Graham Bunn

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Also, make sure you guys like rate, subscribe, tell your mama and them and for more details and, uh, to get in touch with the rest of the familia, visit ray rowdy.com. Now let's get into it. Outside the round with me, Matt Bell Raise. Rowdy podcast. Speaker 1 00:01:05 Come on. Speaker 2 00:01:08 This is Outside The Round with Matt Bell Raises Rowdy podcast. Speaker 0 00:01:17 What is going on everybody? Another edition of the out of, uh, outside the Round today with me, Matt Brill. And um, it is a Friday and we've got our man Graham bun hanging out with us. Um, dude, so we've been friends on the internet for a Speaker 3 00:01:30 While. Yeah, it's been a minute. It's Speaker 0 00:01:32 Been, I think since like right around like Covid quarantine, I think is when we first got linked up on ig. Speaker 3 00:01:37 Yeah, I was gonna say the beginning of Covid, but yeah, roughly around that time. Speaker 0 00:01:41 Yeah, like around there. So you're not, how often do you get out here to Nashville? Because you're an LA guy, right? Speaker 3 00:01:45 I'm an LA guy. So I get out here, I, I wanna say like three, four times a year, like once a quarter. And then, uh, working in and out of country music, obviously Nashville's the place to be. So, yeah. Uh, it's been an elongated stay this time. And then I did a long one last year, roughly about six weeks consecutively, so it's been cool. Speaker 0 00:02:04 You did, you did a whole six weeks here, just Speaker 3 00:02:06 Straight. I did, uh, you know, we, we talked about a little bit earlier, Kip Moore is, is a good buddy and, and someone who I respect as an artist and he was working on his album. So I was out here for some of that tail end of that process, like in and out of the studio with him. It was, it was super dope. Like it was really cool that he included me in that process. He's not really like that. Like he, the, the first day, I'll never forget it, um, jar from, oh Speaker 0 00:02:29 Man, where's Cadillac three? Speaker 3 00:02:30 Yeah. Jar from Cadillac three. Yeah, I was drawing a blank on that. I walked in, he was like, who are you? I was like, oh yeah, I'm just a friend of Kips. And he was like, oh, cool. And he could not have been cooler. And he's, he's a genius, like in studio to see him work. He is a genius. Uh, I would never tell him that after hanging out with him. Um, but I'm sure he would love to hear that later. He told me, he was like, man, I'm gonna let you know, I've done, like, I think he's done three or four projects with him. And, uh, he said, I've never seen him bring somebody in the studio, man. I was like, oh, cool. So it was, it was nice. Kip didn't tell me that part, but it was cool that I was included in it, man. So it was pretty dope. Speaker 0 00:03:02 Yeah. And the energy of being in a room when there's, when, when you're in the studio. Cause I, I've done that with some, with some friends and stuff and, but not, not any like Trey and like Musk guy and they'll have friends come in and like, pop. Well, Speaker 3 00:03:15 Tre's the man. So that's cool. Like, shout out Trey. Speaker 0 00:03:17 Yeah. He'll yeah. Shout out Trey, thank you for letting us use your studio buddy. DM Monday Studios. Um, but, um, like he'll have folks pop in, but like to have to get a look into the creative process for one of your buddies who's also, I'm guessing you probably became friends because you probably started out as a Kip Moore fan, right? Speaker 3 00:03:33 Um, no. Yeah, I mean, it's a funny story. I like, you know, I thought Kip was talented. I worked in, just like you, I worked in country radio, so I met him in work spots and I'll give Kip all the credit in the world on this in that, you know, Kip keeps his circle tight and he's, and he's like the consummate professional. Like, if he needs to be somewhere, he's there five minutes early, 10 minutes early, uh, he'll do whatever he needs to do to get his artwork out there. But it's like, we weren't chummy by no means. I liked his music, but I, I'm a fan of storytelling. Yeah. So I like a lot of people's music and so I think our friendship just grew over the years. Like we were cool with one another. Like, Hey, how you doing man? Good to see you keep it moving. Speaker 3 00:04:09 For years before, um, we started like kind of hanging out and I went through some stuff in, in my life that he caught wind of, cuz we have some really close mutual friends. And he, he reached out and was like, yo, I'm, I'm gonna be in town in a month. Let's go grab a beer. Like, I want to check on you. And that was the first time that I was like, oh, all right, well maybe this isn't like a work thing. That was kind of cool. Yeah. And so once you get to know Kip as a person, and I know not a lot of people do, he's one of the coolest dudes on the planet. Yeah. Like, just ridiculous. I, I love him. I'm so proud of him and yeah, it was, it's been really, it's been a blessing for me to be a part of his life. Speaker 0 00:04:44 Yeah. The first, um, the first like show that I went to going outta college where I was like, alright, I fucked with country music. I was in, it was in New Jersey, it was the, um, at the PNC Bank Art Center in Homedale. And it was ki it was Drake White and the, and the Fire, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The band name that was attached to Drake at the time, Kip Moore something, something about a truck had just come out. And then Toby Keith. And it was one of those nights where you never know what Toby's gonna say or do. Well Speaker 3 00:05:08 That's every night with Speaker 0 00:05:09 Yeah, well it's every, oh dude. Yeah. I've seen Toby like 10 times and no song has ever sounded the same. Yeah. And he just brings the party. But that was in 2013. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So to see the different evolution of an artist like Ki Moore too, to where he is at now. Speaker 3 00:05:20 Yeah. I mean Trump, he's sick still one of his biggest songs. Oh yeah. Um, but yeah. Yeah. He's the man. So it was cool to be a part of that process. But yeah, that, that kept me in Nashville, which I learned a lot about Nashville. When you stay here for an extended amount of time, like I was on my way over here to the studio and the traffic might be worse here than it is in la. Really, man, it's terrible Speaker 0 00:05:39 Here. That's a bold statement. Speaker 3 00:05:40 What's going on out here, man? Well, Speaker 0 00:05:42 There's no mass transit. Good. There's not a single drop there technically is a train in Hermitage out near where I live that you can take it drops you off right on the river across from the stadium. Speaker 3 00:05:51 Well, you're a New York guy. That must have been an adjustment. Speaker 0 00:05:53 Yeah, no, no. Mass transit bro. Yeah. Like I've been going, I used to average going to like 10 to 15 Yankees games a year, but I would never drive. Always. Yeah. Of course not. I'd, I'd, well I'd drive over the Tezi Bridge, get on the train in Terrytown, take it in, have a couple beers. Is Speaker 3 00:06:05 It the a train that takes you up or the 4, 5, 6? Speaker 0 00:06:08 It's just the, it's just, um, Metro North. Okay. So I wasn't in, but I've done the subway system and that's where I want to, I want to get Sweep oil in there. Cause he's from Selma, Alabama. Okay. They still ride horses through drive-throughs there. Like they don't know what they're doing, but like Speaker 3 00:06:20 Yeah, that's sick Speaker 0 00:06:20 Because Yeah, the tr the, um, the f like big cities, like Nashville's getting to that level where it's mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's a big freaking Speaker 3 00:06:27 City. Yeah. Like four people cut me off on the way over here, didn't care nothing about it. I was like, I'm in a big city now. This is not, you know, if you're in a small town, people are like, yo, my bad. No. Like four times people are like, get the out of the way. Speaker 0 00:06:36 Yeah. Especially with all those mergers. And when you have 24 and 40 meeting up and it's just such a hub and like we get over a hundred bachelorette parties a year. I think it's probably closer to 200 now. Speaker 3 00:06:46 I did read where it took over Vegas as the bachelorette party capital of, of the world now. Speaker 0 00:06:50 Yeah. And dude, and the, the downtown is a, I guess it's grown a lot. So I've been here since 2018. Okay. Um, like I got down here right before Aldeans and Luke's opened up. Okay. And Broadway was still, I mean, crazy Town was still there. Like it was still kind of that, that bro country Air of Broadway. And now it's turned into where the, all the, all the artists that were booming there have their own places. Sure. Second Avenue, bro is about to be the spot again. Oh yeah. Cause Second Avenue used to be the spot before when Broadway still, Speaker 3 00:07:18 You gotta fill me in. What's Second Avenue? Speaker 0 00:07:19 Second Avenue. It's, so there's, Speaker 3 00:07:21 It's the Midtown bars that are right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Speaker 0 00:07:23 Still here. So Second Avenue down off Broadway. Okay. So it's downtown, it's going. So if you're like at Bridgestone, it's walking down towards the river. Okay. And second half you make that left. There're about, there's about to be like Luke Combs just partnered with um, Ryman Hospitality Group to take over the WildHorse. Love. Love. So Luke Combs gonna comb have a bar. Yep. They just announced a, they're gonna call it, um, is it Nashville Live? Mc I think what you said they were gonna call it. It's gonna be a PBR bar. Um, Speaker 3 00:07:48 I'm too old for Broadway, so all this is gonna be wasted Speaker 0 00:07:50 Me. Yeah. Do what? It's just gonna be chaos and they're not gonna it down to be a one a one lane road and extending out the street thing like dining outside. It's just like Live Oak, which we do our writer's nights at. Yeah. I've Speaker 3 00:08:01 Been to a few writers around at Live Oak. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:08:02 It's a great venue. We love, love the team there and happy to be a part of Live Oak family. They just bought out the old BB Kings and are gonna be turning that into like a venue and a spot where they're running. Barstool just opened up this past week, Speaker 3 00:08:14 So I went to the Barstool one for the grand opening. What'd Speaker 0 00:08:16 You think? Speaker 3 00:08:17 Loved it. Yeah. I thought it was great. Amazing. Speaker 0 00:08:18 Yeah. It fits the vibe and they've been, they've been kind of inching their ways into Nashville With what? With what the, with busting with the boys. Yeah. And Plenty Balls being down here every couple months. Yeah. And like things like that. So it's cool to see them have it. DraftKings is about to fucking open up like a sports book bar. Speaker 3 00:08:33 Yeah. Nashville's popping. That's Speaker 0 00:08:35 Nashvilles crazy. It's crazy dude. It's chaos. It's, it's wild. So are you from Cali originally or? No, Speaker 3 00:08:40 I'm from Raleigh, North Carolina. Speaker 0 00:08:41 Oh shit. That's right. We were talking about that. You were saying how Oh yeah. Re mentions Raleigh and yeah, I like So you're a big, big wolf pack guy. Speaker 3 00:08:47 Nah, I'm a, I'm a tar hill. Speaker 0 00:08:48 Really? Yeah. What was that like growing up in Raleigh and being a Tar Hill? Well, Speaker 3 00:08:52 Both my parents graduated from NC State, so obviously as a small kid I pulled for state not knowing, you know, I wasn't making choices for my own, I just wanted to be, you know, want my dad's my hero. He pulled for state so I pulled for state Speaker 0 00:09:02 Big Jimmy v guy. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:09:04 And so, uh, when you move away from home, I think it might have been a little bit earlier, my sister went to Carolina so I started pulling for Carolina just because of her. And then, uh, I'm a basketball guy and the program was great and it was always exciting to pull form, but when you leave North Carolina, there's nothing more North Carolina than the University of North Carolina. So like it was kind of like a badge of honor of like, oh, this is where I'm from, this is what I rep and Yeah. You know, nothing against NC State cuz I was born in Raleigh. I was born on Tobacco Road in between NC State and Chapel Hill. But um, yeah, when you walk around anywhere in the country and you tell people you're from Carolina, they're like, oh, you must be a tar hill. You know? Yeah. So it was just more of like, it deeply enrooted me still with my hometown, uh, being a Carolina Tar Hill fan. So that was why Speaker 0 00:09:48 Well, one thing that you have in common with all the Wolfpack fans is fuck Duke. Speaker 3 00:09:53 Yeah, for sure. <laugh>, which is odd cuz Coach K came to some of my high school games and uh, at one point in time there was an opportunity to walk on at Duke to play basketball. Really? And one of my best friends is Jay Will. So Jay, if you see this, um, we lived together in New York, uh, for quite a long time. No shit. It was weird cuz I'm a diehard tar hill and he's obviously not. Yes. So, you know, we would get into several entertaining conversations about Speaker 0 00:10:15 It. How big is that? How big is that rivalry? Because I've gotten to see like biggest, I grew up Yankees, red Sox, like the New York Boston stuff and New York Philly stuff. And then I've only worked with Ax from Alabama, you know, so I've only worked with Musk and Musca on with Trey. So I've gotten to experience that. Speaker 3 00:10:29 Man. Love Musca on Speaker 0 00:10:30 By the way. Yeah. Oh, they're good. Great dudes. Love Charlie and Gary. But they're, it's funny cuz when I was with them I was technically an an Auburn fan. Oh, okay. Because they were big Ward Eagle guys. So Yeah. We used to time soundcheck on show for shows on Saturday during football season with them being able to watch Auburn football. Yeah. Mean, I mean, Auburn football wasn't very good at that point. Yeah. And then Trey, huge Alabama fan, they're a big roll Tide camp. And I got to experience like what it's like the, when you don't have too many professional sports teams, the college rivalry. Sure. Which is crazy. So Yeah, you growing up on Tobacco Road, you have that, that trio. Speaker 3 00:11:03 Yeah, for sure. And then when I was growing up, we didn't have the Panthers and we didn't have the Hornets, so it was the same thing. It's kind of, you know, like the Alabama Auburn thing I would say it's very much like the Michigan, Ohio State. The thing that makes it uniquely cool is that that rivalry is separated by seven miles, seven and a half miles. So you're on top of each other's fan bases. Like everywhere you go with somebody that's pulling for one of those two schools, you know, big shout out to NC State, but most of the NC State fans live on NC State's campus. Yeah. They're like paying tuition. So once you leave NC State, you're either a Duke Carolina fan. And so I don't know if any other rivalry, the fan bases are on top of each other like that. Yeah. So, yeah, it's pretty intense. It's amazing. I just got a chance to, this is such a name drop, so I apologize. I, I interviewed Matt Liner for Speaker 0 00:11:49 Usc. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that bro. Speaker 3 00:11:50 And he talked about rivalries and he was like, like, man, one of the bucket list things that I ever wanted to do was go to a Carolina Duke game. So like, growing up in it, you're aware of it, but getting out and being on another coast and hearing other people talk about how dope the rivalry is, you're like, okay. Yeah. It's pretty massive. Speaker 0 00:12:07 Yeah. And for a guy that's, that's a West Coast football guy Yeah. To be like, I want to go to this East coast ACC basketball rivalry. Yeah. It's amazing. That speaks to why it is one of the best in the country. Yeah. So where did you go after, after Carolina? Like, where'd Speaker 3 00:12:20 You Well, yeah, I, I've been all over the place. Um, so I played professionally in Germany for a little bit and then came back, moved to New York, lived in New York City. Just tried to figure out, I mean, this is incredibly embarrassing, just try to figure out life outside of hoop. Yeah. And I started modeling, which was, I was a terrible model. So this not not Speaker 0 00:12:36 Drop a thing that's a thing to do in New York. Speaker 3 00:12:38 Yeah, for sure of it. And I got asked to do like this big job and I thought I was gonna be so dope. And I show up and they're like asking me to pass out Hor Dres in my underwear. I was like, okay, yeah, I'm not, I'm not cool, man. Like, this is not cool. I'm, I'm gonna figure something else out. Yeah. Um, and then I, I started dating this actress, which, you know, her, she was shooting a show in New York for all my children. Then all of those shows moved to California. So I, we moved to California, I chased her mistake and, you know, just kind of fell into country radio. So like New York to la Germany all over just trying to live life. And then honestly, when I grew up I was like, man, I wanna live next door to my parents. And so I have not followed that plan very well. Speaker 0 00:13:19 Yeah. Well, my plan growing up was I wanted to stay in New York. I wanted to work in sports media. So like, I was the kid, I went to Ryder mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, in, um, in Jersey. Yeah. With Small and the Mac baby. Yeah. The Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference. We were the all them, all them Catholic Jesuit schools. And then you have a couple private schools. Speaker 3 00:13:35 Are your team colors green and white? Is Speaker 0 00:13:37 That right? No, that is, uh, Manhattan. Oh, okay. That's Manhattan. That's Manhattan. Manhattan. Fairfield MAs Iona. Yeah. All the very small gyms. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like our, our, we were a division one school and our gymnasium held a hundred, held 1600 people Speaker 3 00:13:50 Because Jay's from Jersey, so I'm familiar with Ryder a little Speaker 0 00:13:53 Bit. Yeah. So I wanted to like be on ESPN and do all that. Like, I interned with the MSG network growing up and did wanted to be a sports guy. Yeah. I never thought I'd work in, like, I always loved country music, but I never thought I'd be 14 hours away from home in a different time zone in the south. Speaker 3 00:14:07 How did it start for you? Speaker 0 00:14:08 Country? So, so it started, I mean, Speaker 3 00:14:10 Because you're a radio guy, you did radio for a Speaker 0 00:14:12 While. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did. Um, so for me, like my first concert growing up was Tim McGraw. It was back when it was haka Tim McGraw doing the Eric Church thing. Where he, there you go. When, like, when, when church did the 61 days thing and there was no, no openers and haca, Tim McGraw with the FU Man chew mm-hmm. <affirmative> playing three hours a night. Yeah. Um, just crazy shit. Um, so I saw him in, in oh three, I was in the third grade and country had always been like, but I grew up like listening to all kinds of music. But then when I went to college, I was, I got a job with the athletic department. I was like helping run the press conferences, do all the, the sports information shit. Yeah. Getting to know the players and then working, I was on writing for the back for the, uh, sports section, the school paper, doing all sports related stuff. Nice. And I remember walking in, cause I've been going, I went to a couple country shows that summer and I learned that the, the odds as a single 18 year old, the odds are very much in your favor at a country music concert. Yeah. You see a lot of, lot of, lot of Pretty Girls at a Country show. Um, Speaker 3 00:15:05 That's still the case. Speaker 0 00:15:06 Oh, it is very much the case. Yes. Very much still the case. Yeah. Um, which is which between that and just like the culture of it, it was really, it was a lot of fun. And then I saw, I walked into my college radio station for a meeting and I saw on the calendar, I saw something that said Redneck radio mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I was like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. So I got into doing that and then I realized how you can get access to artists through radio. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like the country community has such a respect for country radio even still to this day. Yeah. Facts. Speaker 3 00:15:35 Yeah, Speaker 0 00:15:35 For sure. Back in 2013 and I, we started reaching out and getting artists on our little 25 watt college radio station that nobody fucking listened to. Yeah. But we had all these guys and girls as they were coming up and I was just like, all right, well I guess I'm, I'm into this now. And then had some buddies that were in the local scene in Jersey, moved down here and they used to call me up once a week, be like, dude, you gotta get down here, dude. You gotta get down here. Yeah. Came down to visit and halfway through that week I had my job at Whiskey Row and had a spot in Spring Hill. 45 minutes. Figured 45 minutes is a lot close. 45 minutes outside of town. It's a lot closer than 14 hours away from town, Speaker 3 00:16:08 You know? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. That's Speaker 0 00:16:09 An upgrade. So that's, that's kind, that's kind of how it happened. Speaker 3 00:16:11 Nice. Just using and never look back, man analogy. No. Just a mogul in the country. Music community, mogul <laugh>. We're working, we're Speaker 0 00:16:19 Just crushing it. We're we're, we're working on it, man. Hey, the Speaker 3 00:16:21 Studio is nice, man. I'm, I'm, I'm halfway joking. I'm halfway serious. Yeah. You're doing something right man. Yeah, dude, Speaker 0 00:16:27 It's, it's a cool, it's a cool spot. And, um, it's been cool to like watch this grow and then like to watch artists grow from, and you've been around the game long enough where you've seen artists, like, like a Kipp like different, different folks come up over the last few years. Like Sure. I'm sure you remember, you remember your first time meeting Old, old Morgan Wall and Old Luke Combs, all those guys. Yeah, those were guys. I had my college radio show in 2014. Speaker 3 00:16:50 Well, Luke and I went to App State together, so, you know. Speaker 0 00:16:54 Okay. You're, Speaker 3 00:16:54 I had, I got an in with church and, and, uh, and when I got my starting radio, that was like my end. I went to App Speaker 0 00:16:59 State. So Adam Church is a good friend of ours. Speaker 3 00:17:01 Oh, amazing. Speaker 0 00:17:02 Yeah. So Adam Adam's opened up a bunch of shows for, for Trey and we've gotten to know him very well and Speaker 3 00:17:07 He, I don't know him, but I know his story. Yeah. And I, you know, he's obviously a legend in Boone. Speaker 0 00:17:10 Yeah. And it's the, that there's something everybody talks about Georgia. Mm-hmm. And Georgia's great. We love Georgia there. There's something in the water there with country music. The Carolinas do not get enough credit. The Carolinas in Alabama. Yeah. There is a lot of good music that comes outta there. Yeah, we do. Speaker 3 00:17:24 All right. Speaker 0 00:17:25 And especially in the, in the country. Speaker 3 00:17:26 I mean, we got two guys up for like, artists of the year every year now. So especially our little school. So I, I'm really proud of it. Speaker 0 00:17:33 Yeah. What is Boone? I've never been to Boone. What is Boone? North, North Carolina. Like it's Speaker 3 00:17:36 God's country. Yeah. It's just gorgeous mountains everywhere. Picturesque, uh, people are nice, you know, it's still got that small town charm, but it's exploding. It's obviously a huge football town now. I mean they were top 25, like three outta the last five years. Speaker 0 00:17:50 Where were you the day that they upset Michigan at the big house? Do you remember where you were? I Speaker 3 00:17:55 Was, I was slinging drinks in New York City on 42nd and second Street at a bar called McFadden's. Speaker 0 00:18:00 Oh dude, I love McFadden's. Yeah. So that's a legendary place. Speaker 3 00:18:03 Me and a teammate from Map State, we used to bartend and manage there and uh, yeah, we were, we had a few beers that night. And then, you know, shout out to Cory Lynch, the guy who blocked the, the field goal. He is a buddy of ours and married Cissy Graham. And yeah, it's cool. Boone is similar to Nashville in that it's, it's a large city now. It's not as large as Nashville, but uh, you end up knowing everybody. You, you send, you see people around and you get to know him pretty quickly. And so yeah, it was a great place. There's there's a reason Eric Church named his son Boone. He loves it. Speaker 0 00:18:30 Yeah. And I've, I have family in east Tennessee. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like just over the other side of the mountains. Yeah. And like the Tri-Cities, so like Bristol Johnson City, like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that area. And I never went to it, but they used to take my sister and like my cousins to, what's that big fucking, there's a, the big ass house. The Biltmore Speaker 3 00:18:47 Is it? Yeah, the Biltmore. I think that's in Asheville though, right? Speaker 0 00:18:49 Is in, is that, is that Asheville? Yeah, that's in Asheville. Is Ash how far? I think so is Asheville and Boone are kind of far Speaker 3 00:18:54 Or No, no. Maybe an hour, hour 15 Speaker 0 00:18:56 Maybe. Okay. So like the same type of type of Carolina. Speaker 3 00:18:58 I mean, Asheville put out some products too. I mean I think Chase Rice is from Asheville and uh, there's a couple other people that, that right outta Asheville and I think Combs got his start playing gigs down in, in Asheville. I mean I know he played for uh, Adam and Boone for a little bit. Yeah. But I think it was really down in Asheville if I'm not mistaken, that he started playing and catching some, you know, social media attention for his stuff and his covers and everything. Speaker 0 00:19:21 Yeah. So when did, so when did you kind of get started doing the, doing the radio stuff? How do you go from slinging drinks that McFadden That's so cool that you said McFadden's too. I've had some McFadden nights Speaker 3 00:19:29 In there, man. We've all had some nights in there. Rest in Peace. McFadden's. Yes. I think Covid got it. Yeah. Uh, I think there was a McFadden's here for a little while. Speaker 0 00:19:37 There Speaker 3 00:19:37 Was downtown. There was unfortunately, I think it got affected with the bombing. Yep. Speaker 0 00:19:41 Um, yeah. Terrible. Which is where all these new bars are opening up. Oh Speaker 3 00:19:43 Really? It's kind of wild. Oh, oh, is that the one you were describing? Second, Speaker 0 00:19:46 Second, avenue second. That whole strip. Oh, okay. That whole strip is where all these new bars are opening and it's gonna be four or five story bars just Speaker 3 00:19:52 Rocking. Okay. I'm familiar then just cuz the, the McFadden spot. Yep. And that's terrible, you know, for all the businesses that were affected by that. Horrific, I mean, Nashville's been through some stuff in the last few years. Speaker 0 00:20:02 Yeah, dude, I remember the, in, in a two week span. We had the tornado and we had Covid start Yeah. Within like a week of each other. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:20:10 That's, yeah. Speaker 0 00:20:10 Remember from being like, I got a busy year of touring with the Musket Iron guys to them being like, Hey, this week's canceled this week's guys. Oh, the whole tours, Ken. I'm like, oh shit. Speaker 3 00:20:20 I left LA uh, a couple weeks ago for this business trip that I've, that I've been on and Musk and I played like the day after I left, I was so pissed. I've never seen 'em live. Like I Speaker 0 00:20:28 Love them. You've never seen them live. No Uhuh bro. And they were Speaker 3 00:20:31 Huge fans. Speaker 0 00:20:31 Yeah. They were just on their, that was their first time out West Coast. Speaker 3 00:20:35 Yeah. I had never seen them out there, but I, you know, I play them on our show all the time. Yeah. They're like, yeah, I'm a big fan. Big fan. Love those guys. Speaker 0 00:20:41 Yeah. They're, they're good dudes. And what's, what's cool about what they do is they're, and it's awesome that you play them on your show all Speaker 3 00:20:47 The time. Play they are the full amount pieces is like my, my new thing right now. And then obviously they've, they've got the, the Rock stuff they just dropped that we played. Yeah. Jamie all over. We play a bunch. Speaker 0 00:20:57 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, they're the fact that they're independent like they are. Speaker 3 00:21:01 Yeah. Which is probably smart. I mean there's, I've had so many conversations about independent or record deal, but, uh, there was someone who offered me an a and r job not too long ago and the first thing I thought of was like, I wonder if I could get Muscat on <laugh>. Yeah. I was like, yo, that would be sick. Speaker 0 00:21:16 Yeah. They, well, there's something about what you have to do is you have to have the work ethic to not really want to have the team around you. Because I've seen that with Trey. Like, we saw when, when Trey had his explosion and it was independent, we were doing everything ourselves. It was very incredibly grassroots. And it still is in a sense. But he's, he's got a label deal now. But now you have all these resources mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Gary and Charlie just put the whole team on their back. Like they're both Greg Jennings and they just get after it. Yeah. And they're, I mean, they're already like, record four is fucking already in the works. Speaker 3 00:21:45 Like, it's crazy. Yeah. I mean I can remember hearing Port Port Swing Angel for the first time and being like, man, these dudes, they're gonna be around for as long as they want to be. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:21:53 Yeah. And they, and I mean they're as good of a, as good of a duo in country music that there's been in the last 10 years. It's, it's wild. And they're, and the class of guys and girls that they came up with that were around that same time, look at what Laney's doing. Yeah. Look, they're under that Luke Combs tree you look at. Speaker 3 00:22:07 Yeah. That piece song. I think Laney's on that song. Yep. Oh Speaker 0 00:22:10 Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That was cuz I used to co-host their podcast with them. I helped produce and co-host that and we had Laney on for an episode. Mm-hmm. Nice. Um, not long after they they did that. She's Speaker 3 00:22:19 Got a future I think. I think. I think. Speaker 0 00:22:21 Think so. I think so. She's got a future. I think so. Um, how's like the, what is the West Coast scene like as far as country music? Cause you guys have, I call it country music. Coachella. I, that's what I call stage coach. Yeah. I'm like, I wanted go. Speaker 3 00:22:32 Have you been to Coachella? No, Speaker 0 00:22:33 But I haven't Speaker 3 00:22:34 Been. Been stage You would say that. Yeah. <laugh>, you had never say that, Speaker 0 00:22:36 But from what it looks like, it looks like that. Sure. Compared to other ones. Like I was just at Tailgate and Tall Boys. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> in Bloomington, Illinois. Speaker 3 00:22:44 Yeah. How was that? Speaker 0 00:22:45 It was, it was redneck as fuck. I'm going to country concert in Ohio. Like I've experienced the Midwest. I've experienced Northeast, I've experienced the Southeast. I guess just, it just looks very, it looks like that kind of Coachella thing. Speaker 3 00:22:57 Well if you've ever been to Coachella, which I've been to several Coachellas and then you go to Stagecoach cuz they're back to back, if anyone's not familiar. They just, there are two music festivals. Coachella's an all genre music festival that like 112 people go. 112,000 people go to Stagecoach is held the third weekend after a two weekend run of Coachella. If you've ever been to both, they're, they're very d Polar opposites. They're polar opposites. They're polar opposites. Yeah. Okay. Um, you know, I'm judging, but Coachella's drug culture and after parties, like half the people that go to Coachella don't even go to the festival. They just go to the after parties. Speaker 0 00:23:28 Oh, it's that Hollywood vibe. Yeah. Where it's like, who cares about the ba and event, we're gonna the after party Speaker 3 00:23:33 Victoria's Secret party or so-and-so's party. And like, it's cool. Like you get to do it. I did it once. One of my friends, um, he's the lead singer of Laney. Oh Speaker 0 00:23:42 No. Shit. That's Speaker 3 00:23:43 Cool. I went, why he played the main stage at Coachella and he was like, yo, you gotta come, like come down. So, all right, cool. And obviously he got invited to everything. So we got to experience a lot of Coachella and then I was like, okay. I mean, I, I get it, but I wouldn't do it again. It's just not for me. Your thing. I I like the music. Yeah. So, um, yeah, I guess from the outsider end, you could say it's the Coachella, but Speaker 0 00:24:02 Because they're both in the same area Right? Speaker 3 00:24:04 There's the same fields, it's the same venue, same everything. So Speaker 0 00:24:07 Wait, they the people that run that? Speaker 3 00:24:09 Yeah. Golden Voice. Wow. It's Coachella Weekend one. Coachella Weekend two Stagecoach Weekend three. Speaker 0 00:24:14 What a chaotic month. Speaker 3 00:24:16 Oh yeah. People make their mortgages. They put their houses up on Airbnb and just Cake for three weekends and then they, they they're good, good to go for Speaker 0 00:24:23 The year. What are like some of the amusements and attractions within, within um, stagecoach? Cause I, I've heard nothing about good things about it, you know? Yeah. No, I'm not hating on Stagecoach at all. I, Speaker 3 00:24:32 I mean, I was fortunate. Shout out Amazon Music. I got to host it this year, so, oh no, shit. They do, uh, they did a partnership for the very first year. They did a live stream. So like, if you wanted to watch Stagecoach, if you had Amazon Prime, they streamed the entire show. How cool. I was the host, um, or one of the hosts, there was three of us. And so they, you know, they get all the different stages. There's four or five different stages there and there's activations. This year they did a partnership with Yellowstone because a lot of the artists from Yellowstone, Ryan Bingham, Laney, um, Luke Grimes, they all performed. Taylor Sheridan was there. And so like, there was a whole, it wasn't my part of, of the job. I didn't get to go over there. But they did a whole activation where you could go in and like, they rebuilt one of the barns from Yellowstone. Wow. So you, you go in and check it out and meet some of the cast members, stuff like that. Speaker 0 00:25:17 That's cool. Speaker 3 00:25:18 Yeah, it was cool. Um, but yeah, it's very different from Coachella. Highly recommended. If you, I mean I've been to a few, stagecoach is my favorite. Uh, I mean I'm biased cuz I am a Southern California country guy. Yeah. Uh, and I know what an event it is because out there people there, I mean there's 13 million people in Los Angeles County. So when you go out, not everybody is a country music fan, but you don't realize, oh wait a minute, there's so many people here. There's, it is just watered down. So when you go to a country show, you're around all these people and you're like, where do all these people live? They live all over. It's just LA's so big. Like, you know, you're not running into a bunch. Speaker 0 00:25:54 Yeah. That's, and then, but there is kind of that community to where if you are going to a lot of club shows in Oh yeah. In the, in the like cuz that's how I felt coming up in the Jersey scene. Yeah. Like I'd Speaker 3 00:26:03 Go to, you'd make friends quickly, Speaker 0 00:26:04 I'd go to Jenks mm-hmm. Every Wednesday night during the summer Yeah. And see the artists that were coming up doing the, doing the free full band radio show thing. Yeah. And but you would see, you would recognize people each week that would be in the front row that would be doing the meet and greet that would be buying the merch. That would be out in the smoke section, ripping darts. Like those same, those same folks. And I feel like the West Coast and the Northeast kind of have that similar vibe because folks down in the south are like, oh, California, they don't know country bullshit. They don't know country media. You ever heard of Merle Haggard and Fucking Bakersfield? You ever heard of Dwight Yoakum, Dwight Yoakum, John's, all those guys. Speaker 3 00:26:37 John Campbell Speaker 0 00:26:37 Party, Brett Young, I mean brother, the list goes on and on and on. And then with the Northeast it's, there's this appreciation because we don't get a lot of it. Yeah. You know, we don't get, there's, we don't get muscular on Bloodline coming up to the northeast. This was their first West Coast tour they've ever done, you know? Yeah. Like a lot of hacks don't go out that far. Speaker 3 00:26:55 Yeah. I think, you know, honestly, at the end of the day, a lot of it does come down to money. Like, can you afford to get the bus there and back? Yeah. Like, how many shows can you play? How big are the venues? Can we ca can we make our investment back? But I do think there's country music fans everywhere. Oh Speaker 0 00:27:07 Yeah. Agreed. Speaker 3 00:27:07 California now is becoming, in the last 15 years, I would say a very profitable move for artists. So it wasn't that, you know, artists from Nashville didn't want to go to California. I just didn't think, you know, maybe labels didn't think it was a great business move. And now there's so many venues and there's such an explosion of country music out there and artists that are coming from California, representing California that, uh, people are showing up and buying hard tickets. So the investment on getting there and doing shows and doing runs there is well worth it. Speaker 0 00:27:37 Yeah. There's two artists from California that are coming up right now, and they're, they're baby acts. They're, they're kids that are playing a lot of our rounds and stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> kid named Carson Wallace. Okay. If you're familiar with him yet mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he goes to Belmont. He's 19. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but labels are, Speaker 3 00:27:51 Belmont puts out products, bro. They Speaker 0 00:27:52 They do man. I mean, just like Carolina puts out products on the basketball court. Yeah. Belmont Speaker 3 00:27:56 Puts out Belmont puts Al Pradas Speaker 0 00:27:57 And if the, if the basketball court were country music, they Yeah. They put out Speaker 3 00:28:01 I Belmont's got a good basketball team too, but man, they crushed, they crushed in country music. Speaker 0 00:28:04 Yeah. And then there's a girl named Sam Stone. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, who's from Los Angeles County. Okay. And she's definitely a little, little left of center with her sound where it's very traditional Western, but it is awesome. So nice. It's cool to see the action. Like there's a kid, there's a kid coming up right now. His name's Aiden Canfield. That's from New York. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> grew up from Terry or from um, where the hell it's Westchester. He is from Okay. So like dressed outside the city, but he's down here and got a booking deal in a pub deal. Like it's, yeah. Speaker 3 00:28:31 I just started listening to a guy from Boston, uh, Northeast. Logan, Michael. He's Speaker 0 00:28:34 Oh dude. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:28:35 He's legit man. He's awesome. I love that Speaker 0 00:28:37 Kid. Yeah. You saw, I saw him play at CMA Fest and he did, he did. So shit, this year was my first CMA Fest. Not having to work at a bar or be on the Speaker 3 00:28:45 Road with someone. Someone I just met with the guy yesterday. I had lunch with him for some shit I can't talk about cause I probably won't get it. But, um, he created the CMA Fest broadcast. Really? Yeah. I was like, dude, you're a legend. I mean, he did a million things. He was telling me about his life and I was like, man, I gotta get going. But, um, yeah, I was like, this dude has done everything under the sun. But he, they were getting ready to cancel it. They were getting ready to cancel CMA Fest when it was at the fairgrounds. And then they obviously were, they were gonna move it, um, if they continued it and people were gonna vote on it. So a little fun fact, I found out yesterday, I didn't know this, uh, CMA Fest was saved in Los Angeles, California on Sunset Boulevard. No shit. That's where they had the vote. That's where they had the meeting. This guy was like 19 or 20 at the time and said, well I got an idea. Let's, uh, he like, he filmed it, he wrote the sizzle for it and then he sold the idea and the concept of turning it into, alright, we'll film everything at the festival, then we'll turn it into a broadcast. And he, he's responsible for saving CMA Fest. Wow. So big shout out Rob Deaton, if you're out there Speaker 0 00:29:43 Buddy. And that is a big, like that is a huge, that's been a huge thing for, for country music. Amazing. Expanding, you know, Speaker 3 00:29:48 I think he produces it now. I think he's like the main dude. But like, can you imagine someone, what'd you do with your life? Oh, I saved CMA Fest. <laugh>. Like, yo, I was like, check. I have, I can't compete with that. I Speaker 0 00:29:58 Put, I put live country music performance, like Country music's biggest event. Yeah. Out of Nashville. I brought it to the masses on national television. Yeah. That's a Speaker 3 00:30:07 Pretty cool compliment. Or just saving it from death. Like he said they were gonna cancel it and then, then then, you know, he came up with the idea that kind of financially helped keep it alive. And then now what, what was it like 50 years this year? Yeah. Ridiculous. Speaker 0 00:30:19 Yeah. 50, 50 years. And it just gets bigger and bigger every year, which is really cool. And it's cool to see that there's more and more artists being involved with it. Yeah. Like, it's not just the, the the artists being ponied around by the labels. Sure. It's a lot of independent acts have places in there. Well Speaker 3 00:30:34 That's changing quite a bit now. Which is nice with, I mean obviously I work for a streamer so I'm, I'm I'm big on, you know, giving everybody the light that they need. But it's nice that there's other venues cuz look, there's, there's gonna be a place for labels forever. And I think labels are amazing. And if you can get a record deal, I think it's not for everybody, like you said, but it's still like it does help. Yeah. But it's nice that some of these independents and like, like you said, they're getting to play really cool events and they don't have to have that now. Cuz there's only so many spots on those, on those labels. Speaker 0 00:31:03 Yeah. So I go out to California to, where do I go to see a country show? Like where's, where's where would you you recommend? Cause I've done Moonshine Beach and I've done Moonshine Flats. Yeah. San Diego. Those are fun, Speaker 3 00:31:13 Man. San Diego. I mean any of the beach towns, like they do now, they do some of those festivals down in Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach. Like, it's such a cool vibe. Um, you know, and it does bring in the element of California and some of the country artists that come out there. They like, they really start leaning into it. Like you instead of the cowboy boots, you'll see 'em out there in sandals and like they got a cold one just relax and until you get to see 'em in a different light. But you know, guys like Morgan, they're playing la you know what I mean? They're playing crypto and like it's a spectacle. It's, it's something and it's a sight to see. So I mean anywhere but I down on the beach down in Hermosa or anywhere in Orange County, like the House of Blues down in Orange County is pretty dope. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:31:48 I might have to try to get out cause we're trying to hit a lot of festivals. Yeah. Like that's our thing with Ray Rowdy right now is Yeah, because Ray Rowdy started in at Country Concert in Fort Lau, Ohio and it was just a bunch of dudes like Nicky TB and one of them, they call themselves the rowdy gentleman of Leisure. Yeah. And they would just get drunk at festivals and just be the folks at the side stage, like front row, like supporting the up and comers and all that. Yeah. So we're trying to get to a lot of festivals. So like that's really cool. Speaker 3 00:32:10 By Speaker 0 00:32:10 The way, I wanna get, I, I wanna get out, I want to do Stagecoach and the other one. What's the one in Washington or Oregon? Watershed. Oh, Speaker 3 00:32:18 Watershed. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:32:18 I want to do those two. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:32:20 Watershed man. I've never been but the pictures the gorge. Yeah man, the gorge. Unbelievable. I was supposed to see Stapleton at the Gorge with my pastor of all people. Shout out Mr. Judah Smith. And uh, that's something happened. I think Stapleton had like vocal issues and he canceled it or something like this a couple years Speaker 0 00:32:35 Ago. Yeah. Yeah. That place. I remember seeing the video seeing, um, Hardy puts out some of the best tour content in everybody. Him and Tanner, they have great, Speaker 3 00:32:42 That guy that's another guy's got a future. Yes. Speaker 0 00:32:44 Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Wild. Speaker 3 00:32:46 He walks around with a printing press I would imagine. Speaker 0 00:32:47 Yeah. It's wild. Um, but watching, I think they put up a clip and it's like they have like a driving range there and you just hit fuck, you just hit golf balls just off into the coach. Yeah. That's amazing. And that's like one of the amenities that's there. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:32:58 That would be awesome. Speaker 0 00:33:00 Yeah, it'd be cool tod be cool to check that out. So what do you have like coming up and talk a little bit about, about your show that you've got? It's over. It's on which Speaker 3 00:33:06 Amazon? Amazon? Yeah. So Amazon Music is launching its own radio platform. Sick. And, uh, I used to work for Spotify and before that I did a, a TV show with Travis t tr and Shania Twain and Jake Owen here in Nashville called Real Country. So like Speaker 0 00:33:20 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing that. That was a few years back. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:22 Yeah. So Larry Fleet was one of the contestants on it. Tiara was one of the contestants. I was the host. So, so it was, it was really cool. But Amazon approached me about helping build out the arm of their, their country branch of this radio platform. And so now I just do a daily morning show, check out Amp. It's uh, we have everybody from KIPP and Brett and Brothers Osbourne and like all the Elany and all these acts that you know and love. But then we also have, uh, you know, we had a guy named Landon Wall on the other day. Matt Schuster. Speaker 0 00:33:52 Oh, we know Matt. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:52 Yeah. Love Matt man. His voice is ridiculous. Yep. Speaker 0 00:33:55 It's, it's ridiculous. And he's still figuring it out. Yeah. Which is what's crazy. He's so good right now and he's still figuring out what's it like going from doing the terrestrial morning show where it's like a clock set up. Yeah. And you're, you're thrown into traffic and, and the weather and you're doing the, the callers into this and into that. What's it like doing that for a Speaker 3 00:34:15 Streamer? Man, I loved, you know, shout out Go Country 1 0 5 and entire Southern California country community. I loved it. I mean, it was my first job in radio. I had never done radio. I didn't study radio, I just got put on the radio. Yeah. And so I know everybody in the radio business hates me. So like, you, you didn't start in like Salina, Texas. Yeah. I'm like, nah. Yeah, I just started in Los Angeles and so I have nothing but amazing things to say about the whole team there and country radio in it in itself. But it is really cool and really fun because I would go to these music meetings and I worked for someone who, whose family, the, the station out there was privately owned. So the, the family kind of like family tree ran everything. Yeah. And so you would make recommendations, but I didn't have any real power. I mean, I could make some suggestions and some of those worked out heavily in, in my benefits. So when Chris Stapleton was going around and people weren't playing Chris Stapleton, I was heavy on, we had a dinner and Chris Stapleton's team was there and I was leaning in heavy about, oh, I think Chris Stapleton's gonna be the biggest thing in country music. Like, Speaker 0 00:35:15 Dude, this is working like right now. Like it's happening. Speaker 3 00:35:18 Well this was in like 2000. This was before the CMA thing with with Luke? No, with uh, Justin Timberlake. Oh, just, Speaker 0 00:35:24 Oh yeah. When Speaker 3 00:35:25 He blew up. This was before Speaker 0 00:35:26 That. So what was the song that was Speaker 3 00:35:28 What uh, what are you listening to? Oh, he shopped that as a single, nobody would play it. And so, um, I don't think they were shopping that single at the time, but he was going around meeting people and stuff and uh, yeah, I sat at that dinner, I was just like, yo, I think this guy, I had heard him with the steel drivers so I was familiar. Yeah. And you know, whatever it, it works out. Your bosses go a different direction. It happens. Yeah. But that doesn't happen with my show at this moment in time. There's a freedom to book whoever I want to play whatever I want. And so that has been a really cool thing to be able to shed light on stories that probably would've gotten turned down at my old job. Like, oh, well you know this, they don't have any charting songs yet. I'm like, yeah, that's the cool part about it. Like, we'll get in early, you know? Yeah. Everybody wants to buy Apple Stock now. <laugh>. Like, you know, you know what I mean? So like, um, I loved my job there, I loved the people. It was really cool being a part of a community. Like, you get up and you tell funny stories about what you did and I'm, I'm really self-deprecating so I'll just make fun of myself all the time. Yeah, same Speaker 0 00:36:27 <laugh>. And uh, Speaker 3 00:36:28 I think that puts people at ease. We're like, oh well this guy don't take himself too seriously. And so you get to go to local events and people you feel innately like you have friends in the community. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:36:38 Weirdest radio event you did. Cuz I know we've all done as personalities. Like I did some interesting ones back home in Speaker 3 00:36:43 Jersey. Gimme an example of, of Speaker 0 00:36:45 Weird like, like an, like an appearance or like mm-hmm. Of like a remote or like where you're just at, I guess you're in, you're in really like major, major markets. Yeah. So it's probably a little different. LA I was in like market 42, 43 in like central New Jersey. Speaker 3 00:36:58 Okay. Yeah. That I would imagine you saw some things. Like Speaker 0 00:37:00 I, we had an am like I'd go out with and I was also doing the promotion stuff. Okay. So I was a street teamer for part of it. Yeah. That's how I got my start. Like we would go to like, like semi-pro wrestling things and I watched Tommy Dreamer hit some guy with a trash can. That's amazing. Like Yeah. And all, all for $10 an hour sitting on my boss's couch. Cause I loved it. Like, Speaker 3 00:37:17 I'm probably gonna get in trouble for this cuz me and this gentleman don't get along anymore. I guess we're fine. But we, I had a guy that I worked with and to his credit, he worked really hard, uh, in regards to the street team stuff. Yeah. He loved that stuff. So he was kind of the producer slash co-host, but, um, eventually, yeah, definitely the co-host. But he started out as the producer and I'll give him his credit. He did all of that and he loved it though. So I didn't have to go to any of those things. I, I would go to anything they asked me to. Of course like yeah, I'm not too cool for nothing. Speaker 0 00:37:49 But, but also a ta talent fees are nice. Speaker 3 00:37:51 Yeah. Speaker 0 00:37:51 They'll hit you with them. Talent fees paid, at least they paid come back in Jersey. I Speaker 3 00:37:54 Got paid handsomely for my job. You're Speaker 0 00:37:56 In LA bro. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:37:57 I was, I, you know, I told the story not too long ago with somebody at dinner. I was bartending and I landscaping and so when I went to interview for the job, I had no idea I'd never done radio. I had never, I had no idea what people from radio got paid. And I'm thinking, alright, if they offer me 40 grand I'm in. And the agent that sent me in on it was my modeling agent. So I'm like, he don't know what, he doesn't know what these people make. We have no idea. Yeah. And um, push comes to shove, you know, I get the call like, yeah, they're gonna make an offer. They loved you. I'm like, oh, amazing, incredible. Um, and in my mind I'm thinking if they pay me 40 grand, I'll be able to bartend less and I probably can stop mowing lawns Speaker 0 00:38:36 And it'll be a cool job. I can talk about country music Speaker 3 00:38:39 And, and I love country music. Yeah. And I'm from North Carolina and like it, my parents can listen to me and it'll make me a little bit closer with my family. It'll be, it'll be super dope. They came back and I'll ne it was like, yeah, I'll never forget this is a true store. I, I was sitting in my buddy's living room, my agent, I was like, oh, my agent's calling, my agent's calling my agent, my modeling agent. He's not a real agent. <laugh>. And uh, he goes, well they, uh, they made an offer, but I'm be honest with you, it was a little low. We, we honestly, we, we had to turn it down. And I was like, okay, okay, but what does that mean? Like, is the process over? Like what was the offer? And he was like, oh, they offered a hundred K <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:39:12 I was like, yo, where are you at? Cuz I will drive to you right now and kill you. Like I was just, and it worked out. They knew what they were doing and Yeah. And luckily he had passed it on to a guy in the agency that had dealt with, uh, audio space. And so it worked out really well where I did not have to do or need to do. And it was a really cool thing to allow the producer of our show who chimed in and like, he became a part of the show. He did a lot of that stuff and he really liked it. Yeah. He really enjoyed it. So I was like, oh cool man, you do that and I'll do the other stuff and yeah. Yeah. So I didn't, I didn't have a lot of weird encounters cuz like in la I don't know, we just didn't have a lot of uh, stuff like that I guess. Speaker 0 00:39:48 Yeah. Where do you think the um, the homeless population's worse? LA or Nashville? Because it's pretty bad here. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:39:54 So I haven't encountered it in Nashville. I haven't been here long enough. We gotta Speaker 0 00:39:56 Get you to It's a Hermitage bro. Hate we, we got a village out there. Speaker 3 00:39:59 Yeah. I hate that it's even a conversation. It's pretty bad in la Uh, I live in Studio City and I love Studio City, but it's, it's becoming an issue. It's becoming a problem. And I don't, I don't know what the answer is, but man, it's because Speaker 0 00:40:10 It's over cuz it's, it's like, I remember being in San Diego, and this was 2017. Or mean, Speaker 3 00:40:15 If I was homeless, I'd wanna live in la I don't know Speaker 0 00:40:16 About here. That's what I'm saying. I makes sense. Why, why would be like, Speaker 3 00:40:19 Or Florida, I'd sleep on the beach. Like Speaker 0 00:40:20 That storm that came through yesterday. You don't want that. You don't want that shit. Speaker 3 00:40:23 Yeah. I got stuck in that. I was sitting out, I was sitting in actually sitting in KIPP's truck being like, when is this gonna stop raining? Cuz I had to run to the studio. I was like, you don't see this in la You don't see that crazy thunderstorm outta Speaker 0 00:40:36 Nowhere. Yeah. What's the, what was, it had to be different, the weather for you going out that way, huh? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:40:40 I mean, I love that you, you know, you can have, I have a very basic sense of style. I wear the same stuff every day. But in, in California, you get away with it. People are like, oh, that guy must be important. He looks like trash <laugh>. I'm like, yo, he's not dressed at all. That guy's like, gotta be rich <laugh>. Uh, you know, when you go somewhere like Nashville, where I would imagine you guys have all four seasons and weather. You, the, the wardrobe gets extensive. I don't really like having those choices. I'm like, what T-shirt do I, I wear this t-shirt today. Perfect. Speaker 0 00:41:07 I'll wear this ball cap. I'll wear this pair of jeans jumping Speaker 3 00:41:09 On these boots. Yeah. I don't mix it up too much. Speaker 0 00:41:11 That's cool. Yeah. I want to, I want get out to Cali some more. I want to get out and check it out and then I wanna, that's been great. I hear Arizona's a lot of fun too. Speaker 3 00:41:18 I've been to Arizona a few times on golf trips. I'm not great at golf, but it, it's been Speaker 0 00:41:21 Great. I'm not either, but I love going and doing it. There's something Speaker 3 00:41:24 Be said for people and people in Arizona love their lives. They're there for a reason. Yeah. They're Speaker 0 00:41:28 Lifers. That's where the New York Witness Protection people are too. Oh really? Yeah. That's like nice. Like, like in, uh, like Goodfellas. Yeah. Where at the end, the Goodfellas, when they send Ray Liotta out. Yeah. He's, he's in Arizona. Yeah. Shout out Speaker 3 00:41:38 And rest in peace. Ray Yotta. Speaker 0 00:41:40 Yeah. Um, where, uh, where are some spots you like going to here? Like are you uh, you don't sound like too much of a Broadway guy. Speaker 3 00:41:45 I'm not a Broadway guy. And again, this is like a, a crazy name drop. But usually I'm, I'm, if I'm here I'm with artists. Yeah. And so artists innately hate Broadway. Speaker 0 00:41:53 They don't, and let, except for a few really. There are a few that love it. Speaker 3 00:41:56 I heard Chris Young loves Broadway or loves Midtown. Speaker 0 00:41:59 Chris Young loves Midtown. Yeah. Morgan Wallen loves Broadway. Speaker 3 00:42:03 Does he really? Yeah. Speaker 0 00:42:04 I mean, you've seen the Yeah, Speaker 3 00:42:05 I haven't talked, I mean, Morgan and I are like, we're, we're Instagram friends. Like whoop change's message on Instagram. I haven't called Morgan in probably two years. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:42:13 But, Speaker 3 00:42:14 Um, yeah. That's awesome. If I was, even now even knowing Morgan, if I saw Morgan out on Broadway, I'd be like, this was such a great night. Speaker 0 00:42:21 Yeah. But it's just like some, because some folks love the Chaos of Broadway. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:42:26 Is not one of those guys Speaker 0 00:42:27 Like Trey, Trey Lewis, he's just celebrated 16 years of sobriety. Doesn't drink smoke. Nothing. Completely straight. Yeah. Straight edge. Um, he goes out to Broadway all the time. Really, the reason he likes it is cuz when you're in Midtown you have to talk business. You're seeing other artists, other writers, folks that know who you are. Trey goes down the Broadway, it's a little different for a guy like Morgan Trey goes down the Broadway, nobody knows who he is. He can just go down there. Yeah. Get silly. Watch Taurus do drunk shit. Yeah. And like, be around the cover band music stuff. Speaker 3 00:42:57 I struggle with. The crash is so crowded. Oh, it's not. It's so crowded. And Speaker 0 00:43:00 Especially right now. Right now it's busy season. Yeah. From St. Patrick's Day to about till a little bit before Halloween. So about like Labor Day, maybe a little bit after Labor Day. That's our busy season. Yeah. Slows down in between there. Speaker 3 00:43:11 I had a bunch of collar buddy college buddies from App State. We, we had like a, a guys weekend last weekend cuz I was in town and we went out to Broadway one night. We didn't make it back to Broadway the rest of the time. We Speaker 0 00:43:23 There. Yeah. Where'd you guys go? Speaker 3 00:43:24 Whiskey Row. And Speaker 0 00:43:25 Then we Yep. That's where I was. Yep. That's where I Speaker 3 00:43:26 Worked. And my buddy walked in, he had like a buck knife this big on his hip. They were like, oh, the crazy thing. I was like, oh no, we'll just put it in the bucket. You come back tomorrow and get it. I was like, man, this is definitely new to me. I thought he would take this guy to jail. Speaker 0 00:43:37 2019. It was spring of 2019. It was the nwtf, the Turkey hunting convention. Speaker 3 00:43:42 Okay. Speaker 0 00:43:43 It's always here in Nashville now. And that week we collected so many fucking knives. Smith was, Speaker 3 00:43:51 We, we had to go back and get it. And it was in the bucket. He was like, yo, that knife was like $400. I was like, we'll go Speaker 0 00:43:55 Back and get it. That that N wtf one. If they were leaving some knives, we were getting some new curse Shaws, some this, some new that. Yeah. You see, you see a lot of that. Um, did you, are you like, uh, we Speaker 3 00:44:04 Went to the Barsol one, which I guess is not on Broadway, but it's kind of adjacent. Speaker 0 00:44:07 It's downtown. Yeah. Yeah. You know what that building used to be? Speaker 3 00:44:10 Which Broadway? I mean the bars, row bar. Barst Barstow. No, Uhuh Speaker 0 00:44:14 Used to be Joe's Crab Shack. Oh really? What a great repurposing of a Joe's Crab Shack, bro. Oh yeah. Fucking love that. Speaker 3 00:44:19 Whoever's in charge of HR over at the Barstow place. Well done. Well done on the hiring over there, Speaker 0 00:44:26 <laugh>. Good, good, good folks, Speaker 3 00:44:27 Man. Yes. They were the, the waitresses there. Super nice. Amazing. Yeah. Very cool. Speaker 0 00:44:32 Yeah. It's the, um, the bar. What's the, what was the other thing that Tommy Smokes used to do? Their bar stool smokes or whatever. Speaker 3 00:44:38 Oh yeah. I don't know. Speaker 0 00:44:39 Because yeah, it's, that was another thing too. I had buddies come down to visit mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And they were like, dude, how do you, how do you keep, like how are, how, how are you friends? Just friends and not trying to sleep with all these beautiful women that you're working with. And I'm like, cuz it's just like being in like, like working in a restaurant, you know, working at a bar. It's like a family. Speaker 3 00:44:56 Yeah, for sure. Speaker 0 00:44:57 It's like a family. And I was doing security so I wasn't behind the bar, but I was friends with all the folks behind the bar and all the servers and all that. But Nashville does have that vibe. Like LA or New York or Miami or like Scottsdale or Speaker 3 00:45:09 Austin. I mean that's got everything here now. Like sports pro sports teams, like good college teams. I mean there's soccer here now. There's everything. There's Speaker 0 00:45:17 Soccer games are wild. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:45:19 I've, and I've heard predator games are like something that you have to go to. Oh Speaker 0 00:45:23 Bro's. Amazing. Next if you're in town in the fall, we will get you, we go to a lot. We go to quite a few pres games. Yeah. Um, we like going to those. They get, um, cuz when the crowd's chanting, you gotta think everybody here fucking harmonizes. It's all music people. Like they sing the national anthem. Yeah. You have 20,000 people singing it in perfect unison here. Speaker 3 00:45:42 Do you see where Stapleton released his version of the Speaker 0 00:45:45 National anthem? Oh. Thought that he did Speaker 3 00:45:45 That. Love's Speaker 0 00:45:46 Amazing. Speaker 3 00:45:46 That amazing man. Talk about a cool dude. Speaker 0 00:45:48 That's a baller move Speaker 3 00:45:49 Too, man. Come Speaker 0 00:45:49 On. That's it. I know. I had an iconic generational moment. I You're welcome. I know that this Super Bowl, this superb bowl, um, Anthem is gonna be getting replayed for years to come. For, for the good way. Not the, not because there's some anthems that are really bad. Yeah. That we remember. Speaker 3 00:46:04 Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying, I'm drawing a blank on the young lady's name that did it at like, the Warrior's game and Yeah. It just did not go well. Yeah. Black Eyed Peas, uh, singer. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:46:14 So, uh, Fergie. Speaker 3 00:46:15 Yeah, Fergie had a, had a, a Speaker 0 00:46:16 Tough, I remember, I remember I was working with Adult Contemporary Radio when that happened. We talked about it all morning. Yeah. That's tough. Speaker 3 00:46:22 That was tough. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:46:23 Um, what's your, what's your basketball team as far as pro stuff goes? Are you just such a college guy that the NBA Speaker 3 00:46:29 Is different? I mean, I follow players in the nba. Uh, my favorite player is Kevin Durant, which I know he gets a, he gets a bad rap, but I got a chance to play a summer on a summer league team with him. So like Yeah. Speaker 0 00:46:38 He's a freak. He's a freak. Speaker 3 00:46:39 We became buddies and like, he's a super nice guy. So like wherever he goes, that's kind of who I cheer for. I grew up a Lakers fan cuz the Lakers were on television. So like, when you're a kid you just cheer for whoever you see on tv. Yeah. And so, um, being in LA it's cool to see the Lakers and, and hopefully the Lakers will continue to do well. It's been been a tough couple years, but yeah. Whoever Kevin plays for, that's who I cheer Speaker 0 00:46:59 For. Yeah. So now it's, it's in uh, it's Phoenix, right? Phoenix. Speaker 3 00:47:01 Yeah. Speaker 0 00:47:02 Which is wild. I mean his cuz he's how old now? He's in his mid thirties. Speaker 3 00:47:06 Yeah, he's like 34 maybe. Speaker 0 00:47:08 Yeah. And he's still just dominant. Speaker 3 00:47:10 If he could say healthy, I mean, he can strain together some good years. I think he'll go down, you know, his legacy. He'll be a top 20 player, maybe a top 15 player Speaker 0 00:47:17 Player. Imagine, imagine if Greg Odin had panned out. Greg Odin was so fucking good at Ohio State. He Speaker 3 00:47:22 Was my imagine people in that draft class going, Mike Conley's gonna have a better pro career than Greg Oden. And they were like, you're crazy. But it, that's how it is. Yeah. What mean? Mike Connolly was the highest paid player in the NBA for about six months. Yeah. That's bananas. Speaker 0 00:47:36 Yeah. With the, uh, with the Grizzlies, right? Yeah, Speaker 3 00:47:38 Yeah. Speaker 0 00:47:38 With, with a smaller market team too. Speaker 3 00:47:40 Yeah. Which Speaker 0 00:47:41 Is pretty wild. What do you, what's, how, how big is the hype for this seven foot five kid? This, uh, Victor Wman Yama or Speaker 3 00:47:47 Whatever? Yeah, Victor. Yeah. The hype is, which one of my high school teammates is an assistant coach with the Spurs. So he's really, really pumped. Um, but yes, it's as big as anything we've ever seen. I mean, it's as big as Kre Abdul Jabbar. It's as big if not bigger than what LeBron was. Like the hype is Yao Speaker 0 00:48:02 Ming. Speaker 3 00:48:02 Yeah. It's, it's as big as we've ever seen for any prospect ever. Speaker 0 00:48:05 Yeah. Speaker 3 00:48:06 It's so, we'll see. Speaker 0 00:48:07 I'm hoping he, I mean there's seven five. He definitely got got that, got that height advantage, but he's just so skinny. It's just so young. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:48:14 I hope he does not get injured. We'll see. Speaker 0 00:48:16 Yeah. That's the problem with the big them big boys. I mean that Seattle's Speaker 3 00:48:19 The league's not as physical anymore. So Speaker 0 00:48:20 It's a shooter. It's a shooter's league. Yeah. And he seems like he's a shooter. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:48:23 I don't think he's gonna play in the paint much. So. Speaker 0 00:48:25 Yeah. And then we'll see. And then how will Carolina be this year? Speaker 3 00:48:28 I mean, I think it comes down to coaching. Obviously they had a ton of talent last year and it was not fun to watch. Um, not gonna say anything negative about Caleb love, but I think for him and for the program, he's now gone. He's in Arizona, so, uh, I think hopefully it works out for him. I think the team will be better in college. Chemistry really, really matters. They're kids and they had chemistry issues last year. So you return four out of five starters from a national title run and you don't make the tournament, then you gotta start looking at the coaches. So we have the same coaches, so we'll see. Uh, I like Hubert Davis, but I think he's got a lot to prove this Speaker 0 00:49:03 Year. Yeah. It's cool when you have the legacies and the coaching. Yeah. And like just, Speaker 3 00:49:07 I just wanna win games though, so you get me the best coach. Yeah. I don't care if he got a degree from the university. If he's good with kids and there's no funny business going on. Like that's, I just want, I just wanna win. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:49:17 I feel, I feel that that's how I feel about, about the Yankees, man. Yeah. Game well how Speaker 3 00:49:21 Yankee Yankee's gonna do game. Speaker 0 00:49:23 We're doing good. We're Speaker 3 00:49:24 Doing, we saw a perfect game the other Speaker 0 00:49:25 Day. Yeah. We had Afu Perfect game from the guy 14th Speaker 3 00:49:27 All time, right? Is that right? Speaker 0 00:49:29 24th all time. Okay. Fourth for the Yankees. Okay. All four guys to throw a perfect game for the Yankees. All the first names all start with the letter D. You have Don Larson, David Wells, David Cohen, and now Domingo Herman. Yeah. And all four times that the Yankees have done it. They have won the World Series. Yeah. But we've also won a lot of World Series and it's been a long time since. It's been a minute since. Speaker 3 00:49:47 But you, what do you, you have 26 or 27 Speaker 0 00:49:49 Right now? 27 right now. Yeah. 27. Alright. 27. I've been, I've been, I remember I've been coherent for two of them, but like, because the nineties ones, cause the nineties ones I was a baby. Yeah. Like I was born 95. Yeah. So I don't remember. I can't say that I remember the 1996 World Series. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:50:03 Of course. No, Speaker 0 00:50:03 But I was technically alive for 'em. But I mean, they're like 10 games, over 510 games back. And then third place in the division. Every team in the division has a winning record. Yeah. That's Speaker 3 00:50:14 Crazy. That's bananas. I wanna win The last time that happened. Speaker 0 00:50:17 Yeah. It's, well, we'll see if it has the whole year. Yeah. But it's, but it's wild. And then you have, like, that's what's interesting about baseball is you, you don't have the salary cap, but then you have a team like Tampa Bay whose entire salary is about what Aaron Judge is getting paid. Yeah. Per year. Speaker 3 00:50:31 Moneyball. Yeah. Money. It's Moneyball. Speaker 0 00:50:33 Yeah. Like it's just, it's wild to see that. And then like you have these big markets that dominate then it doesn't translate like the nba like the Knicks can't fucking get it together like it has been. So I want to see new you guys, Speaker 3 00:50:44 New York. You might get Damn though. Speaker 0 00:50:45 That would be so cool. I wanna see the Knicks do well because when it's like New York, like baseball, we're divided. We have the Yankees and the Nets. Yeah. Hockey. You're divided. You got the, the Rangers, the islanders, you throw the devils in there. Technically you have the nets for basketball and then like football, you have the Giants and the jet jets. Speaker 3 00:50:59 You have the Nets Don't rival Speaker 0 00:51:01 But Nets. The Nets aren't the Knicks. Like I've, I really wish I could have grown up in the nineties for Yeah. Woodstock 99 for butt rock, for the, the prime era of East Coast rap for private golden era of country music. Yeah. All that cool shit. But to see the Knicks like Speaker 3 00:51:15 Rock, rock had a good run in the nineties. <laugh> like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, like with man, Speaker 0 00:51:20 We we're big butt rock guys at raised rap. Yeah. Don't dunno if you're familiar with, with what the term butt rock is. No. So it's when you had radio stations like 95, 9, the Rat, nothing but rock. Oh, okay. So it's rock, it's like it's Creed. Speaker 3 00:51:32 Okay. Limp Speaker 0 00:51:33 Bizkit. Mm-hmm. Hindered three doors down, Nickelback, like that style of stuff. We do a night at Live Oak. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, twice a year. I think we're gonna do one in the fall. We get a, like a Broadway band. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's like the house band. Yeah. And then we get different country artists to hop up and sing covers Yeah. Of the two thousands rock songs. Oh, Speaker 3 00:51:50 That's awesome. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:51:51 Which is fun. Cause I just saw Nickelback the other day. Oh yeah. Um, or up at, um, tailgate and Tall Boys, they were good. They had a lot of technical issues mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But they were after Jelly Roll and it is so hard to follow Jelly Roll, bro. Yeah. You seen Jelly Live yet? Speaker 3 00:52:05 Never seen Jelly Live. Speaker 0 00:52:07 It's, it's like you go, you, you referenced your, uh, your pastor like gonna church. Yeah. It to me was like a religious like jelly. Really? I've never seen one man have that much control over a crowd that big. Cuz it was about 35,000 up there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Speaker 3 00:52:21 Didn't he start out as a rapper? Speaker 0 00:52:22 He started out, he started out as a drug dealer. Um, right. Yeah. And then he was, he did the, did the rap thing. Yeah. And was like, came up with Yellow Wolf and Struggle Jennings and a lot of folks in the like three six Mafia. The the southern rap community. Yeah. Um, and then during Covid he put out that, um, he was like, we can't, well we gotta keep doing stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So he put up that Save Me video. Yeah. And that, Speaker 3 00:52:44 Yeah. That song was amazing. People were Speaker 0 00:52:45 Like, oh shit, he Speaker 3 00:52:45 Can now Laney's on it. Right? Speaker 0 00:52:47 Yep. Now they, they recut cuz he's over at bbr with, uh, with Laney. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so, I mean, but people didn't know, like he, and he's worked very hard to get his vocals to where they're at. Yeah. He's got an incredible team around him and he's, Speaker 3 00:52:58 Everybody I know that knows him, they speak highly of him. So he's, I don't, I don't know him Jelly. Uh, I know we've exchanged some Instagram messages and, but everybody that I know that knows him says that he's the man. So Yeah. Congrats on all your success, brother. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:53:10 His show is fucking nuts. Speaker 3 00:53:12 They said there's a, a documentary I think. Yeah. It's Speaker 0 00:53:15 On Hulu. Speaker 3 00:53:15 Yeah. And supposedly it's incredible. Speaker 0 00:53:17 Very powerful. Oh, okay. I gotta take that. And as, as a media guy, you'd appreciate that they they should Speaker 3 00:53:21 As a me. Am I a media guy? I think so. I don't know what I am. You're like, Hey, we're gonna talk about you being a personality. I was like, I don't really feel like I'm a personality. You're, I don't know what I am. I'm a country music fan. Speaker 0 00:53:30 Yeah. If someone asked you what do you do? What do you, what do you say, Speaker 3 00:53:34 Man, probably steal money from Amazon. They're like paying me to play country music. Um, if Amazon's watching this, I'm underpaid. Just kidding. Speaker 0 00:53:41 Be Bezos says it. Bezos says, no, he can, he needs somebody to Yeah. Speaker 3 00:53:45 I don't, I don't think I register on Bezos as a monitor, which is funny. Uh, it, I'm not gonna say the name, but when I got hired, one of my friends, uh, he reaches out and he's like, oh, I know <laugh> and I know he does. But he was like, oh, I, I told Jeff he hired someone really good. I was like, bro, Jeff has no idea that I work for Amazon. Stop it. Speaker 0 00:54:01 I'm about, yeah, 35, 40, maybe 50 people Speaker 3 00:54:04 Away from him. The fact he said that I was just like, dude, you don't, yeah. Just, just, just don't say that stuff. Speaker 0 00:54:09 Okay. Well, we'll we can play this game. Who's the high most high profile person you think in your phone? Speaker 3 00:54:15 Man? Well, that's a edged sword. Be something wild. Yeah, that's a double-edged sword. Because Speaker 0 00:54:19 I feel like there'd be something like somebody wild, like one of the people from Shark Tank or something. Like I feel like you would what Cuban what industry? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:54:28 I'm, I'm, listen, this is gonna sound Speaker 0 00:54:30 Terrible. And you're not and you're not a name dropping guy at all. I don't get that vibe from you. I tried not Speaker 3 00:54:33 To be No trying cuz that's no one cares. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And honestly, it's a wonderful thing. But I am the grenade of all of my friends. I'm like, man, all of my friends are super successful and I'm still like trying to figure Speaker 0 00:54:43 Out. But they say sur they say that with writers when they come to town, be the be the weakest writer in the world. I am Speaker 3 00:54:48 The weakest link of all Speaker 0 00:54:50 Of my friends. The try to be the dumbest guy in the room. Like surround yourself, like you are the company that you keep and like learn, try to learn from folks around you. Speaker 3 00:54:57 I have done that. I ha And it has not panned out quite yet. So hopefully something really dope will happen. But yeah, I've, I've been very blessed to be in rooms and be around people that are doing like other worldly type stuff. Speaker 0 00:55:11 Okay. So like a bus, like a, like a business person. Be Speaker 3 00:55:13 Probably Scooter Brawn. No Speaker 0 00:55:14 Shit. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:55:15 So I'm rep by SB Projects. I've known Scooter since I'm 20. Speaker 0 00:55:18 Really? Yeah. How do, how do you meet him? Speaker 3 00:55:21 Um, he was friends with Jay Will from Duke. And so I, you know, Jay Will and I were workout partners. Like I would train at Duke and Jay would like crash at my house. I had a house in Raleigh in the summers and like Scooter was just always around and he's a good dude. Yeah. So we became friends back then. And when I got the TV gig for nbc, uh, he, his company signed me to a talent deal. And so like, we had never done business before. And again, it's like, I'm several rungs removed from being like a day-to-day with Scooter. But like I coach his kids in basketball. Like I go to his house for Thanksgiving. Speaker 0 00:55:57 That's Speaker 3 00:55:57 Cool. Yeah, he's like family to me. He's, he's, he's the best. Like, I forget people's reaction. Like he's, this is how cool Scooter is. Uh, I got asked to host stage coach and so Scooter loves country music. Obviously he owns Big Machine and uh, he has a house down at the Indio polo fields. And he walked over and, you know, he goes to Stagecoach every year. He was like, Hey, where, where, where's your set? Like where are you hosting from? And I told him and he was like, all right, well if you get Tom come say hello, we're gonna be like off to the right. Like we're gonna go watch. Uh, I think Jackson Dean is one of the guys he Speaker 0 00:56:28 Has. Yeah. Fantastic. Speaker 3 00:56:29 Insane. Good Speaker 0 00:56:30 Love Speaker 3 00:56:30 Jackson. Yeah, man, he can do no wrong. So, but Scooter went out of his way. Uh, Luke Bryant was headlining night one and Luke and Scooter are like really close. They're, they're good butts. And so he was like, man, uh, are you gonna be doing the Luke interview? And I said, yeah, I'll be over here. There's gonna be a few of us, but I'll be, you know, I'll be sitting next to Luke. So he walks over and I just, the reaction of people to Scooter and then obviously to Luke Bryan. And they just pulled me aside and it's like me and these two just chopping it up before I did the interview. So it looked like I was, you know, homies with Luke Bryant. But it's only because I was hanging with Scooter and he kind of like, yeah. Greased the wheels. And, and a couple years ago I wasn't working and uh, scooter and I were at Stagecoach and I was on the bus with Luke and nobody wanted to drink. So he was like, well, bad news. You have no choice. You are not allowed to say no. So like, I did a ton of tequila shots with him and he, he remembered, he was like, Hey, you are the one that helped me get ready to headline stage skills <laugh>. I was like, I'm glad one of us remembers that. Cause that was painful for me, man. He was like, oh, that's funny. Speaker 0 00:57:31 That's awesome man. But Speaker 3 00:57:32 Yeah, scooter would probably be the biggest. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:57:34 What, what is Coach Graham like coaching basketball? Speaker 3 00:57:37 Uh, I think Coach Graham is just like, uh, friend Graham. Very encouraging. Don't focus on the negatives. Like if it's corrective it's like, Hey, this would be better if we do it this way. And I mean, who doesn't wanna be friends with someone that's like positive? Yes, yes. I don't, I don't think I'd be a good coach cuz I would have a hard time reprimanding people. Speaker 0 00:57:53 Yeah. Pos Well you say like coach, how old are the kids that like, you're coaching like you coach? Well, Speaker 3 00:57:57 They're Speaker 0 00:57:58 Like eight. Oh, so kids. So you're coaching like kids. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:58:00 They're just out there to have fun. Like when he's, you know, Speaker 0 00:58:02 You're not AAU ball coaching or Speaker 3 00:58:03 Nothing. Yeah. The first time he asked me to come over there he is like, Hey, do you think you, you know, my son loves basketball and his son does love basketball and his son's got some talent. Like, I think if he ends up loving basketball, he's, he's got a chance. Scooter's a really good basketball player. I don't know if Really? Yeah, man, he's got a ratchet on him. Really? He's from Connecticut. Like he played in the Jersey, AAU circuit, all that. Oh, Speaker 0 00:58:23 Okay. Speaker 3 00:58:23 Yeah, he's, he's got a, he's got a gun on him. Like he, he can fire that thing, but his son has some real natural talent. So he was like, Hey, you know, he's starting to really pick it up and we're starting, this is gonna be like the first year he's doing, you know, kids league where he's playing in real games where you come over and kind of like get the mechanics right. So he learns the right way and we don't have to go back. And I went over there, I was like, man, there's no teaching him mechanics. He's too young for it right now. And he was like, all right, well just have fun. You know, like go out there and have fun. It's, it's cool for him to think he has a coach and, and it is cuz he'll call me Coach and everything. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's cool. And he's a great dad and like Yeah. It's awesome. Speaker 0 00:58:57 Yeah. Have you balled up with anybody here in town? Speaker 3 00:59:00 Yeah, so I'm in a standing run with a bunch of artists out here. Like we play, last time I was here I was at Kane's house. You ever Yeah. Heard Speaker 0 00:59:06 About that run? I've heard, I've heard very much about the, the legendary games at Kane Brown's establishment. Speaker 3 00:59:12 Okay. So who have you spoken to? I'm trying to think if I've played with you. Do you know anybody that plays? Speaker 0 00:59:16 Well? I know, well I know skis is, I don't know if skis has been over there or Speaker 3 00:59:19 Not. Well, I connected, did you see, see that post I did with skis with the handshake? Yes. Yeah. I love skis. Yes. Yes. If anybody listen to this skis, one of my favorite humans ever Speaker 0 00:59:26 Skis has been on the pod. I've smoked many of cigarettes with skis. Um, I think he's, Speaker 3 00:59:30 He's got a new song out today. Yep. Speaker 0 00:59:31 Yep. Um, Speaker 3 00:59:31 Happy to be here. You gotta stream that thing. Yes. Speaker 0 00:59:34 We, we love, we love skis. He's a legend. He's what we call a purebred horse. Cat papers and all like that man is just, you walk, he's a vibe. He's great. Super positive, just fun to be around. But I know skis has mentioned about that, um, Matt still, we had, uh, we had heard, I saw him story, you comment on that story, I commented on that. Yeah. On, on on the tails from the front row with Nikki t and Kurts on Yeah. Um, Mitch Wall, our buddy Mitch Wallace, who um, does a lot of content stuff with Trey. Yeah. Does a lot of Kane's content stuff as well. So like I've heard from, like, I've just heard from him that like, they get really intense over Speaker 3 01:00:07 The basketball. Speaker 0 01:00:07 I'll, I'll leave at this. It's a Speaker 3 01:00:08 Good game. You can ask anybody. I, I won't say how I did. You can ask anybody that plays in that run. Uh, about, but I, I've played in it for years now. You can ask him when I show up in town how that goes down. Speaker 0 01:00:18 How often do you guys play? Play? They used to play a ton. Did you play on this run while you were out, while you were out at Motor in Town Speaker 3 01:00:24 Or? No, I didn't play this this time cuz uh, I'm not sure if anyone played this this week, but they were playing like once or twice a week at over at Ashley Gorley's at first. And then, then they moved over to Cannes. Kane built like an unbelievable, Speaker 0 01:00:36 He's like, we're gonna do this at my house. Speaker 3 01:00:38 But I think he picked up golf so much now he's got like a golf simulator. So I think everybody, they have golf nights now. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:00:43 And the way that the world is back from where it was a few years ago. Yeah. We had a lot of time on our hands in 2020. It Speaker 3 01:00:49 Was a great run. I mean the guys from Lanco played, um, let's see, Sam Hunt was playing. Oh, Speaker 0 01:00:55 I heard Sam Hunt can Ball. Speaker 3 01:00:56 Yeah, he can't Speaker 0 01:00:56 Ball Ball. I hear Sam can Speaker 3 01:00:57 Shoot. He's an athlete. Speaker 0 01:00:58 He's an athlete. No, Noah West. Speaker 3 01:01:00 He can shoot. Noah's my Speaker 0 01:01:01 Guy Noah. Noah's a good friend of ours too. I've, I love Noah. We've known him for a long time. Yeah, Speaker 3 01:01:05 He's great. He can, he can flat out stroke it. Yeah. You you can, you can ask Noah though. He'll be able to tell you. Speaker 0 01:01:09 So those are some competitive games then if you guys Are you? Yeah, Speaker 3 01:01:12 It was good. It was good. Yeah, it was good. I took Scooter out there, so I took Scooter one year. Oh Speaker 0 01:01:17 Really? Speaker 3 01:01:17 Yeah. Scooters played in that. He did. Well Speaker 0 01:01:19 He and he held, he held his own. Oh yeah, Speaker 3 01:01:21 Yeah, yeah. Scooter's good. Like he don't mess around and he's competitive so like he don't back down from nothing. Speaker 0 01:01:25 Oh, so he plays defense. Speaker 3 01:01:26 Yeah. He don't back down from nothing. Who doesn't Speaker 0 01:01:27 Who doesn't play defense on country? In country music, basketball? Let Speaker 3 01:01:31 Me see. Speaker 0 01:01:31 Like, is there somebody that you're like, okay, cool, this guy's guarding me, I got this. Speaker 3 01:01:35 Nah, I mean, like you said, it was competitive and you know, people wanted to win and they do talk a lot of trash. Speaker 0 01:01:40 Oh, I'm sure Speaker 3 01:01:41 Jackie Lee doesn't play a lot of defense. Jackie Lee, if you're listening to this, do you, do you, are you familiar with Jackie Lee? I remember Jack. Yeah. Man. Um, rumor is he's got some new music coming out and I think he's one, I've seen him play rounds and all the, you know, all over the place. I, I saw him play at the listening room last week. He's one of the most talented guys, uh, that I think, you know, I hope people are made aware of like what he's doing. Cause I think he's got what it takes to stick, you know. Speaker 0 01:02:05 Oh yeah. What was his, he had a big, he had a big one back in the day, right? Speaker 3 01:02:07 Yeah. Getting over you, I Speaker 0 01:02:08 Think Getting over you. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Speaker 3 01:02:10 Yeah. So that one, that one crushed. But I think, uh, and I've heard good things. I haven't heard everything, but I've heard good things from people, uh, over at Make Wake. Yes. That he's got like some bangers in his back pocket. Speaker 0 01:02:21 Yeah. Like make Wake. That's, that's family to us. They have, dude, the roster over there right now is just growing. Speaker 3 01:02:26 Well I think he's on that roster now. Yeah. And Speaker 0 01:02:28 So he's over there. So is Yeah, that Speaker 3 01:02:30 Is the guy that I was talking to doesn't hold his words very much. He's told me before, he is like, man, we're sending you something to listen to. We're not on it, but you give us your feedback. And so I know when he says he likes something, I, I was like, oh, all right. And so he's, he was highly complimentary of whatever they got going on over there. So I'm, I'm excited to hear it. I haven't heard it yet, but I'm looking Speaker 0 01:02:49 Forward to it. That's awesome. Yeah, cuz they've got Colby Uff over there now. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. They've got Keller Cox over there. They got the Flatland folks. Speaker 3 01:02:55 Yeah, I heard, uh, Colby's gonna get catch a big break next year. Well, I'll just put that rumor out there. Yeah. I heard, Speaker 0 01:03:00 Heard things are coming up for him. Colby Colby's, uh, very, very involved in the raised, rowdy family. We love Colby. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:03:06 And you probably already know, say congratulations on this 2024, man. Yes. Speaker 0 01:03:09 Oh yeah. We know. We know. We know. He is got a big, we know old Colby's got a big year ahead of him because the first time he ever came to na, first trip he ever came to Nashville was, cause Nikki T asked him to play at Live Oak. Oh really? He's like, I never want to, I don't want to come to Nashville mm-hmm. Until I get invited to come to Nashville. He's from Idaho and yeah, Speaker 3 01:03:26 I don't, I'm not talented enough for that. Speaker 0 01:03:28 I Speaker 3 01:03:28 Was knocking on the door in Nashville. Yeah, that's met. Speaker 0 01:03:30 That's how I was. Do you know, um, have you met Colby? Speaker 3 01:03:33 I have, but I've met his, his entire team actually I met them in uh, LA and it's so funny because look, I, I'm poor. I don't have a ton of money. Yeah. And his team was like, Hey, you gotta come to San Antonio tomorrow. Colby's playing. I was like, great. Are you flying me there? Speaker 0 01:03:47 Yeah. What are my accommodations at this? Yeah. Like look, Speaker 3 01:03:50 We're in northern California at like something else. And they were like, you gotta come tomorrow to San Antonio. And I was like, what are you talking about? I don't, I don't buy just, I'm gonna get on my jet and I'll go to San Antonio. Like, what are you talking about Speaker 0 01:04:01 <laugh>? Yeah. Be like, I don't have that. But, um, Colby's from, from Idaho originally and he's used a guy, he did real estate and then worked his ass on kid's. A fucking hustler. And he has it figured out. Speaker 3 01:04:11 Yeah. I'm Speaker 0 01:04:11 A fan. Yeah, he's great. Um, but he used to guide fly fishing trips. Nice. Folks that would go up and do those. Ji I Nice. He was that guy that would get up that would take Speaker 3 01:04:19 Random job stories. They're Speaker 0 01:04:20 The best. Oh yeah. I mean there's a ton of them. Mean like Charlie Mcast from us and I, and he had a big grass cutting his operation down in Alabama. Yeah. He lived at, lived at Auburn. Didn't go to, went to Auburn then. Didn't go to Auburn. Stayed at Auburn to play the gigs, but then was just cutting grass. You know, like Speaker 3 01:04:35 Dustin Lynch one to one time told me that he was like a waste management. Like he would test the, the waste and water systems from different animals and stuff. Like he was, he would test, he was like a biological like engineer, but he would test going Speaker 0 01:04:48 Around wearing a polo with a little test kit. Testing, Speaker 3 01:04:51 Testing some bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, so it's really cool to hear people's stories before they, you know, obviously have immense success like Dustin and uh, some of these other guys. Speaker 0 01:04:59 Yeah. Speaking of artists, um, who are some of your, like if you were to give like three folks we, you think we should really look out for like Graham Buns, like, Speaker 3 01:05:07 Well, Jackie Lee's one of 'em for Speaker 0 01:05:09 Sure. Jackie one. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:05:10 Uh, again. Speaker 0 01:05:10 Or even five. We could do five. Cuz I know there's a lot. Speaker 3 01:05:12 Yeah, there's a ton. I mean Matt Schuster is someone that I listen to, but you already know about him. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:05:17 I mean he Well I'm saying just in general, just people. Speaker 3 01:05:19 Oh yeah. I love, yeah. I love what Matt's doing. Logan Michael is also one of my, my favorites. Uh, is Maye Estess. Is she Speaker 0 01:05:26 Maye Estes bro? She is Speaker 3 01:05:27 Estes. Is she, is she known or is that, does that qualify Speaker 0 01:05:30 For? So some to look out for? So we had her on the pod a few months ago and she made her Opry debut recently. And she talk about stories of odd Speaker 3 01:05:37 Jobs. Is she is she does She qualifies that cuz I love her. I think she's gonna be great. Speaker 0 01:05:40 That's, that's a good pick. That's good one. That's good one. That's a good one. Speaker 3 01:05:43 I didn't know if she was already too big. No. Because most people might know about her. I don't Speaker 0 01:05:46 Know what's, it's what's interesting too is you get, and you, you get it by Extension being so and involved in the industry that you are, even though you're out, out on the west coast. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:05:54 Am I, I always feel like I'm like, I'm like, Speaker 0 01:05:56 No, you're, you're in it bro. Yeah. You're in it. You're in it. Um, the folks that we hear about mm-hmm. <affirmative> that the industry buzzes about. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:06:03 Because I'm not in town. Like, you guys hear about people a long time before I do. Speaker 0 01:06:06 No, but you're still on the phone with, with labels, with teams. You're, you're working with a big, like, streaming is now what radio was when you, when you and I were were in it. Yeah. You know, like it's, it's, it's moved over but like, you hear about the buzz of these people. Like I remember hearing about Hardy when I first moved to town. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Cause I was 2018 and that was short hair singing throwback four by four, all that stuff. Yeah. We were Speaker 3 01:06:27 Like Red Necker. Speaker 0 01:06:28 Yeah. All that stuff. Speaker 3 01:06:29 I loved that ep. Yeah, Speaker 0 01:06:30 I did too. I did too. It Speaker 3 01:06:31 Was awesome. There was one other one on there. Uh, it was throwback four by four Red Necker and there was one more that I just absolutely Speaker 0 01:06:38 Loved. Yeah. Um, nowhere to find me. Yeah. Here we go. I'm in the woods, da da da. Um, but you hear the buzz about these folks and we get to see 'em and we're like thinking that they're these huge names, but the rest of the country doesn't know about 'em yet. Like someone very close to us. Ella Langley. Yeah. Love Ella. She's like our, she's like our little si she Trey's roommate. Our little Speaker 3 01:06:56 I thought she would be too big to, you know. Yeah. This is why we fight with the co Wezel Jam Speaker 0 01:07:01 And Speaker 3 01:07:01 Her streaming story. Country Boy's Dream Girl Jam. Speaker 0 01:07:03 Yeah. Her, her. And she's got first of three on that John party tour that's starting up here in a few weeks. And that's gonna, that is going to, um, that is going to absolutely like crush and change her world. And then like someone like Dylan Marlowe Yeah. Who's huge in town and has these big tour slots, but the rest of the country does. Like you get to see them pop in town. Yeah. And like the buzzer here in the scene before they go boom. Speaker 3 01:07:24 So that's one of the cool things for me living in Southern California, I guess having, being, uh, Nashville adjacent is I get to hear about people way before the West Coast. So I'm like, people are like, oh, he told me about so-and-so. Which I was probably late to the party, but I was early the party if I'm in California. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:07:40 You know? Yeah. Is the Western stuff really popular out there in Cali? Speaker 3 01:07:44 When you say Western, what do you Speaker 0 01:07:45 Mean? I'm talking like, like what Colby does, what Tyler Halon does. What Flatland Cavalry does. What Um, well I think Zack Speaker 3 01:07:52 Bryan, I think Zack Bryan's made that popular all over Speaker 0 01:07:55 Global. That's like western emo. That's a whole different thing in my Speaker 3 01:07:57 Opinion. Yeah. But if you're in California and we'll just say you're a casual country music fan. The the, the sub-genres don't really count. Yeah. It's either pop country or traditional sound. Yeah. Those are the two things that the, the casual country music fan. If you're not a casual country music fan, then you have people's styles that you like and you dive deeper into that. Yeah. But there's, that's a more niche group of Speaker 0 01:08:17 Listeners. Yeah. How do you feel about that whole style of stuff? Speaker 3 01:08:20 Zack, Bryan Big Speaker 0 01:08:21 You Zach. I love Zach Speaker 3 01:08:22 Bryan. Yeah. He's like bucket lists Morgan and, and Zack. And uh, it's crazy cuz Kip is a buddy of mine. Those three, those three albums, like I just on repeat like I, you know, don't stop listening to Speaker 0 01:08:33 Him. Yeah. I'm wondering how this new one's gonna be because he's self-producing it. Speaker 3 01:08:36 Yeah. I I know it's gonna be, Speaker 0 01:08:39 It's gonna Speaker 3 01:08:39 Be different. It's gonna be very different cuz he is also only releasing like 14 songs. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:08:43 We're I thought it Speaker 3 01:08:44 Was gonna be 40. Speaker 0 01:08:44 We're getting a single album as opposed to a double or a triple. Speaker 3 01:08:47 Yeah. Or triple. Yeah. When Morgan put out a 36 song album, I was like, this is amazing cuz Zach Bryant's gonna put out 45 now Speaker 0 01:08:54 They're just gonna Yeah. And then Luke's gonna come out with a 60 song discard. Yeah. I Speaker 3 01:08:58 Was like, oh, for sure. He's not, he's not doing that. Speaker 0 01:09:00 Or then Garth is gonna, Garth will come back and say, Hey, look out kids. I'm, I'm still in this and put out 60 songs. Something ridiculous, you know? Yeah, yeah. It is, it is crazy to see. But yes, he gave four would may be your fifth or who would your fifth be? Her maid's. Your fourth Speaker 3 01:09:13 Did May was and she qualifies. Speaker 0 01:09:15 Okay. Yeah, she's very much Oh yeah. Just somebody that you're like this person Speaker 3 01:09:17 Because I feel like she's really well known though. You Speaker 0 01:09:19 Know, she's really well known here in town cuz she's been busting her ass in town and Yeah, that's awesome. Playing around and working as a, she worked as a, um, as a server forever, bro. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:09:28 She, she, that makes me love Speaker 0 01:09:29 Her. She worked as a server and had the grind for everything that she has. She moved from a small town and was playing the Texarkana Opry back in Arkansas and now she's played the Grand Old Opry in Nashville and she's got a team around her now. And I've really, she's over in Sweden right now, I think with Timothy Baker, like doing some bringing country music over to Sweden, which is kind of cool. But Yeah. That's dope. I I think she's gonna, I can't wait. I hope that she gets the commercial success she deserves if she wants that, you know, cause some artists don't want the commercial thing. Speaker 3 01:09:57 Yeah, I get that too. They Speaker 0 01:09:58 Want, they want the, they want to be the, the, in the underground. They wanna be kings of the underworld. Yeah. The La Cadillac three in Musket Island and folks like that. Speaker 3 01:10:05 I just had a conversation with somebody and it goes back to what you said about Trey going down to Broadway and they're like, man, you think it's, you know, they, it wa they weren't talking to me luckily, cuz I would've felt really uncomfortable had they said this to me. But they're like, you think it's so cool to like, be famous and it's really sucks, man. He was like, I can't do anything. Like I go places and I gotta worry about, you know, snapping on somebody or doing, you know, some, if I yell at someone or someone wants my p their camera's in my face, I can't even react. Like they were making a, a very, a very good case for being famous is not all what is cracked up to be. Yeah, Speaker 0 01:10:36 Dude. I mean, you, you think about like, Luke Combs used to be at Whiskey Jam every week. Yeah. His life was playing revival on Tuesdays and then hanging out with Ward and the Whiskey Jam folks on Mondays and Thursdays. Yeah. Like that's what he, what he loved mm-hmm. <affirmative> and now it's like you, you can't go certain places. Speaker 3 01:10:53 Yeah. I have heard you just get mobbed that, uh, Luke is the happiest he's ever been though, so Oh no, I Speaker 0 01:10:57 Would agree. I would be happy. Yeah. What I'm just saying is like, you get to like, how like it's different life. It changes when people know who you are. Yeah. And you see it in, in all kinds of, in all walks of Oh for sure. All walks of life, not just country music. Speaker 3 01:11:08 Yeah. The guy that was having this conversation was an actor and he was making the case of like, man, you know, he, he hit it big young and he was like, dude, I can't do like the cool shit that you guys can do. I can't go to the beach without, you know, having issues. Speaker 0 01:11:21 Coolest, coolest like actor like party experience in Hollywood. Cuz you've been out there for a while now. Yeah. And my uncle, I remember telling, oh man, there's a few, I remember my uncle telling me a story back in the late nineties, early two thousands. He was living in New York City living in, um, living in, um, I think he was on, um, I forget exactly where in the city, but he had one night where he ended up at a house party with Zach Galifianakis and said it was one of the greatest nights of his life. Speaker 3 01:11:42 Oh, that, yeah. Well he's a Carolina guy. Yeah, he Speaker 0 01:11:44 Is. Yeah. I love that Proud Carolina guy. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:11:46 He's a big NC State fan. Yes. You're talking about NC State. Speaker 0 01:11:49 Yep. So is, uh, BJ Barn from American Aquarium. They're both big Wolf Pack guys. Speaker 3 01:11:52 Every time if you see a gal Nacas movie, he works out some way to make an NC State joke. Yeah. You're like, Hey, we want you to come like in the hanger. We want you to come to this uh, bachelor party. He was like, what weekend is it? Because the Jonas brothers are playing NC State this weekend. I can't go. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:12:08 And he says The Wolf Pack. Yeah. Yeah. Like part of the Wolf Pack. I just realized, oh shit. Yeah. He makes the whole wolf pack thing. Yeah. It's Speaker 3 01:12:13 Awesome. Yeah, it's hilarious. Uh, I mean I've had a few, I think that I, I got a chance to go. Michael B. Jordan has become a, a good buddy of mine Speaker 0 01:12:21 For the years. No, yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, Speaker 3 01:12:22 And he took me to the Creed premiere this, this year and it's the only time I was, I'd ever been late for work the next day I was late for work the next day. I, I, I gotta see how Mike lives. And it was really cool and he treated me like I was like in the movie or something. Yeah. It was great. He's the nicest and most cool giving a-list celebrity. You know, him and Chris Pratt are both two of the nicest, most famous people on the planet type people I've ever been around. Speaker 0 01:12:47 Is Chris Pratt more like Jurassic World, Chris Pratt? Or is he more like Parks and Rec? Chris Pratt, Speaker 3 01:12:52 He's a, he's right down the middle. A little of both. Speaker 0 01:12:54 Yeah, because I liked Andy from Parks and Rec. That was like the introduction. That was my introduction Chris, I'll Speaker 3 01:12:59 Tell you off camera. Um, but Chris Pratt one time, one massive country music fan. Oh Speaker 0 01:13:04 Yeah, I know. He is huge. Yeah. Huge, huge country lifestyle. Speaker 3 01:13:06 So that's how we met. We, we go to the same church and one night he was, I guess somebody, he was talking about country music and they were like, oh, you gotta meet Graham. He, you know, he's involved with country music, does the radio station out here. And so he, he came over and introduced himself and I was like, yeah, but yeah, I know who you are, but cool. And so we started talking. Couldn't, couldn't have been nicer. And again, I'm not gonna reveal the name cuz it's embarrassing, but I'll tell you off camera. Yeah. He told, so he weeks go by and, uh, he's like, man, I wanna, I wanna set you up with, you know, I wasn't dating anybody at the time. He's like, I wanna set you up. Like gimme your, who's your dream girl? I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, any girl on the planet, just, and this is a true story. He goes, I I want you to gimme what your type is. And, um, at the time I think, uh, you know, well actually still, still now, but I said, uh, Mika Kelly is my type. Okay. Like, I like the girl next door, Speaker 0 01:13:54 Friday Night Lights. Yeah. The Derek Jeter disciple, by the way. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:13:56 Well there's a lot of Derrick Jet. Yes. There are disciples there, there. Um, but that was like an example of someone who I found to be like in crazy beautiful. Yeah. And he's like, all right, cool. I'm a I'm, and I'll tell you again, I'll tell you off camera. He was like, all right, I'm gonna make you a deal. This is, and it's kind of fun that he did this. He was like, you know how you always, he can solve a Rubik's cube like in under a minute. It's like a party trick he does for people. He was like, you know how my mom was visiting me? And she came out and she asked, we went to his birthday party and she asked him to do it. So he did it. And he was like, you know how you always say that? That's so cool. Speaker 3 01:14:28 Cause I'd always be like, man, that's so cool. He was like, if you can solve a Rubik's cube in 48 hours, I know the girl that you, uh, mentioned, not me and Kelly, but looks like Yeah. That he was like, I know her. I'll call her for you. He's like, but you got 48 hours to solve this thing. I had never picked up a Ruby's cube in my life. I'll solve a Rubik's cube right now in 37 seconds if you put one in front of me, <laugh>. And I sent him a video and I was like, you're up <laugh>. Hell yeah. And he did. He called, he called the girl for me. So, uh, big shout out, Mr. Chris Pratt. You're an amazing human being and I love you. Speaker 0 01:14:59 Hell yeah. That's awesome, dude. Well man, I appreciate you hanging. We, we kicked, kicked it for a while and no, Speaker 3 01:15:04 Thank you for having me again. I, when you asked me, I was like, dude, your your fan base is gonna hate you. This is gonna be like a toss away. They're not gonna wanna hear this. Speaker 0 01:15:10 No. Well, that's what we, what we're doing with outside the round is yeah. Getting outside of just having songwriters and artists, which I love having country artists and songwriters and that's Sure. That's always gonna be the bread and butter, especially being in the raised, rowdy family, but having on folks that I've caught. Speaker 3 01:15:23 Well, you gotta do my show now, Speaker 0 01:15:24 Dude. I would absolutely love that. That'd Speaker 3 01:15:26 Yeah. Come on man. We'll figure it out. We'll find, find a date, you know. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:15:29 And appreciate you coming and talking on a microphone after waking up and your day job being Oh yeah. Talking on a microphone for a few hours. Speaker 3 01:15:35 Yeah. No man. It's, it's totally cool. And like I said, I'm, I'm humbled that you would think I qualify for this. I walked in, I was like, oh, this is like for real, for real. Yeah. It's nice. This is nice, man. It's nice. Yeah. I was like, oh, well, like everybody must have canceled. It is, it is 4th of July. Most people are out of town. I get Speaker 0 01:15:51 It is a holiday weekend. It's Speaker 3 01:15:52 A holiday week weekend. Speaker 0 01:15:52 It's a holiday weekend. Speaker 3 01:15:53 We like, Hey, let's get, let's get this Graham guy in here. Batten relief right now. Speaker 0 01:15:57 No, we saw that you were in town. I was like, this is my chance to get Graham on the po Oh, man's in town. So, well, Speaker 3 01:16:02 Any, anytime you're doing more for me than I'm doing for you. Trust me. You, you make me feel important on some level. So it's Speaker 0 01:16:07 Cool dude. No, dude. And we, and we would love to get out to California. No, but come on man. We'll do, here's on me. I want, I want to get a raise. I want, we wanna rent in perfect raise rowdy style like an old school, like Winnebago. Like mm-hmm. Not the nicest, but nice enough to sleep in kinda thing. Yeah. Just drive across the country and hit all those little touring markets that I've done as a tour manager on the road and then work our way out. Maybe, maybe that's our, maybe we do road the stage coach. There you go. 2024 there. Raise you. Go. Maybe that's our thing that we try to do, but Speaker 3 01:16:31 Well, hopefully I'll be hosting it again. That's what I'm saying. I got a good report card then my agent was like, Hey, they, they, they're gonna want you back. Yeah. Speaker 0 01:16:38 If you're hanging out with, with Scooter and fucking Luke and having a good time. That's, that's kinda what Speaker 3 01:16:43 They want. Yeah. Shout out Scooter. I love you buddy. And your son's got a nice jump shot. Hey, Speaker 0 01:16:48 We love that. Shout out to the jump shot. Well, y'all be sure to check out our boy Bum. What's the show called? It's Speaker 3 01:16:53 Just called Amp Country Radio. Speaker 0 01:16:55 Amp. Country Radio. Speaker 3 01:16:55 They wanted to call it Country Grammar, but I was like, I don't know man. I don't want to be like the guy that's like the, the old country grammar's here. You know, I was like, we'll call it Amp Country Radio. Hell Speaker 0 01:17:05 Yeah. Well check out Amp Country Radio. Um, on Amazon Music. Amazon music. Music, right? It's on Amp. Yeah, on Amp. Which is on Amazon Music, which is on Amazon. A p It's all owned by Jeff Bezo. Chef Bezo. So says owns at all. But, uh, check out a boy Graham, follow him on all the socials and, um, check out his show. Appreciate you guys for watching and listening. As always, be sure to like, rate, subscribe, tell your mama and them, and of course, shout out to our friends, big friendly productions, uh, Saxon Studios, whale Tale Media, and our boy Mitch Wallace with the digital marketing Agency, front boy Graham and our man's sweet boy behind the camera. I'm, and this has been outside the, Speaker 4 01:17:58 I never been to Constan. What place for too long. I ain't never been. I love you too, girl. Two trick, maybe the, and the lack of money for show.