this mustache and the hair. We got Tyler King playing tonight. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yeah, he's cool. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Have you met him? [00:38:30] Speaker B: I haven't met him, but he's amazing at singing and he looks like a badass. He's great. Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker A: I mean, the fact he's Luke combS, guitar player. [00:38:39] Speaker B: Him, I've seen Luke a bunch of guess I've seen. [00:38:45] Speaker A: So we're excited to fucking have you. [00:38:47] Speaker B: It's going to be fun, man. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Where in town do you usually stay at when you come down here? [00:38:51] Speaker B: Right now I'm staying with my buddy Jesse. He's got a place down here. He just moved from Peterborough, Ontario. He's got a place in Madison, so I stay with him. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Madison Matahood? [00:39:01] Speaker B: Yes, sir. What part of a great little neighborhood? [00:39:05] Speaker A: He's in a good neighborhood. [00:39:06] Speaker B: He's in a great neighborhood. Yep. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Because Nashville is one of those cities. And I don't know how it is up in Toronto or Montreal or some of the bigger cities up there in Canada, but you have, like, good parts and you have your bad parts. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:16] Speaker A: And out here in Hermitage, for example, you've got the rusty nail. And then those woods next to the Rusty nail get a little sketchy. There's folks living in those woods. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Is there really? [00:39:26] Speaker A: There's about 300 people in those woods. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Shit. [00:39:28] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like a whole community. Yeah, there's some crazy parts of Nashville. [00:39:35] Speaker B: I'm still learning what Nashville is all about, but, yeah, it seems like it's a bunch of different little communities. Like you said, it's all different, but it's all cool. And everything has its own little vibe. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Have you been to East Nashville yet? [00:39:48] Speaker B: I don't think I have. [00:39:49] Speaker A: East Nashville is like Brooklyn, New York, where it's like, really? You would not feel like you're in Nashville. [00:39:54] Speaker B: I might go there after this because I got nothing going on this afternoon. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Dude, it's, like, artsy and just like a different kind of, like breweries. Like craft breweries. [00:40:04] Speaker B: I love that. [00:40:04] Speaker A: Like, that we go over there and smoke cigars all the time. Really like, our cigar spots. That's where our budy Kurt lives. So east is cool, but I used to live in Antioch, and it was like, fireworks or gunshots every. Like, you'd ask yourself, was that a firework or was that. [00:40:17] Speaker B: Oh, my God, I've been down there before. We had a rehearsal there the other day. But, yeah, I feel like I'm slowly, you know, in grand theft auto, when you're, like, uncovering the Map, you got to explore to figure it out. I'm starting to put the pieces together and understand how this city works, but it's such a great spot, man. It's awesome. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, there's a reason 100 people a day are moving here right now. [00:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Every Uber I get in is like, Nashville is not what it used to be. Like, it's growing so fast. Everybody tells me in the five years. [00:40:44] Speaker A: I've been here, the skyline's completely different. [00:40:47] Speaker B: Really? [00:40:47] Speaker A: Skyline's completely different. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Things are just going up, dude. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And the traffic's just crazy. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Well, I think I'm going to add to that statistic. [00:40:53] Speaker A: You should. We want you down here. I'm totally cool. People say, stop coming and tell people, stop moving here. Like, no, keep moving here. Because what drives this city is guys and girls that are pursuing the music thing. [00:41:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:41:06] Speaker A: And it adds that creativity. And you have, like, your class almost of people that move here. For me, I moved here in 2018, and I remember the guys that moved here around the same time as I did. Guys like Trey Lewis, Ella Langley, Dylan Marlowe, people like, in that where we all moved around the same time, and you look back on, like, you all kind of come up together because they're going out to the bars to meet people the same time that you are, and then naturally you hit it off. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's how it works. [00:41:33] Speaker A: I feel like you start fucking writing together and then so and so gets a little bit further along quicker than so and so. And they bring them out to open. You're playing a show and you meet so and so at Red Door and that becomes your homie and your big co writer. And then you get an opportunity to go out and do a run of shows and they let you bring an opener. You bring that guy or that girl. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Yeah, man. That's how it happens. That's always how it happens. I feel like you just got to be a good person and be able to just go have fun with people. And then eventually, like you said, you get into rooms and you start working your way up and. Yeah, it's like a community here in Nashville. I've noticed everybody's sort of friendly with everybody and it's just everybody's trying to lift each other up, which is very, very welcoming. [00:42:17] Speaker A: What is the Canadian country community? Is it like that? It's similar, yeah, because the difference is, like, Nashville is a city. Almost everybody in the community is in this city. Canada is a whole fucking country. So you have your guys that are way out west, you have your guys and girls that are Eastern, and then you have all that stuff in the mean. [00:42:37] Speaker B: In a smaller version of what Happens down here, I would say I'm from Ontario, so there's like an Ontario scene. Ontario has its own country music awards. BC has its own country Music awards. And I feel like it's hard to connect with people out west because it's like a full two day drive away. So I don't really know what's going on out there. But in Ontario, I mean, they have writers rounds and there's lots of great artists that are coming up and. Yeah, it's similar. Just a way smaller scale. Yeah. [00:43:09] Speaker A: And I feel like Canadian country is like, now is the time for it. Just because some that Nikki and I get to see being in town and hosting all the events that we do and being out at the bars and doing all that stuff. There are more and more people every fucking day coming down from Canada. And there are artists that are having songs on American radio. Your folks that have been big in Canada for a while are starting to get American attention. [00:43:33] Speaker B: That's right, man. [00:43:34] Speaker A: You're seeing Josh Ross do what he's. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Josh is killing it. [00:43:37] Speaker A: You see Meg Patrick doing what she's doing. You see Jade Eagleson, you see the James Barker Boys. And James has been doing it for a long time. And you shouted him out. One of your songs. Right? Is that when you say a JB song, is that. [00:43:47] Speaker B: Yeah, you can take it how you want. That song is. I'm singing about Justin Bieber. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Really? [00:43:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Because my girlfriend Liv is, like, the biggest Bieber fan ever. Oh, yeah. [00:44:01] Speaker A: And Bieber's from fucking Canada. [00:44:03] Speaker B: He's from Stratford, which is like an hour from where I live. [00:44:05] Speaker A: So was. Oh, shit. Okay, now we Got a whole nother thing. [00:44:09] Speaker B: This is mean. I listen to JB all the time. James Barker. So I feel like it can be about James Barker as well. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Well, because I was thinking JB, like, thinking just country artists that you like. They're like country bands, but I didn't realize. So Bieber's probably still, like the shit in, huh? [00:44:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, to live. Yes. He's never not been the she. She loves Justin Bieber. [00:44:34] Speaker A: I remember when he was, like, in America, when he was. Well, he still is in America, but when he was really being a degenerate, there was a petition to get him deported to Canada. [00:44:46] Speaker B: I think I remember that. [00:44:47] Speaker A: Yeah. There was, like a whole movement. [00:44:49] Speaker B: Now he's just chilling. I feel like. I don't know what he's up. Just, you know, just Bieber. Hopefully he's still writing songs and hopefully he puts more music out. I'm a fan of Bieber, too, man. Bieber's great. [00:44:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Are you just saying that because of the fiance or you? [00:45:01] Speaker B: No, you like the. There's. There's some songs I love. Yeah, I think he's great. And it'sick that he's from Canada, too. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. If you're like Mount Rushmore of, like, Canadian music artists, who would have you got, like, bieber. I mean, like, shy Twain. I know. [00:45:17] Speaker B: Is big Canada shy Twain for me. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Would Nickelback be on there? [00:45:21] Speaker B: Nickelback? I grew up listening to Nickelback all the time. But even more recent guys like Jade, like, I'm friends with him, but before I was friends with him, I looked up to him and thought he know, just like a superstar and he is, and he's great. And guys like Coulter Wall are from. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Coulter Wall is crazy. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Where in Canada is he from? [00:45:42] Speaker B: I believe it's Saskatchewan. So I think he's just out there on a ranch. Like, he's like a rancher. I don't think he really leaves there. I don't know. I don't really know if he's touring or anything, but he's just such a badass. I listen to a lot of the Joe Rogan podcasts and I've heard him say so many times he wants to get him out on the podcast, but he's like, you got to come to the ranch, man. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Got to fly Rogan in. [00:46:05] Speaker B: I mean, there's so much great talent in Canada, and it's cool that guys like Josh are letting that light shine down here in Nashville and in the States in country music. I think that's so cool, and it's inspiring, and it's know coming up in this time, I feel know. [00:46:22] Speaker A: I was told by Josh's band to ask you about the CCMAS. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:46:28] Speaker A: You all had a good night. [00:46:29] Speaker B: We had some good times, yeah. [00:46:30] Speaker A: What are the CCMAs like? Because we just had the CMAS here in Nashville. I'm guessing it's like a similar kind of thing. Just like a big reunion of everybody. [00:46:38] Speaker B: 100%. It feels very similar. I went to the awards actually this week for the CMAs, and it feels like that, except for just smaller. Everything's just a little more tight knit, a little smaller. The awards, they're televised. It's a big deal in Canada. Like, they're a thing, but just smaller. And it's like the same thing. Every label has a party or a brunch, and every agency is throwing parties, and you just basically go around and you just drink and eat and shoot the shit with people and reflect on the year and talk about what you're working on, and it's just such a cool time. I love the CCMA Awards. [00:47:16] Speaker A: So the CCMAs were wild this year. [00:47:18] Speaker B: They were, yeah, they're always. Yeah, it's hard not to drink a lot, and it makes you not want to drink for the weeks after, but, yeah, it's such a grind getting through those weeks because it's like four days long of just talking, drinking, and then you have to do showcases and play, and you're up at like eight to do a brunch and sing. It's impossible to get through, but it's so much fun. [00:47:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like, I did four days downtown this week. [00:47:45] Speaker B: How was that? [00:47:46] Speaker A: I haven't fucking done. I mean, I used to do seven days a week downtown when I first fucking moved here because I was bouncing and Broadway was what I knew. [00:47:52] Speaker B: You were hosting the Sony party downtown. [00:47:54] Speaker A: I was hosting the Sony. [00:47:55] Speaker B: How'd that all go? [00:47:55] Speaker A: It went really well, dude. It went really well. They seemed to be happy. I limited. I think my mom was there, and she flew down from New York and was all excited for it and her and friend Kathleen, and she was like, I'm proud of you. You only said fuck, like, twice. Because my thing at Live O because I said like, what the fuck is up live? That's part of our a little rough around the end. [00:48:16] Speaker B: You're raised Rowdy, man. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we're raised Rowdy. We're that group of guys that you see us come in the bar and you're like, fuck, yeah. The boys are like, it's a fun thing, even though I don't drink. So it went really well, and it was cool having folks that I've known forever, like Dylan Marlowe and Ella Langley and those guys that are now signed over at Sony to be a part of an event with them. It was really cool. But just four nights downtown on Broadway was fucking. It was a lot. [00:48:41] Speaker B: Serious. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Yeah, because I did. Did you hit a lot of the bars on this trip while you were. No, because I feel like now it's like business. [00:48:49] Speaker B: I haven't. Yeah, the last several trips, I haven't really gone out to Broadway. I mean, I went to Midtown and Red Door and stuff the OD time just to chat with some songwriter friends and stuff. But I'm not going down there to get wasted anymore, that's for sure. I kind of try to stick away from Broadway a little bit because it's chaotic. [00:49:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. You have your guys. I'll see. But when I was down there on Monday, we went to actually, Josh did a showcase thing at old Smokey. Like a little thing. So we went from that to Broadway, and my girlfriend had some friends visiting, and she said that they were at Kid Rocks. I was like, oh, fuck. It's way too early. It's way too early to be at Kid Rocks. Yeah. If you come to Nashville, love the Uncle Bob and love the establishment, but you got to be going towards, like, if this is sober, you got to be here getting towards blackout because Kid rocks is just so fucking loud. [00:49:44] Speaker B: It's like one of the best bars. [00:49:45] Speaker A: It's one of the best bars. Yeah, it is. But to me, to experience it, right, you got to be warmed up. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Fully enjoy Kid Rock's big ass honky tonk. [00:49:57] Speaker B: 100%. And it's of hard to get warmed up down on Broadway. Like, you can get warmed up pretty damn quick if you start at the top of the hill and start working your way down there. By the time you get there, you're probably good to go. [00:50:07] Speaker A: I love Roberts Western world. [00:50:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good one. [00:50:09] Speaker A: Roberts is cool. Especially. [00:50:11] Speaker B: Is that the one with the sand? Like, they have the Fry bologna sandwiches and chips or something? [00:50:16] Speaker A: The recession special. $6 Fry bologna sandwich, bag of chips, a moon pie and a PBR for $6. [00:50:24] Speaker B: That's amazing. I've heard from so many people that go there and get that. I haven't done it yet, but that's going to have to happen this week. [00:50:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll get the recession special. I'll just give my beer to Nikki T. Whenever we go to shows at the arena or like Preds games and stuff, that's the bar that we go to pregame at because they sell Bush and Miller high life and stuff for like 250. [00:50:43] Speaker B: Amazing. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Get a can of bush light for 250. [00:50:46] Speaker B: That's great. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Go a couple of doors down, it's like $8. [00:50:50] Speaker B: And then you get into the arena and it's like crazy. $20 or something. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Yeah, it's fucking nuts. Which of the Canadian of the two Canadian shows is more accurate? Letter Kenny or Trailer park boys? Do they both kind of depict what. [00:51:04] Speaker B: They'Re trying to depict really well, yeah, they're both hilarious. I would say. It's hard to say, but I mean, trailer Park Boys is based out on the East coast and I'm not too familiar what happens out there, but I grew up watching Trailer park boys. I think it's hilarious. And Letter Kenny is Jared Kiso, who's from Listell, Ontario, which is like 20 minutes from where I'm from. So I feel like that's Letter Kenny is like where I'm from for sure. [00:51:29] Speaker A: So you know all about the Djens from Upcountry and you know about the first episode when it's like the toughest man in Letter Kenny and squirrely Dan and deary throwing him the birthday party and everything. [00:51:43] Speaker B: Letter Kenny's very accurate. [00:51:44] Speaker A: The skids. The skids, the youth pastor. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah, they didn't just make that shit up. That's coming from somewhere. So yeah, that's definitely accurate. [00:51:55] Speaker A: That was my show when I first moved down here. Me and my buddies that I lived with, a group of guys that we all bounced together and we'd get home and I'd smoke and watch letter Kenny with the boys up to like 04:00 a.m. Just fucking watch. [00:52:06] Speaker B: It's so hard to turn it off, dude. So hard to turn it off. That show is brilliant. I think it might be coming to an end. I think they're releasing their last season right now. And that's it. [00:52:15] Speaker A: Maybe, yeah. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Have you seen Shoresy though? [00:52:16] Speaker A: I haven't seen Shores. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Shoresy. [00:52:18] Speaker A: I hear it's awesome. And those guys were in Jonesy Riley and Jonesy were in Nashville one time. [00:52:25] Speaker B: Were they? [00:52:25] Speaker A: My buddy took a selfie with him and sent in our group chat, and he was bouncing. He was like, oh, fuck, that's Riley and Jonesy. [00:52:31] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [00:52:31] Speaker A: And they were just. They were just bar hopping on Broadway. [00:52:34] Speaker B: They seem like beauties. I hope they're like their characters. [00:52:38] Speaker A: What is beauty? You got to tell me some of the beauties. Canadian lingo. So, like, what's a beauty? You just said these two beauty. [00:52:44] Speaker B: Well, I mean, beauties. I feel like that's sort of a hockey term, at least. That's kind of where it came from. For me, it just means they're badass. [00:52:56] Speaker A: So, like, top shelf. [00:52:57] Speaker B: They're good shit. Like, they're good shit. [00:52:59] Speaker A: Good shit. Okay, there we go. So that's the rich. [00:53:01] Speaker B: You get good shit. [00:53:02] Speaker A: Beauties means good shit. What are some other Canadian? [00:53:06] Speaker B: That's tough, because I know there's so many. There has to be so many, but it's going to be hard for me to come up with it on the fly. I feel like. [00:53:12] Speaker A: Like, stuff that you said, like hockey culture stuff. I remember one of the letter Kenny things, like Pitter patter. You have to get at her. Attilley. [00:53:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Like, Attilley's like a hockey fight. Yeah. [00:53:24] Speaker B: I don't even know. [00:53:25] Speaker A: I feel like there's just, like. [00:53:26] Speaker B: There's so many goofy Canadian ways of saying things, and I say them so often, and I catch myself all the time. One that I actually have. This isn't really goofy, but I've noticed, as a Canadian, I say tour. Like, I'm going on tour. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:41] Speaker B: Is it tour or is it tour? [00:53:43] Speaker A: I say tour. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:44] Speaker A: I say tour. But I'm from New York. I speak different than a lot of. [00:53:47] Speaker B: But I feel like everybody says tour, and I feel weird now saying tour. [00:53:50] Speaker A: But I think I've heard people say that, though. I've heard a lot of people say tour. Tour. That's so had. Have you made a lot of friends with locals, like, different songwriters that are, like, American born? [00:54:03] Speaker B: I've made a few, yeah. I mean, the thing is, when I'm coming down here, I'm not, like, going to the bars that often and meeting people. I'm just here. I have stuff booked. I'm basically just in the studio because I do all my recording down. I mean, Schmidtie. You know Schmidtie? [00:54:18] Speaker A: Yes. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So he was one of the first people that I met from down here, and he's such a great guy, and he's always invited me in, and we've written so many great songs. [00:54:25] Speaker A: Pick up where we left off. [00:54:27] Speaker B: I love such a banger. He's such a good writer, and he's. [00:54:30] Speaker A: Such a good fucking dude. [00:54:31] Speaker B: Such a nice guy. Such a good dude. And we always try to get together when I come down, but he's a busy guy. I'm a busy guy, so it's hard to make it work. But his whole crew that he rolls around with, they're all great guys. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Yeah, so that's like SJ McDonald. So SJ was one of my first friends that I met when I moved down here, because when I was bouncing on Broadway, she was, like, 19, gigging at the stage a few doors down. And she would play the Friday gig and I'd go over and we'd get her into the bars sometimes, but also just like, keep an eye. Like, if being a younger female, if somebody was fucking with her or whatever. [00:55:05] Speaker B: I don't think I've met SJ, but I've definitely. [00:55:08] Speaker A: Trent, Wayne, Matt, Mitch Kriego, Noah Hudson, like, Mia Mantia. That whole crew, they call themselves the Boys and Girls Club. We'll put them on around. Sometimes I think we've actually only done it once. And the time slot will say the Boys and Girls Club. And people will be messaging me, like, are you doing, like, charity thing? Like, what the fuck's going on? That's hilarious. And you all just come out and see, and then we get, like, four or five of them on stage at one time, and then we rotate them and they just take up the whole hour because they all co write with each other. [00:55:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:35] Speaker A: So it's just all them just playing along. And it's like four or five part harmonies on all the songs. [00:55:40] Speaker B: So talented, so good. Yeah, they're great writers. They're fun, too. They're good shit. [00:55:46] Speaker A: They're good people. Yeah, they're beauties. [00:55:48] Speaker B: They're beauties. There you go, man. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Getting it. [00:55:50] Speaker B: I'm fucking saying it. [00:55:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the thing. I'm going to say it to Nikki because we have. One of our things was premium. And then the premium thing got so far, my girlfriend hated me. We say it so much because when you make things a bit, you have to go all like, we have a hat that says premium. That we did as a collab hat with Crownhead cigars. Guys, my reason for asking about you knowing different folks from down here, something that Southerners or certain Southern dialects drive me up a fucking wall, dude. And one of the things that they'll say is they'll go, do what? I'll come up to you and be like, hey, man, what's your name? The guy be like, do what? Instead of just saying, hey, what'd you say, man? [00:56:29] Speaker B: I haven't heard that one yet. [00:56:30] Speaker A: They say, do what? [00:56:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's weird. [00:56:33] Speaker A: Literally so weird. Like you could be asking, hey, man, what way is the nearest gas station? Do what? It's just, do what? [00:56:40] Speaker B: After I will be like, what? I don't even know what that means. [00:56:42] Speaker A: But they say, do what? They say, piddling around. They say y'all, which I say y'all too. It just comes in. I think being in country music, you just naturally. [00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And the people you hang out with, it's hard to not pick up on some of that stuff. [00:56:56] Speaker A: I've only worked with guys from Alabama. Nikki T. Nikki T. Luckily, is from Pittsburgh, which is closer to where I'm from. But I was in the van with a bunch of dudes from Alabama talking straight that just kind of pick up Southern draw. So what have you got going on the rest of. So the shows are done for the year or do you got anything to close out this year? [00:57:16] Speaker B: Yeah, so I'm here for the rest of the week. I fly back Friday and then I start sort of a weekend run thing with Robin onalini. [00:57:23] Speaker A: Oh, fuck. Yeah, dude. [00:57:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So we're going. [00:57:25] Speaker A: Love Robin. [00:57:26] Speaker B: She's great. Yeah. Such good shit. We actually share management and we're doing a little tour tour across Ontario. So we're doing like six or seven shows, I believe. So that finishes out November for me. December's off. And then when does this come out? [00:57:46] Speaker A: This comes out this Friday. [00:57:47] Speaker B: This Friday? [00:57:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I record and we turn them around quick. [00:57:50] Speaker B: Sick. All right, then I won't say what I was going to say because I think it's getting announced the week after that, but I'm going on another tour beginning of next in Canada. In Canada, beginning of next year with a bigger American artist that I'm very excited about. [00:58:04] Speaker A: Dude, that's fucking. Yeah, you have to tell me off the mic. We'll keep it secret, bro, but what are some goals you got for next year? So this 2023 was, like you said, your biggest year to date. [00:58:15] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:58:16] Speaker A: You get engaged, like, big life stuff. You get engaged, the possibility of. Now you're talking about like, I'm going to get down here. We're figuring it out. 2023. Great fucking year. And then career wise, best year so far. And it's. I think personally, I'm not just saying that because you're wearing that premium raised rowdy hat right there. Looking like a beauty. [00:58:35] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Since that. And you're one of the homies. But it just seems like I had some friends that I brought out to Whiskey jam the other night, and they were like, dude, thank you. But also, fuck you. I can't stop listening to this Owen regaling kid. [00:58:48] Speaker B: Wow. [00:58:49] Speaker A: They're like, I can't stop listening. It's just so good. It's just stuck in their heads, which is great. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Thank you for being there. I appreciate coming out. [00:58:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, sweater song stuff that you didn't even play that night. Just going through Spotify, like, stuff just. They just love it. But what are some goals for you for next year? Sounds like a big tour to kick off the year. Lots of music. [00:59:08] Speaker B: Yeah. So we're playing a lot of festivals up in Canada. We're going on the mean goals as far as things that haven't been confirmed yet that I would love to happen is one get down here. Know, move down here, at least for half the year. I'd love to be down here for that and just release a bunch of music. We've released three singles since I signed this deal, so it's like very early days. [00:59:33] Speaker A: And which three are those? Because I'm going to. [00:59:34] Speaker B: We got. Love the sweater song. [00:59:39] Speaker A: Weekend, you, bro. That, to me, is like, that's going to get to where old dirt Roads is, because that song. [00:59:45] Speaker B: Thank you, man. [00:59:46] Speaker A: It's at 135,000 streams right now, but that's the one where it sticks in your head. And every guy has had that experience with a girl because life gets busy and you have that girl you see on the weekend, whether that's distance or just life. [00:59:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:00] Speaker A: That song is so fucking label. [01:00:01] Speaker B: Thank you, man. Weekend, you and older roads, those are the three we've released so far. And then the other two that I have up are just ones that I had recorded on my own put out, like, years ago prior to 2019. Yes, sir. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Smoke, man. [01:00:13] Speaker B: Yes, sir. So I went to school at OERT, which is an audio school in London, Ontario, and I learned how to record produce. [01:00:20] Speaker A: You could be a track. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:00:22] Speaker A: So you're a track guy. [01:00:23] Speaker B: I can. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Like, how often are you messing around with Pro Tools? [01:00:28] Speaker B: I used to all the time, but a little less now because I'm just doing other stuff. But I mean, yeah, I have Pro Tools and a little set up at home, and I just make all my own demos. [01:00:38] Speaker A: That's such a weapon. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [01:00:40] Speaker A: You don't know how big that is where there's so many guys and girls that have to outsource that because they don't know how to. I mean, for you, if you're outsourcing, it's because you got shit going on. But to have those skills, and then when you're in the studio, you're probably listening as a producer yourself. Whatever, guy. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Before I did this artist thing, I mean, I wanted to be a producer, and I went to school for audio. I was going out and applying for all these internships in Toronto at big studios the year after I graduated. And then literally, like a month into applying, COVID hit and all the studios shut down, and they weren't taking internships or nothing. So I was like, all right, I'm going to start writing songs more than I was and start putting shit out. And that song, smoke Band was my school project at OER. Third semester school project. And that's kind of the first song I released. And I actually put out an EP that I made in my bedroom during COVID that's gotten taken down now because it's not up to what we wanted it to sound like, basically. But there's a lot of songs on that that I really love that hopefully come back out someday and, yeah, that was sort of my goal, living where I lived. I didn't know any producers. I always loved messing around and garageband and logic and always had. I was drawn to audio and how that works. How do you make a song? So that was a big interest for me growing up, and I went to school, got that figured out, and I wanted to be a producer. It was nice because I didn't know anybody else and I didn't want to pay somebody so much money. If I can just make it happen. [01:02:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. [01:02:14] Speaker B: So hopefully someday down the road, there's an album, know, I just produce the whole thing, too. I think that's something. That's a goal for me someday, not anytime soon, because I love the producer. I'm working with Brad Hill here in Nashville. [01:02:27] Speaker A: He's amazing. That's a good guy to be working with. [01:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah, he's so good. He's such a talented guy and has all the connections, know great musicians, and just to be in a room, it's like magic watching these guys work. [01:02:39] Speaker A: How cool is it for you? You're probably geeking out at times with just being in a Nashville studio setting, and your goal was to be behind the board doing audio, and now it's your voice. But there's the hidden blessings of that shit show. That was 2020. Exactly. [01:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Because if it didn't happen. And if I got an internship, I probably would have been in a studio all day and had no time to focus more on the music thing for myself. [01:03:09] Speaker A: You would have been like, there's guys, like, the guy Josh is working with, Matt, Jerome. There's tons of Canadian or Joey Moy. Like, there's tons of Canadian producers that work on the worldwide scale. [01:03:20] Speaker B: That's right, man. That was my goal. Yeah, that was my goal. And hopefully someday I can get back and take on projects and actually dive into the production thing. Because one of my favorite things to do is be in the studio and create something that wasn't created like an hour ago. There's nothing better than that. So, yeah, that's definitely a goal of mine. Someday. [01:03:41] Speaker A: I love that smoke, man. Has almost 150,000 streams and it was a fucking college project. Yeah, that's a college project. There's that many people on Spotify alone that have listened to the thing. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [01:03:54] Speaker A: Cool. [01:03:54] Speaker B: It's crazy, that song. Actually, I won my graduation award for the Production award. They gave away like an award for production. There was like Live Sound Award and whatever. And that ₩1 the award. I was like, sick, man. That's great. [01:04:07] Speaker A: That is fun. Cool. [01:04:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:08] Speaker A: And a part of me of one that's been out for a while too. That's one. Like, we talk about songs that describe growing up in a small town in Canada. That's literally what I was listening to that on the mean, I've been listening to your shit a lot here lately. But especially like today when I was driving over here and a part of me came out, I'm like, this makes me think of where I'm from. Rockland County, New York. Outside of this town's a part of like, it's relatable shit. [01:04:36] Speaker B: It's a song about my hometown and the people in it. And that's all it is. And yeah, I say this all the time, but there's no way I would have kept writing and playing my shitty songs in front of people if there wasn't people there to support me and find the good in the things I was doing and just give me the confidence to want to keep doing. And everybody, literally everybody that is from my small town and surrounding towns is just so supportive. They're like pushing me. They just want me to succeed. So without them, without that being a part of who I am, I don't think I would be here in Nashville recording songs and about to put out a recOrd. So I owe a lot to my hometown and I love the people from it. [01:05:16] Speaker A: When's the record coming? [01:05:18] Speaker B: Oh, it's coming. It's definitely coming next year. Yeah. I don't know. I don't have a date, but we're cutting five more songs this week. We have them tracked. I got to cut vocals, and then we're done. We have probably, like, four or five in the bag, already mastered and ready to go. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Wow. [01:05:39] Speaker B: We got a lot of songs. We're just finding how we're going to roll them out and what it looks like. I think the plan is hopefully get a smaller project out in the spring and then keep doing some singles and hopefully have a full length thing end of next year. I'll say. Yeah. That's the pencil plan. Yes. Yeah, man, I'm so excited, dude. [01:06:00] Speaker A: You're making me want to get to Canada next summer for one of these festivals, one of these tours. I have a passport, but I've never fucking used it. Like, I have a passport. I think Nikki's got to renew his. He's actually been out of the country. I've never been out of the country, so it'd be really cool. [01:06:13] Speaker B: I would love to have you up sometime, man. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Bro, it'd be so cool. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Let's do, like, a raised rowdy event. [01:06:18] Speaker A: When we go out of town. We call it Rowdy on the. Rowdy on the road. And then I do a bit. It's called tried that in a small town. I don't know if you've seen them on Instagram or not. [01:06:29] Speaker B: I don't know if have. [01:06:30] Speaker A: So I go to small towns, and since I'm from New York, it's a play on the Aldean song, the controversial Aldeen song. And it's, hey, welcome back to tried that in a small town. I'm Matt Burl, and it's me eating at, like, a little barbecue joint. [01:06:42] Speaker B: So good. [01:06:43] Speaker A: Like a little hole in the wall. [01:06:44] Speaker B: You got to come to mild May. If you're doing rowdy on the road, like, come up to Canada. Come to my hometown of Mild May. There's a bar called Harley's. I was talking about it earlier. [01:06:52] Speaker A: That sounds so on brand. [01:06:53] Speaker B: Literally a corner bar. And the biggest honor of my career so far is I have a sandwich on the menu there. [01:07:00] Speaker A: You have, bro, a menu item. That's a big fucking deal. Fuck all the awards. You got a menu item? [01:07:05] Speaker B: I do. [01:07:07] Speaker A: Is it the Owen? [01:07:08] Speaker B: It's called the Corner Bar. A part of me, there's a line that goes something about a corner bar on the corner or a bar on the corner of Maine. I forget the lyric. I should know the lyrics to my own song. [01:07:22] Speaker A: But it was a while ago. [01:07:23] Speaker B: It was a while ago. Yeah. So I haven't tried it yet. I mean, Nick, the owner, just texted me and was like, hey, we're going to put sandwich on the menu for you. And I was like, sick. [01:07:32] Speaker A: Do you know what's in it? [01:07:34] Speaker B: I don't even know what. [01:07:34] Speaker A: I don't even know what's in it. [01:07:35] Speaker B: No. I think there's a sandwich called the Dream Witch on the menu. That's like, the best. You have to try that, too. And their sandwiches are just like, the employees and stuff will just make something and call it something. [01:07:47] Speaker A: Fuck you. [01:07:47] Speaker B: And that one was like, somebody, whoever made it had a dream and woke up the next day and was like, we're making this sandwich and it's like garlic bread as the bun. [01:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:55] Speaker B: And then cheese, bacon, and like, a grilled chicken smothered in, like, teriyaki sauce. It's so good, dude. It sounds so good. [01:08:03] Speaker A: Sounds really. [01:08:04] Speaker B: So try that in a small town. Come up to mile. Might go to Harley. [01:08:07] Speaker A: Yes, bro, I'm so fucking out. Then you're going to New York, you said in the next week? [01:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know if we can say anything about that. [01:08:15] Speaker A: Have you been to New York before? [01:08:17] Speaker B: Never been in New York. [01:08:18] Speaker A: Okay. [01:08:18] Speaker B: Never been in New York. [01:08:19] Speaker A: All right, so you were just talking. [01:08:20] Speaker B: I have a whole day in New York to do something. I'm getting there. My flight's like 07:00 a.m.. Tomorrow. And I'm going to get there like 830. So I have where are nothing to do until like 06:00 p.m. What airport. [01:08:32] Speaker A: Are you flying into? And God speak. [01:08:34] Speaker B: LaGuardia. [01:08:34] Speaker A: Find LaGuardia. Okay. Yeah. And where's the event? Where's the thing that you're going? [01:08:39] Speaker B: Downtown. [01:08:40] Speaker A: Okay, so New York is interesting. So it's like the city of all cities. There's nine and a half million people on like a 13 miles stretch, 14 miles stretch. It's fucking ridiculous. So I grew up in the suburbs outside of it, but I spent a lot of time going in there. So if you're a big sandwich guy, if you get a chance, there's a place called Cat's Deli. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Okay, let me just write this down. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Cats Deli. I'll text you all this shit. [01:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah, text me. Text me what? [01:09:04] Speaker A: I. Cat's Deli. It's like they filmed, like, Seinfeld episodes in. So it is like an old school Jewish deli, bro. The fucking sandwich. It's an expensive sandwich because fucking New York. Everything is stupid expensive. You're Canadian, though. Chick gets expensive up in Canada too, right? Yeah, expensive. Lately, the sandwich. It's like a pastrami sandwich, bro. It's like the size of your. Bigger than your head. Stupid, stupid. [01:09:28] Speaker B: Let's go. I'm getting. Is that right downtown in New York? [01:09:32] Speaker A: That is on in like. So New York's in a bunch of different little sections. So we'll map this out after the podcast. Map out. [01:09:40] Speaker B: Just text me. [01:09:40] Speaker A: And then there's John Zombliker. And then there's. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Heard of that. [01:09:44] Speaker A: John's on Bleaker Street. Fantastic. Got a high score on Dave Portnoy's. [01:09:48] Speaker B: Okay. That's where I've heard of that. Because I've watched all of those one bite reviews. [01:09:51] Speaker A: Yeah, all those one bite reviews. That's a really good one. [01:09:54] Speaker B: And then what did you give it for a score? [01:09:56] Speaker A: You know, it was like a nine something. I mean, John's on bleaker is great. John's on great. And then I think it's Joey's. I forget, Joe. I should know the full name of it. But there's so many. You have every culture in the fucking world, whether it's African culture, Middle Eastern, Asian, South American, French. [01:10:17] Speaker B: The food is good is what you're saying. [01:10:18] Speaker A: Every culture in the world is represented. [01:10:21] Speaker B: In this city in the best way possible. [01:10:24] Speaker A: However you look at it in the best way possible. [01:10:26] Speaker B: The food is probably just amazing, right? [01:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, you can go into the hood and you can get like chicken and waffles or like the best fucking chickens. Be careful going to the. You go to go to the Wop. It's a Chinese place, but it's like in a basement, like underneath. So it's like a big apartment building. [01:10:42] Speaker B: You got to knock like three times to get in. [01:10:44] Speaker A: It's like a little dungeon, bro. And it's the wohap. And it's some of the best fucking Chinese shit. There's a lot of. [01:10:50] Speaker B: Just send me a text of, like, places, favorite spots, and I'll map it out and I'll just hit them all. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And then. Are you there tomorrow night too? [01:10:56] Speaker B: Yep. [01:10:57] Speaker A: If you don't have night, are you going solo or you got people meeting you there? [01:11:01] Speaker B: My manager is meeting me. [01:11:02] Speaker A: Okay, cool. That's Eric. [01:11:04] Speaker B: Mark's coming with. [01:11:05] Speaker A: Mark's coming with you. Oh, sick. Okay, cool. Do you like comedy? [01:11:09] Speaker B: I love comedy. [01:11:10] Speaker A: Okay, so what you and Mark should do tomorrow night is you guys should go to the comedy seller. [01:11:15] Speaker B: Okay. [01:11:15] Speaker A: So the comedy seller. [01:11:16] Speaker B: I've heard of it. I listen to a lot of comedy. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Legendary spot. And you could probably get tickets. You could get them ahead of time, or you should be able to get them on a Monday where they do shows every night and you never know who the fuck is going to pop in there. So, like, Shane Gillis was there when I went out there with my girlfriend. [01:11:33] Speaker B: And just popped in. Like, he just did a spot. [01:11:35] Speaker A: He popped in and he did. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Unannounced. [01:11:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And he did like a 1015 minutes set. And it was all stuff that was used in his special that's on Netflix now. [01:11:44] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:11:45] Speaker A: Like, a Louis CK could pop in there, a Bill Burke could pop in there. Any comedian could just pop in and it's cool, and there's tons of restaurants around it. I'm excited to hear about your experience in New York City. [01:11:58] Speaker B: What's it like traffic wise? When I land, how long is it going to take me to Uber from LaGuardia to downtown? Is it going to be. Depends, because I feel like it's crazy there. Maybe I should just get on a bike or something. [01:12:12] Speaker A: And then I'm guessing you're, like, airbnbing it or you're like, I'm in a. [01:12:14] Speaker B: Hotel near the airport. [01:12:16] Speaker A: Oh, near LaGuardia. Let's roll out my Google Maps machine here real quick. So LaGuardia, they just redid it. So LaGuardia used to be a really shitty airport. [01:12:26] Speaker B: It's so nice now. [01:12:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it was built in World War II, and now it's fucking. [01:12:30] Speaker B: I had a layover there. One beauty. [01:12:34] Speaker A: It's mint beauty. It's a mint beauty. So, yeah, you're out in Queens, so you want to get to probably like 20 minutes, 30 minutes. [01:12:44] Speaker B: That'S not bad. [01:12:45] Speaker A: Maybe 40 minutes. [01:12:46] Speaker B: I got to plan this in accordance to, like, the one byte thinks when he says a nine, is there going to be a line around the block or is it kind of. [01:12:54] Speaker A: Do you have the one Byte app on your phone? [01:12:56] Speaker B: I did at one time. I think I still do. [01:12:58] Speaker A: Okay. If you have that. And also there's the dollar slice places on most of the corners in the city, there's little bodegas that are like, dollar slices. And those slices are still some of the best in the country. And it's like, you can get two slices and a Coke for, like, I cannot wait. I'm excited for you because to be from small town to go to New. [01:13:23] Speaker B: York City, dude, never been either. So it's. Yeah, it's going to be eye opening. [01:13:27] Speaker A: What's your favorite place that you've gotten a tour? And I know I've never been to Canada, so I won't be able to. [01:13:32] Speaker B: It's hard to say. The last run, it was crazy. I mean, Montreal is a city that is great. The fans, like, there's a bit of a language barrier when I'm trying to. A lot of my show is I set songs up with stories, and part of my show is just the story. So that was a little bit challenging. But if you have any sort of chanty moments in your show or anything like that, they love to chant there. Exactly. So they loved that. And by the end of our set in Montreal, it was so electric. People were, like, banging on the walls and people are yelling shit and beers flying in the air, and they're just partying. And then Tyler gets up there. First song, there's two girls fighting in the second row, throwing fists. And then the whole crowd's going, ole, ole, ole, ole. The whole thing for like a minute long. And Tyler's just up there like, what is happening? [01:14:26] Speaker A: What do I do? [01:14:27] Speaker B: Yeah, so they were partying. That was so fun. And then I had basically a hometown show in Kitchener, which is like an hour and a half from where I live. And it was just all people who were there, fans and family and friends, and it was so much fun. So between those two, I would say, fuck, yeah. [01:14:45] Speaker A: That's a good little list there. Where's your dream place to play? [01:14:52] Speaker B: Are we going big here? Or is this just like one that. [01:14:56] Speaker A: You think you can get to by the end of next year? And then one that's like, I want to see my name on that sign. [01:15:02] Speaker B: One I want to see my name on that sign, which I feel like is the same for a lot of artists, is like a place like Red Rocks. I mean, that would be insane. The first time I ever really knew what Red Rocks was was Eric Church's live album that he did there, and I fell in love with that. And then, obviously the Zach Bryan one now. And there's just so many cool artists that come through there. I feel like that's a legendary spot. The Granula Opry's one as well. Just to get to play that stage. [01:15:30] Speaker A: That I think could happen sooner than later. That will be, honestly, with way things are going right now, dude, I mean, I can't wait till you come to the States and you're fucking touring and we can talk about the different clubs because the circuit you're going to be on when your first runs through the States are the circuits that I know from touring on the tour manager side of things. [01:15:49] Speaker B: I cannot wait, man. [01:15:50] Speaker A: I've had some hellacious load ins and I've had some great load ins. I've had some load ins which you got a little spoiled on the Tyler's. That was a lot of like theaters, right? [01:16:00] Speaker B: It was mostly clubs. It was all clubs except for one theater in Winnipeg. And that was a beautiful. [01:16:06] Speaker A: Yeah, theater shows are cool too. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah, the production's great. Like the clubs are a bit dicey at times with load ins and loadouts. The one we went to, we could load in through the back door. It was great because the stage is right there. You load everything in, but you couldn't load out through the back door. You had to load it through the front doors, through the crowd. Yeah. [01:16:23] Speaker A: And is it one of those places that as soon as the show is over it switches to a DJ? [01:16:27] Speaker B: No, but the lobby is full of people still. People are at merch. People are fucking around. Whatever. You had to load everything out through the front door, which was hilarious because then you have to walk all the way back around the venue into the van. But I think it's because of like noise complaints or whatever. There's like apartments behind it. Yeah, there's some dicey things for sure. [01:16:45] Speaker A: Yeah, you'll see all kinds. What's on your rider right now? [01:16:49] Speaker B: We got veggie tray, fruit tray, Quesa. [01:16:53] Speaker A: You're so fucking wholesome, dude. [01:16:54] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [01:16:55] Speaker A: Fucking veggie tray. [01:16:56] Speaker B: We don't have much like case of Bud Light. We like to get one thing that's a little bougie that I do is everywhere we go. I like to say just some domestic. Not domestic like local craft brew. Like the best craft brew that's around. I want to try all different beers from different breweries and stuff. So that's something that we do. Other than that, just some cliff bars, a couple of snacks, chips. That's it. [01:17:21] Speaker A: That's not a bad rider, dude. Well yeah, brother. I appreciate you coming on this thing. I'm excited to have you at Live Oak tonight. Are you a cigar guy at all? Do you enjoy cigars? [01:17:33] Speaker B: Oh yeah, I like cigars. [01:17:34] Speaker A: You do? [01:17:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:35] Speaker A: Okay, well, if you have nothing to do, we can have a cigar. Let's go after this because we're sponsored by a cigar company. [01:17:41] Speaker B: Let's go. [01:17:41] Speaker A: So we have boxes, we have cigars. [01:17:43] Speaker B: Let's have a. [01:17:45] Speaker A: We'll. We'll do that because you have time to kill. [01:17:46] Speaker B: So I do. [01:17:47] Speaker A: We do as well. Well, brother, where can people go to find you on all the socials and stuff. [01:17:52] Speaker B: Find me at Owen Briggling music. Dick on Instagram. Wrigling's. R-I-E-G-L-I-N. [01:17:58] Speaker A: So it's wrigling, not wriggling. [01:17:59] Speaker B: It's wrigling. [01:18:00] Speaker A: Wrigling. I've been saying it wrong. [01:18:01] Speaker B: It's all good, man. It's rig like a truck and then ling. Like anything. Like anything. Like ring. Like ring a ling. It's like Riesling. Like the wine, but with a G. Rigling. Yes. [01:18:13] Speaker A: That's what I love about you Canadian folks. You guys are so fucking nice. I've been saying your name wrong for so long. [01:18:19] Speaker B: How have you been saying it? [01:18:19] Speaker A: I've been saying Riegling, wrieling. Regaling. [01:18:22] Speaker B: I get that all the time. That feels like. It's all right. [01:18:25] Speaker A: It's close enough. [01:18:26] Speaker B: Okay, close enough. I say wriggling. But if you say wrigling, it's all good, man. Same shingling. [01:18:30] Speaker A: Wriggling, wrigling. We'll figure it out. [01:18:32] Speaker B: Yes, siR. [01:18:33] Speaker A: We're going to go have a fucking cigar. Y'all be sure to check out our boy Owen wrigling. He's got some great music out. If you're up in Canada, be on the lookout. News coming of another tour soon, very soon, very soon. And if you're up in. Or I guess you'll already be in New York City. But stay tuned for when we have him on in the future. And we talk about his New York City excursion. Very excited about all that shit. But y'all be sure to check out his music and stream the hell out of it like we do here at raised Rowdy. Shout out, of course, to our friends, big friendly productions, Saxon Studios, our Boy Mitch Wallace with the digital marketing agency. And the boys over at Whaletail Media. We're going to go have a cigar for my boy Owen. I'm Matt Burrill. This has been outside the route. [01:19:21] Speaker B: Come on it. [01:19:37] Speaker A: I never been the kind for stand. [01:19:40] Speaker B: One place for too long I never been the best at this I love. [01:19:47] Speaker A: You to a girl I love only. [01:19:50] Speaker B: Got a couple tricks on my sleeve.