Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill for Rage Rowdy Podcast.
What's going on, girls? And guys? How we doing? Welcome back to Outside the Round with me, Matt Burrill, a raised Rowdy podcast. Quick shout out to our friends from Surfside. No bubbles, no troubles. And today, a very special guest, a young buck who I've been jamming to here recently. He's been putting out some great songs. He's from the great state of Florida, knows a thing or two about being out on those charter boats. It's my boy, Madden Metcalf. Bubba, how you doing?
[00:00:44] Speaker C: Doing great. I'm happy to be here this morning, dude.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: I'm happy to have you, man. And coming. Coming from Florida, it was nice and warm, and then we got. We had the crazy weather here the other day, and now it's back down to chill again.
[00:00:55] Speaker C: Yeah, man. I mean, I spent a couple weeks in Nashville when it was real cold and there was ice on the ground and everything, and I was so happy to be back in Florida. And it warmed up about 80 degrees. Yeah. And I woke up this morning, it's back to cold, and I'm like, oh, my God.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: Yeah, man. How long you been coming up here now?
[00:01:12] Speaker C: I made my first official trip to Nashville in May of 24. May of 25? Yeah.
[00:01:20] Speaker A: So not even a year ago, Right? And you've got all this stuff happening right now, man.
[00:01:25] Speaker C: It's insane.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: It is, man.
[00:01:27] Speaker C: It's crazy.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: It's wild, dude. I mean, I Don't Want to Cry Anymore is a song that I listen to regularly. Like, you've. You're just. You're putting out some great stuff, dude. You're killing it, dude.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: Thank you. I'm stoked about what's to come and the, you know, the future from here. Just. Just working.
[00:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, man. So I guess take me back to growing up along the coast, kind of the. The forgotten coast of Florida down there.
[00:01:48] Speaker C: The forgotten coast is a place that, you know folks, especially from the upper Southeast, like Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, it's all like a spring break kind of thing. You know, they come to Destin or Panama City beach, and if they're real lovers of the forgotten coast, they're going to, like, St. George. Yeah. And so, like, growing up along that area is just for me to live there. I never understood how other folks thought of it until I come up here and they're all talking about, oh, I love Destin so much, and I love PCB so much. And I'm like, it's just home for me. It's all I ever knew. And so realizing that not everybody grew up fishing on the coast or even hunting on the coast, you know, duck hunting on the coast is. It's super cool. And seeing everybody's, you know, enthusiasm about talking about Florida is just awesome.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Yeah, man. That's kind of how I feel. I've been down here in Nashville for about eight years now, but I grew up about 30 minutes outside New York City. And it's like, growing up, I just took it all for granted at what I had access to. So you talk about being from a vacation destination, you just kind of take it for granted. Like, life is just being able to go out on boats and enjoy beautiful weather and enjoy some of the best seas seafood in the world, bro.
[00:03:11] Speaker C: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I'm fourth generation commercial fisherman. Wow.
So growing up with that, one of my dad's best friends.
For now, we'll just call him uncle.
I was. I was going, you know, working at his restaurant for a while. I was like, off the record. 14. Yeah. And there's no child labor laws. Whenever it's your dad's best friend, you're
[00:03:34] Speaker A: working for family business, bro. I worked in my family business from the time I was like, 10 or 11. So I gotcha.
[00:03:39] Speaker C: And my dad started working for his dad at the same age I started working for him.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:45] Speaker C: And so one thing led to another, and I'm like, hey, is there any way I could just go out front and play guitar? Play the same songs, like, over and over and over again? He's like, absolutely. But when we close the restaurant down, you better bring your ass back in this kitchen so we can clean it up. And I'm like, yes, sir. So I got there and I played the same 10. It was like, Hank Junior. Some Riley Green and. Yeah, maybe some Jimmy Buffett, Kenny Chesney. It's just Florida vibes. Yeah. And I played those same 10 songs. I made like 40 or 50 bucks. And I thought I was like. I was like, I'm never going back to the kitchen ever again.
And I went back to the kitchen and cleaned up and, you know, a few months later, started working on the crab boat and commercial fishing. And just really, that's when I started getting to understand what I can write about. Like they say, write what you know. And working out there and just busting your tail every day, there's nothing better for me to write about than just like, the best thing about being out there is you can't think about what's going on back home. You Got to think about reeling in this fish or, you know, pulling the next crab trap or throwing out the next crab trap. So, you know, I love it.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah, man. It's a work ethic and a grind that's needed to succeed in music with getting songs out there, spending time in the studio, writing songs, all the meetings with the team, all that, it takes a lot of work ethic. So to have those skills from being out on the boat, being out on the water with the family, man, that's obviously translated pretty well, I'm sure, for you.
[00:05:18] Speaker C: It's. It's.
I like to say I know what I could be doing right now.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:23] Speaker C: Sitting right here at Ray's reality.
[00:05:25] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Absolutely. So when did the ball really start rolling for you? Been coming up here less than a year now. So kind of take me through the journey of what led you to coming up here and really being able to. To be the guy that's got songs out there that people are listening to.
[00:05:41] Speaker C: I mean, my dad has always played guitar, and music was always so big for us, but I always. I never understood. It's the same thing. Like, being from Florida, I never understood how big it was to us until I started hanging out with folks that didn't listen to music as much as we did.
And I asked him, I'm like, why do you listen to, you know, Johnny Cash so much? And he's like, well, it's not even about Johnny Cash. It's, you know, I understand there's a story, and I'm being told a story.
And I was like, okay. So he said, if you can't tell a story from a song, don't listen to it.
I was like, yes, sir. So that was probably 10 years old. And I just tried to take a story from everything I heard, and I just fell in love with the storytelling of country music.
And one thing led to another.
In 2018, my dad and Riley Green had a mutual buddy. We went backstage. Riley played at Florida State. And I saw Riley playing on stage, and just this crowd of people, he's just entertaining, you know, a couple thousand people. I told my dad, I was like, I want to learn how to play the guitar.
He taught me. And I thought he was gonna kill me. I mean, because I didn't, you know, I wanted to play all the easy stuff, and he's trying to teach me, you know, exactly how to do it right. And I was 13.
And finally, after a little bit of practicing and falling in love with it, I started to be a little bit better than he was. And I started writing songs, you know, my freshman year of high school, and I was going off to college, and I asked my dad, I said, Look, I got three Division 3 scholarship offers to go play football right now.
My dad played college football, you know, high school football. He was my high school football coach.
[00:07:29] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Coaches. So that's a whole other dynamic.
[00:07:31] Speaker C: Yeah. And I always like to say my dad was a coach, but I was never a coach's son, like, if that makes sense. Yeah. And I just went up to him and I said, look, dad, you play college football.
I got three Division 3 offers from 14 hours away, upper North Carolina.
Are you going to be mad with me if I turn down these scholarships to go pursue music? And he's like, no. And I'm like, dad, are you sure? Yeah. And he's like, I promise you I won't be mad if you go pursue music. And I walked in my room and thought about it for a little bit. I'm like, no way. He's being for real. I walked back out there, I said, dad, this last time I'm asking, are you sure you're not going to be mad with me? He said, son, I don't have two hip replacements and a shoulder replacement because I played guitar in college.
That was my answer from then on.
And so I went to Gulf Coast State College and got halfway through my first semester, and this guy Freddie Wexler, 10, texted me on Instagram and I saw the blue check mark and I was like, I don't know who Freddie Wexler is. Yeah. And I was like, this is definitely a scam. Right? And I chat GPT him because I had it pulled up for Economics.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Ask the robots, man. Ask the robots.
[00:08:47] Speaker C: And ChatGPT told me everything I needed to know. And a few days later, Freddie called me. He's like, look, you can come out to LA this weekend or I can come to Florida in a couple weeks because I got kids and stuff. I'm like, I'll see you this weekend. Yeah. So went out and there was just a chemistry and recording and writing and the whole nine yards. It was something great that we both felt.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:15] Speaker C: And a few months later, signed with him and within a year, just written a million songs and signed with mca, you know, early this year. Yeah, just. It's been crazy what we've accomplished together in the last year.
[00:09:33] Speaker A: Yeah, man. And it's really just getting started. I want to go back to you asking your dad that question, and I think, like, part of what even, like, for me, with moving down Here from New York. I moved down here when I was 23 and really took a chance. Didn't know a lot of people down here. My parents were like, go for it. You know, like, having parents that. That champion you and are like, hey, go do your thing. Like, that is such a huge thing to have. So for your dad to say, I'm not going to be mad if you turn down the scholarship and don't follow my footsteps here, but you do what you want to do, man. Like, you wouldn't be where you're at today without that moment.
[00:10:06] Speaker C: Absolutely. He's.
It's. It's really cool that I can send him. Hey, this is a demo of a song we wrote today. And by the time I get back, he works in my uncle's restaurant on Friday, Saturday nights, and he, you know, char. Char grills and does all the snapper and the whole char grill and stuff.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: Getting me hungry over here. Talking about that.
[00:10:29] Speaker C: Yeah. And he runs. He's on ox. He runs the Bluetooth.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:10:33] Speaker C: And so he's playing all these songs I've written for all my buddies in the kitchen. And by the time I get back, they're like, man, I wrote this song two weeks ago. And they're like, man, I love that song. That's the best one you've. And I'm like, how do you know that? And they're like, oh, your dad's played everything.
[00:10:48] Speaker A: And I'm like, that's awesome.
[00:10:50] Speaker C: But it's. It's cool to go back and, you know, see what they like and hear how much support I have back home.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah, man. I mean, it. It takes. The hometown thing is special. And a song that I love that you put out, like, my hometown. Talk about that a little bit. Because you're somebody that is a proud Floridian, and that's always going to be something that's in you, man.
[00:11:11] Speaker C: Absolutely. And it's so overlooked in the country world. Like, Florida and country folks usually don't put together. And I went out to LA one of my first times out there, and somebody said, if you're from Florida, why do you talk like that? And I was like, I'm not from your Florida. I'm from my Florida. I'm from North Florida. You're thinking Orlando, Miami. I'm talking about, you know, what color county, and that is something nobody ever thought of. And they're like, so what do you mean, north Florida? I'm like, look, you're in Florida until you're in Orlando and everything. South. That is South Florida. Yeah. And we're basically an extension of South Georgia. South Alabama. Yeah, In North Florida. But like my hometown, we just had this idea of, you know, you get to know somebody so well, and you can know people well all the time, but every now and then you get a chance to know somebody just like you do your hometown. You know, every beauty mark, every freckle, the good, the bad, the ugly.
And we thought there was something really special about being able to know somebody the same way you do your hometown.
And that comparison is just spot on for falling in love with somebody or just knowing them in general.
So it was really special to be able to, you know, relate those two things and bring out the hometown in my music.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Florida is a state, like you said, that gets overlooked with country music. I mean, you talk about the history of folks that are from down there, like Brian Kelly from Florida, Georgia Line, Jake Owen, John Anderson singing about the Seminole Wind. Like, there's. There's so much history of Greg. I mean, and even the Southern rock stuff, like the Skinners, the Molly Hatchets, the Outlaws. Like, there's so many people that come from the North Florida, whether it's out towards the Panhandle or it's up there in Duvall, you know, like, it's such a musical state. I think a huge part of that is you guys have so many opportunities to play. You talk about your uncle's restaurant. I think of places like the Florabama. You know, I think of all those bars like the Salty Goat that's in Panama City. Yeah, man. And like the.
[00:13:18] Speaker C: The.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: The locals that are down there and the tourists, they love live music. Like, you're in an environment where you grow up listening to bands play versus DJs. The DJ thing is like a South Florida thing, right? You know?
[00:13:30] Speaker C: Exactly. Yeah. I mean, all up and down the Forgotten Coast. You're not going to pass many places without live music. Yeah. And it's. It's such a cool thing because I've been able to see cover bands entertain. Like, they're the headliners of Gulf Coast Jam.
[00:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:47] Speaker C: Like, and it's just a Friday night in St. Mark's or a Friday night in Panacea. And these cover bands are doing the same thing that Wallen's doing for just, you know, 5% of the people. Yeah, but it's. It's really cool to be able to take notes from folks who have been doing it and doing the.
The road thing for a really long time.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Because there are so many cover bands that do that road Thing or play at like at. At Flounders down there. That's another spot that I remember. My buddy Trey Lewis used to play it all the time doing cover gigs and like there. It is such a part of the culture. I mean the Flora Bama is an institution. Institution that we've gotten to be lucky enough to do some events with. Raised rowdy down at. But it's like live music is just so championed and there are so many like guys that. Guys or girls that make livings just being full time musicians.
[00:14:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Living down there in Florida because you have the opportunity to play shows all year round.
[00:14:43] Speaker C: Exactly. I mean it's. It's something I'm so grateful for and going to other places. The only place you see something like that is here in town.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:52] Speaker C: In Nashville is the only place you see that has as much live music as 38, you know, Destin, Panama City Beach. Panama City.
Like you don't see that anywhere else besides here in town.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: And everybody's good down there too. Yeah, there are. People are solid and like live music thing.
[00:15:12] Speaker C: When I moved to Panama City to go to college, I was trying to book my own shows and I wasn't with Freddie yet.
And they. All these bars have such talented bands that it's like so hard from the outside to move in and try to book these shows. Yeah. And it's like even if. If they hear me, I send them videos. It's like their schedule is booked for the next year.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Well, they know who draws. They know there's a band that's been playing there for. For a decade or two. And they know every Friday night they have them at the Salty Goat or wherever. They're gonna get the same 50 to 75 people and that's gonna pack that bar out.
[00:15:49] Speaker C: Yeah. A body man play plays with Danny and the Chicks. They're fantastic. That dude shreds and can sing too. My uncle that was like lead for praise and worship at his church introduced me to him. He's like, you should go over there and write and play guitar with him. And I went and played with him, saw and play and they would let me play a few songs just to try to start booking shows. And that guy shreds and I mean they're talented artists. Like they may be playing cover. Cover shows and only cover shows, but the things that they're doing with those songs to make them theirs and really entertain a crowd.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: It's those medleys, bro. When they get into their medley and mix like some heaters together, man, like there's Some. That's the thing too, is, like, you. You got connected with Freddy and got eyes on you through social media and posting videos in your small town. But there's a lot of guys and girls that'll blow up, but don't have the experience of playing in front of people. They play in front of a phone. The right industry people see them, and then they get thrown on tour, but they don't know how to be on a stage.
[00:16:53] Speaker C: Right.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: You've been watching people on stage your whole life. You've gotten the opportunity to try to win over a room of people that are eating seafood at a restaurant, you know? So I feel like that experience is going to help you so much when you get out there on tour doing the damn thing.
[00:17:07] Speaker C: It's, you know, my. One of the best pieces of advice I could have ever asked for. My dad said, whether you're playing for 10 people or 10,000 people, you play the exact same way. Yeah. And so playing these waterfront restaurants where folks are just there to eat until maybe 9:30, when I got 30 minutes left in my show, and then they start drinking. It's really rough to sit up there and be like, I'm background noise right now.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:35] Speaker C: But if you can find a way to stand out in those restaurants, then you can find a way to stand out in any other crowd in the world.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah, bro.
[00:17:44] Speaker C: Absolutely. Folks are worried about one thing, and it's eating. They're not worried about music. If. If they were playing Jimmy Buffett over the speakers, they'd feel the same way. Unless you really try to stand out.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Speaking of eating, what's your go to seafood?
[00:17:58] Speaker C: So at the restaurant in Panacea, we have this thing that I invented at 14.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: You invented it, all right. You're the creator.
[00:18:05] Speaker C: So I was like. I was like, I want Yum Yum squid. We have, like, our signature Yum Yum sauce. And they say calamari. Sorry, Calamari. Yum yum calamari. And I was like, but I want. I want some shrimp. Maybe some fried oysters too. So we just threw a bunch of stuff together. And my uncle owns a restaurant. He's Greek, and so we called it Greek goulash.
And we just threw all this stuff together and just smothered it in Yum Yum sauce.
Cannot be.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: I mean, the Greeks know how to cook. I gotta. I got a cousin whose family's from, like, Cyprus, like one of the islands off of Greece, and they have a chain of diners along the Jersey shore. We're like, those 24 hour diners. You can get whatever you want. The menu's like the size of the Bible. Like, it's just endless options. The Greeks know how to do it, man. They know the restaurant game.
[00:18:56] Speaker C: It's. Why. Have you ever been to Captain Anderson's and Panama City Beach?
[00:19:00] Speaker A: I don't think so.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: It's same family, same Greek family. And their.
Their way of cooking is the exact same. I don't understand it. They do Greek style everything. And it's like Cavender's Greek seasoning shout out.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, you could put lamb with anything, bro. And it's just unbelievable. You get into those, like, kebabs. You got old taziki in there.
[00:19:20] Speaker C: What are they calling the. The they. It's spelled G Y R O. Hero.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: I've heard people say I grew up saying gyros, but then I was corrected to say euros. But I still say gyros sometimes.
Depends on the day where I say. I don't see as many of them down here. There's. There's a couple random, like, random food trucks in midtown where they sell them and stuff. But, like, up in New York, they're everywhere, bro. I bet they're everywhere, man.
Talk about your first. Your first impressions of Nashville when you started coming up here, because it's a very different place than where you grew up.
[00:19:52] Speaker C: So my first ever trip to Nashville, my mom said, hey, look, your sister's moving to Pigeon Forge.
If you help me move her to Pigeon Forge and you don't complain or nothing, I'll take you to Nashville on the way home.
I'm like, yes, ma'.
[00:20:07] Speaker A: Am.
[00:20:07] Speaker C: Absolutely anything. Because at this point, I had started writing a little bit and, you know, this was the when it rains at poor seven summers era.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:17] Speaker C: And so I didn't complain at all. I, you know, unloaded every piece of furniture and drove the U Haul. Did all the things through all those
[00:20:28] Speaker A: hills out there in Pigeon Forge. Beautiful out there, too.
[00:20:30] Speaker C: I was excited.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:32] Speaker C: And so we get my sister all moved in and Pigeon Forge, she's going to, like, work at Dollywood because she's. She's like a theater girl and she wanted to get her foot in the door of, like, doing theater and performing arts, that kind of thing.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:20:45] Speaker C: So we're on the way back and I'm like, mom, we're going to Nashville. Right? She's like, we're going to Nashville.
And we booked this Airbnb and it's just. It's a Wallen style Airbnb and it's
[00:20:57] Speaker A: just had all these themed Airbnb.
[00:21:00] Speaker C: I'm like. It had Wallen pictures all over the world.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: Wow. I'm like a bachelorette party's dream.
[00:21:07] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm like, what are we doing here? And we get out of the.
I'll leave that out. We got out of the car, and I look on the ground and there's some obscene things. But, yeah, it's exactly what you would think was at a wall in style Airbnb.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: And you're there with your mom and.
[00:21:26] Speaker C: And. And her, like, her retired. Her friend who had just retired from working with her.
Love her to death. Yeah. Call her Aunt Mary.
But she was just a good of a time as my mom was. Yeah. And so we go to Tequila Cowboy. It's like four o' clock in the afternoon, and I'm just looking around everywhere, and I'm like, oh, my God, this is heaven. Like, this is exactly what I. What I imagined. And there's just beautiful girls everywhere. And I'm like, all right, let me explore a little bit. Mom, stay here. I'm gonna go explore.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: You enjoy your girls trip. With Aunt Mary.
[00:22:03] Speaker C: Yeah, with Aunt Mary. And I realized that Tequila Cowboy connected to what used to be Wannabe's karaoke bar.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Yeah, bro, it was. It's a whole maze in there.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: I was like, okay, Mom's never going to find out that I'm at Wannabes. And I went in there, put my name on the karaoke list, and just told everybody I had my Taylor County High School hat on. It said tc. And I was like, oh, this is just technical college. You know, I just graduated. I'm a welder. I'm 22. Yeah. I'm like, 16. Like, I convinced a couple groups of girls to buy me water on the rocks. Yeah.
And I got my name on the list, and it turned 7 or 8 when they started checking IDs. And I just kept my head down.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:50] Speaker C: And I finally got up on the stage and I sang when it rains, it pours, and just put on a show. And the place went crazy. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm living the dream right now. Yeah. And I put Seven Summers down, and at this point, the list was, like, an hour long. Yeah. So I got Aunt Mary and my mom and my sister to come into Wannabes. And when I sang Seven Summers, I was just like, there's like, ten girls that came up on stage. And I was like, I'm 16. I'm in Nashville.
I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. That was my first impression of Nashville.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:23:28] Speaker C: And I was like, I got to come back.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Legendary shit right there, bro.
[00:23:32] Speaker C: And I didn't come back until it was, like, an official Nashville trip for riding. And thank God. God knows what would have happened if I'd have come back before then.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: Yeah, if you had moved up before you were ready.
Well, dude, what a moment.
[00:23:47] Speaker C: God's plan, baby.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: Dude, I mean, I'd say so. That's incredible, man. Yeah. And TC now isn't even there now. It's. I believe that's Posties, right?
I think Post Malone's is under Aldean's now. I think they rebranded it, so now it's like it's Posties and then Aldean's, and then you have Luke Bryan's.
[00:24:06] Speaker C: Wannabes isn't even there.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: Wannabes isn't even there. Yeah, man. You got to experience OG Semi. OG Broadway, dude. Because when I first moved to town, I was a door guy at Whiskey Row, so I would have been one of those bouncers that would have been giving you a second look back in the day, you know, and. Yeah, man, that. That you were talking about how it's like, how they all connect to each other.
And it used to be, like, a trick when there'd be, like, the long lines. Because I remember when Aldean's first opened, when they built that thing, man. Like, been in town a minute now, and it was like, if there was a line to get into Aldean's, you could go in through the Wannabe side, or you could go in through the Sun Diner side. And there were, like, all these little alleyways within the building. So you could go into the diner, act like you're getting a table, then sneak through the employee thing and end up in Aldean's and cut the line.
That was that old, like, being up just working on the street, you learn all this stuff. Yeah. Behind the scenes, man. 2018, Nashville stuff, you know, OG OG.
[00:25:05] Speaker C: OG stuff.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: OG stuff, man.
How did that compare to your first trip out to Los Angeles with Freddie?
[00:25:13] Speaker C: Different world, I like to say. I told Freddy, like, the second day in la, I'm like, look, dude, I felt more in my element in the Dominican Republic than I did in Los Angeles. Yeah, it's just like.
Because Dr. Is more like Florida than LA is.
It was crazy. I mean, it's a culture shock. And I.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: A lot of people.
[00:25:35] Speaker C: So many people. And the traffic. I'm. I. I'm going back to my Airbnb. It's like eight miles away, and it's like 50 minutes.
I'm like, what is going on? I can go 15 miles in 15 minutes at home. Yeah. I didn't understand it. It's. It was crazy. It's culture shock.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:52] Speaker C: But I told them it'd be the same way when they come to Wakala county and see how we live out there.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: Have they been down there to see you?
[00:25:58] Speaker C: We. We've had some, like, some. Some of the media folks come come down and they loved it. I'm really excited for Freddie and them to. To get their first taste of fishing.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: And I can't wait for you to write a hit with Freddie out on the beach.
[00:26:13] Speaker C: Really? I mean, St. George Island. Yeah, I've written some songs on St. George island about some bad decisions.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a place to do it.
[00:26:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a place to do it.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: For sure, man. For sure. So what I love about your. Your sound, man, is it's like, it's such a. It's such a thing that I think everybody's craving where it's like, it's got some up tempo, like, sing along. Like, I was talking with the team and it's like, I don't want to cry anymore. Just plays in my head. Plays in their head over and over and over again, man. Where it's like, where are you coming up with these melodies? And kind of take me through the process with working with Freddie and the folks that you are.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: It's. It's really cool because I had an image in my head about where I wanted to be in 10 years or less.
And Freddie helped me sharpen the image of where I want to be in six months and being able to write with a melodic genius. Yeah, there's no denying that. And just see that going to country music, it's like I used to hate the songs. I. I didn't want to hear myself, like. And then we started, you know, putting out what's going to be on the ep.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:26] Speaker C: And now I'm starting to enjoy, you know, what we're writing. And it's. It's a crazy thing to see the difference between what I used to write, what I'm writing now, and just sharpening the craft and the production and everything between Freddy and Paul Sykes.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: Oh, Paul's a G, man. He's been playing our writers nights for years, man. It's been awesome watching what he's done, man.
[00:27:51] Speaker C: He's been producing.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: He's a beast.
[00:27:53] Speaker C: Yeah. He's so, like going over there and writing something and the next day he has this radio Ready track. And I'm like, dude, this is crazy. How did you do this? And he's like, I don't know. I'm like, dude, yeah, he's a G. So see, getting them to come together and really get the.
I don't want to say it's not poppy at all, but just the almost. You know, Freddie worked with Billy Joel. Almost. That Billy Joel style of flowiness, bro.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: It's stuff that I want to sit on a boat and listen to.
[00:28:28] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: It's perfectly reflective of where you're from. Thank you. It's gonna. Like, to me, like, all the kids going out on spring break right now, like, it's a song that needs to be on the getting ready to go out playlist. Like, it is. It is spring break. Kind of like, it is awesome.
[00:28:43] Speaker C: I hope so. I mean, with my debut EP, Saltwater Southern.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: Coming out March 20th, I'm super excited for. You know, I was super strategic about.
This is spring break time. This is when everybody's gonna start going to the beach again, and I want them to be listening to Saltwater Southern.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Yeah. What is Saltwater Southern to you? Like, I love that. I love that phrase, and I think I know what it means, but tell me what Saltwater Southern means to you.
[00:29:10] Speaker C: We had this predicament we were in that I was like, this is super me. Like, all these songs are.
It's really hard to think about anybody else putting them out. You know, it'd be cool, but it wouldn't mean as much not being from Florida and just the slow way of living. And like we said earlier, it's so overlooked with the accents and the southern way of life. Because you're from Florida. I'm like, 20 miles or 50 miles south of Georgia. So, like. Yeah. And we had a couple phrases we came up with. It's like, coastal cowboy. And I'm like, well, I'm not a cowboy. Yeah, I don't want to be a cowboy.
And finally, I was like, what do you all think about Saltwater Southern? And it's really just that same slow way of living. Woods and water, you know, where the trees meet the Gulf, being able to go.
You're hunting ducks.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: Hunting turkeys. You know, you're hunting ducks on the coast. Hunting turkeys in the woods on the coast. And you're fishing and all in the same spot. Yeah. Hunting alligators. You know, the whole nine yards. It's very niche, and it's. It fits me perfectly. And the track list of the ep, couldn't think of anything else to describe me as an artist and what I can do where I come from better.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Yeah, man. And I think that's so important to have out there early on, like, the first. When I think of, like, somebody's first project, like, it's really get. It's the world getting to know that artist, you know, it's. It's so important. Like, I think back to. To the. The early Wall and stuff. I think back to, like, that you talk about when it. And pores like that. That first Luke Combs record, the. The first FGO record, you know, where it's like, you. You got to know what those guys were about. And I think the world's going to get to know what Madden Metcalf's about with. With Saltwater Southern, bro.
[00:31:01] Speaker C: I hope that's the case. I mean, it's really shows every aspect of what I love. And it's. It's not such a strict country record. It's like.
Like we have a song on there, Young Loretta, and it really could be whatever genre you want it to be, but it's real. And it means a lot to me that I can go out there and make it country and put some pedal steel on it and put some blues guitar on it and just mix it all together, and that's like part of the saltwater.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: Who is Young Loretta? What is Young Loretta?
[00:31:36] Speaker C: So tell me about it. Young Loretta. I like to tell this story.
So my dad would always tell. If my sister brought a guy over, he'd always say, look, my best friend owns 400 crab traps in Oklockney Bay.
If you hurt my daughter, you're gonna wind up in every single one of them. And I found something very interesting about that. And there's a lot of girls where I come from that are just sweet as sin, but twice as dangerous, just, like, stay away from kind of thing. And we had this idea about, you know, she makes love like a V8 truck, but she looks like Young Loretta. And I was like, sold. Yeah, we wrote that. And it's like I said it could. It doesn't even have to be country. It's just real. And every person has a Young Loretta in their life. Yeah. You know exactly who I'm talking about.
You know, you should get away from her.
You just can't.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: No.
[00:32:36] Speaker C: At all.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: No, you don't want to, man.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: Turn the other direction. I mean.
And like you said, you don't want to.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Absolutely. That's awesome. And I think it's. It's awesome that you're working with Freddie One, because he's a legend. But two, like, his experience, like, you talk about, like, in today's climate of where music is and where country music is, a lot of the Billy Joel stuff would fit in the world. Like, Billy Joel, if he were coming up now, could be on a country music festival. Like, the genres he could be, like, in where, like, that Red Clay Strays or that Muscadine bloodline, like, in that world was some of his stuff Freddie
[00:33:11] Speaker C: worked on with, like, almost. I don't want to say Marcus King, but almost a Marcus King.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: It's in that realm, dude. And that's what's so cool, is you can just take chances. It used to be you had to kind of be in this box or your brand had to be in this box, but where you come from, there's so many different styles. Like, there's even, like, the steel drums and the island thing because you're along the coast. Like, you could really do whatever the hell you want to do.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: It's. It's.
I've heard a lot of artists say country music is the biggest it's ever been. Yeah. Saying, you know, obviously, streaming wise and radio wise, it's huge right now.
But the fact that all these different people can have their own lane and all be going up at the same time because they're not the same artists anymore. Yeah. Like, there's not.
There's not just one great guy that has pedal steel on a song. Like, we can all have all these different instruments and we all sound different. And it's really cool to be able to go up at the same time as a lot of other artists. And you know that you're never gonna have to butt heads or try to sound like each other because you're all in your own lane and you're singing about different things. But it's still country because it's real music, and country fans love it.
[00:34:26] Speaker A: I mean, it's that storytelling. Like, you talk about growing up with your dad. Like, it's the story, man.
[00:34:31] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: It's about the story. It's. It's a little more than three chords these days, but it's still the truth, you know, It's. It's. And there's so many. I look at it like there's flavors of ice cream. You know, we have a shit ton of flavors of ice cream out there right now. In the country music world, you want to rock a little bit, you throw on some treaty oak. You want to get a little degenerate wild, you throw on some Gavin, you want to Get. You want to get in your feels, you can throw on a sad Zack top song. You know, even on the female side, like Ella and Megan and what they're doing, like, there's so many different styles, man. It's.
[00:34:59] Speaker C: Don't get me started on Ella. Yeah. I'm in love with her songwriting.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:03] Speaker C: And, like, she's killing, and it's awesome.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: She's somebody that I got to know. Like, I think I was her first podcast back.
[00:35:09] Speaker C: Really?
[00:35:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I got to. Got to know her. I met her playing kickball during COVID when none of us had shows, and she used to play down at the Florida Bama and play down in Tuscaloosa and Birmingham because she's a south Alabama girl just outside of Montgomery. And it's like. Yeah, it's. That's what's cool. You'll. You'll notice that being in town more is you see other guys and girls like that become your friends and watching their journeys as well. Because it's like five, like, five, six years ago, she was sitting in your shoes figuring out what does she want to put out first.
[00:35:39] Speaker C: Right.
[00:35:39] Speaker A: You know, and now she's one of the biggest stars in the world. It's crazy.
[00:35:43] Speaker C: We had a. We had a right schedule with Joy Beth.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: Oh, dude, JB is the homie, man. Yeah, she's the best.
[00:35:50] Speaker C: At this point in time, she was pregnant, right?
[00:35:52] Speaker A: Yeah, she just had her little one.
[00:35:54] Speaker C: Yeah. So she was pregnant, and that night, Ella had sold out the Ryman.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: And understandably. So.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:00] Speaker C: We didn't write that day.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Yeah, man. She has a superpower, which I. I look forward to getting you on. I know you're playing Whiskey Jam tonight, which is gonna be awesome, and. But I look forward to getting you on some of our writers nights and writers rounds, and it's what's cool about the writers. Have you done any of those before?
[00:36:18] Speaker C: I did like, a guitar pool kind of thing for.
For, like, a showcase. Okay.
[00:36:25] Speaker A: Okay, sweet. So.
Yeah, dude. Oh, we can get. We'll. We'll get you on those for sure. We've been. We've been talking about that with the team, so we'll make that happen. But sometimes you're in. You're in a bar, and everybody's talking and it's loud. But then you'll get that one writer, that one artist that just knows how to shut the room, but not even saying, like, hey, guys, be quiet. But by having that thing and it's. JB's always had that, whether it was at Live Oak back in the day. Or it was over at Duck Blind, or we've had her over at the local. Like any room that we put her in. She just has this power. I don't know if it's the. The softness in her voice, it's the lyrics in the songs. Like, she can just get a whole room to shut up like that.
[00:37:03] Speaker C: It's.
[00:37:04] Speaker A: She's just this tiny little girl from. From outside of Birmingham, you know, it's wild.
[00:37:08] Speaker C: I love to go back home and like, who did you write this song with? And I can say, oh, the Warren Brothers or Dan Isbel or, you know, Paul Sykes, whoever. I want to say. And my buddies are not going to quite understand.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: No, you don't know unless you know or you're really, really into it.
[00:37:28] Speaker C: Like, to us, I like to say.
I like to say they're not famous to you, but they're famous to the famous people. Yeah. And that really means a lot because songwriters to me mean more than a lot of artists. Respectfully so. But it's just a songwriter town, and without those songwriters who just put in work every day and they're the ones behind the curtain, you know, writing. And great friends.
Love this place as a songwriter town and the grind of being a songwriter, just.
We've. We've done a lot of cool. Been able to do a lot of cool things in the last year or so. Yeah. But I. There's nothing quite as cool to me as being able to sit in a room with a few buddies and just write a tune. Yeah.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: It's like they say, no farmers, no food, no songwriters, no songs.
[00:38:22] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: And it's like that in the fishing world, too. You don't have the guys that are out there working the traps. You're not going to have those crabs to eat at the restaurant. There's no crab cakes without the guys and girls working the traps at all. You know, it's the same thing without the. Without the songwriters, you don't have.
You don't have the music to listen to.
It's an ecosystem.
[00:38:40] Speaker C: But I love how Nashville recognizes that.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:42] Speaker C: And. And, you know, Freddy's.
When we were going to writers rounds and stuff, just meeting with different writers and writing, and he's. He's like, I've never seen a place embrace songwriters quite like Nashville does. Yeah. And that's so special, I'm sure, to him. It's really special to me seeing, you know, how grateful Nashville is to riders. And when folks come to Nashville, they do want to go see the. The writers rounds and they want to Go to the Bluebird, and they want to go to the listening room. Yeah. And that's just the coolest thing to me.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Yeah, man, it is. So we're about. We're in the spring now of 20, 26.
We got saltwater Southern coming out. But what are the big things that you're excited for this year?
[00:39:27] Speaker C: Turkey season opens up next Friday.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: So I've never gone hunting in my life. I'm Yankee Doodle Dandy. Grew up outside New York City, so I've never been out. I've had a lot of friends. I've worked with guys and girls from Alabama and Georgia and Florida and all that. I've never been hunting. But the turkey in Florida is the Osceola, right?
[00:39:44] Speaker C: Way south.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: That's way south. So you're hunting like normal turkeys, where you're at Easterns. Yeah, Easterns.
[00:39:49] Speaker C: Okay, Easterns. The eastern wild turkey.
I was born and raised deer hunter. So, I mean, between my dad and my grandpa, it was just deer hunting. And that's all they took me to do.
And then the last couple years, when I could start to kind of make my own money and afford to go duck hunting, I'd go with buddies duck hunting. And I fell in love with duck hunting. And then I got into this turkey thing, and I got the itch.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: I've heard the turkey itch. Like, I.
Like, I know Gary from Muscadine Bloodline. He's. He was, again, deer hunter forever. Had gone out, done his thing, because they're mobile guys, so they're lower Alabama. But then during COVID he got really into turkeys, and now he's, like, gone all over. I think he's got, like, 20 or 30 states that he's killed the turkey, and he has them all mounted on his wall. Like, I hear when you get into turkey hunting, it's a different level than any other kind.
[00:40:43] Speaker C: And I thought buck fever, like, when you harvest a buck, especially a big buck.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:47] Speaker C: And you're just, like, shaking. You can see your thick jacket moving because your heart's beating.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: That famous Luke Bryan video that. Is he down? Is he down? Is he down?
[00:40:58] Speaker C: That's. I brought that up to a mutual friend of Luke's, and he thought that that was scripted. Like, he thought that was a parody video making fun of one of the hunting shows. And I'm like, dude, that is Luke after he killed a buck. And he's like, that's hilarious. I never knew that.
[00:41:16] Speaker A: Buck fever.
[00:41:17] Speaker C: Yeah. But so they say, you know, duck hunting, you don't really get that. You get, like, the high five and the buddies and, oh, my God, six ducks just flew in. And we got all of them. Yeah. And they're flying at Mock Jesus, but with turkeys. I've heard it's buck fever times 10.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Because you're having to call that thing in. Like, it's a whole different level of strategy from what I've heard.
[00:41:41] Speaker C: Primal. Like, you're sitting right there with a wild animal, and you're having to be. You're acting like a hen, and they're chasing you at the Outsmart them.
I'm really stoked for it. I haven't killed one yet. I'm. This year's my year. I'm super stoked for it.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: That's awesome, dude. So turkey season coming up, the EP coming out. What are we looking at for the
[00:42:02] Speaker C: summer radio and, you know, hitting the road, hopefully, and.
[00:42:08] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:42:08] Speaker C: Doing all the things. Staying busy.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:10] Speaker C: I can't stand to go back home and just look around, like, back to reality, like.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:18] Speaker C: I mean, I went home last week for the first time since Christmas, and I realized I was sitting on my behind, and I was like, what am I supposed to do this week? So I called my uncle and I said, hey, y' all need help at the restaurant? He said, yeah, and we need help on the crab boat, too. And I was like, dad, coming.
So I went back and hopped on the crab boat. But it's.
It's funny because all I ever wanted to do when I was commercial fishing and working in the restaurant was come here and play music. Yeah. And now it's so awesome that I can go back home and work at the restaurant and bomb with those guys and that they can see that I'm not. I'm not forgetting about them. And I still love to do that. It's like I said, it kind of blocks out a little bit of the noise. Yeah. When all you can think about is shaking the next trap or pulling the next trap.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. I mean it. And also at the same time, it's. It's such a grind up here to be able to go back home and get completely away from it for. Even if it's just, like, 24, 48 hours. Like, it's a quick trip home, and you get out on that boat and you're not worrying about all the chaos that's going on with your career.
[00:43:28] Speaker C: There's no.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: It's got to be nice to get out on the boat.
[00:43:30] Speaker C: There's no meeting I have to be at.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:32] Speaker C: There's no, like, oh, I got to write in five minutes. It's just throwing crab traps. Pulling crab traps and throwing crab traps. Yeah.
[00:43:40] Speaker A: How long have you been living up here?
[00:43:42] Speaker C: I'm. I'm still. See, right now is a weird period.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I. I thought you were still. You weren't quite here. Like, you were still visiting. But now I hear you're going back home. So you like living somewhere in between or where you at?
[00:43:53] Speaker C: So, technically I live in Panama City, but.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: Oh, that's okay.
[00:43:58] Speaker C: I just moved into a new house about a month and a half ago, and I've stayed six nights there. I don't think I'm really living anywhere besides maybe out of my truck, I mean.
So I'm just kind of all over the place when I'm here. I'm here for a few weeks, and I love it when I'm home. I'm home for a little bit, and I'm off to the next thing, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I've been living out of a suitcase since 13, so.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: Well, that's gonna make.
[00:44:25] Speaker C: Change it now.
[00:44:26] Speaker A: That's gonna make touring nice and easy for you when you get out there, bro.
[00:44:29] Speaker C: I love it. I love the Go, go, go.
Just getting stuff done. Yeah. Like, what can I do next? Yeah. Because if I'm just chillaxing, time moves very slow.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah, same, bro. Absolutely. I can't wait for you to hit those college towns. I can't wait to hear about you playing in Statesboro, Georgia, or playing in Freaking. Which Statesboro is God's country.
All my good friends in Statesboro. I love Georgia Southern, man. That's one of my favorite college towns. Or going into Tuscaloosa or going into Starkville or Knoxville or. Or Gainesville or Tallahassee. Places that you might have a little bit more familiarity with. Which. Where is your. Your college fandom allegiance at?
[00:45:07] Speaker C: I mean, I played. I played a frat show for a good buddy of mine. He's a social chair at SAE at Troy in Alabama.
[00:45:16] Speaker A: Oh, those. That Dothan, Alabama. Troy, Alabama knows how to get down.
[00:45:21] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's such a small college that they can still, you know, all you have to do is play one show and half the campus knows your name just because you played for sae.
Yeah. And Springtime show. Everybody's at a basketball game, but so there. I played Potbellies at Florida State. I don't know if you've ever been down there, but Potbellies is like.
Old Row ranked it the third best college bar in the United States.
And the owner hollered at me. He's like, dude, I really want you to come play. And I'm like, I really want to come play.
[00:45:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:55] Speaker C: So we hit it off there. So it's just really all over the place. And Panama City is going to be fun, doing that same kind of Luke Bryan thing that he made all the frats. And, dude, that's what.
[00:46:08] Speaker A: That's the way to do it. If you're coming up out of the Southeast, like, why not? And that's why I love Statesboro. You can't talk about the history of. History of country music because it's where Luke Bryan went to college with Dallas Davidson, and that was a whole era.
Cole Swindell was. Was a fan, going to Luke's shows, helping him load in and out gear, and then he sold merch, and then he started writing songs. You know, nowadays, I mean, it's where Gavin Adcock went to college and had that famous one. Dylan Marlow was born and raised.
[00:46:34] Speaker C: You got a lot of birds. Will Mosley, shout out.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: Cole Goodwin, Bryce Leatherwood.
There's guys down there right now, like Kate Beecher and Ben Bates, that are cutting the seed. I try to state Landon Smith's another one. Like, there's so many, like, I try to keep my. My eyes and ears on, like, the state of Alabama just because my history with Trey and the Muscadine guys and Ella and stuff. But then that South Georgia region, there's so much talent. The Burrow Boys, man. G, they say G, they say get after that ass. They know how to party. That is their school.
[00:47:05] Speaker C: The Blue Room.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
[00:47:06] Speaker C: That's such a legendary venue.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: That was the first show I did coming out of, like, during COVID I went down there December 1st. It was the week that DDID came out for Trey, and I was selling his T shirts, and it was my first time in there, bro. It was crazy.
[00:47:20] Speaker C: This song was insane.
[00:47:22] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And that was the first place that we went. I was my first time. I'd gone from working with Muscadine to doing that. That was my first time in Statesboro. And it was a time. And then we went back there two months later, played back to back night, sold it out.
[00:47:33] Speaker C: You got a thousand Georgia Southern kids.
[00:47:36] Speaker A: Oh, dude, they get. Yeah, dude. But. But not even just. It's just they love live music down there, and they just did Gada Jam down there with Bailey and Hudson and Blake White. And like, there's.
[00:47:45] Speaker C: That's become huge.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: Yeah, man. It's just there's. I can't Wait for those college markets to have your live show in there, man. Because like you said, that's a model that going back to Corey Smith back in the day in Georgia.
[00:47:57] Speaker C: I love Corey Smith.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: Yeah, man, he's. He's the Godfather. Without Corey Smith, you don't have an fgl. You don't have a Jason Aldean, you don't have a Brantley Gilbert. You don't have all those guys. Because he taught him, hey, start in the college town. For him it was Athens. And then just grow your circle. Start selling out shows in Athens. And then you can work your way down to Macon or you can work your way out to Milledgeville. Same thing in Florida with Jake Owen. You know, it's like you start in Tallahassee when he was going to school at State, and then he started just growing his circle, you know.
[00:48:24] Speaker C: Man, I would say Corey Smith is my most under the radar influence. Yeah, I never knew he was crazy under the radar until I looked at like monthly listeners and followers and everything.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: Dude. Yeah, he's. He. He ended up. He ended up just staying local in Georgia and he had opportunities to come up here. Like, I'll be honest, I didn't really know who Corey Smith was till I moved down here. He's a Southern thing, you know. And there's other guys that come up in that, in that world too. Like, there's regionally. Look in Texas. There's so many great artists just make their living playing in Texas.
[00:48:55] Speaker C: And it's crazy.
[00:48:55] Speaker A: There's legends in Florida. Like, you talk about those cover bands, it's like they're superstars in their. And they're small pond. They make a great living.
[00:49:02] Speaker C: You know, I've heard a lot about like Cohen, Parker, both. Dude, before they even toured outside of Texas, they had these crazy enterprises in Texas. Like everyone in Texas, the state of Texas, their names.
[00:49:16] Speaker A: Yeah, dude.
[00:49:16] Speaker C: And no one outside knew who they were yet.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:19] Speaker C: And they start touring the country and, you know, streaming like crazy radio, man. Crazy.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: I remember CO and Muscadine kind of worked out a little. They became friends back in like 20. Back when I was like 2017, 2018, like right when like Noise Complaint. And then when Harold Saul High came out and we would go out with Muscadine when I was selling merch for them, we'd go out to Texas and open shows for CO and then CO would come out to Alabama and open shows for Muscadine. And that was how Muscadine got into Texas, and that was how CO got into Alabama, you know, and it's making those friendships because they were both huge in their markets and they were independent at the time. And we're like, why don't we just do this together? You come play for our crowd. We'll come play for your crowd.
[00:49:57] Speaker C: That's what I'm most excited for, creating those friendships.
[00:50:00] Speaker A: Dude, you're going to. That's so much of it is the hang and just being a good human, you know, it's like, if you're. If you're a shitty person, there's something that's find their way up to the top, you know? But it's a lot easier and a lot more rewarding and fun. You're just a good human, and you create cool with your friends.
[00:50:15] Speaker C: That's something that I really want to live by. It's just like, yeah. You see all these folks that are too good to hang out with, like, the OGs of their lives, and, like, just these, for lack of better words, just like, musicians that are just too good for their own good.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:37] Speaker C: And I'm like, what's stopping people from being a good person?
[00:50:40] Speaker A: It's not hard.
[00:50:42] Speaker C: I mean, I saw someone said, you know, if you pass somebody on the way up and you're an ass to them, you might have to pass them on the way back down and you might need their help one day. I'm like, absolutely. I mean, we're all in this together. We're all going towards the same goal.
What's stopping us from. It's like, I see Luke Bryan and Blake Shelton now have their, like, their talking battles on Instagram and all their moments, and I'm like, it's so cool to me that I can make friends and lasting friendships. I mean, they've probably been friends for 20 years.
[00:51:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:18] Speaker C: And so that's what I'm most looking forward to. And hitting the road with, you know, folks like that and just.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
[00:51:24] Speaker C: Riding with them and, like, the co Parker thing, like, they're best friends.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:28] Speaker C: And they're just on the way up together.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. And you're gonna find those guys and girls that you connect with here in town and that are gonna be, like, part of your class. Like, when I moved here, my class was Trey, and it was Ella, and it was Dylan Marlowe, and it was like that 2018-2020, and then all the COVID kids moved here. And then it's like you have, like, you instantly, there's that instant bond when you're out in the bars with the other people that are new to town because you're all new here, so it's like you. You build those bonds and those friendships and those connections with the other guys and girls that are new here, and
[00:52:01] Speaker C: it's, you know, it's almost. It's almost instant. Yeah, I know you had Dalton Davis on.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: Oh, dude, I love Dalton, man.
[00:52:08] Speaker C: How do you not like that guy?
[00:52:09] Speaker A: Yeah, man. We got connected with him through a mutual friend, through our buddy Sam Crabtree, you know, back in the day. And they're from the same hometown in North Carolina. And we had Dalton playing our rounds that we did that we used to do back in the day in Key west, and he played some of our stuff up here, and watching what he's doing right now is sick, man.
[00:52:26] Speaker C: That's a really good example, is like, me and Dalton could not get any more distant in our sound. And, you know, even the instruments that we use tempos or.
And we're, like, all the way up together, and we're supporting each other. And he's got the pedal steel country thing going on, and I've got some of the modern stuff still storytelling. Yeah. And it's really cool to see each other, you know, and. And be right there next to each other. And I'm really excited to just see the future for both of us and what we got in the future for all of these new artists that are popping out.
[00:52:58] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Well, man, thank you so much for coming on here. This was freaking awesome.
[00:53:03] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: Getting to hang, bro. Like, you've. Sky's the limit, brother. Like, it really is. I can't wait for Saltwater Southern to be out, and I can't wait to see your name start popping up on tours, hearing your songs on the radio, man, and just continuing to watch you grow, dude. And you ever need anything in town, man, you feel free to reach out. And welcome to the Razor Audi family, brother.
[00:53:24] Speaker C: Thank you, dude. I'm excited to thank you for having me. And. Yeah, man, excited to get you down to Florida.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: Let's go fishing or something, Dude, I'm so down for that. Let's do it for sure. That'd be awesome. And I got a bunch of good food spots up here that will. Will get you eaten, right? Not quite the seafood that you'd have. So we'll take you to some other stuff. You know, there's all kinds of. Some great, great Mexican restaurants. That's what blew my mind about moving
[00:53:45] Speaker C: to the south, was Southernized Mexican.
[00:53:47] Speaker A: Yeah, bro. It's an institution. You know, everybody says grace on a. On a Wednesday night at a. At a Mexican restaurant. You know, like FGL used to sing about. But y' all be sure to go check out our boy Madden Metcalf. Saltwater Southern, the new ep. Go and check it out and give them a follow on social media. Be on the lookout. It's a rocket ship that you're going to want to hop onto and somebody that you're going to want to say, I was listening to him back in 2026 before you're paying all kinds of money to go see him selling out shows around the world. For more on us, visit Razorride.com Shout out as always to our friends from Surfside. No bubbles, no troubles and we will see you guys next time. Prime man Madden Metcalf. I'm Matt Brill. This has been outside
[00:54:28] Speaker B: I never been the con for stair one place for ch too long I ain't never been the best at s I love you to a girl I love only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me if you really know me you know I'm just a two trick pony but maybe the drink and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick pony yeah.
