Julia Cole: Heartbreak, Sisterhood Country & the Stories Behind Love You To Death

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Come on. [00:00:15] Speaker A: This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill for Rage Rowdy podcast. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Outside the Round with me, Matt Brill. Today, a very special guest, a day one homie of mine, and one of the first people that I got to meet in Nashville back in 2018. She's got some new music out. Love you to death. Julia Cole. [00:00:37] Speaker C: So happy to be here. [00:00:38] Speaker A: So good to see you again. I feel like our paths. Like, we've seen each other a little bit in midtown, but not like we used to. I like to say BC before COVID [00:00:47] Speaker C: You know, it's so funny. Like, everything in my world now, if I don't have it scheduled, I don't see somebody. So I'm so thankful for things like this where I get to hang out with friends. It's like writers rounds where you get to play with some of your friends, too. We don't really get to. We're all traveling everywhere. We don't get to see each other unless we're on the same stage together. And it's like, that's how I feel with you, too. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So what you been up to? Life's been good. Congrats on this record. Freaking awesome. It's been so cool to know you from back in the day and see how your journey has just gone, like, seriously. [00:01:19] Speaker C: Well. Thank you. Yeah. It's been such an exciting year, and I'm. I'm so grateful for this record. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Yeah, we've got the. The raccoons running around. [00:01:30] Speaker C: That's so funny. Yeah, it's. It's a dream come true to have all these songs come together in the way that they have and know that the music's out and people are going to get to hopefully relate to it and heal from it and scream to it and lean on it. And that's what gives me kind of the most purpose, I think, is whenever the music finally can go out there and do its job. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And like I said, I've gotten to know you for a long time now, and it's. It's like, it takes time for an artist to figure out exactly what they want to say. And I feel like you're in the era where you are, you know exactly what you want to say to your fans, what you want to say to the world. You're writing the songs that you want to write, that you want to cut, and you. It takes time. So talk about kind of that journey because you've been putting out music for a while now. [00:02:19] Speaker C: You're you're so right. And I think my journey is slightly different than maybe other artists that people knows Journey. Because I've been independent the whole time. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:27] Speaker C: And so part of the sounds development has been based on me not having enough money to do it the way I wanted to do it. Like, originally, some of the records we had to find a way around hiring a full band or hiring this type of mixing engineer, mastering engineer, whatever it was, because I just didn't have the money to do it. And every record that I put out, that got the streams that it got paid for the next thing and paid for the next thing. And this record is the first project where I'm like, we pulled out all the stops we have. I mean, it's exactly what I envisioned it being from the get go. And the message, you're right. It's so much more dialed in now because I. I used to not understand necessarily that writing the songs was therapy for me, but releasing the songs and performing the songs is meant to be therapy for everybody else. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:18] Speaker C: And once I started meeting people at the shows I was playing and getting the messages back from people on some of the singles that I'd released, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is important. You know, what we're doing here. It's. It can be life changing and not my life, other people's lives. And that's why with this project, I feel like we're finally put. Like this feels like such a symbiotic relationship with the Cole team fans. [00:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:46] Speaker C: I. I hope that they realize how thankful I am for them because they're why this project exists. But I made it for them. [00:03:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And you've gotten to learn. You talk about the. The live show and connecting with fans you've been on tour with. To me, the best artist that does that because he turns his concerts into sermons in a way. [00:04:05] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. I know. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Being on the road with Jelly Roll. We gotta talk about that. [00:04:09] Speaker C: Literally the coolest thing ever. He's so genuine. He's so smart. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:15] Speaker C: And he's so cool. I mean, he just. He's overcome 1 million things in his life. So he can speak to everything with this. This testimony that you cannot help but believe because it's. It's different than someone who hasn't really lived it. And he's one of the people who pulled me aside and at one point was like, you know, stay independent for as long as you can. [00:04:40] Speaker A: I was just gonna say he was one of, like, when I think of independent artists in this town, the grinded. And like you said, like you put out a song, hope it makes enough to do the next song, and it just goes. I think of Jelly. I think of Muscadine bloodline. I think of folks like that. So to have a. Have a friendship with a guy like Jelly and have a guy like that take you under his wing has to be huge. [00:05:01] Speaker C: I feel very blessed. And it's. This town is so magical because I really believe if, if I lived anywhere else, I wouldn't think it was possible to do any of this. But you're in this town where everywhere you look, you're watching dreams come true. [00:05:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:20] Speaker C: And it looks hard. I mean, there's a lot of people who it isn't happening for at the same time. But this is the only place I've ever been where you just consistently see dreams coming true everywhere. And people who worked really hard and went through really tough things and then saw the light at the end of the tunnel. It's beautiful. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Amen to that. And your journey of coming out here, you came out here as a, as a collegiate athlete to start, right. Was music, Was music a thing at that time or. Tell me how you pivot from smacking and spiking volleyballs to putting out country songs. [00:05:55] Speaker C: Let me tell you how we pivoted the good old US of A singing the national anthem. That is really truly what changed everything. I thought I was going to Vandy to write books. I thought I was going to major in creative writing. I wrote a 500 page book in high school. I wanted to be an author. [00:06:11] Speaker A: That makes a lot of sense with being a songwriter. [00:06:14] Speaker C: God has a funny way. He really does all the pieces together however he sees fit. And I mean, I just watched him place me on Music Row in a dorm literally across the street from publishing companies, and then put me in sports where my coaches were encouraging me to sing, do the national anthem and then run on the court and then get to go perform for the NFL and the MLB and NASA and NASCAR and realize that I could sing in front of 75,000 people and not be nervous. All those pieces had to fall together for me to then believe that there was any inkling of possibility that I could do music as a career. It didn't seem possible or real. [00:06:58] Speaker A: When did you see it start working where you're like, okay, I can do this thing? [00:07:02] Speaker C: I really do think it was just being in Nashville. I remember when I was, I guess maybe a freshman at Vanderbilt or whatever, I was interning over it. I met some folks in the Music industry who came to Vandy and did, like, a panel and spoke at some class or something. And I was sort of interning for Bobby Reimer and Chris Oglesby at this publishing company. [00:07:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:24] Speaker C: And I just remember. And one of the first things they had me do as an intern was I had to go take this, like, golden record, this gold record plaque to Carrie Underwood's management office. And they could tell. They could see the, like, sparkles in my eyes of like, oh, my gosh, it's a Carrie Underwood's thing. And I'm holding it. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:43] Speaker C: And they were like, you see that couch right there? You see that spot on the floor? That's where she wrote the song. It was right there. And they could tell I was just eating it up. Like, this is the most magical room I've ever been in my whole life. And I think when you're in an environment where you just are told things are possible, you start to believe it. Like, I obviously was a little delusional, but it's because I got placed in the one city on earth where it's like, this is where it happens. So it's not impossible. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Now talking about the record, because it is awesome. And I'm so glad that it's out there. And I'm so proud to see what you're doing having. No. Having known you back in the Broadway days, like, when we were out there, because that was back. Going back to that time, that was like, when the. The big bars that are like, the spots now, like, Whiskey Row had just opened. Aldean's Aldean said, just remember when Luke Bryan, like, shut down the road for his bar opening. Like, that was before Kid Rocks open like, OG Broadway. But your songwriting is so bold. It's so witt. Like, and it really. I've seen you kind of coin the term of, like, that sisterhood country and, like, songs that the girls and the guys can both relate to. So talk about kind of how your songwriting's evolved and talk about naming the project what you did. [00:09:00] Speaker C: My music is sisterhood country, because it's something you can lean on in whatever part of your life you're in. [00:09:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:11] Speaker C: If you need a shoulder to cry on, here's the album. If you need something to scream to, here's the album. And that's what my sisters have always been for me. And I love that, you know, this can include both guys and girls. I'm just. I'm their sister. Like, I can be that. My music can be that shoulder to lean on. And I've been watching it happen. It's this. This really cool community that started this family that just keeps growing and growing. And it. I think, especially because I've been independent, it feels so symbiotic that, like, we really do need each other. [00:09:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:47] Speaker C: That the album is written in from such a place of love for them. I'm like, I hope that these songs can help people heal through the pain that they're going through. If it's anything like what I went through, I hope it can help people avoid some of the mistakes I made. You know, there's. There are definitely some songs in there that are like, listen, if these are the red flags you're seeing run, what would. [00:10:13] Speaker A: What would be. What would be. Some of those from the album that really stand out is like, your Red Flag songs. [00:10:19] Speaker C: What Could Go Wrong is definitely the Red Flag song. It's like, listen, I can't tell you what to do. And this is the conversation that so, like, my sisters, my best friends, people around me tried to have with me. I can't tell you what to do, but, like, let me just remind you of all of these things that you've said have been terrible, but, like, do what you want to do, and that's all you can do. You know, everyone has to make their own decisions. But maybe that song is going to help somebody think back at, what are all of the reasons why I left the first time? Maybe I shouldn't go back to my ex or whatever. And then, you know, at my wedding, like, that song is. It is for the girls. Like, this one is about those women who pick you up off the floor. It could be your mom, it could be your best friend, could be your sisters, but those women who pick you up off the floor when you need it the most. And I've realized, like, I know who all the girls are going to be at my wedding. I just have no idea who the groom's going to be. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:12] Speaker C: And so, you know, if. If whoever I date in the future doesn't get along with those girls I have, I'm going to use that as my, like, my litmus test. Like, this isn't right then. Because I know these women love me and I love them. [00:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah. A song that I've been cranking up personally, day late and a buck short. Like, you talk about songs that you can. That people can really be cruising down the road and. And scream to. And that has to be such a fun song to play live. [00:11:38] Speaker C: There is no way to describe how fun this song is to play live. Like, you nailed it. I just got back from Stagecoach and we just played three stages there and everybody was just screaming it. And it's fun cuz the. The guys do too. I feel like the girls love it because it's like, you know, the play on words here. It's a daylight in a buck short. Obviously that usually just means like a person who's constantly behind on things or just like it's never working out for them. Always a day late in a buck short. But I was like, what if we flip this and it's about a girl being cheated on and the way she finds out is because the man is a day late coming home from a hunting trip and there's no buck in the truck bed. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah. There's no deer. What. What the hell were you doing? [00:12:20] Speaker C: Yeah, what were you doing? And then you're. He left his gun at home too. Like this idiot. Like, he really thought he pulled a fast one. He packed lucches to go haunting. Like the whole song is. There's so many puns in it and it's like, it's a lot of my music. I try to throw humor around some of the, like, most heartbreaking things that happen. And obviously being cheating on and your world blowing up is the worst. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:48] Speaker C: But if you can find a way to take back your power, take back your confidence, take back your strength after it and be like, I'm better off without this person afterwards, then at least that's the. The piece of it you can control. And so I. I think a lot of the songs on the album, I try to acknowledge the things that are hard that I've had to go through and had to heal through, but also get us to a place of healing afterwards. Like there is light at the end of the tunnel and there has to be. Like you've got to figure out a way to get through it. [00:13:20] Speaker A: I think of like the 2000s country songs, like the Brad Paisley I'm going to miss her or the Luke Bryan all my. All my friends say, you know where it's like when you walk and I sent it, you know, like it's taking. Like this breakup sucks. I hate seeing this person, but I'm going to make the most of the situation and have a good time, you know, or even when it rains, it pours. Like there's so that's been such a theme within country music. And I feel like we haven't seen that in a while. So I love that you're doing that. [00:13:49] Speaker C: It's so funny. Like, even my mom like a song like when it rains, it pours. The ex future mother in law. Like, my mom will joke about that all the time and I'm like, mom, it's. I love country music because it's all just about real, real life and real emotions. And I think that I grew up in, you know, north of Houston in Spring, Texas, and country music was everywhere. But when I was little, I didn't necessarily understand lyrics that much because I hadn't gone through anything that trying yet, especially not love or anything like that. But as I've gotten older and I've just realized, like, the focus of our genre is truly the. The meaning of the lyrics. Like, yes, the production is so important. Like, we love our instrumentalists, we love our producers, but the words are so important to this genre in a way that I don't think is the same in a lot of other genres. They lean way more on a production element or something that's just hooky, you know, whatever that is. But, like, country music's about what real life is. It's about family and faith and hardship and deciding to choose that your life can have happiness in it, even when you're going through those things. [00:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. And we got to talk about Stagecoach. You said you played three stages out there, so you were busy. So. I go to a lot of festivals. I'm actually going to be flying into Houston airport tomorrow. [00:15:21] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:15:23] Speaker A: We're doing a festival in Belleville, Texas, of all places. [00:15:26] Speaker C: That's awesome. [00:15:27] Speaker A: But I've never been the stage coach. What's it like out there? [00:15:30] Speaker C: Well, I got about a pound of dust in my lungs right now, and sand. [00:15:34] Speaker A: I see everybody wears the bandanas. [00:15:36] Speaker C: The wind storms. The sandstorms canceled the festival. It was literally crazy. I. Two of my shows were Friday and then one was Sunday, and this. The cancellation was Saturday. [00:15:46] Speaker A: So you were just there. [00:15:48] Speaker C: God was looking out. He was like. The only really sad thing is my parents came too, and their favorite band in the world is Journey. And Journey was supposed to play on Saturday. Like, that's the first concert I ever went to was Journey with my parents. And my. My parents were heartbroken. I mean, like, you could visibly see it in their body language. They were so sad. So that was like the worst part about, you know, the sandstorms. But the shows I got to play were insane. It was so awesome. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's wild that you can go to a place like Southern California and they just love country music. [00:16:22] Speaker C: I didn't realize how many places I mean, I grew up in, you know, My town in Texas. And I had no idea that my perspective of the rest of the country was so wrong and off because I'd never gone anywhere. Really. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:38] Speaker C: And whenever I finally started touring and playing shows and I realized that, like, there's tons of farmers and all of that in upstate New York and in California and in all these places that you. I never thought were country until I got to go there. And I'm like, country's everywhere. [00:16:55] Speaker A: It really is. [00:16:55] Speaker C: It's like, it's. And it's also because country music's about life and about family and about the real things that happen. So like, even in the places where they don't necessarily, like Miami or whatever, where they don't necessarily listen to country music, the lyrics still apply to what's happening in their life. You know, it's crazy when you. When you figure out how real the lyrics are. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's real life stuff. And everybody lives a life, so there's something that anybody can relate to. [00:17:24] Speaker C: Well, and. And in a different way than other genres. Like in like rap, for example, everything's about I did it myself and like, I'm flying on a jet with these crazy diamonds everywhere and like iced out. And that's not like relatable. Like, most people will never have like an iced out grill. [00:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:43] Speaker C: And like fly on a pj. But country music's like the opposite of that. It's like, I gonna choose to be happy even with this small home that I have, because at least it's full of love, or I'm gonna go key my boyfriend's truck. But guess what? Everybody has a boyfriend that they want to key his truck. [00:18:05] Speaker A: So yes, that is very true. And now you got the. The love you to death tour kicking off and you're going to be going to a bunch of different places. So talk about how important touring has been for you in the past few years. Like, you've gotten to go all over the place and gotten to go out there with some. With some incredible folks like Jelly, like John Party, like a bunch of different people. How cool is it to be doing a headlining tour? [00:18:30] Speaker C: It's incredible. I'm so excited. I mean, as cool as it is to be doing stuff like, I mean, I played all. All these first time arenas for me this year, and I got to play in the O2 in London with like 20,000 people holding their lighters up. And right before Keith Urban went on, I mean, there's. There's magical moments like that or playing the grand Ole Opry, playing there again, it's like, this is. Every single one of these shows is such a pinch me moment. But the magic about a headline tour is that every person in that room came to sing the songs that are on the album that you wrote. And energy is just different. It's like, instead of it being a show where you're, like, making new fans, you're, like, giving people who you already have a relationship with this gift that you want to give them because you love them back. It's like, we get to hang out. It feels a lot more like I'm hanging out with my family of people who we already know each other because we've been following each other and we have stuff to talk about, you know, we already know each other. That's why I'm really excited for this tour. [00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And talk about how important the cold team has been for you, because I love that you've coined that coin, that term. [00:19:42] Speaker C: And my dad coined it, actually. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Oh, shout out to dad. [00:19:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Big Steve. He. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Shout out big Steve. [00:19:48] Speaker C: Yeah. If you want to know about Big Steve, just listen to Daddy daughter dance on the record. But he. He called our family the Cole team. When we were growing up, we all played sports our entire lives, and it's definitely the mentality that we were raised with, and it was like, no matter what's going on, we have each other's back. And that's the point of the Cole team. And that's how I feel about this fan base. It's so symbiotic, and I feel like we have each other's back. And people ask me sometimes, like, why maybe I don't get nervous in music. And I'm like, no one's hoping for you to lose. I played sports my whole life where half the people in the room, no [00:20:25] Speaker A: one's rooting against you. [00:20:26] Speaker C: I want you to lose. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:28] Speaker C: This is the first time in my life I get to be somewhere where everyone just wants to have a good time. This is, like, good energy only here. And we'll hear, heal through stuff and whatever. But, like, it's the first time since doing whatever 10,000 hours of sports that I was like, oh, my gosh, I get to be here. And, like, nobody's trying to make me lose today. It's interesting. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think there's such a. You see so many guys and girls that are doing this, that are doing the music thing that have come from the sport background, and I think having that drive to really want to succeed at something, something like growing up as an athlete, I think translates really well. And then going on the road, it's like show day is game day. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Yes, it is. And it's also, you know, you've got all the practices and they're not glamorous, and there's all the prep work and all of that. And you have to handle wins and handle losses and you have to be a team player and also a leader and perform under pressure. You know, like, there are some times where it isn't necessarily an easy thing. Like one of the performances, I remember I was opening for Dierks Bentley and he invited me to come up and do a duet. And he's like, do you know the words to this song? And I'm like, yeah, of course. No, I didn't know the words. Guess what I went and did? I went and memorized the words as fast as I could. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:40] Speaker C: During the first half of his set. And then went out to do the song and was just like. It was obviously a little nerve wracking, but it was like, everybody wants this to work. Like, nobody's hoping that I mess it up. So there's like a difference there. But performing under pressure, that's the same as being on the the line and having to make a game point serve. And if you miss the serve in your volleyball game, your whole team loses and it's your fault. If you make it, you're the champions. You know what I mean? It's like there's so much pressure on this one little moment, this one little action. And it's a lot of things from athletics have made me into the artist I am today, for sure. [00:22:25] Speaker A: That's awesome. So you're so busy with everything going on. What do you like doing in your downtime right now? [00:22:30] Speaker C: Sleep. [00:22:32] Speaker B: Sleep. [00:22:34] Speaker C: Doesn't happen often. No, no. I. I spend a lot of time with my family. Like, any free time I have, I'm pretty much. I'm still catching a flight. I'm going to see my older sister with my little baby nephew, or I'm going to see my little sister who's a pro runner. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Nice. [00:22:49] Speaker C: Or I' to see my parents and grandparents and cousins who all still live in the same area. So usually when I go down there, I get to see a lot more of my family all the same time. In Texas, I really do spend most of my free time, like, going to catch up with the people I love because I. I spend a lot of time on the road. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:11] Speaker C: Without them. [00:23:12] Speaker A: Yeah. It's important to get outside of the Nashville bubble. That's something that I've struggled with a [00:23:16] Speaker C: lot I feel like a tourist here. I don't know anything about Nashville anymore. [00:23:19] Speaker A: Because you've just been run, like, just running so much or just spending so much free time outside. [00:23:24] Speaker C: I've been running so much, but also this town is changing so much. [00:23:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:29] Speaker C: Every day it's like I'm watching posts go that'll come through my for you page of all these restaurants and bars and things I've never even heard of, much less gone to. And I'm like, it's a long list. It's not like, oh, there's like, a couple spots I haven't. It's like a long. It's a hundred places I haven't been yet that are, like, cool and, like, the trending new spots. I'm like, I'm a tourist here. I lived here forever, and I'm a tourist. It's wild. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, east is so different. The gulch is so different. Midtown's a whole different ball game now. Broadway is, like, doubled. [00:24:02] Speaker C: Like, there's some little Nashville yards. New thing that I've heard of that I've never been to. But I'm like, everyone's raving about it. I'm like, I have to be a tourist and go do a little drive around, I guess. I don't know. [00:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I was out in 12 south last weekend with my. With my girlfriend, some of her friends, and I was like, I can't believe I've lived here for eight years. And all these. It's just such a different ball game. 100%, you know, it's wild. It's wild. So as far as places that you've gotten to go and tour, what have been some of your favorites? Because Europe's got to be on there. You seem like a girl that likes to travel, so going overseas has to be cool. [00:24:41] Speaker C: I love to travel. I've been. I've been to over 30 countries. [00:24:45] Speaker A: 30. [00:24:45] Speaker C: And I've. And I've never left the country until after high school. So, like, all these happen fast. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Over the 30s. Crazy. [00:24:53] Speaker C: Yeah. I've been. I'm on the go, and I have more booked that, like, I'm about to go to. I have a show in Denmark that I've. I've never been to Denmark. I've never been to Greece. I have a show in Greece booked. So, like, a lot of these places that I never thought country music would bring me. I sang the American national anthem in Dubai one time. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Really? [00:25:12] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like, how on earth if that was not on my bingo card. [00:25:17] Speaker A: No, like, Dubai what event was that for? [00:25:21] Speaker C: The first ever baseball game in the Middle East. Baseball United. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Wow. [00:25:26] Speaker C: It was incredible. Opera pojos was there. I mean, it was like. It was actually huge. It was a bunch of like, cricket fans that they're. They're starting baseball over there. And so they had. I did the American national anthem. Someone from over there did the UAE national anthem. And then I also got to sing one of my songs during the seventh inning stretch. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:25:46] Speaker C: It was broadcast on like 200 countries. It was like so interesting to me that like this genre and this music world could bring me somewhere that I would have never dreamed of going before. [00:26:03] Speaker A: Yeah. That is crazy. There's a lot of people that haven't been to 30 states. [00:26:07] Speaker C: I, I only have two states to cross off left. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Really? Is it Hawaii and Alaska or. [00:26:12] Speaker C: No, it's Hawaii and Montana. [00:26:16] Speaker A: Montana, okay. Because I've got. [00:26:18] Speaker C: Everywhere else I've played. Actually, I've played twice in Alaska. [00:26:21] Speaker A: Really? That's crazy. And you're. And this album's gonna take you to. So it probably will take you to Hawaii and Montana. [00:26:29] Speaker C: It won't take me. I still won't have those. Listen, anybody out there want to book me in Hawaii or Montana? I got two states left now. This, this tour is going to take me to a bunch of places that I've already been to and love for the most part. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Well, I'm saying the, the where this album is going to take you in. Maybe not this year. [00:26:46] Speaker C: You think they have some, some daylight in a buck short people in. In Hawaii? [00:26:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. Absolutely. [00:26:52] Speaker C: It's. I've heard it's so beautiful and I've gotten to play in like, you know, I did a show in Christchurch, New Zealand one time. I've played all over Australia. [00:27:02] Speaker A: I'm trying to think, have you done one of the. Have you done one of the shoey things? [00:27:06] Speaker C: We. We. The real shoey. No, but so my. One of my managers is from Australia and we have these little boot shot glasses and so we call our shots out of the boot shot glasses. Shoes. [00:27:18] Speaker A: Okay. They're like little mini shoes. Little mini shoes, like baby size. [00:27:21] Speaker C: You know, it's funny, I couldn't do a shoey when I was over there because I didn't have boots to spare. Like, I had to wear the boots. [00:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess you full it, fill [00:27:30] Speaker C: it with beer, and then you have to pack it and check it and travel with it. You realize how bad everything's gonna smell. [00:27:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's a logistical night. [00:27:38] Speaker C: So I was like, you Know what? Next time I will have to just it put. Have like a spare boot in every. That I can just throw away or something. [00:27:46] Speaker A: A dedicated shoe that's like you maybe [00:27:49] Speaker C: tie it in a bag and just. I don't know how to. I don't know how to handle it. [00:27:52] Speaker A: But you could sell it at the merch table. [00:27:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Traveling with the shoe. Who wants this? That's so funny. [00:27:58] Speaker A: I'm sure you do like the meet and greet stuff at shows too, right? [00:28:01] Speaker C: My favorite part. My favorite part. [00:28:03] Speaker A: What have been some of your favorite interactions that you've had with fans? Because like you said, your music's there for people that need it. And this album is exactly that. And I'm sure that the. You're going to get all kinds of stories where it's this song helped me with this or I had this X like this. Or I'm here with my. My sisterhood. [00:28:21] Speaker C: You know, whenever they come up to me in a line, they all go, hey, sis. Hey, sis, what's up? Says, like, I'm so happy, you know, you came to play here. And I feel like this, like, sisterhood is really cool because it's not just between them and me, but they are becoming friends with each other. [00:28:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:37] Speaker C: Friendship bracelets are being made and passed. [00:28:39] Speaker A: Oh, you got the friendship bracelet fans. Okay. [00:28:42] Speaker C: Cute. And I love it. Like, honestly, there are a lot of really young fans and they are so cute. And it's so funny to me when they're screaming one of these breakup songs at the top of their lungs. I'm like, you're nine. Who hurt you? Like, why are you screaming Diamondback? Like, oh, it's so cute. But yeah, no, it's. It's my favorite part of the show for sure. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think that's again, something that country music does that other genres don't, is it's being accessible to your fans and making it feel like it's a group chat when you guys are all together. [00:29:16] Speaker C: Well, and as much as I want to, like, say, yeah, it's just. It's so much on the artist because we have to sit there and you spend sometimes hours after the show making sure you get through the whole line. But our community is so helpful for us. Think about all the other people who have to be a part of it. The venue has to stay open later. The security guards have to work for two more hours. Your merch team and your, like, everybody has to sit there for the whole thing. So it's really the genre as a whole that everyone's like, Agreed. Hey, we love the fans, so we're willing to give this extra time and effort at the end as a whole group. It's. It's. It's a big. It's really cool. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Yeah. What was growing up, or when you. Who were some country artists that you really looked up to? Like, you talk about that Carrie Underwood moment of delivering a gold plaque, which is just an intern task, but seems like it had a pretty big effect [00:30:09] Speaker C: on you if you've never even seen a gold record in your whole life. [00:30:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:13] Speaker C: And you're like, this is gonna go in my. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:16] Speaker C: Like, I get to take this to Carrie Underwood. She's gonna touch this thing that I'm holding. Yeah. That's so cool. And obviously love her. Love Miranda. Loved. I grew up screaming Redneck woman and Gretchen Wilson songs and Tim McGraw rascal flats. Just. I really love a vocalist, and I. I think that that's probably because lyrics didn't mean as much to me when I was, like, you know, a little kid just discovering music because I just wanted to scream along to something. And I remember even Kelly Clarkson, like, I would sit on my bedroom floor and just, like, sing along to her songs over and over again, trying to sing what she's saying, how she sang it. And Journey, My parents raised us on Journey, and Steve Perry is, like, the most insane vocalist of all time. So I definitely grew up on that being one of the main things I loved. And then as I. As I started to learn about songwriting in Nashville, that's when I started to dive way more into who are the best, like, storytellers. And now that's the only thing I care about in songs and lyrics. It's like, oh, when someone paints a picture for you and doesn't waste any of the space of the song and just makes you feel something. [00:31:35] Speaker A: There's no filler. [00:31:36] Speaker C: Oh, it's just like, I just have such a respect for it, and I know how hard it is to do so. Like, whenever I hear a song like that, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I wish I had written that, but I'm so happy it exists. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Yeah. What advice would you have for a young guy or a young girl coming up right now? Because you've. The independent road is a long one, but to me, it almost feels more rewarding because it's your. You're running your business here, and you're bringing on team members as it grows. But what advice do you have to. That. That guy or girl? That's kind of where you were a few years back. [00:32:09] Speaker C: I Think the biggest piece of advice I would have is focus on your craft and focus on the art before you start to focus on marketing and fame or success. None of that stuff matters if you don't have good art. And if you make songs that are truly honest and well thought out and real life, that's when you don't even have to worry about the marketing. It does it itself. If you spend your time making your craft your focus, I promise the journey will be easier. And that's so much easier said than done, because you can't have any perspective on what a great song is yet. But the more and more you write, you will look back at the songs you wrote two years ago and you will be like, oh, my gosh, I really thought I did something there. And that is terrible. And it's like, it's. Every songwriter I've ever met will say that. So my biggest advice is, like, write songs for two years at least, because I promise you, you're gonna look back at those first songs and you're gonna be so happy that you're giving yourself a better starting point. After writing a thousand songs or whatever it is and getting some of the bad out and learning what is going to resonate more, and you can still go out and play writers rounds and do and still learn that. [00:33:39] Speaker A: I think. I think that's a big part of it, is finding your crew of guys and girls that you want to write with. And I feel like you've done that a lot over the past few years. You know, you. [00:33:49] Speaker C: You definitely find the people who you start to just connect with and it feels easy with. And then it becomes just faster. Because when you're in the room with someone who already knows how your voicing sounds, the things that they throw out as recommendations are so much more in tune with a yes from you than if you're writing for the first time with somebody, which is still magical. And sometimes the first time, right. Is like lightning in a bottle. But it's like, this person's gonna throw out things that they already kind of know are in your wheelhouse because you've had. You've given that language exchange back, and you'll be. [00:34:25] Speaker A: I feel like you'll be more vulnerable with that guy or girl because they [00:34:29] Speaker C: know, I don't know what happened to me, but I don't care anymore. Like, any. Right? [00:34:33] Speaker A: You just lay it all out there, out there. [00:34:35] Speaker C: Like, I'll get people who are like, well, thank you for being so honest about that. And I'm like, oh, God, did I Over share. [00:34:40] Speaker A: Well, I feel like there's no such thing as over sharing because it's that authenticity. And like you said, that's. It's the lyrics and the message of the song is what makes country music so special. So if you're open and honest with the other folks in the room, like, [00:34:54] Speaker C: yeah, she's mentally unstable, but man, the lyrics are smacking. [00:34:58] Speaker A: And I think it's also being there for your co writers if they're going through something and you're writing something. Something for them too. [00:35:04] Speaker C: The best songs definitely do come when you all in the room feeling it. Like Daddy Daughter Dance is one of the songs where Rachel Womack and I were both just crying. We wrote so many verses that didn't make the cut because you can only have so many verses in a song. And we just both were truly reminiscing on our childhoods with our. With our dads and what life would have looked like without them and just a million other things. And Daylight in a Buck Short with Bonnie and Andrew Bloom. Like, we had so much fun during that. Right. It genuinely felt like kind of like this interview. Like it was like we get to just hang out with our friends. [00:35:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:41] Speaker C: You also be working. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Yeah. You're catching up with a homie and doing cool shit and creating. That's what this whole thing is, is just finding homies and making cool stuff together. Like finding like minded people and magic will happen. [00:35:54] Speaker C: And I think that's. It's so interesting. People think that like fame or success or money is what drives the majority of songwriters and or artists or whatever. And if someone told me today you have to pick songwriting or performing, you can only do one for the rest of your life is the easiest decision on earth. I'd pick songwriting. Like, I love meeting people, I love doing the performing. I love all that. But there is just the magic of creating this piece of art that did not exist before y' all sat down in the room and can never be erased again. It doesn't matter if there's some recording or not. The song can never be erased. It's stuck in your head. It exists now. It's so magical. I still get shocked by it. I've been doing it forever and I'm like, we wrote this song in four hours today. Can you all believe we did that? It's like, it's still so cool to me. Yeah. [00:36:50] Speaker A: It's like you're. It's like you're inventing something. [00:36:53] Speaker C: You are. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Every day, you literally are inventing. [00:36:55] Speaker C: How has no one made this Lyric already. How is this title not already been done in that crazy. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Yeah. There's endless possibilities out there. [00:37:03] Speaker C: You think of it like I have a title, Treat Me Like Dirt. Like, how has no one written that? Yeah. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Which, by the way, I love that song. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:37:11] Speaker A: I love that song. I think that's gonna connect with so many people on both the guy and the girl level. You know, for anybody that grew up blue collar and they care, I'm like, [00:37:21] Speaker C: people might have to be a little country to understand that. [00:37:24] Speaker A: I grew up in a New York City suburb, Grant. I've been working in the country music for a while, but it's like that. That connected. And again, it's that the wittiness of this record, I think, is really gonna stand out. And I think the. It really shows the evolution for you too. And I think as you're. I think you talk about, like, your younger fans that you have. I think they're gonna grow with you. Like this project. Like, your previous stuff that's been out and what's to come after this project. [00:37:48] Speaker C: You know, the Lovey to Death album is. It's a collection of. Of songs that are supposed to help you heal through whatever tough heartbreak you're going through. And there's songs about my called off engagement, and that's kind of the. The root of kind of the pain in the project. But there's also love songs in the album for the people who got me through it. There's no love songs towards a dude. There's love songs to, you know, my family and my best friends, Daddy, daughter, dance and at my wedding. And then there's songs in the next phase. It's like, this is what I want. This is my hope. This is my dream. Songs like Big Picture and Treat Me Like Dirt, those are about this love that I envision and still believe in. And then, you know, what it takes is like a prayer. It's this. This realization that no matter how hard things have been, I'm still worthy of a love that lasts a lifetime. And I'm gonna hold on to that belief. And it's a prayer that I have to kind of say to myself to remember. And I sat down, I was like, if I have to tell myself this, I can't be the only one. And it's like, that was kind of a lot of the process of picking the songs for the album because I wrote way more songs than are on it. But it was like, what songs on here do I feel like were messages that I really, really needed? Because if I needed It. I'm not the only person. [00:39:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. There's billions of people out there. Somebody else is going to relate to it. [00:39:20] Speaker C: And it's not about me anymore. Like, once the music's on a project and out there in the world, it's for everybody else. It's for people to. To use and however they want to interpret it. And that's also what's so cool about how these songs kind of change their meanings and change. Like, at my wedding can be about anybody in your any. It could be your mom, it could be your sister. It could be your best friend. It could be whoever that person is for you. And I see people always tagging whoever it is in the comments and sharing it. It's so sweet. But something like daddy daughter dance, which, like, I wrote for my sweet, kind, amazing dad who I got to watch walk my older sister down the aisle and do their father daughter dance at the end of the wedding. There are women who come up to me and they're like, I didn't have a dad like that. But I love your song because I married a man like that and he's a father to my kids that way. And it's like, oh, my gosh. [00:40:17] Speaker A: You're like, I did it right well, or mission mission accomplished at that point [00:40:21] Speaker C: and made it what it needed to be for them. And, like, that's the beauty of music. It's. It morphs for the. The truth in whoever's listening to its life. [00:40:33] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. And the. The title track, love you to Death. What. What led you to that Being the name for this collection of. For this collection of songs? Because there's so many songs on there where they could have been the title track. But what led you to going with Love you to Death? [00:40:49] Speaker C: My goal is for people to hear the album and feel empowered and stronger. And so I thought if I start this song, this album out with a song that comes from such a place of power and control and, like, assurance in. In yourself, then you're gonna go into the rest of the project kind of with that mindset. And the point of Love youe to Death is I'm a. I'm such a loyal person and such a deep lover. Like, when I am in, I'm so in. And the hardest part about breakups is when someone doesn't reciprocate that and you lose your trust. And so, like, this song is kind of taking back the power in that situation and being like, I. I can either be the perfect wife. Listen, we're gonna. We're gonna love each other till at least the end of your life. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:48] Speaker C: Like, you're. This is it for you. So, like, I can either be the perfect wife or, like, There's a lot of, like, plays on words in this song too. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Yep. [00:41:57] Speaker C: Shocker. And there's some items that I kind of paint out in the verses that can be used for either thing. Like, I can use these items to either be the perfect wife or to murder you. It's like, it's. So we filmed a music video for it that's so fun and funny, and it's like, I don't know how to. How to explain it. It's like, kind of a love song. Unless somebody lies or cheats. That's. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:29] Speaker C: All you have to do is, like, [00:42:30] Speaker A: treat somebody right the f around and find out. [00:42:32] Speaker C: Exactly. Otherwise, I will literally be the perfect. [00:42:35] Speaker A: But there you go. [00:42:36] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:42:37] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:42:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I, I definitely. I was raised on kind of some of the. The crazy country and the murder ballads, and I know if. If that helps me through what I'm going through, hopefully this stuff will also help people get through what they're going through. [00:42:56] Speaker A: Nikki T. And I like to call that bad country. [00:42:58] Speaker C: You know what? [00:42:59] Speaker A: That's our. That's where. That's where we. That's what we like to call that kind of stuff. Yeah. Well. [00:43:03] Speaker C: And it's. At the end of the day, like, women go through so much and have to deal with so much that feeling, like there's a space in music where we get to be the ones in power. It's kind of sometimes the only time in your life you get to feel that way. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:18] Speaker C: And country music has taken that by the reins, and it's why I think women love it so much. [00:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think you're. You're. This album is dropping at the perfect time. One, because, I mean, we would have loved for it to be out even sooner, like, we are so excited about. But two, it's. There's this movement right now of strong females in country that I don't think we've had since Miranda and Carrie, like, when you and I were growing up. And I think this record fits in exactly with what is happening right now. [00:43:47] Speaker C: I realized that I started making the music that I was missing. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:51] Speaker C: It was the music I didn't have anywhere else. And I was like, I'm just gonna make it then so I can scream [00:43:56] Speaker A: to it myself and have fans scream it back to you, you know? So we've got a new. [00:44:01] Speaker C: A new generation of. Of Young, like, what'd you call it? [00:44:08] Speaker A: Bad. Yeah, [00:44:12] Speaker C: that. [00:44:12] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. Like. Like a new, new generation of like, just power females, you know, that are. That are coming up, that weren't in school, growing up, hearing before he cheats. [00:44:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:23] Speaker A: You know, there hasn't been a song like that in a minute. [00:44:25] Speaker C: And I realized that growing up in Texas, we are just absolutely raised to think with the mentality of never let them see you sweat. You know, loose lip sync ships. Like, it's. It's definitely a save your save face. Like, don't ever appear weak and just fight through it, Power through it, whatever it is. And as much as like, I. I have learned you do, you need to process your emotions. You have to be honest with yourself about these things. Having that as like the core baseline, it gives you a north star of where you're heading. It's like, whatever I'm going through, I know that's where I'm getting back to. I know that's the person that, like, I need to. To find my way into being again. Even though I just went through all these things that shattered my confidence and maybe my love for myself or your trust in your own ability to judge people correctly and trust. And I'm hoping that we. I didn't realize that that isn't how women are raised everywhere until I moved out of Texas and I started to hear a lot of negative self talk and women who hadn't ever been raised to believe that they could be powerful or strong. And I was like, maybe some of these songs can help change the mindset and mentality of like, yeah, we're gonna go through hard things. Everybody's going through hard things. But we can get through it. Because you're her. You're that girl. You got to. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:01] Speaker C: There's no other choice. You simply have to get through it. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Sink or swim, you must. You gotta keep swimming. You know, you gotta keep swimming. So what's something that you would tell. So you moved here. What year? What did you. [00:46:14] Speaker C: Probably 2015. [00:46:15] Speaker A: 2015. Okay. So. But when. When did you. When did the music stuff really start going for you? Was it around, like, 2018? [00:46:22] Speaker C: Right after Covid. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Right after Covid. So 21. So what would. If you could go back and talk to. Right. Coming out of COVID Julia Cole, what would you tell that girl? [00:46:34] Speaker C: Be. Be so thankful for your delusion. Like, I was so just blissfully ignorant on how anything worked. And I think it's why I've never had, like, maybe the same kind of burnout as other people or taken Things too hard because I just came from a. Well, I've never made music in my life. I hadn't been doing this since I was a kid. You know, it was just this fun thing that I was exploring and I've worked so hard at it. But it was always. I always felt like I was coming from behind because I knew so many people once I moved here who had been writing songs since they were eight years old and had been performing on stage since birth and whatever. And I was like, I gotta play catch up. And I always just kind of had that mentality of like, I started behind so I gotta run twice as hard to catch up. And I guess I just never stopped doing that. [00:47:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:27] Speaker C: So I guess that my message is just be thankful for the delusion and for not having a clue what you're doing. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:32] Speaker C: If I would have known how hard it was or how many things I had to do. It reminds me of I climbed Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, Africa. [00:47:39] Speaker A: You've done everything Holy. [00:47:41] Speaker C: I've done some weird stuff for sure. I'm like a buck. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Not weird stuff. That's cool stuff. [00:47:44] Speaker C: I just like to cross things off a bucket list. I love a new memory. It's like, yeah, I feel like if I do the same thing over and over again, my memories all blend together versus, like having this really distinctive new memory that feels like a. A new time mark for the era of my life. Whatever. So climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, the last day. It's an eight day climb on this mountain. And they. So you summit on day five and then you have to go down the rest of the days. I remember they, they started our summit day at like, we had to wake up at 11pm and you start climbing at midnight. Because they made it sound at first like, oh, we want you to summit at sunrise because it's beautiful for photos. I learned afterwards that the reason they make you start climbing the middle of the night is because if you saw the switchbacks, you're about to have to climb up for the next six, seven hours. You wouldn't do it. Like you met mentally, you would just. Just give up on it. [00:48:37] Speaker A: Wow. [00:48:38] Speaker C: And so you climb the whole thing with a little flashlight in the dark. And then by the time you get up, you look down, you're like, oh my gosh. That's the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. And if I would have known, I wouldn't have done it. I think it's the same thing with this industry. For me, it's like if I would have known, it would have scared me away. Probably. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Yeah. It's. It's be. Being blind to it can sometimes help. [00:49:02] Speaker C: And it is. God knew what he was doing. He's like, you need to be clueless and you need to just be excited. [00:49:08] Speaker A: It's like being a kid at the town pool and being scared to jump off the high dive. Then you close your eyes when you're up there and jump off. [00:49:14] Speaker C: You just gotta do it. [00:49:15] Speaker A: You just gotta do it. [00:49:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:17] Speaker A: That's awesome. That's really cool. Thank you so much for coming on here. It's been great. It's been great to catch up. Yeah. Way too long. We'll definitely. You gotta come out. We do our events over at Odies now. So if you're ever in town on a Wednesday, pop out, come, come, come say hey and get your midtown on. Yeah, that's been, it's been a great spot. And then we've moved our rounds. It's crazy looking back like you were one of our OGs playing rounds back in the day over at Live. Over at the OG Live Oak Live. Oh, I know the. Oh, the og because they moved over to where Doghouse is now. [00:49:48] Speaker C: See, I. I truly don't know where anything. Yeah. [00:49:50] Speaker A: And now. So now I'm doing the Tuesday rounds over at the local, which has been just been really good because it's like there's this whole generation of like, like the younger kids. Like there's a whole crop of like babies coming up right now, like 20, like 8. I had a 18 year old play last night from Canada and the local lets under 21 in because it operates as a restaurant. [00:50:10] Speaker C: Oh. [00:50:11] Speaker A: So it's like a little hub. Like how Belcourt Taps used to be back in the day. [00:50:14] Speaker C: Belcourt Taps was such a hit. I mean you can fit 10 people. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:20] Speaker C: Sucking in in that building. It's so small. But it was, it really was like [00:50:25] Speaker A: it had such a vibe, it had a scene to it, you know, and it's. [00:50:29] Speaker C: You knew when you were there that every other person there was also a songwriter. Like you're just performing for songwriters. Which is honestly harder because everyone's judging it based on like, like an artist's perspective. Not based on like just a random fan who's having a beer and having a good time. [00:50:45] Speaker A: Just the tourist that wants to hear live music. No, these are, these are pros. These are your peers. Yeah. Revival was like that back in the day. [00:50:52] Speaker C: Everyone's judging who they want to co write with and. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:54] Speaker C: Whose number they're going to try and get after. I mean, it's so funny looking back. [00:50:58] Speaker A: Yeah. It was a whole different game back [00:51:00] Speaker C: then, you know, so it's still that game. You're just like, I'm just not playing that same game. I'm in a different ball game now. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:08] Speaker C: It's like I didn't even know this part of the game existed until this year. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:12] Speaker C: And I'm doing all these things for the first time. I've never made a music video like the one we just did. I've never played these arenas. The. The challenges that come with playing a venue like that, it's so different than there are challenges that come in playing a small. A small bell court, taps type venue. But you have to, like, adjust to know how to face that new set of problems. There's going to be some crazy delay or like, what if the in ears aren't working? Or what if there's a million different things. [00:51:44] Speaker A: You have a lot of stage that you have to move around on. There's a catwalk. You want to try to work your way out there. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Talk to all the different spaces at the same time. It's. It's fun to. To experience the new pieces of it. Like, I think Kelly Clarkson show will be the first or that is the first, like, TV appearance. And, like, that's going to have its own. I've been taught by our new music director. It's like, you have to learn where the cameras are. [00:52:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:13] Speaker C: Like, what I'm like, used to being like, where are the. The people who are, like, screaming back, no, no. Where are the cameras? [00:52:18] Speaker A: And you were. You were telling of belting Kelly Clarkson when you were growing up. [00:52:24] Speaker C: Sucks. [00:52:25] Speaker A: Like, that's going to be an ultimate pinch me moment, I'm sure. [00:52:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:29] Speaker A: That's going to be crazy. Yeah. That's wild. Well, hey, congrats on everything. This is freaking awesome. And look forward to having you back. And look forward to hanging out somewhere in town. Maybe one of those new restaurants or one of. One of the hundreds of. [00:52:44] Speaker C: We deserve it. We do. [00:52:46] Speaker A: The OG's got to go out and be tortured tourists. [00:52:48] Speaker C: Exactly. We need a tour guide. [00:52:50] Speaker A: We honestly do. [00:52:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm going to be like, okay, show us the top three places, and we're gonna just have a night. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Explain this to us in 2020 Nashville terms. Yeah, exactly. Awesome. Well, y' all be sure to go and check out love you to death, the new record from our girl Julia Cole. It's out now. And get your tickets. She's gonna be going all over the country the love you to death tour. So excited and hope to see you on the road too. We're gonna have to get out there and get to a show. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:18] Speaker A: Watch you do the damn thing. For more of us Visit, raise your outdoor.com and shout out to our friends from surfside, no bubbles, no troubles. Also shout out to our friends from Oris watches. Fun new sponsor that we've got here. So my girl Julia I'm Matt Braille. This has been outside the round [00:53:35] Speaker B: I never been a converse day one place for too long I ain't never been the best at sin I love you to a girl I love only got a couple tricks up my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me if you really know me you know I'm just a two trick pony but maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show I'm just the two trick it yeah.