Low Gap

[00:00:12] Speaker A: Come on. [00:00:15] Speaker B: This is outside the round with Matt. [00:00:17] Speaker A: Barrel, a razor alley podcast. [00:00:23] Speaker B: Fellas, this is in early morning. We had a good time last night at Live Oak, sitting here with. With Finn. And Gus Johnson. Is your last name correct? [00:00:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. You guys sound like NASCAR drivers. Gus Johnson just sounds like a guy that should be singing country songs or. Or driving a. Driving a car around a dirt track like Eldora. How you guys doing this morning? [00:00:51] Speaker A: I'm doing well. [00:00:52] Speaker B: I'm doing pretty well. What about you, Finn? [00:00:54] Speaker A: I'm doing great. I'm glad to be here. [00:00:56] Speaker B: So, you guys are the youngest guests that I've ever had. Well, you tie, I think you time. Mason Horn, you are by far the youngest guest. I think Mason was, like, 19 when I had him on back in the day. But you boys are what you guys do at such a young age. Like, you're. You're. You're still wearing. You're wearing your FFA. Your price. You're still. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm still. I'm still the vice president of my high school FFA. [00:01:23] Speaker B: Dude, that's awesome. Vice president of the high school FFA. [00:01:28] Speaker A: I'm missing the meeting for this. I'm missing our FFA meeting. It's tomorrow. [00:01:35] Speaker B: But you're. But your FFA vice president. And then fucking closing down a bar last night. Ripping guitar not just guitar. Electric mandolin, as well, which just blew my mind. I had never seen you boys live, and I've heard so much, many great things from Ryan Newman's over at the Amber sound to, of course, Grady Smith. Shout out. Shout out to our boy Grady from. For about you boys. And then I got really turned on to you guys this past summer and was like, oh, shit, these kids are cool. This is the next generation. Not even the next generation, because this is, like, starting to happen now. So it's really cool to get to have you guys on a podcast like this this morning. Honestly. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Appreciate it. [00:02:19] Speaker B: Now, I appreciate the hell out of you guys for coming on. So where. What's. What was the trip down here? Like? You guys come from Ohio, right? [00:02:29] Speaker A: Well, we actually had a gig in Indianapolis two nights ago, so we drove over there from. Well, Finn drove from home. I drove from sensei. Yeah. Played a gig in Indianapolis. It was like, what, 4 hours? The drive. The drive home to here from Indy? Oh, yeah. It was about 4 hours easy drive. It wasn't bad. [00:02:51] Speaker B: That's not bad at all. And that's the beginning leg of this pretty much cross country drive that you boys are on right now. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah, going to south southwest, dude. Yeah, it feels like. It feels like a tour. I mean, it's. [00:03:06] Speaker B: It is. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Many tours. Bunch of 30 minutes sets, so. Yeah. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Are you guys all traveling in one vehicle, or do you guys caravan it down? [00:03:17] Speaker A: Well, we wanted to do one. We've got a minivan for Finn and I and Ben, our bassist, and then Zach and one of his buddies from college. Well, actually high school. We all go to college together, but they went to the same high school. They're. They're taking a little coop. They're just driving down a little car, and then we're hauling all the gear. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Nice. There you go. Making it. Making it work. You guys enjoy coming down here. You guys have been down here quite a bit before. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we're. [00:03:47] Speaker B: Or is this like. [00:03:48] Speaker A: This is like the fifth or 6th time we've come down here. I mean, we come down a lot. We've recorded here a few times. We've played whiskey jam a few times, you know, meeting with people a few times. It's been probably, I don't know, closer to ten, actually. Yeah, it's. It's the third time, I think, staying in the same hotel that we're in right now. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Okay, so you're getting familiar. [00:04:09] Speaker A: Same hotel. [00:04:10] Speaker B: You figured out where you want to be. [00:04:12] Speaker A: It's funny. It's not even a great hotel. The location is just so good. And our dad, he is an engineer. He travels a lot, so he's a Hilton diamond member. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Shout out to Papa diamond with the perks. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So, like, he's going to come see. He's flying into Austin to come see us play there. And so I called on one night. I was talking about hotels. I'm like, yeah, hotels in Nashville, man, are freaking crazy, dude. [00:04:41] Speaker B: They're nuts. [00:04:42] Speaker A: It's not even, like, we paid, like, $140 for a pretty nice hotel in Indianapolis, which I would have gotten a cheaper hotel had we paid for the Nashville hotels. I looked at the basically same types of hotel, even in, like, east Nashville or, like, down the road Franklin. $340 a night was the lowest I could find for something that wasn't like a motel six. [00:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah, and this week's tough because this is kind of where Nashville turns into its busy season. We're just coming out of our dead season because you've got, like, this got, like, three or four crazy things happen. Aside from you, boy. Aside from Logaff being, which is a big freaking deal, I might add, you've got St. Patrick's Day coming up this weekend. Yeah, that's the SEC basketball tournament. Happens at Bridgestone arena this week when you have Tennessee, Georgia, Auburn, Alabama, UK. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Our minivan is Kentucky. Kentucky blue, baby. [00:05:43] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:05:44] Speaker A: We were born in Lexington. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Oh, nice. I love. I love Lexington. That's cool. I went to a Bulls bands and barrels there recently. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:05:50] Speaker B: At the Charles one at the horse park. No, this was. It was Wyatt Flores and tree Dioke revival. Ooh, pretty fucking wild if it was crazy. And then the other thing that happens this week is all these schools that are up north. Like, folks there where I'm from in the northeast. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Where are you from? [00:06:08] Speaker B: I'm from New York. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:06:10] Speaker B: Folks that are up in the upper midwest, like your Minnesota's, your Wisconsin's. Like those. [00:06:15] Speaker A: The Ohio. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, Ohio, too. All those states. The kids in those schools, instead of going to the beach, they come to Nashville for their spring break. [00:06:23] Speaker A: Yes. [00:06:24] Speaker B: There are college kids that instead of going to the beach, they're like, I want to go chance my fake idea on Broadway. I want to go party in Nashville. [00:06:32] Speaker A: I have so many friends that have lost fakes in Nashville. [00:06:36] Speaker B: It's probably two guys like me. I used to be a bouncer, so that was my job. I was a door guy. I used to be the. I'm not the biggest guy. I was the id guy. But you have all of those things happening this week. Yeah, I think. Explains the hotel. [00:06:50] Speaker A: No, I. I forgot about the SEC tournament. Yeah, I did know, like. Yeah, it's busy season. It's spring break. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Like, and then from here to, like, Halloween, it is just full go. [00:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Bachelor parties, tourists, conventions, this and that. And it's just crazy. But when it's dead season, it's kind of nice. When it's, like, quieter and, like, a little bit chiller. Your red door hangs are a little bit better and things like that, as being as young as you guys are, where do you go to, like, network and do all that stuff when you're down here? Or is all that kind of prearranged when you guys come down here? Like, you guys have your homies? [00:07:28] Speaker A: Well, so it depends. Like, when we, like, this week, we. [00:07:33] Speaker B: Get to be in the bars. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get. We'll get bounds most places. We'll get bounced as soon as we know. The first time we played whiskey jam, we walked in there. We did. This is back before the full band. It's just me and Finn. We're playing. We walk out, we talk to some, like, agents and label dudes that came in. You know, they do the natural thing. They hand you your card, their card, or you hand them your card, you text them, you never hear back. That's, like, classic. This is Nashville as old as time. No, it's hilarious. But we were talking to Grady Smith, who. This is our first time meeting him. He actually set it up for us. We didn't know that until Ward Guenther hops on stage. He's like, hey, Grady Smith, let you know. Told me I need to get these guys on. I'm like, wow, grady. All right, great. He's like, he helps out young, young artists so much like that, but they bounced us out. We were talking to Grady, and some guy's like, you got to leave. [00:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Last night, we've. We built really goodwill over at. Over at Live Oak, where we've had so many people play underage, because our big thing is, like, grady. Like, ward, like, a lot of folks in town, is, like, finding the next thing. [00:08:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Finding young guys and girls and giving them an opportunity to play. And all of our shows are in bars, so it's like, yeah, 21. We gotta figure that out. The wristband system, it works really well. [00:09:00] Speaker A: And, you know, like, I get it because there's a lot of, you know, like, I don't know why Finn's so mature for his age. If I was, like, 16 in some bar, you know, invited me in. Yeah, I try to get a beer, I would. Now that I'm a little older, I'm like, no, I am, like, I can. [00:09:18] Speaker B: Wait a little bit. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Yeah. If you invite me to play. I'm not. Like, I've said that rule for myself. If you invite me to your bar to play, I'm not gonna get you in trouble. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:29] Speaker A: I'm not gonna get myself in trouble and not get invited back. It's just not worth it, you know? Two beers is not worth getting banned from live oak for life, you know, because when I'm 25, they'll remember that. You know, be like, oh, this is the kid that got in trouble that one night, you know? [00:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I did not know you guys were. I mean, I knew you guys were young, but, like, especially you, Finn. You're still in high school, and you. The way you carry yourself and the way you carry yourself to Gus, like, at 19, I was. I was not as mature. Do you think the music thing has something to do with that? Why you guys are able to be in rooms like you are? [00:10:05] Speaker A: Well, you know, Gus. Gus graduated early. He went to Cincinnati. Graduated year early. [00:10:10] Speaker B: So that helps you in college right now? [00:10:13] Speaker A: Yeah, this is my second year sick. So it would be my freshman year, but I'm a. I'm a sophomore, but I got to go hang out with him a lot in uc. That's how I got really mature. That's a lie. That's completely, like, Finn has always been, like, his soul is, like, a 77 year old dude. Like, well, everyone was listening to, like, Kendrick Lamar and Drake. I was listening to Jimmy Buffet. Guy Clark when I was, like, nine years old. Finn's favorite artist when he was a kid, I think, was the highwayman. Like, when he was, like, five, we had an old highwayman CD. Finn would listen to the highwaymen all the time. I listened when I was young. Our dad, he had great taste. I listened to, like, Todd Snyder, and that was my favorite artist when I was a kid. What we like to mention, and this is extremely important because our dad went to UK. I feel like we're talking about our dad like, he's some sort of elitist. He's not. He's just your average engineer who gets the perks. He's not. He's not an average engineer. He's an average, extremely above average. Yeah. Like, intelligence wise, smartest guy we've. We've ever known. He's so smart. But since he went to UK, he was in the sort of uk country scene. Like, that college country scene in Lexington was really good. They had guys like Larry Redmond playing every. Playing the bars, like, every weekend. Oh, Montgomery Gentry. Yeah. He was one of the house bands down there. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Wow. [00:11:37] Speaker A: But he got to learn about all of the good alt country before they became, you know. You know what we all listen to now? Like, drive by truckers. He knew them. We listened to them as a kid. Drive by truckers. Jason Isbel, Robert Earl Guy Clark, Robert Earl Keen. That's my dad's favorite artist ever. That's all our dad. And that's because he went to Kentucky. Yeah. So we kind of owe all of our music taste and all of basically our inspirations to him, and Lexington introduced us to that. [00:12:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Go, cats. My first time in Lexington was with a band that a lot of folks, I think the way I. When people ask, like, who are the. What are these low gap guys sound like? I describe. I describe, like, guys like, like muscadine, like Tyler Halberson. Like. Like I say that and I. And I mean, and I mean that and a high compliment because those guys are, to me, like, awesome dudes and great in the scene. And I attribute a lot, like, your guys sound to like that, but also, you guys are, like, your own thing, and I think coming up in music, like, you guys have has a lot to do with it. I hear the old country, dude. I hear it in your lyrics. I hear it in your. How many guys are up there playing electric mandolin? Like, it's just so different. [00:12:46] Speaker A: I'll tell you who. Robert O'keen's mandolin play. Yeah. That's where we got the idea to say, what's it? Oh, no, I think it's Tim Warner's his name, right? Yeah. I. I think it's. I should know that off the top of my head. I think it's, like, Tim Warner. That's like, you know, it's. His last name's definitely Warner. I think it's Tim. He. That guy, he walks up there. I think he's got a fourth string, right? He doesn't even have an a string. It's called, like, a bazooki. It's like a big mandolin of, like, a mandocello. He's got. And they're all, like, custom made. He's got, like, a rack of. They just look like a bunch of tiny guitars. Kind of like what I was playing last night. He plays them like he's the lead guitarist. Yeah, they. Well, I mean, Robert O'Keen, I don't know who he used to have. Well, he still has a guy that does guitar. Well, he's retired now, but last time we saw him, he didn't have a lead guitar. He just had that guy. Amanda Lynn. This was, what, three years ago? Yeah. Beach ballroom and Cleveland. Cleveland. Great place. Yeah. His mandolin guy was playing lead guitar licks really phenomenally. You would have had no idea it was Amanda Lynn listening to it. And I was like, finn, you gotta pick that thing up, baby. And he did. And it's super, super cool. It rocks. [00:13:59] Speaker B: That's awesome. Yeah. And coming from Ohio, Ohio is like a huge hub for us with raised rowdy, because raised rowdy started with Nikki T. And his friends a long time ago, about 1213 years ago, going to country concert in Fort Laramie, Ohio. [00:14:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:14] Speaker B: And that was where raise rowdy started. They went on a bachelor party. [00:14:19] Speaker A: Nikki. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Nikki T. Grew up a big rock fan and then got more into country music, and they went as a bachelor party and then just kept going. Every year became, like, a tradition amongst their friends. So places in Ohio, like the dusty armadillo, like the blue stone, like thirsty cowboy. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:14:37] Speaker B: Those clubs are a huge part of who we are as raised ride. I mean, I'm a New York guy, but Nikki's from Pittsburgh, so that, like, western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio into western Ohio. Ohio is such a hotbed for great music. Small town shit like country music. Just good, good old people. I love, like, if you look up, like, I know Ohio sometimes gets some shit. People like Ohio, man. Like Florida, man, like that kind of shit. But Ohio is really just. It's good hearted. Good hearted midwestern folks that got ranch dressing and bush. And bush light, busch light and ranch. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Dressing in the rings. [00:15:18] Speaker B: That's what they do. [00:15:19] Speaker A: People don't think about it. Like, you know how I've heard. I hear people say this a lot. Like, I saw this TikTok the other day where Europeans love to make fun of America, Americans for not, like, having passports, because they don't realize how big America is. And it's like you can literally go to every climate in the world in America. [00:15:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Like, why would you get a passport to go to wherever, when you can go to the beach in Florida, you can go to the mountains in Colorado, you can go, you know, to Appalachia. People don't think about it, but, like, the southeast part of Ohio is. It is Appalachia. Like it did that eastern Kentucky, West Virginia music scene. Ohio's part of that. [00:16:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:00] Speaker A: And, like, Cincinnati, it's an hour and a half from Lexington. Louisville, it's an hour and a half from Indianapolis. Like, there's a little bit of a folk. There's a pretty big folk scene in Cincinnati. We've played with guys that are really phenomenal doing this, like, solo folk thing. Arlo McKinley's from Cincinnati. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't know that. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So, like, that style's bigged over there. Nolan Taylor's Cincinnati. [00:16:25] Speaker B: Oh, yes. I'm big fan of him. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Yeah. So, like, Cincinnati's got it even, like, parts of Cleveland, you get out of Cleveland, you're in farm town, you know, country guys. David Allen, cos from Akron. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot. I mean, is Dwight Yocomb. Is he from Cincinnati or did he live in Cincinnati? There's something. I feel like Dwight Yocomb has a tie to Cincinnati. Somehow I might be mistaken about that. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I love, I love. I love Ohio. And it's funny, too. One of our, one of our big writers, he writes more on the rock scene. He runs our rowdy alternative side. His name is Sam Berg and he's on the. He lives on the Kentucky Ohio border. [00:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah, northern. Northern Kentucky. I mean, like Florence, 30 minutes from Ohio. Yeah, Florence. That the. There's a saying that the Ohio river is 100 miles wide and it is kind of true. Like, the people that live across that river. They're. Some of them like Florence. I mean, that's a southern town. Florence. Florence. Kentucky is a southern town in nature. And it's only 40 minutes. Not even. It's like 25 minutes from Cincinnati. Yeah, it's a great place to go. I mean, but yeah, Ohio's so diverse. Like, you truly can. I mean, it's. It's a little colder, but you can go to Appalachian, Ohio, and you're in the mountains, the hills, you can go up, you just go west. You're over in the fields, you go to Cleveland, you got the lakes, you got the Ohio river, obviously the whole bottom. But Cincinnati is the Ohio. I mean, Cincinnati Ohioans make fun of it. They say it's part of Kentucky. I don't know if that's fair to Kentucky, but because I've lived in both places, I would consider Cincinnati a little more Ohio than Kentucky. But there's definitely that tie, like, a lot of great country music from Ohio. Yeah, you forgot to mention Luke Grimes. Oh, yeah. I always forget that Luke Grimes is from Ohio. What part of Ohio is he from? I can't even remember. I think it's out west. And the black swamp. There's literally a swamp. Toledo, they drained it just like, you know, seminal wind kind of thing. Yeah, well, yeah, it's quite diverse. Ohio. [00:18:35] Speaker B: It's. [00:18:35] Speaker A: It is really. It's a great state. Like, people that hate on Ohio, you gotta go to Ohio. Like, yeah, Cleveland's a cool freaking city. Cincinnati. German catholic tradition. There's more. There's more churches built between or before 1900 in Cincinnati per capita than any other city, you know, in America. [00:18:59] Speaker B: Wow. [00:18:59] Speaker A: Like, we have beautiful architecture. There's a ton of murals. Like, Cincinnati is a beautiful city. Columbus. Columbus. I'm not a big Columbus guy. Columbus. Why do you like Columbus so much? [00:19:12] Speaker B: Being on tour, man, being on tour, you go to the. I forget what it's called, but they have, like, that big, like, food area, like that big market. That's really cool. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:20] Speaker B: And then the bluestone is one of my favorite clubs to go. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Columbus does have some cool clubs, the bluestones. [00:19:25] Speaker B: But again, I don't know it as, like, the Ohio State. And like. Yeah, as a native of Ohio, like, I know as a college town, it's. It's not. Doesn't have the same character as some other places. [00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it does. Cause it's newer. It lacks that historic character. But there are some cool things, like the agriculture. Because of Ohio State, they've got a huge agricultural program. Horse Congress is quarter horse Congress is in Columbus. [00:19:52] Speaker B: What is quarter horse congress? [00:19:54] Speaker A: It's a big, like, month long event. And what is this? They. They do a lot of competitions. It's a little bit, you know, like, the horse scene is really divided. I only know this because my girlfriend is a horse girl. She actually won. [00:20:08] Speaker B: Bless you. Shout out to the girl. [00:20:09] Speaker A: Horse girl. [00:20:10] Speaker B: God, dude, son. [00:20:12] Speaker A: She's. She's good, though. She won this. She won the state fair when she was, like, what? Like 16, doing pleasure writing. But there's that group. They do, like, pleasure western. It's a lot more, I guess, technical. They judge you on how you ride the horse, basically. You know, it's less of, like, a timed event where, you know, rodeo's. It's like you're. You're running as fast as you can. You're trying to rope something or do the bulls or run around the barrels or. You know what I'm talking about. It's all time. Just how fast? With the exception of, like, I guess, bulls, where, you know, you do have some technique in that, obviously, but, like, you're trotting in a line and you make your horse walk sideways or whatever. I guess it's similar to, like, I don't know if you've ever seen the dressage events on tv. [00:21:02] Speaker B: No, I don't know. I don't know what. For a guy that works that as a company in country music, I do not know much about, like, horse culture. [00:21:10] Speaker A: It's like. [00:21:10] Speaker B: I just don't. [00:21:12] Speaker A: It's very strange. It's all showmanship, you know, like. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Like a dog show. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:18] Speaker B: That's actually a good dog and pony show. This is the pony show. [00:21:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And that's huge deal in Columbus. [00:21:26] Speaker B: Huge. [00:21:27] Speaker A: And that. What else do they have? They have another horse event. I can't remember what it's called. I don't know. They have a lot of horse events there at the state fairgrounds. The Ohio State Fair is a big deal. So there's a really nice western store in Columbus called rods. Probably the best western store in Ohio. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Is that where you got that shirt? Cause that shirt is. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Yes, this is where I got that shirt. I got. I. Nice. I got. I got this short. So that the quarter horse congress, it's. Were you in the FFA? [00:21:58] Speaker B: No, I grew up in a New York suburb. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Okay. I got. [00:22:02] Speaker B: Yeah, they didn't have an FFA. I did spend time. My aunt and uncle had a horse farm in East Tennessee where they. They boarded some horses. So I've. I've cleaned stalls. I've done all that. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Okay. [00:22:12] Speaker B: No pun intended, but. [00:22:14] Speaker A: Well, at FFA, they have a national convention in Indianapolis, and they get tons of vendors inside this huge conference hall there. And you go buy stuff, basically. Like, you spend a bunch of money. They do that at quarter horse. Congress rods has this huge, like, section. It's just a store within this big building inside the Ohio state fairgrounds. And they have this great deal. It's three. You get. Buy two, get one. Three Wrangler products. [00:22:45] Speaker B: Wow. [00:22:46] Speaker A: So I bought this. I bought, I want to say, like, another shirt. And then I bought a real nice jacket. It was a jacket I was wearing last night. [00:22:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:56] Speaker A: And, yeah, that's exactly where I bought it. It's a phenomenal store right there in Columbus. Like, you wouldn't expect it, but it, like, even Columbus, it's got its agricultural ties. It's pretty cool. [00:23:07] Speaker B: So where you guys grew up, it is. What was the county again? [00:23:11] Speaker A: Holmes. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Holmes County. Holmes county. And you said it's, like the home of. It's like, it's amish country. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:23:18] Speaker B: In Ohio, which I've driven through amish country in Pennsylvania on my voyages back and forth from New York to Lancaster. Yeah, driven through Lancaster and been on the highway, and then you look over, and there's, like, a dirt road on the side of the highway. What is growing up in amish culture? Like, for, like, for you guys? Guys? [00:23:39] Speaker A: Well, okay, so, like, what is. [00:23:42] Speaker B: What is grown up is that we've all seen, like, amish mafia or, like, breaking Amish. [00:23:46] Speaker A: That's all baloney, everything about it. The Amish hate that stuff and makes them look bad, and they rightfully hate it, because the Amish, they're actually mostly really good people. Like, they are very family oriented, the Amish. So I grew up in elementary school. We had 15 kids in my class. [00:24:06] Speaker B: Wow. [00:24:06] Speaker A: And when, the way it works, there's, like, eight elementary schools in our school district. Three, like, four or five of them are all Amish. There's only three that have what they would. They call us the English. The English, like, we're British. They call us the English. Still German. We're all still of amish descent. Yeah. But, yeah, we're. We're like, one of. So we live on the east side of the county. There's also the west side. The west side is more, I guess you would say, a little more redneck, a little more, you know, they're still German, Swiss, but they're not as Amish over there. There's less Amish. There's more just like, farmers big agricultural area on our side, though. All of our friends amish ancestry. Like every single one of them. There were like six people I knew in high school and I was one of them, he was the other. And then there were like four more that had no amish relations. [00:24:56] Speaker B: Wow. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So everyone there is a yoder. A Miller amassed a Koblenz and like a Hirschberger. And our bassist is a. He's a yoda. He's of the descent. He's down here. Yeah, Ben. Yeah. So like everyone goes by their first name and then like their dad's name. So it's like, it's like Abe's David or Jeremiah's Levi. Because they're all. Because they're all yoders. You couldn't say Jeremiah Yoder. There's like 80 of them. Yeah, like I know like six Dave masts. I probably got like multiple Dave mast in my phone right now. That, and they're all different guys. [00:25:36] Speaker B: That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. See, I grew up around like a community that's like very traditional. In New York. We have a very large population of orthodox. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Orthodox Jews. [00:25:47] Speaker B: Orthodox Jews and Hasidic Jews. And my dad is from Maine originally. So when my dad and my mom first started dating, my mom brought my dad down to New York and my dad had to asked my mom, why are the Amish driving? He thought the city Jews were Amish because of the beards and the hats. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we call Amish Jews with straw hats. [00:26:08] Speaker B: It's a very traditional lifestyle. And like from the outside looking in, it's like, what are you doing? But I guess like the culture of like beliefs and stuff like that. So what's it like going to school with? [00:26:18] Speaker A: Oh, there's folks. They were great. The Amish love baseball. They play slow pitch softball. But they are some of the. Yeah, we have this huge tournament. Our town is tiny. I mean, it is. It's not even incorporated. We don't have a mayor. We got a little green sign. And that's the only way, you know, you got a sign at the cemetery. We got a little green sign. If you missed that, you wouldn't even know it was a town. But we have a baseball field. It's a nice baseball field. And every year we have a huge softball tournament. And I am telling you, they put bleachers everywhere. There are like three, 4000 people that come to town. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Sounds like field of dreams. Like if you. They will come. [00:26:58] Speaker A: You know it. Our dads on the park board and they just built another field. Yeah. And they do come. They come in droves. Like when COVID hit. Everyone's supposed to be shut down. Baseball 3000 Amish just sitting in there. And they don't wear masks. They don't back park the horse and. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Park the horse and bug. [00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Or the battery bikes are Walmart. [00:27:22] Speaker B: What's a bad battery bikes? [00:27:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So, okay, we're gonna get into amish culture for you here. [00:27:27] Speaker B: All right, let's do it. [00:27:28] Speaker A: There are multiple sects of the Amish church. The most, you know, you read about the Amish at school and stuff, and it. Because we. We had Amish as part of our curriculum. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I would imagine. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Which is hilarious because we're, like, growing up, and every time they talked about, we're like this. Like, this is not what the Amish are like at all. Society has painted it, like, they're these really strict, like, almost hateful indignation, you know, like righteous indignation of the Amish. Like, they're not like that. They're just normal. They're just mostly normal people that don't drive cars. The oldest Amish, the ones that are truly, like, what you've read in a book, they're called shorts and troopers. Bare feet. Bare feet. And, like, they. The tr. You know how they have, like, the tractor triangle. Yeah. Buggies. They don't have that. They're not even allowed to have triangles. They have no electricity. They still plow their fields with a horse or a mule. They like everything there. No electric, no gas. Like, it's very, very traditional. They don't really like inner, inner, inner. Intertwine with the rest of us. They kind of are secluded. It's. I don't want to say sound rude. It's a little more of like, that's the more culty side of the Amish, where you're kind of like, this is a little strange, but they're just very traditional. And then there's danners, the Danner Amish, the Dan. [00:28:47] Speaker B: They're just like the Dan band. [00:28:50] Speaker A: Yeah, the Dan band. They're like the shorts and troopers. They can't have much stuff, but they are allowed to keep money. They have a lot of money. They just have big businesses. They get a ton of money, and they buy a ridiculous amount of land. So they're very wealthy, and they have tons of land. Land is so expensive in Holmes county because they buy it all. [00:29:09] Speaker B: There you go. [00:29:09] Speaker A: They buy so much land. Then there is the new order Amish. And this is where it gets confusing. The. The new order Amish. They're the mainline Amish, I guess you would call them. They had a split. The new order Amish split off from the mainline Amish because the main line of Amish were getting a little too, I guess you would call it progressive for them. Oh, they got into the phones and the battery bikes and whatever, and they split. And so now the new order Amish, they're a little more traditional. They can have less stuff, but they're still not like the schwarzies or the danners. And then there's the old order Amish, which are the most progressive of them all. They've got these things called battery bikes. And it's just a bike, but it's got a battery on it. Like, it literally just a battery bike. Those things will go 40, 50 miles an hour. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Have you guys driven battery bikes? [00:29:58] Speaker A: I've ridden on them a few times. They are fast. They are. And it's bad because you'll be, like, driving down the road, you know, you have to deal with this all the time. Anytime you hop in the car, you're passing buggies. We have curbs that are, like, wider than the span of my arms because they want the buggies to stay on that curb so that you can pass them without having to, like, veer over into the left lane. But sometimes you'll be, like, taking a right hand turn and there will be a bike in the curb. And you just assume it's going, like, 10 miles an hour because it's a bike. And so you're ready to turn. That thing will just zip right past you. You gotta smack your brakes because this thing's going, like, 35 miles an hour down a hill. [00:30:39] Speaker B: Sounds like the lime scooters that we have here. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it's very similar, but faster. Oh, way faster. They fly, but, I mean, no, the Amish, if you talk to the real intelligent Amish, they'll be like, yeah, we no longer have any, like, real solid theological ties to what we do. You know, it used to be that they had, like, their scriptural evidence for why they're amish, because they are christian. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:05] Speaker A: But now it's more. I think that's just like, look, if we all get cars and we start working in Akron or Cleveland or canton or Maslin or wherever, and people start moving away, we're going to lose that community. And they. They make a ton of money. The tourism is huge. Yeah, they're hard workers. Like, amish cabinetry on it, amish furniture, amish houses. [00:31:28] Speaker B: My girlfriend recently got a big handmade swing set. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Yep. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Made by a company, an amish group that's in Kentucky. [00:31:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Business. And that's some big business. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's what they all do, because they've been doing this for years, and they are really hard workers. They do everything very, very well. Like, it's not cheaply made. It's made really well. And they just recognize that, like, look, if we get cars and we move away and we become like everyone else, we're going to lose that. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:58] Speaker A: And they're right. If they. If they all started going to college, they'd make less money than they do graduating the 8th grade. I've got a friend from elementary school, really smart kid in elementary school, graduated in 8th grade. His dad owns a huge lumber operation. I mean, it's massive. I got to think millions and millions of dollars coming through there every year. Millions? Millions. I don't know how many. Probably tens of millions. And he runs the entire it department with an 8th grade education. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Wow. [00:32:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Which makes you think, like, what are we really doing going to four years of high school if this amish kid can code? Like, he probably took, like, a six month course, and now he's full time it. Dude, you know, it's cyber security type stuff. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Do you think some of that, like, hardworking, like, traditional value kind of stuff has rubbed off on you guys? I think. I think I see you guys grinding with the music stuff and the fact you guys are able to do what you're doing at a young age and. And get the opportunities that you're able to get and be putting out the amount of music. The amount of music that you guys have been able to put out. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:03] Speaker B: And teasing the stuff on social media. Cause social media is a grind, and you boys do a very, very good job. That's what. That's where Ryan Newman's when he talked about you guys, which shout out to Ryan and the ember sound. Gotta love Ryan. Ryan was like, have you heard of these Logat boys? And I'm like, I think so. But he's like, look them up on Instagram. He's like, if there are any kids that are, like, the raised rowdy, kind of, like, that are raised rowdy and, like, fun and have their bits that they do and put out good music. Like, I'm working with these kids, and I really believe in them. You should check them out. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Out. [00:33:36] Speaker B: And, yeah, you guys are always posting stuff. You're always. You're just always on the grind. Like, I feel like that work ethic would rub off on you. [00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. And you know, my dad, he comes. He was born in Rittmann, which is like 40 minutes away. He actually grew up with the apostolics, which I won't even. They're very similar to the Amish. They're actually. It's funny, if you bring up the apostolics to an amish person, they'll laugh and say, oh, those people are hardcore. Because, like, my. My dad employ some am. Some apostolic guys. They're very smart and hardworking Swiss, kind of like the Amish. They won't even watch tv. Like, they won't even look at a tv. Yeah, well, they still drive cars and, like, wear normal clothes. Yeah. You won't be able to tell the difference. But, yeah, they, like, if they're in a bar and there's a tv on, they'll sit with their back to the tv. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Wow. [00:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, so my dad got some of that hard work, and that has rubbed off on us. You have to grind in this industry. And, you know, unfortunately, like, we got a lot of friends that super talented, and they just don't want to do social media. And we're like, that was me. Well, yeah. And then he told I, like, I'm an old guy already, and I was against phones, against TikTok and everything. And he's like, well, this is what we have to do. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:52] Speaker A: And I was like, finally I was. I decided to join the grind and. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I want to pull up and see. Because you guys have some good numbers on social media right now, too, right? Like, you guys have been growing this shit. [00:35:03] Speaker A: We've been, yeah. I mean, it's tough for us because we don't have that budget to, like, go out and shoot a bunch of music videos, you know? But we do it. We can. With what we've got, you know? [00:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Making music. You can show your friends that hate country since 2020. I love that. [00:35:22] Speaker A: I love that. [00:35:23] Speaker B: So you guys got started in 2020, like, during the pandemic, huh? [00:35:26] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, we've obviously. We've been playing instruments for a long. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Time, but the logout thing started in COVID. [00:35:32] Speaker A: It start. Well, it's funny. It started right before COVID We played our first show a few months before together, and then COVID hit, and it was, like, shut down, and we didn't even have the name log app yet. That was when we were still the Johnson brothers, which is totally generic. Yeah. You know, but that makes sense. [00:35:50] Speaker B: I mean, it's like the family. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Well, it was a local thing. Everyone know who knows who we were. So we were just like, yeah. You know, like, a lot of people, they would just say, gus and Finn Johnson are playing here tonight. Come on out. [00:36:01] Speaker B: You know, where was that first gig at? [00:36:03] Speaker A: Ah, sheesh. Oh, it's definitely the square in Berlin. No, it wasn't. It was the army Navy garrison. Yeah. Like. Like, basically a VFW. Yeah. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Oh, cool. [00:36:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:20] Speaker B: That seems very fitting, because the VFW culture of you. You guys probably haven't had the opportunity to go because you're. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Well, I. It's funny, I've actually. [00:36:28] Speaker B: You in East Nashville. [00:36:29] Speaker A: Oh, no, I haven't got it. [00:36:30] Speaker B: The American Legion in East Nashville. And it's like. I call it the hipster hoedown, because it's, like, East Nashville. So it's like, all the hipsters wearing, like, cowboy hats and getting super western and then, like, two stepping, and then it's like, bands. They had some band from Italy come in and play that, like, yodeling and shit. It was crazy, dude. It was crazy. But, like, the VFWs and the american legions are such, like. Are such, like, a common starting point for guys and girls starting out doing music, and they give opportunities, and it really is that, like, small town. [00:37:03] Speaker A: That's a small town, great american bar scene. The VFWs, we've played in a number of them. I've got some friends that are in the army that were former army and stuff, so I've gone to some VFW events with them, so I've been to a few vfws a handful of times, and I love them. I wish we still did bars like that. You know, like, you walk in, they got the old slot machines on the side, and, you know, they got the pull tabs. [00:37:33] Speaker B: Old school degeneracy. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, like the dollar pull tabs. And then they got, like, that little bar, and it's always just, like, bush light coors light domestics. Domestic, baby. And it. And everyone there just has a fun time, and everyone's got that sort of small town mindset. And, like, I. Look, I love. I do love the cool, like, inner city bars that do new stuff. But, like, more often than not, the one thing I miss in Cincinnati when I'm surrounded by great food and really cool bars is sometimes I'm just like, you know, I just want to, like, go to an old style bar, like, a VFW, sit down and talk to some old fart that's got a bunch of experience and eat, like, a half pound cheeseburger, you know, that stuff's great. Vfws are phenomenal. [00:38:20] Speaker B: Yeah. What was that first gig like for you guys? I'm guessing it was just so. It was just acoustic duo. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Acoustic duo. That was before Finn had the long hair. I was skinny as a rail. I can't. We were opening for my uncle's band. He had, like. And, like, an old rock band. They did AC DC covers and stuff. [00:38:39] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Yeah, the Army Navy garrison. Yeah, that was a fun one. Yeah, it was a ton of fun. Oh, yeah. [00:38:47] Speaker B: That's sick. That leads you guys to where you're at. Where you're at now. Like, what are the. What is the. The show circuit, like, been, like, for you guys now? Because you start in COVID. That's a tough time to get a band. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Well, you know, surprisingly, but also a good time. Yeah, we could grind. We could. We practiced a ton. And better yet, when the COVID ended, everybody was back to square one with live music. No one. You know, these bars, they were. A lot of them shut down and new ones opened, and so there were lots of people looking for live music that had never booked anyone before. And so, I mean, we just called a lot of bars, and we were like, hey, let us in here. The first bar that really gave us a chance is this winery in Loudonville, Ohio. If you're ever in amish country, you got to go. They. They actually have beer that they brew on tap, we call them, and we're like, hey, we looking for a gig? And they're like, hey, come in. We're going to pay you $200, and if you're good, we'll invite you back. And to this day, they're the only bar we've never raised the price on because they were the first one that gave us a shot. We played there, like, five or six times a year, and they're phenomenal. It's called the ugly bunny. [00:39:53] Speaker B: And the ugly bunny. [00:39:54] Speaker A: The ugly bunny. [00:39:55] Speaker B: I feel like we have to. Nikki T. And I have to take it. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Absolutely. Hey, let us know when you're in Ohio, and we'll call them and set up a little log app set. We'll do the old style acoustic duo. [00:40:07] Speaker B: That'd be awesome. [00:40:08] Speaker A: It's great. It's such a great winery, everyone there's lovely. The wine. It's a sweet wine, and it's pretty good. And they have, like, some ipas on tap that they brew in house. Everything is made there. And if you're, like, a craft beer guy, you probably enjoy that. If you're just, like, a great american pilsner dude, you might not like it so much, but the wine. You know, they do the wine slush. [00:40:30] Speaker B: I want to go because of the name. Like, I want to have an ugly bunny trucker hat. I want an ugly. [00:40:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they said they sell merch. [00:40:35] Speaker B: I was going to say I have to come up and get some ugly bunnies. [00:40:38] Speaker A: It's actually. Their logo's hilarious. It's a bunny with like, a wine bag over its head. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Oh, that's great. [00:40:44] Speaker A: It's. It's. It's great. It's. It's phenomenal place. [00:40:48] Speaker B: That's awesome. So do you, have you guys gotten to get into the club scene yet in Ohio or Kentucky? [00:40:54] Speaker A: We. Yeah, it depends on what you define as a club. I mean, we're not like, playing huge nightclubs, I guess, like, clubs are like. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Are you guys, like, opening for folks? [00:41:03] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. We're in that side of the club scene. I don't know, it's. It's gotten weird. Live music's gotten very strange. Like, it's. It's not. At least in Ohio, it's not like the LA clubs or even the Nashville clubs. You got these pop up areas basically, like, similarly to, like, the dusty Armadillo. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Like that style. That's what I mean by club. Yeah, dusty rooms. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I would call it more of like a concert hall. Yeah, see, we. [00:41:34] Speaker B: We call those clubs, like, to me, concert halls, dance halls. Anything that's not like an arena or theater is a club. [00:41:41] Speaker A: I. We. I just always call them music halls. I don't know if that's an Ohio thing, music halls, then. [00:41:48] Speaker B: You guys getting to do like, opening slots and. Yes, it calls and stuff. A couple. [00:41:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we're. So we just got a new manager in Pittsburgh, actually. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Oh, awesome. [00:41:56] Speaker A: And she's been setting up a lot of that stuff. [00:41:59] Speaker B: Love to see the Pittsburgh Connection. [00:42:00] Speaker A: I love Pittsburgh. [00:42:01] Speaker B: That's. That's where this stuff started. That's where raised rabbit started. So we love. Have you guys gotten to do. Go over there and do, like, jergles and, like, some of those rooms yet? [00:42:10] Speaker A: I haven't. We haven't been in jerggles. We did Thunderbird. [00:42:13] Speaker B: Oh, cool. [00:42:14] Speaker A: Last week. We've done. What was the name of the one we did with Club cafe. Club cafe, yeah. So, yeah, a lot of the, like, max cap. Six to 800 people. [00:42:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Dude, that's a great circuit for you boys to be on right now. [00:42:27] Speaker A: That's perfect. [00:42:28] Speaker B: It's where you're going to cut your teeth and you're going to start by opening and then get to the point of. Of headlining. As the stuff grows and people always talk about, like, in the south, like, people like the Georgia boys, they play the college towns in Georgia, and then the circle just continues to grow and the radius grows until it's the whole dang country. And I think you guys have the ability to do that through Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia. [00:42:52] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the goal. That's 100%. [00:42:55] Speaker B: You can do a tour of Morgantown to Pitt. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. We played Morgantown. [00:42:59] Speaker B: Motown's wild. [00:43:00] Speaker A: I love it. We got a buddy down here. He's awesome. Yeah. No Motown, man. Are you familiar with Tucker Nizel? [00:43:11] Speaker B: I am not. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Hey, he's this dude. He's a Morgantown kid. He's got, like, three songs out, but great. Phenomenal songwriter. His live show is fun, baby. He's got steel guitar. Chris bias, man. Reed Connolly. Time steel. [00:43:26] Speaker B: Oh, no shit. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:43:28] Speaker A: And Reed. Reed is a phenomenal guy. Shout out to Reed. He set us up with our manager. [00:43:32] Speaker B: Wow. Okay. Awesome, dude. That's a good, that's a good connection to have. [00:43:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. No, Reed is so. He's one of the kindest men I've ever met. Zach Bryant is not lying when he introduces him as the kindest guy I've ever met. Reed, that's 100% true. You won't find a nicer guy in planet Earth. He's so kind. And he set us up with Danielle, our manager. He taught this kid Chris by us. He plays steel for Tucker Nazelle. He plays steel for a lot of Morgantown people. Wow. And hopefully we're going to have him playing with us a little bit in the future. He did two songs with us in Morgantown. We recorded with Zach McChord. He, he did that new Philip Bowen album. [00:44:14] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:44:15] Speaker A: He's also got a few cuts with, uh, Charles Wesley. Godwin is a songwriter. [00:44:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you guys are coming. It's really cool to see different acts come up and, like, different scenes. [00:44:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:26] Speaker B: And right now, everybody, like, Georgia's had its moment, I think. And there's south. Georgia's got some cool stuff coming up right now with guys like Gavin Adcock. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Gavin Adcock, baby. [00:44:38] Speaker B: One of our boys. Gavin Adcock. Landon Smith. You got kids like Will Moses and Cole Goodwin. [00:44:44] Speaker A: Megan Maroney's from Georgia. [00:44:45] Speaker B: Maroney, Georgia. She's a former, former guest on the show. [00:44:48] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:44:49] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, we had, we had Megan on very early. [00:44:52] Speaker A: Great. [00:44:52] Speaker B: She's fantastic. One of the nice. Really, really good. Really good. Sweet girl. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:44:58] Speaker B: But it's cool seeing, like, georgia and Alabama like, those are scenes that I've gotten really tied to through my, my employers of the. Working with the muscadines, working with the. Trey Lewis, seeing, like, ella Lang, seeing, like, ella Langley come up, seeing Trey Lewis come up, watching what Gary and Charlie doing. But Appalachia is having a damn moment right now. And when you guys say Appalachia, it stretches into eastern Ohio. [00:45:22] Speaker A: We're. We're homes county is considered an appalachian county. [00:45:25] Speaker B: It's more than just West Virginia and the western side of Virginia. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's more. Yeah, it's more than just that. And that style of music been adopted by guys that aren't and girls that aren't even from that area, but are from different parts. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Zach Bryan's got a lot of appalachian flare, man. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Barber, bro. There's. [00:45:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, there's kids from Illinois, I think. [00:45:47] Speaker B: Yeah, there's kids that are coming up out of all different places, but to see, like, Charles waving the flag right now of Charles and bringing Kevin, guys that are from the region in the allegheny. And the. What is it? The Allegheny eight. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Allegheny High. [00:46:01] Speaker B: Allegheny high. Excuse me. And now it's like you guys are like the kids that are coming out of Appalachia right now. It's like. It's like you guys. It's like Maggie Antone. It's like there's all these sounds. I'd even throw SJ. MacDonald in there, too. Now is the time where that style of music, it's always been there, but the national spotlight hasn't always been on it. And now the eyes are on Appalachia style. Country music, yes. Varies in style to where it can be something more traditional. It could be a blend of traditional and rocking. Like, you boys are like. It can be a few different things, but, like, the perfect time for a band like Logap to come up out of. Out of eastern Ohio. [00:46:46] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:46:47] Speaker B: Right now. And it gets me pumped up. [00:46:51] Speaker A: We were psyched. And, you know, it's funny you say, like, you know, appalachian, a lot of people, Tyler Childers, they think it's just Tyler Childers. Look, I love Tyler Childers, but, like, Sturgill, man. Sturgill rocks Sunday best. I don't know if you're familiar. [00:47:07] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, very much. They're close with the. Close with Gary and Charlie. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, dude, those guys rock. I mean, in Nicholas Jamerson, he does a solo thing. Now. He rocks. I mean, like, it's not all just bluegrass, man. There's some. There's some electric stuff going on in Appalachia, and I think people just got to wake up and be like, okay. Oh, they're waking up. Oh, they are. That's what you were saying. Sounds like Texas. I mean, it sounds like Texas when you had cross canadian ragweed and, you know, even like, co Wetzel and stuff like that where you got this driving fiddle. You've got heavy electric and it's starting to rock. And I love it. [00:47:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I fucking love it, too, dude. And even, like, a name we forgot to mention, Oliver Anthony. You talk about, like, appalachia. Talk about the world looking at. At somebody. And then there's what. There's, like, there's the Jake cones. There's, like, all just names popping out. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Brennan Edwards. [00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah, Brennan Edwards. Shout out to Brennan. Yeah. Like, there's just so much coming out right now. So it's like, even. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Even New York, man. [00:48:14] Speaker B: We. [00:48:14] Speaker A: Zach and I. You met Zach last night. Phenomenal producer. We produced a song for a guy named Kurt Buchanan. Buchan. Buchan. Yeah, Buchan. And this kid, he's from Upper New York. Appalachian. New York. [00:48:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's. [00:48:27] Speaker A: People don't realize it. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Bear Mountain. And it goes in through the Adirondacks and the Catskills and all that does. I've hiked. I've hiked those trails. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:35] Speaker B: That's because where I grew up, about 30, 40 minutes outside New York City. But we have the. The at runs through my county. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:44] Speaker B: And it's like, you can see from those mountain peaks, you can see the New York City skyline. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:49] Speaker B: Crazy how big Appalachia is. [00:48:52] Speaker A: It goes all the way up through New York into Vermont. [00:48:55] Speaker B: I mean, all the way up in the main. Yeah. Georgia. [00:48:58] Speaker A: It goes into Canada. There's parts of Canada with appalachian mountains and people don't even know it because. Associated with, like, East Tennessee, East Kentucky, West Virginia. But like, yeah, Kurt, dude. Kurt Buchan. Nobody knows who he is yet. [00:49:10] Speaker B: I'm gonna look him up. How do I spell it? I'm gonna get on that. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Follow curtcurt. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Oh, it's Kurt with a c. Yeah. [00:49:19] Speaker A: And then Buch a n. And he's got, like, two or three songs out. [00:49:24] Speaker B: I produced Arizona. All right. Yeah, I see you following him. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he moved to Arizona recently and I've produced a few of his. Or just that one song, just throw. [00:49:32] Speaker B: Me in the mountains with some music and my friends, like, that's his inst. Thing on instagram. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Like, all you. All you guys just have cool fucking little sayings on your shit right now, too. [00:49:43] Speaker A: Like everybody's. [00:49:44] Speaker B: Everybody's got their little. Their little branding and everything. So, this week's a big week for you boys, because you're driving across the country from the midwest down to some people. House. Yeah, down to Tejas. Have you guys been down to Texas before? [00:49:57] Speaker A: No, first time, baby. So, what. [00:49:59] Speaker B: What is all this south by southwest entail? Because this is a. That's a festival that people around the world know, and that's bigger than just music. That's all kinds of stuff. [00:50:10] Speaker A: We, so, this. Danielle set this all up. She's with Keystone artist connect. That's the name of her brand. They. They've got a few small acts in Pittsburgh, and she's worked with some people that, like. She is. She's. There's two types of managers. I'm sure you know all this, but I guess people listening might not. Um, you got the manager that has a lot of connections and is really big, and then you got this smaller connection, you know, manager that. They might not have all those connections, but they're willing to put in the work. Danielle, she's smaller, but I'll tell you what. She gets on Facebook, she gets on LinkedIn, and she meets people that we need to meet. I mean, she's meeting with, like, racing people about Eldora. Behind the scenes. She set this. She set up showcases. We're doing a showcase in Arlin Studios. They're launching Keystone, Texas. They started a new brand over there. So this is the biggest one. They've got, like, hundreds of industry people coming to that. We want. I mean, we want a booking agent. That's what we want right now. We want to play shows full time, opening for people, because, you know, in my opinion, that's all that's left to do before we start taking off. You know, we've gotten the social media algorithms down as long. If we can just get more shows. I think people just haven't heard our live set yet. It's different from what's on. Well, you saw it. [00:51:31] Speaker B: I saw it last night, and I saw, like, a pretty condensed version of it and appreciate you guys doing that, because it could have been easy for you guys to just throw you on some writers round and have you two up there doing the acoustic thing. But the full band thing, dude, it goes hard. The guys you have up there with you, and I love how you have a team with you. You. I love how you have a guy. You have. You have a merch guy. You have somebody helping out with the driving. You've got. You've got somebody taking photos and stuff. Like, you guys have. Like, this is legit. You guys are touring right now. You guys are on tour right now. [00:52:05] Speaker A: And, yeah, mini tour, literally. You're driving. [00:52:09] Speaker B: You're driving around, you're playing shows, you're doing media things like this. Like, you're playing showcases, and then you're going to one of the biggest festivals in the world. Like, this is low. Gap is on tour in 2024, and we're very lucky that it's coming through Nashville well. [00:52:24] Speaker A: And we. We want this to be a full time thing. And, you know, I think Finn agrees with me. Our live set, it's way different from what our music is on streaming. [00:52:35] Speaker B: And I like that. I like the recorded music, but I love the live show. That's you. People can become fans. Like, I'll be honest. And I get. I get shit from this when I say it or for this. I always say, like, I didn't quite understand the Zach Bryan thing. I didn't for a long time. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Then you went to a show. [00:52:52] Speaker B: Then I went to a show, and Nikki T and I was at rock the south in Alabama, and Nikki T and I were like, okay, we'll see what this is all about. And then from the first fricking downbeat, those kids went nuts. And we're like, this is like Dave Matthews, and it's like the hype of, like, fgl, like, bro country, where it's like, girls on dude shoulders and dudes on dude should. It's for the bros. It's for the girls. Like, the live show was so much more than just the recorded music. [00:53:20] Speaker A: Yes. [00:53:20] Speaker B: That with you guys last night where. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Yes. [00:53:22] Speaker B: You guys closed it out. Closing it out last night. You guys fucking ripping your hat, going flying like, it was freaking awesome. It was awesome. [00:53:31] Speaker A: And, you know, you make a great point. And I've talked to people about this who know more than me about it. You know, anyone can we live in a day and age? Anybody can go viral. We've gone viral before. We had Grady talk about her song, and that was a huge stream booster. But look, you're not going to keep those fans until they see that live show, and they love it. [00:53:50] Speaker B: That's the product. [00:53:51] Speaker A: That's the product. That's what people really want. They want to connect. And Zach Ryan, I mean, you listen to him, dude. Like, revival on the album, it's kind of slow. Not one of his best songs. Like, I don't really listen. I'm. I can't tell you the last time I listened to the recorded version of revival. You hear that song live. Ah, it's a moment. [00:54:11] Speaker B: It's a moment. [00:54:12] Speaker A: It's a moment, and that's like us, you know, mockingbird. Finn had an electric mandolin playing mockingbird last night. You know, that's different. That's totally different, Eldora. I mean it. Ryan did a phenomenal job recording that, but I don't think you can fully appreciate that song until you've seen us play it live, because that's when we go hard on it. You know, this is something incredibly important that, like, the live scene in country is bigger. It's the best live scene of any genre of music ever. [00:54:41] Speaker B: That's coming from a guy that listens to old time rock and roll. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Yeah, everything. I listen to everything. I mean, but, I mean, like, look, we're in such a. An over industrialized world that sounds like something philosophical, sounds like something George Orwell would say. [00:54:55] Speaker B: You sound like an appalachian preacher right now. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Everything is. Goes through a series of. It's just all created. Everything is processed. Everything sounds so processed. We live in this mediazed world. What's the digitalized world? Everything around you kind of seems a little fake anymore. It's things online. They aren't necessarily real. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:20] Speaker A: And music, especially. I mean, we have AI now that can make. [00:55:23] Speaker B: That. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Can write it. We've done it before. Like, we did it as a joke. Like Zach Bryan song on AI. They do it pretty well, but you can't really tell online what's real and fake anymore, and you're kind of losing the humanity of music and art itself. We have an authenticity crisis. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. But nothing will ever top the energy and the humanity of a live country show. I mean, maybe one day we'll be ruled by robots, and we'll have Skynet over us all, but robots will not be able to play guitar. Like, you know, Zach's guys. They're not gonna be able to play pedal steel like Reed Connolly, and there's not gonna be that sort of connection that you have. Watching that and being in a room with thousands of other people all vibing to the same song. That is an experience that cannot be created by. Cannot be synthesized by a program, by an algorithm. That's something you cannot recreate online. And that's why live performances is. It's our salvation, essentially, in humanity. We have to bring the rest of the world, because only country people understand how awesome country shows are. We got to bring the rest of the world on board. Hey, country music's having a 1990s moment right now, and it's the coolest place to be. [00:56:53] Speaker B: I'd even go back to 19. I'd even go 1970s, 1980s without lol. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Outlaw. And it's guys doing it independently doing it the way they want to do. [00:57:03] Speaker A: It a hundred percent. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Because I think, and it's funny, I think social media ties into that because I think it's, I think it's where folks can, folks can find a band like low gap and out a label pushing. [00:57:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And, you know, I think a lot of people hate on the Nashville way the labels look. You know, they've gotten really smart. There's a lot of young people that the old, the old wave is leaving. Yes. And now you've got guys like, I don't know if you've ever met him. John Owen Bradley, great grandson of the Owen Bradley, the father of modern production, I guess not really modern production, but the father of country music production, the Bradley brothers. John, this guy can, he is just so smart. He knows, look, this is authentic. This is what we need to do. He can shoot a music video from his phone. He shot. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Wow. [00:57:58] Speaker A: I'm going to send you. He shot Eddie in the getaway. [00:58:02] Speaker B: Oh, I love those guys. I love Eddie. [00:58:03] Speaker A: He shoots Eddie in the getaways music videos on an iPhone. And I think he edits them on his iPhone. And you have no idea that that wasn't a $20,000 music video. And it's just Jon Owen Bradley in the back with this phone out of sip. I mean, he's like, what's that thing that, the gimbal or whatever? He's a human giblet. The dude holds the phone in his waist and, and he like, rotates like this. It's crazy. You got young people like that that come in and they look at these artists and when it used to be, we're going to change this to match what we're looking for. It's now we're going to go find these people that are authentic and we're just going to hand them money and they're going to make us money. [00:58:42] Speaker B: We're going to put gas on the fire. [00:58:43] Speaker A: We're going to put gas on the fire and we're going to treat it like an investment. And we're not going to go crazy and change everything they're doing. And it's made music so much better in country. So much better. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I would. I would 100% agree with that. So you shout out, like, Eddie in the getaway and like, other, like, new artists who are some folks that you guys kind of identify like homies with. Because you guys, because you guys are out. You guys aren't down here all the time. You're back home in Ohio. You're in Cincinnati. You're still running the FFA in your hometown. Who are some, like, homies. You got, like, doing the music thing? [00:59:19] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we got a. We got a lot now. I mentioned Tucker and Azelle, and I mentioned Kurt. There's a guy that. The guy in Nashville that I really, really love. There's this dude named Chris. Chris Chapman. [00:59:30] Speaker B: He's Chappie. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah, we know chappie, dude. Yes. It's funny. We were. We were playing, I want to say whiskey jam or something. We can't get into any bars, but we got into the taco Bell cantina. [00:59:46] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:59:46] Speaker A: And he was playing, and he played the waffle house song. And I'm like, okay, this. [00:59:50] Speaker B: This is. [00:59:50] Speaker A: Guy is phenomenally talented. This is not just your normal Broadway guy doing covers. He was playing with Kevin Moon, and they were both really, really good. And so we. We walked up to him at the end, and we're connected with him now. I. I love chaffee, dude. His stuff is. [01:00:04] Speaker B: First time I met Chappie, he opened up for. When I was on the road with Trey Lewis. Yeah, he opened up for Trey at a mud bog in Alabama, logging on the plains. A mud park. Yeah, he opened for us there. And that was where I first got connected to Jeffrey. [01:00:18] Speaker A: He's great. And then, like, we. We've talked with muscadine a little bit. Those guys are really, really great. Tyler Halverson. Tyler's the guy that set us up with Ryan. And it's funny how that happened. Cause Finn and I, we've had issues with producers in the past. Not necessarily that they were bad, just that they couldn't really find our vision. And we're like, look, who. Who do we kind of want to sound like, tonally, sonically, who are we similar to? And the first two guys we said was Muscadine and Tyler. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:48] Speaker A: And so you were right. You were right. And I texted Tyler, and I'm like, hey, man, who do you use as your producer? He's like, ryan. I'm like, sweet. So I looked up Ryan. Oh, he's muscadine producer, too. This is perfect. This is the guy. I hit him up and we recorded with him. Couldn't have done a better job. I'm sure we're going to go back to him soon and do some more stuff, but, yeah, I mean, awesome. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like Tyler and Muscadine are both, like, unique styles as well. Yeah, muscadine. Those guys are like big brothers to me. Charlie and Gary, they gave me my first opportunity to go out on the road and I wouldn't be where I'm at today as a corner of raised rowdy without them, you know? Yeah, they got me out of the bars when I was bouncing. Like, they got me on the road slinging t shirts. And that era of Musk and I'm pre COVID was different than the era musk. And they're in now. Like they're not afraid to go in and make records and create different chapters through their records, which is very old time. Kind of like rock and roll. I love it where you develop like, you see guys like Eric Church develop like different things like that. Yeah, but they do it their own fucking way. And Tyler, man, the western american music world, bro, Tyler's been wondering. He's been a. They both, both of them have been like recurring guests. I've had them both on a few times and seeing what Tyler's doing and his sound so unique. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:06] Speaker B: And it not just being adopted by Nashville, but being adopted by LA in New York. [01:02:11] Speaker A: He's been adopted by normal people. Like he's been adopted by the, you know, the middle american beer drinking dude. Yeah, he's been adopted by the pot smoking hippies. He's been adopted by the hipsters in LA. Yeah, it's hard to not like his music. [01:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah, and that's like what you guys have in your TikTok by like making. Making country music to show your friends that hate country. That hate country. [01:02:36] Speaker A: That's our mission statement, man. [01:02:38] Speaker B: Yeah, and I think it's a great mission statement to have because you wanna appeal to. You wanna, you want. I don't wanna say like sounding like you wanna appeal to like everybody's like kinda like commercial like. So. But you want your music to be more than just one genre. You want your music to be low gap. [01:02:57] Speaker A: Yes. [01:02:57] Speaker B: More than just country music. [01:02:58] Speaker A: Yes. [01:02:59] Speaker B: Just like Tyler and Muskadine are. Muscadine Bloodline and Tyler Halverson. They appeal to more than just the average country fan. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Exactly. And that's why we went with Brian, because we felt like, look, Muscadine and Tyler, we both kind, we have similar sounds and they have similar sounds, but they're all unique. And we don't want to be the next turnpike. As great as those guys are. We want to be the next Logap. We want other people to say, I want to be like Logap. We don't want to be compared to someone else. And Ryan really, you know, for. He's brilliant in many, many ways. But I think what really sets Ryan apart from the other great producers is that Ryan, he can hear you. And he says, that's their sound. And that's when I'm going to chase and I'm going to track it. And that's. I mean, that's, that's why he's a. He's not just a great producer, he's the producer, you know? Yeah, that's. I think that's important. That's what he gets, right? [01:03:52] Speaker B: That's awesome. Where'd the name log up come from? [01:03:54] Speaker A: Got a little farm. Yeah. In southeast Ohio. The most appalachia of Ohio. Yeah, right on the river. And it's on low Gap, Jericho. Low gap road. [01:04:04] Speaker B: So that reminds me, we have buddies in Alabama, Shackelford Lane. They're a duo of brothers as well. [01:04:11] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:12] Speaker B: Will and Reed Shackelford and their families got like thousands of acres out in Autogaville, Alabama. And the name of the road is Shackelford Lane. So their duo is Shackelford Lane. And guess who their producer is. [01:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:33] Speaker B: It'S like. But it, but that, that to me is so cool because it's. It's you guys claiming where you're from. From you guys. [01:04:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:04:39] Speaker B: You guys are two brothers from Appalachia figuring it out, singing songs about where you guys are from. [01:04:46] Speaker A: That's what we do. Our family history. We like that. You know, that's. We got Appalachia in our blood, baby. We write about it. [01:04:54] Speaker B: So what's coming the rest of this year? What do we got? So we're on the way to south by southwest. What do the gigs look like down there? [01:05:00] Speaker A: So we're gonna have a gig Wednesday night. I can't remember. That's had a new bar. It's called like, Dusty D's or something like that. Brand new or. No, the dusty. Is it the dusty dillo? Something like that. It's a brand new bar. We're gonna play there. We're playing at Arlen Studios. This were Willie Nelson's recorded. [01:05:21] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah, and that's really cool. [01:05:23] Speaker B: There's your highwayman shit. [01:05:24] Speaker A: I know, man. [01:05:25] Speaker B: You're gonna freak out when you go. [01:05:28] Speaker A: It's a cool studio. And we're doing live shows in there. That's where key Stone is doing their opening, Texas opening. And I mean, they got some really good, great names in there. Jason, Eddie. Gabe Lee's playing. [01:05:40] Speaker B: I love. Tell Gabe. Tell Gabe we said hello. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Will do. [01:05:43] Speaker B: Gabe's a good friend that I used to have play. We used to have him play our writers nights at live. Okay. [01:05:47] Speaker A: He's great all the time during COVID. [01:05:48] Speaker B: He'D be up there with the. With the keyboard and doing his thing. Gabe's fantastic. [01:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah, he's great. [01:05:53] Speaker B: That's a good lineup to be on right there. [01:05:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Great. And then Saturday we got a, like a brunch show we're playing. [01:06:00] Speaker B: Oh, fun. [01:06:01] Speaker A: And then tonight's whiskey jam. So nice. Got four more. I'm. [01:06:04] Speaker B: I'm. [01:06:05] Speaker A: I'm excited for all of them. It's gonna be a great time. [01:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And then what are some goals for this year? We're just trying to get music. I know goals. I'm sound like the teacher in school right now. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, we want to get more music out. So we recorded with Zach McCord, and we got two songs done. Postcards and say a prayer are done with him. We're going to record waves Wednesday with Adam O'door in Texas. He did the big Dixie Chicks album. [01:06:32] Speaker B: Oh, cool. [01:06:33] Speaker A: He's done a lot across canadian ragweed. He's done a lot of Jason Boland. He does all the mike and the moon pies now, silverado stuff. He does all that. I think he's done every one of their albums. Maybe not the first, but phenomenal producer. We're excited to go work with him. We worked with him because we wrote waves with Keith Gaddis, and I told that story last night, but he knew Keith back in the day. They recorded some cross canadian stuff together, and so I was like, man, if we could get a producer. And it just happened to work out. We met him through Danielle, and he produced with Keith, and we're like, we want to do this Keith song with a guy that was buddies with Keith. And so Adam matched that, and he really wanted to produce it. He was like, I would love to produce this. [01:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think Tyler Halverson's most recent song he put out was written with. [01:07:21] Speaker A: Yes, it was written with Keith. [01:07:22] Speaker B: I did see that his legacy continue to live on. [01:07:26] Speaker A: He had such an impact with acts. [01:07:28] Speaker B: That are coming up like you guys and Tyler and I'm sure so many others. [01:07:32] Speaker A: Well, it's cool. Cause that, you know, he's written songs for George Strait. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:36] Speaker A: And he's written songs for kenny. Kenny Chesney covered one of his songs, and he did end up in Nashville doing a lot of huge stuff. But his roots are in Texas 100%. So seeing Texas guys and small artists who probably are more identifiable with what I think is really Keith's best work, which is the small stuff. He did those four songs on that Charlie Robison album, the stuff he produced that I think even though he might be better known for. I got a car with George Strait or something in the mainstream, he left a bigger mark in the independent stuff that we're doing right now. He opened those doors up more than just about anybody, and he didn't get enough recognition for it because he was an inner working of the industry. He had that solo album, and then he left to lead Dwight Yocomb's band. But he is huge. Like, the dude's influential in every sense in Texas, even Appalachia. He is one of the grandfathers of this independent country movement we've got now. So seeing guys that are independent releasing these songs, I feel like that's just the only way it should be done. [01:08:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:47] Speaker A: And I love to see it, honestly. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Absolutely. So this year, getting music out, getting a booking agent. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Getting a booking agent, that is the number one. That's the biggest goal. We want to be playing shows full time. I want a reason to drop out of college, man. [01:09:02] Speaker B: What are you studying? [01:09:03] Speaker A: Finance and music production. So I'm getting a little bit of music in with it, but want to. I want to leave. I want to go do music full. [01:09:11] Speaker B: Time to do the producer thing, like, help, like, working with acts as well, because I feel like that helps you with your own. [01:09:17] Speaker A: Oh, certainly. [01:09:18] Speaker B: I've heard Gary Stanton say that. [01:09:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He's a. He's a producer, and Zach, he's. He's Techie. Like, he knows how to produce. He knows how to record. Yeah, our drummer. Right? Yeah, yeah. And. And we also recorded with a Zach McCord. Yeah, yeah. And I'm trying to learned that, too. And my hope is that one day we'll just record our own stuff, and we can sit down for a week and get the song perfect and, you know. Yeah. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Take the time to record an album. [01:09:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Do the alt Torrance thing, because Al Torrance does all the Charles stuff. I would love to see Zach do our stuff in that manner and have us all have a say in the production, just as a group, and make it our own working. And we don't need any externals. We're just gonna do it the way that it needs to be done. Not that Ryan's done a bad job or Zach or Adam or all the producers we've had. I just want to, like, see, I. [01:10:09] Speaker B: Like the multiple producer thing because you guys are figuring out exactly what your sound is, and your sound is different things. Your sound has a little bit of Nashville in it. Your sound has the hometown Appalachia stuff in it, and it has Texas in it. So why not work with your. Your favorites of those guys? [01:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, we're working with the appalachian dude. We're working with the Nashville dude. We're about to. To do the Texas dude. [01:10:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And then different songs have that different sound because you guys aren't just one sound. You guys are a collective sound. [01:10:34] Speaker A: That is 100% loga, baby. Yeah. And, I mean, that's what we're doing. [01:10:38] Speaker B: We did flexing on him. [01:10:41] Speaker A: We did Winesberg and Virginia and you with Dwayne Lundy. He's recorded, like, ian. No, I think he did some culture. He's the lex. He's Alex. He's a Lexington guy. Very appalachian. If I got a real appalachian song, I can bring it to him. You know, if I got a more Nashville type feel, I can bring it to Ryan somewhere in between. Zach is perfect. If I got a texas thing, I can bring it to Adam, and it just. It gives us a lot of options. [01:11:03] Speaker B: Smart to do, man. That's smart to do. Dude, you guys are so far along for what your age is appreciated. Really, really cool, man. Like, I'm. I'm stoked we were able to do this this morning. [01:11:15] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. [01:11:16] Speaker B: I. One last thing. Have you guys been to a bucky's party before? [01:11:20] Speaker A: Yes. Wait, no, I haven't, actually. No. No. [01:11:23] Speaker B: All right, so you all are gonna be able to do that on this trip, because Buc ee's is based out of Texas, and they have them in between Nashville and Texas. Like, while you guys are driving, you will see them. And I wanna get. You have to text me or send me, like, a little video of your first bucky's expense. [01:11:38] Speaker A: Okay. We'll have to do it then. [01:11:40] Speaker B: It's a Walmart or, like, a rural king meets. Meets a. Meets a love and. [01:11:47] Speaker A: Unbelievable. [01:11:48] Speaker B: And the way you guys do your. Do your content and stuff, I'm very excited to see what. What your, um. What you guys come out with. [01:11:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to record that. [01:11:57] Speaker B: You guys are going to have some fun on this road trip. I'm excited. I'm excited to hear all about. I'm excited to follow along and. And all that. And I. I can't wait for the new music to come. And I'm. I'm super stoked to have met you guys and have you guys on the pod today and had you guys at Live Oak last night. And we'll. We'll definitely have to do. Do some more stuff anytime. You guys ever need anything here in Nashville or there's something that we can help with? You guys are in the raise rowdy family. Your ffa kids. You raise rowdy kids. Your Ohio boys like go cats like all that. But you guys are now in the. In the race rowdy family. [01:12:33] Speaker A: I love it. [01:12:33] Speaker B: Anything you boys ever need, you know, you've got some. Got some more. Some more friends, some more big brothers out here to look out for you. [01:12:40] Speaker A: Hey, and you guys gotta hit us up whenever you're in Ohio. [01:12:43] Speaker B: Dude. We might have to pop through. I forget the town that we stop in leading in the country concert. But Nick has friends all over Ohio and stuff. I think he's out in the. Out in the lobby. So you guys. You guys didn't really get to meet him a ton last night, did you? [01:12:57] Speaker A: No. [01:12:57] Speaker B: Yeah, he had two of our buddies, our good friend Corey Hunt, who's in Luke. Luke combs band. He's his keys player. [01:13:04] Speaker A: Okay. [01:13:04] Speaker B: And his wife is now wife Julia Kate Snow or Julia Kate Hunt, are. They got married in Colorado a couple weeks ago. They had their reception at the bar down the street from live out. They just ran out the whole bar and had all their homies come. So Nick was there last night, but he'll. He's supposed to be coming in here soon, so you guys will have to talk with him about. [01:13:26] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:13:28] Speaker B: People can follow you. It's low gap country, right? [01:13:31] Speaker A: Yeah, we're on. On Instagram. We're low. Underscore. Underscore gap. [01:13:35] Speaker B: Underscore. Underscore. [01:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah, double underscore. And then. Well, we're on TikTok, but we don't really post there very often. I've gotten very disheartened with TikTok. Yeah, it's got annoying. But we are on TikTok. We post occasionally. I think we're just logged there. [01:13:50] Speaker B: And you guys are on YouTube and stuff. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Yep. Just look us up on YouTube. All our music is everywhere. Wherever you stream music, just low gap. There's no other low gap, so we're not too hard to find. I'm proud to say we're now, like, the number one result on the Google search engine for low. The bourbon. The low gap bourbon is not beating us anymore. Yeah. Which I did have a buddy who was over 21 order a bottle of the low gap bourbon. I gave it to my dad for Christmas last year, and he liked it, so that's cool. [01:14:21] Speaker B: That's some Kentucky stuff right there. Well, Gus and Finn, I appreciate the hell out of you guys. Thank you, boys, for coming on and being on this outside the round episode. Safe travels, Texas. Good luck with whiskey jam tonight. [01:14:37] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:14:38] Speaker B: We're gonna try to make it out tonight. [01:14:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, dude. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Boys, it's funny. Whiskey row, where whiskey jam is at now was the bar I used to work at. [01:14:45] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:14:45] Speaker B: I used to work that front door and kick out drunks all night. [01:14:49] Speaker A: Full circle moments. Fun to go in there and see. [01:14:51] Speaker B: What'S doing and everything. But, guys, thank you so much for watching another episode of outside the round. Be sure to to check out the boys from Logap, Gus and Finn, and be on the lookout for shows up in the midwest. New music coming and, of course, content. And NASCar if you're watching, I know Danielle's work. [01:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah, NASCAR. Eldora Dora. [01:15:13] Speaker B: El Dora. El Dora. Do something with the song, please. I saw it live last night. Full band. And it was. [01:15:19] Speaker A: Hey, someone. Someone send this to Dale junior. Someone send this podcast episode to him. [01:15:23] Speaker B: Send us to Dale June. [01:15:24] Speaker A: Get us on dirty mo. [01:15:28] Speaker B: Appreciate all y'all for watching. Make sure you guys rate subscribe. Tell your mama and them. And if you guys want to find out more about us and what we do, look up raisedroudy.com for Gus and Finn. I'm Matt Barrel. This has been outside the round. [01:15:44] Speaker A: I never been the con for stick one place for two I ain't never been the best at sin I love you to a girl I love only. [01:15:56] Speaker B: Got a couple drinks on my sleeve. [01:15:59] Speaker A: They usually just make them leave so if you know me, if you really know me, you know I'm just a two trick pony but maybe the drinking and the lack of money for show I'm just a two trick trick on it yeah.