Caleb Lathrop

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Also, make sure you guys like rate, subscribe, tell your mama and them and for more details and, uh, to get in touch with the rest of the familia, visit rays rowdy.com. Now let's get into it. Outside the round with me, map bll Raise, rowdy podcast. Speaker 1 00:01:08 Come on. Speaker 2 00:01:11 This is Outside The Round with Matt Bell, A Raise Rowdy podcast. Speaker 0 00:01:20 What's going on everybody? Welcome back to Outside the Round with me, Matt Baril. Uh, today we have got a really cool episode, uh, with our boy, a new face in town, uh, who's been playing our events, our Ray rowdy events over at Live Oak Music Row, and a guy that, uh, we really believe in. We've been doing a lot of these newer folks getting on the podcast. So then years from now you can be like, oh shit, they were on the out, they were on outside the round or they were on tails from the front row or whatever. And within our podcast network, we've got our good buddy, Mr. Caleb Lathrop with us. Yes, Caleb. How you doing, dude? Speaker 3 00:01:56 Doing good, man. Speaker 0 00:01:57 What'd you get into this weekend? Speaker 3 00:01:59 Oh, what'd I do this weekend? Uh, play some golf, play some golf, and had some writing sessions and, uh, kind of the normal day-to-day thing as a independent artist. Speaker 0 00:02:09 Nice. How long have you been living here in town? Speaker 3 00:02:11 So, I moved here. I moved here right during Covid, so like Right. So I played college baseball back home in Oregon and then I at a juco and then I got, um, an offer to play here at Cumberland in Lebanon. And I played, uh, pitcher there and I got to do one year during Covid and started the spring ball. And, um, then I hurt, I hurt my arm, my ucl, and I had to kind of let that go and I was like, man, what am, what am I gonna do next? <laugh>? Yeah. And I was like, I always loved music. Like I grew up around my, uh, great grandpa and he, he had this little band like in our county and they used to play everywhere. So I, I kind of grew up with music in my family. Yeah. But like, never really, that was never like the idea. I was always sports. So it was like baseball, basketball, football, soccer, you name it. All year round I was doing something. Speaker 0 00:03:00 What was your, what was your out pitch? What was your, Speaker 3 00:03:02 Your, I don't Speaker 0 00:03:03 Know dude, what was, what were you, how hard, how were you throwing hard? Were you were high? You making that ball move or Speaker 3 00:03:08 What? No, that's, that was my biggest thing. I, my ball can move, like Okay. It was, I had a lot of sync on my fast ball. I had a lot of drop on my change up. I had a, I had a really kind of like a mix of a Clayton Kershaw with a sweep to it curve. Yeah. So it was, um, that was probably my go-to pit. My go, my out pitch is Speaker 0 00:03:25 My curve ball. Yeah. Cause I grew up a big, I'm a big baseball fan right now and it's a weird, weird time for me because the Yankees on paper look so fucking good. But without Aaron Judge where we're in, we're in the last place for like, the first time in my lifetime. And we're still like, as it sits right now, like six or seven games over 500. Yeah. And we're in last place cuz the division's so fucking good. But I grew up, I grew up around baseball cuz like my great grandpa like played with the, um, in the Brooklyn Dodgers organization. Really? And then my PopPop on my dad's side was a, um, he played in the, uh, little League World series for the state of Maine ump for like a bunch of years coached like Babe Ruth Ball, like legion ball. He's in like the Maine, like state of Maine has their own like baseball Hall of Fame. Yeah. And he's like a fixture in that hall of fame. So I always wanted him to be a good player. I just wasn't. I was, I just wasn't. But I, I love, loved the sport, loved the game. What Speaker 3 00:04:16 Position were you? Speaker 0 00:04:17 I was, I was wherever they could find the spot for me. I was that kid that wasn't really good. Really? Speaker 3 00:04:20 You like coach? I'll play left out, dude. Come on. Speaker 0 00:04:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, dude, I, um, I loved it. And um, but I remember like my, you talked about like those, those sweeping curves and shit. Yeah. My, um, my nana used to always get mad at my PopPop, but he would do it and he'd have me get down like a catcher. And this was him in his fifties, sixties. And he would throw, it was a tennis ball, thankfully. But he would throw a curve, he would throw, he'd be like, I'm gonna make this thing curve and it's gonna hit you right between the eyes. Don't move your hand. And sure enough, when I was a little, when I was a little guy, probably like six, seven years old, eight years old, he would, he would drop the curve and it, the tennis ball hit me right in the fucking right in the crown of my nose, dude. And there's some, there's something special about that game of baseball and there's a lot of parallels to folks that play baseball within country music. I mean, you're a West coast guy, you're or Pacific North, you're a Pacific Northwest guy west. So it's a little different than West Coast. But if you go down, go down the go down the road a little bit in the California, you look Yeah. Speaker 3 00:05:11 You SoCal and Alabama. Speaker 0 00:05:12 Yeah. Yeah. You look at a guy like Brett Young Brett young people don't realize he was drafted by, back in the day, it was the Tampa Bay Devil Ray. Yeah. And he was a pitcher. He was at Fresno State and um, he had everything going for him. And then his arm gave out and he decided to pick up a guitar and start covering Gavin Degrass songs and then started writing his own and look at where his career is, man. Exactly. Look at guys, guys like Wallen and, and Ernest. Yep. And Jameson Rogers and so many, um, and, uh, Adam Doleac. There's so many guys that come up as baseball guys and it's like, wouldn't Speaker 3 00:05:43 Al die one too? Speaker 0 00:05:44 Al Die was one mean, I feel like, so especially in the sales, Speaker 3 00:05:46 I, I feel like it's like the, it's like every, like when I moved here, anyone I talked to, I'm like, oh, what'd you, what'd you see? You play any sports? Like Yeah, baseball. I'm like, me too. It's like everyone. Speaker 0 00:05:54 Yeah. And it's like when you think of like, they call like the, they call folks like the Boys of Summer when they're playing baseball. Exactly. And you think of summer and you think of country music and they just kind of go, kind of go hand in hand. So that has to be tough. Making that transition though from like your, your life's work being on a diamond and putting in all those work and all those hitting lessons and all those pitching lessons and everything like that to switching up to taking guitar lessons or teaching yourself guitar and just, but it's still a grind Speaker 3 00:06:21 Man. Definitely. I mean, I'm, I've never taken a guitar lesson in the sense of like an actual lesson and I've never taken a vocal lesson. I just recently started, I had a, I got connected with a, a girl named Mo, she's unbelievable. She's an amazing vocal coach. And she's been for the last like week and a half I've been working with her. But yeah, I mean, going from going from Wake, normally waking up at like six, seven in the morning, going, doing workouts, going, doing that and making sure your body's right and that eating healthy. That's one thing I wish I would've kept just eating better. But yeah. Uh, going from all that and then you go into like, you lose it all and you're like, damn, what do I do now? It's like you have that kinda like aha moment. You're like, well I didn't really have a plan B, but then like, you always loved playing music and whatnot. And like, I've always loved, I, like, I never, I didn't even know I could sing until like 2018. Like I had, I, I really still to this day don't think I should be here and like, in the sense of it. But I'm like, I think there's a reason I'm here and I think God has a plan for that. So I was like, why not? Like why not? Why can't I do this? Speaker 0 00:07:22 Yeah. What was it like going from the Pacific Northwest to Lebanon, Tennessee? Cause it was Speaker 3 00:07:28 A big difference Speaker 0 00:07:29 Cause because we're, because I'm like, how like where you grew up because we have a good friend. I don't know, do you know Mark Orate at all? If you met him yet? Mark Speaker 3 00:07:36 Or then so's Speaker 0 00:07:38 I think I've heard the name. He's a right writer in town. An artist in town. He works within, he's very involved with Ray's Rowdy. We have a, a new segment we're doing called the, called the DJs. And it's some of our buddies like, it's Mark Brian Frazier, Ryan Nelson Jaice, and Eli Locke. And they're, they're talented writers. They're doing the artist thing, but they're like comedy guys too. Yeah. But Mark is from Oregon and I always thought of Oregon as being like the ducks and the beavers and, and Portland and this and that. But then Mark's like, bro, we, I grew up on a, I grew up on a farm. I used to, we used to go go hunting in the fall, go hunting in the spring, do this, do that, love to smoke some herb, like doing all the, all that. And I was like, oh shit. Like the Pacific Northwest. And I mean it stretches over into, into Idaho. It stretches over into, into big sky country too. Yep. So coming from like that, that small town, rural Pacific northwest stuff to the rural south, yeah, they're pretty fucking different. Speaker 3 00:08:34 It's a, it's a pretty big change. Like people call, like I don't want to bash on anyone here about any of that, but like, people call, like, they're like, oh, these mountains. And I'm like, those are like hit like rolling hills, <laugh>. Speaker 0 00:08:45 Yeah. Well that's just, I look at Tennessee as like having, having rolling hills Speaker 3 00:08:48 And stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:08:49 That's, it's not, I mean you have like the Smoky Mountains and stuff that are a little bit east where, where Appalachia is. But yeah, the west coast, the, the mountain ranges and it's, does it really rain that fucking much? Like do you think it rains more out there? It rains more here cause it rains a lot in Nashville. Speaker 3 00:09:03 Okay. So I, I actually, it's funny you say that because I was just talking to my buddy who came from back home and we're talking about that and like, it rains a lot, like more often there. But in the sense of like actual rainfall, it, I don't know the statistics, but it feels like when it rains here, like Luke comb said it best when it rains, it pours. Yes. Like it rains here. And I've never seen that kind of a rain, like at home, like it'll rain, but it's like the ass end of the rain here. Like when it's just lightly kind of fading out. That's what it's like more often there. So it's like it'll rain for like six hours, eight hours, but it's like you maybe get like two, three inches of rain, like rainfall and then here in five minutes you'll get five inches of the rainfall. And I'm like, it's like, not even comparable, but it's like I see what, what people are like. I wonder where it rains more. And I, I don't know. Speaker 0 00:09:56 <laugh>. Yeah. Cuz I, that's how, that's how I felt coming from New York. Like it was, we didn't have the humidity. What's Speaker 3 00:10:01 It like up there? Speaker 0 00:10:02 I mean, we'll we get four seasons. Like we get, we, like I used to make money shoveling my neighbor's driveways. Oh yeah. Like with, with snow and, and the leaves changing a lot in the fall. It's just not as humid. The humidity down here is fucking brutal. You don't have that as much. Speaker 3 00:10:16 No, we don't hardly have any humidity. You're not that at all. Yeah. I don't think we, I mean maybe like one, 2%. I don't know. Yeah. But like, I've always loved humidity just from like being a kid. We used to go to Hawaii once in a while and, and I love the humidity as a kid. Like when we got there I'm like, cuz you know when you get out when you're a kid and you get outta the airport and you're like, you feel the, the humidity hit you and you don't, you've never felt it before and you're like, oh. And then you, like your mind takes you like, this is what Hawaii feels like. Yeah. And then like I came down here, I'm like, I like this feeling. Yeah. So it's like, it was really easy for me to come down here in that sense. Cuz I mean, I like the heat and I definitely do love the winters. And that's one thing I do miss is like, I miss snowboarding and, and doing all the fun stuff we did back like in the winter. But Speaker 0 00:10:55 Yeah, it's just casually taking family vacations to Hawaii. That feels like that, that's a big West coast thing. I mean that's a very west coast thing thing. Speaker 3 00:11:01 It's way closer for sure. Yeah, Speaker 0 00:11:03 That's what I'm saying. It's a west coast Speaker 3 00:11:04 Thing. I mean, I was blessed. I mean I grew up my, I grew with my grandparents, but I mean I was very, very blessed with how I was raised. And, and everyone in my family is always trying to do something right for me and help me out. And it's like I was unbelievably blessed of how I was raised up. Speaker 0 00:11:18 How close were you like, like distance wise, like same town as your grandparents and all that stuff? Speaker 3 00:11:23 Yeah. Yeah. So I was, I'm originally, I'm from Elgin, Oregon, which is a really, really small town. I graduated with 28 people. Um, everyone knew everyone. Like if you did, if if you, if you had a breakup, the entire county and the county next to us would know it within an hour. Wow. Like, I mean it was like wildfire. Like even their parents knew. Yeah. It's like, yeah, you break up with a girl, you go drive to the next county over and go to like to get food or something and they're like, oh, you guys broke up. And you're like, how did you even know this? Like, I just texted her 20 minutes ago. <laugh>. Speaker 0 00:11:56 Yeah. Yeah. So like I grew up very close to my grandparents. Yeah. And I was lucky enough to have great grandparents like you talked about. Yep. I was lucky enough to have both sets of great grandparents on my mom's side and then my, my dad's parents, um, very involved in my life. But like my family all came from the same like suburb in New York, like outside of New York. My dad came from Maine, but my mom's side like grew up in like 30 minutes outside, 30 miles or whatever outside of New York City. And it was cool because like I had, they got to have those times that we had a family business and like my grandparents growing up were never more than four or five miles away. Yeah. And I spent a lot of time and I didn't do like the, the cliche country stuff, like going fishing with my grandpa or doing things like that. But I got to have a lot of time with them. And it's, it is a special, it's Speaker 3 00:12:45 A very special thing. Speaker 0 00:12:45 It's a very special thing. Are your grandparents still around? Speaker 3 00:12:48 Yep. So my great grandma actually just passed away in this December and I grew up with my great grandparents and my grandparents like this like kind of at the same time, like my mom had me at a really young age and my dad, uh, also as a young age. And uh, it was just like they thought it was the best fit for me because I mean, when you're that young, I, I could not even imagine even at my age right now, 23, like imagine having a kid right now raising a kid. Like Speaker 0 00:13:14 Where I'm at bro, I'm at 28 and it, it'd be tough Yeah. To imagine having a newborn pop Speaker 3 00:13:18 Out. Yeah. I mean my mom had me while she was in high school. Okay. And like I went to like graduation stuff and like Wow. I was like, I I was kinda like the cool kid when I was like a baby before I even got to high school. And then I turned out that that was my only cool moment <laugh>. So I was like kind of a loser. Yeah. I wouldn't say I was like a loser. No. But it was like, I definitely, it was, it was cool. But I'm talking like I remember it. But <laugh> Speaker 0 00:13:41 I remember being, Speaker 3 00:13:42 I remember all the stories I was Speaker 0 00:13:43 Wearing that pair of Huggies and I had my Speaker 3 00:13:45 Bottle. Yeah. I had those, I had those Jordans on, you know, with the light up on 'em, you know. Yeah. But no, it was, it was cool. I, um, I was really, I'm still still really close with everyone in my family. Like there was never been black bad blood Yeah. In that sense of anything. And they just thought it was best that I like was raised up with somebody who was able to raise somebody right now and then like I've gotta see him every other day and whatnot. And yeah. Like my dad, I think my dad still lived there while I was um, like a kid and whatnot cuz he was gonna college and uh, and yeah. So now we're 23 years down the Speaker 0 00:14:20 Line. Yeah. How, how was their reaction to you wanting to move across the country to two time zones over? Because for me it was like, I'm a 14 hour drive away, two and a half hour flight and Speaker 3 00:14:31 Luckily and one hour time Speaker 0 00:14:31 Zone. Yeah. One hour, one, one time zone over. And I have family in east Tennessee. So like, I grew up coming down to this region quite a bit. Not quite middle Tennessee, but the, the eastern side near the Virginia border. And my family was, they were, they were very supportive. But when I first left was Speaker 3 00:14:46 Tough. That was a tough question you asked me. That was a question you asked me. I forgot what you were Speaker 0 00:14:48 Asking me. It was, it was tough. Like what's the, because family's a huge thing for you. I can tell like the, the lather family is is very tight. Very tight. I can, I can tell that just from talking to you right now. Like what's, what's the reaction to, okay guys, I'm gonna move, I'm gonna move to, to Nashville to one play baseball and then two, I'm gonna stay here and try this music thing. Something that I, you guys didn't know about me growing up and stuff. Speaker 3 00:15:11 Yeah. Like I never even sang during like, like I was saying, I'm gonna get to back to they, they were very supportive one. Yeah. And then I'll get back to that. But like, I, like I said, I didn't know I could really sing or anything until like 2018. Like I started, I was working this construction job with, uh, with a buddy of mine, Chris Bathie. And he, he, I was like, just got outta my freshman year of college at a JUCO and I'm like, dude, I don't know where I'm gonna work. Cause I was living in Portland at that time and uh, and he's like, oh man, no, I got this job. And my uncle, I think it was, was working there. And so we talked to the boss and um, I was like, Hey, come on over and, and get a job interview. And did that and got hired and got worked there that summer. Worked there I think two to three summers. And then, but my point is, in 2018 I was working there and I, uh, was driving a haul truck and I was just like so bored outta my mind that I didn't know what to do. So I was like, I always loved singing and whatnot. So I was like, I'm gonna try to write a song. So I was in the hall truck, wrote my very first song without a guitar, without um, any like, instrumental plane, anything. I would just, just off the top my head, Speaker 0 00:16:19 The Power of the notes section in the iPhone. Speaker 3 00:16:22 Swear dude. Yeah. It's the best thing I've ever, like if you look through my notes right now, there's at least probably 2000 like song ideas and probably like a hundred plus songs. Yeah. The Speaker 0 00:16:32 Power, the power of the phone, man. I mean, I keep so much stuff, so many things in my notes. That's how I know what, who's playing what round. That's how I know like my business plans within race, rowdy, like different things like goals. Like there's, there's so much power to to writing shit down dude. And luckily we don't have to write it down in a pen on a, on a piece of paper to where we could fucking lose it. Cuz I know I would lose it. I I lose shit all the time. Yeah. So to have it in the phone is, is great. Speaker 3 00:16:55 Yeah. And so when I finished, when I finished that, uh, when I finished the uh, song, I'm like, oh this is such a good song. You know, when you get like whatever. Yeah. I'm like, it's first think this song's gonna be a number one. Yeah. I'm like, don't even know really. And I'm like, wait, I gotta go back and get my guitar and see what the chords are for this. And started messing around with that. And, and then I got, I showed my buddies on my baseball team and they're like, dude, that's pretty cool. And then I like, obviously looking back, it's terrible but like, and I went to a guitar center with my buddy and we were just looking at guitars and some guy came in and this is how, this is how the whole music thing thing started. Right. So I was playing baseball, did all that. Speaker 3 00:17:32 Went to a guitar center, started messing around, looking at guitars. My buddy was there and I was showing him cuz he hadn't heard it yet. And I showed him the song and this guy heard me like, I was in like the acoustic room where the door shut and whatnot. Yeah. And the guy, I don't can't remember his name, but a guy came in and was like, can I, can I record this and like post this? I'm like, sure. So I re played it again. He recorded it posted on Facebook and I mean, it's not really blowing up in the sense of it, but back then that was a lot to me. So it was like, it had like 8,000 shares and like, something, something big for me. And I'm like, holy cow. And then like I have all these people like back home, they're like, I didn't know you could sing blah, blah blah, blah blah and this. Speaker 3 00:18:10 And I'm like, I didn't either. <laugh>. Yeah. And it was like, so that's where like everything really started. I'm like, maybe I can, maybe I can do music. And then like, cuz I was still during baseball and I was like, but I'm like, I, I'll just do it for fun. Whatever. Just kind of like a bonfire gig or something, you know. And then got down here, hurt my arm and all that happened. I told, so I told them when I was coming down here, that's what you were asking me. So I was like, hey one, I like music. And I knew that I wanted to pick a college to go to after Juco that was like towards music. And I'm like somewhere in Tennessee for sure because I've always loved like, um, like the south. And I've only been down here a couple times. Like I went to Florida when I was a kid a couple times to Disney World. And then, um, I think where was the other place I went? It was like Arizona and then that's not really technically it's the Speaker 0 00:19:00 Southwest. Yeah. Yeah. It's the south for a west coast Speaker 3 00:19:02 Guy. Yeah. But I mean like the east south and like, like, you know, like the southern south. Yeah. Like when you think of that, I don't think of like Arizona and like the south of that Speaker 0 00:19:10 Like Yeah. Scottsdale might as well be. It's all, it's all my kind of That's didn't hear. Yeah, exactly. Speaker 3 00:19:14 So, but yeah, when I told 'em that they're like, I mean go ahead do it. They're ever, they've always been very supportive and like, they'll back me on anything I do. Like if I told this is how awesome my family is. Like if I told 'em like, Hey, I'm starting this like worm company and I promise you it's gonna work out. They'll be like, I believe you a hundred percent. And I'm like, it's never gonna work out. But they'll they'll be right there behind my back always. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:19:38 Yeah. That's, that's that's what I've, that's similar situation to me growing up. Cause I've, my family had a, we had a family business and it was a, um, cull, it was a water company. It was called Culligan Water. And we had like a franchise of it or whatever and like grow growing up in New York. Like there's like the, the common jobs. Everybody goes into the city and a lot of people do the Wall Street thing or work for work for the town or do this or do that. And I was working in, I was working in radio, which is completely fucking out there. It's out there is like what I'm doing now with Yeah. With Razor Audi and, and what I did going on tour with people. But my family always, always had my back, you know, and they, they, it wasn't the normal nine to five thing, but they always, always supported me Yeah. Speaker 0 00:20:19 In and stuff like that. And I definitely wouldn't be down here if it weren't for them. So a hundred percent. That's cool. That's cool to hear that man. Um, being in Oregon, like being out in the Pacific Northwest, you get all, you get all kinds of different music tastes too, because I mean, you a hundred percent you look back and like the nineties and the, and the two thousands like the rock shit and it's like the big thing that come outta Seattle. I mean you had, you had Mariners baseball at Griffey? Yep. About one of the greatest of all time Speaker 3 00:20:44 Favorite player. Him and ro my favorite players. Speaker 0 00:20:46 Oh, I, I can see why. I remember each year I went to, my family was actually on vacation in East Tennessee. And then, but I stayed, I stayed home and I was, it was me and my grandma going back to the grandparents thing. And I remember I was in like the first, I was in first grade, I think first or second grade, I think it was first grade because that was when each row came in oh one, right? Yep. Uh, I think it was oh oh one or oh two. Speaker 3 00:21:09 Yeah, somewhere in Speaker 0 00:21:10 There. Somewhere in there. Some remember each year it was one of, it was the Mariner's first se it was each year row's first series in New York. And this was before Matt Suey had come to the Yankees. Yeah. So New York, huge Asian population. Not quite like Seattle, but still very large Asian population. It was at the old Yankee Stadium. And my grandma, huge Yankees fan. And I remember going to the Yankee game with her Awesome. Um, just me, just me, just me and grandma going and watching, watching each and we were in right field and the amount of of just peop the spectacle that was the, the fucking, the fucking buzz of just each row. Yeah. And just how big he was for the game of baseball. Exactly. Worldwide. It was so cool to watch. Speaker 3 00:21:51 Kinda like what Shhe is doing right now, Speaker 0 00:21:53 Dude. It's insane. Like Speaker 3 00:21:55 Yeah, that's, I mean, it's great for the great for the game. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:21:58 Are you still, like, you still keep up with baseball and everything? Every day. Every day. So, man, Speaker 3 00:22:02 Baseball, basketball, I mean baseball. Like, I was gonna go play basketball before baseball. Oh really? Yeah. I was gonna, I was gonna go play basketball in Hawaii, Hawaii Pacific, but I didn't get a scholarship that I wanted, so I, I went for baseball instead. Sure. But basketball, I mean, it was always a toss up. I've always told like, oh, you can't play basketball, you're too short, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, well I can still shoot, I can shoot and I can still dribble and I can still pass. Speaker 0 00:22:23 And I, and I and I will give Speaker 3 00:22:24 Just cause I just, cuz I'm short doesn't mean that that won't work. Speaker 0 00:22:26 Yeah. Yeah. And I will give every effort I can on defense, which is huge thing. And so many guys don't play defense anymore, but that's a whole nother conversation. Yeah. Um, what do you think's gonna happen with Damien Lillard? Oh dude. Because you're a big Trailblazers fan and I know how important the Blazers are to the city of Portland being the one, I mean, you have the timber too, the soccer team. Yeah. But like I know how important the Blazers are to the state of Oregon. Oh yeah. Being the one pro team. Speaker 3 00:22:50 I mean, I'm, I what, what I want to happen or what I think is gonna happen. I think he's gonna go to Miami. Yeah. I definitely think he's gonna Miami, but I want, I think it would be super cool if he, uh, if he joined the Celtics, I, I don't know what it is. Speaker 0 00:23:05 But you think he's definitely outta Portland? I Speaker 3 00:23:07 He's definitely outta Portland. Speaker 0 00:23:08 Which is a shame because you Speaker 3 00:23:09 Shame. It's a shame. But like all Speaker 0 00:23:10 Those teams that they've had over the last 10 years, they've, they've been so competitive but just couldn't get past the hump. Speaker 3 00:23:18 The Warriors, you can't get past them right. There. Like the Warriors in the last, the same amount of time that he had all those great teams Yeah. Who's beating the Warriors. Really. Speaker 0 00:23:25 Yeah. And even, and even before the Warriors got really going, you had the tail end of the Spurs dynasty. Yeah. You had, you had the, the heat and the, well even just on the Western conference, you had the fucking Lakers. Like you had some teams. The Clippers like you had it was, it was Speaker 3 00:23:40 Tough. Deandre, Jordan, Blake, Griffin, Chris Paul. Yeah. Yeah. Phoenix is gonna be Speaker 0 00:23:45 Phoenix gonna be so fucking good. Yeah. <laugh>. They're already so fucking good. And fucking Denver just proved, I mean, YOIC is just a fucking force. And basketball is fun, man. And that's something I I know we, there's the Grizzlies down the road in Memphis and they're a whole fucking cluster. I gotta go to one of those games. They're a whole cluster fuck with, with the John Morant stuff. But like, it'd be cool if Nashville, what would you prefer? Would you prefer baseball? You'd prefer they had a baseball team? I Speaker 3 00:24:08 I, I think it would be better for the city just in the sense of, because we already have the sounds Right. And like, I don't know who, like it would be tough to have a basketball team here in this. I mean, it would be very awesome to have one. I would love that. But I think for the general census, if we had an MLB team here, I think it would be like top tier. It, it'd make it more of a destination and it would make it like, which kind of sucks for the locals. Yeah. That Speaker 0 00:24:39 Definitely sucks. Well we are, we are a tourist town. Yeah. We we are. Speaker 3 00:24:42 But I feel like it would be awesome. Like imagine, imagine like, cuz aren't they taking down the football stadium? Speaker 0 00:24:49 So they're rebuilding that. That's about to have a whole retractable roof get a huge facelift. Speaker 3 00:24:52 Yeah, I've seen what it looked like. But are they gonna move? Is the new location gonna be different or is it gonna be right in the Speaker 0 00:24:57 Same spot? It's gonna, it's gonna be like Right, right in that same spot. Speaker 3 00:25:00 So then how are they gonna have a season? Speaker 0 00:25:01 They're gonna, or it's gonna be like maybe right next to it. I don't Speaker 3 00:25:04 Know. I was just say cuz I feel like they're gonna have to build the new one, like somewhere close to it. But imagine like if, if that, that place right there is taken down Right. And then the football place, uh, stadium's in a new place and that is where the baseball field is and you're looking over kinda like, like P n C at Pittsburgh. Imagine that view with the, the Batman Speaker 0 00:25:23 Building. Oh dude, it'd be so sad. Speaker 3 00:25:24 That would be one of it would, it would for sure be one of the best like outlooks I, in my opinion, I think P N C and Pittsburgh is one of the prettiest views Yeah. Of the Speaker 0 00:25:33 Backdrop. Yeah. It's, that's on my bucket list. And with Rays rowdy being originally started by Nikki t in Pittsburgh. Yeah. We've been planning a, a voyage to go up there. Love it. Okay. And I'm like Nicki, I know that the pirate that that you have your thoughts on the Pirates because they've, they've started out really good when you were a kid, cuz Nicki's in his forties and the Pirates back in the day had fucking Bobby Bonilla. They had fucking barely bonds. They had, they were the, the late eighties, early nineties pirates were fucking incredible. But ever since then, they've been so bad. They're pretty good this year. And they signed Brian Reynolds too long-term deal, which is cool. But I was like, dude, if we go to Pittsburgh and then it's during baseball season, we have to time it, have to do a game with a Bucks game. And I have to be, I have to sit behind home plate and be able to look like somewhere in the upper deck, whatever. And just have that view of the city with the three rivers right there. It's Speaker 3 00:26:17 Unbelievable. Make sure you go to an evening game. Not a day game. I mean it's still cool, but like when the lights go on and everything. Yeah. And then the, cuz they have this one building, I don't remember what it was. Cause I went, I went to a game there last year and it was beautiful. Speaker 0 00:26:27 Yeah. How many parks have you been to? Speaker 3 00:26:30 Oh, Speaker 0 00:26:30 You've probably been to Speaker 3 00:26:31 Quite a not not, not really. I don't think that many. I mean I've been to, I've been to uh, Seattle Safeco, but now it's T-Mobile. Speaker 0 00:26:37 It's, it'll always be safe. It'll always be safe. Safe. Always safe. Be safe. It'll always Speaker 3 00:26:41 Be Safeco. Same with same with the the Lakers. It's always gonna be Staples. Yeah. Always. But um, so I've went to Safeco T-Mobile. I've went to P N C I've went to, Speaker 0 00:26:57 Is that it? Speaker 3 00:26:58 It might be. But I've went to, like, I've went to the Arizona Spring training games. I went to, oh. Spring Speaker 0 00:27:03 Training has to be a lot of, Speaker 3 00:27:04 It's so much Speaker 0 00:27:04 Fun. Much, I, I have family that's gone down to Florida like a lot for the, Speaker 3 00:27:08 Got the grape three league. I got a crazy story about my first time gonna spring training I Speaker 0 00:27:11 Remember really kept back in the Cactus League. Speaker 3 00:27:13 Yeah. So like, I, we went down there, I think it was actually 2017 or 2018 whenever Cody Bellinger was just getting called up back his rookie year. Right. Wow. Let's listen to this though. Okay. So I was, we were there for spring break during the spring training. And me, I'm, I'm always that kid who goes out there, Hey, can I get a ball? Whatever, like, and always trying to find a way to get a ball. Exactly. She Speaker 0 00:27:34 Shot did. Speaker 3 00:27:35 Yeah. And I went down there and it was after the game and I watched the, the Dodgers, they were playing I think, I don't know San Diego maybe or somebody. But it was like not all the main players were playing cuz it's spring training. But this kid named Cody Bellinger that I had no idea. No one really knew who he was yet. There was this, uh, I was like, Hey, can I get a ball down there? Cuz I seen one that had like, some kind of riding on him. Like that was my ball. I dropped it. You know, I've kind of been a liar. But, uh, I'm like, can I get that ball? I dropped it and the guy, some guy, it doesn't even have a name. Like dude didn't have a name, just number like 46 or something. He's like, toss it up. I look at it and said, Cody Bollinger's first hit. And I'm like, who the hell is this guy? Right. And it has the date and everything on it. And we get back and we just, we start watching that that year of baseball and Cody just goes off. Yeah. And I'm like, I got his ball, dude. And I d I tried DMing him. I'm like, Hey, I got your first ball if you want it. Like, he has never, never, never seen it. But like I have his first technical, I believe it's his first technical big league hit. That was in spring training. Speaker 0 00:28:36 Okay. Well, Cody Bellinger, we will tag you in this clip and uh, if you want this ball, hit up our boy Caleb Lathrop. Yeah. And um, we can work something out. Maybe a Jersey exchange or something. Don't Speaker 3 00:28:46 Know. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:28:47 Something something. Dude, they're talking about him going in the Yankees potentially. We are very in on him because we are struggling right now. Yeah, we're still, that's the thing. I'm fucking spoiled bro. We have a winning record and it's like the world is falling down in New York and it, and he's a gr one of the better lefty hitters in the last 10 years. And his dad, clay Bellinger was like the ultimate utility guy. Dude played like seven different positions. Yeah. All over the field in the Yankees dynasty in the late nineties, early two thousands. It's be really cool for Cody Ballinger to be Yankee Yankee. But if you want that ball, hit up our boy Caleb. For sure. Definitely. Um, but um, I've, I've been to, as far as, as far as ballparks, like I've been to obviously old Yankees Stadium, new Yankees stand. But for the old one, I like it when the building shakes a little bit and there's just some energy about it. Went to Shea Stadium, it was a fucking dump. City Field's supposed to be nice. I haven't been there yet. That could be the New York Yankees fan of me talking shit about the Mets don't like them. Um, I've been to Baltimore. Baltimore is, fuck Speaker 3 00:29:43 My buddy's gotta go there. And he, they're, they're like, it was so awesome. Speaker 0 00:29:46 It is the nicest of those stadiums that were built in the nineties, bro. It is. It is still fucking nice. I don't like that fucking wall. They literally built it, I think because the Yankees were hitting so many home runs there and they pushed that wall 25, 30 feet back with Jack It up in the Air City of Baltimore's a shit hole. But like, but the but the, and it's no kn hole Baltimore. That's Baltimore. No, no knowledge. We're, we're all, we're all, we're all Northeastern mid-Atlantic trash. New New York, Philly, um, Boston, Baltimore, DC We're all, we're all, we could all talk shit in each other. Cause we're all the fucking same. Um, I've been to, um, Minnesota. Speaker 3 00:30:17 Oh, I've never field, I I don't think I've been to the state of Speaker 0 00:30:20 Minnesota. Yeah. I went out there when, uh, when when I was on the road with Trey, uh, with Trey Lewis, uh, we were doing the, it was one of the first dates of the, uh, the Kid Rock tour and we had the time during the day. So we went to it and I got a, I mean it was beautiful stadium target field. It's cool. Oh, Speaker 3 00:30:34 That's when they had the new one, right? Yeah. They built that in 11. Speaker 0 00:30:36 Yeah, they built that in 11. So that was, this was last year that we went and, um, it was, it was cool. But the fans are just so not into it really. It's just the Midwest. They're so fucking nice and quiet. I'm sitting there heckling cause I'm, it's against. And it's funny enough, it's against the Mariners, it's twins Mariners. Um, our buddy, um, Terry, uh, Terry Adams, who was playing in Trey's band at the time, big Mariners fan from Alabama, but a big Mariners fan. So we were like, fuck it, let's go to the game. Yankee or um, twins Mariners. And I was root hard for the Mariners. I was yelling my ass off at Carlos Correa, you know, being a Yankees fan and all these twins fans, nobody would tell me to shut up. I was literally, we had tickets for the upper deck and we worked our way down all the way to like the field level. Oh, that's cause nobody, nobody cares that, Speaker 3 00:31:19 That's always a fun thing Speaker 0 00:31:20 To do. And we were and we were there and I was just yelling at Carlos Cara yelling at Carlos Cara and Gary Sanchez. Um, those were the guys I was heckling. But, so I've been there. And then we went to, was the second game ever at, um, globe Life in Arlington. Really? It was in 2021. So Covid was still a thing. But remember they were still do Yeah. They were doing the full capacity tickets and everything. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. We were there for that second game. Um, that the of, of the parks existence. That's so awful. And we sat like right behind the field and stuff. And that place was like, damn. That's how I'm thinking. The um, that's how it must feel when the roof's closed at Safeco. Speaker 3 00:31:53 I've never, it was always open. Cause Speaker 0 00:31:55 I've, I've Speaker 3 00:31:56 It's it's like they, I feel like sometimes they, they like close it for not like they shouldn't have closed it. Yeah. I'm like, why are you Speaker 0 00:32:05 Home? Field it, man. Make it feel like the kingdom a little bit. You know? Yeah. Give it that kind of a, but Globe life was, uh, really cool. But I'm, that's why I'm excited to see the Titans have this, this new stadium. Super excited and you know, with, with it being a fucking super stadium and it being a fucking, um, and it being like enclosed and everything and much more in a lot more seats and everything, they're gonna be able to do. Like, Nashville's gonna be in the running to have a Super Bowl. I hope so. Nashville. No, we, like, we are, that's part of why they're doing it. Nashville's gonna be, we could have fucking WrestleMania. We could have fucking the final four. We could have Oh yeah. A bigger level bowl game. We could do like big international soccer friendlies. You could do all kinds of shit by having a stadium of that size. So Yeah. It'll be, it'll be cool. And I love that you're in the sports, because that's my thing. I wanted to, I wanted to be on ESPN when I was a kid. Like Speaker 3 00:32:51 That's, that's all I've ever want. Like as Luke kid, I wanted to be in the Little League World series. I always wanted to do all those. Speaker 0 00:32:55 Yeah. Like, yeah. See I wanted to be the guy talking on like the commentator. Oh really? Like on sports center like Stuart Scott and like Mike Green. Like Mike and Mike and like all that shit. Like, and then I transitioned into the country music stuff when I was in college and I grew up listening to the country and doing all that stuff. But it's cool to see those kind of parallels. So you've been in town now, you said you moved here. Was it 2020 or 21? 2020. 2020. So it's been three years now, right? Or coming up on three Speaker 3 00:33:22 Years. Yeah, somewhere. Right in there Speaker 0 00:33:23 Somewhere right in there. Speaker 3 00:33:24 I'm trying to think if it was the 19 fall into 20. It was No, no, no. Speaker 0 00:33:28 Been, Speaker 3 00:33:28 It was fall of 20. It was a fall. It was August of 2020. That's when it, August of 2020. Because I remember we came in for fall ball at, at Cumberland and we had to do fall ball and then went into that winter and whatnot. And so yeah. And then I hurt myself the spring of 21. Speaker 0 00:33:42 How many guys are chewing on a southern JUCO baseball team? Speaker 3 00:33:46 Um, well Juco was back in Oregon. Okay. Speaker 0 00:33:49 So this was Speaker 3 00:33:49 Different. But even in Oregon. Yes. It was like, actually the funniest part is our team, our JUCO team, we had, I mean, you know those huge dumpsters like the the round one? Like the tubs. The tubs of Yeah. Yeah. Stoker. We had like seven of those full of Zen emp, empty zen pouches. Zen Zen. Okay. Speaker 0 00:34:08 I'm a, I'm a zen I'm a zen guy right now. I Speaker 3 00:34:10 Like zens. Speaker 0 00:34:10 I just recently, cuz I was, I've been a damn nicotine tobacco fiend for a long fucking time. Like it's dangerous dude. Since col like my first, I remember my first dip was, um, was uh, with skull mint. And I tried to be a Billy badass and fill my whole bottom part. You're like, Speaker 3 00:34:27 I'm Speaker 0 00:34:27 Great dude. I tried, I tried to fill my whole bottom lip up and I wasn't spitting enough. And I got sick when I was, I was dding. I wasn't even drunk. I was dding my boy and his girl. And as soon now fiance, shout out to Matt Cummings and Grayson Koda. Um, it was right after we graduated high, right? It was two weeks before I was, we were going off to college like that summer of summer of 2013. And I just, I I yanked <laugh>. I yanked it was sco mint pouches, bro. And that, that's, that's what Matt McIlwain dips. He's a, he's a min guy. I think he probably just, you could see he's got the little Coke bottle right there. Oh yeah. Um, but I've recently gotten into those zens because I dipped for a long time. We used to go through Tubbs of STOs all the time in school, in the dorm room, bro. And then, um, I was, for a long time I was like a pack and a half, two packs a day of, of diet Marlboros Marlboro lights. And now I'm doing the Zen thing and it's like, I got, I got one in right now. Yeah. And I don't, I don't, I gut it like I don't Speaker 3 00:35:23 Spit it. Oh dude, I can't, there's, I mean, see I gut it. My buddies do that and I'm like, I don't know how you do it. Like Speaker 0 00:35:27 Well, I, I couldn't gut dip. I knew guys that could gut cop lc. Oh yeah. I knew guys that were cutting that were, that were gutting. Fine. Cut bro. Yeah. Like fuck that. No, but the zzi I do too. And then I know guys, what are you, are you uh, three milligrams or six? Six. Six. Do you ever do two sixes? Speaker 3 00:35:43 I I've done four before. Speaker 0 00:35:45 You've done four? Yeah. You've done 24 milligrams to the face Speaker 3 00:35:48 To the dude I've done. Because I was like, I was like, cuz I used to vape all the time. Like Speaker 0 00:35:52 Yeah, I did that too. The time you, what were you, were you one of those douch shoes with the fucking big coil things? Speaker 3 00:35:56 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wasn't one of those douches. I was, dude, I was trying to low like, I would rather low. Like, I was always like low key. Like I didn't like people saying that I did it, but it was like, cuz I never did, dude, I didn't do anything in high school. I didn't either. I didn't, I didn't drink. I didn't have a, like I think the most I had in high school was one beer and I faked being drunk. Yeah. And I'm, I'm still here to this day. So if y'all are hearing that, this is your little shout out that I still get made fun of for acting drunk. And uh, yeah. I, yeah, it was, I was, because I was like, there's no point. I was so focused on sports and everything that I was like, I don't want to ever ruin the opportunity that I have because I'm already at a disadvantage with my height. Speaker 3 00:36:35 I'm already at a disadvantage because I'm from a really small town. I need everything that I can to go towards this. So I was like, I never did anything. And then the first day, the very first day I moved into Juco, I got drunk with my roommate. Cause he is like, Hey, try this. This is Drake's whiskey or something, shit. And I'm like, sure. I've never had it. He is like, we're gonna, we're gonna start off real slow. We're gonna have like three drinks and we're gonna see how you're feeling. Dude, after a drink and a half, I'm like, just messed up. And I'm like, yeah, now I know what it's like being drunk. And I'm was definitely not drunk when I said I was drunk. Speaker 0 00:37:09 <laugh>. Yeah dude. I was on. And it's funny now cause I'm, I just celebrated seven years of sobriety from alcohol. Like Speaker 3 00:37:15 I have. That's, I have, I've stopped drinking too. Speaker 0 00:37:16 Yeah. It's how, how long? How Speaker 3 00:37:18 Long? It just, I mean I used dude it was bad. Like from that day it was like, and then so it went from, it went from, I didn't really drink that freshman year that much. Like, it was once in a while, like on the weekends, like cuz baseball and whatnot. But like, I, uh, sorry mom. But, um, it was like, it got bad. Like it got really bad when, like, I lost two of my best friends, uh, in 2020. And I didn't really have anything to like lean on or go towards in a sense. Cuz like no one really knows what to do when you do that. Like, when that happens. Yeah. So it's like I got, it was really bad and it was like I'm beyond blessed that I've like not in that anymore. And so like, I stopped, I the first time I ever stopped like it, cuz it used to be like a fifth or a half, a fifth like a day. Speaker 0 00:38:04 That's where I, that's where I was at. It Speaker 3 00:38:06 Was bad. Was And I was like, and I could, I didn't even puke and I was like, I was like, this is not good. Like I should not be, be able to do this and still function and not puke. Like this is bad. Yeah. And like, so I stopped for a month and that was like six months ago, what? Half a year ago, whatever. And then I drank a little more and then like new year's, like I started getting like sick, like hangovers the next day. Like where I, cuz I never used to get like hangovers and like I used to started getting like sick and puking like every time I drank after that. And I was like, okay, I don't even wanna do this anymore. So then like I, I don't think I've drank in like couple weeks, month, somewhere in there. Like I just, I'd rather not. Yeah. Like it's like yeah, it's fun for however long. Yeah. But then you're like, the next day you're like one down and depressed and cuz it, it's alcohol is depressing and it's like, I'd rather not, I'd rather just wake up happy and like go be productive and go do something. Speaker 0 00:39:02 100%. Yeah dude. Yeah. But it was funny cuz like you talk about not, not drinking and not doing stuff in high school, I was on a thing called the Varsity Athletes Against Substance Abuse. And I was the guy that would go to <laugh>. I was, I was the, I was the, I was the damn captain of it. My senior year I was the first kid on the football team to, to be on this, in this club. And we'd go to the elementary schools in our district and go to the middle school and tell kids why they shouldn't be drinking, don't smoking, chewing, all that. And then now I've got a, I've got a damn date on my arm of when I had to quit drinking because I was a damn alcoholic. Like, it's, it's wild how that shit works, dude. You know? It's, it's, it's crazy and like, but I, I get, I feel you with the not doing the stuff in, in high school because it was, I just, I didn't, I didn't wanna let, I didn't wanna let those that were believing in me down. Exactly. And I Exactly. I felt like I had too much to lose by doing it and stuff. So you talk about losing friends in 2020, is that, where is that where, um, where Heaven came from? That's where Speaker 3 00:39:59 Heaven down here came from. Yep. Speaker 0 00:40:00 So, and that song, I gotta say by the way, and I wanted to start off the episode with it, but I kind of, kind of forgot to do it at the beginning, um, Nashville this past Friday. I don't know if, did you know Sam at all? Sam Johnson? I, Speaker 3 00:40:11 I'm not personally, Speaker 0 00:40:12 Not personally. So Sam was a big part of our like, race rowdy family and played our rounds tons of times and really tight with a lot of the artists that, that we do a lot of stuff with. And he passed on Friday, had a seizure unexpectedly and everything. And that was, I was listening. I always like to listen when I have, when we have musical acts on this, on this program, I always like to listen to the songs on my way over here to be like, I'm gonna just freshen up, you know? Yeah. And I listen to that one and I was like, damn, this, this hits hard right now. So writing that, that song and the creation of that song, I gotta say somebody like that's helping me, that's helping a lot of the guys and girls in our circle right now. Because we, we wish that, we wish that heaven was down here and that we had Sam and I can feel the, the realness of you writing about your, your buddies that had passed. Like, it music's so fucking powerful, bro. Speaker 3 00:41:02 It's so Speaker 0 00:41:02 Powerful. It's cool. So you had just started doing music. You, you didn't have a super musical background. You'd always listen to it and always kind of sang along to the radio and sang with your buddies and shit like that. But was that the one of the first ones that you had kind of put out and, and written? Speaker 3 00:41:18 So the furry first song that I ever put out was Buzz on. Yeah. And Speaker 0 00:41:22 Listen to that one too. My Speaker 3 00:41:24 Buddy and my buddy, uh, I met him on TikTok. So I used to go on TikTok live all the time. And I like, that's how I kind of gained a lot of my followers and whatnot on TikTok. And I met a guy named his name's Dipper. And he, do you Speaker 0 00:41:36 Know Dipper? Oh bro. Dude, Speaker 3 00:41:38 Bro. Dipper is Speaker 0 00:41:39 Legits talk. I, I'm looking forward to this conversation, but let's, um, let's touch on Dipper for for a second. He's a killer. So Nikki t shout out to to Nikki t um, he, him and I will always send people back and forth to each other and always Speaker 3 00:41:52 Like he was singing Dipper all the, the Speaker 0 00:41:53 Time. Bro, bro. Cause he used to work at Big Loud. Speaker 3 00:41:55 I know. And that's like me, me and d were talking about that, that was our dream to get there. Speaker 0 00:41:59 And that is his, that is like when you, when you listen to, when you listen to, to Dipper and you listen to his vibe and listen to all that. You're like, he's singing the same shit. That the, like a very similar stylistic in his own way in, in his, in his. Cause he's a, he's a northwest guy too, Speaker 3 00:42:15 Right? No, he's a, he's from Texas. Speaker 0 00:42:16 Oh, he's from Texas. That's what it is. Yeah. I knew he was from somewhere west of here. Yeah. Um, but doing it in, in his own way to where it's, it's not cookie cutter, it's not imitating anyone else, but it's stylistically similar to what guys like Irn, what Morgan are putting out. Similar to what guys like the Block Brothers. What John Byron what? Jordan Dazi our friend from down under what they're writing Speaker 3 00:42:37 Lot. Jordan Dazy Speaker 0 00:42:39 Dipper is very similar to to that. Yeah. And it's, he's a lot of people are slipping or slipping or sleeping on or on, on Dipper right now. Yeah. And is he in town full time? Speaker 3 00:42:52 No, he, uh, not that I know of. He's, I think he's still in Texas, but, uh, I think he just signed with somebody really? I'm pretty sure if, if I'm not mistaken, like it was like we're talking about it and he signed something. I don't know what it was, whether it was a pub deal, whether it was a record deal or Speaker 0 00:43:06 Management or something. Speaker 3 00:43:06 I think it was, I, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was a record deal, but I don't want, Speaker 0 00:43:10 I hope so. Good. Speaker 3 00:43:10 Me too. Because he, he deserves it. I mean he's, Speaker 0 00:43:12 So how, how'd you get connected with him? Was it just over the internet? Speaker 3 00:43:14 Just TikTok. We were just on TikTok live and like, I was just doing to people and whatnot and we started messing around and he pulled up this song. He started playing this song that I remember. I heard that he like did a little thing of it. I'm like, oh, you're the kid who did this song. Like, and he's like, yeah. And I'm like, dude, love that song. And like, we should write. And he's like, oh dude. So down. Then we wrote Buzz on literally the first song we ever wrote together was Buzz on and Speaker 0 00:43:35 Then over like in Person Over? Speaker 3 00:43:36 No, over um, over FaceTime. Wow. And we were just messing around like, um, just started playing little fun stuff. Cuz I love Ernest. Like he's him, Ernest Hardy and Morgan are like, for sure they have to be, everyone's in the sense of like coming up right now. Like their favorites writing styles. Yeah. Just cause it's like, so it's like unique and different, like everyone, like that's how you have to do it to make it, yeah. So like I, we always like, we loved Locals. Only the, uh, Speaker 0 00:44:07 His album. That's my favorite. I love the Western stuff that he's doing. I love it Speaker 3 00:44:10 Too. Love it too. But like, that is a vibe, dude. Speaker 0 00:44:12 Local locals only like sugar and all those songs off that record, dude. And I love the, the Grand Theft Auto kind of music video. Do the music Speaker 3 00:44:19 Video to that, that fired me up. Speaker 0 00:44:20 So cool. Such a, such a cool, fired me up. Such a cool vibe. And it makes sense. Hearing, hearing buzzing. Like it is, it is of that kind of style. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:44:27 It was like, cuz we're like, we didn't, I didn't know I was gonna release it. I didn't know anything. And now Dipper's releasing it too. His version of it too. Oh Speaker 0 00:44:35 No. Shit. Speaker 3 00:44:35 Yeah, it's, I think it's supposed to come out July. Speaker 0 00:44:39 It's coming out end of the month. Speaker 3 00:44:40 Yeah. He, I, he posted about it all the time. I gotta let Look Dipper. Speaker 0 00:44:44 No shit. And I love his name. I love that. I love that. His name is fucking, Speaker 3 00:44:47 His name's Mason. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:44:48 But I love that he, I but love that he has the stage name and people are like, oh Dipper. I know a Dipper do. Oh wow. I know, I know. There's a, there's a Dipper behind the camera over there. Matt McIlwain. He's a dipper. He, Speaker 3 00:44:58 It comes out. Oh, what does it say? Speaker 0 00:45:02 That's cool to have a second version of, of that song too. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:45:05 It's crazy cause it's like completely releasing the song. Next Buzz on. I think he's gonna say it on here. Speaker 0 00:45:18 Dude. Dude, Speaker 3 00:45:19 Nice. Hold on. I think he'll say it. Speaker 0 00:45:22 It's like the lyrics. That's a cool vibe, dude. He's like hippie shit. He, Speaker 3 00:45:26 Because he loves like, Speaker 0 00:45:28 Yeah, Speaker 3 00:45:29 He didn't say, but I think it's July. It's coming around July. But, um, he, cuz he, anytime we talked about stuff he loves like the, like Young Keith Urban, like that vibe and like that cool. Like, he, he likes like mixing that stuff in and I think it's awesome. Yeah. So it's like for sure, like you were saying, like it's definitely like his own type of like uniqueness with like what's still cool right now. Yeah. And it's such a cool vibe. Speaker 0 00:45:52 That's Speaker 3 00:45:52 Awesome. So yeah, we wrote that one. That was our, the first song I ever put out. And then next was, uh, a song called Every Time. And um, it's funny cuz I wrote Buzz on with Dipper every time I wrote with my good buddy, Caleb Mills. Alec Taylor. I think that might be it. I think that was it for that one. Then Heaven down here was Caleb, uh, mills, Alec Taylor, Shawn Dunbar, and Ethan Wynn and Me. Speaker 0 00:46:22 No Shit. Speaker 3 00:46:23 And yeah. Speaker 0 00:46:24 And Caleb Mills is a, is a name that, um, we know Alabama because he's an Alabama guy and he's great, great kid. Maybe I from New York, I'm an honorary Alabamian roll, roll eagle or whatever, you know, like he makes both of them. Um, Caleb's a a kid that, and that's the cool part about Nashville and the cool part about this, this songwriting, country music thing is you're a small town kid from the Pacific Northwest. Caleb's a small town kid from the deep south. Yeah. Dipper's a small town kid from Texas. Like, and you're getting to, to meet these people and share these experiences and bring your experiences to these other people in a, in a creative space. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you never would've met a guy like that. Yeah. If you hadn't, if you hadn't been doing this, if you hadn't gone on TikTok, if you hadn't like all the little steps in the journey of the last few years. Speaker 3 00:47:06 It's crazy. Speaker 0 00:47:07 It's wild. Cuz Caleb has has got some smoke in the Southeast. Speaker 3 00:47:10 Oh, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like the first song that we ever wrote Beyond Blessed. It's right for at least for right now, I believe it's still as big a song. The first song we wrote was, is Is Survive. Have you heard Speaker 0 00:47:21 That one? No. Shit. I think I, I had Speaker 3 00:47:22 To have, I've seen S U R V I V Speaker 0 00:47:24 I've seen him play full band at Live Oak cuz he, he'll do kills it. He'll do a lot of, um, the, uh, magic Hill stuff. Yeah. That, um, Tracy Moore does. Um, yeah, dude. But, but heaven down here. Like, it just, it's it's hitting really hard right now. And then I'm sure like were those buddies back home or were those buddies here? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:47:44 From back Speaker 0 00:47:44 Home. So I'm sure that's song grew Speaker 3 00:47:46 Up like one of 'em, his name is Brandon Howes and uh, gage Little, so Gage was one of me and Brandon. So he was my best friend. Like growing up we were like, we always fought so we were like literally brothers. Yeah. Cause I never had a brother until like, recently, like a couple, I don't know how many years back, but, uh, never grew up with a brothers. So he was literally like, we were always hanging out, always doing things, always getting into trouble, always whatever. And it was like, so when we got into high school, obviously we knew Gage before that, but like, we grew up with him too. But we, like, he was our, like we looked up to him in the sense of it cuz he was a couple years ahead of us and uh, he, uh, he was the leader, the captain of football. Speaker 3 00:48:25 He was a quarterback gage was and um, an a great outstanding guy. And then 2020, he passed away in April and from a side-by-side accident. And I was back home at that point from college and went up to where he, um, wrecked and his, I think stepbrother was with him. And um, and then soon as it happened, like obviously like I said, things go like wildfire. Like everyone starts calling people and everyone starts getting phone calls and it's like, first person that calls me is Brandon. And he's like, is this true? Like, is is this, did this really happen? Whatnot type of thing. And I'm like, yeah, I'm here right now. And like, cuz I, I got a phone call and then I drove right up to where it was cuz it was like right up on the hill behind our town, like not very far. Like wow. 10 minute drive and they were coming home and uh, uh, they lost control, uh, coming down, uh, like a dirt road. But it was like, it had like shale rock on it. Yeah. So I think it was coming down in like a tire cotton it flipping. Yeah. And the roll cage got him. And uh, yeah, Speaker 0 00:49:27 Well it's really short dude. It's dude Speaker 3 00:49:29 Never's so short and you never ever, ever know when something can happen. And it's like ever since, like that's, those two things have happened. Like, I, I love deeper and I mean more when I say things cuz like, you never know. Like I tell my, I tell my best friends all the time when I hang up with them, I'm like, Hey, I love you dude. Like always now. Yeah. And like I've never, I've, I don't think I've ever left a phone call from any of my really close friends. I don't say I love you. Yeah. Because it's like, you never know. Speaker 0 00:49:58 Yeah, dude, it's, and that's how, that's how I felt like getting the call from my buddy. Uh, our buddy Ethan Willis was the one that called Nikki. T and i, we were on, we went up to um, up to uh, Ohio to, for the Eric Church Musk and I and Travis tr show this weekend, which was, which was awesome and it was a great show. But getting that call, you never like, and I, Ethan and I hadn't spoken in a, in a minute cuz just like Speaker 3 00:50:18 When you get that call from somebody you haven't talked to in forever, your heart instantly saying no. And especially after that, like when you get, I I'm sure when you got that call you're like, Hmm, Speaker 0 00:50:25 What does Ethan need? Yeah. Yeah. I Speaker 3 00:50:26 Was like, what does he need? But like now since like things have, like we've, I swear our town has lost so many people in this last like four years. Like really, or five years. Like my cousin, my cousin passed away. Believe he's my cousin in the sense of it. Like I've always called him my cousin. Yeah. But I think he, I think he actually is my cousin. But, um, he passed away my freshman year and uh, and so like that happened and then the Gage and Brandon passing in 2020. And what, Speaker 0 00:50:55 What happened, what happened to Brandon because Speaker 3 00:50:57 That's wildly, Brandon was, he was on his way to work and um, uh, he just asked his, uh, his girlfriend to Miriam like a month or like within that last month. And they were planning everything. And um, he was on his way to work. He got a call up to go to work in Washington cuz he was doing, I don't remember what it was like construction or something. And on his way to work early in the morning and they were in this rural part in Washington, I think. And it was like this four-way intersection. And I think what the cop said that it was like the sun was in a weird place on the horizon and it's hard to see and whatnot. And he apparently like looked both ways, whatever. And then went and there was a Silverado with a utility trailer on the back hit him door side. And it just, I mean he, he, he was alive for passed away on the fourth I think like three, four or five days. Like they, they took him to the hospital but he was in Speaker 0 00:51:49 That critical Speaker 3 00:51:50 Condition. Like he was like kind of like, just like not there. I wouldn't, I if like, I think they could have got him, but I don't know. Yeah. Like it wouldn't have been him either way. Yeah. Like Speaker 0 00:51:58 That's, that's where it Speaker 3 00:52:00 Gets tough. Yeah. I, it really sucks in that part cause it's like I wouldn't want to see him like that. And I bet you he wouldn't want to be like that. Like Speaker 0 00:52:07 His family and all, Speaker 3 00:52:08 Like everyone, it's, it's like that's the hardest part of everything. It's like I I but the one thing I'm beyond grateful is, and I hope, I hope on everything that he could at least hear I gotta, I gotta say goodbye to him. So that was like something that, and that sucked cuz I was on, I was on the baseball field when all that happened. Like, I was on in practice. Well first off I got the call, I was in class and then I practice later that day and I got a phone call and gotta say goodbye to him while I was at practice and I told my coach, I'm like, I, if I get a phone call, I have to answer to it and I have to have my phone on me. Yeah. And he was completely understandable and it was terrible, terrible time of life. But, Speaker 0 00:52:45 But yeah, that song, the song helps a lot of people man. And that's the, that's, that's Speaker 3 00:52:49 The main reason Speaker 0 00:52:49 I wrote it. That songwriting is so, so a such a big therapy for guys and girls like you that, that write 'em and, and sing them. And I'm sure every time you perform that song, you, you think of Gaja Boy Speaker 3 00:52:59 Then Always. Speaker 0 00:52:59 Always. And there's people in the crowd that are thinking about Speaker 3 00:53:03 Somebody that they've lost. Yeah. Dudes. That's the main reason I don't, like when I started this, I've always, I've always thought this way is like, I don't care if I get big and famous. I don't want to be famous. I don't want to be like, yeah, I would love to have money in the sense of where I can do this for a living, but I'm not worried about getting, oh, I need to get a new Porsche or a new, like a new 10 million. Speaker 0 00:53:22 I don't shit doesn't matter, dude. Speaker 3 00:53:23 It doesn't, and that's, that's another thing when you lose people you don't like, you realize like, and you look at like all the huge crazy rich famous people that are like killing themselves and it's like they're not happy. It's, they have all everything they could possibly want, but there's something that they're missing. It's either faith in God in the sense of that or it's, or it's a love me of member, like a, a girl to actually love and not there for money or in the sense of that it's like money can't buy happiness in the general senses of it. Yeah. I can buy fun times for a while, but like in the deep sense of like yourself, it, it money can't do that. Yeah. How Speaker 0 00:53:58 Old are you again? 23. Okay. You're very wise behind your, beyond your years, bro. Well, thank you. I was not, when I was 23 and moved here and I was bouncing on, bro, I was not thinking in that mindset like you've and the life experiences I'm sure are what helps cause that. Definitely. And dude, like it's fucking, I'm happy to call you a friend buddy. For real. I'm Speaker 3 00:54:17 Happy. I'm happy that I i not to get off complete topic, but I, do you even remember this, it was the first year I moved here in 21. You were, you guys were doing something at, at Whiskey Jam and Speaker 0 00:54:29 At Whiskey Jam or at Live Oak. Speaker 3 00:54:30 You were at Whiskey Jam, but you were having, it was either 21 or 22, but you guys were, you were hosting something there and you, it was like you and a couple other people. And I came up to you, I'm like, Hey, I, I like your raised rowdy stuff. I was wondering if I could get a show with you guys and you said, yeah, just email this or whatever. Yeah. And, and like, I think I forgot the email or something, Speaker 0 00:54:50 But I'm like, yeah, long the time went by. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:54:51 And I'm like, didn't even think about it. But it's funny how Full Circle comes back to all that. Speaker 0 00:54:55 Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. And it's, and I'm, you're one of those guys the first time I remember really hearing you at one of our, I think it was the Rowdy on the Speaker 3 00:55:02 Road wasn't the one where they invited like I subbed for Gavin. Speaker 0 00:55:05 Yeah. Yeah. You subbed in dude. And that who, who'd you sub Speaker 3 00:55:08 For? Gavin Lucas. He's a Speaker 0 00:55:09 Good buddy. Yeah. Gavin's fantastic. Unbeliev too. And we, we love him and yeah. That was that, that night you subbed for fucking Gavin. Everybody came up to me and was like, who's this Caleb kid <laugh>? I was like, I just met him tonight. Like, Speaker 3 00:55:22 I Speaker 0 00:55:22 Don't know. And so what do you got going on for the rest of this year? Like what, what's kind of the plan? Do you have a team in place that's kinda helping you with shit Speaker 3 00:55:29 Or? I'm kind trying to build the team right now. Like I'm trying to get everything that I, like I have a new song coming out that I'm, I, it's my favorite song in the sense of like, what I wanted it to be is exactly how I wanted Speaker 0 00:55:41 It. Okay. Because Speaker 3 00:55:42 I have two versions of it coming out. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:55:43 Who you, who you, um, who you working with on the producer side? Speaker 3 00:55:46 So on this one I'm working all the other ones I worked with, uh, Steven Sharp, like the ones that I have out right now. Okay. Great producer. Um, and then I'm working with, his name's Gary Garris. Speaker 0 00:55:57 Okay. Yeah. Do you know who Speaker 3 00:55:58 That is? Yep. I don't, with Kane Brown and all that. Speaker 0 00:56:00 I don't know him personally, but the dude is like, he's awesome. A legend. Awesome. Absolutely legend. He's awesome. And I've heard just such a, such a good vibe and a guy that brings out the best thing you as an artist. Speaker 3 00:56:11 A hundred percent. And he's a great, he because he's really good at like, cuz I know what I like, I have a, I feel like I have a very, very visionary brain. And like, same with that's why like songwriting, I like, I love it because like I know exactly what I want to get to, but like, when it comes to stuff like that, I have no idea what I'm doing in that sense. So I'm like telling him like, Hey, can you make this sound sort of like this and do make it like whatever. He knows exactly what I'm talking about and I'm, I don't even know what I'm saying. Yeah. But he knows like, it just, we blend perfectly and it's like, that's exactly how I wanted it. And it's, it came out unbelievable. And I, so the new song is gonna be is is uh, I seen a cowboy cry. It's that one that I played that Yeah. That uh, uh, Heath was like, that's how you do it. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, this song is sick. So like I'm having that slow down version, hopefully done a little later. It's gonna probably a couple weeks, month after I released this one. And then I got this like Rocky, it's like, it, it hits it's that version of it. Yeah. So that's coming out August 4th. Speaker 0 00:57:07 Yeah. The, the artist producer combo is similar to like the battery mate thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> when you're, when you're on the mound or you're in the bullpen and you got your catcher. Yeah. And they, they know what you can do. They know if your Speaker 3 00:57:17 Catcher knows what your tendencies are and like knows what you like. Yeah. You dude, it's so tough to, like, if you're a hitter, it's, you're gonna have a tough time. Speaker 0 00:57:24 Yeah. And it's the same thing with a, with a producer knowing like, this is, this is the kind of, this is the kind of production that these are the, the cadences that you want to sing in. This is like what you're trying to say. And on that same message, I'm thinking back, you played the, the, um, was it the, uh, the play The Hits Night? Listen. Speaker 3 00:57:41 Yeah, it was play the Hits. That's why I was like, dude, you Speaker 0 00:57:43 Were on play. I was on Speaker 3 00:57:44 Play. The Hits without a Speaker 0 00:57:45 Season Rowdy event was play the Hits. Yeah bro. I was like, you were, you were one of the, and that yeah, that was when Heath gave that fucking it was the Speaker 3 00:57:51 Last one. Speaker 0 00:57:51 Yeah. Was when Speaker 3 00:57:52 I was the last round. And I'm like, why am I Speaker 0 00:57:54 Here? That was when, that was when Heath gave that whole speech and and Rocking a Hard Place was at number one that fired. Yeah. Dude. He was like, fuck a 401k, you know, Speaker 3 00:58:02 Dude that fired me up. Speaker 0 00:58:04 They say you can't do this shit, you can do this. Speaker 3 00:58:06 I'm Can dude. I'm like, I'm sitting there like, it was like Rocky. And I'm like, I'm ready to go in Coach. And Speaker 0 00:58:11 That was the Sunday of CMA Fest. Yep. Coming out of it. Speaker 3 00:58:13 Yeah. And it was like, it was packed Speaker 0 00:58:14 Kind of. It was, it was, it was a big crowd. And there was that drunk lady from Michigan. Yep. That was just yelling while he's, cuz we have a, we have a very good angle. Ike, um, Ike Everard, I don't know if you Speaker 3 00:58:25 Met him. Yeah. Ike he Speaker 0 00:58:26 Working Speaker 3 00:58:27 Shit that's, he's been working with me like Speaker 0 00:58:28 That's right. All the time. Ike is doing all of your content. Speaker 3 00:58:31 Ike shout out to Ike. He's, he's Speaker 0 00:58:32 A g I love that. The Paci again. Cause he's a Seattle kid. Yeah. So I love that. That's so fucking cool. He's Speaker 3 00:58:37 Gotta go back to the All-Star game. Speaker 0 00:58:38 Yeah, I know. And he was, he Lucky B said, he said, bro, I just met Cece Saba like, you motherfucker Speaker 3 00:58:43 <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:58:45 But yeah, no, he's been doing a lot of this like, cuz we did, so we just shot a, a bunch of acoustic like this, like five song acoustics set at, um, at a, uh, uh, my Buddy Thomas's house. And like, it's such a cool vibe. It looks like, like there's a pool table. Yeah. There's like the, the brick wall in the back like, and it's like, has like bottles everywhere and it's like, it's like music stuff. It's, it was such a cool vibe. We got a smoke machine. It made it look way cool. Hell yeah dude. So we have like this five song thing that we're gonna get. I'm gonna post on YouTube and then obviously like each song, like clips of it and whatnot. Speaker 0 00:59:16 That's, that's smart. Speaker 3 00:59:17 And Ike did an unbelievable Speaker 0 00:59:19 Job. Yeah. Dude. Ike we call him, we call him our, our prince of content. Sir. Ike Everard. Speaker 3 00:59:23 Dude, he's so good. Speaker 0 00:59:24 Print The Prince of Content. We fucking love Ike. Yeah. You gotta ask him about, um, you gotta ask, um, ask Ike about, um, about Ivan. Speaker 3 00:59:32 Ivan, okay. Speaker 0 00:59:32 Ask him about Ivan. Okay. Key West Ivan. Okay. <laugh>. He, he's only in Key West. His name's Ivan. Um, but Speaker 3 00:59:38 Is that when he starts drinking? Speaker 0 00:59:39 That's, well that's, that's Key West. I, <laugh> Key West. I I'm, I'm gonna leave it at that for you. Uh, key West I oh gosh. Um, he's is the man. Um, but so you got, so when, when can we expect the new music? Speaker 3 00:59:49 August 4th? It's uh, Speaker 0 00:59:51 No shit. Yep. It's real. It's coming. It's quick. Speaker 3 00:59:53 It's coming quick. And I'm so excited about it. I feel like this song is gonna be, cuz I got, I got a, um, I got connected really, really gratefully with um, uh, like I said, my vocal Coach Mo and um, she connected me with, uh, one of her friends, her name's Janet. I, I don't even want to try to pronounce her last name cause I can't pronounce. It's like F R O I o Reo or fro something like that. Yeah. And she used to be a VP at, um, to my knowledge, I think this is, don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure she was a VP or a vice VP or something at Atlantic and Sony. And then, okay, now she's doing stuff with like NASA and also like in the, in like the outside distribution stuff. Yeah. And like, and her husband's a VP at, at Black River. Uh uh, Rick. Okay. And, um, so I got connected with her and she's been doing like all this promotion stuff with my song and like, like playlist stuff and like that's huge man. Sirius XM stuff. And like, it's huge. I'm like, this is unbelievable. And I'm like beyond grateful for her. Like she's Yeah. Killing Speaker 0 01:00:52 It. Well, it's proof that good things happen to good people and good people work with good people. Yes. Like, not just in the sense of of of talent or accolades, but just in being a good fucking person. Yeah. Like it all, it all happens man. So dude, I'm super stoked for you and this was super exciting. This was fun man, because I, we've, we've talked and like seen each other out in town. Yeah. Always. We haven't like fucking kicked it, dude. Speaker 3 01:01:14 We, we have, we haven't yet. Where Speaker 0 01:01:15 Where in town do you live at? Speaker 3 01:01:16 I live in Hermitage right now. Like by the airport. Speaker 0 01:01:18 Where, where? In like right by the airport. Speaker 3 01:01:20 Like, so right off the freeway off of um, Speaker 0 01:01:23 So like Hermitage Donaldson area. Like Yeah. Speaker 3 01:01:25 So like, you know when you go past the airport, right? Oh yeah. You go and then exit like 2 21 I think. And you go up and it goes over across. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:01:31 Yeah. That's literally, that's literally my exit. That's Speaker 3 01:01:34 Where Speaker 0 01:01:34 Do you live? I live over by the Walmart. Speaker 3 01:01:37 Oh. So dude you live like 15 minutes from me. I probably 10 Speaker 0 01:01:41 Minutes. Oh, you're by the Kroger, right? Speaker 3 01:01:42 I'm like Pat like more towards the freeway. So like soon, you know the Mapco Speaker 0 01:01:46 Yeah. Everybody knows that Mapco Mac knows that coat. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:01:50 So the, the Mapco and then the Hardee's and then the Jack in the Box and the Walgreens. Oh Speaker 0 01:01:55 Yeah. But I get my haircut right over there. El Lucid Barber. Speaker 3 01:01:58 Yeah. They're unbelievable. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:01:59 If you do you go in there too? Speaker 3 01:02:01 I've been in there. Yeah. I also do kind of come my own hair a little bit too. Cut your own hair a little bit. But fuck. But uh, yeah, if you go down that way, right by the Speaker 0 01:02:09 Down towards Cinco Speaker 3 01:02:11 Cinco Speaker 0 01:02:12 Cinco, the Mexican joint. Right by the right by the barbershop. Speaker 3 01:02:14 I love that place. Yes. Cincos great big margaritas. So let's say you're leaving Cinco and you go up to the light, right? Yeah. Map Goes is on your right. You turn right there and go down that road and it's right there to your right. Speaker 0 01:02:25 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Speaker 3 01:02:26 It's the colon aid. Yeah. Oh dude. Don't stalk me. Yeah, Speaker 0 01:02:29 You are. Yeah. I've um, my buddy, my good buddies, um, Todd Williams used to live in there. Caleb. Caleb Conrad used to live in there. Host our NASCAR podcast. Dude. Such a cool spot. Yeah, dude. Dude, you're literally, so you go, you go to the Rusty now Speaker 3 01:02:41 Rusty, is that the one right across the thing? That's the Speaker 0 01:02:43 Bar. That's the bar. Speaker 3 01:02:44 I went there one time to play Pool with my buddy. Speaker 0 01:02:46 That's the bar right behind. Um, right behind the Valvoline. Yep. Right there by the little homeless village. Yep. Um, have you, what are you, what are you doing Wednesday night Speaker 3 01:02:55 Apparently going to Rusty? Speaker 0 01:02:56 Yeah, we're having our, we're having an event. We're calling it, it's called um, rhythm and Smoke. So it's a cigar, our cigar sponsor, uh, crown Heads. And then, uh, we're teaming up with Standard Proof Whiskey and it's like a cigar and whiskey night and just chill vibes from like seven to nine Really. And we're just kicking it on the back, on the back deck at Rusty. Now that's also where we host McElroy Monday. If you ever wanna play writer's round on a Monday and watch Matt McElroy and host the Writers Round really intoxicated. Um, it's a fun, it's, we love, we love the Rusty now, so dude Yeah, we're definitely gonna have to Yeah. I didn't realize how fucking close we were. We're like five, we're like five minutes apart. Yeah, we're right there. Nikki t and our razor ready headquarters is right over there too, so dude fucking sick. Did you Speaker 3 01:03:35 Hear, did you see the guy get shot up there? Get shot? Where? At the Walmart. Speaker 0 01:03:38 This guy got shot at the Walmart. Yeah. Well I'm, I usually stay, I have a, I I have a, it's like a Speaker 3 01:03:43 Road rage incident. My buddy used to work Speaker 0 01:03:45 There in Hermitage. Speaker 3 01:03:46 Yeah, dude. It was like couple months. Like a month or, or so ago. Geez. Speaker 0 01:03:50 I've been living, yeah, I've been living there since September, but I'm not really there. I usually stay at my, um, at my girlfriend's place in, um, here in the, uh, she's like right around the corner from here in the Gulch. Oh, cool. Yeah, so I, I stay over there a lot. But like, I mean, cause I used to live in Antioch and that was, that was, um, gunshots or fireworks every night. You were like, it's a Tuesday in April. I don't think anybody's shooting off fireworks. Speaker 3 01:04:11 Fired. Speaker 0 01:04:11 Fired. It's definitely a gun. Yeah, it's definitely a gun. But no, sh When did this happen? What, like a month? This Speaker 3 01:04:16 Is like a month or two ago. I think maybe, maybe three. Maybe three. But like, yeah. Geez, my buddy used to work there and, and he's like, Hey can you come get me? They like blocked my car off because some guy got shot from a road rage incident. I'm like what the, geez. It was crazy. Speaker 0 01:04:30 Yeah. I like, uh, the McDonald's that's right over there. I used to be a frequent goer to that late night coming back stone from uh, from the bars cuz they're open. Don't fuck in. I knew the guys, the guy was Doug that worked at McDonald's and there was this, he looked like Chris from family guy. A big deal of blonde hair, just belly over kind of thing. Yeah. And he knew my order again, making the, making the mc gang bang the McDouble with the McChicken. You put it inside it. Oh yeah. Doing, doing the greasy shit. Um, so yeah, dude, that's cool. You fucking Hermitage guy. We definitely gotta take, we, Speaker 3 01:04:56 We definitely need to do Speaker 0 01:04:57 Something. We're go, we're going to, cause we do nights where we have, we have folks over the house and we just smoke cigars, hang out. I mean, for those that do drink, I think I told you. Do Speaker 3 01:05:05 You golf? Speaker 0 01:05:06 I, so I have three sets of clubs in my, um, at my house. I played on the golf team in high school, but I was like an alternate. So my score counted the minimum of like wish or two wish Speaker 3 01:05:17 I wish had golf in high school. I wish Speaker 0 01:05:18 Bro well, well dude, I got to play. I love golf. My family couldn't afford playing at these fancy country clubs in New York, but the taxpayer dollars and my school district could, you're like have, so I used to play like all these fancy courses in like Westchester, like where, where Trump's from and like all this shit. And we'd then we'd, so like I, I understand and I used to, I golfed a lot with my grand, with my grandpa, my great grandpa and all that shit. So like I, I know how to golf. It's been, I golfed a lot during Covid, but now it's been like probably two years since I've been out there. But I'm down to down to go out and play the links. Um, I I actually, um, I had a buddy, my buddy, uh, Davis, um, Davis Dengo, he works in, uh, works in management and stuff. Used to, used to be out at Texas. Uh, but he's here now. He hit me up golf in yesterday. So we can definitely get a crew deal. Where Speaker 3 01:06:02 Do you golf? I just went yesterday. Where? Speaker 0 01:06:03 Where Speaker 3 01:06:04 At? Uh, I went to McCabe yesterday. Speaker 0 01:06:06 Okay. McCabe's fun. Cause you walk. Speaker 3 01:06:07 It's fun dude. It's it's nice. It's like, dude, Speaker 0 01:06:08 I, and I'm, I like Speaker 3 01:06:09 Shelby McCabe. I went to both of those. Yeah. I like Speaker 0 01:06:12 Have you done 12 Stones yet? What's up in Goodlettsville, bro? Speaker 3 01:06:15 I haven't done that one Speaker 0 01:06:16 Yet. Okay. 12 Stones is fun. I have played there probably five times. Every time I've hit a house. Speaker 3 01:06:21 <laugh> Speaker 0 01:06:22 It's always been roof. I like Speaker 3 01:06:23 Old's always been there. I like Old Hickory a lot. Speaker 0 01:06:24 I'm sure you do. Everybody loves Old Hickory. It's nice. I Speaker 3 01:06:27 It's nice. Speaker 0 01:06:27 It's nice one we have Buddy. Um, well introduce you. Our friend, uh, will Shackleford of, uh, he's in the duo called Shackleford Lane. And um, he just got a job there as a groundskeeper. So he was like, Hey buddy, I can bring friends out here. So now I might have a friend to bring out with me, dude. Yeah. And Will's, Will's a great Will's, uh, uh, him and his brother Reid. Um, they're fucking, they're like, um, Reed looks like, so like if Riley Green is like redneck Adonis, we joke around that. He's like the Greek god of the South Will's younger brother Reed is like redneck Hercules or like, like he's got like long hair. He looks like he's 35, but he's 21. Like he's just a monster. Really. 5,000 acre cotton farm in South Alabama down here Where sweet boys from? Um, down outside of Montgomery. Um, but yeah, we can, we'll definitely set something up for sure, bro. Speaker 3 01:07:11 That'd be sick. Do do you know what you need? You know what you need in this? I feel like it'd be so fun. You need a segment. Kinda what Ernest does. Like, you know how he does like, he's like, he's like the, the local SE or whatever, like the local food segments. Yeah. Whatever. It's like where's your favorite place to go eat? Speaker 0 01:07:27 Oh dude. I mean I, I mix those in like, I can, we can, we we have like, we've done like different like, like segments and, and different, different shit like that. And yeah. So I want to get the co consistency going cuz like you, we used to be in the round, which I'm sure you remember when we were in the round, but mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we moved to, I I remembered it when I was starting out this damn podcast today. Um, we um, we do out, we call it outside the round now cuz we have on like country artists like yourself and songwriters, but we mix, we're mixing in like, we're starting to mix in like influencers, comedians, athletes. Yeah. That's things great outside of the box, you know? Yeah. And then with the round we're doing like more full band shit and like jammy kind of stuff and like live podcasts and just mixing in different kind of concepts and shit. But I do need to think of like some good, Speaker 3 01:08:09 Like something that's like super unique to you and make it like super like, like where like somebody hears it and they're like, oh yeah, that was on that, that Speaker 0 01:08:17 Podcast. Yeah. And then I can mix some like the New York stuff. I can call something Fugazi I can call. So like the ul like, or you Speaker 3 01:08:23 Could be like, they're like, like the, Hey, I'm walking here, Paul Speaker 0 01:08:26 Walking. Oh dude, I've been doing the food reviews. We did a food review up in Cincinnati, um, or I was calling it this weekend with um, our buddy Sam who runs our rowdy alternative segment. We called it Zen Cincinnati. And I were Cincinnati inning. That's genius. He's been zenning for five years. Two, two at a time. And I'm like, motherfucker, like it's a lot of nicotine. I'm, I'm at one right now. I just, I love, I don't this bit. It's great. Um, but we, I did a food review, we were tailgating and the guys next to us had elk burgers, so Oh dude Speaker 3 01:08:56 Elk, you're um, Speaker 0 01:08:57 So for that right now went, went Speaker 3 01:08:58 To call, he went home in a minute. So like Speaker 0 01:09:00 Yeah. Cause you guys eat elk and shit out there. Like that's elk. All filter full of elk. Elk or deer. Yeah. Like elk are the equivalent to deer out there. Um, but yeah, I did, I did a whole food review that we, that we put up and it's a, it was, it was five stars premium. It was good, it was solid. I want to go and start doing the, the ones of places I don't like, like I want to go to Olis. Mm. Foli to me is a fucking travesty. Speaker 3 01:09:21 I I don't think I've had it. Speaker 0 01:09:22 Okay. You're, you're not missing out. Okay. Um, it's a, it is a fast food Italian southern chain. Speaker 3 01:09:27 Oh no dude. It's that one that's like right up by the chick. Right Speaker 0 01:09:30 By Chick Zpi. Yeah. Right by Z's. Yeah. I don't go there. Speaker 3 01:09:32 I was gonna go there the other day. I'm like, I Speaker 0 01:09:34 Mean you can go there and try it if you want for me growing up. Cause I grew up with home cooked Italian food. Yeah's Speaker 3 01:09:38 Probably Speaker 0 01:09:38 Good too. It, I'm not paying 5 99 for a chicken parm. Like I know, I know what a good chicken parm is supposed to cost. Like I'm not, I'm not having a chicken parm with ketchup on it, you know, like, not my, not my thing but, um, you got a website or anything where people can go to find your or is it all socials right Speaker 3 01:09:51 Now? It's right now socials, I'm in the midst of making the website, but right now all my socials got the link tree. So it's like really good setup in that sense. Speaker 0 01:09:58 So it's how many, how many followers you had at TikTok now? Speaker 3 01:10:00 TikTok is 118 Speaker 0 01:10:03 I think. No shit. Thousand. That's Speaker 3 01:10:04 Pretty good. Good. I don't know. Let me, let me look. Speaker 0 01:10:06 That's pretty good. Hell yeah. Shout out to that. Shout out Megan. Oh, mag Marone a former, former guest of this podcast. Meg Marone proud member of you. Yeah, I love her. She's head around Speaker 3 01:10:14 Family. I wanna get a right with her. Yeah. 118. Speaker 0 01:10:16 118. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:10:17 Yeah. And then, um, yeah, I mean my main socials are TikTok and Instagram and um, they're all, they're both same as Caleb Lahr music. C a l e b l a t h r o p Music. Speaker 0 01:10:29 You spell music. Speaker 3 01:10:30 M u s i c. Speaker 0 01:10:31 There you go. Not just, not just the Jack. There you go. Speaker 3 01:10:33 <laugh>. No I do. Yeah. Well people, dude you have no idea how many times and I'm actually very surprised you didn't mispronounce my name cuz everyone mispronounced my last name Speaker 0 01:10:41 Get Well I had, I had to announce it on stage. I've kind known it for a little while now. Speaker 3 01:10:44 Everyone's like Lathrop or Ro or Yeah, lamb Chop or something. Lamb dude Lamb chop. Like dude, one of my buddies is like Caleb Lamb Chop. And I'm like, no dude. It is not, it's not Speaker 0 01:10:53 That Get you get, youre one of those that was a TV show back in the day, right? Or you're probably too young for that. Was there, was there a TV show called Lamb Chop? It sounds like a cri No, I thought there was, we'll look it up after this, but y'all be sure to go follow our boy Caleb Lathrop Now Caleb Lamb Chop. Shout out to the friend that calls him that <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:11:10 Shout out Lake. Speaker 0 01:11:11 Shout out Lake. Calling him Caleb Lamb Chop. Jesus Christ. But um, Caleb Lahr, uh, be sure to follow him on all the socials and be on the lookout. What was the name of the song? Uh, I seen A Cowboy Cry. I seen a Cowboy Cry coming out August 4th. Y'all be sure to go and pres save that shit. And uh, be on the lookout for, for Caleb doing some stuff here in town. And uh, you don't tour yet, do you? You haven't Speaker 4 01:11:32 Nothing. I'm trying to get there. Trying Speaker 0 01:11:33 To get on that. Okay, so getting there. He's gotta try Speaker 4 01:11:34 To hop on that bandwagon Speaker 0 01:11:35 Right now. He's getting there. Elliot. Yeah. Bandwagons are fun to tour into. We can talk about that after this but, um, but y'all be sure to check out a boy Caleb Lathrop, um, appreciate him coming on today. Um, new music coming out. He's got some great songs outright now and happy to have him as a part of the Rays Rowdy Family baby. Um, once again, my name is Matt Baril. Gotta give a shout out to our friends from big friendly Productions, whale Tail Media Saxon Studios and our boy Mitch Wallace with the Digital Marketing Agency. If you wanna know more about us and what we do here, look up raised rowdy.com for Sweet Boy Behind the camera. Our boy Caleb, right here. My name is Matt Burillo and this has been outside the, Speaker 4 01:12:33 I ain't never been Tostan one place for too long. I ain't never been the Bastar. I love you too girl. I love only got a couple trick on my so you me Speaker 1 01:12:54 If you Speaker 4 01:12:55 Know me, know I'm, and money for, I'm just.