Josh Terry (Round 2)

[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is outside the round with Matt. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Barrel, a razor alley podcast. Well, I have been looking forward to this one right here. I have been looking forward to getting my brother the one, the only. I've known you now for five, coming up on four years because it was 2020 when we met. [00:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And, like, two of them you've liked me. [00:00:34] Speaker B: What do you mean, two of them I've liked you. I didn't know what to make of you at first, Josh. [00:00:39] Speaker A: I don't think anybody does at first. [00:00:41] Speaker B: Cuz the first time was. It was Macon at the crazy bowl. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Yep. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Right after Dick down came out and we dealt some of our. Some of the Nashville crew got a little too crazy that night. Who we're talking about. [00:00:52] Speaker A: Yeah, some people don't know how to act. [00:00:53] Speaker B: No, no, no. And that was wild. And then the DM Monday episode we did back in school, which is fun. That's where I got today. And since then, I feel like we've been. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not one of those people. I like to be hard to love or hard to figure out to be honest with you, because that means you have to. You have to figure. You have to get to know me before you pass judgment. And, yeah, I don't blame anybody for, like, not knowing what to make of me right off the bat because you're. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Because your branding was. Used to be the beer. It was at the bearded bastard. Bastard. Yeah. So I remember Trey be like, man, this bearded bastard. Guys talking all about dick down in Dallas. We all get down, see him in Macon, and then, dude, and then you become like family to us. [00:01:32] Speaker A: I love you guys. [00:01:33] Speaker B: We love you, too, brother. And we love what the. From. I remember back then, you were figuring out, like, making a presence in Nashville, and you've always been a guy that supports the. The traditional stuff, the damn country music. [00:01:45] Speaker A: I love the damn country music. [00:01:47] Speaker B: We do, too. And now to see what you do in town with. With your events, with the podcast being in town, like, your imprint now in Music City. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fucking cool. Is. Is. I don't believe it. I'd be real. Like, I have these moments of. Dude, I feel like a fake every day. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Really? Imposter syndrome. [00:02:07] Speaker A: So bad. It's just, like, me and you both know folks that are just so well deserving of spotlight. I don't like any spotlight. I know that. That probably seems like the completely lie or whatever in my life, but, like, I would rather showcase good things, charities, events, people that actually are doing good into the world. Yeah, I don't feel like I haven't worked for this. Like, I know I busted my ass, but I thought, look, luck has had a lot to do with some of this shit, and I feel like an imposter a lot of times. [00:02:36] Speaker B: And your mission statement is shedding the light on stuff that you think is cool. It causes that you believe it, and that's something that you've done with your show from the inception of it. [00:02:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:45] Speaker B: So it's. That makes total sense for the not wanting to be in the spotlight. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Somebody. Somebody told me one time, this is back on working radio, dude. They told me that the best kings are the people who don't want to be kings. And it's just because I don't. I want. I see myself as everybody else because I am. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:07] Speaker A: I do not think I'm better. I do not think I'm worse. But it's real hard when you're looking across from, like, everything that y'all built or even the past two days. I've had Josh Phillips with a number one right now with dirt cheap. And then I had Renee Blair yesterday with waiting to truck. [00:03:23] Speaker B: He is such a bad dude. I love it. [00:03:26] Speaker A: I fell in love with her yesterday. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Fantastic. [00:03:29] Speaker A: And to me, it's just like, how the fuck am I sitting here? [00:03:33] Speaker B: Like, why are these people sitting with me? [00:03:35] Speaker A: You like me. [00:03:36] Speaker B: You want to be on my show? [00:03:38] Speaker A: Me. Yeah. I don't get it. But also to the other thing that I do, like I've said since the very beginning with this stuff, I want to remain passionate and push the stuff that I am passionate about that some people think is taboo or whatever. But also, too, I want to mix the comedy, the Joe Rogan side of me with the Howard Stern with activism to make me. [00:04:01] Speaker B: That, to me, is what people get most surprised about when they listen to after they've listened to some episodes of yours. They're like, wait, he's like an activist. Like, he's just as much of a mental health advocate as he is a personality, as he is a lover of country music. That's a huge part of you and your brand is the struggles that people have. Mental health. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I just think, dude, that the good Lord gave me a talent to take the taboo out of stuff. I know we talked about it on one of the shows. Cause I won't get into it with you again. Cause they probably already heard it. But I'm a suicide survivor from 2010. Right. And I believe that the good Lord allowed me to get through that because I could take the taboo out of it and make people comfortable to where even before I got comfortable with it, the word suicide tasted like shit in my mouth when I said it. It was a scary word to say. And now I'm like, yeah, I tried to off myself in 2010, and I found out that there were better ways to live and that I needed to be doing stuff different to where people relate with it. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah. It's knocking off the stigma. [00:05:04] Speaker A: Yeah. It's taking taboo from it. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. And I feel what I love, too, is. Cause Nick. Nick and I obviously, like, we're very much in the same world. The Josh Terry show, the raisin grace nights at Live Oak, in the same world as what we do at raised rowdy. But I love that there's, like, so many different, like, segments within our segment. Like, what you do and what you're able to do and what your branding is is different than what ours is. It's different than what Ward does with whiskey jam. It's different than what the whiskey riff guys do in Chicago. Like, everything's got a little bit different. I love how you just make things a spectacle. Like, I love, like, you grew up watching wrestling. Oh, you grew up watching the attitude. [00:05:44] Speaker A: I'll guarantee you from middle school, right before I got to middle school, I found out that I like titties. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:50] Speaker A: Like, it was nothing but wrestling. Yeah. Then it switched to titties. Like, it's just one of them. Thanks, other boy. [00:05:56] Speaker B: Because I love how you. Because, like, I've watched how, like, your content stuff. I'm like, he's a heel or he's a baby face, or he's this. Or, like, you're Paul Heyman bringing around Brock Lesnar. [00:06:08] Speaker A: You almost got it, right? You almost got it. I'm the anti hero. [00:06:11] Speaker B: You're the anti hero. [00:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm the stone cold. That's the goal. To where this guy's kind of a piece of shit, but I like him. Like, stone cold did a lot of shit to where it was like, that's not a good guy doing it, but I'm cheering for it. [00:06:24] Speaker B: I'm rooting for him. [00:06:25] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I want. But also, too, the other. Not just because I'm a huge stone Cole fan who isn't, but also too, I don't put myself on a pedestal. I don't want to be the good guy because it's so far to fall. If you put yourself on that. I can make mistakes. I can fuck up to where if I'm a good guy and I'm not a good guy, like, I'm not a bad person, don't get me wrong, but I'm not no crusader. [00:06:52] Speaker B: There's a difference between a good guy and a good person. Yeah, there's a difference. [00:06:56] Speaker A: You can see all these people that want to be loved on social media, and if they're not loved, it destroys them. It kills them. To where? Me. It's like, oh, you didn't like what I posted? Damn, that sucks. I'm on to the next thing. I don't need your validation. [00:07:13] Speaker B: No. [00:07:13] Speaker A: If I was being the good guy, I would have to get validation from you to know that I'm doing a good job. [00:07:18] Speaker B: And I think that goes back to your mental health thing, too, because that's when the moment that people stop giving a fuck is such a powerful moment in somebody's life. [00:07:26] Speaker A: It is. [00:07:27] Speaker B: It really is. [00:07:28] Speaker A: It is. Dude. I can still think from the first time I walked into live oak as doing the podcast or whatever, and I cared what everyone in there thinks. And if you go back and listen to those first episodes, we're gonna say. [00:07:42] Speaker B: I was there for some of them. [00:07:43] Speaker A: Yeah. It was where I was trying so hard, and I knew it. Maybe nobody else could tell, but I was trying so hard. I was pushing jokes, I was pushing conversations. [00:07:55] Speaker B: You were treating it like a radio remote where you only have four breaks to talk. But the difference is you can. You've got the whole thing to talk. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's just. That's not what I wanted to do there. [00:08:04] Speaker B: No. [00:08:05] Speaker A: And now I've developed it into what we've gotten out of where I know it works. It's two, 6 hours of the show. But be funny on the intros. Be funny on the exits. Yeah, be funny. Make a con, like, say some slick shit to an artist while you're up there. That's the content. You still. That's an attention grabber. Still, for the listener. They're listening to good music, but, oh, what did Josh say, mark, or. He looked like. Like some shit. [00:08:30] Speaker B: Like, what did Brian Martin say back to Josh? [00:08:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, yeah, so you're, like, listening to more of it. And to be real with you, that's what I've tried to do with us. Putting out each one of our rounds as a podcast episode is one not everybody gets. Come with us to a writers round, and I think that it is horrible that they don't get to. I mean, it's just some people can't afford to come up here. Some people don't know they exist. I want people to hear them. I want people to hear what they're missing. Nashville's a lot more than Broadway bands, you know, like, way fucking more. [00:08:59] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:09:00] Speaker A: And I want them to know that. But also, too, I want them to be entertained. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:03] Speaker A: And I don't get complaints on it. No, I mean, it's. I don't. I mean, I would expect by some point in time now that some artists as picky as managers are, as TMS are, as labels and everything are. I have yet to have anybody come back to me and say, I don't like the way we did business with you. Our artists, either on the podcast or the live Oak round, every one of them is like. It's working. [00:09:28] Speaker B: It's fun. [00:09:29] Speaker A: It's fine. [00:09:29] Speaker B: It's something different. The Josh Terry experience is something different than other events in town. I mean, we know. We do fucking twelve to 13 of them a month right now. [00:09:38] Speaker A: We're running fucking radio. I would die. [00:09:40] Speaker B: And then we're going to out of town shit, bro, we got. We were in Key west this past week, which I know we got. We got our surfside stuff here that's actually pretty fun. People. People like. People like those a lot. Ike and Jerry drank the piss out of those. They drank a lot of them. And then I was drinking the high rises down there. The THC ones, bro, we did a case race. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Do you a case race? [00:10:02] Speaker B: We killed. They gave us, like, so many cases to just give out to people and have at our events. Yeah, we ended up. You can't bring ten cases of high rise on the airplane. So we. We did a. We did a case race. [00:10:14] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:10:15] Speaker B: She, Nikki, Ike and Jerry. [00:10:18] Speaker A: And case. Racist is me. [00:10:21] Speaker B: Nikki, Jerry. Ike's not a 420 guy. I was drinking the surfside and. Yeah, well, not a case each, but they hit and I had not been that high in a long time. And it was like a chill. It would just felt good. It was just sitting there being giggly, bro. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Just watching the tv with the boys, getting giggly. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I got giggly last night. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Where were you last? Oh, yeah, you were with Renee and Josh. And then who. [00:10:44] Speaker A: What did we do yesterday? [00:10:45] Speaker B: What crew did you bring up with you? Because you always travel. I'm surprised it's just you in here right now, because you always have an entourage with you. [00:10:53] Speaker A: See, like, even that right there. All of a sudden. All of a sudden, people like that befriend me. Like. Like, it's. And that's what I love about you guys, too. It's like y'all the same way. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:03] Speaker A: You can't help but love you. It's not like you do one episode with somebody, then no contact after that. Yeah, it's like his buddies now. [00:11:11] Speaker B: Just. [00:11:11] Speaker A: But no, we brought up. We got Riley Anderson tonight. [00:11:15] Speaker B: I love Riley. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Will Moseley and Cole Goodwin. You're not. Kick my ass when I say this. Cause I love both of you. And you're both amazing. Riley's my fave. Riley, of all my boys. There's something about him that I love. Every guy that we bring up with us is amazing. They're good people. They're everything. Riley's got a soft place in my. Big place in my heart, for some reason. And I also think he's just amazing. [00:11:41] Speaker B: And I think Will and Cole. We've actually got an episode with Cole coming out here soon, which I'm very excited about. But will. Will. Will. Obviously, the success that him and Cole are having right now is incredible. [00:11:54] Speaker A: I just got the phone with Will when I was walking in the door. [00:11:57] Speaker B: There's something. But there's something about Riley Anderson's songwriting. And just. He's just. He makes all three of them do. But Riley especially makes every room that he walks in better. [00:12:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:10] Speaker B: It's just a presence. Just a big. Just a big fucking teddy bear. [00:12:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And you can just tailor. His heart's bigger in this table. And he's a big man. [00:12:19] Speaker B: His heart might be bigger than his. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. I think he's all heart. I don't think any of his cheeseburgers. It's all heart. There's something about him that's so infectious. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:30] Speaker A: That you know from the first 2nd that you love him. And that he's just one of those people, dude. And the more I hear his songs, I'll tell you this, it'll already be out by then, probably. So I started getting into rotten music. [00:12:47] Speaker B: Rats beat. You had a cut recently. Yeah, was. [00:12:49] Speaker A: It was me and Brian Martin and will mosley got a Adam Calhoun cut. Which is the weirdest goddamn thing of all time. That, dude. One of the first events I ever did this is when I was still bearded bastard. Fucking 2017. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Oh, pre COVID. [00:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I was hosting a mud bog in my hometown. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Of course you were. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Of course I was the first. Yeah, dude, mud bog. [00:13:15] Speaker B: God bless mud bugs. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Yeah, no shit. They've made me some money. I've also got a couple other things I can't get rid of because of mud bogs. Like, bad memories. I know what y'all were thinking, but he was part of one of them. And we didn't remain friends or friendly or whatever. Like, I don't dislike the guy at all. I just don't know him well. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Sometimes people don't click. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we just didn't click. I think the dude's good. Dude just didn't click. And it's just. I just always believe, like, the good Lord gives you little reminders that you're living right or you're going the right way in life. Like, you might not be there yet, but you're on the right road. And the first thing that my name is on as a songwriter is with this guy that I met in 2017 or 16 at the. The first show that I hosted when I started blowing up on social media with Snapchat and everything about the end, it's like, that's a full circle moment for me. And it's. It's a weird one because it's not like I can say, damn, Adam, that's. Fuck. Great job, dude. You. You killed it. And he did. He did a good job with it. It's just. I don't know him to do it to him. [00:14:22] Speaker B: But it's so cool that the cut is with the boys. Brian and will as well. [00:14:28] Speaker A: It is, uh. [00:14:29] Speaker B: That's a cool room to be in. There's a lot of songwriters that would kill to be in that room. [00:14:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:32] Speaker B: Two boys. [00:14:32] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know why they like me. Um, it was. But, like, I'm. I get. I. I come with a lot of weird concepts. [00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:41] Speaker A: So I see shit from a different point of view. I think the most songwriters would, because I don't consider myself a songwriter at all. I'm not. I do it as a hobby. I'm not trying to get paid from it. I'm just having fun with it. So I can look at shit goofy. I can look at shit from outside the box. I can think about it in a way that somebody that's good, like brian Martin and will moseley wouldn't have. Yeah, because it's good. Like, they know how it's supposed to be done. And just so happened that night, we was at the bar and we was talking about my girlfriend, and I was like, the only thing I've ever done right is how wrong I've done her. And, like, just playing like it was a joke. And then next thing you know, brian martin. Cause he speaks in fucking song. He's like, that song, let's go back to the house and ride it. 3 hours later, we. We had it. And he. When we got done, he was like, you know, I'm saying, that's a cut. Like, I'll tell you. He calls them wall hangers. Wall hanger? Okay, dude, that's cool. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Then how'd it get to adam? [00:15:43] Speaker A: I have no idea. I don't know if him and brian are good buddies. And he pitched it to. I don't. Adam. I don't know how that shit. I don't fucking care. When he messaged me, this is how ignorant I am. When he messaged me, brian or adam, and he said, hey, well, you got your first cut. Congratulations. I was like, what are you talking about? Because I didn't know he'd even send it anywhere. And anyway, I was like, oh, when I get paid. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Where'S the money? [00:16:12] Speaker A: I was like, okay, don't I make something from this? And brian just like, no, no, you don't. [00:16:17] Speaker B: Street cred. [00:16:18] Speaker A: That's not how this works. [00:16:20] Speaker B: Street cred for the songwriter. [00:16:21] Speaker A: But I said all that to say this with riley. Riley has been up my ass to write music. And he's like, I don't feel confident doing it at all. Cause I feel like I'm t ball everybody else in major leagues. And I feel like you're supposed to earn the rooms you're in no matter what you're doing in life. [00:16:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:39] Speaker A: And it's like, I'm not asking a single person they want to write a song. I'll get drunk and send my buddies a concept and then be like, whatever. But I'm starting to get where, like, I'll do it by myself and just have fun with it or whatever it be. Whatever. Riley was going to surprise me tonight at the round, and I was like, I'm going to go ahead and say it so I don't cry like a bitch tonight, and I'm going to get it out. But when I wrote all the way from start to finish, he's playing tonight. And when he told me yesterday, he. Because he played it on the show, so I would have recording of it. And, like, that surprise moment with him telling me on the show, and I was like, you want to do that? Like, you know, don't. You don't have to, like, you don't throw me a bone or acknowledge me or whatever. Like, that's not, you know, this is something cool for me and you. That's what it. That's what it is to me. And he's like, I know. Cause you need to know you can do this shit. Like, we like doing it with you. Riley tries to make you feel better about yourself. And I hope everybody has a Riley Henderson in their life. Is all I can tell you. Yes, I hope. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Amen. [00:17:39] Speaker A: I'm telling you that, dude. Whoo. Getting touched up just thinking about it. [00:17:43] Speaker B: Exciting, bro. [00:17:44] Speaker A: It is real. [00:17:45] Speaker B: That's really fucking cool, dude. You got a good lineup tonight for tonight. [00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. We're ending with Jacob Bryant, Justin Andrews, and Riley Anderson. [00:17:56] Speaker B: That's fantastic. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. But everybody. I mean, there's some, like, there's a couple. [00:18:01] Speaker B: You got Trey on there tonight. [00:18:02] Speaker A: Trey? He was supposed to. We had to take him off. He's recording or something today, but it's Troy Trace played it, like, so many times. [00:18:09] Speaker B: Like, he's one of the ogs. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I think whenever he texts me the other day, he thought I was gonna be, like, disappointed and let down or whatever, and it's done. Got to. Where would like him, Brian, and other people. I've seen people get really salty just in the five years that I've been coming up here working and everything. Really salty. When their friends start to get bigger and then they can't do as much stuff. I almost want you not to be able to fucking call. [00:18:33] Speaker B: I want you to be out on the road playing fucking stadium. [00:18:36] Speaker A: It's like, oh, you're busy. You're doing something good for yourself. Yeah, I don't care if you come. [00:18:41] Speaker B: Your music career's working. [00:18:42] Speaker A: Like, you're doing. Well, fuck you. Like, no, I don't care if you come and do my show. Cause I think a lot of people. And y'all probably the same way, to be honest with you, there's a lot of people that I invite to come play. It's not that I don't think their music is really good. Cause I do, but I'm really just inviting them so I could be around them. Yeah, these are my dudes. Like, you could play the shittiest song in the world. I'm not gonna care. Just hurry up and do it. Get off stage and hang out with me. [00:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:08] Speaker A: That's what I really care about. I don't know. I want to provide a good event, and y'all do, too. Like, it's always that. But I grew up in a lot of locker rooms, playing sports, all this, all my life. [00:19:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:21] Speaker A: This is the only thing I've ever came close to the locker room feel. Dude, I agree, is being with you boys. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Dude, I agree, man. Especially in music, with the songwriters, with the guys that are just adjacent to it, like ourselves, you know, like, and you've built such a crew of guys and girls that come to the different events, whether that's going to our florabama shit show or whether. Or whether that's going to your. Your honky tonk nights that you've been doing down in Macon. Like, you've built such a culture of just of your people that identify with you but also happen to have their own things going, whether that's an adult entertainment or that's in comedy or that's in an inspirational company or a veteran or a musician. [00:20:03] Speaker A: Well, I wanted. I wanted to cast such a. A wide mouth. [00:20:06] Speaker B: You cast the widest out there, bro. Yeah, well, you really do. [00:20:10] Speaker A: But it's good walks of life. [00:20:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:20:13] Speaker A: It's good walks. I, like, I almost want to say, and I'm not. I don't mean this talent wise. I want to say just as, like, who you are as a person. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:22] Speaker A: Doesn't matter what you do for a living. You got a chance to be fucking great. And I feel like the people that are around us, whether they know it yet or not, they're great at what they do. [00:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I would agree with that. [00:20:32] Speaker A: And you just make me better. Even if it is an Onlyfans girl, if you're the best at what you do and you're a good person, it's a hustle. Yeah. We was all talking about it on the show. We had record one before I came here, and we got on the topic of Dan Brazilian or whatever, and I. [00:20:46] Speaker B: Was like, damn, bilzerian. [00:20:47] Speaker A: I can't fucking say his name right. He doesn't deserve to have a good last name or anything with all those women. [00:20:52] Speaker B: He's an interesting character. [00:20:54] Speaker A: One thing I always admired about him is I think he figured out something that's almost for free for marketing if you do it the right way, is he has all these women around him all the time. I don't know if he's sleeping with them. I don't know if he's not or whatever, but he make. It makes him look so cool to certain people, and it's like, wait, you didn't pay for advertising. You didn't. You didn't sit there and take, you know, all day, one day to record eight podcasts. You just literally had good looking women around you having fun, and now everybody's buying your shit. Hey, let me. Give me some of them bitches. I need some of them. Like, y'all just go everywhere with me. They made the comment that when we went out on Monday night, there was, like, six women with us and one of their boyfriends. And everywhere we went, people were, like, staring at us. And, like, they said, dude, you don't realize, like, you look like you're something special. Like, you. You look like you're supposed to be known. And I was like, I don't know. Like, I don't. I know I'm not. Like, I'm nothing special. But that's the image that, like, I want to get off to people is, like, maybe I need to find out who that is. Like, I want it. I want to look like somebody that you need to figure out who that is that you want to come say hey to. Not because I need your note, like, your acceptance or anything or attention, but I want you to come say hey to me so I can tell you what I do, so you can go look it up. Like, that's more. [00:22:28] Speaker B: It's marketing. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Marketing for me. It's not like I'm not quite craven attention, but also to. I have to market. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:34] Speaker A: And instead of spending fucking money on money on money, like, why not just have good looking women and some great songwriters and some really cool dudes, content creators that actually like around me and let it do itself, let it market itself and some. [00:22:49] Speaker B: And some characters. And lately. Lately you've been in the saga, and I'm glad. It seems like the book has finally close. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Fucking better. [00:22:58] Speaker B: I remember the night that you. You sent Nikki and I a screenshot. You were like, who's this guy? And we're like, oh, shit, we got to call Josh. And we talked with you on the phone and explained the situation of the history of the wolf man going back to professional wrestling. I'm like. I'm like, josh is in a. I'm like, this is like a WWE attitude era field, like, or attitude attitude era feud, and it's looking like these guys are getting ready for, like, hell in the cell or WrestleMania or whatever. And then you made the guy go baby face at the end, I think so. Like, you flipped him. You gave him the opportunity to flip from heel to heal what would have. [00:23:34] Speaker A: Been great, what would have been wonderful. And everybody has asked me, like, did you, like, stage this shit and everything? [00:23:41] Speaker B: No. You didn't stage any of it. [00:23:42] Speaker A: I know. I wish I would have. That's it. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Why is that? [00:23:46] Speaker A: Because I could have made it so much better. Like, if you would have gave me to where I could have planned it, like, wrestling or whatever. A storyline. [00:23:54] Speaker B: I think there was a storyline. I was looking. I don't even go on TikTok, and I was looking on TikTok to be like. [00:23:58] Speaker A: It was. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Oh, my God, what a Cody post. [00:24:00] Speaker A: It was stuff that was developed generically, which I think is what made it good. And maybe if I would have wrote a storyline for it, it would have been too much. But, like, there. There are certain things. Like, I probably would have played it a little bit longer. Like, even tonight. Like, if I would have had it my way, if I would have wrote a script for it, I would have said, cody Wolf's coming tonight. I would have said it tonight to pack out that bar and just see, like, everybody. To see what he's gonna do or whatever. And then I would have waited till last minute. I would have gotten to make a video or something. Yeah. Put the video there and be like, hey, I'm too good for live oak or whatever. Like, um. But nice. You can't. I like. I like things to be entertaining, but I don't like chaos. But I can deal with controlled chaos. Yes. There's no control chaos there. Like, it's chaos. And I feel for the dude. I do. Probably about a week before we did that episode, I had a phone call with him, and I don't. I didn't talk about this on my show yet. I had a phone call with him. I got really hurt by some of the stuff that people were saying online, and I was not gonna be part of that. Like, I wanted to. I called him and I let him know. I don't like anything that you do, but it's not my place to give you, like, that. You don't need my approval, dude. But one thing I'm not gonna do is keep making these videos and stuff to where people are bashing things you can't help. I'm not gonna be that dude. I'll let em sit and talk about shitty. Your music is all day that you're delusional. But there are some things like that. I just. I feel like I'm a. That I'll talk shit to my friends all day and tell them what a piece of shit they are because I know they can take it and they're not gonna take it personal. [00:25:52] Speaker B: Yeah. That's a different dynamic. [00:25:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't. I'm not gonna sit here and watch people pick on somebody. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:57] Speaker A: That's not me. [00:25:58] Speaker B: And that's what it was starting. [00:25:59] Speaker A: Yeah, there was. There was. There were some people. Some stuff was funny. I'm not gonna lie. There was some stuff that was funny. [00:26:06] Speaker B: When it's good, it's when it's going off of the crazy shit that he's saying, that's one thing. But when it's physical appearance and things. [00:26:11] Speaker A: Like that, like, I was. I was bullied as a kid. Most of us were. Like, everybody, at some point in time, has somebody talking shit about them as a kid, right? I was. And I ended up being bullied so bad for. As a kid that by the time I got to high school and stuff, I became the bully. So I just. I projected the hate that had been given to me, and I'm not that way. Like, I'm not that person anymore. And I'm damn glad I'm not that person anymore. And I just. I'm not gonna sit here and watch people do this to this kid. Like, he deserves some shit. Now, don't get me wrong. Cause even that episode that I did. [00:26:49] Speaker B: With him, there was still some stuff in there. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But I was just like, can't do this no more. When there was times. Cause there was, like, one of my buddies called me, and he doesn't know anything about the industry. He's a hometown dude. I love him. [00:27:02] Speaker B: That's a Josh Terry fan. [00:27:03] Speaker A: He's one of my babies. Like, I. We're just. We're just. He's like my brother. [00:27:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:07] Speaker A: He was like, dude. He's like, I think you went a little hard on the guy. And I was like, I didn't. I tried my best to show him grace, but if you didn't own some of the shit that he was saying, even then, it was outlandish. It's like, you kind of. I kind of wanted to throw a couple more jabs in there, but it wasn't done. [00:27:29] Speaker B: No, I think you did. I think you did really well. We listened to it while we were walking back from one of the pool parties in Key west, and we. We saw. I get posted. We're like, oh, shit. We all gotta listen. And we listened on or walked back. [00:27:40] Speaker A: You should say, I wish I could show it to you now. The day it came out, we get these hot maps with our management company that shows me what areas are listening to. Show, or all that. Whatever ton of national key west. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:52] Speaker A: West fucking blue. [00:27:54] Speaker B: Well, that's because. That's because. [00:27:56] Speaker A: Yeah, so there was, like, so many people down there listening to it, and I was like, they're supposed to be having a good time right now. They're listening to me. [00:28:03] Speaker B: I feel like. I feel like that's kind of helped. Like, that's like, that will. That little chapter will be a part of the. The Nashville story of Josh Terry. Like, I call you the wolf Slayer. [00:28:13] Speaker A: I don't know if I want to be called that, but, yeah, I guess one of those things that when I get done with something, I'm done with it. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Move on to the next. [00:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And also to the last week of that month. We were going into coming back up here for two days to play in that creative vets golf tournament. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Oh, but awesome. [00:28:32] Speaker A: I love creative eds. I love everything about them. So my schedule that week was literally supposed to be promote creative vets, promote people going, and, like, they don't ask me to do it. I just. This is what I love, what they do for veterans. [00:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:47] Speaker A: And that's what was supposed to be my content all week. I was so screwed up in the head about that shit that I didn't want to do anything. I just. I took a whole week off, didn't post an episode, nothing. Because I wanted to figure out how to handle it because it was weighing on me, because I'm not gonna be responsible for somebody feeling bad about themselves. If you like, there's some people can't take a joke, and I've got to understand that. [00:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:15] Speaker A: And then some people are just hateful as fuck, and I don't want that hate going on to somebody. And I was the platform to help get the hate there. That's not me, dude. No, I could have kept doing. I mean, it spiked the ratings. I ain't gonna lie. Like, it was good. Like, it was some good fucking numbers. [00:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:31] Speaker A: I ain't gonna lie. And sales were good on that shirt and some other stuff, but that's not what I'll be known for. Like, I've always said, and I say to every chance I get morals over money for me. I've been broke a lot of my life. I can be broke a little bit more if I'm not making money the right way. I don't want to make it. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Like, I don't have to sell my soul yet. [00:29:50] Speaker B: Makes sense, I guess. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Isn't that right? There was. Started weighing. I didn't want. I didn't want him a part of it. And I hope if he's. If he listens to this or whatever, that, like, he just remembers what I told him on the phone that day is like, because he called me the day after it came out, and he was upset. This is 12 hours after it posted. He called me, and he was like, there's people messaging me, and they're saying nice things, but nobody wants to work with me yet. And I was like, Cody, it's been 12 hours. [00:30:20] Speaker B: Yeah, you. [00:30:21] Speaker A: You're gonna have to, like, you've gained their respect enough to where they're being nice and they're being friendly now you gotta show it now show your worth. Like, if you start going, like, backtracking, you're screwed. Like, don't, don't backtrack. [00:30:34] Speaker B: You're giving him an up. You opened the door for him to be able to walk through and make some progress and change the perception. [00:30:42] Speaker A: And I hope you did, cuz even it was funny. Nick Haynes. [00:30:45] Speaker B: Oh, I love Nick. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Messaged me this long message one day is extremely nice, sweet. And he was, you could tell. And it was like the good Lord got him to message me and say what I was already thinking, like, and is what I needed to hear. At times. I was kind of crossroads with it because you know me, I'm a fucking crash test. I mean, I will burn a house down in a heartbreak to prove a point. Right. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:09] Speaker A: And I was like, I'm really going to have to make an example of this kid. Like, I, he doesn't realize it, but, like, I'm going 50% right now and I'm only doing 50% because you won't stop. I'm giving it just enough attention because I know it's good for the show, it's good for social media, and it's easy work for me. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:27] Speaker A: To make a couple jabs at somebody, make a couple videos. There's no effort in that for me. But I knew it wasn't right. And when Nick sent me that message, dude. And then right after that, I think Tyler Reeve sent me one that was kind of along the same lines. I'd seen, like, a couple more, but I was like, you know what? I gotta chill. Like, this. This kid don't know what he grew up with. I know how he's acted to people. He don't deserve it. Like, none of us deserve that shit. Like, everybody fucks up. I'm a king of fuck ups. [00:31:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I've had my moments. Yeah. I am the king of absolutely every person has. [00:32:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like, man, if we don't show grace and we don't forgive somebody else when they fuck up, that means we don't deserve to be forgiven when we fuck up. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:09] Speaker A: In my mind. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And you talk about Grace, and something that you, you document very well is that you are, you are a parent. You have your little girl who's not, who's. Now, she's, she's not an asshole. She's not just a little girl. [00:32:21] Speaker A: No more to be 13 this year. [00:32:23] Speaker B: And what's it like? Because I'm around us. I'm around a five year old all the time, and I'm. And five year old is awesome. Oh, yeah. I have good times with. With Erin and her daughter Charlotte. But, like, right, a 13 year old. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Now she'll be 13 September. She's. She's a bitch. Um, how so? [00:32:43] Speaker B: Give me an example. What has she been doing lately? [00:32:46] Speaker A: Okay, so me and my girlfriend went through this little spat, like, a week or so ago or, like, last week or whatever, I jumped to conclusions on everything. So, like, if you say, hey, I need a little bit of time or space or whatever, I'm already. I'm, like, already in my head. I have such bag abandoning issues. I was like, God damn this bitch. I done lost seven months and done been nice to you. Like, just mad as hell. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:11] Speaker A: And so, anyway, like, I was under the assumption that we kind of, like, were split up or whatever. Or whatever. Like, there was something else. Cause I'm always gonna think the worst. [00:33:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:19] Speaker A: There's no way I. [00:33:19] Speaker B: There's another dude you'd rather just be disappointed? [00:33:22] Speaker A: I just already would disappoint the fuck out of myself and make something out of it. Well, we're on the way somewhere, and it's me. Gracie and her mother were on the way to her orthodontist appointment, and I said something, and I said, gracie, you look like an asshole right now doing that. And she looked at me, said, well, you look single. And I was like, are you shitting me? [00:33:44] Speaker B: She is the daughter of Josh Terry. She is your kid. That's you. [00:33:48] Speaker A: She's amazing. [00:33:49] Speaker B: That's you in a little girl form. She is amazing. And to come back at you like that, but she. [00:33:53] Speaker A: She knows. She knows how to handle me better than anybody else. She knows that I need some validation every once in a while. Like nobody else has ever got me. And, like, even though I was up here, I went and hosted an event for rock or rock the south or something, whatever it is on last Friday. Down south. I'm gonna have to look. [00:34:18] Speaker B: Rock down south? Yeah, I don't want to. I don't know. [00:34:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't want to mess it up. [00:34:23] Speaker B: That looked like a cool event. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:24] Speaker B: It looked like it went well. [00:34:26] Speaker A: It was. It was good. I had a very good time. But, like, it was for make a wish. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Another charity that you. [00:34:32] Speaker A: This is the first time I've ever worked with Georgia. Make a wish. [00:34:34] Speaker B: But it. [00:34:35] Speaker A: Being what it is. [00:34:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Being what it is totally on brand for you. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like I'm gonna go do if you ask me. And I can make a difference and help somebody. Don't matter if it's raised fucking 50 more dollars. I'm gonna go do it. Yeah, but there's a picture that they posted thanking me and everything for hosting it, and it's me holding a make a wish flyer up on stage, whatever. And my daughter sent me a smart ass text message first, and I'll read you the text message that this little. [00:35:01] Speaker B: I don't know. I think I met Gracie once. I got to meet her again. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Oh, you can? You definitely, definitely. She'll be. She'll be up here next month. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Oh, no shit. [00:35:09] Speaker A: Yeah. For our shows next month. She's gonna be here? [00:35:11] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:35:11] Speaker A: She sent me this. She said, I posted you on my instagram story today, so show me some gratitude and. Cause she does not acknowledge me or anything that I do on. On her social media at all. And I love her for that. She, like, I get it. Cause she gets kind of, like, I don't really want people to know who I am and all that kind of stuff, but she posted that picture of me from make a wish. That's her way of saying she's proud of me. Yeah, like, you're doing a good job. And she knows that sometimes, like, I need that shit. And she's the best in that aspect. But that mouth, that attitude. I'm screwed. I'm so fucked. It's not even funny. But it's also, like, that thing. And I've heard parents and everybody say this forever is like, that's what you would have said. So you can't get mad. And it's like, yeah, I can't. I can't get mad. She knows I can't spell. I'm dyslexic. Anytime anything's happening to where she wants, like, a good punch at me or whatever, doesn't matter what's going on. If I give her a little shit, she's like, spelled giraffe. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Oh, jeez. [00:36:13] Speaker A: And I'm like, you, bitch, you know I can't. [00:36:19] Speaker B: That's great. See, you got Gracie then. And then you got. You got a couple dogs. And one of the dogs is. He's made his debut on cover art for Cole. [00:36:28] Speaker A: Good. Fucking mad. [00:36:29] Speaker B: He made his debut on cover art before you did Josh. [00:36:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:33] Speaker B: He's part of the centerpiece. [00:36:34] Speaker A: You have no idea how mad I am that. That dog is the one that got on anything. Yeah. That dog's a piece of shit. That dog is the worst. [00:36:43] Speaker B: What's that dog's name? [00:36:44] Speaker A: Woodrow. [00:36:45] Speaker B: Woodrow. [00:36:45] Speaker A: That dog is the worst. That dog is the worst animal the good Lord ever created. [00:36:50] Speaker B: So why do you have him? [00:36:51] Speaker A: I can't fucking get rid of him now. He's been around, like, almost four years. [00:36:55] Speaker B: How'd you acquire him? [00:36:56] Speaker A: I bought him. He's. I've always wanted a basset hound. And right before I opened the studio, I had another basset hound. I was about a year old. His name was Gus. And Gus got stolen from me on a Friday. And then by Tuesday, he had been returned. I'm guessing they figured out what a piece of shit he was, too. Cause he didn't listen. He was a bad dog. So we ended up getting him back, and then he got ran over, like, two days. So he was like a roller coaster ride that week. It was real sad. But then the first week that the studio was open, this woman messaged me on social media. She saw her. My dog died, like, the previous week. And she said, hey, if you want another basset hound, we just had a litter. I'll give you x amount if you want to, if you want one. And of course, I'm still in the fucking grieving stage. And I'm like, I want to know the dog. That'll make me feel all better. And I swear to you, Matt, I swear to you, you would have had to know what piece of shit Gus was. It's like the soul of that dog went into this dog, and he's just a big of a piece of shit. He doesn't listen. I've never. I've always had labs. These are the first two basset hounds I ever had labs. Listen, when you tell them to do absolutely anything, they're amazing dogs. You know who doesn't? Fucking basset hounds. They don't listen to nothing. They're moody. They. They have an attitude. [00:38:18] Speaker B: Moody. They're the worst. Like, what does he get Moody about? [00:38:22] Speaker A: Everything. I'm telling you, like, in my backyard, I will leave them out there. They're dogs. It's beautiful weather in Georgia right now before it gets too hot. If it's late at night and he wants to come in the labs, is laying there chilling, having a great time that dogs go. And then when you let him in or whatever, if you don't let him get, like, underneath you while you're sleeping, he makes noises, like, all night. And I'm fucking fat, and I sweat when I sleep in. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Got no room. Yeah. [00:38:51] Speaker A: And it's like, get your ass on, and he'll just fuck with you the whole time. He's a horrible animal. I got a surprise for you by the way, since you brought those up, when is this episode probably gonna come out? [00:39:04] Speaker B: This will be coming out next Tuesday. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Okay, cool. So they won't be ready yet, but I met with an artist the other day that is doing this artwork for me that I had been also, like. [00:39:18] Speaker B: A paint, like a drawing. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Badass. So there's a tip of the hat to you and Nikki in there. Okay, so imagine live oak stage. I don't know if you ever seen the chair that I record the podcast in back at the studio, but it's like a red velvet throne. Oh, okay. So the throne's in the middle of the stage, I'm sitting in it. And then a lot of our friends, a lot of our friends, the cartoon character of them is in it. And it is going to be where it's complete chaos on the stage. The basset hounds running around with a liquor bottle in his mouth. The lab sitting next to my leg, Lee Tucker's fat chuckling next to me. My daughter's on the edge of the stage looking sweet and sassy. She's only one that looks cute in it. But I started to put you and Nikki in it and like. Cause I put Trey in it. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Just because he's one of those that I really value him as a person. Yeah, dude. I really do. I do think he's an amazing person. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [00:40:21] Speaker A: And I was like, I've got so many people in here, I gotta do something for race rowdy. Like, I'm just, I'm not, I'm just. I have to. So on the wall in the back, there's a big raised rowdy logo. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:40:32] Speaker A: So. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah, dude, we appreciate that. [00:40:34] Speaker A: Like, I just, I appreciate all you guys. And whenever I'd come up with this idea, like a while ago, and the guy who did my logo for the podcast is a dude that's over in. He's done stuff with co Wetzel, colder wall, a lot of people, but he's kind of hard to get in touch with. So, like, I pitched him this idea a year ago, and he's like, yeah, I'll get you some artwork and stuff done for it. And this hasn't came to be or anything. So this guy messaged me the other day and was like, showing me some stuff that he's done for another company that we work with. And I was like, dude, if you can bust this out, this is going to be the favorite thing that I've done. [00:41:12] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:41:12] Speaker A: And I'm telling you, like, I am excited. Trey's in it. Brian will cole. Riley Anderson. Of course. Dave McMahon. I mean, it's everybody. I love homies. Yeah, everybody. Cause, like, I'm still. And I know y'all are the same way. That's why I fuck with y'all. Cause there's a lot of people that ask me to do shit, and I won't do it. And I think that's why I like you. Either love me or you really don't like me. And it's not that I think anybody's doing anything bad if I don't work with them. It's just. It doesn't fit me. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:41] Speaker A: And I've learned that it's okay to tell somebody, hey, you're doing a good job, but it does not fit me. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:47] Speaker A: I'm not mixing. I'm not mixing with it. [00:41:48] Speaker B: Absolutely, bro. It's very important. [00:41:50] Speaker A: And the only reason why we are where we are is because of everybody that's got there. I wouldn't have great conversations if I didn't have, you know, people like y'all. I wouldn't be hooked up with live oak if it wasn't for Vaden. [00:42:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:05] Speaker A: And everything. Like, it's everybody. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:07] Speaker A: So, like, I feel like, man, I gotta do something to tip my hell. [00:42:10] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. We appreciate that. I'm excited to see it. [00:42:13] Speaker A: It's bad. [00:42:13] Speaker B: I'm very. [00:42:14] Speaker A: I can't wait if, like, I'm building it up in my head so bad right now. And if this dude fucks it up, I'm gonna be like, dude, Jesus Christ. I'm gonna have to bring back Michelangelo or something from the dead to do it. Like, if it can't be done, right? [00:42:26] Speaker B: Wild, dude. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Oh, shit. Hell, yeah, dude. I'm excited y'all got. And by the way, too, I love y'all doing the stuff at lasers. I can't ever go again. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. But you wanna. You wanna talk about that story? [00:42:39] Speaker A: I don't care. We can. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Because I was. I don't know the full specifics of that night because I was not present. [00:42:45] Speaker A: Well, first off, anybody at losers and management. I'm sorry. I love losers. I will never badmouth losers. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:54] Speaker A: I think that this is a complete misunderstanding. [00:42:56] Speaker B: That's what I think it is. [00:42:57] Speaker A: From what I also. You own a business. I'm not ever. I love losers. I'm not. I don't think that they do anything wrong. Was a jump call. I think, if you would have actually known the whole thing or saw the video that got posted before it got took down. So we went, this is last November. Me and Will Mosley. We got invited by somebody to go to a private party at losers. We went, having a great time. Cards on file. Post Malone's there. They didn't have a card on file, but it's post Malone. Like, I don't fucking blame them. Like, postman walks up, you know, he's got someone there to take care of it. Yeah, 100%. Like, fuck, he's paying his bill. Yeah, it's stupid to think he wouldn't pay his bill. And so I don't knock them for all that. All it was is when I went to cash out, theirs was right next to mine. There wasn't a card on file, and it got charged in my card. Not a big deal. Complete accident. It's an honest mistake. [00:43:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Any bartender in this town, me or you, would have made it. Like, yeah, they get it. It's no big deal. What was funny is the next day we're headed to an event in Alabama. And that was my business card, not my personal. So, like, I keep x in one account, x and other. And I went to go pay for gas the next day. And it's not like I keep a whole hell of a lot of money in that account. Oh, yeah, I guess fuck taxes. Like, anybody with Ir's, listen, this. Kiss my ass, too. So I don't keep a lot of money in that account, Matt. Yeah. And it got declined at, when I stopped to get gas. And I was like, duh. Fuck. Like, I know there was, there was enough money for a tank of gas and some more shit in there. [00:44:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:43] Speaker A: And so anyway, got declined. And I called my bank and there's like, this big ass charge from losers. And I was like, oh, no. I was like, uh uh. Like, I know I've ran up some bills there. I ain't never fussed about it before. I've paid them every time because I deserve to. Yeah, not this one. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Like, I know that me and my boys can drink. [00:45:03] Speaker A: Yeah, not this one. [00:45:04] Speaker B: So I call four digits. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Not close to it. I think I over exaggerated it when I made the video. I think I said it was like close to a thousand, but they didn't show what the tip was like. I just, I. But I. You would figure post my tip. Don't shit. Like, yeah, I think I over exaggerated when I said close to a thousand, but it was up there. It's fucking up there. And anyway, so I called and the GM for them could not have been nicer. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:33] Speaker A: He was so nice. He laughed about it. And so will was recording the conversation between me and him always on the phone. [00:45:42] Speaker B: Content. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:45:43] Speaker B: This is a funny misunderstanding of one of our favorite bars. [00:45:46] Speaker A: It's a funny misunderstanding. I love the bar. I'm a post Malone fan. And the way I've told everybody this, I don't know a single person in this town that's in this industry or whatever, that if you have a chance to post something that could connect with post Malone in a good way, in a good light, you're gonna do it. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:05] Speaker A: There's no one that's not shooting that shot. So I posted it and got attention. Whiskey, rift and everything. Picked it up and all this kind of stuff. But the whole time I said losers was wonderful. They took care of it right away. Yeah, but there's no one here that would not have made that content. And I'm looking back at it now. Somebody asked me other day, we'd like, since you can't go losers no more, you know, you feel bad about posting that video, like. No. Because if it would have got post Malone on my show, I would. I wouldn't gave a shit. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:35] Speaker A: And I still to this day, I ain't mad at them. You know, there's other bars to sell alcohol here. I mean, I'd rather go to losers. [00:46:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I'd rather. And we'd love to have. [00:46:45] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? I'd love to come to y'all stuff. Used to. I used to come to town a day early, dude. On Sunday nights, just when Justin Andrews would play there on Sunday nights. It was my favorite for some reason, to go from ten to two there. I'd make sure I was in town where I could go see that every time. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:03] Speaker A: And now it's like, okay, well, he's at the local. I'll go hang out with Jeff and him at the local. Or I'll go to damn live oak. [00:47:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:11] Speaker A: They'll let me do business with them. And. And that's the thing. I tried any situation to put myself in someone else's shoes. [00:47:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:20] Speaker A: I'm not mad at them whatsoever, but I also am not the person that's gonna. I'm not gonna make a bigger deal out of it than it has to be. [00:47:30] Speaker B: It was. It was a miss. [00:47:32] Speaker A: It's like, if they were cruel and they were hateful. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:34] Speaker A: I'd burn that motherfucker down. I got herpes at losers. Don't go in there. I'd say the worst shit. Somebody's got herpes from losers. [00:47:45] Speaker B: Somebody's got herpes from, I think, every. [00:47:46] Speaker A: Bar, every fucking bar everywhere. [00:47:48] Speaker B: Every bar. [00:47:48] Speaker A: But there's something special about that place. And I do love it. And I love that y'all do stuff there. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun. [00:47:54] Speaker A: And that's why, like, I would never bash. Yeah, it's one of the. But also, too, I'm not the one that's gonna ask for forgiveness in that situation. It's like, if they ever say, hey, it was a misunderstanding. Thank you for not bashing us or anything like that. Like, I'd come back in there tomorrow. [00:48:12] Speaker B: You'd bring all of the whole crew. [00:48:13] Speaker A: In there every time we came. We took fucking 1015 people in there with us whenever we went. [00:48:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:21] Speaker A: And now, like, you know, I've caught myself on Broadway a little bit more lately and I don't know why. [00:48:27] Speaker B: Where are your Broadway spots? Dude? [00:48:28] Speaker A: I like chiefs, AJ's and Chiefs. [00:48:30] Speaker B: I haven't been the chiefs. [00:48:31] Speaker A: Chiefs is different. Chiefs is, to me, is not a Broadway bar. You've been to the, like, the listening room at Florida mammal or whatever it is. Like a top one. [00:48:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So like that. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Yeah. So their middle room there is that. It's like somebody went to Flora Bama, saw that room and said, we're putting this shit right here. [00:48:51] Speaker B: No shit. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Fucking. I love how they have it. Like, literally they have the stage in the middle of the floor where you're completely surrounded on all sides. Piano. Everything is so cool. It looks like a seventies dive bar in there. But the bottom floor is where they have live music. Or they have live music there, too. But, like, full band. Yeah, on the bottom floor. And it's so cool looking, first off, but too, like, they've had the Reeves brothers in there a lot. Yeah, they've had, like, you know, they've had bands that are playing more traditional stuff. And that's what I also like about AJ's too, though, because they're like. [00:49:26] Speaker B: It's little, like a honky tonk. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's honky tonk type shit. Right. And it's cool. It's a really cool vibe in there. Like, I can deal. I can deal with Chiefs. [00:49:33] Speaker B: And I got to go and check it out. Especially because Aaron is a huge Eric church fan. Yeah, she signed up on the. She's on in the fan club and has probably seen him like ten or twelve times. [00:49:42] Speaker A: You walk into that bottom, she's gonna pass out. It's so cool the way that they designed that place. It's like, imagine a million vinyls, lopsided, stacked on each other. Floor, walls, ceiling. [00:49:56] Speaker B: Wow. [00:49:57] Speaker A: And then it's glossed over. So everywhere you look is an Eric church vinyl or a poster, like. But it's also too, like, a play on them. So, like, some of them, it might be the chief album, but they've done, like, some outrageous artwork. Oh. [00:50:12] Speaker B: So it stands out. That's cool. I like that. [00:50:14] Speaker A: And then they had this, like, a whole ass. You seen the, like, around a pool table, the lights that are up here? Yeah. All right, so they have one of those over the whole bar. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Wow. [00:50:24] Speaker A: And it's got chiefs on it, and it just looks like this old stained glass thing from cheers or some shit. Cool. They. And I got it. I gotta give them this cotton eye Joe's was there for I don't know how long. I don't. I've never. I don't know if I ever even went in the cotton. [00:50:40] Speaker B: I never went in there. [00:50:40] Speaker A: I don't. I don't think I ever have. But they took the neon sign from cotton Eye Joe's, and they put it behind the main stage. [00:50:48] Speaker B: Oh, cool. [00:50:49] Speaker A: And it's like. That's like. That's cool to me. It's like tipping your hat to history of the building. [00:50:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's like, if you go to whiskey row, the second floor, I don't know if it still does, but the second floor, the club level at whiskey row, I don't know if they still have it. But at one point, they had guitars hanging from the ceiling, because that building used to be the guitar store on Broadway. So it was like the homage to what was there before, because you have all those old historic buildings and shit, and it was always cool to see those guitars dangling from the ceiling because it was a guitar store. And, like, Luke Bryan's used to be a bank. I remember when that was a bank. You know? [00:51:32] Speaker A: A bank. [00:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah. They're print money. [00:51:35] Speaker A: They're making money. [00:51:37] Speaker B: How chaotic do you think it's going to be in a few weeks when Morgan's. Morgan's opens up? Oh, it's gonna be nuts. That. That, to me, is gonna be like, there's. [00:51:46] Speaker A: You know what? I'm excited about it, because I think it's gonna clear out everything else. It's gonna make everything else more manageable to go in. [00:51:53] Speaker B: That's kind of how I felt about barstool, because Barstool is the same crowd as the tin roof crowd and the tin roof line and crowd, which I'm. I'm not a regular. A regular at tin roof, but it's a cool spot, but it's not. It's not what it was since Barstool opened up. And now, as it used to be, you'd have, like, 1 bar a year opening up. That used to be kind of the thing when I first got in 2018. Now it's. You have multiple of these artist bars. You have. Fgl is turning in the Laney Wilson. That's going to be cool. Luke combs his place to the old wild horse. Like, you've got all these things opening up now, but I think it's gonna be crazy down there. [00:52:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think that no. No white woman is gonna go anywhere else. I think that they're gonna be in droves going in to his bar. [00:52:42] Speaker B: And the location of it. It's right behind whiskey row, near that old alley in between the Ryman. Like, it. It's. [00:52:49] Speaker A: It's gonna be rough. I'm telling you. I'm not going. No, I'm. There's gonna be nothing but fuck boys and just. Whoo. Girls. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:57] Speaker A: That's all that's gonna be there. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good. [00:52:59] Speaker A: It's gonna be good news. I would imagine though, too, because, see, like, I've changed my opinion on him so much. [00:53:04] Speaker B: How so? [00:53:06] Speaker A: I didn't know to whether if I liked him, like, to start off, and I don't have any idea. Never met the dude. I've shook his hand once at red Door. Not a conversation like ice. Nothing yet. I just. There's something about him like you. Because I'm older, right? So, like, I see somebody doing something, and I'm like, eh, would I done it that way? I started playing, like, that old man mentality or whatever, and then some of his stuff, he's like, that's not that country. Am I supposed to like this? And then I catch myself getting into that shit, dude. Right? Like, I like. I really like this. I think he's one of those. And I hate to admit this, he's one of those that no matter who it is, whether it's a 13 year old girl like my daughter or a 36 year old man like me, he's good. [00:53:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:51] Speaker A: He's somebody. I can take my daughter to a concert, and us both equally enjoy it. [00:53:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:57] Speaker A: And I think there's something really special about that, that it crosses a's barriers and it crosses. [00:54:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Even cynics like me, this traditionalist, is so good. Everything, like, I really. [00:54:08] Speaker B: It's generational. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it's good. It's something that we're gonna look back in ten years and be like, this dude had hits. He still got hit. [00:54:16] Speaker B: Just like we're doing right now with FGL. Ten years later, that first FGL record, I loved it. [00:54:20] Speaker A: That was my college. Me and Josh Phillips talked about this on the show the other day. I hate that you said that, because I agree. I 100% agree. [00:54:30] Speaker B: Fireball in 2013. We all drank fireball whiskey in 2013, 2014. And then it slowly started to go because it just. I don't think music was ready for where they were going. And now it's free for all anything goes kind of thing. No pun intended, with their. Their record. But, yeah, it's like, I just. And I feel like Wallin's an extension of that. [00:54:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:51] Speaker B: I think he comes from their. Their cloth. Like, that's the team. That's. If you look up the history of it, like, he was writing songs for those guys. Like, he was doing that, you know? [00:55:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's amazing to me because you're 100% right, but it's amazing how much I can dislike Florida, Georgia line. But how much I like Morgan Wallan. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:09] Speaker A: And you're right. [00:55:10] Speaker B: It's the evolution. [00:55:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just damn near the same thing. Yeah. I don't know. He's just cooler to me. He and it. And he's so unapologetic. I think that's where, like, some of the stuff I've heard all these people bitch and everything about the chair and stuff, like, first off, I think that was a setup anyway. [00:55:30] Speaker B: I don't think it was a setup set up because I think he's doing that shit anyway. I could happen any night. [00:55:36] Speaker A: I think it was publicity stunt. [00:55:38] Speaker B: I don't think so. [00:55:38] Speaker A: I do. I do. And I'll tell you why. We were there that weekend. We got in town on Sunday. It happened on Sunday. We were not at chiefs or whatever, but that bar opened up on Friday night. We went in there on Saturday, around Monday. We went over there Monday, the day after it happened or whatever. Right. And if you go in the elevator and there's a couple other places, there's where somebody has drew chairs on the wall. And it's not like it's part of the artwork, is what I'm saying. Like, it's not like somebody took a marker to the wall. [00:56:14] Speaker B: It was like a little Easter egg, kind of. [00:56:17] Speaker A: It's in the elevators. And I'm thinking because even, like, it came out that he was supposed to go to court on Friday and he didn't because that was on social media. I think it was a. I think it was a thing that acknowledged, oh, Morgan Wallins wild out, having a good time at chiefs and. And it's open now. Yeah. People pack. Yeah. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:38] Speaker A: I think that's what it was. [00:56:38] Speaker B: I can see it. See, I've just seen him do some crazy shit just having worked security in town and all that. And I first met him in 27, 2016, 2017 when he would come up do radio tour in Jersey. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:50] Speaker B: And I remember seeing him like, short hair, snap back, like flat brim hat like this. Like, I remember seeing that, that version. [00:56:57] Speaker A: He just seems like the top that more self inflicted punishment. Like, I can, there's something about him. Like some of the stuff I've seen, the drinking, all that other kind of shit. He seems like the kind of person that if he was going to do something that's more self inflicted than to throw a chair over a roof and potentially really harm somebody, it doesn't seem like he's the type of person that wants to hurt somebody. And I would imagine any adult, no matter how fucked up you were, would think, if I throw a 20 pound chair off a fucking roof and I don't know what's down there. Plus, nobody got hit, nobody got hurt. And a cop picked it up right away. Come on, that was, that was publicity, baby. It's great. It's great. Unless that some bitch gets a felony and he's got to go do 30 days in the clink is a fucking media. [00:57:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. Well, I guess we'll see, dude. And it's like, imagine the cameras were around and social media was around back when McGraw and Chesney were out partying. Tracy Lawrence and those nineties guys because they were doing wild shit too, dude. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Of course they were doing wild shit. They were manzilling the shit out of it. I know, that's why, like, I'm telling you, I'm, I'm not scared to be successful. Like, I have my doubts with it to where like, success does scare me, but at the same time it's like I've done my wild stuff. I'm getting to where now, like I'm not. I can turn it on, don't get me wrong. [00:58:11] Speaker B: Oh, I know, I've seen it, but. [00:58:13] Speaker A: Like, I'm not getting where I gotta turn it on all the time anymore. [00:58:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:16] Speaker A: And I'm learning when to turn it on better. Even from the first time I did the shows with you guys. Like, yeah, our shit, live Oak was wild as hell. [00:58:23] Speaker B: Dude, I was sitting there ripping a dab pain while you guys were drinking. Cuz I'm, I can't drink anymore. So it's like I was. I was elevating that joined in the degeneracy that was the early days of the Josh Terry shit show at Live Oak. Yeah. And it's come a long way, and I think it's more legitimate now because of the way you do it. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Well, that's the one thing I wanted. I'm so scared to be is a joke. Like. And I don't want it. Like, if I. Like, it's one thing if I make the joke and then I play along with it, but I don't ever want to be perceived as a joke. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:59] Speaker A: And I saw the potential in it because I think y'all are the same way I am. I think what Ward has done with whiskey jam is fucking amazing. [00:59:08] Speaker B: He's the Godfather. [00:59:08] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just like, I want to one day have something that is comparable. Like, I don't want to piss on y'all shoes or anybody else's shoes or ward shoes. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:20] Speaker A: But I feel like I'm not doing myself a justice. My daughter or anybody that's took time, effort, money, whatever, and put into this if I don't try to produce the best thing that I can. And I think me taking it more serious has made it better. It's made more artists want to work with us. [00:59:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And the. The caliber of. Of people, like, on the songwriter level and the artist level now, like, you're. You're in country music media. [00:59:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:49] Speaker B: You're in country music media. You're in. You're in small town. People want to get away from their problems and listen to something that they're going to find interesting, funny, or helpful. You're. You're in that lane. That's how we kind of describe it. Like, if you want to get a little Jerry Springer, you can do that. You can go whichever way you want to go. Your pillars are so far out where there's so much that fits in. But I would agree that, like, over the past few years of knowing you. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Like, well, I've always wanted it to be like I said, I don't want to. As much as I want country music to be a part of this, it's a part. It's not the whole thing. [01:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:23] Speaker A: And I do not want to focus on it. Just. I don't want me to do 20 shows a month, podcast 20 shows a month, and 19 of them be with an artist. [01:00:35] Speaker B: No, you can't. [01:00:36] Speaker A: I want it to be whatever that month. I don't want to put myself in a box where I say, I have to do ten with these with artists, ten with social media personalities, whatever. I want to put out what I think is the best content at the time, regardless who it is. [01:00:48] Speaker B: What I love is when you mix in, you'll have an artist, and you'll have a personality on it together. [01:00:53] Speaker A: I do it a lot. I don't know. Like, it's just so simple, but it's hard. But we both know people that ought to have huge social media followings, fan base, everything, because they're so talented, just can't catch a break because they suck at social media. They are horrible at it. Then you get some asshole like me that figures out, oh, we can have fun with social media, and it goes, good. Well, I'm. I'm not great at that, but I'm around people that are fucking great at social media, and it's like, you know what really works? I get content from this person and their point of view. I get my songwriter buddy that deserves to get acknowledgement. All I've got to do is put them together, control the conversation, and they're going to share their stuff. That's why I invite all these badass, onlyfans, girls, and social media personalities to our rounds, is so they'll share the artists on stage. And it works, people. And, like. [01:01:55] Speaker B: And then they love it because they love country music, and they're like, oh, my God, this is a song. This is a songwriter. This music's incredible. Like, and then they fall in love with it. They're thinking they're the ones making out like bandits because they're getting all that. They're getting to hang with all these artists and getting to watch the country music scene develop, and then these guys are like, holy shit, that's a. That's somebody with this huge following. So everybody's winning, Josh. [01:02:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it works, dude. And I don't know who could control the egos better than me. [01:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, you. [01:02:25] Speaker A: They listen to me, and I cannot tell you why. I think it's maybe because I'm a little bit older. I'm not. I'm not childish or anything, like. And I think that they realize, hey, he's done other stuff, like got some awards and radio, some other shit and all this kind of stuff, like, so maybe he does know what he's talking about. [01:02:44] Speaker B: I think it's the intention. [01:02:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:46] Speaker B: You want the best for anybody that is in your family, anyone that you believe in. And you talking about. We were talking about Riley Henderson's heart. You got a big one, too, brother. [01:02:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:02:56] Speaker B: You really do. And I think people recognize that. And that's one of the reasons Nick and I love you, dude. You're like our wild cousin that we look forward to seeing at Thanksgiving dinner. We want to play tackle football with in the backyard, have our mamas all yellow. [01:03:09] Speaker A: I'd like to see me and Nikki's fat ass playing tackle football, see which one gave out or tore ACL. [01:03:15] Speaker B: We used to do the kickball games, and Nikki came to a couple of the kickball games, and it was. It was. It was something. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it'd be something later out here for my dude. [01:03:23] Speaker B: Dude. Yeah, him. It would be, like, me, him, Trey Dawson Edwards Langley. Like, that whole. That old crew, and. And everybody just be. Ryan Nelson would be freaking out. Trey Bonner would have a shirt off. Like, it'd be wild, wild times. [01:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah, but see, like, even with you saying all those folks, those are like, y'all's folks. Those are y'all's family, right. And with us is the same thing that y'all have. It's success don't mean shit to us unless all of us succeed. [01:03:50] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. High tides raise all ships. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I want to root for you, because rooting for you is almost like rooting for me. [01:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that's how exactly how we feel. [01:03:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't sit here and validate myself all the time because I'm not that person. I'm not gonna sit here and say I think I'm the best podcaster out there because I don't think I'm good at what I do, and I can't do that. But when you hear people saying it about you and then you're doing the same thing towards them, you realize that their opinion of you is just as high as yours is of them. [01:04:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:22] Speaker A: That is the best fucking feeling to me. And that's just so good for your mental health, is so good for just your quality of life, to be around people that reinforce the idea that you are good enough. You are good enough. Whatever you're doing on the opposite side of that, we cut out toxic people like that as soon as it happens. And it's not even like some people have left our family, left our little group, but we still root for them. I still want them to succeed. I'm still proud of them. It's not that I have any ill feelings. It's just some shit works, some shit don't. I mean, it's that simple. Some people vibe, some people don't. And I'm learning more and more every day that I want to be around people that make me feel good about myself. And it's easy. It is always easy. You're not calling me with constant bullshit. You're not giving me anxiety all the fucking time or making your problems mine. I don't project my problems onto anyone. My problems are me. And especially in this stuff, you can take one person, they'll screw up a whole house. [01:05:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:27] Speaker A: They'll screw up a whole trip by just their attitude. Me and my daughter have a saying. Attitude is everything. [01:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [01:05:35] Speaker A: And she knows the example I'll give you is she used to bitch and fuss every time she'd get home from school and had to do the dishes, but she knew she had to do the dishes no matter what. So after us having a couple screaming matches a couple times or whatever, I said, I sat her down and I said, gracie, look, you know you're gonna have to do the dishes, right? There's no way of getting out of it. Would you rather us fuss and fight first because you don't want to do it and us cause a problem? Or would you rather just do the dishes and move on and be done with it to where there's not an issue? And so now, anytime she gets pissed off, anytime she gets frustrated with me, I want her to remember, and we say attitude is everything to each other. Want her to know, you're still gonna have to do this. Your outcome of you doing it, though, whether you get a reward, an ice cream, or whatever, you might get something if you just do your job and you do it with a smile on your face. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Amen. [01:06:26] Speaker A: Attitudes, everything. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Amen, brother. It really is. Well, dude, I appreciate the hell out of you. [01:06:31] Speaker A: You too. [01:06:32] Speaker B: Coming out here and doing this and. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Wouldn'T have done it with nobody else. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. And the. In the amount of shows and episodes that you crank out on a. How many are you doing a week now? [01:06:42] Speaker A: So I've been doing three, three to four a week. And I've been fumbling a little bit lately. [01:06:47] Speaker B: What, I'm at two now? I'm at two. I'm every Tuesday and every Friday. Nick is every Monday, and Nick and Kurt are every Monday and Wednesday. And we got the NASCAR boys. Their weekly kind of fluctuate. Same thing with all alternatives, every Thursday. And our music business, one that Payton's doing, is weekly. And we're growing it, dude. We're trying to figure it out. We've made big steps. [01:07:06] Speaker A: This is beautiful. [01:07:07] Speaker B: It's come a long way. [01:07:07] Speaker A: I love this. [01:07:08] Speaker B: And we're hanging. We're going to be hanging up. More shit. And we got, like, the creed limp Bizkit patches over there. Cigar box, mister t. I got my course, my Yankee bobbleheads. New York sports, who do you have right now? I got Ron Guidry and I got Garrett Cole, who's gonna be coming back in a couple weeks. [01:07:21] Speaker A: I didn't have any good ones. I mean, if you can at least have Yankees get, like, fucking ruth or get, I mean, this is our mantle. [01:07:32] Speaker B: Or somebody, but this guy's numbers. This is a retired, retired number. [01:07:35] Speaker A: Yankee Garrett Cole's the man. He's all right. [01:07:38] Speaker B: Cy Young last year. New York sports are on fire right now, dude. Like, you guys had it with, with Georgia, with the, with the Braves, and the dogs win the same year. We got the Knicks dominating right now. We got the Rangers dominating right now. We got the Yankees, like, right on the first place level, which I'm not even super focused on baseball quite. I mean, I am, but not, I. [01:07:55] Speaker A: Don'T get aimed at a baseball till about midsummer. [01:07:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Till trade deadline. [01:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, and that's when I'm getting. [01:08:01] Speaker B: And you're a Red Sox guy over a Braves guy. [01:08:03] Speaker A: I'll be real deal. I don't give fuck no more. I'm a players guy now. Baseball, football, everything. Like, I just. I'm definitely a Red Sox fan, but I've never been a Fenway. And I'm getting to the point now to where it's like, I feel like. [01:08:15] Speaker B: One of your, one of your followers or something can make that happen. Well, I've been out. [01:08:19] Speaker A: We've been invited so many times. [01:08:20] Speaker B: Yeah, you should take Gracie up and go. [01:08:23] Speaker A: I'm going to eventually. It's just something that haven't done. Like, this is gonna sound super fucking egotistical, what I'm about to say. I've got to the point to where I don't like doing stuff unless I'm not being invited or like a special guest or anything. But I like to do the behind the scenes stuff more than I actually like to do the event. [01:08:48] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:48] Speaker A: So, like, I want it to be where, like, my first trip, if this ever was to happen, going up there to be like, maybe somebody in the organization had listened to the show and liked something that I said and they would rather give us a history and a tour of, you know, behind the monster. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Get a tour of Fenway, and then do an episode with, like, a past. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Red Sox, like fucking Dustin Badroyer or. [01:09:13] Speaker B: Veritech or Mike Lowell or one of those guys on do it. Do a pod with them at one of the bars across the street, and I'm not even. [01:09:19] Speaker A: And I know I'm not close to that. Yeah. So. I'm not. [01:09:21] Speaker B: I think you are. You look like the team. You look like the Red Sox. Bearded dudes with tattoos. [01:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah. All of them did. [01:09:29] Speaker B: We got it. We got Alex Verdugo now. And he shaved. He shaved the beard. [01:09:34] Speaker A: They don't look like a dumbass now. [01:09:35] Speaker B: Oh, he looks great. [01:09:36] Speaker A: But, no, I just. The stuff that I do now, I just want it to be special, I guess, the way I'm saying it. And I'm not trying to be like, I'm better or whatever. It's just I've got to do stuff that a lot of people haven't got to do, same way y'all have. [01:09:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:52] Speaker A: And it's like, you realize that it's not necessarily you're getting special treatment that's special. It's the fact that they wanted to give you special treatment is what's kind of cool to me. So, like, even tomorrow night, going to the Grand Ole Opry and being backstage. [01:10:05] Speaker B: That'S gonna be so cool. [01:10:06] Speaker A: It, like, that's a dream. Like, that's. I can't. I'm gonna. [01:10:11] Speaker B: How did that happen? [01:10:12] Speaker A: John Paycheck. Johnny Paycheck, his son. I'm Johnny Paychecks, one of my top five, top three all time. I absolutely love Johnny Paycheck. And I told the story on the show about how, when we first time, I went to go see George Jones grave, Johnny Paycheck is buried real close to him. And Johnny Paycheck has this. It looks like a license plate where his grave is. And George Jones has a $500,000 marvel. Just beautiful, all this kind of stuff. And I had posted something about it on social media. And his son, who was in the military at the time, who just retired and is starting his music career now, he reached out to me, and we got to be buddies a little bit. And sometime last summer, he came and did a podcast with me. And ever since then, we've been buddies. We talk, we bullshit or whatever. And they're doing a tribute to Johnny Paycheck tomorrow night, the grand Ole Oprah. And he messaged me when he found out about it that he was invited, that he was gonna play a song or two and everything. And he's like, I really want to bring you this as my special guest. Let me see if I can get you those tickets or whatever to take you. And I was like, ain't gonna happen. Like. But thank you. Like, if you can get me where I'm backstage at Granite library. I'm gonna do some nasty shit to you. I'm liable to thank you, you know what I'm saying? And he messaged me, and he was like, I got him. Those. Will see you Thursday or whatever. And to me, I love all the guys I'm getting to know now, like, in country music, but there's a couple of guys that have passed on that are just. They are country music. [01:11:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:58] Speaker A: I don't know. No way to put it. They are my childhood listening to my dad, my grandfather, listening to these guys. [01:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:06] Speaker A: And that's where my love of country music comes from. And it's like, I fucking get to go to the grand Ole Opry on Johnny Paycheck tribute night with his son. Jamie Johnson's playing Chris Janssen, Georgetta Jones, which is George Jones's daughter. She's been on the podcast. Jesse, Keith Whitley, he's been on the show. They're all playing, and it's just like, I will have such impostorism syndrome tomorrow that I'm still gonna be like, they must want me take the trash out. [01:12:35] Speaker B: When this is over. [01:12:36] Speaker A: Like, what bathrooms I got to fucking clean, you know? Like, they just. They're confused. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:41] Speaker A: They think I'm the janitor. It's just getting to do that with him. [01:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:48] Speaker A: Is gonna mean more to me than just going to a ballgame anymore. Like, because I'm spoiled now. I know. I know that I'm spoiled. I want those moments, and I realize they're few far and in between. [01:12:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:58] Speaker A: But I'm kind of living for those moments, though. Like, that I might not be rich. I might not be making the money that I want to off of this shit. I'm living well. I'm comfortable and everything. I'm getting travel and do what I want. But like, that right there, that's my success. That, to me, that's worth more money than I could ever sign with a contract. We've been offered. The show's been, like, offered to be bought out, like, three or four times now by bigger studios, but same thing they want every time. They want creative control. Creative control, creative control. They want to lock me into five years, or I think three was most of them, three years out of a good rate. A good rate. But they get all advertisement money in that three years and everything. So I just get, like, a salary, and it's like, man, if I do this now and I give up creative control, there's no telling what's gonna be worth another couple years. Cause I'm real big on the people that I idolize. Absolutely remembering how long it took them on their journey. [01:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:55] Speaker A: If it took bunny, Joe Rogan, whoever, five, six years for their shit blew up, I'm just Josh Terry. It's going to take five or six years for my shit to blow up. I got. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Enjoyed the little victory exactly where we're at. Nick and I have been doing this full time together for a year, and the amount that it's grown in a year, doing it full time, it's like. Cause we've. We've. We've had that, too. You know, Nick. Nick had that back before I came along and. Yeah, it's like, why? Why not? You've already been going this far. [01:14:24] Speaker A: I took. [01:14:25] Speaker B: Keep it going. [01:14:25] Speaker A: I took. And this probably the only time he's ever been quiet in his life. But Ryan Nielsen, we did a podcast with him and Justin Andrews. Oh, boy. Like two, three months ago. I mean, Ryan Nelson did a podcast. Me and Justin Andrews, you know, we got a word in when we could. [01:14:41] Speaker B: Duvall. [01:14:42] Speaker A: Jesus Christ, that dude can talk. And he's so articulate. You would not look at him and. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Think he's one of the smartest genres. [01:14:48] Speaker A: Oh, my God, he's a genius. I hate him for that. I hate that he's smart and talented. But I told him something. I said, you got to remember, no matter who you are, if you're an artist. It took Stapleton 20 years, or it took him however long before we knew his name. Everybody here knew his name and they knew how great he was, but he still didn't break through. If that son, or even Cody Johnson, same thing with him, with all the stuff in Texas before he blew up. And it's like, we look up to these guys, we know we're not better than them, so their path is good enough for my path. Yeah, if it took them that long, it's gonna be. It's gonna take me that long. [01:15:24] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:15:25] Speaker A: And I'm fine with that. You gotta enjoy the little victories and, like, tomorrow night and some other stuff, even being here right now, it's a victory for me. Let me know that I'm on the right road, dude. [01:15:32] Speaker B: Hell yeah, dude. Well, man, I love the road that you're on. I love watching all the. All the stuff that is in the Josh Terry universe and love that you're doing is doing a great show and bringing a lot to this great city in Nashville. I look forward to our next collaboration to. [01:15:47] Speaker A: I know where you want to do it. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Like, I don't know if it's gonna be. We got to get Nikki to Macon at some point for a honky tonk for. I mean, I was there for the first one with Trey. [01:15:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a. Well, that was like, these are a little bit different now, but, like. Yeah, same thing. [01:16:04] Speaker B: I want to. [01:16:04] Speaker A: We. Third party. [01:16:06] Speaker B: It's a party in the hummingbird. Yeah, we're so. We want to. We want to get to something, and if you ever want to come to a festival with us and just hang. [01:16:13] Speaker A: I'm going to. I'm going to pick. [01:16:15] Speaker B: You pick which one, and we'll send you out with ike and a microphone, and we'll see what comes back and probably jail. [01:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah, probably a lot of wafers. Not everybody's wanting me to do this shit, and I will not do it. Everybody's wanting me. Either do it at Broadway or, like, walk around live oak and do it and do, like, the candid questions to somebody real quick and then get the response. And I'm like, you do not realize that is not how that's gonna go with me. Like, I'm gonna piss everyone off because they're gonna say something. I'm gonna be like, you fucking idiot. [01:16:46] Speaker B: That's why it's not gonna be funny. I want to bring you to one of our. [01:16:49] Speaker A: We could try it. [01:16:49] Speaker B: I want to do it in a festival where it's all the country, blue collar folks camping for a week, and that's what we need to do. So. [01:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah, they won't get offended. Too bad. [01:16:56] Speaker B: No, they won't. They want it all. Well, where do people go to find you if they're not following you? [01:17:00] Speaker A: My instagram is Jl Terry, 87. Just look at Josh Terry. I think our podcast covers our logo or whatever. Our picture on everything on Tick tock is Jl Terry, 1987 Facebook. Josh Terry. Just. I don't even not work in the social media world. I just don't really fucking care. I got. Just go look at the Josh Terry podcast on I heart radio, Apple, Spotify. Give it a review. Give it a, like, subscribe to it. That's what I'd rather you do. Yeah. [01:17:29] Speaker B: Hell, yeah, dude. [01:17:29] Speaker A: I can't tell how much appreciate this. It's called me. [01:17:31] Speaker B: We appreciate the hell out of you. Y'all be sure to check out our boy Josh Terry. He's got episodes coming out every week, and if you're ever in town when he's up here doing his thing over at Live Oak, you got to go check it out. So, my man, Josh Terry. I'm Matt Barrel, you'll be sure to follow on all the raise rowdy shit. Visit raise rowdy.com like rate subscribe, tell your mama and them and we will see you next time. This has been outside the round, y'all stay rowdy, folks. Hell yeah? I ain't never been the kind for still one place for too long? I ain't never been the best at sin? [01:18:07] Speaker A: I love you to a girl I love? Only got a couple tricks on my sleeve? They usually just make em leave? [01:18:16] Speaker B: So if you know me, if you really know me? You know I'm just a two trick pony? But maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show? I'm just a two drink on it?