Tyler Nance: Keeps Me Sane, Nashville Life & Midwest Memoirs

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Come on. This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill for Rage Rowdy podcast. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to Outside the Round with me, Matt Burrill. Today a recurring. Yes. It's our second time having him here on the pot. He was on episode 232 and we have to get him back because he's doing some big damn things. He's a Missouri boy. He's finally here in the 615 full time. It's my boy, Tyler freaking Nance. [00:00:41] Speaker B: How you doing? [00:00:42] Speaker A: Doing well. I was just up in Wisconsin at a festival. I know you were up there at a festival not too long ago. [00:00:47] Speaker B: Yeah, July 4th, bro. [00:00:48] Speaker A: They're different up there. [00:00:50] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:00:51] Speaker A: Like, I had been to Wisconsin for club shows back in my touring days. I had never really been up there for. We were up there for. We got there on a Wednesday and I got back at 7am this morning. So we were up there for four days. We stayed in a camper. Like, just gone back this morning. I got back this morning. I was supposed to fly back last night and the flight got canceled. Milwaukee, like, flooded out. It was nuts, really. Yeah, it's been. It was a long journey for me and Ike. Our. Our video guy would shout out, Ike. He edits all these podcasts, so. We love you. We love, love you, Ike. But the Wisconsin folks are freaking wild, dude. [00:01:25] Speaker B: Yeah, they can drink. [00:01:26] Speaker A: They really can. But they get along like, they drink and they're just happy. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah, they're that close to Canada, you know, they're just like all nice. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, they're nice people. They just love their cheese and their cold beer and their music. [00:01:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:40] Speaker A: So what was the festival that you played up there? Do you remember? [00:01:42] Speaker B: I played at Summerfest on July 4th. [00:01:44] Speaker A: Oh, that's one of the big ones. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Was so fun. But it was like my. My first time with like a full band. First time in ears. It was so. It was. It was a lot. A lot of first. So this whole year's been a lot of first, but. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Since last time we had you on, obviously. Keeps Me Sane has been going freaking insane, dog. Yeah, you're coming up on like 10 million streams on that thing on Spotify here soon. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it just like hit 7 million on Spotify. [00:02:13] Speaker A: It's moving so quick that It'll be at 10 by the time this thing's out. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what it's at across all platforms, but it's. It's up there probably. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And you've had Success with some of the other songs, but I feel like this one's just different. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I had. I had success with that. Bad. With Bad News. And then it was kind of like a smaller version of this, which I think was good. It was good for me because it kind of like, showed me, like, what pressure was like, and on a smaller scale. And then this happened. It wasn't like, whoa, I've never had this happen. You know, it's like I've seen it before, but just smaller, you know? [00:02:51] Speaker A: Yeah. What is it about keeps me sane that you think has it doing what it's doing? Like, what. What makes it different from your other songs? [00:03:00] Speaker B: I think, like, the. The cadence of it. Like, the cadence of, like, all the lyrics. And it's just so catchy. I think, like, even whenever I wrote it, I wrote the first verse. It was just so dang catchy that it even had me, like, the night that I wrote it, just, like, repeating it over and over. And then just once we wrote it, it was just like, even more catchy, the second and third verse. So. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that melody just stays with you. Yeah, it's something that you can, like, come along to, like. Yeah, yeah. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Easy to, like, learn the words, too, but, like, the word lyrics are still, like, complex and makes, like, the listener think, which I love. I love doing whenever I write. So. Yeah. Yeah, you've. [00:03:45] Speaker A: You write at such a deep level for such a young freaking kid. Yeah, it's wild, man. And so what. What have the. Some of the messages been about this song? Like, because all your songs relate to people. They're stories. [00:04:00] Speaker B: A lot of positivity. Like, it. It's really, like, reached out to the people listening. And some people have said that it's like, the best song that they've heard in a really long time, which is so cool, like, to. To be able to, you know, reach out to an audience and have them say that. So I think it's. I think it's awesome. And they're really enjoying it. Like, most everything is just positive. You know, you still have, like, the. [00:04:29] Speaker A: Hate, but saying, like, messages of people relating to it. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I mean. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Like, you sing songs for people that are in dark places. Yeah. [00:04:42] Speaker B: I mean, really do it really. Like, I feel like it's reached out to people that have, like, struggled with, like, anxiety and. And, you know, been overwhelmed and stressed. And it relates to a lot of people like that. And I've gotten feedback on that type of audience. Like, people that, like. Yeah, like, I. I relate to this so much and stuff so, yeah. [00:05:08] Speaker A: What's it like being a resident of Nashville, Tennessee now? Last time we talked, you were in a camper just over the border during tornado season, dude. Now you're down here in the other. Other. Other la. Lower Antioch. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Lower Antioch. Dude, it's so much better. Like you were telling me whenever I was on here, it was. It's like you're connected whenever you're like, you know, an hour away. But once. Not like once you actually move into Nashville, it's just so much different. I've been able to like, network and meet some more great people and actually do stuff and not have to plan like my whole entire day around coming here to do a couple things. So it's. It's so nice. [00:05:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, dude. I lived in Antioch once and it's. It's nice because it's just far enough outside of town to where you're not in the. All the time. You're like, yeah, oh, I'm bored. It's ten o' clock at night. It. I'm gonna go out. But you're also not so far away, like you said, where you have to plan your whole day around. I gotta write. I gotta. I should stay here. I gotta write. I'm gonna play this round or I'm gonna go hang with these people. I guess I'm in town for 10 hours. I got to drive an hour or something home. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, like, if I. If I want to grab a few beers with somebody, I can. I can Uber and Yeah. Have to like, oh, man, I got to get a hotel now or something like that. So that's. It's really convenient. [00:06:28] Speaker A: Yeah. We were talking about anxiety, and that's something that you've been very open about. What do you think it is about younger folks having anxiety? Is it the phones? Is it the COVID thing? Is it just that we're more connected or what is it? [00:06:43] Speaker B: What's like, going on so much in. In this world? I mean, it's not like this is a time where you see everything. You can see everything. Like, you can Google anything. You have AI and all that stuff. And like, it's in front of our faces like 24 7. [00:06:59] Speaker A: And there's no break. [00:07:00] Speaker B: There's no break. Whenever you're sleeping, you'll have your radio playing. It'll be something talking about what's wrong in this world. And like, I just feel like there's so much stuff wrong in the world that's like. It's like. That's all people have running through their mind. So it's Just it gets in their nerves more than what it used to be, you know? [00:07:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like it's a blessing and a curse because we can get our, like, I can get this podcast out to more people. Through the clips that are on social media, your. Your career is really taken off. Like, your story goes back to posting videos back in the welding days of connecting with folks through their phones. But then, like you said, we're almost too connected. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Yeah. To where it's. [00:07:42] Speaker A: There's positives and negatives to it. [00:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah. People are on their phones just all the time just seeing all this stuff, and I think that's what leads to. Leads to all the anxiety, depression and stuff. [00:07:53] Speaker A: Yeah. How. How big is anxiety? How. How many. How big is your struggle with anxiety been? Like, because you're a guy that's been by himself a lot, like, since he got out here, you've lived alone. But also being away from home and being on the road doing your welding thing in your past life, it was. [00:08:09] Speaker B: It was still tough, but it was really tough. Whenever, like, I. I graduated, I. I was like, super anxious. Like, there'd be times I'd drive eight hours to a job and I sit my truck and I just have to. I'd be like, yeah, maybe. Maybe I don't need this job. Let's just leave. And. But, you know, I overcame it and I kind of got used to it. Just doing it and then, like, posting. Just starting to post. I was so anxious about it too, because, like, I was so, so moved by everybody else's opinion and which I. Doesn't matter because, like, their opinion doesn't outweigh, like, all the positive ones and stuff. And it's just like, kind of something that's came with growing up. Like, just being able to, like, reflect on myself and. And just kind of like, see what outweighs what and just. Yeah. Just learning that it doesn't matter what people say because everybody's gonna have something. [00:09:14] Speaker A: To say, man, you're the artist. You're creating art. You're creating something that hasn't existed before. [00:09:19] Speaker B: Like, you know, I'm, like, surrounded by people. Like, not everybody can do it. And I've been told that, you know, like, surrounding myself with positive people that are, like, people are going to do this. So. Yeah, so it's like I've overcame it. Playing shows is. Is getting 10 times easier. I don't, like. See, I used to have to drink, like, to play, like, drink a lot. Like, I still drink, like, before I play and whatnot, but I just I used to have to, like, get hammered before. Right. Before I did it. [00:09:52] Speaker A: So you can kind of tunnel out. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:54] Speaker A: What. All those. All those eyes watching you in a club or something. Especially when you're kicking off a show acoustic. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And, like, getting the nerves out and whatnot. It was. That's what I had to do. And then, like, you know, you play a show after. Right. The day after another show. You can't really do that because you feel like crap. And. Yeah. So I've. I've gotten way better. I'm more comfortable. I mean, I'm still awkward, but, like. I mean, who. I. I'm. I'm probably one of the most awkward people I know. Of course. But I'm biased, but just gotta embrace. I've just, like, learned to kind of embrace myself because, like, in the end, I think people just are more dialed into, like, the voice and the singing and all that stuff live. So. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Yeah, man. And they connect with your lyrics. You're a lyricist, man. You. It was funny. We. We. When we had you on. On that last. That last Wednesday that you had played with us over at Duck Blind, and you gave me the shout out, you played Midwest Memoirs, and you were talking about that, man. It's like, that's what you're doing. You're taking people to small town usa and the struggles that people go through. People go through them all over the world. But there's something about being in a cow town in the Midwest. [00:11:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Midwest Memoir. That's. That was so cool because you were. You were asking me, like, what we did. I don't remember what, like, my response was, but it was my first podcast. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Dude, I was nervous. I was so nervous. I was like, I don't. I don't know. We, like, all we did was, like, drink beer, drive around and check house and try to stay out of jail. And that's about it. And I was. I think I went home after that. And I had. Right after that, like, maybe a few days, I had, like, Midwest memoir down. Cause I like the alliteration between the two words. And I'm from the Midwest. And I was like, this makes sense. [00:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:57] Speaker B: So I had the song title, but, like, now I need the word. So I was sitting in a John Deere parking lot waiting on my buddy with a trailer to go haul a tractor to someone's house. And I was just like, I was chilling there, and he was taking forever. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna start writing down some lines to this. So I wrote all the verses, two and a half verses. And I took it to Brent McCullough, a producer I use here in town, and we finished it and it was just like, oh, this is. This is really cool. So shout out. To shout out to you. [00:12:38] Speaker A: I was gonna say it's. It's cool to. To be. To be a part of it in that. In that small capacity, but also, like, it's so on brand for you to write mid mess Midwest memoir in a John Deere parking lot while you're getting a trailer to go and haul a truck. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Did I send you that song? [00:12:54] Speaker A: No, I haven't heard it yet. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Dang it. I played it live. [00:12:56] Speaker A: You played. Yeah. You played it, but I haven't. I haven't heard, like, the virgin version, man. What's the recording process been like now, too? Because everything, it seems like, is elevating, and it's elevating freaking fast, dog. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Like, what's it like? [00:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah, like, how has your process changed from a year ago to now of when you're in the studio? Like, you. You got almost 2 million monthly listeners on spot. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:18] Speaker A: Right now. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Which is nuts. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah, bro. It's a lot of people. [00:13:21] Speaker B: That's a lot of people. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:22] Speaker B: Imagine 2. 2 million people just standing outside in the parking lot right now. It's a lot. [00:13:28] Speaker A: They wouldn't fit. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I know my process. I mean, dude, it's. It's so much. So much better. Like, first time I came here, I was uptight. I was nervous. I didn't know my voice. I knew my voice, but, like, I didn't. I didn't. Like, I wasn't comfortable. [00:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:47] Speaker B: So, like, I was still in my shell, and now it's like, wherever I go, I feel like I got a little more. Bit more credit, so. So, like, it's so much easier whenever you have, like, some credit to, like, go into a studio and, like, talk about things and stuff. So it's, like, so much easier to make that conversation. I live here in town. You live here in town. And, like, at first, I was living in South Dakota. I didn't know anybody here, and, like, it was trying to. Trying to become comfortable in a room. Like, that was, like, really hard. [00:14:16] Speaker A: Imposter syndrome's real, dude. It's like, what am I doing here? [00:14:20] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, I don't. Yeah, I don't deserve this, and I don't have that thought. It's like I put out my second. It took. It took me a while to, like, kind of. Kind of get out of that, which I still Think like, man, I don't deserve this. But, you know, everybody has a way of. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Making it to where they're at. So I. Yeah, shoot. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Like how, like how. When was the last time you were in the studio? [00:14:55] Speaker B: Well, I was just home for two weeks, so. [00:14:59] Speaker A: So a little before that. [00:15:00] Speaker B: Like right before that. [00:15:01] Speaker A: So like July. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:03] Speaker A: So how, how is the feeling in July versus the feeling of even living in Kentucky and driving down there? Like from making, for making the EP to now making the stuff that's going. [00:15:14] Speaker B: To be coming, it's so much easier, so much fun. It's like you're just cutting it up. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Just like, you're loose. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah, you're loose, you're comfortable and like, you know, I've got experience under my belt and like, you know, it's, it's like I've, I've gotten so many repetitions of doing it that it's like, it's like it's not as hard. [00:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah. How is your, your past life of being out on the road welding, you think, kind of helped you in a way deal with music? Because the music business is very difficult and it's a lot of ups and downs and it's a grind and it doesn't always happen super fast. You're. You're experiencing success early on, which is awesome and so well deserved. You're crushing it and everything. But the ups and downs of this thing, I feel like with a blue collar job, like you're welding and living in a tent and bum fuck South Dakota, Iowa or where. I feel like that. I feel like that's gotta look like looking back on that and dealing, being in the trenches, that's gotta help you to where this music stuff is gonna come a little bit easier. [00:16:22] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean it, like there's good and bad times to that whenever I was doing it and like, it's probably way worse good times and like really worse bad times doing that whenever I was, whenever I was welding. But like, experiencing all that has made like, struggles out here, like, feel 10 times easier. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:49] Speaker B: I just got to remind myself like, oh, I'm not in jail or oh, I'm, I'm not, I'm not freezing my butt off right now or I'm not dying in the heat right now. So like, it's, it's definitely like get given me that, that mindset. Like, it's, it's way worse. It's. I'm doing what I love and I'm. Yeah. So like, and also like, I, I, whenever I was working on the road Like, I used, you know, like, hard times as what to write about. And I, I can still, like, pull from that and like, I know what that stuff was like and like, I can still like, put my mind in those situations and like, write about that st. I think that's how it's related a lot, so. How it's helped me a lot too. Yeah. [00:17:42] Speaker A: A bird knocking off your driver's side mirror on that big old truck that's in the parking lot is not nearly as bad as freezing your ass off in December in South Dakota. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Let's talk about that story a little bit. How does a bird knock off your mirror? You've got it mostly replaced. Like it looks better than it probably. [00:17:59] Speaker B: It didn't. It didn't break it off, luckily. It just like broke off like one piece and then it cracked the. The small little mirror, like the. The blind spot mirror. And dude, I was driving and just I heard a boom. I was like, what was that? [00:18:14] Speaker A: Like, like I didn't hit anything. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Something hit me and I saw there was like, there's like a trace of a bird on there. I was like, damn. That's what it was. Sure enough. So I'm. I'm in the process of fixing that now. So I was like, what are the odds that bird could have been just like a foot farther to the right and just missed me. [00:18:38] Speaker A: But what kind of bird do you think it was? [00:18:40] Speaker B: Dude, I have no clue. [00:18:41] Speaker A: It couldn't have been that Tennessee bird. Tennessee bird. [00:18:45] Speaker B: Probably like a freaking buzzard. I don't know. [00:18:50] Speaker A: I feel like would have taken the whole thing off. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. [00:18:54] Speaker A: That's funny. That's wild, man. How is the. You were just home. What's. What's going home like now kind of being. Being well known in music around the world like you are with millions of people listening. But I'm sure you are very small town famous. [00:19:10] Speaker B: Walmart superstar. Oh, McDonald's drive thru superstar. Oh, you're Tyler Nance. Yeah, it's pretty. I think it's cool. I went to like. I'd walk around Walmart and be like, hey, how's it going? And whatnot. [00:19:26] Speaker A: It's the Walmart you've been growing up. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Going to your whole life all the time. And then like the drive through. Oh my gosh, I love your song. Heck yeah, I'm glad you. It's just cool. It's cool to like, you know, see. See where I came from? My bank. Shout out to Lamar bank and Trust. They. They love me there. Every time I Go in there. Just seems like about everywhere I go in my hometown, people know who I am, which is pretty. Pretty cool feeling. [00:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Is there a place where they do shows near your hometown? [00:20:03] Speaker B: They do, like, I think this time of year during the fair, they have, like, a pavilion. They had, like. I think last year they had Clay Walker there. But I, like, that'd be cool to, like, play a show out there. [00:20:15] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Playing like, the county fair or something. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Full band. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah, full band. Like, people away. [00:20:23] Speaker A: You had to have grown up going to. Going to that. Right? [00:20:26] Speaker B: I mean, that. They didn't start that until, like, I left. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Oh, you were already on the road. [00:20:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gone. I was gone. So. But other than that, like, people noticing. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Me, like, it's the mustache too. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Huh? [00:20:38] Speaker A: The mustache is so, like, distinct. Like, you have. You have a distinct look, which is something that people always ask Nikki T. And I like different things. And one of the things that we say when. Where, like, if an artist could work or not, is could you dress up as that guy or girl for Halloween? You. You've got, like, such a distinct thing, you know, like. Like Adcox got it too, but on a mustache and. Yeah. The red mustache. And that Southern string hat, you know? [00:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:21:05] Speaker A: Have a chain with the cross. [00:21:06] Speaker B: I always wear this hat. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:08] Speaker B: I was. I was telling one of the guys over at Southern String. I'm like, I don't know what you guys put in this hat. Like, I just love it. It's black, so it matches with everything. So it's like, I have. I probably have. I have so many hats. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:21] Speaker B: But like, I'm like, go. I'm in the hat picking process. And I'm like, this one or this one? And I pick this one. And so it's like every single time. [00:21:31] Speaker A: And it's at that. That Marlboro kind of design, too, which is kind of like that slight outlaw thing, which is cool too, which fits the vibe of your music. I mean, you have. You've had a damn mug shot as cover art. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, dude. Yeah. [00:21:43] Speaker A: You lean into that. Which. What was that process like of. Were there any second thoughts of doing that or was all you were all the way in being like, this is the story of the song. It relates. I'm gonna. I'm gonna put this mug shot on there. [00:21:56] Speaker B: It's kind of like, do we do we just, like, show people? Like, my pro, my past life. And I kind of saw it as, like, giving, like, my testimony, you know, like, because this the Song. I'm not him. It's about, like, you know, you do all these messed up things and you've been to jail and, like, you've done stupid stuff, said stupid stuff, but, like, that's not actually the person that you are. Like. Yeah, just because, like, you know, I got two DUIs doesn't mean, like, I'm just the worst person in the world. No, you're still trying to better yourself. And so it's like, do you let people find it or do you just put it out to be like, here you go, you know? So my manager, he was like, why don't we use your mug shot for. I'm like, that'd be sick. Like, let's do it. So. So we did it, and I thought it was really cool. Just like, have my ugly mug. [00:22:58] Speaker A: It's a. Yeah, man. You're in the art. You're. That's a. It's a full legitimate ass mug shot. What's that? Was that in Indiana? [00:23:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was in. That was in Greencastle, Indiana. Gosh. That was. That was not a fun time. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Doesn't that feel like a lifetime ago with just how fast life moves with. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Living here, it feels like it's like. Was just yesterday, but, like, it feels so long ago at the same time. Yeah. [00:23:27] Speaker A: So it's like we're in a bubble here, you know, it's like we're in, like, a little bit of, like, a time warp. Like, where. And you'll notice it, like, being in town now. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:37] Speaker A: You don't realize as much what's going on in the outside world because you're so engulfed in, like, the scene of what's going on here. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:45] Speaker A: And it just moves so freaking fast. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Like, it really does, man. Like, like, I was at. I was at a festival in Ohio like, a month ago, and it feels like a year ago. Yeah, it's only a month. [00:23:58] Speaker B: It feels like I was just on this podcast, like, not very long ago. Like the. The last. The very first time. Yeah. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And that was. That was like almost 20. Almost 20 episodes ago. Yeah, that was 20 weeks ago. [00:24:15] Speaker B: Which is like, you gotta think, like, the year's halfway over already. [00:24:20] Speaker A: More than halfway. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. More than halfway over. [00:24:22] Speaker A: We're in August. [00:24:23] Speaker B: Yeah. It's, like, only got four more months and it's 2026. [00:24:28] Speaker A: So how do you mentally stay grounded with everything moving so fast? Like, how do you find time to enjoy the moments but also stay locked in? [00:24:38] Speaker B: I just. I just have routine, you know, like, wake up. Same. Same time and you know, I talk to my, talk to my manager and kind of get a rundown and then you know, like I'll have like Saturday and Sunday to kind of wind. It's. I usually just, I don't wind down on Saturday. It's like I just, I do that Sunday to like do nothing. And then like Saturday I'm, I'm kind of like just chilling out and not doing a whole lot of stuff. But during the week it's just like grind time. [00:25:09] Speaker A: And the, the hard part's going to be because I know you've gotten to go out on the road and, and do some of that stuff. You'll be getting back out on the road here, here in the fall, I'm sure. It's like you find yourself grinding and you want to write and stay productive and stay functioning during the week. And then the weekend you're on the road. So it's like balancing that. That was always my hard part was it's like what I'm doing right now with the being festival season. Like. [00:25:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:34] Speaker A: Just up in Wisconsin. I leave in a sprinter van for Peoria, Iowa and Illinois. Illinois. Sorry, sorry. Cruisins. I love you. Peoria, Illinois, we love it. And then up to Minnesota, it's like the back to backs, you know. And that's what you're going to be doing. You start out weekend warrior ring and then. Yeah, you're gone. [00:25:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:55] Speaker A: You go for like weeks at a time. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I'm, I'm ready for. But like. Yeah, I think the, I think it's, it's really hard to write whenever you're out on the road. [00:26:03] Speaker A: Like you write so much by yourself. I don't think you're gonna have a problem with that. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Like I know like whenever I was on that, the last tour, I was like, I need to write. I need to write. But you just like whenever you're not performing and you're not doing all the show stuff, you just want to chill out. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:18] Speaker B: You don't like the last thing that comes is, is music. Like not music but like, like writing songs and stuff. So. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Yeah. You've got a booking deal now too, right? [00:26:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm with Wasserman. [00:26:33] Speaker A: How's that been going? [00:26:34] Speaker B: Good. It been like soon as we started. We've been kicking like they've been kicking butt really good. So like getting stuff already lined out. I think I have a show in. Is it Miller, Tennessee or Madison, Tennessee. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Madison, Tennessee. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Is it Madison? Okay. Yeah, I have, I have a show coming up there at the end of End of this month. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Let's get on the website. I'm gonna check all these, check all these dates for you because I looked on Spotify sometimes it's on there. It doesn't look like it's on there right now. Now I'm just glad keeps me sanes back on Spotify, dude. Yeah, I was like, going to jam it in the rental car this weekend. I'm like, where is this? And I saw your post and I'm like, oh, what the hell's going on? Yeah, how can they pull this song that's streaming really well? Like, what was going on? [00:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. That was a bummer. But it's back up. Yeah, it is. [00:27:25] Speaker A: It is. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Like, it really showed me how much people cared, like about, about that song. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Whenever. [00:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I made a post and there'd be like tons of comments on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, you know, all that stuff. Tick tock asking, where'd the song go? It's not on Spotify. I was like, what? What are you guys talking about? And I look and like, I'm looking at like Spotify for artists and it's like, this song's unavailable. I'm like, what? [00:27:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm glad that, that, that all got figured out. Yes. I'm glad that it got figured out, dude. One song that really stands out to me, that I bump all the time and it hit the. It hit a couple weeks ago when you played it live, is when you play Whiskey Mirror the pain. Yeah, I just, I like the whole crowd can, can feel it when you sing it and when you're playing it. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:17] Speaker A: And it's like there's, it's deep and it's like the way that you strum your guitar and everything and the way that your voice just goes. It's like this, this aggressive, like, estranged kind of feeling. So talk a little bit more about that song. [00:28:29] Speaker B: So I was, I was headed back to Lamar, Missouri, my hometown, from South Dakota. And I was going through, like, I think I was going through Sioux City and I had like the. She's probably cooked down on a cat like that. I had that line just. That's about it in a voice memo. And then it's like somewhere out in Oklahoma, like just that part and a voice memo. And it was a terrible voice memo because it was connected to my car Bluetooth. So trying to figure out the words to it, whenever I came down to writing the song was tough. So I got back, I had to do community service for this stupid stuff I did in Indiana. And I was doing community service in, like, an abandoned cemetery, and I, like, just. I started writing it, and then I just. I just finished it, and I, like, dropped what I was doing, like, flew back home in my truck, finished the song, got a voice memo of it, and it just sat, like, for the longest of time. But I. I really liked that one. It, like, goes through, like, three, like. [00:29:44] Speaker A: Very. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Big addictions in the world, you. [00:29:49] Speaker A: Know. [00:29:52] Speaker B: And I. I just, like. I thought it was really cool. It sprouts from, like, one specific person, but it relates to three other people that. Or two other people that, like, I've ran into in my life in different. Different states, you know? So, yeah, that's. That song's like. I thought it was really cool. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Yeah, man. And it's. And it's very much like it's. Again, people are relating to the darker stuff right now. People are talking more about. We talked about anxiety. People are talking more about addiction and country music than they ever have because. [00:30:33] Speaker B: You know, so real and so common in the world. Kind of like, yeah, like, anxiety, depression, addiction, just everything. [00:30:43] Speaker A: What's the worst case of addiction that you've kind of seen in your life or, like, seen through the. Seen through your eyes where you've seen somebody kind of struggle drinking? [00:30:55] Speaker B: Hell, even myself, I mean, I've. I've witnessed it firsthand, like, being really bad at hitting the. Hitting the can or hitting the bottle and just, like, not knowing a limit. But, you know, I've seen. I've seen, like, what that song talks about. I've seen it all three of those, like, really bad. You know, I've had, like, the, like, coke, you know, like, getting in the way. Way of mine and another person's relationship. And it was. Which is where the song really started from, because I was pissed off at the world. And, yeah, I was like, like, what happened to this? And it's like, I wonder where that person is now. But, yeah, so. So, yeah, I've witnessed kind of all three. Like, you know, like, you know, people smoke a little weed. That's cool. Like. Like, I've. I've experienced it to where it's, like, gotten in the way of, like. Gotten in the way of a relationship, you know, drinking and partying and, you know, that all being more important than the person that you say you love or whatnot. [00:32:08] Speaker A: And the re. And part of the reason that people start using is to drown out those dark feelings. It goes back to the mental health aspect. Yeah, it always does. But there's always a way. There's a way out of it. You know, there is. And music is one of those things where it brings. It helps people kind of get. Get centered, you know, Like, I've been. I've been off the bottle. I hit nine years back in May. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Congratulations. [00:32:30] Speaker A: And it's been my. I wouldn't be able to. Luckily I got off it and I went through my. Before I moved down here. [00:32:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:37] Speaker A: But if I had been going through that when I first moved down here. Oh, boy. I probably wouldn't be sitting here with you right now. Yeah, you know, it's tough. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Crazy how that works, dude. [00:32:45] Speaker A: Yeah, man, it is. And. And it's like it all. It all. It all connects and all that. What's it like being a fourth generation farmer that says, I'm leaving the farm, I'm gonna go weld and. Oh yeah, I'm gonna go start music now. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I see like you were asking earlier about what. What it's like going back home. Like whenever I was home, I just break hay. And you went back to work. Yeah, that's kind of like. I kind of planned it because I just wanted like, you know, get away for a little bit. And that was like the best vacation I could ask for. It was just. Just peace and quiet. I don't have any service anywhere. I was still like doing stuff like, remotely. But like, it was. It was like in the evening time, afternoon time. I was just like unbothered and I was. I was dealing with cows, Cattle and. And just bailing hay, raking hay. That's what I was. That's what I was doing the whole time I was home and. And just catching up with the family because I hadn't been home and shoot, I don't know how long. So. Yeah. [00:33:56] Speaker A: Have they gotten out here to visit you yet since you've gotten settled in Tennessee? [00:34:00] Speaker B: Yeah, my. My mom and dad both came here. I want to say, like. See, like time flies by. I can't even. I can't even remember what. [00:34:09] Speaker A: You blink and it's freaking. A month later. [00:34:12] Speaker B: I want to say it was like April, May. [00:34:16] Speaker A: I could be lying back in the spring. [00:34:18] Speaker B: Or June. June maybe. I don't know. Like they came and they. Yeah, I come from a small town and like they. My dad especially has not been to many big cities. And I took him down Broadway. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Oh. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. He did. Not like that. But I don't even like that. Like, it's. It's like a. It's a disaster in my mind on its own, so I can't even imagine how he felt. [00:34:49] Speaker A: And how old is your dad? [00:34:50] Speaker B: He's 51, 52. [00:34:52] Speaker A: 51, 52. Been doing what his dad did and what his grandpa. Farming in a small town. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Just right. Yeah. [00:35:00] Speaker A: There's more people in one of those bars than there are in the entire town. [00:35:04] Speaker B: Yeah, right. I mean. No, I mean, how big. [00:35:06] Speaker A: How big is. [00:35:07] Speaker B: My hometown's 4, 000, but, like, I don't think I've ever seen 4, 000 people. I don't think I've seen a thousand people in one area in my town. So I'm kind of like, you could. [00:35:17] Speaker A: You can fit. You can fit, like, a couple thousand people in Jason Aldean. [00:35:21] Speaker B: Really? Like, yeah. [00:35:22] Speaker A: I'm like. [00:35:23] Speaker B: I don't. Sometimes I'm like, man, does lamar really have 4, 000 people? Like, I don't think that's right. [00:35:28] Speaker A: I'm sure it's spread out. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:35:30] Speaker A: It's like, how many acres are you guys on? [00:35:33] Speaker B: Like, my fam. Like, my farm. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:35] Speaker B: Dude, I don't even. I couldn't even tell you. There's, like, two farms. There's, like, my mom's side, my dad's side. I think my. My dad has, like, my dad and grandpa. Like, my dad's side has, like, I don't know, five, 600 acres, probably, something like that. [00:35:52] Speaker A: See, that's why it's so spread. That's why they say there's there's 4, 000 people in Lamar because everybody's living on 5, 600. [00:35:59] Speaker B: It's probably. It's probably like, 4, 4000 people in, like, Barton county, and that's probably what it is instead of Lamar. So that's me. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So then to put it into perspective, you come from a town where there's 4, 000 people that you never see all in the same place, and you got almost 2 million people listening to your music monthly on Spotify. [00:36:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, it goes up a million every day, too. Like, I mean. Yeah, it goes up a hundred thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, every single day. That's freaking insane, dude. I never would have thought, like, a year ago today, because it's been like. Like, this time last year was whenever I. Around this time, minus one or two weeks maybe, I don't know. But this exact time last year, I had flown in and never came here. Walked into a studio in Hendersonville and didn't know what the heck I was doing. And now I'm here a year later, I'm living in Nashville. I've put out. I don't Know how many songs, like, 12, 13, 14 songs now. And I. I've. I've played. I've done. I haven't played that many shows, but, like, I've still played quite a few shows, more than what I ever intended. [00:37:27] Speaker A: In different parts of the country. Yeah, like, you've gotten the tour. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's like. It's like, where have time's gone, so. Yeah, it's. It's insane. [00:37:38] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Well, it's a lot to be proud of, of what you've accomplished in a short amount of time. And I know you got that cross around your neck. Talk about the relationship with. With the man upstairs and being a believer and trusting the plan. [00:37:51] Speaker B: I mean, like, I don't. I don't go to church. [00:37:55] Speaker A: I don't either. I don't either. And I got. I got one on too. [00:37:57] Speaker B: I'm like, smaller, but it's kind of like, I don't, like, I still, like, you know, I still read the Bible. I'm, like, still, like, still pray, and I, like, I'll. I wouldn't be anywhere without God, my family, or, like, my team that I have around me, and I'll tell about anybody that. And I have no shame in it at all. Like. Yeah, so that's. That's. It's not as close as it should be, but it's still there. And, you know, I talk about a lot, like, songs and stuff, like. Like, talk about. Not like, in a Christian music way, but like. Like, just like, questions that you have that people would say. Say in a prayer or something, you know, like, why? Or like. Or like, heaven knows that was me, but I'm not him is one of my song lyrics. So it's like, definitely a theme that's inputted. [00:39:00] Speaker A: It's the redemption. Yeah, it's the redemption. It's. I was in some dark places and. Hey. Hey, man. Hey, God, can you. Can you help me out? [00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Like, what's the plan? If I'm going through this dark time, where's the light at the end of the tunnel? And you just gotta trust that that light's gonna be there. And you. You. You put that into the music, man. Like, yeah. Sing about the dark stuff in hopes that. That situation. In hopes that a whiskey me or the pain. Those people, those folks that you're singing about, they get better. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:28] Speaker A: You know, you talk about that story to shed light on that for folks that are going through it, to let them know, like, you're heard, you're seen. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, absolutely. [00:39:39] Speaker A: It's special. [00:39:40] Speaker B: Man, it's fun. Like, it's. [00:39:43] Speaker A: It's not crazy. It's like, it's special. You're having this impact, but at the end of the day, it's like, it's fun. [00:39:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Like, this is what I love doing. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. I. I can. I couldn't see myself now doing anything else. Like, I wouldn't want to. This is just so much fun. Just, like, getting to. Getting to meet new people and, like, get to do cool things. Like, really cool things that not everybody gets to do. Like, it's just. I'm so grateful for it, happy for it. [00:40:16] Speaker A: So think of how many people want to like that, want to do music, and that's their thing, and they want to have people listen. And they don't get anywhere near the numbers or have anywhere near the people, like, being able. Because the goal is to affect as many people as possible. Like, spread your. Spread your message to the masses, man. And you've got to do that. And you've been here full time not even a year. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah, right out of here. [00:40:44] Speaker A: Right out of here. Well, what's the first time you came out here to visit? [00:40:49] Speaker B: Which? [00:40:50] Speaker A: Hendersonville? Shout out Hendersonville. I freaking love Hendersonville, bro. [00:40:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Know if you go there a lot anymore, but. [00:40:55] Speaker B: Shout out Joe Costa. [00:40:57] Speaker A: Oh, it was with Joe. [00:40:58] Speaker B: It was, you know Joe. Yeah, he's who did, like, Baker and Yeah, bro, he's done a bunch of artists with Alamo, so. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, Joe, Martina, they are. They were one of the first acts that Ray Rowdy ever covered on the blog back in the day. Yeah, they're OG Ray Rowdy because they have Luke, they have Joe has those new com cuts off of the first, like, EP and like, the first record. They have been repping and wearing Raised rowdy since, like, 2017. [00:41:27] Speaker B: That's so cool. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Those are OGs. I'm not as close to them as Nikki T is, but Joe and Martina are our family. [00:41:33] Speaker B: I think they're. I think they're finally back in town. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I know they were bouncing around for a little bit. [00:41:38] Speaker B: They were out in Cali there for a while. So. Yeah, shout out Joe and Martina. Great people. Love them. [00:41:46] Speaker A: Yeah, man, they are good. They are good people. What was it like getting in that studio for the first time? I mean, now that I know that it was with Joe too. Yeah, he's such a welcoming, like, big brother type figure. [00:41:54] Speaker B: I was nervous. I was nervous. But he definitely, like, made me comfortable and, like, you know, hyped me up whenever I needed it and, like, just Pretty much told me, like, you're good, dude. Like, you're fine. And they're still supportive. They still, like, message me here and there, like, congratulating me on stuff that's going on. So. [00:42:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's good. And they get that. That West. Because you're. How would you describe your music? Like, because it has some elements to that Western. Like, we could tell that, you know a thing or two about that Western. Like, you've been around cows and before. Yeah, you know, like, we. You can. You can feel those type of elements. But then it has that, like, Americana songwritery thing that, like, Zach, Brian, and Childers and those guys have kicked the door down on. [00:42:44] Speaker B: I'm like, I. I grew up listening to the Stanley Brothers, Ralph Stanley, Keith Whitley, and, like, the Everly Brothers. And they all derive from, like, Ralph Stanley, which is, like, Appalachian, like, banjos, fiddle guitar, like, bluegrass music. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:03] Speaker B: And so, like, my songwriting and, like, my music just has so much of that, but it's mixed in with, like, my Midwestern life and my working on the road life, and it's just like. I think it's a mix of those three, but I think. I think a lot of it, like, a lot of, like, where I start is playing, like, kind of, like, bluegrassy. I can't play bluegrass. [00:43:33] Speaker A: Like, no, those laptop pickers are different. [00:43:37] Speaker B: I'm no Billy Strings. Like, but, like, I'm trying. I'm trying, but I'm. I'm nowhere close. So that's it. A lot of it. A lot of, like, where it all starts is, like, listening to that bluegrass and stuff growing up and still currently. And so. Yeah. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Do people. Do people say that you remind them of Tyler Childers? [00:43:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I've gotten that a lot. I've gotten that a lot. [00:44:02] Speaker A: What do you think it is that they see or they. [00:44:05] Speaker B: I'd say. I'd say it's like the. I'd say it's definitely the songwriting and, like, the. The singing, like, the. The sounds the same because I don't have a deep voice at all. So, like, whenever I sing, it's up there, and it's like I belt things out. [00:44:21] Speaker A: Like, it's emotion. You're preaching. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:23] Speaker A: You're preaching a story. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Like. Yeah, I'd say it's like the voice. Like, the sound is what makes people say Tyler Childers, which is a great compliment. I take that as a compliment. [00:44:37] Speaker A: Like. [00:44:38] Speaker B: Like, that's. [00:44:39] Speaker A: You. [00:44:40] Speaker B: Like, you could call me. You could call me Tyler Tillers any day you want. Like, go ahead. Like, it's. It's not gonna make me bad mad because I have so much respect for his music and his songwriting and just. It's really. Yeah. So. [00:44:57] Speaker A: And he sonically will pave the way for the guys that are in that singer songwriter space today. Like. Yeah, his Purgatory record is one of the best of all time. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Definitely go to somewhere up there. [00:45:10] Speaker A: What would jump in. What would some of your favorite records be? Because he smiled when I said that. So what would definitely. Or even it could be songs. [00:45:18] Speaker B: Like, just songs. Oh my gosh. [00:45:21] Speaker A: Like Ralph Stanley. I know one. It's the O Death song that was In a Brother World. Yeah. One of the greatest movie soundtracks of all time. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:45:31] Speaker B: Songs, Songs or. [00:45:32] Speaker A: Or albums. Like, like, who are some of your. Like, you talking about bumping, dude? Like, like, what's a record? Like, what's a CD you remember getting at Walmart? I know you're younger than me, so CDs weren't as much of a thing, but what's something where you listen to from front to back? [00:45:51] Speaker B: Toby Keith. [00:45:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Like, he had some freaking. I can't. I can't remember album names. [00:45:59] Speaker A: We're gonna look up the, the years. If you tell me the songs that were on, I could tell you the records they were on. Because I like post 911 Toby Keith a lot. Just because I like. [00:46:07] Speaker B: I like 90s Toby Keith. [00:46:09] Speaker A: Oh, you like the. The back in the day. [00:46:11] Speaker B: He ain't worth missing. Should have been a cowboy. Like, like, that was. That was some good stuff. [00:46:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I like the. Yeah, the. Like, how do you like me now? [00:46:21] Speaker B: Yeah, how do you like me? Like, yeah, like that, that era of. [00:46:25] Speaker A: Toby Keith Dreamwalk in that era. Toby Keith. [00:46:27] Speaker B: But then there's like Elvis. Like, I can't stop, I can't help falling in love with you. Like, I do that. Whatever album that was on. I can't remember. [00:46:37] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:46:40] Speaker B: But like, dude, like, that's. That's probably a goated song for sure. Keith. Willie Homecoming 63. When you say nothing at all, man. I don't know. Like, I listen to so much. [00:46:57] Speaker A: You listen to a lot of older stuff. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker A: So you don't. So not as much in the modern thing. [00:47:01] Speaker B: I don't, I don't. Like, I, I listen to, like, I don't know. I'm trying to. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Like, if you pulled out your Spotify right now, we'll be on there. [00:47:12] Speaker B: I don't, I don't use Spotify or Apple guy. I use YouTube Music. [00:47:16] Speaker A: You use YouTube? You are a small town kid that's what I tell the reason. [00:47:20] Speaker B: Okay, so to Tyler Chillers again. So the reason I have YouTube music and that's what I use now. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Is I can listen to all of his unreleased stuff. And so, like, I'm like. I'm like, I can listen to everybody's unreleased stuff. But, like. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Yeah, like, if it's been published on YouTube, you got it. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah. So, like, I've been. I've been rocking his. His newest album, Johnny paycheck. Taylor. Taylor McCall. Have you heard of him? [00:47:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:49] Speaker B: Let'S see. Logan Ryan band. [00:47:51] Speaker A: Yep. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Parker. Parker McCollum. [00:47:55] Speaker A: Yeah, we just saw him in Wisconsin. He killed it. He was one of the headliners at the festival. We were at Crossroads 41, did. Well, it's slower stuff. It's a slower show, but it's still effective. [00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait, who's Parker? Parker. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Parker. [00:48:08] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. [00:48:10] Speaker A: And he talks about some dark. Like he jumped into, like his first, like his Limestone Kid album, that first one we put out years ago. He was singing about some darker. [00:48:19] Speaker B: Yeah, like. [00:48:20] Speaker A: Like Grandpa's kicking. Like, talking about his grandpa having cancer and stuff like that. Like talking about drugs a little bit. And then he kind of went away from that. And now this new record, it's like. [00:48:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:31] Speaker A: It hits you like with what is it? My Blue? Is that the song on that he has where he's talk, he's talking, he's telling a story and it's dark and I'm like, what is like, whoa? He's like, back in it. [00:48:43] Speaker B: Have you heard Big Sky? [00:48:44] Speaker A: Big Sky? Yeah. My Blue and Big Sky? Yeah. The first two records and then solid country gold. I mean, watch me bleed. Killing, Killing me. Like, yeah, it's. [00:48:52] Speaker B: It's a very darker. [00:48:54] Speaker A: It's a darker. It's him as a songwriter. It's him going back to really. He's gotten some hits under his belt. And these are. I almost like the deeper tracks better. [00:49:04] Speaker B: People relate to that stuff more, I think. Yeah. [00:49:09] Speaker A: So, yeah, YouTube Music. [00:49:12] Speaker B: YouTube Music, dog. It's where it's at. That's awesome. It's where it's at. Hate it or love it, but it's what I listen to. [00:49:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I always say when people grow up in small towns and stuff, I'm like, how do these tick tock influencers get so big? And it's like everybody's got a phone. Like, people might not be watching tv, but they're gonna look on their phones and it's free. So if you're from a small town, you don't have a whole lot all you got to do is get on your phone and you can pay. [00:49:37] Speaker B: I pay for YouTube music. [00:49:39] Speaker A: You have the premium. [00:49:39] Speaker B: I have the premium. So. [00:49:41] Speaker A: So no commercials? [00:49:42] Speaker B: No commercials. Yeah, we don't mess with that. [00:49:44] Speaker A: What was the first way that you started consuming music, like, as a kid? Like, were you around for CDs and. [00:49:49] Speaker B: CDs and tapes? [00:49:50] Speaker A: It was CDs and tapes. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Yeah. My grandma, she sent me. She sent me home with CDs and tapes, like, something new every single time that I went home from her house. So I would, like, I'd fall asleep with a little. What is rca? Like, CD player. Yeah, like, and I just listen front to back to, like, John Connolly, Keith Whitley, Everly Brothers, you know, all, like, all the people at Toby Keith. Just so many artists just front to back. And then it just start over again. And I'd wake up to track number six. Yeah, 10 or whatever, you know. So that's how I started consuming music. And then, like, I. I started auctioneering whenever I was seven. And. [00:50:45] Speaker A: Oh, you've. You. So you. You can do the talking really fast. [00:50:49] Speaker B: I'm not gonna do it. I don't think I can do it anymore. [00:50:52] Speaker A: But how fast. How fast do you have to go doing that stuff? [00:50:55] Speaker B: It's just like, everybody has their own style, like, of doing it, but you got. [00:50:59] Speaker A: You got an auctioneer mustache. So now this all makes sense. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it makes all. It makes sense now. So I guess, like, technically I'm a third generation auctioneer too. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Oh, so your dad does it. [00:51:08] Speaker B: My uncle does it. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Oh, so it's in the Nance family. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Okay, so I did. I did that. I learned all, like, the tongue twisters and, like, all that stuff. And then I got bored of that. And then I discovered rap music, actually. I heard like, Jason Aldean's like, Dirt Road Anthem, and that was like, rap music. [00:51:26] Speaker A: Back in the day, Pops Farm was the place. Yeah, you can relate to that. Yeah. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, like, and then I found Eminem and I found, like, a bunch of other rappers. So I'd sit at a computer, like, studying lyrics and. Yeah, I'd be like, writing lyrics down, what they meant and stuff like that. And. And then, like, then I just fell in love with, like, Eminem, like, his. His writing capability. It was like, insane. And so. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Favorite Eminem song. [00:51:56] Speaker B: Oh, man. Why do you ask these hard questions? [00:51:59] Speaker A: I'm good at what I do, Tyler. I'm good at what I do, bud. I'm gonna have an off the wall. [00:52:06] Speaker B: One that's a song of his. [00:52:08] Speaker A: I know I know, I know. [00:52:13] Speaker B: I have a whole playlist of man. [00:52:19] Speaker A: See, I. The one I'm gonna go with while you're thinking, I'm gonna say Stan. [00:52:23] Speaker B: Stan. Oh, that's. That's like such a great story. [00:52:26] Speaker A: And it reminds me now I see where you get some of your. Your darker storytelling. [00:52:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:31] Speaker A: From like you went through an Eminem, you went through a shady phase. And it's like it has the strong hook to it. That's. But he's telling that story and it's dark without me. [00:52:44] Speaker B: He's catchy. There's so many. There's so many trailer park girls. [00:52:47] Speaker A: Go around the outside, shake that. Yeah. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Like, I like. I like his dirty. [00:52:52] Speaker A: You like his. [00:52:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I like his dirtier stuff. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Ass shaking songs. [00:52:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he's got like his. The Slim Shady lp. He has. I think it's song. It's a song. It's called if I had. Maybe he has a bunch of good songs. [00:53:11] Speaker A: So much albums too. So many things to look up. Which one? If I had. [00:53:15] Speaker B: It's called if I had. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:16] Speaker B: It's like one of his very first songs. There's a bunch of them I'm trying to think of. I'm trying to think back of like where Slim Shape. It's the Slim Shady. [00:53:28] Speaker A: That's where my name. That's what my. That's what My Name is came out. That Slim Shady lp. [00:53:33] Speaker B: There's so many good songs. [00:53:34] Speaker A: There's so much. There's so many similarities between. I know sonically they're. I mean they're closer than they've ever been. But country and rap or country and hip hop, especially on the darker side of things, like you can get the same message across. It's just different delivery. [00:53:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:53:50] Speaker A: So it makes a lot of sense delivery. So many guys and girls come up listening to rap. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:56] Speaker A: That are in the country world. [00:53:57] Speaker B: Like Eminem, he like read a dictionary and I like. I've learned that as a kid and so like I still have the dictionary and I. That I used to. I used to like read through it at night and like just start reading it front to back. I don't know what all I consumed from that but like I was just like so interested in like lyricism, like lyrics and words and stuff. Like it all like kind of. I guess it kind of derived from auctioneering. Now we're here. [00:54:26] Speaker A: So how many years did you auctioneer? [00:54:28] Speaker B: I think it was like seven to seven or eight to. It was like 12, 13 maybe. [00:54:37] Speaker A: So how does it so. So a little seven year old Tyler's getting up on a, on like a podium, a little step ladder, and you're. [00:54:45] Speaker B: Just selling cows, selling like stuff. It was like, it was like house auctions, like, like chairs, tables, belongings, like TVs, stuff like that, their art, their pictures and all that stuff. So. Yeah. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Do you feel like you had an advantage doing that? Being like a young. I could feel like they'd be more likely to keep going, buy stuff from the young kid. [00:55:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:10] Speaker A: Because I was cute versus the old man. [00:55:12] Speaker B: I was a little, I was a little short redhead kid with a cowboy hat on. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Like little Mason Ramsay out here. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, People. People loved it. Ate that stuff up. So. Yeah. [00:55:28] Speaker A: That's wild. I did not know that about you. That's a cool, interesting fact. Yeah, dude, I got you opening up on here now, man. [00:55:34] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:55:35] Speaker A: Come a long way. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:37] Speaker A: What's it been like doing more interviews and things like this too? I know you were on rfd. [00:55:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Tv, which I'm sure being an AG kid, that's got to be pretty cool. [00:55:45] Speaker B: I was, I was telling Stone Larry, my manager, I was like, dude, this is so full circle because like, I remember like walking into my grandpa's house, into his living room and he'd be like watching like, he'd be watching like the reruns of Marty Stewart and like Loretta Lynn on RFD TV and like the news that they have on there and stuff. And I was like, now I'm here and it's like just so full circle. And I gave him a little, A little nod, a little nod on there. He's like, so do you have anybody watching? And I, I said my grandpa read, which. Yeah, so that was really, really cool. And he's like, I saw you. I'm like, hell yeah. [00:56:30] Speaker A: So that's cool, man. That's really cool. So what do we have? What are the big goals for the rest of this year? [00:56:36] Speaker B: I'm gonna try and I'm gonna keep on putting out singles. [00:56:41] Speaker A: Do we know when the next one's going to be coming? [00:56:43] Speaker B: I don't know when, but I know what it is. It's. It's a song called Shovel and it's really deep. [00:56:51] Speaker A: I feel like you can go so many ways with a one word title. Yeah, like one word title. [00:56:56] Speaker B: I'm going to leave it at. [00:56:57] Speaker A: You can take it wherever you want. Tell me. I'm going to try to guess and you tell me the state that you were in when you were writing it. Like not physical, not the physical state. Like the mental state of like, where you were in your mind writing it. [00:57:15] Speaker B: The song's about, like, where was I? It was like. [00:57:28] Speaker A: Is it one where you were by yourself and you were screaming out lyrics late at night? Like, I know you like. [00:57:32] Speaker B: No, I was. I was in a writing session with. With Katie Cecil and Christianis here in town, and we wrote it and it's like, I can't remember where the idea really came from, but it's like it just came. It just came up and I think it is really cool and relatable. So we were like, yeah, we're gonna put that one out next. So called Shovel Hell. Yeah. Hopefully soon. [00:58:04] Speaker A: Yeah, man. I mean, it's. But it's also like the strategy of it. Like, you've got. Keeps me sane doing what it's doing. [00:58:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:11] Speaker A: So it's like, but. But that'll be a bridge to the next song and then the next song and then the next song. And then eventually you'll get a big full project out with all those things on them. Yeah, it's gonna be really cool. [00:58:21] Speaker B: I think we're. We're gonna put out a 16 song album. [00:58:24] Speaker A: I mean, you're gonna. You got enough. [00:58:25] Speaker B: You. [00:58:25] Speaker A: You've got a bulk of it, but I'm sure you have songs that you want to get out there that'll be a part of that 16. So then it's like, yeah, you strike me as a guy that every project's gonna be a chapter. Like, we're gonna go back on that first DP and say, all right, this was. This was Tyler one. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:40] Speaker A: And then we're gonna see the full length. Right. All right. It's evolving. And then it's evolving and it's evolving. That's so cool. [00:58:47] Speaker B: It's gonna be called. It's gonna be called Midwest Memoir. [00:58:50] Speaker A: Oh, that's the album title. [00:58:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:52] Speaker A: No way. [00:58:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:53] Speaker A: That's so cool. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's going to be called Midwest Memoir. This. Because a lot of the songs just have so many. So many, like, hints towards it or like, talks things about it. [00:59:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:07] Speaker B: Things about growing up in the Midwest and. Yeah. So it's going to be really cool. There's some really, really good songs. There's songs that, like, kind of blew me away whenever. Whenever they were finished up and I was like, dang, like, this stuff's really good. So. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that's wild, man. Yeah, it's all freaking happening. It's all happening, literally happening right now. [00:59:32] Speaker B: I'm so thankful for it. I. Yeah, I. I couldn't be any more thankful for it. It's just so crazy where things have gone, where my life's taken me just in. In such a short amount of time, so. [00:59:47] Speaker A: And it's redemption, too, dude. Yeah, it's the putting in. I look at it like in my own life of. I used. I was funny. I was talking with Iker video guy when we were dealing with all of our travel chaos last night with all the flights and having to drive to drive from Milwaukee to Chicago to wait four hours to get on a different plane. But I was telling him, I'm like, I used to sleep in my Toyota Corolla in the radio station parking lot when I was working and making like $10 an hour, busting my ass, you know? So I'm like, I look at that as like, the paying my dues and. Yeah, all that. And it's like, you haven't been in town very long. You haven't been putting out music very long, but in terms of life, you have paid your dues. [01:00:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like I have, anyways. [01:00:26] Speaker A: No, you have for sure. How many guys go up, and I'm sure there's. You'd be able to tell me. There's a lot of them and, you know, a lot of guys and girls that do that. But it's you. You go through stuff and there's light at the end of the tunnel and good things happen, man. Yeah, it's the way of the world. You know, you go through one thing and it leads to the next, and you wind up here on a podcast. Yeah, it's crazy. [01:00:50] Speaker B: It's kind of just what you make of, like, what you make of your struggles, really. And if you can. I mean, like, the way what I did was just write music for my struggles, so. And it's. It's been paying off, so just gonna. Gonna try to keep on going on the right path and. [01:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what it's all about. And as someone who listens to your stuff every day to the point where I notice when Keeps Me Sane wasn't on there, I'm like, thank you for doing what you do. Like, because you're making a difference to a lot of guys and girls and you're gonna be. You're gonna. I'm sure it started to happen already with. With the limited shows that you've been able to get out and do. [01:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:34] Speaker A: But this next time, now that you have a song like Keeps Me Sane, when you get out there, that next time that you're out and wherever playing a show. [01:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:42] Speaker A: You're going to have people singing that back to you. You're going to have tears in their eyes singing that back. Like just. You're going to have people where that, that'll be the highlight. That might even be the highlight of some of their years or their months. Like that'll be a moment they won't forget. Seeing you live, singing that song with. [01:01:57] Speaker B: You, I'm so stoked, you know, man, I'm so stoked. [01:02:00] Speaker A: It's so freaking cool, man. And I can't wait to get out there and see a full band show and watch you start selling things out and. And getting to go on cool tours, opening for people. Because you got a great team around you too, man. Yeah, you got, you got some of the best people in town. [01:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [01:02:17] Speaker A: Like shout out Noel. Setting us up back, back in the day now. Now we're buddies, man. And, and your management team and your records team and Wasserman. Like you got all the right tools, dude. Yeah, it's all, it's all happening. So I'm just happy I get to get to see you from square one and watch this, watch this train go up the track, man. So anything else you wanna, you wanna tell the people about? Because we don't know when the next song's coming. Right. [01:02:42] Speaker B: Don't know when the next song's coming, but it's coming soon. And taking the song to radio keeps me saying it's going to radio. [01:02:51] Speaker A: That's right. Because it's on SiriusXM right now. [01:02:53] Speaker B: Taking it to radio and working on getting some shows. I mean, I'll. I'm gonna put out the dates. I can't tell them right off my head. But hopefully within a month though, we'll have another, another song out. Hopefully sooner than that, but just trying to be strategic about everything and doing things the right way and, you know. Yeah. So. [01:03:18] Speaker A: Hell yeah, dude. [01:03:19] Speaker B: Album coming at some point. New song coming and more shows coming. Let's go and end over it and things are just coming. [01:03:29] Speaker A: Let's go, dude. Well, hopefully no more birds dive bombing into the side of your truck. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:36] Speaker A: That big old truck you got out in the parking lot, dude. But seriously, thank you so much for coming back on. Thanks for having, man, your family. Anytime we can ever do anything with your. Or offer support or. I just, I can't wait to get out to a damn show. [01:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:50] Speaker A: I'm so excited and, and Nashville shows are cool, but there's something special about when you live in Nashville and then you go on a little road trip and go watch your buddies play. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:59] Speaker A: To a crowd of people. The shows just hit differently out of town, you know. [01:04:03] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:04:04] Speaker A: It'll be sick, man. Well, y' all be sure to look up our man Tyler Nance if you don't know. Keeps me sane yet you're living under a damn rock. And be on the out for new music coming really soon. And call up your local radio stations, tell them to play that Keeps Me Sane. You'll be able to hear it all over the place in small town Missouri to New York City area where I'm from. And SiriusXM playing the hell out of it as well. Shout out to our friends from Surfside. VOD gut tea, vodka, lemonade. Great way to start off your night. They're they, they pack a nice little punch. Drink them on the boat. Drink them whenever at the ball game. Ike was drinking them at the brewers game the other night or the other day. So shout out to our good friends from Surfside. And for more on us, visit raiserowdy.com for my man Tyler. I'm Matt Brill. This has been outside the red I ain't never been the kind for stin one place for too long I ain't never been the best at sin I love you to a girl I love Only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just make em leave so if you know me if you really know you know I'm just a two trick pony but maybe the drink and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick pony yeah.