Joe Bryson: Kitchen Sink Country, Louisiana Roots & The Power of Yes

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Come on. [00:00:15] Speaker B: This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill for Rage Rowdy Podcast. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Outside the Round today. One of my favorite guys coming up in the scene right now, I call him one of the kings of the underground, so to speak. Like, the folks that are playing events in town and folks that haven't gotten quite the industry attention as much as some other people in town, but someone that whenever you see him on a lineup, whether it's a writers round, it's a full band event, it's opening a show somewhere, he's someone that you got to go and see. It's my man, the not so average Joe Bryson. [00:00:51] Speaker C: Thank you, man. [00:00:52] Speaker B: And I got to ask about now, is it just a play on the words of, like, average Joe? Is that where the, the social media handles came from? [00:00:59] Speaker C: Dude, I, I, I don't know. I. It felt really, really basic to be, like, Joe Bryson music. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:05] Speaker C: Or whatever. Just, I wanted to do something different. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:09] Speaker C: And I don't know. And I was thinking about, like, Drake's Instagram name, as dumb as that sounds. It's like champagne popping. I'm like, all right, I can't do that. I'm not that cool like, anything like that. [00:01:21] Speaker B: It's like Action Bronson. [00:01:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:22] Speaker B: With the baklava. [00:01:23] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. I'm like, all right, let's do the average. I love the movie Dodgeball. Oh, bro. Yeah. It's so good. Like, Average Joe Bryson. Why not? Yeah, man, I love that. [00:01:34] Speaker B: Dude, tell me what Kitchen sink country means to you. [00:01:38] Speaker C: Oh, dude, it's just everything but the kitchen sink. It's just my music sound like I have so many different influences when it comes to music, and I think that's kind of the best. And somehow it fits into this country realm, so I just kind of land on, like, everything but the kitchen sink. Kitchen sink country. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. [00:02:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:03] Speaker B: And I love that because when people ask, so what is. What do you classify this Joe Bryson kid as? I'm like, just good music. [00:02:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:10] Speaker B: That's what I say. It's good music, and it just rips live. Like your live show and you're up there with the band is unlike anything else. We love having you on rounds, too, but you. Full band at Odie's or full band over at Whiskey Jam or Bus Call or wherever in town. [00:02:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:26] Speaker A: It's. [00:02:26] Speaker B: It, it hits different, man. Like, I can just see how much fun you have on stage, performing in front of people. [00:02:32] Speaker C: Really and truly, like, every time. I appreciate you saying that we work really, really hard on the live act. And I want it to feel that way. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:43] Speaker C: Like, I want it to be like one cohesive, put together show that you can tell that we spent time on. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:50] Speaker C: So I appreciate you saying that, man. But, yeah, dude, I mean, I'm inspired by so much of it. Like, one of my favorite bands of all time is Soundgarden. But then, like, also, I'm the biggest Eric Church fan there is. And it's just kind of like a derivative of all of that, plus, like, the South Louisiana influence and growing up down there. So it's just kind of. I don't know, man. Kitchen sink country. [00:03:18] Speaker B: Yeah. How old were you when you started performing? Like, when did music start for? I know you moved up here, like, around the pandemic time. 20, 20. [00:03:27] Speaker C: Little. Little, man. When I. When I first started singing around Louisiana, I was little. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Little? What's little? [00:03:35] Speaker C: Little, like four or five. Oh, wow. Yeah. Like, I remember we put on. My family put on, like, a neighborhood talent show, and no one had. All my sisters and my brother, like, they all had, like, their own thing, you know? And I was like, I guess I'll just sing. I'll give it a go. And I had just learned three Dog night. Jeremiah was a bullfrog. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:59] Speaker C: And I was like, let's rip. Let's just go sing. And, like, I didn't even really know I could sing. And my mom was like, oh, shoot. I guess we should put them in voice lessons and see what happens. And then. Yeah, man. I started, you know, doing the. The Mexican. I call it, like, the. The Mexican restaurant circle. [00:04:18] Speaker B: That is such a thing in the south, dude. Bro, it's the best. [00:04:23] Speaker C: That is truly, like, the. I mean, I guess I'm still in, like, the cutting my teeth days of it, but, like, looking back, like, that was so dang fun and, like, the best experience, like, really and truly. And yeah, like, by the time I was in middle school, I'd put together a band, and it was so funny, man. So, like, we were in. I think I was in fifth or sixth grade. [00:04:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:51] Speaker C: And we all played, like, middle school football. And the middle school football practice was, like, later in the day. And so we would have band rehearsals every Wednesday, and we'd all show up, like, in our football pads just, like, ready to roll. And we were trying to come up with a band name. And someone was like, what about first and 10? I was like, it's kind of looking back at, like, a middle school. That's a pretty tough name. [00:05:18] Speaker B: Y'. All are coming. [00:05:19] Speaker C: That's a pretty cool name. [00:05:20] Speaker B: And you're coming in your pad. Exactly. [00:05:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:05:23] Speaker B: So fitting. [00:05:24] Speaker C: Yeah. And then we would. We covered every single Leonard Skynyrd song. We're basically Leonard Skynyrd cover band. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:30] Speaker C: And we played every single Mexican restaurant from Lafayette to Baton Rouge, probably. [00:05:36] Speaker B: Wow. [00:05:36] Speaker C: Yeah. It was so fun, but. And my poor parents, God bless them, would just drive us all over the state, dude. [00:05:41] Speaker B: But that. It's important to have that support system of your parents, your buddies, parents that are like, you know what? Let's let the boys do their thing. There's way worse things that you guys could have. And I'm sure you did spend time sitting, playing video games like every kid does. [00:05:54] Speaker C: Sure. [00:05:54] Speaker B: But you could. But. Yeah, Exactly. Yeah. Same 2K, Madden, NCAA. The classics, man. But getting out there and getting that experience so young and getting to be a part of a band. [00:06:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:07] Speaker B: In your formative years. [00:06:08] Speaker C: I was talking to the. The drummer of that band, like, when we were in middle school, whatever. And I think almost all of us are doing music in some really, like, full time. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Any of those other guys make it up to Nashville or. They're back. [00:06:21] Speaker C: They're all kind of doing their own thing, actually, man. Yeah. We all kind of ended up in, like, different landscapes of the music industry. And I was like, how cool is that? You know, like, to think. And funny enough, man. Like, we had, like, a mentor who was kind of like our band coach for all of those practices and stuff we would go to. And he. On the record that I just put out earlier this year, he. I didn't even ask for him or anything. It was just like a total holy spirit God thing. The producer ended up booking him as the bass player to do all the session work on that thing. [00:06:56] Speaker B: Wow. [00:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:57] Speaker C: I was like, oh, my gosh, what a full circle moment. So. Yeah. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I want to get into the King's Court and that record and this being a big year for you in terms of releases, so. Talk about the process of getting that thing out there earlier this year. [00:07:11] Speaker C: Yeah, man. So, yeah, we recorded that whole record in, I think, like, three days. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Wow. That's not a lot of time to sandwich a whole record in. [00:07:21] Speaker C: We did. I mean, it's nine songs, which I think is the perfect. Yeah. Number for record. But, yeah, we did three songs in three days. And. Yeah, man, we recorded the whole thing in South Louisiana, actually, at a little. A little studio called Dockside. [00:07:37] Speaker B: Nice. [00:07:37] Speaker C: Middle of nowhere. Like, you'd have to be looking for it. But yeah, man, they've had some legends kind of come in and out of there. Like Eric Clapton's recorded there. B.B. king. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Wow. [00:07:50] Speaker C: Thomas. Yeah. And, like, nobody knows about it. Yeah. And it's on the Vermilion river in Lafayette, Louisiana. And, man, like, I just wanted something that was so completely raw and completely authentic. And I had known the producer a little bit, who's kind of the day to day guy over there. And I brought some guys from my band down. He ended up booking some local session players and a couple guys from New Orleans for the whole thing. And, like, they just truly nailed it. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:24] Speaker C: Like, the south Louisiana thing. And just understood everything I was really trying to do. But yeah, man, I'm super proud of the way that record turned out. Hey, man. [00:08:34] Speaker B: And you're the latest in a long line of historical state that is Louisiana. And when I think of Louisiana in terms of country music, two people that really come to mind, of course, Lainey Wilson doing what she's doing right now. And then one of the guys that doesn't get the love and appreciation that he deserves in Frank Foster. [00:08:51] Speaker C: Oh, do you, [00:08:54] Speaker B: bro? [00:08:55] Speaker C: I mean, the best. [00:08:56] Speaker B: I mean, when I first moved to town, I was. I went on a run of shows with my buddy Ethan Willis, who was doing. He was from Mississippi, and him and I were roommates at the time, and we did some opening slots for Frank Foster in, like, West Tennessee and North Mississippi. [00:09:09] Speaker C: He's the best. [00:09:10] Speaker B: And watching a live Frank Foster show, this was like 2018, 2019. I was from New York. I'm a huge country music fan. I honestly, I was ignorant to not know anything about him. And I watched his live show and [00:09:23] Speaker C: I'm like, what is this a totally different thing, dude? Like, there's such a. A crazy pool of talent down there that's just. They've been doing it forever. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:34] Speaker C: And still, like, Wayne Toups. [00:09:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:35] Speaker C: Another one. I'm like, what a freaking talent, man. And I'm just so blessed. Like, Travis Mott's another one that comes to mind. And like, Mark Broussard, who've just been, like, crushing for forever. And I feel I'm obviously a little biased, but, like, they just don't get the attention they deserve to me. Yeah. You know, so. Yeah, man. It's crazy. Frank Foster, good pool. [00:09:59] Speaker B: Well, what was your first time like? Did you grow up going to shows? Yeah, there's a lot of. Lot of concerts. And when I think of Lafayette, I remember going down there. I think the place was called Cowboys. Oh, yeah, I went down there, I did a show. I Did a show there with. Back when I was working with Trey Lewis, we had. We had. We headlined down there. Justin Champagne came out and kicked it with us. It was a wild night. [00:10:19] Speaker C: I played Cowboys with Clay Cormier. [00:10:21] Speaker B: Oh, I know Clay. [00:10:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Clay and I used to play shows together. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:10:26] Speaker C: Yeah. And we played. This had to be, like, right after Covid. We did a show in New Orleans and a show in. In Lafayette at Cowboys and. Dude, I don't think I've ever been to Cowboys and not seen a fight. It's crazy, man. [00:10:43] Speaker B: It's coon ass. [00:10:44] Speaker C: Yes. I think they just shut down, too, unfortunately. [00:10:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I remember with. I remember going in there and it being a Sigs inside. Honky tonk. [00:10:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:53] Speaker B: And Lafayette. [00:10:54] Speaker C: Yeah, dude. It's a special place. It's a very special place. We. The first. The first show I really remember of being like, what. What is this music? It's so cool. Was, I think, the Rice Festival, Crowley, Louisiana. A really, really small little town. My grandparents are from a little town called Mermental, Louisiana, and Crowley's not too far from it. And so every summer they used to take us to the Rice Festival in Crowley. And I can't remember, it might have been Travis Mott or. Yeah. Playing at that, but. And I had to be four or five, so. Yeah. A while ago. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:38] Speaker C: Yeah. I just remember being like, God, this music's so freaking cool. But just the culture down there in general, man, it's. Every day is a party. [00:11:46] Speaker B: You all have the best gas station food in the world. You go to a gas station and you get you some duck tacos. [00:11:51] Speaker C: You can't go wrong. Duck tacos. [00:11:53] Speaker B: Duck tacos at a gas station on a back road in Louisiana. [00:11:58] Speaker C: I'm like, dude, the. The. The buda. You can't go wrong, man. Anywhere you go, it's going to be the best Buddha you ever got in your whole. Like, you go to any gas station down I10 and gain £10 easy, and it'd be 100% worth it. [00:12:11] Speaker B: And I got to go down there. Right before the pandemic, when I was working with the Muscadine Bloodline guys, we did a show at a place called Live Oaks in Monroe, Louisiana. And it was. And that was March, February of 2020, right before the pandemic hit. So it was still. It was crawfish season, and we ate so much crawfish. [00:12:29] Speaker C: What didn't fill you up, man? Like, that's one of my favorite things about crawfish. You just can sit there all Day. [00:12:34] Speaker B: It's an all day thing. [00:12:35] Speaker C: It's an all day thing. Until you drink. Until. Or you. Sorry, you eat until you drink too much. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:41] Speaker C: That's what I. [00:12:42] Speaker B: You get that Jumbalaya. [00:12:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker C: Need you fill up on beer eating crawfish. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:47] Speaker C: What tends to happen. But. Yeah. [00:12:48] Speaker B: Dude, and I want to talk what you were talking about. Your. You're the moment of the full circle of your. Your early mentor playing bass on. On the Record and that kind of being like a full circle, like man upstairs kind of thing and moment. [00:13:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker B: You're a cancer survivor and you went through a lot of stuff before you even made the jump here to Nashville. [00:13:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Like, you're kind of talk about your story of that happening before the pandemic and then getting the guts to move up here after that. [00:13:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Um. Dude, as far as cancer goes, like, I love to say I got off so easy. Like, it could have been so much worse. I see what other people have gone through and are still going through, like with cancer and stuff, and I. I got off easy, genuinely. So I had. It started in my thyroid and then spread to all the lymph nodes in my neck right here. And they had to do like a. I don't care, like a six hour surgery or something like that. And they removed the whole thyroid and all the lymph nodes that I spread to. But there was never like a huge risk of dying or anything. Like, they caught it really early and I was real healthy. And that's also like a very treatable cancer. But the biggest risk was there. Like, you're gonna be under the knife with your neck exposed for a really long time. You might not be able to sing. [00:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, those are the muscles that you need for what you're dream. [00:14:15] Speaker C: And it was like a full dissection, dude. And. Yeah, man. So I had to do about two years of treatment and I had to do like. It's called radioactive iodine. It's nothing crazy. Like, you just get a little sick if that. And then. Yeah, I had to do like two years of that. And by the time 2020 rolled around, they gave me the green light and I was like, I'm moving to Nashville immediately. And in the weirdest way, like, cancer. Having had cancer has been like the biggest blessing because it's just like I. It's given me so much perspective. [00:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:56] Speaker C: On things, man. And just like. Like, life is so short. Life is so short, and we only get one chance at it. And what are we going to do with our time here is the other thing. And it's just. It's easy to take for granted, and [00:15:12] Speaker B: I feel like that perspective is something that is crossed over into your songwriting in a pretty big way. [00:15:17] Speaker C: Yeah, man. I try to thank you for saying that, like, you. [00:15:20] Speaker B: You can hear the realness and the authenticity and your journey, and you're speaking to other people that have gone through hardships. Like, it. It resonates with folks when we listen to your music. [00:15:29] Speaker C: Thank you, man. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's really all I want to do. Yeah, man, it's. I write about what I know, and so that's. It's just kind of what comes really naturally to me. But, yeah, man, I don't know that I would even. It's such a weird thing to say. Like, I don't know if I would be here without having had cancer. So. Yeah, it was like a kick in the ass. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Almost like a kick in the ass or like God's plan. [00:15:59] Speaker C: Yes, exactly. [00:16:00] Speaker B: He put you through that and kept you on here. Because I know it says on here with stage three. It could have been. Yeah, it could have been a terminal thing, and you could have. You could have been gone at. What were you at that time, 19, 20 years old? [00:16:13] Speaker C: 18 when I got diagnosed and 20 when I got, like, the green light. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So it could have taken. You could have been taken away at 20 years. And now here you are, here you are six years later, and you're releasing music, you're playing shows. You're making a difference in people's lives with. [00:16:31] Speaker C: That's. [00:16:31] Speaker B: With your art and your creativity, man. Like, seriously, it. It has that feeling toward. It is that motivator where, like you said, life is short. Like, you got to go after. You want to do something, you got to get out there and do it. [00:16:42] Speaker C: Life's too short, man. And chase it, chase it, man. Like, what do you love? What do you want to do? We only get one chance at it, man. So. Yeah, that's. That's kind of all. I. I don't know. I don't want to get on my cancer high horse. I know, I know. [00:16:57] Speaker B: Well, I'm not trying to get you on. No, I'm a cancer high horse, but it's a part of your story, brother. [00:17:02] Speaker C: No, I know, man. I know, and I appreciate you. [00:17:04] Speaker B: And you've. And you've made a big impact here in town and, like, built a crew and become a part of other folks cruise. Like, someone that comes to mind is a dear Mutual friend to both of us. Miss Brooklyn. [00:17:14] Speaker C: Yes. [00:17:14] Speaker B: You know, and, like, finding. Finding other, like, badass songwriter, musician, artists. And talk about your friendship with her a little bit. [00:17:24] Speaker C: She's the best, man. So we're both signed at Spirit Music Group in town. She was my first. Right. Really Funny enough. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Wow. [00:17:33] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think she had been there for, like, two years or so by the time we had started writing together. And this would have been. Shoot, I guess, like, March of last year. Yeah. And she was already doing her thing, man. She was crushing. But it was so cool. Like, so I came from a gig at. This was my first ride at Spirit. I came from a gig at Rippy's downtown. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:03] Speaker C: Straight to my right at Spirit. And Brooke just started telling me her story. She's like, I. Like, I was cutting my teeth on Broadway. And she's like, I'm so inspired by, like, you know, and I'm like, I'm inspired by you and, like, you just being here and just at a creative level, we. We clicked immediately and just both understood exactly what one another was trying to say. Like, we still write very regularly. Yeah. This day, like, for that reason, man. And she's just become a Dear homie. Genuinely. Yeah. So, yeah, man. What a talent. My God. So easy to root for. [00:18:37] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Seriously, talk about the. The reps on Broadway. And you say Rippy, so I assume that means Tootsies was thrown in there and Honky Tonk was thrown in there. Like, you were on that circuit, bro. [00:18:49] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I did it all. I did Rippy's. Literally everyone. Every bar up and down the Strip. I've probably played, like, at least once or twice. And, like, I was never, like, the Broadway guy. Like, I only really did acoustic stuff. Like, I know so many people, but [00:19:06] Speaker B: it pays your bills, and you get. You get reps of playing in front of people. And talk about a hard crowd to win over, bro. Talk about you haven't lived until you've played Rippy's side room. Rippy's side room. Luke Bryant at 11am Luke Bryan's rooftop for all the people that are hungover up there by the sushi bar, bro. Like, but it's. [00:19:28] Speaker C: You need that. Yeah. It makes you appreciate the big wins so much more, you know, and just. Yeah, it goes back to the gratitude thing. And then at the end of the day, man, like, you're still playing music for a living. [00:19:41] Speaker B: It's not that you're getting paid to play exactly. [00:19:43] Speaker C: You're getting paid to, like, drink beer and sing songs. It's not. It's not that bad. At the end of the day, what [00:19:49] Speaker B: were your go to covers on? Like, say an 11am set? You were out a little bit late the night before. You're playing for folks that are also a little hungover. Like, what. How are you starting at 11 o'? Clock? Rippy side room acoustics. [00:20:01] Speaker C: My favorite thing to do is. So I'll start them off well and like, if. If they were, I'll throw out like Stapleton and like, like Childers and like, stuff I enjoy that they would probably also enjoy too. And then I would start, like, be like, hey, like, come throw some requests around, whatever. And then like, if I went through a few rounds of doing that and had no response, I'd be like, all right, fine. I'm just gonna play whatever I want. And so I'd whip out like a Jason Ispel deep cut or something crazy, and it'd be like, fine, we'll tip this guy to play something that we know. And I'm like, it worked. It worked. It was kind of a good strategy, looking back. But yeah, man, we. We played all of the. The Broadway classics. So what are. [00:20:49] Speaker B: What are some of those? Because I used to work on Broadway. I don't know if we've talked about this. I was a security guy down. I didn't know about a year. Yeah. At Dirk Spentley's Whiskey Row. I was a. I was. I was a door. I was a door guy there when it first opened in from Hollow. My first shift was Halloween weekend of 2018. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Holy. [00:21:07] Speaker B: And then I was there through September of 19. So I was there about. Easier working the door. NFL Draft, CMA Fest. Yeah, I was there, bro. [00:21:15] Speaker C: You were in the trenches. [00:21:16] Speaker B: I was in the trenches, bro. [00:21:18] Speaker C: We did. I'm 10. I could probably play Tennessee Whiskey in my sleep. [00:21:22] Speaker B: I think probably like three or four different ways. [00:21:25] Speaker C: For sure. Feathered Indians was another one. Yeah. Neon Moon classic. All the ones that are relatively easy to play. I've now that I think. [00:21:35] Speaker B: Did you ever get one of those crazy $100 requests and when you did a full band thing down there, or was it almost all acoustic? [00:21:40] Speaker C: It was almost all. I mean, I. I could probably count on one hand the amount of times I did a full band Broadway thing on. I really. I tried not to. I really made an effort not to do it. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Did you ever get that. That Free Bird or that Wagon Wheel? [00:21:53] Speaker C: Wagon Wheel, Yeah. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Do you ever get even acoustic? [00:21:55] Speaker C: I'd be like, all right. For Wagon Wheel. Yeah, it's going to be a Hundred dollars. So sorry. [00:21:59] Speaker B: What's the other one? Devil Went down to Georgia. [00:22:00] Speaker C: If you got a F, I would just say no. I'm like. I'm not like. [00:22:04] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Did you ever get the ddid? [00:22:07] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. A few times. I've. No, There was someone who tipped 100 for that. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:22:13] Speaker B: Trey has always joked with us. [00:22:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:15] Speaker B: Or with. With, like, our crew being like. Because Trey came up as a cover band artist. He's like, man, I'm just happy that folks are making money playing my stuff, playing my song at Rippy's or Whiskey Row on a freaking Saturday night. [00:22:28] Speaker C: You know? He's been playing downtown every so. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I know. He loves to play. [00:22:33] Speaker C: Dude was playing with him the other day, and I was like, down at. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Down at AJ's. [00:22:36] Speaker C: It was. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Or Layla's. AJ's. And then he does the. The Distiller, the Big Machine distillery down there. [00:22:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:46] Speaker C: A buddy of mine, Addison Simmons, was [00:22:48] Speaker B: like, yeah, I love. Said he's Addison's badass, man. I love what the bank shafts, right? [00:22:54] Speaker C: Ain't good, man. Yeah, he's one of my favorite, like, bluegrass pickers. [00:22:58] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. [00:22:58] Speaker C: In the world, man. But, yeah, it's crazy, man. [00:23:02] Speaker B: It's wild. [00:23:02] Speaker C: Broadway. Yeah, man. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Are you still. Do you still go down there very [00:23:06] Speaker C: much or every show often? I'll do it a few times a month for some. Some cash. [00:23:11] Speaker B: It helps the offseason. It helps in the off season, like in the winter months. [00:23:15] Speaker C: That. [00:23:15] Speaker B: That helps get you through, man. [00:23:17] Speaker C: Yeah. It's nice to not have to completely rely on now, though, you know? [00:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. Absolutely, dude. It. It definitely is very blessed. Talk to me about some of your. Some of your bigger songs that are out there, like Blue Bloody Nails, Wild Magnolia. Like, it's got to be cool to see some numbers going up on some of these songs, bro. [00:23:35] Speaker C: It's. It's so rewarding. Just. It's. How do I say this? It's so rewarding to just write stuff that I genuinely love, and it is very authentic and true to who I am and for other people to resonate with that. Like, that's. That's probably the. The coolest feeling I get from it. Like, it's like Bloody Nails is just this, like, raw. I just wrote it about, like, my relationship with Jesus. I'm like, I love Jesus, you know, That's. It's the most important thing in my life. But it's hard, you know? Like, being a Christian is not easy, no way. All the time. So I'm like, let's write a song about it. I wrote that with Jasper, a buddy of mine. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Oh, Jasper Charles. [00:24:19] Speaker C: Yeah, man. We wrote that together. [00:24:21] Speaker B: He's been crushing it, bro. Getting cuts, man. [00:24:24] Speaker C: He's such a good buddy. But, yeah, we wrote that song that was like, literally a 15, 20 minute. Like, we brought in. We both had similar ideas, and he had. I think he had that, like, really cool riff, and we just started going, and it was, like, done in 15, 20 minutes. Wow. And, yeah, man, we didn't really know if people would resonate with it or. Or what, but I was like, I love it. I'm doing it. Yeah. And, yeah, man. And sure enough, people have. And it's been the coolest thing. Like, the comments on Tick Tock are what get me. It's like, I've been waiting on a song like this. Whatever describes me to a T. And I'm like, me too. That's exactly why I'm doing it. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:04] Speaker C: Thank you for saying that. But, yeah, man, it's. It's just been awesome. So. [00:25:09] Speaker B: That's great, man. And then your latest release. Got that right. [00:25:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:13] Speaker B: So talk about that one and why that. Why that was put out after the record and not on the record. Yeah, just when it was written after those songs had been recorded kind of thing. [00:25:22] Speaker C: It was written after the record. And, yeah. Similar vibe. We kind of wanted to find a new way to say it, I guess, and a little bit more. And tie in some more Louisiana aspects of it, I guess, as well. And. Yeah, man, that was another one. We kind of really crapped that song out very quick, which. I love that. I think that's just a testament to the song being in the room that day. And just the chemistry with the songwriters and everything. And that was with Neil Mason, Justin Halpin and Kale Dodds. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Now Neil is member of the Cadillac 3, right? [00:26:02] Speaker C: Yep. [00:26:02] Speaker B: He's come out and he's. He's someone like, you can kind of notice when you've had. When we've had folks playing the events, you can kind of see, like, who's in the crowd. And, like, it seems like every time we play. [00:26:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:12] Speaker B: Neil comes out and watches you. [00:26:14] Speaker C: He's just become. [00:26:15] Speaker B: And you're someone that rocks it on stage, and you can hear, like, that you grew up listening to Cadillac 3 and probably the early Cadillac Black stuff. What's it like having a. Having a guy that you've looked up to kind of in your corner now as. As a friend and as a co writer? [00:26:30] Speaker C: I mean, what. What a. What a Blessing, like, truly. [00:26:33] Speaker B: What. [00:26:34] Speaker C: What a gift, bro. [00:26:35] Speaker B: The amount of noise that those three made. [00:26:37] Speaker C: Dude, I'm. I couldn't rant enough about the Cadillac 3. Like, bro, I grew up on that. And like, in a time when, like, I didn't necessarily love country music. And then I found them, like, what is this? Thank God. I didn't know people were still doing this. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Hit it with Tennessee Mojo on that first project down by the River. [00:26:59] Speaker C: Was that the Legacy? [00:27:01] Speaker B: So there was a Legacy record, then there was the self titled Cadillac. Yeah, it was Cadillac Black. And then they. Then they switched over to Cadillac 3. [00:27:08] Speaker C: And were they. Were they American, Bang American or Bang Bang Bang? [00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. I'm gonna have to look that up because I remember going Cadillac 3, they're one of. They're one of the OG like raised Rowdy acts. Like Nick and his friends back in the early days of Raise Rowdy, they used to follow. Like. Yeah, Nick would say that he used to chase Cadillac three shows. So what that would mean is Nick would leave from Pittsburgh on a Wednesday, go to wherever Cadillac 3 was playing in like western Pennsylvania or eastern Ohio. [00:27:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:37] Speaker B: And then him and his friends would go from show, like, follow them on the whole run across like three or four states. [00:27:42] Speaker C: But like for the Cadillac 3, that's so. [00:27:44] Speaker B: Yeah, bro. For Cadillac 3. Nick, you. Nick was a member of the fan club, like, but like so well deserved, man. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Their first. Their first record. So there was the self titled the Cadillac Three. Came out in 2011. Legacy. Came out Legacy in 2017, Country Fuzz in 2020. And then Bury. Bury Me in My Boots. Bury Me in my boots in 2016. That had like slide drunk like you, Graffiti buzzing party like you, bro. White Lightning was on that record. [00:28:12] Speaker C: And then their. Their last record. I was such a fan. When you're young and hungry and you got no dude. [00:28:18] Speaker B: I was like, yep, the years go. [00:28:19] Speaker C: I don't know how that didn't blow up. [00:28:22] Speaker B: But anyway, yeah, my introduction to them was at a festival in upstate New York. It used to be Taste of Country. Used to do a festival. Town Square Media put it on and they did it at like the. It was like on the, like the stage was at the bottom of this mountain and the crowd would be going up the mountain and there'd be like ski lifts and stuff. I remember watching them early in the day and just being like, oh my God, bro. Yeah. Because that first had like, I'm Southern. Back it up. [00:28:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Days of Gold, the original, their version of Days of Gold before Jake Owen cut it. [00:28:53] Speaker C: Yep. It's so cool. And then you. You go see like, dude, I'm sorry. [00:28:56] Speaker B: I could go for it. Let's talk about. [00:28:58] Speaker C: You go like, you go check out Jiren's cuts. And you're like, holy crap. This is also all of my childhood. And you're like, holy. These guys were the soundtrack to my life. Literally. They the coolest thing in the world, [00:29:13] Speaker B: helped formulate the era that kind of was, I would say, like probably where the scene was like two or three spots before where we're at right now. Like, like 20, like 2010 to like 2018. [00:29:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Jiren and Neil. [00:29:28] Speaker C: Sunshine and Whiskey with Frankie Bow, like all that stuff. [00:29:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Jiren, Neil and Kelby, they had their. They had their fingers on the pulse of the scene at that time, bro. [00:29:39] Speaker C: Yeah. And so I can nerd out about all that. Oh, let's do it, bro. [00:29:44] Speaker B: I could nerd out about him too, bro. [00:29:45] Speaker C: I'm just a fan, man. Like genuinely. So, like, yeah. Getting to write with Neil, like, he's become a super regular co writer and like we just. I literally just text him funny enough. But like, we just meet and chat about, like just to bounce ideas off of him and like, I'll get advice from him about what to do, what not to do, you know, what not [00:30:04] Speaker B: to do is huge. [00:30:05] Speaker C: Yep. Yeah, dude. Yeah. [00:30:07] Speaker B: You can have an OG tell you what not to do because they've done it all. You can't put a price on that. [00:30:12] Speaker C: Yes. And I'm just beyond blessed to have that. And then the whole spirit team as a whole, it's just been awesome, man. So just truly the greatest support system. Yeah. [00:30:23] Speaker B: And then you mentioned Eric Church. I just got to see him headline. We were a part of a festival in Indiana called Boots on the Bend Night one Hardy headline. Brandon Lake was direct support, which that was a really cool combo. I'd never seen somebody take over a crowd. Like, I'd never been to a worship like CCM style show. [00:30:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:40] Speaker B: And watching a crowd of like 10 to 12, 000 people just all with their hands in the air. And Brandon up there preaching was so cool. [00:30:48] Speaker C: That's so cool, man. [00:30:49] Speaker B: And then the next day was Eric Church headlining with Flatland and Ashley McBride in front of him, which was awesome, man. But talk about the influence of a guy like Eric Church, man. [00:31:00] Speaker C: I just one is songwriting alone. Um, it's so uniquely him. But also it still works. It's not like totally in a Bob Dylan world to where like nothing is makes sense, but it's It's. It's so poetic at the same time, and I just love that, man. And then he's also got a bunch of tracks that are super vulnerable and others that are way more just rocking, slamming, in your face. And I would just resonate with that so much. Like, that Desperate man record is one [00:31:34] Speaker B: of my absolute favorite from top to bottom. [00:31:37] Speaker C: There's no misses. There's no misses at all. And I love it. And then like, he's got super poetic songs like the Snake and stuff on there. And then Desperate man just bangs. And then I just. I'm such a fan of how he did it his own way and just was never afraid to kind of go against the grain. Even when it kind of maybe didn't make sense on paper, he kind of did it anyway. Very cliche answer, but yeah. [00:32:06] Speaker B: And he's. And he's built one of the biggest followings that we've ever seen in country music with the church choir. [00:32:11] Speaker C: Yep. You know, like, and like, not quietly, like, he's massive, but like, he's not a guy with a million number ones or anything like that. But he's just selling out anywhere, wherever he wants, all the time. [00:32:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And he. I remember when he did the. When he was doing those three hour shows with no openers and the set list was different every night. I got to see him in Reading, Pennsylvania, and they did a cover of Allentown, which was awesome. [00:32:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:35] Speaker B: And it's like, for him. For him to have a band that's that good to do a different set list every night, selling out arenas. [00:32:42] Speaker C: Yeah. I just. I love how it's. It's something that, like, you own. His whole career is like, it sounds like something like this totally alt country or alt rock thing would do. And he's done it in, like the mainstream country and it's been awesome. And it worked, you know, even when I'm sure people told him that it wouldn't, you know. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:03] Speaker B: I mean, he tells that story of that Tim McGraw tour from back in the day where he didn't get put on that, and then he went out and headlined his own thing and it just took off from there, bro. [00:33:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker B: And it was. And it was that. That chief era of when he was [00:33:16] Speaker C: like, I'm gonna do whatever I'm doing. [00:33:17] Speaker B: I'm doing what I want to do, and I'm gonna sing songs about North Carolina, just like you're singing songs about Louisiana, bro. [00:33:23] Speaker C: Yeah. Thank you, man. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's been a huge influence on everything. So. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, And I. I can see that. I can hear that, man. And. And you. You talk about playing. Playing live now. How many pieces do you have in your regular band when you're. When you're playing your live show? Because I feel like I've seen it in a few different variations, but, like, the full Joe Bryson show. Like, what do you. Because your. Your band. You guys make a lot of noise, bro. And there's soulfulness and there's the quiet moments where they. Where you suck us in. [00:33:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:54] Speaker B: And then there's just rocking out like nobody else in the scene right now. [00:33:58] Speaker C: Thank you, man. It depends on the budget, really. [00:34:03] Speaker B: Well, yeah, totally, totally, totally. [00:34:05] Speaker C: As big as we've gotten, I think is seven. I think we did one with me playing and singing lead guitar, bass, drums, keyboard, pedal steel. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:23] Speaker C: And fiddle. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I've seen you in that variation. [00:34:26] Speaker C: Yeah. And that was, like, kind of bonkers. That's a lot of noise. [00:34:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:31] Speaker C: That was, like, coming up on Dave Matthews type, you know, set. Yeah. Very jammy, but I love to do that every now. But we'll go as small as, like, a three piece, though. Like, we open up for Uncle Lucius. And that was just. [00:34:48] Speaker B: What was that like, man? [00:34:49] Speaker C: Surreal. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Wolves is such. That is a generational song. And I know they. They took their hiatus and now they're back. What was it like getting to be a part of a show on this. This. This resurgence that they're having? [00:35:01] Speaker C: Dude, that was one of the. I hadn't been to a show like that in a very long time where everybody in the crowd was just dead quiet, but rightfully so. Like, it was good that everybody was dead quiet, you know? Yeah, we just did the three piece and, like, I was just playing acoustic, singing fiddle singing horrors, and then stand up bass player playing and singing harms and like. Yeah, that was more of the grassier side of things. But, like, the crowd there, man, was. You could hear a pin drop the whole time. Just respectful as it gets of me. Like the first opener and then the middle opener and like, from all the way through, it was like playing at the Listening Room. There was a crowd that just understood and appreciated good music. [00:35:49] Speaker B: What was the venue like? Was that like a theater or. [00:35:51] Speaker C: It was Cannery Hall. Yeah. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Oh, is that Cannery? [00:35:54] Speaker C: Yeah, dude. So it was. [00:35:55] Speaker B: That's a room that doesn't always stay quiet. That's a club. [00:35:58] Speaker C: They were. I mean, I think that's just a testament to his fan base and the thing that he's created. Like, they were hooting and hollering in the right moments, but, like, they knew when to shut the hell up, which is rare, man. They just understood and knew his music so well. But, yeah, man, big fan. [00:36:16] Speaker B: It's. [00:36:16] Speaker C: And it's crazy because I've been listening to him forever, too. Yeah, he's like, just an OG Red Dirt guy, you know, but a songwriter, songwriter, genuinely. Yes, he's a songwriter. Songwriter. Yeah. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Yeah, man. That's. That's special. And it's a testament to where you're at in your career right now that you're having these. You're. You're getting these moments and you're getting to have friendships like you talk about with Neil and the Cadillac three guys. And it's like, it's. You belong in the room. You've got a seat at the table, bro. And you're still, in a big sense, just figuring it out and just getting started to where you're eventually going to get to. [00:36:52] Speaker C: And that. Yeah, that's been the. The weirdest things, like, just to have every single day when I, like, walk into the spirit building, like, it sounds so weird, but, like, there's a. There's a door code. And every single time I do it, I have, like, my own code that's, like, unique to me. [00:37:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:09] Speaker C: And I'm like, that's freaking wild. If you would have told me that five years ago, I'd freak out, man. And, like, I just get to do it every single day. So it's like one of those little gratitude things, man, where I'm just, like, golly, like, I'm truly living the dream and I could not be more beyond grateful, man. Yeah, it's just wild. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Now, what do you like doing when you're not doing all this music stuff? I know having the. Having the pub deal and running around playing shows, it takes up a lot of time, bro. So what is the outside of music life look like you get back home a lot? [00:37:42] Speaker C: I do. I try and go back home as often as I can. That's. That's what I was gonna. I've spent a lot of time outdoors and just quiet. Yeah, I try and go back home, like, almost once a month. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Wow. [00:37:54] Speaker C: At this point. Yeah, I got a really, really big family, and then my girlfriend's from down there as well. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Nice. [00:38:00] Speaker C: And her parents live. Our parents live, like, 10 minutes away from each other. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Oh, dude, that's perfect. [00:38:04] Speaker C: So it's like, totally another God thing. But yeah, so I'd, like. I'd go down there and just kind of unplug for, like, three, four days at a Time and don't do anything. And try my hardest not to even talk about music. [00:38:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:20] Speaker C: And I think that's so important, man. Like, it's so easy to get caught up in what we do and, like, look at it through a looking glass, you know? But there's so much more to life than Nashville. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Like, it's. We're very, very blessed and fortunate to get to do. We do. Don't get me wrong. [00:38:39] Speaker A: But. [00:38:41] Speaker C: Yeah, man, it's easy to get caught up in it. [00:38:43] Speaker B: It's important to get out of the bubble. [00:38:45] Speaker C: Yeah. And get. I just. Every time I come back, I just get so much perspective on whatever it may be, you know, career decisions or what to do and what not to do. Like, we talked, you know. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. [00:39:00] Speaker B: Anyways, that's. No. And it's important. I feel like Louisiana is one of those states where you guys have gone through the natural disasters, and there's a lot of impoverished areas down there. And folks. It brings people together. Like, there's nothing like a community that's in. That's in Louisiana or that's in the Mississippi Delta or that's in these middle of nowhere, remote places where when something happens, you guys all come together. Having a big family, I know, makes a big part of that. [00:39:27] Speaker C: Yeah, very much. Yeah. I'm on a six, and we're all super close. I'm the only one that ended up playing music or doing, like, anything kind of creative. But it's just so important to have, like, there's relationships that ground you. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:44] Speaker C: You know, and. Yeah. And give you that perspective on, like, I say the real world, for lack of a better term. But, like, that's kind of like, that's what it is. [00:39:55] Speaker B: It is the real world. [00:39:56] Speaker C: There's people, like, you go back home and you connect with buddies who were, you know, they're waking up and they're going to their 9 to 5 in their insurance job, whatever it may be, you know, and you're like, dang, that's. That's real life right there, you know? And I'm like, I'm. It's. I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say, but. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Yeah, no, dude, that's. That's totally true. Like, I talked to my friends back home in New York that are working nine to five jobs or my buddies that are in the union somewhere, and it's like. And I'm telling them what I'm doing for work. Like, I was just in Indiana at a music festival. I fly To Canada in two days for another one. [00:40:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:30] Speaker B: You know, and they're. It's. It's. You get. When you're running on this on the hamster wheel that is Nashville, and that is the music seen in the music industry. It's important to remain connected to your family and to your loved ones. [00:40:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:43] Speaker B: To back home, bro. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:44] Speaker B: So much like. Yeah. [00:40:46] Speaker C: If I don't get back, it feels like monthly, like, at least for a couple days out of every month. It's like, I start to get this, like, weird feeling. I'm like. And that. I think that's what it is. Like, you just. You start to feel disconnected from your roots, which is never good, man. Yeah, man. It's also. I just get the most inspiration after. After coming back. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Oh, the song. The songwriting bug in you coming back and being able. Like, I'm sure you write down some ideas or you come. Or you're talking into your voice memos as you're driving back. [00:41:21] Speaker C: Yes. [00:41:21] Speaker B: The whole. [00:41:22] Speaker C: Dude. If you got a glimpse at my notes app, you put me in the insane asylum immediately. It's crazy. But, yeah, man, I just. That's the good stuff, man. Just writing about what you know, I think, and reconnecting with that. So. Yeah. [00:41:39] Speaker B: Dude, what are the. What are the big goals for the rest of this year and going forward? I know we got. We got the big. We got the big record out back in the spring, and you dropped the single here in the summer. Like, what are we looking at for the rest of this year? And what are the. The big ultimate goals for where Joe Bryson's gonna go as a country artist? [00:41:56] Speaker C: Dude, we have some really, really cool things in the works. I mean, first and foremost, the next single comes out next Friday. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Oh, let's go. [00:42:03] Speaker C: So, yeah, it's called Dirt in My Teeth. [00:42:06] Speaker B: Sounds like some Louisiana Cajun stuff. [00:42:08] Speaker C: I'm so fired up for it, man. It's one of the coolest guitar grooves. Yeah. And I'm just fired up. I'm very proud of it and the way it turned out, and then that's all. Derek Will is producing, and Justin Halpin, and then Bobby Hamrick is another writer on it who just got nominated for, I think, Breakout Songwriter of the year or something like that. Yeah. So freaking good. Just more guys I'm beyond blessed to get in the room with. Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, dude. So that's next week and then next Friday, and then I'm starting this. This cool. I don't want to call it a writer's round, because it's Not a writer's round. Yeah. But it's. I'm calling it like a showcase. I think it's called Swamp Sounds. Joe Bryson, Swamp. [00:42:53] Speaker B: I like it. [00:42:53] Speaker C: I like it. And we're gonna be at the Underdog every once a month. Yeah, just once a month. And we're gonna be bringing on some. Some really, really cool talent. It's gonna be a night of unreleased music. Ooh. Yeah. So no. No ticket to get in. Nothing like that. Yeah. Just to hang and then. Yeah, it's. You got. That's. That's the one caveat. Everybody's got to play unreleased songs. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:16] Speaker C: When's the first one is September 22nd at the Underdog. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Okay. What day of the week is that? [00:43:22] Speaker C: I get Tuesday. [00:43:23] Speaker B: Tuesday. Okay. So I'll make sure that we're. I'll make sure we're there for. [00:43:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker B: And I love the Underdog. And, like, I love what Aniston Pate and Lady Ramsdale doing with Texas, too. [00:43:32] Speaker C: Yes. [00:43:33] Speaker B: I love the coolest thing, Ben and Boston. Oh. Did a thing over there for a little while, like. And I feel like east is such a good spot to do that. And the Underdog is just a raw kind of bar. Like, you're either going to. You're. It's not the. The best sounding, best looking, like, sexiest room in the world, but that's part of what makes you. [00:43:52] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like. That's. [00:43:54] Speaker B: It's raw. [00:43:54] Speaker C: What you see is what you get. Yeah, it's. And that's the coolness of it, you know? Yeah. [00:44:00] Speaker B: I love that. [00:44:01] Speaker C: Yeah. We have Ms. Brookly out there. She's on the opening showcase, September 22nd, amongst a few other friends. [00:44:09] Speaker B: How many songs are you having people play? [00:44:11] Speaker C: Three or four. [00:44:12] Speaker B: Okay, that's perfect. [00:44:13] Speaker C: Yeah, man. It's just. It's just a fun hang. Just another excuse of everybody. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:17] Speaker C: More than anything else, but. Yeah, man. Swamp sounds. So then that got that rolling once a month and then a lot more singles in the can. Yeah. Yeah. And it's been so fun to just roll these out and watch. Watch what they get to do, man. [00:44:33] Speaker B: What is going on the road look like right now? Is there a lot of that, or. We're kind of building for that right now? [00:44:39] Speaker C: A little bit of both. Nothing crazy. I just got back from Canada, which was amazing. [00:44:45] Speaker B: What was that? I'm going for the first time this weekend. [00:44:49] Speaker C: That's another. It's just so rewarding to play there because that was a night. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Who are you out there with? [00:44:53] Speaker C: The. It's this company called The Nashville Takeover. [00:44:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:56] Speaker C: Yeah. They have just a really, really cool thing going on, and they kind of host, like, this little Songwriters festival in these small towns in Canada, and it was the coolest thing in the world. And just, like, genuine music fans who were there to find artists they'd never heard of. It's the coolest thing in the world, man. And yes, I was out there. I think I did, like, two, three shows. Just songwriter, acoustic type stuff. But got that again in October, I believe. [00:45:25] Speaker B: Nice. [00:45:26] Speaker C: I need to check my calendar. And then, yeah, we got a Texas run in the books coming up in October also. And then one more Louisiana run, and then I'm capping it, man. That's it. Yeah, we're done for the year after that. [00:45:40] Speaker B: That's exciting, dude. Has it been a busy year getting, like. Where else were you before? Were you running around, like, a lot in the spring, like, early summer, we kind of. [00:45:49] Speaker C: We were running and gunning for a minute there. We kind of did the Southeast. Pretty. Pretty tough. Yeah, but. Yeah, very good. Very fun. But, you know. Yeah, live music, it's been. It's been an interesting game to navigate right now. Yeah, it's really tough, bro. [00:46:11] Speaker B: All the. All the clubs that I came up in, Tory with Muscadine and Trey, they're not there. They're not. Or they are there and they're just having a cover band instead because, yeah, they can't. They can't everything. They can't bring a guy like you in because the kids aren't drinking the beers that pay for the. [00:46:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Pay for the ticket, dude. [00:46:28] Speaker C: Genuinely. [00:46:29] Speaker B: For the guarantee. [00:46:30] Speaker C: It's. That's most of it, I. I think amongst other things. But, yeah, it's just so hard for, like a smaller to midsize act. It's like trying to come up to. To really run and gun and hit the road and, you know, at least break even doing it. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:51] Speaker C: So we. We. I'm still touring. I'll never. Not, you know, but we definitely pumped the brakes a little bit from going as hard as we were. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. And that's something that Nick and I at Rage, right? We're trying to figure out, like, who. What promoter can we talk to. To let a Joe Bryson Let. Let a. Let a Brooklyn. Let Aniston pay it. Let a Delaney Ramsdale. Let a. Like, all these acts that we get to watch, we're blessed to be able to watch come up here playing Rowdy on the Row or playing Whiskey Jam. How do we get them into Statesboro, Georgia? How do we get them Into Athens to Baton Rouge. Like, how cool would it be for you to be able to go down there and play the Texas Club, you know? Like, it's important for the college kids to get there. Like. Like we were watching. Like, I was watching the Cadillac 3 back in the day, you know? [00:47:40] Speaker C: Yeah. And, you know, it's. It'll all comes back. I guess so. Yeah. But definitely not the main focus as it was even a couple months ago, I guess. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Now, I see you got a show coming up here August 29th. [00:47:56] Speaker C: Yep. Cannery Hall. Yeah, I'll just talk about not playing shows. [00:48:00] Speaker B: Well, I'm looking. [00:48:01] Speaker A: I'm looking. [00:48:01] Speaker B: I'm looking at what I love on Spotify. It shows. Like, it shows the shows. You got August 29th, and you got October 8th down in Congress. Monroe listed on here. So, Kennery, is that a headline? You opening for somebody headlining, man? Let's go. [00:48:15] Speaker C: Mr. Liam Coleman. I know, man. [00:48:18] Speaker B: Love Liam Coleman. [00:48:19] Speaker C: I hate that guy. I'm joking, buddy. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Sonically, y' all are very different, but I love that. [00:48:25] Speaker C: That. [00:48:26] Speaker B: That, to me, makes it even better. [00:48:27] Speaker C: He's a dear friend of mine, man. Yeah, we were roommates for. [00:48:31] Speaker B: Really? [00:48:31] Speaker C: Yeah, man. Not too far from here, actually. [00:48:34] Speaker B: No. [00:48:35] Speaker C: Yeah, man. But, yeah, he's a very dear friend of mine, and we still write together a good bit and. Yeah, man. So we got the opportunity to headline Cannery, and I just gave him the shout, man. I was like, you know, come. Come play, man. Do your thing. [00:48:48] Speaker B: That's awesome. Well, I'll be down in Florida for a festival that night, but I'll make sure that Nikki T. Is over there. [00:48:53] Speaker C: We'll send you that show. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, we'll drink a beer. [00:48:55] Speaker A: Yep. [00:48:56] Speaker B: Drink. Drink some beers, drink some Surfsides. I always tell people, since I don't drink, like, you got to drink double since I don't. [00:49:01] Speaker C: You know, I'll pull my weight. [00:49:03] Speaker B: I know you will. I know you will. I know you will. What's something that you. What's. What's something that you would tell either yourself when you like looking back, you would tell yourself back in 2020 when you made the jump up here, you would tell to a young guy or girl or group of friends that are in a band that are making the jump up here, like, having been in town now, like, you've been here over five years now, like, you're starting to. You've cut your teeth and you. You know what it's like to be, like, you're a member of the scene in the community. So what would you tell that that young guy or young girl making the jump down here or up here in your case, [00:49:41] Speaker C: First and foremost is keep going. It sounds so cliche, but there were so many times where, like, even little things like, you don't want to do something or you might feel like something's not working, just keep going. Like, yeah, I'll leave it at that. And then also the power of yes. The art of yes and saying yes has been huge for me. Like, and that kind of ties into keep going. But, like, even when you don't want to do something, even when an opportunity may not sound that good on paper or doesn't make sense, you never know what it's gonna lead to. Like, I couldn't tell you the amount [00:50:30] Speaker B: of times what's been one of those biggest yeses that you've answered with where it opened up a door where you're like, holy shit, thank God I agreed to do this, dude. [00:50:39] Speaker C: I'll tell you how. So the whole way that I signed my. My publishing and artist development deal at Spirit was so I. It was all just a series of yeses, basically. So Liam and I write. We were writing with Nathan Wilson a good bit. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Love him, too. [00:50:58] Speaker C: He's the man. He's also a good buddy of mine. And then Nathan and I started writing with Connor McCutcheon and then. And Connor, the whole crew. [00:51:09] Speaker B: This is awesome. [00:51:09] Speaker C: Yeah, man. And then Connor asked me to play or no. Who asked me? [00:51:17] Speaker B: Sorry, let me play somebody in that crew. [00:51:20] Speaker C: I got asked to do this round at the local, and Connor happened to be on it, but I was the round after him. Okay, the story's getting confusing. Sorry. I was supposed to be the round after him, and then somebody called me that day and was like, hey, can you play the round before instead of the later round? Because I got called into a late session or something. I don't really know what happened. And I was just said yes. I was like, sure. So I ended up on the same round as Connor McCutcheon, and we had already been. We had already been together a couple times at that point, and he was signed to Spirit. So the creative directors from Spirit were there at the time, and they saw Connor and they asked kind of like, who's that? And that's how we got introduced at Spirit. [00:52:08] Speaker B: And then. Wow. [00:52:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Crazy. Like, that's one of those things, like, only in Nashville. Genuine, like you see in a movie. Just truly holy Spirit. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:18] Speaker C: No, but yeah, man. Just the power of yes. Like, you never know what your yes will lead to. Yeah. Yeah. [00:52:27] Speaker B: Amen to that, bro. [00:52:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:29] Speaker B: That's awesome. That's got me fired up. [00:52:31] Speaker C: Thanks, man. [00:52:31] Speaker B: I love it. [00:52:32] Speaker C: I want to do. [00:52:33] Speaker B: I love it, man. Well, hey, thank you so much for coming on here and hanging out and appreciate you excited for the new music that you're gonna be rolling out before the end of the year and excited for all that you got going on and can't wait to see where this thing goes, man. [00:52:47] Speaker C: Thank you, man. Thank you all for having me and thank you all for everything you all do. [00:52:49] Speaker A: Dude. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Yo, you're part of our community, part of our family, so thank you for coming to play. And y' all be sure to check out our man Joe Bryson if you've watched this long. We appreciate it. And be sure to visit raise your eye dot com. Promote us. Shout out to our friends from Surfside. No bubbles, no troubles. Gonna send Joe home with some of those over there, the green teas that have a little extra caffeine. And you and the lady can get some extra caffeine and alcohol mixed together. [00:53:15] Speaker C: It's like exactly what I need. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Exactly what you need. Exactly what you perfect for a Monday. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Well, we appreciate it, brother. And y' all be sure to go check out the King's Court. The full record came out back in the spring. And also go check out Got that right. The latest single from our boy and brand new song, Dirt in My Teeth. Yep. [00:53:33] Speaker C: Dirt in My Teeth. [00:53:34] Speaker B: It'll be. It'll be out when this episode comes out. I think this is dropping on release day. Oh, perfect, perfect, perfect. Look at us. [00:53:42] Speaker C: Holy spirit. [00:53:42] Speaker A: Holy spirit. Let's go. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Thank you, God. [00:53:44] Speaker C: Amen. [00:53:46] Speaker B: It's like DJ Khaled likes to say, God did. You know God did. [00:53:49] Speaker C: God did. [00:53:50] Speaker B: God did. [00:53:50] Speaker C: He did, man. [00:53:51] Speaker B: He did. He did. [00:53:52] Speaker A: He did. He did. [00:53:53] Speaker C: He did. [00:53:53] Speaker B: He did. Well, for my man Joe, I'm Matt Real. This has been outside the Ram. We'll catch you all next time. [00:53:57] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:54:00] Speaker A: I ain't never been the kind for st one place for too long I never been the best at s I love you girl I love only got a couple tricks up my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me, if you really know me you know I'm just a two trick pony but maybe the drink and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick pony, yeah.