Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Come on.
This is Outside the Round with Matt Burrill for Rage Rowdy podcast.
What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Outside the Round with me, Matt Brill. Today, a very special guest. He just released his debut album, Disappearing Days. He's from the great state of Texas. He knows his way around a hockey rink, and I'm excited to have him here. It's my boy, Brandon. Walter, buddy. It's been a long time. How's life?
[00:00:41] Speaker A: Things are good, man. You know, just same old. Just writing a whole bunch and posting videos and trying to get out there as much as I can.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: So I wouldn't even say it's same old, because now you've got this debut album out that's right in town for a while. I remember when you first got out here. It's been, what now, a couple years?
[00:00:57] Speaker A: It's been like a year, year and a half now. Yeah.
[00:00:59] Speaker B: Full time out here?
[00:01:01] Speaker A: Full time, yeah. I moved here, like, last June. So, yeah, I've been here for quite a bit now, and I'm. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. Really?
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Amazon, how's it feel to have a project out in the world, a debut album with the team that you have, like, Disappearing Days?
[00:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: From top to bottom, it's so authentic to you and your story. And you're writing from when we first met.
[00:01:20] Speaker A: Sure, absolutely.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: No, I mean, it's really a cool feeling. I mean, you know, when we first started, kind of when I decided I want to do this music thing, like, what, two and a half years ago now, when I graduated, I, you know, we were just kind of doing the single game and trying to release what we could, and everything was, like, kind of random. It was just, like, what we could afford to put out, really. And so our first, like, kind of project is not really projects. It's just collection of what we had. And it was called I don't know what I'm Doing yet, because that's exactly, you know, what it was. But, you know, I.
I told Grady, my manager, Grady Smith, that, you know, I wanted to move out to Nashville, and he was game for it because he was out here already, and he's just like, all right, we're going to write now. Like, welcome to Nashville. And, you know, we wrote. I wrote every day for, like, three or four months when I first got here, and it was the first time I was like, wow, like, I have a collection of songs now, you know, like, to kind of pick from. So, you know, it was. It was a huge gamble, and it Was. I'm just so honored that Grady, you know, believed as much as. As he did in. Were doing and, you know, was. Was just so supportive through the whole process. And, you know, it was the first time we got in a studio with 12 songs in a week and a half, and, like, you're like, all right, we got to pump all these out and, you know, for. For the resources we had and the money that we had at the time. Like, I'm just so proud that we were able to, you know, put it together and, you know, this year, you know, found out that some people cared about it. So, you know, it's. It's pretty awesome. I'm really proud of, you know, just the. The people that I've been able to work with and, you know, get myself to sitting right here, so.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, absolutely, man. Well, we're happy to have you on here, so take us back. You're from Texas, but you bounced around a little bit, playing hockey, for sure.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, no, I played hockey for, like, almost 20 years, something like that. So it was a long time. And I, you know, I lived a whole life before this, but, yeah, so I grew up in Dallas, and, you know, you play youth hockey as long as you can in Texas, and then you kind of got to move away, and, you know, you kind of top out at a certain point. And so I moved to Cleveland when I was 18, and then when I was in. When I was 19, turning 20, I moved to Philly, and then I was 20, turning 21, I lived in Odessa, back in Texas, out in, like, way west Texas, which is playing hockey.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Playing hockey in Odessa.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Texas.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: High school football capital. Friday Night Lights country.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: We got to see a game, too. We got to be, like, on the field for. It was Mojo versus Odessa High School. So it was, like, a big, you know, robbery. It was pretty sick. But, yeah, so I did that and then got recruited to go play in college up in Chicago. So I lived there for four years, and then I moved to Austin right out. I would just miss Texas so much, living in Chicago, you know, especially during. During the time I was there. I mean, it was like Covid and just, like, a bunch of stuff, like, going on in Chicago, and I was like, all right, I gotta get south, you know, Like, I gotta get out of here. But so I went to Austin, had a great year, and that was kind of. That was my first year, kind of, you know, diving into this whole music thing. And then I'm, you know, been in Nashville now for a year, and A half. And it's been. It's been awesome.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: What have been some of the biggest differences that you've seen coming from a music city in Austin? They always say, keep Austin weird. It's got a. It's got a lot of character, but different character than what?
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Different here in Nashville.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: So what. What was. What were some of the adjustments of going from one music city to the music, you know?
[00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think, like, I made a lot of friends in Austin and, you know, a lot of new friends for me because, you know, when got there, I had my roommate that I was with and he, you know, works at Oracle, Shout Out Pat. But, you know, he wasn't doing music, and I was just kind of like playing on the street and doing open mics and trying to meet as many people as I can. And then, you know, eventually got to play at this one place called Saxon Pub, which was like, you know, a place that I like to call home now in Austin. And so, you know, it was. It's different for sure. Like, I'd say the. Just the scene is different. I think the live music scene out there is so important as it is here, but it's just different. You know, it's like it's kind of a tighter knit group of people, and you really have to, like, know somebody to know somebody to kind of get into that Texas scene. You have to earn it, really. And in Nashville, I mean, there's just so many people doing the same thing, which is. Which is, you know, you know, a great thing and a bad thing. I mean, you know, it's a lot. How you look at it, it's a.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Lot of bars, too, to where there's so many in multiple stages, in every bar. Every bar. Was it a lot of covers or does Austin kind of embrace the. The. When you're playing out, doing the original thing?
[00:05:46] Speaker A: You know, I mean, yeah, Austin still has, you know, bars that are playing, you know, cover sets, like three hour sets like they do here.
But, you know, I was just focused on kind of doing my own stuff. And, you know, when I was, like, doing street stuff, I would mix my stuff in with covers and like, you know, private shows were covers and whatever. But, you know, I really tried to, from the jump, focus on what I was writing and try and get that better and see if I can connect with people and, you know, if not, then move on and make another better song and.
But, you know, here it's been. It's been awesome. I mean, I feel like Nashville's kind of been like, A.
Like a home base for me. So, you know, I played, like, maybe four or five shows here in Nashville since I've been here. Like, for myself, I'd say, like, I've done, like, you know, we did that round, done some rounds here, which has been a new thing. It's not a huge thing in Austin. Rounds are. But, you know, it's been. It's been really awesome. I think the biggest thing that I've really enjoyed moving to Nashville is the writing scene out here. You know, when I. I lived in Austin for a year, and I wrote, like, 20, 25 songs in that first year, and I was like, that's. There we go. That's a lot. You know, and then I moved here and wrote, like, 40 songs in three months, and I was like, oh, that's, you know, that's how it works out here. But, you know, I think that's been such a. Such an amazing thing for me because, you know, especially as a new artist, like, just developing the practice of songwriting has been such an amazing, you know, part of my, like, you know, improvement. I'd say, you know, it's. It's really cool to, you know, now go into these rooms and not be nervous and, like, not, like, you know, wonder if it's going to be a good song. And, like, you know, I think the important part is, like, finishing every song you go through. And, you know, now that, like, you know, I feel a little bit more seasoned than I was when I first got here. Like, I can go in confidently and have a start and be like, let's do this. I want to go this direction.
You know, let's try and make it sound like, you know, X, Y, and Z.
And before, it was just kind of like, hey, I kind of have a title here, and I hope we can make something cool.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: But, yeah, man, it's like a muscle, and I equate it.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: I didn't play hockey, but growing up in New York, like, went to a lot of games at the Garden. Watching the Rangers.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: Watching the breads and stuff here. People don't realize how hard it is to. To ice skate and have you guys practice skating at. At such a young age, and you practice skating all the time. Guys in the NHL still are. Are doing, like, that's, like, the core of it. I feel like songwriting and playing guitar is part of that, where it's something that the fan might take for granted. Like, of course they know how to write songs. Of course they know, but it's something that you keep working on. And practicing all the way through your career.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: That's absolutely right.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: So that's how, like, looking at it, like, just transitioning from, like, hockey to, From. From being an athlete to being. And being an artist and being a musician and being a songwriter.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: You're getting more reps out here, so of course you're gonna grow.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I, I. It is. It is fun when you tell, like, you know, your friends that just aren't in this scene, which is most of them, you know.
You know, you tell them like, oh, I'm gonna go do music. And it's, like, sounds pretty insane to most people, and, you know, it kind of is if you think about it that way. But, like, I really look at music or anything you're trying to pursue. I mean, you know, I learned a lot coming from hockey and, you know, failing, succeeding, you know, hardships, you know, like, there's so many things that translate from, you know, just practicing every day at something into this music thing, which is like, you know, if you decide to do music, you might as well just go as hard as you absolutely can, like, in practice and write every day, you know, sing every day, play guitar, pick up the guitar for a couple hours every day. I mean, you know, there's no point in just, like, kind of trying it, you know, it's like, you know, you're doing the impossible, a lot of people say, but, you know, it really does become possible when you put the hours in and you. You can start to realize some of that, you know, improvement, which. Which has been such a. Such a cool thing and feeling like just you have the babiest amount of control in what you're doing, especially in something that's so, like, you know, so variable, like music. So, no, it's been great. And, you know, I think I've luckily been able to take a lot of, you know, lessons learned in hockey and translate them here. I mean, like, the crossovers, pretty hilarious.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: So many guys that came up as athletes.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Brett Young was a professional baseball player that had to have a shoulder that couldn't be fixed by Tommy John. And then he started picking up a guitar.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: You know, there's so many guys that have that story of. Of coming from that sports world, and I think it makes touring a little bit easier because. Yeah, show day's game day, bro.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Yeah, absolutely. It's this. I mean, it's the same thing, like, really, like, you, you think about, like, like when you're playing Junior, right, Is like, it's I guess the best way I could describe it to someone who doesn't know what junior hockey is, it's like kind of like juco baseball or, like, semi pro hockey. But you're not, like, getting paid. It's just like, everything's paid for. You're on the road every weekend. You're sharing hotel rooms with the boys. I mean, it's like, you know, the. The worst teams that you're on. Like, you have, you know, kind of a. You know. Crap. Can you say crappy?
[00:10:53] Speaker B: Yeah, you say whatever you want.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: You have, like, a little shittier bus, and you move up to like a. You know, by my last year, we had a sleeper bus. We had actually Reba's old tour bus, which is kind of funny in Odessa. And, you know, the rooms get a little nicer and the venues, you know, the rinks get a little nicer. And it really is the same. I mean, being on the road in hockey is like, almost the exact same thing as being on the road music. And, you know, luckily I had, you know, quite a few years. Years under my belt before I, you know, I went on. I went on tour. This. I love this story. Went on with Cash is Culpepper's first. First tour. And we got a text from.
From cool Calfie, the TM at the time, and he was just like, all right, van's here. And he sent a picture of his minivan, and I was like, let's go, dude. We all packed in there and just got after it. And, you know, it was like. It was like weekend trips, so we'd come home. Back to Nashville.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: Weekend warrior.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was. It was so awesome. And then, you know, then you get in the sprinter vans. I haven't been in a bus yet. I've. I've walked around in one before.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: It'll get there.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: You know, we're getting there. We're working on it, but, you know, that's definitely the next. The next thing to achieve for sure.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And you talk about being on the road with a guy like Cash, you've gotten to be out with Wyatt Flores, Evan hold, or Liam St. John.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: There's a cool crew of guys and girls that are, like, in your world, sonically, and, like, in that world of, like, Grady's homies, too, where, like, you look at what. What, like, Julia DeGrasse is doing or what the low gap boys are. Max Allen. Like, it seems like right now for you to be putting out the record that you've. That you've put out, it's right now, Nashville's embracing this style and this sound. And there's so many of you guys and girls coming here at the exact same time, right?
[00:12:35] Speaker A: Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, it's been. It's been such a wonderful, like, group of people to be surrounded by like every day. I mean, Max was literally at my house last night. I'm. I live, well, lived with Evan. He just got a new house. So, you know, he's at the house right now. He's writing with the guy. And.
But yeah, I mean, it's been. It's been so great to just, you know, be in the same world, be in a new city with a bunch of people that it's all, you know, they're in the same shoes as I am. Everyone's trying to write, everyone's trying to grow and, you know, the grind, it doesn't stop. Like, you know, everyone says, but like, really, I mean, it's. It's great to like, be able to call somebody one day and just be like, dude, like today, like, what's going on? They're like, yeah, dude, it's like it's the same, you know, it's. It's the same for everybody. And. And there's such wonderful music coming out of like, kind of this, you know, independent mindset that, you know, a lot of guys are coming to town with, which is so cool. And, you know, when I first started doing this whole music thing, before we had a record deal or anything like that, like, Evan really took me under his wing and, you know, helped me, help me out by getting me on Cloverdale and put my music out there.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: She's a family man, dude.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: Clover. The Clover Cult.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the Clover Cult.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: The Clover Cult, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's the group chat's name. But yeah, it's been great. I mean, you know, like, they've been so helpful and just, you know, the development of. Of this, this music career. I mean, there's so many pieces that go into it and so many things to be, you know, wary of and, you know, they've been. Evan is like the, you know, the king of independent music right now.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: Godfather.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah, he really.
Yeah. And he's, you know, he works so hard and he crushes it like every time and, you know, he's so creative and he's just got to cool ass sound man and, you know, so very lucky to call him a friend. And. Yeah, I mean, you know, you mentioned Wyatt and Cash. Like, those guys are just like, just crushing it. I mean, they're just doing so good, and I'm so. It's so cool to, like, you know, start with some of these guys and just see how far they can get and how far they're getting. You know, like, they're just continuing to crush it. And, you know, it's been such an honor to just be part of that. Part of that crew, you know, the new crew in Nashville, I suppose.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Because you see different classes come in. Like, I've been in town for seven years now, so, like, I moved here around the same time as. As like the Dylan Marlows and the Ella Langley's and like the Trey Lewis's and like, the class before me was like, the Muscadine Bloodline guys, Luke Combs. And I know you've gotten the right with Gary and collaborate with him. He's another for using the crime families, the familiar. Yeah, yeah, that's another one of the dons of, like, the families of independent.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: Yes, sir.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: It's kind of. It's definitely country, but some would call it Americana. Songwriter G. Stanton's on there too. What's it been like having him as, like, a collaborator and like a brother type figure?
[00:15:22] Speaker A: It's. It's actually such an honor. I mean, it, like, music is such a funny, full circle thing, you know, I. And. And it's random. It's not, like, ever intentional, I feel like. But, you know, Evan and I, like, the first time, like, we hung out in Austin, it was like maybe our second time hanging out. We, like, posted a Muscadine bloodline song, me on you. And it did pretty well or whatever on Instagram, but, like, but it's just so cool to be like, you know, Grady's just like, oh, hey, you want to go write with, you know, Gary from Muscatine Bloodline?
[00:15:53] Speaker B: I'm like, over at the Amber Sound, baby.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: That sounds pretty cool. I'd love to.
So, you know, it was a great day. I.
It was like I was so nervous. Like, I didn't really, like, have much of an idea going in. I knew that we had, like, almost this album done and we were trying to accomplish, like, a certain sound. And, you know, he really kind of stepped into the plate being like the professional that he is and was like, well, what if we did something like this? And he did it on guitar? And I was like, yeah, that's. That works for sure. And he started, like, jotting some notes down. I'm like, yeah, let's go with that. Like, you know, I felt like I was kind of just like, just watching him work. And, you know, just to be able to, like, have, you know, even just a little bit of insight on writing with him was. Was pretty amazing. And just seeing how those guys work is pretty awesome. I mean, you know, they're. They're crushing it, obviously.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I. I had the pleasure of being their merch seller right before.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Yes, that's right.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: I was with them for about right around a year.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: In the sprinter days, you know, like, way back. Way back in the day. And it's like they just. They do it. They do it all themselves, which is what's crazy. And they're so meticulous. And now it's like the way that they collaborate, where they just. They'll sit down and the way that their writing process works and then just going downstairs and recording something.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: So you talk about the process of you and Grady going in and doing this. Doing this record.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: And I love that you guys recorded the record as, like, one long thing as opposed to just piecing different things together.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: Talk about why you wanted to throw it back to doing it in that vein versus, like, single here, single here, single here, and 120 with different people.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I think the way that Grady puts it and the way that I, you know, agree with is like, you know, I feel like with kind of the social media stuff, like, you know, I feel like a lot of times the strategy of social media is like, let's throw everything at the wall, and if something sticks, that's awesome. And, you know, we'll just keep trying to recreate that. And, you know, I feel like that, for good or for bad, you know, has been a little bit of how, you know, releasing music has been, you know, over the last couple of years, just with social media having such a huge impact on the music industry.
And, you know, it wasn't like.
It wasn't not working for us, but it wasn't, like, doing anything crazy for us, you know, and, you know, we're still. We're still new to the game, so we're still learning. And, you know, when we were talking about, you know, making our first album when, you know, maybe we, like, weren't ready for it or whatever, you know, like, you just gotta. You gotta, like, take as many swings as you can. Cause, like, you know, I graduated at 25 and I'm 27 now, and it's just like, you know, times, you know, not I'm in a good spot, but, like, times, like. Feels a little ticking when you. When you graduate at an age like 25. And you're like, oh, like, I gotta pay bills and like, be an adult now.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Oh, you're adulting.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, 100. Yeah, absolutely.
But, yeah, you know, Grady. Grady says it like, we wanted to class ourselves as an album artist and, you know, make careers. Like, I mean, when you talk about any great band, I mean, you're talking about, you know, just the certain albums that they. That they put out. And, you know, a lot of the. The earlier stuff is what people always fall back on. So it's so nice in my head, it's so nice to like, be able to put out a big project and put out another one. Put out another one. Like, you know, you think about like, like Zach Ryan, the Red Clay Strays. You know, you can name 20 and it's like people are like, oh, they blew up overnight. And it's just like, that's not true. Like, it's their third or fourth album that people are discovering them. And then they have all of this other work that they put in previously that people can go find and listen to. And like, that's such a special thing. And, you know, so that was, you know, really our goal going into it. And, you know, the reason that we. We did it in a week and a half and did it, you know, right there is, you know, A, that was what we could afford to do, you know, and. And B, like, we did it. It was our first time doing live tracking. So, you know, it was our first time having session artists and like, you know, some of the best guys in Nashville came through and played on that and.
And, you know, one day we had Kurt Ozone coming in.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: Oh, dude.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: Just ripping. Yeah, it was so sick. I mean, it was an honor to have him there and. But, you know, I mean, these guys are crazy, man. You know, we had 11 songs to come in and, you know, make during this week and a half. And, you know, some. Some days we had a new group of people. Some days it was like, kind of the same. And, you know, you show them these songs and they write down their charts and it was the first time I've ever seen charts get made.
Dude, it's wild, man. They listen to. They're like, all right, here's the song we're doing today. They listen to it and they're like, alright, play one more time. And then they write down like a couple more notes and they're like, we got it. And then they just go in and do it and it's perfect every time. And. And then if it's Not. You just be like, hey, can you do this? And say. And they're like, yeah, yeah, whatever, that's fine. And then, you know, you get.
It's just so efficient and at the same time, it keeps that live. That live sound that, you know, we were really trying to accomplish with. With all this stuff. And it was just. I mean, it was such an incredible experience. I had so much fun, and I'm. I'm so excited to do it again for next year, so.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah, man. And it's like the.
And it's like when you record, since you're recording in that. Sit in that one segment time, if you want what you recorded, say on Tuesday, if you slept on it Tuesday night, went back on Wednesday, you could go in and. And just. Yeah, make that change.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Go fix it. Yeah.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: I mean, you're in album mode.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. I mean, and the, you know, the rhythm section is. You know, once they're locked in, then the song is, you know, halfway there anyway, so you just got to stack some stuff, redo vocals, and you're all set. And if you mess something up, you're. It's all to a click, so you're okay, you know. But no, it was. It was really awesome.
[00:21:29] Speaker B: Of the songs, of the 11 songs on the record, what are like a few that I'm sure. I know you're proud of all of them. They're all your children.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: What are like the few where you're. I can't wait to see how people react to this song.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, there's, I guess ones that, you know, we didn't do a single, I guess I'll name. Yeah. Because, you know, I love all the ones that we put out of singles that are definitely our front runners.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: There's a reason they put them out of singles.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: Exactly. Absolutely.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah. But there's this one song.
It's my favorite song, you know, selfishly, just because it's. It's an absolutely true story about my. But it's called Fighting Today. And it's just like a dumb, silly song. But, like, I love it because it's a true story. It's about how my roommate in Austin and I, we got in a bar fight, but the caveat is that we were on shrooms, so we.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: Which is a very common thing in Austin, Texas, I'll have you know. They keep Austin in weird.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: And that's right. And that's right. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, so what happened was we went out on a Saturday night, as gentlemen do, and then we Woke up kind of just like one of those where you wake up in the morning and it's just like, I'm awake, you know, all right. Like one of those, you know, still kind of feeling it. And then we're like, all right, let's go to the golf course. And then. So we just went. Played golf immediately. Like, woke up, just went straight away. It was a thousand million degrees outside in Texas, you know, around football season.
So, you know, we didn't drink any water. Kind of, you know, hair the dog and had a couple beers out there, didn't eat anything. Came back to the apartment, and we were, you know, just sitting there and still hadn't eaten. Threw some football on. We're like, let's take mushrooms. And then we did that. And then we're just kind of enjoying it for a little bit. And then we're like, you know what? Let's go to a bar. So still a million degrees out. So we're like, you know, still feeling pretty good. And we went to the bar, and this all happened within 30 minutes of being there. But, like, we walk in, I go right to the bar, get a bucket of beers for us. I turn around. It's me, my roommate, my brother, his girlfriend. And. Yeah. And I go to the bar, I turn around, I got my bucket of beers, and my brother's, like, waving me over, like. Like. Like super. I'm like, okay, all right. And I'm on mushrooms, Keep in mind. So I'm kind of freaking out, and.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: I'm, like, bringing beers back.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And there's, like 200 people there. Like, more than that. Probably just yelling. Everyone's watching football, screaming, dogs barking. And I'm just overstimulated. And I come back, my buddy's just on the ground. Like he had a heat stroke and passed out, like, within minutes of getting to this bar. So we're just like. I'm freaking out. And luckily, some nurses from, like, the crowd just came in, and we're helping them. And, you know, and then this guy come, like, from across over there, comes up and starts recording my friend on the ground. Like, this is serious. Like, he's like. Like this on the ground. Like. Like, I thought he was going to die. And then, you know, EMS came in, the whole bit. This guy's still recording back here, and my brother is. Is. Is, you know, behind me, and I was obviously focused on. On my buddy.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: And so this guy's recording my brother. You know, he thought that he was recording his girlfriend's butt at first, so he, like, smacked his face. Like, don't do that. Like, you can't. You know, whatever. And then the guy has this. He's like. He's like, oh. Like, he got himself that way. I'm allowed to record. This is a public bull, like, doing that thing. So he picks his phone back up. My brother, like, smacks his phone the second time. Like, it goes flying. And then he pushes my brother. So then I kind of figure out what's going on, and I turn around and, you know, he hits my brother, so I gotta hit him. And then, you know, we get after a little bit. And then all five bouncers came over and beat the living. Like, beat the. Out of this guy. I mean, really, like, really, like, gave him one. And, you know, they ripped his pants in half, like, threw him out. Like, it was a real, like, thing. Anyway, so we left. But that's the song. It's called Fighting Today. You go check it out. It's awesome. But I love that one. And then maybe the opposite of that is there's a song that I wrote called with Zach Williams from the Lone Bellow called no one's gonna do it for you. It's a fatherly advice song, so quite the opposite, but, you know, just great, you know, easy listening and, you know, it's the advice that my dad gave me when, you know, I called him. It was my last finance class of, like, junior. Junior year, spring, and I just had, you know, some computer science and GEDs left. And, you know, this guy came in, gave a presentation about, like, you know, he had the job I wanted, you know, at a big bank and, you know, doing super well. And I just got out of that class, and I was like, I just don't. I don't know. Like, not that I'd hated anything he said. I just was kind of bored, and I was just like, I don't know if I want this right now.
And I called my. Called my parents, and I was just like, I think I want to move to Austin and, like, not do this. And they're like, all right, well, you know, the real world is real, and you got to pay bills and you gotta, you know, pay, you know, get life insurance. Now I'm turning 26. You get off your parents. Life insurance, Life insurance, health insurance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm sorry, did I say, like, I'm in health insurance? But, you know, his advice was basically like, you know, do what you want to do. No one's going to do it for you. You know, you got to figure it out yourself. And you know, so we wrote a song about it and it was just. It was a cool thing to go right with Zach. I mean, you know, they have such amazing music, the Lone Bellow and, you know, it's been great to just like, kind of be in their vicinity. And you know, I showed up and all those kids are just running around and I was like, let's write like a nice little advice song, you know.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: Because while his kids.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: Yeah, right. While his kids are there. And I'm just like, you know, let's. Let's do this. And he was, he was really in for it.
And then I'd say like, my last. My last favorite one is a song called Pathetic. It's just a nice love song about, you know, a girl I was. I was dating. And it was just kind of the first time I like, was really, really in love. And it was, it was really nice because it was just the first time I'd been in a relationship and, you know, I could see a future. You know, I could see like, oh, maybe I could, you know, marry this girl. And that was just such a. An amazing feeling that, you know, I tried to convey in this song and it's called Pathetic because, you know, I just felt like I would. Could do anything for this girl.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: And you know, that. That being in love kind of feels pathetic.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Oh, it does. Sure, man.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: And that. And that's the last song on the project. Is that done for a certain reason because you started out with Pipe Dream.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah, sure, sure. Cool.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: Dude, I love that. That's like the first track, like for people who hadn't heard your stuff before, if they're clicking on the record, me like, oh, what's this branding for that to be like the first one? Do you have that as the opening and closing of the book for a reason?
[00:28:12] Speaker A: I'd say so, yeah. So Pipe Dream is, is. Is, you know, one of my favorite songs to play live. Like, just hands down, it's. It's so. It's. It's a song that I wrote before any of this. Like, this was like a song I wrote in college. And to think that it's on our first project is. And especially the first song on our first project is. Is really just a cool thing for me because, you know, the co writing scene is so cool and to be able to like collaborate with all these different artists is awesome. But to have something that's yours is really nice.
So anyway, yeah, that, that song is. It's just about, you know, deciding to kind of you know, take this. This music journey and, you know, take it seriously. And it feels like, you know, it feels like the odds are against you for a lot of it, for all of it, you know, and, you know, to. To stay above water. I was bartending and, you know, that's, you know, a huge part of the song. And, you know, just to. Just to say, like, hey, I'm going for this, and, like, nothing's going to stop me. Like, it's, you know, I feel like that's a powerful thing for anybody to hear. And especially when you're doing something is as risky as.
[00:29:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: You know, doing music, you're betting on yourself 100%.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: You're betting on yourself. And. And you're very. You're a very bright guy. Like, you. You're very well spoken, and I could tell, like, you're very strategic and cerebral. Grady is as well. Knowing Grady as well as I do, of course. So disappearing days.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:29:38] Speaker B: What made you want to go with that as the title track? Because I love that as the title of the project. Like, it is a cool.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah, cool.
[00:29:45] Speaker B: Literative. Yeah, for sure thing.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: I. We actually had that title before we went in to go write that song with. With. With Gary and, you know, we kind of pitched the. The idea to him when we were singing or writing that song, and we're just like, this is the project. We don't really know, like, what song we're gonna write today. Goes. Let's just write that. Let's make.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Let's just write the good way as a song. If someone comes to you and says, hey, the name of the project's gonna be this. We don't have the song yet. Yeah, try and write the.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: Try and write the title track. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Gary. Stan.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. So. So, you know, it's. It's a song about, you know, just literally my life experience so far. I mean, you know, like I said, I started college at 21, graduated 25, and, you know, when you're getting into the world at the age of 25, you know, especially jumping into music, you know, you feel pretty behind the eight ball. Especially when, you know, when anybody starts music, there's nothing going on for you. You got to figure it out. And, you know, the process of figuring out is, you know, a process I'm still living in but. And probably will be for a long time. But, you know, it's.
It just feels like being behind the eight ball is really a. It's a motivating factor for anybody, really. I mean, especially when you're devoting your life to something like music. Like, it's. It's just something you have to put time into every single day. And no matter. No matter if you feel behind, no matter if you feel like it's not working, like, as long as you keep pushing and getting better, like, it's gonna. It's gonna work out. And, you know, that's. That's just the tune we made, you know, it's a. It's. It's a song about me moving out and getting into the world and, you know, I might not make it, but I'm gonna. I'm sure gonna try, you know, so.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah. That's awesome, man. What do you like doing when you're not doing the music stuff? Because you're. You're on the grind, and you. You have been since you got here.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: But when we're.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: When we're unwinding, when we're not out doing shows with the boys, or we're not writing or we're not talking about music, which to me is one of the hardest things is you hang out with your buddies in town and everybody's in music. I struggle with it too.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: That's right. Yeah.
[00:31:55] Speaker B: You find you're always. Music is always the conversation stuff. But what are. What do we like to do when we unwind? Like. Yeah, we're not on the clock.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: I. You know, I don't have a illustrious life. I. I go to the gym. I play golf.
That's.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: I'd say that's my biggest, favorite courses around here because we have a lot of. Yeah, people sleep on Middle Tennessee.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: You know what?
[00:32:17] Speaker B: We have a lot of courses that. Some very nice ones.
You can pay to be a member.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: That's exactly right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I say, like, my favorite munies right now, Oak Hills, which is up in Greenboro.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Good spot.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Great track.
Love that track McCabe I played recently. That was really cool. Fun.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: Pretty quick. And it's nice that it's in town.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's nice. Exactly.
We've been walking on. Well, I guess the sun's going down now, but we've been walking on at Shelby at 501 because they close at 5 and you can just jump out. Everyone in Nashville shows up at 501. But, you know, it's. That one's been great.
I played Natchez Los. Natchez.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: Natchez Trace.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I played that. It was like my first country club or whatever.
[00:33:05] Speaker B: Pretty cool.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: I had fun.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: Get a couple number ones, bro.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. 100%. But yeah, I got to check out hermitage. That's. That's the one I want.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: Hermitage is cool. The hick. The hick is pretty cool.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
[00:33:17] Speaker B: I, I, I ball on the budget of playing the munies as well. I love playing Riverside.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: Riverside's lit, dude. I live right next to it.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Really? So you're like, right out here. That's awesome. Have you done pebblebrook yet?
[00:33:30] Speaker A: Pebble brook? Oh, yeah, I have. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:33:32] Speaker B: There's never anybody on the course.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: You feel like you're gonna die in the golf cart. There's cliffs. There's the tunnel. You're.
[00:33:38] Speaker A: Yes. It's 100. I. Oh, my God.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: That's not bad. Like 35. 40 golf. I'll take 35.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Well, I'll tell you something about pebblebrook. So.
Yeah, so Max Allen and I actually went out to Pebblebrook one time with his manager, Chris.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: And there are hills, and there's lots of steep hills.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Golf carts, as we learned. As I learned, do not have the self stopping. So, you know, we were humming down some of those hills, and we get to this place, and, I mean, it was like, I don't know, it was like 75 or not 70. It was like 60 something bucks for this course.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: And I was like, almost 60. Yeah. The week were you.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: I don't know. It was a weekend. It was probably Saturday.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: I was gonna say I've got on there for like, 30.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: No.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: Right. I feel great.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: That's what I was expecting. But we walk up to this place, and there's like all these signs around, and it's like, like, be careful on the carts can kill. And we decide a liability when we get in there. And I was like, what is going on? I've never seen this before in my life. And then, you know, we get on the course. I. I can't even say I was drunk. I had like four beers, I think in an 18 hole, it was like nothing. And so, you know, we're. I was humming down some of these hills, and on eight, we're going to 18. There's this giant, giant hill going down.
And, you know, I was just kind of let it go. There was no governor, so we're just letting it go down. And I like, barely touched the brakes, and we freaking flipped the car.
I felt like, because the whole time we were just like this, like, you know, frick this course. Like, you know, we're. We're not like.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: More sand on the green.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It was like, not that good. And like, Whatever. But then, you know, we learned. I learned my lesson really hard. And, you know, Max was sitting right next to me and I just felt so terrible. I was like, I could have killed this kid. Like, really, like, really, like we were going pretty damn fast and like, you know, it just went.
And we. We hit a tree and flipped and we got it back up and it was smoking. And then.
So if you're, you know, trying to calculate your.
Your prices for your next Pebblebrook visit, if you flip a card, it's only like 700, so just check it out, man. Be careful out there, bro.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: We'll have to get out on the link sometime.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, maybe not Pebble Brook.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: No, we go to Riverside.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll go to Riverside. Side. We'll go to.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: Especially right now. Those off season prices are good.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Yeah, Riverside's great. It's. It's a nice little track and, and it's relatively easy. It's very open.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: You don't lose your balls.
[00:36:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's great. I shot a 79 last. Last summer. There's the first time I broke 80. It was Riverside, so, like, whatever, but still I shot a 70.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: Have you done. Have you done, like, golf outings and golf tournaments yet?
[00:36:16] Speaker A: No, not yet.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: There's a bunch of them after. I'm sure you end up playing on.
[00:36:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Hopefully soon. I. I think I got invited to one and I. I just couldn't make it. I was pretty. Pretty choked about that. But.
Yeah, no, I love golf, man. And I've been. Actually, I've been playing men's league hockey as well.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: Oh, there's a.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: There's a C league and a B league. I'm trying to find a. I think I.
[00:36:39] Speaker B: Is that the one, The Big Louds in the Big Loud Beauties?
[00:36:41] Speaker A: Yeah, they're in B, I think upper B at Centennial. Yeah. But I've heard about them and Joey.
[00:36:49] Speaker B: Joey Moyes out there, I think, playing goalie or something.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Is he.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Yeah, Joey. Joey's like the captain of the.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: Damn. I didn't know that. Yeah, no, I've heard about this team, man.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: I.
[00:36:58] Speaker A: Before. Before we had, you know, signed our record deal, I was just like, man, I'm gonna go play against these big lot guys and just bully them into a contract, you know? But no, it was.
It's been great. I mean, it's just nice to like, you know, put the gear on again.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: How often. How often do you do. How often is the men's league stuff?
[00:37:14] Speaker A: It's like, I mean, it's once. There's like three seasons a year. So it's like once a week and I'll play like maybe once or twice a month. Just like to jump around and have fun. But, you know, it's cool. Like, there's a lot of guys that are, you know, kind of like learning to play and like, whatever. So it's just like fun to like, not really care and just get out there and, you know, everyone's really nice and, you know, it's been. It's been a nice little experience. Just.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: Is it like contact beer league hockey like you see in Canada? Like beer league hockey in Canada? That's where you get some of the best.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: If you want to watch hockey fights, watch. Watch a. Watch a beer league hockey game. Ontario.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: I don't. Yeah, I don't fight anymore, but I.
Yeah, sometimes the old guys get a little upset because, like, you know, I'm young gun coming in there, you know, fresh out of college. You know, some of these guys are like, kind of just starting like in the last five years. So, you know, it's fun.
You know, I think it's great and. But yeah, sometimes guys will get a little upset.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Do you get out to a lot of Preds games? Have been.
[00:38:12] Speaker A: You been? I've been to one Preds game.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: What, what you think as a hockey guy?
[00:38:15] Speaker A: I think they were. I think it was sick. I think they put on a nice presentation. I love that they have the live band going and that's pretty sick.
[00:38:21] Speaker B: Very Nashville.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Very natural. Yeah, exactly. They lost. But, you know, like, whatever. It was sick. It was so fun.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: It's a cool arena and the fans get into it.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Fans get into it and it's like. I think it's like the. It's the best location. It's the best rink location I've seen. Like, so, like, in person at least. I mean, you can pregame and post game right outside the doors of Bridgestone. I mean, it's like, it's perfect for. For NHL team. I mean, it's. It's really awesome. So.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Have you been here when they've been in the playoffs? No playoff. Preds bro is wild.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:51] Speaker B: Because they put the. They put like a beater SUV or like a Jeep or something outside of the arena. And before you go in, they have the hammer. They have like the big like. Oh, sledgehammer.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: And all the fans can take turns because they got smash Nashville of hitting the.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Oh, like the ding. Yeah.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: Not even hitting the ding. No. Like you. You Hit the car. Oh, like, you're like. Like you're. The fans are smashing a car before going into the rink.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Like, taking turns swinging a sledgehammer.
[00:39:18] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know that started a.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: Few years ago when they were in the. I'm not. That's, what, like, seven years ago now when they were in the cup against the Penguins, they started doing that. Yeah, mostly during, like, postseason time, where if they're hosting a postseason, they're hosting a playoff game.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: Jump in on that. Yeah, that sounds fun.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: The energy. I always joke with people because all my friends in New York, like, man, Titans are bad. I'm like, dude, people don't really care as much. Like, it's cool. Like, I've seen the Titans in the playoffs down here, too, but Nashville's a hockey town when it comes to pro sports.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: People get up for the predators.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: Yeah. 100, I'd say. And, like, the cool thing is, too, is, like, I mean, especially as someone who, you know, did this for a long time, and, like, I'd. You know, playing in Dallas is, like, kind of weird for people to hear, for sure. But, you know, the Stars did such a great job with their youth programs, like, putting money into, like, Madonna, bro. Yeah, man. Yeah, absolutely.
And he. You know, they. They just did. Like, there's more rinks in Dallas than there are in, like, most of the cities. Like, in the Dallas Metroplex, like, there's. There's 15 rinks, like, within 30 minutes of each other. And so that was such an awesome thing. And, you know, all to say that Nashville is, you know, in a similar way, like, there's some. There's some great hockey out here. There's a. Like, it's like a prep school, I think it's called tph.
[00:40:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: That, you know, a lot of, you know, good hockey players come out of. And, you know, the. Even the Junior Preds are, you know, pretty. Pretty darn good if, you know, I don't know how they are now, but, you know, when I was growing up.
[00:40:41] Speaker B: They were pretty legit.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, it's. It's. It's cool to see, you know, even the big, loud thing, like, it's. It's cool to see that there is such a hockey, like, you know, Persona out here in the Southeast. Yeah, exactly. It's. It's so awesome. I'm. I'm really enjoying, you know, that aspect of it.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: So we, like. So we like golfing. We, like, what. What other.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: What other things when we're not see pool. I'm. I've. I've been playing a lot of pool. We have a. We've got a pool table in our. In our studio right now. So my roommate Tyson and I, like, man, I've. I've. I think I've played, like, close to a thousand games since I've been in Nashville.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: I mean, have you gone out to the bars and.
[00:41:24] Speaker A: Oh, people now.
[00:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: I mean, we're Tyson. I were at Lakeside this weekend on Saturday. I think we played, like, 12 games in a row. Like, just. We. That's our favorite. It's our favorite thing to do is go to the. Go to the bar and play. Play pool, because we know that we'll be there for a little bit. So anybody. Anybody who wants to play us, you're on. Yeah.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: You spend a lot of time in the East?
[00:41:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I don't really go out that much. I mean, with. You know, this weekend is an exception, but, you know, I.
I don't know, man. I. I drank a lot in college and had fun.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: Like, my thing is, like, I've been. Like, I've been sober for coming up on 10 years.
[00:42:00] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: Still out at the bar?
[00:42:01] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: All the time. Some nights when we're doing our business thing. Yeah, I'm hosting the events.
[00:42:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: But other nights, I just, like. You have random nights. We just go out. I went to the Skinny Dentist for the first time last week. Dude, it was cool. And it's funny, we walked in, first person I see, freaking Max Allen.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it was. Joe Jonas was there the other night, too. Yeah, I saw that.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: Like, Joe Jonas is there. Sierra Fell's just hopping up with the house band. I'm like, this place has got it going on.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Like, east was not the place to be when I first got here.
[00:42:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. I was. Max texted me that night, and I was just like, dude, I can't get off my couch right now. Like, I can't go out. But, yeah, no, he. Him and this guy named Keller Cox, if you're familiar.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: Oh, I love Kelly.
[00:42:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. She's like the nicest guy in the world.
[00:42:41] Speaker B: Literally. Yeah.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And. But anyway, they. They asked us to go out that night, and I was just like, dude, I can't. But yes, there's some great spots in East.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Underdog's. Cool.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: Underdog's. Great.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: Ernie's.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Ernie's is great. I haven't been to. Wait, no. Ernie's. I have been to Ernie's.
[00:42:55] Speaker B: Yeah, Underneath, right next Time. They got a good little strip of bars right there.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: Yeah, they do. Yeah, absolutely. We went to. And then low bars over there. My. My buddy Tyson, actually, he did break stuff on Biscuit at the little karaoke room.
[00:43:11] Speaker B: We'll have to let you know when our next butt Rock night is. Oh, yeah, because we do that full band. Oh, shut up. We do a tribute to. The last one we did was actually in collaboration with Nickelback Live in Nashville album came out.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:23] Speaker B: So we put together a house band, and we get country artists to sing.
[00:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah, man, sing.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Creed, Nickelback, Corn Limp, Bizkit, all those songs. So we'll let you know when the next one of those is. Even if you don't perform, it's just like the most. It's one of the most degenerate nights that we have, for sure. Everybody just drinks beers and rocks out the 2000s. Hard rock.
[00:43:40] Speaker A: As you should. Yeah. I mean, sounds like a great night.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: It is, man. It's. I think Grady's been the one.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: As he should.
[00:43:45] Speaker B: Yeah. 100. The chaos, man. So what are the goals now? Is, I'm sure, a goal for you coming in. What were the goals coming into this year?
[00:43:53] Speaker A: Coming into this year? I mean, man, so much. I feel like a lot has changed just on the kind of, like, you know, behind the scenes. It's been a big year.
You know, we. We signed our first record deal this year with Records and Sony, which.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: Congrats on that. That's a huge.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: Thank you very much. Yeah. Very, very honored to be part of that.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: And congrats on finding one that you really vibe with. And, like, because you get a lot of pieces of paper put in front of you, but if you don't feel a certain way about the person putting the paper down in front of you.
[00:44:21] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:44:22] Speaker B: Then it's not worth a damn. But if you feel like you got the team and you got the right people around you, man, I can tell you they're. They're big champions.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Oh, well, yeah. No, I mean, it's. It's. It's really been an honor. I mean. Yeah. And you're 100% right. I mean, when we. When. When I first got the town, you know, I had, you know, not. Not so many, but, you know, enough where it was just like, you know, you go to a big record label and you'd go sit in the nice office and everyone shake your hand and talk to you for an hour, and then you get to the end and you're like, so, what's up? And they're just like, well, you know, just like blow up and we'll talk to you soon. And I'm just like, what? Like, what the hell?
[00:44:59] Speaker B: I could have written a song.
[00:45:01] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Exactly that hour. But no, no, no, I mean, it really. It really comes down to that. It's the people at the end of the day and, you know, that we. When we walked into to Sony and met with the records people, we were just like, okay, like these. These people get it and, you know, they understand what we're trying to do because, you know, on paper, really, like, all these labels are kind of the same. I mean, it's just. It's just who you can resonate with and who understands, like, the future vision of what you're trying to do.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: And you came in with a project for sure, so you had to say, what are they?
[00:45:34] Speaker A: And that.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: What's the reaction? What's the room doing when you're playing them? Disappearing days.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: You know.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. And, you know, to the goals on the year. I mean, it's just like, that wasn't like, it wasn't even really in the cards. Like, nobody. Nobody cared what we were doing. Like, even last year when we were making this record, I mean, that's why it was such a big gamble, is because, like, we were just trying to see, you know, who would pick their head up. You know, once we said, hey, we have a whole album done that nobody has to pay for, you know, we did it.
But, you know, that was really helpful. That was a nice bargaining chip going into everything. But, you know, at the same time, I think our goals for the year were just, let's put out a great record. Let's, you know, try and grow as much as we can and try and reach as many people as we can. And, you know, a big thing this year that. That has changed is that I'm playing with a band now, which is.
[00:46:25] Speaker B: Yeah, bro.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: Like, that has been such an incredible, you know, you know, part of the. The experience.
You know, it feels like, you know, you're on a team again. You know, you got. You got boys that, you know, depend on you and you depend on them to, you know, put up, put on a great performance and, you know, you practice with them, get close to them, and, you know, I think I've put together, you know, it's. I'm biased, but like a pretty. Pretty amazing group of guys that, you know, I'm lucky to share the stage with.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: How many. How many pieces we got in the band?
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Oh, it's just a simple four piece. So it's just me, you know, it's what I can afford right now.
Yeah, exactly. So, you know, we got.
Got my buddy Cam Rogers on bass slapping it around. And then one of my best buddies from. From Austin, Sean Greenberg, He's. He's like a real cat, man. Like, he's. He's sick. He's like our Shredder guitarist. And then my drummer, Dylan Perry, he's a.
He's a hardcore drummer. So he. He's in a band called Dogpile. Shout Out Dogpile.
They're like. It's like Screamo hardcore.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: Like, it's so he can play fast. So him playing your stuff.
[00:47:35] Speaker A: Yes. Dude, I. I've. At first I felt so bad. I was like, bro, you can open up as much as you need, bro. Like, I want it.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: I don't want to board you.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Yeah, right, exactly. Like I would. I feel like in our first couple rehearsals, I'll look over at him. He's just doing Train Beat him. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, I'm sorry, dude.
But no, he. He's been amazing. And I'm actually, I've gone out to see my first. I've seen his band twice. Dog pile at these. Just, you know, it's Mosh pit.
I got punched in the face my first show.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: It's like a turnstile. Yeah.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: Oh, dude, it's that world. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's crazy, bro. But no, it's. It's. It's been such a cool experience to like, you know, see other kinds of music. And, you know, Sean, my guitarist, he's, you know, he's. He's a cat in Austin and he. He plays, you know, all the jazz clubs down there. And, you know, he's been able to actually fill in on Kill Tony.
Oh, wow. Thing and in that band.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that's.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: But, yeah, I mean, he plays with all those guys, like, around town in Austin and going to see. Just going to see them at, like, they started like 11:30 at Sea Boys and played till like 2:00am oh, yeah, it's. And it's just like. It's the best musicians in, like, you know, arguably the country. I mean, like, some of them, like, they're. It's just. It's wild, man. It's. It's so wild to see all these different kinds of music and, you know, try and take little bits of it and put it into your stuff and, you know, I'm. I'm waiting to write a song for Dylan to just like, let him just have a two Minute drum solo, you know, go crazy. But.
But yeah, no, I think that's been a. An awesome part of this year, but other than that, man, I mean, it's just been. It's been writing a whole bunch and trying to, you know, like I said before, or just get better at it because, you know, I do feel a lot more comfortable, like I said, coming into these writing rooms and, you know, being happy with what I'm walking out with.
And, you know, it's been. It's been. It's been such an awesome experience. And, you know, I'd say goals going forward is just, you know, continue to grow the music, try and get on the road a whole bunch more. Next year is like, my goal is to.
[00:49:33] Speaker B: Yeah, we have. We have. But we have the record deal. You have a great manager. Are Champion and Grady. Do we have a booking deal right now?
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, back to Mr. Wyatt Flores. You know, he was one of the first people I got to go on the road with, and, you know, he has been such a, you know, great person to look up to and, you know, learn from, but at the same time, you know, he, you know, pretty much right away, like, helped me get a booking agent, get on, you know, on his team with Jacob Lapidus at caa.
[00:50:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:05] Speaker A: And we've been on that for, like, almost two years. It was like. It was last January, if I'm not mistaken.
But, yeah, I mean, it's been great. And, you know, this year was like. I'd say the big focus this year was, you know, getting this record ready to go and writing a bunch for. Because. For next year. Because we're putting another album out next year.
[00:50:27] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: That.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: That musket eye mentality has rubbed off on it.
[00:50:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: 100 after record after, after. When those boys put out record one, they're like, we're only just going to release records.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah, right.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: They just. Now it's every. You. You get those.
[00:50:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: So it's like, why not, man? If you love the process of doing it and it's working and. And you can put out something that you're proud of on a yearly basis.
Why not?
[00:50:50] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Why not? Yeah, 100%. I mean, I think that was like.
That was, you know, when we first signed our deal and everything, and, you know, we had this project ready to go and, you know, the label has a. A certain, you know, strategy within putting their stuff out, and obviously it works like, you know, they have some pretty incredible. Sony.
[00:51:11] Speaker B: Yeah. You joined a great team over there.
[00:51:13] Speaker A: Pretty incredible rosters on both ends. And, you know, so, you know, they have a strategy, but. But at the same time, we were just like, you know, this. It.
This album is something that, you know, we've had in the chamber for a little bit now, and we really want to put it out this year. And, you know, they were a little hesitant at first, and, you know, we were just like, hey, we'll give you another one. Like, it's okay. Like, we're not. We're not trying to rush the term. We're not trying to get more money out of you. Like, we just want to put more music.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: We want to get music out.
[00:51:39] Speaker A: Exactly. Grow this thing a hundred percent. Yeah. And, you know, I think the best way to do that is just constantly be in front of people and, you know, have more, you know, chances at bat to do that. So, you know, and, you know, going back to finding the right people, I mean, you know, it was. It was definitely a challenge to kind of, you know, get, you know, get them on. On, you know, on the page of us and, like, trying to, you know, take this strategy that isn't a normal strategy, which I understand, but, you know, they're all game for it now, and, like, it's been. It's been a pretty, you know, incredible thing to, you know, find people that can mold to what you're trying to do and, you know, be supportive in, you know, the strategy that you're trying to take. So, you know, we're going to. I've been writing, you know, all year this year. I think I. In my head, I have, you know, probably three, four months left of writing to do, and then, you know, we deliver this next album in May, and then we'll start putting it out, you know, whenever.
But, yeah, it's been pretty awesome.
[00:52:37] Speaker B: Awesome, man.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:39] Speaker B: What's something that you would tell that kid? Trying to think. Because you've lived so many different lives.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Where it's like. But I guess that, like, when you get the mess, when you and Grady start connecting and then you start coming out here.
[00:52:51] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: And then you make the jump to move out here.
[00:52:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: A little over a year ago.
[00:52:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: Which is nuts to say. Right.
What's something that you would tell that kid that moves out here?
[00:53:01] Speaker A: Dude.
[00:53:02] Speaker B: Younger you.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, just keep going, man. I mean, it's just like. It is daunting to, like. Because now, you know, you. You move to the. To this town where, you know, the best of the best are, and. And they're constantly coming. They're more of the best of the best probably moved here today, you know, so, like these 50 people, right? Ex.
Exactly. Oh, is that right?
[00:53:23] Speaker B: It used to be 100 a day. I think we're down to, like, 50 or 50.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: Okay. All right. All right. Well, slowing down. Yeah.
But no, man, I mean, I think I had. I think I had the right mindset coming in, and it was just. It was just like, you know, Grady says it all the time. It's a hot air balloon ride. It's not supposed to be a rocket ship, you know, until it. Until it, you know, hopefully does one day, you know, get there. But, you know, as long as you can see consistent growth, you know, whether it's small or big, like, as long as it keeps getting better. Like, you just have to keep, you know, feeding the flame, man. I mean, you have to keep riding, keep putting stuff out, keep posting videos.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: Yeah, man.
[00:53:58] Speaker A: You know, doing the whole bit. But, you know, I'd say just, you know, I'd say to myself, cherish the wins that you have, because, you know, sometimes. Sometimes there'll be a month or two stint where you don't have much going on, but then something happens, and you got to be ready to go, you know, and that's, I think, true of just this whole industry is. Is, you know, whole. It's. It's. You got to be on your toes for real. And, you know, it's. It's been. It's been pretty awesome, man.
[00:54:26] Speaker B: It's been so sweet in so many ways. You've accomplished a lot, but you're just getting started.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: Yeah, 100%.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: You're just getting started. The hot air balloon is just going until it gets its rockets on there, man. And I love the way you put it where it's just adding to the fire, you know, like, you're having a little. You're hanging out with your buddies around the fire pit. You're not ready to go home yet. You're just throwing on logs. You're looking for to throw in there to keep the fire going, man. That's what this is, man. That's what the music is and the content and all of that. Dude. Well, thank you so much for coming on here. Of course, it was a pleasure and hope to get out on the golf course with you or just kick it. Like, literally just say when and we're. We're always down.
Appreciate you and everybody can find you. It's Brandon Wal.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Brandon Walter. Yeah, that's right.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: Just on.
[00:55:08] Speaker A: Just check it out.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: Just straight in. Just straight up.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: Brendan Walter. Music on. Instagram and TikTok, Right? Yeah.
[00:55:15] Speaker B: So we put music. Some people put songs, some people put sings, Some people put official. They. They bounce all around. Oh, yeah, Walter, music.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: I've just got the one. So if anybody else DMS you, it's not me, I swear.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Have you run into that yet?
[00:55:27] Speaker A: Dude, it's so weird. I mean, it's like. Yeah, but it's like, it's. It's always bots. And then you get like. It's so obvious. Like, it's. You know, some people will send me DMs, and they're like, oh, this person, you know. Were you asking for money? It's like, why would I ask you for money?
[00:55:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm asking for money. When you come and buy a ticket. Yeah.
Show. And you get a shirt.
[00:55:46] Speaker A: I had. I had a buddy of mine who, you know, they had a bot reach out to a fan or whatever, and the person sent them, like, 500 bucks. And then, like, he. They DM'd him. And we're like, hey, like, what the heck? And he's like, why would I ask for that? Like, what are you doing?
[00:56:02] Speaker B: Tickets are not.
[00:56:03] Speaker A: There's a certain amount of accountability that you have to, you know, have on. On the web. Darwinism. Yes, for sure. But, yeah, no, it's. It's been interesting. But, you know, just the idea that somebody would, you know, take your work and. And make an account and then they get a couple thousand followers, like, just that alone is like, all right. That's kind of cool. Like, yeah, exactly. You know, but. But in the same breath. Be careful. Like, I have one account out. It's not me. Brendan.
[00:56:28] Speaker B: Walter, music.
[00:56:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right.
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Follow Tick Tock Instagram, and y' all be sure to go check out Disappearing Days. It's out right now, brother. Thank you so much.
[00:56:36] Speaker A: Appreciate you.
[00:56:37] Speaker B: Gonna send you home with an eight pack of Surfside.
[00:56:39] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:56:39] Speaker B: You spent time living in Philly?
[00:56:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:41] Speaker B: They are a Philly based.
[00:56:42] Speaker A: Oh, let's go.
[00:56:43] Speaker B: They actually. Their parent company, Stateside Vodka.
[00:56:46] Speaker A: No.
[00:56:46] Speaker B: Xfinity. Live outside.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: They just didn't. They just.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Now it's Stateside Live.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: That's what I heard. Yes.
[00:56:51] Speaker B: They have the naming rights.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: What was once.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:56:55] Speaker B: So Stateside Live. And Vodka, lemonade, vodka, iced tea, vodka, green tea, vodka. No bubbles, no troubles. It ain't a seltzer, damn it. It's a Surfside. And for more on us visit raised rowdy.com from Man Brandon. I'm Matt Brill. This has been outside the.
[00:57:11] Speaker A: I ain't.
[00:57:11] Speaker B: Never been the kind for st one place for too long I ain't never.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Been the best.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: I love you to a girl I love Only got a couple tricks on my sleeve they usually just make them leave so if you know me if you really know me.
[00:57:33] Speaker A: You know I'm just a two trick.
[00:57:36] Speaker B: Pony maybe they're drinking and the lack of money for show I'm just a.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: Two trick pony, yeah.
