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Speaker 2 00:01:11 This is outside the round of Matt Barill for Raise Rowdy podcast.
Speaker 0 00:01:19 What's going on, dude, buddy, welcome back to Outside the Round with me, Matt Brill. Today we have got a very special guest, our first in a long time non-country guests. Uh, we told you guys when we rebranded to Outside the Round that we were gonna be getting guys and girls that span across all different genres of music that do things outside of music. And today we've got our good friend Ms. Taylor Acorn, a fellow Northerner hello native of Pennsylvania <laugh>. And you have been going literally all over the damn world, right?
Speaker 3 00:01:46 Yeah, it's been kind of crazy. Um, the, like, honestly, I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. We got back, um, I think it was like in the end of June, and I like, it still feels like it didn't even happen. And
Speaker 0 00:02:01 Those were like the big festivals. They were big. Like as a kid you watch on YouTube, like I remember watching like Slipknot set at like the Download festival Yeah. And like rock ing mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like all these big festivals in Europe and like spinning over to like Russia and all over the damn place. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it's like, you got to actually live that shit.
Speaker 3 00:02:18 I did. It was, it was unreal. And it's funny you say Slipknot because the very first, uh, festival we played was, um, rock for People and it was in like Czech Republic. And I was scheduled originally to play my slot during Slipknots and they were the very last band of the night to play. And I was like, there is no way in hell that anybody is gonna come watch me if we're playing when Slipknot is playing. And luckily we had somebody who was nice enough to be like, well, hey, you can play after them if you want, where there's a slim chance that like, everybody's gonna be tired and like wanna go back to their tents and stuff or go home. And, um, we decided to take that route and I'm so glad we did because they were the loudest band I've ever, it was the loudest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. They
Speaker 0 00:03:05 Do, they still have it. I've never seen them live, but I know they've been doing it for years. Like they, yeah. So they still rock. They still rock out. Cory still does his thing. It was,
Speaker 3 00:03:12 He does, and it was wild too because, um, their keyboardist, I guess they had let him go literally like the day before and they had made this big post about it and they're like, you know, at first it was kind of nice and then they took it down and then at that show they had his mask on like a turntable. So it looked like his head was on this turntable just spinning around. And there was like the new keyboardist and they're like, oh, who's this guy? But it was, it was wild. It was like the craziest thing I've ever seen
Speaker 0 00:03:38 Must be, I love festival culture. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we do a lot with like, with raised rowdy, we go to a lot of country festivals. Yeah. So, um, we're gonna be going to a rock festival, we're gonna be going to Louder than life this year. Oh no. Way up in, up in Kentucky. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because we have like a rock segment that we do with Rowdy, we call it Rowdy Alternative, our Boy Sam up in Cincinnati. And, um, the big one for us going to that is Limp Bizkit playing. Oh, we're big freaking way. We're big butt rock guys. <laugh>, we love that. That 90 from like 97 to like, listen, 2005, like Yeah. Creed, limp,
Speaker 3 00:04:06 Bizkit, stained, stained cuddle of mud, dude.
Speaker 0 00:04:08 Yeah. You're talking about language.
Speaker 3 00:04:10 Listen, I, um, I'm a huge butt rock fan as well, I guess if that's what you would call it. Dad Rock, butt
Speaker 0 00:04:15 Rock. Yeah. We, I see though, I, I did some research, so I used to work in radio too. Okay. I was, I was a radio DJ in Jersey mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it was funny, the last station I worked with was like soccer mom radio. No way. The, the moniker report was today's hits, yesterday's favorite's, magic 98.3, Nickelback
Speaker 3 00:04:29 <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:04:30 Oh. It was like, it was like Madonna and like Taylor Swift and Bruno Mars and Ed Sheeran. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And there's my 22 year old ass on there talking to all these like 50 year old moms on the radio. I love that. It was magic 98 point. That's amazing. But, um, I got to, um, but like the word butt rock, it comes from the rock stations back in the day. So like m m R outta Philly mm-hmm. <affirmative> stations like that. It was nothing but rock. Ah. So that's where that was like the two thousands thing makes sense. Which where it comes from sense, and of course it's spelled B we spelled b u t t, like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like butt rock, you know? Of course. Um, Nikki t um, my business partner in raised rowdy. Mm-hmm. It was actually at a festival up in Michigan this week, and a, we had a tattoo guy up there, buddy Mike stole mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Nikki got a butt rock tattoo on his butt.
Speaker 3 00:05:14 I
Speaker 0 00:05:14 Love that. Like, it's like, it's like a picture of like an ass. And then underneath it is the word rock's, and there's like an arrow pointing up that's bold's stinky t
Speaker 3 00:05:20 That's bold. I love that.
Speaker 0 00:05:21 It's, it's all a bit, it's all a bit, you know, Hey,
Speaker 3 00:05:23 I mean, you gotta commit to the bit sometimes. Exactly.
Speaker 0 00:05:25 So for you, you've been down here since 2017 mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, what kind of in like got you to be like, fuck it, I'm going to make this move down here.
Speaker 3 00:05:33 Um, so I've always loved music, but again, you and I kind of talked about beforehand, like we're both from the north. Yeah. And, um, I'm from a really small town called Wellsboro and like North Central pa, and it's literally an hour to like a mall. Um, we're kind of like closer towards like the New York State border, so like Corning and Almira and stuff like that. Yeah. But we still had to drive like an hour to get to anything remotely like fun. Um, and, you know, I graduated with a handful of kids, like it was a really small school and, um, no one really played music or made music or anything like that. Um, at least to like the standard that I wanted to, you know, I wanted to become like a songwriter, but also being in such a small town and no one really knowing how to do that.
Speaker 3 00:06:19 Yeah. I kind of just, you know, set that whole dream aside. And, you know, I, I went to college and I did that whole thing for a while. I ran track and field and tried to navigate my way through all of that. And I just always kept coming back to music. That was the one thing that could get me through any shitty time that I was going through, or like any breakup, anything. And, um, so I, I started to take it a little bit more seriously. I decided to leave school and my mom at that time had moved to Virginia and, um, I was working at Texas Roadhouse and I would go around and I would just like, play like three hour sets at like a diner or a bar or something like that. And granted, no one would ever like really show up to watch me. It was like my mom and maybe a handful of friends. And, um, at the same time I started doing little YouTube videos and I would do covers and, and things like that. And, um, a guy who was actually interning at Universal had found me on YouTube, um, because I had like one random Taylor Swift cover that just went absolutely viral. It was like when she had taken all of her work off of the internet and you could only buy it a
Speaker 0 00:07:27 Great time for Taylor Swift covers.
Speaker 3 00:07:29 Yes, yes. And I did a cover. And what happened was somebody like took that cover and they pitched it up and everybody thought it was Taylor Swift when it was really me. I remember going and like, burning a CD of like, Taylor Swift songs is obviously like broke, don't wanna have to buy a whole album. Yeah. And I remember listening to it and giving it to my sister, and she was like, why does this sound like you? And I looked and it was me. They had just taken my voice and like put like 1989 cover over it and just, you know, acted like it was Taylor Swift. But, um, he found me through that. And then he was like really encouraging me to go to Nashville. And at that time I'd kind of started dabbling with writing. I didn't know if I was any good and I wouldn't really share it with anybody. And then I started like, kind of posting videos of my songwriting here and there. Um, a lot of them I would delete because I was just like so insecure about it. But, um,
Speaker 0 00:08:20 Were you writing rock stuff or was it country at that time?
Speaker 3 00:08:22 I mean, like, I don't really know because my, my wheelhouse and what I've always loved is like rock music. Yeah. And like pop punk. And I grew up, you know, listening and going to like, warp tour. So listening to all those warp tour bands, like, so Sfar made a parade, like all Time Low, all of those bands. Um, and then I kind of found my way into like the deeper rock scene, like in this moment and stuff like that, which the, I don't think I could ever write that kind of music, but I did love it. And so I think like the style of music that I was writing was just kind of, of like a big mix of all of that. But I think my tone, um, whenever people would listen to it, they would instantly think like country. And obviously, you know, I'm a blonde girl and I'm tall and I played the guitar.
Speaker 3 00:09:09 And of course like the natural thing is you're like Taylor Swift, you know, <laugh>, like, you should do this. And so, um, that's kind of in my brain what I thought I needed to be doing at the time. And so, um, when this guy reached out to me and was like really wanting me to pursue music, I, everything that I was writing, you know, I would just write in my room, I home, I would send it over to him and like a voice memo and then he would send it off to a producer. They'd build the track. And then I flew to Nashville eventually and just did my whole like, I guess it was an ep, which was my very first project that I ever put out. That's awesome. And so it was really, it was like very weird how it all happened. And then from then on I was like, I guess a country artist, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:09:50 Doesn't it feel good to now like, be doing things that where you're like, you figure you figure it out? Yeah. It take, it takes time being in town, I think, to figure out mm-hmm. <affirmative> what your sound is like, who Taylor Acorn is mm-hmm. <affirmative> as an artist. 'cause writing, like, there's a lot of folks I think that come down here and they get, they get stuck in the, in the country thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And now Nashville's as much of a rock town people, people don't realize that there's a lot of rock coming out of Nashville. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, east Nashville, big rock scene, places like the End, like Marathon Music Works, does a lot of rock shows. Like there is a big rock presence here. There's so many, like guys like Aaron Lewis, you were talking about stained, like, there's rock artists, like Heritage rock artists that live here now mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it's as much a rock town as it is a country town. Like Yeah. So the perfect time for someone like you to be doing what you're doing.
Speaker 3 00:10:36 I know. I mean, and honestly, I think if there are a lot of times where I like look back and I'm like, damn, I wish I would've just like stuck with what I wanted to do from the beginning. But you're right. Like, we moved to a town like this to find our sound and to kind of figure out our own footing and like what we wanna say as artists and things like that. And so, like for me, you know, I was again, so fresh to everything. I had no idea about the music industry. I had no idea about like, writing music with other people and anything like that. And so I'm really happy that it's happening now because I feel like if it would've happened then I wouldn't have been able to appreciate it as much as I do now. Yeah, absolutely. And like, live through the moments that we've been through, like going to Europe and doing those things, like, I just, it's insane. Yeah. Like to look back on like, all of those times and how I even got here to begin with is like insane.
Speaker 0 00:11:27 Yeah. What were you guys traveling around in, in Europe? 'cause I spent a lot of time on the road. I've, I worked up until recently as a tour manager mm-hmm. <affirmative> for, for Trey Lewis. So I was out on the road with him in a van and a bandwagon and a bus, all kinds of stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And before that I was out with Musk on bloodline selling merch. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I've done the touring thing. Mm-hmm. I've done the a hundred something shows a year. Yeah. Gone all around the US mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but I've never gone like international. Like, so for you with the touring stuff, is it like, is it a lot of like van touring right now or? Uh, it,
Speaker 3 00:11:51 It was, um, so it was van touring when we were out there. Um, we were in like a little sprinter. It was crazy because the way everything was set up, we were kind of set up to fail. I won't lie, <laugh>. Um, we, I, I was working with somebody who kind of was like, go, go, go, go, go. Yes, yes, yes. To everything. And we were getting a lot of festival offers and I mean, it was insane and kind of unheard of for like a person to get that many, like their first time out there. Yeah. And so, um, you know, obviously me, I'm like, hell yeah, I've been wanting to do this like, my whole life I'm ready. And then it came time, you know, as an independent artist too, like I'm kind of footing the bill for everything. Yeah. And it's like getting closer.
Speaker 3 00:12:33 We had just gotten off tour two, so I'm like, oh my gosh, this is very expensive. Oh my gosh. Like, how are we gonna make it from point A to point B? And we only have like, set amount of hours and like all of these things. So it was like really stressful. Um, but we, we hit like, um, we were in Prague like the first couple of days, then we were in Austria, we went to, um, Switzerland, which was amazing. Um, England we did that. We played a couple shows in London and then we did Germany. I'm trying to think, um, Switzerland, there was a bunch of 'em. Yeah. But we drove through to everything. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:13:07 You, yeah. When you, like, there's those videos that just pop up in people's, like Instagram algorithms mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it's like this scenic view of like Switzerland. Yeah. And it just, it looks like it's out of a fucking movie. Yeah. Like, is it like that when you're out there too, where it's just you see these mountains and you're like, how the fuck did I get here?
Speaker 3 00:13:21 Literally. And where, where we played too. Um, we played at the Greenfield Festival and it's in Interlochen. I don't know if you like, have heard anything about that. No. But it was literally like, the drive up was insane. Like the lakes are just crystal clear. There's mountains and like foot waterfalls that are like just coming off of, and it's just wild because obviously in Tennessee, like there are really pretty spots, but nothing like that, you know. And so, um, we get to the festival and we are literally in like a valley just surrounded by mountains. And it was the most unreal thing. I remember just being on stage and kind of getting distracted by like the whole scenery and like forgetting where I was and what I was doing, because I was like, what is going on? This is insane. Yeah. You know? Um, but the, the people are very different there. Um, they're very wonderful, but like the culture and everything is just getting used to all of that was really weird
Speaker 0 00:14:18 Too. Yeah. Now who'd you have on the road is like a, is like a crew. So you have your band out there with you and then Yes.
Speaker 3 00:14:23 So I had my band, um, and then I had my tour manager here from the us She was with us, um, just because she's like, she's one of those people where it's like she watches something one time and then she can do it for like the rest of forever. That's,
Speaker 0 00:14:37 That's great. To, to have a tour manager.
Speaker 3 00:14:38 Like, she literally will set up our sound, everything. So she, she's got her stuff down. Um, we had gotten, um, a tour manager from the uk so she was with us. And then, um, my boyfriend, he does like photo and video. Oh. So great. So he came out with us. He was a treat because he, he tour and, and does video and stuff for some artists that are quite bigger than I am. So like for him to come out and like, give us his time was really awesome.
Speaker 0 00:15:04 That's cool. How'd you, how'd you get connected with, how'd you get connected with him? What's the, what's the, oh, the, what's the romantic story? <laugh>, because you write a lot of songs that are like, of that like breakup angle mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but then also like, I think I'm in love Yeah. Which a lot of people can relate to. Yeah. You know mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 3 00:15:18 Um, so our story is really funny actually. Um, he is also from Pennsylvania. He's from Johnstown, which is kind of like on the other side. Yeah. But, um, he, he is a really good friends with this guy Dan that I write with. They were like college roommates. And oddly enough, when I first moved to Nashville, Dan, the guy that I write with all the time, who's friends with my partner now, um, he was dating a girl that I grew up with, like from my hometown. It was very weird. And so we kind of all got linked up that way. And, um, at that time, you know, I was in another relationship kind of doing my own thing in the country world. I just started like with my publishing and everything like that. So my head was in a completely different space. I think I had met him in like, passing super quickly and maybe he messaged me on Instagram and was like, I heard you did track. We should all go hurdle sometime <laugh>. And it was, he was actually talking about me going hurdling with him and his girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 0 00:16:14 What a line.
Speaker 3 00:16:15 Very weird. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, I just don't know anybody that like ran track. And so I guess he just thought it would be fun if we all like went to the track together or something. And, um, I just remember reading it and kind of just like disregarding it. I was like, yeah, whatever. <laugh>, you know? Yeah. And, um, then, uh, fast forward a couple years, um, Dan, uh, his friend was playing for my band and, um, I, my Dalton my boyfriend, he had come and he was there to like, take photos and stuff like that. And I kind of, you know, met him again and I was like, oh, this guy's pretty cool. And then, um, you know, couple years went by after that. And then, um, like right before Covid hit I started hanging out with Dan and like his friend group a little bit more. And, um, I saw Dalton, he came into the studio one day and he looked completely different than he did the first
Speaker 0 00:17:08 He looks good.
Speaker 3 00:17:09 <laugh>. He had just got back from Europe too, and he had like green hair and like, you know, just skater boy that I was like, who is this guy? And um, I'd asked Dan, I was like, is he single? And he was like, yes he is. And so I kind of, I shoot my shot and I slid into him his dms and the rest is history from there. That's awesome.
Speaker 0 00:17:29 Yeah. Yeah. I'm see, I'm in a happy relationship myself. Yeah. And it started out of the, out of the dms. No way. It was a react. She reacted to one of my stories. That's awesome. So it wasn't intentional. Yeah. Like, her and I had never really met each other. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then she met up at, funny enough at Tin Roof to watch, no way to watch one of our buddies play. And then it started as like a casual thing. And now it's like, bullshit. That's awesome. I think I'm in love. How long have
Speaker 3 00:17:49 You guys
Speaker 0 00:17:49 Been together? So we started hanging out in November, but No way. But we've been together since, been like fully together since like middle of April. That's awesome. Now I'm like, I'm like going. She's got, she's got a little daughter. So I was like at her kid's birthday party at a trampoline park with a bunch of That's awesome. A bunch of screaming five year olds this week. I love that though. It's, yeah. But it's, it's funny how that works. And you're talking about Covid mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it's like obviously one of the weirdest times in world history mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but I feel like so many people found themselves. Yeah. And like had, like for me, I found myself mm-hmm. <affirmative> during that time. I moved down here in 2018. I was like bouncing on Broadway and going out on tour with, with the Muang guys. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then the world shuts down. I had time to kind of find myself Yeah. And then find the friend group that I think I I needed to be with the whole time. Yeah. And I wanna be where I'm at right now. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, especially in this room in the, the Trey Louis DMM Monday Studios. Yeah. That's awesome. Without Covid. So it's like, it's funny, like, so for Covid, did you, were you down here or did you go back to Pennsylvania? Or like, what was your I here 2020. Like I
Speaker 3 00:18:43 Was here, um, I was here, it was, um, I had just actually moved into a house with my best friend Emma and another artist. And um, so like, we literally, like, we had just moved in, we're like, Aw, single girl summer, it's gonna be awesome. And then, um, one of the girls ended up getting a boyfriend. And then obviously I met Dalton again. Um, and yeah, I mean he and I started talking right before Covid hit and then we got stuck in it together. So we stayed here in Nashville and it was really fun. I mean, I, I won't lie, I think we were probably one of the first groups to ever get Covid. <laugh>. Yeah. Which was kind of scary at the time because like, no one really knew what was happening. And, um, uh, the girl that I lived with at the time, um, she had tweeted about it and Bobby Bones reached out to us and there was like this whole like, radio segment and my mom heard it and she was like, calling. She's like, oh my God, what's going on? Like, freaking
Speaker 0 00:19:42 Out. I was, I think I know the artist you're talking about too. I think I know her. Is it Kaylee? Yes. Yes. Okay. So I know, I know Kaylee. Yeah. Well too, I know Sam, we had, yes. Sam Varga was one of my, one of the last podcasts I did before Covid, we had him, we aired that I think right around St. Patrick's Day. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it was like in between the tornado and Covid. Yeah. In 2019. And Kaylee's first headlining show outside of Nashville or outside of Maine. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> was in Hoboken, New Jersey. No way. When I was working in the scene up there. That's awesome. And I got to kind of mc and like help out with her first show. That's so in, in Hoboken at Maxwell's Tavern in 2017, I wanna say. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it was like 16 or 17. Yeah. So That's funny. Small world shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:20:20 Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, I, her, I remember, I remember like clear as day my mom calling and being like, oh my God, you have Covid. What's going on? Poppy Bow is talking about it. And I was like, oh no. Um, but we were totally fine and we had so much fun. Like, um, we would, like, we lived right on South Street actually at the time. That's a, that's a good spot to be. It was great. And I mean, my, my roommate Emma and I, or she was my roommate at the time, my best friend Emma and I, um, we both skate and so when it was like completely dead out there, we would just go and skate like music row. And it was amazing. It was like probably some of the best times in like the worst time ever. That's
Speaker 0 00:21:01 How I feel the last six months when I moved back down. 'cause I spent time with my aunt and uncle's farm in East Tennessee. Mm-hmm. I've played New Yorker living on the farm, building fences and cutting grass and working with horses and shit. <laugh>. It was, it was a time, it was awesome. But then coming back I started playing pickup kickball games with people and there you go. That's how I met. I met Trey, Trey Lewis mm-hmm. And was very involved when, when Dick down in Dallas came out. That's awesome. All that stuff. And it's like, but that last six months it was just bonfires at people's houses. Right. 'cause the bars were closing at 10 mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, not being able to do the things, not being everybody being off the road Yeah. And getting to actually hang out with each other. Yeah. And being able to hang out in small groups with the small group that you wanted to hang out with. Yeah. Not going to Red Door and play the Hey, how you been Oh, you've been on the road. I've been on the road. It's just like yeah. The bullshit conversations you have at Winners and Losers and fucking Red Door and Live Oak and, and Tin Roof, which I love all those places, but it's, it's not, there's something to be said for just hanging out mm-hmm. <affirmative> with your crew and bonding Right. In a time where you're kind of stuck.
Speaker 3 00:21:57 Yeah. I mean, our biggest comparison, I mean, I remember Emma and I, we had a lot of conversations about it, but her and I, I mean, the biggest comparison was it felt like a summer when we were back in high school. Yeah. Like, because, you know, you can't go out and do anything. You can't like go out and drink. You can't go and like, socialize like you usually are able to. And I mean, it was just like, you had to literally make your own fun. And we did <laugh>. We did. And we, we really tried to make the best of it. And, and like you said, like surrounding yourself with that group. Um, I was very fortunate to have been around a group that we all got sick at the same time. So we were kind of just like, well, we're in this together now, so Yeah. Let
Speaker 0 00:22:35 Watch, let's watch Tiger King. Here we are.
Speaker 3 00:22:37 Yeah. We we did that too. So
Speaker 0 00:22:39 Joe exotic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:22:40 It was, it was wild. But, um, yeah, I mean, and, and also too covid, like as rough as it was, it, it like really, really kicked off a lot of artists' careers with like, TikTok and stuff.
Speaker 0 00:22:53 Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm proof of it, you know. Same, actually we were, we were doing, yeah. So what was, what was kind of the first, your first impression of doing the TikTok thing? Because I feel like TikTok, YouTube shorts reels, like the short form shit. You've done very well at that. Oh, thank you. And it's, and it's, and it's awesome to watch like, the little snippets of the videos or like the promos and the music that you've put out since 2020 has really catapulted you to being like, this is the artist that I want to be. You imm doing. I'm doing things my way and it's cool to fucking see. Thank you. I appreciate because I remember, I remember seeing you grind before Covid mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, I remember seeing, seeing your name out there mm-hmm. <affirmative> and seeing you doing the country thing, but mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you seem so much more comfortable doing the rock. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3 00:23:31 So much more. It was actually like a battle. I won't lie. Um, I did not wanna do TikTok ever.
Speaker 0 00:23:38 I feel like nobody did. Nobody that was doing music before, before Covid. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> wanted to do TikTok.
Speaker 3 00:23:43 Yeah. Nobody wanted to. I'm, I'm just like, I'll be completely honest, I am like a baby deer with fresh legs when it comes to social media. Like, I don't know what I'm doing half the time, most of the time. Um, and so, like for me it's too, also too, I'm like a very shy person outside of like, my career, which is really weird. I feel like there's actually a lot of artists that are like that. Yeah. I'm sure. Like really introverted, but like, for me to like, put myself out there, it takes a lot of energy. Uh, and um, so that was the thing I was like really nervous about. I'm like, if I do this, like everybody's gonna think I'm so dumb. Like they're not gonna like what I have to say or what I do. And I just, I was like, I'm not funny enough to like do jokes and things and I had no idea really what to do.
Speaker 3 00:24:32 And I know like before Covid had hit, I'd kind of dabbled with like the covers and stuff. Like, I had done a John Mayer cover and, and things and they were really successful. But, um, you know, I, I had seen a lot of people doing like, you know, the driver's license covers and like Justin Bieber and I just didn't, I just didn't wanna do that. I, I just didn't want to kind of fall into that, um, like that cover world again. And I just decided one day I was like, I'm just gonna deep dive back into like, my old music and like my old iTunes, like, you know, playlists and things like that. And um, uh, I decided to do a cover of Jamie all over. And when I posted that, it just like skyrocketed everything for me really. And it was like, I think every day after that I had posted a new, like, stripped down version of an emo cover. And, um, yeah, I don't know. It was, it was really wild. And it got to a point where I had people literally like messaging me, like requesting like a billion songs. And it got a little overwhelming after a while, but like, it was really cool.
Speaker 0 00:25:37 Yeah. When did the original stuff kind of start taking off? What, what song was it of this batch of, of new stuff that we've, that we've seen from you? 'cause I know you, you put out, oh my gosh, I know Coma Iss the latest single mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But you've had a few being, I feel like, like Psycho was a big one for you.
Speaker 3 00:25:49 Psycho was a big one. Um, you know, I, because I was really afraid of like the whole like falling into the TikTok cover thing or like the cover artist thing. I did try to like really like mesh my own music in with the covers too. Um, I had a couple songs that I had never released, um, that did pretty well, um, on TikTok, but I think it, it really didn't start until, um, I think True Crime because that's kind of when people were like, oh, it's like a mold of like country and emo Yeah. And so it was like kind of a new thing and it was like that whole alternative thing. And, but at that, even then, like as much as I love that song and it did really well, um, as like a first single back in everything, um, it, I just still didn't feel right, like towing the line between country and, and pop punk. And I, I feel like I just needed to like jump ship
Speaker 0 00:26:47 Yeah. And go all in what?
Speaker 3 00:26:48 And just go all in into the pop punk stuff. And so, yeah. Um, I think then like when we released in my head, that was kind of like, people were like, okay, cool. She's like a pop punk artist now. Like, this is where you should have been all along, you know? Yeah. And, um, then it just, it just kind of got crazy after that then like Psycho and, and all of that stuff. And Shapeshifting especially is another one, um, that's like one of my favorite songs. And people fought me on that one. Really. And I remember showing, I remember showing like a lot of, a lot of people and it was between Psycho and Shapeshifting and everybody freaked out over Psycho. But I, I was like, shape-shifting. Is it like, I love this song so much. Yeah. And I don't care what anybody tells me. I'm gonna put it out regardless. And, and I feel like that's a song that a lot of people resonate with you. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:27:35 I listened to both of those today when I was at the gym. No, I <laugh> I was on, I was on, I was on, I was doing my damn cardio and Level 15 Incline at, at three and a half. And I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm listening to shit. I got up to four on that. I was sweating my fucking as ass off. Did I listen to, I love that song and the energy, the energy in those songs, and I'm sure it translates over to the, to the, uh, to the live show. Oh my
Speaker 3 00:27:54 God. It's, and it shape shifting is, is really cool. I mean, both of them are like, definitely, I would say out of all of the songs that I play, they're like more fan favorites. Um, but Shape Shifting is just like, it's the moment, it's like going into the last course where it's, there's no music and it's just like a raw vocal. Like, I stopped singing and I let them sing. And I mean, this last, I, when we were at Download Festival was actually like probably the most eye-opening, um, thing for me because there was probably like seven, 8,000 people in that sense. That's
Speaker 0 00:28:35 A lot of fucking people. And
Speaker 3 00:28:36 I think every single person was singing that part.
Speaker 0 00:28:39 And in another part of the world hearing your music. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:28:43 And it was just like, it's crazy. It was insane. And so, like, I'm, I'm really happy that like of all the songs, people love that one. And like, I've seen so many, like, so many nights that we've played where like people really just like feel that one and they really get into it. And, you know, they, they'll come up to me afterwards. And also in like, videos and too, it's not only just like women, but it's men. And it's like,
Speaker 0 00:29:09 I'm, I'm proof of that. I'm, I'm a tailor Acorn Stan. I listen to that shit. Yeah. Thank
Speaker 3 00:29:13 You. So yeah, like I'm, I'm really proud of, of that one and I'm really glad that it, it's, it's done what it has and it's also still like, still hanging on, so
Speaker 0 00:29:23 Yeah. Oh, it's, it's just continuing to grow and that's like the power of me. Mm-hmm. Obviously it's, it's different now with Yeah. With streaming. But I feel like streaming has given so many artists, especially on the indie side, like yourself Yeah. An opportunity to be heard mm-hmm. <affirmative> by the masses around the world. And playlisting is so key. And I, I saw you, you're on, you're on quite a few, quite a few playlists, which that's gotta be pretty fucking cool too.
Speaker 3 00:29:44 It is. And, and I, I won't lie, I had, um, I always kind of had like lost hope in playlists 'cause I was like, ah, they're not gonna playlist me. You know? And then, um, when, when the stuff started taking off on TikTok, I just saw a very organic, like, crossover from like that platform to Spotify. And I think that's when they're like, okay, wait, something must be going on here. So they started adding me to, um, some playlists and stuff. And also too, I think like a lot of the curators had no idea where to put me. Because you look at my Spotify and you see like all of like the recommended artists and they're all country. Yeah. And
Speaker 0 00:30:20 So it's noticed that today it's like, what
Speaker 3 00:30:21 Is she, is she country? Is she rock? Is she pop? Like no one really knew where to put me. So I don't blame them for like, not knowing, you know, what playlist to stick me on. But I'm very thankful for the, the love that they've shown me.
Speaker 0 00:30:34 I kind of like, I kind of like, I kinda like when an artist like creates his or her own genre mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, you see that a lot right now in country. Like a great example. We had, um, I dunno if you're familiar, do you know the Duo Lake View? Have you seen
Speaker 3 00:30:45 I I've heard of them. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:30:46 So they're, they're guys that grew up in the, in the hardcore scene. Yeah. But
Speaker 3 00:30:48 Like, yeah, they do like metal, right? Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:30:50 Like the Christian, like hardcore scene, like the straight edge, like guys that are there to just deck somebody and like in like a Fox's pizza den, like weird, like red, like
Speaker 3 00:30:58 The, like that kind of van.
Speaker 0 00:31:00 Like that. Or like the, like the, what the fuck is up Denny's? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like that style got like that world. But now it's like they've, they've blended that with like country That's cool. And their shows are still like hardcore where they're trying, they want the country crowd that do a circle pitch <laugh>. They, they're trying to, trying to get to. That's insane. But it's likes insane. People ask me, they're like, what? What's Lakeview? And I'm like, it's, it's Lakeview. It's its own thing.
Speaker 3 00:31:21 Yeah. It's its
Speaker 0 00:31:21 Own thing. It's like if someone asks me like, what's, who's, who's this tiller? I'm like, she's doing music her way. It's not country. It's not pop, it's not rock. It's a little bit of, little bit of everything. 'cause there is storytelling within your, within your songs or like the where like the songwriter like country stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> is kind of in there. Yeah. But the fucking riffs and the grooves and the melodies and the breakdowns <laugh> are sick.
Speaker 3 00:31:41 Thank you.
Speaker 0 00:31:42 It's really fun. I appreciate that. Cool. So did you have, you played a lot in town. Like have you, did you do the, the Whiskey Jam thing, the downtown thing at all? Like were do you, did, were you ever a Broadway person or,
Speaker 3 00:31:51 Um, not really. Um, you know, I, I would do like writer's rounds here and there and like, you know, I think I, a few times I played at like WildHorse Saloon and stuff, but like, I would usually play outside. Like I, I did, um, the circuit where like we'd play like saddlebags and like, we'd go to like Dubuque or Iowa.
Speaker 0 00:32:14 Like I know, like Saddlebags. I've had, I've had some times down there. Yeah. <laugh>, Savannah, Georgia is a time the one of the weirdest load-in you'll ever have because you can't park a fucking vehicle No. On that cobblestone road. <affirmative>. And you're just in like this basement. Yeah. And those, those kids, those guys and girls down there get wild saddlebags.
Speaker 3 00:32:30 They're wild. And it was so funny 'cause like, when I would play there, I mean, I would do a lot of my like, original stuff, but we played like pop punk songs. Yeah. Like we, we played emo like songs and, um, the kids out there, they would go absolutely wild. We had a handful of times where like I would have somebody come up to me and be like, play Cody Johnson. Like get mad when I was like, yeah, no, I,
Speaker 0 00:32:55 I don't, it's not, that's not me.
Speaker 3 00:32:57 Yeah. I was like, that's not me. Sorry. Like you're gonna hear, um, you know, the Middle by Jimmy World. Yeah. You know what I mean? Um, but yeah, I mean there, we, we played a lot of pop punk covers and stuff and it was cool because I think like people weren't really expecting that, especially at like a country bar like that. Yeah. Um, and that was always a really fun time also too. Like, we'd go ride the bull after and stuff.
Speaker 0 00:33:21 Oh yeah. So Saddlebag, you said Iowa. Where else were some other early spots for you? I mean, I think we've done kind of the sim similar like club circuit. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Especially in the Southeast. And in the Midwest. We do, we do
Speaker 3 00:33:32 Like, I'm trying to think like we play in Georgia. I can't,
Speaker 0 00:33:37 Did you ever do Athens? Did you ever do like 40 Watt Yes. Or Georgia Theater? No,
Speaker 3 00:33:42 We played at like, this,
Speaker 0 00:33:42 Was it Hedges at the time?
Speaker 3 00:33:44 Well see, like we didn't really play a ton. Like we would do, um, like really random things. Like we played at like this, I can't even remember what it's called. It's been a minute. Um, but it was like a barber shop that like turned into a theater at night kind of thing. Like a,
Speaker 0 00:34:02 Some Georgia shit music venue.
Speaker 3 00:34:03 Yeah. Yes. And like we would do like little things like that and like, just random, like one-off things. But um, like as far as like the touring goes, it was always like, you know, Saddlebacks or like,
Speaker 0 00:34:18 Did you ever go to Statesboro? Mm-hmm. You never did the Blue Room? Nope. Okay. Yeah, because that's a place where the pop punk stuff does what? There's rock bands that go into there mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But 'cause Statesboro is like the home to like where Luke Bryan started and Cole Swindell and Yeah. Dylan Marlowe and a lot of these mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the South Georgia, the, the good old boys. The country boys, the good old boys. Yep. But there's a lot of like, there's a lot of route glove in the southeast too and in Georgia. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 3 00:34:40 I mean, Atlanta is one of like the best cities to play. Yeah. Um, and that one, I mean, we always, always, always have a, a really great turnout and the kids show up and they sing loud. Yeah, they do. And it's really fun. But I, you know, it's, it's so different touring in the world that I'm in now versus in country. Um, because now I'm like actually getting hit, like the, I guess it would be considered more or less like touring now than it was before when I was in the country world. And so, like, I'm getting a hit like all of the east Coast
Speaker 0 00:35:17 Yeah. Cities. So do you have a lot of stuff coming up?
Speaker 3 00:35:20 I do. So, um, I'll tell you, we have a headlining first headlining tour in November.
Speaker 0 00:35:25 Dude, congrats. That's fucking thank you. Awesome. Thank you. That's gotta feel so good from doing Weekend Warrior shit and going and playing just random spots mm-hmm. Where you're mixing in a lot of covers. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, these people are paying money and they're buying your merch mm-hmm. <affirmative> and they're paying to see you sing your songs. Yeah. Like, that's so fucking cool.
Speaker 3 00:35:41 Thank you. And I mean, we've, we've done a few like, support runs. Um, like we did the first, the first real one was like real friends and the home team and with confidence, like those bands was just like crazy. 'cause I was like, I literally went from playing country music now I'm like thrown it into like the deep punk scene, you know? Yeah. Um, and then we did like the Somerset, but, um, and those were so awesome. But I'm ready. I think it's been such a long time coming now. I feel like it's also really cool because I have a lot of fans from the country days that have stuck with me and like are showing up to like these real friends like tours and these Somerset tours and they're like, I've never even heard of these other bands. But they stick around and they listen and they're now kind of like incorporating pop punk in their own like playlists and stuff. It's really cool. That's awesome. So, um, it's gonna be really interesting seeing like what we end up doing for like, the headlining stuff. It's gonna be a mix of like moshing and crowd surfing and then like country. Have you,
Speaker 0 00:36:42 Have you crowd surfed yet?
Speaker 3 00:36:44 I haven't, but I do. I mean, my, my tour manager, she usually does like, oh, she, the last
Speaker 0 00:36:49 Show show. Oh. She just jumps. She just
Speaker 3 00:36:50 Jumps off. Oh my God. She'll just go like, and I'll see her just like flying through like the crowd and I'm like, you're supposed to be on the side stage. Whatcha you doing? <laugh>. That's awesome. Like what if like, our, my guitarist Ricky, I'm like, what if he needs something? Like his string breaks, he needs this other guitarist. Something like she's
Speaker 0 00:37:05 Just flying around.
Speaker 3 00:37:06 I'll see her. Yeah. And then like sometimes my camera girl, Ellie, she'll like go up and she'll do it too. But, um, we get a lot of crowd surfers, which is like, so I like just get so excited
Speaker 0 00:37:16 When happens. Yeah. That brings back the nostalgia of being at the Warp Tour. Like Yeah. My, uh, my college girlfriend, she was also from Pennsylvania. Yeah. 'cause I went to, I went to, uh, Ryder University. Yeah. So right on the right on the Bucks County border. Yeah. So mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I spent a lot of time going, going over to Bucks County. Yep. And I got, I got, um, brought to an all time low concert. Oh wow. It was all time low state champs and issues and it issues. It was a, and this was 20, I wanna say 2016 I think. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> 20 15, 20 16. And I was not ready. I just remember holding my, holding my girlfriend at the time by her belt loop and like, you're not going anywhere, Lord, because I won't see you again.
Speaker 3 00:37:53 I was gonna say also too, issues is like kind of a wild card in that mix. So like,
Speaker 0 00:37:57 And they were the first ones up and they had like the Pokemon thing going on, like the Pokemon balls. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I was like, what the fuck? It's this crazy, because I love the heavy riffs. Like I, I'm a big, big rock guy. Um, but I work in country. That's what's funny. Yeah. There's so much like crossover between rock and country. Like, you look at guys like Hardy that are doing their shit. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:38:14 He's another one. I was like, really? I mean, it's so cool to see. And also like, uh, Royal Lynn, like she's, oh,
Speaker 0 00:38:20 Royal's a badass. She's a good friend of ours.
Speaker 3 00:38:21 Oh's a, she's a good friend of mine and she's, she's really awesome. And, and her, and I mean we, I've, I talked with her about a lot of like the country, like the alternative stuff because when I started kind of dabbling in that she had reached out to me and she, you know, had like done like the Rocket Man song and things like that. And she was telling me, she was like, I wanna do like metal, but I want it to also be country. I was like, that's really interesting <laugh>. Yeah. But I mean obviously like she is doing such a good job with it and like there is a lane, like there's a lane for everything. And also too, like, like you said, like you're a country guy that loves rock music. There are a lot of country people that love rock music.
Speaker 0 00:39:04 Yeah. I mean, you see it and then you see the crossover. And I know she's a co-writer with you mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Cassidy Pope. Yeah. Who started out literally is one of the, one of the, one of the forefathers mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I guess Foremothers of Pop-Punk back with the Hey Monday stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> all hell. And to see where she's at, to see then the transition that, the transition that she made and now where she's at, where it's like a little bit of a blend of, of all of it. Yeah. And she's getting to do what she wants to do. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like it's the, it's the time's for the, the fusion, you know? Yeah. It's like you go a Fusion restaurant, music is all fusion right now mm-hmm. <affirmative>, especially here in Nashville. It's
Speaker 3 00:39:34 Really fucking cool, especially, and it's, it's just really cool to see. And I'm, you know, if it, if it's not me doing it, I'm just glad that like, there are people that are doing like the country and, and like the pop punk.
Speaker 0 00:39:45 Yeah. And there's so many guys and girls that are rock players mm-hmm. <affirmative> that are now in country. Yeah. Like, you look at even like, like the guys in Brentley Gilbert's Band, they're all Metalheads metal. The guys that, the guys that play even, even in Rey's band, they're, they're rock guys by Trade.
Speaker 3 00:39:58 Mitchell Timpe, I mean Mitchell. Yeah. All of Thoses. Those guys were, you know, like, um, Kyle Fishman, he was a guy that I used to write at the same publishing companies he did. And I mean, they were in metal bands like him and I know Hardy was Yep. I know Ernest. All of those guys were in like the rock scene and they've done, I mean, Mitchell did a feature with state champs and Yeah. I mean, it's just cool to see like the crossover. It's something that you would, like five years ago you would've never seen. Yeah. Because like the pop-punk scene, like that warped tour scene was not cool.
Speaker 0 00:40:30 <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:40:31 But now it's like, you know, I feel like people are, they're feeling so much more comfortable and they're like, well, I'm gonna bring the music that I like into the music that I make.
Speaker 0 00:40:38 Yeah. I mean, and so it's really cool. Look, look, get tomorrow night at Bridgestone. I'm, I'm missing my round. We got, I got my buddy Jaice filling in hosting for me. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'll be at Bridgestone for a sold out show of Nickelback Brantley Gilbert and our boy Josh Ross. So it's like, that's so wild. It's, it's like you have, you have Josh who's like the mainstream, like up and coming country bro outta Canada, a good friend of ours, Brantley Gilbert, who's like one of the forefathers of like rock and bro country and then fucking Nickelback. Like you would've never imagined a tour like that happening. And for it to be selling, like it is a mixture of country fans and rock fans. Like, it's, it's great to see,
Speaker 3 00:41:10 I'm gonna say this right now too, if anybody that's watching this says You don't like Nickelback, you are a liar. Yeah. You are a liar. There's
Speaker 0 00:41:17 People that, there's people that say they like Nickelback and then there's liars.
Speaker 3 00:41:20 Oh my God, I freaking love that
Speaker 0 00:41:22 One. That was one of my, the first CDs I ever bought as a kid. I remember I bought 'em at Target, uh, back when Target had that big, big CD section that mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, tower Records, um, f y e like you go into those stores and buy your CDs and stuff. And I remember getting Kenny Chesney, no Shoes, no shirt, no problems, and then Nickelback for all the right reasons.
Speaker 3 00:41:38 It was so funny. I was having a conversation with, um, someone not too long ago and they were asking about like, the most underrated bands and I, I said Nickelback because they were like one of those bands that were like not supposed to be as big as they were. Yeah. But they're so huge and it makes me so happy because I, I still to this day, I remember sitting in the car, I was like probably like seven or eight years old when like, how you remind me came on Oh yeah. The radio. And I remember watching it on, on on M T V and just being like, oh my God, I love these guys. They're so cool. Chad Kroger's hair,
Speaker 0 00:42:12 Everything with put with his ramen noodle hair. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:42:14 Yeah. Um, and I know people would always say like, that he's so ugly and all this stuff. I was like, you guys are blind. I loved him. And then when he started dating Avril Levine and they got married, I was like, mom and dad. That's my mom and dad. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:42:28 Yeah. So you, I would imagine Avril Levine a pretty big influence for you, right?
Speaker 3 00:42:32 Yeah. She, I mean for sure. For sure. I think, um, probably like a little less than I think what people think. Um, I am honestly probably the most inspired by Amy Lee. Um Okay. Like Evanescence. Yes. So that was like my, I mean, I remember getting the fallen record. I was like eight years old and like you, you know, back then it was like you got a cd, you had like a karaoke machine that was half karaoke machine and also CD player and I would like plug in my little Sony head over the head headphones and I would listen to that album at like 6:00 AM in the morning, like my tourniquet and stuff. Yeah. And then I look back, I'm like, no wonder why I am like so dark <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:43:10 Yeah. There were some, there were some, some strong female bands, like female led bands back then. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you look at Evanescence, obviously Paramor. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. You look at Hailstorm, you look at Flyleaf. Yeah. People sleep on, on Fly Leaf Fly so many fucking
Speaker 3 00:43:21 So sick. And
Speaker 0 00:43:22 They were, it literally so sick. They
Speaker 3 00:43:24 Really were so sick. Um, but yeah, no, I, I was a huge, like, I was a huge and still am to this day, like a huge Evanescence fan and she was, they were at Download and I missed them by a day and I was so sad. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:43:40 Who I was so sick. Yeah. Of those like lineups that you were at, like those festivals mm-hmm. <affirmative>. 'cause rock festivals and country festivals are different. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like we went to one festival up in, up in Ohio. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, in Fort LoRa, me, it's called Coun. It's literally called Country Concert. Very original name <laugh>. It's been going on for 42 years. The B Y O B. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like 35,000 person festival. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And the lineups just massive because they do a big side stage there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the rock festivals, you have like close to a hundred bands at these things. It's insane. Like it's nuts. It's with's insane. Three or four stages. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it's just going all day, all night. Mm-hmm. Like a different world. What was like, holy shit, I'm on the lineup with this band.
Speaker 3 00:44:13 Um, well definitely like we played a lot of the same festivals that Slipped Knot did. And that was wild because I was like, alright, Slipknot me <laugh>. How does that make sense? Yeah. It doesn't <laugh>. Um, but I mean, it was really cool. Like the first festival we, we played, um, simple Plan was there.
Speaker 0 00:44:34 Oh dude.
Speaker 3 00:44:35 And I got to sing with them. Really? Uh, yeah. I sang Jet Lagged with them. Dude, that's, it was really cool. Awesome. Yeah. Um, that was really cool. I, um, hadn't listened to that song in like, probably since like 2011. So like, or whenever it came out. I can't, it was like a long time ago. Yeah. That song came out. Um, and I, I had to like, relearn it that day. I had like two hours to learn it again. Yeah. So I, I uh, I went on stage and I sang that with them and it was really cool 'cause I was like, this is a band I've looked up to and like, physically remember like watching their videos on like M T V.
Speaker 0 00:45:12 Yeah. When you would t l Yeah. When you would've t r l and you'd see a good Charlotte music video followed by a simple plan followed by a Yeah. A throwback to PS Somem 41 in the early, early two thousands. Like those were the good old days. It
Speaker 3 00:45:22 Was insane. And I mean, like, even, you know, I love the band I prevail and like, being on the same lineup as them too. And like, I mean, there's a lot of bands that I really love. Like Sand Atlantic is a pop-punk band. I really love, um, I'm trying to think of like, the bigger artists. Um, Evan Essence. I mean, that's crazy. Just to even like, see my name and like them on the same like little banner. Yeah. Machine Gun Kelly. That was really cool.
Speaker 0 00:45:50 What is his, what is his show like? 'cause he's another artist talking about fusion and just having different chapters within his career from, I mean, it's rap to rock to this, to that. Like, he's all over the place.
Speaker 3 00:46:00 I mean, it's a rock show now. It's really cool. And he like, I mean, he's kind of crazy. He like climbs on like all of the um, like the stage setups and stuff. Oh really? Yeah. He's like pretty crazy. But, um, yeah, I mean, it, it's really cool. Like Mod Sun, just people that I would've never, ever thought in a million years I would be remotely even on this close to Yeah. In, in person, you know? That's wild. I'm playing the same stages and stuff as them, which is
Speaker 0 00:46:26 Really cool. So I got, so, so I gotta ask some, some Pennsylvania questions. Oh yeah. So this is a big, big one. This is like in Jersey you have the division of Taylor Ham and Pork Roll and South and North Jersey fight over Central Jersey existing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> in pa you have Wawa and you have sheets. I feel like you gotta be a Wawa girl, right? You're an Eastern pa. You're a Sheets girl. I'm
Speaker 3 00:46:45 A Sheets girl.
Speaker 0 00:46:45 I I like sheets too. There's something
Speaker 3 00:46:47 About they're
Speaker 0 00:46:47 Went through those dollar hotdogs. There's something about 'em.
Speaker 3 00:46:50 I swear. Mac and cheese bites. Oh
Speaker 0 00:46:52 Yes.
Speaker 3 00:46:53 Mac and cheese bites. Big Motts.
Speaker 0 00:46:54 Yes.
Speaker 3 00:46:55 There's nothing like it.
Speaker 0 00:46:56 You get a sheets breakfast, you're, or you get, it's late night. You're driving through, you're driving on I 81 or you're going on the Pennsylvania turnpike and you see a sheets, it's like three in the morning. It's like, fuck, I'm tired. And you know, you're gonna, you gotta, you got a clean bathroom. Clean bathroom and you, you're gonna get up there and you're gonna spend a couple minutes at the little order thing because you're like, do I want to get this? Do I want upgrade to the big tots? Don't want do this, don't want do that. I fuck with sheets, sheets, pretzels. I
Speaker 3 00:47:19 Do all
Speaker 0 00:47:20 So
Speaker 3 00:47:20 Good. I will say like the, it's like, um, the two hot dogs is always like my go-to. Yeah. Or like the, um, I used to for a while I would get like, um, like the wraps and stuff from there. But I will say, I understand the argument of Wawa, but aesthetically and just like overall experience sheets is way better. Yeah. Like hands down, you can't deny. Yeah. Like
Speaker 0 00:47:42 Covid could have started in a Wawa bathroom. Yeah. Like it's
Speaker 3 00:47:45 Nots It looks sterile.
Speaker 0 00:47:46 It's a Jersey thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:47:48 It's just, it's, I am so sorry to anybody who I love Wawa. I do. Okay. Yeah. I went to Kutztown University. We had a Wawa very near, but I, like, every time I go in there I'm like, why does this, like, it just is bland. Yeah. It's not as exciting as she,
Speaker 0 00:48:05 Yeah. So my, yeah. So my family lives in Delaware now. Okay. Um, they're, they just moved down from New York to Delaware full-time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I remember, I, I was up there with Nikki t I took him up there back in, I wanna say it was like April or March or somewhere May, all the fucking days and months playing to each other now. And we stopped at a Wawa on our way out. And it was the most chaotic experience I've had. I'm from New York. I know chaos. Yeah. Like I've, I've been to, I've also been to a Bucky's, which Bucky's is a whole nother animal. I've been to a Bucky's on a Sunday after church. Yeah. Like, not, not, I wasn't in church, but they were in church. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> coming out of it. And there's just people everywhere being at that. Um, at that fucking Wawa it was just chaos. Chaos and just chaos. People running everywhere. The folks weren't very friendly at the counter. You could tell the people, the cook, the person behind the counter was supposed to be making the hoagies. Yeah. Popped out to smoke a cigarette. Oh Lord. And backing up the line and everything. Yeah. And then, um, did you spend a lot of time going to Philly as a kid? Um,
Speaker 3 00:48:59 Not really. 'cause we, I mean, we were definitely closer. We were like kind of in the middle. Like we were, we would go to Harrisburg and like, I would go to Philly more so when I was in college, like for shows and things like that. Um,
Speaker 0 00:49:12 So you've been, you've been to the Milk Boy and t l a and all those places. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:49:15 Yeah. So we actually played t l a, um, and I was like, it was insane. Yeah. It was so cool. And Philly is always just like crazy and like that strip, it's a free for all. Like, there were people literally driving their four-wheelers downtown. <laugh>. Yeah. And like, I walked outside 'cause I had to leave early. Um, both of my band mates are also from Philly. So like, my whole, my whole camp we're all from Pennsylvania except for my tour manager. She's from Baltimore. So we're all like north, which is pretty
Speaker 0 00:49:46 Much, it's Philly. That's, that's also in Northeastern Mid-Atlantic trash. We're all cousins here. Yeah. We're all, we're all similar.
Speaker 3 00:49:51 We're all like, related some way, shape or form. Yeah. And so, um, like it, I mean even that, because I, you know, I would go and I would go see shows. I remember I went to go see like Tyler the creator in Kid Cudi. Like what a show show like that. It was wild. I mean like mean what a ticket that was. Yeah. It was very wild. And like for like a little college girl, like going to see something like that in Philly and like, not knowing anything really about it. Yeah. Other than like, I've been, I've like driven through, you know, was really wild. But like walking outside after that show, I was like, this is like a thousand times more crazy than even being at that concert.
Speaker 0 00:50:31 Yeah. Yeah. My first time, my, one of my first country shows that I got to go like, 'cause I went to a lot of shows working, working in radio mm-hmm. Where you get spoiled and you get to do a lot of cool shit. Yeah. You don't make a lot of money, but you do it for the perks. You know, you do it. It's like Michael Scott from the office. Yeah, of course. You do it for the Perks. Yep. And um, the first show that I got to go to as, as a radio guy with like a ticket hookup was mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It was Fgl L No Way. With Colt Ford and Dallas Smith opening. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it was at the Tower Theater in Upper Darby Pa. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I remember taking, we took the train in, we took the, from, we took the, the Septa or the Pat Go or one of those Uhhuh <affirmative>.
Speaker 0 00:51:02 And I remember being on, being on this train that was back when I was still drinking. I was just being drunk as fuck and being like, what is going on? Then I went to a mum's parade one time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> on New Year's, you know, you're familiar with the mums stuff? Well, when all everybody dresses up, it's like all the dude, everybody dresses up in drag, drag shows Yes. Are big in Philly. Uhhuh have the, they have the Gabe, which is the nicest part of Philly. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Philly's Dumpster Fire, but, and, and chaos. But like the, but like the Gabe Hood is like the cleanest part. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> just like in Jersey you have the Asbury Park. Yeah. Which is very, very clean and stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But yeah, Philly was just, and coming from New York, I was, I always had my thoughts, like I've never, I'm never gonna go to an Eagles game 'cause I'm a Giants fan. Yeah. But like you was a big sports person or not really? Oh,
Speaker 3 00:51:39 Am I? Am I am, um, more hockey than football. I mean, we, my boyfriend, he's a, his family's like huge like Steelers fans. Like he,
Speaker 0 00:51:48 He cool. So we'll that's Ray Rowdy. We'll send, we have a bunch of black and yellow stuff. 'cause No way. Nikki t um, founded Raise Rowdy back in Pittsburgh. No way. That's awesome. So he's a, he's a Pittsburgh guy. So we'll, we'll hook him up with some, some black and yellow stuff where we keep everything in, in Steelers pens and pirates colors.
Speaker 3 00:52:03 Did he cry when Ben Roethlisberger left too?
Speaker 0 00:52:06 I mean, yeah, he was upset. I mean, but Nick's also in his forties, so he remembers like before Roethlisberger got there, like everything he remembers like the, like the, the bill coward days and like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but yeah. And that's how I felt watching Eli Manning. It's like that whole, the era of watching football as a kid. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, all those guys are, are gone now. You don't have Peyton and Eli Manning. Yeah. It's Tom Brady's even gone now. This, this is the first year without Tom Brady in forever. Yeah. Big Ben. He was, um, he did you ever, we actually played at You ever go to Milledgeville, Georgia? You ever play there? No. So we got to play at the club where he had his controversial incident. Oh. Word. His bathroom incident. Uhhuh <affirmative>, like he crashes his motorcycle and shit. Yeah. Yeah. But Big Ben, he's a character.
Speaker 3 00:52:42 Yeah. My, my boyfriend, I've, I've never seen him cry and he cried when Ben Roth is,
Speaker 0 00:52:49 Does he have a terrible towel? Does he have one? Does the other
Speaker 3 00:52:51 Ones? He, I mean they're just like, they're diehard fans. Like, I mean, through and through. Like they, I mean even pretty much with like all of the Pittsburgh sports, they're huge Penguins fans too, which I love because I'm a Penguins fan. You are.
Speaker 0 00:53:04 Okay. I am big. So I'm glad you picked as I'm a, I'm a Rangers fan. And then what's nice about us being from the Northeast mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we can pull for our teams, but we can also pull for the Pres because they're Yeah. 'cause they're Western Conference. Uhhuh <affirmative>. So there's no conflict. They play each other twice a year. Yeah. Unless they both make it to the cup, which doesn't usually happen, but
Speaker 3 00:53:22 Like for some reason though, like, uh, I love Nashville so much, but when, whenever the penguins play here, they like treat us like we're their worst enemy. Well,
Speaker 0 00:53:35 Yeah. Go because of the, the Stanley Cup in 20, in 2018, that was the closest they've come. That was the closest a n team has come to winning a title since the Titans back in the nineties. I know. Like they would, they were there and that were So you were in Nashville at that time?
Speaker 3 00:53:49 I like, I was. I think I was, yeah. I just moved here.
Speaker 0 00:53:53 Yeah. 'cause that summer and that was the, so I moved that fall mm-hmm. <affirmative> that summer was when you had C m A Fest and the Stanley Cup at the same time. Yeah. It was wild. And then you had Bon Roo going on down the road. Uhhuh all at the same time.
Speaker 3 00:54:06 Remember? It was just chaos. I remember I was at, um, I think it was Martin's Barbecue. It was like one of the last, um, like the, one of the last playoff games between them. And it was like a, it was very close and I think it was Sidney Crosby scored and you couldn't hear a pin drop in that place. Everybody was just like so mad. And I was kind of drunk and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 0 00:54:30 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:54:30 <laugh>. Everybody just turned around and they looked at me and they're just like giving me that death glare. That's funny. Yeah. Like, you are gonna die.
Speaker 0 00:54:37 Yeah. One of my favorite stories from when I was at Whiskey Row, um, because I was a door guy, I went from being in a, in a radio station and working like five Ks and talking to soccer moms mm-hmm. <affirmative> and being like, here's the new song from Taylor Swift on Magic. 98.3. Yeah. To working the door at Whiskey Row. Uh, so I saw a lot of shit. I saw Broadway, the worst, the worst sides of people come out on Broadway. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And there was, um, a lot of teams when they come to play the Preds or come to play the Titans, they'll come in a day or two early mm-hmm. <affirmative> to go out in Nashville. Yeah. And there was one day, it was like a Monday night or a Tuesday night, and there happened to be a lot of like Canadian people in town for something.
Speaker 0 00:55:08 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I remember everybody just looking around like being like, oh shit. I was like, oh shit, who's here? And I turn around and the entire Penguins team is in Whiskey Row, <laugh>. And I remember, um, my security, my, my, our lead Jay at the time was like, Hey, so make sure nobody fucks with these guys. Like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they're, they're our guests like, treat 'em well. They're, they're good. And I remember Crosby had to go to the bathroom on the first floor. Oh wow. And I remember having to stand outside of the door to make sure none of these Canadians went in mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like freaked out him. 'cause he's like a god up there. Yeah. He's to the Canadian folks.
Speaker 3 00:55:40 I mean, he's a god to a lot of hockey fans. Even
Speaker 0 00:55:43 Here. He said the kid. Yeah. He said the kid. Yeah. He's he's the guy. He's insane. He's the guy. Um, but I remembered like wat and they were all, they were all really nice and mm-hmm. <affirmative> very like him, ma and those are some big motherfuckers. Mark Andre Floy was on the team back then. Oh my God. It was that, that golden, that golden era of the pens. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> from like, 'cause that was 20, that was like the winner going into 2019. So Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:56:02 When he went to the Knights, it was the saddest thing. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:56:05 Ever. And then he had success with the Knights. He
Speaker 3 00:56:07 Did. He did. And it was like, but it was kind of messed up how they did it. I don't know if you watched that game at all. Um, no. When they played the Penguins, it was like his, his first time back to Pittsburgh after he'd left. And um, they, like right before they started the game, they had like an ode to Flurry. Yeah. And they had like all of these like videos of him playing and he was crying. I'm like, what a way to get into somebody's head. Yeah. Like, this man didn't wanna leave. Yeah. He wanted to stay, but I mean, he, he did really, really good. I think he might be like a free agent or something now. So you're
Speaker 0 00:56:40 A big hockey fan. I am. I love that. I, I
Speaker 3 00:56:42 That's awesome. Yeah. I I do love hockey very
Speaker 0 00:56:44 Much. What are some other things that you're, like, some other like interests that people would be like, oh, I wouldn't expect Taylor Acorn to be interested in this. Like, skating makes sense. Yes. Makes sense. You look like a girl that knows how to ride a longboard. Like, um, <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:56:56 Um, I mean I, I like I'm sure a lot of people know this, I'm really into fitness. Okay. Like, I have been for a while. Track
Speaker 0 00:57:05 And field girl makes sense.
Speaker 3 00:57:06 I I ran track and field. Um, one thing that a lot of people might not know though, um, is that I body builded for a decent amount of time. Really? Like I competed. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:57:16 What was that like?
Speaker 3 00:57:18 It was weird. It was really
Speaker 0 00:57:20 Weird. That's a whole, that's a whole culture and a whole world within itself.
Speaker 3 00:57:23 It is. And um, it was really interesting because I, my brother, he also works in like the fitness industry I guess. Yeah. He, um, he does like marketing and stuff. I think he does marketing, honestly, I don't really know what his job title is, but he works for US Nutrition and they have like, um, metrics and like pure protein and all that stuff. So like he would go to the Arnold Classic a lot of the times for like his booth there. And, um, it was cool because I was working for this woman. Her name was Jan Tana. And basically she created like the OG spray tan for bodybuilders. Wow. So I like would go and that's kind of how I started getting into it. Um, I would go and I would like glaze, bodybuilders, it just like, put oil on them and it was really weird, like looking back
Speaker 0 00:58:10 On it that be, that'd be a little awkward at times. Was How old were
Speaker 3 00:58:12 You when, when you were like really weird? Um, I was probably like 21. 21. It was weird.
Speaker 0 00:58:18 Just glazing all these steroid. Just
Speaker 3 00:58:20 Glazing the steroid. Yeah. Um, and a lot of them are a lot shorter than you would think. They're <laugh>. Yeah. A lot of them are foreign too. Um, and like, so they, like, I'd be glazing them. They'd be like saying like weird things to me in like a different language. And I'm like, this is really awkward. But, um, I, and I would like work the booth for Jan too. Like I would model or whatever. And, um, I started kind of getting more into the scene. I, I knew like I'd met a lot of people, um, in that world and, you know, obviously started competing and stuff and doing all of that and training a lot. And I, you know, was at that time I was like going to get like my personal training certification and everything like that. And so that's like a weird part of my life. But I've always kept fitness. Yeah. In my life's more
Speaker 0 00:59:09 Or less I can see that. I can tell that you work out. Thank you. And that you and that you and that you run. And I've recently gotten back into it because, no, my girlfriend's really into fitness. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then my, my sister went to Scranton and got her, got her doctorate in physical therapy and everything. And she works at a physical therapy thing and does like CrossFit and does like, what is it, is it the Murf, is that the big workout thing that people do? Yeah. Like around Memorial Day or something? Yeah. It's really hard. There's all those Yeah. Like she does all that kind of shit. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and she'll go and like run a five K like that. And my brother was a track guy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so I think he's doing the, um, the Philly marathon coming up. Oh, that's cool. Because his, his girlfriend was a runner too. Mm-hmm. And she was like, yeah, I'm doing it. And um, and he, like, he was saying something to my parents about it mm-hmm. <affirmative> and was like, yeah, I'm doing it, but he won't do it with me. And he was like, oh, fuck it, I'll do it. And it's like, how can you just say, oh fuck it, I'll do it. I'll do a marathon and then go do a marathon. Like how
Speaker 3 00:59:54 That's insane. Like
Speaker 0 00:59:56 Everybody else's, every other sports punishment is running. Yeah. And that's what your sport was.
Speaker 3 01:00:01 It literally was
Speaker 0 01:00:02 Were were you distanced or were you like short? I was short distance or what? The
Speaker 3 01:00:06 Furthest I would run was like a 400 meter. Okay. Um, I, like in high school it was weird. I was like one of those, um, <laugh> sounds like so cocky to say. I was like one of those like athletes that they would kind of stick in whatever event if they wanted points. Yeah. Um, but I had done track pretty much my whole life. Like my dad was a really like, really good track athlete and he got me in it when I was really, really young. Like, I started when I was like six years old. Wow. Um, and we would do like, um, it was club track, so we would go at this time, like I, we had lived in Seattle, like a suburb of Seattle when I was like young until I was like 11. Um, and we would go and we would do like, meets in like Seattle and we'd do kind of like all over like Tacoma and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 01:00:55 And um, so I started when I was really, really young. And so I kind of like going into high school, I kind of like knew how to do everything and like obviously being from such a small town, like they don't take it as seriously there as like they would in, in like the club track that I was in previous to. Yeah. And, um, I don't know, it was, yeah. I, I kind of did a little bit of everything. I did like the 100, 204 by four, four by four was like a big thing. Yeah. Um, for me. And then four by one also. And then, um, my events were usually like the one, the two. And then my senior year I started doing 300 hurdles and I found out that like I was really good at those <laugh>
Speaker 0 01:01:38 You Yeah. You're tall. Yeah. You can jump <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:01:40 And um, so that year I went to, um, I had honestly, it was kind of funny 'cause I had never done them before and my coach put me in them because it was either I did that or I ran the 400. And at the time my cousin being in a small town, you go to school with all of your cousins. Yeah. And your si like everyone. Yeah. And, um, my cousin was really, really good at the 400. And obviously you have some like family rivalry there. Yeah. And I did not wanna lose. And I knew that she would've beat me if I would've done the open for, so I, um, I decided to do the 300 hurdles and they put me in a heat. I'll never forget, it's, it was like at our league meet and it was like all of the schools that we would race all year round were in one meet together. And, um, <laugh>, they put me in a meet in a heat with one other girl and I ended up winning like the whole thing. Like I'd be Oh,
Speaker 0 01:02:34 Was like girls and guys. No, I
Speaker 3 01:02:35 Mean it was just girls. Like for the girls, they put me in with one other girl 'cause they didn't know like what my time was. I ended up winning. I, I qualified for districts and then districts I ended up getting first and then I went to States and I got third. No shit. And I was like, I wish I would've been doing this my whole like four years of high school. Like that would've been really dope. But, um, when I went to college, obviously I um, I kind of did like, still did like the four by four, still did like those races and things like that. Yeah. But, um, they put me in the pentathlon and the heptathlon. Ooh. Which was a lot. Yeah. And then I did the 400 hurdles.
Speaker 0 01:03:10 Yeah. Did you ever go to the, the place in New York City where the, they have the really high like embankments, uh, is it the Armory? I forget what they call it. The Armory. Is it the Armory or something? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Some of my brother used to have to go and do that all the time.
Speaker 3 01:03:22 No, I never got to do
Speaker 0 01:03:23 That. Like the indoor track stuff where it's like the running and they have like the Oh yeah. Like
Speaker 3 01:03:26 Goes
Speaker 0 01:03:26 Up and stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. It's
Speaker 3 01:03:28 A whole nother fucking world. That's insane. Like how
Speaker 0 01:03:29 Do people do this? Um, so what do you got coming up as far as music? So your last release was back in April mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you've been just running all over the fuck mm-hmm. All over the road. You've got the headlining tour coming up in the fall. Yep. What do we got as far as, as far as music coming? 'cause I know you, I know as a, like knowing you now mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the writing doesn't stop. The creativity doesn't stop the thinking about songs in your head and being like, I wanna record this. I wanna put this out. I want, or I want to tease this on. Yeah. Social. It's like that doesn't stop. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I'm sure you got something cooking in the kitchen.
Speaker 3 01:03:56 I do. Um, so I've a I have a really cool feature coming out, um, this next month in August. Hell yeah. Um, it's, it's really cool. I think it's really cool. I, I hope that other people think it's really cool too. Um, I have that coming out and then I have finished writing an album.
Speaker 0 01:04:20 Let's go.
Speaker 3 01:04:21 Yes. That's
Speaker 0 01:04:22 Fucking awesome. Albums are not easy, but they're so much fun when you get to have a whole group of songs together.
Speaker 3 01:04:26 Yeah. And I mean I, you know, obviously it's been a really long time since I put out like a full project of just my own stuff. Like literally since 2017 since then, it's been like singles and then I've done like, you know, like a cover. I did like a cover ep, things like that. Um, and so this is like the first time where I have like a group of songs that I'm just like so proud of and I'm really excited for people to hear them. And it's like, I, it's, it's me and I finally found my sound and it's fun and it's depressing and it's like all of the emotions and just one project and it's hopefully gonna come out in September. <laugh>. Hell
Speaker 0 01:05:11 Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Breaking news. That's awesome. Breaking news.
Speaker 3 01:05:14 Yeah.
Speaker 0 01:05:14 Super, super excited for you. Yeah. I really, I really appreciate you coming on and hanging and
Speaker 3 01:05:18 No, thank you so much for having
Speaker 0 01:05:20 Me. And I, and I figured we'd get along you being a pa being a pa girl and, and a rock, a rocker, a rocking country chick who does a little bit of both and and all that. And we actually do in the, um, I know we'll be busy in the fall. We're gonna be doing, so we do our a butt rock night. I love
Speaker 3 01:05:35 That.
Speaker 0 01:05:35 At Live Oak. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, do you know, do you know Mikey Yer and Dean Purto or any of those guys? They used to be on the road with Tyler Braden. They play downtown all the time. Or like Jamie Kza or any of those dudes.
Speaker 3 01:05:45 I'll be honest, I am like the worst Nashville ever because I like know no one.
Speaker 0 01:05:50 Okay. So we have some buddies that all came up out of, and funny enough, Mikey's from Pittsburgh. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Dean is from Connecticut. So there're other Northeastern guys and forget where, I forget where Jamie's from, but they're All Rock guys. So what we do, and it started as a, as a, as an idea when we were all really high going down to Key West, we had a layover, layover in Atlanta. We were like, why don't we do a butt rock night? Like, why don't we just do a, a night of where it's like, so we have a, they play in the house band. Mm-hmm. And then we have artists hop up and sing butt rock songs. So it's like Creed, limp, Bizkit, everybody just sings wants, it's like the emo nights that they do at places we
Speaker 3 01:06:24 Know
Speaker 0 01:06:25 <laugh>. So that's what I'm saying. It's like, do you sing like, like do you get up there and, and just do that. So we'll let you know when the head isn't. If you're in town you want to do it. It's at Live Oak dude. So it's just you hop up and you rock out and the whole night, like we had Austin Snell do it, we've had Ella Langley, Josh Ross, like a bunch All Country kind of
Speaker 3 01:06:40 Likes Emo night,
Speaker 0 01:06:41 Like an emo night. But it's nothing. We call it nothing but black but Rock. Okay. So like I have a Nickelback, I'd be down, I have a Nickelback hockey jersey that I wear for it. Like we go all and do Dean and Mikey wear, like, they have like the um, like they, they look like they're mannequins at Hot Topic. I love that. Like, they have like CDs hanging off the chain wallet. Like he had like a Creed CD hanging off a chain wallet and he's wearing like the dark, like Django jeans and like all that shit. Oh my gosh. So we're, we're big into all that stuff and love what you do and much very excited for, for the music to come. Much thank we love spinning the shit outta the music that you got out. Where do people go to find you on all the, all the socials and website and all that shit?
Speaker 3 01:07:14 Where can you find me? Yeah,
Speaker 0 01:07:15 Where can you find, where, where can we find you? Aside from sitting radio on the couch now? <laugh>.
Speaker 3 01:07:19 Um, maybe like hiding behind Tree outside or No, I'm just, um, no, um, you can catch me on TikTok at Taylor Acorn one because they won't let me have my actual name. Really?
Speaker 0 01:07:31 TikTok, we gotta fix that. We gotta fix that. She's been huge for your algorithm and huge artist coming out on the platform. Give give the girl her name. Come on.
Speaker 3 01:07:40 It's so, yeah. Gimme my name. Come on. No, um, it's actually been kind of funny 'cause like it's just been like a running joke from, from like, when I started I was like, they won't give me my name. I don't know why. Um, but yeah, you can catch me on TikTok. Um, keep up with me on Spotify, just Taylor Acorn, uh, YouTube, all that good stuff. Do you tweet Apple musics? I do, I do tweet.
Speaker 0 01:08:02 Do do you thread
Speaker 3 01:08:04 Some would say Yeah, I attempt. Yeah.
Speaker 0 01:08:07 Threats is different but I'm not, it's weird. It's different.
Speaker 3 01:08:09 It's like, I feel like,
Speaker 0 01:08:10 And I guess Twitter's not even Twitter anymore. It's x I
Speaker 3 01:08:13 Just noticed that
Speaker 0 01:08:13 Today. Elon Elon's doing some crazy shit.
Speaker 3 01:08:16 I just noticed that today. I was like, what? Can I swear my line? Yeah, you can swear.
Speaker 0 01:08:19 You can say whatever you want. I was like, what
Speaker 3 01:08:20 The fuck is X? Yeah, I was like, I didn't download this. And then I clicked on it and it was Twitter. Like it was like the whole Twitter format.
Speaker 0 01:08:26 It sounds dirty. It's, what is that? It sounds like a dirty app, but it's just Twitter.
Speaker 3 01:08:30 I mean it is. Yeah. Like
Speaker 0 01:08:31 Where's the little bird?
Speaker 3 01:08:33 I know the Twitter community that I have is, they're like, they're, they're pretty unhinged and so I like on there I I feel like I can be like my full self. That's true. Perhaps I'm still like, I don't know because iRead the water there, like,
Speaker 0 01:08:48 Because it feels like your Instagram audience on there, which your Instagram audience and your Twitter audience, which are both different from your TikTok audience. Yeah. Like every app's a little bit different.
Speaker 3 01:08:56 Yeah. And I mean I, I try to like be as authentic as possible on, on Instagram and stuff, but obviously like, I mean it, it's hard because a lot of the times you show like your best highlights of your life. Yeah. And on Twitter I'll be like, I mean I'll just say whatever, you know. Did you tweet today Comes to my mind? No, I did like, I literally, right before I came on here, I clicked on the X thing because I was like, what the fuck is this <laugh>? But now I know it's Twitter and
Speaker 0 01:09:24 I'm We will follow, we will follow you on, I might tweet something. Yeah, we about this. About this or about X or like what is this? Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:09:31 What is this?
Speaker 0 01:09:32 That's awesome. Well I really appreciate you coming on and happy to have you as a part of our outside the round raised, rowdy family. Always good to,
Speaker 3 01:09:39 Happy to be here. Very happy to be here. Thank you so much for asking me to join.
Speaker 0 01:09:42 Awesome. Well guys, be sure to check out our girl Taylor Acorn. Uh, be sure to go check out her dates in the fall. She can be coming to a city near you and got some new music coming so you'll be sure to follow her on all the socials. Also be sure to check out our friends of course, from big friendly productions, whale Tail Media, Saxon Studios and our boy Mitch Wallace with the Digital Marketing agency. You wanna know more about us and what we do here at Outside the Round. Visit raised rowdy.com. Pro girl Taylor for Old Sweet Boy behind the camera. I'm Matt Burrell and this has been outside the Round.
Speaker 4 01:10:14 Come on. I ain't never been to one place for too long. I ain't never been the best at say I love you two. A girl I love only got a couple tricks of my sleeve. They usually just make them leave. So if you know me,
Speaker 1 01:10:51 If
Speaker 4 01:10:51 You really know me, you know, I'm just a two trick on it. Maybe the and the lack of money for show, I'm just a two trick on.
